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[QUOTE=MSmithy;5921157]Memories, loved that place years ago. Girls were so good. Damn miss these times. Anyone remember Paris?[/QUOTE]It was pretty much a pig farm from the early 2000's and on.
Like I said, to see Lexie in there that one evening, I was shocked.
[QUOTE=Passenger;5921741]It was pretty much a pig farm from the early 2000's and on.
Like I said, to see Lexie in there that one evening, I was shocked.[/QUOTE]In the mid to late 90's they'd actually get some talent in there on weekends and would pack the place. Saw Dianna (later of henrys south fame) there on any number of occasions. She was rather hot when she was younger.
[QUOTE=MareloboMex;5920219]With COVID the clubs were all closed for many months. The girls couldn't go that long without earnings, so that forced them to make other arrangements which continue to today, and have changed the landscape.
Strippers in general are not good at planning. When they need money, they would show up at the club, open their legs and collected the dollars. It was an almost unlimited source of cash. As long as they didn't have their period and kept themselves clean and fresh, they could make hundreds or even thousands of dollars a night. Admittedly most just made enough to scrape by and pay enough rent to not get evicted while purchasing their drugs. When COVID came they had no club to work at and no longer an unlimited supply of guys to collect money from.
These girls are not typically good at business or anything that demands competence and keeping a schedule. They would not spend the time / effort to set up an * site or join Seeking Arrangement because it was too darn easy and convenient to go to the club, show pussy, and collect hundreds of dollars.
There are some people on * who make six figure incomes but that is the 1% who work at it every day and answer messages and post regular content and treat it like the real job that it is. Most strippers on the low end can get 10 guys paying 5 dollars for $50 dollars a month coming in. To the high end of 100 guys paying $10 for $1000 a month coming in. Let's say the average stripper earns $500 a month from * Well, that is $500 they never had before that they previously would have had to earn at the club. Since $500 a month is not enough to live on, the real money in * comes from doing dates. Let's suppose a girl does one date a week for multiple hours multiple shots and is paid $500 that is $2000 a month plus her $500 only fans subscriber money and $2500 a month and is enough to live on in Michigan. If she does 2 dates a week that grows to $4500 a month. Now she has her period and can't work every week but she is earning between $2500 and $4500 a month. More than enough money to live on.
Similarly on Seeking arrangement it is not quite as explicitly about sex, but that is what it ends up being about at a similar price point. The girls earn about $500 a night for spending time with the guys. I am in touch with an ex-stripper from a southern midwestern state. She says it is great; she joined Seeking Arrangements for one month, with her looks she had 25 guys who wanted to date her. She ended up getting into a sugar baby relationship with 5 of them. After one month on Seeking Arrangements, she told the guys she didn't like Seeking Arrangements and deleted her profile but she would still see them because she likes them and they are not like the other guys she met (kind of confirming her under the radar status for the dudes). She also works as a Door Dash delivery girl so she has a cover story for the rest of her earnings. Each sugar daddy thinks he is the only guys she is doing this with. They pay her a monthly amount and can see her as many times as they want during the month. But she says something about being able to see her whenever they want is that many months, they will only see her 1 to 3 times. She told me about one of her sugar daddies when he said he couldn't see her in December because he had family events so he didn't want to pay the December monthly allowance. She told him that was ok, but that left her no choice but to go back on Seeking Arrangements again because she really needs his money. Sure, enough that guy coughed up the cash because he couldn't bear to have his sugar baby back on Seeking Arrangements which she doesn't like. She said she is pulling in 4 times the amount of money she used to make as a stripper and she doesn't have to share any of it with the club.
The point being is that these girls have worked out alternative revenue streams and those alternative streams aren't going away in the future even if COVID does.
Girls covering their base costs from * and Seeking arrangement can hunt in the clubs for new customers. They can also dance on stage and collect stage tips. They can drink all night and get drunk on guys buying them drinks. They don't have to earn money in the VIP.
