NoVA SugarBabies

Hanna's been around for years and is a fun time for sure.

[QUOTE=Rkoppa;7519649]Thanks much appreciated but I'm going pass on Daniela too young I want to be able to go grab drinks with them and since under 21.

Will see about Hanna.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=CuriousVaMan;7521445]Hanna's been around for years and is a fun time for sure.[/QUOTE]Think imma pass on her too.

Think she knows my friend but not in that way lols.

Small world.

[QUOTE=CuriousVaMan;7521445]Hanna's been around for years and is a fun time for sure.[/QUOTE]She's definitely a good visit and I've reviewed her years ago. I've been meaning to see her again, but with my last visit she wasn't into DATY as enthusiastically as I'd like. She likes it rough and girls more than men. Great conversation and she loves Japanese whisky. Expect a nice long visit and multiple workouts unless things have changed.

[QUOTE=PRMan12;7520586]No, chatted for a bit! She seemed to want a sizeable gift for a platonic 1st meet!

She's on the site constantly, hopefully she realizes that isn't going to work and comes down from her ask!

Would love to meet her! Def real and in GW sorority.[/QUOTE]She told me she's really busy so expects 200-500 for a platonic date. I'm still chatting. Not agreeing to that and talking about other things. She's engaged. The lack of awareness telling a successful guy she's so busy (as if we're not) and then expecting a well paid M&G shows inexperience. Or someone paid her 500 for a coffee and she thinks that's normal. Bigger picture, it's just another failed strategy women come up with. Sometimes we catch them when they come around, sometimes not. So a seed planted is how I see it.

I didn't think she was real. Been texting and based on the discussion I think she just might be now. She wants one guy to provide a sizable monthly allowance to cover all her needs. I stepped back from the discussion to avoid the quick death of hearing a stupid number. Then she proposed meeting if I'm ok with it conceptually.

Far from the GPS dam bursting but could be a crack or two forming. Hell if I know. A few years ago she'd be a cute prospect among several peers. These days she's got more appeal than many on the site. She's also very sweet in our chat. But I've had success with better for far more reasonable an ask so on the sidelines for now.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/0e532458-910a-49f7-bbb4-3e669132b64b[/URL]

[QUOTE=SRH59;7521965]She told me she's really busy so expects 200-500 for a platonic date. I'm still chatting. Not agreeing to that and talking about other things. She's engaged. The lack of awareness telling a successful guy she's so busy (as if we're not) and then expecting a well paid M&G shows inexperience. Or someone paid her 500 for a coffee and she thinks that's normal. Bigger picture, it's just another failed strategy women come up with. Sometimes we catch them when they come around, sometimes not. So a seed planted is how I see it.[/QUOTE]I just laugh it off to myself! I still text periodically to see if she wants to meet and have fun! I'll give props to anyone who hits this!

[QUOTE=Dimples572;7520678]So a month or so ago I got banned from Seeking. Looking for different options I tried Secret Benefits (which is a complete fucking rinse job) and signed up for WYP as well. Created an account and lurked for a couple days, sent a few offers and a couple gals accepted my offer, so like Seeking if you want to communicate with the gals you've got to purchase credits. I put in my CC info and the transaction doesn't go through, I assumed my bank blocked it because the block everything it seems that they don't recognize. So I wait a few hours and once I get home from work I log back on to try again and when I log in I get a response that my account has been suspended. I assumed it got flagged by their system because of the declined transaction so I create a ticket explaining the situation and ask if they can remove the suspension. I then get an auto email from them acknowledging the ticket has been created and a link to log onto in order to check any updated status for my request. But when I click on the link as you can see in the screenshot it takes me to a portal that says [URL]Seeking.com[/URL] So WYP is owned by Seeking? So it appears if that's the case then I'm fucked on WYP as well because they already have all my data on file. Was this a known thing that they owned WYP?[/QUOTE]Yes, this has been fairly known. Seeking and WYP are both owned by Wade, don't know if his other sites like misstravel or openminded still work.

Your only bet seems to be Secret Benefits which like you said is a rinse job.

Didn't realize you paid with a CC, that means they have all your info.

This hobby is getting more and more difficult.

First fosta / sesta killed with Pros, now seeking going all crazy.

What does a man have to do to get taken care of properly LOL.

[QUOTE=SRH59;7521985]I didn't think she was real. Been texting and based on the discussion I think she just might be now. She wants one guy to provide a sizable monthly allowance to cover all her needs. I stepped back from the discussion to avoid the quick death of hearing a stupid number. Then she proposed meeting if I'm ok with it conceptually.

Far from the GPS dam bursting but could be a crack or two forming. Hell if I know. A few years ago she'd be a cute prospect among several peers. These days she's got more appeal than many on the site. She's also very sweet in our chat. But I've had success with better for far more reasonable an ask so on the sidelines for now.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/0e532458-910a-49f7-bbb4-3e669132b64b[/URL][/QUOTE]More success than me. I messaged a few months ago and again recently and response or profile view. But it seems like a waste of time if she wants so much. You're right that she looks better than 95% of the girls in the DC area though.

How do you initiate contact with ladies from Seeking? Do you start off with something from their bio or more be more direct? Do you try to get their phone number after a few messages and work logistics that way? I want to start dipping my toe in the sugar world but not sure how to start. I guess I could jump in with both feet but thought I would learn from the collective group. Thanks in advanced. Also, I have not started paying for the service and I keep getting messages but can't read them. Are these bots?

