General Reports

[QUOTE=Blake123; 1681774]George Carlin's perspective on prostitution.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1prYbbnDs7Q[/url][/QUOTE]Thanks for posting that classic on prostitution by George Carlin, the thinking man's humorist.

"[i]Why should it be illegal to sell something that's perfectly legal to give away? I can't follow the logic of that at all. Of all the things you can do to a person, giving someone an orgasm is hardly the worst thing in the world[/i]!"

Carlin was among America's best comedians at identifying and ridiculing absurdities.

[QUOTE=Hypo Luxa; 1666238]Not to change the subject, but this being the General section:

[url]http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/30/ron-jeremy-in-critical-condition-heart-aneurysm_n_2582953.html?ncid=edlinkusaolp00000003[/url]

Not a good predicted outcome. This is about as high of a mortality rate problem as you can have!

Everyone get in an extra stroke with your next provider visit in honor of Ron! The man who has fucked more beautiful women than most of us have ever fantasized about![/QUOTE]Because of the miracles of modern medicine, our hero Ron Jeremy is going to be back in the saddle again. Congratulations to Ron and to the doctors who successfully treated him.

From the TMZ website:

[quote]Ron Jeremy is finally out of the hospital and back on the prowl, telling TMZ doctors have finally cleared him to start bangin' chicks again after suffering an aneurysm near his heart last month.

It's nothing short of an XXX miracle, since Ron was listed in critical condition and required multiple emergency surgeries to save his life.

But yesterday, the porn legend was back on his feet and cruisin' around the Nokia Theater at L. A. Live with Bunny Ranch honcho Dennis Hof and a female companion.

Jeremy not only told us he's feeling great following the procedures, but he's already healthy enough to do what he does best, telling us:

"They said to me at the clinic, that if you can walk up two flights of stairs you're able to have sex, so I walked up two flights of stairs and 3 ADDITIONAL stairs."

Long live the Hedgehog.[/QUOTE]

As an older monger, I worry about YMMV a lot, so I use male pheromones to enhance the experience. I believe it works because young girls like me. Just spray some on your neck and go. I also use it for legitimate massages and it seems to warm the girl up a bit. Those of you with an SO should try it at home. See what kind of reaction she gives you. Get it at Vim and Vigor or Amazon.

[QUOTE=MillerTime808;1684444]The new Palama Korean Market in Kalihi is open for business. Shelves only about 1/2 full. As I was walking out, notice the cashier use to bar tend in PC KB "down under" Flamingos. She said "Hi" what you doing here? I said checking out the new store. Nice store, just give it time to stock up and fix the parking.[/QUOTE]Went yesterday to see who MillerTime was talking about. Did not recognize anyone, but the girl at the clothing stall and another young girl at the make up stall was cute. Grand opening will be early March.

Yeah, the parking really sucks there!

Braddahs. Be safe and drive akamai.

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I hope I don't sound too stupid, but can't help it if I do. How do I avoid getting a HJ instead of finishing in FS at AMPs? I am Asian, average in penis size, but end up getting a HJ about 50% of the time. How do I go about changing this? I can fuck for a long time when I want to (up to 1 hour straight) , but of course I don't want to do that. Many girls act as if I am "hurting" them and making them sore, so like a sucker I give up doing FS and wind up with HJ. Are most of the girls just "acting" so that they can take the easy way out? Am I a complete fool for letting them get away with this and wasting my money? Do you guys ignore them or tell them to stop faking soreness and just pump even HARDER? Does anyone else have a problem with finishing in FS and have to resort to HJ or even blue-balled and just go home? I am getting a little frustrated, so any advice is appreciated. Thanks.

Dude, that is odd. I think I've only been offered HJ-only service just once out of hundreds of visits. It's pretty simple: do not tip until after the deed. If she says she can only give a HJ, then leave with no tip. She'll get the message.

No be shame. I wish I can go 1 hour even if just one tine. Hehe. Serious! My brother-in-law is like that. His wife tells me that she's afraid to have sex. Solution- you need more than 1 hour with a provider and just take it slow and easy. Most woman don't really like pounding all the time. Most likely the woman would have to finish you with a combination if BJ and HJ. My brother-in-law tells me he has no choice but to have sex with his wife and then later finish with a call girl who is willing to blow him off till he comes. Unless he can find someone who would do Greek. He tells me he can cime most of the time when it's Greek.

