Looking for info on Ava? I know she has been around for a while but I'm wondering of anyone has seen her for outcall?
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Looking for info on Ava? I know she has been around for a while but I'm wondering of anyone has seen her for outcall?
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[QUOTE=ZckBrc;5383764]Looking for info on Ava? I know she has been around for a while but I'm wondering of anyone has seen her for outcall?
[URL]https://escortbabylon.net/image_list/6302127951[/URL][/QUOTE]Who's that black dude in her photos? He doesn't exactly look like a pimp. He kind-of looks like a flambé. And I doubt someone would be dumb enough to post multiple pictures of her pimp.
[QUOTE=LongDStyle;5383535]You can be robbed without providing any type of I'd or PII. I've been mongering 8 years and out of several hundred experiences have had enough bad encounters to that I don't need more than 2 hands to count maybe just 1 hand. I treat sending personal information like deposits. If you're doing outcall the woman will already know where you live that's enough. I've provided a picture to one provider in the past of my work I'd. Greatfully I know longer work there but I had heavy concern not because of her so much but the possibility she gets caught and my info was still in her phone. Only upside is I can go years without seeing her and she still knows who I am and I still get grandfathered into her old rates and services not provided to new customers like bareback and kissing.[/QUOTE]I also have concerns over sharing real info with a relatively unknown or not as reputed provider. What are community's thoughts on verification sites like P411 or RS2 k- they also take real info, but are they useful or more importantly, safe?
[QUOTE=Ppete8231;5384177]I also have concerns over sharing real info with a relatively unknown or not as reputed provider. What are community's thoughts on verification sites like P411 or RS2 k- they also take real info, but are they useful or more importantly, safe?[/QUOTE]I still have a P411 account that is helpful when I'm trying to find a new provider. What I like about it is they also do some confirmation with the provider who's advertising so you are pretty sure you are getting who you are seeing although the pictures can be obviously brushed or shopped.
[QUOTE=Ppete8231;5384177]I also have concerns over sharing real info with a relatively unknown or not as reputed provider. What are community's thoughts on verification sites like P411 or RS2 k- they also take real info, but are they useful or more importantly, safe?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Trojan83;5384300]I still have a P411 account that is helpful when I'm trying to find a new provider. What I like about it is they also do some confirmation with the provider who's advertising so you are pretty sure you are getting who you are seeing although the pictures can be obviously brushed or shopped.[/QUOTE]I've had a p411 account for years. It's great for middle and higher end girls who aren't typically reviewed on this board. So if you're mainly doing your shopping through here you might not get to use p411 enough to justify the cost. But it's a good search engine if you cross reference it with the other site for reviews.
[QUOTE=Ppete8231;5384177]I also have concerns over sharing real info with a relatively unknown or not as reputed provider. What are community's thoughts on verification sites like P411 or RS2 k- they also take real info, but are they useful or more importantly, safe?[/QUOTE]My issue with P411, and it's more of a conundrum, is that many P411 providers won't see you unless you have P411 OKs. And to get the OKs, you have to see a P411 provider. I was lucky. I saw a P411 provider off a different site. She then invited me to join P411. With her and others that I had seen, I had enough OKs to see others on the site.
And as others were saying, P411 tend to have middle & upper tier talent. STG or EB / LC providers probably can't give you an OK. So if you're just staring out trying to get on P411, I'd try to find some P411 providers off another site, then ask them to invite you to P411. If you join without OKs ready to go, you may not get much response, and feel like it was a waste.
I don't usually review the higher end girls on this site because there isn't much of a market for them here but if anybody is curious and has $700 to spare, Lacey Love is a great time. I saw her last week and she is just like her photos. She's model beautiful, with an exotic Persian look, a really great conversationalist, has a stylish incall location in River West, and provides a great GFE session.
The most shocking part of the experience for me is that after coming across super classy and refined while we were getting started, she became a total porn star during the BBBJ. She really got into the nasty gurgling deep throat and I was totally not expecting it.
It was hot seeing her in all of this expensive lingerie wearing expensive shoes with her expensive makeup running down her face and getting all over my cock.
Best high end experience I've had in Chicago.
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[QUOTE=LeeOskar;5385078]My issue with P411, and it's more of a conundrum, is that many P411 providers won't see you unless you have P411 OKs. And to get the OKs, you have to see a P411 provider. I was lucky. I saw a P411 provider off a different site. She then invited me to join P411. With her and others that I had seen, I had enough OKs to see others on the site.
And as others were saying, P411 tend to have middle & upper tier talent. STG or EB / LC providers probably can't give you an OK. So if you're just staring out trying to get on P411, I'd try to find some P411 providers off another site, then ask them to invite you to P411. If you join without OKs ready to go, you may not get much response, and feel like it was a waste.[/QUOTE]Honestly people, they need to trust that you're who you say you are and not LEO, if you don't want to wait to get 2 verifications from members you can just pay the fee. I trust P411 more than a sketchy girl in a motel room. The only issue that I have with them is the required subscription. What I prefer about RS2 K is that I only need to pay once to say who I am instead of needing to repeatedly confirm who I am thru repeated payments.
[QUOTE=LeeOskar;5385078]My issue with P411, and it's more of a conundrum, is that many P411 providers won't see you unless you have P411 OKs. And to get the OKs, you have to see a P411 provider. I was lucky. I saw a P411 provider off a different site. She then invited me to join P411. With her and others that I had seen, I had enough OKs to see others on the site.
And as others were saying, P411 tend to have middle & upper tier talent. STG or EB / LC providers probably can't give you an OK. So if you're just staring out trying to get on P411, I'd try to find some P411 providers off another site, then ask them to invite you to P411. If you join without OKs ready to go, you may not get much response, and feel like it was a waste.[/QUOTE]I got started by picking from "newbie friendly" girls which you can search for there. Once I got a couple of them the floodgates opened.
