Sugar Baby / Sugar Daddy relationships

[QUOTE=ZenAdventurer;5519105]A good test. Don't under any circumstances send cash up front for anything. Specify pay per meet (PPM), suggest a date / location, and if they ghost you, it was a scam. If that say, sure, let's talk about getting together (and don't ask for any money), they're probably legit. A lot will email you until the "ask" - for rent, sick kid, car payment, getting electricity turned off. And as soon as you set parameters, crickets. Corresponded with one promising young lass who only had one pic on her profile and only sent me pictures of her dogs when we were getting to know each other. Red flag. The requests for cash came early and fast. Which is when you ghost them back. Seeking is a waste, other than for PPM / escorts, for the most part. I see guys extolling their conquests here, but I've yet to meet one person, so I have to call into question those reports. Please, send us links for the legit ones, but if they start asking for cash right away. Not legit. I'll try this young lady and see what happens. Thanks for posting.[/QUOTE]I'm a writer by vocation. I've encountered a number of different posts with supposedly different subjects, but when you engage with them and they start asking for money, the tone and "voice" and language are the same. Sweetie, honey baby. Even if they supposedly know your name. I think a group gets together with their Cash App handles, they post a series of fake profiles, they each conduct a series of fake interactions, all hoping to get money. It would be so easy. The whole thing for the most part is a scam.

[QUOTE=ZenAdventurer;5519105]A good test. Don't under any circumstances send cash up front for anything. Specify pay per meet (PPM), suggest a date / location, and if they ghost you, it was a scam. If that say, sure, let's talk about getting together (and don't ask for any money), they're probably legit. A lot will email you until the "ask" - for rent, sick kid, car payment, getting electricity turned off. And as soon as you set parameters, crickets. Corresponded with one promising young lass who only had one pic on her profile and only sent me pictures of her dogs when we were getting to know each other. Red flag. The requests for cash came early and fast. Which is when you ghost them back. Seeking is a waste, other than for PPM / escorts, for the most part. I see guys extolling their conquests here, but I've yet to meet one person, so I have to call into question those reports. Please, send us links for the legit ones, but if they start asking for cash right away. Not legit. I'll try this young lady and see what happens. Thanks for posting.[/QUOTE]My experience had been completely opposite of you. Yes, there are girls on there that wants PPM, rents, the kitchen sink etc. Yes, there are girls that will give you for free or want platonic, they come in all size and shapes.

Most of the guys are looking to get laid and approach them as prostitutes' or treat them as a piece of meat. When this happens, it messes up the experience for them, hence closing of accounts. If you approach them and only talk about slamming them in bed, you'll get treated as a ATM. If you treat them as a human being, actually take the time to know them and show sincerity, you'll get some of the hot girls whom are on there for the experience and not so much PPM. I will attest to this all day, twice on Sunday.

For the last 2 years or so, I've had more than 60+ vaginas from 18-38, most are under 22 as that's my preference. At any given time, I'll have over 4 on rotation to keep me busy, yes am a maniac. 98% of them wasn't a one and done, they're all college girls whom wants experience and tired of the frats and fuckboys.

I haven't been on there for quite some time and are now with just one girl since the beginning of the year. Yes, you read it right, one to where I am seeing often from this site and kept my interest peak as a real sugar baby, without the PPM or transactional. I don't foreseeing throwing her back in the pond to trade as she had two long term arrangements in the past.

Take this post how ever you want to, approach them as a piece of meat and you'll get the same treatment back. If you approach them like a gentlemen and make it to third base, you're in for a ride, put some effort and watch the fruition of your labor.

[QUOTE=WanderingAbout;5517562]You sure do like SA profiles that don't show faces (3 out of 4 are faceless).[/QUOTE]Haha. That's a fair call-out!! I didn't realize that until you pointed it out! Just sharing my experiences. Luckily, I have had better success with others on the site.