I recommend you do the older providers. They usually more than willing to go a marathon with you. No pun intended but I wish I can trade places with you. I want most of all to satisfy my partner and I don't mind finish with a HJ. As long as they do a combinatiin of BJ and HJ together. BTW. BOBBY of Ichi does an awsome BJ and HJ combination. One of the best if not the best.

That is really strange about only getting HJ at an AMP. Are you in shape or overweight? Do you just start pounding away? AMP girls can see lots of clients in a 24 hour period, and it takes a toll on their pussy. If you saw someone really popular, they might have 8 or more guys in a day. If they get pounded hard by all of them, they are not going to survive. What works for me is to take it slow, then ramp up. Near the end, you are pounding away and the girl is fucking you back. It works for me, but I'm no spring chicken. Another thing to keep in mind is to treat the girl with respect, and not a piece of meat. When they feel comfortable and respected, they reciprocate. Be careful as this can backfire when the girl starts liking you, and wants to settle down with you.

[QUOTE=John Ross;1690157]That is really strange about only getting HJ at an AMP. Are you in shape or overweight? Do you just start pounding away? AMP girls can see lots of clients in a 24 hour period, and it takes a toll on their pussy. If you saw someone really popular, they might have 8 or more guys in a day. If they get pounded hard by all of them, they are not going to survive. What works for me is to take it slow, then ramp up. Near the end, you are pounding away and the girl is fucking you back. It works for me, but I'm no spring chicken. Another thing to keep in mind is to treat the girl with respect, and not a piece of meat. When they feel comfortable and respected, they reciprocate. Be careful as this can backfire when the girl starts liking you, and wants to settle down with you.[/QUOTE]I always start off in FS, but about 50% of the time, the girl actually tells me directly that she is sore and ask if she can do HJ. For example, I was fucking Monica (Kison) for about 30 minutes, and when I started to fuck her harder in DS, she said she was sore and told me she want to do HJ. (I used her as an example as many guys reported that they fucked her really long and hard and she took the pounding easily.) Anyway, I am a wimp and I allow them to do the HJ.

My question is, are most girls faking being sore so that they don't have to fuck for an extended amount of time or to prevent me from fucking hard? Or are they really sore for real, so I should cut them a little slack and try to be more understanding.

I did take bro Ocolumbo's advice not to go to AMPs so frequently and to space the visits apart. This did help me to nut most times now, whether in FS or HJ. I was just trying to see if people had similar experiences with girls who "claimed" they are sore, and what they did next. Whether they continued to fuck in FS until nutting no matter what, or let the girl do HJ.

[QUOTE=John Ross;1690157]AMP girls can see lots of clients in a 24 hour period, and it takes a toll on their pussy. If you saw someone really popular, they might have 8 or more guys in a day. If they get pounded hard by all of them, they are not going to survive. What works for me is to take it slow, then ramp up. Near the end, you are pounding away and the girl is fucking you back. It works for me, but I'm no spring chicken. Another thing to keep in mind is to treat the girl with respect, and not a piece of meat. When they feel comfortable and respected, they reciprocate. Be careful as this can backfire when the girl starts liking you, and wants to settle down with you.[/QUOTE]Ditto. I think this is spot on.

[QUOTE=Hilifter37; 1690163]I always start off in FS, but about 50% of the time, the girl actually tells me directly that she is sore and ask if she can do HJ. For example, I was fucking Monica (Kison) for about 30 minutes, and when I started to fuck her harder in DS, she said she was sore and told me she want to do HJ. (I used her as an example as many guys reported that they fucked her really long and hard and she took the pounding easily.) Anyway, I am a wimp and I allow them to do the HJ.

My question is, are most girls faking being sore so that they don't have to fuck for an extended amount of time or to prevent me from fucking hard? Or are they really sore for real, so I should cut them a little slack and try to be more understanding.

