OC Vietnamese coffee shops

It made fox news. Guess the end could be near.

[URL]https://www.foxla.com/news/garden-grove-dd-cafe-coffee-shop-strip-club?link_source=ta_first_comment&taid=6986d60d20502e0001afd1bc[/URL]

So are coffee shops a no go for now? Was looking forward for this weekend as it will be one of the rare days I will be in the area to enjoy this treat again but news seems bad.

[QUOTE=KevlarProof;7522535]It made fox news. Guess the end could be near.

[URL]https://www.foxla.com/news/garden-grove-dd-cafe-coffee-shop-strip-club?link_source=ta_first_comment&taid=6986d60d20502e0001afd1bc[/URL][/QUOTE]Wow. That fox video is bad for the other shops.

[QUOTE=NotHobbyPro;7522566]So are coffee shops a no go for now? Was looking forward for this weekend as it will be one of the rare days I will be in the area to enjoy this treat again but news seems bad.[/QUOTE]After watching that fox video, I don't see how the other girls would be willing to go nude. But whoever goes, please post a report.

[QUOTE=GreenMount28;7522326]Reminds me of that meme video Where the guy goes into the Cafe for "gambling" and is like there's not gambling just coffee. LOL. Think it was Lu but we know it ain't gambling Or Coffee. I've seen a lot of other tiktoks about Lu over the years and those never triggered anything. My suspicion is I think there was a post on reddit by some chick who used to work there but its deleted now.[/QUOTE]You mean this one haha.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhtMVQJysdY[/URL]

[QUOTE=KevlarProof;7522303]Everyone saying some tiktoker ratted them out. She made it sound like its a full blown strip club and a customer was getting serviced etc.

Here's the GGPD post.

[URL]https://www.instagram.com/p/DUZ0M7VkYrf/?img_index=1[/URL][/QUOTE]Someone invite Mikey to this chat. Can't believe they allow homie to vlog inside of DD and Cafe Lu lmao.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxwRWDw33mU[/URL]

[QUOTE=IrvineResident;7522713]After watching that fox video, I don't see how the other girls would be willing to go nude. But whoever goes, please post a report.[/QUOTE]Sheeeeett, I bet guy in the vid tried to be creepy and got turned down, and now he's ruining it for everyone.

Just FYI, DD got raided. Their IG has gone private for a few days now.

[QUOTE=XCoreFlyUp2021;7524075]Just FYI, DD got raided. Their IG has gone private for a few days now.[/QUOTE]It was sad to see an empty parking lot at DDs on a Saturday night. I can't find their IG anymore either, their stories were 🔥

DD's insta went private a few days before the raid and looks like it's deactivated for now. 168 and 368 removed any pics they had of girls, looks like word is spreading around.

[QUOTE=UciMagic;7524126]It was sad to see an empty parking lot at DDs on a Saturday night. I can't find their IG anymore either, their stories were 🔥[/QUOTE]Sad indeed. I am a long time regular. Been going since it was Girlz cafe. Victoria has a great killer body. I got a lap dance from Joyce on the night before my professional exam and I pass!

Nataly remains 1 of the hottest latina I have ever met. We know each other kinda well. Also, hot blonde rachel was smoking. And me and ex used to go together.

Too many memory.

[QUOTE=A1287;7524131]DD's insta went private a few days before the raid and looks like it's deactivated for now. 168 and 368 removed any pics they had of girls, looks like word is spreading around.[/QUOTE]So the past few days QTK and DD shutdown WTF is going on?

[QUOTE=NotHobbyPro;7522566]So are coffee shops a no go for now? Was looking forward for this weekend as it will be one of the rare days I will be in the area to enjoy this treat again but news seems bad.[/QUOTE]No more cowboy riding in one of those booth. Time to find another shop!

Was anybody getting extras at dd? Wonder if that played a part.

Went to the cafes for superbowl.

