News and Media Reports

I have to admit that while I have only dabbled in the hobby, I am so paranoid that I am going to be recorded or something. I am in my early 30's so who knows what success I may have in the next few years. Just think as a working girl, why not record guys. You never know who might be visiting you. The girls that were messing with Tiger saved some text messages, and gained money for selling their stories. Imagine if they had video? Of course I don't have his money or fame, or even a wife, but who knows what tomorrow brings.

Tenured mongers: is there any advice or practices that can be done to make sure an Incall is safe and video camera free?

[QUOTE=Daddy Oh;1559705]I'm so glad I didn't go through with seeing Stephanie there. I'm not quite ready to be immortalized on film.[/QUOTE]I looked at the story, thanks for the update. It mentions that there were records from 2012; who was working as a GFE girl at that time?

At that time I think only Kim and Tia were working there. Kayla was at end of 2011 I think and would still be available by special request for favorite regulars. Other girls had gone their own way by then.

[QUOTE=Vankleek;1559775]I looked at the story, thanks for the update. It mentions that there were records from 2012; who was working as a GFE girl at that time?[/QUOTE]

I think a lot of this us being overblown. I don't know but this is what I think. Some by LEO for intimidation some by cooperating witness provider (Stephanie) pumping herself up. I know several of these girls offline and while some of them do / did indeed make lots of money I see / saw nothing in their lifestyles that suggest they were banking $500k. Even assuming they were blowing it, that's a lot of fucking pills. As for the filming, these same girls have told me there were cameras for security the sessions were not filmed. I believe them. Besides with all the guys on here with superior detective skills I'm sure someone would have found them online and posted links by now. IMHO just intimidation tactics.

[QUOTE=Daddy Oh; 1559705]I just saw on WFTV Channel 9 news where they said indeed sex acts were filmed and some were streamed on the internet. Also, a girl in the report said she made $500, 000 in a year, but she was only given prepaid cards from Mr. Risner. A doctor and a dentist also mentioned in the report.

I'm so glad I didn't go through with seeing Stephanie there. I'm not quite ready to be immortalized on film.[/QUOTE]

I agree with you 100% the media is just picking on mid to high profile people in Orlando. No one cares about most of us. We are insignificant. Most of us are not lawyers or doctors with large practices in town. So far everything is hearsay in my opinion. They have 100's of names in the file that is a lot of people to persue for a second degree misd. Most will not get anytime because like persha said they don't have undeniable proof to put you up on trial.

[QUOTE=Hotrodvfr;1560275]I think a lot of this us being overblown. I don't know but this is what I think. Some by LEO for intimidation some by cooperating witness provider (Stephanie) pumping herself up. I know several of these girls offline and while some of them do / did indeed make lots of money I see / saw nothing in their lifestyles that suggest they were banking $500k. Even assuming they were blowing it, that's a lot of fucking pills. As for the filming, these same girls have told me there were cameras for security the sessions were not filmed. I believe them. Besides with all the guys on here with superior detective skills I'm sure someone would have found them online and posted links by now. IMHO just intimidation tactics.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Hotrodvfr;1560275]I think a lot of this us being overblown. I don't know but this is what I think. Some by LEO for intimidation some by cooperating witness provider (Stephanie) pumping herself up. I know several of these girls offline and while some of them do / did indeed make lots of money I see / saw nothing in their lifestyles that suggest they were banking $500k. Even assuming they were blowing it, that's a lot of fucking pills. As for the filming, these same girls have told me there were cameras for security the sessions were not filmed. I believe them. Besides with all the guys on here with superior detective skills I'm sure someone would have found them online and posted links by now. IMHO just intimidation tactics.[/QUOTE]And I think that LEO and the prosecutors haven't had a case that could give them so much media with such titivated details that really amounts to nothing as far as society goes, the women were all adults, no one was murdered.

The defendant has hired Francis (Buck) Blankner as his Attorney. Blankner knows every trick in the book so this will be a long and drawn out affair if the past is a predictor of the future. In a few months Jeff Ashton will be in charge as state's attorney so much will depend on his take of the situation.

Over 50 pages of info has been released but since I have only curiosity and no personal exposure to this group I won't pay the county clerks office for the copies of "the evidence" and remember it's a long way from accusation to conviction.

This guy is a Navy Vet with no prior arrests or convictions this is a huge plus for him in the case, more of a plus than many people realize. I'm going to put up the charges on the board but not his name or address, because even though his name is already on here, to do so is to expose your membership to automatic deletion. It does not matter that it is Public Record.

