Tips, Tricks, Arguing, and Bullshit

[QUOTE=UsedToBeDoctor;5267460]GoodMorning All.

Never pay upfront either before arrival using cash app etc or any portion thereof. Once there they want it upfront explain you never do that you're sorry if they've been ripped off in the past but afterwards they will be donated and not until, you'd be glad to show them that you have it but be careful some will grab it and run and never never never leave it laying out. Offer an apology thanking her and you understand but start to leave they have your money already spent she will relent most times. I've had them once get on the phone calling Dude to collect and I managed to beat feet post haste to my car before he arrived. You must remain in control of the situation and stay in a position of power and once the money is exchanged she can toss you or leave you sitting in an empty hotel room with your pants around your ankles. I never carry cash to a visit anymore checking in advance that I can do cash app afterwards I am not the warrior I once was carrying cash into some of these situations is asking to be robbed by a skinny nervous handler.

Usedtobedoctor.[/QUOTE]Thanks Doc. I do know enough to not pay via cashapp, but what if they do an outcall to you?

[QUOTE=MidwestDude;5267521]Thanks Doc. I do know enough to not pay via cashapp, but what if they do an outcall to you?[/QUOTE]If they ask upon arrival say I'm sorry afterwards we will take care of that. But remember in her head she has your money spent. Follow up with I understand if you won't do that as yoau are walking towards the door to show them out. But really the subject should of came up before her arrival if there was going to be an issue. I never bring it up I just assume that's what we're doing afterwards. Like James Brown used to say. Static don't start none won't be none.

Usedtobedoctor.

[QUOTE=EdibleButtPlug;5231172]So, I've noticed a lot of you complaining about the quality anymore. For one, we have a famous porn star in our city that is only 3/ hr to see. A very Wild lady if you catch my drift. For another, there are several 8-9's on the 10 scale on alligator. Kimbaby looks like Emma Watson's sister and Stacey Banks is just a dime piece for examples. You guys just got lazy and went for the easy pickings.[/QUOTE]Who, Stacey Banks? Thanks!

[QUOTE=MidwestDude;5267521]Thanks Doc. I do know enough to not pay via cashapp, but what if they do an outcall to you?[/QUOTE]Never Pay Up Front or In Advance zero zip ziltch, never, Ever. Ever.

Only have on hand the agreed amount, if robbed give it up, it"s Not worth the troubles to put your Life at risk.

Still looking for a reliable, good cocksucker, UTR preferred. 20's to 30's. 7+ Cute Face and Eager to swallow a load If anyone would be so kind to shoot me a PM if you wouldn't mind sharing??

I'm pretty new here. What's the best way to send the message to the masseuse that your interested in a HE?

[QUOTE=Brak1760;5279570]I'm pretty new here. What's the best way to send the message to the masseuse that your interested in a HE?[/QUOTE]Lay down face down butt ass naked.

Open your legs a little when she gets close to the boys or your asshole.

On the flip, flex your dick every time she gets even close maybe stroke her leg or ass if either gets close to your hand.

Most of the time, if she doesn't throw a towel on your dick on the flip, and you're relatively hard after the flip, she'll let you know what's available. If not, just just motion.

It's usually a standard offer if available, or just a hint that more is available but only on repeat visits.

I know of at least one member who screens providers by taking them to lunch or dinner first. He says it saves him time and money. What is the protocol for that? I assume that you pick up or meet the provider, eat, and / or maybe buy them a drink or 2. Do you pay them anything for their time?

My idea is that the dinner and / or drinks is payment for their time. There are several opportunities to back out. My preference would be to have them meet me at the restaurant and tell them to go to the entrance. If they are too late, I'd be out. At the first sign of being catfished, I'd be out. If they make it inside and get to the point of ordering, but I sense that further time would be wasted, I'd be out without buying drinks. If they make it to the end of dinner and I've offered to buy them drinks, I assume that I'd want to either continue the date at a negotiated rate in a more intimate environment, or end it and schedule something in the near future.

