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[QUOTE=SRH59;7451174]I was chatting with her for a bit. Couldn't meet given some travel but the conversation felt like a legitimate young woman just sampling the bowl. Enjoyable. Then she ghosted and I never followed up. Figured I missed the window (I can only be so charming on text for so long LOL). I was definitely curious but just wasn't sure I was into it enough. I guess the question is, why make that jump so fast? I'd have expected she could have lined up an SD roster at 500 or so. Not sure she'll get those tryst rates.[/QUOTE]Obviously, her ivy league education didn't add any value since her profession is a prostitute I remember seeing her pics she's mid. I refuse to believe anyone would pay more than 5.

I think the correct term for you. Me and the rest of the community is not PPM, but PPFS. Pay Per Fuck Session.

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;7453263]I've recently figured out the ambiguity of 'ppm'. We mean from that pay per meet of course, but different girls think of this a different way.

I have had several ask if I was OK w / ppm, and it becomes apparent in further conversation that they mean the initial M&G is a meet, therefore they should get an allowance for that.

I don't have a problem paying for an uber (though seems like they always say their uber was $50), or maybe a babysitter, or giving a gift (that I choose, not that she demands), but a full allowance to watch her drink a latte? No way.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=CuriousVaMan;7453601]I think the correct term for you. Me and the rest of the community is not PPM, but PPFS. Pay Per Fuck Session.[/QUOTE]You're not wrong, I agree 100% with you! But many--if not most--sugar babies won't see it that way.

This is why I'm pretty direct beforehand that a first meet will always be at a Starbucks or bar near their place. I would point out the advantages: they won't be wasting much time as it's close to their home, I don't waste money at a restaurant, and both of us can go our separate ways if expectations / demands aren't in alignment from said M&G. First meets is where both sides lay the ground rules of what the sugaring relationship will look like (agreeing to a [B]reasonable PPM price that includes fucking[/B]). If they want to host, great! And if they prefer me to get a hotel instead, that's fine too so long as it's communicated ahead of time.

The millisecond that I hear demands for Uber ride money (which might not even be for Uber in the first place), coming across as a snobbish brat & expecting gifts because she look at guys as "pay pigs" (that's apparently a thing), PBM (please don't ever do this, guys), having shitty comms the day of, or wanting some other stuff that I'm not entirely comfortable with? Nope, time to cut ties and move on. We johns are allowed to have standards & expectations too. Plenty of fish in the sea, and no one should overpay for pussy. Better to save up and have a blast elsewhere outside of the DMV.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/b6644bf7-4c98-4df5-933f-163c60cb4197[/URL]

Anyone meet with this one yet?? Supposed to meet next week!

TIA.

Pictures accurate.

Seems like she has had a challenging time.

Wants 500 and wants to see a recent test.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/6794ba40-0e39-4e25-9b5d-2452d7788258[/URL]

[QUOTE=TomFordModel;7453379]Obviously, her ivy league education didn't add any value since her profession is a prostitute I remember seeing her pics she's mid. I refuse to believe anyone would pay more than 5.[/QUOTE]Reached out for shits and giggle through her Tryst number. Requested a recent picture, testing and $1,200 per hour. Told her sure, however does this mean you would be sending me a recent pic with your testing as well? Went silent LOL. Who the fuck asks for this on Tyrst. Don't think she will go too far in the industry.

Recently moved to the DC area from NC. Will start sending you nudes without asking and seems real. Has a baby however found it strange she would be out drinking with her baby with her. Slightly heavier than her profile pics suggest. Never discussed compensation. Won't be pursuing as she's on the chubbier side for me as well as possible drama.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/6ccd9c4d-7605-060d-265a-1fbb8054e139[/URL]

[QUOTE=Kpop1;7454679]Recently moved to the DC area from NC. Will start sending you nudes without asking and seems real. Has a baby however found it strange she would be out drinking with her baby with her. Slightly heavier than her profile pics suggest. Never discussed compensation. Won't be pursuing as she's on the chubbier side for me as well as possible drama.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/6ccd9c4d-7605-060d-265a-1fbb8054e139[/URL][/QUOTE]Her pics look good. So she's using older pics and just catfishing. After 2 kids and age 30 - her body is definitely sagging -.

