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Was hoping that we could start a discussion on SB / SD relationships. Does anyone have any experience here that they'd like to share? I, for one, have thought long and hard (no pun intended) about this. I have done a little trolling on a SB / SD site without much success. I saw this topic / thread in another state and it appeared to be going strong.
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[QUOTE=Tonylove465;1562113]Was hoping that we could start a discussion on SB / SD relationships. Does anyone have any experience here that they'd like to share? I, for one, have thought long and hard (no pun intended) about this. I have done a little trolling on a SB / SD site without much success. I saw this topic / thread in another state and it appeared to be going strong.[/QUOTE]This is a great topic. Surprising enough thats how I came to know my current wife. Before I met her I went out on a number of dates with girls from the sites. Never came away empty handed and never gave them money (other than dinner, drinks, etc.). Found some great woman from the sites.
I'm personally a huge fan. I have had a lot of fun with some gorgeous non pro young ladies by simply taking them out on occasion and giving them an allowance that is way less than what a lot of hobbyists drop on Asian experiments and such. There have been duds, too, but generally I've had good luck with it.
Thanks for starting the thread. I have been doing the sugar baby thing for a while now. I have had both good and bad experiences. I like it because it just feels "safer" then an escort that might be under watch for uncle Leo. It is also a lot more GFE when it works as you are normally their only "client".
[QUOTE=TheDistance;1633864]I'm personally a huge fan. I have had a lot of fun with some gorgeous non pro young ladies by simply taking them out on occasion and giving them an allowance that is way less than what a lot of hobbyists drop on Asian experiments and such. There have been duds, too, but generally I've had good luck with it.[/QUOTE]By Asian experiments do you mean AMPs? If so, then I must be under paying at the AMPs or over donating to a SB.
[QUOTE=Indplsgent4fu;1635577]By Asian experiments do you mean AMPs? If so, then I must be under paying at the AMPs or over donating to a SB.[/QUOTE]Really was referring to all the unsatisfied reviews. But SBs can run a wide range of cost for sure. However you can find some sweethearts that are looking for a good relationship with a guy who can be a gentleman and a reliable provider that will give you a month of couple times a week meetings for less than some of the pros reviewed here charge for an hour or two.
[QUOTE=TheDistance;1636334]Really was referring to all the unsatisfied reviews. But SBs can run a wide range of cost for sure. However you can find some sweethearts that are looking for a good relationship with a guy who can be a gentleman and a reliable provider that will give you a month of couple times a week meetings for less than some of the pros reviewed here charge for an hour.[/QUOTE]That sugar babys are constantly calling you can I get a little usually 70 this happens to me 2 or 3 times a week thats after my weekly donation. Asians I know the price usually 100 to 160 depending on age and looks and they never call you!
[QUOTE=Fast Spa;1636350]That sugar babys are constantly calling you can I get a little usually 70 this happens to me 2 or 3 times a week thats after my weekly donation. Asians I know the price usually 100 to 160 depending on age and looks and they never call you![/QUOTE]I usually set an allowance or offer to pay one particular bill and I tell them that I understand that things can come up. If they need extra for something special then they need to come up with something special for me in return. I usually toss in a gift here or there to keep the enthusiasm up. For instance I helped one out with a reasonable down payment on a car she could afford and ended up with one of her friends joining in the fun a couple of times. Was a fantastic investment.
I changed the monthly cost in my last post a bit.
Good thread and I prefer the SD approach over traditional providers for a number of reasons. It's more intimate, same money for more frequent interactions than a traditional provider, and the girls tend to be better looking and younger.
You have to be very careful on the money / negotiations side and set clear boundaries early. Allowances are a bad idea, the girls then cancel and disappear. Money each time and occassional gifts is the way to go.
My best two recent ones were a 25 year old in Anderson, lives by the casino, very pale but great body and fun. I forget her screen name and can't find her on there. Fantastic oral. Other was a mid 20s college student named Haley. Lives on west side off of dandy trail. Big 420 user and I think that's where it all went. Beautiful smile and great body, although she is starting to gain some weight. Lots of fun, loves to party, and will go no condom (which I know is stupid by me) but she's worth it. Had a handle of hspesard and meowallnight, she disappears but usually reappears on the sites. Haven't seen her in a bit though and lost her number but would again in a second when she reappears.