Honestly, I really don't want to hook up with a provider who is "all about her business". I look for a bit of a connection and somebody I might want to give repeat business. Advertisers who come off as all business are a turn-off and an automatic no-go for me. I prefer providers who make the effort to have their customers feel wanted and liked. I enjoy providers like Neveah with whom you can connect. I've taken her out to eat after a date, even though I'm sure her husband was staying in the next room and happened to pull up next to me while I was dropping her off afterward. I've had casual dates with most of the providers with whom I was a regular customer.

Does that sound fair?

Thanks in advance!

[QUOTE=RockyRhodes;5295673]I know of at least one member who screens providers by taking them to lunch or dinner first. He says it saves him time and money. What is the protocol for that? I assume that you pick up or meet the provider, eat, and / or maybe buy them a drink or 2. Do you pay them anything for their time?

My idea is that the dinner and / or drinks is payment for their time. There are several opportunities to back out. My preference would be to have them meet me at the restaurant and tell them to go to the entrance. If they are too late, I'd be out. At the first sign of being catfished, I'd be out. If they make it inside and get to the point of ordering, but I sense that further time would be wasted, I'd be out without buying drinks. If they make it to the end of dinner and I've offered to buy them drinks, I assume that I'd want to either continue the date at a negotiated rate in a more intimate environment, or end it and schedule something in the near future.

Honestly, I really don't want to hook up with a provider who is "all about her business". I look for a bit of a connection and somebody I might want to give repeat business. Advertisers who come off as all business are a turn-off and an automatic no-go for me. I prefer providers who make the effort to have their customers feel wanted and liked. I enjoy providers like Neveah with whom you can connect. I've taken her out to eat after a date, even though I'm sure her husband was staying in the next room and happened to pull up next to me while I was dropping her off afterward. I've had casual dates with most of the providers with whom I was a regular customer.

Does that sound fair?

Thanks in advance![/QUOTE]Are we talking about 500 dollar plus providers? Because no low end girl posting on STG is going to meet up for lunch, especially for free. No to mention, I wouldn't want to be caught anywhere in public with 99% of the girls I see. I don't deem any of them up to my real scale of taking on a date, I'll pay to bang them, but never for their actual time. However some high end girls who post on other sites offer dinner dates as part of their service for a fee, then you can extend that to something else for an additional fee, but none of that is my style.

[QUOTE=RockyRhodes;5295673]I know of at least one member who screens providers by taking them to lunch or dinner first. He says it saves him time and money. What is the protocol for that? I assume that you pick up or meet the provider, eat, and / or maybe buy them a drink or 2. Do you pay them anything for their time?

My idea is that the dinner and / or drinks is payment for their time. There are several opportunities to back out. My preference would be to have them meet me at the restaurant and tell them to go to the entrance. If they are too late, I'd be out. At the first sign of being catfished, I'd be out. If they make it inside and get to the point of ordering, but I sense that further time would be wasted, I'd be out without buying drinks. If they make it to the end of dinner and I've offered to buy them drinks, I assume that I'd want to either continue the date at a negotiated rate in a more intimate environment, or end it and schedule something in the near future.

Honestly, I really don't want to hook up with a provider who is "all about her business". I look for a bit of a connection and somebody I might want to give repeat business. Advertisers who come off as all business are a turn-off and an automatic no-go for me. I prefer providers who make the effort to have their customers feel wanted and liked. I enjoy providers like Neveah with whom you can connect. I've taken her out to eat after a date, even though I'm sure her husband was staying in the next room and happened to pull up next to me while I was dropping her off afterward. I've had casual dates with most of the providers with whom I was a regular customer.

Does that sound fair?

Thanks in advance![/QUOTE]You are lucky you can get any of these addicts to answer a text or show up for a session on time, let alone a dinner date. Their lifestyles and priorities revolve around getting their next fix. This isn't a job for them where they want to provide exceptional service to build up a loyal clientele. They could care less about getting to know you and would prefer not to have any sexual contact with you and still get paid, if that were possible. I couldn't envision myself being seen in public with any of the local providers. If you want to have dinner and get to know a girl before you spend money to screw her, go on a sugar daddy site, like SA. It's worth the extra cost.

[QUOTE=RockyRhodes;5295673]I know of at least one member who screens providers by taking them to lunch or dinner first. He says it saves him time and money. What is the protocol for that? I assume that you pick up or meet the provider, eat, and / or maybe buy them a drink or 2. Do you pay them anything for their time?