168 - seems to be extra cautious right now, no dances anywhere and didn't even get nude / topless for refills, (still able to touch / graze when tipping).

Honestly although this is the "old" business model aint no way they can keep up with the "no dances" it was such EZ money.

Starz. Probably the most ratchet of cafes and dances nude (with robe) still prevlaent, girls are still mid, refills / dances take wayyy too long when a popular girl is up, so getting a whole rotatiion of girls refilling probably take a few hours. I believe I saw someone go in back for dances as well.

368 - Still dances / topless are prevalent, girls are better than Starz.

After seeing dances being like $20 (table) at Starz /368 crazy at how much simps yall are when DD was charging 40 reg, 60 topless, and 80 nude. Like 80 for less than 5 min is CRIMINAl.

168 also charged crazy prices 50/60 granted at least there was a room.

Yeah you're paying for a premium of the "creme of the crop girls" its still crazy and not sure if justifying 2 x /3 x the price. Also most of the creme of the crop girls are gone sadly.

[QUOTE=YoungGun714;7524817]Was anybody getting extras at dd? Wonder if that played a part.[/QUOTE]They mention private room in new video, but pretty sure that doesn't exist and is FAKE NEWS, only sort of extra that would have been had would be in restroom or slight handy (if that even occurred).

Main reason it shut down was the "nudity which you get fined for," being in close proximity of a school is CRAZY, alcohol rules, and city guidelines in general.

[QUOTE=Hornilius69;7524697]No more cowboy riding in one of those booth. Time to find another shop![/QUOTE]

I used to write strip club reviews and guides, and if you want high mileage dances you can try [B]City of Industry[/B]. Strip clubs have dayshift and nightshift, typically night shift gets busy starting 9pm or 10pm.

If you just want straight dances with hot girls, then COI Spearmint Rhino. Last I went it's 20 a regular dance or 40 for a nude dance. It's a licensed strip club, all legal. You can also get a curtained private booth, the rates very by the day of the week you go. But a special rate would be 100 for 10 mins, full nude. You can also get a private room with a door that closes and the room and music volume can be adjusted by the room. Again the rate varies by the day but for example 220 for 30 mins. You can get legit dances at SR, of course some girls might ask what you want for tips.

For more, you could try Synn. But I'll emphasize that for straight dances, go SR. Since girls at Synn will upsell you. Also, Synn specifically hires skinny petite girls of all races. 50% of the girls are Team Seven, it's jarring. Among the general population, Team Seven is maybe 5% of girls (petite and skinny girls).

Since the target audience of this thread is for guys who want straight dances, consider SR. If you want even hotter girls and to maybe even talk with them, rather than get high mileage dances, San Diego has the very hottest girls at Cheetah's. It is a clean club where you can get straight dances. The girls are hot and classy with good manners, which is very unusual for a strip club.
[URL]https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?5030-Strip-Club-Reports&p=7109096&viewfull=1#post7109096[/URL] [B]Socal Strip Club Summary[/B]
[URL]https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?5030-Strip-Club-Reports&p=7156844&viewfull=1#post7156844[/URL] [B]Cheetah's SD guide[/B] (see photos)
[URL]https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?37371-White-Girls-in-the-818&p=7168461&viewfull=1#post7168461[/URL] [B]City of Industry Guide[/B] (see photos)
[URL]https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4826-Strip-Club-Reports[/URL] [B]City of Industry Thread[/B]
[URL]https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?5030-Strip-Club-Reports&p=7168421&viewfull=1#post7168421[/URL] Cheetah's replies
[URL]https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?5030-Strip-Club-Reports&p=7026691&viewfull=1#post7026691[/URL] Cheetah's commentary

I've warned so many people to stick to just Spearmint Rhino and Synn at COI, and Cheetah's in SD. Skip OC strip clubs entirely. People invariably learn the hard way, the other clubs don't have as many hot girls. Hot girls gravitate to specific clubs. Some clubs like COI Paradise specialize in fat girls (I am not joking). Here, I even reviewed it:

