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I don't use this site much anymore so when I woke this morning to. Count them. EIGHT texts from clients I decided to see what was up.

Lets get something straight right now. I said I didn't want to see YOU. That was well over a month ago, BTW. I have been taking a break for a little while seeing my regular hotties and gentlemen, yes. If someone is pming me here I won't get it. I have also been back and forth between here N. Ire and Brevard taking care of and seeing family.

This is what you do when you don't get your way and need attention. Let's keep it real here. You stalk ladies, you play games, you pressure them, you drive by, you call incessantly and you harass. You come into our incalls and expect to sit for hours and don't take the hint when it's time to move your arse to have some fun or to be Frank, gtfo. Apparently, you also don't think we speak to one another. You've acted real crazy to at least two providers that I know not to mention me.

This wasn't going to be the route I chose in handling you but I can see you're not going to give it a rest. (To the people who have been made aware in pm discussions of our little resident evil here I'm about to bring it alllll home for ya) Your weirdness that was setting off my warning bells all made sense when I checked the Brevard sex offender registry and WOW what a shocker (sarcasm) there you were for predatory SODOMY against a child under 16. Serious enough for you to spend 12 years in the clank over. As a mom of two there is no way in hell I want you in my home. I'm sure there are a few other sickos on my client list but based on your bizarre and seemingly predatory behavior you send me into mommy defcon-1. If any one wants / needs that proof I'll be willing to provide you the link privately.

If someone needs to get a hold of me they either need to email my yahoo (sugareurored@yahoo Or call the phone 4072565405. Unless it goes to spam or I'm not in town I will do my best to get back as soon as I am able to.

Geneva, if you continue in your harassment of myself and another provider (we both know who I'm referring to) I have no problem posting that damning link publicly. I have asked you nicely. I have told you plainly. Now this is final. Leave me and the other that you are obsessed with alone. Keep our names out of your filthy mouth. And don't even think about coming around here uninvited like you have with the other girl. I assure you that it will not go well. Thanks for getting my Irish in a bunch first thing on a Monday. Grrrrr.

Sooooo. Bottom line is: I'm not retired, haven't found a "man", and Geneva is a straight up predatory liar.

[QUOTE=GenevaMan; 1298006]A few weeks ago when I talked with her, she told me she had found "the one", and that he will be taking care of her, and no need for her to see any others. I wish her well.

Be Safe & Have Fun.

GM[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=CelticShelbie; 1298684]I don't use this site much anymore so when I woke this morning to. Count them. EIGHT texts from clients I decided to see what was up.

Lets get something straight right now. I said I didn't want to see YOU. That was well over...[/QUOTE]All I can say is wow! You got called out Gman!

V

[QUOTE=Eelectri; 1298630]Seems that you are new to the board and we will give you the benefit! The girl in question is Angel and and very good a legit provider YMWV go see her and report back.

Ee[/QUOTE]Thanks electri. I know I am new here. And extremely new to the hobby as well. I will learn the ropes / etiquette asap.

Well. Damn!

Shelbie,

I am too much of a Gentleman, and have always been that way with you and to the other Providers, to get into an open argument. Yes, I was convicted in a Military Courts-Martial of something I never did, and if anyone has had the terrible experience of going through the military justice system, then they can vouch that no military service member is protected by the US Constitution when being charged by the US Military Justice System (USMC). In fact, in 1995, the first ever challenge to the USMC was actually accepted by the US Supreme Court and it was unanimously rejected by all nine (9) justices by stating that the military service members are not accorded the same protections under the US Constitution as those of the Civilian population, and that the military may act as it sees fit in order to keep order and discipline.

As an officer inmate incarcerated at that time, I was one of the authors of that petition to the US Supreme Court, as we challenged that the entire USMC was, in fact, unconstitutional. Never before had any challenge to the USMC ever made it to the US Supreme Court, and in our petition we demonstrated that the USMC's origins were based on the Nazi's Gestapo, yes that's right, the Gestapo's tactics of bringing the Jews to trial. Here's another little fact that you probably didn't know. When a service member is charged under the USMC, any and all witnesses for the defense must be approved by the Prosecution. You heard that right. The Prosecution has all the power to determine whether or not you even have a defense. Sound like a Gestapo tactic? As an officer with over 15 years, I was totally shocked and appalled how I was summarily railroad through the system without even one witness, and I was facing the death penalty! Not even a member of my family was allowed to attend my trial, which was, ironically, held in Germany.

Here's another fact you didn't know. Just months prior to our Supreme Court ruling against our petition, the Canadian government made a ruling on it's military justice system. By sheer coincidence, and having nothing to do from us (a panel of 15 highly-ranked military officer inmates that formed an adhoc justice panel) , it seemed that Canada's own military justice system was also being challenged. The Canadian military justice system is an exact duplication of our own USMC, but this time, the Canadian government ruled that their military justice system was unconstitutional in its core. We had hoped that this ruling, just months prior to our own petition, would have bolstered our case, but in the end, our Supreme Court washed its hands of the men and women who serve our armed forces, and allowed the military to continue its barbaric judicial system.

Now, as far as, my being innocent of the charges, let me address something to the members of this great forum. Until the advent of DNA testing that has freed nearly a 100 suspected rapists and murderers after they have served over 20 years, everyone had positively believed their guilt. Those are truly the lucky ones, because they hadn't been sent to death row before DNA testing had been invented and accepted by the courts (just recently in the early 2000's) , and that there even was DNA taken and kept after all those years. In my case, as well as, hundreds of others, there never was any DNA to take, as it was only a "he said, she said" accustion. Remember, I was denied any and all witnesses.