I posted this in the Baltimore group, but NOVA is more active and frequently discusses topics in Maryland, so thought I'd share here as well.

Breanna: real, looks like her pictures. Unsure of what she is up for, we had drinks and that was it. Some odd texting behavior scared me off from her, but her pics are accurate, so maybe you'll have better luck.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/e...4-a2d7636880b9[/URL]

Bondgirl: real, looks like her pics. Was not clear with what she offered.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/b...d-9359ddd3bf18[/URL]

Lena: Offered a hookup for 4, unable to host.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/e...d-c4de43aea357[/URL]

Skylar: Real, looks better in person. I am not sure what she asks for others. I have some discount plan with her apparently. Really nice girl.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/e...9-44e5db437804[/URL]

Kayla: Met once, too much smoking, and looked older than her pics. I passed.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/d...e-80fd7e8e5259[/URL]

Nikki: She is a real one. Heaver than her pics indicate, but is a really nice girl and open for affordable play.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/1...6-cf0ccf1a4230[/URL]

Lauren: Heavier than her pics (see a pattern here?) But is a nice girl, and is open for play. Has a bit of GPS.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/c...0-1c3aacdb3d1c[/URL]

Avrenim: Weird. I met in person, she was cagy and odd with me. No indication of offering any playtime.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/0...a-fe7c0e90eb92[/URL]

Baby4 You: She is a real one, looks like her pics, and is ready for play basically 24/7. Usually in a low rent motel. She is a nice girl, but smokes a ton.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/e...6-6cded3b72c35[/URL]

Trinity: Is much skinner than her pics, perhaps indication of use of some sort. Had a chubby female friend with her hiding in the bathroom. Very low rent incall.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/5...7-f0f3431cf8cb[/URL]

Vanessa: Hosts, huge smoker, does not look much like her pics - 30-40 pounds heavier. GPS for what she offers.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/0...e-1cf1f65a4511[/URL]

Jennifer: Real one. Looks better in person. A fun play session.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/d...4-d175d575e9f2[/URL]

Sari: hosts from her home. Fun play session.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/6...8-545ff0e1fb9d[/URL]

SassyNikki: I am 95% sure she is a pro. May be two accounts for the same girl.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/4...5-98476f0aedf8[/URL]

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/9...f-56ddab765c57[/URL]

[QUOTE=Thulenewman;7455100]I posted this in the Baltimore group, but NOVA is more active and frequently discusses topics in Maryland, so thought I'd share here as well.[/QUOTE]However, some of the profiles kinda match with what I was able to dig up in some searches. Appreciate the intel.

[QUOTE=Shinshi;7455317]However, some of the profiles kinda match with what I was able to dig up in some searches. Appreciate the intel.[/QUOTE]Indeed. The links work on Thulenewmam's post on the "WYP, SA, and other SD sites" thread. I guess there was a glitch in the copy and paste.

There used to be no shortage of college / sorority type gurls 18-22 that would be on the site. I don't know where these girls have vanished to. Maybe they've realized it's relatively easy to get someone's identity from the site, and don't want to risk it I don't know. But this is one reason why the talent pool is just so bad right now. Another reason is a lot of like local "influencer" type girls used to be on the site. I'm sure they've built up a Rolodex and do this off the site, but it was a lot easier to find girls like that back then. They were generally of higher quality than the girls currently on the site.

I apologize for the bad links. Copy paste for the fail. If you go to this post: [URL]https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?18087-WYP-SA-and-other-SD-sites&p=7454109&viewfull=1[/URL]#post7454109.

All the links should work.

She is real, just the photos are significantly touched up and a lot of makeup.

High energy / talker but we didn't vibe great. Nice woman.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/adfba158-22e5-40e0-9977-f84f14fc7f33[/URL]

[URL]https://caseyrosephotography.com/holiday-mini-session-raleigh-boudoir-photography/[/URL]

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/885be60b-0ac4-4522-842a-d76619456b0f[/URL]

Doesn't want to discuss anything until m&g.

I found additional pics of her so its a big nah for me.

Girnextdoor.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/40fa5477-7fca-4f1c-9e14-3b42d2ab5986[/URL]

Old Asian chick. I don't even know why I chatted with her. Wants a ongoing relationship and 1 k ppm.

Like ***** you're old and busted. You should pay me.