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[QUOTE=Umbrellaman1;1400675]Speak for yourself. I'd tap it, as long as she didn't talk with that voice of hers.[/QUOTE]Ah UM. You would be a better man than I would. I'd stand up and give you a standing O. As Charlie on 2. 5 would say. New thought new thought. LOL.
But you would be cheating on your MILF Debbie? How is she by the way? I haven't been able to catch up with her in awhile. Miss her kissing and cuddling which I'm sure Martha wouldn't provide. Stay safe sir. SO
[QUOTE=Candyman555;1400887]Your mailbox is full![/QUOTE]Try again. It should be ok now. If it's full again try again next day. Sometimes I can't keep up with them, so whenever I free some space, you message will go through.
[QUOTE=Nrlmus;1401185]Try again. It should be ok now. If it's full again try again next day. Sometimes I can't keep up with them, so whenever I free some space, you message will go through.[/QUOTE]Got your note. Thanks as usual. Tried to send one back. SO
Wow, I suddenly feel left out.
A. M.
[QUOTE=Nrlmus; 1400586]This is the 2nd time I'm seeing this chick. I have a feeling I will end up becoming her 'regular. ' Got her number from one of the mongers as part of the UTR number exchange program that has been instituted by one of the UTR number exchange committees that have been spring up lately like mushrooms in the fall, obviously UTR. The hobbyist that gave me with her info said he didn't mind if I write a review and Marie herself also gave her go ahead.
I woke up this afternoon (I'm a night person) and thought it was a nice day to take a walk. So I grabbed my camera, and headed off to my favorite path in the woods. As I was walking along through the woods, I stumbled upon a naughty school girl frolicking by a tree. Luckily for me, and all of you, I brought my camera. So here's a little sample of my newest shoot with Kat, the more "interesting" shots will follow tomorrow sometime.
Stay safe, and happy hunting.
[QUOTE=Kit Kat;1397194]If reputable providers / agencies won't see anyone without references from other reputable providers / agencies, then how can you get any acceptable references? The only alternative I can see is to provide sufficient personal information to be properly screened. Even that has it's risks, since while it may provide reasonable assurance that you aren't really Uncle Leo, it doesn't prove that you aren't a psychotic serial killer. Xoxo Kat oxox[/QUOTE]Please excuse me for adding my comments. I fully understand the need for safety on behalf of both parties and also the LE concerns. Most guys would be devastated financial if our real names were published should LE ever access your computer or "black book". That's just one reason my real identity will never be given out. One reason I have a untracable trac-phone. I have dealt with many UTR ladies, also many independants. They don't give references freely, especially those UTR.
I've met two members of the Boston board in person. I've both given a lot of info and received a lot info from members, including those in Mass, over the years. In fact the photog and I exchanged a few pm's in the past. BTW I've been a member on this board since 2004.
But none of that counted when I called you last Fall and tried to set up a appointment. You insisted on all my personal info, I declined. That's your business model, fine. I'll stick to mine.
[QUOTE=Gansett; 1402603]Please excuse me for adding my comments. I fully understand the need for safety on behalf of both parties and also the LE concerns. Most guys would be devastated financial if our real names were published should LE ever access your computer or "black book". That's just one reason my real identity will never be given out. One reason I have a untracable trac-phone. I have dealt with many UTR ladies, also many independants. They don't give references freely, especially those UTR.
I've met two members of the Boston board in person. I've both given a lot of info and received a lot info from members, including those in Mass, over the years. In fact the photog and I exchanged a few pm's in the past. BTW I've been a member on this board since 2004.
But none of that counted when I called you last Fall and tried to set up a appointment. You insisted on all my personal info, I declined. That's your business model, fine. I'll stick to mine.[/QUOTE]The problem with using UTR girls as references, is that there's simply no way for us to confirm that they are in fact a provider (and not just Auntie Leo). We do accept verifiable independents as references, but many of them don't keep very good records, so they often don't recall if they saw someone or not. Did you mention your membership here when you called? We generally try to work something out for senior members with a good track record. Send me a PM if you're still interested.
By the way, for what it's worth, our "black book" is an encrypted portable hard drive. But ultimately, one of the main points of screening is to prevent LE from ever even meeting us, let alone trying to access our records.
Xoxo Kat oxox
Mom kicked me 200 on Sunday and I called up 5 ads off back page, none of them picked up the phone so I always wanted to see.
