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[QUOTE=Craven Morehead]Lisa told me she's moving to Kenosha & that her phone will be working. Have any of you contacted her?
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I picked up a brunette with fake name "Lisa" the other day... said she wasn't a pro and had nice F/S and has working digits...is this the same Lisa or is it the blonde goofy Lisa that always talks like a psycho or ANOTHER lisa?
Cowchip - it's the blonde goofy Lisa who talks too much. That's the only Lisa I know. She's the one that told me of the cameras on Douglas & showed me one directly opposite NRS. It's tough to say if it was a camera & it could have been a light destroyed by a baseball bat.
On a related topic, did you know that all cell phones (& some cars) now have GPS chips in them so that LE can monitor exactly where it is at all times? So as you're driving round & around in the hood they can spot you - & they know who you are since you gave your SSN to the cell phone company. Of course, they tell you the reason for the chip is so that LE can help you find your phone if it gets stolen, or that if you call 911 & don't know where you are they can come running to help you. But we don't really believe that, do we? I'm now researching how to disable this Global Piece of Shit. If anyone has any intel please post it here.
Craven
[QUOTE=Craven Morehead]On a related topic, did you know that all cell phones (& some cars) now have GPS chips in them so that LE can monitor exactly where it is at all times? So as you're driving round & around in the hood they can spot you - & they know who you are since you gave your SSN to the cell phone company. Of course, they tell you the reason for the chip is so that LE can help you find your phone if it gets stolen, or that if you call 911 & don't know where you are they can come running to help you. But we don't really believe that, do we? I'm now researching how to disable this Global Piece of Shit. If anyone has any intel please post it here.
Craven[/QUOTE]
It is configurable on most phones to either be on all of the time or only when calling 911. In a Motorola phone it is in Settings/Location Setting.
[QUOTE=Craven Morehead]On a related topic, did you know that all cell phones (& some cars) now have GPS chips in them so that LE can monitor exactly where it is at all times? So as you're driving round & around in the hood they can spot you - & they know who you are since you gave your SSN to the cell phone company. Of course, they tell you the reason for the chip is so that LE can help you find your phone if it gets stolen, or that if you call 911 & don't know where you are they can come running to help you. But we don't really believe that, do we? I'm now researching how to disable this Global Piece of Shit. If anyone has any intel please post it here.
Craven[/QUOTE]
I've often wondered about all the "tracking" methods now available to LE and since the Patriot act it seems like all avenues of maintaining privacy are now becoming a thing of the past.
No, I don't want to start a political shit-storm on this either, so don't reply about how its the fucking republicans or the democrates fault, because the only correct answer is: its the fucking government period! Of which LE is a big part.
A few things that should make you go hmm:
Illinois iPass
GPS mapping
GPS enabled cell phones
Cell phones & the providing of phone call records to big brother
Intersection cameras (and not just the ones in big boxes with flashing lights)
email route tracing
IP address tracking
[QUOTE=Craven Morehead]I'm now researching how to disable this Global Piece of Shit. If anyone has any intel please post it here.[/QUOTE]
Simple, just turn off the phone.
[QUOTE=KingDd]Simple, just turn off the phone.[/QUOTE]True that. It ain't rocket science, lol.
Wasn't that the story about 6 months ago, some of our dopey spies got caught in Italy by tracking their cell phones...it wasn't that they had to be turned off, ...it was that the battery had to be out to be untrackable..... they got mocked for being retards.... (not that I would have known this, but I'm not a spy)
[QUOTE=Sir Phukzalot]
A few things that should make you go hmm:
Illinois iPass
GPS mapping
GPS enabled cell phones
Cell phones & the providing of phone call records to big brother
Intersection cameras (and not just the ones in big boxes with flashing lights)
email route tracing
IP address tracking[/QUOTE]
I have BMW Assist in my personal auto. When I push the button to speak to an operator, the operator responds in a few seconds and confirms my location. It takes the operator less than 30 seconds to perform this feat. I will have to check to see if they can track the vehicle's location when I am not actively using BMW Assist. This system is similar to On Star in the services provided so it may be safe to assume that On Star has the same capability.
SR
[QUOTE=Slag Runner]I have BMW Assist in my personal auto. When I push the button to speak to an operator, the operator responds in a few seconds and confirms my location. It takes the operator less than 30 seconds to perform this feat. I will have to check to see if they can track the vehicle's location when I am not actively using BMW Assist. This system is similar to On Star in the services provided so it may be safe to assume that On Star has the same capability.
SR[/QUOTE]
I made myself curious!!
This is a lengthy post but it provides the information supplied by On Star regarding their privacy policies and technical capabilities.
Frequently Asked Questions
Q: Does OnStar continuously monitor my car's location?
A: No, OnStar does not continuously or routinely monitor, update or otherwise track the location of OnStar-equipped cars. OnStar only knows the location of a car when a user initiates a request for service, there is an Air Bag Deployment, an Advanced Automatic Crash Notification occurs, your OnStar equipment calls OnStar with data updates or when required to locate a car by a valid court order in criminal procedures or under exigent circumstances. OnStar requires police involvement for Stolen Vehicle Location Assistance and missing person requests.
Q: If I am assigned as a primary driver of an OnStar-equipped car that is owned or leased by the company I work for, will you ever provide the location of that car to the company?
A: No, we do not provide the car's location to your company or to a fleet leasing company that may be managing your company's car fleet. OnStar only provides the location of a car to emergency service, roadside assistance or law enforcement personnel to assist in delivering services.