[QUOTE=Download X;7296175]One dancer who switched from Paradise to SR told me straight up there are a ton of thick girls there. Not the best faces imo either. On both Tuscl and here I reviewed Paradise long ago, the first girl I saw was a 350 pound stripper. She crawled up to the one guy at the rail and turned around so he could slap her ass hard. It echoed. I never forget such a unique experience not possible at other clubs.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Download X;7083679]Paradise is the saddest COI club, it is full of thick or lower-tiered girls who beg (best way to describe it) for tips in VIP. This is different from Synn or Spearmint Rhino where there is actual two-sided negotiation with a sexy girl.[/QUOTE]

Unlike korgs, the photos I attached in my Cheetahs guide are 100% accurate with zero filter. The girls look exactly like the photos I posted - for strippers I won't bother with anything but exact photos. However, it's been a few years so I'm sure some girls have changed. I quit writing strip club guides a while ago but the guide itself is still relevant. I did give some hints to the COI guys to check out OC scene, so occasionally a familiar face shows up:
[URL]https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?33105-Hot-Young-Asian-Girls-in-OC&p=7491683&viewfull=1#post7491683[/URL] Cora 1
[URL]https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?33105-Hot-Young-Asian-Girls-in-OC&p=7493695&viewfull=1#post7493695[/URL] Cora 2
[URL]https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?33105-Hot-Young-Asian-Girls-in-OC&p=7494263&viewfull=1#post7494263[/URL] Cora 3

As a bonus, attached is what a Team Seven White girl looks like at COI. COI has a fair share of hot young White girls. It's easy to get addicted when you randomly walk in and find one. You know you are overpaying, but once in a while you get White Fever and it's the only cure so I'll drag myself to COI or Cheetah's.

[QUOTE=DownloadX;7525159]I used to write strip club reviews and guides, and if you wan.[/QUOTE]Man, I miss [URL]Zbone.com[/URL].

But, I was younger then.

That's too bad DD Cafe got shut down. I kinda wanted to go to see what all the hype was about.

I checked out 168 last night after the Superbowl. When I came in there was a girl at that southern table near the door of the cafe, probably as a lookout for suspicious people coming in during fillup rounds.

Everyone was a bit more low key. There were some table dances but they weren't topless. I saw Helen kept her top on the entire time while giving table dances, which I've never seen her do. I saw some of the girls during their tea fill-up rounds topless and mainly just pulled their tops to the sides for easy cover up or just did their rounds clothed. No one used that back room for privates the time I was there.

I appreciate the strip club write up. I haven't been to COI Strip Clubs since Deja Vu COI and Hawaii Theatre closed.

Nowadays, I like coffee shops because it fills that niche just above a breastaurant or a bikini bar where I can openly perv on women and guaranteed to see more tits. And I don't have to get anything more than a drink to enter and not be hassled to buy the girls a drink or get a dance like at a strip club.

As a bonus, 168 can be less than 15 minutes away from me.

[QUOTE=DownloadX;7525159]I used to write strip club reviews and guides, and if you want high mileage dances you can try [B]City of Industry[/B]. Strip clubs have dayshift and nightshift, typically night shift gets busy starting 9pm or 10pm.

If you just want straight dances with hot girls, then COI Spearmint Rhino. Last I went it's 20 a regular dance or 40 for a nude dance. It's a licensed strip club, all legal. You can also get a curtained private booth, the rates very by the day of the week you go. But a special rate would be 100 for 10 mins, full nude. You can also get a private room with a door that closes and the room and music volume can be adjusted by the room. Again the rate varies by the day but for example 220 for 30 mins. You can get legit dances at SR, of course some girls might ask what you want for tips.[/QUOTE]COI aint it. Cover fee of sometimes $25, $10 for a water, and absolutely no way to relax. Constant harrasment over drinks and dances.