Which websites are the best for finding a sugarbaby?
Ok, so I just signed up for one of these things. I have no idea how to approach someone. I guess the assumption could be made that they are there for the same thing that I am, but the profiles don't really say such. Do these things normally involve an actual date, an escort type of incall thingy, what? I'm not a smooth talker, never have been, but I am pretty outgoing and have some degree of intellect, so not sure how this would all factor into the whole thing.
Suggestions please.
[QUOTE=EarlyCuyler; 1668218]Ok, so I just signed up for one of these things. I have no idea how to approach someone. I guess the assumption could be made that they are there for the same thing that I am, but the profiles don't really say such. Do these things normally involve an actual date, an escort type of incall thingy, what? I'm not a smooth talker, never have been, but I am pretty outgoing and have some degree of intellect, so not sure how this would all factor into the whole thing.
Suggestions please.[/QUOTE]Be friendly but assertive. Email them on he site and be nice and make no price or sex negotiations. Suggest lunch or drinks to see if you have chemistry and don't expect or ask for sex then. Then if you like then, cut your business deal. If they want you to bring money to a meet and greet, back away fast.
On incall, I think half do and half don't so if that's a priority to you get that settled on the initial meet. Both of mine recent SD hook ups did host. One girl in Anderson and her place was fine. Other girl west side (hspesard / meowallnight) and her place was fine but she had a big fat cat that would stare at me as I was having my intimate fun with her.
Good luck!
I too would like to know what's the best way to find a true SB?
I've been on SugarDaddy4you and it's like a crap shoot, a game that I don't want to play.
Some gals were asking "how much allowance / month" that I was willing to give and I hadn't even met them.
Some were just escorts finding a different way to market themselves.
Finding a "true"? SB is not easy.
That's kinda why I started this thread. So we could share ideas on how to go about finding one.
[QUOTE=TheCoach26;1667782]Which websites are the best for finding a sugarbaby?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=TheCoach26;1667782]Which websites are the best for finding a sugarbaby?[/QUOTE]I cannot speak from personal experience. I've been slowly digging through all the subforums here on USA Sex Guide and it looks like the Richmond Virginia SD / SB Forum has a lot activity which I think we may all find useful:
[url]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?9746-quot-Sugarbabies-quot-quot-Arrangements-quot-Amateurs-or-Not[/url]
I'll keep digging through all the other forums and see if any other useful links can be added.
I've actually had my best luck posting on craigslist. I don't go straight for the "SB" throat, but have met my two best by posting a "dance for me" ad for the first and a "massage" ad for the second. The first, the dancer, had never done anything like it before, but had danced ballet and jazz for 11 years, was proud of her body and thought it sounded like fun, we met for dinner, and ended up in a very fun relationship for about six months, until she got way too serious and started wanting to have my babies. This girl was the real deal. 23 years old, college student, pre-med for a PhD (rather than MD) , student senator, family was "Family of the Year", etc. The second had never given a massage before but wanted to try, I said sure, lowballed her on the price but she still bit. Ended up with me massaging her first and then lots of good times over the next few months, until my job posting there was over in December. She was a 21 year old daycare worker that liked going out with older men and liked being spoiled.
I'm attaching a couple of pictures of both for you to get an idea of the quality that $600/mth (plus whatever I spent actually taking her out) and $800 / mth (we never had a set amount, but that's about what my burn rate on her was) can provide. The first two pictures are of the daycare worker (~$800 mth), the second two (caramel skin) are of the student ($600/mth for her rent).
[QUOTE=Tonylove465; 1670429]I too would like to know what's the best way to find a true SB?
I've been on SugarDaddy4you and it's like a crap shoot, a game that I don't want to play.
Some gals were asking "how much allowance / month" that I was willing to give and I hadn't even met them.
Some were just escorts finding a different way to market themselves.
Finding a "true"? SB is not easy.