They don't really want to go to the VIP. They are willing if the guy wants to pay $500 but they would rather see the guy Outside the club and receive that same $500 they are used to making on * and Seeking Arrangements. They don't have an interest in banging 3 or 4 guys a night in the strip club's small VIP area.
They can only make this work if the girls are really attractive but the majority of these girls are.
It used to be a girls only way to make cash was in the VIP but now there are more girls running around who don't care to go to the VIP and prefer to see one guy OTC to earn the same more money that they would need to see multiple guys in the club VIP.
Hopefully with COVID waning there will be new young girls starting to dance who were too young to have set up * during the pandemic, not interested in doing Seeking Arrangements, and too lazy to sign up for either site because there are plenty of guys in the club and the dynamic will switch to more girls earning money in the VIP. Perhaps just like before COVID the girls who enter the stripper lifestyle will be just as lazy and won't take the opportunity to set up an online internet presence. The only reason the current girls set up an online presence was the pandemic forced them (necessity is the mother of invention). Without a pandemic forcing the newly eligible young girls on line, they are much less likely to join these sites.[/QUOTE]Can someone send me the Readers Digest condensed version of this please.
[QUOTE=Passenger;5919784]Did not know that about Kendra Lust being a former Booby Trap dancer; knew that she was from Detroit and frequently hits Detroit when she feature dances.
The Trap was the breeding ground for some of the best girls back in the day, and one of the earliest joints for extras, out in the semi-open. One of my Top 5 ATFs began her career at the Trap. Lexie the blonde. She bounced to many clubs, and I had some fabulously wet times with her at Penthouse. I remember slumming at Chapeau Vert one night, after losing track of her (before she was at Penthouse). She obviously stood out amongst the hogs of that place. She eventually hung up her g-string and moved onto a good career outside of dancing. Yup, dancers can move on contrary to the beliefs of some of the dolts in here.[/QUOTE]If this is the Lexie who lived in TC, she was an ATF. I think she's the first stripper I achieved BBGCIA with.
[QUOTE=MichCL;5922170]If this is the Lexie who lived in TC, she was an ATF. I think she's the first stripper I achieved BBGCIA with.[/QUOTE]She was a legend. Her body when in her 40's, put most dancers in their 20's at Penthouse, to shame. She loved to fuck.
[QUOTE=MareloboMex;5920219]With COVID the clubs were all closed for many months. The girls couldn't go that long without earnings, so that forced them to make other arrangements which continue to today, and have changed the landscape.
Strippers in general are not good at planning. When they need money, they would show up at the club, open their legs and collected the dollars. It was an almost unlimited source of cash. As long as they didn't have their period and kept themselves clean and fresh, they could make hundreds or even thousands of dollars a night. Admittedly most just made enough to scrape by and pay enough rent to not get evicted while purchasing their drugs. When COVID came they had no club to work at and no longer an unlimited supply of guys to collect money from.
These girls are not typically good at business or anything that demands competence and keeping a schedule. They would not spend the time / effort to set up an * site or join Seeking Arrangement because it was too darn easy and convenient to go to the club, show pussy, and collect hundreds of dollars.
There are some people on * who make six figure incomes but that is the 1% who work at it every day and answer messages and post regular content and treat it like the real job that it is. Most strippers on the low end can get 10 guys paying 5 dollars for $50 dollars a month coming in. To the high end of 100 guys paying $10 for $1000 a month coming in. Let's say the average stripper earns $500 a month from * Well, that is $500 they never had before that they previously would have had to earn at the club. Since $500 a month is not enough to live on, the real money in * comes from doing dates. Let's suppose a girl does one date a week for multiple hours multiple shots and is paid $500 that is $2000 a month plus her $500 only fans subscriber money and $2500 a month and is enough to live on in Michigan. If she does 2 dates a week that grows to $4500 a month. Now she has her period and can't work every week but she is earning between $2500 and $4500 a month. More than enough money to live on.
