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[QUOTE=Ho Hunter 328; 1325906]I suppose pics for ads just magically appear out of thin air, and there's no photographer involved? I suggest you do your homework in the future before making accusations.
Stay safe, and happy hunting.
PS: I just noticed that my posting of MY pictures was my 666th report. Is it just a coincidence that Santa is also an anagram for Satan.[/QUOTE]Original post: [url]http://www.clreviews.com/forums/showthread.php?t=56325[/url]
Is this you?
[QUOTE=Ho Hunter 328; 1323873]Have you all been good little boys this year? I know I have! I was such a good boy, that Mrs Claus sent one of her sexy little elves to visit me tonight. Her name is Anya, and at just 4'11" and 100lbs, she's certainly a sexy elf.
As my gift to all of you this year, I'm going to share some pics with you.
Merry Christmas.
And as always, Stay safe, and happy hunting.[/QUOTE]This is the ad I was talking about: [url]http://www.clreviews.com/forums/showthread.php?t=56325[/url]
[QUOTE=Andri1984; 1326685]Original post:
[url]http://www.clreviews.com/forums/showthread.php?t=56325[/url]
Is this you?[/QUOTE]Ok, lets try this again. Since obviously you can't be bothered to do a little research and look at my posting history, which would have answered your question, I'll break this down to the third grade level.
I am a photographer.
Royal Touch is an escort agency (which is owned by Kat, who is also a member here).
Anya works for Royal Touch.
I am paid by Royal Touch to take pictures of their girls.
Royal Touch then uses these pictures to advertise.
And just to ram my point home, here's a pic of Anya you won't find anywhere else.
Stay safe, and happy hunting.
[QUOTE=Ho Hunter 328; 1326734]Ok, lets try this again. Since obviously you can't be bothered to do a little research and look at my posting history, which would have answered your question, I'll break this down to the third grade level.
I am a photographer.
Royal Touch is an escort agency (which is owned by Kat, who is also a member here).
Anya works for Royal Touch.
I am paid by Royal Touch to take pictures of their girls.
Royal Touch then uses these pictures to advertise.
And just to ram my point home, here's a pic of Anya you won't find anywhere else.
Stay safe, and happy hunting.[/QUOTE]LOL! Nice pics HH as always. Great pic of Anya. But I saw a little redness on her shaved kitty. Are you sure thats all you're doing is taking pics? .
Keep up the great work.
BB
[QUOTE=BaconBits;1325401]Seems like someone is none to happy with you as you were given this utr ladies info in confidence. On another board you are being discussed if I have my facts straight. Seems like you can't be trusted. Not cool![/QUOTE]My apologies to Santa. Looks like a classic misunderstanding on both parts. Sorry to jump to conclusions.
BB
I never look at Eros but happened upon an ad there after googleing a number from BP, and it was one of the few that was located in actual downtown. Anyway, did a little more research on them and it's an agency from Washington DC. The ad ([url]http://www.eros-boston.com/files/248345.htm[/url]) and the guy on the phone made me think that it was a re-boot on a Baltimore agency from mid-2010 that had shut down (it was called VIP Fantasy Girls at the time). I had had several good experiences with them, and one of the two girls had great reviews on another site.
They advertise duos for $600 for the hour or individually for $300. I went with Lindsey who had the great reviews, and holy shit, they were not kidding. The girl is an animal in bed. Claims to prefer anal (although she charges an extra $200. But talked her down to $100). But she is full GFE, has a SICK body. Tan, tight little spinner. And though starts out a little chatty, turns into a full-on porn star when things get rolling.
Light screening required, but not a huge deal. They will be here until Tuesday the 6th and if things go well for them, they plan on returning. I would say RUN, don't walk, to go see this girl. Or hell, go for the three way.
Thanks citydweller for the report below. Does anyone know which other agencies host incall downtown? I used tbd once, and that was downtown. I used boston international a few times, and they've all been in cambridge. But not downtown. Do they ever come downtown?
I'd love to use rsg more, but they're almost always out in the suburbs.
Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks guys.
[QUOTE=Palatino314; 1331472]Thanks citydweller for the report below. Does anyone know which other agencies host incall downtown? I used tbd once, and that was downtown. I used boston international a few times, and they've all been in cambridge. But not downtown. Do they ever come downtown?
I'd love to use rsg more, but they're almost always out in the suburbs.
Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks guys.[/QUOTE]You just described the most under-served clientele of the metro Boston area: guys who would love more options in the city. BI does serve the downtown area, as does BellaD, but other than the occasional independent, and not counting agencies from a decade ago (like Visiting GF's) , mongers are stuck paying top dinero for an hour of fun and games in the city proper. It's not just the hotel rates, because there are rooms to be had most weeks for a rate that gets repaid after a client or two comes calling. No, it seems that the agencies prefer the 'burbs because the heat is less. Or perceived that way. I can think of a few agencies that operate just out of the city that, if they occasionally wanted into downtown, would have more clients in a day than in five days in a Woburn or Saugus notel. Not that any of 'them are asking me.
[QUOTE=Palatino314; 1331472]Thanks citydweller for the report below. Does anyone know which other agencies host incall downtown? I used tbd once, and that was downtown. I used boston international a few times, and they've all been in cambridge. But not downtown. Do they ever come downtown?
I'd love to use rsg more, but they're almost always out in the suburbs.
Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks guys.[/QUOTE]Higher overhead is probably the main reason most agencies don't offer incalls in the downtown area. Lack of parking, and keycard access for hotel elevators is another big reason.
It's been my experience that the majority of clients don't live in Boston, and prefer not to travel there for appointments. Most clients in Boston seem to be traveling on business, and therefore already have a hotel room and are looking for an outcall. That's been my experience anyway.
Xoxo Kat oxox
[QUOTE=Palatino314; 1331472]Thanks citydweller for the report below. Does anyone know which other agencies host incall downtown? I used tbd once, and that was downtown. I used boston international a few times, and they've all been in cambridge. But not downtown. Do they ever come downtown?
I'd love to use rsg more, but they're almost always out in the suburbs.
Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks guys.[/QUOTE]Check out Aphrodite Companions of NYC. I believe they have a number of traveling gals who frequent downtown (burbs too). I have had good luck with them this year. They are a bit more pricy but if you become a "member / customer" you can get $25 off incall so the price for their lower end gals is near TBD or BI. Also, I have been appreciative of some solid recommendations that AC has given me in the past year.
[QUOTE=Palatino314; 1331472]Thanks citydweller for the report below. Does anyone know which other agencies host incall downtown? I used tbd once, and that was downtown. I used boston international a few times, and they've all been in cambridge. But not downtown. Do they ever come downtown?
I'd love to use rsg more, but they're almost always out in the suburbs.
Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks guys.[/QUOTE]Try BI again. I have had all my BI appointments downtown plus their current line up is hard to beat.
[url]http://www.bostonintescorts.com/calender.php[/url]
Also try Boston Sexy as the usually have at least one smoking hot Asian girl at a downtown location.
[url]http://www.bostonsexy.com/nana.html[/url]
Hey, thanks for all the input. You guys are great! So to sum up for those coming late to the conversation, boston international (bi) , belladonna (tbd) , and aphrodite companions (ac) tend to serve downtown.
Also, dittos on boston sexy. Fantastic service, with super hot asian girls. I recently say lola, and she has one of the nicest bodies I've seen on an asian / korean girl in a while. Much better service than even the legendary chanelle's babes at their best. They've served downtown in the past, but my last visit was in cambridge (right off the t) , or I had an option in fenway. Not perfect for those who work downtown, but not bad.
[QUOTE=Pw Herman; 1331949]Try BI again. I have had all my BI appointments downtown plus their current line up is hard to beat.
[url]http://www.bostonintescorts.com/calender.php[/url]
Also try Boston Sexy as the usually have at least one smoking hot Asian girl at a downtown location.
[url]http://www.bostonsexy.com/nana.html[/url][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Palatino314;1332132]Also, dittos on boston sexy. Fantastic service, with super hot asian girls. I recently say lola, and she has one of the nicest bodies I've seen on an asian / korean girl in a while. Much better service than even the legendary chanelle's babes at their best.[/QUOTE]Saw Lola as well a few weeks ago. Still trying to get my bearings! In short, fucking spectacular!
Does anyone have recollection about how thorough the screening process is for BI? I don't have a "regular" provider for references since I mostly monger on the road. Thanks.
I'll go first. Met with Candice for a 'lollipop' special and DATY. That's all I was in the mood for but more is on the table. BBBJ and had to talk her into CIM but she didn't seem to mind at all. She is sweet, pretty and keeps clean. Maybe worth looking into.
