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Dallas had her phone stolen right at that time and lost her contacts etc. If she flaked on you that's probably why. Her email and a different, temporary phone number are in her most recent ads.
[QUOTE=ArtInOrlando;3064425]As did I when she needed a place to stay when her electric was out.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MikeFly;3061862]I don't normally write reviews of anyone especially since I don't participate frequently and also when there are much reviews already available on the forums by fellow members. I especially don't like writing negative reviews so this is only to let fellow members know of what took place. There are no such reviews of Kellie so this is the reason for writing this. I will let everyone be the judge for themselves.
I believe that all of our time is valuable including those of the ladies and ourselves. I try to respect their times and look forward to my time being respected. However, I do know that sometimes things happens so I do understand. This all started when I texted Kellie today and asked for a 5 pm get together of which she agreed and confirmed. She went cricket at the specified time but did reach out to me at around 5. 15 pm to let me know that she can't make it while I was in her area. I then mention to her that she could have at least tell me originally so I would not have wasted my time. She then threw a curve ball telling me that I said that I couldn't make it until later which never happen (seem like she can't read her text messages) which I told her that I never said anything like that and for her to check her messages. She was apologetic. Anyway that was a no go.
I then decided to give her a second try as everyone deserves a second chance and maybe for whatever reason we had a miscommunication (but there was no miscommunication). So I asked her what time she would be available today and she provided me with 8 pm. I asked her if she was sure and she indicated that she was. Hence, I confirmed with her for 8 pm. Surprise surprise, come 8 pm and she went cricket again. Over an hour later after I texted her that it was messed up to do this again, her response was "my apologizes. ".
I normally stick to girls who value our time as we value their time. However, there was no negative reviews about her flaking. Anyway, I believe that those venturing her way may want to keep in mind that she may flake when they are in her area. I had no other interaction with her so this is all I would like to add.
[URL]http://usaadultclassifieds.info/classifieds/98/posts/1-Independent-Escorts/1-Independent-Escorts/19252-The-girl-next-door.html[/URL][/QUOTE]A Couple of weeks ago I made an appointment for the following day with Kellie (under 5 foot spinner, same ad as above) and she confirmed. Day of the appointment she confirmed. I get to the area and text. Nothing. I wait a bit and text. Nothing. Wait a bit more, nothing. So, I get in my car to go home and I get a text from her. But it isn't her. It's someone who says it is her sister Jazz. Kellie isn't available but would I be interested in the sister? Okay, I knew who she was, so I tell her I am open to that. She asks about the name used in the ad. I told her I was in my car operating off my hobby phone and couldn't check. After awhile she texts back that she can't see me. I pull over, get my other mobile device and look up the god damn ad. I text back the name. I also told her who I was on the forum and could she check my reviews so she knew she was dealing with a legitimate client. I also asked why she had me come all the way out here to play games when I already had a confirmed appointment? Keep in mind there is a bunch of time between all this shit going on. We are now over an hour past my original appointment time. Then she says she needs time to go get a room. So, neither her or Kellie even had a room and it's way past my appointment time. At that point I knew this was going to take another hour, so I went home. Kellie and Jazz might be okay, but they need to stop playing stupid games. Instead of potentially earning a positive review, they jerk around a senior member who later shares that with the forum. Nice work, girls. They wasted my time. They might waste yours too. It's a good thing we have choices. I spent those Mario coins with someone else and that someone earned a positive review.
[QUOTE=Studyingray;3065652]Dallas had her phone stolen right at that time and lost her contacts etc. If she flaked on you that's probably why. Her email and a different, temporary phone number are in her most recent ads.[/QUOTE]If this is the same Dallas (blonde tatts) she bend flaking have for months she will text you weeks later when you Call no answer no response to texts I told her I was going to drop a bad review on her if she didn't straighten out I always keep my word.
