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[QUOTE=LokiPk;5089107]I'm.
Not arguing or trying to be a tit, just clarifying the whole 'got to give to get' melodrama.
It's not that senior members need anyone to 'give info before getting, it is more of a 'take the time to read the forum' before asking basic questions.
There is literally thousands of posts with info that answers the simple questions that new members tend to ask. But many newbs simple log in and say 'who can I find to blow me?
So A2 will always re-iterate, once he is irate, that there is no quid pro quo for info here. That is NOT a rule. You DO NOT NEED TO GIVE TO GET. However, the simple fact is that few, if any, members are going to give the digits and address of their favorite 'go to girl ' to someone with an unproven track record. Who will then go on to fuck it up for everyone. Especially in these dark times.
I am certainly more guilty then most when it comes to that. I've guarded my secrets well for many years. However, I have also shared hundreds of post with the roadmap to the girls I've seen. I've freely shared that info in these forums and others for all to follow. I don't, however, reveal details via PM to guys I don't know- and I think therein lies the rub or the misconception of 'give to get'.
Guys with two posts or 15-20 but no reviews constantly send Pms to seasoned reviewers asking details that many would not share with more senior members. Look how fast an inbox fills up when a post for a favorite UTR goes up saying 'only shared with senior members", It really is a bit crazy.
So for what it's worth, WELCOME TO THE PARTY PAL!! Ask all you like but don't be disappointed or discouraged if you get the boilerplate reply of 'read the fuckin forums' (rtff) or got to give to get. Just don't give up. Spend a little time reading a few pages back and I'm sure you will find a good lead or two.
Peace.
PK.[/QUOTE]Would add that I am reluctant to give any substantive and specific info on particular girls to newbies just looking for info and who I don't "know". Not that difficult to either Toftt or research a bit thru recent reviews. Generally have little or no problem with general questions or asking to be steered or opining about aspects of local scene.
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[QUOTE=LokiPk;5089107]I'm.
Not arguing or trying to be a tit, just clarifying the whole 'got to give to get' melodrama.
PK.[/QUOTE]I meant to explain that "give to get" was the unwritten rule, not something that is enforced by A2, which is fine. I have been a member for several months, but was shy to post a comment for some reason. I don't post many reviews because I have a regular that I go to. Hopefully that will change and I can give more information. Thank you.
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[QUOTE=LokiPk;5089107]I'm.
Not arguing or trying to be a tit, just clarifying the whole 'got to give to get' melodrama.[/QUOTE]Let me add a little too it in a way even the short bus people will understand.
Say you move into a new neighborhood and you're the kind of guy who likes to have a drink or two in a corner bar a couple times a week. You move in, you find Stan's or Ernie's or Joe's or whatever the fuck it's called and you pop in, hope you don't take Norm's stool when you sit down and order a beer. While you're getting the lay of the land you notice a few guys stepping out back for 5 minutes and when they come back in their eyes are a little bloodshot and they smell like burning rope. You know what's going on, they are consuming consumables. Now say you're a guy who likes consuming consumables and you wouldn't mind going along. There's two ways you can do this.
1. You can be an idiot and walk up to them and ask in a loud voice "hey, are you guys smoking weed out there? Can I come along next time?" We all know how this ends.
Or.
2. You keep yer trap shut, mind your business, get the lay of the land, have a few how do conversations with a few of the guys while you're sipping a beer or in Loki's case some fucking girlie drink with an umbrella in it. Then maybe after a week or two if you seem to get along with one or two of the consumable consumers, you invite THEM out back to consume some of your consumables. You have been there a few weeks they know you're not an asshole, and cops don't ask them to consume consumables, so they go, they judge you buy the quality of your consumables and after doing this one or two times then you're part of the group of guys who consume consumables at what is now your corner bar.
It's all about becoming known, it's not about kissing ass. It's not a requirement and asswipes that give people a hard time by being dicks because a new guy asks a question always piss me off but the fact is they aren't goin got trust you until you earn the trust and that's just how life works.
A2.
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[QUOTE=Admin2;5090015]Let me add a little too it in a way even the short bus people will understand.
[red] or in Loki's case some fucking girlie drink with an umbrella in it. [/red]
It's all about becoming known, it's not about kissing ass. It's not a requirement and asswipes that give people a hard time by being dicks because a new guy asks a question always piss me off but the fact is they aren't goin got trust you until you earn the trust and that's just how life works.
