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[QUOTE=Mogo Master]Sounds like this should be the place where we boycotting buying drinks? Does anyone want to try this on Friday or Saturday night? Sit at the bar or booth and when a bg ask you for a drink, just tell them NO.[/QUOTE]Does she still work there. I went a few times and there are few few young girls there so did not know which one it could be.
Monday, 01/25: four (4) beers = $0.08; pupu/service tip (half sandwich by request, handful peanuts, small pork dish; no wait for beer with light conversation) = $0.1; 1.75 hours = time in bar. Total spent = $0.18.
One of those days at work; needed to be refreshed. Will keep report weekly from today until day before SBowl.
No tell the KFOB customers about the boycott. Let them support their own for a change. The KBs and KBGs treat them better than us local guys, anyway; plus, they can walkout on their big tabs, no problem. That's why they use us local suckers to pick up the slack on unpaid tabs and shafts.
Let the yoboseyos pay their dues, too.
Tee Time closing soon so trying to deplete their stock. If you know the bartenderess or a hostess, they may be able to get you the shots of the remaining stock free of charge.
Good Luck.
[QUOTE=Hinode]Ok braddahs, I gotta ask this, and this is in the right section (LOL)
Where would you take your GF or S/O to just...unwind, drink beer, with karaoke being an option?
A legit, KOREAN BAR, but not the kine that we are accustomed to, like Camelot, etc.
A place with good pupus? Nice atmosphere? Cozy? NOT TOO BUSY on a Friday or Saturday night???
Seniors, I would appreciate any input via PM.
H[/QUOTE]
First off, thanks to all da braddahs who replied via PM, even non-seniors.
One braddah did bring up a good point that I forgot to mention in my criteria:
Which of these said bars are STRICTLY NON-SMOKING?
I will personally get around to thanking each of you via PM when I get around to it. The S/O cant stand cigarette smoke even though I don't mind. Getting the smell off your hair, clothes, etc. though sucks.
Thanks (again) in advance,
H
I know I said that I would never stop going to K Bars before. After reading some of the post by fellow hoppers. I have realized that some of these girls and K Bars don't deserve my money. There are some bars that don't treat me good.
The other night I was at Camelot and they offered people around me pupus and just ignored me. It took me a while to get another beer. My beer sat empty for about 5 minutes. Camelot was one of the bars that I had put down some big cash in the past. Now that I don't sit with any girls there now they don't cater to me like they once did.
Another place that I went to and they didn't treat me well was butterfly. All I got there was looks like who the hell was I. Little did they know I had some breads that I was willing to spend.
When I go to my usual places they always treat me well even if I don't spend the breads. Lately I have been spending little because of they economy, but even the girls treat me well. They haven't forgot who I am. They buy me drinks when I tell them that I don't have the money to buy them drinks.
So as for this boycott, I want in. I would like to know how to handle it. Should I go to Camelot and flash some cash and not buy these girls drinks? I would hate to do that to my regular K Bars since they always treat me well. Should we all meet up at they same bar and all give them the ass? If 10 or more of us showed up at them same time and gave them the ass they would feel it more.
Let me know.
Indatube, set the date and place. I'm in. Shall you make it on a busy (Fri or Sat) or slow weak night? On a busy night, they can just find another customer to buy them, but on a slow night, they have to sit together, suck their thumbs, and talk shit about all of us not buying drinks. Either way I'm in and will bring at least one "Benjamin" with me to flash on the bar. Let's do it sometime real soon! [QUOTE=Indatube]I know I said that I would never stop going to K Bars before. After reading some of the post by fellow hoppers. I have realized that some of these girls and K Bars don't deserve my money. There are some bars that don't treat me good.
The other night I was at Camelot and they offered people around me pupus and just ignored me. It took me a while to get another beer. My beer sat empty for about 5 minutes. Camelot was one of the bars that I had put down some big cash in the past. Now that I don't sit with any girls there now they don't cater to me like they once did.
Another place that I went to and they didn't treat me well was butterfly. All I got there was looks like who the hell was I. Little did they know I had some breads that I was willing to spend.
