View Full Version : "Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?
CantWinLosin
07-27-18, 14:18
Anyone seen her?
https://www.seeking.com/member/273daaf4-079a-424a-8e8d-4c1c12c46a90I've tried to set up a meeting with her but our schedules wouldn't mesh, mostly because she is / was in Petersburg and wouldn't meet in the middle. She's got a bit of attitude. Her FB page shows that she's a little heavier than her SA pics might indicate but she's still very sexy. She is living with a black guy and seems to prefer black guys.
Her purse was stolen 2 days ago with all her money and wants 700 for rent and then we can meet up. Mighty big purse if it had 700 in it.
https://www.seeking.com/member/55c05190-cccd-4dcf-bd53-7c5831c9cfc4Tried to check her out just now and wouldn't you know it, her profile is gone. So, you're probably right, scammer.
I've tried to get a response from her several times with luck. And she's pretty intermittent in even logging into the site and ignores msgs. Too bad. She's a stunner.You have to wonder if some of these gals post a profile just to stroke their egos by watching all the emails flooding in that someone has looked at or favorited their profile.
I know I certainly get that shot of adrenalin whenever I hear the little PING of my phone when another email pops into my inbox! LMAO.
CrazySpice
07-27-18, 19:01
Any intel on this one? Feel free to PM me.
https://www.seeking.com/member/7e251f78-3391-4a8b-ae56-47cbab664b0b
This one is in Charlottesville. Selling pics only.
https://www.seeking.com/member/3ff76da8-3b47-41ee-9ba2-bf51ba9cc774She told me the same thing. It's too bad because she's hot!
Has anyone met bnicole27 or sweetlilyjay? Thanks.
Tried to check her out just now and wouldn't you know it, her profile is gone. So, you're probably right, scammer.She's not a scammer, at least she didn't use to be one. I met her a couple of times in the last couple of months. I had fun every time we met.
Member #6951
07-28-18, 07:28
Very worthwhile app. Pay for premium. It is worth it. Good way to verify in a lot of cases. Similar to the old phone number search in Facebook.
JustLonely
07-28-18, 07:49
She's not a scammer, at least she didn't use to be one. I met her a couple of times in the last couple of months. I had fun every time we met.I replied to her that I wasn't that rich and that sounds like a scam. She replied that she wasn't a scammer and that we could meet and gave me her out of the area phone number. I did not reply. She must have been getting the same responses and just gave up. Cute girl in her pics.
I replied to her that I wasn't that rich and that sounds like a scam. She replied that she wasn't a scammer and that we could meet and gave me her out of the area phone number. I did not reply. She must have been getting the same responses and just gave up. Cute girl in her pics.She's definitely needy and wants to meet all the time. I'm happy to share more if you want to send a private message but maybe things have changed for her in the last couple of weeks.
Hey brothers, anybody given Angelcake222 a run? She reached out to me on SA, said she had what I wanted and when we started texting and discussing allowance she said that her previous arrangements have all given her 3 k a month for once a week and 1. 5 k a month for twice a month. Oh my, that's some serious GPS fellas. She's cute and I'd take her for a ride but not at 750 a pop. Good grief! What is going on these days with these girls on SA? I know there are differing opinions out there about allowance but if any of you mother fuckers are giving up 750 a week for someone like Angel, please stop that shit!
Incognito I Am
07-29-18, 18:44
So I see that ever since they changed their domain name they also no longer accept PayPal. Most PP cards are not for international, any ideas on how to not use a personal CC?You actually have a few different options with that.
- You could email Customer service with your info, and they will charge your PP card / Gift Card.
- You could actually get a reload-able Prepaid card. Register it how you'd like to, and then use it. (of course this isn't the option of choice).
- And lastly there is a gift card (visa and mastercard) that does work on this site. These particular gift cards are "distributed & serviced by Blackhawk Network. " And you can purchase them locally.
Hope this helps you and those that prefer maintaining true anonymity.
CantWinLosin
07-30-18, 13:16
Hey brothers, anybody given Angelcake222 a run? She reached out to me on SA, said she had what I wanted and when we started texting and discussing allowance she said that her previous arrangements have all given her 3 k a month for once a week and 1. 5 k a month for twice a month. Oh my, that's some serious GPS fellas. She's cute and I'd take her for a ride but not at 750 a pop. Good grief! What is going on these days with these girls on SA? I know there are differing opinions out there about allowance but if any of you mother fuckers are giving up 750 a week for someone like Angel, please stop that shit!Had to search for her, she's outside my std search params. Not my type at all. Looks like she'd have GPS just from her pics. And I agree completely about not encouraging GPS.
FarFarAway
07-30-18, 13:18
You actually have a few different options with that.
- You could email Customer service with your info, and they will charge your PP card / Gift Card.
- You could actually get a reload-able Prepaid card. Register it how you'd like to, and then use it. (of course this isn't the option of choice).
- And lastly there is a gift card (visa and mastercard) that does work on this site. These particular gift cards are "distributed & serviced by Blackhawk Network. " And you can purchase them locally.
Hope this helps you and those that prefer maintaining true anonymity.Please be a little more specific about those Blackhawk giftcards that work.
Had to search for her, she's outside my std search params. Not my type at all. Looks like she'd have GPS just from her pics. And I agree completely about not encouraging GPS.Can you link her profile? I've been on SA for 6 months, talked to a ton, hung out with a bunch, and still don't know how to search for a specific girl. Thanks!
Asking for a friend:
He is a SD, 50+, married, no sex W mrs for months now.
He wants to have a vasectomy for obvious reasons but without the wife knowing somehow.
Is that even possible?
He knows the procedure is simple and the scar is small but the post-op recovery of several days and the insurance process seem to make it impossible for him to hide this?
What do you think?
FarFarAway
07-30-18, 20:14
This is quite the little SB. She was totally sweet, hot and into it at the M&G, making out for some time and raving about it. She said she didn't have any idea what was appropriate sugar, even though she had listed substantial on her profile, so she would let me decide. At the first FC, all went well in my opinion. We both got off, spent a lot of time together, said the right words. I gave her $ to cover the room, + $220 cash, + a Victoria Secret gift card and a bottle of champagne she took home (morning FC, she didn't want to drink). Now, I cannot get her to respond to my texts. I know some SDs are one-and-done, perhaps she was too? I would love a repeat performance. I am having a milestone birthday, and she's like 28.
CantWinLosin
07-30-18, 21:54
Can you link her profile? I've been on SA for 6 months, talked to a ton, hung out with a bunch, and still don't know how to search for a specific girl. Thanks!https://www.seeking.com/member/c2c72bc5-0bda-408d-9b0d-e0a643ca2596
Member #6951
07-30-18, 23:58
This is quite the little SB. She was totally sweet, hot and into it at the M&G, making out for some time and raving about it. She said she didn't have any idea what was appropriate sugar, even though she had listed substantial on her profile, so she would let me decide. At the first FC, all went well in my opinion. We both got off, spent a lot of time together, said the right words. I gave her $ to cover the room, + $220 cash, + a Victoria Secret gift card and a bottle of champagne she took home (morning FC, she didn't want to drink). Now, I cannot get her to respond to my texts. I know some SDs are one-and-done, perhaps she was too? I would love a repeat performance. I am having a milestone birthday, and she's like 28.Some girls are one and done. Was she new to the bowl? Maybe she has a boyfriend / husband and was exploring. Maybe she just had second thoughts. Maybe she's a nympho that just wants to fuck for variety's sake. I wouldn't sweat it. Lord knows SDs do disappear as well. I'll not push any further. She clearly doesn't want to engage right now. And maybe try an innocent check in after a few weeks.
So I see that ever since they changed their domain name they also no longer accept PayPal. Most PP cards are not for international, any ideas on how to not use a personal CC?Not only that, the new one-month subscription is recurring. However, if you use the Android app, you can still get a one-month non-recurring subscription and you can pay with PayPal through google checkout. Obviously I'd recommend using a burner phone, including a fake gmail and PayPal account. But it still can be done.
BTW, for a while now, on the app only, there has been a 1-week trial membership for around $30. That's definitely enough time to get a few numbers. But the trial is only offered if you sign up with a new account and with an email you haven't used on SA before. I'm not totally sure if this is still offered.
The SA app sucks, so once I subscribe I just use the mobile site. If you pay on the app you can still use the website, of course.
Asking for a friend:
He is a SD, 50+, married, no sex W mrs for months now.
He wants to have a vasectomy for obvious reasons but without the wife knowing somehow.
Is that even possible?
He knows the procedure is simple and the scar is small but the post-op recovery of several days and the insurance process seem to make it impossible for him to hide this?
What do you think?Had a buddy that got one while the wife was out of town. He was back on his feet in a couple of days and she's none the wiser. So have your friend send her on a trip.
This may have happened to some of you, but going to share this as it is the first time happened to me (reason for not showing up). It is intriguing to me. I was taking to this 18 yr old girl on SA. She is a premium member, so don't know when she joined. Well figured slim girl. Much better communication than any other 18 yr old on SA I talked to. After about a week of chat we set up a meet and greet for a dinner. She was on time. Well mannered sweet girl. We got alone very well. Told be she had a SD before. She never asked or mentioned about allowance. Anyway, I gave her $50 gift card after the dinner. We kissed good bye. She was interested on a date and we set up a date few days later. We discussed about me getting a hotel room, she was up for that. I din't see any hesitation at all. She never mentioned about an allowance. We have been chatting and confirming the date. We were supposed to meet at 3 PM, she confirmed in the morning too. Around 12 noon, I get a text from her that she went to the doctor day before and get tested for STD and two STD's came back positive, so she had to cancel the date. I asked her to take care of the situation and wished luck. My first reaction was that it was an iron clad way of shutting me from trying to see her again for some reason. But, if that was the case (if she didn't like me) why she agreed for a date after meeting me. May be she had a cold feet. Or found a better SD. I noted it has been about 3 weeks she didn't log on to SA after that day although her profile is still there. She told me when we met that she works part time at a health clinic, may be this is true. Anyway, just though of sharing.
Stay Safe.
Dr. S.
This may have happened to some of you, but going to share this as it is the first time happened to me (reason for not showing up). It is intriguing to me. I was taking to this 18 yr old girl on SA. She is a premium member, so don't know when she joined. Well figured slim girl. Much better communication than any other 18 yr old on SA I talked to. After about a week of chat we set up a meet and greet for a dinner. She was on time. Well mannered sweet girl. We got alone very well. Told be she had a SD before. She never asked or mentioned about allowance. Anyway, I gave her $50 gift card after the dinner. We kissed good bye. She was interested on a date and we set up a date few days later. We discussed about me getting a hotel room, she was up for that. I din't see any hesitation at all. She never mentioned about an allowance. We have been chatting and confirming the date. We were supposed to meet at 3 PM, she confirmed in the morning too. Around 12 noon, I get a text from her that she went to the doctor day before and get tested for STD and two STD's came back positive, so she had to cancel the date. I asked her to take care of the situation and wished luck. My first reaction was that it was an iron clad way of shutting me from trying to see her again for some reason. But, if that was the case (if she didn't like me) why she agreed for a date after meeting me. May be she had a cold feet. Or found a better SD. I noted it has been about 3 weeks she didn't log on to SA after that day although her profile is still there. She told me when we met that she works part time at a health clinic, may be this is true. Anyway, just though of sharing.
Stay Safe.
Dr. S.I met a girl on SA one time back in the early spring that my buddy saw two or three times. After the third time, they had a meeting set up and he got a similar story about STDs. I'm wondering if it's the same girl. If you don't mind sharing the name, send me a private message. Thanks!
https://www.seeking.com/member/c2c72bc5-0bda-408d-9b0d-e0a643ca2596I haven't come across her yet but the GPS and the ones who want me to pay for pictures only is out of control. I hope it changes when VCU is back in school.
CantWinLosin
07-31-18, 13:57
I haven't come across her yet but the GPS and the ones who want me to pay for pictures only is out of control. I hope it changes when VCU is back in school.Not to mention a big increase in the number of "platonic only" girls in the 18-24 age range. These girls are getting fed a lot of propaganda about what a SB is, and while that sort of situation may be more common in LA or NYC, this is still just a small southern bible-belt town; the number of men with the kind of spendable cash and interests to match that kind of girl is very small, and that number is made smaller still by the fact that discretion (from wifey, from friends and co-workers, from fellow church-members, etc.) and an arm-candy girl don't go together.
I'm going to be moving out of state in the near future. Already started making some contacts in the place I'm moving to. Luckily, where I'm moving has a *ton* of killer 35+ MILFs on SA and the other SB sites. I can avoid the drama, BS and games the 25-and-under girls tend to put you through.
CantWinLosin
07-31-18, 14:27
Asking for a friend:
He is a SD, 50+, married, no sex W mrs for months now.
He wants to have a vasectomy for obvious reasons but without the wife knowing somehow.
Is that even possible?
He knows the procedure is simple and the scar is small but the post-op recovery of several days and the insurance process seem to make it impossible for him to hide this?
What do you think?
Had mine almost 30 years ago, after my 3rd child was born. Recovery time, discomfort level and visible signs (swelling, visible scars, etc.) vary a good deal from guy to guy. I had minimal swelling and only a day of any significant discomfort, though I was ginger in my movements and went commando under lose pants for a week after using a jockstrap the first couple days.
Keep in mind: they shave you around the suture sites, so if you don't normally shave your balls the work will be noticeable for a while after it's done, and if you do shave, the scars will be red and plainly visible for at least 2-3 weeks. Hiding it from a SO would be pretty difficult unless your friend is in the "we never see each other naked" sub-species of marriage. If your friend is part of that last camp, it might be doable - he may need to come up with an, "I had an accident at work and got racked really hard so my balls are sore" line of BS for the SO. Otherwise, unless the SO takes a business trip or vacation, your friend is unlikely to be successful at hiding it.
Oh, one other thing: Some studies have shown that men who have a vasectomy in their relatively early years (mine was at 34) are *much* more likely to experience significant ED, and somewhat more likely to experience prostate enlargement and related urinary issues, in their 50's and beyond. I can personally confirm both. The former of these problems is exacerbated by smoking and/or alcohol ("whiskey dick") so if your friend is under 40 or so, especially if he smokes and/or drinks considerably, he should consider the long-term potential for problems he may not want to have. Not to discount the kind of problem a preggers 20-something SB would be for his marriage, of course... :)
CantWinLosin
07-31-18, 14:42
This may have happened to some of you, but going to share this as it is the first time happened to me (reason for not showing up). It is intriguing to me. I was taking to this 18 yr old girl on SA. She is a premium member, so don't know when she joined. Well figured slim girl. Much better communication than any other 18 yr old on SA I talked to. After about a week of chat we set up a meet and greet for a dinner. She was on time. Well mannered sweet girl. We got alone very well. Told be she had a SD before. She never asked or mentioned about allowance. Anyway, I gave her $50 gift card after the dinner. We kissed good bye. She was interested on a date and we set up a date few days later. We discussed about me getting a hotel room, she was up for that. I din't see any hesitation at all. She never mentioned about an allowance. We have been chatting and confirming the date. We were supposed to meet at 3 PM, she confirmed in the morning too. Around 12 noon, I get a text from her that she went to the doctor day before and get tested for STD and two STD's came back positive, so she had to cancel the date. I asked her to take care of the situation and wished luck. My first reaction was that it was an iron clad way of shutting me from trying to see her again for some reason. But, if that was the case (if she didn't like me) why she agreed for a date after meeting me. May be she had a cold feet. Or found a better SD. I noted it has been about 3 weeks she didn't log on to SA after that day although her profile is still there. She told me when we met that she works part time at a health clinic, may be this is true. Anyway, just though of sharing.
Stay Safe.
Dr. S.Whether or not I believed her would depend on how she told me. If she told me in a manner that demonstrated some concern for me since she would have potentially exposed me to the STD, then I'd be more likely to believe her. If she didn't, I'd ask to see the test results "before contacting my doctor" - her response (or lack of it) to that request would confirm the suspicions, or not.
I haven't come across her yet but the GPS and the ones who want me to pay for pictures only is out of control. I hope it changes when VCU is back in school.Man, you had me worried there at first, thought you were interested in that GPS and willing to meet her allowance demands!
I don't blame a girl for trying to get top dollar for her puss but damn, she's cute but her "perfect pussy" (her words) is no where near that valuable.
Some girls are one and done. Was she new to the bowl? Maybe she has a boyfriend / husband and was exploring. Maybe she just had second thoughts. Maybe she's a nympho that just wants to fuck for variety's sake. I wouldn't sweat it. Lord knows SDs do disappear as well. I'll not push any further. She clearly doesn't want to engage right now. And maybe try an innocent check in after a few weeks.Man, I hate to admit it but I do that to some of these SBs as well. I like variety. But I also like really good sex and when I find an SB with whom I connect and we have some chemistry the sex is better than ever and I'll repeat at least one more time. But, it's happened to me as well. I linked up with a hot little nurse earlier this month and had a great time, with us agreeing to see each other the following week. Lots of sexy texting back and forth for four days and then the day before the next meet she just goes silent. Her profile goes away and she doesn't respond to my texts. She lived with her boyfriend and I suppose there's always a possibility that he caught on to what she was up to. Regardless, I've moved on even though I was ready to visit her in a flash if she were still around.
https://www.seeking.com/member/aa8821d9-de5d-4e4a-bd40-010a3153e395
Asking for a friend:
He is a SD, 50+, married, no sex W mrs for months now.
He wants to have a vasectomy for obvious reasons but without the wife knowing somehow.
Is that even possible?
He knows the procedure is simple and the scar is small but the post-op recovery of several days and the insurance process seem to make it impossible for him to hide this?
What do you think?I had my vasectomy done about 3 years ago at 48. It couldn't have been easier.
I did some research and ended up going with a "no needle, no scalpel" guy; a urologist / surgeon who specializes in vasectomies as well as reversing them. I did it on a Friday, so I would have the weekend to recover. He had me wash the boys with Hibiclens (Over the counter anti-bacterial liquid soap) a couple of times before the procedure, and shave the front of my balls (no big noticeable bald patch). I went in, pulled down my pants (didn't even take them off, he said it's easier in the end to just pull them up again), sat in his reclining chair. A couple of those hi-pressure "injections" of anesthetic to the lads and one very small, hardly noticeable small puncture later, (about 10-15 min) I was done. Tiny band-aid to cover the wound, no stitches, no nothing. Easily hideable from a Ms.
Doc gave me a prescription for Vicodin which I never even filled.
Spent the weekend taking it easy, with an occasional ice pack on my balls. I went to work Monday, and it began to feel a little painful from walking around the office. I called and told the Dr. About it, he said to try Ibuprofin. Worked like a charm. Couple of days of that, and I was like new again.
Went back 6 or 8 weeks later for the sperm test, all clear.
I highly recommend finding someone who specializes in the no needle, no scalpel type of procedure. My insurance even covered it 100%. Didn't cost me a dime.
Overall, if you need to get this done on the sly, in my opinion this is the way to go. I didn't need to, but it would have been super easy to hide the fact that I'd had anything done.
Yes she was fun. Saw twice, very cute.
Man, I hate to admit it but I do that to some of these SBs as well. I like variety. But I also like really good sex and when I find an SB with whom I connect and we have some chemistry the sex is better than ever and I'll repeat at least one more time. But, it's happened to me as well. I linked up with a hot little nurse earlier this month and had a great time, with us agreeing to see each other the following week. Lots of sexy texting back and forth for four days and then the day before the next meet she just goes silent. Her profile goes away and she doesn't respond to my texts. She lived with her boyfriend and I suppose there's always a possibility that he caught on to what she was up to. Regardless, I've moved on even though I was ready to visit her in a flash if she were still around..
https://www.seeking.com/member/aa8821d9-de5d-4e4a-bd40-010a3153e395Not worth the time to chat with, only to be told her expectations which are off the chart.
She messaged me cold laying out a novel length explanation of her virtues.
Does anyone remember this one from last fall? A former VCU student turned NYC model / dope fiend, she returned to Richmond to get away from the needle and work the SB scene. She and I exchanged a few texts then she disappeared. I understand she ripped off a few guys w / o fucking before going back north. Well someone is playing on her phone. I received some pretty provocative texts and photo requests mid-evening recently. We chatted and it was clear she had no idea who I was and I didn't try to remind her. I'm 90% sure it was not her. Heads up brothers!
CantWinLosin
08-01-18, 09:47
https://www.seeking.com/member/aa8821d9-de5d-4e4a-bd40-010a3153e395She's been on SA for a decade, with the same unrealistic expectations and the same self-absorbed attitude. I think she spends some time in NYC and DC, where she may be able to find more men with the means she expects and a willingness to put up with her attitude.
Never forget: no matter how hot she is, some guy somewhere is tired of her shit.
Madaboutmax
08-01-18, 13:21
I knew who this was even before I looked at the profile.
LOL. I believe she used to call herself the Baroness. Major GPS and not even close to worth it IMHO.
She's been on SA for a decade, with the same unrealistic expectations and the same self-absorbed attitude. I think she spends some time in NYC and DC, where she may be able to find more men with the means she expects and a willingness to put up with her attitude.
Never forget: no matter how hot she is, some guy somewhere is tired of her shit.
JustLonely
08-01-18, 14:43
I knew who this was even before I looked at the profile.
