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There were so many clues. I should have known better. In hindsight there were many things I could have been smarter about. It is so easy to be a Monday morning quarterback about the whole thing, step by step. But, when the little head is doing the thinking, and you let your guard down with a sly, drug-addicted SW, you can get snookered.
The date started out fine. Danielle was smiling, vibrant and cheerful. I had every expectation she would be fun. I began by suggesting an indoor date because I was in the mood for FS. She wanted to cop first. I wasn’t having any parts of that. She said it would be a lot more fun if she could cop first because she would feel less anxious and would feel less pressured for time and we could relax and enjoy ourselves. She was convincing, but I still wasn’t having any of it. She finally said we could go park for the suck half and then later go for the fuck half indoors, if she could cop in between. I still was hesitant, but she said the place she had to go was just a block off the K and not dangerous, she would be in and out in 5 minutes, and not bring any stuff to my car. Not only that, but she promised that it would be the absolute best fuck of my life. She wore down my resistance and was lovably convincing if such is even conceivable in a SW.
So, off we went to park for the first half of our date. She actually did do a pretty good sucking job. Maybe that was her incentive to set me up for stage two. On the way back she mentioned that she had a phone that was always in working order, unlike the other girls on the Ave and had her own place where we could go in the future when her roomie wasn’t there, and she even had a car, so we could meet at prearranged notels in the future. All of this was quite smooth and put me at ease. All I can say is that she had her act down pat and it is damn good 'cause I believed her.
After the deed we parked near the place she was going to cop. I told her I would pay her for half the date so she could cop and the other half when the date was completely over. She pleaded for the whole amount, promising very earnestly that she would be right back and that she really wanted to continue the date and have more fun. Her plea was very convincing. At this moment I had all the leverage. But this was the moment where I turned soft, caved and was conned.
I once saw a movie about con artists and the con was explained this way: the person conning you does not give you his/her confidence; you give him/her your confidence. Why do you so willingly do that?: because you get something out of it. What did I get out of this transaction?: I got to feel good that I was doing her a favor and I was going to get great sex as a result. I was naïve and I was greedy and I am experienced enough to know a LOT better. At least I got my cock sucked. It just cost me a lot more than that for which I had bargained.
As I sat there and the time passed, I was thinking to myself what an ass I was. She had the money. She had nothing more to gain by returning. She had conned me into thinking that she actually thought a future good date relationship was worth returning for and completing the date. I called the number she had given me and it should have been no surprise that it didn't work. Shame on her for ripping me off; shame on me for being so gullible.
If this was a football rivalry(the Mongers vs. the SWs?), then this is like a scouting report on a new offensive play being employed by the opposition. It’s a pretty good play. What did I learn from this? Something I thought I knew already: NEVER, EVER let a SW cop with your dough before the date is finished, even if it’s a variation of that, and half of the date is finished, no matter how sweet and pleasant and convincing she is.
PS: Danielle allowed me to take a few pics with the understanding that I didn’t post them on the internet. I guess she wasn’t thinking that one through very thoroughly prior to ripping me off. I would normally have been true to my word on this, but fuck you darlin’. What goes around comes around. Payback is a biatch!
Here are a few pics of her so you can be forewarned of this variation of the old “I need to cop before the date” ploy.
Sorry for you bad experience. I think from time to time we all have one of those.
But I thank you for taking time to post and share it. This is the value of this site - some intel on who are the bad dates or ones to avoid.
Your misfortune combined with your report is a good service.
Here's to hoping your future dates are better!
[QUOTE=Mad Monger]There were so many clues. I should have known better. In hindsight there were many things I could have been smarter about. It is so easy to be a Monday morning quarterback about the whole thing, step by step. But, when the little head is doing the thinking, and you let your guard down with a sly, drug-addicted SW, you can get snookered.