[url]http://boston.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/i-got-what-you-want-baby-so-come-and-get-it-80-specials-23/18664420[/url]
Now if anyone here can help. Has anyone visited with Megan? Says she's new in town, but whatever.
[url]http://boston.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/smokin-hot-exotic-very-addictive-top-notch-pleaser-24/19016361[/url]
Thanks. Be safe!
[QUOTE=Palatino314; 1332132]Hey, thanks for all the input. You guys are great! So to sum up for those coming late to the conversation, boston international (bi) , belladonna (tbd) , and aphrodite companions (ac) tend to serve downtown.
Also, dittos on boston sexy. Fantastic service, with super hot asian girls. I recently say lola, and she has one of the nicest bodies I've seen on an asian / korean girl in a while. Much better service than even the legendary chanelle's babes at their best. They've served downtown in the past, but my last visit was in cambridge (right off the t) , or I had an option in fenway. Not perfect for those who work downtown, but not bad.[/QUOTE]AfterDark also serves downtown. But of course, after dark (5pm).
[QUOTE=Palatino314; 1331472]Thanks citydweller for the report below. Does anyone know which other agencies host incall downtown? I used tbd once, and that was downtown. I used boston international a few times, and they've all been in cambridge. But not downtown. Do they ever come downtown?
I'd love to use rsg more, but they're almost always out in the suburbs.
Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks guys.[/QUOTE]Yes, I seen Vivian down town.
Do any of you view craigslist casual encounter women at a higher esteem than backpage girls? I just had this happen to me by a friend. He started as a client and I didn't think much of it when he was I'm on yahoo. Then I guess 6 months into the yahooing he told me that he could see us as friends even after I end providing. Funny at this point I still couldn't remember his name so I had to call his number and listen to his voice message LOL. I was flattered and I started to respond more to his I'm's and we became friends. Well, yesterday he told me that he met someone in another city and he wines and dines her, fucks her in a fancy hotel (actually twice they fucked) and he told me he treats her better than me, because he met her on casual encounters vs backpage (which apparently to him is an inferior site.) She's looking for a sugar daddy and he said she has others but doesn't provide everyday, so he treats her better than he treats me. I felt very hurt and insulted and wrote him an email. He replied back that he thought I wanted something more than a friendship, which he isn't' in the position to give me. I only want to be treated as well as she is being treated. Its so insulting to be told because you are on backpage so I don't take you to dinner or fancy hotels and fuck you for hours on end. It was a sad night because I do consider my regular clients friends, especially him. I want some thoughts and feedback on this and how to deal with him.
[QUOTE=Spill;1334999]AfterDark also serves downtown. But of course, after dark (5pm).[/QUOTE]I've wanted to use AD for many years but I thought they only offered outcall? Have they changed to also offer incall?
[QUOTE=Deb4512;1335271]Do any of you view craigslist casual encounter women at a higher esteem than backpage girls? I just had this happen to me by a friend. He started as a client and I didn't think much of it when he was I'm on yahoo. Then I guess 6 months into the yahooing he told me that he could see us as friends even after I end providing. Funny at this point I still couldn't remember his name so I had to call his number and listen to his voice message LOL. I was flattered and I started to respond more to his I'm's and we became friends. Well, yesterday he told me that he met someone in another city and he wines and dines her, fucks her in a fancy hotel (actually twice they fucked) and he told me he treats her better than me, because he met her on casual encounters vs backpage (which apparently to him is an inferior site.) She's looking for a sugar daddy and he said she has others but doesn't provide everyday, so he treats her better than he treats me. I felt very hurt and insulted and wrote him an email. He replied back that he thought I wanted something more than a friendship, which he isn't' in the position to give me. I only want to be treated as well as she is being treated. Its so insulting to be told because you are on backpage so I don't take you to dinner or fancy hotels and fuck you for hours on end. It was a sad night because I do consider my regular clients friends, especially him. I want some thoughts and feedback on this and how to deal with him.[/QUOTE]Some men seem to think there's a difference between sugar babies and providers. The only difference I see is that sugar babies are MUCH cheaper. As for Casual Encounters and Backpage, they're both a real pain in the ass. Both are full of fakes and scammers. Every once in a while, you will find a real gem on CE though. The kind of girl who could easily be getting several hundred per hour, but because she doesn't know the game she's happy to get $50 to $100. Backpage is a pain for other reasons. You have to weed through all of the girls with fake pics, who post 10 times a day, to find the real providers.
