Anyone seen danilover85? She's I'd verified at 18 on SA, but her page says she joined back in 2022.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/72b45d40-ee5a-48b2-a209-4ddde2f60b25??locale=en_USS[/URL]
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Anyone seen danilover85? She's I'd verified at 18 on SA, but her page says she joined back in 2022.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/72b45d40-ee5a-48b2-a209-4ddde2f60b25??locale=en_USS[/URL]
[QUOTE=WiscoMN;7079310]Anyone seen danilover85? She's I'd verified at 18 on SA, but her page says she joined back in 2022.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/72b45d40-ee5a-48b2-a209-4ddde2f60b25??locale=en_USS[/URL][/QUOTE]Never met her, but had talked to her last spring. And I stopped talking to her because her location was constantly changing. Sure sign of a rip off artist if you ask me. Oh, and when we talked she said she had just turned 19 (which still didn't make sense at the time).
[QUOTE=WiscoMN;7079310]Anyone seen danilover85? She's I'd verified at 18 on SA, but her page says she joined back in 2022.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/72b45d40-ee5a-48b2-a209-4ddde2f60b25??locale=en_USS[/URL][/QUOTE]Wants money before meet.
I thought I'd share some things I do to vet SB's, along with some lessons I learned. Hopefully it will be helpful.
Never send any money upfront and use a burner phone (but we all know this, right). I've been hit up at the last minute for money for Uber rides, childcare, etc. These are scams. Never verify via video chat. They can screen capture images and threaten to "blow up your life. " A genuine sugar relationship is legal, but there's a stigma.
Tools I sometimes use: Facecheck ID, Pimeyes, Google including reverse image search, Whitepages dot you know the rest, Spydialer, social media.
Free online Civil / criminal record lookup.
Using AI to get info based on their pics can reveal a ton of info. Recently I used AI to search for one of their photos and up popped her orange-suited mugshots. Snipping the photo the mugshot and using google image search led to a local newspaper write-up about how she got busted for narcotics. I'll add that through AI searching I have came across LinkedIn profile pics which I screen snipped to do a google image search for, finding her LinkedIn. I've also busted fakes that use Instagram porn sites. I actually had a good meet with someone who, as I learned prior to meet, was a webcam woman but she was well-reviewed.
If they don't use a voip phone you can sometimes find a lot about a person including their name. I've encountered scenarios where they're tied to businesses and that can give you something to go off of, and whitepages website can reveal age range and other info. Eventually if you get their name it's often possible to run it through court databases.
Before meeting for a meet and greet, I will ask what their standard ppm rate is to see if it works. If they say too high number I won't waste our time. I confirm their age to make sure they are adults. If they text message explicitly it's bye because that's bad news.
One thing I've started to do is, I will ask for them to send a selfie with them holding up a book / pencil / pen and 4 fingers or whatever. This will typically scare scammers away. Although in one instance a scammer but have used really good AI because the photo did the custom pic, although the AI wasn't good enough and I could still spot it. Personally, I will send a mirror selfie with my phone obscuring ½ my face. This helps prevent extortion and AI isn't good enough to search off of it yet. Also if you get a custom from her it reduces the chances of a scammer just not showing up. On 2 occasions I showed up expecting to meet for coffee but was ghosted. Scammer was pissed I said I would only pay in person and just wanted to waste my time, apparently.
After having about 5 successful 1st time meetings at their place / hotel, I will never do this again since I got robbed on one occasion. I will never, ever skip the meet and greet unless there's a lot of feedback on a person from trusted reviewers. The meet and greet for me is at a public venue like a coffee shop. This is basically a vibe check that a lot of scammers won't do, but some do anyways. There's controversy on this point, but I don't mind spoiling $40-60 (tops) on a meet and greet. It shows her I'm a serious SD, and I consider the payment token.
Subsequent dates occur at a hotel of my choosing. I don't mind dropping $80 for peace of mind knowing that I control the environment, and not having to worrying about a dude popping in. Cheap insurance in my book. If I eventually wanted to meet at here place, assuming I knew a lot about her and had many hotel dates, I may consider it, but there's even reports of SB's deciding to become thieves after many hotel dates so you really can't fully trust them ever.
Avoid drug users. You just never know he might OD is your presence or be completely unpredictable. I also wouldn't want to try and explain to LE about how drugs wound up in the hotel room if things got out of control, she OD'ed ect.
