Anyone have any recommendations for a good prostate massage, either AMP or independent. I know there are a number out there (especially indy) that will offer it, but curious who's had a good experience with it and where.
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Anyone have any recommendations for a good prostate massage, either AMP or independent. I know there are a number out there (especially indy) that will offer it, but curious who's had a good experience with it and where.
[QUOTE=HardforRubs;7425549]Anyone have any recommendations for a good prostate massage, either AMP or independent. I know there are a number out there (especially indy) that will offer it, but curious who's had a good experience with it and where.[/QUOTE]Try Honey at Palace in McLean.
[QUOTE=CVilleCub;7405991]Went and saw Kiko at Diamond Flash due to all the reviews of her shoving her tits in peoples mouths LOL. Unfortunately I don't think she does that anymore (or at least I wasnt given the same level of service). Massage was fine w / standard L1. I guess she reads these forums because she asked me multiple times if I have read her reviews and if that's why I requested her. I laughed and said yes I have, have you? To which she replied "yes I read them, not all of them are true".
Anyway, her tits were pretty nice but a little too far of a drive for me to make without the allure of nursing, so I'll probably continue looking elsewhere.[/QUOTE]I saw Kiko last week and she allowed nursing as usual. She said my hands were cold so she didn't want them on her boobs, so sticking them in my mouth may have been her way of avoiding the cold hands LOL.
I've been seeing Jenny for years, since I first met her when she was working with KK. She's one of my faves and a regular in my rotation. I've read some of the comments and understandable frustrations and I hope this post will be helpful to some.
My first observation is that her business model has evolved over the years. When she was working with KK she was pretty much the same (as KK), cautious but more open to L1 on the first visit. And this was especially true if KK vouched for you. Since going fully independent she's become more cautious, perhaps because she feels she has more to lose. For anyone who has visited her current place, for example, it's obvious she's spent a ton of $ turning it into a spa that might rival some in a luxury hotel (esp the shower). At present, it's my assessment that she has plenty of established regulars and is not particularly looking for new clients. It's not that she'll turn anyone away, it's just that her business model is meeting her needs without having to hustle for more. That's one reason (IMO) you rarely see an advertisement from her anymore. No Bedpage and maybe once in a great while on Craigslist, although I can't recall the last time I saw an ad.
The thing about business models is that they're a good fit for some but may not be for others. K-Girl agencies, for example, have a business model in which they provide a superior level of attractiveness and service, but clients need to go through a higher level of screening. That model doesn't work for me, but they have every right to run their business as they see fit. Makes no sense for me to complain, I just wish them well and look elsewhere. Many AMPs have a business model that involves maximizing the number of clients per girl, per day. That often leads to rushed appts and a masseuse that interrupts the session to answer the phone or door. There's also some privacy concerns and a risk of LE and Health Dept visits. Again, not my cup of tea but it is what it is and it's up to me to find what meets my particular needs.
With respect to Jenny, she's not worth visiting for anyone who is just looking for a one-off visit. I'm a massage snob, and while she gives a great CMT massage it's still not worth the price (IMO) for legit only. But it's also worth noting that she hasn't raised her prices like others, so she's quite a good value for those who are willing to invest a little time and effort to see her regularly. By value I mean attractiveness, quality of massage, privacy, quiet, uninterrupted attention, cleanliness, and a great L1 finish. She also isn't a talker but is intelligent and will engage in as much conversation as the client wishes to initiate.
So the first thing any monger needs to decide is whether her business model is a good fit and whether they're interested in becoming a regular or something more than just a "one and done" client. And I totally understand that some mongers place a premium on variety. For them, it makes sense to seek out women who are a sure bet for services on the first visit. For Jenny, however, there's a certain level of rapport and comfort that needs to be reached. It's an individual thing and, while YMMV, it realistically should be achievable by the 2nd visit. She really only needs to feel safe with you with respect to the fact that you're not LE, not an a**hole, and not likely to be a problem client (I. E. , someone she'd be willing to see again).