She checks a lot of boxes for me LOL. Does anyone here have any info on this one?

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/ea028085-538a-48fe-8fb8-d57e76458caa[/URL]

[QUOTE=ZenAdventurer;5519169]I'm a writer by vocation. I've encountered a number of different posts with supposedly different subjects, but when you engage with them and they start asking for money, the tone and "voice" and language are the same. Sweetie, honey baby.[/QUOTE]Ha. I've noticed the term "dear" a lot from scammers. Not used as much by the younger generation, so easy to spot. But I have also noticed that there are a lot more scammers that have a pretty good command of the English language which makes them hard to spot right off.

[QUOTE=Cmqiu018;5521854]Ha. I've noticed the term "dear" a lot from scammers. Not used as much by the younger generation, so easy to spot. But I have also noticed that there are a lot more scammers that have a pretty good command of the English language which makes them hard to spot right off.[/QUOTE]I absolutely hate it when they call you "daddy. " Totally skeezes me out. But also, for me, another scammer red flag. I prefer when they use whatever name you give them. Even had one this week keep calling me by a different name. She was getting her texts messed up. Also a ref flag. Lmao.

[QUOTE=Dmm150;5521570]Haha. That's a fair call-out!! I didn't realize that until you pointed it out! Just sharing my experiences. Luckily, I have had better success with others on the site.[/QUOTE]Was wondering why they were all a pass, clicked links to look at profiles, then noticed they each didn't have a face (in their profile) hahaha. Happy hunting.

May be wrong. Seem to believe this one will promote her OF to you rather than actually meet. You may have a different experience. Two yellow flags in her profile. First, she says she is new to this. No, she has been around for almost a year. Second, is the. She has encountered to many scammers and you have to prove to her you are legit. Line. Those two things are never a good starting point.

[QUOTE=Fitzyj76;5521808]She checks a lot of boxes for me LOL. Does anyone here have any info on this one?

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/ea028085-538a-48fe-8fb8-d57e76458caa[/URL][/QUOTE]

I'm just dipping my toe in the SB thing so it's nice to know what the red flags are with them. I thought it was strange about the scammer stuff but I have not been in her position so I thought maybe it's something I'm unaware of. I'll not waste my time, skip.

[QUOTE=WanderingAbout;5522378]May be wrong. Seem to believe this one will promote her OF to you rather than actually meet. You may have a different experience. Two yellow flags in her profile. First, she says she is new to this. No, she has been around for almost a year. Second, is the. She has encountered to many scammers and you have to prove to her you are legit. Line. Those two things are never a good starting point.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=OnlyBlondes;5521338]My experience had been completely opposite of you. Yes, there are girls on there that wants PPM, rents, the kitchen sink etc. Yes, there are girls that will give you for free or want platonic, they come in all size and shapes.

Most of the guys are looking to get laid and approach them as prostitutes' or treat them as a piece of meat. When this happens, it messes up the experience for them, hence closing of accounts. If you approach them and only talk about slamming them in bed, you'll get treated as a ATM. If you treat them as a human being, actually take the time to know them and show sincerity, you'll get some of the hot girls whom are on there for the experience and not so much PPM. I will attest to this all day, twice on Sunday.

For the last 2 years or so, I've had more than 60+ vaginas from 18-38, most are under 22 as that's my preference. At any given time, I'll have over 4 on rotation to keep me busy, yes am a maniac. 98% of them wasn't a one and done, they're all college girls whom wants experience and tired of the frats and fuckboys.

I haven't been on there for quite some time and are now with just one girl since the beginning of the year. Yes, you read it right, one to where I am seeing often from this site and kept my interest peak as a real sugar baby, without the PPM or transactional. I don't foreseeing throwing her back in the pond to trade as she had two long term arrangements in the past.

