She text me today out of the blue. Any one know where she's been & is it safe to see her? She's been around a long time.
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She text me today out of the blue. Any one know where she's been & is it safe to see her? She's been around a long time.
I know she checked out the forum, so Janet, we miss you. She was def chill, and one of the best providers. Maybe she will return in the future. Either way, if not good for her. Last time I heard she was in jail, but she should have been out by now. Hope she is good.
[QUOTE=HornyAllDTime;2697901]Hey guys I'm new to the forum I've been reading for a while now and want to say thanks for the posts they are helpful. Big fan of hornyashell watched all your vids, they're great. I've probably been with almost all of the girls in your vids. I love picking up hotties and sometimes not so hotties, but you'll be surprised with they're skill. Want to say be careful I was just hit with the clap from some Puerto Rican girl on cranston st I don't remember her name (bad with them), but she's always around there and has massive melons.
P.S. I love interacting with the girls out here great way to get them to do a lot for nothing, anyway Janet used to be one of my favs she's a freak but also very chill. But Yea last someone told me she found a man and wasn't doing dates anymore although hard to imagine with her drive.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Wood1;2705802]She text me today out of the blue. Any one know where she's been & is it safe to see her? She's been around a long time.[/QUOTE]I'm not sure if I'd see her again. She was fun but her girlfriend has caused alot of drama. Last time I saw her the girlfriend pulled up and they started going at it.
Had work in the area, so had a look around Thursday and Friday nights. Empty Thursday, one pass along Cranston and Atwells. Friday it seemed there were a few things on offer, but struggled to get a pickup. Police presence was more like a police absence. When I finally scooped on Atwells, I sent her packing again since she looked far too masculine for my comfort. Eventually, I decided to try Elmwood, and found Nicole pretty much immediately by the Shell where Broad and Elmwood converge.
[QUOTE=Phillesh;2643350]Nicole. Large white girl, but head was pretty good. But when I was close to coming, she stopped and asked for more money. Total turnoff. But I'd repeat cause head was nice.[/QUOTE]This Nicole, for sure. Very large. And no looker, though early 20s I'd guess. But she sounded lucid, and was keen to offer a BJ when asked about what she was good at, so we went to a space of her choosing nearby. Amusingly, she was working on her waistline some more when I picked her up, eating a tub of Ben and Jerry's. And wouldn't let me try it. Asked for 40, told her I could manage 30 and she got on with it. She's basically a deepthroat monster hungry for sausage as a fat girl should be. Skills were a bit lacking, but she has an abundance of talent. Wasn't rushed, but could have got me there in less than half the time if she knew what she was doing a little better. During this, her hands were wandering, none too subtly, didn't concern me much since very little of value was within her reach. I don't carry much more than I plan to offer and put my wallet safely out the way, so all she found was another 10. Just told her she'd evidently already found her tip, which she deserved, tbh after she swallowed too. But if you pick her up, be well aware of what might happen. With frankly any girl for that matter. Tried to get digits, but struggled to find my phone, and she garbled her numbers anyway.
Well as you guys know I don't normally cruise for SW's however a few days ago I was on my way to see a girl we all know that does QV BBBJCIM. Unfortunately she wasn't available asap and I didn't have a lot of time so on my way down Cranston St. I see this chocolate girl that gives me the look so I drive by and pull right in to DD. She comes up to my vehicle and starts talking to me but doesn't ask me if I want to play so I tell her I don't have a lot of time and I am looking for just a BBBBJCIM QV. She says well I am not a SW but I do need money for rent. So I ask her how much and she says I could use 100 and she would do everything. She tells me she lives right there on Cranston, third floor apt, lives alone, and she had a nice cell better than mine. No sign of drugs or nothing so I tell her 50 for a BBBJCIM only and she says ok. She didn't know nothing, I tell her that means no condom and I finish in her mouth. So she says OMG I can't do that I would puke. I use a condom. So I say forget it so she says I will give you the BJ without the condom but you got to promise not to cum in my mouth. I say ok but I am not paying till you go thru with what you promise. I show her the 60 in my pocket, She says ok, takes me up to the third floor of her apt, no guy there nothing, brings me to her bedroom takes all her clothes off, decent looking girl, tall not fat, mid size, nice big natural tits with huge aereolas to suck on, never had kids, about 29 ish, calls herself Toni. Starts sucking it BB very shy no DT but keeps backing off afraid that I am going to blow in her mouth. A couple times she lays back on the bed like she wants to get fucked with no condom but that ain't happening. I pull her back up and tell her to keep going and finally she lets me blast all over those nice big tits but is seriously cum shy and no doubt would much rather fuck than do BJ's. She seemed clean and isn't too bad looking for anybody who wants to see her I think she would be great for fucking with a condom but not for me since she can't do CIM finish. She said I can share her digits with trusted guys and I can tell you what to say to get you right in the door pretty quick. Does anyone know this girl because she didn't strike me as being a pro or a SW. She just is too shy and doesn't seem to know the game well.
