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I agree 100%. These women seem to think that since they own the pussy that they are in charge. I feel that by not paying upfront, we control the situation. If they don't like it, fine, I can go get pussy elsewhere. The problem fot the women is that most of them need your money for their next night's room fee and their next fix. Do not allow them to have the power!Who are some of your favorite providers? And do they all accept payment after?
There's a lot of strong language in this thread like "advantage," "leverage", "control" & "power" that seem like they go well beyond the reasonable and customary limits around mutual consent. It's not how I roll, but I understand we are all here for different reasons.It's a good observation. I think there tend to be two ways prostitution is described:
1. As a hobby.
2. As a game.
People who tend to use the term "hobby" usually think of prostitution in positive terms. It's fun, adventurous, and a real passion. People who call it a hobby love the experience and often fondly describe time they spend with women.
People who tend to use the term "game" usually think of prostitution as a competition between themselves and the prostitute. For them it's about winning more so than enjoying the experience. This is where you see terms like "control" and "advantage". You go in like it's a battle of wits and the objective is to come out as the winner of the exchange.
I sometimes wonder if guys who describe prostitution in battle terms come away from each encounter feeling joy or if it's more relief. And if prostitution is more of a hobby or a habit for them.
That's also why I'm curious about the kinds of girls these guys see. If you're constantly pushing the outer edges of LC to find the absolute best deal you can, then yeah maybe you learn to always be on high alert because that's where most of the scammers are. That's not the area where I usually play but I could understand that point of view if that's where these guys like to be.
I agree 100%. These women seem to think that since they own the pussy that they are in charge. I feel that by not paying upfront, we control the situation. If they don't like it, fine, I can go get pussy elsewhere. The problem fot the women is that most of them need your money for their next night's room fee and their next fix. Do not allow them to have the power!Maybe this shows the kinds of girls who are willing to accept being payed afterwards, so where do you go to seek out these types of girls?.
I was thinking back to the times I was ripped off. And by ripped off I mean they made off with the money without providing any service. (I don't consider "I didn't like her BJ" to be a rip off and I would never withhold payment over that anyway. I just wouldn't tip and wouldn't see her again).
I might be missing a few but I can think of five times I've been ripped off ever. Out of about 400+ women I've seen that's almost a 99% success rate.
Among those five, I was thinking just now what would have happened if I refused to pay them until after and walked out (or tried to walk out).
Two of them yeah, it probably would have saved me money as I would have walked out and that would have been then end of that.
Of the other three, two were incalls and one was an outcall.
Both incalls were of the "possibly dangerous pimp right there" variety and I'm not at all confident that not paying would have been a better option than paying and getting ripped off. In situations like that, you're risking a lot if you end up in a confrontation with a pimp. Best case scenario you end up paying the money anyway to get out with no incident. Worst case scenario it becomes violent. Whether you win or lose, the consequences are worse than the money at stake.
The last one was an outcall. I opened the door and a TS came barging through demanding the money. I gave "her" the money because "she" was clearly unstable and running around the room looking for money. I tried pushing him out and he said "touch me and I will fucking scream" so I gave him money and he left. Again, a case where paying is cheaper than not paying.
If I stick with agencies or well reviewed independents and keep paying attention to the latest reviews and do my part to post reviews I don't face much risk.
As you know I'm a Payment Afterwards proponent.
Those in favor of Payment Upfront gave me insight of why this method is best. I'm in agreement with most points. But it's not enough to convince me to ever pay upfront. Especially reading about Jinurso's harrowing personal experiences. Thanks to those who had thoughtful insights on this issue.
MrWhite627
10-12-21, 09:34
Who are some of your favorite providers? And do they all accept payment after?If you don't want to give provider names that allow pay after. Can you tell us the name of the place that you found them? AMP, Agency or web site?
A few years back I too got ripped off a few times. I decided to try the "Pay after Play" and it didn't work for me. I didn't want to waste my time so instead of asking them when I arrived. I asked them via text after the amount was agreed upon if they would do " Pay After Play ". I tried this with 30 to 40 different providers mostly from sites like EB, STGs etc. The replies that I received back were 100% NO! I then tried to ask if they would do half upfront and half after. Again 100 % NO! When they replied back with NO. I explained to them that I asked because I had been ripped of in the past. The few replies I received from them were all " I have too " that's why I won't do it.
Am I missing something? Is there a certain tactic you use to get them to agree to Pay after Play besides walk out if they won't?
Who are some of your favorite providers? And do they all accept payment after?I would also like to know, Ron. Who are you seeing who has always accepted payment at the end of the date?
It's a good observation. I think there tend to be two ways prostitution is described:
1. As a hobby.
2. As a game.
People who tend to use the term "hobby" usually think of prostitution in positive terms. It's fun, adventurous, and a real passion. People who call it a hobby love the experience and often fondly describe time they spend with women.
People who tend to use the term "game" usually think of prostitution as a competition between themselves and the prostitute. For them it's about winning more so than enjoying the experience. This is where you see terms like "control" and "advantage". You go in like it's a battle of wits and the objective is to come out as the winner of the exchange.
I sometimes wonder if guys who describe prostitution in battle terms come away from each encounter feeling joy or if it's more relief. And if prostitution is more of a hobby or a habit for them..Great observation, the last words in my mind when seeing girls are words like power, leverage, control, advantage and game. I have no interest in girls who are focused on those things. I'd still like to hear these guys name who has gone along with their wishes and who hasn't. For the sake of argument I can get that guys might be selfish or embarrassed by the girls they see but what possible explanation could there be to not mention names of girls who have turned them down?
Perhaps claiming this tactic makes them feel powerful on this board and they don't even see any girls, they just rub one out after posting their fantasies here. There are lots more different kinks and fetishes than anyone can imagine Maybe in the pursuit of separating fantasies from real experiences these guys might preface their posts that they are talking about fantasies that they have, maybe even give them a sub forum where they can say whatever they want and not be questioned and will be supported for their vivid imaginations.
If you don't want to give provider names that allow pay after. Can you tell us the name of the place that you found them? AMP, Agency or web site?
A few years back I too got ripped off a few times. I decided to try the "Pay after Play" and it didn't work for me. I didn't want to waste my time so instead of asking them when I arrived. I asked them via text after the amount was agreed upon if they would do " Pay After Play ". I tried this with 30 to 40 different providers mostly from sites like EB, STGs etc. The replies that I received back were 100% NO! I then tried to ask if they would do half upfront and half after. Again 100 % NO! When they replied back with NO. I explained to them that I asked because I had been ripped of in the past. The few replies I received from them were all " I have too " that's why I won't do it.
Am I missing something? Is there a certain tactic you use to get them to agree to Pay after Play besides walk out if they won't?You're not missing anything. Some people will argue without answering follow up questions and keep hammering a point home without any substantial facts to back up their point. They want to be right, they don't want to get it right. Take Ron, I have asked and others have asked who specifically he has seen that agrees to take money after the fact. He didn't respond to me publicly (or privately) and he didn't respond to the others at least publicly. Someone else on this forum went through his last 250 or so posts and didn't find a single review on a specific girl. That should be a clue right there.
I am not interested in being right in an argument. I am not interested in winning the debate or getting someone on an opposing viewpoint to admit I was right. I am more worried about getting it right. So this will be my last comment on this subject about paying before vs. later. I am only writing this post so others who are reading this thread and don't know what to do can read my thoughts and make a decision based on what they perceived as being right for them. If paying after is your goal go for it. If you find a provider who is willing to do this great for you. I hope you leave a review and let others know your success. For me, I am just going to ignore these pay later posts unless someone tells a specific provider that allows this and others write reviews confirming. But by continuing this topic you are giving the pay later but I won't tell who crowd what they want, attention. It's really no different that the infamous Hangingballs who would leave outrageous reviews and then when called out on it would leave more. He got attention and that's all he wanted. Let's stop and get back on topic. This particular thread is about rip offs and scams. Let us get back to calling out the providers who are trying to steal our money.
B.
Thanks to everyone who took time to post their experiences with paying before versus paying after. I was glad to read that I am not the only sucker who pays up front! I agree with the last post, not here to argue, just sharing my experience for those who are on the fence about this.
I have been hobbying for about 5 years and I never book a session without some research. No verifiable reviews, I move on, no matter how good they look. I always pay up front and I've never been ripped off after hundreds of sessions. It took a few years to build up my contact list, but at this point, I know more solid providers than I can ever possibly see in a year. I never have to worry about these ladies ripping me off. I have ladies on my list at every price point, including several lower tier ladies who are always available for those last minute, late night cravings, but are not scam artists.
If you enjoy the thrill of always meeting up with a different woman, or you enjoy finding the best bargain out there, then you will probably have more high risk encounters. But, if you take your time and do your research, there are many solid, well reviewed providers out there at every price point who are not looking to rip people off.
Deposits are another thing entirely. The woman would have to be very well known and reviewed, otherwise, no way.
IndigoWalk
10-12-21, 21:57
As you know I'm a Payment Afterwards proponent.
Those in favor of Payment Upfront gave me insight of why this method is best. I'm in agreement with most points. But it's not enough to convince me to ever pay upfront. Especially reading about Jinurso's harrowing personal experiences. "harrowing experiences" - losing $1,000 over 400 experiences by using good decision making? $2. 50 per transaction? Do you use credit cards which takes 3% per swipe? Damn, in my business I have to make or break 10 K in decisions every day on who to do deals with and who not to. There are a lot of unprofessionals in the world, and you have to decide who to work with and who not to. And there are not that many businesses, or business professionals out there, so I'm like what? Something is off here. Please tell us more.
There is also a middle ground. At AMP's, sometimes the tip payment gets pushed to the end, and for me at least, has often never been negotiated, even at first time places. And my philosophy on the delayed pay at the end is: "thank you for not being a boner killer and I will tip generously" where "generously" probably means $20 over what might be the going rate for a L1, L2 or L3 (I think I am probably on point on L2 and L3, just tip more on L1 to get the street cred, and I'd tip $20 bucks no matter if I got a L1 or not). They will sometime negotiate in the middle of a sessions. I have sometimes negotiated a lower level based on their pricing, but I still pay mid session if they ask. I'm not in this to get the cheapest hand job possible, I just like to relax.
"harrowing experiences" - losing $1,000 over 400 experiences by using good decision making? $2. 50 per transaction? Do you use credit cards which takes 3% per swipe? And on top of that, in most of those cases I suspect the result would have been even more harrowing had I chosen not to pay.
The takeaway for me wasn't to stop paying upfront, it was to do a better job vetting the escorts.
George Stark
10-16-21, 02:33
Take Ron, I have asked and others have asked who specifically he has seen that agrees to take money after the fact.
I asked him for info, but I didn't even ask for that much, specifically. I just wanted to know what percent of the time the girl went for it, as opposed to how often the girl sending him packing. I asked multiple times. Crickets. I guess math is hard. 🤣.
Someone else on this forum went through his last 250 or so posts and didn't find a single review on a specific girl. That was me, too. If he'd actually given a girl a good review, then by his statement, that would be a girl that would accept payment after.
Of course, if a girl has good reviews, the issue of paying before or after is *much* less of an issue.
BTW, for me, this is all regarding paying of escorts, typically found on LC. It's not about deposits for incalls - that's always a hard no. It's not about tipping at massage parlors, I haven't been. And like others here, once I've seen a girl a few times, it often doesn't get handled until later in the events.
IndigoWalk
10-21-21, 19:19
Had seen Marissa last year with no incident (it was a flavor of the month thing. COVID did weird things to me to try a lot of different things out). She reached out to me last night and for whatever reason I bit. (more on that in another thread). I should have known something was off because she kept hard selling / pushing the two girl /"double trouble" even before the visit, when I was clear I just wanted a hhr trip to greece. Anyway, get there in the same place that everything was fine the first couple of visits, and she's still trying to aggressively sell the upgrade, and I'm starting to get comfortable with my shoes off - "let me bring her out. Hey Skittles. " and now between me and the door is a guy who has at least 6 inches on me, and with 30 years of youth on me as well.
All in all, a calm and professional robbery. I hand over the donation, all my pockets are searched, I got to keep my phone and car key. I brought nothing else with.
So it really doesn't matter if you pay upfront or not. That kind of situation is going to happen from time to time. Stay calm. I'm a little surprised repeat visitors would be robbed. Seems like a bad business practice. Anyone got insight on this?
https://chicago.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/60qv-soft-to-the-touchseducti/690593223679
To take the edge off, I did have a delightful hhr session with SageRose. Complete 180 degrees in body type. Big, Small, I like them all! LOL.
https://chicago.rubratings.com/245092
So I went into the city today and both of my plans fell through on me, so it left me scrambling to find anything. I came across this ad and she answered texts quickly. Instead of quoting me rates, she asks "Do you have $300?" I told her I did and asked if that included FS. She told me it did and she was near Diversey and Laramie. I had to the area and text her when I get there. Gives me the address of the apartment building across the street and says come on in. I walk up to the front door and it's locked. She calls me at that time and tells me she's actually across the street. I stay on the phone with her as I walk across the street and she tells me her friend is leaving and her friend will hold the door for me. I ask if her friend is a man or woman and she tells me he's a transgender person. Then she makes it a point to tell me "Make sure you have the donation out right when you walk in so I know you're not a cop. ".
