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Wow: first to post here!
I’m not experienced with SM at all. I would love to learn more. Tips, tricks and philosophies appreciated.
Regards, Havanaman
Havanaman's post reminds me:
When asked by the Army recruiting sergeant in [i]Stripes[/i] if he was a homosexual, Bill Murray replies: "Well, no, but is there a special school you'll send me to?" :D
-Uncle Otto
Ah!Well lookie here!
I have a friend who is into it enitrely.What he likes is to have the woman walk over her and, call him every derogatoy name in the book.Now he wants to try "watersports"
And people think I screwed in the head.
I am not much into S&M and have not had much experiance in this area .The closest I have ever been maybe is when a long time ago an old girlfriend let me tie her hands to the bed posts and let me fuck her brains out .Oh Boy ! That brings back some memories ;)
>> And people think I screwed in the head.
The world of "BDSM" as it is often known is roughtly broken down into 3 pursuits. They are:
1. Bondage and Discipline
2. Domination and Submission
3. Sadism and Masochism
There is a significant subculture that considers bdsm and each of its subcultures to me very acceptable and "normal", if perhaps a bit kinkier than vanilla sex.
Personally I don't think they are anymore screwed in the head than we are, just different.
I am just
One Man
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Hey, let's be careful out there, and wear a condom for Pete's (and my) sake
Hi All,
This is a very interesting subject. I just a normal guy who wwants to try out everything. I can't seems to get any of this action in Malaysia.
Had anyone ever had experience like foot workship, coporal punishment, golden shower etc? How does it feels like?
Fetish
I have not been to Malaysia yet, but you can get all you want if you pay for it, this off course is the reason we can all hobby: we pay, they display. Ask your sex providers for what you want and they will probably go for it as long it is not too painful or disgusting to them.
Regards, Havanaman
I feel attracted by the idea of riding a girl like a pony before making sex, does anybody have the same feeling? Do you have experience in this?
Hi people,
I am developing an interest in SM, I was wondering how does 'Tie and Tease' work in practice. I guess I would get tied up and my 'mistress' would play with me. But what I anted to know is after playing with me will I get relief - Hand job or blow job or foot job .
Thanks in advance
Hi all,
I have been in the BDSM lifestyle for the last 13 years and am happy to offer my experience here if it will help out at all. As far as my credentials in the arena, I produce a line of fetish videos that run the gamut from light bondage to extreme spanking, though I will not discuss vending them here. There is enough porn out there that you can go and find your own if you want it badly enough. That being said:
Latin: Generally "pony riding" is female domination over either sex. It boils down to how much you weigh and how strong is the sub. Of course, if you are paying to dominate (this is rare) everything you want to do will be discussed beforehand. Havanaman is dead on in this respect.
nwtn20: There is a world of difference between being tied and teased as part of a service that includes light bondage and teasing to release and actually being tied and teased by a mistress and being dominated via S&M.
S&M is intense and VERY psychological. Most people involved in the scene have long standing relationships based entirely on trust: This is the only way to facilitate complete submision. There is a distinct difference between doing what you are told and submitting to the demands of a master or a mistress. Total submission takes some time to achieve, though it can be rewarding in the sense of breaking down personal barriers and building inner strength and confidence. All good dominants MUST start off as submissives, otherwise there can be no reciprocal understanding of your limits, or knowing and understanding how a punishment can affect you. Like anything else sexwise, there are true providers and girls who spank for money. Unfortunately, there are many, many more of the latter these days.
The critical difference in S&M as opposed to prostitution in general is simple. In real life S&M, sex and/or release isn't the goal, and doesn't have to take place in order to dominate the sub or have what is generally regarded as a successful session. Release is usually seen as a reward for being an obediant submissive; And though some providers will give you a HJ or a BJ to completion, most will force you to do it yourself in the corner, cum on their boots and then lick it up. This is certainly not the hard and fast rule, obviously YMMV, but in S&M you are trying to experience the domination and submission through pain as the catalyst and motivator, not sex.
Hope this was helpful. I'll try to answer any questions you all may have.
Stay Safe
BR,
This is a very interesting discussion. I have a question, it seems that most of the customer are sub (my preception) and enjoy been dominated by their mistress/master. Does the mistress/master actually enjoy punishing their subs?
Fetish,
Your perception is absolutely correct. Almost all of the clientelle are submissives for the simple fact that most dominants already have relationships with their own submissives. A dominant looking to pay to "play" with a submissive should raise an immediate red flag, they are usually untrained and don't know how to focus aggression or to build relationships to express it healthily. In short, they are dangerous.
