Sugar Baby

[QUOTE=HardHat69;6333943]So recently over on SA I was flagged for apparently talking too much about monetary issues and / or date details and desires. Now, I consider myself pretty conservative when messaging anyone, anywhere, so I was a bit surprised by this. I usually don't say much until I at least get a phone number. But they are transitioning the site away from "arrangements" and SD / SA, to more of a traditional dating model supposedly. So it seems like any talk about money is considered solicitation. This goes for offers of gifts, gift cards, ppm, etc. , as well as any talk of cash apps and the like. You see, I learned of this after watching the required get out of jail video, and signing off on a promise to be a good boy from here on forward. Otherwise I could be permanently banned. I hope this is not the beginning of the end, since I was having some good luck with the site.[/QUOTE]I had this happen to me about a year and a half ago with the same promise to be a good boy as a requirement for lifting the suspension.

I don't think there is anything new going on and transitioning to a traditional dating model would be a colossal strategic blunder.

They have not bothered me since and I think they need to document these lectures and actions to demonstrate that they don't permit illegal activity.

[QUOTE=Surfer54;6333227]Well I try not to waste a providers time or mine for that matter. So if I know someone is out of my range from the beginning I won't even contact them. And that's the reason I raised the subject of the lack of information. Also I've been doing this long enough to know to steer clear of the upsetters. Providers who say 1 amount and then you there and all of a sudden it's "Oh for that it's X amount" No thank you. It's my view we are all here to help each other. Just sayin'.[/QUOTE]We can definitely agree on that. We are all here to help each other out. While I'm sure it was not your intent, criticizing the manner with which that help is offered strikes me as a little obtuse.

Upsellers annoy me too but I can't remember the last time I bumped into one of those.

Happy hunting.

[QUOTE=Pbfla321;6333995]She can be a good fuck. But I know she's got issues. And the deal breaker for me is the twice daily texts asking to see her. That gets really old quick with me! I've even told her to stop and she continued to text. Good thing is I don't have someone in my life otherwise I can see that causing big time problems.[/QUOTE]She's trying to gather up funds to get her next fix. I know from experience certain members are blinded by it. Even after he's said he won't help her no more. But then he is bragging on every post about her. Give me a f-ing break. That's why she was a complete mess on the one visit. Not worth it to me anymore SA is a lot better. Not sure why posting was under sugar baby thread she's on tryst so don't see that a SB site. Lmao.

Bs.

[QUOTE=HardHat69;6333943]So recently over on SA I was flagged for apparently talking too much about monetary issues and / or date details and desires. Now, I consider myself pretty conservative when messaging anyone, anywhere, so I was a bit surprised by this. I usually don't say much until I at least get a phone number. But they are transitioning the site away from "arrangements" and SD / SA, to more of a traditional dating model supposedly. So it seems like any talk about money is considered solicitation. This goes for offers of gifts, gift cards, ppm, etc. , as well as any talk of cash apps and the like. You see, I learned of this after watching the required get out of jail video, and signing off on a promise to be a good boy from here on forward. Otherwise I could be permanently banned. I hope this is not the beginning of the end, since I was having some good luck with the site.[/QUOTE]I suggest that you find a way to talk off line as quickly as possible for several reasons.

[QUOTE=TheLibertarian;6334479]I suggest that you find a way to talk off line as quickly as possible for several reasons.[/QUOTE]Yes, that is what I usually do. It could be something that was said back to me in the conversation. A couple of times I was surprised at the level of detail that was coming from the girl's side.

[QUOTE=PureGent;6334049]I had this happen to me about a year and a half ago with the same promise to be a good boy as a requirement for lifting the suspension.

I don't think there is anything new going on and transitioning to a traditional dating model would be a colossal strategic blunder.

They have not bothered me since and I think they need to document these lectures and actions to demonstrate that they don't permit illegal activity.[/QUOTE]I believe they did take the "Arrangements" part off the name and now it's just "Seeking".