When I go to my usual places they always treat me well even if I don't spend the breads. Lately I have been spending little because of they economy, but even the girls treat me well. They haven't forgot who I am. They buy me drinks when I tell them that I don't have the money to buy them drinks.
So as for this boycott, I want in. I would like to know how to handle it. Should I go to Camelot and flash some cash and not buy these girls drinks? I would hate to do that to my regular K Bars since they always treat me well. Should we all meet up at they same bar and all give them the ass? If 10 or more of us showed up at them same time and gave them the ass they would feel it more.
Let me know.[/QUOTE]
In my experiance, most kbgs don't like korean men as customers. Some will not sit with them at all. Others, who do sit with them, do it out of respect and to make a few drinks. Yes, these are the guys who don't take out the don and run tabs that they don't pay for. Take care of the locals and screw the Hangu Men. [QUOTE=Aflack]No tell the KFOB customers about the boycott. Let them support their own for a change. The KBs and KBGs treat them better than us local guys, anyway; plus, they can walkout on their big tabs, no problem. That's why they use us local suckers to pick up the slack on unpaid tabs and shafts.
Let the yoboseyos pay their dues, too.[/QUOTE]
The ROB's are going down, went to crystal palace last night, 3 of us, no service, north korean waiter, just walked by, and did not want to, service our table, we asked a girl, and she played dumb, and walked by, the place is lost, with only old hags, and ugly dogs, we got up and left, as we walked out, we notice a hole in the mens restroom door, someone punched the door, Then we went to casino, no service, same thing another north korean waiter, will not service our table, he took care of the table full of north korean guys, the girls, are not bad looking, but stuck up. Left, walked into butterfly, and the same thing, no service, We have money, and very good jobs, the best part, is we will report this treatment to the L. Commission, and immigration, ha ha, goodby ROB's, there is a nice federal detention center, at the airport, waiting for new, customers. After the superbowl, all the bars are going down, no money. Also tax time. They all are too stupid, and don't know whats going on, they have only money in there heads, its too bad, because some may close, and we here that a kalihi bar may go down, because, of not paying taxes, and other legal thing, I hope its, one to go.
[QUOTE=Warrior12]It was basically an ad in the personal sections telling her sob story of being tricked into coming to Honolulu as a hostess, but probably something else like an AMP. She's over at Club Tahoe looking for someone buy her drinks and tell her story. SOS for the BGs. It did have 3 photos attached of her, nothing special in my opinion - buy maybe someone else would find it more appealing.[/QUOTE]My job gave back my night time hours back so check out Club Tahoe lastnight. so as I walk in saw her with a group of guy on a table. she the only young one working there. yep she told me that she was trick about getting a job. she applied for waitress at a Restaurant. when she got here she work at a beat up bar (Happiness) she did'nt like it there. so happen a old guy saw her crying and kind of help her find a place to sleep at. she apply for a job and she hope she getting it next week. Was there 1 1/2 hours. bought her two drinks and never push for drinks. show me her pics on phone. sister,dad and mom. she more thinner then her pic.
[QUOTE=Indatube]The other night I was at Camelot and they offered people around me pupus and just ignored me. It took me a while to get another beer. My beer sat empty for about 5 minutes. Camelot was one of the bars that I had put down some big cash in the past. Now that I don't sit with any girls there now they don't cater to me like they once did.
Another place that I went to and they didn't treat me well was butterfly. All I got there was looks like who the hell was I. Little did they know I had some breads that I was willing to spend.
When I go to my usual places they always treat me well even if I don't spend the breads. Lately I have been spending little because of they economy, but even the girls treat me well. They haven't forgot who I am. They buy me drinks when I tell them that I don't have the money to buy them drinks.
So as for this boycott, I want in. I would like to know how to handle it. Should I go to Camelot and flash some cash and not buy these girls drinks? I would hate to do that to my regular K Bars since they always treat me well. Should we all meet up at they same bar and all give them the ass? If 10 or more of us showed up at them same time and gave them the ass they would feel it more.