"Does the mistress/master actually enjoy punishing their subs?"
Sadists, BY DEFINITION enjoy inflicting pain, suffering, punishment, discipline, humilation: call it what you will. I know I get hard (As hard as with Viagra during "vanilla" sex) when I have a sub over my knee and start to spank them, I get turned on when I have them tied to a cross and they are being flogged or having a forced enema, and I have a friend who is a Dominatrix who finds nothing more pleasurable than watching the humiliation and disgust on a sub's face while she urinates on them. As a Dominant, I enjoy punishing my subs, partly because I am a sadist, partly because I know that the sub is loving every minute of it and not getting off (no matter how much they beg), and the extra added bonus is when the sub makes an unintentional mistake that deserves punishment. But I am really into the scene and the lifestyle, so are many of my friends and of course, so are all the people that I play with.
Sadly, there are many, many, many women out there who think that being a Dominatrix is nothing more than a very good paying job with a neat uniform. Do these women (they are not true Dommes after all) really get off on administering punishment? I have heard more than one "Domme" complain about the length of session necessary to satisfy a submissive's tolerance not being worth what they were charging. The focus isn't the money in the real version of this game, though there is money exchanged, it is more of a formality. Mostly I think that the fakers out there do it just for the money and could care less about the sub. If you don't push the sub to their limit you have no place holding a whip.
A true Dom/Domme wants to get that sub to their limit and then push a little further. Maybe not in one session, but as a goal. Luckily the community is pretty tightly knit and a sub looking for a real Dom/Domme can find one who does enjoy it. If the Dom/Domme isn't having any fun, then the sub isn't going to get a good session.
Hope this was helpful,
BR
Not sure if this belongs here but, I'll ask none the less. Have any of you ever done either vaginal or anal fisting on a woman before? I see that this is more common in places like Germany and the Urkraine as I rented a couple of DVDs showing fisting.
I know little of this, but enquiring minds wanna know.
Meat and Gentlemen,
Yup, I've done pussy fisting, a couple of times. Haven't shoved my fist up a ho's ass, though. What would you like to know?
Bend It
Bend It,
I take it you don't have large hands? Or the lady was "well-endowed?" I've only gotten four fingers in my hoes cooches. Seems my thumb gets in the way. But if I ever find an appealing tall, amazon with a big cooch, I'll try the thumb, too.
Peace
Wow - didn't know this section was on the board.
Just a recommendation for all you guys out there (Jackson, I'm not trying to sell the site just relating some info)...try the site alt.com.
I've hooked up with a few women on there. And as they were basically looking for a fun fuck, and were submissive, they let me do all sorts of wierd shit to them.
Of course, it helps to be able to stomach obese crazy chicks - but when you don't need to worry about pleasing them at all (well, I'm not talking about tieing them up on all fours and whipping their ass with a belt), it makes things better.
Plus the site is not all that expensive considering the amount we drop as mongers.
Also a couple things as well about that site - it really educates you as to the formal "scene". Like one of the previous posters said - there is a certain level of understanding and relationship building needed, etc, etc... That's one philosophy. Me, I'm part of the other philosophy, where I don't consider myself part of the scene, but like rough and raunchy sex. But it's good to know the perspectives people have about the subject.
Anyway, I'd like to know about fisting as well. One of the three women I hooked up with, we fuck around every now and then. This chick is sub to the extreme! I mean pretty much nothing is too much.
Anyway, she's a big fat chick with a gaping pussy - and she loves craming big objects into her ass and snatch (she has one of those fist dildos if you've ever seen them)...
Well, we're going to be hooking up soon, and every time I meet here, I try something new...you know so I can check it off of my perverted things to do list. So since she's into fisting (her profile on alt says how she wants to get pictures of her taken while she gets "punchfucked"), I figured I'd try it out.
My main concern however is the danger - as I've heard this is a potentially dangerous act. And the last thing I need is a reinactment of the whorehouse scene with the senator from the Godfather movie.
So how do you execute a safe fisting?
Peace
P.S. By the way fetish - fuck yeah I love doming. It's pure greed and I love it. Kind of can make you feel guilty afterward, because it really pushes your level of depravity. It brings out your dark animal side in a big way.
Gentlemen --
Sorry for not getting back to this forum for a while (was out of town for a couple of weeks).
Daddy Lows, my hands are average size, I think, not small, not large. Have done this with three women and I think they were average sized.
Goo, I love your new word - "punch-fucked"! That sums this fetish up.
In my experience, you need to have a woman who really wants to be submissive. She needs to be really relaxed (drunk doesn't hurt) and you need to work on her clit like crazy. Lots of lube, of course, clit activity, vibrator on her clit, and patience. Once you are in, though, then fuck away and enjoy the look on the b****'s face like she can't believe you're doing this to her.