[QUOTE=Jinurso;5385145]I got started by picking from "newbie friendly" girls which you can search for there. Once I got a couple of them the floodgates opened.[/QUOTE]True, I just hope he finds the "newbie friendly" ones he likes.
[QUOTE=DrRobotNik;5377390]I don't need a girl who is going to want to spend all night in my room LOL.
Looks like I am in the hunt again for a girl. Any one know any girl next door, milfs, or suicide girl looking providers? Prefer the more petite end of the scale, but open. Budget is 300-400hr. Must do out calls and BBBJ. BBFS would be nice but not needed. In town the weekend of June 11th and staying downtown. Talked a little with Carmella, but she doesn't seem to be available late night. Royalty ghosted.[/QUOTE][URL]http://www.sashavalentinexo.com/[/URL]
Sasha Valentine is a tight spinner with incredible skin and tattoos. Has a SG thing going on. Has dark hair and will probably put on black lipstick if you asked.
[QUOTE=LeeOskar;5385078]My issue with P411, and it's more of a conundrum, is that many P411 providers won't see you unless you have P411 OKs. And to get the OKs, you have to see a P411 provider. I was lucky. I saw a P411 provider off a different site. She then invited me to join P411. With her and others that I had seen, I had enough OKs to see others on the site.
And as others were saying, P411 tend to have middle & upper tier talent. STG or EB / LC providers probably can't give you an OK. So if you're just staring out trying to get on P411, I'd try to find some P411 providers off another site, then ask them to invite you to P411. If you join without OKs ready to go, you may not get much response, and feel like it was a waste.[/QUOTE]Assuming it's the same dynamics with rsk2 k. Any concerns about sharing personal info with a third party platform?
[QUOTE=Ppete8231;5385228]Assuming it's the same dynamics with rsk2 k. Any concerns about sharing personal info with a third party platform?[/QUOTE]I guess it all comes down to how comfortable you are with giving your personal identifying information to a third party to engage in activities that "may be" breaking the law and looked down upon by certain folks.
Just use an example of the hack from Ashley Madison (different but similar). For those folk who used legit cc, billing and email info (come on there were a lot), all of their info got leaked and was available for anyone to search.
I get why providers like these sites. They've already taken the jump and most have their images pasted all over the internet. They have accepted being out in the open with their "career choice". There are a lot of dirt bags out there too, that do dumb shit. I've thought about RS2 K and P411 but it's too risky for me. I'd be giving them much more information than Ashley Madison and nothing guarantees that information will be safe. Black mail and extortion could easily happen. Also, all that information could easily hit the web for anyone to search.
Now for those that have jobs that don't care about any that and or don't care about having that information leaked, go for it. Anyone that has anything to lose, may want to think twice. Ashley Madison was over a hundred million dollar company, and they didn't do enough security. Do you think this much smaller sites care about your info? Nope.
[QUOTE=Member#1117;5385877]I guess it all comes down to how comfortable you are with giving your personal identifying information to a third party to engage in activities that "may be" breaking the law and looked down upon by certain folks.
Just use an example of the hack from Ashley Madison (different but similar). For those folk who used legit cc, billing and email info (come on there were a lot), all of their info got leaked and was available for anyone to search.
I get why providers like these sites. They've already taken the jump and most have their images pasted all over the internet. They have accepted being out in the open with their "career choice". There are a lot of dirt bags out there too, that do dumb shit. I've thought about RS2 K and P411 but it's too risky for me. I'd be giving them much more information than Ashley Madison and nothing guarantees that information will be safe. Black mail and extortion could easily happen. Also, all that information could easily hit the web for anyone to search.
Now for those that have jobs that don't care about any that and or don't care about having that information leaked, go for it. Anyone that has anything to lose, may want to think twice. Ashley Madison was over a hundred million dollar company, and they didn't do enough security. Do you think this much smaller sites care about your info? Nope.[/QUOTE]100% agree. Every time you lower yourself guard and think with your junior, it's asking for trouble.
[QUOTE=Member#1117;5385877]I guess it all comes down to how comfortable you are with giving your personal identifying information to a third party to engage in activities that "may be" breaking the law and looked down upon by certain folks.
Just use an example of the hack from Ashley Madison (different but similar). For those folk who used legit cc, billing and email info (come on there were a lot), all of their info got leaked and was available for anyone to search.
I get why providers like these sites. They've already taken the jump and most have their images pasted all over the internet. They have accepted being out in the open with their "career choice". There are a lot of dirt bags out there too, that do dumb shit. I've thought about RS2 K and P411 but it's too risky for me. I'd be giving them much more information than Ashley Madison and nothing guarantees that information will be safe. Black mail and extortion could easily happen. Also, all that information could easily hit the web for anyone to search.
Now for those that have jobs that don't care about any that and or don't care about having that information leaked, go for it. Anyone that has anything to lose, may want to think twice. Ashley Madison was over a hundred million dollar company, and they didn't do enough security. Do you think this much smaller sites care about your info? Nope.[/QUOTE]This is a risky business, they are doing things that aren't above board and literally exposing themselves, the higher class / cost providers want to be careful about who they do business with.
Honestly I don't think bad about verifying since I don't think badly about what I am doing. At times I want to spend time with someone to talk with and be intimate. Providers want verification to trust who the hobbyist is and they will either ask for that themselves or use a service that does.
If you're not willing to provide information to a particular provider you want to see or to a verification service which has existed for decades then keep searching elsewhere and not complain about it.
I'm not thinking I'm naive since I'm only sticking with services and providers that have been reviewed and verified themselves.