The date started out fine. Danielle was smiling, vibrant and cheerful. I had every expectation she would be fun. I began by suggesting an indoor date because I was in the mood for FS. She wanted to cop first. I wasn’t having any parts of that. She said it would be a lot more fun if she could cop first because she would feel less anxious and would feel less pressured for time and we could relax and enjoy ourselves. She was convincing, but I still wasn’t having any of it. She finally said we could go park for the suck half and then later go for the fuck half indoors, if she could cop in between. I still was hesitant, but she said the place she had to go was just a block off the K and not dangerous, she would be in and out in 5 minutes, and not bring any stuff to my car. Not only that, but she promised that it would be the absolute best fuck of my life. She wore down my resistance and was lovably convincing if such is even conceivable in a SW.
So, off we went to park for the first half of our date. She actually did do a pretty good sucking job. Maybe that was her incentive to set me up for stage two. On the way back she mentioned that she had a phone that was always in working order, unlike the other girls on the Ave and had her own place where we could go in the future when her roomie wasn’t there, and she even had a car, so we could meet at prearranged notels in the future. All of this was quite smooth and put me at ease. All I can say is that she had her act down pat and it is damn good 'cause I believed her.
After the deed we parked near the place she was going to cop. I told her I would pay her for half the date so she could cop and the other half when the date was completely over. She pleaded for the whole amount, promising very earnestly that she would be right back and that she really wanted to continue the date and have more fun. Her plea was very convincing. At this moment I had all the leverage. But this was the moment where I turned soft, caved and was conned.
I once saw a movie about con artists and the con was explained this way: the person conning you does not give you his/her confidence; you give him/her your confidence. Why do you so willingly do that?: because you get something out of it. What did I get out of this transaction?: I got to feel good that I was doing her a favor and I was going to get great sex as a result. I was naïve and I was greedy and I am experienced enough to know a LOT better. At least I got my cock sucked. It just cost me a lot more than that for which I had bargained.
As I sat there and the time passed, I was thinking to myself what an ass I was. She had the money. She had nothing more to gain by returning. She had conned me into thinking that she actually thought a future good date relationship was worth returning for and completing the date. I called the number she had given me and it should have been no surprise that it didn't work. Shame on her for ripping me off; shame on me for being so gullible.
If this was a football rivalry(the Mongers vs. the SWs?), then this is like a scouting report on a new offensive play being employed by the opposition. It’s a pretty good play. What did I learn from this? Something I thought I knew already: NEVER, EVER let a SW cop with your dough before the date is finished, even if it’s a variation of that, and half of the date is finished, no matter how sweet and pleasant and convincing she is.
PS: Danielle allowed me to take a few pics with the understanding that I didn’t post them on the internet. I guess she wasn’t thinking that one through very thoroughly prior to ripping me off. I would normally have been true to my word on this, but fuck you darlin’. What goes around comes around. Payback is a biatch!
Here are a few pics of her so you can be forewarned of this variation of the old “I need to cop before the date” ploy.[/QUOTE]
Isn't that Darlene? Did you happen to see if she had name tatooed on her belly? If so, it's a shame to see her sinking like that.
Mad Monger. I also thank you for relating your tale and educating others to the intricacies of mongering. Can you help me out with the abbreviation "cop"? I've RTFF and even looked under Jackson's abbreviations and I can't find what this stands for?
Thanks,
LD
[QUOTE=LurkingDog; 1120435]Mad Monger. I also thank you for relating your tale and educating others to the intricacies of mongering. Can you help me out with the abbreviation "cop"? I've RTFF and even looked under Jackson's abbreviations and I can't find what this stands for?
Thanks,
LD[/QUOTE]This is probably in reference to a SW wanting to "cop a fix" of her drugs while she is with you.