How do you guys manage the interaction when cops stop you and question why you are in a specific area?
Do they track how often you are in a specific area? Or keep a log? Etc.
[QUOTE=LongPapi;2714995]How do you guys manage the interaction when cops stop you and question why you are in a specific area?
Do they track how often you are in a specific area? Or keep a log? Etc.[/QUOTE]With all the inter-connected computers, I'd guess they do. But they have a wide latitude about who they stop and why, especially in known crime areas. With license plate readers, they don't need to stop you, to know who you are.
For me, if I have no legit reason to be in an area, I simply don't go. Not worth the potential hassle.
Hey guys I'm pretty new LOL but kinda a OG I'm actually intrested in your guys thought about which walker was the best in your opinion? I know mines 401 area.
[QUOTE=LongPapi;2714995]How do you guys manage the interaction when cops stop you and question why you are in a specific area?
Do they track how often you are in a specific area? Or keep a log? Etc.[/QUOTE]HAVE a reason for being where you are. Whether it's because you got hungry so pulled off the highway to find someplace to eat, or find a bathroom, or you are trying to find a local business (have one in the general area in mind), make sure you have your story straight. Boil your answer down to a single sentence don't make it detailed. If you were visiting a friend you don't have to name the friend or provide the address.
ALSO. Don't have a smart phone visible or have a smart phone mount on your dash. It's hard to claim you are lost or looking for an address if you have a smart phone sitting oout in plain site.
They'll try to intimidate you but you don't HAVE to answer any questions, that's the whole 'you have the right to remain silent' thing.
If they had evidence to arrest you they would, so unless your plate or sticker is expired or you did some idiot driving maneuver they are stopping you to intimidate you and see if you are dumb enough to incriminate yourself so they CAN arrest you. Don't do their job for them.
If you are all flustered and nervous they'll assume you are up to something, but they probably figured that before they stopped you and that is why they stopped you.
You'd be better off. If you have the balls for it. Being the one asking the questions. Initially ask the officer politely if there's a problem follow up and ask why you were stopped. He won't answer, ask him again when comes back after running your plates.
Once they've run your registration and checked your insurance they'll come back and try to get you to talk. Politely ask if you are free to go. They'll try to drill you and get you to incriminate yourself. If you want to tell them something tell them the reason you were in that neighborhood. Keep repeating you explanation keep it the same don't add details that might trip you up. Keep asking if you are free to go.
Eventually they'll either let you go (and probably tell you they don't believe you and that they don't want to see you in that neighborhood again) or arrest you, but unless you've said soemthing to incriminate yourself it's extremely unlikely they'll arrrest you, I wouldn't advise doing this for obvious reasons but even if you told them "I am cruising around looking for prostitutes" they don't have any actionable evidence you were doing that or were going to actually solicit prostitutes or give them money in exchange for sex.
Best way to not be in that situation is either not drive in areas known to be frequented by streetwalkers or keep a low profile by driving conservatively signalling when you turn staying under the speed limit etc and don't do things that will catch LE attention like driving up and down the same street or driving completely around a block in a circle or weaving in and out of all the back streets of a neighborhood. You are 1000% more memorable to a cop seeing you on a deserted side street than you are in traffic driving down a main street.
[QUOTE=iamioman;2716453]
even if you told them "I am cruising around looking for prostitutes" they don't have any actionable evidence you were doing that or were going to actually solicit prostitutes or give them money in exchange for sex.