So, how did this "predator" get a high-security job? It took over a year of background checking interviewing personnel to confirm my account of what happened to me in the USMC, and my taking multiple polygraphs with the knowledge that if I fail even one, I would never get a chance at a decent job. The military justice system will never, ever admit it has done anything wrong, but I was able to obtain a clearance and acknowledgment that I did, indeed, go through a system that is, by its very nature, an abomination of justice. I don't ever see the UCMJ being changed, as the powers-that-be don't want to open that can of worms, but your personal attack on me is unwarranted.

In all the times you and I spent together, you always expressed what a Gentleman I was, and how you truly enjoyed our times together. I won't ever go into details, as you had asked me to never reveal those, but for you to come out and attack me in this public forum, is a betray of trust, but alas, I won't betray the trust you asked of me, and will keep our times together safe, as you had requested. And, of course, instead of acknowledging that you did truly enjoy our times together, you'll say otherwise. I'm truly sorry to see that you have chosen to use such a horrible betrayal of trust.

GM

[QUOTE=CelticShelbie; 1298684]I don't use this site much anymore so when I woke this morning to. Count them. EIGHT texts from clients I decided to see what was up.

Lets get something straight right now. I said I didn't want to see YOU. That was well over a month ago, BTW. I have been taking a break for a little while seeing my regular hotties and gentlemen, yes. If someone is pming me here I won't get it. I have also been back and forth between here N. Ire and Brevard taking care of and seeing family.

This is what you do when you don't get your way and need attention. Let's keep it real here. You stalk ladies, you play games, you pressure them, you drive by, you call incessantly and you harass. You come into our incalls and expect to sit for hours and don't take the hint when it's time to move your arse to have some fun or to be Frank, gtfo. Apparently, you also don't think we speak to one another. You've acted real crazy to at least two providers that I know not to mention me.

This wasn't going to be the route I chose in handling you but I can see you're not going to give it a rest. (To the people who have been made aware in pm discussions of our little resident evil here I'm about to bring it alllll home for ya) Your weirdness that was setting off my warning bells all made sense when I checked the Brevard sex offender registry and WOW what a shocker (sarcasm) there you were for predatory SODOMY against a child under 16. Serious enough for you to spend 12 years in the clank over. As a mom of two there is no way in hell I want you in my home. I'm sure there are a few other sickos on my client list but based on your bizarre and seemingly predatory behavior you send me into mommy defcon-1. If any one wants / needs that proof I'll be willing to provide you the link privately.

If someone needs to get a hold of me they either need to email my yahoo (sugareurored@yahoo Or call the phone 4072565405. Unless it goes to spam or I'm not in town I will do my best to get back as soon as I am able to.

Geneva, if you continue in your harassment of myself and another provider (we both know who I'm referring to) I have no problem posting that damning link publicly. I have asked you nicely. I have told you plainly. Now this is final. Leave me and the other that you are obsessed with alone. Keep our names out of your filthy mouth. And don't even think about coming around here uninvited like you have with the other girl. I assure you that it will not go well. Thanks for getting my Irish in a bunch first thing on a Monday. Grrrrr.

Sooooo. Bottom line is: I'm not retired, haven't found a "man", and Geneva is a straight up predatory liar.[/QUOTE]

Has anyone seen Misha, she has been posting for a few weeks. Can't find anything with google. Any info would be great.

[url]http://orlando.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/and-new-just-landed-hot-asian-italian-mixed-hotti-visiting-26/5254783[/url]

[QUOTE=CelticShelbie; 1298684]I don't use this site much anymore so when I woke this morning to. Count them. EIGHT texts from clients I decided to see what was up.

Lets get something straight right now. I said I didn't want to see YOU. That was well over a month ago, BTW. I have been taking a break for a little while seeing my regular hotties and gentlemen, yes. If someone is pming me here I won't get it. I have also been back and forth between here N. Ire and Brevard taking care of and seeing family.

This is what you do when you don't get your way and need attention. Let's keep it real here. You stalk ladies, you play games, you pressure them, you drive by, you call incessantly and you harass. You come into our incalls and expect to sit for hours and don't take the hint when it's time to move your arse to have some fun or to be Frank, gtfo. Apparently, you also don't think we speak to one another. You've acted real crazy to at least two providers that I know not to mention me.

This wasn't going to be the route I chose in handling you but I can see you're not going to give it a rest. (To the people who have been made aware in pm discussions of our little resident evil here I'm about to bring it alllll home for ya) Your weirdness that was setting off my warning bells all made sense when I checked the Brevard sex offender registry and WOW what a shocker (sarcasm) there you were for predatory SODOMY against a child under 16. Serious enough for you to spend 12 years in the clank over. As a mom of two there is no way in hell I want you in my home. I'm sure there are a few other sickos on my client list but based on your bizarre and seemingly predatory behavior you send me into mommy defcon-1. If any one wants / needs that proof I'll be willing to provide you the link privately.

If someone needs to get a hold of me they either need to email my yahoo (sugareurored@yahoo Or call the phone 4072565405. Unless it goes to spam or I'm not in town I will do my best to get back as soon as I am able to.

