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[QUOTE=lalake;1985329]Hi Guys,
Been a long member here (well the International edition), and its been great help. Now that I'm back in the States, and am meeting a girl on CL for first time, is there a tip, or suggestion on how I can confirm before I go that this isn't a LE operation? I worry about that here in the US. She asked me, and I said I wasn't LE, and my arrangement was to meet at a hotel that I book (feeling safer for me). But is there a mutual way that both of can know (ie, exchange nude photos?
Cheers.[/QUOTE]Your best bet is to seek out someone who has reviews online. If it's a non-pro then I would play it a little more safe, maybe meet at a public place, chat a little if possible or even bite the bullet and agree on a massage only and you may or may not get lucky. I'm not sure but I doubt any LE officer will give you a massage so if that goes down well it's pretty safe to ask for more. If you're calling, never discuss anything specific. Tell her that you want to "see her" tonight or now.
Bottom line is, there's always risk in this game so just think with your big head. You could also read through all the encounters people here have had and choose from those.
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Erotic Massage
Well being in the Valley area, choices are often limited. Been seeing a lot of posts by this provider for "body rubs" so decided to give it a try. Was quoted $ for a massage and $.6 for full. Was greeted by an older Russian / Latina lady with a pretty decent bod. Decent location with music, very friendly and really seemed to enjoyed her "work", started with a rub but didn't last too long so went to action quickly. Good BBBJ and GFE type thing. Like I said, she enjoyed the time which makes me enjoy mine. Would repeat and recommend.
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Vivian
It was Thursday and I had already scheduled a bang for the night when I came across a post on CL offering BBBJWS and asking for kisses (nothing specific) and a pic. Usually these posts are spam but I said fuck it, I'll give it a shot. Sent email and got back a clear photo and a number. Again, I was already booked for the night so I took down the # and contacted her this morning. Told me her friend had crashed the night and she needed some time to clean up and shower / get ready. I met her a couple hours ago and when I saw her I was really taken back. For the first time, she looked younger and more sexy IRL than the photo she sent me. I thought she'd be in her early 30's but turned out to be 24 (and looked it too in person).
I first see her and WOW. Tall, beautiful face, sexy with a black dress, a little chubby in the right places... Mmmm my imagination starts running wild.
Again, no mention of donation or details until I was in her room and after she made her spank her and feel her up (nympho style). I then ask about donation and she said $ for the hour or .8 for half (she didn't even ask for it). I was kind of taken back again because I was really expecting her to quote me more, from experience. Some more spanking and feeling then she starts with a BBBJ, wow... She was really fucking into it and talking dirty through the whole time.
I then suited up (I could probably have gone raw if I wanted to) and went at it. She was so fucking tight, told me to go in SLOW, took me about a minute before I could go all the way. Started pumping and she was really fucking vocal, loved it! She came once in mish. Then told me she wanted to "fuck me" so we went some cowgirl and had her natural tits all over my face, wow. She came a 2nd time.
Next went at it rough doggy with hair pulling and the whole nine yards. Asks me if I want to finish inside her or swallow. Well thank for you asking babe, swallow please! Finished the first time (yes, this was only the first) with a BBBJWS. Continued to suck me and Jr. Was still awake. Continued to work her lovely mouth till I couldn't take it any more. She wanted me to bust on her tits the 2nd time so well, that's exactly what I did! I was playing with her sweet pussy and had made her cum again while she was working me. She continued to suck me after my 2nd bust and kept telling me how much she loves it. I've never been to heaven but I think I just got a sneak peek tonight!
We then laid there and conversed for a while, gave donation and parted ways. Real sweet girl, kind of innocent (in a weird way, hard to explain). She loved every second of it. Never looked at the clock (I think I was there for 1:15 or more).
Definitely looking forward again. Think her name was Vivian.
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Vivian
I've been getting a lot of PM's about viv and as much as I'm willing to share, I have to respect her privacy since she's UTR and screened before providing contact info. I've found no details under her # in google.
I'll be glad to give you info on the Russian / Latina provider since she's public.
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Peeping Tom
Since this thread is pretty dead, I'd like to add a small detail to the experience I had with Viv and I'd like your take on what you would have done in that situation or how you'd reacted.