Let me know.[/QUOTE]
A one day boycott by 5% of the customers won't phase them. Remember what we all say, they are in it for the money. That includes investing on pupus for the customers. If you don't spend, they won't either. You need to fill the whole bar with boycotter's so the spending customers will not have seats (that includes rooms) to sit at. Did Kaiser's strike picketers do anything last week? Barely. Bought a ford a couple years ago and they gave me a lcd tv. Maybe I should go back every week to keep getting tv's. Not. I only got special treatment because of what I bought THAT DAY. Not to say they won't be courteous to me in the future, but again, we are talking about a KOREAN BAR. The problem is we expect these places to be judged like every other business out there. Wrong. It's a kb. With their own assh**e way of doing business. If you really want to make a dent. You need to get rid of the customers who spend money even if they get shitty service because they need to feed their egos by sitting with a girl. Set up a camera outside the bar and film the customers and girls coming in the door. Then post it on youtube. When the word get out that customers will be in the internet, they would stay away rather then being seen by their friends and families. You need to get drastic to make a dent. These girls don't give s**t. If they are hurting, they'll just ask mama for a loan, then skip out of town when they can't pay her back.
[QUOTE=Mogo Master]Indatube, set the date and place. I'm in. Shall you make it on a busy (Fri or Sat) or slow weak night? On a busy night, they can just find another customer to buy them, but on a slow night, they have to sit together, suck their thumbs, and talk shit about all of us not buying drinks. Either way I'm in and will bring at least one "Benjamin" with me to flash on the bar. Let's do it sometime real soon![/QUOTE]
I think it would hurt them more if alot of guys were there on a busy night like fri sat. If you were taking up seats and only drinking beers it would crowd the bar. This in turn would not allow potential girl drink buying customers to sit. So I think a busy night would be more harmful. I wonder if they would try to kick you out so they could allow a girl and their customer to sit? I do the K bars once and awhile. Usually go with my friends.
Personally I don't like the camera idea because it can also hurt us. We go to all of these places and do many things that society frown upon. What I'm saying is it could be me on utube coming out with a girl or out of an amp for that matter. This could backfire in so many ways.
[QUOTE=Jimmiedean]Personally I don't like the camera idea because it can also hurt us. We go to all of these places and do many things that society frown upon. What I'm saying is it could be me on utube coming out with a girl or out of an amp for that matter. This could backfire in so many ways.[/QUOTE]
I hear you. I was trying to be a wise guy, taking it to the extreme. The point I always make (from 30 yrs. of hunting), is when you expect a kb, k-bar, mama to act, think, and/or be like a person with a conscience then you set yourself up for frustration. They have no conscience. Take this as a compliment. It's because us guys have a conscience that we get pissed at them. They don't have common courtesy like we do. If you EXPECT ANYTHING (service, sex, groping, food), then maybe you're in the wrong place. The only thing you can expect is they want your money.
[QUOTE=Iliketowatch]I hear you. I was trying to be a wise guy, taking it to the extreme. The point I always make (from 30 yrs. Of hunting), is when you expect a kb, k-bar, mama to act, think, and/or be like a person with a conscience then you set yourself up for frustration. They have no conscience. Take this as a compliment. It's because us guys have a conscience that we get pissed at them. They don't have common courtesy like we do. If you EXPECT ANYTHING (service, sex, groping, food), then maybe you're in the wrong place. The only thing you can expect is they want your money.[/QUOTE]Sorry that this is my first post, but I decided that I finally wanted to start contributing for a change I totally agree! Yes, they want your money, that's the bottom line! In the end it's a game, and this game will cost money. How much will depend on the game you decide to play and will vary from person to person. That's what keeps these bars in business though. Every bar has play, but like every bar the price will vary Of course its not a sure thing like an AMP we all know this. IMHO the intrigue comes with the hunt. How can I F___ her? Sometimes the answer is no chance, sometimes its like an AMP (just state the price), sometimes it takes time and repeat visits to build that "trust" and sometimes you could just be lucky and be there at the right moment (f'ed up enough, horny etc). As always YMMV! If you don't know that this is a business and what the girl's call "work" then you are hanging out at the wrong place We can all question the term "work" when used by BG's but that's a totally different topic in it self. In the end you will spend money somehow or eventually be treated like an unwanted guest. Knowing this, either run your best game and see how little you can spend, drop down the $$$ and just be blunt with what you want or don't buy drinks and just tip the bartender well to see if you can get house pupus.