Geneva, if you continue in your harassment of myself and another provider (we both know who I'm referring to) I have no problem posting that damning link publicly. I have asked you nicely. I have told you plainly. Now this is final. Leave me and the other that you are obsessed with alone. Keep our names out of your filthy mouth. And don't even think about coming around here uninvited like you have with the other girl. I assure you that it will not go well. Thanks for getting my Irish in a bunch first thing on a Monday. Grrrrr.

Sooooo. Bottom line is: I'm not retired, haven't found a "man", and Geneva is a straight up predatory liar.[/QUOTE]

GM,

This isn't good at all. It sure sounds like Shelbie has done her research and has got you by the short and curlys or maybe even something more substantial.

I've been with Shelbie five times and they were memorable except once when she had major and I mean very major personal issue that had just arisen like 15 minutes prior to my arrival. She tried to overcome the situation (due to my long drive) but the dream was not what it should have been. When she explained on the phone about the problem I only wish she would have told me so we could have mutually agreed to cancel. Would I have been mad no disappointed yes? We worked through this and came to mutually agreeable dream. I screwed up and didn't write a review.

I certainly hope GM had a good time in prison and got to receive what he dealt. I've been told by people that know the worst thing you can be in prison for the is abuse of a child. Maybe there is some good about the scum that are in there.

The point I'm making is Shelbie is top drawer with me and many others. She has been nothing but truthful and of high moral value with me and I cannot doubt her now in fact we have much in common and we both really just shooting the shit.

This sounds very serious to me and even dangerous no very dangerous. I think GM needs to go to anger management and where ever you go for sexual dysfunction issues or just commit suicide.

Shelbie and others I strongly recommend a restraining order. May not really do any good except give you something to fall back on if TSHTF.

You've got to back your friends and I back Shelbie to the hilt and the other ladies that she has mentioned (I don't know who they are but if they are good with Shelbie they are good with me) but are too scared to come forward.

This is way more serious than the little tiffs we have on here from time to time.

Marc

[QUOTE=Marc70; 1298894]GM,

This isn't good at all. It sure sounds like Shelbie has done her research and has got you by the short and curlys or maybe even something more substantial.

I've been with Shelbie five times and they were memorable except once when she had major and I mean very major personal issue that had just arisen like 15 minutes prior to my arrival. She tried to overcome the situation (due to my long drive) but the dream was not what it should have been. When she explained on the phone about the problem I only wish she would have told me so we could have mutually agreed to cancel. Would I have been mad no disappointed yes? We worked through this and came to mutually agreeable dream. I screwed up and didn't write a review.

I certainly hope GM had a good time in prison and got to receive what he dealt. I've been told by people that know the worst thing you can be in prison for the is abuse of a child. Maybe there is some good about the scum that are in there.

The point I'm making is Shelbie is top drawer with me and many others. She has been nothing but truthful and of high moral value with me and I cannot doubt her now in fact we have much in common and we both really just shooting the shit.

This sounds very serious to me and even dangerous no very dangerous. I think GM needs to go to anger management and where ever you go for sexual dysfunction issues or just commit suicide.

Shelbie and others I strongly recommend a restraining order. May not really do any good except give you something to fall back on if TSHTF.

You've got to back your friends and I back Shelbie to the hilt and the other ladies that she has mentioned (I don't know who they are but if they are good with Shelbie they are good with me) but are too scared to come forward.

This is way more serious than the little tiffs we have on here from time to time.

Marc[/QUOTE]Having spent 20 years in the military and being part of 2 seperate court martials panels, the garbage GM is spouting off about not having due process in his court martial is pure bunk. He had access to both military and civilian lawyers and all the due process availbale to any accused, just like in a civilan court. I find everything he said above totally suspect. I've never met Shelbie but just reading GM's blog above I'll have to lean toward believing Shelbie's version of this story.

[QUOTE=Citywalk;1298913]Having spent 20 years in the military and being part of 2 seperate court martials panels, the garbage GM is spouting off about not having due process in his court martial is pure bunk. He had access to both military and civilian lawyers and all the due process availbale to any accused, just like in a civilan court. I find everything he said above totally suspect. I've never met Shelbie but just reading GM's blog above I'll have to lean toward believing Shelbie's version of this story.[/QUOTE]CW,

I was hoping an unbiased military opion would come forth. Isn't this what criminals do.

Marc

This has got to be the most dysfunctional board on this entire forum. What we need is Irvingtonp to come and bring sanity to the room.

I can hear him now."Stop falling in love with these hoes".

I've never shown up at anyone's place, not Shelbie's, nor anyone's, without first being invited, so I have no idea where she's coming from there. In fact, Shelbie invited me to her place every time, as well as the "other" Provider she alludes to. I'm not sure why she even stated I've stalked her or anyone else. Oh, and as far as having a good time in prison, the one thing about a military prison is that the inmates, as well as, the prison staff, are of higher intelligence than civilian, and they do their research about any new "fish" that arrives, and they know when someone's been dealt a raw deal. During my 15+ years in the military as an officer, I went through the required classes about the UCMJ for Officer Advance Course, and never had the faintest idea the true extent of the system, as no one would if they never have been caught up in it. Until you go through it, you live in a blissful state of ignorance, and just believe what they teach you about the UCMJ.

I have never doubted the integrity of Shelbie, nor the "other" Provider she speaks of, but I've never stalked, nor caused them any harm or undue concern. This certainly came out of left field, and my posting that she informed me that she had found "the one", when in fact that's what she told me, and never, ever alluded that she didn't want to continue seeing me, was in no way malicious on my part. I only wish the best for her, and will not continue to defend myself in words, as my actions have always spoken louder.