My idea is that the dinner and / or drinks is payment for their time. There are several opportunities to back out. My preference would be to have them meet me at the restaurant and tell them to go to the entrance. If they are too late, I'd be out. At the first sign of being catfished, I'd be out. If they make it inside and get to the point of ordering, but I sense that further time would be wasted, I'd be out without buying drinks. If they make it to the end of dinner and I've offered to buy them drinks, I assume that I'd want to either continue the date at a negotiated rate in a more intimate environment, or end it and schedule something in the near future.

Honestly, I really don't want to hook up with a provider who is "all about her business". I look for a bit of a connection and somebody I might want to give repeat business. Advertisers who come off as all business are a turn-off and an automatic no-go for me. I prefer providers who make the effort to have their customers feel wanted and liked. I enjoy providers like Neveah with whom you can connect. I've taken her out to eat after a date, even though I'm sure her husband was staying in the next room and happened to pull up next to me while I was dropping her off afterward. I've had casual dates with most of the providers with whom I was a regular customer.

Does that sound fair?

Thanks in advance![/QUOTE]I have to agree with the other responses mostly. Some of these girls are looking for serious help sometimes. One girl many of you know suggested moving into my house because it looked like I had room. She's a sweet girl but I can't have a known provider living in my neighbourhood. You run the danger of getting too close to someone who will potentially be a drain on you and your resources, or god forbid legal trouble. That's not to say I haven't clicked with providers and had experiences that were maybe a little more than just a transaction. I think a few were relieved to see me again because they had good experiences with me before. Better than meeting someone new and going into an unfamiliar situation. But for the most part I prefer to ejaculate and evacuate. Like Charlie Sheen said, I'm not paying them for sex I'm paying them to leave afterwards.

[QUOTE=BlowInHer;5296100]Are we talking about 500 dollar plus providers? Because no low end girl posting on STG is going to meet up for lunch, especially for free. No to mention, I wouldn't want to be caught anywhere in public with 99% of the girls I see. I don't deem any of them up to my real scale of taking on a date, I'll pay to bang them, but never for their actual time. However some high end girls who post on other sites offer dinner dates as part of their service for a fee, then you can extend that to something else for an additional fee, but none of that is my style.[/QUOTE]I'm definitely not talking about 500 dollar escorts. I assume that when paying that much, you guys get what you pay for. I look for what I call hidden gems, like Neveah who I mentioned. She's pretty, has a good personality, aims to please, and has a well-proportioned body even if she is larger than the spinner types I prefer.

The most I've ever paid is 200 except for my best ever, who was ebony pornstar Jayden Hart on an overnight date. I used to say I wouldn't go above 160, but these days guys must be paying more for less, so I might have to pay 200 like I did once before with Pretty614 who now wants 400. She wasn't even worth 200. I didn't even pay 200 for Rebecca Wild, with whom I had 2 good dates (YMMV and most guys weren't as lucky as me with her). It might have helped that I didn't mind that she ran late on them because she made up for it with completely unrushed time. It was very much like experiences I have with my FWBs except I hired her, and she performed like she does in her scenes.

Since a person can be friends with anyone, I have no qualms about being seen in public with anyone else, but I also have certain standards. I'm not looking for addicts, ugly or fat chicks. I could care less if they are younger, a different race or cause people to stare at us.

Do you actually enjoy the risk factor with unknown providers and the chance they could be Uncle LEO? I know you have a lot more experiences than I do, even when disregarding your massages. How do you screen escorts to avoid wasting time / money / rip-offs / Uncle LEO? It seems like you're more carefree about it than me.

My question related to using a lunch / dinner date as a way to pre-screen an escort that nobody has already reported on. The one I'm thinking about is Coco. You said you don't use Duo or Facetime, which I have used successfully.

