[QUOTE=SpudGun300;2585408]Does she do both in and outcall?[/QUOTE]I think she might depending on the distance / location. She seemed accommodating and flexible to me. RR knows her well so he can verify.
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[QUOTE=SpudGun300;2585408]Does she do both in and outcall?[/QUOTE]I think she might depending on the distance / location. She seemed accommodating and flexible to me. RR knows her well so he can verify.
Been texting back and forth for a few days. Sounded nice and down to earth. Set appointment. Follow up call to confirm. Appeared as if everything was good to go. The time came and went. Tried to texr and call and radio silence. Maybe she got spooked. Hoping you gentleman may have some feedback.
[URL]http://tampa.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/outcall-only-th-beutfu-sexy-exotic-riel-call-me-now/16531523[/URL]
[QUOTE=SelectivePete;2583577]Helion, That's a misleading statement ("how good we have it here. ") . Invalid to say the least. This is not DET, CHI, ATL, LA, etc. THIS IS TAMPA! . The Median Income (not medium) for the bay area is lower than area's you've metioned. If you Live, Work & Play in Tampa 90% in any given year, then, you would understand. $$. 50 is outragious for HH for a BP girl. Maybe a P411 girl but heck, I see a lot of them posting on BP also. . My Opinion, Give a reasonable quote with No Upsell. Provide Enthusiastic, Attentive Service and a Real Southern Gentleman will Always TIP![/QUOTE]Ok you have a fair point with that. I agree with you. Tampa is a different cost of living. Income and expense.
What I am mainly reacting to is two things.
1) several comments from members suggesting we need to band together somehow and refuse to pay over $200/ hr. I think this tactic will just cause the good girls to leave the market. Each member can do as he wants. I will continue to pay what I think is a reasonable rate for good service. I also agree though that girls on BP should not be expecting P411 rates either. BP is a different marketplace.
2) I have sat there after sessions and watched the texts some girls receive from guys complaining about their rates. Hopefully that is no one on this board. These guys are being jack asses about it. If you text a girl for her donation and it is more than you think is fair, please just leave it at that. Move on. There is no need to send half a dozen more mean, nasty messages to a girl over her rates. There are plenty of fish.
[QUOTE=DsZpeed04;2586239]Been texting back and forth for a few days. Sounded nice and down to earth. Set appointment. Follow up call to confirm. Appeared as if everything was good to go. The time came and went. Tried to texr and call and radio silence. Maybe she got spooked. Hoping you gentleman may have some feedback.
[URL]http://tampa.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/outcall-only-th-beutfu-sexy-exotic-riel-call-me-now/16531523[/URL][/QUOTE]You know most of them are flaky in this business. What has always been funny to me is that being African American and Native American mixed is rare as hell like somewhere close to less than 2% of the AA population but 50 percent of the AA GIRLS ON BP claim that they are that mix; how lucky are we that they all are in the business and advertising on BP. Starting off your ad with a lie is a sure sign to me that those pictures are usually not you or that you are not about business and you are in this to rip people off. I would suggest to just move on, its plenty of others that will show you a good time, she probably did you a favor.
[QUOTE=TeamCommando;2585905]I think she might depending on the distance / location. She seemed accommodating and flexible to me. RR knows her well so he can verify.[/QUOTE]TC is correct, but I'm getting a lot of questions that are so easily answered by picking up the phone and asking.
[QUOTE=Helion;2586301]Ok you have a fair point with that. I agree with you. Tampa is a different cost of living. Income and expense.
2) I have sat there after sessions and watched the texts some girls receive from guys complaining about their rates. Hopefully that is no one on this board. These guys are being jack asses about it. If you text a girl for her donation and it is more than you think is fair, please just leave it at that. Move on. There is no need to send half a dozen more mean, nasty messages to a girl over her rates. There are plenty of fish.[/QUOTE]That has to be a huge turn off to legit girls. The few times I been in that situation, I simply replied something to the effect that the $$ is out of my price range and thank them for getting back to me. Leave it at that. A few times I got follow up txt from the girl asking if I was still interested in seeing her and offers a lower $ if so. I was able to meet up a few times with those girls. Typically you never hear back, but damn sure should be ragging on them about their rate. Her puss and mouth, her rate. Right now there seems to be plenty of good once throughout different price ranges.