GM

[QUOTE=Marc70; 1298894]GM,

This isn't good at all. It sure sounds like Shelbie has done her research and has got you by the short and curlys or maybe even something more substantial.

I've been with Shelbie five times and they were memorable except once when she had major and I mean very major personal issue that had just arisen like 15 minutes prior to my arrival. She tried to overcome the situation (due to my long drive) but the dream was not what it should have been. When she explained on the phone about the problem I only wish she would have told me so we could have mutually agreed to cancel. Would I have been mad no disappointed yes? We worked through this and came to mutually agreeable dream. I screwed up and didn't write a review.

I certainly hope GM had a good time in prison and got to receive what he dealt. I've been told by people that know the worst thing you can be in prison for the is abuse of a child. Maybe there is some good about the scum that are in there.

The point I'm making is Shelbie is top drawer with me and many others. She has been nothing but truthful and of high moral value with me and I cannot doubt her now in fact we have much in common and we both really just shooting the shit.

This sounds very serious to me and even dangerous no very dangerous. I think GM needs to go to anger management and where ever you go for sexual dysfunction issues or just commit suicide.

Shelbie and others I strongly recommend a restraining order. May not really do any good except give you something to fall back on if TSHTF.

You've got to back your friends and I back Shelbie to the hilt and the other ladies that she has mentioned (I don't know who they are but if they are good with Shelbie they are good with me) but are too scared to come forward.

This is way more serious than the little tiffs we have on here from time to time.

Marc[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Citywalk;1298913]Having spent 20 years in the military and being part of 2 seperate court martials panels, the garbage GM is spouting off about not having due process in his court martial is pure bunk. He had access to both military and civilian lawyers and all the due process availbale to any accused, just like in a civilan court. I find everything he said above totally suspect. I've never met Shelbie but just reading GM's blog above I'll have to lean toward believing Shelbie's version of this story.[/QUOTE]

I had a feeling what shelbie was saying was true before I even read her post. You seem like the stalker possessive type. I got that vibe from your last few post the way you talk about the girls.

This just goes to show you can't trust anyone on this board.

[QUOTE=GenevaMan; 1298791]Shelbie,

I am too much of a Gentleman, and have always been that way with you and to the other Providers, to get into an open argument. Yes, I was convicted in a Military Courts-Martial of something I never did, and if anyone has had the terrible experience of going through the military justice system, then they can vouch that no military service member is protected by the US Constitution when being charged by the US Military Justice System (USMC). In fact, in 1995, the first ever challenge to the USMC was actually accepted by the US Supreme Court and it was unanimously rejected by all nine (9) justices by stating that the military service members are not accorded the same protections under the US Constitution as those of the Civilian population, and that the military may act as it sees fit in order to keep order and discipline.

As an officer inmate incarcerated at that time, I was one of the authors of that petition to the US Supreme Court, as we challenged that the entire USMC was, in fact, unconstitutional. Never before had any challenge to the USMC ever made it to the US Supreme Court, and in our petition we demonstrated that the USMC's origins were based on the Nazi's Gestapo, yes that's right, the Gestapo's tactics of bringing the Jews to trial. Here's another little fact that you probably didn't know. When a service member is charged under the USMC, any and all witnesses for the defense must be approved by the Prosecution. You heard that right. The Prosecution has all the power to determine whether or not you even have a defense. Sound like a Gestapo tactic? As an officer with over 15 years, I was totally shocked and appalled how I was summarily railroad through the system without even one witness, and I was facing the death penalty! Not even a member of my family was allowed to attend my trial, which was, ironically, held in Germany.

Here's another fact you didn't know. Just months prior to our Supreme Court ruling against our petition, the Canadian government made a ruling on it's military justice system. By sheer coincidence, and having nothing to do from us (a panel of 15 highly-ranked military officer inmates that formed an adhoc justice panel) , it seemed that Canada's own military justice system was also being challenged. The Canadian military justice system is an exact duplication of our own USMC, but this time, the Canadian government ruled that their military justice system was unconstitutional in its core. We had hoped that this ruling, just months prior to our own petition, would have bolstered our case, but in the end, our Supreme Court washed its hands of the men and women who serve our armed forces, and allowed the military to continue its barbaric judicial system.

Now, as far as, my being innocent of the charges, let me address something to the members of this great forum. Until the advent of DNA testing that has freed nearly a 100 suspected rapists and murderers after they have served over 20 years, everyone had positively believed their guilt. Those are truly the lucky ones, because they hadn't been sent to death row before DNA testing had been invented and accepted by the courts (just recently in the early 2000's) , and that there even was DNA taken and kept after all those years. In my case, as well as, hundreds of others, there never was any DNA to take, as it was only a "he said, she said" accustion. Remember, I was denied any and all witnesses.

So, how did this "predator" get a high-security job? It took over a year of background checking interviewing personnel to confirm my account of what happened to me in the USMC, and my taking multiple polygraphs with the knowledge that if I fail even one, I would never get a chance at a decent job. The military justice system will never, ever admit it has done anything wrong, but I was able to obtain a clearance and acknowledgment that I did, indeed, go through a system that is, by its very nature, an abomination of justice. I don't ever see the UCMJ being changed, as the powers-that-be don't want to open that can of worms, but your personal attack on me is unwarranted.