LOL. I believe she used to call herself the Baroness. Major GPS and not even close to worth it IMHO.She told me her expectations depended on how interesting she found me. She messaged me first and wanted to know too much about my occupation. I. e. Ability to pay.
Anyone seen her?
https://www.seeking.com/member/273daaf4-079a-424a-8e8d-4c1c12c46a90I met her onetime a while back she hosted near the forest hill area, she is hot wasn't heavy at that time its been a year may be now! But she is got nice hot body tall and huge tits for 3 bens.
https://www.seeking.com/member/24af3b24-2f96-42f8-8ef6-6f2c00683fda
This one gave me shock of my lifetime! Wanted $500 per meet non intimate. She is hot but no where near worth that much.
GPS all around, more and more on the site WTF.
I think there may be another scam going around, I was Favorited by a 18 hottie from NC in the nearby town her handle was.
Bunnylover11; she said she will make the journey. Wow she was so sweet and said she will drive 3 1/2 hours to see me! Nice daddy like me she wanted make the journey just for me all I had to do was to send her money for gas!
Another one from Williamsburg building up a case for me to donate for travel to Canada she doesn't have enough money to go! She is gone from the site now.
WTF these young ones think after being on there for few days they can scam a man who may be thinking with their dicks!! They won't be doing these sort of scams if they are not working on some morons!
Are may be there are pros using pictures of other places trying to scam people.
https://www.seeking.com/member/aa8821d9-de5d-4e4a-bd40-010a3153e395I spent a week texting with this one, she was fairly persistent but has a bad case of GPS and insisted on a monthly allowance. I'm sorry, I just don't do monthly allowance, I just don't. No guarantee the SB won't just ghost you as soon as you hand over the cash. Besides, there are plenty o' fish out there who will agree to PPM if you're so inclined.
She told me her expectations depended on how interesting she found me. She messaged me first and wanted to know too much about my occupation. I. e. Ability to pay.I'm always circumspect when the SB approaches me first, especially when they are really attractive. This one approached me as well and once she insisted on her unrealistic expectation for a monthly allowance I stopped responding to her texts.
I haven't seen them in quite some time but there for a while there were a couple of BDSM profiles with smoking hot chicks that were trolling the SDs. I almost fell for one of them but, thankfully, the big head took over.
The Baroness. Somehow I had totally forgotten her former profile, yeah she is full of it.
I knew who this was even before I looked at the profile.
LOL. I believe she used to call herself the Baroness. Major GPS and not even close to worth it IMHO..
Don't do monthly either. I have faked it some saying we can work up to that as we build trust, but still not happening. Have had a couple pre-pays I have done in the past cause they needed the money now before we could meet again, which I had only agreed to because we had met before and had some fun, with the promise I will get mine later, still waiting for later.
I spent a week texting with this one, she was fairly persistent but has a bad case of GPS and insisted on a monthly allowance. I'm sorry, I just don't do monthly allowance, I just don't. No guarantee the SB won't just ghost you as soon as you hand over the cash. Besides, there are plenty o' fish out there who will agree to PPM if you're so inclined..
Madaboutmax
08-02-18, 03:30
". So you know I was the keynote speaker at the Sugarbaby Summit in April, speaking as a sex and relationship therapist. ".
It's women like this that contribute to the GPS frenzy. She speaks to other potential SBs and promotes her style of being an SB.
I've read Blogs where women justify being an SB as a "full time legitimate job". They spend lots of time and money making themselves look good and polishing their social skills to attract "a real SD". They promote "knowing your worth" and not accepting less. They discuss how to avoid the "intimacy issue" by hinting at future intimacy. They claim to create great experiences for their SD's, but yet are actively searching for a new SD every day.
I've asked the question: If you are creating such a great experience why are you looking for a new SD everyday and not having ongoing arrangements with your SD?
Much of what attracts many girls to the site is the promise of Big Fish that are willing to spend lots of money and won't expect intimacy (or at least can be held at bay with unfulfilled promises of intimacy).
The Baroness. Somehow I had totally forgotten her former profile, yeah she is full of it.
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GoneForDays
08-02-18, 06:49
Don't do monthly either. I have faked it some saying we can work up to that as we build trust, but still not happening. Have had a couple pre-pays I have done in the past cause they needed the money now before we could meet again, which I had only agreed to because we had met before and had some fun, with the promise I will get mine later, still waiting for later.
.Once you find that one that lives alone in her own apartment, is hot in bed, appreciates all the little gifts you give her, makes time for you by moving her schedule around, you'll know that you are going to be giving her an allowance. Or at least a number of cash payments each month adding to an allowance.
I've found that one girl that deserves an allowance. I get to bareback her and not worry about it. Her boyfriend is on the west coast and I get to beat that pussy up twice a week for way less than a hooker would charge.
There are a few girls on SA that are in it to be a good SB. Don't paint them all as sharks.
Madaboutmax
08-02-18, 07:27
I have done weekly or bi-weekly allowances a few times, but only with girls I've learned to trust and developed an ongoing relationship with.
I never agree to a monthly allowance from the start, but let them know it is something I've done in the past after we have established we have a strong connection, are confident we both want to continue and developed trust. Prior to that, the only fair option is a per meet allowance. With a monthly allowance, either the guy is providing allowance hoping the girl holds up her end, or the girl provides her part hoping the guy will come thru with the allowance. Too many sketchy men and women on the site to do that.
I've had very few disagree.
Once you find that one that lives alone in her own apartment, is hot in bed, appreciates all the little gifts you give her, makes time for you by moving her schedule around, you'll know that you are going to be giving her an allowance. Or at least a number of cash payments each month adding to an allowance.
I've found that one girl that deserves an allowance. I get to bareback her and not worry about it. Her boyfriend is on the west coast and I get to beat that pussy up twice a week for way less than a hooker would charge.
There are a few girls on SA that are in it to be a good SB. Don't paint them all as sharks.
The plain truth is that for the right girl most guys on the site would be thrilled to provide any type of allowance she desires. However the girls that are on there to scam, lie, steal are the vast majority and you simply cannot give them the benefit of the doubt until you know for sure who you're dealing with. You can bet your bottom dollar that any girl that asks for a monthly allowance up-front is going to ghost you. Same for someone you've seen that asks for an advance as she triple-promises to make it up to you later (yeah right).
So yeah, there are a few good ones on there but it's a game of needle in a haystack.
Once you find that one that lives alone in her own apartment, is hot in bed, appreciates all the little gifts you give her, makes time for you by moving her schedule around, you'll know that you are going to be giving her an allowance. Or at least a number of cash payments each month adding to an allowance.
I've found that one girl that deserves an allowance. I get to bareback her and not worry about it. Her boyfriend is on the west coast and I get to beat that pussy up twice a week for way less than a hooker would charge.
There are a few girls on SA that are in it to be a good SB. Don't paint them all as sharks.
GoneForDays
08-02-18, 11:38
I agree it is a lot of work finding the right one that you know you can work a real arrangement with. I would not be comfortable if the girls started dictating terms before we met. There were plenty of them that I talk to and I told them what my idea of a fair monthly allowance would be and they were just too high and I moved on. The best thing about SA is that you can pretty quickly weed out the girls that are unrealistic without even meeting them. I thought I should just put in my two cents about making an arrangement versus buying a date and leaving the future unresolved. The good ones aren't really going to be interested in doing that.
If you do set the expectations up front that she can count on a steady stream from you, it gets really easy to move to the FC. I try to go with the idea that I'm going to be a perfect gentleman at the first meeting look her over, make the decision pretty quickly if I'm going to slide that first envelope cash over to her at that lunch or dinner or whatever. If I decide that I'm going to bed this girl four to six times a month why wouldn't I slip her a few hundred bucks if I'm getting the vibe that she wants to get to know me better. Right there I'm establishing my level of serious interest she knows I'm for real. With the girl I'm seeing now the next time we met we were in bed in under 15 minutes. You have to be willing to risk a little cash to gain their trust. You are going to have to tell them what you want and what your monthly budget is.
For me it turns out that this is a girl who had one boyfriend in high school, another guy who is 2000 miles away and comes back almost never, has no tattoos no piercings pretty much the ideal SB. She likes older guys she likes to be treated special and I'm hoping it's a good long run for the both of us.
The plain truth is that for the right girl most guys on the site would be thrilled to provide any type of allowance she desires. However the girls that are on there to scam, lie, steal are the vast majority and you simply cannot give them the benefit of the doubt until you know for sure who you're dealing with. You can bet your bottom dollar that any girl that asks for a monthly allowance up-front is going to ghost you. Same for someone you've seen that asks for an advance as she triple-promises to make it up to you later (yeah right).
So yeah, there are a few good ones on there but it's a game of needle in a haystack.
DirtyDeeds38
08-02-18, 12:56
I agree it is a lot of work finding the right one that you know you can work a real arrangement with. I would not be comfortable if the girls started dictating terms before we met. There were plenty of them that I talk to and I told them what my idea of a fair monthly allowance would be and they were just too high and I moved on. The best thing about SA is that you can pretty quickly weed out the girls that are unrealistic without even meeting them. I thought I should just put in my two cents about making an arrangement versus buying a date and leaving the future unresolved. The good ones aren't really going to be interested in doing that.
If you do set the expectations up front that she can count on a steady stream from you, it gets really easy to move to the FC. I try to go with the idea that I'm going to be a perfect gentleman at the first meeting look her over, make the decision pretty quickly if I'm going to slide that first envelope cash over to her at that lunch or dinner or whatever. If I decide that I'm going to bed this girl four to six times a month why wouldn't I slip her a few hundred bucks if I'm getting the vibe that she wants to get to know me better. Right there I'm establishing my level of serious interest she knows I'm for real. With the girl I'm seeing now the next time we met we were in bed in under 15 minutes. You have to be willing to risk a little cash to gain their trust. You are going to have to tell them what you want and what your monthly budget is.
For me it turns out that this is a girl who had one boyfriend in high school, another guy who is 2000 miles away and comes back almost never, has no tattoos no piercings pretty much the ideal SB. She likes older guys she likes to be treated special and I'm hoping it's a good long run for the both of us.It's not going to workout that way 99% of the time. I have hardline rules of my own I follow and I do not divert from them, ever. Your scenario is what creates what I term, "serial meet and greeters" They go on dates and get slipped a few hundred here and there and realize it's easier them actually ever going to the FC and they just do that. NEVER and I repeat NEVER, pay a girl for a drink or dinner date. UNLESS, that is truly your thing and that is what you want. IE, you're too old or a medical condition keeps you from performing and you just want a woman's company. But suggesting you're showing good faith for the future? No offense my brother, but these girls will laugh at you as they walk out of the dinner date with your cash.
CantWinLosin
08-02-18, 13:15
". So you know I was the keynote speaker at the Sugarbaby Summit in April, speaking as a sex and relationship therapist. ".
It's women like this that contribute to the GPS frenzy. She speaks to other potential SBs and promotes her style of being an SB.
I've read Blogs where women justify being an SB as a "full time legitimate job". They spend lots of time and money making themselves look good and polishing their social skills to attract "a real SD". They promote "knowing your worth" and not accepting less. They discuss how to avoid the "intimacy issue" by hinting at future intimacy. They claim to create great experiences for their SD's, but yet are actively searching for a new SD every day.
I've asked the question: If you are creating such a great experience why are you looking for a new SD everyday and not having ongoing arrangements with your SD?
Much of what attracts many girls to the site is the promise of Big Fish that are willing to spend lots of money and won't expect intimacy (or at least can be held at bay with unfulfilled promises of intimacy).There are places that can support that sort of SB culture, but they're few and far between. Not every town is LA, DC, NYC or Chicago; in most places, few men have the financial wherewithal to live that lifestyle, and their number is made much smaller by the nature of the location. Here in RIC, for example: at the end of the day, this is still a relatively small, southern, bible-belt town, and even those with the means and desire to support a SB in that kind of lavish lifestyle worry about the social / family / business aspects of being seen out on the town with arm candy. And the competition for those few men is stiff.
As for why they're always looking: being a full-time SB is essentially a cashflow-based sales business. They have to keep the pipeline filled with prospects, because guys are falling out the other end of the pipe all the time. Barroness and those like her know that any of their current mealtickets can bail on them at any time, so they're constantly working to find new meat even when their schedule is full, and thet're adept at keeping guys on the hook until they can fit them into the rotation. Their lifestyle becomes a take on the 1st Gas Law: the outgo always expands to consume all the available income. But they get very accustomed / addicted to it when times are fat, and want to make very sure the lean times are kept at bay.
Sooner or later, time and gravity catches up to us all. And while some may have truly been smart and packed away a great nestegg for the golden years, those are really few and far between. My bet is that sooner or later, you'll find most of the Barroness' of this world behind the counter at Wawa because their looks and figure are gone and they have no skills or work history to draw on for finding anything better. (Well, if Barroness really has the education and experience she claims, she will probably do OK. Most won't.).
In my humble opinion the big spenders are not and have never been on SA. Even in LA of NYC the really big fish are not browsing the ads for their next $10 k a month side piece. Any guy worth tens of mils will find more than enough girls and better girls just going to expensive restaurants, country clubs, golf courses, marinas, and other every day activities. Keep in mind those businesses run with the help of hundreds of young women being hostesses, answering phone, serving food, and doing the thousands of jobs needing to be done. For anyone looking for a SB in that environment it's going to be a piece of cake.
Any tall tale of super spendy SDs on SA is going to be met by a serious doubt on my part...
There are places that can support that sort of SB culture, but they're few and far between. Not every town is LA, DC, NYC or Chicago; in most places, few men have the financial wherewithal to live that lifestyle, and their number is made much smaller by the nature of the location. Here in RIC, for example: at the end of the day, this is still a relatively small, southern, bible-belt town, and even those with the means and desire to support a SB in that kind of lavish lifestyle worry about the social / family / business aspects of being seen out on the town with arm candy. And the competition for those few men is stiff.
As for why they're always looking: being a full-time SB is essentially a cashflow-based sales business. They have to keep the pipeline filled with prospects, because guys are falling out the other end of the pipe all the time. Barroness and those like her know that any of their current mealtickets can bail on them at any time, so they're constantly working to find new meat even when their schedule is full, and thet're adept at keeping guys on the hook until they can fit them into the rotation. Their lifestyle becomes a take on the 1st Gas Law: the outgo always expands to consume all the available income. But they get very accustomed / addicted to it when times are fat, and want to make very sure the lean times are kept at bay.
Sooner or later, time and gravity catches up to us all. And while some may have truly been smart and packed away a great nestegg for the golden years, those are really few and far between. My bet is that sooner or later, you'll find most of the Barroness' of this world behind the counter at Wawa because their looks and figure are gone and they have no skills or work history to draw on for finding anything better. (Well, if Barroness really has the education and experience she claims, she will probably do OK. Most won't.).
In my humble opinion the big spenders are not and have never been on SA. Even in LA of NYC the really big fish are not browsing the ads for their next $10 k a month side piece. Any guy worth tens of mils will find more than enough girls and better girls just going to expensive restaurants, country clubs, golf courses, marinas, and other every day activities. Keep in mind those businesses run with the help of hundreds of young women being hostesses, answering phone, serving food, and doing the thousands of jobs needing to be done. For anyone looking for a SB in that environment it's going to be a piece of cake.
Any tall tale of super spendy SDs on SA is going to be met by a serious doubt on my part...Where is the fucking "Like" button around here??
I would add that "hostesses" in the country clubs are likely to be daughters of some of the members. I'd challenge anyone to go down to Sawgrass PGH and check the hostesses out. Those chicks come from money. In the kitchen, waitress or behind the bar? Open season.
Too risky, I am sure there are some that it could work with but I have not found one yet who was not okay wth receiving the cash after the FC fun.
The plain truth is that for the right girl most guys on the site would be thrilled to provide any type of allowance she desires. However the girls that are on there to scam, lie, steal are the vast majority and you simply cannot give them the benefit of the doubt until you know for sure who you're dealing with. You can bet your bottom dollar that any girl that asks for a monthly allowance up-front is going to ghost you. Same for someone you've seen that asks for an advance as she triple-promises to make it up to you later (yeah right).
So yeah, there are a few good ones on there but it's a game of needle in a haystack.
CantWinLosin
08-03-18, 06:43
In my humble opinion the big spenders are not and have never been on SA. Even in LA of NYC the really big fish are not browsing the ads for their next $10 k a month side piece. Any guy worth tens of mils will find more than enough girls and better girls just going to expensive restaurants, country clubs, golf courses, marinas, and other every day activities. Keep in mind those businesses run with the help of hundreds of young women being hostesses, answering phone, serving food, and doing the thousands of jobs needing to be done. For anyone looking for a SB in that environment it's going to be a piece of cake.
Any tall tale of super spendy SDs on SA is going to be met by a serious doubt on my part...That's certainly true, for some. The problem with the Country Club Scenario and others like it is that it's indiscreet; the club is populated with people who know them from the outside world - work, friends, church, etc. - and all the risks that brings. For some men, that's not a concern. But for many it is. Do it in a southern bible-belt area like here, and the risks go up.
I know through family connections a top exec for one of the Big 3 auto makers. He's ridiculously wealthy, socially very active, and could play the scenario you describe with impunity. Yet he's on SA. Why? Discretion, variety, the thrill of the chase, and being able to cut all ties when the time comes. (You score the bartender at the country club, cool, but when you're done with her, you still have to see her every time you play a round of golf or attend a fundraiser, and she could talk shit about you to others who personally know you. Awkward.).
There are rich men on SA. Not many, but they're there. It's just that, for a multitude of reasons, they're very rare, and the smaller and more backwater the area, the fewer there are as a percentage of the total number of men in the bowl for that area.
Madaboutmax
08-03-18, 07:44
I'm sure there are wealthy men on SA for the reasons you describe. It makes sense to remain anonymous, discreet and find variety.
I know a very wealthy guy that hangs out at strip clubs. He throws ridiculous money to have strippers spend private time with him at his condo. The girls know he is a big spender, likes variety and won't get attached. For many of the girls it's ideal when they are in a pinch and need quick funds. Like a safety net. He's not the best looking guy, is arrogant and controlling, but the girls aren't looking for a relationship. I know he is also on SA.
I've had some of the same strippers offer to spend time with me for 1/5th what he pays them. They consider me charming, attractive, down to earth and not creepy or psycho. I think girls on SA are a lot the same. You don't have to compete with the "rich guys" because they are often one and done, boring, arrogant, controlling and unattractive. If not, they get so much pussy they can't handle it all.
A lot of girls will give you credit for appearance, confidence, maturity, personality, sanity and sexual skills.
When girls on SA tell me about big money their last SD gave them, I ask them why it didn't last. I tell them I'm fortunate I haven't had to pay that much and have had several succesful arrangements last over a year. I either peak their interest or quickly filter out GPS.
That's certainly true, for some. The problem with the Country Club Scenario and others like it is that it's indiscreet; the club is populated with people who know them from the outside world - work, friends, church, etc. - and all the risks that brings. For some men, that's not a concern. But for many it is. Do it in a southern bible-belt area like here, and the risks go up.
I know through family connections a top exec for one of the Big 3 auto makers. He's ridiculously wealthy, socially very active, and could play the scenario you describe with impunity. Yet he's on SA. Why? Discretion, variety, the thrill of the chase, and being able to cut all ties when the time comes. (You score the bartender at the country club, cool, but when you're done with her, you still have to see her every time you play a round of golf or attend a fundraiser, and she could talk shit about you to others who personally know you. Awkward.).
There are rich men on SA. Not many, but they're there. It's just that, for a multitude of reasons, they're very rare, and the smaller and more backwater the area, the fewer there are as a percentage of the total number of men in the bowl for that area.
I still think the number of truly wealthy guys on SA is infinitely small. If a wealthy guy is that concerned with discretion he'll use one of the many very well established escort agency whose whole reason for being is supplying 9's and 10's for big bucks or something like striper bars. And that bartender at the restaurant, the thousand (or two) a pop she gets is a bit to drop her panties and very much so to keep her mouth shut. We're not talking about dating here but a sugar scenario.
All this to say that when all these girls on SA claim they're used to getting big big bucks I know it's a lie every single time.
I'm sure there are wealthy men on SA for the reasons you describe. It makes sense to remain anonymous, discreet and find variety.
I know a very wealthy guy that hangs out at strip clubs. He throws ridiculous money to have strippers spend private time with him at his condo. The girls know he is a big spender, likes variety and won't get attached. For many of the girls it's ideal when they are in a pinch and need quick funds. Like a safety net. He's not the best looking guy, is arrogant and controlling, but the girls aren't looking for a relationship. I know he is also on SA.
When girls on SA tell me about big money their last SD gave them, I ask them why it didn't last. I tell them I'm fortunate I haven't had to pay that much and have had several succesful arrangements last over a year. I either peak their interest or quickly filter out GPS.
The truly wealthy don't have the time it takes to find the gems on SA. Their time is worth more than any woman's they could find on the site.
So other than just sharing a photo and saying "ill give you $1000 to spend the night as my sex slave" I don't see them spending the time on it.
JustLonely
08-03-18, 13:10
Anyone know where this one is dancing? She has not responded to my inquiry.
https://www.seeking.com/member/bb29f68d-0c9a-4cbc-bf15-1e979363c2b0
BlueFalcon123
08-03-18, 14:32
Anyone know where this one is dancing? She has not responded to my inquiry.
https://www.seeking.com/member/bb29f68d-0c9a-4cbc-bf15-1e979363c2b0I don't know where. But she quoted me 5 bills before those panties hit the floor.