Similarly on Seeking arrangement it is not quite as explicitly about sex, but that is what it ends up being about at a similar price point. The girls earn about $500 a night for spending time with the guys. I am in touch with an ex-stripper from a southern midwestern state. She says it is great; she joined Seeking Arrangements for one month, with her looks she had 25 guys who wanted to date her. She ended up getting into a sugar baby relationship with 5 of them. After one month on Seeking Arrangements, she told the guys she didn't like Seeking Arrangements and deleted her profile but she would still see them because she likes them and they are not like the other guys she met (kind of confirming her under the radar status for the dudes). She also works as a Door Dash delivery girl so she has a cover story for the rest of her earnings. Each sugar daddy thinks he is the only guys she is doing this with. They pay her a monthly amount and can see her as many times as they want during the month. But she says something about being able to see her whenever they want is that many months, they will only see her 1 to 3 times. She told me about one of her sugar daddies when he said he couldn't see her in December because he had family events so he didn't want to pay the December monthly allowance. She told him that was ok, but that left her no choice but to go back on Seeking Arrangements again because she really needs his money. Sure, enough that guy coughed up the cash because he couldn't bear to have his sugar baby back on Seeking Arrangements which she doesn't like. She said she is pulling in 4 times the amount of money she used to make as a stripper and she doesn't have to share any of it with the club.
The point being is that these girls have worked out alternative revenue streams and those alternative streams aren't going away in the future even if COVID does.
Girls covering their base costs from * and Seeking arrangement can hunt in the clubs for new customers. They can also dance on stage and collect stage tips. They can drink all night and get drunk on guys buying them drinks. They don't have to earn money in the VIP.
They don't really want to go to the VIP. They are willing if the guy wants to pay $500 but they would rather see the guy Outside the club and receive that same $500 they are used to making on * and Seeking Arrangements. They don't have an interest in banging 3 or 4 guys a night in the strip club's small VIP area.
They can only make this work if the girls are really attractive but the majority of these girls are.
It used to be a girls only way to make cash was in the VIP but now there are more girls running around who don't care to go to the VIP and prefer to see one guy OTC to earn the same more money that they would need to see multiple guys in the club VIP.
Hopefully with COVID waning there will be new young girls starting to dance who were too young to have set up * during the pandemic, not interested in doing Seeking Arrangements, and too lazy to sign up for either site because there are plenty of guys in the club and the dynamic will switch to more girls earning money in the VIP. Perhaps just like before COVID the girls who enter the stripper lifestyle will be just as lazy and won't take the opportunity to set up an online internet presence. The only reason the current girls set up an online presence was the pandemic forced them (necessity is the mother of invention). Without a pandemic forcing the newly eligible young girls on line, they are much less likely to join these sites.[/QUOTE]So this is why my download speeds dipped yesterday.
[QUOTE=WillBad;5916831]Got to H8 at 7:30, dead for about 15 minutes then picked up a little. By far the best looking one in there was Kat, who sat next to me at the bar. Chatted a bit and then went back to the VIP. Paid troll tax and then started with a lap dance before she quickly asked if I wanted more. We settled on $200 everything. Didn't negotiate a cover for the BJ and she wanted one on to start for the BJ, oh well. Went to doggy and then she rode me to finish. Was a bit of a rusher but a bit my fault since I was so horny I didn't negotiate well. Still got the job done.[/QUOTE]I'm new to this forum but can someone tell me what club H8 is? And where is best one in Detroit for best looking girls for extras and what time?
[QUOTE=RickRoxx;5922389]I'm new to this forum but can someone tell me what club H8 is? And where is best one in Detroit for best looking girls for extras and what time?[/QUOTE]H8 =Henry the 8th North in Inkster.
Best place for best looking plus extra = FC flight club also in Inkster any weekend night
Bts in Dearborn.
LS west side of metro airport in Romulus.
[QUOTE=Passenger;5922266]She was a legend. Her body when in her 40's, put most dancers in their 20's at Penthouse, to shame. She loved to fuck.[/QUOTE]My first squirter. Good times!