Hailey, called her up and she remembered me from CL reviews, have private messaged her and she always wrote back.
So I am happy to report a good if not great review, she is cute young, and let me chill there for over an hour, Let me pop 2 times.
No BBBJ. But over all I loved the hour plus I spent with her in her bedroom, Only negative is the speed bumps in her condo complex.
My car bottomed out driving over them danm speed bumps * angry* smiley.
I will be going back when I'm in the mood
[QUOTE=Asket; 1402690]Not to sound like your mom, but if your married then you shouldn't be cheating on your wife, I'm single and would have no problem giving kat.
My real name and whatever else she wanted, Have you been following the "madam" that got busted in new york city? She is being held on 2 million BAIL.
I agree with kat's protocall![/QUOTE]While being single surely would make it easier in this hobby I'm willing to bet that if all the 'married or attached' gents stopped participating there wouldn't be as much of a need for all these services. Let's face it. If you are single then you can just go out and pick-up someone for a night of whatever you want it to be. I have single friends at work that between clubs, parties, facebook and what not they are usually not without some 'strange'. The comment in the post related to other concerns ie 'financial' that might arise given LE intervention whatever they might be or entail. And while Kat has said on more than 1 occasion that she does not keep the info after checking it you know there are ones out there that do (your example for one).
I do fully agree with Kat's insistance on safety for herself and the girls. Each and all of us should be holding that safety concern in high regard. Period. SO
[QUOTE=Asket; 1402690]Not to sound like your mom, but if your married then you shouldn't be cheating on your wife, I'm single and would have no problem giving kat.
My real name and whatever else she wanted, Have you been following the "madam" that got busted in new york city? She is being held on 2 million BAIL.
I agree with kat's protocall![/QUOTE]Not to sound like your priest / minister / rabbi / guru (change your guru if it's a guru though) Asket but you shouldn't be using prostitutes especially when you are unmarried because first of all it's illegal and second because you should be saving yourself for that one and only that you're planning to stay faithful to her for the rest of your life.
If I had betting money I would surely bet against it (that you will stay faithful to her for the rest of your life) or if you manage to do that I will surely bet that your future wife would not. Considering the user name you chose which I suppose comes from the word "Asceticism" which calls for "refraining from sensual pleasures and the accumulation of material wealth" you should be able to deal with your physical desires, moreover welcome the challenges of that desire so you could conquer them like a true Ascet.
Seriously speaking however, if you'd only knew how many marriages stay together because of wonderful ladies like Kat and others like her who sacrifice their bodies and souls to insure that our male imperfections get an outlet. As far as I'm concerned they all should be commended for it because if it wouldn't be for them many married men that currently use their services would start acquiring mistresses, which means getting into emotionally based relationships on the side. That would definitely make divorce rate, high as it is, sky-rocket. After all that's what women mostly do nowadays. They don't call male escorts, instead they acquire lovers, which means entering into relationships on the side and as a result more often then not leave their families for those extra-curricular activities. What I'm trying to say is with what married mongers do here there is no negative consequence to their families. If they wouldn't do this however, chances are there would be some.
Moreover, I venture to say that if prostitution were to be legalized a lot of cops and lawyers and others involved with law-enforcement establishment would lose their jobs because both crime and the divorce rate would plummet. So in immortal words of an immortal man."legalize it, don't criticize it!" Let's all hold hands and praise the Lord on that! LOL
As for Kat's protocol or my protocol who cares. She establishes her protocol in order to protect herself. Obviously the more she knows the safer she feels. We on the other hand, have an exact opposite goal. The less she knows the safer we fell. Something's got to give and something always gives. Kat asks for more, if she doesn't get it, she weighs if she can do with less in order to still get business. If at any point she starts feeling that business is not worth the risk, she lets business go.
We, on the other hand, do exact opposite. If provider asks questions I give out only what I feel is safe for me to give out. If it hits the threshold that I consider not to be safe I'd let provider go.
Obviously, offer more money to Kat and it may lower her safety threshold, or if I like the provider's looks and / or the way she sounds it may (highly unlikely though but theoretically possible) lower mine too. Each sets up their own safety threshold and lives by it or dies by it and lowers or heightens it depending on circumstance. There is risk involved for both parties here, so both try to minimize it the best they can and see fit. There is no right or wrong.