That's kinda why I started this thread. So we could share ideas on how to go about finding one.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=TheDistance;1692921]I'm attaching a couple of pictures of both for you to get an idea of the quality that $600/mth (plus whatever I spent actually taking her out) and $800 / mth (we never had a set amount, but that's about what my burn rate on her was) can provide. The first two pictures are of the daycare worker (~$800 mth), the second two (caramel skin) are of the student ($600/mth for her rent).[/QUOTE]If you don't mind me asking, what did those monthly amounts plus incidentals get you in terms of visits per month? And were these visits more GFE than Pro (sounds like they were, just curious for a little more detail). Also, did you pay the money up front, say first of the month for rent and hope the visits came after?
BTW, kudos to you! Both those Babies are smokin!
LL
[QUOTE=DirkMcQuickley; 1679709]The Richmond Virginia SD / SB Forum has a lot activity which I think we may all find useful:
[url]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?9746-quot-Sugarbabies-quot-quot-Arrangements-quot-Amateurs-or-Not[/url]
I'll keep digging through all the other forums and see if any other useful links can be added.[/QUOTE]Is a gold mine. Subscribe to it then take your time reading through all the past posts. The pussy is abundant my friends, the pussy is abundant.
LL
2-4 times a week, total GFE relationship, going out for dinner, hanging out watching TV, spending the night on occasion, weekend trips, etc. The way I explain it with them when I suggest the idea is that I'm looking for a relationship that's caring, but stops short of the whole falling in love complication. We both have a responsibility to each other and I expect to be a priority, just as she should expect me to be responsible with my commitment to her. Beyond that I let things evolve pretty naturally. I always treat them like a lady, and I think that's part of the draw.
I'm always cautious up front, so I may start off on a "weekly" basis and know I may eat a visit. It's happened, I just accept it as part of the process. Once some trust is built, I don't mind shifting to a larger payment, like the rent up front. I'm also really quick to pull the plug if I feel like things are getting out of balance.
It's probably worth mentioning I've had some interesting disasters, too. For instance, I took a potential shopping, had a little bit of fun, and figured it would be interesting to evolve. Then, a few days later my phone starts blowing up with calls from the Hamilton County jail. I couldn't understand the name that was being left on my VM, but I realized, after a couple of days, I hadn't heard from my prospective SB and I looked up the inmate list. Sure enough, there she was, locked up for failure to appear. She continued to blow up my phone - I'm talking 30-40 calls per day - for a couple of weeks and then finally gave up. I wasn't about to bail someone out of jail after one meeting.
[QUOTE=LuckyLou; 1693160]If you don't mind me asking, what did those monthly amounts plus incidentals get you in terms of visits per month? And were these visits more GFE than Pro (sounds like they were, just curious for a little more detail). Also, did you pay the money up front, say first of the month for rent and hope the visits came after?
BTW, kudos to you! Both those Babies are smokin!
LL[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=TheDistance;1693254]2-4 times a week, total GFE relationship, going out for dinner, hanging out watching TV, spending the night on occasion, weekend trips, etc.[/QUOTE]Nice, very nice. Thank you for contributing and for responding to the post.
LL.
P. S. Keep the photos coming;.p
Distance,
I have posted a couple ads on Craigslist. However, there are SO many men posting on there, it's seems to get lost. Also a lot of spam responses.
I like the idea though.
I wish more people would partake in this thread. I did notice a couple other cities posted a similar thread after I put this up.
I think that today there are many females our there that would be willing. It's just trying to find them. Seems that the younger generation is a little more accepting of these types of relationships.
I think one area that I would look into is waitresses. A lot of them are attending school and needing help with bills.
I didn't even notice this thread down here at the bottom. I posted in the General reports that I've been trolling MyGirlFund lately. Seems to be the kind of place we're looking for. There are a LOT of camgirls on there, but with some time spent sifting and chatting a few up, there are working girls to be found. There's no location search which is frustrating, and it's definitely not a complete replacement for PoF, but the hunt is there and it's fun.
WC-
This sounds a lot like "WhatsYourPrice?"