In all the times you and I spent together, you always expressed what a Gentleman I was, and how you truly enjoyed our times together. I won't ever go into details, as you had asked me to never reveal those, but for you to come out and attack me in this public forum, is a betray of trust, but alas, I won't betray the trust you asked of me, and will keep our times together safe, as you had requested. And, of course, instead of acknowledging that you did truly enjoy our times together, you'll say otherwise. I'm truly sorry to see that you have chosen to use such a horrible betrayal of trust.

GM[/QUOTE]

Maybe the idea of not providing details on providers needs to be rethought, I think I've played the game pretty well by not posting anything on anyone I've seen for the past 3 or 4 yrs. It maybe starting to backfire when I'm finding out more about the Hobbyist then I could have ever possibly wanted or imagined, from who you are to what you do and done outside of the hobby, what you drink, what you live in etc, etc ad nauseam.

Kind of ironic, is't it

[QUOTE=Boss Hogg; 1298945]This has got to be the most dysfunctional board on this entire forum. What we need is Irvingtonp to come and bring sanity to the room.

I can hear him now."Stop falling in love with these hoes".[/QUOTE]This forum is great. Thats why I'm a member and looking forward to participating. Any player giving a provider enough info to look up his past has a dim bulb. If you're a molester I hope leo gets you. Guys, stop watching pretty woman and get back to reality. Can't get back into reality then get married. That will bring you back to reality real quick! BE GUYS AGAIN. Drama queens go play outside.

[QUOTE=Boss Hogg; 1298945]This has got to be the most dysfunctional board on this entire forum. What we need is Irvingtonp to come and bring sanity to the room.

I can hear him now."Stop falling in love with these hoes".[/QUOTE]LOL! So true.

Know I've been away from this board for 5-6 years but aren't there any other women in O'Town? Are we mongers or mice?

Recently had the occasion to visit a Favorite Friend, Lauren of Orlando. Lauren is that very attractive, curvy, intelligent. 30-something blonde that so many men crave, but yet seems so hard to find; especially on BackPage, LOL. Lauren has the look of the sexy female executive in the corner office-educated, professional with a hint of smoldering sex appeal. (I love it when she is wearing her glasses.)

A visit with Lauren includes an unrushed drink and great conversation, followed by a soft, slow, passionate full GFE experience, with a hot, curvy, mature, blue-eyed blonde. Laid back, mellow personality. In-call is not only safe, but down right scenic. Even her dog has a sweet, mellow disposition. A date with Lauren is always a special treat. Of course, Lauren of Orlando is well known to veterans of this board, but I read often of the trials, tribulations and misadventures of some of the newer members as they try to navigate the BP minefield. Exalted "Trusted Senior Member" to 1 post newbie; the advice is the same,"you can't go wrong with a date with Lauren of Orlando!

Montana

About 6 months ago Celtic Shelby contacted a close provider friend of mine with a story and a warning about a poster on this board who had trashed a girl in Brevard County on the board, accusing the girl of having a pimp and assaulting him in their encounter. Shelbie contacted the Brevard girl and the girl was a nervous scared to death young lady who could not stop crying after Shelby identified that he was in fact a guy she had seen and who had in fact pulled the same act on her. The act: Wanting to perform sex acts with no protection with both anal and vaginal penetration and crying and cajoling until he either got his way and if he didn't get his way he threatened to give them bad reviews on this and other boards, in addition he wanted to take pictures and Video the encounter.

Shelby called me because my friend gave her my number, we had a long talk. Several other mongers contacted me and we all talked via PM, Shelby had several ideas for her own protection from this animal and has since implimented them and is in my opinion safe. There was talk about "setting this guy up and teaching him a lesson he would never forget-ever" my position was that as board members none of us is in a position to become vigilanties and risk our lives and freedom in a bad situation. He would be easy to "get" because he preys on new girls and most of the regular providers have been warned about him, but there is always a new group coming along.

We decided that exposing him on the board would do no good because he would just change his alias and carry on. But Shelby apparently has had enough and decided to "OUT" him. Bravo Celtic Shelby!

Every time I see him post a review about a women he has seen I get sick to my stomach because another girl has been exposed to his abuse and intimidation, some might wilfully do as he wants that is their choice but the threats and physical intimidation roils me. Others may think differently but if nothing else some of you when your adding up all the money these girls make think of this story and try to understand why some girls are edgy at times.

Thankfully this is not a common story most mongers treat women with respect.

If someone said this about me I doubt I would bragg about being a Marine Corp officer who got railroaded after 15 yrs as a "jar head" it's been my experience that it goes the other way unless they cannot "cover up for their boy" because the evidense is far to damning, most guys in the service know exactly what I'm talking about.

And Geneva did not address the Brevard County sexual offenders list, perhaps He was to busy getting the "Citizen of the year award from the Governor" to bother addressing this "small' fact.

This was a tough deal for all of us who knew to suppress but you just can't call the cops with a situation like this and I'm so glad Shelby exposed it, maybe some girl will read about this and be wary when some bullshitter with a camera and a Video cam enters her room and crys and cajoles and threatend her I hope she has the guts to kick him in the balls-VS

All I can post is the info that I have received from Shelbie.

I was one of those members on here that received PM's from Shelbie concerning GM. She was genuinely petrified of this man. We kept it quiet and only among the most trusted members, hoping things would get better. Obviously, they did not.

That's the only thing I will say on the subject.

I am not going to call out anyone specific but cut all this crap out.