In my early days, I wasted money on rinsers who wanted me to spoil large sums for just dinner / coffee meets. Never again. 1-2 dates like that at most for me.
For hotel meets I am very careful about when I hand over the money. That's when the power dynamic changes. She must be in the room, and I try to pay after saying I've been cash and dashed and then when she invariably says no I say half upfront. Usually that won't work and I pay the full donation, which I am okay with because that is standard, but doesn't hurt to ask IMO.
Back when I first started I fell for the let me pay for the hotel room out of your donation scam. Via text, she said she said she had a friend who worked at the front desk, and that she could get a discount off the room and let the room charge be applied against the total donation. I picked her up in my car, skipping the meet and greet, and she directed me to a hotel. She said to wait in my car and then she would take care of the room at text me the number. After 5 minutes, she texted me the number to a top floor room. Sure enough, when I went to the room she wasn't there and she blocked my number. You live and you learn.
I've started to experiment with turning the video camera of my phone on and then turning it off after 2 seconds or so of talking upon meeting, claiming that I am wrapping up an important text message. That way if things go south, I at least have the image of what she really looks like. Being in a genuine sugar relationship is not illegal, or else most couples would be criminals, LOL, as women demand their partner to have more money and spend significantly on them.
Nothing of course is perfectly safe. If a woman were to give me trouble in a hotel I'd exit the room to get into the video recorded hallways right away, letting her do the cash and dash. Sometimes you just meet a bad person and there's nothing you can do outside of physically not letting her leave, which I would never do. If it came to needing a defense attorney, well, they can easily cost $500 not to mention the associated issues.
If there is a LE issue stay silent even though they will pester. Again being in a true sugar relationship isn't illegal but who knows how things can get spun. Also might be a good idea to have a burner phone that is not activated and but can just be used for photo video. No need to have the real burner phone stolen if it comes to that. If she acts weird in the hotel start recording her while leaving toward the door.
Hopefully this info is helpful. Be careful out their folks, you just never know. Can't really trust anyone.
[QUOTE=WiscoMN;7081221]I thought I'd share some things I do to vet SB's, along with some lessons I learned. Hopefully it will be helpful.
Never send any money upfront and use a burner phone (but we all know this, right). I've been hit up at the last minute for money for Uber rides, childcare, etc. These are scams. Never verify via video chat. They can screen capture images and threaten to "blow up your life. " A genuine sugar relationship is legal, but there's a stigma.
Tools I sometimes use: Facecheck ID, Pimeyes, Google including reverse image search, Whitepages dot you know the rest, Spydialer, social media.
Free online Civil / criminal record lookup.
Using AI to get info based on their pics can reveal a ton of info. Recently I used AI to search for one of their photos and up popped her orange-suited mugshots. Snipping the photo the mugshot and using google image search led to a local newspaper write-up about how she got busted for narcotics. I'll add that through AI searching I have came across LinkedIn profile pics which I screen snipped to do a google image search for, finding her LinkedIn. I've also busted fakes that use Instagram porn sites. I actually had a good meet with someone who, as I learned prior to meet, was a webcam woman but she was well-reviewed.
If they don't use a voip phone you can sometimes find a lot about a person including their name. I've encountered scenarios where they're tied to businesses and that can give you something to go off of, and whitepages website can reveal age range and other info. Eventually if you get their name it's often possible to run it through court databases.
Before meeting for a meet and greet, I will ask what their standard ppm rate is to see if it works. If they say too high number I won't waste our time. I confirm their age to make sure they are adults. If they text message explicitly it's bye because that's bad news.[/QUOTE]I used Been Verified. Unlimited searches for about $25 a month. You get lots of information. Does a reverse phone search. Has kept me from a bad meet many many times.
[QUOTE=WiscoMN;7081221]I thought I'd share some things I do to vet SB's, along with some lessons I learned. Hopefully it will be helpful.
Never send any money upfront and use a burner phone (but we all know this, right). I've been hit up at the last minute for money for Uber rides, childcare, etc. These are scams. Never verify via video chat. They can screen capture images and threaten to "blow up your life. " A genuine sugar relationship is legal, but there's a stigma.
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Hopefully this info is helpful. Be careful out their folks, you just never know. Can't really trust anyone.[/QUOTE]Thaks for this, very useful.
Chocolatedream.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/d988840d-1903-4396-902a-14f2720b2319[/URL]
This one had an elaborate scheme. I fell for it.