[QUOTE=HardHat69;6333943]So recently over on SA I was flagged for apparently talking too much about monetary issues and / or date details and desires. Now, I consider myself pretty conservative when messaging anyone, anywhere, so I was a bit surprised by this. I usually don't say much until I at least get a phone number. But they are transitioning the site away from "arrangements" and SD / SA, to more of a traditional dating model supposedly. So it seems like any talk about money is considered solicitation. This goes for offers of gifts, gift cards, ppm, etc. , as well as any talk of cash apps and the like. You see, I learned of this after watching the required get out of jail video, and signing off on a promise to be a good boy from here on forward. Otherwise I could be permanently banned. I hope this is not the beginning of the end, since I was having some good luck with the site.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=PureGent;6334049]I had this happen to me about a year and a half ago with the same promise to be a good boy as a requirement for lifting the suspension.

I don't think there is anything new going on and transitioning to a traditional dating model would be a colossal strategic blunder.

They have not bothered me since and I think they need to document these lectures and actions to demonstrate that they don't permit illegal activity.[/QUOTE]SA charges you to be a member and use it services but doesn't want it's members charging for their services. Alanis Morissette should update her song.

[QUOTE=HardHat69;6334520]I believe they did take the "Arrangements" part off the name and now it's just "Seeking".[/QUOTE]I stand corrected. I hadn't looked at their homepage and marketing stuff in a while and it certainly does read much more traditional. Yikes.

[QUOTE=HardHat69;6334517]Yes, that is what I usually do. It could be something that was said back to me in the conversation. A couple of times I was surprised at the level of detail that was coming from the girl's side.[/QUOTE]Details are almost always bad. I put that in the LEO, fraud, or admin category when I encounter it. Almost always accompanied by a single picture and a profile just created.

[QUOTE=BigStud47;6334472]She's trying to gather up funds to get her next fix. I know from experience certain members are blinded by it. Even after he's said he won't help her no more. But then he is bragging on every post about her. Give me a f-ing break. That's why she was a complete mess on the one visit. Not worth it to me anymore SA is a lot better. Not sure why posting was under sugar baby thread she's on tryst so don't see that a SB site. Lmao.

Bs.[/QUOTE]Man BS, I would live to hear your story on why you hate her so much. You seem to get a hardon every time someone tries to post something positive about Julia. My most recent visits with her have been great experiences, with good comms, clean incalls and a very favorable GFE. I still haven't found anyone else in the local area that checks all my boxes like she does. I would still highly recommend to anyone wanting a great time. She has a story to tell, with goals in mind and I personally support her in her journey to accomplish them, and I wish her the best of luck.

About being under sugar baby, I agree but, Hell I wish I could afford to be a sugar daddy to her. She is well worth every Mario, and would be a great experience.

RS.

[QUOTE=BigStud47;6334472]She's trying to gather up funds to get her next fix. I know from experience certain members are blinded by it. Even after he's said he won't help her no more. But then he is bragging on every post about her. Give me a f-ing break. That's why she was a complete mess on the one visit. Not worth it to me anymore SA is a lot better. Not sure why posting was under sugar baby thread she's on tryst so don't see that a SB site. Lmao.

Bs.[/QUOTE]Very seldom do I see such vile hatred from someone. There must be some reason. Drugs may be the reason she was a mess, I don't know. This was not my read. We set the appointment for a later than I had wanted because of personal problems that is not my place to discuss.

As far as to why I opted to put this on the sugar baby page, it's because that's where I found her. No, she is not the only lady written about on the sugar baby page that has listings by the hour, When I saw she was listed on Tryst, I almost changed my mind. Mainly because that was not what I was looking for that night.

As far as looking for cash for her next fix, she almost left without getting paid. I put the money in her bag. The second time she came, she let me know there was no charge, after she was already there. This does not sound like someone that was needing cash for a fix. I admit, I don't have experience with drugs and do not know the signs. When I put the money in her bag, she also did not check to see how much. I was actually shocked by this.

Also this experience was more like a sugar baby, as we did talk out on the patio for a bit, which is part of hat I was looking for, She never told me an amount to give. E had discussed spending the night, and what she said was, most men gave her 6 to ik for waking up to her in the morning. She was there for 2 hours and I gave her $$$.

I did look for her reviews before having her come. I spent about two hours and what I read was good.

Now bigstud, I don't know you, I live in Orlando, so don't read the reviews often in this area. I appreciate when a person is not afraid to express negative aspects. In this case, you were bringing oUt negative aspects of my time. I could have written more details in, but honestly thought that would have been lost with the long post I had already written. I do look forward to reading your sugarbaby posts, and possibly askINg you for info. We are here to help each other.