[QUOTE=Iliketowatch]I hear you. I was trying to be a wise guy, taking it to the extreme. The point I always make (from 30 yrs. of hunting), is when you expect a kb, k-bar, mama to act, think, and/or be like a person with a conscience then you set yourself up for frustration. They have no conscience. Take this as a compliment. It's because us guys have a conscience that we get pissed at them. They don't have common courtesy like we do. If you EXPECT ANYTHING (service, sex, groping, food), then maybe you're in the wrong place. The only thing you can expect is they want your money.[/QUOTE]
I just hate putting the idea out there. Next thing you know it's happening to you. Lol somethings are just better left unsaid. Hinode that sucks about being known on the site like that. I feel for you. Especially since you like KBs.
No cave-in to the KBG Academy Award winning actresses when this boycott fever takes effect. BFever will affect the Kbar business and community like never before in its history. And the beautiful part of the whole thing is that they WILL f**k, ARE f**king, and SHALL continue to f**k themselves in the ass with their shitty, obnoxious, barbaric attitudes. I think I going extend by personal boycott past SBowl.
This is our home and territory. They think they can just come in and try to take over our home; push their crap asses on everybody. And still talk stink about local people. One BG told me "Everybody know Hawaii people country people and act like country people. " Told her to f**k herself and get the hell out of this state and country; they no pay income taxes anyway.
Get good ones, too, but not in the Kbar. They something else.
[QUOTE=Jimmiedean]somethings are just better left unsaid. Hinode that sucks about being known on the site like that. I feel for you. Especially since you like KBs.[/QUOTE]
Fak yah...
I should join braddahs mogo master and indatube just to spite these ROBs from doing what they do. I mean seriously, if you aint gonna give it up, at the VERY LEAST give GOOD customer service! Pupus, make sure our beer doesnt run/stay dry, (hows about some TIME?) like, sitting down, even if we dont buy you a drink just fuckin shut yer mouth and listen to us vent, whine, *****, cry about our jobs, wives, S/Os, kids, traffic, economy, whatevahs...
I got this one KBG that I would love to bone. Shes guarans 50+, attractive (in my eyes) and CARRIES herself well. Yes, she will GREET me, ACKNOWLEDGE me, and will NEVER TRY TO push drinks on me. I DO feel bad though when I turn her down, and I know that she is there to MAKE MONEY. When I see her POLITELY understand my POV, and see her talk to other guys, it...kinda hurts me I guess-- well yeah, because she's so COOL.
She's not some smokin' young 20+ something, but she knows how to carry herself like a woman and doesn't talk LOUD, act obnoxious, stupid, or drunk, and she understands MEN! Every time I try and hit on her for "more" she always just gives me that school teacher look to a little boy like, "shame on you!" LOL! That's what makes her so ...hmm whats the word, desirable? The hunt? The chase?
OK OK before all you hot up horny mofos start bombing me via PM and filling my inbox....I won't say her name nor where she works, because 97% of you will say she is average looking/too old/too ugly/NO PLAY OFFERED.
So, in short, I aint tellin. This is strictly MY HUMBLE OPINION.
But I would be game to just drink and talk shit and point out girls and get all reeep, laughing over them sulking, talking shit back at us in Korean, while they have their thumbs up their asses....hahah....
So how we gonna do this? "Fold" a napkin in a certain way or something? No promises I'm going due to weird work schedule (and S/O at home) but I'm reading...and waiting... :)
Take care braddahs,
H
[QUOTE=Iliketowatch]I hear you. I was trying to be a wise guy, taking it to the extreme. The point I always make (from 30 yrs. of hunting), is when you expect a kb, k-bar, mama to act, think, and/or be like a person with a conscience then you set yourself up for frustration. They have no conscience. Take this as a compliment. It's because us guys have a conscience that we get pissed at them. They don't have common courtesy like we do. If you EXPECT ANYTHING (service, sex, groping, food), then maybe you're in the wrong place. The only thing you can expect is they want your money.[/QUOTE]
You are correct sir. These girls have no conscience. They don't have common courtesy. And most of all, they do not have ALOHA. They make it seem like I should be honored or something to be in their presence. Like I should worship the ground they walk on or something. I'm the damn customer. They should be serving me! They have this idea that they can treat anyone whatever way they like and get away with it. And when I was younger, I used to go to bars looking for action. I guess because the eye candy used to just blow my mind back then. I just had to have it. But now, I have gotten used to seeing eye candy throughout the years. Some of the eye candy are the same ones from back then. LOL. Now I just go for alcohol and good service. Sex is a nice bonus gift. But if I don't get good service, that only leaves alcohol. I might as well not even go. Just drink at home with the boys and BBQ.