I did take bro Ocolumbo's advice not to go to AMPs so frequently and to space the visits apart. This did help me to nut most times now, whether in FS or HJ. I was just trying to see if people had similar experiences with girls who "claimed" they are sore, and what they did next. Whether they continued to fuck in FS until nutting no matter what, or let the girl do HJ.[/QUOTE]According to one study/survey, the average time it takes to ejaculate during intercourse is about 5.4 min. An Australian study had an average of 4 minutes. Of course that is an average. The old Kinsey study found 75% of men ejaculated in 2 minutes.

For the providers, maybe 4 to 5 minutes might be expected as a starting point for most mongerers. Anything past that probably will be a YMMV thing depending on the provider and how you are with her. If you think about it, the vagina has a delicate lining which I'm sure can get sore after several mongerers have been there and with constant condom use. Maybe in the provider's mind, guys who take 20 minutes will cause the same wear and tear as 5 mongerers that take only 4 minutes. Sometimes, I try to cum as fast as I can just to prove to myself that I can still do it within a couple of minutes. Other times, I prolong it till I'm ready or if one of those rare times that the provider is into it.

Maybe go for the less popular or new providers that don't get as much mileage as the popular ones? Sometimes condom choice can make a difference too. Or maybe get a real GF.

FS then finish with a HJ does happen, probably a lot more than we'd like. Depending on what time you went and if the girl was a popular one, I'm pretty sure she was sore or tired. You could try a place that is not as busy to see if this makes a difference. You could also try K at Tokyo Spa as she's usually good to go. I can take a long time to cum and can go for 40 minutes + on occasions. I was doing Cherry / Lisa for 40 minutes one time and she was tired and wanting for me to finish. She is another one that can go on and on and on, but sometimes she can be tired.

Now, regarding being sore, I'm sure it happens a lot. Think of it this way, I had a gf that had an insatiable sexual appetite and we went at it day and night when we first went out. I was exhausted, but she had lots of energy. There were times I had to tell her no more as my penis was too sore. Now, think if you were a woman and were fucking 8 times a day for 20+ days a month. I'm pretty sure she'd be sore, too.

[QUOTE=Idusixtyning;1690227]According to one study/survey, the average time it takes to ejaculate during intercourse is about 5.4 min. An Australian study had an average of 4 minutes. Of course that is an average. The old Kinsey study found 75% of men ejaculated in 2 minutes.[/QUOTE]Damn! 5. 4 minutes? 2 minutes? Guess all us guys on this site must be abnormal then haha

If I had sex 8x a day at 30 minutes a go (3hrs / day) my pecker would be pretty raw, so I can sympathize with the working girls. We wouldn't want them to get callouses down there!

[QUOTE=Vapor909;1690244]If I had sex 8x a day at 30 minutes a go (3hrs / day) my pecker would be pretty raw, so I can sympathize with the working girls. We wouldn't want them to get callouses down there![/QUOTE]That would be a little painful, thank God for KY and Astroglide!

5.4 minutes and 2 minutes is interesting as some providers told me about some customers that cum really fast, but I did not think that fast. The same providers told me some guys have a hard time getting it up and they have to try their hardest to get them off with a HJ. I ask them if the guys can't get it up, why come to an AMP?

[QUOTE=Vapor909;1690244]If I had sex 8x a day at 30 minutes a go (3hrs / day) my pecker would be pretty raw, so I can sympathize with the working girls. We wouldn't want them to get callouses down there![/QUOTE]Okay, I am convinced most girls are not "faking" soreness and I will continue to be a nice guy and give them a break. For example, when I demonstrated how hard I really like to fuck with my ATF Viv, she was scared. I used to do t-bar rows with eight 45 lb plates, and do grip work with COC grippers, so I should be more understanding or just stop going to AMPs altogether. I should also stop watching so much porn, as the actors / actresses look like they LUV fucking as hard as possible for a long extended amount of time. I am setting myself up for unrealistic expectations for my sessions with girls.

Never go home blue balled. And I never pay for a HJ. I just don't see the point of paying a provider for something I can do at home for free by myself. I agree with Hypo. If the girl insist on HJ it is usually a sign of her being lazy. Send her a message that you are not there to pay for HJ and tell her you want to continue FS. But yea I usually never get offered a HJ. I also find that if you are "turned" on by the girl and attracted to her you will never need the hand job. I think a lot of times guys here settle for the "second choice" girl that mama sends and are not really turned on. Then they have a hard time cumming in FS and usually settle for the HJ. Believe me if the girl really turns you on and you are extra horny you won't need the HJ. I think personally that you are just going through the motions with some of these girls. Save your money for the girls that you are really really attracted to. I think you are fucking just to be fucking. You can't be a horndog banging every pant leg you see.