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[QUOTE=JizMan;5296150]You are lucky you can get any of these addicts to answer a text or show up for a session on time, let alone a dinner date. Their lifestyles and priorities revolve around getting their next fix. This isn't a job for them where they want to provide exceptional service to build up a loyal clientele. They could care less about getting to know you and would prefer not to have any sexual contact with you and still get paid, if that were possible. I couldn't envision myself being seen in public with any of the local providers. If you want to have dinner and get to know a girl before you spend money to screw her, go on a sugar daddy site, like SA. It's worth the extra cost.[/QUOTE]I am lucky. I have mostly avoided addicts, but I have hooked up with some bipolar chicks that I wish I hadn't. There are plenty of chicks who avoid all sexual contact and still get paid by morons and idiots. I have young female friends who occasionally escort that would and do have sex with me for free. Somehow they are able to get other guys to give them cars, jewelry, 3 grand a month allowances, and other benefits. I just don't get it. They aren't addicts, but they use drugs.

There are drug and alcohol users, and there are addicts. I use alcohol and / or drugs occasionally, but not regularly. I do it when partying with others like me. For example, I know that Neveah smokes weed, but she doesn't seem to be an addict to anything. Addicts can't control a physical need and get sick when they don't use. I had no problem being seen in public with her either.

I had an escort back in 2014 that I saw twice before she became a FWB. I wanted more of a sure thing with frequency, so I made her my sugar baby. It didn't work out after one date, and I dropped her as my sugar baby and didn't want her as a FWB or friend anymore either. Sugar babies are out.

I consider getting together with escorts every day. I also don't have any interest in SWs. Looking at the TRG page and driving along Sully regularly, I wouldn't be interested in 99% even if they offered to pay me, unless it was 10's of 1000's of dollars. Kimmy and Payton look great but are exceptions. I had Payton when she was 19 and had never been a SW to my knowledge. I took a chance with Kimmy as a SW in the Summer 2016 because she looked great, was very sexy and it turned out to be a good move. Ashley Firefantasy actually looks prettier in her TRG mugshot than in her ads IMO. Cecilia (RIP) looked good in her ads, but her mugshots were ugly.

I want to define my use of FWB. These are attractive women with whom I'm friends. Some of them I see frequently, and others once in a while. There is no guarantee that we will have sex, but we have had good sex at least twice. Some are past girlfriends. Some have boyfriends and see me on the side. For me there is a certain excitement about getting together with them. Sometimes I know I will be getting laid when they call to hang out. We get along well. There's always a chance of getting laid again, otherwise they revert to being friends, acquaintances or ex-friends. If a woman is my FWB, she gets a higher priority for hanging out than other friends because of the sex angle.

I appreciate the advice.

Wasn't sure exactly where to put this, but whereas I generally consider OnlyFans to be a waste of money, I was wondering if anyone has experience or knowledge of the possibility of subscribing to and DM'ing enough with a given pornstar to arrange an irl rendezvous. I am aware that some pornstars list themselves on specialized escort services, but I wonder if there are some who do that, but keep it on the downlow.

[QUOTE=LecherousMonk;5298226]Wasn't sure exactly where to put this, but whereas I generally consider OnlyFans to be a waste of money, I was wondering if anyone has experience or knowledge of the possibility of subscribing to and DM'ing enough with a given pornstar to arrange an irl rendezvous. I am aware that some pornstars list themselves on specialized escort services, but I wonder if there are some who do that, but keep it on the downlow.[/QUOTE]That platform specifically prohibits real life meetings. They flag all kinds of words that reference it. Girls get kicked off.

Might be able to move it to a snap or something else but you'd have to figure out how to get the message across so it doesn't get flagged.

[QUOTE=SevenInche;5296813]I have to agree with the other responses mostly. Some of these girls are looking for serious help sometimes. One girl many of you know suggested moving into my house because it looked like I had room. She's a sweet girl but I can't have a known provider living in my neighbourhood. You run the danger of getting too close to someone who will potentially be a drain on you and your resources, or god forbid legal trouble. That's not to say I haven't clicked with providers and had experiences that were maybe a little more than just a transaction. I think a few were relieved to see me again because they had good experiences with me before. Better than meeting someone new and going into an unfamiliar situation. But for the most part I prefer to ejaculate and evacuate. Like Charlie Sheen said, I'm not paying them for sex I'm paying them to leave afterwards.[/QUOTE]I have it under good authority that the line, "I don't pay women for sex; I pay them to leave", was first uttered by Clark Gable. . . Though he's likely to have pilfered it from someone.