A2.[/QUOTE]You know it baby!! ; ) .
Peace
PK
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Cheers!
[QUOTE=LokiPk;5090342]You know it baby!! ; ) .
Peace
PK[/QUOTE]Your still ok in my book, girlie drinks or not! Cheers! .
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[QUOTE=PrinceIsaiah00;5218056][URL]https://www.eccie.net/showthread.php?t=2765540[/URL]
There is a thread on the other site about the utr Jada in Schenectady. Do not be deceived. She is not a sweetheart. She stole from me and threatened me and caused problems in my personal life. She will ask you for money up front and then ghost you. I also have several other people who have had problems with her. One time, went to do outcall at her place and gave donation, she said she had to run inside to give the donation to her kids and would be back out for outcall, she never came back out. After 10 minutes an older black guy came out and threatened to call police if did not leave. Stay away.[/QUOTE]Your first post and you're trashing a provider? No one's going to believe you.
You 'have several people who have had problems with her'? Where did you find these 'several people'? This is an anonymous hobby, and almost all of us are doing this alone. Where did you meet these 'several people' and just happen to have a conversation with them about a hooker in Schenectady? I can count on zero fingers the number of explicit conversations I've had with dudes about specific hookers I've met over my years of mongering. If you are that experienced of a monger that you have your own network, then you wouldn't have made all the mistakes you made.
I will give you credit or not claiming she has an STD. That's the usual line a spurned lover uses on here. Other than that, go post some real reviews. But read these pages all the way back for a couple of years and learn what you were doing wrong before you go visit someone for you 'outcall'. Outcall, really? Dude. You're not ready for this game.
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[QUOTE=MalMonger;5218454]Your first post and you're trashing a provider? No one's going to believe you.
You 'have several people who have had problems with her'? Where did you find these 'several people'? This is an anonymous hobby, and almost all of us are doing this alone. Where did you meet these 'several people' and just happen to have a conversation with them about a hooker in Schenectady? I can count on zero fingers the number of explicit conversations I've had with dudes about specific hookers I've met over my years of mongering. If you are that experienced of a monger that you have your own network, then you wouldn't have made all the mistakes you made.
I will give you credit or not claiming she has an STD. That's the usual line a spurned lover uses on here. Other than that, go post some real reviews. But read these pages all the way back for a couple of years and learn what you were doing wrong before you go visit someone for you 'outcall'. Outcall, really? Dude. You're not ready for this game.[/QUOTE]Don't you remember what she did to bugleboy.
Threatened to Smash his windows.
He hasn't let that go and will continue to write bad reviews on her until she is out of the game.
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New name. Same old story
[QUOTE=MalMonger;5218454]Your first post and you're trashing a provider? No one's going to believe you.
You 'have several people who have had problems with her'? Where did you find these 'several people'? This is an anonymous hobby, and almost all of us are doing this alone. Where did you meet these 'several people' and just happen to have a conversation with them about a hooker in Schenectady? I can count on zero fingers the number of explicit conversations I've had with dudes about specific hookers I've met over my years of mongering. If you are that experienced of a monger that you have your own network, then you wouldn't have made all the mistakes you made.
I will give you credit or not claiming she has an STD. That's the usual line a spurned lover uses on here. Other than that, go post some real reviews. But read these pages all the way back for a couple of years and learn what you were doing wrong before you go visit someone for you 'outcall'. Outcall, really? Dude. You're not ready for this game.[/QUOTE]Mal. Don't you recognize Bugleboy, Quagmire, or who knows what other names?
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Not my Experience!
[QUOTE=PrinceIsaiah00;5218056][URL]https://www.eccie.net/showthread.php?t=2765540[/URL]
There is a thread on the other site about the utr Jada in Schenectady. Do not be deceived. She is not a sweetheart. She stole from me and threatened me and caused problems in my personal life. She will ask you for money up front and then ghost you. I also have several other people who have had problems with her. One time, went to do outcall at her place and gave donation, she said she had to run inside to give the donation to her kids and would be back out for outcall, she never came back out. After 10 minutes an older black guy came out and threatened to call police if did not leave. Stay away.[/QUOTE]I've been seeing this provider off and on for 3 years and have NEVER had an issue with her except for her lack of availability due to RW life. The only good thing I can say about your post is that maybe she'll be easier for me to schedule with if anyone believes you (which I doubt will happen)!