No need plan anything special. Everything will just be a natural progression of p/o customers and f/up KBGs. It's all G and shall evolve naturally. Like a wet dream. Going be gangsta.
However, if you guys plan something like one Great KB Boycott, please post the itinerary so we can all enjoy the journey. Must get at least 500-1K
Guys perusing this site on a regular basis. I ready for the battle.
BFever. Look what you started, Col Chuck!
[QUOTE=Col Chuck] spend max 20 ..no atf drinks, no batender drinks, no ms drinks, no waiter drinks, and definitely no BG drinks....will be funny to watch...[/QUOTE]
That's funny, this is a regular part of my routine at some places. I say SOME places, because places like Camelot is one of the worst for doing this because they will remember and treat you likewise after that until your pocketbook opens up again.
1. Just sit at the bar, never venture into booths.
2. If a kbar ho approaches, ignore her. Some are persistent, so tell her, "before you introduce yourself, I want to let you know that I buy drinks only for myself". Some are stupid and say something like, "Oh that's ok. I just want to talk", "You handsome man", "Nobody buy me drinkee tonight, honey", all the while thinking, "fuck you cheapee chalee". I WANT to be known as a CC. Hos leave you alone. Some see it as a challenge, let them knock themselves out trying. If I want to talk to a foreign-born woman who barely speaks English, I'd call my grandma up.
3. Tip the bartender appropriately.. 01 per beer is standard in regular bars; in kbars, I tip. 005 per beer. Unfortunately, many are hos just doing their time back there. But if you accept their offer of food, you really should tip over and above your bar tip.
4. When you leave, leave with a big smile on your face and offer a cheerful "thanks and good night".
5. Needless to say, think with the big head for most of the time.
Imagine if you lost your job, lost your home, lost your car, lost your money, and was wandering the streets of Keeamoku as a homeless dude, when a guy approaches you and says, wanna work at my bar? Customers will pay you 20 bucks a drink just to sit with them. OH, and it's gay bar. You need the money so you try it out. The guys are groping you, trying to take you home for sex, but the money is good. Would you stay? That's what the girls are faced with. Reminds me of the new years when mama came to sit at our table. The other girls told me, why don't you buy mama a champagne. I said (jokingly), mama is my gf, I'll have sex with her later. The three other girls said (almost together), we rather have the champagne.
[QUOTE=Iliketowatch]Imagine if you lost your job, lost your home, lost your car, lost your money, and was wandering the streets of Keeamoku as a homeless dude, when a guy approaches you and says, wanna work at my bar? Customers will pay you 20 bucks a drink just to sit with them. OH, and it's gay bar. You need the money so you try it out. The guys are groping you, trying to take you home for sex, but the money is good. Would you stay? That's what the girls are faced with. Reminds me of the new years when mama came to sit at our table. The other girls told me, why don't you buy mama a champagne. I said (jokingly), mama is my gf, I'll have sex with her later. The three other girls said (almost together), we rather have the champagne.[/QUOTE]
Sorry, not the same; we are not lesbians trying to grab the bg and fuck her. The proper analogy would be a host bar with women customers groping you and trying to take you home for sex. Personally, I'd have no problem being a gigalo and being paid to drink with the girls and fuck their brains out for pay.
[QUOTE=Thumperforq]Sorry, not the same; we are not lesbians trying to grab the bg and fuck her. The proper analogy would be a host bar with women customers groping you and trying to take you home for sex. Personally, I'd have no problem being a gigalo and being paid to drink with the girls and fuck their brains out for pay.[/QUOTE]
It's not a gay or lez theory. It's having to put out for money with someone you DON'T wan't to have sex with. Would you just the money if you were desperate? If mimi mama paid you, would you bonk her? You can't use sex a a guy thing because that's what guys want. Think of something guys don't want and use that as the end result.