[/QUOTE]Are you sure you're right about this statement? Are you a lawyer or have legal experience? It seems to me like they could charge you with criminal intent if you made that statement on the streets. Whether or not it sticks in a court of law or not is another story, but I feel they could take you in.
[QUOTE=LatinHunt;2716600]Are you sure you're right about this statement? Are you a lawyer or have legal experience? It seems to me like they could charge you with criminal intent if you made that statement on the streets. Whether or not it sticks in a court of law or not is another story, but I feel they could take you in.[/QUOTE]I specifically said it's NOT a good idea to tell a cop that, but unless you are on video saying it, there's NO evidence that you even said you were planning on soliciting. If you were dumb enough to say that and the cop is annoyed enough that he wants to deal with the paperwork of booking you, you just tell your attorney is "I never said that, the cop is lying" and there's no evidence of your intent.
Solicitation itself is a misdemeanor, but you didn't do that, so intent to solicit? That would have to be even significantly less serious, how is a judge is going to to take a misdemeanor case to trial where the case against the defendant is solely what a cop says you said? You could tell your attorney that's it's all just a misunderstanding you nervous and just trying to make a joke (because who would tell the police they were trying to break the law?) and the officer didn't get your humor and thought you were serious or you just tell your attorney you never said anything about soliciting that the cop was trying to get you to admit you were looking for prostitutes and you kept telling him no but he didn't believe you and is lying that you said anything about looking for prostitutes.
Like I said, NOT a good idea to tell a cop that, I was using it as extreme example of how a cop needs EVIDENCE of you doing something illegal to charge you with a crime and make it stick.
You driving down a street in a 'bad' neighborhood isn't evidence of illegal activity NOR of intent to do something illegal.
You don't have to prove in a court of law that you had a 'valid' reason for driving down the street, they have to prove that you had an illegal reason, but again. How are they going to prove that?
But can a cop wanting to hassle you bring you to the station and make things complicated for a short time? Of course, they can even shoot you repeatedly even if you don't threaten them (at least if you are black) so it's never a good idea to be rude or flip or sarcastic to a cop or give a cop attitude.
Cops stop you to see if you are doing anything wrong or they think you look suspicious. Don't give them anything to be suspicious about by telling them a rambling inconsistent story about why you are driving down the street, just comply with any orders they give you and answer the bare minimum of questions and ask why you were stopped and if you are free to go.
Anyone know where I can get some action around warwick? Really help alot. Thanks in advance.
[QUOTE=iamioman;2716453]Eventually they'll either let you go (and probably tell you they don't believe you and that they don't want to see you in that neighborhood again) or arrest you, but unless you've said soemthing to incriminate yourself it's extremely unlikely they'll arrrest you, I wouldn't advise doing this for obvious reasons but even if you told them "I am cruising around looking for prostitutes" they don't have any actionable evidence you were doing that or were going to actually solicit prostitutes or give them money in exchange for sex.[/QUOTE]Actually, that gives them probable cause to arrest you. Will it hold up in court, probably not, but it would be like saying you're in an area to sell crack cocaine. You get arrested and then it is dismissed in court when no drugs are found (assuming the cops don't plant it).
[QUOTE=TheGame05;2720739]Actually, that gives them probable cause to arrest you. Will it hold up in court, probably not, but it would be like saying you're in an area to sell crack cocaine. You get arrested and then it is dismissed in court when no drugs are found (assuming the cops don't plant it).[/QUOTE]Feel like I am repeating myself but since a few people seem to be fixating on half of one sentence in my original post and ignoring the rest of post and the rest of the original sentence, IT'S NEVER A GOOD IDEA TO TELL A COP YOU PLAN TO DO SOMETHING ILLEGAL.
OK?
As for "will it hold up in court" if you are charged solely on a cop's testimony that you said you were going to do something? Don't be ridiculous, no way it result in a conviction. Unless it's something like you telling a cop you are are going to commit a mass shooting AND your car is full of weapons and ammo and you have a m ap of your target, charging you with 'intent' isn't going to stand. In this case, charging you with intent to commit a MISDEMAEANOR? Have you EVER heard of that happening? Busts are for solicitation, not "intent to solicit". It's IMPOSSIBLE to prove intent based purely on another person's testimoney, even if the other person is a cop. If you are stopped with a known streetwalker in your car it's a better case but still hard to prove because you could have just given someone a ride, they can't prove why you are giving the person a ride. So convicting you of "intent to solicit" based on a cop saying you told him you were looking for prostitutes? Coudln't possibly stand up in court.