This paragraph was in the middle of your first post on Julia. Granted, the bulk of the rest of your post was very favorable, but this was how you described your first meeting with Julia.

[QUOTE=TheLibertarian;6333751]
She comes by and everything is a mess. Frantic and scatterbrained is the best way I can put it. I felt exxremely uncomfortable for me. My first thought was how in the hell did she get all of these people to say good things about her, and second thought was something was off. When she left she never asked for any money, as she seemed to be in too big of a hurry. I ended up putting the donation in the bag. I never said anything to her, as it was far enough off from what people said, something had to be off.[/QUOTE]Then from BS:

[QUOTE=BigStud47;6334472]She's trying to gather up funds to get her next fix. I know from experience certain members are blinded by it. Even after he's said he won't help her no more. But then he is bragging on every post about her. Give me a f-ing break. That's why she was a complete mess on the one visit. Not worth it to me anymore SA is a lot better. Not sure why posting was under sugar baby thread she's on tryst so don't see that a SB site. Lmao.

Bs.[/QUOTE]Then your response:

[QUOTE=TheLibertarian;6335484]Very seldom do I see such vile hatred from someone. There must be some reason. Drugs may be the reason she was a mess, I don't know. This was not my read. We set the appointment for a later than I had wanted because of personal problems that is not my place to discuss.

As far as to why I opted to put this on the sugar baby page, it's because that's where I found her. No, she is not the only lady written about on the sugar baby page that has listings by the hour, When I saw she was listed on Tryst, I almost changed my mind. Mainly because that was not what I was looking for that night.

As far as looking for cash for her next fix, she almost left without getting paid. I put the money in her bag. The second time she came, she let me know there was no charge, after she was already there. This does not sound like someone that was needing cash for a fix. I admit, I don't have experience with drugs and do not know the signs. When I put the money in her bag, she also did not check to see how much. I was actually shocked by this.

Also this experience was more like a sugar baby, as we did talk out on the patio for a bit, which is part of hat I was looking for, She never told me an amount to give. E had discussed spending the night, and what she said was, most men gave her 6 to ik for waking up to her in the morning. She was there for 2 hours and I gave her $$$.

I did look for her reviews before having her come. I spent about two hours and what I read was good.

Now bigstud, I don't know you, I live in Orlando, so don't read the reviews often in this area. I appreciate when a person is not afraid to express negative aspects. In this case, you were bringing oUt negative aspects of my time. I could have written more details in, but honestly thought that would have been lost with the long post I had already written. I do look forward to reading your sugarbaby posts, and possibly askINg you for info. We are here to help each other.[/QUOTE]I've met Julia twice. My first meeting with her was a few years back. She was new to the hobby and it showed, suffice it to say the meeting was something less than great. Due to my disappointment, I didn't see her for a long time. Then she got a lot of favorable reviews, a LOT of them! I decided to see her again, after all, surely the "new to the hobby" aspect should have long since passed her by. Unfortunately, my second visit wasn't a lot better, in fact, it was much like the paragraph above from your review. She was running late, when she finally gave me her room number and I entered the room, it looked like she was in the middle of running errands or doing chores, wearing very casual clothing and looking a bit unkempt. She talked, a LOT, about random subjects. As to the deed, it was alright, nothing special.

Here's the takeaway. For ME, my meetings with Julia were less than ideal and I doubt I'd give her a third chance. For YOU, or ANYONE that enjoys seeing her, continue to do so. Our differences are what make the world go round! Some guys like old, some like young. Some guys like tall, some like short. Some like BBW, some like a spinner. If we all liked the same providers, those providers would be worn the hell out and the rest would be lined up at Walmart looking for jobs.

[QUOTE=JayJayTwo;6335909]This paragraph was in the middle of your first post on Julia. Granted, the bulk of the rest of your post was very favorable, but this was how you described your first meeting with Julia.

Then from BS:

Then your response:

I've met Julia twice. My first meeting with her was a few years back. She was new to the hobby and it showed, suffice it to say the meeting was something less than great. Due to my disappointment, I didn't see her for a long time. Then she got a lot of favorable reviews, a LOT of them! I decided to see her again, after all, surely the "new to the hobby" aspect should have long since passed her by. Unfortunately, my second visit wasn't a lot better, in fact, it was much like the paragraph above from your review. She was running late, when she finally gave me her room number and I entered the room, it looked like she was in the middle of running errands or doing chores, wearing very casual clothing and looking a bit unkempt. She talked, a LOT, about random subjects. As to the deed, it was alright, nothing special.