First this is for review of chicks not dudes.

Secondly I don't want to see any providers posting in hear. Get the hell out. The only reason you should be here is if your looking to improve your business and to learn from others mistakes.

Thirdly, we are suppost to be together against the providers; protecting each other from fraud. Quit defending these broads. Usaully they are the ones on some bull, not the guys. You guys attacking members are only doing it for favors with chicks viewing boards. They don't give a shitz about you. They just want the money. I don't care about them either. I just want you to look good and make sure I enjoy myself. I don't want to walk away angry that I spent money with you. I am professional and I expect the same.

I think most agree that all we want to see is requests about providers, tell your expierence, and give a recommendations. All the other crap needs to go. Quit ruining the forum.

[QUOTE=TheeeGentleman;1299073]This forum is great. Thats why I'm a member and looking forward to participating. Any player giving a provider enough info to look up his past has a dim bulb. If you're a molester I hope leo gets you. Guys, stop watching pretty woman and get back to reality. Can't get back into reality then get married. That will bring you back to reality real quick! BE GUYS AGAIN. Drama queens go play outside.[/QUOTE]Best response yet to this situation, gman you are wrong about the level of intelligence in military prisons as the majority of inmates are enlisted guys and suffice to say a good portion of those guys lack any sort of common sense hence why their ass is in jail to begin with. Who knows what the truth is as there are always two sides to every story and both sides believe in "their" truth. While it may seem nice to form a personal relationship with a provider in the realm of humanity everyone quickly forgets what humanity is based on."the core need of survival" a monger or a provider who gets to close to their business clients is only asking for trouble at some point down the road, and yes there are exceptions to this rule but I for one am not willing to make that gamble. It is what it is. A hobby that we all know the dangers of being involved with. Good luck to all of you involved.

This isn't the first, or even second time his name has come up with regard to shady dealings and attempts to extort or otherwise coerce bareback services against someone's will. Not in this forum community or the Brevard one.

Don't let this ass clown scare you. He counts on you not going to the police out of fear and natural aversion.

News flash. What he is doing is actually multiple [b]felonies[/b], which a State ADA will take over any misdemeanor charge they could hope to jam any of you ladies up with should you report this asshole. It is still the States responsibility to protect you as citizens, whether they approve of your occupation or not.

[QUOTE=MMarona; 1298426]Hey guys. Saw this on BP tonight. Was curious if anybody has seen her. Looks great. Not sure.

[url]http://orlando.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/grl-nxt-doot-chrm-and-beauty-book-online-no-worries-no-games-247-apts-booked-low-specials-24/4766200[/url]

I am asking because I am not in orlando for long. Don't have time / money to toftt or "try". Would love some good direction for greek provider or sure thing massage.[/QUOTE]Last I knew she wasn't into trips to the eastern Med. There are other reliability and behavioral issues as well. If she could straighten her shit out maybe, but as it stands you'd be better off investing your time with someone else.

Just my humble and utterly worthless opinion.

GM, All Shelbie stands to gain from her post outing you is to get you to leave her alone. She benefits in no other way. Why would she post if not true from her perspective? She is a kind, educated and articulate lady and the best choice for you now is to honor her requests & leave her alone. The same goes for any other provider who is not wanting you as a client as they choose to not be videotaped, have pictures taken or succumb to your demands.

I am also an ex senior military officer with experience in the military legal proceedings and agree with Vino, the Military legal system works as well or better than the civilian court system.

You can deny and blame the system all you want, bottom line is, the facts speak loud and clear. Your past actions are despicable and the best thing for you to do is to crawl back into the hole from whence you came.

Bottom Line: drop it, move on, leave these providers alone who do not want to see you or communicate with you in any manner. You obviously pride yourself in your numerous conquests evidenced by your prolific posting, go back to those who welcome you. If they will now.

[QUOTE=Jason2009;1298617]What I know is she has a "driver", that killed the deal for me and I did not try her out.[/QUOTE]Got to her place after an hours travel and no call back, do not waste your time.

Now that the Big Guns of the board, Michael Caffey and Very Slowly, have weighed in, we have have background, perspective and, thus, clarity.

There is not much I can add that these two Titans haven't covered-I mean they covered everything from informed, unequivocal support of Shelbie to potential Felony charges to sober suggestions of contacting LE to serious discussions of vigilante justice-as well detailed background info into this "debate".

Here's what I CAN add: I know Shelbie. She is as "straight up" an individual as I know. To be more specific; if she tells an individual, . (if you come around here uninvited),"I assure you that it will not end well.", you can be sure that that is the "straight up","drop dead"-pun intended-TRUTH.

Montana

Sexy BBW Alicia is advertising on the BackPage section under ESCORTS and BODY RUBS. I worked in Tampa and saw her about 3 years ago. She was very sweet and inocent back then. She still looks and sounds it today. I had to phone verify to see if it was her. She says she is in a higher end hotel near sandlake and I-drive. I think I may have to see her later this week. She says she is here only till Saturday. I will report back after my visit. If any one here checks if out before me let us know!

[url]http://orlando.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/super-thicksuper-bustysuper-sweet-a-great-time-w-a-sexy-bbw-27/5146927[/url]

I'm going to have to start working the saying "ass clown" into my vocabulary more often. I haven't heard that one in awhile.

[QUOTE=Michael Caffey; 1299272]This isn't the first, or even second time his name has come up with regard to shady dealings and attempts to extort or otherwise coerce bareback services against someone's will. Not in this forum community or the Brevard one.