As for your particular issue; the fact that you're upset enough about it to post on a forum, makes it sound like he's right. Are you really this upset about losing a client, or were you actually starting to have feeling for him?
Stay safe, and happy hunting.
[QUOTE=Deb4512;1335271]Do any of you view craigslist casual encounter women at a higher esteem than backpage girls? I just had this happen to me by a friend. He started as a client and I didn't think much of it when he was I'm on yahoo. Then I guess 6 months into the yahooing he told me that he could see us as friends even after I end providing. Funny at this point I still couldn't remember his name so I had to call his number and listen to his voice message LOL. I was flattered and I started to respond more to his I'm's and we became friends. Well, yesterday he told me that he met someone in another city and he wines and dines her, fucks her in a fancy hotel (actually twice they fucked) and he told me he treats her better than me, because he met her on casual encounters vs backpage (which apparently to him is an inferior site.) She's looking for a sugar daddy and he said she has others but doesn't provide everyday, so he treats her better than he treats me. I felt very hurt and insulted and wrote him an email. He replied back that he thought I wanted something more than a friendship, which he isn't' in the position to give me. I only want to be treated as well as she is being treated. Its so insulting to be told because you are on backpage so I don't take you to dinner or fancy hotels and fuck you for hours on end. It was a sad night because I do consider my regular clients friends, especially him. I want some thoughts and feedback on this and how to deal with him.[/QUOTE]That crunching sound is me biting my tongue.
You didn't even know his name?
[QUOTE=Deb4512;1335271]Do any of you view craigslist casual encounter women at a higher esteem than backpage girls? I just had this happen to me by a friend. He started as a client and I didn't think much of it when he was I'm on yahoo. Then I guess 6 months into the yahooing he told me that he could see us as friends even after I end providing. Funny at this point I still couldn't remember his name so I had to call his number and listen to his voice message LOL. I was flattered and I started to respond more to his I'm's and we became friends. Well, yesterday he told me that he met someone in another city and he wines and dines her, fucks her in a fancy hotel (actually twice they fucked) and he told me he treats her better than me, because he met her on casual encounters vs backpage (which apparently to him is an inferior site.) She's looking for a sugar daddy and he said she has others but doesn't provide everyday, so he treats her better than he treats me. I felt very hurt and insulted and wrote him an email. He replied back that he thought I wanted something more than a friendship, which he isn't' in the position to give me. I only want to be treated as well as she is being treated. Its so insulting to be told because you are on backpage so I don't take you to dinner or fancy hotels and fuck you for hours on end. It was a sad night because I do consider my regular clients friends, especially him. I want some thoughts and feedback on this and how to deal with him.[/QUOTE]
I didin't rememver his name until August unfortunately. I guess he got to me when he said he'd like to be my friend after I'm finished escorting. I was really flattered. Before that He was a customer and I do see several of them and can't remember everyone's name. Call it a stupid moment of lack of memory.
[QUOTE=Deb4512;1335821]I didin't rememver his name until August unfortunately. I guess he got to me when he said he'd like to be my friend after I'm finished escorting. I was really flattered. Before that He was a customer and I do see several of them and can't remember everyone's name. Call it a stupid moment of lack of memory.[/QUOTE]Did he look like Richard Gere? Did he try catching your fingers in the jewelry box? ROTFLOL!
I just don't want to be told because I am on backpage I'm low class compared to someone on casual encounters. Thats it and the main gist of it.
I befriended on hobbyist after he pursued me. On befriended. It was stupid of me, I should have kept it all business, my mistake. But to get out of the business? And commit suicide? That is crazy.
[QUOTE=Spill;1335000]Yes, I seen Vivian down town.[/QUOTE]I've used them for a couple years and have seen at least a dozen BI girls, all downtown or in Back Bay.
She was spectacular and made regular trips about 9 months ago. Anybody know if she has retired? Synful desires was her handle.
I don't recommend friending a provider. Most will take you for as much as you are willing to "help" them out with. Money talks. I've heard quite a few horror stories. No thanks.
