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Fuck me I got played. Some bullshit just happened. Here is the story.

So I see this thick girl on the ave with glasses near 7-11. I get her number. Set up a date for the next day. So I pick her up. She gets in my car.

She wants money up front. I'm like no ill give it to you when we get to the hotel. She's like ok. So I drive freaking like at least 20 minutes to get to a hotel. Like near the airport.

Girl says can I get money while in hotel room I'm like ok. I give her money. She says she wants to freshen up in bathroom. I'm like ok go for it. She goes to take shower (pretends to take shower).

Then 15 minutes later. She comes out says bye and runs for door and goes out and I guess someone picked her up and bounced out. (she was texting person while in bathroom about location).

I literally was sitting on bed half naked watching reality show (which was pretty good by the way) on this king size bed and I'm like. WTF just happened. I literally burst out laughing. I gave her 80 bucks for nothing but wow. Some pimp or her friend or god know who drove at least 20 minutes just to get to the hotel and get her.

Anyways positive story I went to casino after and won back my money so. Happy ending did come true.

[QUOTE=Sacramento;3912735]Fuck me I got played. Some bullshit just happened. Here is the story.

So I see this thick girl on the ave with glasses near 7-11. I get her number. Set up a date for the next day. So I pick her up. She gets in my car.
She wants money up front. I'm like no ill give it to you when we get to the hotel. She's like ok. So I drive freaking like at least 20 minutes to get to a hotel. Like near the airport.
Girl says can I get money while in hotel room I'm like ok. I give her money. She says she wants to freshen up in bathroom. I'm like ok go for it. She goes to take shower (pretends to take shower).
Then 15 minutes later. She comes out says bye and runs for door and goes out and I guess someone picked her up and bounced out. (she was texting person while in bathroom about location). I literally was sitting on bed half naked watching reality show (which was pretty good by the way) on this king size bed and I'm like. WTF just happened. I literally burst out laughing. I gave her 80 bucks for nothing but wow. Some pimp or her friend or god know who drove at least 20 minutes just to get to the hotel and get her.

Anyways positive story I went to casino after and won back my money so. Happy ending did come true.[/QUOTE]Glad things worked out for you Sac. As you well know it doesn't always go that way. We all get banged around here and there. Just part of the territory. Here's a suggestion. If you find yourself in a similar situation. Give her half or 25%. Tell her the balance upon completion of the task. That's something the entire board needs to do. Those guys that think they have something special going on with a girl are another bunch getting played. They close their eyes until they get slammed. Some are to proud to expose the experience here. I'm curious as to why? If they somehow think in the back of their mind they are among the. 05% this wouldn't happen to, They are crazy. Quite simple. CRAZY.

There's another girl hanging round that same area. Says her name is Lola. Right. Not the heavy set Lola. This one is slim and trim. Has a temper too. About 5'1". Very attractive. Says she's Italian. Wears big sunglasses a lot. She will most definitely try funny stuff. She also hangs around Ontario to about Westmoreland. Claims she supports her disabled mom. Then I'm thinking to myself your mom is disabled. She tells me they need money for food as she's walking to the block to get high. Is it me or does anybody else see something wrong with this scenario? Best to avoid both these girls. Me, I'm just an 'OL Gator.

[QUOTE=Gator145;3913498]Glad things worked out for you Sac. As you well know it doesn't always go that way. We all get banged around here and there. Just part of the territory. Here's a suggestion. If you find yourself in a similar situation. Give her half or 25%. Tell her the balance upon completion of the task. That's something the entire board needs to do. Those guys that think they have something special going on with a girl are another bunch getting played. They close their eyes until they get slammed. Some are to proud to expose the experience here. I'm curious as to why? If they somehow think in the back of their mind they are among the. 05% this wouldn't happen to, They are crazy. Quite simple. CRAZY.

