Strip Club Reports

I stopped by H8 tonight around 7 and the vibe was pretty good, though there was initially a shortage of dancers. I was almost frustrated, but not too long after, the crowd thinned out and all of a sudden it was no problem finding the time of most any girl you liked (though I sadly missed the chance to chat with the very much in-demand Pixie who was absolutely gorgeous). I did have fun, though, with other dancers such as Cat, Sin, and one other petite Black girl who was very amorous and delightful -- any of whom I'd be glad to see again. Waitresses friendly and overall a nice evening.

Have either aged out, or moved away to greener pastures. Money isn't really being earned on the stage any more. Due to the limited locations, extras are slowly drying up as well. Soon we will be left with one of two choices: travelling to where the action is, or private parties. I used to have a fuck ton of dancer's numbers. I've gotten married and aged out of the game. My brother keeps asking me to throw one last party for his son's 18 birthday. I'd have to hit the few clubs left to rustle up dancers and to be honest, I don't know if I'm still up to it.

[QUOTE=Passenger;5912047]The problem is that there are no new waves, and very few dancers in the majority of the clubs. There are fewer dancers, period.

Look at it this way; Detroit strip clubs have closed or are practically empty. Penthouse, the biggest Detroit club is shuttered; they used to have 30,40, 50 dancers per shift. Where did all of those dancers go? They left the industry.

I read for the past several years from misguided, low-thinking mongers of how good things would be because the Detroit club dancers were going to flock to clubs in Dearborn, Inkster, Romulus, Lincoln Park creating competition and driving down prices with bountiful pussy for all!!

It never happened. Clubs in the burbs have less than half of the dancers per shift than they had 6, 8, 10 years ago. The quality and quantity is the worst it has ever been, and I've been at this since 81. Now prior tonthe early aughts, extras were pretty rare, as there weren't private VIP rooms until about 2004. At the Hamilton clubs there were extras out in the open, but even then it was not terribly common. I got kicked out of H8 and in the early 2000's because another dancer told the bouncer that we were fucking.

So no, your assertion is complete horse shit that "they'll fall inline" (sic). If I had a nickel for each time that I've read that faulty, bullshit logic, devoid of evidence, I would drink for free in strip clubs until I die.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Passenger;5912047]The problem is that there are no new waves, and very few dancers in the majority of the clubs. There are fewer dancers, period.

Look at it this way; Detroit strip clubs have closed or are practically empty. Penthouse, the biggest Detroit club is shuttered; they used to have 30,40, 50 dancers per shift. Where did all of those dancers go? They left the industry.

I read for the past several years from misguided, low-thinking mongers of how good things would be because the Detroit club dancers were going to flock to clubs in Dearborn, Inkster, Romulus, Lincoln Park creating competition and driving down prices with bountiful pussy for all!!

It never happened. Clubs in the burbs have less than half of the dancers per shift than they had 6, 8, 10 years ago. The quality and quantity is the worst it has ever been, and I've been at this since 81. Now prior tonthe early aughts, extras were pretty rare, as there weren't private VIP rooms until about 2004. At the Hamilton clubs there were extras out in the open, but even then it was not terribly common. I got kicked out of H8 and in the early 2000's because another dancer told the bouncer that we were fucking.

So no, your assertion is complete horse shit that "they'll fall inline" (sic). If I had a nickel for each time that I've read that faulty, bullshit logic, devoid of evidence, I would drink for free in strip clubs until I die.[/QUOTE]Got to be the Only Fans revolution.

Wondering if it's the same in other major cities. Detroit (Dearborn, Inkster, Romulus) still has value, where else can you get FS with a cute girl for say $300.

[QUOTE=Passenger;5912047]The problem is that there are no new waves, and very few dancers in the majority of the clubs. There are fewer dancers, period.

Look at it this way; Detroit strip clubs have closed or are practically empty. Penthouse, the biggest Detroit club is shuttered; they used to have 30,40, 50 dancers per shift. Where did all of those dancers go? They left the industry.

I read for the past several years from misguided, low-thinking mongers of how good things would be because the Detroit club dancers were going to flock to clubs in Dearborn, Inkster, Romulus, Lincoln Park creating competition and driving down prices with bountiful pussy for all!!

It never happened. Clubs in the burbs have less than half of the dancers per shift than they had 6, 8, 10 years ago. The quality and quantity is the worst it has ever been, and I've been at this since 81. Now prior tonthe early aughts, extras were pretty rare, as there weren't private VIP rooms until about 2004. At the Hamilton clubs there were extras out in the open, but even then it was not terribly common. I got kicked out of H8 and in the early 2000's because another dancer told the bouncer that we were fucking.