[QUOTE=BaconBits;1335860]Did he look like Richard Gere? Did he try catching your fingers in the jewelry box? ROTFLOL![/QUOTE]
Sounds like you're getting in too deep with this guy. Also sounds like he's just using your backpage post and other insults to you as a way of manipulating you, whether he means it actually or not. Common tactic.
I have no problems with backpage. If I see a post I'm interested in, I'll just do some research to find what the real story is. And anyways it's pretty easy to figure out immediately whether the ad is legit or not, and whether the ad is worth it or not. There are classy ways of posting on backpage, eros, or. And anyways its a good way to have a "hosted" web page with info and pictures, et cet, without having to build a whole web site.
Be as you are, work the way that works for you. Don't let creeps like that client (or the a-holes on The othEr boaRd bring you down). I don't know you, but I'll give anyone the benefit of the doubt that you're better than that.
[QUOTE=Deb4512;1335271]Do any of you view craigslist casual encounter women at a higher esteem than backpage girls? I just had this happen to me by a friend. He started as a client and I didn't think much of it when he was I'm on yahoo. Then I guess 6 months into the yahooing he told me that he could see us as friends even after I end providing. Funny at this point I still couldn't remember his name so I had to call his number and listen to his voice message LOL. I was flattered and I started to respond more to his I'm's and we became friends. Well, yesterday he told me that he met someone in another city and he wines and dines her, fucks her in a fancy hotel (actually twice they fucked) and he told me he treats her better than me, because he met her on casual encounters vs backpage (which apparently to him is an inferior site.) She's looking for a sugar daddy and he said she has others but doesn't provide everyday, so he treats her better than he treats me. I felt very hurt and insulted and wrote him an email. He replied back that he thought I wanted something more than a friendship, which he isn't' in the position to give me. I only want to be treated as well as she is being treated. Its so insulting to be told because you are on backpage so I don't take you to dinner or fancy hotels and fuck you for hours on end. It was a sad night because I do consider my regular clients friends, especially him. I want some thoughts and feedback on this and how to deal with him.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Wilfredo Lam;1336169]She was spectacular and made regular trips about 9 months ago. Anybody know if she has retired? Synful desires was her handle.[/QUOTE]Chloe was killed in maine, you did not hear about this?
[QUOTE=Deb4512;1335271]Do any of you view craigslist casual encounter women at a higher esteem than backpage girls? I just had this happen to me by a friend. He started as a client and I didn't think much of it when he was I'm on yahoo. Then I guess 6 months into the yahooing he told me that he could see us as friends even after I end providing. Funny at this point I still couldn't remember his name so I had to call his number and listen to his voice message LOL. I was flattered and I started to respond more to his I'm's and we became friends. Well, yesterday he told me that he met someone in another city and he wines and dines her, fucks her in a fancy hotel (actually twice they fucked) and he told me he treats her better than me, because he met her on casual encounters vs backpage (which apparently to him is an inferior site.) She's looking for a sugar daddy and he said she has others but doesn't provide everyday, so he treats her better than he treats me. I felt very hurt and insulted and wrote him an email. He replied back that he thought I wanted something more than a friendship, which he isn't' in the position to give me. I only want to be treated as well as she is being treated. Its so insulting to be told because you are on backpage so I don't take you to dinner or fancy hotels and fuck you for hours on end. It was a sad night because I do consider my regular clients friends, especially him. I want some thoughts and feedback on this and how to deal with him.[/QUOTE]I am not sure if you can take his rationale seriously or not, but if what he said about the difference being where the two of you advertise, he is not very bright. I do not evaluate based on where the ad is, I evaluate based on the quality of the provider. There are some excellent providers who advertise on Backpage and some who advertise on CL and, likewise, there are some awful providers who advertise there. And there are many providers who advertise on both. How would he evaluate those girls?
For the record, I have had the pleasure of a session with Deb, and look forward to more of the same. I don; t care where you advertise, Deb, you are an excellent provider and you made me feel good, we had a good time, and I will be returning.
I think you unfortunately fell for a real loser with that guy, and the best thing to do is forget him and move on.