So as if all the other things weren't off already, I finally decide to book out of there before her "friend" came to the door and possibly tried to rob me. One last thing, the pics are of a white or Hispanic woman. When she called me, it was clearly the voice of a black woman on the phone. I didn't want to stick around to find out if it was legit or not. Now her ad is stating $120 flash sale.
Just FYI. Be careful out there.
I don't think anyone has mentioned this yet. But paying up front removes the last threshold before they get you if it happens to be a LEO bust. If you read the IL criminal code, central to the crime of prostitution is the exchange of money for sex. And since cops are not allowed to get naked or touch for sting ops, they can't pay AFTER the fact. So as long as you keep your mouth shut, you still have room to beat the charge of solicitation or attempt long as the exchange of money hasn't taken place.
The only time I pay money upfront is if the girl's already fully or partially naked (Tits or pussy out) AND has been reported on positively or I've seen her before and I know she gives good service.
George Stark
10-22-21, 13:34
I didn't want to waste my time so instead of asking them when I arrived, I asked them via text after the amount was agreed upon if they would do " Pay After Play ". I tried this with 30 to 40 different providers mostly from sites like EB, STGs etc. The replies that I received back were 100% NO! That's what I'd expect, actually: at that point she's got no skin in the game. I'm pretty sure Ron said he'd go see the girl and then tell her he expected to pay after (and if she disagreed, he walked). At that point, she's spent the time waiting. But you've also spent the time driving. So when she still says no, which is apparently going to be (nearly) always, you're out all that time *plus* the trip back home. That's what motivated my initial questions about his batting average, which was never answered. At that point, I didn't really doubt him - I just wanted some idea of how much I'd have to go through.
I'll only insist on after if I've already had problems with the chick. That's happened twice. In one case, I just decided I didn't trust the b!tch not to harm me anyhow, because she was fucked up *worse* than drugs and booze could account for. . The other was Jessica, and that worked out, but the reports on her here got increasingly dire, so that only happened once.
I might try the 'drive there and insist on after' on this one, Mercedes Wave: https://escortbabylon.net/posts_list/7085221465/1 because she's pretty hot, but a girl using most of the same pics (possibly under a previous number) got multiple absolutely terrible reviews. (So bad that I'm unsure there's any way to get a good session out of her. Reports were that she actually *enjoyed* fucking wit guys.) And if she's in South Holland or Lansing, there's a bunch of other girls to go see if she doesn't go for it. And maybe that's the secret to the Ron approach: you try the pay after approach, and if it bombs and you're in a target-rich environment, you try it again with other girls, so it doesn't take a million trips. Or you settle on seeing one and paying before, but Ron denies that's ever happened, so who knows?
Again, this applies to LC girls, not agency or massage parlor.
I don't think anyone has mentioned this yet. But paying up front removes the last threshold before they get you if it happens to be a LEO bust. If you read the IL criminal code, central to the crime of prostitution is the exchange of money for sex. And since cops are not allowed to get naked or touch for sting ops, they can't pay AFTER the fact. So as long as you keep your mouth shut, you still have room to beat the charge of solicitation or attempt long as the exchange of money hasn't taken place.
The only time I pay money upfront is if the girl's already fully or partially naked (Tits or pussy out) AND has been reported on positively or I've seen her before and I know she gives good service.Please stop spreading these horrible lies about what's legal and illegal.
1) You do not have to exchange $ for it to be illegal, if you told the girl you'd buy her a Subway sandwich after the act. That's illegal.
(720 ILCS 5/11-14) (from Ch. 38, par. 11-14).
Sec. 11-14. Prostitution.
(a) Any person who knowingly performs, offers or agrees to perform any act of sexual penetration as defined in Section 11-0. 1 of this Code for anything of value, or any touching or fondling of the sex organs of one person by another person, for anything of value, for the purpose of sexual arousal or gratification commits an act of prostitution.
2) Male cops do touch and do get naked, many example on the AMP arrest articles and the one below. Female cops will probably not get naked but it wouldn't be off limits, if you watch some of the MSNBC shows they girls in the stings will hug and rub on the guys before the arrest.
https://apnews.com/article/york-prostitution-police-arrests-42cd8231793b4ca8aa062f053484465b
Please stop spreading these horrible lies about what's legal and illegal.
1) You do not have to exchange $ for it to be illegal, if you told the girl you'd buy her a Subway sandwich after the act. That's illegal.
(720 ILCS 5/11-14) (from Ch. 38, par. 11-14).
Sec. 11-14. Prostitution.
(a) Any person who knowingly performs, offers or agrees to perform any act of sexual penetration as defined in Section 11-0. 1 of this Code for anything of value, or any touching or fondling of the sex organs of one person by another person, for anything of value, for the purpose of sexual arousal or gratification commits an act of prostitution.
2) Male cops do touch and do get naked, many example on the AMP arrest articles and the one below. Female cops will probably not get naked but it wouldn't be off limits, if you watch some of the MSNBC shows they girls in the stings will hug and rub on the guys before the arrest.
https://apnews.com/article/york-prostitution-police-arrests-42cd8231793b4ca8aa062f053484465bThe article you linked proved my point. That's in Pennsylvania. This is a section of the forum for CHICAGO, which is in ILLINOIS. In the state of Illinois, the protocol is still no nudity or touching for stings. And I don't see the geriatrics on the court in Springfield changing that anytime soon. Outside of Cook County, this is still a fairly conservative state. Good luck to any sheriff or prosecutor telling the public that their officers got naked and participated in sexual activity while on the public's dime.
Speaking of Cook County. Do you honestly think Kim Foxx is going to go after an iffy case of some horndog paying for sex? She drops felonies when they're dubious or weak cases. Paying for sex ranks way low on the list of priorities and the more cloudy the case, the more likely it'll be dropped or just not charged in the first place.
SleepOdyssey
10-23-21, 02:11
https://chicago.rubratings.com/245092
So I went into the city today and both of my plans fell through on me, so it left me scrambling to find anything. I came across this ad and she answered texts quickly. Instead of quoting me rates, she asks "Do you have $300?" I told her I did and asked if that included FS. She told me it did and she was near Diversey and Laramie. I had to the area and text her when I get there. Gives me the address of the apartment building across the street and says come on in. I walk up to the front door and it's locked. She calls me at that time and tells me she's actually across the street. I stay on the phone with her as I walk across the street and she tells me her friend is leaving and her friend will hold the door for me. I ask if her friend is a man or woman and she tells me he's a transgender person. Then she makes it a point to tell me "Make sure you have the donation out right when you walk in so I know you're not a cop. ".
So as if all the other things weren't off already, I finally decide to book out of there before her "friend" came to the door and possibly tried to rob me. One last thing, the pics are of a white or Hispanic woman. When she called me, it was clearly the voice of a black woman on the phone. I didn't want to stick around to find out if it was legit or not. Now her ad is stating $120 flash sale.
Just FYI. Be careful out there.There's so many red flags here. You guys got to be careful about this stuff. I know your little head is telling you to go ahead and put up with these weird signs. But, you have to snap out of it or else you risk getting hurt or robbed. I don't want to sound condescending, but I don't think a real working lady will plainly ask you "Do you have $300". If her voice doesn't seem to match, leave. They might've been looking through a window too scoping out the area, when they tricked you telling you to cross the street.
Stay safe guys.
Had seen Marissa last year with no incident (it was a flavor of the month thing. COVID did weird things to me to try a lot of different things out). She reached out to me last night and for whatever reason I bit. (more on that in another thread). I should have known something was off because she kept hard selling / pushing the two girl /"double trouble" even before the visit, when I was clear I just wanted a hhr trip to greece. Anyway, get there in the same place that everything was fine the first couple of visits, and she's still trying to aggressively sell the upgrade, and I'm starting to get comfortable with my shoes off - "let me bring her out. Hey Skittles. " and now between me and the door is a guy who has at least 6 inches on me, and with 30 years of youth on me as well.
All in all, a calm and professional robbery. I hand over the donation, all my pockets are searched, I got to keep my phone and car key. I brought nothing else with.
So it really doesn't matter if you pay upfront or not. That kind of situation is going to happen from time to time. Stay calm. I'm a little surprised repeat visitors would be robbed. Seems like a bad business practice. Anyone got insight on this?
https://chicago.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/60qv-soft-to-the-touchseducti/690593223679
To take the edge off, I did have a delightful hhr session with SageRose. Complete 180 degrees in body type. Big, Small, I like them all! LOL.Seemed nice over phone. Got to parking lot of hotel and saw her with a group of people. A black dude came by and asked for a jump. After telling him "No", I felt uncomfortable and took off. A few minutes later she calls yelling calling me a "b*tch" and threatens to give my number to some blacklist site.
Think I escaped a bad scene this time.
IndigoWalk
10-24-21, 10:34
"Skittles" - taller black guy, maybe 6" mid 20's - 30's. Average build. More skinny than athletic, but not worth a kerfuffle. Was courteous enough to wear a bandanna mask to protect me from possible COVID-19 while robbing me.
"Fat Albert" - black guy with that "Hey hey hey!" Fat Albert / Bill Cosby kind of personality. Heavier set. Maybe 3/4 size of Fat Albert. Older - 50? Or milage to make him look like it. Wore a backpack. Maybe 5' 8" Bad teeth / gold teeth. Was hanging around outside of incall wandering aimlessly with Violet, clearly waiting for my arrival. They left, leaving the gate open for me as soon as they saw me. Plenty of eye contact and conversation. They tried to make it seem as if that was random.
"Voilet" - Thick white girl, on the bigger side, but still half the size of Marissa. Mid-20's? Looks surprisingly healthy & clean for this group, that for the most part all looked a bit worn out. She has a nice smile and good teeth. The rest of them, not so much. She gave me her number, but I think she really gave me Fat Albert's number. She couldn't remember her own digits. Still learning the game but is going to be rip-off trouble later when she learns how to really hook a guy in, as she was clearly being coached by Fat Albert. Almost had me in my 2nd moment of bad decision making, but enough flags I left.
Voilet, despite telling me she lived in the building on Damen, wanted me to go to River North (Lincoln / Peterson) where she had a room. (presumably Fat Albert's room).
Hope that is helpful.
Seemed nice over phone. Got to parking lot of hotel and saw her with a group of people. A black dude came by and asked for a jump. After telling him "No", I felt uncomfortable and took off. A few minutes later she calls yelling calling me a "b*tch" and threatens to give my number to some blacklist site.
Think I escaped a bad scene this time.
Had seen Marissa last year with no incident (it was a flavor of the month thing. COVID did weird things to me to try a lot of different things out). She reached out to me last night and for whatever reason I bit. (more on that in another thread). I should have known something was off because she kept hard selling / pushing the two girl /"double trouble" even before the visit, when I was clear I just wanted a hhr trip to greece. Anyway, get there in the same place that everything was fine the first couple of visits, and she's still trying to aggressively sell the upgrade, and I'm starting to get comfortable with my shoes off - "let me bring her out. Hey Skittles. " and now between me and the door is a guy who has at least 6 inches on me, and with 30 years of youth on me as well.
All in all, a calm and professional robbery. I hand over the donation, all my pockets are searched, I got to keep my phone and car key. I brought nothing else with.
So it really doesn't matter if you pay upfront or not. That kind of situation is going to happen from time to time. Stay calm. I'm a little surprised repeat visitors would be robbed. Seems like a bad business practice. Anyone got insight on this?
https://chicago.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/60qv-soft-to-the-touchseducti/690593223679
To take the edge off, I did have a delightful hhr session with SageRose. Complete 180 degrees in body type. Big, Small, I like them all! LOL.I saw Marissa about a year ago in her apartment up north.
Its sad to see she is robbing mongers now.
Stay Safe guys!!
She had recent TER rating so I figured to take my chance and give her +100 deposit to meet at her incall. After many years of mongering, I let myself get scammed to something like this. My JR was thinking for me at this short visit in Chicago. Well, I knew doing it came with this risk so can't complain. Was trying to get in w/ Alena agency but the screening is ridiculously difficult despite giving full ID with selfie of me with it. SMH, all the time wasted could have got me laid for free at the bars. Anyway, do NOT send a deposit to this ****. Will claim she didn't receive screenshots of receipt or the money in her cash app.
