If you thought the SW street scene in Milwaukee has been hot before with LE just wait. I'm sure with all this talk of a serial killer in the area over the last twenty years the MPD will be in full force on the SW strolls.
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If you thought the SW street scene in Milwaukee has been hot before with LE just wait. I'm sure with all this talk of a serial killer in the area over the last twenty years the MPD will be in full force on the SW strolls.
Im thinking too that its not just the streets LE will be going after. This is a BIG attention invesitgation and it cross into all areas of activity(streets and internet)
[QUOTE=ScooterAllCity]If you thought the SW street scene in Milwaukee has been hot before with LE just wait. I'm sure with all this talk of a serial killer in the area over the last twenty years the MPD will be in full force on the SW strolls.[/QUOTE]
This afternoon I was driving on Lincoln Av when I got the nod from a WSW across from the park. Drove around the block and stopped on the side street. Her name is Angela, she is probally in her mid twenties. About a 7+ on the sw scale. She was well dressed, clean and healthy. I received a very good BBBJCIM for .20. When I picked her up she was with a white guy, She told me he is her boyfriend and cool with what she does. He is with her when she is out giving the appearance of being a couple out for a walk. I said hi to him and he replied. He reminded of "the Dudr"
Now the Northside Strangler. I often think of the DNA left behind after an encounter. Has anyone heard from Lefty? Didn't he stop posting in 2007?
Fellow Milwaukee SW hobbyists. Keep your eyes and ears open regarding any possible rumors about this jag off azzhole who murdered 7 ebony SWs. I'm all for saying the hell to LE, but in a situation like this it's imperative that we let LE know what's going on IF we happen to have any relevant info regarding this scumbucket.
My philosophy is simple: LE can go to hell and I won't tell them a goddamn thing when it comes to victimless crimes (hobbying, possession of pot, etc.) HOWEVER, if it comes to physical violence I'll sing like a canary to LE.
Being SW hobbyists we're in an ideal situation to possibly have knowledge about this f'ckface and we should let LE know it.
Stay safe.
Without an ounce of overstatement, Milwaukee Police Chief Edward Flynn referred to prostitutes as an "extraordinarily vulnerable population."
That's true every time these women turn a trick, but much more so in our city right now.
Flynn and District Attorney John Chisholm announced this week that DNA evidence points to a serial killer preying on streetwalkers.
We know genetically who he is by unique microscopic markers in the physical evidence obtained at the murder scenes. The challenge now is to match this strand of black ovals to a real person who, it would appear, walks among us.
If police are correct, he claimed his first two victims just a day apart in October 1986. Nine years would pass before three more women now connected by DNA to this killer would be found dead in 1995. There was another in 1997, and then not until 2007, when there was one more.
The list could grow. Evidence found on two dozen more slain prostitutes is being re-examined using technologically improved DNA screening.
There were lots of articles in this newspaper in the mid- to late 1990s about similarities between murders of prostitutes on the north side. People speculated about a serial killer - words we hadn't heard much here since Jeffrey Dahmer's lethal rampage came to light a few years earlier - but the talk eventually died down.
Now there's physical evidence. The DNA doesn't lie, and it's telling us the same guy apparently hired these women, went with them to abandoned houses or other secluded places, and strangled them. (Police maintain he had sex with one of the seven women but did not kill her.)
Yet he has managed to avoid any arrests serious enough to cause a sample of his DNA to be taken for police databases. He's clever, careful or maybe just lucky.
His terrifying presence may provide added incentive for women to escape from the world's oldest profession and seek out a program such as the Sisters Project run by Milwaukee's Benedict Center.
The center's executive director, Kit Murphy McNally, said many women working as prostitutes have experienced childhood sexual abuse. They get into a downward spiral of depression, drug addiction, toxic relationships with controlling men, joblessness, homelessness and difficulty raising their own children.
"It's one of the most dangerous things they could be doing. These are desperate women," McNally said.
Contrary to what some may think, the money is lousy, she said. And the price goes down the more desperate the woman is for a fix. Sexually transmitted diseases go with the job. So does getting beat up. And then there's arrest and jail and fines to be paid, usually by repeating the cycle of sex for money.
McNally has seen women break free and regain their dignity. Some return to the same streets, but this time to help other women get out of prostitution.
The Sisters Project has suffered on and off from a lack of funding, but Congresswoman Gwen Moore recently secured about $100,000 in federal dollars to keep it going, McNally said.
That's fortunate, because numbers provided by the police chief point to the urgency of the situation. From 1986 to 2007, 42 prostitutes were murdered in Milwaukee. The rate of catching the killers is just 31%, compared with 78% for all homicides here.
Police and prosecutors, who are teamed up with state and federal agents on a special task force, need all the help they can get right now to nail this guy. The tip line is (414) 935-1212.