Here's the second batch of pics from Kat's photo shoot yesterday.
Stay safe, and happy hunting.
[QUOTE=Ho Hunter 328; 1402748]Here's the second batch of pics from Kat's photo shoot yesterday.
Stay safe, and happy hunting.[/QUOTE]When I grow up. Or, er, too late for that now, so, when I come back in another life, I hope I come back as Ho Hunter. Thanks for sharing your great pics with us.
[QUOTE=Asket; 1402757]ASKET lives in the "dal universe" and visits billy meier, And thats why at age 39 I'm still single, Life on planet earth is super boring, I can only imagine.
How worse it would be if I was married and had a 9 to 5 job. Thanks you ho hunter for the new pictures of kat, she looks super yummy, shit I will give her.
My date of birth and SSI number if she wants it.[/QUOTE]Ah-ah! Now I get it. Dal universe, Billy Meier. They're here, gents. I've seen'them. Asket've seen'them Billy Meier've seen'them. They here. By the way, care to share your SSN with us too or only with Kat?
I know this is off topic, but does anyone know why some posters (Asket, for example) often write their comments with sentences broken up as though they were beginning a new paragraph? Does this format serve some useful purpose that I'm missing? I may be the only one, but I find it extremely distracting and annoyingly (and unnecessarily) difficult to read. Not trying to be offensive; just my 2 cents worth.
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[QUOTE=Santa66;1402779]I know this is off topic, but does anyone know why some posters (Asket, for example) often write their comments with sentences broken up as though they were beginning a new paragraph? Does this format serve some useful purpose that I'm missing? I may be the only one, but I find it extremely distracting and annoyingly (and unnecessarily) difficult to read. Not trying to be offensive; just my 2 cents worth.[/QUOTE]Once in awhile a moderator will chime in and mention 'hard returns' are at play. Which I surmise is pressing the enter button and not letting 'word wrap' take it's course. I have seen others say that it's something to do with the way the forum has been programmed to show text and is easily fixable. Search for 'hard returns' and you may find a more suitable answer.
[QUOTE=Asket;1402788]This is a hooker forum not grammer school, on that note I suggest you shut the fuck up[/QUOTE]Excuse me but Santa is a valued contributor who actually writes in complete sentences and structured paragraphs. I completely agree with his post and find your posts unbearably hard to read. I would suggest that you emulate* his posts, or for that matter most others on the board. I will save my condemnation of your stance on giving Kat ANY personal info for a later date.
*BTW:
[url]http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/emulate[/url]
Yes, I'm well aware of the purpose of the forum. I was merely trying to learn if there is a reason for the unusual formatting I described. I've seen a number of posters using this device recently, but I guess I chose the wrong poster to mention as an example, as it is an infrequent occurrence that anyone tells me to "shut the fuck up". I was hoping to avoid coming across as offensive; I believe I mentioned that, specifically. Apparently, I missed my objective. Sorry for any inconvenience to the many readers of the forum.
[QUOTE=Asket; 1402787]I have not seen the beutiful aliens. Billy meier has spent his entire life trying to teach us the meaning of life and the meaning of death.
It takes 152 years after death to Reincarnate into another body, so live it up while your in this body[/QUOTE]Really? Even I get married I can still live it up? You see, I knew you'd come around.
[QUOTE=Asket; 1402690]Not to sound like your mom, but if your married then you shouldn't be cheating on your wife, I'm single and would have no problem giving kat.
My real name and whatever else she wanted, Have you been following the "madam" that got busted in new york city? She is being held on 2 million BAIL.
I agree with kat's protocall![/QUOTE]It's not my mom I'm concerned about, may she RIP. We're both here for the same reason and you're telling me I shouldn't be cheating? You don't know me or my lifestyle with my SO now do you? What about you? Not saving yourself for marriage huh?
My point was and still is that I'm not giving my personal info out. It's that simple. I also use a pay as you go phone that was bought with cash and minutes are added with cash. Can't come back to me. BTW my real name isn't Gansett either and I doubt yours is Asket. If you're so open why not use your real name here?
Kat has her rules, I have mine. Again it's that simple. There are many here that accept me as I am, it was just that I was traveling thru Mass and wanted a little nighttime detour. Which a member here provided to me, thanks again.