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She had recent TER rating so I figured to take my chance and give her +100 deposit to meet at her incall. After many years of mongering, I let myself get scammed to something like this. My JR was thinking for me at this short visit in Chicago. Well, I knew doing it came with this risk so can't complain. Was trying to get in w/ Alena agency but the screening is ridiculously difficult despite giving full ID with selfie of me with it. SMH, all the time wasted could have got me laid for free at the bars. Anyway, do NOT send a deposit to this ****. Will claim she didn't receive screenshots of receipt or the money in her cash app.
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https://www.theeroticreview.com/reviews/aniston-bleu-2168684924-352538She's been talked about in here for scamming! I know most of the time we think with our little heads and make mistakes.
SpaceFire024
10-30-21, 10:31
Had seen Marissa last year with no incident (it was a flavor of the month thing. COVID did weird things to me to try a lot of different things out). She reached out to me last night and for whatever reason I bit. (more on that in another thread). I should have known something was off because she kept hard selling / pushing the two girl /"double trouble" even before the visit, when I was clear I just wanted a hhr trip to greece. Anyway, get there in the same place that everything was fine the first couple of visits, and she's still trying to aggressively sell the upgrade, and I'm starting to get comfortable with my shoes off - "let me bring her out. Hey Skittles. " and now between me and the door is a guy who has at least 6 inches on me, and with 30 years of youth on me as well.
All in all, a calm and professional robbery. I hand over the donation, all my pockets are searched, I got to keep my phone and car key. I brought nothing else with.
So it really doesn't matter if you pay upfront or not. That kind of situation is going to happen from time to time. Stay calm. I'm a little surprised repeat visitors would be robbed. Seems like a bad business practice. Anyone got insight on this?
https://chicago.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/60qv-soft-to-the-touchseducti/690593223679
To take the edge off, I did have a delightful hhr session with SageRose. Complete 180 degrees in body type. Big, Small, I like them all! LOL.I don't know if these are the same people but I got robbed too and they advertise in the same area:
https://chicago.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/latin/ready-2-please-u/702060530082
Setup a time over text, got the location of an apartment building in the Rogers Park area, I live in the area so it was nice and convenient. I walked into the building and on the second floor landing this skinny middle aged black guy asked if I was there for the girl. I thought this was going to be my first encounter with a pimp but when I pulled out my money he slapped it out of my hand. I feel like I probably could have taken him but didn't know if he had a weapon on him. I'm not going to die for $350 so I didn't put up any fight, he just wanted the cash and didn't take anything else. Just be careful, not sure what warning signs I missed. I've been reporting the ad but they keep posting and are fishing for someone else. Stay safe.
IndigoWalk
11-04-21, 22:51
And notice how their ad is down. As I see it again I will continue to repost it. Because I have more time than they do! (Probably not, but fun to say, LOL).
I don't know if these are the same people but I got robbed too and they advertise in the same area:
https://chicago.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/latin/ready-2-please-u/702060530082
Setup a time over text, got the location of an apartment building in the Rogers Park area, I live in the area so it was nice and convenient. I walked into the building and on the second floor landing this skinny middle aged black guy asked if I was there for the girl. I thought this was going to be my first encounter with a pimp but when I pulled out my money he slapped it out of my hand. I feel like I probably could have taken him but didn't know if he had a weapon on him. I'm not going to die for $350 so I didn't put up any fight, he just wanted the cash and didn't take anything else. Just be careful, not sure what warning signs I missed. I've been reporting the ad but they keep posting and are fishing for someone else. Stay safe.
I don't know if these are the same people but I got robbed too and they advertise in the same area:
https://chicago.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/latin/ready-2-please-u/702060530082
Setup a time over text, got the location of an apartment building in the Rogers Park area, I live in the area so it was nice and convenient. I walked into the building and on the second floor landing this skinny middle aged black guy asked if I was there for the girl. I thought this was going to be my first encounter with a pimp but when I pulled out my money he slapped it out of my hand. I feel like I probably could have taken him but didn't know if he had a weapon on him. I'm not going to die for $350 so I didn't put up any fight, he just wanted the cash and didn't take anything else. Just be careful, not sure what warning signs I missed. I've been reporting the ad but they keep posting and are fishing for someone else. Stay safe.And, why would you pull money out of your pocket for a middle aged guy?
There's so many red flags here. You guys got to be careful about this stuff. I know your little head is telling you to go ahead and put up with these weird signs. But, you have to snap out of it or else you risk getting hurt or robbed. I don't want to sound condescending, but I don't think a real working lady will plainly ask you "Do you have $300". If her voice doesn't seem to match, leave. They might've been looking through a window too scoping out the area, when they tricked you telling you to cross the street.
Stay safe guys.That's all you need to know. That's big time hood. I also got robbed this summer, same skinny effeminate dude wearing a bandana, I replied to a rubratings add. Was not thinking (as usual) about the circumstances. Pictures were obviously not taken in the slum apartment.
Dude stopped me in the hall way, asked for the donation, I hesitated, he displayed a gun from a fanny pack. Did not point it, just made sure I saw it. I said here you go. Bye bye. I figured it's the best investment I ever made as I walked out and learned never ever go to a slum apartment or rat motel.
Stick with established agencies gentlemen, the extra $150 bucks is not worth your life.
Here is the link:
https://chicago.rubratings.com/225315
SpaceFire024
11-05-21, 23:23
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Do you see where it says "Report Post?"
Don't feed the trolls.
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That's all you need to know. That's big time hood. I also got robbed this summer, same skinny effeminate dude wearing a bandana, I replied to a rubratings add. Was not thinking (as usual) about the circumstances. Pictures were obviously not taken in the slum apartment.
Dude stopped me in the hall way, asked for the donation, I hesitated, he displayed a gun from a fanny pack. Did not point it, just made sure I saw it. I said here you go. Bye bye. I figured it's the best investment I ever made as I walked out and learned never ever go to a slum apartment or rat motel.
Stick with established agencies gentlemen, the extra $150 bucks is not worth your life.
Here is the link:
https://chicago.rubratings.com/225315Diversey & Laramie is not "the hood." Yes, it is a primarily Latino neighborhood but is not a dangerous area by any means compared to Lincoln Park or Wicker Park. In fact, you are more likely to be robbed in those neighborhoods.
Type in 2800 and Laramie and compare it to 600 W Webster or 1600 and Damen.
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Stop scaring people, just use common sense out there.
Member #6323
11-06-21, 12:39
Please be cautious of this woman: https://onlyfans.com/swickedbeauty?ref=.
She references California a lot in her profiles on various websites and has gone under a bunch of different names. She appears homeless and has a record, some say she is a thief. I would not doubt she is funding a drug problem.
George Stark
11-07-21, 01:52
compared to Lincoln Park or Wicker Park. In fact, you are more likely to be robbed in those neighborhoods.
Lincoln Park is hood? I wouldn't have expect that.
Please be cautious of this woman: https://onlyfans.com/swickedbeauty?ref=.
She references California a lot in her profiles on various websites and has gone under a bunch of different names. She appears homeless and has a record, some say she is a thief. I would not doubt she is funding a drug problem.She has been discussed quite a bit on this board and a couple of guys have seen her. So good looking and so dangerous.
Lincoln Park is hood? I wouldn't have expect that.I don't believe he called lincoln park a "hood".
And for whatever insane reason I called on this ad.
https://chicago.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/exotic/non-rushed-experience/382775435641
Do not, I repeat NOT, waste your time and money.
Firstly she looks nothing like her photos. Third floor walkup pig sty. No bed. Couch only. Which I now feel the need to get deloused.
Total rush job. Full hour baby turned into about twelve minutes. Those 12 minutes were nothing to write home about as they say so I actually was quite ok with leaving.
Really terrible experience.
George Stark
11-08-21, 21:02
Mochaa. Avoid.
This girl doesn't belong in this business and I'm pretty sure she's got a manager / pimp.
I really liked this girls pics, she's got a body that makes my mouth water, so with spotty posting history and no reviews, I still decided to TOFTT.
Here's a link, but concentrate on the images, her pattern is to post for a few days, disappear for a few weeks or months, then come back and post again, but with a different phone number.
Link, including phone number: https://escortbabylon.net/posts_list/7737875689/1.
See images below. I noticed that she was smiling in none of her pictures. What I didn't notice was how desperately unhappy she seemed in at least the first image. I really have to wonder if she's doing this totally voluntarily.
Duo verification was good so I went down to see her, Red Roof in Lansing.
It took 2 tries. I went down at 3 or 4 am the previous morning but when I got there I couldn't raise her on phone or text, so after 30 minutes I left. She actually texted and called the next morning and apologized. She sounded ok at that point.
Turns out her posted rates are just some basic service, maybe just CBJ / cfs. Everything I wanted (DATO / DATY / DFK) was extra. (No bare anything.) And most of those things she then did grudgingly and kept pulling away. She even asked for more, again, for DFK, and then still did very little of that. Basically, she said she never did any of that with clients and was not comfortable. I pointed out that I hadn't done anything that we hadn't agreed to. Crickets. I think it may be a scam. The whole thing nearly fell apart with her acting like a b!tch, But it got better when I gave her the extra she asked for for DFK, even though she did it little and grudgingly. And somehow we got through, I got off, I got enough of what I wanted nit to be totally furious right then, and somehow she was all smiles at the end. We were actually talking / texting this morning about getting together again. But after thinking some more, I realized that that visit was really a disaster and I wanted no part of it, plus I don't repeat with girls who I believe to have pimps. (Yet.).
I got off, I got a fair amount of what I paid for, but I would never repeat.
Afterwards she was saying it'd be better next time because she'd drink. But then she said her sister didn't want her to drink. She mentioned her "sister" another time or 2 and I really got the idea that her "sister" was her manager / pimp.
One more thing about her not belonging in this business: she wanted me to use a condom for a handjob! Said she didn't want come on her hands or the sheets. Idiot.
George Stark
11-09-21, 22:48
Re: Mochaa.
The whole thing nearly fell apart with her acting like a b!tch, But it got better when I gave her the extra she asked for for DFK, even though she did it little and grudgingly. ... somehow she was all smiles at the end. In retrospect, I think she got all nice and sweet again because she thought I was a sucker (yeah, for a few minutes) that she could fuck over for fun and profit again (no). She actually hit me up the next day to come down. I told her she needed to explain why a second visit would be *far* better than the first, since after a little time to think about it, I considered the first visit a disaster. Of course, that drew crickets.
ChiTownGuy23
11-17-21, 10:43
Re: Mochaa.
In retrospect, I think she got all nice and sweet again because she thought I was a sucker (yeah, for a few minutes) that she could fuck over for fun and profit again (no). She actually hit me up the next day to come down. I told her she needed to explain why a second visit would be *far* better than the first, since after a little time to think about it, I considered the first visit a disaster. Of course, that drew crickets.I've seen her ads on LC plenty of times and I was definitely interested but after reading your review I'm absolutely going to avoid.
Thanks George.
Wasted 300 on Bunny tonight. I was horny, saw "GFE" in her ad, and she looked cute. She is easily 40 pounds heavier than her photos suggest, all of it in her belly and somehow none of it on her boobs. Stretch marks everywhere, missing teeth. She had an hour to prepare but was wearing pajamas when I arrived (not the sexy kind) Not at all GFE as her ad indicates (no DFK, unwilling to do several positions) and she was more interested in her phone and complaining about her problems than anything else. I showed up horny and she managed to completely kill my boner. Don't waste your money on this chick.
CavalierCity
11-23-21, 22:03
https://adultsearch.com/illinois/chicago/female-escorts/2642776
Leilani came by my place of residence we had scheduled our appointment for 930 pm but she didn't arrive until 1120 pm. She walked in the door and was very nice but smelled of cigarettes, weed, and liquor. We continued our session in my living room where she wanted to dance a little, so she did but as soon as she started she wanted to keep drinking, so she asked for alcohol, no problem there. She then proceeded to ask if I had weed a d I responded with no. She then asked if I had cigarettes. Say no. She will smoke all of your cigarettes if she could. She continued dancing and then had to sit down because she was too intoxicated. Ridiculous. Needless to say I never got anything out of our appointment, she was too intoxicated, never got to see any of her if you know why I mean. She was a complete waste of time especially for the donation she was asking. After she saw that I was having a terrible time she had the audacity to ask if I would like to extend the session. Of course I responded right away with No. Please do not waste your time and money. She said she also works in Vegas, where she is originally from. Keep an eye out for this woman and steer clear. The only positive thing I can say is that she was nice.
She's got a new name so I'm sharing the public service announcement. I'm sure most of the regulars know by now but just in case. Avoid her and her boyfriend ripoff partner:
https://chicago.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/classy-courtesan-nodrama-norus/125754713695
Member #6913
11-26-21, 14:13
She's got a new name so I'm sharing the public service announcement. I'm sure most of the regulars know by now but just in case. Avoid her and her boyfriend ripoff partner:
https://chicago.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/classy-courtesan-nodrama-norus/125754713695She got me once for a decent chunk. Anyone actually ever seen her? Would love to play it a different angle and actually get the dream I was promised LOL.