FarFarAway
08-03-18, 17:40
I haven't had much luck finding sustaining SBs on the site lately. I have had several one-and-dones. I started going back to girls I was seeing last summer, multiple times, but no contact for many months. Much to my pleasant surprise, two were receptive, I will re-M&G with them next week. One a mid-20's volleyball player, another a 21 YO honor student (1/3 my age), both submissive. Anyone have similar experience w / retreads?
FarFarAway
08-03-18, 17:45
I still think the number of truly wealthy guys on SA is infinitely small. If a wealthy guy is that concerned with discretion he'll use one of the many very well established escort agency whose whole reason for being is supplying 9's and 10's for big bucks or something like striper bars. And that bartender at the restaurant, the thousand (or two) a pop she gets is a bit to drop her panties and very much so to keep her mouth shut. We're not talking about dating here but a sugar scenario.
All this to say that when all these girls on SA claim they're used to getting big big bucks I know it's a lie every single time.There is another discriminating feature, married or not. If I were single and had all my current assets, I would be like a kid in a candy store, I would have a grand old time w / SBs. Some have said you can get pretty much anyone on the site for 500 per. However, w / a SO, there are many limitations, including hiding the $ drain. Splitting up isn't a solution because the assets aren't what they were. And, I am confident an escort agency could not provide me what I have gotten from some amazing SBs I have been lucky enough to meet and am still friendly with.
I still think the number of truly wealthy guys on SA is infinitely small. If a wealthy guy is that concerned with discretion he'll use one of the many very well established escort agency whose whole reason for being is supplying 9's and 10's for big bucks or something like striper bars. And that bartender at the restaurant, the thousand (or two) a pop she gets is a bit to drop her panties and very much so to keep her mouth shut. We're not talking about dating here but a sugar scenario.
All this to say that when all these girls on SA claim they're used to getting big big bucks I know it's a lie every single time.I think this is spot on. If I'm wealthy, and I'm not, I'm going with a very well established high end escort service that is going to guarantee me nothing but 10's who are going to make me believe they are in love with me. I'm certainly not on SA. I'm not convinced that any of the "10's" that are on the site are real women. The two that sought me out were scammers. I may be wrong, but one man's 5 is another man's 10!
Well, I didn't go to FC with her. Just had a dinner with her. She told me this just 3 hrs before we planned to hit the FC first time.
Dr. S.
Whether or not I believed her would depend on how she told me. If she told me in a manner that demonstrated some concern for me since she would have potentially exposed me to the STD, then I'd be more likely to believe her. If she didn't, I'd ask to see the test results "before contacting my doctor" - her response (or lack of it) to that request would confirm the suspicions, or not.
JustLonely
08-03-18, 22:11
I don't know where. But she quoted me 5 bills before those panties hit the floor.Yikes! I think I will join RVA Spider and wait on the coeds comings in a few weeks. Need to get to them before they start reading the SA Blog for Women and get GPS.
Yikes! I think I will join RVA Spider and wait on the coeds comings in a few weeks. Need to get to them before they start reading the SA Blog for Women and get GPS.I'm talking to one now who I thought I was going to meet yesterday. She bailed and now wants me to pay her $50 before we meet at Starbucks. Hot blonde college student. She said she has several guys from the site paying her just to text. I told her that she's a lucky girl. I've got plenty of cash set aside to spend on good times but I'm not overpaying even though it seems like there are plenty of SDs driving up the prices. Two more weeks and we should see the girls coming back to school.
I'm talking to one now who I thought I was going to meet yesterday. She bailed and now wants me to pay her $50 before we meet at Starbucks. Hot blonde college student. She said she has several guys from the site paying her just to text. I told her that she's a lucky girl. I've got plenty of cash set aside to spend on good times but I'm not overpaying even though it seems like there are plenty of SDs driving up the prices. Two more weeks and we should see the girls coming back to school.I've had several "gals" want to share pictures and videos for cash but now they expect cash for texting? Good grief.
I'm curious though brother mongers, has the site changed a bit this summer or is this just a normal thing that happens this time of year? I mean, when I get the SBs to texting, we quickly come to an agreement on moving forward or cutting bait. But for the past month, I just seem to be attracting SBs that just want to text every once in awhile but can't seem to commit to meeting. I hope this is an anomaly because I'm getting pissed at all the time wasters.
I've had several "gals" want to share pictures and videos for cash but now they expect cash for texting? Good grief.
I'm curious though brother mongers, has the site changed a bit this summer or is this just a normal thing that happens this time of year? I mean, when I get the SBs to texting, we quickly come to an agreement on moving forward or cutting bait. But for the past month, I just seem to be attracting SBs that just want to text every once in awhile but can't seem to commit to meeting. I hope this is an anomaly because I'm getting pissed at all the time wasters.I've found the same thing since the start of summer but I wasn't on the site last year so I'm not sure if this is part of the normal cycle. I'm starting to look in Va Beach hoping that it's different there.
https://www.seeking.com/member/c39b053f-c36c-42f8-bfb9-ede580e682b8, open relationship, like hubby to watch.
JustLonely
08-05-18, 08:26
I've found the same thing since the start of summer but I wasn't on the site last year so I'm not sure if this is part of the normal cycle. I'm starting to look in Va Beach hoping that it's different there.I have had good luck in VA Beach. Although with the 2 major road projects on 64 this year, I haven't been down since the winter. Summertime traffic is too heavy and it is very time consuming to see anyone there if you are driving from Richmond.
Generally speaking I get more replies from my initial messages from women down there. My target group are waitresses over 21. A lot are working short shifts and need the extra cash and don't seem as finicky about seeing older men. Also moms in Chesapeake are a good bet. Everyone I have taken to the Amber Lantern restaurant on the the Elizabeth River for a M & G has went straight to the FC for dessert. Unfortunately with a SO back home I usually have to find someone with daytime availability. Those rare occasions when the SO goes to Roanoke to see family is when I can do the dinner dates.
It's funny how we (myself included) generally see high school girls as too young but these same girls are fair game as soon mom and dad drop them off at college 3 months later. By September, SA will be overflowing with 18 yo SBs looking for daddy; freshman girl is my favorite dessert for fall.
TomDickNHarry
08-05-18, 11:12
It's not going to workout that way 99% of the time. I have hardline rules of my own I follow and I do not divert from them, ever. Your scenario is what creates what I term, "serial meet and greeters" They go on dates and get slipped a few hundred here and there and realize it's easier them actually ever going to the FC and they just do that. NEVER and I repeat NEVER, pay a girl for a drink or dinner date. UNLESS, that is truly your thing and that is what you want. IE, you're too old or a medical condition keeps you from performing and you just want a woman's company. But suggesting you're showing good faith for the future? No offense my brother, but these girls will laugh at you as they walk out of the dinner date with your cash.I fully agree with this. There are now professional meet and greeters on there, which didn't even exist when I started on SA years ago. This creates the exact wrong incentive. I will on occasion do very small things, like a gift card ($40 or less) or $20 for gas for the true newbies where I really like them, that to me is a show of good faith but more important it's thoughtful, and if it's the kind of girl I'm looking for (sweet, responsible, eager to please) it will mean as much if not more to her than some money. If you're looking for a carrot this is much more of one than basically giving her part or all of what she would be getting for the actual FC because it shows that you're sincere and gets her thinking that there's more where that came from.
The only good news is that once this has happened to girls a few times and they make the decision to become a professional M&Ger, they'll ask upfront so you can pretty easily weed them out (which is an absolute NEXT in my book). But it's really unfortunate that people meet them early on and create that expectation in the first place, girls that might otherwise become good SBs go this route. That, along with guys who buy pics and videos, or send money electronically, have really degraded the site from what it was even 2 or 3 years ago.
One last thing which I say with 100% confidence, by the time near the end of the meal when the guy slides an envelope of unrequested cash over, the girl had long since decided if she intends to FC or even see him again. And that envelope will absolutely NEVER change a "No" to a "Yes. " If it's a No, then she walks out with his cash thinking at least I didn't waste my time, and hey I should probably start asking to be paid to let guys buy me dinner all the time. If it was Yes, then you'll eventually get her to the FC, but it won't be that night since she already got her reward. Bottom line don't let them catch the rabbit before the finish line.
My Brothers,
I can't seem to find the SA app in the Apple App Store. Does it no longer exist for IOS? I can find it in Google Play, but don't have a device that is compatible. I know just enough about computers to screw things up, so if any of you can help, you will need to explain it as if you were talking to a fourth grader!
Thanks in advance, and keep up the good work!
Scott.
My Brothers,
I can't seem to find the SA app in the Apple App Store. Does it no longer exist for IOS? I can find it in Google Play, but don't have a device that is compatible. I know just enough about computers to screw things up, so if any of you can help, you will need to explain it as if you were talking to a fourth grader!
Thanks in advance, and keep up the good work!
Scott.Apple removed the SA app (and at least one other similar one) from the app store around the time FOSTA / SESTA was enacted. Guess their lawyers felt there may have been some liability there.
You can still access it on an Apple mobile device through the web (Safari or other web browser).
FarFarAway
08-07-18, 13:54
Apple removed the SA app (and at least one other similar one) from the app store around the time FOSTA / SESTA was enacted. Guess their lawyers felt there may have been some liability there.
You can still access it on an Apple mobile device through the web (Safari or other web browser).Does a new account on the app get the introductory offer of a week at small $? Still? I can't take a month, I get too immersed, but I am traveling to Boston, would love some company over my 3 nights away from the SO.
It's funny how we (myself included) generally see high school girls as too young but these same girls are fair game as soon mom and dad drop them off at college 3 months later. By September, SA will be overflowing with 18 yo SBs looking for daddy; freshman girl is my favorite dessert for fall.We typically don't see them on SA when in legal-but-still-in-high-school-status for two reasons. Mainly, high school means they're still under their parent's roof, so dating activity is still scrutinized. Also, while still subject to the cliques of high school and the associated rumor mill, in many cases it would be their worst nightmare for the people they went to prom with, and whom they plan to see at their 20 year reunion, to know they are banging a guy in his 50's, at least in their hometown.
Once they leave the nest for college, their entire perspective on this changes -- they are set free in a new town where they don't know as many people, and their mindset has also shifted from dependency on parents to exploring the other side of life -- those two factors form a beautiful situation. After all, isn't the whole reason mom and dad are paying tuition to help her build independence? I'm always happy to help with that. LOL.
The clique and rumor-fear issue sometimes follows them to college. I've had some that proudly introduced me to their high school friends as their date, yet others who will tell me they want to avoid going out to hot spots on on certain nights because it's college night and her friends will see her and know what's up. It's all good to me.
The clique and rumor-fear issue sometimes follows them to college. I've had some that proudly introduced me to their high school friends as their date, yet others who will tell me they want to avoid going out to hot spots on on certain nights because it's college night and her friends will see her and know what's up.I often wonder if many girls announce "platonic only" or "not looking for sex" as a way to save face if someone they know discovers them on the site. I have to think that 99% of the women on SA know the deal that is SA, and what is generally expected in a sugar arrangement.
For example, if one of their friends sees them on SA, and the profile says "platonic only", it looks like they're such an attractive catch that men will pay just to have dinner with them and it offers plausible deniability on the question of prostitution. It can also help program their rationalization hamster for "I wasn't actually LOOKING for sex, so I'm not a prostitute, it just HAAAPPPENED!
https://www.eros.com/virginia/files/8120388.htm?cat=1
This one used to be in Richmond, banged her bareback 3 or 4 times, last time I met her she took advantage of my trust in her and got $$$ for rent said she was running behind and never got anything from it.
Now she is on Eros turned into a pro.
Really hot girl loves to watch porn during.
TomDickNHarry
08-08-18, 18:09
I often wonder if many girls announce "platonic only" or "not looking for sex" as a way to save face if someone they know discovers them on the site. I have to think that 99% of the women on SA know the deal that is SA, and what is generally expected in a sugar arrangement.
For example, if one of their friends sees them on SA, and the profile says "platonic only", it looks like they're such an attractive catch that men will pay just to have dinner with them and it offers plausible deniability on the question of prostitution. It can also help program their rationalization hamster for "I wasn't actually LOOKING for sex, so I'm not a prostitute, it just HAAAPPPENED!I've absolutely converted some of the "platonic only" profiles into the FC, but what I heard from each of them is that it was in the profile only as a way to weed out creeps. Though I didn't hear it from any of those gals, no question your theory could be another reason someone puts up a profile of that type despite being open to an intimate situation.
Have to say though, unfortunately there has been a major change in the last year or two in that there are large numbers of girls who believe that platonic is feasible and so platonic only has become meaning truly platonic, in like 80% of these profiles. SA has really pushed the platonic thing in its marketing to draw more girls (more girls of any type gets more guys who pay) but even more of the shift is that there are clearly guys out there paying for platonic meets, at least the newbies before they figure out they're being taken for a ride. Now while I still think an actual ONGOING platonic situation is a virtual unicorn, what definitely does exist in larger numbers than before is the professional M&Ger. Guys have started foolishly paying for the pleasure of buying dinner for these girls, not only when requested but even nonrequested, and so many of these girls have come to realize you can make good money just doing that. As a result you even have profiles that don't say "platonic only" who really are also just trying to get free dinners and donations for nothing. Met one this weekend clearly up to that.
So I wouldn't necessarily completely dismiss a profile that says platonic only, but unlike the past unless I'm really drawn to it for some reason I won't bother because it's seldom anymore do they not actually mean it.
I often wonder if many girls announce "platonic only" or "not looking for sex" as a way to save face if someone they know discovers them on the site. I have to think that 99% of the women on SA know the deal that is SA, and what is generally expected in a sugar arrangement.
For example, if one of their friends sees them on SA, and the profile says "platonic only", it looks like they're such an attractive catch that men will pay just to have dinner with them and it offers plausible deniability on the question of prostitution. It can also help program their rationalization hamster for "I wasn't actually LOOKING for sex, so I'm not a prostitute, it just HAAAPPPENED!Yes, that's it exactly. It gives them an out if someone spots them. It also gives them extra ammo if a guy they don't like presses them for sex and they don't want to (they can say "well I put in my profile that's not what I'm looking for").
Women learn at a very young age to employ any tactic available to preempt any suspicion or rumor of promiscuity, even if not all of them choose to use those tactics.
However, I learned at a very early age that ALL women, regardless of how hot, or what age, what level of sexual experience or what status in life are fuck-able if you can find the right buttons to push when pouring on the charm.
So is she worth the 500?.
https://www.eros.com/virginia/files/8120388.htm?cat=1
This one used to be in Richmond, banged her bareback 3 or 4 times, last time I met her she took advantage of my trust in her and got $$$ for rent said she was running behind and never got anything from it.
Now she is on Eros turned into a pro.
Really hot girl loves to watch porn during.
In my experience some will use the platonic-only as a cover for when they get found out but for many (the majority?) they actually mean it. For those that mean it I think it stems from a lack of life experience where they truly believe that they are special and that a mature guy with his life together would pay her to sit there and eat a fancy dinner. Also, it costs them nothing to join the site so what do they have to loose by going fishing in a pond with no fish? Most men will totally ignore them and they'll get a handful of messages but in the end they'll leave the site after a few weeks empty-handed.
As a guy it costs you nothing to message "platonic-only" but the odds of a payoff are very low.
I often wonder if many girls announce "platonic only" or "not looking for sex" as a way to save face if someone they know discovers them on the site. I have to think that 99% of the women on SA know the deal that is SA, and what is generally expected in a sugar arrangement.
For example, if one of their friends sees them on SA, and the profile says "platonic only", it looks like they're such an attractive catch that men will pay just to have dinner with them and it offers plausible deniability on the question of prostitution. It can also help program their rationalization hamster for "I wasn't actually LOOKING for sex, so I'm not a prostitute, it just HAAAPPPENED!
I have never seen this girl nor experienced her in person but I can positively tell you that no, she is not worth 500/ hr. There are maybe 10 girls in the country who are worth that but a girl that scams guys is absolutely not one of them. You're welcome.
So is she worth the 500?.
In my experience some will use the platonic-only as a cover for when they get found out but for many (the majority?) they actually mean it. For those that mean it I think it stems from a lack of life experience where they truly believe that they are special and that a mature guy with his life together would pay her to sit there and eat a fancy dinner. Also, it costs them nothing to join the site so what do they have to loose by going fishing in a pond with no fish? Most men will totally ignore them and they'll get a handful of messages but in the end they'll leave the site after a few weeks empty-handed.
As a guy it costs you nothing to message "platonic-only" but the odds of a payoff are very low.Am I wrong? I thought that SA used to delete profiles of women who wanted online only. Now it is a lifestyle choice from the drop down menu. When did that happen. I am increasingly seeing profiles that say online only. That is also going to mislead people.
Bam.
Zcochran00
08-09-18, 20:14
Am I wrong? I thought that SA used to delete profiles of women who wanted online only. Now it is a lifestyle choice from the drop down menu. When did that happen. I am increasingly seeing profiles that say online only. That is also going to mislead people.
Bam.I'm sure part of that is SA trying to pivot a bit to protect themselves. I suppose it's also kind of like the way people change the meaning of words over time. If the dictionary says a word means "X", but everyone uses it as if it means "why", what does it actually mean? If lots of people say "arrangements" can be platonic-only, then it's a mostly valid way to use the term. (Doesn't mean I like or agree with the usage, of course.).
Hey all,
Is anyone else noticing an increase of 'older' women (by older I mean 30's and above) on SA treating this as a traditional dating site? My usual demographic is college age girls, but while waiting for the fall season to begin I've recently contacted (or been contacted by) several hot milfs and the last three I've met in as many weeks after a coffee and a little witty banter they have all led straight to the FC with Zero financial expectations. They have jobs and don't want / need the money, they either see it as Tinder (FWB) or Match (relationship) with an established guy.
Has it always been this way or did I just luck into a string of horny established milfs on SA? I'm still after the younger girls BTW haha.
Yaya.
Am I wrong? I thought that SA used to delete profiles of women who wanted online only. Now it is a lifestyle choice from the drop down menu. That's weird, because it's still there as one of the options you can report a profile for (see attached).
I report girls for that whenever I see it mentioned in their profile.
If lots of people say "arrangements" can be platonic-only, then it's a mostly valid way to use the term.Speaking of that, did anyone else noticed the site's hostname has changed from seekingarrangement.com to just seeking.com, and the logo at the top of the pages now just says "Seeking" also? They must've decided the word "arrangement" exposed them to legal risk.
I bet they're still paying AdWords for the term "seeking arrangement", though.
Member #6951
08-10-18, 08:56
Hey all,
Is anyone else noticing an increase of 'older' women (by older I mean 30's and above) on SA treating this as a traditional dating site? My usual demographic is college age girls, but while waiting for the fall season to begin I've recently contacted (or been contacted by) several hot milfs and the last three I've met in as many weeks after a coffee and a little witty banter they have all led straight to the FC with Zero financial expectations. They have jobs and don't want / need the money, they either see it as Tinder (FWB) or Match (relationship) with an established guy.
Has it always been this way or did I just luck into a string of horny established milfs on SA? I'm still after the younger girls BTW haha.
Yaya.There has always been this subset in varying ages, and it could pick up if it morphs to a more traditional dating site. Just remember: you aren't paying for them to come. You're paying for them to leave.
Zcochran00
08-10-18, 10:40
Speaking of that, did anyone else noticed the site's hostname has changed from seekingarrangement.com to just seeking.com, and the logo at the top of the pages now just says "Seeking" also? They must've decided the word "arrangement" exposed them to legal risk.
I bet they're still paying AdWords for the term "seeking arrangement", though.Yep, and the tagline is now "Dating on Your Terms" or something like that.
BlueFalcon123
08-10-18, 11:11
I recently reconnected with an SB. I guess I'm on her "Good" list. Chatting with her, we agree to $ For B. B. Fun at her place. Late 20's slim body. She has a roommate that wanted to watch. Fine with me! When we got together the next day, roommate is a bit older but still pretty. I decided to watch them first. Haha. Hot, hot, hot. I got the still bang my SB, but not the roommate. Daty, Mish, doggie. I still got to full access to roam the roommates body with my hands. It's a sight to have two gals go at it and jump in. Nothing will top this value.
Hey all,
Is anyone else noticing an increase of 'older' women (by older I mean 30's and above) on SA treating this as a traditional dating site? My usual demographic is college age girls, but while waiting for the fall season to begin I've recently contacted (or been contacted by) several hot milfs and the last three I've met in as many weeks after a coffee and a little witty banter they have all led straight to the FC with Zero financial expectations. They have jobs and don't want / need the money, they either see it as Tinder (FWB) or Match (relationship) with an established guy.
Has it always been this way or did I just luck into a string of horny established milfs on SA? I'm still after the younger girls BTW haha.
Unless SA starts releasing analytic data, measuring any trend uptick (milfs or otherwise) would be difficult. Aside from maybe patterns caused by cyclical university schedules as it applies to the 18-24 age group, I suspect observations of peaks and valleys are anecdotal, depend on what city you're in, and that mileage would vary greatly depending on who you ask. Also those of us who travel & play in multiple cities, we may not notice as many peaks and valleys as someone more focused on a specific city or area -- rather our perceptions of observable trends get distributed over a larger space.