If you think you might be a good fit, here are some suggestions:
- Consider booking a 90 minute session. That's something LE is unlikely to do and provides more time to reach the necessary comfort level.
- Consider getting a waxing session. While it may not be your thing (it isn't mine) it's also un-LE-like and has the added benefit (depending on the areas to be waxed) of requiring some handling of your man parts!
- Make her laugh! Nothing builds rapport and comfort faster, IME. For example, if she waxed my southern regions, I'd tell her it hurts a bit and ask if she could kiss it and make it feel better! She'd say no, of course, but if it gets a chuckle or smile out of her I'd follow up by asking "If not a kiss, then how about a little rub?" or something along those lines.
- Don't be afraid to ask (politely)! From the client side, you have zero risk ('cause she ain't LE) and there's absolutely no downside to asking for a HE. Hopefully the time you spent reaching a good comfort level will pay immediate dividends. If not, just say "Maybe next time" and ask when she'll be available again. Or even start doing a little DIY (I guarantee she won't object or say anything) and ask for some extra oil and for some help after a minute.
For all who think that it's too much work, I absolutely get it and would respectfully submit that her business model is not a good fit for you. Those initial hurdles, like screening with agency or the first (no extra) session with a Cuddle Comfort girl, are simply what it takes to be accepted as a regular. Once that's done, you're in and you'll never need to say another word. Make your appointment, lay on the table in a clean, beautiful, private place, and get an awesome massage and finish for about what you'd pay at an AMP.
Just my two-cents' worth, hope it's helpful to some.
P.S. Please don't PM me with comments like she "should" do this or "shouldn't" do that. Her business model is what it is. If it's not a good fit, fine. If it is, then see above.
[QUOTE=JmSuttr;7432468]I've been seeing Jenny for years, since I first met her when she was working with KK. She's one of my faves and a regular in my rotation. I've read some of the comments and understandable frustrations and I hope this post will be helpful to some.
My first observation is that her business model has evolved over the years. When she was working with KK she was pretty much the same (as KK), cautious but more open to L1 on the first visit. And this was especially true if KK vouched for you. Since going fully independent she's become more cautious, perhaps because she feels she has more to lose. For anyone who has visited her current place, for example, it's obvious she's spent a ton of $ turning it into a spa that might rival some in a luxury hotel (esp the shower). At present, it's my assessment that she has plenty of established regulars and is not particularly looking for new clients. It's not that she'll turn anyone away, it's just that her business model is meeting her needs without having to hustle for more. That's one reason (IMO) you rarely see an advertisement from her anymore. No Bedpage and maybe once in a great while on Craigslist, although I can't recall the last time I saw an ad.
The thing about business models is that they're a good fit for some but may not be for others. K-Girl agencies, for example, have a business model in which they provide a superior level of attractiveness and service, but clients need to go through a higher level of screening. That model doesn't work for me, but they have every right to run their business as they see fit. Makes no sense for me to complain, I just wish them well and look elsewhere. Many AMPs have a business model that involves maximizing the number of clients per girl, per day. That often leads to rushed appts and a masseuse that interrupts the session to answer the phone or door. There's also some privacy concerns and a risk of LE and Health Dept visits. Again, not my cup of tea but it is what it is and it's up to me to find what meets my particular needs.
With respect to Jenny, she's not worth visiting for anyone who is just looking for a one-off visit. I'm a massage snob, and while she gives a great CMT massage it's still not worth the price (IMO) for legit only. But it's also worth noting that she hasn't raised her prices like others, so she's quite a good value for those who are willing to invest a little time and effort to see her regularly. By value I mean attractiveness, quality of massage, privacy, quiet, uninterrupted attention, cleanliness, and a great L1 finish. She also isn't a talker but is intelligent and will engage in as much conversation as the client wishes to initiate.