She got me once for a decent chunk. Anyone actually ever seen her? Would love to play it a different angle and actually get the dream I was promised LOL.Not really a shot at you but you can't reward bad behavior even if she scams on incalls but doesn't scam on outcalls let's say. Don't support scammers in anyway, report and move on.
https://adultsearch.com/illinois/chicago/female-escorts/2642776
Leilani came by my place of residence we had scheduled our appointment for 930 pm but she didn't arrive until 1120 pm. She walked in the door and was very nice but smelled of cigarettes, weed, and liquor. We continued our session in my living room where she wanted to dance a little, so she did but as soon as she started she wanted to keep drinking, so she asked for alcohol, no problem there. She then proceeded to ask if I had weed a d I responded with no. She then asked if I had cigarettes. Say no. She will smoke all of your cigarettes if she could. She continued dancing and then had to sit down because she was too intoxicated. Ridiculous. Needless to say I never got anything out of our appointment, she was too intoxicated, never got to see any of her if you know why I mean. She was a complete waste of time especially for the donation she was asking. After she saw that I was having a terrible time she had the audacity to ask if I would like to extend the session. Of course I responded right away with No. Please do not waste your time and money. She said she also works in Vegas, where she is originally from. Keep an eye out for this woman and steer clear. The only positive thing I can say is that she was nice.How much did you spend?
She got me once for a decent chunk. Anyone actually ever seen her? Would love to play it a different angle and actually get the dream I was promised LOL.Once upon a time she was legit and actually a really good time. She was my regular, even. Totally open menu and had an incredible ass for a white chick. One of my favorite sights was watching her pussy foam up my bare cock while her perfectly formed ass backed up against me. She was down for any fantasy or roleplay I could think of and was very video friendly.
But she hasn't been legit since the pandemic started. I don't think I've read a single review in almost two years that said she was anything but a scam. I would just leave it alone.
Member #6913
11-27-21, 12:13
Once upon a time she was legit and actually a really good time. She was my regular, even. Totally open menu and had an incredible ass for a white chick. One of my favorite sights was watching her pussy foam up my bare cock while her perfectly formed ass backed up against me. She was down for any fantasy or roleplay I could think of and was very video friendly.
But she hasn't been legit since the pandemic started. I don't think I've read a single review in almost two years that said she was anything but a scam. I would just leave it alone.Last February she got me for a whopping amount, there were so many quality reviews, she agreed to let me film, bought a costume as requested. This was set up days in advance, we communicated up until the time of arrival. Ghosted me with some sob story, I'm we kept in touch as she was sooooo "apologetic" blah blah blah. Would love to be able and see her once with out deposit, and give her the casual surprise it's me. A) return the donation or B) let's just get this down now and services rendered LOL.
George Stark
12-04-21, 15:29
Re: Mochaa:
I've seen her ads on LC plenty of times and I was definitely interested but after reading your review I'm absolutely going to avoid.
Thanks George.Good move. It's clear to me that that biatch will agree to anything to get the money, then come through on little if anything. The excuses she gave were complete bullshit, she's been doing this long enough to know her limits.
George Stark
12-06-21, 07:19
This one hasn't ripped me off, but she's sure trying. Probably doesn't even know that page exists. I'm just going to guess that she's not even in this state.
https://escortbabylon.net/posts_list/3124802882/1
Separate point: I can't get a negative comment or review to stick on LC to save my life. Anyone else having this?
This one hasn't ripped me off, but she's sure trying. Probably doesn't even know that page exists. I'm just going to guess that she's not even in this state.
https://escortbabylon.net/posts_list/3124802882/1
Separate point: I can't get a negative comment or review to stick on LC to save my life. Anyone else having this?Yeah, it's almost impossible to say anything negative in any detail on that site and if you keep trying you'll get banned.
StanleyStankas
12-07-21, 12:36
Yeah, it's almost impossible to say anything negative in any detail on that site and if you keep trying you'll get banned.Tried to help someone out from here and was just reporting it on there. So since no good deed goes unpunished I was banned. Well try another server, email, handle, etc and you're back in. Been so long since I have checked in over there though. Now I know just to mind my own business when it comes to info I do not have first hand info regarding a provider.
Long time lurker, first time poster;.
https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/illinois/chicago/71697502
Set up a meeting with Bianca yesterday, few days in advance for 3 pm, she asked for a deposit, not a big one so I obliged as she had a lot of solid reviews here. Waited around for an hour and a half, didn't get a response till I was leaving saying she was on her way from the city. Asked for my deposit back -She told me she was sorry, and that she was a pro etc. And we could set up another arrangement.
Pure ghost after that, CashApp user name has changed and ignored since.
Sad to hear it, seems like she was once a good time.
StanleyStankas
12-13-21, 09:25
Long time lurker, first time poster;.
https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/illinois/chicago/71697502
Set up a meeting with Bianca yesterday, few days in advance for 3 pm, she asked for a deposit, not a big one so I obliged as she had a lot of solid reviews here. Waited around for an hour and a half, didn't get a response till I was leaving saying she was on her way from the city. Asked for my deposit back -She told me she was sorry, and that she was a pro etc. And we could set up another arrangement.
Pure ghost after that, CashApp user name has changed and ignored since.
Sad to hear it, seems like she was once a good time.Her in that maybe one day (probably not though) these c**ts will realize that they could make so much more and possibly get out of the biz if they would only do what they said they would do. How much scam money can she accumulate as opposed to actually doing the deed and be done?
Diversey & Laramie is not "the hood." Yes, it is a primarily Latino neighborhood but is not a dangerous area by any means compared to Lincoln Park or Wicker Park. In fact, you are more likely to be robbed in those neighborhoods.
Type in 2800 and Laramie and compare it to 600 W Webster or 1600 and Damen.
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Stop scaring people, just use common sense out there.While the area isn't say, little village or back of the yards, Belmont cragin neighborhood south of Belmont is nothing more than a well manicured hood. And there's nothing wrong with stating that. Keeps the yuppies from pushing across Pulaski LOL if I screenshotted my Real time crime reports from the Citizens App the amount of shots fired reports alone would resemble englewood or some shit. You can raise a family in that area, but the area does have its hidden problems like any other underserved minority neighborhood.
Long time lurker, first time poster;.
https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/illinois/chicago/71697502
Set up a meeting with Bianca yesterday, few days in advance for 3 pm, she asked for a deposit, not a big one so I obliged as she had a lot of solid reviews here. Waited around for an hour and a half, didn't get a response till I was leaving saying she was on her way from the city. Asked for my deposit back -She told me she was sorry, and that she was a pro etc. And we could set up another arrangement.
Pure ghost after that, CashApp user name has changed and ignored since.
Sad to hear it, seems like she was once a good time.Will you guys please stop sending deposits. These women realize that with ads in several cities they can work the phones never meet a client in person again and scam enough money to get buy.
George Stark
12-26-21, 20:00
And ditto with OF subscriptions for Escorts. There's plenty of porn for free, we don't need to pay escorts *not* to meet us. See attached for correct response. I probably should have been more emphatic and profane, but that would have taken another second or 2.
That was this chick:
https://listcrawler.eu/last_phone_post/7086490948
Hot and conveniently located. But a hard pass.
May not be an actual ripoff, but could well be a complete waste of time and money, biotch wants $45 for a mont's subscription, FUKK THAT.
Will you guys please stop sending deposits. These women realize that with ads in several cities they can work the phones never meet a client in person again and scam enough money to get buy.
Responded to an ad and corresponded via SnapChat with a potential cute provider.
The SnapChat should have been the give away. She asked for deposit bc she has been ripped off.
I continued to chat with her and said no, I would pay cash. She said yes.
She has a legitimate price point in her rates and I was hoping I found a diamond in the rough.
Get there at the agreed time and it is back to the deposit, CashApp, PayPal and Zelle or go buy a gift card.
Anyway I only wasted a half hour. There is another provider in the Clark / Belmont area that had an opening.
For your viewing pleasure.
Phone is 256-361- at #07.
Responded to an ad and corresponded via SnapChat with a potential cute provider.
The SnapChat should have been the give away. She asked for deposit bc she has been ripped off.
I continued to chat with her and said no, I would pay cash. She said yes.
She has a legitimate price point in her rates and I was hoping I found a diamond in the rough.
Get there at the agreed time and it is back to the deposit, CashApp, PayPal and Zelle or go buy a gift card.
Anyway I only wasted a half hour. There is another provider in the Clark / Belmont area that had an opening.
For your viewing pleasure.
Phone is 256-361- at #07.You should have known from the pictures. The pictures are of a very popular poster on Reddit.com.
Responded to an ad and corresponded via SnapChat with a potential cute provider.
The SnapChat should have been the give away. She asked for deposit bc she has been ripped off.
I continued to chat with her and said no, I would pay cash. She said yes.
She has a legitimate price point in her rates and I was hoping I found a diamond in the rough.
Get there at the agreed time and it is back to the deposit, CashApp, PayPal and Zelle or go buy a gift card.
Anyway I only wasted a half hour. There is another provider in the Clark / Belmont area that had an opening.
For your viewing pleasure.
Phone is 256-361- at #07.I would be cautious about any so called girls in that area. Boystown is one block east of that location.
LongDStyle
01-28-22, 09:33
I would be cautious about any so called girls in that area. Boystown is one block east of that location.What's wrong with seeing girls in the boystown / Wrigleyville area?
What's wrong with seeing girls in the boystown / Wrigleyville area?They might be Tgirls is the implication.
LongDStyle
01-29-22, 12:23
They might be Tgirls is the implication.One of my ATFs lived in boystown, she had a child so there is no doubt in my mind her original gender. Only other woman I saw in the area was a body rub girl I saw when I was a newb. From my research they are out here tho some posing as regular girls. There was one posting in the Albany Park area that was attractive (Hispanic I believe) and I only noticed she was a TS because an alternate website I saw her posted on she admitted to being one but never did on LC, she never posted in the TS section either on LC. Based on reviews I'm guessing she had a full working vag as she allowed BBFS. I almost admittedly took the plunge but she raised her rates considerably which caused me to change my mind. Only after finding out awhile later she was TS did I revisit her pics and see subtly the masculine undertones.
George Stark
01-30-22, 00:56
Ripoff biotch with new number.
As I previously reported here:
http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?7600-Ripoff-Reports&p=5626467&viewfull=1#post5626467
This biotch will agree to anything to get the money, then will honor none of it.
Plus there's a second biotch showing there, too. AVOID!
New link with number.
https://escortbabylon.net/posts_list/7739864476/1
BeechNut79
01-30-22, 21:11
Responded to an ad and corresponded via SnapChat with a potential cute provider.
The SnapChat should have been the give away. She asked for deposit bc she has been ripped off.
I continued to chat with her and said no, I would pay cash. She said yes.
She has a legitimate price point in her rates and I was hoping I found a diamond in the rough.
Get there at the agreed time and it is back to the deposit, CashApp, PayPal and Zelle or go buy a gift card.
Anyway I only wasted a half hour. There is another provider in the Clark / Belmont area that had an opening.
For your viewing pleasure.
Phone is 256-361- at #07.Might Inask what name she goes by on there?
PussyEater96
02-09-22, 20:57
Can't get any type of comments to stick or have favorite girls.
Then where I check for girls Rockford IL there's at times crossovers from Chicago page. This wouldn't be a issue for fact that 90% of those girls are Chicago only. Than that leads to comments of slander to the girls when they themselves didn't know their ad is in Rockford or Wisconsin page.
Yeah, it's almost impossible to say anything negative in any detail on that site and if you keep trying you'll get banned.
LongDStyle
02-15-22, 08:56
Expressed interest with her and decided to do an incall. She asks my location which was irrelevant since I'm coming to her. She's not in the greatest area (west side) but I was near her location. She tells me half hour is only a hundo. Anyway the red flag came when she asked for a deposit which makes no sense especially from an indie. Appears to be a first time poster. Don't fall for it. I thought the donation was already TGTBT. Never send deposits especially and I mean especially if you are the one traveling or if you are sending them transportation. This person also kept messaging me after I decided not to get scammed.
https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/illinois/chicago/75262838
George Stark
02-15-22, 21:16
Ripoff biotch with yet another new number. Keeps changing numbers.
As I previously reported here:
http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?7600-Ripoff-Reports&p=5626467&viewfull=1#post5626467
This biotch will agree to anything to get the money, then will honor none of it.
Plus there's a second biotch showing there, too. AVOID!