I can understand your pain. It's surprising that these chicks could do that to you. I had two successful dreams with Jazz and one with Kellie. They both never flaked and were in constant touch. Both are newbies and shy. I will bring this issue with them soon.
NB1.
[QUOTE=Swim999;3068769]A Couple of weeks ago I made an appointment for the following day with Kellie (under 5 foot spinner, same ad as above) and she confirmed. Day of the appointment she confirmed. I get to the area and text. Nothing. I wait a bit and text. Nothing. Wait a bit more, nothing. So, I get in my car to go home and I get a text from her. But it isn't her. It's someone who says it is her sister Jazz. Kellie isn't available but would I be interested in the sister? Okay, I knew who she was, so I tell her I am open to that. She asks about the name used in the ad. I told her I was in my car operating off my hobby phone and couldn't check. After awhile she texts back that she can't see me. I pull over, get my other mobile device and look up the god damn ad. I text back the name. I also told her who I was on the forum and could she check my reviews so she knew she was dealing with a legitimate client. I also asked why she had me come all the way out here to play games when I already had a confirmed appointment? Keep in mind there is a bunch of time between all this shit going on. We are now over an hour past my original appointment time. Then she says she needs time to go get a room. So, neither her or Kellie even had a room and it's way past my appointment time. At that point I knew this was going to take another hour, so I went home. Kellie and Jazz might be okay, but they need to stop playing stupid games. Instead of potentially earning a positive review, they jerk around a senior member who later shares that with the forum. Nice work, girls. They wasted my time. They might waste yours too. It's a good thing we have choices. I spent those Mario coins with someone else and that someone earned a positive review.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Swim999;3068769] Kellie and Jazz might be okay, but they need to stop playing stupid games. Instead of potentially earning a positive review, they jerk around a senior member who later shares that with the forum. Nice work, girls. They wasted my time. They might waste yours too. It's a good thing we have choices. I spent those Mario coins with someone else and that someone earned a positive review.[/QUOTE]I have been with both Kellie and Jaz and never had anything but a great time. Saw Kellie last night and mentioned the fact that I've seen a couple of bad reviews on her and Jaz. She told me that a couple of people were asking way too many questions on the phone. That is a sure fired way to scare away good talent. Treat 'them right and they treat you right.
[QUOTE=ArtInOrlando;3072280]I have been with both Kellie and Jaz and never had anything but a great time. Saw Kellie last night and mentioned the fact that I've seen a couple of bad reviews on her and Jaz. She told me that a couple of people were asking way too many questions on the phone. That is a sure fired way to scare away good talent. Treat 'them right and they treat you right.[/QUOTE]I'm glad you've had a good experience with them. I wish I had. I contacted them for the same reason you did. I didn't go looking to get jerked around. They are responsible for that shit. There is this other lady I've had positive experiences with who received numerous negative reviews regarding NCNS and flaking out on clients. Guess what? She has treated me right but she deserved those reviews. I didn't white knight for her in the negative review thread. I posted my own experience in the appropriate thread (positive reviews) and moved on. Regarding Kellie and Jazz, I don't represent "a couple of people" and I've not asked either of them questions that would concern a provider. Since this was posted, I received PMs from an SM, with credibility on this forum, who advised me to skip Kellie and Jazz. He said he experienced what he believes was "clumsy interference from management" when he dealt with them. I am taking his advice and leaving it at that. They won't need to deal with me bc I won't be contacting them.
[QUOTE=PharmaGuy;3062139]I never understood the robbing thing. Why would a girl rob $100 from you when she could have made $1000 off the guy over the course of the next 6 months? I guess drugs are bad mkay.
PG.[/QUOTE]It's all about what they can do to get that quick fix or money for nothing. I remember once, I told of a sex worker I had been seeing for awhile about a girl who dashed on me. Every time she was walking, I drove right past her. If she came up to ask for money. I said no. Coldest night of the year she was the only one out and I still drove past her. I'd rather rub one out than deal with her stupidity. If they treated like a business, they'd be making a lot of money.