So the first thing any monger needs to decide is whether her business model is a good fit and whether they're interested in becoming a regular or something more than just a "one and done" client. And I totally understand that some mongers place a premium on variety. For them, it makes sense to seek out women who are a sure bet for services on the first visit. For Jenny, however, there's a certain level of rapport and comfort that needs to be reached. It's an individual thing and, while YMMV, it realistically should be achievable by the 2nd visit. She really only needs to feel safe with you with respect to the fact that you're not LE, not an a**hole, and not likely to be a problem client (I. E. , someone she'd be willing to see again).
If you think you might be a good fit, here are some suggestions:
- Consider booking a 90 minute session. That's something LE is unlikely to do and provides more time to reach the necessary comfort level.
- Consider getting a waxing session. While it may not be your thing (it isn't mine) it's also un-LE-like and has the added benefit (depending on the areas to be waxed) of requiring some handling of your man parts!
- Make her laugh! Nothing builds rapport and comfort faster, IME. For example, if she waxed my southern regions, I'd tell her it hurts a bit and ask if she could kiss it and make it feel better! She'd say no, of course, but if it gets a chuckle or smile out of her I'd follow up by asking "If not a kiss, then how about a little rub?" or something along those lines.
- Don't be afraid to ask (politely)! From the client side, you have zero risk ('cause she ain't LE) and there's absolutely no downside to asking for a HE. Hopefully the time you spent reaching a good comfort level will pay immediate dividends. If not, just say "Maybe next time" and ask when she'll be available again. Or even start doing a little DIY (I guarantee she won't object or say anything) and ask for some extra oil and for some help after a minute.
For all who think that it's too much work, I absolutely get it and would respectfully submit that her business model is not a good fit for you. Those initial hurdles, like screening with agency or the first (no extra) session with a Cuddle Comfort girl, are simply what it takes to be accepted as a regular. Once that's done, you're in and you'll never need to say another word. Make your appointment, lay on the table in a clean, beautiful, private place, and get an awesome massage and finish for about what you'd pay at an AMP.
Just my two-cents' worth, hope it's helpful to some.
P.S. Please don't PM me with comments like she "should" do this or "shouldn't" do that. Her business model is what it is. If it's not a good fit, fine. If it is, then see above.[/QUOTE]Great informative post and it makes a lot of sense. 👍127998;.
With that being said, I'm currently 0 for 2 with Jenny as I went back to see her last week. It's all good as she gives a really great massage and she's super nice. Her spa is also top notch as far as quality. I'll just go see my other ladies when I'm looking for special treatment on the flip. Stay safe fellas.
But I think I will permanently skip her and would not recommend her to anyone else.
Copied from my post in the Massage thread:
Back has been all twisted out of shape recently. Based on various reviews, I decided to try out Mandy at May Wellness in Fairfax. Texted and got a response quickly. Showed up a little while later and was let in immediately. She's decent looking, but that's not why I was there. Opted for an hour at 70. She physically abused me for the next 45 minutes with her knees, elbows, forearms, and hands. I begged for more and mercy at the same time. She must have cracked my back 10-12 times. Rare bits of teasing, but not much. At the flip, she asked about L1 and I said yes. Very nice, slow, leisurely HJ and ball massage before the inevitable explosion. Overall, very well done. I staggered out of there, went home, and slept for about 10 hours straight.
[QUOTE=JmSuttr;7432468]I've been seeing Jenny for years[/QUOTE]Great write up Jm, could almost word for word write the exact same for Mira. For many of us, it's more about cultivating an overall experience we can count on long term. We all know there's a hundred (or more) YMMV MPs and CSs here in NoVA where we can just drop in on a whim for a release, and for plenty that's exactly all they want and absolutely nothing wrong with that, as they say TEHO. I'm not personally a FS guy, those days have passed me by, so I very much appreciate this exact "business model" while acknowledging it's not what many here seek.
Lou.