[QUOTE=MareloboMex;5920219]With COVID the clubs were all closed for many months. The girls couldn't go that long without earnings, so that forced them to make other arrangements which continue to today, and have changed the landscape.
Strippers in general are not good at planning. When they need money, they would show up at the club, open their legs and collected the dollars. It was an almost unlimited source of cash. As long as they didn't have their period and kept themselves clean and fresh, they could make hundreds or even thousands of dollars a night. Admittedly most just made enough to scrape by and pay enough rent to not get evicted while purchasing their drugs. When COVID came they had no club to work at and no longer an unlimited supply of guys to collect money from.
These girls are not typically good at business or anything that demands competence and keeping a schedule. They would not spend the time / effort to set up an * site or join Seeking Arrangement because it was too darn easy and convenient to go to the club, show pussy, and collect hundreds of dollars.
There are some people on * who make six figure incomes but that is the 1% who work at it every day and answer messages and post regular content and treat it like the real job that it is. Most strippers on the low end can get 10 guys paying 5 dollars for $50 dollars a month coming in. To the high end of 100 guys paying $10 for $1000 a month coming in. Let's say the average stripper earns $500 a month from * Well, that is $500 they never had before that they previously would have had to earn at the club. Since $500 a month is not enough to live on, the real money in * comes from doing dates. Let's suppose a girl does one date a week for multiple hours multiple shots and is paid $500 that is $2000 a month plus her $500 only fans subscriber money and $2500 a month and is enough to live on in Michigan. If she does 2 dates a week that grows to $4500 a month. Now she has her period and can't work every week but she is earning between $2500 and $4500 a month. More than enough money to live on.
Similarly on Seeking arrangement it is not quite as explicitly about sex, but that is what it ends up being about at a similar price point. The girls earn about $500 a night for spending time with the guys. I am in touch with an ex-stripper from a southern midwestern state. She says it is great; she joined Seeking Arrangements for one month, with her looks she had 25 guys who wanted to date her. She ended up getting into a sugar baby relationship with 5 of them. After one month on Seeking Arrangements, she told the guys she didn't like Seeking Arrangements and deleted her profile but she would still see them because she likes them and they are not like the other guys she met (kind of confirming her under the radar status for the dudes). She also works as a Door Dash delivery girl so she has a cover story for the rest of her earnings. Each sugar daddy thinks he is the only guys she is doing this with. They pay her a monthly amount and can see her as many times as they want during the month. But she says something about being able to see her whenever they want is that many months, they will only see her 1 to 3 times. She told me about one of her sugar daddies when he said he couldn't see her in December because he had family events so he didn't want to pay the December monthly allowance. She told him that was ok, but that left her no choice but to go back on Seeking Arrangements again because she really needs his money. Sure, enough that guy coughed up the cash because he couldn't bear to have his sugar baby back on Seeking Arrangements which she doesn't like. She said she is pulling in 4 times the amount of money she used to make as a stripper and she doesn't have to share any of it with the club.
The point being is that these girls have worked out alternative revenue streams and those alternative streams aren't going away in the future even if COVID does.
Girls covering their base costs from * and Seeking arrangement can hunt in the clubs for new customers. They can also dance on stage and collect stage tips. They can drink all night and get drunk on guys buying them drinks. They don't have to earn money in the VIP.
They don't really want to go to the VIP. They are willing if the guy wants to pay $500 but they would rather see the guy Outside the club and receive that same $500 they are used to making on * and Seeking Arrangements. They don't have an interest in banging 3 or 4 guys a night in the strip club's small VIP area.
They can only make this work if the girls are really attractive but the majority of these girls are.
It used to be a girls only way to make cash was in the VIP but now there are more girls running around who don't care to go to the VIP and prefer to see one guy OTC to earn the same more money that they would need to see multiple guys in the club VIP.