[QUOTE=Nrlmus; 1402739]Not to sound like your priest / minister / rabbi / guru (change your guru if it's a guru though) Asket but you shouldn't be using prostitutes especially when you are unmarried because first of all it's illegal and second because you should be saving yourself for that one and only that you're planning to stay faithful to her for the rest of your life.
If I had betting money I would surely bet against it (that you will stay faithful to her for the rest of your life) or if you manage to do that I will surely bet that your future wife would not. Considering the user name you chose which I suppose comes from the word "Asceticism" which calls for "refraining from sensual pleasures and the accumulation of material wealth" you should be able to deal with your physical desires, moreover welcome the challenges of that desire so you could conquer them like a true Ascet.
Seriously speaking however, if you'd only knew how many marriages stay together because of wonderful ladies like Kat and others like her who sacrifice their bodies and souls to insure that our male imperfections get an outlet. As far as I'm concerned they all should be commended for it because if it wouldn't be for them many married men that currently use their services would start acquiring mistresses, which means getting into emotionally based relationships on the side. That would definitely make divorce rate, high as it is, sky-rocket. After all that's what women mostly do nowadays. They don't call male escorts, instead they acquire lovers, which means entering into relationships on the side and as a result more often then not leave their families for those extra-curricular activities. What I'm trying to say is with what married mongers do here there is no negative consequence to their families. If they wouldn't do this however, chances are there would be some.
Moreover, I venture to say that if prostitution were to be legalized a lot of cops and lawyers and others involved with law-enforcement establishment would lose their jobs because both crime and the divorce rate would plummet. So in immortal words of an immortal man."legalize it, don't criticize it!" Let's all hold hands and praise the Lord on that! LOL
As for Kat's protocol or my protocol who cares. She establishes her protocol in order to protect herself. Obviously the more she knows the safer she feels. We on the other hand, have an exact opposite goal. The less she knows the safer we fell. Something's got to give and something always gives. Kat asks for more, if she doesn't get it, she weighs if she can do with less in order to still get business. If at any point she starts feeling that business is not worth the risk, she lets business go.
We, on the other hand, do exact opposite. If provider asks questions I give out only what I feel is safe for me to give out. If it hits the threshold that I consider not to be safe I'd let provider go.
Obviously, offer more money to Kat and it may lower her safety threshold, or if I like the provider's looks and / or the way she sounds it may (highly unlikely though but theoretically possible) lower mine too. Each sets up their own safety threshold and lives by it or dies by it and lowers or heightens it depending on circumstance. There is risk involved for both parties here, so both try to minimize it the best they can and see fit. There is no right or wrong.[/QUOTE]Very well put and I couldn't add anything further. And BTW. At the risk of being told to STFU. Kudos also to Santa66. And at the risk of no one caring. I certainly know who I share info with and who shares it back. SO
[QUOTE=Ho Hunter 328; 1402748]Here's the second batch of pics from Kat's photo shoot yesterday.
Stay safe, and happy hunting.[/QUOTE]Here is an another example of the great work that God (or your own version of a creator). Thanks for the updated pics. (I was hoping for my fave of course :( And based on the 152 years previously reported as being needed to be reincannated I guess I only need 97 years to come back as that tree! Of course maybe by then I'll get a chance to see KK.
[QUOTE=Asket;1402788]This is a hooker forum not grammer school, on that note I suggest you shut the fuck up[/QUOTE]I have had my fair share of "run ins" with some of my fellow mongers here. It seems that most of us are a sensitive bunch. Sometimes, I've learnt, a PM works good to give someone a heads up instead of in a forum. However, I realize some people love to bash others and others love a good fight. I hate being the voice of reason.
Can't we just all get along?
BB
[QUOTE=Stressed Out;1403410]Here is an another example of the great work that God (or your own version of a creator). Thanks for the updated pics. (I was hoping for my fave of course :( And based on the 152 years previously reported as being needed to be reincannated I guess I only need 97 years to come back as that tree! Of course maybe by then I'll get a chance to see KK.[/QUOTE]That tree has seen quite a bit of action over the years, I know I've used that spot for close to ten years now. It's a nice spot, the tree is on a little peninsula that sticks out of a 15' cliff. It provides a nice background for photo shoots in my opinion. I have noticed that the land has been slowly eroding over the years, and more of the tree's roots are exposed every year. I dread the day I show up for a shoot, and the tree has fallen off the cliff. Outdoor shoots aren't the best for your favorite pose. But next time I do a new shoot with Kat, I'll be sure to get a shot for you.