Best wishes,
Bend It
Regarding safe fisting:
Lots of lube, patience, clitoral stimulation etc. Be sure to take your time, you may not be able to accomplish the full stretch in one session, but the most important thing is to cut your nails and file them smooth... just to be sure though, nitrile gloves are highly recommended.
Have fun...(thank God I'm not a chick!)
Stay Safe
BR
Gentlemen,
Anyone ever ass-fisted a woman? Or is that just something you see in porn?
Bend It
It's not only in porn, but probably not outside of long term relationships either. Same rules apply: manicure, LOTS of lube and patience. It can take months.
A little late to the party Bend It? I already asked that question.:)
The trick is not in getting in five fingers. It's getting past the knuckles that can be the real patience buster.
Once you do though, well, can you say squirt?
Alicia Klass has nothing on my gf.
Benchseats Rock
Greetings fellow pervs (and pervettes).
Fisting is one of the things I love to do. Over the years I've gotten pretty good at it.
As has already been pointed out, fisting requires: lube, PATIENCE (sometimes in abundance), and surgical or other type of latex (or some non-allergenic material - ask the fistee first if she's got an allergy to latex). Latex gloves can be purchased cheaply at any pharmacy. For more exotic gloves, so a web search or 2. There's a web site for medical BDSM toys (name excapes me) and they carry gloves.
The gloves provide a far more slippery surface than just using your bare hands. Lube them up and start the adventure. :-)
I always start with 2 fingers to get the lay of the land - so to speak. How tight is she? How far can she stretch? Then stretch her open with 2 fingers from the other hand. Massaging her clit along the way helps the lubrication process.
Pick a hand and start inserting more fingers. If she stretches well, then you can try the whole hand. One technique is to form your hand by touching the tips of all your fingers and thumb together. This makes a nice sleek sort of giant (but wide) dildo. Insert it SLOWLY, work it in and out, gradually, slowly go deeper. Eventually, you'll get past the mid-knuckles and up to the top knuckles. As someone already pointed out, getting past this point requires patience and practice. But - once you're past the knuckles, what a treat! The phrase "Oh my God!!" can be heard in abundance.
If a woman's delivered a baby vaginally, then (usually) she'll be easier to fist. She's already been streteched.
Be certain to ask her if she's had any surgery on her female parts or if she tore internally during childbirth (if this applies) because scar tissue can prevent sucessful fisting, and may be risky.
I've fisted submissives and slaves, and a small number of providers. My experience tells me that bigger woman are easier to fist (but I once fisted a 5', 110 lb woman who'd never had kids, so go figure).
Just don't ram it in. That just normally doesn't work.
Have fun and keep the lube handy!
Mr Spanky
Bend It and MeatMan,
Yeah, I've anally fisted women before.
Same rules apply: manicure, lube, patience, and as I said in a previous post, surgical/latex gloves.
One sub I had could be fisted in BOTH holes simeltaneously. That was fun. :) I ass-fisted a provider once, too. I've never tried it with SWs though. YMMV.
You'll really want the gloves here. Believe me. Ememas before hand help cut down/eliminate the mess.
Mr Spanky
Mongers,
Would some one help me out here please. I have heard of a place in Thailand that a man could check in and submit 24/7/3days-5days as a sub. I have read the posts on this thread. I'd prefer to be the Dom, but I understand the hiearchy sp. Here are some pics, this American girl was fun . . . met her on Match. I know alot of women want to be submissive but I feel I need some fundamental experience to go where I know a few women want to go. Advise appreciated!
Hey Zidaho,
There is a site that lists professional dominatrixes and masters. I'm sure a local Domme in your area should be able to help you. The site is:
[url]http://www.maxfisch.com[/url]
There are also alot of pages that give the generals of bdsm and some of the ideas/practices of different activities. Do a search for "bdsm faq" and similar phrases.
Good luck on your dominating,
Funinst
[QUOTE=Zidaho]Mongers,
Would some one help me out here please. I have heard of a place in Thailand that a man could check in and submit 24/7/3days-5days as a sub. I have read the posts on this thread. I'd prefer to be the Dom, but I understand the hiearchy sp. Here are some pics, this American girl was fun . . . met her on Match. I know alot of women want to be submissive but I feel I need some fundamental experience to go where I know a few women want to go. Advise appreciated![/QUOTE]
Lots of *FREE* images of B & D for you S / M Fans =
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p.s. As old Uncle Zombie always says :
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I am not much into this part of the spectrum.