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Heartbroken
[QUOTE=Vito9262;5218535]I've been seeing this provider off and on for 3 years and have NEVER had an issue with her except for her lack of availability due to RW life. The only good thing I can say about your post is that maybe she'll be easier for me to schedule with if anyone believes you (which I doubt will happen)![/QUOTE]As you may know this "member" has had about 10 profile names on both sites bashing providers that resist his broken heart. You got to stop falling for these ladies and trashing them. I've seen her twice in 2 weeks and had a great time. Some guys just can't let go of reality and move on. Both times I saw her I had to remind her to take her donation off the counter, never watched the clock and just had a good old time.
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[QUOTE=Vito9262;5218535]I've been seeing this provider off and on for 3 years and have NEVER had an issue with her except for her lack of availability due to RW life. The only good thing I can say about your post is that maybe she'll be easier for me to schedule with if anyone believes you (which I doubt will happen)![/QUOTE]Definitely a broken hearted spurned lover. Bugle Boy is back?
I've Never had a problem with this Sweetheart!
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[QUOTE=OldGuy0228;5218586]Definitely a broken hearted spurned lover. Bugle Boy is back?
I've Never had a problem with this Sweetheart![/QUOTE]She is not a sweetheart.
She threatened to smash my windows and stole $352 from me and even had her man call me and threaten my life. This isn't about dating or broken hearts. This provider traumatized me with her threats and I was going to have her arrested if she threatened me one more time. No kidding here.
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[QUOTE=PrinceIsaiah00;5218513]Don't you remember what she did to bugleboy.
[red]Threatened to Smash his windows.[/red]
He hasn't let that go and will continue to write bad reviews on her until she is out of the game.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=PrinceIsaiah00;5218639]She is not a sweetheart.
[red]She threatened to smash my windows[/red] and stole $352 from me and even had her man call me and threaten my life. This isn't about dating or broken hearts. This provider traumatized me with her threats and I was going to have her arrested if she threatened me one more time. No kidding here.[/QUOTE]You really should try to make it harder to flush out the 'new identity" when you come back as a 'New" member. Not being a dick but you'd never make it as a masked superhero LOL! :)
Holy handjobs Batman!!
Peace.
PK.
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Catfishing
Its amazing how many fake ads there are on STG. Its easy to set up a fake ad and catfish anyone. My recommendations are to look out for stuff like cheap donation rates or asking to send title heading to email address, those are obvious giveaways,. But some are harder. Also you got the known rip-off artists who will rob you up front.
All of this reminds me of how I catfished this guy last year.
I went on a similar site to STG and made a fake account posing as a young attractive woman. Some guy about 85 miles away in Hyde Park (near Poughkeepsie) responded and wanted to meet me. I gave him my neighbors address next door (a black guy who lives two doors from me). I live in an apartment building with 8 units.
The guy drove all the way up here from Hyde Park. I remember texting him at work planning our date, then rushing home from work and anxiously awaiting 7 pm (time of date). I shut off my lights and watched out of the window from behind the curtain as he pulled in the parking lot. I then watched from the peephole as he came in my building, walked up the stairs and knocked on my neighbor's door. No answer then the guy left. Then I messaged the guy telling him ha ha he got pranked.
So this guy drove all the way up here, 170 miles round trip and 4 hours round trip waiting time and gas for that. The whole time I was laughing from my peephole watching him thinking it's funny.
This really happened and my point to this is, how easy it is to catfish using these sites, so its harder to find legit providers, seeing how I did it.
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Observing
It's obvious to me STG has become a haven for scam artists and thieves, some violent. In addition you have marijuana dealers openly selling, I wouldn't go there, I guarantee you're going to get a bag of oregano or just robbed. The real ones are overpriced or so disgusting I would never engage them. Fortunately I maintain a friendship with two UTR ladies I've known for years. One other won't because of COVID she actually auditioned for suicide girls. Are there any legitimate places to go? Don't ask me for number because they both have reliable clients and are not interested in new ones. Just venting, because obviously you can't talk to friends or relatives about such issues. Be careful out there.