Don't let this ass clown scare you. He counts on you not going to the police out of fear and natural aversion.

News flash. What he is doing is actually multiple [b]felonies[/b], which a State ADA will take over any misdemeanor charge they could hope to jam any of you ladies up with should you report this asshole. It is still the States responsibility to protect you as citizens, whether they approve of your occupation or not.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Big Tommy; 1299370]Sexy BBW Alicia is advertising on the BackPage section under ESCORTS and BODY RUBS. I worked in Tampa and saw her about 3 years ago. She was very sweet and inocent back then. She still looks and sounds it today. I had to phone verify to see if it was her. She says she is in a higher end hotel near sandlake and I-drive. I think I may have to see her later this week. She says she is here only till Saturday. I will report back after my visit. If any one here checks if out before me let us know!

[url]http://orlando.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/super-thicksuper-bustysuper-sweet-a-great-time-w-a-sexy-bbw-27/5146927[/url][/QUOTE]Not sure what service you are planning, but on the Tampa forum it's been said many times that she has herpes. It was considered "common knowledge" there long before I joined the forum. You can verify the commentary by searching over there. I'm just posting this as a heads up, do what you want with the info.

Say Big Tommy, since you're from Tampa can you address the luggage or gift issues that follow both these chicks throughout the boards in your area. I don't want to spread rumors if it isn't true, but my fellow O-town friends need to be reminded every now and then of the buyer beware clause.

[QUOTE=Montana77; 1299354]Now that the Big Guns of the board, Michael Caffey and Very Slowly, have weighed in, we have have background, perspective and, thus, clarity.

There is not much I can add that these two Titans haven't covered-I mean they covered everything from informed, unequivocal support of Shelbie to potential Felony charges to sober suggestions of contacting LE to serious discussions of vigilante justice-as well detailed background info into this "debate".

Here's what I CAN add: I know Shelbie. She is as "straight up" an individual as I know. To be more specific; if she tells an individual, . (if you come around here uninvited),"I assure you that it will not end well.", you can be sure that that is the "straight up","drop dead"-pun intended-TRUTH.

Montana[/QUOTE]Not everyone considers VS a big gun, but more like a big bullsh*tter. I am sure MC would not want his name lumped in with VS, whom I suspect he finds to be a huge ass clown.

Thought I would chime in to confirm what Celtic Shelbie has said about GenevaMan. Shelbie contacted me after I blasted GM in my post back in July (post #73 in Ripoff Reports) thanking me for calling him out publicly. She told me that she was being harassed and stalked by GM and she was in fact very afraid of what he might do and to please not mention her situation publicly. Interestingly, I have since met three other providers (other than Ivey and Shelbie) that have had identical run-ins (and one currently) with GM. Always the same MO with the threatening, stalking and coercing. I can only imagine how many other providers are in hiding from this psycho.

Like VS, I get sick to my stomach every time I see him post about a provider knowing what he is doing. He is dangerous to any provider out there that he takes a liking to and he is bad news for this board. I can't help but wonder how many good providers that are hiding from him and they sure as hell are not going to come on this board and advertise with him around. I now make it a point to mention him to any good providers I meet to watch out for him and how he operates. And, I don't post about any new providers worth posting about if they don't have the experience to look out for someone like him.

Shelbie. Good for you for standing up to him and great Job finding that info! You found a much better way to approach it than I had in mind. I look forward to getting that info to share with the other providers I mentioned.

P8

[QUOTE=Big Tommy; 1299370]Sexy BBW Alicia is advertising on the BackPage section under ESCORTS and BODY RUBS. I worked in Tampa and saw her about 3 years ago. She was very sweet and inocent back then. She still looks and sounds it today. I had to phone verify to see if it was her. She says she is in a higher end hotel near sandlake and I-drive. I think I may have to see her later this week. She says she is here only till Saturday. I will report back after my visit. If any one here checks if out before me let us know!

[url]http://orlando.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/super-thicksuper-bustysuper-sweet-a-great-time-w-a-sexy-bbw-27/5146927[/url][/QUOTE]Was looking at these two last week but saw the posts about them in Tampa and said to myself, not something I want to bring home. I'll pass. Too bad

[QUOTE=Miahdog; 1299229]I am not going to call out anyone specific but cut all this crap out.

First this is for review of chicks not dudes.

Secondly I don't want to see any providers posting in hear. Get the hell out. The only reason you should be here is if your looking to improve your business and to learn from others mistakes.

Thirdly, we are suppost to be together against the providers; protecting each other from fraud. Quit defending these broads. Usaully they are the ones on some bull, not the guys. You guys attacking members are only doing it for favors with chicks viewing boards. They don't give a shitz about you. They just want the money. I don't care about them either. I just want you to look good and make sure I enjoy myself. I don't want to walk away angry that I spent money with you. I am professional and I expect the same.

I think most agree that all we want to see is requests about providers, tell your expierence, and give a recommendations. All the other crap needs to go. Quit ruining the forum.[/QUOTE]I'd love to read her rebuttal to this post.

[QUOTE=Miahdog;1299229]I am not going to call out anyone specific but cut all this crap out.[/quote]While I understand your logic. I don't completely agree. This is a community, a fucked up one, but a small community none the less. I may be practicing P4P as a monger but I choose to distribute my funds to women who are out to please by their own free will and who practice their profession as safely as possible.