Q: If I drive a rental car equipped with OnStar, will you ever provide the location of my vehicle to the rental company?
A: OnStar will provide the location of a rental car to the rental company only if the location is vital to completing a driver's service request. For example, if you were involved in an accident where your rental car was no longer drivable and contacted OnStar, we would provide the rental car agency the location of the car so that they can send out the appropriate resources to pick up the damaged car and provide you with a new rental, if needed.
Q: If I'm not talking with an OnStar Advisor, or an Advisor and a third party conferenced in at my request, does OnStar monitor conversations in my car?
A: It is not possible for OnStar advisors to monitor car occupant conversations without notice to the occupants. When a voice connection is established with your car, a light flashes, there is a ring, and the radio mutes. Even if requested, it is not possible for OnStar to override this functionality. In addition, a voice connection is normally audible through the stereo speakers, and cars programmed with text display capabilities can see an indicator of a connection to OnStar on the driver's instrument panel. Moreover, OnStar's policy requires Advisors to announce their presence immediately upon establishing a voice connection.
Q: What do you mean when you say "independent use" of personal information?
A: By independent use, we mean for purposes unrelated to the offering of products and services by OnStar, your car manufacturer (including its wholly-owned subsidiaries) and dealer.
Q: Will you use my personal information to send me emails?
A: Yes, we may. If so, we will give you an opportunity to opt-out of receiving marketing emails in the future.
Q: Can I update my personal information?
A: Yes. Please contact an OnStar Advisor from your car, or call 1.888.4.ONSTAR (1.888.466.7827) or TTY 1.877.248.2080 to update your contact information maintained by OnStar.
Q: Does OnStar request or record highly sensitive personal information, like my social security number?
A: OnStar does not collect or record full social security number, government driver's license number, bank account information (other than information required to process purchases), bank passwords or your mother's maiden name from our past, current or potential future customers. If you receive mail, an email message or a telephone call from someone requesting the above information as part of an OnStar transaction, do not provide this information. Obtain as much information as possible from the person making the request and contact OnStar immediately at 1.888.4.ONSTAR (1.888.466.7627) or TTY 1.877.248.2080.
Q: What is an example of a supplier that provides services to OnStar?
A: Suppliers are companies such as advertising and marketing agencies, which provide services on OnStar's behalf.
Q: Is OnStar the same thing as an Event Data Recorder, sometimes called a "Black Box?"
A: No, OnStar is not the same as an Event Data Recorder. However, OnStar will use some of the same information that is collected by the Event Data Recorder in the event of an Air Bag Deployment or Advanced Automatic Crash Notification to help provide services to you.
SR
This article seems to back up what Craven was saying:
[url]http://www.spywareinfo.com/articles/cell_phones/[/url]
This article seems to contradict what Rub & Tugged was saying:
[url]http://www.alternet.org/rights/36151/[/url]
And if Rub & Tugged is right, here is a GPS blocking pouch, for lawful use only please:
[url]http://jkontherun.blogs.com/jkontherun/2005/03/geolocator_bloc.html[/url]
... while it is safe to assume that LE monitors this board (and more than a few date girls on or off duty) I can PROMISE you no one would ever go through the trouble of getting these records for misdemeanor crap like this thing....
[QUOTE=KingDd]This article seems to back up what Craven was saying:
[url]http://www.spywareinfo.com/articles/cell_phones/[/url]
This article seems to contradict what Rub & Tugged was saying:
[url]http://www.alternet.org/rights/36151/[/url]
And if Rub & Tugged is right, here is a GPS blocking pouch, for lawful use only please:
[url]http://jkontherun.blogs.com/jkontherun/2005/03/geolocator_bloc.html[/url][/QUOTE]
nothing new in Racine so went to North Chicago and got a bj while driving and ordering pizza using On Star from Jenn. We made our way to an out of town park and I fucked her in the ass in the restroom.... she's nice although a little hairy and we swap books on occasion.
Did crazy Lisa move to K town and did she recently have a kid? I wonder if it's mine? If I see her in Kenosha I'll do her for old times sake and then call the Po Po.... That goofball needs to stay in Racine..
Anyone date Rhonda lately? I yelled out to her and she didn't even look up...no cops around so maybe she had a religious conversion or something...
[QUOTE=Cowchip40]nothing new in Racine so went to North Chicago and got a bj while driving and ordering pizza using On Star [/QUOTE]
Cowchip you killing me here!
But you make a good point, the thought had also crossed my mind about what would be the max amount of effort for LE to go, in order to get a lousy misdeamor bust on a john? I doubt it'd be this much, who knows.
Ronduh- nailed it a few weeks back, nothing really new to report there.
[url]http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1547186/posts[/url]
Here is the story I was referencing about the CIA in Italy.
Another way guys with spouses get busted is that they delete the numbers out of their phone that they don't want their wife to see, but then the wife either gets the bill, or more sneakily, goes online and looks at the bill, she has enough information about you to see it...
very minimal besides occasional sting...they get enough stuff happening right in front of them to keep their Sarges happy and win a toaster here or there I imagine...
[QUOTE=Sir Phukzalot]Cowchip you killing me here!
But you make a good point, the thought had also crossed my mind about what would be the max amount of effort for LE to go, in order to get a lousy misdeamor bust on a john? I doubt it'd be this much, who knows.
Ronduh- nailed it a few weeks back, nothing really new to report there.[/QUOTE]