[QUOTE=ArtInOrlando;3072280]I have been with both Kellie and Jaz and never had anything but a great time. Saw Kellie last night and mentioned the fact that I've seen a couple of bad reviews on her and Jaz. She told me that a couple of people were asking way too many questions on the phone. That is a sure fired way to scare away good talent. Treat 'them right and they treat you right.[/QUOTE]I agree that too many questions can scare away any of these ladies. They want to be safe and so do we. I don't ask too many questions (maybe too few as a matter of fact) until we meet in person. All of our communications was via text Hence, this was not what resulted in her flaking during my experience. Regardless, I have nothing against these ladies.
So mostly on this literary site, I review an AMP, as that's my go to. Now and then, I'll look at a sister site and make a call or two, to no avail. Also, now and then, some fine authors here share some UTR digits with me, but for whatever reasons, any kind of meeting hasn't worked out. I've even tried to meet with Deliah when she's in my neighborhood on Mondays, but I'm not 'vetted' or anything.
Today, I was going to head to one of my local AMPs when I looked at a sister site and saw this ad. [URL]http://orlando.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/landyn-dσnt-mι948;948;-oυ1090;-best-of-the-best-100-are⃣e⃣a⃣l⃣-incall-only /16282173[/URL] I figured I'd finally TOFTT!
Fellas, avoid. She isn't 22. She doesn't have immaculate hygiene, bomb figure or cute face. Maybe at one time, but no. So I contacted "Landyn" as she is nearby and was told come on over and it was a hundred roses for half an hour. I inquired as to whether or not she was a smoker and she replied she's a non-smoker. I then asked for qv and 60 for a qv was agreed upon. I show up at the meeting area, and it's smokey (like a 1970's bar or airplane cabin), she's either drunk or drugged, argues over 60 qv (in the end I gave her an extra 20, I guess out of pity or sorrow or something). She began with a CBJ, but I was already not in the mood with the smoke and inaccurate description. Then we tried k9, but I wasn't working. At all. I left and will likely never again TOFTT unless it's an AMP or confirmed UTR or something. At least at an AMP, I'm clean and fresh.
[QUOTE=Tynon;3092178]So mostly on this literary site, I review an AMP, as that's my go to. Now and then, I'll look at a sister site and make a call or two, to no avail. Also, now and then, some fine authors here share some UTR digits with me, but for whatever reasons, any kind of meeting hasn't worked out. I've even tried to meet with Deliah when she's in my neighborhood on Mondays, but I'm not 'vetted' or anything.
Today, I was going to head to one of my local AMPs when I looked at a sister site and saw this ad. [URL]http://orlando.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/landyn-dσnt-mι948;948;-oυ1090;-best-of-the-best-100-are⃣e⃣a⃣l⃣-incall-only /16282173[/URL] I figured I'd finally TOFTT!
Fellas, avoid. She isn't 22. She doesn't have immaculate hygiene, bomb figure or cute face. Maybe at one time, but no. So I contacted "Landyn" as she is nearby and was told come on over and it was a hundred roses for half an hour. I inquired as to whether or not she was a smoker and she replied she's a non-smoker. I then asked for qv and 60 for a qv was agreed upon. I show up at the meeting area, and it's smokey (like a 1970's bar or airplane cabin), she's either drunk or drugged, argues over 60 qv (in the end I gave her an extra 20, I guess out of pity or sorrow or something). She began with a CBJ, but I was already not in the mood with the smoke and inaccurate description. Then we tried k9, but I wasn't working. At all. I left and will likely never again TOFTT unless it's an AMP or confirmed UTR or something. At least at an AMP, I'm clean and fresh.[/QUOTE]This chick who you visited is also a well known street walker in the Edgewate / Lee road area. Most reports on this chick have not been good. A very long time ago she was absolutely gorgeous with a body to match. Those day's are long gone. If you paid 60, you paid far too much. She normally goes for 20 buck's out walking Edgewater.