Civilbeat has intresting article on crime.

What has happen to Mcduck haven't heard from that guy for awhile

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[QUOTE=DaViper;1692332]What has happen to Mcduck haven't heard from that guy for awhile[/QUOTE]

Yes I know to each his own but sometimes I just don't see what the hype is about. I'm not going to mention any names don't want to hurt anybody's feelings but I must say I visited the 3 plex and wanted to see what the hype was all about and I was disappointed. Yes this is my opinion but Once again wIth all the hype about this person there is no comparison to the likes of Chanelle, Yuri, Nara. Once again only my opinion but I do agree this person is or looks very young.

[QUOTE=DaViper;1694325]Yes I know to each his own but sometimes I just don't see what the hype is about. I'm not going to mention any names don't want to hurt anybody's feelings but I must say I visited the 3 plex and wanted to see what the hype was all about and I was disappointed. Yes this is my opinion but Once again wIth all the hype about this person there is no comparison to the likes of Chanelle, Yuri, Nara. Once again only my opinion but I do agree this person is or looks very young.[/QUOTE]I kind of know who you are talking about and I agree with you.

[QUOTE=Hilifter37;1690442]Okay, I am convinced most girls are not "faking" soreness and I will continue to be a nice guy and give them a break. For example, when I demonstrated how hard I really like to fuck with my ATF Viv, she was scared. I used to do t-bar rows with eight 45 lb plates, and do grip work with COC grippers, so I should be more understanding or just stop going to AMPs altogether. I should also stop watching so much porn, as the actors / actresses look like they LUV fucking as hard as possible for a long extended amount of time. I am setting myself up for unrealistic expectations for my sessions with girls.[/QUOTE]You can never compare real life to porn. In porn, the action may appear continuous but look even casually and the do a lot of creative editing. A 30 minute scene will actually have only 10 minutes of new action. The same action will be repeated several times with several different camera angle. Many times the same angle and and action will keep repeating itself.

Viv cannot take a pounding. Jackie / Juli would fuck me hard, very hard and for long long time. She so sweet, put she can pound. Find the pro that can take your dick and it will be just fine. Plenty Korean pro no like big dicks so the like the tourist, LOL, at least thats what they tell me.

Lucky / Penny was the ultimate hard fuck. Just go find one get plenty out there. Sky fucks pretty hard for a tiny pro. Pie will pound you too, and she is very loud, LOL.

Popular pro 35-40 +fuck a week with no problem. No problem at all. That's why the popular they can rebound, hehe. Biggest "problem" is that pro cannot cum after couple days Most pro tell me-including Julie Chanel and Nara-they don't cum after first couple days back from vacation. Its all an act.

WTF, they are there for you to cum.

Get plenty indies out there too that will pound pretty good-more so than AMP pros. Like Nikki-she can pound pound pound. Did you ever have her? Don't even know if she still around.

[QUOTE=Hilifter37;1690442]Okay, I am convinced most girls are not "faking" soreness and I will continue to be a nice guy and give them a break. For example, when I demonstrated how hard I really like to fuck with my ATF Viv, she was scared. I used to do t-bar rows with eight 45 lb plates, and do grip work with COC grippers, so I should be more understanding or just stop going to AMPs altogether. I should also stop watching so much porn, as the actors / actresses look like they LUV fucking as hard as possible for a long extended amount of time. I am setting myself up for unrealistic expectations for my sessions with girls.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Ingwa;1694417]You can never compare real life to porn. In porn, the action may appear continuous but look even casually and the do a lot of creative editing. A 30 minute scene will actually have only 10 minutes of new action. The same action will be repeated several times with several different camera angle. Many times the same angle and and action will keep repeating itself.[/QUOTE]True, that's why I love straight raw shoot nothing rehearsed, just straight sex, clips usual done 15-20 mins, most if the time it cross fades to the money shot cause the male actor has a hard time cumming right away, so they fade (fast forward) and show him cumming on the girl. Oral sex takes most of the time in the clip.