Until then, every soul-crushing time that a prostitute hooks up with a customer in this city, she needs to worry, "Is this him?"
LaTaryn Williams trusts her instincts when it comes to the men who proposition her for sex on Milwaukee's north side.
"You have your intuition," Williams said. "If I'm not feeling it, I won't get in" the car.
The 30-year-old has been selling sex for money and drugs for several years.
Experience has also taught her that gut feelings won't necessarily save her from the serial killer authorities believe may have killed at least six street-level prostitutes since 1988.
It didn't save her cousin, Joyce Mims. Mims is one of the Milwaukee women suspected of being slain by the killer. Her strangled body was found in a vacant house in 1997.
"I'm scared, but you know you just keep going," Williams said. "You gotta keep going."
At 18, Williams was sober and innocent when Mims was murdered.
"Back then you couldn't tell me I'd be out here right now," she said. "I was devastated (about Mims' death). She was my favorite cousin."
Mims had four boys and loved to spoil Williams, the only girl in the family, taking her shopping and treating her like a daughter.
Williams knew Mims was prostituting herself. Everybody knew. And everybody worried.
They blamed the drugs, something Williams didn't fully understand at the time.
Today she does.
Drugs are why she continues to risk her life almost daily. They are more powerful than any fear of a serial killer.
The money Williams earns on the street - $500 on a good day, she said - goes directly to her drug habit.
"It's the addiction," she says, standing on curb at N. 33rd and W. Vine streets.
Williams, a mother of four, says she carries pepper spray to protect herself and is especially leery of quiet men.
"Anybody can be violent. You never know. It could be someone I know," she says, maybe a regular customer.
But for now, as long as the drugs call her name, Williams will sell her body to get her fix.
"I don't know what it's going to take to stop me," she says with a sigh. "I just hope and pray to God that I don't run into him."
Getting out
Teresa Siner doesn't like to think of herself as a former prostitute. For her, too, it was the drugs that drove her to do certain things. Things she wasn't proud of.
She'd see the money flash through a man's fingers and images of being high gripped her.
So strong were those highs that nothing would get in her way. Not even a serial killer.
Siner, 44, who says she stopped using drugs and selling sex several years ago, remembers when a friend, a prostitute, disappeared in 2000. She turned up dead, her body covered in cigarette burns. Police never found the killer.
"I was pissed," she said. "I thought they (police) just didn't care."
Siner now wonders if they will eventually link the serial killer to her friend's death.
"When you get high, you feel fearless," Siner said. "I thought as long as I was with people I knew, I'd be OK. I wasn't as safe as I thought I was."
Siner guesses the killer lures women with drugs and preys on their vulnerability.
"A lot of them (prostitutes) don't have family and direction and don't feel like they have help. They just want to know, where can I go to get a good night's sleep and something to eat? These men know that and just take advantage."
And no matter how hard a prostitute might try to protect herself, the only sure way is to stop prostituting, she said.
"I would tell all of them to begin by praying," she said. "You can't do it by yourself."
A former Milwaukee prostitute spoke out about life on the street. She worked near North Avenue for years; the same area the North Side Strangler targeted.
The former prostitute "Jenny" says the prostitutes try to look out for each other, but that there is little they can do to help once a woman gets into a car with an unknown man.
"Was there ever talk that maybe there was a serial killer out there?" Today's TMJ4 Reporter Heather Shannon asked.
"Well, you know, things happen, and when something happens to you, you usually pass the word, you know, to look out for this," Jenny replied.
Jenny was never warned of a serial killer, or of the unsolved murders.
"Are you surprised these have gone unsolved as long as they have?" Heather Shannon asked.
"I just think that really, they don't care. It's people on the street, addicted to drugs," Jenny replied.
She said the fear of being killed is just part of the job.
"When you're out there, it happens. Every single day it happens," she said.
Despite the dangers of the job, Jenny believes most prostitutes won't quit.
"Everybody I knew was on crack cocaine," Jenny said. "They'll do whatever it takes to get another hit."
She hopes news of a serial killer will be enough to keep at least some women off the streets.
"It's your choice if you want to stay in that lifestyle or end up in jail or dead," she said.
Jenny got help through Franciscan Peacemakers. They work with prostitutes to try and get them off the streets and off of drugs.
[QUOTE=Mako Shark]Tnt in clyman is now called "The Hardware Store". I've gotten digits from a couple of the girls in the past. The last one never called back, and she'd promised to DT me. Damn.
Honey, I'll only be gone a little while. I have to run to the hardware store.[/QUOTE]
Wouldn't take out be an issue from a logistic standpoint, especially if you're just visiting from out of town?
I don't know, maybe some of you more experienced mongers can give me pointers.