But for the record in case anyone gets the wrong takeaway from this. NEVER TELL A COP YOU ARE GOING TO DO SOMETHING ILLEGAL.
[QUOTE=TheGame05;2720739]Actually, that gives them probable cause to arrest you. Will it hold up in court, probably not, but it would be like saying you're in an area to sell crack cocaine. You get arrested and then it is dismissed in court when no drugs are found (assuming the cops don't plant it).[/QUOTE]I'm just an anonymous online idiot, but my view is that even if your arrest is dismissed or you never ever get to a courtroom, you've still been arrested, have a record and your job, family, friends will somehow find out (because they always do).
And you can say cops screwed me, blah, blah, blah, but only your buddies will agree with you and when their wives, girlfriends tell them no more sex if they continue hanging out with you, they'll drop out of sight too.
IMHO, its a wildly dangerous game (and fun) but if you get caught in any sense, it becomes wildly expensive money-wise, family-wise etc.
Good luck though.
4 days this week I've been out and about cruising the streets and I have not seen a single SW anywhere. I did early AM afternoon mid afternoon early evening and evening and nothing. I've done the elmwood.
Cranston loop the manton atwells loop and nothing. I'm getting worried are out SW's losing faith? Is Uncle working hard? Are some of you hogging all the action LOL.
[QUOTE=Ballininri;2724050]4 days this week I've been out and about cruising the streets and I have not seen a single SW anywhere. I did early AM afternoon mid afternoon early evening and evening and nothing. I've done the elmwood.
Cranston loop the manton atwells loop and nothing. I'm getting worried are out SW's losing faith? Is Uncle working hard? Are some of you hogging all the action LOL.[/QUOTE]Guess SW also have a life, probably making plans to spend with family and friends.
[QUOTE=JustNuttin;2724372]Guess SW also have a life, probably making plans to spend with family and friends.[/QUOTE]There were a handful even around Christmas time late night at the usual places on Cranston & Elmwood.
[QUOTE=MrMalecon;2732620]There were a handful even around Christmas time late night at the usual places on Cranston & Elmwood.[/QUOTE]I've been told that Valley academy and side streets behind shell on atwells are good spots.
I picked this girl on one of the known streets in the dream, and she did not deliver, made a huge scene in the vehicle. Almost got us pulled over by 5 O. Be careful, stay away. The streets have been very hot!
[URL]http://providence.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/country-girl-keep-u-coming-back-for-more/5302091[/URL]
[QUOTE=LongPapi;2742395]I picked this girl on one of the known streets in the dream, and she did not deliver, made a huge scene in the vehicle. Almost got us pulled over by 5 O. Be careful, stay away. The streets have been very hot!
[URL]http://providence.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/country-girl-keep-u-coming-back-for-more/5302091[/URL][/QUOTE]Wow! She use to be a cool chick to hang out with. She was staying at the notel out on rt. 6 in Johnston. Haven't seen her post in along time.
Thanks for the heads up.
[QUOTE=LongPapi;2742395]I picked this girl on one of the known streets in the dream, and she did not deliver, made a huge scene in the vehicle. Almost got us pulled over by 5 O. Be careful, stay away. The streets have been very hot!
[URL]http://providence.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/country-girl-keep-u-coming-back-for-more/5302091[/URL][/QUOTE]I know you don't tell any tales Long Papi but you're kidding right? I was the first guy to do a report on Country girl years ago before she was even working out of the sleeze motel on rt 146, then finally going to the Johnston sleeze motel. She started out with BBBJCIMWSTC and CFS. Then she got desperate and later decided to do BBFS which I did not partake in. Now she is a SW and you're saying she did not deliver? I stopped seeing her long ago because she falling fast and the only thing left she wouldn't put on the menu was anal. She looked like hell last year but believe it or not some of those old BP pics going back years ago, yes that is exactly how she looked back then and she was always fresh showered clean. She went to hell and kept getting worse so I stopped seeing her quite a while ago.
That's too bad. I have fond memories. She's been having serious health problems. Actually, she is still posting. Wonder where she's hosting though, because the location just says "Near Providence".