Stay away from this one. It is a group of massagers with bait and switch and misleading phone agreements.
Date of service was 9/27/16.
My provider was: Michelle.
Phone: 407-XXX-2009, but they also go by the phone number 321-XXX-2798.
URL / Website: [URL]http://orlando.backpage.com/BodyRubs/touch-of-love-hot-oil-407-234-2009/12968801[/URL] , [URL]http://orlando.backpage.com/BodyRubs/just-the-way-u-like-321-310-2798/12965170[/URL].
Appointment Type was Outcall.
I couldn't tell the Physical Description. She busty and middle-aged, but she kept her clothes on all the time!
The Rest of the Story: While on a business trip and residing in an upscale Orlando hotel, I found this ad on BPs. Upon calling, the recipient (who said she was the one coming) explicitly told me that it was $190 inclusive (including shower, kissing, FS). Well, after she got here, she told me she wasn't the person who spoke to me. The $190 was only for a clothed massage. Anything other offerings were provided based on tips: HE for $50, nude HA for $100, and complete FS for $200. I felted deflated upon hearing this, and lost my romantic mood. I opted simply to complete the massage and she left. A must to avoid. What a Rip off!
It finally happened. I was trying to help out a friend and she screwed me.
Friday morning I contact my dear friend Holly [URL]http://orlando.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/best-kept-secret-in-orlandoo/17044691[/URL] for a quick dream. She gives me the ok to swing by. When I arrive she meets me at my car and tells me that she needs a ride real quick to pick up something. I agree since her friend is in the next town over.
We arrived at the location she requested and I find out that she was getting some H and said that she need my dream funds to put towards it. My dumbass gives it to her because 1 I considered her a friend and hung out a lot in a non dream way and 2 she said that she would take care of me don't worry. So she gets it and took care of her business.
When we get back to her place she pretty much locks herself in the bathroom and takes freakin forever to shoot up. I start getting impatient because I needed to start getting ready for work soon but no luck. Then a few minutes later she tells me that someone is coming by for a quick dream and she needs me to wait. I tell her no I'm leaving and want my dream funds which of course she didn't have because she spent it on H.
I left feeling like a complete pissed off dumbass for letting this happen.
So honestly I'd keep some boundaries between her if I were you. Dreams should be fine as long as you don't give her the donation up front and don't stick around for her to use you like what happened to me.
Stay safe bros.
[QUOTE=Nael127;3095888]It finally happened. I was trying to help out a friend and she screwed me.
Friday morning I contact my dear friend Holly [URL]http://orlando.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/best-kept-secret-in-orlandoo/17044691[/URL] for a quick dream.
I left feeling like a complete pissed off dumbass for letting this happen.
.[/QUOTE]A lot of these rip offs and negative experiences can be avoided. This post is not pointed at any one person, but if the shoe fits. First, RFF. It is that simple. There are practical guidelines already posted yet many dudes ignore it and then get ripped off or fall into the same old traps. It sucks for that dude but when it works, these scam artists keep doing it! I see several things going on. Part of it is a mindset issue that some would be well advised to consider and other issues stem from ignoring sound advice posted time after time. After RFF, do your research. There are no shortcuts to that. It takes some time. Don't ask me or someone else to do it for you. There are risks involved with playing in dreamland. Not everyone in the jungle is fair and friendly. Not everyone is bad either. Research and thinking with your brain helps you reduce risks and avoid issues. The biggest risk is related to chicks that have no reviews. Do not see chicks with no reviews. Read that as many times as it takes. There is no exceptions to this for me. It is not worth the risk. Critically evaluate the reviews you see. Who posted that review? Consider the credibility of who wrote it. Is it Mr. Two posts and one is a glittering review of some chick nobody has heard of? I always pass on those. Always.