[QUOTE=Helion;2586301]Ok you have a fair point with that. I agree with you. Tampa is a different cost of living. Income and expense.
What I am mainly reacting to is two things.
1) several comments from members suggesting we need to band together somehow and refuse to pay over $200/ hr. I think this tactic will just cause the good girls to leave the market. Each member can do as he wants. I will continue to pay what I think is a reasonable rate for good service. I also agree though that girls on BP should not be expecting P411 rates either. BP is a different marketplace.
2) I have sat there after sessions and watched the texts some girls receive from guys complaining about their rates. Hopefully that is no one on this board. These guys are being jack asses about it. If you text a girl for her donation and it is more than you think is fair, please just leave it at that. Move on. There is no need to send half a dozen more mean, nasty messages to a girl over her rates. There are plenty of fish.[/QUOTE]Some of the best sessions I've had were less than $200, so I think differently.
And I agree that if one thinks the price a provider is asking is too high, it's time to move on to another.
The other day I had a call with a provider whose ad sounded good. Our conversation went well, but she was stuck at $120 for 30 minutes. I told her my budget was $80 and waited for her to counter at $100, which I probably would have accepted. She didn't, so I told her I was sorry, but I wouldn't be seeing her. I wasn't mean, I didn't demean her services, appearance, or prices, I just told her, "maybe another time. ".
After hearing of how Gia of DM ripped one of us off, and how another of the providers from there had to smoke a bunch of weed before providing service, I'm not in a hurry to give them a try.
BTW, what's the magic decoder ring for prices? I see people post a variety of code values and have NFI as to what they mean.
Yesterday I decided to do some hobbying while I was out, so I called Nautica:
[URL]http://tampa.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/4015mins-6030mins-100hr-blonde-bombshell-that-will-rock-yr-world-everytime/16517908[/URL]
And got no answer. Then I moved to call Grace, who's ad is not longer posted, but read as follows (and whose photos are attached):
-begin ad-.
Hey, what's up my names Grace. I'm a super cute laid back kinda girl. That likes to have fun Call or text me at 8134005041.
Donations only $$.
Incallss only ❤.
Poster's age: 20.
Location: busch gardens, Hillsborough Co, Tampa.
Post I'd: 16465654 tampa.
-end ad-.
Rolled to VM.
Tried Nautica a bit later and got through, told her where I was and when I'd be there. She sounded like she'd been sleeping or was high. Everything sounded cool. I called as I neared her landmark, but rolled to VM on the first two calls, so I called (young) Grace again. Went to VM again.
Got through the Nautica several minutes later, who told me she wouldn't be ready for another 15 to 20 minutes. I wasn't going to turn around and head back to see someone who was as careless as she about her business, so I kept on trucking. Tried Grace a couple more times, but kept rolling to VM.
Today I called Grace and a man answered. When I asked for Grace he told me he had the wrong number. No, I just hit redial from the number I was calling yesterday, you dolt. Your girl must be out of action. In one of the photos Grace looks like she's been crying--wondering if anyone has seen either girl, if Nautica is as wasted in person as she sounds on the phone, and if Grace has a pimp who might be mistreating her?
Meanwhile, I've got a session lined up for next week with someone else. We'll see how that turns out.
[QUOTE=Reaper400;2586462]That has to be a huge turn off to legit girls. The few times I been in that situation, I simply replied something to the effect that the $$ is out of my price range and thank them for getting back to me. Leave it at that. A few times I got follow up txt from the girl asking if I was still interested in seeing her and offers a lower $ if so. I was able to meet up a few times with those girls. Typically you never hear back, but damn sure should be ragging on them about their rate. Her puss and mouth, her rate. Right now there seems to be plenty of good once throughout different price ranges.[/QUOTE]That's exactly what I do when I get a girl that seems like she has GPS, I just tell her that's a bit more than I'm willing to offer. More times than not I'll get the "well what are you willing to offer" back and we can usually hook up. Some on the other hand will just say have a nice day back. Always more available to check out.