Hopefully with COVID waning there will be new young girls starting to dance who were too young to have set up * during the pandemic, not interested in doing Seeking Arrangements, and too lazy to sign up for either site because there are plenty of guys in the club and the dynamic will switch to more girls earning money in the VIP. Perhaps just like before COVID the girls who enter the stripper lifestyle will be just as lazy and won't take the opportunity to set up an online internet presence. The only reason the current girls set up an online presence was the pandemic forced them (necessity is the mother of invention). Without a pandemic forcing the newly eligible young girls on line, they are much less likely to join these sites.[/QUOTE]I can't even try to read all that.
[QUOTE=WillieRichie;5923316]I can't even try to read all that.[/QUOTE]Wayne County Community College has remedial classes that might help. MM is one of the best contributors here.
[QUOTE=MareloboMex;5920219]With COVID the clubs were all closed for many months. The girls couldn't go that long without earnings, so that forced them to make other arrangements which continue to today, and have changed the landscape.
Strippers in general are not good at planning. When they need money, they would show up at the club, open their legs and collected the dollars. It was an almost unlimited source of cash. As long as they didn't have their period and kept themselves clean and fresh, they could make hundreds or even thousands of dollars a night. Admittedly most just made enough to scrape by and pay enough rent to not get evicted while purchasing their drugs. When COVID came they had no club to work at and no longer an unlimited supply of guys to collect money from.
These girls are not typically good at business or anything that demands competence and keeping a schedule. They would not spend the time / effort to set up an * site or join Seeking Arrangement because it was too darn easy and convenient to go to the club, show pussy, and collect hundreds of dollars.
There are some people on * who make six figure incomes but that is the 1% who work at it every day and answer messages and post regular content and treat it like the real job that it is. Most strippers on the low end can get 10 guys paying 5 dollars for $50 dollars a month coming in. To the high end of 100 guys paying $10 for $1000 a month coming in. Let's say the average stripper earns $500 a month from * Well, that is $500 they never had before that they previously would have had to earn at the club. Since $500 a month is not enough to live on, the real money in * comes from doing dates. Let's suppose a girl does one date a week for multiple hours multiple shots and is paid $500 that is $2000 a month plus her $500 only fans subscriber money and $2500 a month and is enough to live on in Michigan. If she does 2 dates a week that grows to $4500 a month. Now she has her period and can't work every week but she is earning between $2500 and $4500 a month. More than enough money to live on.
Similarly on Seeking arrangement it is not quite as explicitly about sex, but that is what it ends up being about at a similar price point. The girls earn about $500 a night for spending time with the guys. I am in touch with an ex-stripper from a southern midwestern state. She says it is great; she joined Seeking Arrangements for one month, with her looks she had 25 guys who wanted to date her. She ended up getting into a sugar baby relationship with 5 of them. After one month on Seeking Arrangements, she told the guys she didn't like Seeking Arrangements and deleted her profile but she would still see them because she likes them and they are not like the other guys she met (kind of confirming her under the radar status for the dudes). She also works as a Door Dash delivery girl so she has a cover story for the rest of her earnings. Each sugar daddy thinks he is the only guys she is doing this with. They pay her a monthly amount and can see her as many times as they want during the month. But she says something about being able to see her whenever they want is that many months, they will only see her 1 to 3 times. She told me about one of her sugar daddies when he said he couldn't see her in December because he had family events so he didn't want to pay the December monthly allowance. She told him that was ok, but that left her no choice but to go back on Seeking Arrangements again because she really needs his money. Sure, enough that guy coughed up the cash because he couldn't bear to have his sugar baby back on Seeking Arrangements which she doesn't like. She said she is pulling in 4 times the amount of money she used to make as a stripper and she doesn't have to share any of it with the club.
The point being is that these girls have worked out alternative revenue streams and those alternative streams aren't going away in the future even if COVID does.
Girls covering their base costs from * and Seeking arrangement can hunt in the clubs for new customers. They can also dance on stage and collect stage tips. They can drink all night and get drunk on guys buying them drinks. They don't have to earn money in the VIP.
