And take my laptop to the club.
[QUOTE=Passenger;5867285]Perhaps order some bottle service, then read the threads and use the search functions and you'll be an expert in no time?[/QUOTE]
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And take my laptop to the club.
[QUOTE=Passenger;5867285]Perhaps order some bottle service, then read the threads and use the search functions and you'll be an expert in no time?[/QUOTE]
Has anyone seen the pornstars that visit? If so, is it even worth going or no? Papa Be.
[QUOTE=Jay23;5867054]So much good info. Need to find a way to keep a single doc (Something like yelp for strippers) so it can be searched while you are in the club. Thoughts?[/QUOTE]Samsung phones have an App called "Samsung Notes" works very well for this.
Write your own notes. Past URL's, pics whatever.
Now THAT my friends is one hell of a review! I appreciate you being so scientific about your mongering. It certainly helps the rest of us, and I will take heed of your sage advice!
[QUOTE=MareloboMex;5865639]I have finished my Detroit engagement running for the past 9 months where I made 24 trips to the motor city. During those 24 trips I treated myself to 37 VIP sessions. I would often visit the VIP 2 times on the same night and one night I even went 3 times.
20 nights I went to BTs, 11 nights I went to Criket, and 3 nights I went to Dreamgirls. I typically started at BTs and if I couldn't find something I liked then changed to another club. I also followed dancers I enjoyed as they moved from club to club.
My approach looks & attitude:
I evaluate the girls on looks first and then attitude. My preference if for young thin fit spinners, with small firm perky tits, firm flat stomach, and minimal or no tattoos, piercings and make up. I watch the girls dance on stage, and I will tip $1 to a good looking girl and invite her sit and talk to me. While we are talking, I assess her attitude. I expect her to pay attention to me and not her cell phone. If we have good natural chemistry, she is friendly, in a good mood, and shares some information about herself, then I will agree to negotiate a VIP session.
I know looks are subjective and standards of beauty are different for each guy. There are plenty of older, curvier, heavier, big breasted girls, heavily tattooed, pierced and girls wearing significant amounts of make up for those of you who like that.
Over 24 visits I spent time with 13 girls who passed both the looks and the attitude test. As always YMMV.
8 girls I enjoyed, I want to repeat, I suggest others try them and are likely to be happy with them.
- Nae at BTs & Criket.
- Sky at Criket.
- Zoe at BTs.
- Arabella at BTs & Dreamgirls.
- Fiona at BTs.
- Naomi at BTs.
- Celeste at BTs (she also dances at Pantheon).
- Raven at BTs.
3 girls provided adequate sessions, I might repeat depending on who else is dancing, but prefer to try a new girl.
- Tinsley at BTs.
- Shay at Criket others have complained about her, but I enjoyed my session with her.
- Serena at BTs.
2 girls I did not enjoy, I do not plan to repeat.
- Nyra at BTs.
- Princess at BTs others have had good sessions with her, but she was my worst VIP on this trip.
Repeat girls: 37 sessions with 13 girls meant I repeated with same girls for 24 of the sessions.
- Nae at BTs & Criket.
- Sky at Criket.
- Arabella at BTs & Dreamgirls.
- Fiona at BTs.
New girls: 11 of the 13 girls had not seen prior to this trip.
Girls I had previously tried:
- Arabella at BTs & Dreamgirls.
- Tinsley at BTs Although when I tried her before she was dancing at Criket.
Negotiations: I always request no song count and to go to the VIP after she finishes her stage set. My maximum price is $200 and I succeed in negotiating lower than that numerous times. For complete transparency, regardless of negotiated price I do offer the girls a $20 - $40 tip if they exceed my expectation and succeed in making me happy during the VIP. My expectations are extremely high and it is difficult for the girls to exceed them but there were 8 times out of the 37 sessions the girls earned my tip. Also, for girls who I repeated with and enjoyed their company, if they would sit with me in the main room, I would buy them drinks or food. So, my total spend on the girl could be as high as $250 if I bought her a drink and she earned a tip.
Looks Only:
In addition to the 13 girls I sampled there were 27 other girls that I rated as 7 or higher and got a boner watching them dance. I did not sample for the following reasons.
Note there are two girls named Chloe. 1 who started dancing in 2020 and one who started dancing in 2021. I didn't sample either one of them.
Note there are two girls name Athena. 1 wo started dancing in 2020 and one who started dancing in 2021. I didn't sample either one of them.
Crazy high prices:
This year was different than in past years. Previously almost every girl was happy with $200 and this year many girls insisted on more money which ended up being a lose lose proposition, because instead of getting $200 I gave them nothing, and instead of me enjoying their feminine charms I sat by myself. This is another reason I did so many repeat sessions as once I found a girl I liked at a reasonable price point, I continued to see her over and over again. This worked well for both myself and the girl.