Take this post how ever you want to, approach them as a piece of meat and you'll get the same treatment back. If you approach them like a gentlemen and make it to third base, you're in for a ride, put some effort and watch the fruition of your labor.[/QUOTE]Best advice given on here and my experience has been similar. I even have several ladies that work at various clubs see me for nothing because of the reasons you mentioned.

I don't have much interaction with scammers. But this one just reached out to me. Fast responses. New member and way too eager. Wanted 400. Immediately agreed to 200. Suddenly was not in Indy. But in my town and wanting to meet. Just needs $50 via PayPal and we can meet later. LOL. Um. No. Then. Crickets when I refused. I am shocked.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/5f9b8ebd-770d-4957-a85e-9d7225b287d7[/URL]

[QUOTE=Fitzyj76;5521808]She checks a lot of boxes for me LOL. Does anyone here have any info on this one?

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/ea028085-538a-48fe-8fb8-d57e76458caa[/URL][/QUOTE]She has been reviewed on here before. I wish I had better memory of such things, but it wasn't a positive review. I just don't remember the reasons.

She's mainly on * and has a lot of followers there. Occasionally she has daddies but has gotten very expensive. Last quoted me 600. She's been around along time. Has had a boob job which look really good on her. I've never partaken but have followed her for a long time. If her prices came down I'd definitely partake.

[QUOTE=Dude8622;5524270]She has been reviewed on here before. I wish I had better memory of such things, but it wasn't a positive review. I just don't remember the reasons.[/QUOTE]

So many of the girls on SA are looking for something just online. Either a lot of scams or a lot of uninformed young ladies. But wait here's one. Check out June. Only $650 per meet. I see the line forming already LOL.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/8c3819fb-f649-44de-9f32-10352c5b0a45[/URL]

She's got a profile all about love and romance, but doesn't want anything intimate. Conversation started off great but got weird so I blocked her.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/4ec293dd-b30b-4bf0-bbf7-3abca9ecd504[/URL]

Anybody interested in participating in there threesome with a female. I've done everything but MFM And I'm totally not interested in touching any penises are having any male touch my penis. I'm thinking more like a DP session. I would have the female I can probably rent a room although I usually just host but for this I'd want to rent a hotel room. And I'm looking for somebody with a less than large penis. Because I don't want to be jealous. And you can’t be a minute man he had to have some endurance

[QUOTE=TyCox;5527258]Anybody interested in participating in there threesome with a female. I've done everything but MFM And I'm totally not interested in touching any penises are having any male touch my penis. I'm thinking more like a DP session. I would have the female I can probably rent a room although I usually just host but for this I'd want to rent a hotel room. And I'm looking for somebody with a less than large penis. Because I don't want to be jealous. And you cant be a minute man he had to have some endurance[/QUOTE]Why Threesome when you can have a gangbang. I know a handful of seniors would be down for that if you have a pic of her. Just saying.

[QUOTE=OnlyBlondes;5527503]Why Threesome when you can have a gangbang. I know a handful of seniors would be down for that if you have a pic of her. Just saying.[/QUOTE]Might work up to that. But for now I'm just thinking threesome.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/fddc263f-e5e0-4dfd-a683-1a1e4e71a9bf[/URL]

Biggest red flag was the 463 area code and there were a couple other minor ones that lead me to believe the guy behind this account isn't American. It's definitely a scam though makes plans then asks to borrow money.

[QUOTE=ZakkWylde;5531097][URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/fddc263f-e5e0-4dfd-a683-1a1e4e71a9bf[/URL]

Biggest red flag was the 463 area code and there were a couple other minor ones that lead me to believe the guy behind this account isn't American. It's definitely a scam though makes plans then asks to borrow money.[/QUOTE]Is central Indiana, so why is that a red flag?

[QUOTE=TyCox;5531099]Is central Indiana, so why is that a red flag?[/QUOTE]Because that is the area code scammers use when they try to make you think they are from central Indiana.

[QUOTE=ZakkWylde;5531120]Because that is the area code scammers use when they try to make you think they are from central Indiana.[/QUOTE]My phone is 463.