[QUOTE=Butch50;1120285]Isn't that Darlene? Did you happen to see if she had name tatooed on her belly? If so, it's a shame to see her sinking like that.[/QUOTE]No that's not Darlene. Danielle used to hang out by little Lou's
Sorry, I hope you won't take this the wrong way but you are an idiot. Maybe I have some insight because I used to "cop" and I now have radar for anything slightly illogical let alone the complete bullshit you were fed. I know the other mongers here are sympathetic, but I think you need to hear it this way. Just a hunch I suppose. Next time you could get robbed or shot. Don't trust an addict. They are not very bright and only care about one thing. She would have followed you to a dark alley in the next town over if you bothered to with hold her dough. I do sympathize with you though. I have done worse. Much worse in fact. But someone else was there to tell me to stop being an idiot.
GL
[QUOTE=LurkingDog; 1120435]...Can you help me out with the abbreviation "cop"? Thanks,
LD[/QUOTE][b]From Urban Dictionary:[/b]
Cop: to get. Receive. Purchase, steal or have.
Useage: Yo I'm about to cop some dope, want some?
(I thought everybody knew this one. For the record, you can also "Cop a feel," meaning to grab a girls ass or breast.
LOL)
CookyJar
[QUOTE=Butch50;1120285]Isn't that Darlene? Did you happen to see if she had name tatooed on her belly? If so, it's a shame to see her sinking like that.[/QUOTE]No that wasn't Darlene. Danielle used to hang around little Lou's. The other SW'ers also had issues with her as well, she would always be trying to beat out other girls from their dates. Back in the spring of 2010 I was dating a girl Carissa who was staying at Ivans place. Normally I would just call the house and date her there (convenient and safe for me) but once I saw her at little Lou's and figured I'd pull over. Not realizing when I pulled over almost a block later that when my door opened Danielle jumped in. I looked at the a bit stunned and told her I was waiting for Carissa and that she needed to leave. She then started in with trashing Carissa and begging me to date her instead. About this time Carissa came up to the door and Danielle with a bit of resistance finally got out.
So after that incident I never picked up Danielle, but she then always acted like she knew me, would do the wave, yell out Hi Dave and be insistent everytime I pulled over that I should let her in my car and even tell other girls that I was stopping for her and not them. What a royal pain in the ass she was, glad I haven't seen her for a while now.
[QUOTE=Davey1965; 1121315]No that wasn't Darlene. Danielle used to hang around little Lou's. The other SW'ers also had issues with her as well, she would always be trying to beat out other girls from their dates. Back in the spring of 2010 I was dating a girl Carissa who was staying at Ivans place. Normally I would just call the house and date her there (convenient and safe for me) but once I saw her at little Lou's and figured I'd pull over. Not realizing when I pulled over almost a block later that when my door opened Danielle jumped in. I looked at the a bit stunned and told her I was waiting for Carissa and that she needed to leave. She then started in with trashing Carissa and begging me to date her instead. About this time Carissa came up to the door and Danielle with a bit of resistance finally got out.
So after that incident I never picked up Danielle, but she then always acted like she knew me, would do the wave, yell out Hi Dave and be insistent everytime I pulled over that I should let her in my car and even tell other girls that I was stopping for her and not them. What a royal pain in the ass she was, glad I haven't seen her for a while now. [/QUOTE]I'm glad it wasn't Darlene. I hope she is getting over her illness, it's been a while since I last saw her and remember she was getting the worse for wear. (Don't they all?) Darlene was a good girl at heart, and I hope she got out. Danielle sounds like a real PITA.
Thanks for sharing the heads up info.
Getting a date withe her was always a challenge, but when it finally happened, It was worth the effort. Not any more. I called and set up an all nighter. Went to pick her up at her step dad's place. She made sure to get the $100 stashed away before telling me her next date was in 2 hours. After a little arguing, I realized I had been conned. My options were walk away, without my money, or do a quickee in the back room. I figured I should try and get something for my money. Took of my jacket and went to the bathroom to piss. Nothing like finding the "boyfriend" hiding behind the shower curtain. I told her to get rid of him so we could have our date. They step outside to chat. He comes back in. She is gone. I waited 15 min to see if she was coming back. Then I left. Did not see to many options.
Just because you have a great date once, don't let your guard down.