They don't really want to go to the VIP. They are willing if the guy wants to pay $500 but they would rather see the guy Outside the club and receive that same $500 they are used to making on * and Seeking Arrangements. They don't have an interest in banging 3 or 4 guys a night in the strip club's small VIP area.
They can only make this work if the girls are really attractive but the majority of these girls are.
It used to be a girls only way to make cash was in the VIP but now there are more girls running around who don't care to go to the VIP and prefer to see one guy OTC to earn the same more money that they would need to see multiple guys in the club VIP.
Hopefully with COVID waning there will be new young girls starting to dance who were too young to have set up * during the pandemic, not interested in doing Seeking Arrangements, and too lazy to sign up for either site because there are plenty of guys in the club and the dynamic will switch to more girls earning money in the VIP. Perhaps just like before COVID the girls who enter the stripper lifestyle will be just as lazy and won't take the opportunity to set up an online internet presence. The only reason the current girls set up an online presence was the pandemic forced them (necessity is the mother of invention). Without a pandemic forcing the newly eligible young girls on line, they are much less likely to join these sites.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the manifesto, Mr Kazinski.
You certainly take quite a lot for granted, and your math doesn't begin to add up. Maybe you should publish?
[QUOTE=MareloboMex;5920219]With COVID the clubs were all closed for many months. The girls couldn't go that long without earnings, so that forced them to make other arrangements which continue to today, and have changed the landscape.
Strippers in general are not good at planning. When they need money, they would show up at the club, open their legs and collected the dollars. It was an almost unlimited source of cash. As long as they didn't have their period and kept themselves clean and fresh, they could make hundreds or even thousands of dollars a night. Admittedly most just made enough to scrape by and pay enough rent to not get evicted while purchasing their drugs. When COVID came they had no club to work at and no longer an unlimited supply of guys to collect money from.
These girls are not typically good at business or anything that demands competence and keeping a schedule. They would not spend the time / effort to set up an * site or join Seeking Arrangement because it was too darn easy and convenient to go to the club, show pussy, and collect hundreds of dollars.
There are some people on * who make six figure incomes but that is the 1% who work at it every day and answer messages and post regular content and treat it like the real job that it is. Most strippers on the low end can get 10 guys paying 5 dollars for $50 dollars a month coming in. To the high end of 100 guys paying $10 for $1000 a month coming in. Let's say the average stripper earns $500 a month from * Well, that is $500 they never had before that they previously would have had to earn at the club. Since $500 a month is not enough to live on, the real money in * comes from doing dates. Let's suppose a girl does one date a week for multiple hours multiple shots and is paid $500 that is $2000 a month plus her $500 only fans subscriber money and $2500 a month and is enough to live on in Michigan. If she does 2 dates a week that grows to $4500 a month. Now she has her period and can't work every week but she is earning between $2500 and $4500 a month. More than enough money to live on...[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Pussylicker2;5923440]Wayne County Community College has remedial classes that might help. MM is one of the best contributors here.[/QUOTE]Thanks PL2.
I understand my post was too long for some. Some things take more than a couple sentences to express.
There are many posts I think are not accurate, but I enjoy reading them.
This board is about communication and information. I shared my thoughts, I am happy if someone can correct them or post a better analysis.
I posted my thoughts in relation to question that was asked by others, and I will continue to answer questions if I feel I have something relevant to say.
MM.
[QUOTE=MareloboMex;5924067]Thanks PL2.
I understand my post was too long for some. Some things take more than a couple sentences to express.
There are many posts I think are not accurate, but I enjoy reading them.
This board is about communication and information. I shared my thoughts, I am happy if someone can correct them or post a better analysis.
I posted my thoughts in relation to question that was asked by others, and I will continue to answer questions if I feel I have something relevant to say.
MM.[/QUOTE]I liked your post it had insight and depth to it and was a good read. Thanks.