[URL]http://rhodeisland.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/country-girlsweet-n-sexy-ill-keep-u-coming-back-for-more/5245560[/URL]
[QUOTE=LongPapi;2742395]I picked this girl on one of the known streets in the dream, and she did not deliver, made a huge scene in the vehicle. Almost got us pulled over by 5 O. Be careful, stay away. The streets have been very hot!
[URL]http://providence.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/country-girl-keep-u-coming-back-for-more/5302091[/URL][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=CadillaCock;2742510]I know you don't tell any tales Long Papi but you're kidding right? I was the first guy to do a report on Country girl years ago before she was even working out of the sleeze motel on rt 146, then finally going to the Johnston sleeze motel. She started out with BBBJCIMWSTC and CFS. Then she got desperate and later decided to do BBFS which I did not partake in. Now she is a SW and you're saying she did not deliver? I stopped seeing her long ago because she falling fast and the only thing left she wouldn't put on the menu was anal. She looked like hell last year but believe it or not some of those old BP pics going back years ago, yes that is exactly how she looked back then and she was always fresh showered clean. She went to hell and kept getting worse so I stopped seeing her quite a while ago.[/QUOTE]I saw her ounce a long time ago. Since then I have been dating a girl so my monger events have been few and far between. Yes the time I had with her was BBFS and it was GREAT! Her attitude was awesome, I was made to feel like she was my best friend and to this day I hold her as a very good human being. If I did not have a girlfriend at the time she is one I would want. It is not often that such a great woman enters this industry and I would like to see her again. She is an awesome woman and I wish I were lucky enough to be the man she fell in love with. All I can say is she is permanent GF maternal! I think everyone should avoid this one because she is really wife material!
Am sure she delivered good service at one point, am glad she did. But as you guys know sometimes you get lucky, sometimes you don't.
I got unlucky screamed, threaten me to take her to her pimp.
Be careful out there, the streets have been very hot.
[QUOTE=Moonshiner;2742588]I saw her ounce a long time ago. Since then I have been dating a girl so my monger events have been few and far between. Yes the time I had with her was BBFS and it was GREAT! Her attitude was awesome, I was made to feel like she was my best friend and to this day I hold her as a very good human being. If I did not have a girlfriend at the time she is one I would want. It is not often that such a great woman enters this industry and I would like to see her again. She is an awesome woman and I wish I were lucky enough to be the man she fell in love with. All I can say is she is permanent GF maternal! I think everyone should avoid this one because she is really wife material![/QUOTE]
Her pimp? I know she has a bf. Didn't know about any pimp. She must have been posturing. I asked her about it and, of course, she denied it.
[QUOTE=LongPapi;2747059]Am sure she delivered good service at one point, am glad she did. But as you guys know sometimes you get lucky, sometimes you don't.
I got unlucky screamed, threaten me to take her to her pimp.
Be careful out there, the streets have been very hot.[/QUOTE]
There is this tall PAWG that walks the triangle daily (mostly atwells), usually mornings, she always has a great tan with long dark hair. If you have seen her you will immediately know who I am referring to. Her face is marked with tats to. She is easily a 7 or 8 . Anyway I have tried giving her the look many times but she doesn't respond. Can't tell if she thinks I am LE or she just a good looking civi. Anyone ran into her?
Whos the white lady walks with a limp.
[QUOTE=PaulGlenlivet;2747125]Her pimp? I know she has a bf. Didn't know about any pimp. She must have been posturing. I asked her about it and, of course, she denied it.[/QUOTE]She has also been posting on CLCE.
Yeah, she told me she posts on BP and CL, but denied street walking.
[QUOTE=VanillaPorter;2758543]She has also been posting on CLCE.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=LongPapi;2747059]Am sure she delivered good service at one point, am glad she did. But as you guys know sometimes you get lucky, sometimes you don't.
I got unlucky screamed, threaten me to take her to her pimp.
Be careful out there, the streets have been very hot.[/QUOTE]I am sure you are right. Time, drugs and bad boyfriends ruin many wonderful women.
[QUOTE=Ballininri;2758140]Whos the white lady walks with a limp.[/QUOTE]What she look like?