Having a monger force himself onto a woman that I may possibly be seeking services from at some point in the future negatively affects me should she contract something from that individual. And free will is without coercion or blackmail, it's similar to rape in my opinion and is not something I would wish upon any of these women. I can easily see this board being used to gain perks and extras from providers which is also a game changer. I simply need to know if she is safe, free of management, and provides good service. I'm fine with guys who harm women or disrupt their safety to be blasted on here, they ruin the game as much as bad providers do.

I respect what you have to say in this section. It hurts me to know that you ask that on guys post here and not the chicks. I think we chicks have a right to post comments in this section regarding what others have said about us. Rather it be positive or negative. As far as the other stuff, there is a separate section for all of that and it should be in the general topics. Please be careful as to what you say on this board.

[QUOTE=Miahdog; 1299229]I am not going to call out anyone specific but cut all this crap out.

First this is for review of chicks not dudes.

Secondly I don't want to see any providers posting in hear. Get the hell out. The only reason you should be here is if your looking to improve your business and to learn from others mistakes.

Thirdly, we are suppost to be together against the providers; protecting each other from fraud. Quit defending these broads. Usaully they are the ones on some bull, not the guys. You guys attacking members are only doing it for favors with chicks viewing boards. They don't give a shitz about you. They just want the money. I don't care about them either. I just want you to look good and make sure I enjoy myself. I don't want to walk away angry that I spent money with you. I am professional and I expect the same.

I think most agree that all we want to see is requests about providers, tell your expierence, and give a recommendations. All the other crap needs to go. Quit ruining the forum.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Plzd269;1299250]Best response yet to this situation, gman you are wrong about the level of intelligence in military prisons as the majority of inmates are enlisted guys and suffice to say a good portion of those guys lack any sort of common sense hence why their ass is in jail to begin with. Who knows what the truth is as there are always two sides to every story and both sides believe in "their" truth. While it may seem nice to form a personal relationship with a provider in the realm of humanity everyone quickly forgets what humanity is based on."the core need of survival" a monger or a provider who gets to close to their business clients is only asking for trouble at some point down the road, and yes there are exceptions to this rule but I for one am not willing to make that gamble. It is what it is. A hobby that we all know the dangers of being involved with. Good luck to all of you involved.[/QUOTE]I love that phrase;"the core need of survival". That reduces our experience of live down to its most elemental and basic imperitive. If you think about it all living things; well maybe only animals, share this ultimate imperitive. And of course we all are just animals.

[QUOTE=Miahdog; 1299229]I am not going to call out anyone specific but cut all this crap out.

First this is for review of chicks not dudes.

Secondly I don't want to see any providers posting in hear. Get the hell out. The only reason you should be here is if your looking to improve your business and to learn from others mistakes.

Thirdly, we are suppost to be together against the providers; protecting each other from fraud. Quit defending these broads. Usaully they are the ones on some bull, not the guys. You guys attacking members are only doing it for favors with chicks viewing boards. They don't give a shitz about you. They just want the money. I don't care about them either. I just want you to look good and make sure I enjoy myself. I don't want to walk away angry that I spent money with you. I am professional and I expect the same.

I think most agree that all we want to see is requests about providers, tell your expierence, and give a recommendations. All the other crap needs to go. Quit ruining the forum.[/QUOTE]I would disagree with this dude. I don't have any issue hearing from the girls. This is 2011 Afterall.

[QUOTE=Big Tommy; 1299370]Sexy BBW Alicia is advertising on the BackPage section under ESCORTS and BODY RUBS. I worked in Tampa and saw her about 3 years ago. She was very sweet and inocent back then. She still looks and sounds it today. I had to phone verify to see if it was her. She says she is in a higher end hotel near sandlake and I-drive. I think I may have to see her later this week. She says she is here only till Saturday. I will report back after my visit. If any one here checks if out before me let us know!

[url]http://orlando.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/super-thicksuper-bustysuper-sweet-a-great-time-w-a-sexy-bbw-27/5146927[/url][/QUOTE]Not my type anyway.

I just want to say that after doing some serious homework and just following some of the posts on here, I can honestly say that this a hobbie that needs to be taken very seriously. I always knew that it was a risky hobby, but when you have members in this forum that you're supposed to trust go rogue, that just changes everything, it ups the ante for us all, especially the girls. I've noticed a few conflicting reports on here as well as mongers calling other mongers out for "pimpin" their girls here. Now this thing with GM acting all criminal. WTF? Who can you trust? Who's report is the real deal? Are their any LEO's in here? (I'm sure there is) Just craziness!

With that being said, all you new-be's, do your homework! No matter how favorable the reports are about a certain girl. Don't just go by what one person says. DO YOUR HOMEWORK. ALWAYS!

To all the girls, my heart goes out to you. BE SAFE!

Now, I want to post a review about an ad I just saw tonight, its a fake, at least the photos are:

[url]http://orlando.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/super-sexy-exotic-latina-busty-dds-what-more-can-you-ask-for-20/5335544[/url]

I also notice when a BS ad is posted, they like to use spelled out numbers mixed with actual numbers to write out thier ph numbers, makes it harder to google. These fraudsters are starting to think all of a sudden. LOL!

The attachment below is of a girl that lives in the middle east somewhere, I believe Israel. I've seen her photos posted in so many different websites a long time ago so she could actualy be anywhere. I've also seen it posted on BP in the past.

So there it is. Be cool people! Be safe!

OS