If you can get any of these 5 girls at a reasonable price, they could be a good VIP. If they insist on high prices, I encourage you to do what I did say no thanks, if you want $200 you know where to find me. At their current offers I suggest others avoid them.
- Natalia at BTs - $1000.
- Rain at BTs - $500.
- Anna at BTs - $500.
- Athena from 2021 - $500.
- Zoe at BTs I did one session with her at a reasonable price on her first night working, then she told me future sessions would be $500, so I didn't take her again.
Demanded payment upfront:
I have never had paying in advance work out well. I do think it is fair to show the girl you have the money so she is not being cheated, but then it goes back in my pocket until I am happy. These girls are helping you avoid bad sessions with them by insisting on payment up front, they will at best be mechanical, and at worst grab your money and walk out leaving you unhappy. I suggest other avoid them.
- Chloe from 2020 at BTs & Dreamgirls.
- Leela at Criket.
- Lola / Jade at BTs.
- Winter at BTs.
Refused to take my dollar:
I never experienced this behavior before this trip. Normally the girls are friendly and appreciative when being tipped at the stage. I don't think it hurts the girl to be polite when a guy decides to tip them. I have often observed when one guy tips a girl that prompts other guys to also tip her. I had 5 girls who refused my tip or complained that $1 was too small of a tip. While this behavior by the girls is rude, I know they are showing me insight into how they would behave in the VIP and their bad conduct has prevented me from taking them for a poor VIP session. I suggest others avoid them.
- Anna at BTs.
- India at BTs.
- Athena from 2020 at BTs.
- Thai at BTs.
- Honey at BTs.
Attitude problems:
All these girls are hot looking, and they pass my first criteria of being a 7 or higher and giving me a boner. But I have learned I can avoid many unsatisfying VIP sessions by having a little chat and assessing her attitude. If she has a bad attitude in the main room, it doesn't matter how good she looks her VIP will likely be disappointing. I spend a lot of money to go to the VIP, and I don't want a disappointing one. Sometimes 2 people just don't click with each other. Or the girl might be having a bad night. So if you get her on a good night or you have good chemistry then these girls might be good choices for you. I passed on VIP with them based on their attitude while talking to me.
- Chloe form 2021 at Criket and BTs.
- Peaches at BTs.
- Summer at BTs.
- Lyric at Criket.
- Jamie at BTs, although she said she usually dances at Landing Strip.
- Abby at BTs.
- Morgan at BTs.
Refused to come and talk with me:
I never got to assess these girls attitudes as they avoided me, despite being tipped multiple times. Perhaps they knew something about me, or didn't like my looks. These girls could be good choices if they are willing to come sit with you. This is a very high number of girls that refused to sit with me, normally the girls are happy to join you. Perhaps they are friends with a girl who had a bad attitude and I already declined. Regardless I would have liked the chance to talk with them, and decide if I should go to the VIP, but I did not get that chance.
- Ari at BTs.
- Candy at BTs.
- Mia at BTs she was always busy, I only saw her a couple of times, she was at least nice during stage tips.
- Rosie at BTs.
- River at BTs she did join me on my last night but I already negotiated a VIP with another girl.
- Miley at BTs I only saw her once, and she left club shortly after I saw her.
- Ewe at Dreamgirls.
MM.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=PapaBoner78;5867506]Has anyone seen the pornstars that visit? If so, is it even worth going or no? Papa Be.[/QUOTE]Only if it's your very first time going to a SC.
Reviews I would recommend reading: This one.
Then there are all the rest. I think there should be no more reviews after MM's, just saying.
[QUOTE=MareloboMex;5865639]I have finished my Detroit engagement running for the past 9 months where I made 24 trips to the motor city. During those 24 trips I treated myself to 37 VIP sessions. I would often visit the VIP 2 times on the same night and one night I even went 3 times.
20 nights I went to BTs, 11 nights I went to Criket, and 3 nights I went to Dreamgirls. I typically started at BTs and if I couldn't find something I liked then changed to another club. I also followed dancers I enjoyed as they moved from club to club.
My approach looks & attitude:
I evaluate the girls on looks first and then attitude. My preference if for young thin fit spinners, with small firm perky tits, firm flat stomach, and minimal or no tattoos, piercings and make up. I watch the girls dance on stage, and I will tip $1 to a good looking girl and invite her sit and talk to me. While we are talking, I assess her attitude. I expect her to pay attention to me and not her cell phone. If we have good natural chemistry, she is friendly, in a good mood, and shares some information about herself, then I will agree to negotiate a VIP session.
I know looks are subjective and standards of beauty are different for each guy. There are plenty of older, curvier, heavier, big breasted girls, heavily tattooed, pierced and girls wearing significant amounts of make up for those of you who like that.