Speaking overall, on SA there's never been a shortage of 30+ types in search of casual dating, or not so casual dating (relationships), often who already have a nice job, and while they are more attracted to successful men than deadbeats (duh), have no intention of seeking financial help from an SD. If I didn't have my SO, I would banging these like it was a factory assembly line. The observation I've made though is that after about 26-27 years old, they are a little too focused on the "boyfriend" aspect for my tastes, and that's one reason I prefer booking M&Gs with the younger crowd. Over 25+ they seem to get a little too curious about who I am as a person, and generally too close for comfort, considering my current LTR is important to me.
Does a new account on the app get the introductory offer of a week at small $? Still? I can't take a month, I get too immersed, but I am traveling to Boston, would love some company over my 3 nights away from the SO.Nope. Its one flat monthly price that they want to set up as a recurring charge. I was a huge fan of the 2-week price in the old iPhone app and also found it very easy to renew using iTunes gift cards loaded to a dummy iTunes account. Now full price and a real credit card are the only option, although some claim that the Vanilla Visa gift cards now work so I suppose one anonymous option remains.
Speaking of that, did anyone else noticed the site's hostname has changed from seekingarrangement.com to just seeking.com, and the logo at the top of the pages now just says "Seeking" also? They must've decided the word "arrangement" exposed them to legal risk.I just logged in and got a pop-up notice about how they've combined the "lifestyle expectation" figures they used to publish (open, minimal, practical, etc.) into the "tag system." However, now, the tag system doesn't include "sugar daddy" or "sugar baby", and any and all references to, or that imply a sugar lifestyle have been removed.
I predict seeking.com devolves into a standard dating site for girls looking for rich guys, rather than girls looking for a true sugar relationship where both parties trade the sugar they have for the sugar they're looking for.
It will be interesting to see if the site begins banning (or not approving) members for wording in their profiles that implies an openness to "generous behavior" or "offering support" or "accepting support and mentor-ship" and the like. It would make sense that they will do this eventually, as they're obviously making changes to accommodate FOSTA / SESTA.
If they continue on this path, it will become increasingly difficult or impossible for them to justify their exorbitant monthly fees. I think it's beginning already with the shift to recurring billing -- they're obviously attempting to make up for lost revenue by relying on those of us who forget or are too lazy to cancel billing once we've gotten a bunch of contact info to set up M&Gs.
They should just move the site offshore, as one other esteemed webmaster we all know has done.
I just logged in and got a pop-up notice about how they've combined the "lifestyle expectation" figures they used to publish (open, minimal, practical, etc.) into the "tag system." However, now, the tag system doesn't include "sugar daddy" or "sugar baby", and any and all references to, or that imply a sugar lifestyle have been removed.
I predict seeking.com devolves into a standard dating site for girls looking for rich guys, rather than girls looking for a true sugar relationship where both parties trade the sugar they have for the sugar they're looking for.
It will be interesting to see if the site begins banning (or not approving) members for wording in their profiles that implies an openness to "generous behavior" or "offering support" or "accepting support and mentor-ship" and the like. It would make sense that they will do this eventually, as they're obviously making changes to accommodate FOSTA / SESTA.
If they continue on this path, it will become increasingly difficult or impossible for them to justify their exorbitant monthly fees. I think it's beginning already with the shift to recurring billing -- they're obviously attempting to make up for lost revenue by relying on those of us who forget or are too lazy to cancel billing once we've gotten a bunch of contact info to set up M&Gs.
The changes may not be a bad thing for us Splenda Daddies, since it may tilt a few things in our favor. It puts a big squeeze on the scourge of ruthless pro's / UTR's, and it gives us a little more plausible deniability "hey I'm just here for the dating, the benefits that can with that you'll just have to find out". The little ladies will adapt. The smarter ones, anyway. The more money hungry among them will have to walk on eggshells now or face exile. The rest can leap back into the shadows and sewers from whence they came.
My mission hasn't changed: to empty my balls into as many greedy 18-25 why / o's as I can until my legs collapse, in the shortest amount of time and lowest possible cost.
Those guys are dreaming, sugar babies are hookers and sugar daddies are johns. The ads on "seeking" are no different than BP. The chicks won't fuck unless they get paid so the johns pay. The cops are already running stings.
A2
No cash no sax if you pay is no real date if you are lucky or really smart and you have good talk skills you can have puss for lower price with unlimited time but for the 99.9% of us no money no honey
The changes may not be a bad thing for us Splenda Daddies, since it may tilt a few things in our favor. It puts a big squeeze on the scourge of ruthless pro's / UTR's, and it gives us a little more plausible deniability "hey I'm just here for the dating, the benefits that can with that you'll just have to find out". The little ladies will adapt. The smarter ones, anyway. The more money hungry among them will have to walk on eggshells now or face exile. The rest can leap back into the shadows and sewers from whence they came.
My mission hasn't changed: to empty my balls into as many greedy 18-25 why / o's as I can until my legs collapse, in the shortest amount of time and lowest possible cost.
Those guys are dreaming, sugar babies are hookers and sugar daddies are johns. The ads on "seeking" are no different than BP. The chicks won't fuck unless they get paid so the johns pay. The cops are already running stings.
A2.
Those guys are dreaming, sugar babies are hookers and sugar daddies are johns. The ads on "seeking" are no different than BP. The chicks won't fuck unless they get paid so the johns pay. The cops are already running stings.
A2Completely agree. This is even more true following the shutdown of other sites. One can gloss it over with "game" or whatever, but you're paying them to fuck. They are hookers.
CrazySpice
08-12-18, 12:24
Been receiving messages from her. Considering to schedule a date. Any experience to share? Feel free to PM.
https://www.seeking.com/member/7e251f78-3391-4a8b-ae56-47cbab664b0b
Kogal_lover
08-12-18, 23:28
The cops are already running stings.
A2For those with insight, anything particular on how to identify and avoid these profiles on SA?
The cops are already running stings.
A2
For those with insight, anything particular on how to identify and avoid these profiles on SA?Are you guys 13 years old or something?
It's pretty damn clear. The law says that talking (just talking) about money for sex acts is soliciting of prostitution and is a crime. Therefore, and please pay attention here, do not discuss money for sex acts. Never-ever. For *any* reason with any individuals. I know some of you dumb fucks will still do it but really, it's that simple. Now, was that hard?
CantWinLosin
08-13-18, 11:09
They should just move the site offshore, as one other esteemed webmaster we all know has done.Moving the site (I. E. The servers the site resides on) isn't enough. Ownership and operations must be offshore, in a place that either doesn't have reciprocation with the US on LE matters or that won't enforce crap that they don't believe in. US LE is going after the owner / operators, as they don't just want to shut down the site, they want the people they see as lawbreakers in jail.
For example, this site didn't just move offshore, it got sold lock, stock and barrel to a non-US entity in a country where US LE can't really touch (or at least, isn't likely to go to the effort of extracting the new owner over non-national-security matters.) That new owner probably better not try to travel to the US ever again. There's also probably some risk for any of the admins that are in the US, tho' maybe not much since they're not really running the show, just employees or volunteers.
The guy that owns SA is a US citizen and resident that's making money hand over fist from the site; he's highly unlikely to either sell the goose laying the golden eggs, or move himself to one of those few places that would protect him from US LE. His only options are to either clean up the site as much as possible relative to the new laws and hope LE doesn't come after him, or go out of business.
Not for 5 $ she is hot 3 $ is well wort it.
So is she worth the 500?.
Was looking to set up a M&G this week and seemed promising until this:
"freebird10992 about 18 hours ago.
I'm sadden by the event which has taken place in my life for the past 2 months, I quit my job because of sexual harassment and my mom has been sick for a while I had an emergency to visit her in California and I'm stuck here with no money for return ticket, Spent all I had to get her better, She's stable now thank God! I'm Committed to please you in the ways, you can never forget, If you can support me and help me through this tiring times and most of all trust me through the process.
I don't ever want you to doubt me for any reason because I will never let you down.
Janet.
Told her to enjoy California!
Was looking to set up a M&G this week and seemed promising until this:
"freebird10992 about 18 hours ago.
I'm sadden by the event which has taken place in my life for the past 2 months, I quit my job because of sexual harassment and my mom has been sick for a while I had an emergency to visit her in California and I'm stuck here with no money for return ticket, Spent all I had to get her better, She's stable now thank God! I'm Committed to please you in the ways, you can never forget, If you can support me and help me through this tiring times and most of all trust me through the process.
I don't ever want you to doubt me for any reason because I will never let you down.
Janet.
Told her to enjoy California!I told her the same thing. I'm sure her profile will be gone in a day or two.
I been on chase of this one I know her from Facebook she was asking for 250 for date then she asking for 1. 5 bens now she is asking real money I assume looking for 1 or 2 k for date but who knows what kind of date this oh is from Powhotan very hostile bittch she is like give the money or ill kill you poor bitchhes living in their own planet.
CrazySpice
08-16-18, 20:11
She lives in abandon neighborhood of Powhatan. 250 was date but it was blow and go. Completely rip off.
I been on chase of this one I know her from Facebook she was asking for 250 for date then she asking for 1. 5 bens now she is asking real money I assume looking for 1 or 2 k for date but who knows what kind of date this oh is from Powhotan very hostile bittch she is like give the money or ill kill you poor bitchhes living in their own planet.
Just remember that she was asking for 250 now she looking for high end donations 1 k no less
She lives in abandon neighborhood of Powhatan. 250 was date but it was blow and go. Completely rip off..
Are guys really falling for this crap. Cause I have been on SA going on 3 years and it's never ending you see this stuff from to time. So I think. Somebody must be falling for it. Scam school 101 dying parent, need ticket, need gas, need this that or the other before meeting, run the hell away.
I told her the same thing. I'm sure her profile will be gone in a day or two..
She will be back to 250 soon, $1000 for that is you have more money than you need and don't give a crap about quality. So please nobody indulge that for $1000 , really any of them.
Just remember that she was asking for 250 now she looking for high end donations 1 k no less
..
I told her the same thing. I'm sure her profile will be gone in a day or two.I told her "why are you online looking to bang strange guys for economic security when you had a boss willing to do that and save you all this stress?
She did not give me the CA line, just that her phone was getting cut off.
Are guys really falling for this crap. Cause I have been on SA going on 3 years and it's never ending you see this stuff from to time. So I think. Somebody must be falling for it. Scam school 101 dying parent, need ticket, need gas, need this that or the other before meeting, run the hell away.
.No one is falling for it. At least no one on here. I am sure someone on SA is stupid enough to send a girl money in a different state thousands of miles away in hopes of her coming to see him. These girls wouldn't keep trying if there wasn't at least one dumb ass out there. Just like any other IRS, Nigerian prince, German heir, etc. Scam out there.
Been conversing with this one over the last couple of days, hoping to set something up. She is in Tappahannock, and says she has been on SA for awhile. Would appreciate any intel that may be out there before I make the trip.
https://www.seeking.com/member/6b437c55-0478-bdc2-3441-31d727d558b5
Thanks.
MrBobDobalina
08-17-18, 13:41
This one is a catfish. https://www.seeking.com/member/357993e6-1dea-45a8-a560-4519ae5d7466.
She's using Instagram pictures from Ashlyn Coray. Her private pics aren't hers either. Everything seemed good from the start. No indication that she was fake. Negotiated an overnight allowance and made plans to meet in downtown Charlottesville. She went silent the day of the meet. I figured she got cold feet. It wasn't until later when I found her SA username on a Pornhub user account that I figured out she was fake. She has numerous posts on Pornhub with pictures of other people. Tineye and other reverse image searches didn't return any matches on her SA profile pics but matches were returned in the pics she posted on Pornhub. I fell for it. Posting this so someone else doesn't make the same mistake I did. She has blocked me from viewing her SA profile but I can still see her active when I use another account to search Charlottesville babies. Posting this here in case any Richmond brothers search Charlottesville for potential.
So I have my profile set up in SA, but they require a pic to complete the profile, unless your a premium member.
What have others posted? I obviously can't post a real pic and don't want post one that is too young or good looking. I've been a hobbiest for ever and fell into two unreal sugars by accident over the last three years.
Appreciate guidance from wise, old sages.
DF.
I've not met her and not a 100% sure, but she looks a lot like a former Backpage girl from Tapp. Decent reviews as I recall but I didn't meet her.
Been conversing with this one over the last couple of days, hoping to set something up. She is in Tappahannock, and says she has been on SA for awhile. Would appreciate any intel that may be out there before I make the trip.
https://www.seeking.com/member/6b437c55-0478-bdc2-3441-31d727d558b5
Thanks.
I thought that was who this was. Will report back supposed to meet next week.
I've not met her and not a 100% sure, but she looks a lot like a former Backpage girl from Tapp. Decent reviews as I recall but I didn't meet her.
CantWinLosin
08-18-18, 12:51
Been conversing with this one over the last couple of days, hoping to set something up. She is in Tappahannock, and says she has been on SA for awhile. Would appreciate any intel that may be out there before I make the trip.
https://www.seeking.com/member/6b437c55-0478-bdc2-3441-31d727d558b5
Thanks.Using those same pics for years too. Last time I saw her was at least 5 or 6 years ago; she was decent, a bit pricey but a nice girl and a pretty good time. I'm betting the years between then and now haven't been all that kind to her, though.
Been conversing with this one over the last couple of days, hoping to set something up. She is in Tappahannock, and says she has been on SA for awhile. Would appreciate any intel that may be out there before I make the trip.
https://www.seeking.com/member/6b437c55-0478-bdc2-3441-31d727d558b5
Thanks.Sent you a pm.
Anyone know this girl?
She text a good game but seems really flake Lee and possibly a scammer.
https://www.seeking.com/member/5237567c-d166-45c1-9594-200e1c5ddce9
Anybody have any experience or feedback? https://www.seeking.com/member/49ed09df-6616-4171-801f-71b30a9794d6.
When a girl mentions "nothing serious" in her SA profile what does it actually mean? I was under the impression that it meant they are not willing to go to FC, so I usually skip profiles with that phrase. Now I see that phrase almost half of the profiles there, I am having second thoughts. Any thoughts? Anyone taken a girl to FC who said "nothing serious"?
Stay Safe.
Dr. S.
So I have my profile set up in SA, but they require a pic to complete the profile, unless your a premium member.
What have others posted? I obviously can't post a real pic and don't want post one that is too young or good looking. I've been a hobbiest for ever and fell into two unreal sugars by accident over the last three years.
Appreciate guidance from wise, old sages.
DF.I use a picture of me that is online everywhere (FB, Instagram, etc.) so I have some sort of plausible deniability. But I crop it so it's just from the waist to the bottom of my chin. I don't have any pictures with my face.
Anyone know this girl?
She text a good game but seems really flake Lee and possibly a scammer.
https://www.seeking.com/member/5237567c-d166-45c1-9594-200e1c5ddce9I don't know, the chick in the picture looks much older than 20. There seems to be an awful lot of this going on right now. Either that or I'm starting to be able to sniff out the fakes. I had a couple up in the DC area who had photos of what looked like legitimate "civilians" but after switching to text, they wanted to shake me down, cash for pictures and video.
When a girl mentions "nothing serious" in her SA profile what does it actually mean? I was under the impression that it meant they are not willing to go to FC, so I usually skip profiles with that phrase. Now I see that phrase almost half of the profiles there, I am having second thoughts. Any thoughts? Anyone taken a girl to FC who said "nothing serious"?
Stay Safe.
Dr. S.The only one I was able to get to respond to me and eventually meet was looking for PPM, didn't care about monthly allowance or long term, was totally DTF and then move on. Just my two cents.
I don't know, the chick in the picture looks much older than 20. There seems to be an awful lot of this going on right now. Either that or I'm starting to be able to sniff out the fakes. I had a couple up in the DC area who had photos of what looked like legitimate "civilians" but after switching to text, they wanted to shake me down, cash for pictures and video.Yep the slightly smarter scammers will use girl next door fake pics rather than obvious instagram models.
Member #6951
08-21-18, 08:22
Yep the slightly smarter scammers will use girl next door fake pics rather than obvious instagram models.As a general rule, if a profile only has one photo, I tend to skip it or at least approach with some skepticism.
When a girl mentions "nothing serious" in her SA profile what does it actually mean? I was under the impression that it meant they are not willing to go to FC, so I usually skip profiles with that phrase. Now I see that phrase almost half of the profiles there, I am having second thoughts. Any thoughts? Anyone taken a girl to FC who said "nothing serious"?
Stay Safe.
Dr. S.I don't track the correlation between phrases used and their cock consumption, but I read that and think "She; s fine with a one and done or multiple hook ups, not really hung up on not swallowing cock for cash".
So what's up with "respect" in girl's profiles?
E. g. "looking for respectful SD", "a guy that will respect me", or anything else with "respectful"?
I have a theory but I wonder if others have an insight into this.
CantWinLosin
08-21-18, 14:29
So what's up with "respect" in girl's profiles?
E. g. "looking for respectful SD", "a guy that will respect me", or anything else with "respectful"?
I have a theory but I wonder if others have an insight into this.Like all of those "trigger words", you have to read the whole profile and try to extract some context. "Respect" can mean anything from "purely platonic only" to "you won't maul me in the parking lot on the M&G. " In my experience, it most often means that you won't expect or demand a hook-up or P4 P blow-and-go for the first meeting and will treat her with the same sort of respect you'd treat a civvie you were trying to "date" in the traditional sense.
CrazySpice
08-21-18, 22:22
Had same experience. Pics are real. Had video call conversation, shown all private parts and dirty talk with fiv. At the end asked 50 for gas and then gone ghost.
Anyone know this girl?
She text a good game but seems really flake Lee and possibly a scammer.
https://www.seeking.com/member/5237567c-d166-45c1-9594-200e1c5ddce9
CrazySpice
08-21-18, 22:26
In my experience, FC is not guaranteed until she meet you in person and liked you.
When a girl mentions "nothing serious" in her SA profile what does it actually mean? I was under the impression that it meant they are not willing to go to FC, so I usually skip profiles with that phrase. Now I see that phrase almost half of the profiles there, I am having second thoughts. Any thoughts? Anyone taken a girl to FC who said "nothing serious"?
Stay Safe.
Dr. S.
CrazySpice
08-21-18, 22:33
A girl used word respectful. She was upset when I denied to help her rent bill on first M&G. She thinks I'm respectful if I would have helped her with rent. I was like, Sorry I am ok staying disrespectful on your openion LOL.
So what's up with "respect" in girl's profiles?
E. g. "looking for respectful SD", "a guy that will respect me", or anything else with "respectful"?
I have a theory but I wonder if others have an insight into this.
A girl used word respectful. She was upset when I denied to help her rent bill on first M&G. She thinks I'm respectful if I would have helped her with rent. I was like, Sorry I am ok staying disrespectful on your openion LOL.
In my opinion it's probably something along the lines of "you'll respect me by not asking for intimacy and I'll show you how much I respect you by asking for money just for being in my presence". I suspect that's what a "respectful SD" is.
FarFarAway
08-21-18, 23:56
In my experience, FC is not guaranteed until she meet you in person and liked you.It's like anything. Don't treat her like a *****. I treat mine like a date, civvy dating (which I haven't done in 20 years, since I got married). It's all negotiable. You have to have game. Everyone gets the bowl they prepare for. You'll get only cheap ****** if that's how you approach girls. I have bedded many model-quality women from the site, most in their 30's. I would never have come in sniffing range of their cooch if I took your approach. I see girl's profiles that even say "don't treat me like a ***** and I won't treat you like an ATM".
So what's up with "respect" in girl's profiles?
E. g. "looking for respectful SD", "a guy that will respect me", or anything else with "respectful"?
I have a theory but I wonder if others have an insight into this.They don't want to be treated like a hooker, while simultaneously taking cash for sex.
These "SD's" brought this on themselves. I guess some of them just missed their exwives so much they had to bring drama into what used to be the simplest thing on the planet.
I've had chicks write me DEMANDING that posts get taken down because somebody said they were a hooker and when I asked if they were paid for sex they reply "yes, but that doesn't make me a hooker."
Every single time you see some guy write "real SB" for a chick that has many clients they are deluded. SB's are hookers, SD's are johns, it's just guys needing to think they are "better." If the chick was a "real SD" she wouldn't have an ad, she would have A guy (one guy) paying the bills.
A2
Virginia Guy
08-23-18, 09:14
I turned on my premium membership again. Met up with SilkRose25. She is a tall and thick girl. Very new to the game. Did a quick car date since she needed money. Any intel on other SA girls worth the time, please PM me.
Thanks.
They don't want to be treated like a hooker, while simultaneously taking cash for sex.
These "SD's" brought this on themselves. I guess some of them just missed their exwives so much they had to bring drama into what used to be the simplest thing on the planet.
I've had chicks write me DEMANDING that posts get taken down because somebody said they were a hooker and when I asked if they were paid for sex they reply "yes, but that doesn't make me a hooker."
Every single time you see some guy write "real SB" for a chick that has many clients they are deluded. SB's are hookers, SD's are johns, it's just guys needing to think they are "better." If the chick was a "real SD" she wouldn't have an ad, she would have A guy (one guy) paying the bills.