Here's the takeaway. For ME, my meetings with Julia were less than ideal and I doubt I'd give her a third chance. For YOU, or ANYONE that enjoys seeing her, continue to do so. Our differences are what make the world go round! Some guys like old, some like young. Some guys like tall, some like short. Some like BBW, some like a spinner. If we all liked the same providers, those providers would be worn the hell out and the rest would be lined up at Walmart looking for jobs.[/QUOTE]BS reached out to me to let me know he was not attacking me. I did appreciate that, but never did. The only thing I sort of took offense to, was questioning why I put this in the sugar baby section, but I addressed that.

You are correct, my first meeting with her was so bad that I could not comprehend the good reviews. I have no problem with people explaining what they did not like. Actually, it's sort of important. My point to BS was the way he wrote the post seemed more of a strong dislike than explaining faults.

I didn't mean to start a shitstorm LOL. I did try to be as honest as possible.

[QUOTE=TheLibertarian;6336003](snip)I did try to be as honest as possible.(snip)[/QUOTE]And that was my point! Thank you for that, sir! What's "honest" and enjoyable for you, may not be the same for me. As before though, you do what makes you happy and I'll do the same! So long as we're all reporting our encounters in an "honest" fashion, it's all good!

[QUOTE=TheLibertarian;6336003]

I didn't mean to start a shitstorm LOL. I did try to be as honest as possible.[/QUOTE]I do think it's proper to present an honest review. Sometimes these girls have good days and bad, but the totality of all the reviews + vs - , usually paints the picture. There is always the YMMV part as well. As has been stated, different folks can like and experience different things. Truthful contribution is always welcome.

[QUOTE=HardHat69;6336112]I do think it's proper to present an honest review. Sometimes these girls have good days and bad, but the totality of all the reviews + vs - , usually paints the picture. There is always the YMMV part as well. As has been stated, different folks can like and experience different things. Truthful contribution is always welcome.[/QUOTE]There have been several occasions where I wrote a review that was contrary to popular opinion and, while I figured I might get put on blast, I did it anyway because I figured (hoped) the honest review would be appreciated by other like minded individuals.

[QUOTE=TheLibertarian;6336003]BS reached out to me to let me know he was not attacking me. I did appreciate that, but never did. The only thing I sort of took offense to, was questioning why I put this in the sugar baby section, but I addressed that.

You are correct, my first meeting with her was so bad that I could not comprehend the good reviews. I have no problem with people explaining what they did not like. Actually, it's sort of important. My point to BS was the way he wrote the post seemed more of a strong dislike than explaining faults.

I didn't mean to start a shitstorm LOL. I did try to be as honest as possible.[/QUOTE]You were perfectly in the right of posting this in this section. There is more sites than just seeking. I found Julia on the secret benefit site. I just won't reach out to her anymore. For me I rather just use my hand to rub that one out instead of spending the money on her. And also like Jay said it's a to each his own type of date with her. Not that she was horrible or anything, just not to my liking.

[QUOTE=Pbfla321;6336307]You were perfectly in the right of posting this in this section. There is more sites than just seeking. I found Julia on the secret benefit site. I just won't reach out to her anymore. For me I rather just use my hand to rub that one out instead of spending the money on her. And also like Jay said it's a to each his own type of date with her. Not that she was horrible or anything, just not to my liking.[/QUOTE]You are absolutely correct. To each their own. Hell many times I am looking for something different, depending on mood or situation. You don't need ti explain why you don't like someone or if you want to be with them.

[QUOTE=JayJayTwo;6336305]There have been several occasions where I wrote a review that was contrary to popular opinion and, while I figured I might get put on blast, I did it anyway because I figured (hoped) the honest review would be appreciated by other like minded individuals.[/QUOTE]I cannot count the times that I took a position that I knew was different from the popular opinion. Many times people I didn't expect to agree with me did, Stick to your values instead of trying to impress others. I do usually try to stay respectful.