[QUOTE=Drlickaclit;2585691]Yes I agree! I've seen Karmen twice over the last few weeks. She loves doing BBBJ and it shows. She will just get right between your legs and suck your cock, lick your balls and taint for as long as you want. She gives you two pops for the hr, one for the half. 100 half, 200 whole. Shit feels so damn good, her technique is one of the best in tampa. She take cim with no problem, just sit back and let her worship your cock, I guarantee you will leave feeling like a new man! Her body isn't the best but her attitude and service more than makes up for it. Hotel is nice, near airport.
[URL]http://tampa.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/sexy-karmencome-see-me/16273610[/URL][/QUOTE]Yeah karmen is fun. That drifter I know has seen her a few times for BBBJCIM and COF which was lots of fun. He has had his fill because her body isn't exactly what he likes but she has an awesome attitude and makes sure you have a good time. Crazyhorse approves.
[QUOTE=KhalidMangafi;2586575]Some of the best sessions I've had were less than $200, so I think differently.
And I agree that if one thinks the price a provider is asking is too high, it's time to move on to another.
The other day I had a call with a provider whose ad sounded good. Our conversation went well, but she was stuck at $120 for 30 minutes. I told her my budget was $80 and waited for her to counter at $100, which I probably would have accepted. She didn't, so I told her I was sorry, but I wouldn't be seeing her. I wasn't mean, I didn't demean her services, appearance, or prices, I just told her, "maybe another time. ".
After hearing of how Gia of DM ripped one of us off, and how another of the providers from there had to smoke a bunch of weed before providing service, I'm not in a hurry to give them a try.
BTW, what's the magic decoder ring for prices? I see people post a variety of code values and have NFI as to what they mean.[/QUOTE]I've noticed a lot of random ways to do prices on here too, a decoder would be helpful.
DM has top-notch high quality girls like Brooke, Kiko and Tabitha--who IMO could charge more than 2 bills and get it easily--and then it's got girls like Gia and Marsha who won't last more than more than a couple months. Another buddy of mine mentioned he thought he had walked in with more ca $h on him but couldn't find it after his date with Gia. He chalked it up to being old but after reading Woody's post he thinks that's what happened too. Marshas skills when she's sober (ish, when I saw her she had definitely been smoking but she wasn't as high as Nile described) aren't bad, and she's got a nice face but she's got the body of the pillsbury doughboy, probably all those munchies adding on weight.
[QUOTE=KhalidMangafi;2586575]Some of the best sessions I've had were less than $200, so I think differently.
And I agree that if one thinks the price a provider is asking is too high, it's time to move on to another.
The other day I had a call with a provider whose ad sounded good. Our conversation went well, but she was stuck at $120 for 30 minutes. I told her my budget was $80 and waited for her to counter at $100, which I probably would have accepted. She didn't, so I told her I was sorry, but I wouldn't be seeing her. I wasn't mean, I didn't demean her services, appearance, or prices, I just told her, "maybe another time. ".
After hearing of how Gia of DM ripped one of us off, and how another of the providers from there had to smoke a bunch of weed before providing service, I'm not in a hurry to give them a try.
BTW, what's the magic decoder ring for prices? I see people post a variety of code values and have NFI as to what they mean.[/QUOTE]Click on the abbreviations box at the top of the page. It reveals the $$ code for prices. Pretty silly really, as lots of contributors get it wrong.