A lot of work and playing games. Trying to weed out the scam, cams and phonies.
I know I'm probably looking for something that I will member find.
Good to hear from ya.
TL
[QUOTE=West Central;1702320]I didn't even notice this thread down here at the bottom. I posted in the General reports that I've been trolling MyGirlFund lately. Seems to be the kind of place we're looking for. There are a LOT of camgirls on there, but with some time spent sifting and chatting a few up, there are working girls to be found. There's no location search which is frustrating, and it's definitely not a complete replacement for PoF, but the hunt is there and it's fun.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=DirkMcQuickley; 1679709]I cannot speak from personal experience. I've been slowly digging through all the subforums here on USA Sex Guide and it looks like the Richmond Virginia SD / SB Forum has a lot activity which I think we may all find useful:
[url]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?9746-quot-Sugarbabies-quot-quot-Arrangements-quot-Amateurs-or-Not[/url]
I'll keep digging through all the other forums and see if any other useful links can be added.[/QUOTE]Already been said, but check out the Richmond, VA site for info on Sugarbabies. It is a gold mine.
And I would advise you to use seeking arrangement. Com. I've had way more success on that one than SD4Me which is mostly pros, bots etc.
Happy hunting,
HC
[QUOTE=TheDistance; 1693254]2-4 times a week, total GFE relationship, going out for dinner, hanging out watching TV, spending the night on occasion, weekend trips, etc. The way I explain it with them when I suggest the idea is that I'm looking for a relationship that's caring, but stops short of the whole falling in love complication. We both have a responsibility to each other and I expect to be a priority, just as she should expect me to be responsible with my commitment to her. Beyond that I let things evolve pretty naturally. I always treat them like a lady, and I think that's part of the draw.
I'm always cautious up front, so I may start off on a "weekly" basis and know I may eat a visit. It's happened, I just accept it as part of the process. Once some trust is built, I don't mind shifting to a larger payment, like the rent up front. I'm also really quick to pull the plug if I feel like things are getting out of balance.
It's probably worth mentioning I've had some interesting disasters, too. For instance, I took a potential shopping, had a little bit of fun, and figured it would be interesting to evolve. Then, a few days later my phone starts blowing up with calls from the Hamilton County jail. I couldn't understand the name that was being left on my VM, but I realized, after a couple of days, I hadn't heard from my prospective SB and I looked up the inmate list. Sure enough, there she was, locked up for failure to appear. She continued to blow up my phone. I'm talking 30-40 calls per day. For a couple of weeks and then finally gave up. I wasn't about to bail someone out of jail after one meeting.[/QUOTE]I just put $40 on the books for an old SB be of mine from 6 years ago. My, how the mighty have fallen.
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[QUOTE=LuckyLou; 1693776]Nice, very nice. Thank you for contributing and for responding to the post.
LL.
P. S. Keep the photos coming; . P[/QUOTE]Have been pretty busy with life lately so really haven't been around here a lot. But did want to share the latest success to again let you guys know what can be found with a little leg work and patience. She's 20, a junior at IUPUI, very smart, sweet, good student. Works out 2-3 times a week and is absolutely as solid as a rock. I see her 1-3 times a week, mostly restricted by my schedule. She's always on time (or even early, who ever heard of that?) , eager to please and is really very sexual and sexy for such a young woman. $150 / week and hasn't asked for a penny more.
Found on craigslist.
[QUOTE=TheDistance; 1883317]Have been pretty busy with life lately so really haven't been around here a lot. But did want to share the latest success to again let you guys know what can be found with a little leg work and patience. She's 20, a junior at IUPUI, very smart, sweet, good student. Works out 2-3 times a week and is absolutely as solid as a rock. I see her 1-3 times a week, mostly restricted by my schedule. She's always on time (or even early, who ever heard of that?) , eager to please and is really very sexual and sexy for such a young woman. $150 / week and hasn't asked for a penny more.
Found on craigslist.[/QUOTE]She is absolutely gorgeous. Congratulation on what sounds like a perfect union of supply and demand.
LL.
Ps. Keep those photos coming my man!