OP
[QUOTE=Deb4512;1335271]Do any of you view craigslist casual encounter women at a higher esteem than backpage girls? I just had this happen to me by a friend. He started as a client and I didn't think much of it when he was I'm on yahoo. Then I guess 6 months into the yahooing he told me that he could see us as friends even after I end providing. Funny at this point I still couldn't remember his name so I had to call his number and listen to his voice message LOL. I was flattered and I started to respond more to his I'm's and we became friends. Well, yesterday he told me that he met someone in another city and he wines and dines her, fucks her in a fancy hotel (actually twice they fucked) and he told me he treats her better than me, because he met her on casual encounters vs backpage (which apparently to him is an inferior site.) She's looking for a sugar daddy and he said she has others but doesn't provide everyday, so he treats her better than he treats me. I felt very hurt and insulted and wrote him an email. He replied back that he thought I wanted something more than a friendship, which he isn't' in the position to give me. I only want to be treated as well as she is being treated. Its so insulting to be told because you are on backpage so I don't take you to dinner or fancy hotels and fuck you for hours on end. It was a sad night because I do consider my regular clients friends, especially him. I want some thoughts and feedback on this and how to deal with him.[/QUOTE]He probably got too involved (meaning, almost caught by wife or girlfriend) and is making this whole thing about another girl up as an excuse to cool things. His rant about CLCE vs. BP makes zero sense, but even if it was true, what could possibly be his motivation to tell you this? For whatever reason he's backing away and being an asshole to make it easier on himself.
Googled your pictures. Nice! Wish you lived closer.
[QUOTE=Kowabunga;1336940]Googled your pictures. Nice! Wish you lived closer.[/QUOTE]Assuming you're not 4 hours away, take the plunge. Debbie's great.
[QUOTE=Asket;1336588]Chloe was killed in maine, you did not hear about this?[/QUOTE]OMG No! What happened? That is awful.
I posted a question about Chloe of Maine. Can you please delete that post. And my reply to the reply. I am sorry for the inconvenience, but given the tragedy that it describes, I think it best not to be on the Forum. Thank you.
[QUOTE=Wilfredo Lam;1337407]OMG No! What happened? That is awful.[/QUOTE]Yes its sad and tragic, never had a chance to meet her, her sister was involved in some way.
I decided to have some fun today late evening. Spend lot of time finding the right escort. Looked for who is available and who not. Most of my regulars never picked their phones so thought of trying this new gurl from BP. ([url]http://boston.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/fun-and-more-waits-new-sexy-vanessa-22/19052691[/url]).
Pics are fake but easy to setup, arrived at her hotel, asked for 5 mins and then gave her room number so that she can ask her boy friend to go out in cold and stay away.
African American, mid 20s toned body. Booty was great. She also kisses so we started nice. She was ready with rubber but I asked her to wait another 10 mins and let me roam around her curves. Clean gurl. Licked her cracks. Nice and tempting. I thought may be she is ready for greek but no we are not of same page.
Asked her to face away and stroke so that I can see he booty clapping my thighs. Jr had lot of fun. Everything was covered but lot of fun.
[QUOTE=Asket;1337562]Yes its sad and tragic, never had a chance to meet her, her sister was involved in some way.[/QUOTE]Really sad to hear this, wondering when and how it happened?
[QUOTE=Olepapa; 1336793]I am not sure if you can take his rationale seriously or not, but if what he said about the difference being where the two of you advertise, he is not very bright. I do not evaluate based on where the ad is, I evaluate based on the quality of the provider. There are some excellent providers who advertise on Backpage and some who advertise on CL and, likewise, there are some awful providers who advertise there. And there are many providers who advertise on both. How would he evaluate those girls?
For the record, I have had the pleasure of a session with Deb, and look forward to more of the same. I don; t care where you advertise, Deb, you are an excellent provider and you made me feel good, we had a good time, and I will be returning.
I think you unfortunately fell for a real loser with that guy, and the best thing to do is forget him and move on.
OP[/QUOTE]I just want to add my two cents. I have had the pleasure of several sessions with Deb myself. One of them was a get acquainted lunch and a quiet kissing / petting session and the other was a great chit chat that ended with wonderful oral. I would be lying if I didn't admit that the chat and petting sessions for me was by far the most enjoyable I've had with a lady in a very long time. Deb is fun to talk with, can hold and initiate great and interesting conversations and is very adept at kissing / cuddling and the other 'GFE' things that we usually are lacking. My only 'disappointment' was that before I took my economy inspired sabbatical I never made it to the rockin and rollin sweaty sex part of her repoitore. Deb is so good at the build-up I just never made it to the end LOL! But one day I will. SO