Let's use this place in Clyman as an example. It's about 45mins to an hour away from Milwaukee. Gas there and back is $15. Admission and beverage(s) is around $10-20. A couple of lap dances and tips is $50. All in all, you're looking at $75 to $100 before any TO is even in play.
If you're lucky enough to find TO, you have to wait for their shift to end then find a place. And I'm assuming since they are dancers, it's going to be pricier than your average SW. I'm guessing CL prices.
[QUOTE=X Factor414]Wouldn't take out be an issue from a logistic standpoint, especially if you're just visiting from out of town?
I don't know, maybe some of you more experienced mongers can give me pointers.
Let's use this place in Clyman as an example. It's about 45mins to an hour away from Milwaukee.[/QUOTE]
What if you drive from Milwaukee, and then find a dancer that also lives in Milwaukee, as I doubt many of the dancers lives in Clyman. Does take out have to be the same night?
I picked up a nice clean polite hottie on 27th this week. But she had braces & refused to give head.
Last week I picked a gal up around MLK & Center & I dropped her off at the gas station on Center when I was done. And then this crazy old man came running over to me carrying a big box, yelling "Hey". I had to wonder what was in that box. Was he the serial killer?
CM
With the SW killer on the loose, has any of the senior members thought about our old friend Lefty ? I dont know maybe its just me .
[QUOTE=Lvrndazz]With the SW killer on the loose, has any of the senior members thought about our old friend Lefty ? I dont know maybe its just me .[/QUOTE]
Probably writing fiction novels in heaven.
Hello, room, last night picked up this hsw she's about a 5 in my book very nice but boy did she smell like beer, she had to be around 25 but anyways 20 for all.
[QUOTE=Mister Quick]Without an ounce of overstatement, Milwaukee Police Chief Edward Flynn referred to prostitutes as an "extraordinarily vulnerable population."
That's true every time these women turn a trick, but much more so in our city right now.
Flynn and District Attorney John Chisholm announced this week that DNA evidence points to a serial killer preying on streetwalkers.
We know genetically who he is by unique microscopic markers in the physical evidence obtained at the murder scenes. The challenge now is to match this strand of black ovals to a real person who, it would appear, walks among us.
If police are correct, he claimed his first two victims just a day apart in October 1986. Nine years would pass before three more women now connected by DNA to this killer would be found dead in 1995. There was another in 1997, and then not until 2007, when there was one more.
The list could grow. Evidence found on two dozen more slain prostitutes is being re-examined using technologically improved DNA screening.
There were lots of articles in this newspaper in the mid- to late 1990s about similarities between murders of prostitutes on the north side. People speculated about a serial killer - words we hadn't heard much here since Jeffrey Dahmer's lethal rampage came to light a few years earlier - but the talk eventually died down.
Now there's physical evidence. The DNA doesn't lie, and it's telling us the same guy apparently hired these women, went with them to abandoned houses or other secluded places, and strangled them. (Police maintain he had sex with one of the seven women but did not kill her.)
Yet he has managed to avoid any arrests serious enough to cause a sample of his DNA to be taken for police databases. He's clever, careful or maybe just lucky.
His terrifying presence may provide added incentive for women to escape from the world's oldest profession and seek out a program such as the Sisters Project run by Milwaukee's Benedict Center.
The center's executive director, Kit Murphy McNally, said many women working as prostitutes have experienced childhood sexual abuse. They get into a downward spiral of depression, drug addiction, toxic relationships with controlling men, joblessness, homelessness and difficulty raising their own children.
"It's one of the most dangerous things they could be doing. These are desperate women," McNally said.
Contrary to what some may think, the money is lousy, she said. And the price goes down the more desperate the woman is for a fix. Sexually transmitted diseases go with the job. So does getting beat up. And then there's arrest and jail and fines to be paid, usually by repeating the cycle of sex for money.
McNally has seen women break free and regain their dignity. Some return to the same streets, but this time to help other women get out of prostitution.
The Sisters Project has suffered on and off from a lack of funding, but Congresswoman Gwen Moore recently secured about $100,000 in federal dollars to keep it going, McNally said.
That's fortunate, because numbers provided by the police chief point to the urgency of the situation. From 1986 to 2007, 42 prostitutes were murdered in Milwaukee. The rate of catching the killers is just 31%, compared with 78% for all homicides here.
Police and prosecutors, who are teamed up with state and federal agents on a special task force, need all the help they can get right now to nail this guy. The tip line is (414) 935-1212.
Until then, every soul-crushing time that a prostitute hooks up with a customer in this city, she needs to worry, "Is this him?"
LaTaryn Williams trusts her instincts when it comes to the men who proposition her for sex on Milwaukee's north side.
"You have your intuition," Williams said. "If I'm not feeling it, I won't get in" the car.