While I was bangin her doggie, I caught someone moving through a small bathroom window. I noticed some dude probably mid 20's slowly creep his head to catch a glimpse of the action. Shit like that doesn't bother me and I didn't want to fuck up the rhythm so I just glanced at him which he saw then went back to pounding.
After we finished, I thought about it and thought maybe this is some husband / wife cuckold fantasy stuff and she purposely left the window open... (I don't know, it still might have been) but after we were finished, she mentions the landlords son is in a related field as mine and I casually say "oh, the guy who was spying on us?" she pauses for a long time and says that just gave her the creeps and that her heart just skipped a beat. Tells me she sees him as a "brother"... I tell her, well he still has a dick so. Told her to not be too hard on him if you confront him.
Still don't know if this was a setup or not but fuck if I care. Let some dude get a show at the same time, why not. Is the way I see it.
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[QUOTE=Seephor;2000932]Since this thread is pretty dead, I'd like to add a small detail to the experience I had with Viv and I'd like your take on what you would have done in that situation or how you'd reacted.
While I was bangin her doggie, I caught someone moving through a small bathroom window. I noticed some dude probably mid 20's slowly creep his head to catch a glimpse of the action. Shit like that doesn't bother me and I didn't want to fuck up the rhythm so I just glanced at him which he saw then went back to pounding.
After we finished, I thought about it and thought maybe this is some husband / wife cuckold fantasy stuff and she purposely left the window open... (I don't know, it still might have been) but after we were finished, she mentions the landlords son is in a related field as mine and I casually say "oh, the guy who was spying on us?" she pauses for a long time and says that just gave her the creeps and that her heart just skipped a beat. Tells me she sees him as a "brother"... I tell her, well he still has a dick so. Told her to not be too hard on him if you confront him.
Still don't know if this was a setup or not but fuck if I care. Let some dude get a show at the same time, why not. Is the way I see it.[/QUOTE]Did she question how he looked and what not? It's funny you and her knew it was the landlord's son right off the bat.
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[QUOTE=BigGordie;2001796]Did she question how he looked and what not? It's funny you and her knew it was the landlord's son right off the bat.[/QUOTE]No she didn't but I'm assuming she knew who was home at the time? I still don't know, she appeared shocked at first but that faded quickly, I don't know. Maybe she has a deal with the dude where he'll allow her to work there but he gets to watch? I'll be more observant next time. It was kind of a strange feeling knowing there's eyes on you while banging, first time thing for me actually.
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Escort Upsell
[QUOTE=Seephor;1979730]Hey guys I have a question that I need cleared up. When the ladies advertise say 100 hh, 200 fh, does that mean the 100 hh is only a BJ and not FS?
I had a recent experience with an escort and I think I might have been ripped off. I was under the impression that the 100,200 had only to do with time and not service provided so I agreed to the half hour. After getting warmed up she breaks out a condom so I figure ok time to go to work only to hear "the 100 is only just a BJ" WTF? Is this how it works guys or did I just get fucked. And me like a fucking idiot dished another 100 so I could finish the fucking job. I wasn't expecting to spend 200 her and left pretty disappointed in the end.
I just want to get your take on what the hh / fh mean to you.[/QUOTE]I used to work with an escort service, and the price you are quoted on the phone is to get the girl to your door. All that money goes right to the service. It's amazing how little the girls get out of how much you pay. If the service says it's $150 and you give her $200, she makes $25 by the time she pays her driver and she's got to suck a stranger's dick.
For independent escorts, they are indeed slitting their own throat financially if they fuck with you. I have said this about every working girl. The desperation of trying to get as much money as they can out of you NOW ruins the big picture payoff of having a steady customer. Maybe the two different prices are a code that they think the customers understand. But, ultimately, anyone in business needs to remember Rule #1 is leave a customer happy because, as Chris Rock put it, "The money's in the comeback." He was talking about crack dealers, but if a shithead crack dealer can understand that, then everybody else should be able to understand it.
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CL Code Words
I have just started trolling CL for girls, and since they don't have the Escort section any more, I was wondering where the girls are hiding (I found the Therapeutic Services section) and what the codes are that separate the massage girls from the girls who want to earn some BJ money.