I wanted to gather good intel before posting. I went to 168 on 02/08 around 2 pm and girls were serving tea nude. Today at 168, everyone is covered up and no nudity during fill up. I think I'm done for now until someone posts a bettter update.

[QUOTE=MrCobbyAbish;7527332]COI aint it. Cover fee of sometimes $25, $10 for a water, and absolutely no way to relax. Constant harrasment over drinks and dances.[/QUOTE]

This was Synn, wasn't it? Synn has a drink requirement, it sucks, but it's part of the cost. Last I went it was discounted $15 entry and $7 water. Spearmint Rhino otoh there's no drink requirement, and most people don't get any. Cheetah's gives you two drinks free. It is cheap and chill despite having by far the hottest girls.

So if your goal is to relax with no pressure, go the other direction to Cheetah's in SD. Especially Friday or Saturday night after 10pm. It's packed like a party and both stages open, so you can see either stage depending on which girl you want to see naked. The DJ will call out the name ahead of time, and sometimes a girl will rotate from back stage to front stage so you can watch her twice. Whereas, if you show up Sun-Thu it's more chill and not packed, but it means girls will stop by and talk with you. Cheetah's girls are pretty classy and most are low pressure. On a slow night many girls will chat with you 10 or 20 minutes before even asking for a dance. If you aren't into a girl, tell her you just want to watch stage and they'll get the hint and move on.

Cheetah's is a place you can take friends and family to. 10% of customers are women, that's how welcoming it is. It is wholesome fun, the girls are hot, you can just look at hot girls in every direction walking around. I once saw a school bus of Catcholic high school boys turned 18 pull up and they all sat up against the rail with their mouths agape. Still wearing their school uniforms. Cheetah's has that clean and safe of a rep, it is just wholesome nudity. Whereas, Synn is all single guys and half the strippers are Team Seven of every race. It is a maximum mileage club. Nobody wants their friends to know they went to Synn.

People don't go to Synn to relax, they go there to bang. I was taken aback my first visit. I reviewed Synn Safari who was the first girl I met there years ago. She was a very hot Asian so I tossed some 1s on stage and we chatted during her stage. The stage is very well lit so you get to see it all, every pussy in detail inches from your face if you sit at rail and throw a few ones. Later, I sat back at my table and she stops by, asks if she can sit on my lap. I'm into her so we chat and I ask if I can get a VIP with her. But this is Synn so she asks if I'm just getting a VIP or if I'm gonna tip and bang her. I wasn't committed to that so I tell her I'd just like to start with a dance. She immediately hops of my lap and said "I don't do dances" and walks off! I later learned she was a full time escort but worked Synn to pick up extra business. Synn is for banging, it is a nonstop fuck fest..

So in order of least relaxing to most relaxing: Synn, Spearmint Rhino, Cheetah's. If you are into fat chicks, Paradise.

I'm posting this here since there is a refugee crisis from Viet coffee shops for a while, but there are options. So, some photos. Some come straight from the club's ads if you want more samples. First two are Cheetah's Sabrina, a Team Seven White girl. Solid service dances in the back, high service for Cheetah's. Next is SR Cora, a Team Seven SEA Asian girl. Pretty cool girl, expensive. Next is Cheetah's Faye, she cures my White Fever every now and then. Many of these girls have or had OF, best to ask them yourself if you get a dance. If not, IG is the way to go. Next is a DDD tits White girl, SR Candy. Extremely high service, former porn star, next level nympho. I remember her VIP well, so I'll first explain that at Spearmint Rhino there are three levels of booths with the highest level being an actual room. The rooms don't lock for safety, but they have a sofa and a sofa chair. Candy straight up barricated the door using the chair the moment we got in, then asked what she could do for me. Well..