The 30-year-old has been selling sex for money and drugs for several years.
Experience has also taught her that gut feelings won't necessarily save her from the serial killer authorities believe may have killed at least six street-level prostitutes since 1988.
It didn't save her cousin, Joyce Mims. Mims is one of the Milwaukee women suspected of being slain by the killer. Her strangled body was found in a vacant house in 1997.
"I'm scared, but you know you just keep going," Williams said. "You gotta keep going."
At 18, Williams was sober and innocent when Mims was murdered.
"Back then you couldn't tell me I'd be out here right now," she said. "I was devastated (about Mims' death). She was my favorite cousin."
Mims had four boys and loved to spoil Williams, the only girl in the family, taking her shopping and treating her like a daughter.
Williams knew Mims was prostituting herself. Everybody knew. And everybody worried.
They blamed the drugs, something Williams didn't fully understand at the time.
Today she does.
Drugs are why she continues to risk her life almost daily. They are more powerful than any fear of a serial killer.
The money Williams earns on the street - $500 on a good day, she said - goes directly to her drug habit.
"It's the addiction," she says, standing on curb at N. 33rd and W. Vine streets.
Williams, a mother of four, says she carries pepper spray to protect herself and is especially leery of quiet men.
"Anybody can be violent. You never know. It could be someone I know," she says, maybe a regular customer.
But for now, as long as the drugs call her name, Williams will sell her body to get her fix.
"I don't know what it's going to take to stop me," she says with a sigh. "I just hope and pray to God that I don't run into him."
Getting out
Teresa Siner doesn't like to think of herself as a former prostitute. For her, too, it was the drugs that drove her to do certain things. Things she wasn't proud of.
She'd see the money flash through a man's fingers and images of being high gripped her.
So strong were those highs that nothing would get in her way. Not even a serial killer.
Siner, 44, who says she stopped using drugs and selling sex several years ago, remembers when a friend, a prostitute, disappeared in 2000. She turned up dead, her body covered in cigarette burns. Police never found the killer.
"I was pissed," she said. "I thought they (police) just didn't care."
Siner now wonders if they will eventually link the serial killer to her friend's death.
"When you get high, you feel fearless," Siner said. "I thought as long as I was with people I knew, I'd be OK. I wasn't as safe as I thought I was."
Siner guesses the killer lures women with drugs and preys on their vulnerability.
"A lot of them (prostitutes) don't have family and direction and don't feel like they have help. They just want to know, where can I go to get a good night's sleep and something to eat? These men know that and just take advantage."
And no matter how hard a prostitute might try to protect herself, the only sure way is to stop prostituting, she said.
"I would tell all of them to begin by praying," she said. "You can't do it by yourself."
A former Milwaukee prostitute spoke out about life on the street. She worked near North Avenue for years; the same area the North Side Strangler targeted.
The former prostitute "Jenny" says the prostitutes try to look out for each other, but that there is little they can do to help once a woman gets into a car with an unknown man.
"Was there ever talk that maybe there was a serial killer out there?" Today's TMJ4 Reporter Heather Shannon asked.
"Well, you know, things happen, and when something happens to you, you usually pass the word, you know, to look out for this," Jenny replied.
Jenny was never warned of a serial killer, or of the unsolved murders.
"Are you surprised these have gone unsolved as long as they have?" Heather Shannon asked.
"I just think that really, they don't care. It's people on the street, addicted to drugs," Jenny replied.
She said the fear of being killed is just part of the job.
"When you're out there, it happens. Every single day it happens," she said.
Despite the dangers of the job, Jenny believes most prostitutes won't quit.
"Everybody I knew was on crack cocaine," Jenny said. "They'll do whatever it takes to get another hit."
She hopes news of a serial killer will be enough to keep at least some women off the streets.
"It's your choice if you want to stay in that lifestyle or end up in jail or dead," she said.
Jenny got help through Franciscan Peacemakers. They work with prostitutes to try and get them off the streets and off of drugs.[/QUOTE]
Any of you Milwaukee mongers know the chic posted in the pic??? The kid knows you have a serial killer on the loose but when the kid seen the pic, all he saw was hips lol.. Forgive me.
Thats all fine and all but who know's maybe he's dead its 2009 last killing was 2007 how old do you think he is now. He's a old man by now.
[QUOTE=Big Taco]Thats all fine and all but who know's maybe he's dead its 2009 last killing was 2007 how old do you think he is now. He's a old man by now.[/QUOTE]I thought the same thing until they tied him to that murder in 2007. There have been none tied to him since 1997 until the latest one was matched to the same DNA.I assumed he tipped over after 1997.
Have any of you men visited this place? If so whaddayathink?
[url]http://local.yahoo.com/info-46222822-m-r-erotic-massages-milwaukee[/url]
It says they speak English.
CM