This chick robbed me, but I'm going to give all the details because in all fairness a lot of it was my fault for making a stupid mistake (s). I had set up an appointment with her and had asked beforehand if I would be able to take a shower when I got there (was sweaty due to working outside prior to appointment) she said that was fine. 2-5 min before I arrive I call her to tell her I'm close and she directs me to her place, she was friendly on the phone, and even when I got in the apt she was friendly. We "screened" each other, she gave me a hug and we chatted a bit. Then came the bad (and otherwise stupid part from my end) part, she asked me for the donation and I left it on the table. Now mind you I had even considered whether I should've done that even before I met up with her, because I already know that is one of the first things they ask for, so in my head before I arrived I was asking myself if should give it to her right then and there, or tell her I would give it to her after the shower, obviously, I went with the first, stupid mistake. I go and take a shower, I wasn't even in there for more than 2 minutes, I get out and she is not in the living room, I see the bedroom door closed and so I open it to see if she is just waiting in there for me but she's not, I already worried at this point, then I check the patio, and then I even open the front door too see if maybe she was just smoking out there, nope. I then kinda start to panic, this was the first time this has personally happened to me, only have heard other experiences on here, so I didn't really know what was happening, like an idiot I even check the fucking closet as if she was playing a game of hide and seek. I then decide to check my phone and that's when I see she sent me a text. She said "hun I just house sit there, you should go before the guys who live there get home", I was so angry but even more just afraid. One of the main reasons if not THE reason I didn't try to "argue" with her to begin with to give her the donation after the shower is because I don't like confrontation, everytime in the past I've tried to give the donation after the deed is done, they always complain, argue, yelling, etc. So If I don't even like to deal with that, you can maybe imagine how panicky I felt that her pimp / bf was coming. I got out of there as quickly as possible, so much so that I put my shirt on backwards. While obviously I'm angry aabout this, I still try to look at the positive out of all this, and pretty much the only "positive" thing I could pull out of this is essentially, lesson learned. While I don't like confrontation I have learned I got to be more assertive and stand my ground, and its prob not just her, you could maybe even argue that any of these girls (including those you think you trust because you've visited multiple times already) will take and exploit the same opportunity that happened to me today if the chance comes up. So again, I'm not avoiding the fact that I approached this situation in a very stupid manner, but I still wanted to share this of course so that others can avoid the same misfortune, and I can also maybe hope that by making this review, that it will negatively affect her "business" (assuming she was already getting a lot of customers). Good luck and safe hunting.
[URL]http://tampa.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/exotic-and-erotic/16033463[/URL]
[QUOTE=Wamo25;2587023]This chick robbed me, but I'm going to give all the details because in all fairness a lot of it was my fault for making a stupid mistake (s). I had set up an appointment with her and had asked beforehand if I would be able to take a shower when I got there (was sweaty due to working outside prior to appointment) she said that was fine. 2-5 min before I arrive I call her to tell her I'm close and she directs me to her place, she was friendly on the phone, and even when I got in the apt she was friendly. We "screened" each other, she gave me a hug and we chatted a bit. Then came the bad (and otherwise stupid part from my end) part, she asked me for the donation and I left it on the table. Now mind you I had even considered whether I should've done that even before I met up with her, because I already know that is one of the first things they ask for, so in my head before I arrived I was asking myself if should give it to her right then and there, or tell her I would give it to her after the shower, obviously, I went with the first, stupid mistake. I go and take a shower, I wasn't even in there for more than 2 minutes, I get out and she is not in the living room, I see the bedroom door closed and so I open it to see if she is just waiting in there for me but she's not, I already worried at this point, then I check the patio, and then I even open the front door too see if maybe she was just smoking out there, nope. I then kinda start to panic, this was the first time this has personally happened to me, only have heard other experiences on here, so I didn't really know what was happening, like an idiot I even check the fucking closet as if she was playing a game of hide and seek. I then decide to check my phone and that's when I see she sent me a text. She said "hun I just house sit there, you should go before the guys who live there get home", I was so angry but even more just afraid. One of the main reasons if not THE reason I didn't try to "argue" with her to begin with to give her the donation after the shower is because I don't like confrontation, everytime in the past I've tried to give the donation after the deed is done, they always complain, argue, yelling, etc. So If I don't even like to deal with that, you can maybe imagine how panicky I felt that her pimp / bf was coming. I got out of there as quickly as possible, so much so that I put my shirt on backwards. While obviously I'm angry aabout this, I still try to look at the positive out of all this, and pretty much the only "positive" thing I could pull out of this is essentially, lesson learned. While I don't like confrontation I have learned I got to be more assertive and stand my ground, and its prob not just her, you could maybe even argue that any of these girls (including those you think you trust because you've visited multiple times already) will take and exploit the same opportunity that happened to me today if the chance comes up. So again, I'm not avoiding the fact that I approached this situation in a very stupid manner, but I still wanted to share this of course so that others can avoid the same misfortune, and I can also maybe hope that by making this review, that it will negatively affect her "business" (assuming she was already getting a lot of customers). Good luck and safe hunting.