[QUOTE=Stroon78;7522190]How do you initiate contact with ladies from Seeking? Do you start off with something from their bio or more be more direct? Do you try to get their phone number after a few messages and work logistics that way? I want to start dipping my toe in the sugar world but not sure how to start. I guess I could jump in with both feet but thought I would learn from the collective group. Thanks in advanced. Also, I have not started paying for the service and I keep getting messages but can't read them. Are these bots?[/QUOTE]Be careful with your wording. Anything remotely close to an exchange system for pleasure will get you suspended or eventually banned. As far as speaking to them, similar to any other dating site. Once you feel things are mutual move to a different form of communication. I recommend a burner number.

Not sure if it's just my luck but I'm mainly encountering girls that want to be paid for platonic meets or prostitutes that give me their hotel address and ask for "roses". There's really no in between right now. This is on top of the fact that GPS is outrageously high. I know some on here have it and don't mind spending it but can we agree to please stop offering average women 700+ per meet. You're unnecessarily inflating the cost for pussy. Thanks.

[QUOTE=DasHottCalla;7522644]Not sure if it's just my luck but I'm mainly encountering girls that want to be paid for platonic meets or prostitutes that give me their hotel address and ask for "roses". There's really no in between right now. This is on top of the fact that GPS is outrageously high. I know some on here have it and don't mind spending it but can we agree to please stop offering average women 700+ per meet. You're unnecessarily inflating the cost for pussy. Thanks.[/QUOTE]I'm on the MD side of the DMV so I do both NoVA and Baltimore girls and even the Baltimore girls are cooked. I saw a known addict from the Baltimore area on SA back in December she was wanting 400 just to come over. Platonically. I've had a bit more success with actual reasonable rates on SB (2-3 bills for a few hours of fun) but that's just me. I know a lot of people don't like SB's price structure but I found my last time on SA to be such a waste of time with scammers, and working girls trying to charge 3-4 x what they would normally charge on listcrawler or STG.

[QUOTE=AdcFellow;7520083]In WYP, you offer to pay for the "first date. " It is paid when you meet. You also have to pay a set amount of credits just to converse with someone. For example, if you offer someone $100 for dinner you have to pay the equivalent of about $10 just to chat, for a $200 dinner offer, you have to pay $20 just to chat. Once both parties accept the first date offer, you need to pay the credits and it unlocks the ability to chat. I chat with them and if there is compatibility, we exchange numbers to text. In text, I tell them I am looking for a SD / SB relationship. 80% of those I chat with know exactly what I mean. We then discuss the monthly allowance. If we are not in agreement, then we don't meet, and the only money I am out is the amount I spent on credits. If we meet, I pay them the first date amount, and most are good for the FC for the additional amount discussed in text. Sometimes they want to do FC same night, othertimes on the second meet. There is a certain percentage (maybe 30%) who are just scammers and say they want an arrangement but then disappear after the first date.

I posted my results to let people know who is game for FC, and who are looking for something else. Hopefully it will save you some credits and some first date money. Always YMMV.

The selection is much smaller on WYP so I make fewer offers on WYP. The selection is not great, but there are one or two each week who grab my attention. Statistically I have equal or better success ratio than SA, but it take much longer to find someone. I'd be interest in what other's experiences are.[/QUOTE]Thanks for sharing your insights! I might give the site a spin. Seems like a low success rate like Secret Benefits, but may be worth it if you find someone good. It would be helpful to report who is DTF and who isn't. Is there any significance to the initial amount that is preset for each profile? I noticed most profiles has a different amount that's already preset. Is that like an "asking" amount or minimum that the person has set?

[QUOTE=DasHottCalla;7522644]Not sure if it's just my luck but I'm mainly encountering girls that want to be paid for platonic meets or prostitutes that give me their hotel address and ask for "roses". There's really no in between right now. This is on top of the fact that GPS is outrageously high. I know some on here have it and don't mind spending it but can we agree to please stop offering average women 700+ per meet. You're unnecessarily inflating the cost for pussy. Thanks.[/QUOTE]A fair representation for what is truly an illogical talent vs allowance inversion.

Very few hot girls but still some cute ones. Pick your percentage but maybe 20% that I'd even consider asking out. Then all of us are messaging the same handful of women so they're inundated. So its a luck and timing game to connect. Sometimes persistence pays off.

What I have found is a much higher success rate discussing allowance after meeting in person. Those that play along are also not the jaded SBs, delusional ones, or pros. I'd say 500 is the new 400 for allowance / ppm for a good looking woman. 600 tops for me and I can't recall doing that but did offer it once or twice with no luck. I've had some luck with ladies asking 700-$1 K then agreeing to 500 but only after taking them out to dinner. And I've had some failures there, too. But if you find that legit woman who wants to fuck if the chemistry is there, make the effort to impress them, make them laugh, listen to them (some of them can really talk the paint off the walls), weave in just the right amount of sexual overtures (timing is key), and treat them well, your number will be their number in many cases. All of this said, there just aren't that many of them out there any more so you just keep casting the net.

Anyone meet with this one yet??

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/6ac450a9-d54e-4c52-8c2c-8d3cde21cfc2[/URL]

Thanks!