[QUOTE=TheDistance; 1883317]Have been pretty busy with life lately so really haven't been around here a lot. But did want to share the latest success to again let you guys know what can be found with a little leg work and patience. She's 20, a junior at IUPUI, very smart, sweet, good student. Works out 2-3 times a week and is absolutely as solid as a rock. I see her 1-3 times a week, mostly restricted by my schedule. She's always on time (or even early, who ever heard of that?) , eager to please and is really very sexual and sexy for such a young woman. $150 / week and hasn't asked for a penny more.
Found on craigslist.[/QUOTE]Just my type. Awesome
Please get her to pose more even if you can't show her face. Would love to see more of her ass, pussy and tits. Thanks.
[QUOTE=TheDistance; 1883317]Have been pretty busy with life lately so really haven't been around here a lot. But did want to the latest success to again let you guys know what can be found with a little leg work and patience. She's 20, a junior at IUPUI, very smart, sweet, good student. Works out 2-3 times a week and is absolutely as solid as a rock. I see her 1-3 times a week, mostly restricted by my schedule. She's always on time (or even early, who ever heard of that?) , eager to please and is really very sexual and sexy for such a young woman. $150 / week and hasn't asked for a penny more.
Found on craigslist.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=WhenWhen;1883887]Please get her to pose more even if you can't show her face. Would love to see more of her ass, pussy and tits. Thanks.[/QUOTE]Took this after our meeting today. Not going to do a full "spread" but just wanted to show a little of the other side of the equation. By the way, those are real.
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Keep 'them coming. She's amazing!
[QUOTE=TheDistance; 1890363]Took this after our meeting today. Not going to do a full "spread" but just wanted to show a little of the other side of the equation. By the way, those are real.
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Be careful as hot as that looks you could become a Baby Daddy real quick. Is she exclusive with you or do you share the fare for the month Hell I would travel for a piece of that myself. As I said You are one lucky man WW. PT
[QUOTE=Puntang Man;1895854]Be careful as hot as that looks you could become a Baby Daddy real quick. Is she exclusive with you or do you share the fare for the month Hell I would travel for a piece of that myself. As I said You are one lucky man WW. PT[/QUOTE]I'm careful about it and she's pretty career minded. It's exclusive. She doesn't have time for a normal relationship so this scratches her itch and she is able to get her nails and hair done and accent her wardrobe. She works and that covers her living expenses. I'm just helping her enjoy some luxury.
I finally completed the survey of all the subforums on USA Sex Guide and here are all the links that specifically cater to SD / SB relationships:
Highest Activity:
The Richmond Virginia board is clearly the hotbed of activity with 333 pages of reading at this time (link at bottom).
Modest Activity:
The Los Angeles California has a decent amount of activity with 29 pages of reading.
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?10455-Sugar-Daddy-Sites[/URL]
The Las Vegas Nevada board has 8 pages of reading.
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?10729-The-Sugar-World[/URL]
Our Indianapolis board is next at 3 pages of activity.
Weak Activity:
Louisville Kentucky has a small board with only 1 page of reading.
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?10690-Sugar-Babies[/URL]
Cincinnati Ohio has a small board with only 1 page of reading.
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?10668-Sugarbabies[/URL]
The deadest board of all is in Seattle Washington (only two posts).
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?10905-Sugar-Babies-and-Daddies-Advice-and-Reports[/URL]
That's it. I was surprised that there were no SB / SD boards in big cities / states like New York, Texas and Washington DC. Ah well. Enjoy the reading. I know I will.
[QUOTE=DirkMcQuickley;1679709]I cannot speak from personal experience. I've been slowly digging through all the subforums here on USA Sex Guide and it looks like the Richmond Virginia SD / SB Forum has a lot activity which I think we may all find useful:
[url]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?9746-quot-Sugarbabies-quot-quot-Arrangements-quot-Amateurs-or-Not[/url]
I'll keep digging through all the other forums and see if any other useful links can be added.[/QUOTE]
Where do you find real sugar daddy? I would give him ton tlc. I wouldn't take him granted. No luck yet. ("Wild women do"Natalie Cole).