[QUOTE=Jubba;7433153]Copied from my post in the Massage thread:
Back has been all twisted out of shape recently. Based on various reviews, I decided to try out Mandy at May Wellness in Fairfax. Texted and got a response quickly. Showed up a little while later and was let in immediately. She's decent looking, but that's not why I was there. Opted for an hour at 70. She physically abused me for the next 45 minutes with her knees, elbows, forearms, and hands. I begged for more and mercy at the same time. She must have cracked my back 10-12 times. Rare bits of teasing, but not much. At the flip, she asked about L1 and I said yes. Very nice, slow, leisurely HJ and ball massage before the inevitable explosion. Overall, very well done. I staggered out of there, went home, and slept for about 10 hours straight.[/QUOTE]Saw her this past week. I thought she was cute. If you need a strong deep tissue type massage, she is great at it and knows the exact spots to attack. It was pain and relief at the same time.
There was more teasing prior to the flip for me as I am a regular there. L1 was slow and thoughtful, one of the best finishes I have had there.
I see several Thai ladies mentioned on this thread. My question is. Are these Thai ladies that give massages or are they Thai ladies giving Thai massages? I has a non Thai therapist who gave Thai Massages. They were fantastic. Very legit after a few visits they became 'completely relaxing". Unfortunately she is no longer in the area. I'd love to find someone doing Thai massage and L1. If any of you know of one I'd appreciate it. Feel free to PM. TIA. And if I can help in your travels though the State let me know!
[QUOTE=JudTech;7461525]I see several Thai ladies mentioned on this thread. My question is. Are these Thai ladies that give massages or are they Thai ladies giving Thai massages? I has a non Thai therapist who gave Thai Massages. They were fantastic. Very legit after a few visits they became 'completely relaxing". Unfortunately she is no longer in the area. I'd love to find someone doing Thai massage and L1. If any of you know of one I'd appreciate it. Feel free to PM. TIA. And if I can help in your travels though the State let me know![/QUOTE]Mira is good but expensive. She used to work on cruise ships. Probably no extras. I wouldn't talk to her too much. She is depressing: doesn't like it here, going back to Thailand once she has enough money, men want to fuck but not marry, etc. Otherwise, she's great. You will want 90 minutes and that's $140, no extra tip.
[QUOTE=SexRohmer;7461718]Mira is good but expensive. She used to work on cruise ships. Probably no extras. I wouldn't talk to her too much. She is depressing: doesn't like it here, going back to Thailand once she has enough money, men want to fuck but not marry, etc. Otherwise, she's great. You will want 90 minutes and that's $140, no extra tip.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info! I might have to give her a try. I think 90 min for Thai is actually the perfect amount of time. I'd like to find one with L1 as well but this is not a bad 2nd option. Appreciate it!!
Follow her on IG, seems to be very sweet and totally legit. Located in Herndon. Honestly be happy just getting a massage but it's quite a drive for me. Anyone seen her??
[QUOTE=SexRohmer;7461718]Mira is good but expensive. She used to work on cruise ships. Probably no extras. I wouldn't talk to her too much. She is depressing: doesn't like it here, going back to Thailand once she has enough money, men want to fuck but not marry, etc. Otherwise, she's great. You will want 90 minutes and that's $140, no extra tip.[/QUOTE]I Believe Mira is back in Thailand for a while and not sure when she'll return. NO EXTRAS and don't push it, she told me about an incident being asked for extras, she had an odd feeling and suspected the man was Uncle. The 90-minute massage is EXCELLENT, she'll stretch you and work out all the kinks. She does have a heating pad for the table and the studio is on the ground level of a Townhome, there is a full bath available to shower if need be. For the price and the drive (near Sudley & Prince William), it's worth it. One caution, I do believe she's shopping for a husband. As beautiful as she is, don't bite, I've been told if you marry a SE Asian, you marry the whole family and must support them too.
Fella please. Make a forum for legit massages. This is for therapeutic and L1 finishes. Respectfully!