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[QUOTE=SuckerBill;2002044]I have just started trolling CL for girls, and since they don't have the Escort section any more, I was wondering where the girls are hiding (I found the Therapeutic Services section) and what the codes are that separate the massage girls from the girls who want to earn some BJ money.[/QUOTE]You can't count on codes, but if the provider references her hands, it's unlikely you're going to get the lips. Your best resource is reviews. And be sure to share what you discover!
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Craigslist Cache
Since all the important posts (to us at least) on CL get flagged, I was looking for a cache service online but came up with nothing. Being a web developer, I thought, hey... Why not build my own cache service!
I just want to give you mongers a heads up on this project of mine. I've completed about 50% and the testing has been successful. It will be a background service that runs every couple minutes and pulls all the post info (body + images) and stores them in a database before anyone can flag them. One can then browse or search through the cached posts. I'm thinking to even have it where you can browse my photos that will then lead to the post (s). There will be a status field so one can easily just look through the valuable flagged or deleted posts for relevant info.
I'm planning to cache the losangeles edition Casual Encounters (w4 m) only for the time being.
I'm also planning to share it with only board members, giving out personal accounts to the service.
If interested, send me a PM and I'll give you access once I complete the project (in the next couple days).
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Robbery
Don't fall for this one at a house in West Covina. It was the boyfriend-burst-in-trick, "get out of my house". A little guy covered in tattoos and armed with a fireplace poker. I was very tempted to twist his poker into a pretzel and shove it up his ass, but my wife would have been very upset about it. The Craigslist ad was flagged and deleted. Said something like, "Give me what I want, and I'll give you what you want." Got me for $100.
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[QUOTE=Wasillian;2014411]Don't fall for this one at a house in West Covina. It was the boyfriend-burst-in-trick, "get out of my house". A little guy covered in tattoos and armed with a fireplace poker. I was very tempted to twist his poker into a pretzel and shove it up his ass, but my wife would have been very upset about it. The Craigslist ad was flagged and deleted. Said something like, "Give me what I want, and I'll give you what you want." Got me for $100.[/QUOTE]Wow. Armed with a fireplace poker? Sounds like a scene from a comedy movie. Thanks for the heads up. I have seen that ad many times as well. You're probably not the first or last victim. Reality is that they'll lure in the wrong guy at one point that it won't end well for them.
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[QUOTE=Seephor;2014909]?......Reality is that they'll lure in the wrong guy at one point that it won't end well for them.[/QUOTE]They already did. They just don't know it yet. I'll be thinking of ways to slow or put an end to their dangerous games. I can be very creative.
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Craigslist Cacher Update
Thanks for the support guys. I've got a lot of requests for access to the system and a couple questions.
1) Will I spam you or charge for the service? NO. I plan to accept voluntary donations through PayPal to continue support for the project once launched.
2) Will older past posts be cached? No point, I'll go back a couple days to start off with but have no limit as to how long the posts will remain cached. Depending on resources and whatnot.
3) Will the service be public? Not at the moment. Not sure of any legal issues that might come up but possibly in the future.
The system will have several unique features which will make it valuable. Briefly:
1) Most importantly, all posts will be cached even if they become flagged in the future or right away. Giving mongers an edge in contacting for services. There will be a status field which states the most updated status of a particular post so you can easily filter through all posts that have been flagged or deleted by the user etc.
2) Cache multiple versions of the same post. All post revisions (renews) will be cached and grouped so you'll have a history of how a particular post is being modified (including all photos). Even if a post gets flagged or deleted, the anonymous email remains active for a while which will also be cached so you can continue to contact the person.
3) Ability to subscribe to a particular post so if it's renewed / updated, you will be emailed with a link to the updated post (this feature will come later). Unfortunately there's no way to subscribe to an account since CL is anonymous in that sense.
3) A photo browser: Be able to browse through all photos that have been posted where by clicking a particular photo takes you to the post that photo was originally posted in AND lists any other posts (related or unrelated) that the particular photo has been used in. This can be useful in identifying photos spammers use for different posts as well as quickly finding posts you'd be interested in.
The project is coming along. Didn't have much time to work on it this week but will continue and give status updates. Happy hunting.