New link with number.
https://escortbabylon.net/posts_list/3128132473/1
Irving Park
02-20-22, 23:47
Long time lurker, first time poster. Unfortunately my first post about last night is a rip off but I had a better experience today which I will also post. It was 15 degrees, I was horny and I don't have a car so I decided to have some cutie come over to service me. I had been wanting to try Viviana, who has 32 five star reviews, for some time. She explained she could be here in an hour but needed a $30 deposit. I said I have paid a lot of women for sex but I have never paid a deposit for the obvious reason. She said she would never take a risk with her reputation what with all the reviews. I agreed. It made sense. You will never believe what happened. Any way, I was pissed, not about the money because it was only $30, but because it was so late and I was tired at that point and didn't want to call someone else to come over and wait for her. It seems pretty tough to get an outcall these days without paying a deposit (at least for someone half way good looking). Anyways, here she is https://listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/illinois/chicago/73500077?origin_place=eb_provider_list. I hope I don't ruin her reputation.
Long time lurker, first time poster. Unfortunately my first post about last night is a rip off but I had a better experience today which I will also post. It was 15 degrees, I was horny and I don't have a car so I decided to have some cutie come over to service me. I had been wanting to try Viviana, who has 32 five star reviews, for some time. She explained she could be here in an hour but needed a $30 deposit. I said I have paid a lot of women for sex but I have never paid a deposit for the obvious reason. She said she would never take a risk with her reputation what with all the reviews. I agreed. It made sense. You will never believe what happened. Any way, I was pissed, not about the money because it was only $30, but because it was so late and I was tired at that point and didn't want to call someone else to come over and wait for her. It seems pretty tough to get an outcall these days without paying a deposit (at least for someone half way good looking). Anyways, here she is https://listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/illinois/chicago/73500077?origin_place=eb_provider_list. I hope I don't ruin her reputation.What did you expect. You paid a deposit. Idiot.
I had been wanting to try Viviana, who has 32 five star reviews, for some time. She explained she could be here in an hour but needed a $30 deposit. I said I have paid a lot of women for sex but I have never paid a deposit for the obvious reason. She said she would never take a risk with her reputation what with all the reviews. I agreed. It made sense. You will never believe what happened Oh I think we would.
Anyway, there's no point in shaming you over this because you clearly get it now, but there are several girls who were legit (and sometimes still are legit) who do these deposit scams. Sometimes they see an opportunity, sometimes is a need for quick cash, sometimes it's the addiction, but just because they have good reviews (assuming they're real reviews) still doesn't mean it's a good idea to give them a deposit.
The only exception I have ever made (and it was only once) was with a higher end girl. She was p411, had a pretty significant social media presence, had strong reviews by reputable reviewers on other sites, etc.
This girl is a ghost outside of Listcrawler. LC is too fringe to ever trust, and they rarely allow negative reviews. That is always a hard no for me.
LongDStyle
02-21-22, 14:01
Long time lurker, first time poster. Unfortunately my first post about last night is a rip off but I had a better experience today which I will also post. It was 15 degrees, I was horny and I don't have a car so I decided to have some cutie come over to service me. I had been wanting to try Viviana, who has 32 five star reviews, for some time. She explained she could be here in an hour but needed a $30 deposit. I said I have paid a lot of women for sex but I have never paid a deposit for the obvious reason. She said she would never take a risk with her reputation what with all the reviews. I agreed. It made sense. You will never believe what happened. Any way, I was pissed, not about the money because it was only $30, but because it was so late and I was tired at that point and didn't want to call someone else to come over and wait for her. It seems pretty tough to get an outcall these days without paying a deposit (at least for someone half way good looking). Anyways, here she is https://listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/illinois/chicago/73500077?origin_place=eb_provider_list. I hope I don't ruin her reputation.If you've been lurking long enough or even a for a but you should know that sending deposits is never going to turn out the way you want unless you like throwing money out the window. I can also say that as someone who primarily sees women by outcall that I’ve never paid a deposit and I’ve had many attractive and above average looking women come to my place. Paying deposits changes the game and I’m seeing more and more women that never even mentioned them now making it mandatory. Once I see the word deposit mentioned in an ad or while we communicate I move on. I tell them I can only do cash.
George Stark
02-21-22, 17:02
... sometimes it's the addiction, but just because they have good reviews (assuming they're real reviews) still doesn't mean it's a good idea to give them a deposit.
The only exception I have ever made (and it was only once) was with a higher end girl. She was p411, had a pretty significant social media presence, had strong reviews by reputable reviewers on other sites, etc.
.Ditto to both. We increasingly hear of things going south with well reviewed girls. Especially LC reviews. On oThER site, you can see if a reviewer is real, on LC, much more difficult. Have to rely on memory / manually kept history.
I paid a 100 deposit to see Mya Michelle, and it worked ok. Not a bad time, but not a great connection, so probably won't repeat. (At 3, maybe, at 5 no.) But that's the level of presence and reviews all over that I need to see to even think of doing a deposit.
LongDStyle
02-21-22, 19:31
Look up the story of Grant Amato. Guy was sending thousands of dollars plus clothes and sex toys to some cam model he never met. Ended up killing his entire family to feed his addiction. It's guys like this more and more that women hear about that they feel they can live and not have any physical interaction with us and still get paid. I heard a girl on one app say "it's 2020, a girl would have to be a dummy to have sex for cash", she went on to talk about guys who paid her thousands for feet pics or hundreds for panties of a picture of her taking a dump. This ignores the fact that a lot of these women don't enjoy meeting random men let alone having sex with them. After hearing a story like Grant Amato, I'm sure the cam model he was sending money too is glad she never met him anyway. If a woman wants to make money off men without doing them then she can work a strip club. We are in a very pivotal time period in this hobby as there are a lot of new factors coming into place that are changing things forever. We should be the ones to dictate that as we are the consumers. Don't let these ladies set the rules, just move on and let your money do the voting.
Long time lurker, first time poster. Unfortunately my first post about last night is a rip off but I had a better experience today which I will also post. It was 15 degrees, I was horny and I don't have a car so I decided to have some cutie come over to service me. I had been wanting to try Viviana, who has 32 five star reviews, for some time. She explained she could be here in an hour but needed a $30 deposit. I said I have paid a lot of women for sex but I have never paid a deposit for the obvious reason. She said she would never take a risk with her reputation what with all the reviews. I agreed. It made sense. You will never believe what happened. Any way, I was pissed, not about the money because it was only $30, but because it was so late and I was tired at that point and didn't want to call someone else to come over and wait for her. It seems pretty tough to get an outcall these days without paying a deposit (at least for someone half way good looking). Anyways, here she is https://listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/illinois/chicago/73500077?origin_place=eb_provider_list. I hope I don't ruin her reputation.Don't even begin to worry about her reputation.
I inquired about her several months ago on the forum and everyone who replied questioned her feminity or lack there of.
Since she was close to home I decided to check her out anyhow. Set up a time, typical 2 call set up, comes appt. Time, she doesn't answer, calls back 20 minutes later saying she was ready, but required a deposit, I refused, she bitched and moaned and tried to double her rate, I said see ya!
Probably one of my better decisions in the mongering world.
Also claimed that she worked out a nice condo and wasn't a cheap motel tramp. Yet she's doing car dates til 3:30 am?
Sorry for your loss, but you' re probably better off.
Don't even begin to worry about her reputation.
I inquired about her several months ago on the forum and everyone who replied questioned her feminity or lack there of.
Since she was close to home I decided to check her out anyhow. Set up a time, typical 2 call set up, comes appt. Time, she doesn't answer, calls back 20 minutes later saying she was ready, but required a deposit, I refused, she bitched and moaned and tried to double her rate, I said see ya!
Probably one of my better decisions in the mongering world.
Also claimed that she worked out a nice condo and wasn't a cheap motel tramp. Yet she's doing car dates til 3:30 am?
Sorry for your loss, but you' re probably better off.This is seriously turning into the movie Idiocracy. In case you don't know look up the prostitute scene. Damn girl I'd pay you for tomorrow.
BeechNut79
02-22-22, 23:36
Look up the story of Grant Amato. Guy was sending thousands of dollars plus clothes and sex toys to some cam model he never met. Ended up killing his entire family to feed his addiction. It's guys like this more and more that women hear about that they feel they can live and not have any physical interaction with us and still get paid. I heard a girl on one app say "it's 2020, a girl would have to be a dummy to have sex for cash", she went on to talk about guys who paid her thousands for feet pics or hundreds for panties of a picture of her taking a dump. This ignores the fact that a lot of these women don't enjoy meeting random men let alone having sex with them. After hearing a story like Grant Amato, I'm sure the cam model he was sending money too is glad she never met him anyway. If a woman wants to make money off men without doing them then she can work a strip club. We are in a very pivotal time period in this hobby as there are a lot of new factors coming into place that are changing things forever. We should be the ones to dictate that as we are the consumers. Don't let these ladies set the rules, just move on and let your money do the voting.Would enjoy hearing some of your thoughts as to what you feel the new trends will be. I have pointed out before that many SWs act as though we work for them when in actuality they work for us. But they probably do need to establish some guidelines so they won't get totally taken advantage of.
Would enjoy hearing some of your thoughts as to what you feel the new trends will be. I have pointed out before that many SWs act as though we work for them when in actuality they work for us. But they probably do need to establish some guidelines so they won't get totally taken advantage of.This is probably not the best forum for this discussion, but IMO it is going to keep getting worse as long as guys are willing to pay $500+ for mediocre looking girls. It's a chain reaction that goes all the way down to the SW. I have the extra cash to blow too, but I will not pay that much for pussy. I remember only about 2 years ago, Macie was only asking around $200 for an hour. Now you have pigs asking that much for a half hour. Like Nancy Reagan used to say: Just Say No!
LongDStyle
02-23-22, 10:02
This is probably not the best forum for this discussion, but IMO it is going to keep getting worse as long as guys are willing to pay $500+ for mediocre looking girls. It's a chain reaction that goes all the way down to the SW. I have the extra cash to blow too, but I will not pay that much for pussy. I remember only about 2 years ago, Macie was only asking around $200 for an hour. Now you have pigs asking that much for a half hour. Like Nancy Reagan used to say: Just Say No!
It’s the deposits, paying for subscriptions on content before meeting women as a requirement or as means of verification, guys seeking financial domination (with no sexual interaction) and other forms of payment not involving interaction that are killing the hobby in my opinion. Some of those women you describe are no good for the hobby either. But they may charge more to be low volume. It works as long as there’s still not a boatload of men knocking down the door else they will continue to see her rates rise.
LongDStyle
02-23-22, 10:07
Would enjoy hearing some of your thoughts as to what you feel the new trends will be. I have pointed out before that many SWs act as though we work for them when in actuality they work for us. But they probably do need to establish some guidelines so they won't get totally taken advantage of.Yes indeed. But there are guys arguing that we shouldn't complain that we aren't paying the same for a hhr as we did 5-10 years ago and it should be expected. But as you mentioned it goes back to looks at its root. There are some drugged out, overweight, below average women demanding regular rates and that's fine but it should be the norm. Someone is forking over this money when you contact a girl like that and a week later she's already raising her rates. There have been plenty of women I've checked on that were very attractive and expensive and I contacted them months or a year later and not only do their rates drop but their menu expands. I don't go for the less attractive ones but my having a conversation with the more attractive ones I see, I often see them drop their rates because of low volume due to many thinking they are scams, catfish or set ups.
But I see this hobby trending in the direction where the influx of new girls coming in will be less and less. This new generation is too aware of cashapp, zelle, PayPal, chime and other electronic payment and along with only fans, Snapchat and other sites which negate physical interaction with guys who are willing to send money to someone they've never encountered, these women more and more will look to get money without any promise of meeting them. More women are transitioning into selling content. These women are in it for the money, not sex. If they can get money from you without having to perform then like in human nature they will do the least amount required. Even if only 10% of men in this hobby are seeking non physical interaction, if enough money can be made by it then why would they go thru the regular risk most providers do.
BeechNut79
02-23-22, 10:33
Yes indeed. But there are guys arguing that we shouldn't complain that we aren't paying the same for a hhr as we did 5-10 years ago and it should be expected. But as you mentioned it goes back to looks at its root. There are some drugged out, overweight, below average women demanding regular rates and that's fine but it should be the norm. Someone is forking over this money when you contact a girl like that and a week later she's already raising her rates. There have been plenty of women I've checked on that were very attractive and expensive and I contacted them months or a year later and not only do their rates drop but their menu expands. I don't go for the less attractive ones but my having a conversation with the more attractive ones I see, I often see them drop their rates because of low volume due to many thinking they are scams, catfish or set ups.