Met her at a restaurant. Told this story about how she was abused. How I was her first meet on seeking. Everything was going well until we agreed to meet up at her place. She asked for money before we head out to her place. I assumed it was legit. I should have known better. I gave her the $$.
I went to her apt and she arrived before I did. I was at the intercom and asked her to let me in. She asked for more $$$ because she was "nervous" before she let me in. Shame on me! I left the scene.
Be careful boys! They getting creative!
The Bad:
LovelyPink on SDM. Located in Rochester. Very attractive blond, slim, 5 ft 9 inches. Cash and dash. Gave her money for the room. Dumb I know, but for how attractive she is, was worth a shot. Obviously did not work out. Blocked me on SDM. Number 507-XXX-0306.
The Good:
Got in contact with girl from ChilLguy post about an "UTR" in the escort section, where he posted 2 pictures with her number. She is real and decent service, 450 for an hour, bbfscip x2. She said she is on seeking. Can't find her profile for he life of me.
In minecraft of course.
I'm not on SDM, but that same woman did the same thing to me when I met her on Seeking a while back (this was when I was newer to sugar and learned money should only be given once both are in the room and after a meet and greet to vet). I recognize the number you listed and her description.
I picked her up in the evening outside of a residence. She wreaked of weed. Very attractive gal though. Earlier via text she told me she had a friend who worked at the front desk and she could get us a discount on the room and she would use the cost of the room towards the meet fee we agreed on earlier. Once we parked at the La Quinta, she told me she would get the room and text me the room number. I got the text for a room on the top floor, went up, and sure enough she wasn't there. You live and you learn. The pic she used, I now realize, was of a look-a-like.
I propose we set up fake meetings with her using different numbers to waste her time. She may not verify them with a screenname.
[QUOTE=Nashorn;7094348]The Bad:
LovelyPink on SDM. Located in Rochester. Very attractive blond, slim, 5 ft 9 inches. Cash and dash. Gave her money for the room. Dumb I know, but for how attractive she is, was worth a shot. Obviously did not work out. Blocked me on SDM. Number 507-XXX-0306.
The Good:
Got in contact with girl from ChilLguy post about an "UTR" in the escort section, where he posted 2 pictures with her number. She is real and decent service, 450 for an hour, bbfscip x2. She said she is on seeking. Can't find her profile for he life of me.
In minecraft of course.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=WiscoMN;7094662]I'm not on SDM, but that same woman did the same thing to me when I met her on Seeking a while back (this was when I was newer to sugar and learned money should only be given once both are in the room and after a meet and greet to vet). I recognize the number you listed and her description.
I picked her up in the evening outside of a residence. She wreaked of weed. Very attractive gal though. Earlier via text she told me she had a friend who worked at the front desk and she could get us a discount on the room and she would use the cost of the room towards the meet fee we agreed on earlier. Once we parked at the La Quinta, she told me she would get the room and text me the room number. I got the text for a room on the top floor, went up, and sure enough she wasn't there. You live and you learn. The pic she used, I now realize, was of a look-a-like.
I propose we set up fake meetings with her using different numbers to waste her time. She may not verify them with a screenname.[/QUOTE]I was half tempted to just ask before I left to meet, to just let me know if she was a scammer and I would just send her 100. Would have been worth it for not wasting my time. The pictures on her profile are of her.
Two ways one could scam the scammer is try to do stuff in the car with her before going to the hotel. Second would be to give her prop money when she goes in to get the hotel room. If things work out, you can always give her real money in minecraft.
LovelyPink, scammer, operates out of southern MN: Mankato and Rochester area.
[QUOTE=Nashorn;7094348]The Bad:
LovelyPink on SDM. Located in Rochester. Very attractive blond, slim, 5 ft 9 inches. Cash and dash. Gave her money for the room. Dumb I know, but for how attractive she is, was worth a shot. Obviously did not work out. Blocked me on SDM. Number 507-XXX-0306.
The Good:
Got in contact with girl from ChilLguy post about an "UTR" in the escort section, where he posted 2 pictures with her number. She is real and decent service, 450 for an hour, bbfscip x2. She said she is on seeking. Can't find her profile for he life of me..[/QUOTE]
Hey fellas.
I've been on WYP for a year and have met with two girls, neither turned out be keepers, and most of my coins have now been burned on bots and OF gals that want me to buy online porn. I won't be reupping there any time soon. I signed up for SDM and immediately got contacted by our scammer, LovelyPink. I think I'll string her along a bit and if any of you guys have an idea for a long-con we can use to give her back a bit of frustration I'd be interested.