A2Completely agree. It's a transaction-based relationship. No money / gifts = no pussy or FC. Most of the conversations happening in other cities on the board are just about how much per meet. That's a hooker. You don't need to pay 90 bucks for a site membership either. These girls are all working for shit wages in retail and service industries. Get them to talk about tight money and you can move the conversation towards paying for some pussy.
FarFarAway
08-24-18, 09:23
Completely agree. It's a transaction-based relationship. No money / gifts = no pussy or FC. Most of the conversations happening in other cities on the board are just about how much per meet. That's a hooker. You don't need to pay 90 bucks for a site membership either. These girls are all working for shit wages in retail and service industries. Get them to talk about tight money and you can move the conversation towards paying for some pussy.Please explain why I don't need a membership to SA (well, seeking, now). I don't often have a paid membership, and have tried other means to find SBs. CL is gone. I have a profile on Secret Benefits but you must pay there to message. I just joined Established Men, it's about the same as seeking. And I find profiles there that are clearly fake, like the old CL ads that had lightly masked email addresses that just spam back to you.
I have been on a site called pantydeal, where girls sell pics, vids, and mail you panties. I have messaged w / a zillion, the problem is that they don't allow searches other than by country, so you waste a lot of time and effort on people who aren't anywhere you could meet. I travel so at times I have been where they are, but I haven't ever gotten one converted to a meeting, even, much less a FC trip.
Completely agree. It's a transaction-based relationship. No money / gifts = no pussy or FC. Most of the conversations happening in other cities on the board are just about how much per meet. That's a hooker. You don't need to pay 90 bucks for a site membership either. These girls are all working for shit wages in retail and service industries. Get them to talk about tight money and you can move the conversation towards paying for some pussy.Exactly how I became an unexpected SD.
I ate at the bar at the same NC costal restaurant when ever I was in town on business. Became really friendly with the owners, managers, bartenders & waitress.
Flirted a lot with one particular waitress who would also bartender now and then. Your typical college student on the struggle bus big time. She mentioned one night she needed dog food for her Golden Retriever. I also have one so mentioned what brand we fed ours and she mentioned what she feeds hers.
I left later that night and grabbed a 40 lb bag and left it next to her car with a note, "your too nice a girl to work so hard at school & here and still have to worry about dog food. ", also with my cell.
She texted my that night when she saw it that I was so sweet. Asked if I'd be in town the next day to do coffee. I said I was busy in the morning, how about lunch.
Long story short, I didn't rush it and after a couple more platonic meetings she slapped a lip lock on me when I was giving her a hug good bye. What I found out being patient is her live in BF had some bad sexual history and even though she is a 10 across the boards, was more interested in being top of his class and getting in to Med school than on top of this gorgeous, young co-ed. Also really standard sexual fare when he did deliver.
I love that she's with him. I don't think I could continue if she was single and doing the whole Tinder thing.
From then on she's come rob see me at the hotel, 3-8 hours at a time. Everything I want, BB, Greek. OMG!
Most of these young guys don't know how to take their time and really appreciate a beautiful young lady. She is literally half my age. My favorite thing is getting outfits for her. She's even an ex Hooter's girl (lasted three weeks) and brought the uniform to play time. Cross that one off the bucket list👍.
Now two and a half years plus we are still going strong. I help her with $ but I bet if I calculated what I've gave her vs what I spend with her for time it's like $20 an hour. Many times she tells me no thanks, I'll let you know if I get in a bind. After about six months she dropped the L word.
Her BF was away for five weeks recently and we got to spend about 8 nights together & over a dozen days. Even an overnight in Myrtle Beach. So funny to be in public together when someone picks up the vibe that we're a couple not father / daughter.
So I totally agree DavidS78. There are some hidden gems out there. She told me she reached out to me originally because she was bored and sick of being hit on by young guys. That she just thought I was a nice guy but as we met she could tell I wouldn't turn her down if she made the first move.
Please no PMs for her info. Just a long entry to give some brothers hope outside of the SA / GPS girls. If I can pull it off at my age and I'm no Brad Pitt, you guys can.
I think being patient and having a long game was key. If I was aggressive early on I'd would have been like all the other older guys that hit on her because she is beautiful and has an ass like a high schooler. The yoga pants she wears at the restaurant should come with a concealed carry permit!
You know the old bull, young bull joke is right on!
I liked your story and admire your ability to get to fc w / her, but what's the joke?
Exactly how I became an unexpected SD.
I ate at the bar at the same NC costal restaurant when ever I was in town on business. Became really friendly with the owners, managers, bartenders & waitress.
Flirted a lot with one particular waitress who would also bartender now and then. Your typical college student on the struggle bus big time. She mentioned one night she needed dog food for her Golden Retriever. I also have one so mentioned what brand we fed ours and she mentioned what she feeds hers.
I left later that night and grabbed a 40 lb bag and left it next to her car with a note, "your too nice a girl to work so hard at school & here and still have to worry about dog food. ", also with my cell.
She texted my that night when she saw it that I was so sweet. Asked if I'd be in town the next day to do coffee. I said I was busy in the morning, how about lunch.
Long story short, I didn't rush it and after a couple more platonic meetings she slapped a lip lock on me when I was giving her a hug good bye. What I found out being patient is her live in BF had some bad sexual history and even though she is a 10 across the boards, was more interested in being top of his class and getting in to Med school than on top of this gorgeous, young co-ed. Also really standard sexual fare when he did deliver.
I love that she's with him. I don't think I could continue if she was single and doing the whole Tinder thing.
From then on she's come rob see me at the hotel, 3-8 hours at a time. Everything I want, BB, Greek. OMG!
Most of these young guys don't know how to take their time and really appreciate a beautiful young lady. She is literally half my age. My favorite thing is getting outfits for her. She's even an ex Hooter's girl (lasted three weeks) and brought the uniform to play time. Cross that one off the bucket list👍.
Now two and a half years plus we are still going strong. I help her with $ but I bet if I calculated what I've gave her vs what I spend with her for time it's like $20 an hour. Many times she tells me no thanks, I'll let you know if I get in a bind. After about six months she dropped the L word.
Her BF was away for five weeks recently and we got to spend about 8 nights together & over a dozen days. Even an overnight in Myrtle Beach. So funny to be in public together when someone picks up the vibe that we're a couple not father / daughter.
So I totally agree DavidS78. There are some hidden gems out there. She told me she reached out to me originally because she was bored and sick of being hit on by young guys. That she just thought I was a nice guy but as we met she could tell I wouldn't turn her down if she made the first move.
Please no PMs for her info. Just a long entry to give some brothers hope outside of the SA / GPS girls. If I can pull it off at my age and I'm no Brad Pitt, you guys can.
I think being patient and having a long game was key. If I was aggressive early on I'd would have been like all the other older guys that hit on her because she is beautiful and has an ass like a high schooler. The yoga pants she wears at the restaurant should come with a concealed carry permit!
You know the old bull, young bull joke is right on!
Anyone had contact with this one lately? Saw her a few times then went dark. Pm me if you have any contact / details. Thanks.
They don't want to be treated like a hooker, while simultaneously taking cash for sex.
These "SD's" brought this on themselves. I guess some of them just missed their exwives so much they had to bring drama into what used to be the simplest thing on the planet.
I've had chicks write me DEMANDING that posts get taken down because somebody said they were a hooker and when I asked if they were paid for sex they reply "yes, but that doesn't make me a hooker."
Every single time you see some guy write "real SB" for a chick that has many clients they are deluded. SB's are hookers, SD's are johns, it's just guys needing to think they are "better." If the chick was a "real SD" she wouldn't have an ad, she would have A guy (one guy) paying the bills.
A2These girls all want to separate themselves from "those slutty girls":
Nothing beats the time I was in bed between fucks w / one of my all time faves. She was bitching about her roommate bringing different guys home every night-she's such a ****, I just can't stand it!" meanwhile I'm paying this chicks rent $120 at a time! The only reason I didn't say something about a **** being "a ***** that fucks for free" is that at that very moment she was a super fit blonde naked in my bed with my cock in her hand. Some of you might remember her. Out the game but not forgotten.
Old bull and young bull standing on a hill looking at the cows below. Young bull says "let's run down there and fuck one"! Old bull says "let's walk down there and fuck them all".
I liked your story and admire your ability to get to fc w / her, but what's the joke?
If the chick was a "real SD" she wouldn't have an ad, she would have A guy (one guy) paying the bills.
A2If you mean a "real SB" wouldn't have an ad once she's found a SD, it's been my experience that they don't. That is, I've noticed a girl will cease to have an ad once I start taking care of her (they either delete / disable their profile or just stop signing in). I've also had numerous girls I was talking to disappear from the site, then reappear months later and message me to say they'd gotten into a sugar relationship with someone else but now that had ended.
If all SB's were fucking a never-ending parade of men, I'd expect all their accounts to be recently active. Yet in my area, only about 25% of the visible profiles on SA have been active within the last month. I'm sure not all of the 75% who've stopped signing in did so because they found one guy to take care of them, but I'm sure a considerable number of them did.
Old bull and young bull standing on a hill looking at the cows below. Young bull says "let's run down there and fuck one"! Old bull says "let's walk down there and fuck them all".Thanks Magic Rat. Bada Bing!
If you mean a "real SB" wouldn't have an ad once she's found a SD, it's been my experience that they don't. That is, I've noticed a girl will cease to have an ad once I start taking care of her (they either delete / disable their profile or just stop signing in). I've also had numerous girls I was talking to disappear from the site, then reappear months later and message me to say they'd gotten into a sugar relationship with someone else but now that had ended.
If all SB's were fucking a never-ending parade of men, I'd expect all their accounts to be recently active. Yet in my area, only about 25% of the visible profiles on SA have been active within the last month. I'm sure not all of the 75% who've stopped signing in did so because they found one guy to take care of them, but I'm sure a considerable number of them did.Yes, it was a typo, obviously I meant SB.
That may be your area but most of the guys who's posts I see here talk about SB's and UTR's that they are only fucking once. As I said, I know real SD's that have the means to support a chick and do that very thing. I also know tons of guys who could support one but work SA like backpage and there are tons of chicks doing the same.
My point was that it's prostitution I don't care how you slice it.
These girls all want to separate themselves from "those slutty girls":
Nothing beats the time I was in bed between fucks w / one of my all time faves. She was bitching about her roommate bringing different guys home every night-she's such a ****, I just can't stand it!" meanwhile I'm paying this chicks rent $120 at a time! The only reason I didn't say something about a **** being "a ***** that fucks for free" is that at that very moment she was a super fit blonde naked in my bed with my cock in her hand. Some of you might remember her. Out the game but not forgotten.Yeah I remember her. I just went out with her twice in the last two months. Couldn't get her to the FC. She is focusing on her "other" career. LOL.
If you mean a "real SB" wouldn't have an ad once she's found a SD, it's been my experience that they don't. That is, I've noticed a girl will cease to have an ad once I start taking care of her (they either delete / disable their profile or just stop signing in). I've also had numerous girls I was talking to disappear from the site, then reappear months later and message me to say they'd gotten into a sugar relationship with someone else but now that had ended.
If all SB's were fucking a never-ending parade of men, I'd expect all their accounts to be recently active. Yet in my area, only about 25% of the visible profiles on SA have been active within the last month. I'm sure not all of the 75% who've stopped signing in did so because they found one guy to take care of them, but I'm sure a considerable number of them did.The fact that they don't sign in or that they delete their profile doesn't mean they are a "one-daddy-guy". It just means they have enough interested guys to make it work without the influx of new queries. Seriously, How many guys out here talk about working the site for a month or two, working up a rotation and shutting down their profile? Same thing.
FarFarAway
08-25-18, 01:56
If you mean a "real SB" wouldn't have an ad once she's found a SD, it's been my experience that they don't. That is, I've noticed a girl will cease to have an ad once I start taking care of her (they either delete / disable their profile or just stop signing in). I've also had numerous girls I was talking to disappear from the site, then reappear months later and message me to say they'd gotten into a sugar relationship with someone else but now that had ended.
If all SB's were fucking a never-ending parade of men, I'd expect all their accounts to be recently active. Yet in my area, only about 25% of the visible profiles on SA have been active within the last month. I'm sure not all of the 75% who've stopped signing in did so because they found one guy to take care of them, but I'm sure a considerable number of them did.As some say, we each get the sugar bowl we're looking for. I have been to the FC w / 20 in the 2+ years I have been on the site. There was a reason I saw some only once. They were too escort-ish for my taste. The experience wasn't anything like 'real'. About 4 of those I saw for over a month, with many FC trips for each. They all had regular jobs, they were not seeing me to support themselves or any habit (other than their love of sex). I ended each arrangement on good terms, so I am in touch w / 3/4. None of them has been on the site since ending w / me, and each says that is so. I can't resist the site, even when I am not paid, so I see who is there, and it is true, they don't have profiles (yes, I have a dummy profile that they haven't blocked). I see other girls I have fucked still on there who I wouldn't FC again. It was a pretty cool notch in the belt to do a few girls 1/3 my age, but none of them were mature enough to become regular things.
I recently picked up again w / the 20's pro volleyball player, she just texted that she is 'craving' me, and we are back together this week. As expected, flawless body, not a hair from slender neck to toes.
These girls are gems, each in her own way, and not comparable to what you can experience w / a professional. Lotsa people here want to label them as X or why, I won't, but I can say those I am interested in are quantitatively and qualitatively different from a hooker. I have found no site other than seeking.com that you can be successful locating this type of girl.
Exactly how I became an unexpected SD.
I ate at the bar at the same NC costal restaurant when ever I was in town on business. Became really friendly with the owners, managers, bartenders & waitress.
Flirted a lot with one particular waitress who would also bartender now and then. Your typical college student on the struggle bus big time. She mentioned one night she needed dog food for her Golden Retriever. I also have one so mentioned what brand we fed ours and she mentioned what she feeds hers.
I left later that night and grabbed a 40 lb bag and left it next to her car with a note, "your too nice a girl to work so hard at school & here and still have to worry about dog food. ", also with my cell.
She texted my that night when she saw it that I was so sweet. Asked if I'd be in town the next day to do coffee. I said I was busy in the morning, how about lunch.
Long story short, I didn't rush it and after a couple more platonic meetings she slapped a lip lock on me when I was giving her a hug good bye. What I found out being patient is her live in BF had some bad sexual history and even though she is a 10 across the boards, was more interested in being top of his class and getting in to Med school than on top of this gorgeous, young co-ed. Also really standard sexual fare when he did deliver.
I love that she's with him. I don't think I could continue if she was single and doing the whole Tinder thing.
From then on she's come rob see me at the hotel, 3-8 hours at a time. Everything I want, BB, Greek. OMG!
Most of these young guys don't know how to take their time and really appreciate a beautiful young lady. She is literally half my age. My favorite thing is getting outfits for her. She's even an ex Hooter's girl (lasted three weeks) and brought the uniform to play time. Cross that one off the bucket list👍.
Now two and a half years plus we are still going strong. I help her with $ but I bet if I calculated what I've gave her vs what I spend with her for time it's like $20 an hour. Many times she tells me no thanks, I'll let you know if I get in a bind. After about six months she dropped the L word.
Her BF was away for five weeks recently and we got to spend about 8 nights together & over a dozen days. Even an overnight in Myrtle Beach. So funny to be in public together when someone picks up the vibe that we're a couple not father / daughter.
So I totally agree DavidS78. There are some hidden gems out there. She told me she reached out to me originally because she was bored and sick of being hit on by young guys. That she just thought I was a nice guy but as we met she could tell I wouldn't turn her down if she made the first move.
Please no PMs for her info. Just a long entry to give some brothers hope outside of the SA / GPS girls. If I can pull it off at my age and I'm no Brad Pitt, you guys can.
I think being patient and having a long game was key. If I was aggressive early on I'd would have been like all the other older guys that hit on her because she is beautiful and has an ass like a high schooler. The yoga pants she wears at the restaurant should come with a concealed carry permit!
You know the old bull, young bull joke is right on!People don't realize the weight of this type of approach in real life. That bag of dog food was probably one of the best investments you've ever made!
Yes, it was a typo, obviously I meant SB.
That may be your area but most of the guys who's posts I see here talk about SB's and UTR's that they are only fucking once. As I said, I know real SD's that have the means to support a chick and do that very thing. I also know tons of guys who could support one but work SA like backpage and there are tons of chicks doing the same.
My point was that it's prostitution I don't care how you slice it.I don't completely disagree, I'm just not sure that all angles of the sugaring lifestyle are so easily summarized. Without knowing the financial situation of the guys who like fucking girls only once and their motives for doing so, imagining their capacity to support one or many girls is really just guesswork.
As you said many SDs do have the financial status to support a chick, and already do (whether it's a wife or live-in girlfriend). And yes, either of those situations could be said to be prostitution, regardless of whether there is cash payment involved -- if nothing else, free rent, or any lifestyle upgrade that the female would not be able to sustain on her own income. This is all a form of "payment" or "financial support", and is therefore prostitution. Sex is being provided for financial benefit. This is fine, I've always said there's no such thing as free pussy, and we always pay for it, even if not in direct currency.
But even if an SD can support one or two chicks at a time, many of us STILL have an incessant craving variety in our sex life; in fact I could consider this craving one of my biggest personality flaws. If I ever put a dollar amount just on the time and effort I've invested into getting strange pussy throughout my lifetime, it would be a shocker of a number. But it is that quest for variety that leads me to short-term sugar dating. I don't hold onto any one for more than a few days at a time, because after a certain point the expectations on their end always seem to ramp up, and frankly after I have fucked her a dozen times it no longer qualifies as "strange pussy", and defeats the purpose of finding variety.
But that's just my situation, and situations vary. What actually takes place between the SD and SB runs the full gamut. There are SDs that pay a lot of money but never fuck the girl; there are a lot of guys who get sex without paying. There are outliers who don't believe either situation ever occurs, simply because they don't believe anyone else's experiences could possibly be different than their own. Guys with great game cannot fathom another man paying without getting laid. Guys who aren't good with women cannot fathom another man getting laid without paying for it. It's narrow-mindedness in action, and the natural temptation to compartmentalize and simplify. It is always more convenient to just apply a blanket label and believe it is that way because we said so, than it is to dissect it and truly understand the complexities of the lifestyle.
I don't doubt for a minute there are lots of guys with modest throwing away their last bit of expendable income on escorts / UTRs, its just like any other addiction for them; I just know that they could not possibly be identified from their posts in this thread without having copies of their financial statements.
When a girl mentions "nothing serious" in her SA profile what does it actually mean? I was under the impression that it meant they are not willing to go to FC, so I usually skip profiles with that phrase. Now I see that phrase almost half of the profiles there, I am having second thoughts. Any thoughts? Anyone taken a girl to FC who said "nothing serious"?
Stay Safe.
Dr. S.Hey Doc. I always read "nothing serious" to mean that they don't want a committed relationship of any sort, that is, no exclusivity, she can have a BF, she can have multiple SD's, the relationship isn't the huge time commitment that dating is, but more of an occasional FB / FWB situation. So I always saw "nothing serious" as a good thing.
Maybe I'm just being hopeful. Who knows what goes on in the girl's heads anyway? .
Kwag.
So what's up with "respect" in girl's profiles?I see the term "respect" meaning anything from " I want you to be a classy guy and treat me like a friend / human being rather than a piece of ass" to "I want to be fully in control of the situation, so you should be happy with my delay tactics and we will fuck only IF and / or WHEN I say we do, and it's at my entire discretion, but you should be plenty pleased to provide me with my full allowance every time we meet up anyway. ".
It's confusing.
Zcochran00
08-25-18, 13:16
This week I had a new prospect SB who expressed interest in meeting, but I'm mostly free evenings and she works evenings at a restaurant. I've seen some people in this thread suggest "day booking" hotel rooms, but none of the day booking sites I looked at had any listings at all in my area. She couldn't host because she's in a shared house with roommates, and I obviously wasn't going to have her over to my place for privacy reasons.
I had a bit of a brainstorm: I could get a room Friday night with a checkout time of noon Saturday, and we could meet up Saturday morning. That worked for her, so we planned on it and I went ahead and booked a room.
I then realized that if I was going to have the room Friday night anyway, I might as well get some extra use out of it There was a girl who had contacted me originally a couple weeks ago and just said "hi", and I'd responded with my usual "what are you looking for?" question. She finally responded to me yesterday, and when I said I was looking to meet and play, she immediately said she was interested. Not exactly my type, but figured I might as well see how it went. So, I told her I could meet that evening, and she was up for it.
So, I wound up meeting the second girl Friday evening, went home and went to bed, and went back there this morning to meet the first girl, both in the same room. Hurray for efficient use of resources!
So, I wound up meeting the second girl Friday evening, went home and went to bed, and went back there this morning to meet the first girl, both in the same room. Hurray for efficient use of resources!Due to being married, I can't ever do an overnight playdate on my home field.
So my favorite SB would come out from RVA for an afternoon of banging, stay over, and I see her the next morning after the gym and before check out time. Or, like you, like up two differrent girls for AM / PM.
Just have to remember to tidy up after your PM fun if you are swapping out SBs so they don't see the cum stained towels and sheets and some blonde hairs in the bathroom.
Been messaging and texting this one and she gave me a UTR vibe.
Finally met up with her when she came to CVille. Super pretty face, amazing rack, not quite as toned as pictured, but great tan and legs.