Stay safe, and happy hunting.
[QUOTE=Santa66;1402815]Yes, I'm well aware of the purpose of the forum. I was merely trying to learn if there is a reason for the unusual formatting I described. I've seen a number of posters using this device recently, but I guess I chose the wrong poster to mention as an example, as it is an infrequent occurrence that anyone tells me to "shut the fuck up". I was hoping to avoid coming across as offensive; I believe I mentioned that, specifically. Apparently, I missed my objective. Sorry for any inconvenience to the many readers of the forum.[/QUOTE]There is no need for you to apologize Santa. You did nothing wrong. You merely asked a question and used Asket's post as an example. Asket is the one who should be apologizing to you and to the rest of the forum for his over-reaction to it. Giving him the benefit of the doubt, maybe he misread your post or was in a foul mood when he read it.
[QUOTE=Ho Hunter 328; 1403555]That tree has seen quite a bit of action over the years, I know I've used that spot for close to ten years now. It's a nice spot, the tree is on a little peninsula that sticks out of a 15' cliff. It provides a nice background for photo shoots in my opinion. I have noticed that the land has been slowly eroding over the years, and more of the tree's roots are exposed every year. I dread the day I show up for a shoot, and the tree has fallen off the cliff. Outdoor shoots aren't the best for your favorite pose. But next time I do a new shoot with Kat, I'll be sure to get a shot for you.
Stay safe, and happy hunting.[/QUOTE]The roots start showing. Nothing worse. LOL. And I mst admit that we've all 'gone over the cliff' at times. Anyway thanks again for the pics and your right outdoors wouldn't have the same effect. I anxiously await the next edition. SO
Kat's been having me meet up with all of her girls for new pics lately, so tonight I met up with Katie. She kept complaining that she was having a "bad hair day", but it was either now or wait till next week sometime. She does want to meet up again for a shoot by my famous tree one of these days when it's warm enough. I was sure to include a shot just for Stressed Out to make it up to him for not getting one of Kat.
Next up on my list will be either Stacey or Autumn, hopefully this weekend sometime.
Stay safe, and happy hunting.
Thanks for the great pics there. WOW, Katie is just adorable. A very cute girl next door type! I'm going to have to go through the effort to see such a cutie. I'll be looking forward to move pics of her. Thanks again and keep up the great work. You're a lucky guy to get to take pics of hotties like that!
[QUOTE=Ho Hunter 328; 1404653]Kat's been having me meet up with all of her girls for new pics lately, so tonight I met up with Katie. She kept complaining that she was having a "bad hair day", but it was either now or wait till next week sometime. She does want to meet up again for a shoot by my famous tree one of these days when it's warm enough. I was sure to include a shot just for Stressed Out to make it up to him for not getting one of Kat.
Next up on my list will be either Stacey or Autumn, hopefully this weekend sometime.
Stay safe, and happy hunting.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Ho Hunter 328; 1404653]Kat's been having me meet up with all of her girls for new pics lately, so tonight I met up with Katie. She kept complaining that she was having a "bad hair day", but it was either now or wait till next week sometime. She does want to meet up again for a shoot by my famous tree one of these days when it's warm enough. I was sure to include a shot just for Stressed Out to make it up to him for not getting one of Kat.
Next up on my list will be either Stacey or Autumn, hopefully this weekend sometime.
Stay safe, and happy hunting.[/QUOTE]Katie is a doll, you bring the best out of the girls you shoot, take care ho hunter.
[QUOTE=Asket;1404829]Katie is a doll, you bring the best out of the girls you shoot, take care ho hunter.[/QUOTE]Thank you, I do what I can. I just wish that more providers would realize the value of actually using a photographer. Too many providers in my opinion would rather just use crappy cell phone pics they take themselves, or have a friend take. Or even worse, they'll just steal pics of someone else. I talk to quite a few providers who express an interest in having me shoot them, but then they seem surprised that I actually expect to be compensated fairly for my time. They can't seem to grasp the concept that most of them will easily make their money back on their first appointment, or how much it will improve their business. That's when they get the attitude that "my phone is ringing, so my current pics are good enough".