Next is Nami who resembles Rose from Blackpink. I asked her for a dance and she said sure but she promised someone else a dance first. Basically there was regular after regular pulling her into the back to bang her ahead of me in line. This is one of a few downsides to strip clubs. I found Fendi and took her instead. Last attachment is of Athena, and it shows off how the Rhino room is. There's plenty of room to get things done, but notice the black box on the wall. It opens up to control the lights and music volume, use it if needed. There is a mirror in each room and full sofa as well. Athena is sitting on a sofa chair, the same one used to barricade the door. Athena was actually my 2nd COI stripper after Melanie. Yes, that Melanie.

All I'm saying is if you are dead set on getting dances, there are options. SR for best full nude dances, Synn for more, Cheetah's for less but high tier White girls.

[QUOTE=DownloadX;7528302]This was Synn, wasn't it? Synn has a drink requirement, it sucks, but it's part of the cost. Last I went it was discounted $15 entry and $7 water. Spearmint Rhino otoh there's no drink requirement, and most people don't get any. Cheetah's gives you two drinks free. It is cheap and chill despite having by far the hottest girls.

So if your goal is to relax with no pressure, go the other direction to Cheetah's in SD. Especially Friday or Saturday night after 10pm. It's packed like a party and both stages open, so you can see either stage depending on which girl you want to see naked. The DJ will call out the name ahead of time, and sometimes a girl will rotate from back stage to front stage so you can watch her twice. Whereas, if you show up Sun-Thu it's more chill and not packed, but it means girls will stop by and talk with you. Cheetah's girls are pretty classy and most are low pressure. On a slow night many girls will chat with you 10 or 20 minutes before even asking for a dance. If you aren't into a girl, tell her you just want to watch stage and they'll get the hint and move on.

Cheetah's is a place you can take friends and family to. 10% of customers are women, that's how welcoming it is. It is wholesome fun, the girls are hot, you can just look at hot girls in every direction walking around. I once saw a school bus of Catcholic high school boys turned 18 pull up and they all sat up against the rail with their mouths agape. Still wearing their school uniforms. Cheetah's has that clean and safe of a rep, it is just wholesome nudity. Whereas, Synn is all single guys and half the strippers are Team Seven of every race. It is a maximum mileage club. Nobody wants their friends to know they went to Synn.[/QUOTE]Yeah well people go to coffee shops to CHILL. $15 at Synn? LOL. Synn is one of the most expensive clubs so there's no way someone is getting in for $15. Water is in fact $10+ dollars plus the waitresses basically DEMAND a tip and if you don't tip them they catch an attitude. The they harass you over to buy a dancer drink. If you acquiesce then they both catch an attitude. The cheapest dance you can get there is $40. Which is still TOO MUCH and in essence the constant pestering ruins the experience. Quite the opposite of a coffee shop which is a hassle free experience so with those prices and the environment / culture, places like Synn aren't viable options. Closest you'll get to one is Nicolas in East Los Angeles. $0 - $5 charge, $6 for a beer (reasonable market rate), and $25 dances.

Pros - $8 coffee (entry fee). Feel up almost every girl for only $1. In and out in as little as 10-15 minutes so if the wife calls you got to feel up a couple of girls in even within those few minutes. Total damage $15-$20.

Strip club are easily 2-3 x and there is no way you're feeling up more than 1 girl at a strip club for $40-60.

[QUOTE=IrvineResident;7528684]Pros - $8 coffee (entry fee). Feel up almost every girl for only $1. In and out in as little as 10-15 minutes so if the wife calls you got to feel up a couple of girls in even within those few minutes. Total damage $15-$20.

Strip club are easily 2-3 x and there is no way you're feeling up more than 1 girl at a strip club for $40-60.[/QUOTE]Ehh there are pros and cons to both.

You mention feel up for $1, you can definetely catch an attitude if you feel up too much, are unattractive, and only tipping $1. You still can get the "smoke" smell in 10-15 min.

Clubs entry fee can easily be reduced as some have reduded morning fees or discounts at night where all in is less than $20.