Sierra is a 25 year old young lady. She is very sweet and definitely not professional. She is not trying to get rich, but just get by. She spent an evening with me and was not in a rush to leave in the morning She is average looking. When I asked her to send me a picture of her butt, she sent me one with a butt plug. I am not going to talk money, as I will ket you negotiate on your own. When she sowed up, she did show up in sweats, not something attractive. In her add she said she was obedient. She does not like people messing with her feet. I ill only give her information to senior members, I am certain you would have a good time.

[QUOTE=TheLibertarian;6336822]Sierra is a 25 year old young lady. She is very sweet and definitely not professional. She is not trying to get rich, but just get by. She spent an evening with me and was not in a rush to leave in the morning She is average looking. When I asked her to send me a picture of her butt, she sent me one with a butt plug. I am not going to talk money, as I will ket you negotiate on your own. When she sowed up, she did show up in sweats, not something attractive. In her add she said she was obedient. She does not like people messing with her feet. I ill only give her information to senior members, I am certain you would have a good time.[/QUOTE]She sounds like an interesting young lady. If I reach out to someone under 30 on that site I tend to gravitate to the average looking 20 somethings. My only problem with them is that very few can host. I've been communicating with one down in Stuart and unfortunately she can't host but is willing to play in my suv. She was the one that actually brought up that option. Kind of an intriguing offer even for an old man like me!

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[QUOTE=RedDog101;6337983]What the fuck is your problem? Did she tell you to go fuck yourself and now you're trying to get back at her or stalk her? I have been with her many times and she is the ultimate GFE, at least to me.[/QUOTE]If you don't like what I have to say then fix it put me on your ignore list then you won't have to read my reports. This is the purpose of the forum.

Bs.

Well ya I will be going broke seeing this nice lady several times a week. Love how I can contact her and I get a reply with in 3 min then in my room within 17 min. And what a rocking good time she is. She seems to never disappoint and I think she brought a bigger bottle of KY with her this time. I daty and with in 1 min she was pushing my head away.

HH I need a roommate!! Lmao.

Bb.

You sir did not start a shitstorm, you posted an honest review of a provider. That's why we are here. Others however post crap, that they know nothing of, based on years past. They haven't seen the provider themselves for years or are even posting a review of the provider. They are posting shit, that they pass off as their opinion, because of some personal vendetta against them. Everyone's review is YMMV, to each his own. And I agree and respect those reviews. But just to bash any provider for the sake of bashing them is BS.

How about we show some respect and support or local providers more, that work hard day and night, to provide the service that we are looking for when we are looking for it. That we are willing to donate for and return time and time again to get more of the same. The profession is hard enough as it is, dealing with all of our bullshit day in and day out, worrying about LEO, creeps, stalkers and general asshats. Show some fucking gratitude for what they endure on a daily basis. Stop haggling over donations because you are just trying to get your rocks off for next to nothing. If that's what you are looking for, drive around and pick it up off the street. The ones that don't have an overhead of pricey hotel rooms. Outfits and shoes. Makeup and "supplies" to make the experience memorable. Allow them the opportunity to provide what we are looking for, donating for their time, respect them as human beings and not as trash or a sex doll, unless that is your bag and what you are donating to receive. Maybe then, the good ones won't burn out, other quality providers will come out of hiding.

[QUOTE=TheLibertarian;6336003]BS reached out to me to let me know he was not attacking me. I did appreciate that, but never did. The only thing I sort of took offense to, was questioning why I put this in the sugar baby section, but I addressed that.

You are correct, my first meeting with her was so bad that I could not comprehend the good reviews. I have no problem with people explaining what they did not like. Actually, it's sort of important. My point to BS was the way he wrote the post seemed more of a strong dislike than explaining faults.

I didn't mean to start a shitstorm LOL. I did try to be as honest as possible.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=JayJayTwo;6336018]And that was my point! Thank you for that, sir! What's "honest" and enjoyable for you, may not be the same for me. As before though, you do what makes you happy and I'll do the same! So long as we're all reporting our encounters in an "honest" fashion, it's all good![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=HardHat69;6336112]I do think it's proper to present an honest review. Sometimes these girls have good days and bad, but the totality of all the reviews + vs - , usually paints the picture. There is always the YMMV part as well. As has been stated, different folks can like and experience different things. Truthful contribution is always welcome.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=JayJayTwo;6336305]There have been several occasions where I wrote a review that was contrary to popular opinion and, while I figured I might get put on blast, I did it anyway because I figured (hoped) the honest review would be appreciated by other like minded individuals.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BigStud47;6338077]Well ya I will be going broke seeing this nice lady several times a week. Love how I can contact her and I get a reply with in 3 min then in my room within 17 min. And what a rocking good time she is. She seems to never disappoint and I think she brought a bigger bottle of KY with her this time. I daty and with in 1 min she was pushing my head away.