Sorry for my little rant, it's just a subject the aggravates me. I don't expect them to "work" for free, why should they expect me to. But as Monty Python used to say, and now for something completely different. Here's Stressed Out's favorite pose from the other direction.
Stay safe, and happy hunting.
[QUOTE=Ho Hunter 328; 1404946]Thank you, I do what I can. I just wish that more providers would realize the value of actually using a photographer. Too many providers in my opinion would rather just use crappy cell phone pics they take themselves, or have a friend take. Or even worse, they'll just steal pics of someone else. I talk to quite a few providers who express an interest in having me shoot them, but then they seem surprised that I actually expect to be compensated fairly for my time. They can't seem to grasp the concept that most of them will easily make their money back on their first appointment, or how much it will improve their business. That's when they get the attitude that "my phone is ringing, so my current pics are good enough".
Sorry for my little rant, it's just a subject the aggravates me. I don't expect them to "work" for free, why should they expect me to. But as Monty Python used to say, and now for something completely different. Here's Stressed Out's favorite pose from the other direction.
Stay safe, and happy hunting.[/QUOTE]It really is too bad that more girls don't use 'pro' pics for their ads. I'm sure that, as you said, if more did take the time for good quality pics not only would their business increase but I'm sure their sessions would be better since when the guy showed up it wouldn't start as a downer. I mean if I was going to meet a certain lady with 'expectations' that I had built up over time and when I get there I was 'disappointed' then no matter how good it turned out it wouldn't be as good as it could have been.
Now as far as compensation. Just lookng at these beautiful and sexy girls as god intended us to look at them would be enough for me. But then again I'm not a professional photographer with equipment and time to pay for.
And thanks for the pics and my fave pose. It certainly didn't disappoint. For some reason I didn't envision it from the other direction. You have opened my eyes to a whole new world. And obviously thank the young lady for sharing! Be good. SO
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Great pics but to bad she's not GFE.
You can show all the "spread" shot's you want to suck in all of us you want but when a lady isn't GFE honestly don't waste our time.
I just looked on the RT website and I'd like to know what is "light GFE" that's a new acronym.
Either a lady is GFE or she's not. Everything I've heard about her is that she rushes appointment's and she upsells.
So typical of RT girls.
Kat can say what she wants,"Well if you booked her through us she'd be GFE", that's BS.
I don't know about the rest of you, but I'm tired of paying good money for less than stellar service.
Just my 2 cents.
[QUOTE=Ho Hunter 328; 1404946]Thank you, I do what I can. I just wish that more providers would realize the value of actually using a photographer. Too many providers in my opinion would rather just use crappy cell phone pics they take themselves, or have a friend take. Or even worse, they'll just steal pics of someone else. I talk to quite a few providers who express an interest in having me shoot them, but then they seem surprised that I actually expect to be compensated fairly for my time. They can't seem to grasp the concept that most of them will easily make their money back on their first appointment, or how much it will improve their business. That's when they get the attitude that "my phone is ringing, so my current pics are good enough".
Sorry for my little rant, it's just a subject the aggravates me. I don't expect them to "work" for free, why should they expect me to. But as Monty Python used to say, and now for something completely different. Here's Stressed Out's favorite pose from the other direction.
Stay safe, and happy hunting.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Cpcdman; 1405165]"
Great pics but to bad she's not GFE.
You can show all the "spread" shot's you want to suck in all of us you want but when a lady isn't GFE honestly don't waste our time.
I just looked on the RT website and I'd like to know what is "light GFE" that's a new acronym.
Either a lady is GFE or she's not. Everything I've heard about her is that she rushes appointment's and she upsells.
So typical of RT girls.
Kat can say what she wants,"Well if you booked her through us she'd be GFE", that's BS.
I don't know about the rest of you, but I'm tired of paying good money for less than stellar service.
Just my 2 cents.[/QUOTE]I believe RSG uses the term "light GFE" as well, although I'm unsure what the actual definition of it is. In Katie's case, I know that she does light kissing, and DATY, but no BBBJ, or DFK. I generally don't post reviews of Kat's girls because my opinion may be biased. But if you want GFE, unrushed, and certainly no up selling, then I strongly suggest you see Alicia, Autumn, Michelle, or Kat herself. I haven't had much experience with Chloe, or Jacki, so I can't really comment on them. So far as I know, all of Kat's girls currently offering incalls are not what I'd consider GFE (and they'll tell you that when booking an appointment if they know that's what you want). So if you want the real RT experience, it has to be an outcall. That's my advice for what it's worth, take it or leave it.