[b][size=3][color=red]WOW!!![/color][/size][/b]
[QUOTE=HungryCoyote; 1335172]Getting a date withe her was always a challenge, but when it finally happened, It was worth the effort. Not any more. I called and set up an all nighter. Went to pick her up at her step dad's place. She made sure to get the $100 stashed away before telling me her next date was in 2 hours. After a little arguing, I realized I had been conned. My options were walk away, without my money, or do a quickee in the back room. I figured I should try and get something for my money. Took of my jacket and went to the bathroom to piss. Nothing like finding the "boyfriend" hiding behind the shower curtain. I told her to get rid of him so we could have our date. They step outside to chat. He comes back in. She is gone. I waited 15 min to see if she was coming back. Then I left. Did not see to many options.
Just because you have a great date once, don't let your guard down.[/QUOTE]Hottie Nicole has been a sexual staple on Kensington Avenue for a couple of years now. She was working for Bishop but, I believe she may have recently changed handlers. She has been reviewed on USASexGuide by me and a few other mongers. Most of her previous reviews range from OK to great. She has a number of pictures available. Are we talking about the same girl?
HungryCoyote, I truly hate saying this but, it begs saying. There is no fool like an old fool. Short of having a gun pointed at my head, there is no way I am giving a StreetWalker $100 up front. That is beyond a rookie mistake. Why you would hand her a dime while at her place, in her surroundings where she is in control, is mind boggling. Were you drunk, high or both?
Were you planning of doing the all nighter at her step dad's place? No way! Rookie mistake number two. Stinks of a set-up. Most pimps will not allow this type of thing to happen at their place. You could, if you wanted too, go back and retaliate. Why would a well known pimp, jeopardize his place of business?
I've heard of guys being taken, under similar circumstances when dating a BP girl or escort at their hotel room But, at her step dads place, with a StreetWalker, what were you thinking.
No disrespect intended but, you let more than your guard down. Be careful out there.
CookyJar
I did a post on Rip Offs a while back. In particular Krazie Katie. She is now hanging behind Little Lous where it is dark and where she works the best. To all of you that may come in contact with this nut job, avoid her. Plain and simple. She is still as aggressive as always and will not hesitate to harm you. She also frequents the block past Ontario toward Tioga. Again a not well lit area. Be very very careful. You would be better off dating a pitt bull.
[quote]Hottie Nicole has been a sexual staple on Kensington Avenue for a couple of years now. She was working for Bishop but, I believe she may have recently changed handlers. She has been reviewed on USASexGuide by me and a few other mongers. Most of her previous reviews range from OK to great. She has a number of pictures available. Are we talking about the same girl?
HungryCoyote, I truly hate saying this but, it begs saying. There is no fool like an old fool. Short of having a gun pointed at my head, there is no way I am giving a StreetWalker $100 up front. That is beyond a rookie mistake. Why you would hand her a dime while at her place, in her surroundings where she is in control, is mind boggling. Were you drunk, high or both?
Were you planning of doing the all nighter at her step dad's place? No way! Rookie mistake number two. Stinks of a set-up. Most pimps will not allow this type of thing to happen at their place. You could, if you wanted too, go back and retaliate. Why would a well known pimp, jeopardize his place of business?
I've heard of guys being taken, under similar circumstances when dating a BP girl or escort at their hotel room But, at her step dads place, with a StreetWalker, what were you thinking.
No disrespect intended but, you let more than your guard down. Be careful out there.
CookyJar[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the heads up. What does she look like?
[QUOTE=Gator145;1335294]I did a post on Rip Offs a while back. In particular Krazie Katie. She is now hanging behind Little Lous where it is dark and where she works the best. To all of you that may come in contact with this nut job, avoid her. Plain and simple. She is still as aggressive as always and will not hesitate to harm you. She also frequents the block past Ontario toward Tioga. Again a not well lit area. Be very very careful. You would be better off dating a pitt bull.[/QUOTE]