So no, your assertion is complete horse shit that "they'll fall inline" (sic). If I had a nickel for each time that I've read that faulty, bullshit logic, devoid of evidence, I would drink for free in strip clubs until I die.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Sprite78;5912137]Got to be the Only Fans revolution.[/QUOTE]A handful at best. Tons of girls have Only fans accounts, but few make any money at it. Those who do are exceptional in both their marketing and production values. To make the couple hundred to several hundred a night that an average to above-average dancer makes, takes many more hours than the 7 hours that they spend in a club.

The A / V equipment that the good earners use, costs thousands; only the best-looking dancers with above-average intelligence are likely to have the resources to make a good channel. The learning curve to excel at only fans is steep. Other than the girls or couples who have thousand of subscribers or followers, most usebit for supplemental income, not primary. It takes a lot of time filming, then editing their efforts.

It's the same with cam models. Lots of time learning the ropes, and lots of money to have good A / V equipment. Lots of time sitting on cam to empty rooms of viewers, uess they spend lots of time on Twitter and other social media building their brand.

So, how many Detroit dancers do you think have the wherewithal to do that? I've found very few Detroit dancers with enough of a presence and appearance to attract a large following. To succeed at camming and only fans takes a lot of dedication to their craft. If you listen to most mongers here, they maintain that strippers are lazy and irresponsible. Do you think that those traits lend themselves well to be entrepreneurs innthe digital marketplace?

Let's go with Occam's Razor for an answer. They have left the industry for other jobs, most likely not as lucrative, but probably more stable than dancing.

I'm staying in Westland for a few days for work. Made a day trip to a couple spots in the area to see what was what. Hit Bogarts at 3 pm, had 1 beer and bolted. Nothing there looked like it was worth staying for. Went across the street to FC. They probably had 12 girls working at 3:45. Sat at the bar upstairs and watched a good mix of talent with a couple of hot ones in the lineup. A cute, thick, young white girl stopped by and we chatted for about 20 minutes before she mentioned going in the back (I think she said her name was Noel). She offered services starting at 3 bills for a BJ. I nearly spit out my Coors light, she would not negotiate so I politely declined and finished my beer. Left there and headed to H8 and was I grossed out at the Hobbits that were working the stage. Left after about 15 minutes. No luck. I'll make another trip out on a different day / time.

If compare to say the TV medium. First there was cable and the industrious came up with descramblers; then there was satellite and someone learned how to crack the cards; then there was internet TV, streaming all of the paid channels for free. Each time the industry shut down the industrious, someone found a way to skirt the issue. Thrre are a few private parties thrown here and there. There usually those with the drive or those with the resources, but the two rarely meet. I spoke to a young man who had both the drive and the resources, but he had no ingenuity. He said his parties would be raided. I told him to open a private club (members only) that had a bachelor part every other week. NEVER EVER SELL LIQUOR! (You need a liquor license and regulation for that.) don't charge a tip out for tge girls, because then yhey need a license to dance. (But for the love of god, ALWAYS check their I'd). Sell food, water and even stupid shit like Silly String or whipped cream in a can to make up the costs. Charge a "rental fee" for private rooms. It's up to the planner to decide on security. You never heaed about my parties because I didn't allow cell phones. My security consisted of off law enforcement friends (had a DPD, County Sheriff and Fbi agent. Anytime police showed up we were just a bunch of friends at a wild bachelor party). The Union Hall we used to use was torn down when I was out west. And to be honest, I'm a little to old to be club hopping to secure the talent for the parties. But I would tell the girls that I encouraged each guy to bring a minimum of $300 cash with a minimum of 100 guys ($that's $30 k to start) and that it was up to them to get as much of that as they could, any way that they could. Get in good with the girls (pick one to make the others jealous) and offer to split a raffle for her to go in a private room with the winner. The girls want money; the guys want ass; if you facilitate it, everybody has fun and some make some money. As word of mouth spreads, the girls became competitive and upped their game, which in turn brought out more money. I alqays argued that once a month was more than enough for the parties but greed prevailed. But if anyone is interested in more details, hit me up. I'm always willing to share knowledge.

There are easier and legal ways to make money.

[QUOTE=Nick6789;5915405]There are easier and legal ways to make money.[/QUOTE]IMHO, stripping (or other lines of work along the lines of, I. E. * IS easy. And last check, it's legal, too.

I won't claim to know why the scene quality and quantity has decreased. But I think a part of it is as simple as the profession not being seen as the "thing" to do. Before social media blew up, if a chick was looking to make a lot a cash in a short period of time with minimal talent, stripping was among the first things that entered the mind to do.