There's another girl hanging round that same area. Says her name is Lola. Right. Not the heavy set Lola. This one is slim and trim. Has a temper too. About 5'1". Very attractive. Says she's Italian. Wears big sunglasses a lot. She will most definitely try funny stuff. She also hangs around Ontario to about Westmoreland. Claims she supports her disabled mom. Then I'm thinking to myself your mom is disabled. She tells me they need money for food as she's walking to the block to get high. Is it me or does anybody else see something wrong with this scenario? Best to avoid both these girls. Me, I'm just an 'OL Gator.[/QUOTE]Good stuff gator. Yea I think I made a mistake letting my guard down by paying upfront since we were so far from the ave I didn't expect some jackass to drive over 20 minutes to get to my location and pick her up LOL Now that I think about it I think we need to add another rule to the 22 rules.

Rule 23: make her turn her phone off and no texting during whole date.

[QUOTE=Sacramento;3915708]Good stuff gator. Yea I think I made a mistake letting my guard down by paying upfront since we were so far from the ave I didn't expect some jackass to drive over 20 minutes to get to my location and pick her up LOL Now that I think about it I think we need to add another rule to the 22 rules.

Rule 23: make her turn her phone off and no texting during whole date.[/QUOTE]I get nervous when a girl continues to text on her phone, especially after we arrive at our intended location. She could be setting you up for a robbery or some other type of violent encounter. Just recently I began asking the girls to put away her phone while we are together. Adding Rule 23 sounds like a great idea!

[QUOTE=Msaunders6969;3915976]I get nervous when a girl continues to text on her phone, especially after we arrive at our intended location. She could be setting you up for a robbery or some other type of violent encounter. Just recently I began asking the girls to put away her phone while we are together. Adding Rule 23 sounds like a great idea![/QUOTE]Msaunders and Sacramento, I tell them when they get in the vehicle if they wish to do business they need to focus on me not the phone. That means turn off the phone and put it away until after the encounter. If they don't wish to comply then out the same door they entered. No BS, no whining, crying or other drama. My way or the highway.

Here's a gauge of safety. Use it. If a monger begins to feel uneasy / nervous you are beginning to lose control of the situation. Get it back or get out of it immediately. Play the no risk card always. If you are wrong you are still safe. Move on. If they go into the bathroom then the phone doesn't go there. I tell them it's for their safety as well as mine. Mine being paramount and trumping all others.

Another thing that is extremely important. I will never go to a location suggested by them. I don't care if I've used that location a dozen times. The one time I give in may be the last time. I set the rules not them. It is important for everyone to put their own safety first.

Once you allow them to control any meeting then you lose control. Lose control of a situation and the risk factor kicks in. When they are on the street they are at your mercy and they know that. When they enter your vehicle watch their every move and persona. Maintain control and they remain compliant. If you lose a date because of you diligence then the date isn't worth the risk factor.

Remember this if you remember nothing else. From the moment you make eye contact you need to begin evaluating the risk factor. Think about what is the worst scenario here. What can go wrong. Is there a loser close by? What other cars are close by? Any and all suspicious people or activity close? After the initial scoop get away from that location as quick as possible, constantly checking the mirror.

Know where the police station is a and go there if needed. Never be hesitant about contacting LEO if you feel threatened in any way.

Yesterday while chatting with Audrey, as she left, another worker approached my vehicle. She offered to give me some fun and action for $2. 00 . That beats the girl that offered me a BJ for a pack of Newports a few years ago. What could a $2. 00 date possibly have that I could want? That was a no good situation from the word go. Even if she was legit, the risk factor health and safety wise was not worth it. My defense and risk evaluation kicked in immediately. Even if I was completely wrong I was safe for another day. What is sad is there are people in this hobby that would have jumped at the " bargain". That would be the can opener to release the worms. After a meeting go over things that may have seemed out of place if there was anything. Always wonder if you was lucky and maybe avoided a bad encounter. Never ever trust any worker. They are out there for themselves. Not you. Safety and control is power. Always stay safe. Me, I'm just an 'OL Gator.