[QUOTE=WreckItRight;5531953]My phone is 463.[/QUOTE]Exactly.

Now I'll be ever more cautious! Lmao just playing with you brother.

I know this is a long shot but thought I'd give it a try. Has anyone met this girl? She had a SA account about 7 months ago but it's long since taken down. I've been chatting with her for quite a while, (All online as I live in Canada. Hence my low post count on this forum) but now have an opportunity to meet her. I have a biz trip to Chicago and am contemplating a quick jaunt to Indy to see her. I'm wondering if anyone on here has any info. She seems legit but I'm always very cautious about going out of my way to meet a SB. PM me if you are more comfortable with that.

[QUOTE=MrPopular;5476857]She's a dancer, works at Dancers and a couple other places and is very impressed with herself.[/QUOTE]I've talked to her in the club and have her digits. She's also on snap. She told me 600 and I didn't argue with her or try to talk her down but I didn't accept either. Lets say she won't go down unless she knows you well from the club. She will text her old contacts when she needs $$$ I had forgotten about her and out of the blue she texts me. I think she just goes down the list to the highest bidder. I told her she's probably worth 1 K but the CoEds at IU think they are only worth $$ . 5 She went down to $$$ . 5 and I just replied, lets stay in touch.

She's more pro than Tom Brady but might be worth a ride who knows, just not at that rate. I'd cover it even if she said no need to. This was a few months back and I wasnt in a hurry to see anyone outside of what I had going on at the time. She has a friend that works at the club that is also a SB and not so NFL, not giving out her info though but she isn't hard to locate.

Also I just got back on SA due to a change in status and I noticed alot of girls profiles state they won't give out number and prefer to talk on Seeking first. Thats a huge red flag and will likely get you banned. Seeking is more strict now than it ever was.

[QUOTE=TyCox;5527258]Anybody interested in participating in there threesome with a female. I've done everything but MFM And I'm totally not interested in touching any penises are having any male touch my penis. I'm thinking more like a DP session. I would have the female I can probably rent a room although I usually just host but for this I'd want to rent a hotel room. And I'm looking for somebody with a less than large penis. Because I don't want to be jealous. And you cant be a minute man he had to have some endurance[/QUOTE]The subject is ill waiting for test results. And the guys with the big dicks a nice body is probably not what I am going to pick.

It seems like everyone is "vibing". Vibe here, Vibe there. I get much of the vernacular, like hookup, dtf, something casual and of course "Chill", but am I missing something? When they say on their profile that they want "someone to Vibe with" do they mean —someone to fuck?

[QUOTE=MrPopular;5536023]It seems like everyone is "vibing". Vibe here, Vibe there. I get much of the vernacular, like hookup, dtf, something casual and of course "Chill", but am I missing something? When they say on their profile that they want "someone to Vibe with" do they mean someone to fuck?[/QUOTE]Vibe means they want to have a connection with you not just transactional. Ie conversation someone to agree with all their fucked up views basically because they want in a man is chivalry, to be worshipped, masculinity in bed, but none in public. Definitely none in public. They'd almost prefer men to act gay in public. Be sure to mention you are LGBTQ friendly, 420 friendly. If you are or not doesn't matter just say you are. ALL Because masculinity is toxic, just agree with the talking points and you'll be fine. If they use the initials FW in reference to you, that's good that means fuck with.

Also use words like triggered emotionally so they know you aren't a misogynist. She'll gasp and be vibe-ing with you if someone cuts you off in traffic and you say that was triggering! And if she talks about her baby daddy or ex SD mention that he was gaslighting her or that he was passive. No need to add aggressive to passive they'll know you meant that. Save the name calling for when you re actually doing the act, then its ok to use words like **** and *****, otherwise NEVER. Its a fine line but hey once you get the hang of it its beautiful.