Tough to say without a better description (ie how tall? Hair color etc?) I know several that look like they have limps just from always being fucked up out there when they walk. Others have temporary walking issues if they just got beat up etc. We also have Kathy (but she's a HSW) that definitely has a bed leg (very obvious limp) and there are Pics of her in post #2485 to see if that's whom you mean.
[QUOTE=Ballininri;2758140]Whos the white lady walks with a limp.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=PaulGlenlivet;2742539]That's too bad. I have fond memories. She's been having serious health problems. Actually, she is still posting. Wonder where she's hosting though, because the location just says "Near Providence".
[URL]http://rhodeisland.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/country-girlsweet-n-sexy-ill-keep-u-coming-back-for-more/5245560[/URL][/QUOTE]She was at the Bel-Air Motor Inn on RTE 6 right off 295.
And I had a blast with her (but this was over a month ago).
After many months of reading and cruising, this newbie had his first successful scoop last night! And I must say, she was much more attractive than I anticipated my first SW would be. About 9:00 PM I got the look from WSW Jessica on Valley. Did a few loops around Delainne and there she was waiting. Looked good and smelled even better. She could sense I was nervous as it was my first time, and made sure to ease the tension. I wasn't in the mindset to negotiate, so. 4 BBBJ sounded good at the time. Very good at what she does, biggest mistake was forgetting to get the digits, because I would def scoop again. Now, hopefully I don't bring any surprises home to the wife. No longer a virgin fellas, thanks for the help.
[QUOTE=LongStroke401;2777282] I wasn't in the mindset to negotiate, so. 4 BBBJ sounded good at the time. Very good at what she does, biggest mistake was forgetting to get the digits, because I would def scoop again. [/QUOTE]Digits aren't a good idea in general, and especially if you're married. Even a beater phone will ultimately found by your SO. On the good side of your experience, not negotiating and settling for. 4 isn't the worst course of action for the first time. Sometimes it's so freaking aggravating arguing over. 1 or. 2 in the car. Yes, most will take. 2 but their attitude might not be the best. . 2 plus a tip for good service is the best plan if the girl is halfway coherent.
Can't wait for summer. I do the elmwood loop and the only ones I see are kathy with limp, amanda (she's a wreck now), mimi, og mary, joyce, michelle, julie, T, the chick with bright red hair, gilf, and lets not forget crazy ass britney. All vets. Summer is when the real cruising happens and best storys are made. Happy hunting.
Long time ghost figured it was time to join and post. So was doing the normal Cran Elm Broad loop around 10 ish. It was a busy night. There had to be at least 20 WSW out on Cran and Elm some were pretty good looking. Unfortunately I am only looking for BSW so I only saw 2 one was way to big and nasty the other was scooped as I did my LEO loop. Oh well hope some of you were out enjoying the ladies.
Met amanda on elmwood, said she usually stays around manton sicilian with drawn on eye brows, would recommend as last option as she rushed and no touchy touchy.
Like Gilligan's Island, it was a 3hr tour and it was pretty eventful. LEO presence was VERY heavy (easily over 20 and included both state and Prov) and they were running a sting as well. The lady I saw was well dressed for the cold weather when most SW's don't bother. They either jump into cars quick to warm up or call it a night once they get enough for a fix. This lady did neither and when anybody tried to scoop her she basically ignored them UNLESS they would talk to her thru the window and of course once they did if they were dumb and talked money for act etc they got pulled over very quickly. Most didn't make it a 100 yds.
Overall though, 2 tall skinny brunette SW's on Cranston st in addition to Jackie/Jasmine (cute but crazy teen brunette). Elmwood was loaded but most were GURLS and they were opposite the library. There was also 2 chunky HSW's between CG and the AZ.
Lastly Sherri (note: Sherri not Sherry two different girls) was out and about and now she has an apartment near the AZ which she prefers to use. I only agreed since I've known her for years but she is NOT a ripoff type. Her typical sloppy (soaking wet) cum swallowing bbbj. And at least she was polite enough to ask if I minded her taking a hit before she started even with it being her place. From prior experience I know she performs better afterwards so I had no problem.
P.S. For the guys asking about the caller ID app, I actually have 2 of them and both simply say caller id on them so all I can say is to search out caller id in the app store and see what is still there. One of them is MUCH better than the other since it does all numbers not just landlines.