Now, a chick see someone on Youtube doing a "try-on" haul and advertsing for fashionova. Just putting on different outfits and seeing that as an avenue to get paid. Or they want to do taxes or real estate or * or whatever the "in" hustle is.

And some of this can be done near or from home.

In case of the Detroit clubs losing VIP and some expecting they would flock to other clubs. How far do you think the average dancer is willing to travel on a regular basis? Definitely a factor. Heck, it's a factor for me as a patron and I don't even go out much!

[QUOTE=Wleakr;5915870]IMHO, stripping (or other lines of work along the lines of, I. E. * IS easy. And last check, it's legal, too.

I won't claim to know why the scene quality and quantity has decreased. But I think a part of it is as simple as the profession not being seen as the "thing" to do. Before social media blew up, if a chick was looking to make a lot a cash in a short period of time with minimal talent, stripping was among the first things that entered the mind to do.

Now, a chick see someone on Youtube doing a "try-on" haul and advertsing for fashionova. Just putting on different outfits and seeing that as an avenue to get paid. Or they want to do taxes or real estate or * or whatever the "in" hustle is.

And some of this can be done near or from home.

In case of the Detroit clubs losing VIP and some expecting they would flock to other clubs. How far do you think the average dancer is willing to travel on a regular basis? Definitely a factor. Heck, it's a factor for me as a patron and I don't even go out much![/QUOTE]+1.

Distance is a factor for me, in regard to finding entertainment. While I frequent Henry's and Bogart's, I've looked at the massage parlor ads and have wanting to try out a couple, both in Jackson and Toledo but the thing is distance. I'm downriver and from where I am, Jackson is about an hour away and Toledo is about 45 minutes. So, I could travel 20 minutes or so to places I know or at least double that time or more, going elsewhere.

In regard to dancers, I do know that some of them travel to get to the club. One very talented performer at Henry's North that nights, drives in from Warren and the problem dancer that I got duped into paying up front told me that she drove down from Flint. Both of them said that they do it because the money makes it worth it.

[QUOTE=Wleakr;5915870]IMHO, stripping (or other lines of work along the lines of, I. E. * IS easy. And last check, it's legal, too.

I won't claim to know why the scene quality and quantity has decreased. But I think a part of it is as simple as the profession not being seen as the "thing" to do. Before social media blew up, if a chick was looking to make a lot a cash in a short period of time with minimal talent, stripping was among the first things that entered the mind to do.

Now, a chick see someone on Youtube doing a "try-on" haul and advertsing for fashionova. Just putting on different outfits and seeing that as an avenue to get paid. Or they want to do taxes or real estate or * or whatever the "in" hustle is.

And some of this can be done near or from home.

In case of the Detroit clubs losing VIP and some expecting they would flock to other clubs. How far do you think the average dancer is willing to travel on a regular basis? Definitely a factor. Heck, it's a factor for me as a patron and I don't even go out much![/QUOTE]Over the years many dancers told me that they danced at clubs farther from where they live, or grew up; less chance of being seen by someone they know. Of course much of that has changed since the advent of social media. Girls from Warren, Clinton Twp, etc would bypass Coliseum, Players, Tycoons to dance in Inkster, Dearborn, Romulus, Lincoln Park.

Another one is that groups of girls would travel together; girls from Flint or Saginaw would dance in Inkster, Dearborn, etc. , stay a few nights in shared hotel, then return home.

Back in the day there was a strong cadre of girls traveling to Bogarts from Brooklyn (Jackson). They made way more money in Detroit area than Jackson clubs. The big difference being that Jackson clubs weren't known for extras and well, you know the rest.

Of course the biggest motivator was probably earnings potential. Same reason that mongers flock to clubs that offer potential for more and better extras.

This is the current reality. If you want a good looking girl pay 300 to 500 at FC, or you can have a Hobbit at H8 for 100 to 200, but then again there are people who got lucky.