But I see this hobby trending in the direction where the influx of new girls coming in will be less and less. This new generation is too aware of cashapp, zelle, PayPal, chime and other electronic payment and along with only fans, Snapchat and other sites which negate physical interaction with guys who are willing to send money to someone they've never encountered, these women more and more will look to get money without any promise of meeting them. More women are transitioning into selling content. These women are in it for the money, not sex. If they can get money from you without having to perform then like in human nature they will do the least amount required. Even if only 10% of men in this hobby are seeking non physical interaction, if enough money can be made by it then why would they go thru the regular risk most providers do.Repeat tag line here. After getting burned once by the gift card thing, and most on this forum are adamant against doing this, I would say right out that I will not do anything with these outfits as folks here and elsewhere state that they are nearly always scams. Too bad that the original Backpage got careless, as it was much better as you could actually talk to the ladies. And to me that's another one for legalization or at least decriminalization, as then we could wipe the scammers off the map.
While we're at it, do you feel that sex work will ever be legal in most if not all of the US? So far efforts to do so have failed to bear fruit. Isn't it time that the PTB realize that prohibition of this activity hasn't worked any more than it did with liquor a century ago?
This is probably not the best forum for this discussion, but IMO it is going to keep getting worse as long as guys are willing to pay $500+ for mediocre looking girls. It's a chain reaction that goes all the way down to the SW. I have the extra cash to blow too, but I will not pay that much for pussy. I remember only about 2 years ago, Macie was only asking around $200 for an hour. Now you have pigs asking that much for a half hour. Like Nancy Reagan used to say: Just Say No!Nothing like picking up a deli clerk to wrap up my sausage and have her tenderize it! Games are ridiculous and prices are going through the roof! My last deli excursion started off this way. "How much for two large breasts and two juicy thighs"? Deli clerk: "That'll be 8. 99". Me: " Do you have take out"? Her (the 175#, 40 DDD, homely looking clerk: " That'll be one hundred". That was about six years ago. Last night (around closing time), same schpiel only I had to take her for coffee to feel me out. Two bills for BBBJ and cfs. Not bad and left drained. The only drawback was she smelt like pickled herring after we were done!
Degenerate1776
02-24-22, 10:25
This is probably not the best forum for this discussion, but IMO it is going to keep getting worse as long as guys are willing to pay $500+ for mediocre looking girls. It's a chain reaction that goes all the way down to the SW. I have the extra cash to blow too, but I will not pay that much for pussy. I remember only about 2 years ago, Macie was only asking around $200 for an hour. Now you have pigs asking that much for a half hour. Like Nancy Reagan used to say: Just Say No!It's really crazy what some really poor looking women are asking for these days. Not to mention, ads are talking about all the things they won't do, wants deposits, and ridiculous rates. What a shitty timeline.
This is probably not the best forum for this discussion, but IMO it is going to keep getting worse as long as guys are willing to pay $500+ for mediocre looking girls. It's a chain reaction that goes all the way down to the SW. I have the extra cash to blow too, but I will not pay that much for pussy. I remember only about 2 years ago, Macie was only asking around $200 for an hour. Now you have pigs asking that much for a half hour. Like Nancy Reagan used to say: Just Say No!If anyone is willing to pay 500 or more, I strongly suggest going with agency girls. Most of these independent females are simply not worth the prices they are asking for. At least with an agency, like Alena Chicago, you pretty much know what you're getting, the prices are more consistent and there's probably less chance of one getting scammed. In fact, I honestly wouldn't even considering going over 400 with an independent female with only a few exceptions. And that's only because they used to work for agencies and have extremely good reviews.
And one last reminder. No deposits!
If anyone is willing to pay 500 or more, I strongly suggest going with agency girls. Most of these independent females are simply not worth the prices they are asking for. At least with an agency, like Alena Chicago, you pretty much know what you're getting, the prices are more consistent and there's probably less chance of one getting scammed. In fact, I honestly wouldn't even considering going over 400 with an independent female with only a few exceptions. And that's only because they used to work for agencies and have extremely good reviews.
And one last reminder. No deposits!Thank you as someone who is new to to this site are websites like alenachicago legit? I'm been trying to research escorts off of twitter, P411, TER, and eros. What would be your process of determining which are real or which are fake / cops.
OldManDupage
03-11-22, 09:51
She asked to send a deposit before meeting. Liked her pictures and sent the deposit. Asked if she was ready for me to come after I sent the deposit then all of a sudden my calls went to voicemail. Don't trust this one. Scammed me out of 50 bucks. Sticking to my regulars from now on.
LongDStyle
03-13-22, 17:47
She asked to send a deposit before meeting. Liked her pictures and sent the deposit. Asked if she was ready for me to come after I sent the deposit then all of a sudden my calls went to voicemail. Don't trust this one. Scammed me out of 50 bucks. Sticking to my regulars from now on.A link would help so we know who you're talking about. But can only blame yourself for sending that deposit. Let that be the last time. There are people making good money of deposits never providing a minute of service and are hiding behind fake pics.
Dr Manhattan
03-13-22, 18:09
She asked to send a deposit before meeting. Liked her pictures and sent the deposit. Asked if she was ready for me to come after I sent the deposit then all of a sudden my calls went to voicemail. Don't trust this one. Scammed me out of 50 bucks. Sticking to my regulars from now on.Never, ever advance any cash. Chances are that wasn't even a female in Chicago who scammed you. Online means it could be anyone, anywhere around the globe. Doesn't matter how well you feel you know the girl. It's a recipe for ruin.
I had one absolutely cute, absolutely young blond named Kat who was a trusted provider for more than one visit. The one time she needed cash first, she said she was going to run inside to her Grandmother's apartment to drop the money off. I was so dumb. Didn't know what apartment she went into and I guess it didn't matter because she never came back out, LOL.
StanleyStankas
03-13-22, 20:13
Never, ever advance any cash. Chances are that wasn't even a female in Chicago who scammed you. Online means it could be anyone, anywhere around the globe. Doesn't matter how well you feel you know the girl. It's a recipe for ruin.
I had one absolutely cute, absolutely young blond named Kat who was a trusted provider for more than one visit. The one time she needed cash first, she said she was going to run inside to her Grandmother's apartment to drop the money off. I was so dumb. Didn't know what apartment she went into and I guess it didn't matter because she never came back out, LOL.And that is an old cabbie trick that was played on me back in the day in the cruel hard chi town city. I"ll be right back with the money. Well firstly the address given was not where she was going. She went into the alley way between buildings, walked through the alley and away she went. Probably to her real building through the back a few buildings away. Live and learn. What doesn't kill you makes you stronger! Or so I have heard. Stosh be safe. p.s. also totally agree giving out a deposit is like flushing the money down the toilet except at least with the toilet one knows where it went!
https://milfy.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/illinois/chicago/77054679
After initial contact, trying to find out location, I was asked how long I wanted & do I have cash app.
My answer was no & whoever it was said bye.
I would avoid this one.
I feel like it is getting like you need to check this thread before you check the escort boards.
This link is to a scammer. The pictures are stolen from a cam model in Detroit.
I know this for a fact bc I know this cam model personally.
https://megapersonals.eu/public/post_detail/24331559
https://adultsearch.com/illinois/chicago/female-escorts/1995798
Called this one and made contact days later. Said to meet her at Lake St and 53. OH NO! Seniors should know what that is. Any way gets me to asking about all those gorgeous white girls on Adultsearch. Anyone have any luck with them other than the agency types? Some posts are like low cost, $170 for an hour with a a good looking twenty something girl. Tempting but radar goes off so I do not even want to call / text so they do not get my number. Just feels like greater chance of scam or LEO.
StanleyStankas
03-15-22, 09:51
I feel like it is getting like you need to check this thread before you check the escort boards.
This link is to a scammer. The pictures are stolen from a cam model in Detroit.
I know this for a fact bc I know this cam model personally.
https://megapersonals.eu/public/post_detail/24331559I am glad it is mentioned that the poster knows this girl personally as she should listen to him and then take appropriate action. The one time I called a supposed escort the scammer never removed the cam model's additional details so I called her. Been awhile so the details are fuzzy. The cam model acted like I didn't know what I was talking about and neither did she and on and on. So for me it was a case of no good deed goes unpunished. Again I hope that the model takes heed to someone who is attempting to help her out. Also agree in that stolen pictures, deposits and other assorted scams has become an epidemic these days. I always go back to my original comments in that we have the spendable cash or we would not be looking and responding on this site. If these dumb c**ts would just deliver what they say they will, use real pictures and keep the bf, pimp, hanger on er away from us they could make a decent sum of money without doing much except uncrossing their legs or opening their mouth. However, no they have to believe that oh they are so much smarter and slicker than we are they can scam us! Thanks for the post and the pic. Very cute lady BTW. Stosh.
I am glad it is mentioned that the poster knows this girl personally as she should listen to him and then take appropriate action. The one time I called a supposed escort the scammer never removed the cam model's additional details so I called her. Been awhile so the details are fuzzy. The cam model acted like I didn't know what I was talking about and neither did she and on and on. So for me it was a case of no good deed goes unpunished. Again I hope that the model takes heed to someone who is attempting to help her out. Also agree in that stolen pictures, deposits and other assorted scams has become an epidemic these days. I always go back to my original comments in that we have the spendable cash or we would not be looking and responding on this site. If these dumb c**ts would just deliver what they say they will, use real pictures and keep the bf, pimp, hanger on er away from us they could make a decent sum of money without doing much except uncrossing their legs or opening their mouth. However, no they have to believe that oh they are so much smarter and slicker than we are they can scam us! Thanks for the post and the pic. Very cute lady BTW. Stosh.Stosh, is it scamming, golden pussy or drugs that is destroying our hobby. I recently saw Madeline Moral. Cute but you can see that damage done in the time since the pictures were taken. Has a person there that leaves once you arrive. Pimp, BF or husband who knows. Her ask is 5$ and if she were straight she would be worth it, but damn the fentanyl opioid crisis really does hit home when you see a woman that is flushing her life away. Unfortunately, the state of the hobby's economy is driving me towards agency and travel experience. All I know is I have never seen it worse in Chicago.
JakeGoodfella
03-15-22, 13:41
https://adultsearch.com/illinois/chicago/female-escorts/1995798
Called this one and made contact days later. Said to meet her at Lake St and 53. OH NO! Seniors should know what that is. Any way gets me to asking about all those gorgeous white girls on Adultsearch. Anyone have any luck with them other than the agency types? Some posts are like low cost, $170 for an hour with a a good looking twenty something girl. Tempting but radar goes off so I do not even want to call / text so they do not get my number. Just feels like greater chance of scam or LEO.I always pass on contacting those beautiful white girls on AS. If the pics are high quality and the price is low ($200 or less), it has to be a scam or jack shack advert IMHO. On the rare occasion that one is real, you'd have to go through 50 fake ads before you found her. Juice isn't worth the squeeze to me.
I do think the girls in the body rub section of AS use their real pics more frequently, though you will still find several fakes.
-Jake.
LongDStyle
03-16-22, 07:23
And that is an old cabbie trick that was played on me back in the day in the cruel hard chi town city. I"ll be right back with the money. Well firstly the address given was not where she was going. She went into the alley way between buildings, walked through the alley and away she went. Probably to her real building through the back a few buildings away. Live and learn. What doesn't kill you makes you stronger! Or so I have heard. Stosh be safe. p.s. also totally agree giving out a deposit is like flushing the money down the toilet except at least with the toilet one knows where it went!Reminds me of one I saw probably 10 times or so, all great experiences. Even got a buddy and has us service us both for the same lost cost of 50 that we just split in half. Everything on the menu. Then one time had her meet me solo, again for 50 which she agreed to do for an overnight. She wanted to run next door and get some snacks for the night. Didn't have change and silly me gave her the whole 50 upfront. She left to the gas station. Several minutes went by and I knew it shouldn't have took that long. Walked next door and she was no where in sight. Gas station was literally next door and only 2 small aisles inside. Texted her and she responded she would be right back. Never seen or heard from her again which was fine. I ended up meeting one of my ATF that night which I replaced her with. She could've made much more but skipped town for a 50. Lesson learned but for a cheap sum I guess. But had she came back probably never would've met the other girl as she only posted a couple times ever.
George Stark
03-22-22, 22:49
https://escortbabylon.net/posts_list/8722336098/1
Goes by Leah.
This one is a complete assshole. Avoid. Also an obvious user, probably why she's so messed up.
I had actually seen her once before and she was cool, if troubled, so I wasn't prepared for this. She's Not at all cool anymore!
I walked in, put down for a half hour. She started cleaning up her place. White powder in plain sight. In spite of multiple requests, she would not get down to business for most of 25 minutes, had a shitty attitude. Then she started laying out the rules, and there were *lots* of them. Her reviews say BBBJ, and I'd gotten that previously, but that's sure as hell not happening now. During this discussion she got argumentative and then kicked me out, while keeping my money.
This might be intentional, as her business plan, but in any case she's got a really nasty personality and a *very* limited menu.