Mindset issues: Your dream is a deal, treat it like one. Your third grade teacher was wrong. None of us are special. Every one of us is simply the next horny mother fucker with money in our pocket. That's all we are. Be prepared to walk away from the deal. That empowers you more than you know. If the girl you meet isn't what was represented or acceptable to you, walk. If other people and BS get involved, walk away. If there is any BS with the donation, don't argue, just leave. If things don't look right, feel right or whatever, trust your inner voice and walk. Move on. Get in your car, go somewhere, sit down and contact someone else. You have just avoided an issue and saved your Mario coins for another dream.
Donations: I pay after services are rendered. No exceptions. Once she has the $, you have given up control of the engagement. I put the donation where she can see it. I nod to it and say "That belongs to you when we are done". Another mindset issue is all these posts from guys mentioning the word "trust". WTF? Trust is not part of the equation. Just bc you have been physically intimate with some chick does not mean you know her or should trust her. This is not your first HS girl friend. This chick will let almost anyone fuck her for some money. Never, ever put yourself in a position to be taken advantage of, bc you will be. Read the last sentence again. I'd give that advice to the chicks too. Just stick to the deal. Ignore everything else. The forum is full of dudes who have been ripped off by some chick they have seen before. A lot of these chicks are master manipulators. Hey, they know they have seen you before and your guard is down. Don't get complacent. Another mindset issue is related to keeping your emotional distance. Do not get close to these chicks or get involved in their drama. You will end up being taken advantage of. Also, do not give them unique information that identifies you. They would only give a fuck for bad reasons. I don't need any of them knowing shit about me. I know some guys bring these chicks home. I don't. I won't. I think it's a bad idea and not worth the risks. Again, you can't trust these chicks and you really can't trust their associates. If you do that, that's your decision. Perhaps you see the risks differently but don't argue with me about it. Your rational does not apply to me and mine don't apply to anyone else.
Another mindset issue is related to when things don't go well. In general, simply stop what you are doing, disengage and walk away if you can. Think through issues you've seen posted here and decide what you would do before it happens to you. Cash and dash? Are you going to chase the girl? She is running to someone. What if you catch her? Are you going to brawl with some chick in public and end up with an assault charge? Also, your sexy little miss may have a gun, blade or spray. She is scared, possibly high and pulling off her scam. Don't let looks deceive you. Where I used to live the Trannys' were known to be dangerous. Who wants to end up in the ER, or worse over a donation? What about if her management / pimp / muscle shows up? In some cases your best bet is to give up the donation and walk away if you can. Most of them want an easy victim and will let you go. If the muscle wants to rob or hurt you, think about what you will do now so you have the best chance of being able to do it. I'll give up a donation, but I'll fight like hell if anyone tries to rob or hurt me. That is my decision and I'm prepare to do that. I am not a stranger to violence. Most of you are not me. Be realistic about what you can and would do. It isn't about right or wrong, it's about what is going to work for you.
My advice is to RFF, consider your own rules ahead of time and think with your head. Stick to your rules. If we would all do that there would be a lot less rip offs and negative experiences going on. The good news is that none of what I have said will sour a nice dream from a legit lady willing to earn the Mario coins. Have fun and be safe, my brothers from other mothers.
[QUOTE=Swim999;3097114]A lot of these rip offs and negative experiences can be avoided. This post is not pointed at any one person, but if the shoe fits. First, RFF. It is that simple. There are practical guidelines already posted yet many dudes ignore it and then get ripped off or fall into the same old traps. It sucks for that dude but when it works, these scam artists keep doing it! I see several things going on. Part of it is a mindset issue that some would be well advised to consider and other issues stem from ignoring sound advice posted time after time. After RFF, do your research. There are no shortcuts to that. It takes some time. Don't ask me or someone else to do it for you. There are risks involved with playing in dreamland. Not everyone in the jungle is fair and friendly. Not everyone is bad either. Research and thinking with your brain helps you reduce risks and avoid issues. The biggest risk is related to chicks that have no reviews. Do not see chicks with no reviews. Read that as many times as it takes. There is no exceptions to this for me. It is not worth the risk. Critically evaluate the reviews you see. Who posted that review? Consider the credibility of who wrote it. Is it Mr. Two posts and one is a glittering review of some chick nobody has heard of? I always pass on those. Always.