Edit: wouldn't let me post those two words and I can see that, but we all know what they are... lol

[QUOTE=WreckItRight;5536208]Vibe means they want to have a connection with you not just transactional. Ie conversation someone to agree with all their fucked up views basically because they want in a man is chivalry, to be worshipped, masculinity in bed, but none in public. Definitely none in public. They'd almost prefer men to act gay in public. Be sure to mention you are LGBTQ friendly, 420 friendly. If you are or not doesn't matter just say you are. ALL Because masculinity is toxic, just agree with the talking points and you'll be fine. If they use the initials FW in reference to you, that's good that means fuck with.

Also use words like triggered emotionally so they know you aren't a misogynist. She'll gasp and be vibe-ing with you if someone cuts you off in traffic and you say that was triggering! And if she talks about her baby daddy or ex SD mention that he was gaslighting her or that he was passive. No need to add aggressive to passive they'll know you meant that. Save the name calling for when you re actually doing the act, then its ok to use words like **** and *****, otherwise NEVER. Its a fine line but hey once you get the hang of it its beautiful.

Edit: wouldn't let me post those two words and I can see that, but we all know what they are... lol[/QUOTE]Wreck, you are a Guru! :-D.

I am banned and I have tried numerous work arounds. Last shot I tried was a Walmart visa but they still "got me". If anyone has got back in please PM me with how you did it. Appreciate it.

[QUOTE=SlummiesChap;5542218]I am banned and I have tried numerous work arounds. Last shot I tried was a Walmart visa but they still "got me". If anyone has got back in please PM me with how you did it. Appreciate it.[/QUOTE]Helped me and I got back in. Here is the list:

1) Use a VPN server, or a new device with a different IP address. Your IP address used during the infraction that got you banned will never work again.

2) All photo files used can't be re-used. That means new pictures.

3) All credit cards used with accompanying data (IE your name.

Street address, phone number) can't be re-used. So that means use a gift card that you pre-register. Register the card with all fake data. Use the fake data when making payment.

4) Continue to use the VPN server when you are using the site. Eventually you can stop this and get away with it. Initially you can not.

The best way to get nailed is uploading previously used photos. These files are tagged and you will get bombed out immediately.

[QUOTE=Radarorielly;5542548]Helped me and I got back in. Here is the list:

1) Use a VPN server, or a new device with a different IP address. Your IP address used during the infraction that got you banned will never work again.

2) All photo files used can't be re-used. That means new pictures.

3) All credit cards used with accompanying data (IE your name.

Street address, phone number) can't be re-used. So that means use a gift card that you pre-register. Register the card with all fake data. Use the fake data when making payment.

4) Continue to use the VPN server when you are using the site. Eventually you can stop this and get away with it. Initially you can not.

The best way to get nailed is uploading previously used photos. These files are tagged and you will get bombed out immediately.[/QUOTE]I theorized about the vpn and other stuff but did not think of the pictures you use. Again thanks.

All the good efforts in getting back on will be for nothing if you get banned again in a day. So don't get baited into long convos on there. They know what you are there for, these girls that want you to prove you are real are usually scammers. If I was a girl I'd have a wish list too, its for idiots. If you re stupid enough to buy me a gift for nothing SWEET! Don't be that guy.

Also, I don't think SA is actually monitoring convos other than some algorithm designed to pick up on key words. Like PPM and probably anything sexual. I've had my best luck staying away from trigger words, just pretend its a DATING app and not a hook up for $$ site because that's what SA wants the LE to think. 99% of the girls will take it offline and if not give you their number at least their snap. And trust me they ALL have Snap. Snap is great cause the convo will disappear after you read it or withn 24 hrs depending on how you set it. This keeps them from screen-shooting convos and uploading them to SA. And yeah they will do it, not often but they will. Especially if they arent happy about sumthin. Girls seldom delete you from their snap. 1. they don't want to burn that bridge and 2. They can just ignore you if they arent going to FW you. Disappearing convos make it hard to keep track of different girls if you are talking to multiples though. Obviously.