[QUOTE=Col Chuck]boycott, boycott, boycott. Spread the wordm spend max 20. No atf drinks, no batender drinks, no ms drinks, no waiter drinks, and definitely no BG drinks. Will be funny to watch. Would be funnier if we paid 20bucks to homeless guys to carry signs boycotting or give the homeless guy 20 to sit in the bar. Hahaha hohoho heheehe[/QUOTE]For a boycott to work, the boycottees have to know what and why it is happening. They probably don't even know the definition. Write this down on a note card, or print flyers or signs, and recite it in the bar:
"no jowa customer chaji, asswhy sadam customer opso! Adaso? "
Sorry guys, I screwed up. Went barhopping the other night and dropped a total of $$$$$ at several bars. It was a fun night though, as I have been stressed with my business.
[QUOTE=Iliketowatch]It's not a gay or lez theory. It's having to put out for money with someone you DON'T wan't to have sex with. Would you just the money if you were desperate? If mimi mama paid you, would you bonk her? You can't use sex a a guy thing because that's what guys want. Think of something guys don't want and use that as the end result.[/QUOTE]
Again, you try to make excuses and justifications for the hoes. It's their job to give us sex if they want to earn the money; no ifs ands or buts. That's how the bars operated in the 80s and 90s. I don't know why they changed, but its pretty obvious to me that there have been a lot of weak minded mongers that allowed / encouraged this to happen. If the hoes don't want to have sex, get a regular job and don't work in the bar; the choice is always there.
[QUOTE=Iliketowatch]It's not a gay or lez theory. It's having to put out for money with someone you DON'T wan't to have sex with. Would you just the money if you were desperate? If mimi mama paid you, would you bonk her? You can't use sex a a guy thing because that's what guys want. Think of something guys don't want and use that as the end result.[/QUOTE]I think that not getting play from hos is "something guys don't want". We don't want no play. So it does boil down to sex, and Thump's reply is appropriate.
But seriously, these hos get into the business knowing full well that sex sells. They put up with it because it pays well. They expect it to happen and possibly treat it more like an inconvenience rather than an occupational hazard. They know what they're doing, and it's all good to them.
I think I fall in the somewhat same category as you with a few variances. I like to drink, watch and look for new talent. With that being said, I do not simply sit with any available girl. I choose who I want to spend my money. I've heard other girls mention CC but who cares. But remember this can play in your favor so when you do sit with a kbg, you tell her, "I don't normally sit with anyone but. " Yes, this has worked a number of times for me. If she and the other girls only knew my track record for being a CC.
I've met and know lots of kbgs as a friend or customah friend. When they do try to ask for a GL drink, I just tell them that I'll catch them the next time. They'll usually hunt for someone else after a few minutes of chit chat.
For the new girls that try to "scoot" their way in the seats, I let them. We make the standard small talk then when she asks for a drink, I tell them politely that I have a partner, we are waiting for more friends to get the party started, not tonight, come back a little later or just plain no. They shouldn't get mad because they are the ones that tried to plant themselves without asking.
As for service, if you don't spend money or go with guys that spend money, you will probably get very little to no service. My advice would be to make friend's with the mama, maybe buy her one GL drink (and that's it). Try tipping the waiter or waitress serving you on the first round a couple of bucks and tell them you may leave soon so wanted to tip a few in case you dig out. Be friendly, talk to them. They will remember and come back to serve you that night and most likely the next time you roll in. The reason why you do this is because it's standard practice that the waiters/waitresses won't service your table if they see a kbg servicing the table. So if she leaves to sit with another customer, you are left dry, sucking your thumb while the waiter makes a conscious effort to bypass your table.
So bottom line is if you or your group of 2 or 3 friends are not handsome, spending money (or look like you have money) or have built a relationship with the bar staff, you may not get the best service. Good Luck.
[QUOTE=Pursuer]1. Just sit at the bar, never venture into booths.