However, it is really interesting to know that others enjoy things that I consider 'strange.'
Then again, if we were all the same, then the world would be something boring. I found ' fisting ' to be interesting to say the least.
-007
[QUOTE=Best Tx Monger]I am not much into this part of the spectrum.
However, it is really interesting to know that others enjoy things that I consider 'strange.'
Then again, if we were all the same, then the world would be something boring. I found ' fisting ' to be interesting to say the least.
-007[/QUOTE]
If you liked fisting, you'll love double fisting :)
And Squirting too. I see Benchseat mentioned his girlfriend knowing how to release herself. I LOVE getting hosed by a lady. Worth the work to get them there. I found it was always best to start that after they have been fucked and came a couple of times. :-)
Talk about the perfect position to have your significant other in. Now if I can only find a girl to be a submissive slave like this one.
[url]http://hellselevator.com/Free/preview3/preview/CONTENT/pages/z094.htm[/url]
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Misfit
Medical Fetish includes nurse uniforms, clinic equipment and supplies, latex and rubber goodies, restraints of all types, probes of all kinds, cupping, pumping, sounds, electrostimulation, sharp objects, catheters, enemas, and lots of things you may never have even heard of before.
Even folks not heavily into medical fetish love the Wartenburg Wheel, and many employ e-stim. Dental dams are used for protected DATY and AR. Tuning forks can be fun toys.
Where to find all this fun stuff? Some stuff is available from retailers of sex toys, but there is also a company dedicated to medical fetish items that I've been using for quite a while.
[url]http://www.medicaltoys.com/[/url]
In addition to the types of items mentioned above, and many others, the site has a Medical Fetish Library with educational material on various procedures and techniques.
Play safe
[My only connection to this company is as a satisfied customer.]
[QUOTE=Zidaho]Mongers,
Would some one help me out here please. I have heard of a place in Thailand that a man could check in and submit 24/7/3days-5days as a sub. I have read the posts on this thread. I'd prefer to be the Dom, but I understand the hiearchy sp. Here are some pics, this American girl was fun . . . met her on Match. I know alot of women want to be submissive but I feel I need some fundamental experience to go where I know a few women want to go. Advise appreciated![/QUOTE]Sex stats show about 7% of women are into kink... The starting point is education about safe and sane kink play and more important "Trust" women who are into kink and bondage need to know absolutly you respect there boundries and experience with kink... Experienced Women know fetish play or scene creates more intense orgasms... start with education readthe book "SM-101".... attend some local fetish clubs and take some fetish classes...bondage 101, flogging 101, Masochism - "initial recruiting 90-9-1 rule"
"Of every 100 people you meet 90 will be basically stable and sincere, 9 will be genuinly interested in SM but too unstable to work out well in a SM club and 1 will be outright crazy "
women have to sort out these numbers... that is why referrals and fetish classes are a great way to meet like minded people...
[QUOTE=Horndog132]"Of every 100 people you meet 90 will be basically stable and sincere, 9 will be genuinly interested in SM but too unstable to work out well in a SM club and 1 will be outright crazy "[/QUOTE]
I would find that "1 to be outright crazy" the most fun at being the submissive slave. Females who have a few loose screws in the head can be very fun to play with & are very open minded to just about any fetish.
Misfit
[QUOTE=Misfit]I would find that "1 to be outright crazy" the most fun at being the submissive slave. Females who have a few loose screws in the head can be very fun to play with & are very open minded to just about any fetish.
Misfit[/QUOTE]And you simply have to ask.
Theres a few sites out there that you can have some serious fun with subs who want to share there fantasies with you and they are very much wanting to explore there kinky side.
Happy Hunting..
[QUOTE=Misfit]I would find that "1 to be outright crazy" the most fun at being the submissive slave. Females who have a few loose screws in the head can be very fun to play with & are very open minded to just about any fetish.
Misfit[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=R Consultant]Theres a few sites out there that you can have some serious fun with subs who want to share there fantasies with you and they are very much wanting to explore there kinky side.
Happy Hunting..[/QUOTE]
What sites are you refering to?
Misfit
Misfit, there are probably hundreds if not thousands of sites that cater to all those interested in BDSM. A few that I, as a submissive female, tend to like are Alt.com, MyDungeonSpace.com and Colarme.com.
I like MDS a lot since it has a real "community" feel about it; plus, some of the photography is outstanding. I have a few blogs and photos on there myself (under Verotica). It's a great place for veterans and newbies alike.
Anyway, just some suggestions.
V
By far, the best online resource for BDSM friends is fetlife dot com.
Enjoy, Nice