Over 24 visits I spent time with 13 girls who passed both the looks and the attitude test. As always YMMV.
8 girls I enjoyed, I want to repeat, I suggest others try them and are likely to be happy with them.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Pussylicker2;5866967]From what I've read, not my personal experience, you can park on the street and walk to BT's, no problem, but at Landing Strip they'll ask for your keys even if you aren't parked on their lot. Taking an uber might avoid the problem, I'm not sure.[/QUOTE]They will ask to see your Uber app to prove that you were dropped off at the club. No joke. It's one of the reasons that I stopped going there, coupled with the GPS VIP.
I never been to any Detroit club during the day. What times do the ladies start showing up? I don't want to drive over an hour and get there too early just to end up waiting forever for dancers to show up. Any feed back is greatly appreciated and I will make a report on my experience.
[QUOTE=HornyInKalamaz;5868597]I never been to any Detroit club during the day. What times do the ladies start showing up? I don't want to drive over an hour and get there too early just to end up waiting forever for dancers to show up. Any feed back is greatly appreciated and I will make a report on my experience.[/QUOTE]Clubs open at noon and they have dancers there at noon. Later during the week it will be busier at most clubs.
Been a while, decided to stop in to both places this afternoon. Nothing over a 5 in either place except for sparkle a small black girl with a smoking little body at boggies.
Sad state of affairs going to have to try sc. Or fc next time out.
[QUOTE=JetSpray;5869318]Been a while, decided to stop in to both places this afternoon. Nothing over a 5 in either place except for sparkle a small black girl with a smoking little body at boggies.
Sad state of affairs going to have to try sc. Or fc next time out.[/QUOTE]Same here!
I moved south a couple years ago, but when I lived in the area I frequented the Detroit clubs quite a bit. I am back in town for a little while and it seems like the 8 miles clubs are all dead now. Are there any worth checking out anymore? Or is Inkster the only area to go to now? I am staying with a friend in Ferndale and the 8 mile clubs are much closer to me than the Mich Ave clubs.
Does anyone know which days or nights Kitty works at H8? Also, any info on her would be appreciated. PM is fine.
Thank you in advance.
I decided to do a tour of some clubs on Monday.
Started off at SC day shift, I like the place, its pretty chill and not too pretentious. I was expecting it to be slow since it was Monday and it was good weather but damn it was super slow, about 8-10 girls, most of them I would say at about a 5-6, couple of good ones such as Bianca or Cecilia but they were seating with their regulars so nothing happening there. I do have to say though that in my opinion the quality has gone down by a bit.
Left SC and went to BT's. There were a couple of good looking girls there but holy GPS, I mean again it was slow but this girl were quoting 500 for FS and 200 for BJ and I was only able to get them down to 300 and I will only spend 200 at a club, so nothing happening there either, so I left at the end of day shift.
Had some dinner and chilled and about 10 pm I decided to hit the 8 mile clubs, had not been there in a few months, started of at Tycoons, total waste of time, it was so slow the valet didn't even bother to come get my car, and good thing too since apparently valet was 20 bucks, I parked myself, got in, paid 20 cover charge and regrated it, no girls, like 5 guys there at the bar, I ordered a beer, stayed for 5 min and left, did not see any dancers there, not sure if there were any.
Next up was Coliseum, man I miss the way that place used to be, same thing there, super slow, 6 dancers and like 3 guys including me, I sat at the bar and of course couple of the girls came right over since there were not that many options, I did strike up a nice conversation with one of them and she was pretty cool to talk to (forgot her name), got a couple of dances with her since she was cool and went home about 1 am.
[QUOTE=Jp1225;5868198]Reviews I would recommend reading: This one.
Then there are all the rest. I think there should be no more reviews after MM's, just saying.[/QUOTE]Thanks Jp, I am just trying to give back to the group.
Information helps us all be better mongers and avoid bad sessions. I wanted to post more frequently during my trip but that didn't happen, I am very busy person.
When I first started there were 5 guys who used to post a lot but haven't posted for a few years now, they educated me on how to find a good peeler, and more importantly how to avoid rip off girls. Most guys (me included) are so horny we want to run into the VIP with the first female we find.
This was my most difficult year in a long time, as I had to spend so much time on negotiations, and passed on many more girls than I usually do, but I feel the effort was worth it as I only had 2 bed sessions out of 37. That is pretty good.
I should add that one night I left without finding any girl to take to the VIP, and even though I would typically spend 5 hours in the club, many nights I only did one session when I wanted to do 2 sessions. I spent so much time talking to girls trying to negotiate price points lower that by the time I fond one who agreed there wasn't enough time for me to complete my refractory period and get back in the VIP.
MM.