According to the press his take was 25% of the gross much less than I'm sure "Macknificent" took but he was a "real" Pimp working on SR 50, but of course despite his Mercedes pimpmobile our LEO's couldn't touch him, even though his car and house were pictured on this board.

It's a shame we as men allow the Government and the Churches to determine what we can or cannot do in a business transaction with an adult female. I don't but I'm forced to be extremely careful. I'm sure many of you do the same. (I hope)

I haven't posted the Defendants name because to do so subjects you to immediate dismissal from the board even though someone just might have posted his name on here already. (Hear me) I deliberately posted this twice.

The charges:

1. R. I. C. O. 895. 03 (3) First Degree. Felony 05/01/2010.

2. DERIVING SUPPORT- PROCEEDS OF PROSTITUTION 796. 05 (1) Third Degree. Felony 05/01/2010.

3. DERIVING SUPPORT- PROCEEDS OF PROSTITUTION 796. 05 (1) Third Degree. Felony 05/01/2010.

4. DERIVING SUPPORT- PROCEEDS OF PROSTITUTION 796. 05 (1) Third Degree. Felony 05/01/2010.

5. DERIVING SUPPORT- PROCEEDS OF PROSTITUTION 796. 05 (1) Third Degree. Felony 05/01/2010.

6. SOLICITATION TO COMMIT PROSTITUTION 796. 07 (2) F) Second Degree. Misd 05/01/2010.

7. SOLICITATION TO COMMIT PROSTITUTION 796. 07 (2) F) Second Degree. Misd 05/01/2010.

8. SOLICITATION TO COMMIT PROSTITUTION 796. 07 (2) F) Second Degree. Misd 05/01/2010.

9. SOLICITATION TO COMMIT PROSTITUTION 796. 07 (2) F) Second Degree. Misd 05/01/2010.

10. AIDING AND ABETTING FOR PROSTITUTION 796. 07 (2) H) Second Degree. Misd 05/01/2010.

11. SECURING ANOTHER FOR PROSTITUTION 796. 07 (2) B) Second Degree. Misd 05/01/2010.

12. MAINTAIN / STRUCT. FOR PURPOSE PROSTITUTION 796. 07 (2) A) Second Degree. Misd 05/01/2010.

13. PERMIT. PERSON TO REMAIN FOR PROSTITUTION 796. 07 (2) C) Second Degree. Misd 05/01/2010.

Note the date of the charges May 1, 2010, is this a typo? Or have they been "investigating" for 2 years.

As I was writing this, channel nine showed the sign in front of an Oviedo Dentist that "allegedly" had girls come to his office, it hasn't been proven but do you think his wife or patients will consider that. NO. To most people an accusation is as good as a conviction.

I doubt it but maybe if enough Politicians get caught breaking this BS law they'll at least review it. I won't hold my breath.

A girl making $500, 000 yr. Total BS, do the math, these were $200 girls, over $40, 000 a month, every month. Hell NO. VS

The most important thing to take away from this is to never ever give a girl your real name, occupation or employer. They aren't giving you their real name! Also, don't use girls that require screening forms and if you do, for goodness sakes don't give your real place of employment and your work number! That's just stupid! Plenty of girls to see that don't require any of that. As far as the state congressman, I can't believe he was so stupid. Like, what did he do? Did he just walk in and say,"Hi, I'm a state congressman and my name is." If there was ever someone who needed to be booted from office it was this guy for being such an idiot!

[QUOTE=Ricky James1;1560705]The most important thing to take away from this is to never ever give a girl your real name, occupation or employer. They aren't giving you their real name! Also, don't use girls that require screening forms and if you do, for goodness sakes don't give your real place of employment and your work number! That's just stupid! Plenty of girls to see that don't require any of that. As far as the state congressman, I can't believe he was so stupid. Like, what did he do? Did he just walk in and say,"Hi, I'm a state congressman and my name is." If there was ever someone who needed to be booted from office it was this guy for being such an idiot![/QUOTE]This insanity reminds me of Sugarbabyluv. I called her up trying to set up a 90 minute man-ssage. She demanded I send her a copy of my I'd or business card where I work with my name on it that she could call at that exact time to verify who I am. I told her I would not do that but would be more then happy to give her my screen name from this site and several references of other providers from this site and others that would vouch for me. She took an attitude and angrily told me no "No picture I'd, no visit". I texted her there are plenty of other providers without her attitude or insane I'd requirement and wished her the best and moved on. Called Joan right up and saw her within an hour, had a great time again with her, no rush, no headaches no problems.