[QUOTE=Radarorielly;5542548]Helped me and I got back in. Here is the list:

1) Use a VPN server, or a new device with a different IP address. Your IP address used during the infraction that got you banned will never work again.

2) All photo files used can't be re-used. That means new pictures.

3) All credit cards used with accompanying data (IE your name.

Street address, phone number) can't be re-used. So that means use a gift card that you pre-register. Register the card with all fake data. Use the fake data when making payment.

4) Continue to use the VPN server when you are using the site. Eventually you can stop this and get away with it. Initially you can not.

The best way to get nailed is uploading previously used photos. These files are tagged and you will get bombed out immediately.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Radarorielly;5542548]Helped me and I got back in. Here is the list:

1) Use a VPN server, or a new device with a different IP address. Your IP address used during the infraction that got you banned will never work again.

2) All photo files used can't be re-used. That means new pictures.

3) All credit cards used with accompanying data (IE your name.

Street address, phone number) can't be re-used. So that means use a gift card that you pre-register. Register the card with all fake data. Use the fake data when making payment.

4) Continue to use the VPN server when you are using the site. Eventually you can stop this and get away with it. Initially you can not.

The best way to get nailed is uploading previously used photos. These files are tagged and you will get bombed out immediately.[/QUOTE]Always glad to help!

Potentially have a boom boom date with this one. Any feedback?

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/a689ffeb-f3e3-4c35-9af2-675f1ae7cad3[/URL]

[QUOTE=TyCox;5527258]Anybody interested in participating in there threesome with a female. I've done everything but MFM And I'm totally not interested in touching any penises are having any male touch my penis. I'm thinking more like a DP session. I would have the female I can probably rent a room although I usually just host but for this I'd want to rent a hotel room. And I'm looking for somebody with a less than large penis. Because I don't want to be jealous. And you cant be a minute man he had to have some endurance[/QUOTE]Was just thinking about how this went for you. Any updates?

This one is real, pretty cute. Met with her for a meet and greet in the Keystone area, we made out in the car she allowed top access and was gave me an old fashioned. We broke off, before much further, then the excuses came on and on and on. Work, kids, ex, family, car, phone, blah blah blah. Maybe she didn't like me, which wouldn't be the first time. I don't have the time though so I'll pass her along.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/01c52b53-c43d-4382-80c7-0dbfd5c4f6c0[/URL]

Not true. She is interested in sex. One and done a little too ghetto for me.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/346fb5e0-476e-472a-bcfc-d33a43a1929a[/URL]

Watch this one. She's very aggressive about what she does and for how much. She wants big cocks only. Sent me pictures of a hot Asian mix. Claims she just moved from Denver. Just too much. For instance, her only rule was "get me drunk before you put it in my ass" Cmon, that's a sucker trap. LEO at best, set up at worst.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/c2dbde67-9fd3-4daf-ab3b-ee0cd0678b57[/URL]

She met me and is super cute. Picked her up at her east side ghetto place. Thin w big tits. We went for coffee or and had a date scheduled for tomorrow. Claims to be brand new at this, bla bla bla and says she's a virgin, but will have sex, if the "vibe" is right. You know where this is going. Suddenly, she's not quite ready to get a hotel but wants to just get breakfast. I agree, though I have better things to do. I also mention no allowance while she decides if she wants to have sex and her response is "No need to keep in contact". Have fun!

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/065ace67-1e4d-4341-8366-8894a6580df5[/URL]

Anyone have an intel on this one? Been communicating and thinking about seeing her, but thought I would check here first.

[QUOTE=AfterYourGSpot;5553899]Anyone have an intel on this one? Been communicating and thinking about seeing her, but thought I would check here first.[/QUOTE]Has a misplaced sense of entitlement, but is a good fuck. Talks only about herself and is easily, I mean very easily, triggered into something like rage. Handle with care.