Mindset issues: Your dream is a deal, treat it like one. Your third grade teacher was wrong. None of us are special. Every one of us is simply the next horny mother fucker with money in our pocket. That's all we are. Be prepared to walk away from the deal. That empowers you more than you know. If the girl you meet isn't what was represented or acceptable to you, walk. If other people and BS get involved, walk away. If there is any BS with the donation, don't argue, just leave. If things don't look right, feel right or whatever, trust your inner voice and walk. Move on. Get in your car, go somewhere, sit down and contact someone else. You have just avoided an issue and saved your Mario coins for another dream.
Donations: I pay after services are rendered. No exceptions. Once she has the $, you have given up control of the engagement. I put the donation where she can see it. I nod to it and say "That belongs to you when we are done". Another mindset issue is all these posts from guys mentioning the word "trust". WTF? Trust is not part of the equation. Just bc you have been physically intimate with some chick does not mean you know her or should trust her. This is not your first HS girl friend. This chick will let almost anyone fuck her for some money. Never, ever put yourself in a position to be taken advantage of, bc you will be. Read the last sentence again. I'd give that advice to the chicks too. Just stick to the deal. Ignore everything else. The forum is full of dudes who have been ripped off by some chick they have seen before. A lot of these chicks are master manipulators. Hey, they know they have seen you before and your guard is down. Don't get complacent. Another mindset issue is related to keeping your emotional distance. Do not get close to these chicks or get involved in their drama. You will end up being taken advantage of. Also, do not give them unique information that identifies you. They would only give a fuck for bad reasons. I don't need any of them knowing shit about me. I know some guys bring these chicks home. I don't. I won't. I think it's a bad idea and not worth the risks. Again, you can't trust these chicks and you really can't trust their associates. If you do that, that's your decision. Perhaps you see the risks differently but don't argue with me about it. Your rational does not apply to me and mine don't apply to anyone else.
Another mindset issue is related to when things don't go well. In general, simply stop what you are doing, disengage and walk away if you can. Think through issues you've seen posted here and decide what you would do before it happens to you. Cash and dash? Are you going to chase the girl? She is running to someone. What if you catch her? Are you going to brawl with some chick in public and end up with an assault charge? Also, your sexy little miss may have a gun, blade or spray. She is scared, possibly high and pulling off her scam. Don't let looks deceive you. Where I used to live the Trannys' were known to be dangerous. Who wants to end up in the ER, or worse over a donation? What about if her management / pimp / muscle shows up? In some cases your best bet is to give up the donation and walk away if you can. Most of them want an easy victim and will let you go. If the muscle wants to rob or hurt you, think about what you will do now so you have the best chance of being able to do it. I'll give up a donation, but I'll fight like hell if anyone tries to rob or hurt me. That is my decision and I'm prepare to do that. I am not a stranger to violence. Most of you are not me. Be realistic about what you can and would do. It isn't about right or wrong, it's about what is going to work for you.
My advice is to RFF, consider your own rules ahead of time and think with your head. Stick to your rules. If we would all do that there would be a lot less rip offs and negative experiences going on. The good news is that none of what I have said will sour a nice dream from a legit lady willing to earn the Mario coins. Have fun and be safe, my brothers from other mothers.[/QUOTE]Very good advice. Clear, concise and to the point. RW.
Complete waste of time. No show for outcall. Agreed on time and donation and gave address. She advised that she was 15 minutes away and needed to get dressed. We agreed to meet 1 hour later. She never appeared. She texted 3 hours later saying that her gps went offline and she was lost (can't imagine being lost when you live in the same general area). I laughed and told her not to worry about it.
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