Stay safe, and happy hunting.
[QUOTE=Ho Hunter 328; 1405281]I believe RSG uses the term "light GFE" as well, although I'm unsure what the actual definition of it is. In Katie's case, I know that she does light kissing, and DATY, but no BBBJ, or DFK. I generally don't post reviews of Kat's girls because my opinion may be biased. But if you want GFE, unrushed, and certainly no up selling, then I strongly suggest you see Alicia, Autumn, Michelle, or Kat herself. I haven't had much experience with Chloe, or Jacki, so I can't really comment on them. So far as I know, all of Kat's girls currently offering incalls are not what I'd consider GFE (and they'll tell you that when booking an appointment if they know that's what you want). So if you want the real RT experience, it has to be an outcall. That's my advice for what it's worth, take it or leave it.
Stay safe, and happy hunting.[/QUOTE]Autumn actually has some limited incall availability now, I posted about it last week. So if you're looking for a GFE incall, she's your girl.
Xoxo Kat oxox
Thanks for your post.
But I'm a little confused,"So if you want the real RT experience, it has to be an outcall"?
What difference should it make if a lady does an incall or an outcall as to what services she offers, if she's GFE for an outcall I would think she would be the same for an incall?
[QUOTE=Ho Hunter 328; 1405281]I believe RSG uses the term "light GFE" as well, although I'm unsure what the actual definition of it is. In Katie's case, I know that she does light kissing, and DATY, but no BBBJ, or DFK. I generally don't post reviews of Kat's girls because my opinion may be biased. But if you want GFE, unrushed, and certainly no up selling, then I strongly suggest you see Alicia, Autumn, Michelle, or Kat herself. I haven't had much experience with Chloe, or Jacki, so I can't really comment on them. So far as I know, all of Kat's girls currently offering incalls are not what I'd consider GFE (and they'll tell you that when booking an appointment if they know that's what you want). So if you want the real RT experience, it has to be an outcall. That's my advice for what it's worth, take it or leave it.
Stay safe, and happy hunting.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Cpcdman; 1405165]"
Great pics but to bad she's not GFE.
You can show all the "spread" shot's you want to suck in all of us you want but when a lady isn't GFE honestly don't waste our time.
I just looked on the RT website and I'd like to know what is "light GFE" that's a new acronym.
Either a lady is GFE or she's not. Everything I've heard about her is that she rushes appointment's and she upsells.
So typical of RT girls.
Kat can say what she wants,"Well if you booked her through us she'd be GFE", that's BS.
I don't know about the rest of you, but I'm tired of paying good money for less than stellar service.
Just my 2 cents.[/QUOTE]Believe it or not, but there are gentlemen who are not looking for GFE.
As for your other comments, I take great offense, especially from someone who I don't believe has ever actually been a client of ours (please correct me if I'm wrong). If you have a specific issue with one of my girls who you have actually seen yourself, then please tell me, and I'll do what I can to fix it. But please do not make such general statements about girls that you have never met. If you're looking for GFE, please mention that when booking your appointment. If you're trying to schedule with a girl who is not GFE, we'll suggest you see someone else. If you still decide to see her, don't complain you weren't happy because she wasn't GFE. It's like buying a sports car instead of a pickup truck, and then complaining that it can't tow your trailer.
Xoxo Kat oxox
[QUOTE=Cpcdman; 1405368]Thanks for your post.
But I'm a little confused,"So if you want the real RT experience, it has to be an outcall"?
What difference should it make if a lady does an incall or an outcall as to what services she offers, if she's GFE for an outcall I would think she would be the same for an incall?[/QUOTE]It's not about incall or outcall effecting services, it's about which girls offer GFE and which don't. It just so happens that of Kat's current girls, the GFE ones are all outcall only. In a perfect world, they'd all be GFE. Actually in my perfect world, they'd all be GFE (including BBFS with no chance of STDs or pregnancy) , and paying me. But some people say I suffer from delusions of grandeur. But I digress. Kat is a good friend of mine, and I have a tendency to get all white knight where she's involved, which is why I try to not get involved in these conversations. So I'm going to step back now. I'm sure she'll be turning up soon herself anyway to fill in the details, or correct my statements. I may know more than most, but she doesn't involve me in every detail.