Dances can be had at $20/ pop compared to coffee shops where some were charging premium on premium compared to strip clubs.

At the current state of cafes now (if they decide no nude / dances), sc are easily superior.

[QUOTE=IrvineResident;7528684]Pros - $8 coffee (entry fee). Feel up almost every girl for only $1. In and out in as little as 10-15 minutes so if the wife calls you got to feel up a couple of girls in even within those few minutes. Total damage $15-$20.

Strip club are easily 2-3 x and there is no way you're feeling up more than 1 girl at a strip club for $40-60.[/QUOTE]Are old white men welcome or will we get banned, shunned, ignored or denied entrance? Even if we get in will we get any access to the groping with tips? If it is worthwhile for an old white guy which coffee shop would you recommend. TIA.

[QUOTE=CumDripp;7528907]Ehh there are pros and cons to both.

You mention feel up for $1, you can definetely catch an attitude if you feel up too much, are unattractive, and only tipping $1. You still can get the "smoke" smell in 10-15 min.

Clubs entry fee can easily be reduced as some have reduded morning fees or discounts at night where all in is less than $20.

Dances can be had at $20/ pop compared to coffee shops where some were charging premium on premium compared to strip clubs.

At the current state of cafes now (if they decide no nude / dances), sc are easily superior.[/QUOTE]Yea, everyone exp will vary. It helps that I know the owners and speak Vietnamese.

[QUOTE=MrCobbyAbish;7528352]Yeah well people go to coffee shops to CHILL. $15 at Synn? LOL. Synn is one of the most expensive clubs so there's no way someone is getting in for $15. Water is in fact $10+ dollars plus the waitresses basically DEMAND a tip and if you don't tip them they catch an attitude. The they harass you over to buy a dancer drink. If you acquiesce then they both catch an attitude. The cheapest dance you can get there is $40. Which is still TOO MUCH and in essence the constant pestering ruins the experience. Quite the opposite of a coffee shop which is a hassle free experience so with those prices and the environment / culture, places like Synn aren't viable options. Closest you'll get to one is Nicolas in East Los Angeles. $0 - $5 charge, $6 for a beer (reasonable market rate), and $25 dances.[/QUOTE]Yes, Synn is the most expensive in that sense. Last year they dropped it to $15 cover for a few months during low season, but it's normally more plus the drink drink requirement. Yes, the drink requirement sucks. I don't even recommend Synn to most people, except that Synn fills three niches very well: Tons of petite skinny girls, a brightly lit stage and girls are receptive during stage so you can see their pussy inches from your face cheap, and it is the highest mileage club with actual hot girls. Don't go for any other reason!

When I actually just want a lap dance, I can't go to Synn because they'll pester me to bang for tips. So I go to Spearmint Rhino instead, any girl there can give a straight dance hands all over. The stage is darker but it is a big open stage at least and you can work the rail and chat with the girls when it's not busy to feel them out. And you can still get 20 dances last I went, 40 for nude. Most girls know their job. If a girl is really my type, of course I take her VIP and you can get things done.

Both are expensive. It is not a place to chill as you point out.

[QUOTE=IrvineResident;7528684]Pros - $8 coffee (entry fee). Feel up almost every girl for only $1. In and out in as little as 10-15 minutes so if the wife calls you got to feel up a couple of girls in even within those few minutes. Total damage $15-$20.

Strip club are easily 2-3 x and there is no way you're feeling up more than 1 girl at a strip club for $40-60.[/QUOTE]I get it. For a light tease that can't be beat. COI is for people who need full nude or more. Or, they need hot White girls. [B]Paris[/B] at Synn is an anomaly, a maximum S-tier young White girl who knows her job. But expensive.

There exist an OC coffee page under Orange County, if you want info on strip clubs in OC check that page out as well. For City of Industry establishments tons of information can be found under that page. Different strokes for different yolks.