[QUOTE=TDisregard;5914145]I'm staying in Westland for a few days for work. Made a day trip to a couple spots in the area to see what was what. Hit Bogarts at 3 pm, had 1 beer and bolted. Nothing there looked like it was worth staying for. Went across the street to FC. They probably had 12 girls working at 3:45. Sat at the bar upstairs and watched a good mix of talent with a couple of hot ones in the lineup. A cute, thick, young white girl stopped by and we chatted for about 20 minutes before she mentioned going in the back (I think she said her name was Noel). She offered services starting at 3 bills for a BJ. I nearly spit out my Coors light, she would not negotiate so I politely declined and finished my beer. Left there and headed to H8 and was I grossed out at the Hobbits that were working the stage. Left after about 15 minutes. No luck. I'll make another trip out on a different day / time.[/QUOTE]

Got to H8 at 7:30, dead for about 15 minutes then picked up a little. By far the best looking one in there was Kat, who sat next to me at the bar. Chatted a bit and then went back to the VIP. Paid troll tax and then started with a lap dance before she quickly asked if I wanted more. We settled on $200 everything. Didn't negotiate a cover for the BJ and she wanted one on to start for the BJ, oh well. Went to doggy and then she rode me to finish. Was a bit of a rusher but a bit my fault since I was so horny I didn't negotiate well. Still got the job done.

Looks like it is time again for another trip to the Detroit area for me. Ohio has not only gotten stale as far as the dancer scene is concerned but it is downright depressing. I haven't been in the game long, maybe a couple of years and have had my fair share of stupid mistakes and overpayments (report about 3 weeks ago incoming is one of these). I'm from the cap city area of Ohio and anywhere I drive to to try and get some decent play ITC is a hell of a hike. Only areas I can get extras in my state are 1. 5-2 hours away (Akron and Youngstown) with absolute abysmal quality compared to Michigan. Youngstown has Royalty Room which is a BJ shop where most dancers easily break the 175 lb mark or they look like the meth pipe has destroyed all of their teeth. Akron has a good number of dive bar clubs with dive bar prices but the quality is less than Bogart's or Henry's. It's rough down here for sure. Give me a place I can find an alright supply of white, tatted spinners and I would be a customer for life.

On to the report of my most recent stupid. Probably 2 to 3 weeks ago I found myself at SC. Showed up around 8 pm and there was a decent amount of business going on. Seemed like some regulars were having a party because they had dominated the attention of about 5 dancers who would jump up on stage when they had to and then zoom right back to the booths to get singles thrown on them while a stack of cash sat in my pocket. Hours rolled by while I kept trying to find a girl to my tastes. Thats when I found Leela. Other reports of too many rules are spot on. She is cute though and exactly the body type I prefer so I was definitely interested. I had been there for multiple hours and just wanted to get the night over with so the dumber head did my thinking and I overpaid at 250 for everything covered. Also made the mistake of paying up front but I lucked out and didn't get burned by a dash.

Planning on making a trip up on Saturday since it seems like Friday nights are the worst for places like SC as you will be competing with the "make it rain types". I usually keep my rounds to Bogart's and SC because of all the GPS reports on FC and LS, but I think I might take the leap and check out the scene at those places. Anybody got a line on if there are any of the goth / alt types around? Piercings and tattoos are a thing for me. If I remember right I had an experience with a Noel at Bogart's that fit the look a while back.

[QUOTE=Passenger;5915938]Over the years many dancers told me that they danced at clubs farther from where they live, or grew up; less chance of being seen by someone they know. Of course much of that has changed since the advent of social media. Girls from Warren, Clinton Twp, etc would bypass Coliseum, Players, Tycoons to dance in Inkster, Dearborn, Romulus, Lincoln Park.

Another one is that groups of girls would travel together; girls from Flint or Saginaw would dance in Inkster, Dearborn, etc. , stay a few nights in shared hotel, then return home.

Back in the day there was a strong cadre of girls traveling to Bogarts from Brooklyn (Jackson). They made way more money in Detroit area than Jackson clubs. The big difference being that Jackson clubs weren't known for extras and well, you know the rest.

Of course the biggest motivator was probably earnings potential. Same reason that mongers flock to clubs that offer potential for more and better extras.[/QUOTE]Spot on Passenger! These were the paper chasers that either controlled their substance abuse or a few that didn't use anything other than a drink or cigarette here and there. Social media wasn't prevalent like it is nowadays and the majority of girls that I knew and grew up with from the East side did in fact dance on the west side as far away as possible from being recognized.

Fun fact. For you that are into Porn "Kendra Lust" Michelle used to dance at Booby Trap on 8 mile / John are right out of High School just a couple miles from home. She was always a paper / money chaser and obviously didn't care about who knew what she was doing!

There were quite a few girls that would travel the country as well and from time to time I'd remember seeing some of the most Beautiful women come in Coliseum from Miami, LA, NY and Vegas. Yes, the prices were extremely high but so was the talent.

Another fun fact- For those of you SW people, Asian Liz used to dance back in the day. Met her at Players's about 25 years ago! She was still drinking Vodka heavy back then!

Wish we could go back to having multiple options like back in the day, but times are constantly changing.

Remain Safe Everyone and Happy Friday the 13th!