Take the oldest looking picture and add 5 - 10 *hard* years.
LongDStyle
03-23-22, 00:20
https://escortbabylon.net/posts_list/8722336098/1
Goes by Leah.
This one is a complete assshole. Avoid. Also an obvious user, probably why she's so messed up.
I had actually seen her once before and she was cool, if troubled, so I wasn't prepared for this. She's Not at all cool anymore!
I walked in, put down for a half hour. She started cleaning up her place. White powder in plain sight. In spite of multiple requests, she would not get down to business for most of 25 minutes, had a shitty attitude. Then she started laying out the rules, and there were *lots* of them. Her reviews say BBBJ, and I'd gotten that previously, but that's sure as hell not happening now. During this discussion she got argumentative and then kicked me out, while keeping my money.
This might be intentional, as her business plan, but in any case she's got a really nasty personality and a *very* limited menu.
Take the oldest looking picture and add 5 - 10 *hard* years.Wow I had been wanting to see her for the longest but she either doesn't respond or posts when I'm busy. Think you mayve saved me because she's been on my to do list. I've had my eye on her since she was doing incalls in the city. But come to think of it she's been using those same pics since the BP days which like over 5 years ago now like you suggest their age is. I'm actually still interested but there's plenty others I'll visit meanwhile. No need to reinforce her bad behavior. She needs less business to bring her back down to earth apparently. Maybe something new as I've never seen anything bad written of her review wise.
George Stark
03-23-22, 02:27
Wow I had been wanting to see her for the longest but she either doesn't respond or posts when I'm busy. Think you mayve saved me because she's been on my to do list. I've had my eye on her since she was doing incalls in the city. But come to think of it she's been using those same pics since the BP days which like over 5 years ago now like you suggest their age is. I'm actually still interested but there's plenty others I'll visit meanwhile. No need to reinforce her bad behavior. She needs less business to bring her back down to earth apparently. Maybe something new as I've never seen anything bad written of her review wise.Yeah, as I said, last August she was troubled, but basically cool. This time she had absolutely sh! T attitude from the word go and it just got worse. One of her reviews on LC reflects some of the crap I saw, though. She was so bad, he left before she finished blowing him, apparently.
Better to just avoid, IMO.
StanleyStankas
03-23-22, 13:06
Stosh, is it scamming, golden pussy or drugs that is destroying our hobby. I recently saw Madeline Moral. Cute but you can see that damage done in the time since the pictures were taken. Has a person there that leaves once you arrive. Pimp, BF or husband who knows. Her ask is 5$ and if she were straight she would be worth it, but damn the fentanyl opioid crisis really does hit home when you see a woman that is flushing her life away. Unfortunately, the state of the hobby's economy is driving me towards agency and travel experience. All I know is I have never seen it worse in Chicago.However, I am seeing the prices skyrocket especially on eros with the travelers. The one or two girls I still track that travel stay pretty consistent, however I just looked at one this morning on eros coming in in April and she was like $1. 2 k an hour! This is not a porn star as sometimes one will see that one agency that will advertise when girls are doing that porn convention up the street in rosemont. This was just an everyday traveler, albeit pix extremely hot. I think it might be a combo of the pandemic sort of done, still can't travel without the face diaper though, and also when it hit things dried up as the travelers just weren't traveling at all or at least as much. The chicago eros seems to be filling in again which is usually at least 3 pages. As far as the scams go they exist because we are dumb enough to fall for them. Been there done that, however if we out them enough and they see that we are it might have some effect. The problem is as I see it that they can say anything they want about us and we have little or nothing to say about them. I mean once one is blacklisted by them just try and have it removed. I keep telling that old tired story of mine about the pro I knew as a sort of friend. Once she got pissed at me I mean she unloaded all over the net about what she thought of me. I tried to remove it and some was, however most they just tell you to go pound sand!
StanleyStankas
03-23-22, 13:11
Reminds me of one I saw probably 10 times or so, all great experiences. Even got a buddy and has us service us both for the same lost cost of 50 that we just split in half. Everything on the menu. Then one time had her meet me solo, again for 50 which she agreed to do for an overnight. She wanted to run next door and get some snacks for the night. Didn't have change and silly me gave her the whole 50 upfront. She left to the gas station. Several minutes went by and I knew it shouldn't have took that long. Walked next door and she was no where in sight. Gas station was literally next door and only 2 small aisles inside. Texted her and she responded she would be right back. Never seen or heard from her again which was fine. I ended up meeting one of my ATF that night which I replaced her with. She could've made much more but skipped town for a 50. Lesson learned but for a cheap sum I guess. But had she came back probably never would've met the other girl as she only posted a couple times ever.Yep and your example is perfect textbook in that they would rather go for the fast nickel than the slow dime! It's like the shacks. If they wouldn't bait with all of they are going to offer and just say oh you must pay such and such and you will get such and such. However, no they lure you in with a fee under a hundred bucks and then say it's in the thousands for anything to happen! Ditto strip joints in most cases. It's like way long term stupid, however there really is no long term with these stupid c**ts. Sort of like my flea markets. There is no yesterday and there is not tomorrow so if one sees something, work the price out, grab it and go! One may ask what these dumb f**ks are thinking? Really they aren't so if one starts from that premise one can accept their behavior more easily imo. Be careful gents. They are indeed out there!
LongDStyle
03-24-22, 06:05
Yep and your example is perfect textbook in that they would rather go for the fast nickel than the slow dime! It's like the shacks. If they wouldn't bait with all of they are going to offer and just say oh you must pay such and such and you will get such and such. However, no they lure you in with a fee under a hundred bucks and then say it's in the thousands for anything to happen! Ditto strip joints in most cases. It's like way long term stupid, however there really is no long term with these stupid c**ts. Sort of like my flea markets. There is no yesterday and there is not tomorrow so if one sees something, work the price out, grab it and go! One may ask what these dumb f**ks are thinking? Really they aren't so if one starts from that premise one can accept their behavior more easily imo. Be careful gents. They are indeed out there!
Her name was America and she later started going by the name Star. Very cheap sessions. Druggie but hardly any marks, her smooth and clear skin was actually one of my things about her, very sexy body with an okay face. Operated on the west side. Really surprised she never had posted again which is why I figured she skipped town unless she's 6 feet under. I have a hard time believing she stopped posting only over my incident. But it goes to show these women will go off the radar at the snap of a finger. It seems the place I use to visit for incalls took a portion of her earnings and I don't think it was just for using their spot. It was an older lady that would come collect after I handed over the gifts.
StanleyStankas
03-24-22, 09:52
Her name was America and she later started going by the name Star. Very cheap sessions. Druggie but hardly any marks, her smooth and clear skin was actually one of my things about her, very sexy body with an okay face. Operated on the west side. Really surprised she never had posted again which is why I figured she skipped town unless she's 6 feet under. I have a hard time believing she stopped posting only over my incident. But it goes to show these women will go off the radar at the snap of a finger. It seems the place I use to visit for incalls took a portion of her earnings and I don't think it was just for using their spot. It was an older lady that would come collect after I handed over the gifts.Imo not so humble as usual I like to say- they never really quit the business (exceptions can be noted of course). The business quits them! Either the weight, drug marks, general craziness in the mind, what I refer to as the appendage I. E. Pimp, bf, assorted looking mooch, etc. Will cause them to disappear. My experience with an eros traveler has been there will be extended times when she just disappears and then reappear with of course a new handle, emails, phone numbers. I have been tracking her to the obsession point (perfect petite blonde under 5'3") for years so I know the pix instantly, however again at all levels of cash they never really quit. They can say anything and usually do. They share several things- it's quick money and they will not work a real job. It's too slow and confining. Their way is the only way! Thanks for the update and sorry for my usual old man rant. I get the senior citizen discount on words on here! Stosh. Safe please all!
https://escortbabylon.net/posts_list/8722336098/1
Goes by Leah.
This one is a complete assshole. Avoid. Also an obvious user, probably why she's so messed up.
I had actually seen her once before and she was cool, if troubled, so I wasn't prepared for this. She's Not at all cool anymore!
I walked in, put down for a half hour. She started cleaning up her place. White powder in plain sight. In spite of multiple requests, she would not get down to business for most of 25 minutes, had a shitty attitude. Then she started laying out the rules, and there were *lots* of them. Her reviews say BBBJ, and I'd gotten that previously, but that's sure as hell not happening now. During this discussion she got argumentative and then kicked me out, while keeping my money.
This might be intentional, as her business plan, but in any case she's got a really nasty personality and a *very* limited menu..I had a similar experience a while ago. I wouldn't consider it a ripoff, but definitely not something I'd ever repeat. She was actually pretty easy to schedule with via text, but then she told me she would be 15 minutes late when I got there. 30 minutes later, I was still waiting, and she said I could come up and wait in her room while she got ready. She proceeded to tell me her life story while she did random stuff around the room. An hour later, we finally got down to business and she immediately gives me a lecture about how she doesn't do BBBJ and that all of her reviews say that everything is covered. I basically didn't say anything while she rambled on, and eventually she just paused, looked at me, and then mumbled something about hooking me up this one time. She lubed me up, and then gave me the psycho stare while she broke down her list of rules (don't thrust, don't move, don't touch her head, etc). The actual BBBJ was actually really, really good. She went balls deep over and over again, and then licked my balls while deepthroating me when I asked. I told her I was going to cum thinking she wouldn't allow cim, but she started going balls deep again, and held her head all the way down while I pumped a load in her throat. I was getting ready for round 2, but she said she needed to run downstairs for some water. I was ok with it at first, but she started doing her fidgety thing around her room, and I realized I'd be waiting in her room for a long time. I told her that I was going to go even though I booked her for the hour and I had only gotten 30 minutes of service. She got very annoyed and argumentative. I have never met a girl that made a big deal out of me leaving early.
George Stark
03-25-22, 20:36
Leah, redux
She proceeded to tell me her life story while she did random stuff around the room. An hour later, we finally got down to business and she immediately gives me a lecture about how she doesn't do BBBJ and that all of her reviews say that everything is covered. ... She lubed me up, and then gave me the psycho stare while she broke down her list of rules (don't thrust, don't move, don't touch her head, etc). The actual BBBJ was actually really, really good.
... She got very annoyed and argumentative. I have never met a girl that made a big deal out of me leaving early.You've got *way* more patience than me. I was done waiting after 20 or so minutes of her talking about bullshit (allegedly managed to get a dishonorable discharge, for example) and cleaning up the room. No way I could ever put up with an hour of that. I let her know that, too. She wasn't even apologetic. If anything the opposite. Things just got worse when she started laying down the rules, she said nothing bare and I pointed out that she'd done a BBBJ on me last time I was there. She *really* didn't like that discussion.
But yeah, the argumentative part, very real. The psycho stare also. She's a biotch and she's fukking crazy, too, I don't think this ends well for some future visitor. She's on the edge of doing something terrible. She keeps this huge knife in the bathroom..
I'm glad I only paid for the half hour. But I got nothing, so absolutely a rippoff.
Luckily, I just went and saw Alizae. (If Alizae had answered her phone earlier, I wouldn't have even thought of seeing Leah.) Meanwhile, Leah's living in a *shit* motel sucking dicks until nobody wants her anymore, which will be much sooner than she thinks.
https://escortbabylon.net/posts_list/8722336098/1
Goes by Leah.
This one is a complete assshole. Avoid. Also an obvious user, probably why she's so messed up.
I had actually seen her once before and she was cool, if troubled, so I wasn't prepared for this. She's Not at all cool anymore!
I walked in, put down for a half hour. She started cleaning up her place. White powder in plain sight. In spite of multiple requests, she would not get down to business for most of 25 minutes, had a shitty attitude. Then she started laying out the rules, and there were *lots* of them. Her reviews say BBBJ, and I'd gotten that previously, but that's sure as hell not happening now. During this discussion she got argumentative and then kicked me out, while keeping my money.
This might be intentional, as her business plan, but in any case she's got a really nasty personality and a *very* limited menu.
Take the oldest looking picture and add 5 - 10 *hard* years.I've seen her before, a long time ago. Never bothered reviewing her because it was largely unremarkable. The only thing of interest was that when I saw her she had just run out of condoms and couldn't find any more after looking all over the place for a good 20 minutes. She finally gave up and gave me a BBBJ, which I was hoping for anyway. I couldn't really cum that way so I asked if she wanted to fuck and she said no. I kept offering her more and when I got to $60 extra she asked if I was clean and would promise not to cum in her. I agreed and she let me bareback her. It wasn't great because she kept pulling back thinking I was about to cum. When I was about to cum she pulled off too soon which ruined the orgasm.
Nothing special at all.