Carried her own magnums, so definitley UTR.
Good fun, but I've had better for less unless you can see her often as is her preference. Then value increases dramatically.
https://www.seeking.com/member/6b0ba124-3dea-4a24-bf9d-ec53b93ac1af
Yeah, I agree with your interpretation. Started messaging girls with "Nothing serious" in profile. I had dinner with one of such girls I messaged (19 yr college sophamore) yesterday. She is cute but little bigger than I expected and her photos led me to believe. I picked her up from her dorm. She started flirting with me, and ready to head to FC or do a car date right after dinner. I took a rain check (yeah, I am picky! I have few others in the works at the moment, so making the decision this weekend.
Stay Safe.
Dr. S.
Hey Doc. I always read "nothing serious" to mean that they don't want a committed relationship of any sort, that is, no exclusivity, she can have a BF, she can have multiple SD's, the relationship isn't the huge time commitment that dating is, but more of an occasional FB / FWB situation. So I always saw "nothing serious" as a good thing.
Maybe I'm just being hopeful. Who knows what goes on in the girl's heads anyway? .
Kwag.
Yeah, I agree with your interpretation. Started messaging girls with "Nothing serious" in profile. I had dinner with one of such girls I messaged (19 yr college sophamore) yesterday. She is cute but little bigger than I expected and her photos led me to believe. I picked her up from her dorm. She started flirting with me, and ready to head to FC or do a car date right after dinner. I took a rain check (yeah, I am picky! I have few others in the works at the moment, so making the decision this weekend.
Stay Safe.
Dr. S.I'm shocked you turned down a 19 yo pussy. I have always thought that you only have time to get so much pussy and any missed opportunity is just a missed chance and lost forever. I have to hand it to you for your resolve but fault you for not getting it when you can.
Virginia Guy
08-27-18, 17:24
End of the month. My inbox was ringing off the hook. Hot MILF, young blondes and more. Time to pay the rent and car payments. I love the attention. Now they just have to host and life would be grand. I need to buy a townhouse for a play palace. Anyone want to share?
JustLonely
08-27-18, 18:30
Anybody tried cancelling Seeking's auto renew yet? I had a devil of a time with the old SD4 Me site trying to cancel that a few years back. That place sucked big time. I am almost to the point of not bothering with Seeking anymore. The new changes they keep doing makes it less worthwhile with all the GPS and Platonic.
Al Melrose
08-27-18, 20:02
Anybody tried cancelling Seeking's auto renew yet? I had a devil of a time with the old SD4 Me site trying to cancel that a few years back. That place sucked big time. I am almost to the point of not bothering with Seeking anymore. The new changes they keep doing makes it less worthwhile with all the GPS and Platonic.You just go to settings, then payments and unclick the box. Worked for me I was not billed for a second month.
Zcochran00
08-27-18, 21:25
Anybody tried cancelling Seeking's auto renew yet? I had a devil of a time with the old SD4 Me site trying to cancel that a few years back. That place sucked big time. I am almost to the point of not bothering with Seeking anymore. The new changes they keep doing makes it less worthwhile with all the GPS and Platonic.Seems like the mobile app (not the site) still lets you do a single month of premium at a time without auto-renew.
My lifelong friend has asked me to check in on his daughter going to college in my city. I already creep her Instagram and this summer she friended me on fb from a second account that her parents are blocked from seeing. She has already begged me to take her to the mall, what I don't know is whether she is looking for a ride or a sponsor. A misunderstanding could be catastrophic but this could be awesome / terrible / FANTASTIC. Updates to come.
My lifelong friend has asked me to check in on his daughter going to college in my city. I already creep her Instagram and this summer she friended me on fb from a second account that her parents are blocked from seeing. She has already begged me to take her to the mall, what I don't know is whether she is looking for a ride or a sponsor. A misunderstanding could be catastrophic but this could be awesome / terrible / FANTASTIC. Updates to come.But they do pass her on to anonymous ***** mongers on message boards. Deets, man, deets!
LoveSmallPerky
08-28-18, 13:04
Anybody tried cancelling Seeking's auto renew yet? I had a devil of a time with the old SD4 Me site trying to cancel that a few years back. That place sucked big time. I am almost to the point of not bothering with Seeking anymore. The new changes they keep doing makes it less worthwhile with all the GPS and Platonic.These are the directions that SA gave me in reply to my inquiry about it.
To cancel your auto-renewing subscription:
1. Navigate to your Settings page by clicking on your username in the top right corner then choosing Settings from the drop-down menu that appears.
2. You will see the Payments section at the bottom left of the settings list. Here you can find the Cancel Auto-Renew option.
LoveSmallPerky
08-28-18, 13:28
My lifelong friend has asked me to check in on his daughter going to college in my city. I already creep her Instagram and this summer she friended me on fb from a second account that her parents are blocked from seeing. She has already begged me to take her to the mall, what I don't know is whether she is looking for a ride or a sponsor. A misunderstanding could be catastrophic but this could be awesome / terrible / FANTASTIC. Updates to come.It does sound like she is interested but go slow. Ask her what she is thinking about for the mall and try some vague personal questions, word them as a curious friend that can also be taken as an interested guy. You can gauge it on how she responds, be ready to explain that your just curious and want to help her succeed / be careful if she seems a bit flustered. If she is interested, she may open up to you and you can go from there. As many younger women say, don't be creepy. Showing an interest can go well but it can be a bit difficult without crossing the line before she is ready.
Seems like the mobile app (not the site) still lets you do a single month of premium at a time without auto-renew.Its easy to cancel just go to settings and switch to do not renew. When your months its up.
It does sound like she is interested but go slow. Ask her what she is thinking about for the mall and try some vague personal questions, word them as a curious friend that can also be taken as an interested guy. You can gauge it on how she responds, be ready to explain that your just curious and want to help her succeed / be careful if she seems a bit flustered. If she is interested, she may open up to you and you can go from there. As many younger women say, don't be creepy. Showing an interest can go well but it can be a bit difficult without crossing the line before she is ready.Nah,
As I was telling someone else, best case for me is she starts bringing her college girlfriends to my lake house to use the boat; drinks flowing, goodtimes being had. Hopefully one or two of them don't object to a cock 20 years their senior. And hopefully they have a good time and tell their friends.
Who's paying 2 k per date around Richmond? 18 year old who said I need to reevaluate why I'm on the site because I'm obviously not SD material for saying no to 2 k. She claims guys are paying that and more. Anybody have any luck with this one:
https://www.seeking.com/member/4a520cc6-6916-4aa6-bd6e-30a2d98bbdc7
Don't you know that all the girls get thousands just to talk to guys (no sex)? Also, every girl is unique and an original snowflake. She's better than all the other girls.
If you hand control of your wallet to a bland 18 year old You deserve whatever happens after that. She's obviously trolling for a whale of a sucker that will believe whatever nonsense she can dream up. Only you can decide if you're that sucker or not.
So to answer your original question nobody, not a single person, is paying 2 k a date. Tell her she's a terrible liar and leave at that.
P.S. just looked at her profile. Sweet jesus, she's a 3/10 at best (ugly face, meh body) and for an 18 yo she's very much below average. So according to her, what are the hot girls getting? A bazillion and a half dollars?
Who's paying 2 k per date around Richmond? 18 year old who said I need to reevaluate why I'm on the site because I'm obviously not SD material for saying no to 2 k. She claims guys are paying that and more. Anybody have any luck with this one:
https://www.seeking.com/member/4a520cc6-6916-4aa6-bd6e-30a2d98bbdc7
Madaboutmax
08-29-18, 09:56
This has been discussed before. I break it down into 3 areas:
1. How I reply?
I always reply politely that I'm sorry if I offended them and that I am not trying to tell them how much they are worth or what they may need, but only what my budget allows me to offer. I respect if that does not meet their expectations or needs and wish them well on their search.
It doesn't do any good to argue with them. It works best if girls learn reality from others. I've had them come back after a few days or weeks and start up discussions with me again because I was polite and not a creep after they've learned what their options really are.
2. Why do they think I'm cheap?
Some are just naive and believe all the hype put out by SA and on social media about large jackpots for platonic relationships. Others use it is a negotiating ploy to get you to raise your offer. Some may have had big offers that never panned out, but still belief it is their market price. I think very few actually get that on a consistent basis.
3. What do I think is reality with respect to what other SD's provide?
I don't believe there are many SDs that provide $2k per month allowance for very long to the same girl. There are some for sure, but they are either creepy, weird or getting the cream of the crop (which the girl you showed clearly is not).
I think there are a lot of guys that promise the world and deliver very little to get some and then move on. I also think there are some genuinely big spenders that get the cream of the crop, but they are rarely satisfied with one girl for long.
The biggest GPS girls I've seen are constantly on the site looking for the next SD. If they were truly worth it and could get it they would find one or two big fish SDs and stop looking.
Way more girls than guys on the site so i always remind myslef, I have numbers on my side. I'm patient and move to the next one. If she comes back, she will come back on my terms.
Who's paying 2 k per date around Richmond? 18 year old who said I need to reevaluate why I'm on the site because I'm obviously not SD material for saying no to 2 k. She claims guys are paying that and more. Anybody have any luck with this one:
https://www.seeking.com/member/4a520cc6-6916-4aa6-bd6e-30a2d98bbdc7
TomDickNHarry
08-29-18, 11:18
This has been discussed before. I break it down into 3 areas:
1. How I reply?
I always reply politely that I'm sorry if I offended them and that I am not trying to tell them how much they are worth or what they may need, but only what my budget allows me to offer. I respect if that does not meet their expectations or needs and wish them well on their search.
It doesn't do any good to argue with them. It works best if girls learn reality from others. I've had them come back after a few days or weeks and start up discussions with me again because I was polite and not a creep after they've learned what their options really are.
2. Why do they think I'm cheap?
Some are just naive and believe all the hype put out by SA and on social media about large jackpots for platonic relationships. Others use it is a negotiating ploy to get you to raise your offer. Some may have had big offers that never panned out, but still belief it is their market price. I think very few actually get that on a consistent basis.
3. What do I think is reality with respect to what other SD's provide?
I don't believe there are many SDs that provide $2k per month allowance for very long to the same girl. There are some for sure, but they are either creepy, weird or getting the cream of the crop (which the girl you showed clearly is not).
I think there are a lot of guys that promise the world and deliver very little to get some and then move on. I also think there are some genuinely big spenders that get the cream of the crop, but they are rarely satisfied with one girl for long.
The biggest GPS girls I've seen are constantly on the site looking for the next SD. If they were truly worth it and could get it they would find one or two big fish SDs and stop looking.
Way more girls than guys on the site so i always remind myslef, I have numbers on my side. I'm patient and move to the next one. If she comes back, she will come back on my terms.Masterpiece of a post. This is the money shot: "I think there are a lot of guys that promise the world and deliver very little to get some and then move on. The biggest GPS girls I've seen are constantly on the site looking for the next SD. If they were truly worth it and could get it they would find one or two big fish SDs and stop looking. ".
There are generally two broad groups I've found that will deliver some major cheese, not ongoing but for a meet or two, and I'm not even talking a grand I'm talking half a grand for a meet. The first is the guys that prey on the newbies, in order to be the first to get a new girl who shows up on the site. There are definitely a few guys in my market who specialize in this, and clearly unless the girl knocks their socks off they move on to the next newbie and if she's great I suspect they keep seeing her but walk her down. The other is the out of towner type or newbie on our end type, who will drop 4 or 5 one night on them after dinner and drinks--again it's not ongoing but if they meet someone like this early on it spoils them and they think it's the norm.
It can also work in reverse for the newbies BTW, I've heard multiple stories of them getting ripped off. There is at least one person in my market who tries to meet 18-20 newbies on their very first day on the site, particularly the naive, shy, reserved type, who are uncertain how it's supposed to work and hesitant to ask for anything, where they just have a general expectation they will be rewarded. He FC's them and then just says goodbye without providing a penny. So it can go both ways for them early on.
But I can promise you guys ponying up even 2 k a month for one girl on an ongoing basis (more than a month or two) are the equivalent of a black swan. It exists but is exceedingly rare and they could talk to 1000 guys on there w / o finding it. And when one of these girls tells you they had found it, they were likely either just led to believe by the site's marketing that it does, or they're lying. For example, have you ever met a girl on the site who admitted she's done this before and said she had this great arrangement but "the guy moved"? If I've heard it once I've heard it 1 k times. Apparently every single long term, super generous, reliable, wonderful daddy eventually moves out of town. Every single one LOL.
BlueFalcon123
08-29-18, 11:28
I rejoined SA this month to scope out the newbies starting college. I found a rare gem.
She admits, in her profile, seeking only experience SD. We get to chatting terms and getting to know each other.
I'm short, she's a total virgin and wants to be a woman before college started. Sweet girl, slim and highly intelligent. 18 yr.
Yes I checked ID. Haha!
So, she trusted me and I obliged gentleman. And it was glorious. It was a 3 hour endurance test. But she passed with flying colors. By the 2nd round, we discover standing doggie is her fav.
We are both jumping off SA and we will keep to each other for now.
It's out here bros! Having a ball in the sugar bowl!
This has been discussed before. I break it down into 3 areas:
The biggest GPS girls I've seen are constantly on the site looking for the next SD. If they were truly worth it and could get it they would find one or two big fish SDs and stop looking.
Way more girls than guys on the site so i always remind myslef, I have numbers on my side. I'm patient and move to the next one. If she comes back, she will come back on my terms.This is a great post Max and it's a good sensible approach.
However, my way of looking at it is thus: she came out of the gate lying and trying to play me. She's bullshitting you in the hope you'll go along and deliver on something that makes no sense. At this point she lost all credibility with me and it gets her an instant "never going to happen". That she comes to her senses later is completely irrelevant to me. NEXT!
Madaboutmax
08-29-18, 12:20
If she is lying, which most are, I agree.
I think some are just naive newbies that have unrealistic expectations boosted by media hype. When they see reality they either become disolutioned and disappear or adjust their expectations.
I've had it work out well a few times after a girl has had her expectations reset, but not the standard.
This is a great post Max and it's a good sensible approach.
However, my way of looking at it is thus: she came out of the gate lying and trying to play me. She's bullshitting you in the hope you'll go along and deliver on something that makes no sense. At this point she lost all credibility with me and it gets her an instant "never going to happen". That she comes to her senses later is completely irrelevant to me. NEXT!
FarFarAway
08-29-18, 12:23
This is a great post Max and it's a good sensible approach.
However, my way of looking at it is thus: she came out of the gate lying and trying to play me. She's bullshitting you in the hope you'll go along and deliver on something that makes no sense. At this point she lost all credibility with me and it gets her an instant "never going to happen". That she comes to her senses later is completely irrelevant to me. NEXT!Well, I'd just consider the psychology. The same mind that deludes itself that can get / is worth that is the mind that decides it would be a good idea to hook up w / a guy twice her age. Some of this goes w / the territory. If you are toward the transactional end of the spectrum, it's true, this type of girl will take a lot of work you don't have patience for. I am on the other end of the spectrum, don't mind cultivating girls for a while, and like the chase, figuring them out. The girl I am always looking for is the one who is truly interested in the kink of being done by a daddy type, for whatever reason. Adopted, submissive, etc. These girls should be paying me, but I've never found one that would. LOL.
My lifelong friend has asked me to check in on his daughter going to college in my city. I already creep her Instagram and this summer she friended me on fb from a second account that her parents are blocked from seeing. She has already begged me to take her to the mall, what I don't know is whether she is looking for a ride or a sponsor. A misunderstanding could be catastrophic but this could be awesome / terrible / FANTASTIC. Updates to come.I read this and was like -- seriously? I can count my combined lifelong friends (made during high school, college, or early career) that are still alive on one hand. In contrast, I lost count of how many pussies I've had my cock in a long time ago.
I'd never consider betraying a friend for pussy. Pussy is easy to come by and real friends are not.
But I can promise you guys ponying up even 2 k a month for one girl on an ongoing basis (more than a month or two) are the equivalent of a black swan. It exists but is exceedingly rare and they could talk to 1000 guys on there w / o finding it. And when one of these girls tells you they had found it, they were likely either just led to believe by the site's marketing that it does, or they're lying.I give a 2 K per month allowance and the arrangements do usually only last a few months. Like any other relationship, I think. Current one is at four months and going strong, but the one before that was about three months, and the one before that was just one month. My record was a couple of years, although I didn't find her on a sugar site.
I've found a big obstacle is what girls tell each other. E. g. One girl I met told me a guy from SA gave her roommate $2000 at the start of the semester just for talking to him on the phone. I definitely didn't believe that, but I believe she believed it. Girls want to make themselves look better by inflating the amount they tell their friends they got and deflating what they had to do for it. The same thing happens among strippers who meet guys outside of the strip club.
TomDickNHarry
08-30-18, 10:16
I give a 2 K per month allowance and the arrangements do usually only last a few months. Like any other relationship, I think. Current one is at four months and going strong, but the one before that was about three months, and the one before that was just one month. My record was a couple of years, although I didn't find her on a sugar site.
I've found a big obstacle is what girls tell each other. E. g. One girl I met told me a guy from SA gave her roommate $2000 at the start of the semester just for talking to him on the phone. I definitely didn't believe that, but I believe she believed it. Girls want to make themselves look better by inflating the amount they tell their friends they got and deflating what they had to do for it. The same thing happens among strippers who meet guys outside of the strip club.Curious what frequency you usually get for that allowance?
Ftr, not suggesting SD's like you don't exist, but you are the exception not the rule and people should keep it in mind when negotiating. The guys aggressively offering allowances, at least where I am, seem to be much more about convincing them to get to the FC a time or two, than sincere about it. What you do is at least realistic.
In terms of them embellishing for their friends, which absolutely happens, I posted the perfect example in this thread a couple of months ago. I had a M&G with a girl where it comes out after 10 minutes that she wants to be a paid social companion only, no interest in intimacy and is firm about it. I politely explained that this was going to be next to impossible and she responds that her friend has been doing it for years and been spoiled fantastically without sleeping with a single guy. Said she wasn't having much luck so far but it had only been a couple of days and because of her friend she knew it was possible. I give up convincing her as she obviously 100% believes this, and we spend the rest of lunch chatting pleasantly. Toward the end I ask if she has a pic of her friend as I was curious if I had met her. She whips out her phone, and sure enough it was a girl I had 2 or 3 times in a hotel a year ago for a very reasonable allowance which she requested. In fact, her friend and I first met for a drink for 5 minutes and then went to the FC that very same day. I just smiled to myself and said I didn't know her, but here she's telling this friend she's being paid to go to dinners and shows when she's really hitting the FC with guys after five minutes and a $4 cocktail LOL. The friend figured it out pretty quickly though because the profile was gone in under a week.
Curious what frequency you usually get for that allowance?Always twice a week. Less than that isn't enough for me, and more is too much burden on my free nights. No firm rules about time per visit, but each visit usually ends up being about three to five hours.
she responds that her friend has been doing it for years and been spoiled fantastically without sleeping with a single guy (....) sure enough it was a girl I had 2 or 3 times in a hotel a year ago for a very reasonable allowance Haha, that's hilarious. I think I'll borrow that story the next time I run across a girl with a story about her friend's SD.
TwoDirection
08-30-18, 16:38
Anybody have any experience or feedback? https://www.seeking.com/member/49ed09df-6616-4171-801f-71b30a9794d6.Overall she wasn't what I was looking for, but she's prettier and sexier than those pictures, IMO. Former swimmer, spinner body with great golden skin, really nice ass and boobs. She's a real sweetheart, too. She's not kidding about being a heavy drinker, though. That's all I'm willing to share.
https://www.seeking.com/member/17546980-4f71-4873-964e-3e1a033bba0e
Any feedback on this one before I pull the trigger?
Nothing in archives I could find.
Thanks bros!
JustLonely
08-30-18, 20:20
https://www.seeking.com/member/17546980-4f71-4873-964e-3e1a033bba0e
Any feedback on this one before I pull the trigger?
Nothing in archives I could find.
Thanks bros!She wanted 400 Too much for me.
JimXuper90
08-30-18, 20:30
My lifelong friend has asked me to check in on his daughter going to college in my city. I already creep her Instagram and this summer she friended me on fb from a second account that her parents are blocked from seeing. She has already begged me to take her to the mall, what I don't know is whether she is looking for a ride or a sponsor. A misunderstanding could be catastrophic but this could be awesome / terrible / FANTASTIC. Updates to come.No pussy worth losing lifelong friend for me. I would not do it.
https://www.seeking.com/member/17546980-4f71-4873-964e-3e1a033bba0e
Any feedback on this one before I pull the trigger?
Nothing in archives I could find.
Thanks bros!Been going back and forth for some time, sent a few sexy pics but 4 $$ is her minimum so far. The pics she sent are much better then those on the profile. If you pull the trigger do update us, I might go for it next week.
JustLonely
08-31-18, 07:02
From Stony Creek. Strictly online business in her words.