Stay safe, and happy hunting.
I know I'm in the minority here, but I am somewhat disturbed by these pics. That girl looks to be about college age at most. (If you told me she was in high school, I couldn't dispute it.) So why is such a young girl showing her face in pictures like that on a public message board? Granted, this is not the front page of Yahoo, but it's still a public board. Do her parents care what happens to her? Do her teachers care? Does her family care? Does this girl have anyone in her life who would be concerned if they saw these pics?
Never run across that term before on the internet."Light GFE". LOL. Is she petite? Never seen it posted on RSG site, either.
In my opinion, GFE refers to DATY, BBBJ and DFK, since I think we can assume that all the ladies offer CFS.
Once this gets out,"Light GFE" will be used in all the bogus ads on BP. I believe St. Bart defined the term so there would be a standard for the industry, at least in the Boston area. I have copied his post from another BoarD, going back about 10 years or so.
[QUOTE=Ho Hunter 328; 1405281]I believe RSG uses the term "light GFE" as well, although I'm unsure what the actual definition of it is. In Katie's case, I know that she does light kissing, and DATY, but no BBBJ, or DFK.
Stay safe, and happy hunting.[/QUOTE]St. Bart's GFE Scale:
"When I first started hobbying 4 years ago, I was dismayed how the term "GFE" was bandied about. Some ladies that I dated based on reviews were far, far, from GFE. The reviewer, I decided afterwards, was simply using the term to say he had a nice time, which is fine.
BUT, and always recognizing YMMV, I never had a GF that didn't DFK, or allow DATY, or give BBBJ. When these 3 acts come with enthusiastic FS, I define the experience as 100% GFE on the Saint Bart Scale. For every item missing. 10% is deducted. I usually don't like to be specific in a review about the acts I enjoyed. It can unnecessairily put a lady "on the spot" with the next hobbyist."you did ABC for him, so why not me?" That's not fair to her.
So, the SBS has just enough ambiguity to protect her, yet describe my experience. For example, I recently posted a review of Lisa from Eye Candy. She was 70% on the SBS. As I think all know, my ATF Badgirl is 100% on the SBS. Top's Penelope, with me, was 80%GFE, which reflected my YMMV as I've subsequently read others found her to be 90%GFE. IMO, this is usually all the detail required for the reader to get a good idea of the service level, subject to YMMV.
Now, sometimes extras are available that go beyond 100%GFE, and might not be allowed by your civilian GF. The two most common examples are Greek and BBBJTC. Actual CIM. To me whether she spits or swallows, it doesn't matter. These are handled in a review with a "+", or "Plus" for each act. Missy, I've written and many have enjoyed, is famous for her Plus ending. So Missy's 100%GFE+ or 100%GFE Plus. The Plus Missy earns is undefined, but all get the picture. Aussie Amber takes it one Plus further, to what I think of as a PSE. She's 100%GFE++ or 100%GFE Plus, Plus. Again, I think one gets the picture, and doesn't need the actual details. I've had rare dates that actually earned as many as 4 Plusses. More were awarded for spending the night "on the house", and for allowing pictures (hear that Nurse?). I suppose they could also be awarded for actions that don't interest me. B&D, or golden showers, etc.
Real GFs have been delivering GFEs since Adam and Eve. I've simply tried to tie it all together to help hobbyists get the info they need without putting ladies on the spot."
[QUOTE=Choir Boy;1405407]I know I'm in the minority here, but I am somewhat disturbed by these pics. That girl looks to be about college age at most. (If you told me she was in high school, I couldn't dispute it.) So why is such a young girl showing her face in pictures like that on a public message board? Granted, this is not the front page of Yahoo, but it's still a public board. Do her parents care what happens to her? Do her teachers care? Does her family care? Does this girl have anyone in her life who would be concerned if they saw these pics?[/QUOTE]No offense. But the moral dilemma you are having seemed to have happened after you logged in, clicked on the forum and then clicked on the pics. You might want to not watch football if you can't stand men hitting each other. Likewise, don't click on escort reviews if seeing hot young ladies bothers you.
What would her parents think? What would your parents or significant other think if you were paying to touch strange woman? You may want to answer the later first.
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