[QUOTE=Jbravo; 1694604]Jackie / Juli would fuck me hard, very hard and for long long time.

Lucky / Penny was the ultimate hard fuck. Just go find one get plenty out there. Sky fucks pretty hard for a tiny pro. Pie will pound you too, and she is very loud, LOL.

Get plenty indies out there too that will pound pretty good-more so than AMP pros. Like Nikki-she can pound pound pound. Did you ever have her? Don't even know if she still around.[/QUOTE]Besides Viv's face, I really like Julie's face, so I have not been able to pound her hard yet. Same goes for Million. I guess I am such a sucker for pretty faces, that I don't want to make them feel uncomfortable or sore and make them mad at me. I did not have a chance to have a session with Lucky / Penny, so I don't know. Sky told me to be tender with her and not rough like a lot of the other guys she sees. Again, I did what I was asked. Pie was very good, but got tired in one position (DS) and her back was bothering her, so cut it short as well. Maybe a repeat with her is in order to properly assess.

Nikki Sweet was my original ATF and I only went to her repeatedly, before I ever visited an AMP. I would schedule multiple hour sessions with her, including 3 hours a few times and threesomes. Like you said, she can pound and don't mind very hard pounding as well. So that is why I thought every girl would be like Nikki at the AMPs. It shocked me at first when I was told at AMPs to stop pounding because the girl was sore, since Nikki never asked me to stop, even in 3 hour sessions. Since I try to limit repeating, it is a crap shoot as to what level of service and pounding the NEXT girl at the AMP will be able to handle. Maybe that is the fun part of it, like Forrest Gump says "you never know what you're going to get"! Happy mongering.

[QUOTE=Hilifter37; 1694846]Besides Viv's face, I really like Julie's face, so I have not been able to pound her hard yet. Same goes for Million. I guess I am such a sucker for pretty faces, that I don't want to make them feel uncomfortable or sore and make them mad at me. I did not have a chance to have a session with Lucky / Penny, so I don't know. Sky told me to be tender with her and not rough like a lot of the other guys she sees. Again, I did what I was asked. Pie was very good, but got tired in one position (DS) and her back was bothering her, so cut it short as well. Maybe a repeat with her is in order to properly assess.

Nikki Sweet was my original ATF and I only went to her repeatedly, before I ever visited an AMP. I would schedule multiple hour sessions with her, including 3 hours a few times and threesomes. Like you said, she can pound and don't mind very hard pounding as well. So that is why I thought every girl would be like Nikki at the AMPs. It shocked me at first when I was told at AMPs to stop pounding because the girl was sore, since Nikki never asked me to stop, even in 3 hour sessions. Since I try to limit repeating, it is a crap shoot as to what level of service and pounding the NEXT girl at the AMP will be able to handle. Maybe that is the fun part of it, like Forrest Gump says "you never know what you're going to get"! Happy mongering.[/QUOTE]Damn. I envy you to the max. Me and my 2". Sad.

[QUOTE=Bowah57;1695099]Damn. I envy you to the max.[/QUOTE]Speaking for myself ONLY, being single and mongering makes me feel like a loser sometimes. I wish I had a SO like you and only monger on the side. Many of the girls I see ask where I hid my wedding ring. I tell them I am a loser and show them my ring finger that has no untanned ring mark for proof. LOL.

Hey guy's does anyone know if this chick puts out? [url]https://www.facebook.com/pages/Angel-Holly/176354235775447?id=176354235775447&sk=photos_stream[/url] [url]https://www.facebook.com/pages/Angel-Holly/176354235775447?id=176354235775447&sk=photos_stream[/url]

[QUOTE=Always A Noob; 1692337]"ATTENTION HONOLULU POSTERS.

"Effective immediately, posters in the Honolulu forum are prohibited from criticizing, complaining about

"or discussing other forum members."[/QUOTE]The Duck is probably McFucking all the spinners right now. The Super Monger had great intel and did not hesitate to share his wives. He is a great asset to the forum and I miss his humor too.