HH I need a roommate!! Lmao.

Bb.[/QUOTE]You just bragging or do you feel like sharing some info?

I am going to apologize in advance for the long post.

Cliff Notes are she is an awesome lady!

Do you have a link?

[QUOTE=Eustisflman;6338507]I am going to apologize in advance for the long post.

Cliff Notes are she is an awesome lady!

Do you have a link?[/QUOTE]Considering how much drama this post caused, I don't think a link is hard to find LOL. Here you go [URL]https://www.sugardaddy.com/[/URL]. I tried to link directly to profile but could not.

[QUOTE=TheLibertarian;6338541]Considering how much drama this post caused, I don't think a link is hard to find LOL. Here you go [URL]https://www.sugardaddy.com/[/URL].[/QUOTE]And here I am looking at seeking for her. So that helps.

[QUOTE=Eustisflman;6338551]And here I am looking at seeking for her. So that helps.[/QUOTE]Wasn't trying to be a jerk. When I copied the link thought it would take directly.

[QUOTE=BigStud47;6338077]Well ya I will be going broke seeing this nice lady several times a week. Love how I can contact her and I get a reply with in 3 min then in my room within 17 min. And what a rocking good time she is. She seems to never disappoint and I think she brought a bigger bottle of KY with her this time. I daty and with in 1 min she was pushing my head away.

HH I need a roommate!! Lmao.

Bb.[/QUOTE]Are we talking about our friend, Val? She is a blast to hang out with. Good communications, shows up on time. She is always clean, fresh and dressed sexy. She is probably one of the most orgasmic woman I've been with.

[QUOTE=NattyDread;6338762]Are we talking about our friend, Val? She is a blast to hang out with. Good communications, shows up on time. She is always clean, fresh and dressed sexy. She is probably one of the most orgasmic woman I've been with.[/QUOTE]Yes sir you are absolutely correct.

Bs.

[QUOTE=BigStud47;6338795]Yes sir you are absolutely correct.

Bs.[/QUOTE]You should ask her to bring her favorite toy with her.

I just woke up from a dream with Julia today. As always top service. However, we did discuss what has been said on the forums, no bitching or complaints, she just wants to be left alone. Lib hit the nail on the head. No charge for her second visit. She even showed me her past cash app transactions where she returned money to other gentlemen for cancelled dates etc. Surely that isn't someone looking for her next fix, as BS stated. I'm sure she isn't the only one, but I am damn sure and know for a fact a lot of other providers would have said pack sand, blocked you, or even tried to take you for a ride a second time. For the same costs. Now, please show me other providers in our area that would go out of their way to make sure the experience with them was worth it. Free visits. Refunded money. Yeah, I don't think she is looking for her next fix. She's human, makes mistakes and has off days sure, but she is trying to be the best she can be, while obtaining her goals and plans. Julia has been my ATF from my first experience with her and I doubt that will change anytime soon. She is in a class of her own, hands down one of the best if not the best. Again YMMV, and to each his own.

[QUOTE=TheLibertarian;6333751] *snip* After we were finished, she let me know she didn't want anything this time, she just wanted to make it right, [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BigStud47;6334472]She's trying to gather up funds to get her next fix. I know from experience certain members are blinded by it. Even after he's said he won't help her no more. But then he is bragging on every post about her. Give me a f-ing break. That's why she was a complete mess on the one visit. Not worth it to me anymore SA is a lot better. Not sure why posting was under sugar baby thread she's on tryst so don't see that a SB site. Lmao.

Bs.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TheLibertarian;6335484] As far as looking for cash for her next fix, she almost left without getting paid. I put the money in her bag. The second time she came, she let me know there was no charge, after she was already there. This does not sound like someone that was needing cash for a fix. I admit, I don't have experience with drugs and do not know the signs. When I put the money in her bag, she also did not check to see how much. I was actually shocked by this.