Anyways back to coffee: so is everyone moving to Lu now?

[QUOTE=GreenMount28;7529203]There exist an OC coffee page under Orange County, if you want info on strip clubs in OC check that page out as well. For City of Industry establishments tons of information can be found under that page. Different strokes for different yolks.

Anyways back to coffee: so is everyone moving to Lu now?[/QUOTE]That's I figured would happen but I figured wrong. I don't know of any girls moving anywhere else. Sadly feels like a repeat of 2020 for many establishments. They are going away never coming back.

[QUOTE=GreenMount28;7529203]There exist an OC coffee page under Orange County, if you want info on strip clubs in OC check that page out as well. For City of Industry establishments tons of information can be found under that page. Different strokes for different yolks.

Anyways back to coffee: so is everyone moving to Lu now?[/QUOTE]Lu? Where do Lu come from. Pretty sure they changed management and is "TOTALLY" different than what it was like a month ago, all the OGs left and in comes Sandra and her friends, which to my opinion is "pretty ratchet" seems like they're doing dances and such and girls are posted on IG that helps. But 168/ DD excelled in that they actually had "OG ABGs at times. " All these new shops with dances are mainly from latina / white girls. But preference different for everyone.

If its actually worth going to let us know, but lineup is still pretty bare to my liking.

I didn't have money back than and live over an hour away, but I do miss the ABG era. Kinda towards the end of the ABG import model era. From what I see on socials, much less abgs and more tattood latinas / white girls.

[QUOTE=KevlarProof;7529644]I didn't have money back than and live over an hour away, but I do miss the ABG era. Kinda towards the end of the ABG import model era. From what I see on socials, much less abgs and more tattood latinas / white girls.[/QUOTE]This was primetime cafe lu.

DD Cafe was raided and shut down couple of weeks ago. Charges are that they were illegally operating as a strip club and allowing customers to bring in their own alcohol for a fee. I haven't been to any coffee shop since before the holidays. Has there been a chilling effect at other coffee shops? DM is necessary. Thanks.

[QUOTE=KevlarProof;7529644]I didn't have money back than and live over an hour away, but I do miss the ABG era. Kinda towards the end of the ABG import model era. From what I see on socials, much less abgs and more tattood latinas / white girls.[/QUOTE]Yes, there aren't enough ABG options these days and other girls have moved in. But when you see ABG girls worth seeing, say the word and people will show up.

Attached is another girl from the ABG era. ABG Team Seven is not a common combo, but it exists.

[QUOTE=Qeast;7531686]DD Cafe was raided and shut down couple of weeks ago. Charges are that they were illegally operating as a strip club and allowing customers to bring in their own alcohol for a fee. I haven't been to any coffee shop since before the holidays. Has there been a chilling effect at other coffee shops? DM is necessary. Thanks.[/QUOTE]I think the downfall is when they hire actual strippers that openly turn in into a stripclub lite. Unlike the old days of college 20 yo asian babygirls (someone asked what abg is, think of young 20 year old asian american girls, generally the ones that would probably have implants, or dyed hair, drinks boba, probably has a lexus or benz etc).

[QUOTE=Qeast;7531686]DD Cafe was raided and shut down couple of weeks ago. Charges are that they were illegally operating as a strip club and allowing customers to bring in their own alcohol for a fee. I haven't been to any coffee shop since before the holidays. Has there been a chilling effect at other coffee shops? DM is necessary. Thanks.[/QUOTE]DD fallout? One ABG is now doing influencer marketing (charging for shoutouts), another ABG is already employed at a OC bikini bar.

[QUOTE=KevlarProof;7529644]I didn't have money back than and live over an hour away, but I do miss the ABG era. Kinda towards the end of the ABG import model era. From what I see on socials, much less abgs and more tattood latinas / white girls.[/QUOTE]In 2026, ABGs are social media influencers.

Does anybody know where Wendy ended up at? She used to be at DD's.