[QUOTE=Gator145;3916219]Msaunders and Sacramento, I tell them when they get in the vehicle if they wish to do business they need to focus on me not the phone. That means turn off the phone and put it away until after the encounter. If they don't wish to comply then out the same door they entered. No BS, no whining, crying or other drama. My way or the highway.

Here's a gauge of safety. Use it. If a monger begins to feel uneasy / nervous you are beginning to lose control of the situation. Get it back or get out of it immediately. Play the no risk card always. If you are wrong you are still safe. Move on. If they go into the bathroom then the phone doesn't go there. I tell them it's for their safety as well as mine. Mine being paramount and trumping all others.

Another thing that is extremely important. I will never go to a location suggested by them. I don't care if I've used that location a dozen times. The one time I give in may be the last time. I set the rules not them. It is important for everyone to put their own safety first.

Once you allow them to control any meeting then you lose control. Lose control of a situation and the risk factor kicks in. When they are on the street they are at your mercy and they know that. When they enter your vehicle watch their every move and persona. Maintain control and they remain compliant. If you lose a date because of you diligence then the date isn't worth the risk factor.

Remember this if you remember nothing else. From the moment you make eye contact you need to begin evaluating the risk factor. Think about what is the worst scenario here. What can go wrong. Is there a loser close by? What other cars are close by? Any and all suspicious people or activity close? After the initial scoop get away from that location as quick as possible, constantly checking the mirror.

Know where the police station is a and go there if needed. Never be hesitant about contacting LEO if you feel threatened in any way.

Yesterday while chatting with Audrey, as she left, another worker approached my vehicle. She offered to give me some fun and action for $2. 00 . That beats the girl that offered me a BJ for a pack of Newports a few years ago. What could a $2. 00 date possibly have that I could want? That was a no good situation from the word go. Even if she was legit, the risk factor health and safety wise was not worth it. My defense and risk evaluation kicked in immediately. Even if I was completely wrong I was safe for another day. What is sad is there are people in this hobby that would have jumped at the " bargain". That would be the can opener to release the worms. After a meeting go over things that may have seemed out of place if there was anything. Always wonder if you was lucky and maybe avoided a bad encounter. Never ever trust any worker. They are out there for themselves. Not you. Safety and control is power. Always stay safe. Me, I'm just an 'OL Gator.[/QUOTE]Well said Gator! You are the expert voice with always the best advice.

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Watch out, apparently she's been setting up John's to rob.[/QUOTE]The link doesn't work for me I must of banned for posting truthful reviews on rip offs.

At least three members have informed me that Cloe, also using the name Jess / Jenn has taken up the practice of cash and dash.

Cloe is an attractive spinner red head. She likes to walk from Somerset sometimes as far as Tioga, Venango area. She's known for walking under the EL in the street even if it's not raining. I know who she is. She works with Cindy on the strip. She never used to be like that. Guess the crack is catching up to her faster than she thought it would.

These cash and dash people need to be stopped. Don't give them your money up front. Last guy said he gave her the money and she bounced right out of his car. Said he was all the way down at the Home Depot. So that seems pretty brazen that she's willing to walk all the way from there. Said she took Twenty. Chump change. So be on guard for this one and others like her.

Take them someplace way out of the way. Like down near the river to do their work. That way if they roll then they will have a nice walk back to the shopping district.

If you get to a place and they refuse to work before you hand them cash then tell them straight up you can't do that and you will take them back to where you got them and find someone else more cooperative. Pretty simple solution to a difficult issue. With Christmas coming the practice is going to increase. They will try to get away with everything they can.

Only that will stop the bull shit. Me, I'm just an 'OL Gator.