There is NO reason to give any provider your name, occupation, employer, any idea where you might live or even a description of your car.

I personally thinks its insane not to have a monger phone. Never use your own phone. $30 a month gets you 1500 minutes. 1500 texts and 1500 picture messages with Virgin mobile and for $20 you can get a decent camera flip phone.

I guess I did not get out of this hobby in time. I saw Michelle back in 2009 when she was around and Stephanie 1 time when she was there, bet they have my information on this list. Should have known better to have seen them. I wonder if there is a way for the public to view the list?

[QUOTE=Ricky James1;1560705]The most important thing to take away from this is to never ever give a girl your real name, occupation or employer. They aren't giving you their real name! Also, don't use girls that require screening forms and if you do, for goodness sakes don't give your real place of employment and your work number! That's just stupid! Plenty of girls to see that don't require any of that. As far as the state congressman, I can't believe he was so stupid. Like, what did he do? Did he just walk in and say,"Hi, I'm a state congressman and my name is." If there was ever someone who needed to be booted from office it was this guy for being such an idiot![/QUOTE]Absolutely correct! I know that I harp on this issue a lot, but please. Do not give any personal information to anyone. I doubt if those on this list will even be called by LEO. But, why take the chance? First name is all that any provider needs to know. Anyone who gives more than that like full name, occupation, work number, etc is pretty much a fool. If a first name is not good enough, move on.

I got to say I saw this shit coming from five miles away!

It's been one year and a month now since I gave my take on providing Vital Info to providers in this hobby.

My report damn near hit this bust right on the head and sounds almost like it unfolded just as I predicted it would a year ago to date.

Out of all the many many years in this hobby, I seam to be lucky enough to bypass trouble and at times smell it coming from miles away.

Hope none of the guys on this forum got caught up in all the info LE has on the clients list that pimp was keeping.

I'm sure allot of mongers out there are sitting scratching thier heads glued to the T. V waiting on the latest reports on this scandal.

One things for sure, not only did this pimp keep detailed records of clients, but you can bet your ass he also got popped with all the recorded video surveillance of the sex acts taken place in his brothel as well.

The news media may or may not want to leak this but bet your ass LE has the video recordings!

No worries though because as we all can see only the powerful John's seem to be getting kicked in the balls in this scandal.

I stick to my gunns when I say never give your Vital Info to any Provider out there period!

Again, if you did not catch my report back on 9-8-11 in report #1144 here it is again I cut and pasted it below!

9-8-2011 report #1144 below if you missed it!

Although their may be a few great providers out there that will do their best to protect your vital info when you give it out to them. I must stress this again to all mongers, do not be a damn fool to give a provider your vital information for any reason. If a gal is requesting to much info no matter how popular she may be, just hang up the phone and move to the next one period. Because there are hundreds of gals out there willing make your money and show you a good time without digging to deep into your vital info. Go back and check my post reports! I have seen and been with hundreds of gals! Hottie, spinners, gorgeous gals tall and short even gals that have asked me not to review them here or have their photos uploaded on the forum. Again, hundreds of gals and never given out any vital info! Unless she's Cindy Crawford the supermodel or Jennifer Lopez, I won't be giving out any vital info period just to many fish in the sea! Reason why, if a gal gets popped by LEO and has any of your vital info stored in her laptop, iPhone, or ect ect that property along with your vital info stored in it becomes property of the arresting Leo department that popped her. She may be a wonderful highly reviewed and respected gal by many, but if she gets popped by Leo with your vital info stored in her laptop, iPhone or where ever she may have it placed there's nothing she can do to protect you or stop them from searching through her john's list. Are you on your ATF john's list? Does she have any of your vital info? I hear crickets and head scratching! If you're and average Joe you may have no worries! But if you hold any type of status out there in the real world like a Congressman, Attorney, Pro Athlete, well know business man, or ect ect. Then you may end up having a wonderful dream with the gal but if the crap hits the fan and the gal get into trouble with Leo, it may just be your reputation, good name and life that ends up really getting fucked if she get busted with your vital info in her possession. Now on behalf of the providers, we as mongers must honor and respect their need to screen! It's a well known fact that not all mongers are gentlemen or good mongers for that matter! There are many creeps out there looking to do a provider no good or worst harm her. Therefore a provider has the right to and must take the appropriate steps to try and weed out the creeps in any way she See's fit. That being said, monger or provider everyone must use caution when indulging in this hobby! Better to be safe then sorry and that go's for both parties! Happy hunting and be safe all!