[URL]http://tampa.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/exotic-and-erotic/16033463[/URL][/QUOTE]Sorry to read about your awful experience. I remember reading another had similar problem. Seems like she's working with her bf or pimp to scam us.
Can we think of a way to teach these a lesson. With BP free, how about alerting the experience where these are posted? Not everyone reads this forum or has the.
Membership on the ohTER site but will peruse BP Just an idea. Do your research and stay safe.
[QUOTE=Wamo25;2587023]This chick robbed me, but I'm going to give all the details because in all fairness a lot of it was my fault for making a stupid mistake (s). I had set up an appointment with her and had asked beforehand if I would be able to take a shower when I got there (was sweaty due to working outside prior to appointment) she said that was fine. 2-5 min before I arrive I call her to tell her I'm close and she directs me to her place, she was friendly on the phone, and even when I got in the apt she was friendly. We "screened" each other, she gave me a hug and we chatted a bit. Then came the bad (and otherwise stupid part from my end) part, she asked me for the donation and I left it on the table. Now mind you I had even considered whether I should've done that even before I met up with her, because I already know that is one of the first things they ask for, so in my head before I arrived I was asking myself if should give it to her right then and there, or tell her I would give it to her after the shower, obviously, I went with the first, stupid mistake. I go and take a shower, I wasn't even in there for more than 2 minutes, I get out and she is not in the living room, I see the bedroom door closed and so I open it to see if she is just waiting in there for me but she's not, I already worried at this point, then I check the patio, and then I even open the front door too see if maybe she was just smoking out there, nope. I then kinda start to panic, this was the first time this has personally happened to me, only have heard other experiences on here, so I didn't really know what was happening, like an idiot I even check the fucking closet as if she was playing a game of hide and seek. I then decide to check my phone and that's when I see she sent me a text. She said "hun I just house sit there, you should go before the guys who live there get home", I was so angry but even more just afraid. One of the main reasons if not THE reason I didn't try to "argue" with her to begin with to give her the donation after the shower is because I don't like confrontation, everytime in the past I've tried to give the donation after the deed is done, they always complain, argue, yelling, etc. So If I don't even like to deal with that, you can maybe imagine how panicky I felt that her pimp / bf was coming. I got out of there as quickly as possible, so much so that I put my shirt on backwards. While obviously I'm angry aabout this, I still try to look at the positive out of all this, and pretty much the only "positive" thing I could pull out of this is essentially, lesson learned. While I don't like confrontation I have learned I got to be more assertive and stand my ground, and its prob not just her, you could maybe even argue that any of these girls (including those you think you trust because you've visited multiple times already) will take and exploit the same opportunity that happened to me today if the chance comes up. So again, I'm not avoiding the fact that I approached this situation in a very stupid manner, but I still wanted to share this of course so that others can avoid the same misfortune, and I can also maybe hope that by making this review, that it will negatively affect her "business" (assuming she was already getting a lot of customers). Good luck and safe hunting.
[URL]http://tampa.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/exotic-and-erotic/16033463[/URL][/QUOTE]Man, I am sorry that this happened to you. I think another member was robbed by her and her man / pimp.