American314
08-31-18, 17:04
My lifelong friend has asked me to check in on his daughter going to college in my city. I already creep her Instagram and this summer she friended me on fb from a second account that her parents are blocked from seeing. She has already begged me to take her to the mall, what I don't know is whether she is looking for a ride or a sponsor. A misunderstanding could be catastrophic but this could be awesome / terrible / FANTASTIC. Updates to come.Yessssss you will completely enjoy the experience while it is occurring but shortly after the act when all of the endorphins wane, you will experience complete remorse for what you have done. Scenario one. He will end up discovering the tryst soon and you will have lost a "life long friend" for a few moments of pleasure. NO father would ever excuse a friend for this travesty upon his little girl! You lose! Scenario two. She keeps it to herself and you will forever be completely uncomfortable around your friend and will never be able to continue as you had in your past as you are always fearful of exposure. Even if you are never outed, your life will never be the same as your guilt and fear will consume you around these folks. You should draw the line at what your inner conscience is telling you and be the better person and friend. There are plenty of opportunities for this type of leg around without jeopardizing yourself!
PIE.
From Stony Creek. Strictly online business in her words.Report her.
JustLonely
08-31-18, 21:51
Report her."Online Only" is now an accepted form of Seeking as a tab now. Your new SA screwing up a good thing once again.
FarFarAway
08-31-18, 23:23
Yessssss you will completely enjoy the experience while it is occurring but shortly after the act when all of the endorphins wane, you will experience complete remorse for what you have done. Scenario one. He will end up discovering the tryst soon and you will have lost a "life long friend" for a few moments of pleasure. NO father would ever excuse a friend for this travesty upon his little girl! You lose! Scenario two. She keeps it to herself and you will forever be completely uncomfortable around your friend and will never be able to continue as you had in your past as you are always fearful of exposure. Even if you are never outed, your life will never be the same as your guilt and fear will consume you around these folks. You should draw the line at what your inner conscience is telling you and be the better person and friend. There are plenty of opportunities for this type of leg around without jeopardizing yourself!
PIE.BTW, isn't this the plot to 'Lolita'? Humbert is eventually driven mad by his relationship w / her.
FarFarAway
08-31-18, 23:24
"Online Only" is now an accepted form of Seeking as a tab now. Your new SA screwing up a good thing once again.It is ironic that it is both something you can select or seek and something you can report someone for. Try the report function, you'll find it there. They're a little schizo over FOSTA.
Yessssss you will completely enjoy the experience while it is occurring but shortly after the act when all of the endorphins wane, you will experience complete remorse for what you have done. Scenario one. He will end up discovering the tryst soon and you will have lost a "life long friend" for a few moments of pleasure. NO father would ever excuse a friend for this travesty upon his little girl! You lose! Scenario two. She keeps it to herself and you will forever be completely uncomfortable around your friend and will never be able to continue as you had in your past as you are always fearful of exposure. Even if you are never outed, your life will never be the same as your guilt and fear will consume you around these folks. You should draw the line at what your inner conscience is telling you and be the better person and friend. There are plenty of opportunities for this type of leg around without jeopardizing yourself!
PIE.Stay away from the daughter, you keep your friend = You win.
Tell us who she is, she gets her shopping spree = She win.
Have any of the members been successful with any ladies who mentioned that they was looking for a mentor and wasn't interested in anything sexual? I was thinking about going along with one in order to see, if they would eventually warm up with different approach.
CrazySpice
09-01-18, 19:46
Always twice a week. Less than that isn't enough for me, and more is too much burden on my free nights. No firm rules about time per visit, but each visit usually ends up being about three to five hours.
You do prepay before visits occurred? Or post pay after visits occurred? How do you determine she is trust worthy if you do prepay. In my experience a pot took 5 oo for weekly arrangement and gone silent.
CrazySpice
09-01-18, 19:48
Always twice a week. Less than that isn't enough for me, and more is too much burden on my free nights. No firm rules about time per visit, but each visit usually ends up being about three to five hours.
Haha, that's hilarious. I think I'll borrow that story the next time I run across a girl with a story about her friend's SD.You do prepay before visits occurred? Or post pay after visits occurred? How do you determine she is trust worthy if you do prepay. In my experience a pot took 5 oo for weekly arrangement and gone silent.
You do prepay before visits occurred? Or post pay after visits occurred? How do you determine she is trust worthy if you do prepay. In my experience a pot took 5 oo for weekly arrangement and gone silent.Let me get this right: you met some girl on the internet and then you gave her 500 with the assumption that you'd meet later and she would 'make it up' to you? And then as a complete shocker she ghosted you?
Some people can't be helped...
FruitNinja
09-02-18, 07:50
Have any of the members been successful with any ladies who mentioned that they was looking for a mentor and wasn't interested in anything sexual? I was thinking about going along with one in order to see, if they would eventually warm up with different approach.I suppose it's about how much time you have. Seems like a lot of work for something that is a long shot.
JustLonely
09-02-18, 09:28
I suppose it's about how much time you have. Seems like a lot of work for something that is a long shot.I agree. A waste of time. It's getting hard enough to find ones willing to go to the FC without starting the chase laps behind.
You do prepay before visits occurred? Or post pay after visits occurred? How do you determine she is trust worthy if you do prepay. In my experience a pot took 5 oo for weekly arrangement and gone silent.Neither, actually. I give money each visit, though some don't like that because it feels too much like prostitution to them. But telling (and showing) her that the money isn't conditional on sex helps. And I guarantee her the monthly total unless she misses visits. That is, if I have to miss (which never happens), I'll still give her the money, but if she misses, no money. And I tell her we'll switch to monthly prepay if I fail to live up to that, since I know I won't.
I have had two who insisted on prepay and I decided were worth the risk. I prepaid one for two weeks, and the other was for a month. Neither ghosted me, but both missed about half of the agreed number of visits. I insisted on switching to money each visit after that. In both instances, they agreed, and everything was fine from then on.
CrazySpice
09-02-18, 23:17
That's wise arrangement. In your experience she missed half of the agreed appointsments means you lost roughly half amount. On average your per visit looks like 200-250 which is roughly 50 per hour of her time. That's a good bang for bucks.
Neither, actually. I give money each visit, though some don't like that because it feels too much like prostitution to them. But telling (and showing) her that the money isn't conditional on sex helps. And I guarantee her the monthly total unless she misses visits. That is, if I have to miss (which never happens), I'll still give her the money, but if she misses, no money. And I tell her we'll switch to monthly prepay if I fail to live up to that, since I know I won't.
I have had two who insisted on prepay and I decided were worth the risk. I prepaid one for two weeks, and the other was for a month. Neither ghosted me, but both missed about half of the agreed number of visits. I insisted on switching to money each visit after that. In both instances, they agreed, and everything was fine from then on.
I have been talking to this one. Does anyone have anyone have experience with her?
https://www.seeking.com/member/b75de0dd-ef91-466e-aaa2-9063cd41022e
Madaboutmax
09-03-18, 06:49
I understand many girls don't like the transactional feel of pay per visit, but I explain it's the only fair way to start until we are both confident we want to continue and build trust. I've had a few long term arrangements that evolved into weekly or bi-weekly allowances but only after I was confident we both had a genuine connection and I could trust them.
I further explain that I've heard of girls that have dated wirh the promise of an allowance later that never happened and guys that paid upfront only to have the girl disappear. It happens on both sides.
I also wouldn't want to be obligated to repeat if either one of us didn't feel it. Its not worth it to me. I explain my goal is an ongoing arrangement. I pay an allowance per meet in line with monthly expectations based on expected number of meets without any commitment. It's like dating with the intention of marriage, you don't make that commitment before the first date. Things have to naturally evolve.
I also won't discuss specifics of an allowance before we meet and have never discussed allowance with many girls.
I just leave an allowance in their purse or pocket when the date ends. I've had a couple girls complain about the amount after the fact, but that has been the exception. I usually filter out GPS girls much earlier in the process. The interesting part, is that the ones that complained were usually the worst dates. Higher expectations rareley correlates with better experiences.
No girl that meets MY definition of an SB has ever had a problem with this approach.
Neither, actually. I give money each visit, though some don't like that because it feels too much like prostitution to them. But telling (and showing) her that the money isn't conditional on sex helps. And I guarantee her the monthly total unless she misses visits. That is, if I have to miss (which never happens), I'll still give her the money, but if she misses, no money. And I tell her we'll switch to monthly prepay if I fail to live up to that, since I know I won't.
I have had two who insisted on prepay and I decided were worth the risk. I prepaid one for two weeks, and the other was for a month. Neither ghosted me, but both missed about half of the agreed number of visits. I insisted on switching to money each visit after that. In both instances, they agreed, and everything was fine from then on.
Professor Man
09-03-18, 07:52
I have been talking to this one. Does anyone have anyone have experience with her?
https://www.seeking.com/member/b75de0dd-ef91-466e-aaa2-9063cd41022eI have. But I am relatively new to this forum and not sure of the protocol here. That is to say, I don't know how much I can say or how pm works.
JustLonely
09-03-18, 08:14
The allowance conversation comes up regularly on here. I am just going to note that this year I seem to get more asking right away what kind of arrangement I have had before. Most of those soon ask how much or what was the most I "helped" per month.
The good thing is that it opens the door for me to say that I don't discuss amounts until we meet. Since I have FWB as a tag, sometimes I tell them the money doesn't start until we get intimate. Of course that weeds out a lot right then. I don't have the time and patience to wait them out anymore.
With all the GPS, platonic and "respectful" out there, it makes it more a numbers game weeding them out. Don't get me started on pic sellers!
I use your basic strategy, however I have struggled getting it across smoothly. Ill use some of your comments if you don't mind. I have followed the Richmond board for many years. Early posts were very informative, I suggest all SD's read them. This was informative, than you!
I understand many girls don't like the transactional feel of pay per visit, but I explain it's the only fair way to start until we are both confident we want to continue and build trust. I've had a few long term arrangements that evolved into weekly or bi-weekly allowances but only after I was confident we both had a genuine connection and I could trust them.
I further explain that I've heard of girls that have dated wirh the promise of an allowance later that never happened and guys that paid upfront only to have the girl disappear. It happens on both sides.
I also wouldn't want to be obligated to repeat if either one of us didn't feel it. Its not worth it to me. I explain my goal is an ongoing arrangement. I pay an allowance per meet in line with monthly expectations based on expected number of meets without any commitment. It's like dating with the intention of marriage, you don't make that commitment before the first date. Things have to naturally evolve.
I also won't discuss specifics of an allowance before we meet and have never discussed allowance with many girls.
I just leave an allowance in their purse or pocket when the date ends. I've had a couple girls complain about the amount after the fact, but that has been the exception. I usually filter out GPS girls much earlier in the process. The interesting part, is that the ones that complained were usually the worst dates. Higher expectations rareley correlates with better experiences.
No girl that meets MY definition of an SB has ever had a problem with this approach.
Professor Man
09-03-18, 11:04
I have. But I am relatively new to this forum and not sure of the protocol here. That is to say, I don't know how much I can say or how pm works.Okay, I am replying to my own post because I just checked in with Happiness and she does not want me to give out any details. That already tells you a lot. She is not a professional and discretion is very important to her. What I can add is that I have seen her several times and we always had a great time together. I would be seeing more of her, but she lives in Richmond and I live in Charlottesville and neither one of us likes to drive much. I can also say that I was pleasantly surprised when I first met her in person. Her SA pictures do not do her justice IMHO. I thought she was much nicer looking in person. She has a very nice figure and keeps herself in shape. I will also say she has a great personality. She is very sweet and very southern and playful and very pleasant to be with. She very much does want to meet another nice man, because she does need the help (another good sign if you have some leverage there) and I am not able to provide enough (due to time, distance, and my own budget). She has always been very kind to me, even when turning down her occasional requests for extra assistance. I highly recommend her. As always, YMMV, so be nice to her if you want her to be nice to you. Good luck.
I just leave an allowance in their purse or pocket when the date ends. I've had a couple girls complain about the amount after the fact, but that has been the exception....
No girl that meets MY definition of an SB has ever had a problem with this approach.How much do you leave in her purse when no allowance figure has been set up front?
I have. But I am relatively new to this forum and not sure of the protocol here. That is to say, I don't know how much I can say or how pm works.Sent you a pm.
Madaboutmax
09-03-18, 13:12
I always tell them early on that I'm sure I'm not the biggest spender on the site, but past girls said I was a great combination of attractive, funny, emotionally supportive, financially supportive and a gentleman. I set the expectation of an all around experience and not just dollars. Girls that like my approach are comfortable when I provide 150 to 200 per date.
There are a lot of girls on SA (now S! LOL) that want the money, but are uncomfortable with being treated like a prostitute or being intimate with an older, out of shape, sloppy, rude man. They fantasize about "the most intriguing man in the world" and being treated like a princess. I cater to that fantasy.
I know many of you guys have the "women are bitches" attitude, and I thank you. It really helps make my argument very strong. Lol
How much do you leave in her purse when no allowance figure has been set up front?
CrazySpice
09-03-18, 18:05
What are acts makes girl feels like princess or queens. What a typical SD does to make SB feel like princess or queen.
I always tell them early on that I'm sure I'm not the biggest spender on the site, but past girls said I was a great combination of attractive, funny, emotionally supportive, financially supportive and a gentleman. I set the expectation of an all around experience and not just dollars. Girls that like my approach are comfortable when I provide 150 to 200 per date.
There are a lot of girls on SA (now S! LOL) that want the money, but are uncomfortable with being treated like a prostitute or being intimate with an older, out of shape, sloppy, rude man. They fantasize about "the most intriguing man in the world" and being treated like a princess. I cater to that fantasy.
I know many of you guys have the "women are bitches" attitude, and I thank you. It really helps make my argument very strong. Lol
Zcochran00
09-03-18, 20:24
I always tell them early on that I'm sure I'm not the biggest spender on the site, but past girls said I was a great combination of attractive, funny, emotionally supportive, financially supportive and a gentleman. I set the expectation of an all around experience and not just dollars. Girls that like my approach are comfortable when I provide 150 to 200 per date.
There are a lot of girls on SA (now S! LOL) that want the money, but are uncomfortable with being treated like a prostitute or being intimate with an older, out of shape, sloppy, rude man. They fantasize about "the most intriguing man in the world" and being treated like a princess. I cater to that fantasy.
I know many of you guys have the "women are bitches" attitude, and I thank you. It really helps make my argument very strong. LolSilly question: what is generally meant by "treated like a prostitute", anyway? Demands? Being given money? Language used and attitude?
My SB encounters have been similar to the times I've seen escorts, but that's because I'm also generally respectful of all of them. Some of the escort encounters do tend to be a bit more "business-like", I guess, but it's not like I'm a jerk either way. (Then again, maybe that puts me somewhat in the minority.).
And yeah, 150-200 is what I generally aim for. I've done 300 a few times, but it's been rare. Either one-time things when I was traveling, or a girl who _really_ was a lot of fun and deserved it.
Prost. Always be an open market there is no prices they can ask whatever they want the sky is the limit and there is the clients to make her dreams come true here SD posting that they give 2000 for allowance they probably transfer the money by supposedly no untraking vias because they don't take cash because they think are not hos or escorts they are spicial people that came to this world to share her companionship for as minimum 2 k with out meet up just for messing or texting out I remember this game was like having a clean lady come over to clean the house like once a week and get paid same day or in the end of the month I don't know any that you paying in advance for the whole month here this ho making her way out askong for 5 k for her service no necessity give pussy out just platonic companionship and you must be like she likes and folling her 100 rules.
TwoDirection
09-03-18, 23:22
Silly question: what is generally meant by "treated like a prostitute", anyway? Demands? Being given money? Language used and attitude?I think it's just acting like all it takes for her to have sex with you is money, and that all you want to pay for is sex.
In other words, you need to also make her like you and feel that you value her for more than just her body.
Madaboutmax
09-03-18, 23:50
What in the world are you trying to say? I don't understand your words. -. -. -. -or how you put them together.
Prost. Always be an open market there is no prices they can ask whatever they want the sky is the limit and there is the clients to make her dreams come true here SD posting that they give 2000 for allowance they probably transfer the money by supposedly no untraking vias because they don't take cash because they think are not hos or escorts they are spicial people that came to this world to share her companionship for as minimum 2 k with out meet up just for messing or texting out I remember this game was like having a clean lady come over to clean the house like once a week and get paid same day or in the end of the month I don't know any that you paying in advance for the whole month here this ho making her way out askong for 5 k for her service no necessity give pussy out just platonic companionship and you must be like she likes and folling her 100 rules.
Madaboutmax
09-03-18, 23:56
I think many girls take "Treated like a prostitute" to mean it is only a business transaction -. -. -If you have the funds, they have the goods.
I've found many girls on SA want to feel like they have a choice and want to be pursued and seduced. Many just want to be treated well and feel wanted.
Some people think SBs are no different than prostitutes. The SBs I pursue don't feel they are prostitutes at all. (They may be, but definitely don't think of themselves that way! LOL).
I think it's just acting like all it takes for her to have sex with you is money, and that all you want to pay for is sex.
In other words, you need to also make her like you and feel that you value her for more than just her body.
Al Melrose
09-04-18, 01:17
What in the world are you trying to say? I don't understand your words. -. -. -. -or how you put them together.Must have been on his phone. Us old guys suck at texting!
BookerTNelson
09-05-18, 05:21
Silly question: what is generally meant by "treated like a prostitute", anyway? Demands? Being given money? Language used and attitude?
My SB encounters have been similar to the times I've seen escorts, but that's because I'm also generally respectful of all of them. Some of the escort encounters do tend to be a bit more "business-like", I guess, but it's not like I'm a jerk either way. (Then again, maybe that puts me somewhat in the minority.).
And yeah, 150-200 is what I generally aim for. I've done 300 a few times, but it's been rare. Either one-time things when I was traveling, or a girl who _really_ was a lot of fun and deserved it.The women I've seen in the SD / SB environment felt like new age dating. We met for coffee / drinks and discussed what we were looking for and open to, after that we agreed to continue seeing each other. Once that part is out of the way we either are just meeting for drinks and then back to the hotel or just straight to the hotel. My current SB is usually an overnight thing twice a month and we fuck all night and it feels like a FWB. I help her with some odds and ends since she's a student. One of the things we talked about while out for drinks last time was how most dudes her age can't hold a conversation face to face so they only invite her out to fuck or "Netflix and chill" (Which is essentially what we are doing) but she gets to vent a little bit with me and I drop a few life "experience" gems on her while we're together. She also appreciates that I can make her cum so she's become open to sexually experimenting when with me.
With all that said, it goes back to an SB relationship being more than just showing up with a hard dick and exchanging money for an hour of sexual bliss. Honestly, my latest arrangement is working out to be about $5 per hour but she is genuinely enjoying our time together so as she puts it "I was probably going to have a FWB anyway, so why not have my fun and keep my odds and ends taken care of. Oh, and I get to actually cum every time".
Wish I found this forum last year.
Been looking to move up from ho (s) to SA since backpage crashed.
Am willing to pay more to get more but running into GPS (out of my range. And doubt have anything to offer for that price).
Or dead fish at the 2 $ range.
This one has not been on site for long time like the permanent babies that are a waster of time.
And has a interesting look. Mix or cauc and oriental.
https://www.seeking.com/member/8138bf50-311f-4dde-a4e2-959eb90e6fee
I know I am new here but not a lot of reviews in the forum, so if that is done private please PM.
Any info if can negotiate into my range or if has decent skills worth it.
I will contribute when I get going.
JustLonely
09-05-18, 09:04
Anyone care to PM thoughts on her if you have seen her? She cancelled the very minute I drove up to the meeting place. She couldn't get away from home to met up. Been down that road too many times with student SB's on here. She's just 19 unlike what her profile says. Not shy when texting and seems to be wide open for anything. Thanks.
https://www.seeking.com/member/6850ddd7-cd63-4e0a-a8a2-ddeb0eeaad39
Been going back and forth for some time, sent a few sexy pics but 4 $$ is her minimum so far. The pics she sent are much better then those on the profile. If you pull the trigger do update us, I might go for it next week.Nothing to update.
She went dark on me.
Assume had better plans for long weekend.
JustLonely
09-05-18, 12:49
Wish I found this forum last year.
Been looking to move up from ho (s) to SA since backpage crashed.
Am willing to pay more to get more but running into GPS (out of my range. And doubt have anything to offer for that price).
Or dead fish at the 2 $ range.
This one has not been on site for long time like the permanent babies that are a waster of time.
And has a interesting look. Mix or cauc and oriental.
https://www.seeking.com/member/8138bf50-311f-4dde-a4e2-959eb90e6fee
I know I am new here but not a lot of reviews in the forum, so if that is done private please PM.
Any info if can negotiate into my range or if has decent skills worth it.
I will contribute when I get going.I'm about 90 percent sure she is someone I saw 18 months ago. Same "I'm too good for you" look. If so she is cold and business like and drives a Prius. For someone new to trying Sugar Babies, I suggest you judge them by how well they reply to your messages. If she doesn't get a little flirty in a few messages between you, she probably won't be in person.
You do prepay before visits occurred? Or post pay after visits occurred? How do you determine she is trust worthy if you do prepay. In my experience a pot took 5 oo for weekly arrangement and gone silent.All depends on where you are in the lifecycle. First meetings, pay upon delivery of services. Usually as she is leaving (I have a friend in Retail who slides me a box of the Estee Lauder "Gift with PUrchase" from the beauty department -- I slide the cash inside the little carrying case and most women just love the idea of a gift with hidden cash vs sweaty wad of cash making them feel like a *****.