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Well, it finally happened to me. In hindsight, the signs were all there for me to avoid it but I had my guard down. Got too comfortable with my own skills, wasnt sharp that night. I submit this report feeling pretty dumb that it happened to me but to share with the group hopefully it helps someone else. Was cruising along Jasper down between Castor and Buckius. Was out of my car having a cig near DSG when a SW approached and started to chat. I think she said her name was Debbie? 39 and had no teeth (fake teeth that she pulled out to show me and offer me a gummy. WTF). Anyway, she asked for a ride and I was going that way so agreed. As we crossed Castor, there was a 2008 (ish) Dark Gray Honda Accord with dark tinted window pulled to the side of the road and waved me to pass. I noticed they pulled out right behind me but gave it no thought (sign #1 and mistake #1 on my part). I should have tracked if that the person was tailing me but didn't (they were. Mistake #2). Ended up driving a bit and parking at a friends house I know along Richmond St. Was parked for all of 60 seconds when there were 2 bright flashlights in my eyes yelling to get out of the car. Ill spare you all the details but they identified themselves at PPD and were very threatening, flashed handcuffs (but never put them on me), wore PPD looking tactical clothes, one rummaged through my entire car while I was outside with the other. After watching the one in the car take the cash out of my wallet, I knew they weren't cops. Thats when I demanded for their names and badge numbers. They mumbled some bullshit fake number and name but did not produce an I'd / badge and got more agressive, shoving me, etc. So I backed down not knowing if they were armed (my life is worth more than the 50 bucks they stole). Then, once they were sure they had all the cash, they said I was getting a break and they left. They took only cash, left my cell phone, wallet, credit cards and everything else of value. As they were leaving, they backed out of the street I was on and sped off (so I couldn't get a plate). 2 weeks ago, I saw Jordan down on the other end of kensington near lehigh. She had been beaten up pretty good by some "guy who was a marine" - said she was parked on a date and then told me the same story of these 2 guys rolling up and robbing her date. Same story as mine. Unfortunately for her, the marine thought she set him up and issued some instant justice to her (warranted or no? Who knows). So again, it is entirely probable that this "Debbie" was totally in on it, and set the whole thing up with the 2 thugs. It is also entirely possible that she knew nothing about it and these 2 thugs just roll around Kensington looking for girls getting picked up and follow the car. In either case, it is a very dangerous situation. Now for the BAD news to the thugs. I have a dash cam running at the time. Although their act was well planned, thought out and executed, they failed to realize that both of their pretty faces were being recorded by my dash cam as they rummaged through my car. PPD now has the footage and report. I'm hoping the detectives take it seriously and catch these predators. Robbery and impersonating police officers carries a very hefty penalty.

So what are the lessons learned? Never think your skills will keep you safe. This is not a safe area, always a risk, always a danger. Never forget to follow the 23 golden rules of mongering. Situational awareness. Always know who is around you. If you are being watched, if you are being followed. Always scope out a SW. Does she have a shadow, is a handler watching. Never park at a location that a SW directs you to.

I got off lucky, I could easily have been killed right there on the spot. 20 years of hard earned street awareness and this was the first issue. It can happen to anyone, any time. Be careful out there!!

[QUOTE=Mackeral1;4149187]Well, it finally happened to me. In hindsight, the signs were all there for me to avoid it but I had my guard down. Got too comfortable with my own skills, wasnt sharp that night. I submit this report feeling pretty dumb that it happened to me but to share with the group hopefully it helps someone else...

...It can happen to anyone, any time. Be careful out there!![/QUOTE]

Thanks man, thanks a lot. I for one really appreciate your posting this information.

I suffer from the same problem. I've been doing this too long. Sometimes I am just going through the motions, not really paying attention.
You are so right, it could happen to anyone of us. It could have been worse so glad it wasnt.

Be careful,
CookyJar

This is not the first report I've heard of people getting robbed by police impersonators. The scam works well, for one reason: They target people that might have a legitimate reason to be worried. They look for someone who has just bought drugs, or picked up a girl, or has a car with out of date tags and stickers. The target is relieved that they aren't getting a ticket, or maybe even relieved that it's not a real cop, and they just accept the robbery.

Glad it was just your $50.