My question today: is Secret Benefits fairly legit? If a gal has "verified" status does that means she's more likely to be legit and not a bot or scammer? If not SB, which sites are worth the investment?
Also, thanks Wisco for the sage advice. I intend to use your ideas.
[QUOTE=Booger2020;7098756]Hey fellas.
I've been on WYP for a year and have met with two girls, neither turned out be keepers, and most of my coins have now been burned on bots and OF gals that want me to buy online porn. I won't be reupping there any time soon. I signed up for SDM and immediately got contacted by our scammer, LovelyPink. I think I'll string her along a bit and if any of you guys have an idea for a long-con we can use to give her back a bit of frustration I'd be interested.
My question today: is Secret Benefits fairly legit? If a gal has "verified" status does that means she's more likely to be legit and not a bot or scammer? If not SB, which sites are worth the investment?
Also, thanks Wisco for the sage advice. I intend to use your ideas.[/QUOTE]Secret Benefits is not legit. It has many fake profiles, very few legit responses, and is a waste of time and money. Seeking is the biggest site. I have experienced a higher response rate on SDM.
I've only used Seeking, so I'm not that knowledgeable about the other sites. I'm taking a break for a while from sugar sites but I think next time around I may try SB. I think with Seeking it only makes sense to sign up for 1 month at a time, for maybe twice a year. The rooster of legit women don't come and go all that often from the site. Discount codes can be found online. I don't believe they expire. Or if you sign up, but do not actually pay, within a couple weeks or so they will send an offer for 20% off since they don't think they'll hook you with the higher price. The site was worth it for me but it is very very time consuming, lots of scammers to sift through, flakes, and those with unrealistic financial expectations. In addition to sugar babies on the site, there are straight up escorts. I've had quite a bit of success on there (3 months spread out over the course of a year). I think I had about 9 meet ups that eventually led to intimacy. For me the site is addictive. Good response rate from women compared to normal dating apps. Before my account expired, and I'd lose the ability to message, I sent a canned email out to many women giving them my burner number so they could reach me that way.
[QUOTE=Booger2020;7098756]Hey fellas.
I've been on WYP for a year and have met with two girls, neither turned out be keepers, and most of my coins have now been burned on bots and OF gals that want me to buy online porn. I won't be reupping there any time soon. I signed up for SDM and immediately got contacted by our scammer, LovelyPink. I think I'll string her along a bit and if any of you guys have an idea for a long-con we can use to give her back a bit of frustration I'd be interested.
My question today: is Secret Benefits fairly legit? If a gal has "verified" status does that means she's more likely to be legit and not a bot or scammer? If not SB, which sites are worth the investment?
Also, thanks Wisco for the sage advice. I intend to use your ideas.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Booger2020;7098756]Hey fe
I've been on WYP for a year and have met with two girls, neither turned out be keepers, and most of my coins have now been burned on bots and OF gals that want me to buy online porn. I won't be reupping there any time soon. I signed up for SDM and immediately got contacted by our scammer, LovelyPink. I think I'll string her along a bit and if any of you guys have an idea for a long-con we can use to give her back a bit of frustration I'd be interested.
My question today: is Secret Benefits fairly legit? If a gal has "verified" status does that means she's more likely to be legit and not a bot or scammer? If not SB, which sites are worth the investment?
Also, thanks Wisco for the sage advice. I intend to use your ideas.[/QUOTE]Secret Benefits: Tons of bots / scammers and the site will spam messages from SB accounts to try to get SDs to burn credits. Never pay to see unsolicited messages unless you would have reached out to them first. Never pay to see hidden pics. Just message and if you are interested, move comms to text and get them for free. Never pay to highlight / promote your message. Total fool's gold.
Only pay to send messages to those you are interested in. That's it. I also work in 'not interested in virtual, OF, or flying people in' and 'I will bend over backwards if we meet to go close to you in a safe, public place, and will cover costs within reason once we actually meet. I will NEVER send $ in advance for gas, security, to show I'm serious, etc. If that is your requirement, let's not waste each other's time.'
I find SB best for PMP and when traveling. Lower avg hotness but more open minded. Smaller pool than Seeking though. WYP is okay. I've had some luck but I target a specific type and price point. They've since required a face pic which undermines 'seeking discretion / discreet affairs' - completely ridiculous so closed that shit down.