I have a long running arrangement with a very vague running tally. She needed some car repairs and a few medical bills over the months. So I rarely gave her any cash when we met, but was usually pre-gifting as she needed and I could afford, plus she booked and paid for hotel room so that was factored in. Have no firm idea where I stand on the tally, but I have a very happy cock and its not affecting my financial state, so I guess I'm in good shape.
I've succesfully bartered some fuck fests -- items at charity auctions are the best, though some of my clients give me freebies -- weekend in DC or NYC, spa days. Restaurants Ill never eat at. For them to use the travel prizes, they have to disclose their true identities so I can book it for them. That involves a level of trust that implies the pay off. Some I've pre-gifted and then boned them all night when I met them. Never had a "pre-paid" bail on me yet. Several like the idea of getting a treat they would never spend money on themselves, but desperately want.
Then there are "expense substitution" gifts. I don't give them cash, but they bring their cable or cell bill and after the first round, I log on and pay it off for them. My last one like this was about to lose her Comcast service -- same as I use at the office -- so I could pay it from my business account and it s a write off -- and no, I checked, there is no track back to my bank info for the SB to see.
Nothing to update.
She went dark on me.
Assume had better plans for long weekend.Said she would drive to Cville to meet me. $400 plus hotel. Not bad given the travel involved. Don't think she will ever, though.
Geechie Dan
09-05-18, 13:44
Anyone care to PM thoughts on her if you have seen her? She cancelled the very minute I drove up to the meeting place. She couldn't get away from home to met up. Been down that road too many times with student SB's on here. She's just 19 unlike what her profile says. Not shy when texting and seems to be wide open for anything. Thanks.
https://www.seeking.com/member/6850ddd7-cd63-4e0a-a8a2-ddeb0eeaad39I was texting with her just a couple days ago. Then yesterday morning she sent me a text and said she was playing with herself. I asked if I could see, and then she hit me up with the sales pitch. She sent me a link to a site where I had to pay for her videos. That's when I went dark on her. She sounded like she was all business.
Also, her profile said she was 21, after talking awhile she said she was 20, and now you're saying she's 19. Some things aren't adding up.
CantWinLosin
09-05-18, 14:03
Wish I found this forum last year.
Been looking to move up from ho (s) to SA since backpage crashed.
Am willing to pay more to get more but running into GPS (out of my range. And doubt have anything to offer for that price).
Or dead fish at the 2 $ range.
This one has not been on site for long time like the permanent babies that are a waster of time.
And has a interesting look. Mix or cauc and oriental.
https://www.seeking.com/member/8138bf50-311f-4dde-a4e2-959eb90e6fee
I know I am new here but not a lot of reviews in the forum, so if that is done private please PM.
Any info if can negotiate into my range or if has decent skills worth it.
I will contribute when I get going.She's far from a newbie; multiple profiles on SA, WYP and SB each, and they're at least 2 years old. I've tried her, several months ago; serious GPS, and a raving ***** to boot. My advice is to avoid.
Anyone care to PM thoughts on her if you have seen her? She cancelled the very minute I drove up to the meeting place. She couldn't get away from home to met up. Been down that road too many times with student SB's on here. She's just 19 unlike what her profile says. Not shy when texting and seems to be wide open for anything. Thanks.
https://www.seeking.com/member/6850ddd7-cd63-4e0a-a8a2-ddeb0eeaad39GPS alll the way, told me she gets 500 per week just for videos and pics, I told her she was a very lucky girl.
CantWinLosin
09-05-18, 14:14
Okay, I am replying to my own post because I just checked in with Happiness and she does not want me to give out any details. That already tells you a lot. She is not a professional and discretion is very important to her. What I can add is that I have seen her several times and we always had a great time together. I would be seeing more of her, but she lives in Richmond and I live in Charlottesville and neither one of us likes to drive much. I can also say that I was pleasantly surprised when I first met her in person. Her SA pictures do not do her justice IMHO. I thought she was much nicer looking in person. She has a very nice figure and keeps herself in shape. I will also say she has a great personality. She is very sweet and very southern and playful and very pleasant to be with. She very much does want to meet another nice man, because she does need the help (another good sign if you have some leverage there) and I am not able to provide enough (due to time, distance, and my own budget). She has always been very kind to me, even when turning down her occasional requests for extra assistance. I highly recommend her. As always, YMMV, so be nice to her if you want her to be nice to you. Good luck.I've known her for over a year. She tells the same, "Ran from my abusive husband, abandoned everything, starting a new job next week, have an apartment lined up" sob story today that she told over a year ago. Lives in a motel but won't meet there, tells story about cousin sharing room. Wants to go to another hotel, but will do car dates. Very nice body, especially considering her age; large and rock-hard aftermarket tits with tiny nipples, tall and slender with a very good shape, but performance is mediocre to average at best and it's always rush rush rush. Always on the con, and has something of a man-hater vibe, which considering the body / enhancements makes me think former stripper. If she's your cup of tea, go for it. I'll pass.
I'm about 90 percent sure she is someone I saw 18 months ago. Same "I'm too good for you" look. If so she is cold and business like and drives a Prius. For someone new to trying Sugar Babies, I suggest you judge them by how well they reply to your messages. If she doesn't get a little flirty in a few messages between you, she probably won't be in person.Thanks.
Your description pointed me to prior reviews here referring to major drama and posting of sd private info.
WTF?
Looks like you saved my ass.
99%sure same sb.
TomDickNHarry
09-05-18, 19:00
You do prepay before visits occurred? Or post pay after visits occurred? How do you determine she is trust worthy if you do prepay. In my experience a pot took 5 oo for weekly arrangement and gone silent.You should actually read through this thread, including the FAQ. That's insane, you're actually begging to be ripped off. What girl in her right mind would ever show after you sent 500 for nothing? If she was even real and female, that same day after getting your money she probably spent the night with a guy who knew how to handle this for half that and she banked 750, most of which was yours. Or your 500 went to some old fat dude in Russia running a troll farm that specializes in ripping people off online. One or the other occurred.
Madaboutmax
09-05-18, 19:50
There is great advice in this thread highlighted in the Index also posted in the Richmond thread. Most of that information is based upon experienced SDs.
We've all made rookie mistakes. Dont beat yourarlf up, but learn fron it. Education can be expensive. There are many things I did early on that I now realize was foolish.
You should actually read through this thread, including the FAQ. That's insane, you're actually begging to be ripped off. What girl in her right mind would ever show after you sent 500 for nothing? If she was even real and female, that same day after getting your money she probably spent the night with a guy who knew how to handle this for half that and she banked 750, most of which was yours. Or your 500 went to some old fat dude in Russia running a troll farm that specializes in ripping people off online. One or the other occurred.
Maybe there is a Marto1 translator or interpreter that can help us out.
What in the world are you trying to say? I don't understand your words. -. -. -. -or how you put them together..
GPS alll the way, told me she gets 500 per week just for videos and pics, I told her she was a very lucky girl.Yes I've talked to her though text over the weekend she was supposedly at Smith mountain lake. Talked a good game so I figured what the he'll ready to leave home & everything goes quiet. All I had was street address so needless to say didn't waste my time. Apparently she fell asleep for like 6 hours begged me to come up turned her down on offer. Tried again Sunday same results!! Then got fooled into buying so videos $30 through PayPal sorry as they were she should have gave me $30 to look at them!! I don't think she has any intentions of meeting up think she's playing games!! Don't waste your time like I have!!
Its That Guy
09-06-18, 15:58
Wish I found this forum last year.
Been looking to move up from ho (s) to SA since backpage crashed.
Am willing to pay more to get more but running into GPS (out of my range. And doubt have anything to offer for that price).
Or dead fish at the 2 $ range.
This one has not been on site for long time like the permanent babies that are a waster of time.
And has a interesting look. Mix or cauc and oriental.
https://www.seeking.com/member/8138bf50-311f-4dde-a4e2-959eb90e6fee
I know I am new here but not a lot of reviews in the forum, so if that is done private please PM.
Any info if can negotiate into my range or if has decent skills worth it.
I will contribute when I get going.I know her in passing through a friend that's always dated younger girls. She's older than 22 iirc but don't quote me on that. She's also a ****. Didn't know she was in the game but that explains some things. Only had limited interactions with her.
[QUOTE=ErnestLl;3932708]All depends on where you are in the lifecycle. First meetings, pay upon delivery of services. Usually as she is leaving (I have a friend in Retail who slides me a box of the Estee Lauder "Gift with PUrchase" from the beauty department -- I slide the cash inside the little carrying case and most women just love the idea of a gift with hidden cash vs sweaty wad of cash making them feel like a *****.
I have a long running arrangement with a very vague running tally. She needed some car repairs and a few medical bills over the months. So I rarely gave her any cash when we met, but was usually pre-gifting as she needed and I could afford, plus she booked and paid for hotel room so that was factored in. Have no firm idea where I stand on the tally, but I have a very happy cock and its not affecting my financial state, so I guess I'm in good shape.
I've succesfully bartered some fuck fests -- items at charity auctions are the best, though some of my clients give me freebies -- weekend in DC or NYC, spa days. Restaurants Ill never eat at. For them to use the travel prizes, they have to disclose their true identities so I can book it for them. That involves a level of trust that implies the pay off. Some I've pre-gifted and then boned them all night when I met them. Never had a "pre-paid" bail on me yet. Several like the idea of getting a treat they would never spend money on themselves, but desperately want.
Then there are "expense substitution" gifts. I don't give them cash, but they bring their cable or cell bill and after the first round, I log on and pay it off for them. My last one like this was about to lose her Comcast service -- same as I use at the office -- so I could pay it from my business account and it s a write off -- and no, I checked, there is no track back to my bank info for the SB to see.[/QUOTE
Last March I lucked into an awesome SB / UTR. Met at a auto repair place. Beautiful mid 20's ebony single Mom, had several part time jobs and a modeling gig. I over heard she had to leave her car so I offered her a ride home.
On the ride home I mentioned that I'd be willing to help her with expenses, that we could do friends with benefits. She asked how that would work and I very gently let her know I wanted in her pants.
She really needed some $ for the car repair. I offered to get a room, but she didn't have time. Went to a park and had an awesome BBBJCIM while I played with her kitty. Gave her a Benjamin to help her out.
Saw her the next two days in hotel. BBBJ, DATY, DATO, FIV, FIO, Doggie, Mish, CG, RCG, so gorgeous! Both times she was heading to a photo shoot so had a ball, but couldn't mess up her hair!
Lot's of texting back and forth. My regular SB got bagged with a screen shot of one of my texts from her live in BF and Norfolk Single Mom was very sympathetic. I went about 6 weeks without my #1 SB and meeting this one was just what the Doctor ordered.
Meet again and had a great time. She agreed to Greek but had mentioned she hadn't enjoyed it in the past. I told her I wanted to wait until we could take our time & ease her in, little wine, little lube, you know the drill.
Well I had been giving her a couple of Benjamins. She wanted to get some more ink to complete the sleeve on her arm. Asked for 6., gave her 3.
You guessed it. Last time I saw her. I had her real cell number, dropped her off at her house, so knew where she lived and even had met one of her friends that I hooked up with later.
What a dummy. I thought about camping out at her house but it was only a few hundred down the drain and I have a lot to lose if she got pissed and wanted to make a stink. I had texted her from my real cellinthe beginning.
God I miss that young, sexy UTR. I had told her I could get her more "friends" but she said she was cool with me but didn't want to be a legit escort. I texted and called a few times but she probably blocked me. Totally zghosted🙄.
Dumb, dumb, dumb. I dream of that sweet ass and can't believe what a rookie mistake I made.
Gave her way too much trust, way to early!
JustLonely
09-06-18, 19:06
Yes I've talked to her though text over the weekend she was supposedly at Smith mountain lake. Talked a good game so I figured what the he'll ready to leave home & everything goes quiet. All I had was street address so needless to say didn't waste my time. Apparently she fell asleep for like 6 hours begged me to come up turned her down on offer. Tried again Sunday same results!! Then got fooled into buying so videos $30 through PayPal sorry as they were she should have gave me $30 to look at them!! I don't think she has any intentions of meeting up think she's playing games!! Don't waste your time like I have!!Busy girl texting from the lake as she texted on and off for hours with me. Finally got drunk it seemed as it was jibbersish at the end.
She did give me her real address to pick her up after the last minute cancelled date. But I told her I was busy. Haven't heard from her in 2 days so I guess she is reeling into another sucker. She seemed the typical teenager on her Facebook page. She wants more tattoos and wanted me to take her to get one. Luckily I passed on the vids.
Asked for 6., gave her 3.
You guessed it. Last time I saw her. I had her real cell number, dropped her off at her house, so knew where she lived and even had met one of her friends that I hooked up with later.
What a dummy. I thought about camping out at her house but it was only a few hundred down the drain and I have a lot to lose if she got pissed and wanted to make a stink. I had texted her from my real cellinthe beginning.
God I miss that young, sexy UTR. I had told her I could get her more "friends" but she said she was cool with me but didn't want to be a legit escort. I texted and called a few times but she probably blocked me. Totally zghosted🙄.
Dumb, dumb, dumb. I dream of that sweet ass and can't believe what a rookie mistake I made.Out of curiosity, did you try telling her you'd drop the $300 debt? I've decided that's the best course in those situations. You're going to be out the $300 either way, but at least if you forgive the debt, you get to continue enjoying the girl. And it puts up a good barrier against her asking for any more advances. In the past I couldn't get past the feeling that letting the debt go was somehow a win for her and a loss for me, but if the girl is great then never seeing her again is a bigger loss.
Thanks.
Your description pointed me to prior reviews here referring to major drama and posting of sd private info.
WTF?
Looks like you saved my ass.
99%sure same sb.No idea how to link to the older posts I referred to.
3-27-18 #14915.
https://www.seeking.com/member/79e98e47-9e1d-0c4c-1f75-98590168e4c6
Great site. Can't get over it.
She just finish might some one in some point it's going to pay her what she is asking, imagine a uglybitch asking for high end escort but with out sex or companionship just for send out pic this fuckking ***** one day is going to crash on a wall
GPS alll the way, told me she gets 500 per week just for videos and pics, I told her she was a very lucky girl..
Its That Guy
09-07-18, 05:35
No idea how to link to the older posts I referred to.
3-27-18 #14915.
https://www.seeking.com/member/79e98e47-9e1d-0c4c-1f75-98590168e4c6
Great site. Can't get over it.That's definitely the girl I thought it was. Doesn't drink alcohol my ass. She also screenshots pics and conversations with guys and puts them on her fb page. She's a nutbag.
No idea how to link to the older posts I referred to.
3-27-18 #14915.
https://www.seeking.com/member/79e98e47-9e1d-0c4c-1f75-98590168e4c6
Great site. Can't get over it.
That's definitely the girl I thought it was. Doesn't drink alcohol my ass. She also screenshots pics and conversations with guys and puts them on her fb page. She's a nutbag.Actually, it was #14905. Here's a link:
Starky's warning about this Sarah chick
Hello Mongers, any info good or bad with this one? I thought I remembered a post a while back but can't seem to come across it.
https://www.seeking.com/member/8ea867d2-b878-4966-b7cb-66b38777f00a
Out of curiosity, did you try telling her you'd drop the $300 debt? I've decided that's the best course in those situations. You're going to be out the $300 either way, but at least if you forgive the debt, you get to continue enjoying the girl. And it puts up a good barrier against her asking for any more advances. In the past I couldn't get past the feeling that letting the debt go was somehow a win for her and a loss for me, but if the girl is great then never seeing her again is a bigger loss.I originally told her we could knock off 1. For the next three visits until we were even.
I had agreed to go up to 3. A visit for Greek, so she'd still clear 2.
Then I did tell her forget the $$$. Call it a late B-Day present. I got her an expensive bottle of Henesey for her B-Day in March.
She totally ghosted me so no communication. Yes, the 3. would have been a small price to pay for that quality UTR, I agree.
I’m especially kicking myself that I didnt take her to the Islands. As tight as her kitty was her starfish would have been amazing. I had all I could do to put a thumb in her ass when doing her doggie!
I loved tapping that young ebony bootie. Pierced nipples & clit, really hot tats. Clean as could be and really intelligent girl.
I think she just needed a short term income boost, plus, I usually can really ring their bell but didn't get the feeling the earth moved for her.
Her friend who I hooked up with texted me that she loaned her $30 & she ghosted her too. Not the sweetheart I thought she was.
Actually, it was #14905. Here's a link:
Starky's warning about this Sarah chickRun Far, Run Fast.
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Don't post links to people's real social media
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Beachesnole02
09-07-18, 14:23
It's been my experience that when you view somebody's profile on Facebook, they will see your profile show up in their recommended friends list. If you are concerned about somebody finding your personal Facebook profile you will need to block their profile.
Can anyone else confirm this?
I wouldn't want this psycho knowing I exist!You can set up an alternate account using your secret email and pictures of someone / thing other than yourself to go facebook searching.
It's been my experience that when you view somebody's profile on Facebook, they will see your profile show up in their recommended friends list. If you are concerned about somebody finding your personal Facebook profile you will need to block their profile.
Can anyone else confirm this?
I wouldn't want this psycho knowing I exist!This is why links to personal facebook account is not good.
I clicked it too.
Might consider removing these _ seems like enuf warnings.
FarFarAway
09-07-18, 18:01
You can set up an alternate account using your secret email and pictures of someone / thing other than yourself to go facebook searching.I don't think this is going to work anymore. It has been discussed on this thread over time. A couple of years ago I made one, it worked OK for a while, and then I got a request from FB to verify my identity w / something like a utility bill. I couldn't do that, obviously, and the page was deleted. All the stuff about fake FB pages in the last election had FB looking even more closely at this.
I happen to have a 'commercial' FB page I can access, I search from that. There is a difficulty that if you search for someone and find their page, at some point in the future FB could recommend to *them* that you might be a friend. After I search someone on the site, I log out and log back in. The right hand side of the search bar has an Edit function. Clicking that, your past searches are listed. Even though FB says what you have searched for is confidential, that means to outsiders. They can still use the info on what you have searched for for their own purposes. That is why I always clear out the past searches.
Zcochran00
09-07-18, 23:43
This hasn't happened to me, but the thought crossed my mind and I was curious if it's happened to anyone else.
As we've discussed, almost every SD avoids meeting at our homes to protect our privacy, even if you don't have an SO at home to worry about. Instead, we either get hotel rooms, or see if the SB can host.
Has anyone ever had an SB suggest that you meet at your place, and question why not when you say no? If so, what reasons did you give?
JustLonely
09-08-18, 06:04
I don't think this is going to work anymore. It has been discussed on this thread over time. A couple of years ago I made one, it worked OK for a while, and then I got a request from FB to verify my identity w / something like a utility bill. I couldn't do that, obviously, and the page was deleted. All the stuff about fake FB pages in the last election had FB looking even more closely at this.
I happen to have a 'commercial' FB page I can access, I search from that. There is a difficulty that if you search for someone and find their page, at some point in the future FB could recommend to *them* that you might be a friend. After I search someone on the site, I log out and log back in. The right hand side of the search bar has an Edit function. Clicking that, your past searches are listed. Even though FB says what you have searched for is confidential, that means to outsiders. They can still use the info on what you have searched for for their own purposes. That is why I always clear out the past searches.I've never got a request from FB to verify with anything. My fake account has a photo of an airplane and the only info on it is I say I don't trust Facebook. Been using it for 2 years for this hobby and FB groups I reluctantly join for other real hobbies of mine. Once FB did away with phone number searches, its value went way down for me.
Madaboutmax
09-08-18, 08:22
I don't have an SO, so using my place is an option but still only after i've built trust with them. I would be very cautious about a girl asking to come back to my place after the first meet.
It's all about trusting that they aren't going to rob and blackmail you. Most girls I've met can be trusted, but it only takes one.
This hasn't happened to me, but the thought crossed my mind and I was curious if it's happened to anyone else.
As we've discussed, almost every SD avoids meeting at our homes to protect our privacy, even if you don't have an SO at home to worry about. Instead, we either get hotel rooms, or see if the SB can host.
Has anyone ever had an SB suggest that you meet at your place, and question why not when you say no? If so, what reasons did you give?
Luvyounger
09-08-18, 08:51
I have seen her, totally crazy.
Hello Mongers, any info good or bad with this one? I thought I remembered a post a while back but can't seem to come across it.
https://www.seeking.com/member/8ea867d2-b878-4966-b7cb-66b38777f00a
This hasn't happened to me, but the thought crossed my mind and I was curious if it's happened to anyone else.
As we've discussed, almost every SD avoids meeting at our homes to protect our privacy, even if you don't have an SO at home to worry about. Instead, we either get hotel rooms, or see if the SB can host.
Has anyone ever had an SB suggest that you meet at your place, and question why not when you say no? If so, what reasons did you give?I would like to know the answer to this too. 15 years ago when Craigslist was hopping, I hosted plenty of times at my own place and never gave it a second thought. Things are very different today. I don't have an SO either, so that's not a concern. What does give me concern is if I bring home some chick, SB or civvie, the next day (or ten years later, a-la Weinstein saga), she could claim I did something I didn't. With our screwed up legal system, my understanding is that everything she says is taken as solid fact, and it's up to me to prove she's lying. If I take her to a motel, I don't think I should be as concerned, because if she's coming up to my motel room, it would difficult for her to claim she had no intention of spreading the legs, but then again you never know.
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