[QUOTE=Asstro;1696238]The Duck is probably McFucking all the spinners right now. The Super Monger had great intel and did not hesitate to share his wives. He is a great asset to the forum and I miss his humor too.[/QUOTE]Never thought I will miss anyone but I missed all his post. They were valuable info. With his post, I can walk into a parlor abd ask for the provider and knew exactly what to expect. If it turn out better, that's a plus. Slooge neva wrong YET.

Splooge, if you reading this " why you no post any more" BTW. U mind if I sample Linda? Hehe.

[QUOTE=Bowah57; 1696887]Never thought I will miss anyone but I missed all his post. They were valuable info. With his post, I can walk into a parlor abd ask for the provider and knew exactly what to expect. If it turn out better, that's a plus. Slooge neva wrong YET.

Splooge, if you reading this " why you no post any more" BTW. U mind if I sample Linda? Hehe.[/QUOTE]I'm pretty sure Jackson banned him. I saw several warnings issued before he disappeared.

[QUOTE=Bowah57; 1696887]Never thought I will miss anyone but I missed all his post. They were valuable info. With his post, I can walk into a parlor abd ask for the provider and knew exactly what to expect. If it turn out better, that's a plus. Slooge neva wrong YET.

Splooge, if you reading this " why you no post any more" BTW. U mind if I sample Linda? Hehe.[/QUOTE]Had nothing against the guy, but IMO a lot of his posts were either exaggerated or pointless. Towards the end his posts basically were just fantasys with youtube vids and if not bashing others (although some deserved it). Wouldn't mind the fantasys as much if it were just posted in the proper thread. But the one thing he was always right about was he knew the hot ones.

[QUOTE=Blade82;1697249]Had nothing against the guy, but IMO a lot of his posts were either exaggerated or pointless. Towards the end his posts basically were just fantasys with youtube vids and if not bashing others (although some deserved it). Wouldn't mind the fantasys as much if it were just posted in the proper thread. But the one thing he was always right about was he knew the hot ones.[/QUOTE]He also started withholding names and locations in his reviews, which equaled pointless as well. But yeah, when he was reviewing and not posting his songs, LOL, he was a good resource.

[QUOTE=Hypo Luxa;1697346]He also started withholding names and locations in his reviews, which equaled pointless as well. But yeah, when he was reviewing and not posting his songs, LOL, he was a good resource.[/QUOTE]I liked this post and relied on them too. He seemed to frequent AMPs a lot and I thought he was vague to hide his identity. I once posted about my ATF and she knew it was me. I used to see a lot of mongers eye me up at AMPs and watch who I visited. Made me nervous about reporting. You know who I'm talking about, because you're probably the guy. LOL.

[QUOTE=PoiPounder;1698797]I liked this post and relied on them too. He seemed to frequent AMPs a lot and I thought he was vague to hide his identity. I once posted about my ATF and she knew it was me.[/QUOTE]Understood. It's cool if you don't want to be outted to the girl. But, the "bro rules" here are that if you decide not to disclose names, then it's better not to post at all because it does the readers no good to hear of a session with no reference to who it is. It then becomes bragging.

[QUOTE=PoiPounder;1698797]I used to see a lot of mongers eye me up at AMPs and watch who I visited. Made me nervous about reporting. You know who I'm talking about, because you're probably the guy. LOL.[/QUOTE]Wait, are you insinuating something about me, or is this a general reference to others reading? I do not know who you are and do not eye up other mongers at AMPs.

[QUOTE=Hypo Luxa;1699217]Wait, are you insinuating something about me, or is this a general reference to others reading? I do not know who you are and do not eye up other mongers at AMPs.[/QUOTE]LOL. What are you guys getting upset for. Just for the record I thought it was courtesy to look the other way as we seen other mongers in the AMPs. We are there for one thing amd not to make friends w other mongers. Well I take it back I did nake friends once. LOL

[QUOTE=PoiPounder;1698797]I liked this post and relied on them too. He seemed to frequent AMPs a lot and I thought he was vague to hide his identity. I once posted about my ATF and she knew it was me. I used to see a lot of mongers eye me up at AMPs and watch who I visited. Made me nervous about reporting. You know who I'm talking about, because you're probably the guy. LOL.[/QUOTE]But another for the record, I get outed sometimes by AMP girls as reporting this and that and guess what. The AMP girl was always wrong. I once got labled as a dude who uses viagra and I never used once in my life. Haha such is life.