2. If a kbar ho approaches, ignore her. Some are persistent, so tell her, "before you introduce yourself, I want to let you know that I buy drinks only for myself". Some are stupid and say something like, "Oh that's ok. I just want to talk", "You handsome man", "Nobody buy me drinkee tonight, honey", all the while thinking, "fuck you cheapee chalee". I WANT to be known as a CC. Hos leave you alone. Some see it as a challenge, let them knock themselves out trying. If I want to talk to a foreign-born woman who barely speaks English, I'd call my grandma up.
3. Tip the bartender appropriately. 01 per beer is standard in regular bars; in kbars, I tip. 005 per beer. Unfortunately, many are hos just doing their time back there. But if you accept their offer of food, you really should tip over and above your bar tip.
4. When you leave, leave with a big smile on your face and offer a cheerful "thanks and good night".
5. Needless to say, think with the big head for most of the time.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=John Ross]Sorry guys, I screwed up. Went barhopping the other night and dropped a total of $$$$$ at several bars. It was a fun night though, as I have been stressed with my business.[/QUOTE]
Are you apologizing for not inviting the rest of us for some fun.
So if anyone wants to go to a kbar and not buy girls drinks, PM me.
If you guys have an idea where you would like to go and that in with your PM.
[QUOTE=Asstro]For a boycott to work, the boycottees have to know what and why it is happening. They probably don't even know the definition. Write this down on a note card, or print flyers or signs, and recite it in the bar:
"no jowa customer chaji, asswhy sadam customer opso! Adaso? "[/QUOTE]For the boycott to work, and I'm alls in favor of it, we need a special code so everyone knows that we are doing the boycott. For example, if everyone wears a certain color hat or certain color shirt everytime we go KB, den we can acknoledge each other at the bars and give a little nod in soliddarity.
Imagine: walking into camelot and everyone stay wearing RED baseball hats, and all the BGs are standing around crying to demselves. LOL!
Peace out
[QUOTE=Aflack]No need plan anything special. Everything will just be a natural progression of p/o customers and f/up KBGs. It's all G and shall evolve naturally. Like a wet dream. Going be gangsta.
However, if you guys plan something like one Great KB Boycott, please post the itinerary so we can all enjoy the journey. Must get at least 500-1K
Guys perusing this site on a regular basis. I ready for the battle.
BFever. Look what you started, Col Chuck![/QUOTE]
imagine this, go to the bar with $40 in pocket, sit down, anywhere (bar or booth), when someone asks you "do you know someone?" answer, "yes, can you call kitchen mama?" , kitchen mama comes, you say"can I buy you a $20 drink?, she looks at you and says "no need, " you say " no I buy you $20 drink".she goes to get a drink with your $20...comes back, make small talk..bet you more than half say, "i bring you some food, you like?" even if its house pupu, you better off already and she may make something special for you?? What you think guys? Might go back to the old days?? of course the other $20 is to buy your own beer and tip...
[QUOTE=Magnod]Are you apologizing for not inviting the rest of us for some fun.[/QUOTE]
For not sticking with your boycott.
I do enjoy hanging at the bars as it can be quite entertaining. Spend a little to get to know the girls, then they start to pick your brain to learn more about investments & business opportunities. You turn the tables as you have something they want. They start talking about themselves and other girls and it is good stuff to remember as information is a powerful tool. Leave them hanging because you have something they want.
Col Chuck, I'll go with you, but only bring 30 bucks. My 10 + your 10 can buy kitchen mama a $20 drink. My other 20 could buy my drinks and leave a tip. Probably can even go home with a few bucks in my pocket!