OP

Even if you are on video in such a place and the LEO has your name and phone number, there is no proof that you paid any money. This jerk pimp had it written in a

Book how much each paid. I do not know if that is proof enough. Even so, you can deny any payments. There is no proof of payment unless you yourself admit paying or they get the payment on video. Other then that, you can say that you and her are just great friends and no monely was exchanged. Just a thought.

It's easy to say that these people who were caught with their names on the list were dumb. But the truth is that a lot of hobbiest have a provider fetish and their addicts. You can't assume that an irrational man will act rationally.

[QUOTE=NavyVet1006;1561072]I guess I did not get out of this hobby in time. I saw Michelle back in 2009 when she was around and Stephanie 1 time when she was there, bet they have my information on this list. Should have known better to have seen them. I wonder if there is a way for the public to view the list?[/QUOTE]The answer is YES, I've given the information on how, to a few concerned guys. Once it is released by the Govt. It becomes Public information.

The GOOD NEWS is that unless someone buys it and creates a website (highly unlikely) it will not become easily accessible.

You have to purchase it in person and pay so much per page for all 50 odd pages. And I believe Orange asks for identification and records the names of the purchasers.

Seminole as far as I know does not keep records, they may ask what your interest in the record is and you say I'm a friend of the family. Some records are on the net for instance the case records, charges, court dates,results of court appearences and various other dry records of no interest but to the bondsman and lawyers etc.

The arrest records are available but only the public version, the LE version is kept private but the public version pretty much details everything concerning the arrest, sometimes more than the (arrestee-accused) would like the public to know.

I agree with others on here that they are all about embarrassing the high profile and scaring every one else. I can tell you that there are many scared guys.

Fortunately I'm not one of them, I'll tell you guys a little trick, if you see several girls working out of the same house or using the same background pics or telephone numbers, chances are there is someone in the background especially if they have been around for a serious length of time. Reason: Rarely can a group of girls work together in this business (without a referee) together for a serious length of time because of petty jealousy, one making more money than the other, BF issues, drug issues etc.

The one general exception is if they are a Lesbian couple who have their heads on straight and jealousy is a non-issue. There is at least one of those teams working locally, I won't name them publicly, no reason too they both perform very well in a Heterosexual encounter, really well in a three way, emmm.

I'm not disclosing this couple( I'm just adding this because I recd. a PM) because there is no reason they are great providers and very safe, understand this there is a difference in a girl who swings both ways as a provider or otherwise and a committed Lesbian couple.--VS

[QUOTE=VerySlowly; 1561523]The answer is YES, I've given the information on how, to a few concerned guys. Once it is released by the Govt. It becomes Public information.

The GOOD NEWS is that unless someone buys it and creates a website (highly unlikely) it will not become easily accessible.

You have to purchase it in person and pay so much per page for all 50 odd pages. And I believe Orange asks for identification and records the names of the purchasers.

Seminole as far as I know does not keep records, they may ask what your interest in the record is and you say I'm a friend of the family. Some records are on the net for instance the case records, charges, court dates and various other dry records of no interest but to the bondsman and lawyers etc.

The arrest records are available but only the public version, the LE version is kept private but the public version pretty much details everything concerning the arrest, sometimes more than the (arrestee-accused) would like the public to know.

I agree with others on here that they are all about embarrassing the high profile and scaring every one else. I can tell you that there are many scared guys.

Fortunately I'm not one of them, I'll tell you guys a little trick, if you see several girls working out of the same house or using the same background pics or telephone numbers, chances are there is someone in the background especially if they have been around for a serious length of time. Reason: Rarely can a group of girls work together in this business (without a referee) together for a serious length of time because of petty jealousy, one making more money than the other, BF issues, drug issues etc.

The one general exception is if they are a Lesbian couple who have their heads on straight and jealousy is a non-issue. There is at least one of those teams working locally, I won't name them publicly, no reason too they both perform very well in a Heterosexual encounter, really well in a three way, emmm-VS[/QUOTE]Much appreciated VS, always helpful. I did look up the case on the Orange county clerk of courts and like you said in your post only the arrest concerning the arrested and counts are published. I am pretty sure I gave a bogus first name the only thing that those records would have is that and of course my cell number and email that has since been deleted by yahoo.

Really appreciate the info though and the time my friend!