Also this experience was more like a sugar baby, as we did talk out on the patio for a bit, which is part of hat I was looking for, She never told me an amount to give. E had discussed spending the night, and what she said was, most men gave her 6 to ik for waking up to her in the morning. She was there for 2 hours and I gave her $$$.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=RoughSea;6339165]I just woke up from a dream with Julia today. As always top service. However, we did discuss what has been said on the forums, no bitching or complaints, she just wants to be left alone. Lib hit the nail on the head. No charge for her second visit. She even showed me her past cash app transactions where she returned money to other gentlemen for cancelled dates etc. Surely that isn't someone looking for her next fix, as BS stated. I'm sure she isn't the only one, but I am damn sure and know for a fact a lot of other providers would have said pack sand, blocked you, or even tried to take you for a ride a second time. For the same costs. Now, please show me other providers in our area that would go out of their way to make sure the experience with them was worth it. Free visits. Refunded money. Yeah, I don't think she is looking for her next fix. She's human, makes mistakes and has off days sure, but she is trying to be the best she can be, while obtaining her goals and plans. Julia has been my ATF from my first experience with her and I doubt that will change anytime soon. She is in a class of her own, hands down one of the best if not the best. Again YMMV, and to each his own.[/QUOTE]Got a big favor to ask, please do not refer to me as lib LOL.

I hate the fact that my post has so much drama attached to it. That was not the intent at all. BigStud made a very stronjstatement about Julia showing he is not a big fan. That has been answered many times. He did not come bacj and expand on it. A far as I am concerned it is over until someone does. I know she had personal issues the first night that would have affected most people. I as impressed that she came back and would not take a donation to make certain I was happy. This is especially true since I didn't complain So please no one bring up that was because she was tryimg to get a fix. Thats is dead and over.


Feel free to state why you like her, or things you perceive as faults, Thats what this board should be about. We have nough drama in our lives to have it here as well/ I personally am very impressedvover all. it is pergectly ok if you are not.

[QUOTE=RoughSea;6339165]I just woke up from a dream with Julia today. As always top service. However, we did discuss what has been said on the forums, no bitching or complaints, she just wants to be left alone. Lib hit the nail on the head. No charge for her second visit. She even showed me her past cash app transactions where she returned money to other gentlemen for cancelled dates etc. Surely that isn't someone looking for her next fix, as BS stated. I'm sure she isn't the only one, but I am damn sure and know for a fact a lot of other providers would have said pack sand, blocked you, or even tried to take you for a ride a second time. For the same costs. Now, please show me other providers in our area that would go out of their way to make sure the experience with them was worth it. Free visits. Refunded money. Yeah, I don't think she is looking for her next fix. She's human, makes mistakes and has off days sure, but she is trying to be the best she can be, while obtaining her goals and plans. Julia has been my ATF from my first experience with her and I doubt that will change anytime soon. She is in a class of her own, hands down one of the best if not the best. Again YMMV, and to each his own.[/QUOTE]I found Julia to be very sweet and accommodating, she likes to talk but it is great conversation and not dribble, she was not at all off put by any of my interests, and made me feel good about myself, and not just a blow and go so to speak, I will definitely see again and recommend her. Of course with anything YMMV.

Pinched on Thursday for cocaine, that's twice now in 2 months.

I have never met with her, she always tries to finagle up front money.

I don't know what to make of all this but here are the facts:

3rd name she has used in the last 2-3 months. I met her in person. Wanted $5 originally and I laughed. "agreed on $4" but she became a royal PITA to deal with. Not responsive on a timely basis, didn't follow thru on agreed upon meet-ups, she's 28. May be mentally unstable or maybe never got over the $1 negotiation. Regardless, tread lightly and keep your expectations low.

[QUOTE=DavidF;6345397]I don't know what to make of all this but here are the facts:

3rd name she has used in the last 2-3 months. I met her in person. Wanted $5 originally and I laughed. "agreed on $4" but she became a royal PITA to deal with. Not responsive on a timely basis, didn't follow thru on agreed upon meet-ups, she's 28. May be mentally unstable or maybe never got over the $1 negotiation. Regardless, tread lightly and keep your expectations low.[/QUOTE]Do you have a link for us to avoid!

[QUOTE=NattyDread;6345479]Do you have a link for us to avoid![/QUOTE]I believe this is who he's referring to. I see red flags from start.

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Bs.