QUOTE=Col Chuck]imagine this, go to the bar with $40 in pocket, sit down, anywhere (bar or booth), when someone asks you "do you know someone?" answer, "yes, can you call kitchen mama?" , kitchen mama comes, you say"can I buy you a $20 drink?, she looks at you and says "no need, " you say " no I buy you $20 drink".she goes to get a drink with your $20...comes back, make small talk..bet you more than half say, "i bring you some food, you like?" even if its house pupu, you better off already and she may make something special for you?? What you think guys? Might go back to the old days?? of course the other $20 is to buy your own beer and tip...[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Col Chuck]imagine this, go to the bar with $40 in pocket, sit down, anywhere (bar or booth), when someone asks you "do you know someone? " answer, "yes, can you call kitchen mama? ", kitchen mama comes, you say"can I buy you a $20 drink?, she looks at you and says "no need, " you say " no I buy you $20 drink". She goes to get a drink with your $20. Comes back, make small talk. Bet you more than half say, "I bring you some food, you like? " even if its house pupu, you better off already and she may make something special for you? What you think guys? Might go back to the old days? Of course the other $20 is to buy your own beer and tip.[/QUOTE]Yeah that would be so funny. I'm going to do that this week end. Infact I'm going to do this all the time at places that give me bad service.
[QUOTE=Thumperforq]Again, you try to make excuses and justifications for the hoes. It's their job to give us sex if they want to earn the money; no ifs ands or buts. That's how the bars operated in the 80s and 90s. I don't know why they changed, but its pretty obvious to me that there have been a lot of weak minded mongers that allowed / encouraged this to happen. If the hoes don't want to have sex, get a regular job and don't work in the bar; the choice is always there.[/QUOTE]
I'm not trying to say I know it all or my views are god, just observing the changes thru the years. Back in the 80's we used to have a lot more success with bagging'em. It's because they were 1st generation kbg from korea. Now these girls are more than likely 2nd and 3rd generation ho's. Just like the customers. We were 1st generation mongers (age 18) and now you rarely see the young guys, they just frequent the nightclubs and local bars. New generation, new standards. Everyone has their own tolerances. I'm just trying to help out all the guys who talk to me on the bar complaining about all the bucks they spend. As for "supposed to have sex", it depends on the mama. Went out with a new girl from mayas 3 years ago. During the interview with maya, she said, mama said, "no sex" with customers, just make them feel that's what they may get. That's why maya had to fire some girls for handling the customers tools in the booths. But at Patti's bar (Camelot), she encourages room play and even sex if the girl is up for it. I'll post a bar by bar list of who will do it for a price soon. It's no secret, you probably already know who they are. I neva side with the bg's, just observing reality. Like smoking in the bar. I smoke, but go outside, because that's the way it is even if I don't like it. If they not going give it up, then I'm not going to bang my head against the wall, when I really want her head banging against my wall (know what I mean?).
[QUOTE=John Ross]For not sticking with your boycott.
I do enjoy hanging at the bars as it can be quite entertaining. Spend a little to get to know the girls, then they start to pick your brain to learn more about investments & business opportunities. You turn the tables as you have something they want. They start talking about themselves and other girls and it is good stuff to remember as information is a powerful tool. Leave them hanging because you have something they want.[/QUOTE]
Psychological warfare! That's the new-money for the new-age bg. It takes tack, not smack to get in their crack, now days. Don't force your way in. That's what they are running away from in Korea.
As much as people think I back the girls, I realize they do, or don't do what they want no matter what we fell they should do. When I really think about, my biggest gripe is against the men. You know who they are:
1) The Reyn's shirt guys that come from DT after work trying to show their work buddies that they can sit with a girl 20 years their younger, only to go home to wife that doesn't open her legs anymore.
2) The guy that never had friends in school, and now feels the need be popular.
3) The guys who brings in food for the girls hoping he can get an inside track by playing the non-threatening customer.
4) The retiree with the pension blow his cash for a ard around his shoulder.
5) The guy that has a virtual girlfriend on his computer and his blow up doll, think that his bar "gf" really loves him for who he is.
6) Etc., etc.,etc. You know who they are!
These guys can't get the sex, can't get it up, can't get a 2nd look in life, and most importantly have resided themselves to never getting laid so to protect their egos, they don't pursue sex from the girls, saying I'm not a perv. You're not sex addict like me because you have "morals", you're not a sex addict because you can't get it.
They set the tone for the girls. Money is just as much a part of their being as these girls. If you are one of these guys, don't take it personally, but it makes my job harder, so I rant. When you pay, all you want is the time of the day, If I pay, I want play. So next time you buy a girl 10 shots, tell her to tell the bald, fat, ugly, old guy on the bar, you'll give him a blow job, so I know you are still on our team. I'll thank you later.