She proceeded to tell me her life story while she did random stuff around the room. An hour later, we finally got down to business I'm not a methhead so I really can't speak with any certainty about this behavior but it's certainly common. There are loads of distractions that seem to be necessary for the druggie. You can see this on chaturbate as well. The woman is about to do something like take off her bra and she starts doing her hair or moving things off the bed or putting on a different pair of shoes. Things that have nothing to do with taking off the bra. There is some kind of strange combo between a total lack of focus and a hyper focused attention on something that has nothing to do with the moment at hand.
StanleyStankas
03-26-22, 12:49
I'm not a methhead so I really can't speak with any certainty about this behavior but it's certainly common. There are loads of distractions that seem to be necessary for the druggie. You can see this on chaturbate as well. The woman is about to do something like take off her bra and she starts doing her hair or moving things off the bed or putting on a different pair of shoes. Things that have nothing to do with taking off the bra. There is some kind of strange combo between a total lack of focus and a hyper focused attention on something that has nothing to do with the moment at hand.Sounds obsessive compulsive as well. Straightening things out or moving something from one place to another and then back is also a sign. Now I am just another guy posting and know nothing about this, however I do know a few people that have mental disabilities and these traits are common.
https://www.adultlook.com/p/3161251 Is obviously a rip off, pictures are Olivia Casta from only fans at oliviacastaxx.
BeechNut79
03-27-22, 02:22
I've seen her before, a long time ago. Never bothered reviewing her because it was largely unremarkable. The only thing of interest was that when I saw her she had just run out of condoms and couldn't find any more after looking all over the place for a good 20 minutes. She finally gave up and gave me a BBBJ, which I was hoping for anyway. I couldn't really cum that way so I asked if she wanted to fuck and she said no. I kept offering her more and when I got to $60 extra she asked if I was clean and would promise not to cum in her. I agreed and she let me bareback her. It wasn't great because she kept pulling back thinking I was about to cum. When I was about to cum she pulled off too soon which ruined the orgasm.
Nothing special at all.Noticed that there is no contact information on the ad.
https://adultsearch.com/illinois/chicago/female-escorts/2613371
Reached out about services offered, general location, rates, etc. First reply was "do you have cash app or venmo?" Without answering any of my questions. Then it asked for full payment over cashapp or venmo before giving out address. Told the (probably Indian) scammer to fuck off and it replied with a request for a deposit. Called the scumbag scammer every name in the book and blocked the #.
This was such a blatant and obvious scam attempt. People actually fall for this stuff?
https://adultsearch.com/illinois/chicago/female-escorts/2613371
Reached out about services offered, general location, rates, etc. First reply was "do you have cash app or venmo?" Without answering any of my questions. Then it asked for full payment over cashapp or venmo before giving out address. Told the (probably Indian) scammer to fuck off and it replied with a request for a deposit. Called the scumbag scammer every name in the book and blocked the #.
This was such a blatant and obvious scam attempt. People actually fall for this stuff?If you're old enough you will remember pay phones on almost every street corner and in every building. Do you remember seeing some people always checking the coin return? How often did this result in a quarter or a nickel? My guess is not very often but you still had some people check everyone they would pass. It's probably the same mentality. A guy sets up some ads and phone numbers with an automated script. He invests maybe an hour of his time and 30 dollars. Then does nothing. Checks his cashapp accounts occasionally and is pleased to see 20 dollars here 50 dollars there. Maybe after a year he has 200 maybe 2000. Just profit after that initial investment. Just like the people checking the payphones he makes enough to make the effort worthwhile. Just my guess.
B.
If you're old enough you will remember pay phones on almost every street corner and in every building. Do you remember seeing some people always checking the coin return? How often did this result in a quarter or a nickel? My guess is not very often but you still had some people check everyone they would pass. It's probably the same mentality. A guy sets up some ads and phone numbers with an automated script. He invests maybe an hour of his time and 30 dollars. Then does nothing. Checks his cashapp accounts occasionally and is pleased to see 20 dollars here 50 dollars there. Maybe after a year he has 200 maybe 2000. Just profit after that initial investment. Just like the people checking the payphones he makes enough to make the effort worthwhile. Just my guess.
B.I suspect that as access to AI driven chat bots gets easier and cheaper, we will see WAY more of this.
LongDStyle
03-27-22, 14:49
I suspect that as access to AI driven chat bots gets easier and cheaper, we will see WAY more of this.Yes indeed, if you dialogue with some of these scams it's easy to see the response is either computer generated or the person doesn't have good English. Many girls don't like to show their face in real ads, so if the pictures are clear, professional grade and the rates really low it's a fake most likely. TGTBT. If she says the total is 100 and you need to send 20 for gas. Keep it moving. Might sound like a good deal but you will be empty handed with time wasted.
Watch out. I got burned for $. Bianca Dior. Phone number not working now but ended in 1158. I just don't want anyone else to get burned for deposit scams. Hopefully, I can get my $ back. We'll see.
StanleyStankas
03-31-22, 09:06
Yes indeed, if you dialogue with some of these scams it's easy to see the response is either computer generated or the person doesn't have good English. Many girls don't like to show their face in real ads, so if the pictures are clear, professional grade and the rates really low it's a fake most likely. TGTBT. If she says the total is 100 and you need to send 20 for gas. Keep it moving. Might sound like a good deal but you will be empty handed with time wasted.When in dialogue I have found one of the easiest ways to tell is when one is asking for specific services and they keep asking for cash app, cc info, et al just ask something completely out of context- so pigs really do fly and you walk on water or again it doesn't really matter just so it's off script and then when they stay in their or it's lane it's an easy giveaway.
Watch out. I got burned for $. Bianca Dior. Phone number not working now but ended in 1158. I just don't want anyone else to get burned for deposit scams. Hopefully, I can get my $ back. We'll see.You will never see that money again.
Sadly, you paid tuition at the school of hard knocks.
Please do remember the lesson well.
SfoDavid67
03-31-22, 12:10
Watch out. I got burned for $. Bianca Dior. Phone number not working now but ended in 1158. I just don't want anyone else to get burned for deposit scams. Hopefully, I can get my $ back. We'll see.Here is another scam to watch out for. A girl I recently saw did not have an in call, I refuse to do car dates, but since she was cute, blonde 19 yo willing for BBFSCIP I agreed to cover the cost of the hotel, and she would take it off my donation. I told her I will give her the CASH as I did NOT want the room in my name at all. She agreed. I sat on a couch across from the desk and she waved me up. The hotel wanted a credit card for a deposit, I stressed it was just for 1 night and the desk clerk said ok.
Well I am sure you can see where this is going, she ended up extending day by day for almost two weeks and ran up 1000's in room service charges. All in all I ended up with a $3500 bill on my visa. She used to advertise on Private Delights, so I left a scathing review, and she deleted her profile a couple of days later.
In hindsight I should have just paid the cash deposit and let her get that back in the end with no CC what so ever.
However to her credit, she sucked a cock like a leaf blower, she took a good pounding, and I shot a huge load in her pussy.
I did find her social media account but never went after her.
Al Melrose
03-31-22, 14:47
Here is another scam to watch out for. A girl I recently saw did not have an in call, I refuse to do car dates, but since she was cute, blonde 19 yo willing for BBFSCIP I agreed to cover the cost of the hotel, and she would take it off my donation. I told her I will give her the CASH as I did NOT want the room in my name at all. She agreed. I sat on a couch across from the desk and she waved me up. The hotel wanted a credit card for a deposit, I stressed it was just for 1 night and the desk clerk said ok.
Well I am sure you can see where this is going, she ended up extending day by day for almost two weeks and ran up 1000's in room service charges. All in all I ended up with a $3500 bill on my visa. She used to advertise on Private Delights, so I left a scathing review, and she deleted her profile a couple of days later.
In hindsight I should have just paid the cash deposit and let her get that back in the end with no CC what so ever.
However to her credit, she sucked a cock like a leaf blower, she took a good pounding, and I shot a huge load in her pussy.
I did find her social media account but never went after her.If you did not want it in your name, why did you use your CC. Plus you stated desk clerk waived the CC for deposit.
StanleyStankas
03-31-22, 15:22
Here is another scam to watch out for. A girl I recently saw did not have an in call, I refuse to do car dates, but since she was cute, blonde 19 yo willing for BBFSCIP I agreed to cover the cost of the hotel, and she would take it off my donation. I told her I will give her the CASH as I did NOT want the room in my name at all. She agreed. I sat on a couch across from the desk and she waved me up. The hotel wanted a credit card for a deposit, I stressed it was just for 1 night and the desk clerk said ok.
Well I am sure you can see where this is going, she ended up extending day by day for almost two weeks and ran up 1000's in room service charges. All in all I ended up with a $3500 bill on my visa. She used to advertise on Private Delights, so I left a scathing review, and she deleted her profile a couple of days later.
In hindsight I should have just paid the cash deposit and let her get that back in the end with no CC what so ever.
However to her credit, she sucked a cock like a leaf blower, she took a good pounding, and I shot a huge load in her pussy.
I did find her social media account but never went after her.Well at the least you got your rocks off! Could have been worse, not much but yea that will happen. Let's just say that some of these lovely and beautiful ladies aka dumb c**ts have not come from your better finishing schools! Honest? As the day is long. Oh that's in alaska during the season they never see the sun! Lesson learned. Would have like to been the fly on the wall when that $3. 5 k bill was explained to the significant other or on a business account. Stosh.
StanleyStankas
03-31-22, 15:25
You will never see that money again.
Sadly, you paid tuition at the school of hard knocks.
Please do remember the lesson well.Say that as well in my first post. Deep down I am sure he realizes all that now. Still waiting, still waiting, still waiting. Five years later? Still waiting!!
She probably has been at this motel / hotel before and knows how it operates. Probably not her first time doing this. The motel / hotel probably knows what she's doing. She makes money turning tricks. And the motel / hotel makes money off your credit card. A husband is going to have a rough time explaining this to the wife.
Here is another scam to watch out for. A girl I recently saw did not have an in call, I refuse to do car dates, but since she was cute, blonde 19 yo willing for BBFSCIP I agreed to cover the cost of the hotel, and she would take it off my donation. I told her I will give her the CASH as I did NOT want the room in my name at all. She agreed. I sat on a couch across from the desk and she waved me up. The hotel wanted a credit card for a deposit, I stressed it was just for 1 night and the desk clerk said ok.
Well I am sure you can see where this is going, she ended up extending day by day for almost two weeks and ran up 1000's in room service charges. All in all I ended up with a $3500 bill on my visa. She used to advertise on Private Delights, so I left a scathing review, and she deleted her profile a couple of days later.
In hindsight I should have just paid the cash deposit and let her get that back in the end with no CC what so ever.
However to her credit, she sucked a cock like a leaf blower, she took a good pounding, and I shot a huge load in her pussy.
I did find her social media account but never went after her.Had something very similar happen to me with a girl I had been seeing for nearly four years. It had turned into a quasi sugar relationship at this point with us getting together at least once a week, she was a young smoking hot blonde spinner and pretty much let me do whatever I wanted to her. One day she called me up saying she was at a friend's because she had gotten robbed by a client who stole her purse which had her cash, credit cards and I'd. She promised that if I could just get a room for her she'd get it switched to her name once her replacement stuff came in and I could see her for free until then. Dumbass that I am I went ahead and did it. She ended up staying there a few more months after telling me she got it switched over after a few days when what she actually was doing was just renewing it day after day and I was none the wiser cause she kept current on the bill. Then one night she had her ex over and her current boyfriend showed up (neither whom I knew about) and a huge fight broke out. They completely destroyed the room, someone threw a chair through the window, room was on the second floor, thousands in damages. Police got called, it was a hot mess for me for a while. Girl disappeared and dropped out of the business, she ghosted me and I haven't seen or heard from her since. Just goes to show that you can never trust these girls.
StanleyStankas
03-31-22, 18:11
Had something very similar happen to me with a girl I had been seeing for nearly four years. It had turned into a quasi sugar relationship at this point with us getting together at least once a week, she was a young smoking hot blonde spinner and pretty much let me do whatever I wanted to her. One day she called me up saying she was at a friend's because she had gotten robbed by a client who stole her purse which had her cash, credit cards and I'd. She promised that if I could just get a room for her she'd get it switched to her name once her replacement stuff came in and I could see her for free until then. Dumbass that I am I went ahead and did it. She ended up staying there a few more months after telling me she got it switched over after a few days when what she actually was doing was just renewing it day after day and I was none the wiser cause she kept current on the bill. Then one night she had her ex over and her current boyfriend showed up (neither whom I knew about) and a huge fight broke out. They completely destroyed the room, someone threw a chair through the window, room was on the second floor, thousands in damages. Police got called, it was a hot mess for me for a while. Girl disappeared and dropped out of the business, she ghosted me and I haven't seen or heard from her since. Just goes to show that you can never trust these girls.And mind fellas!! It's not if they go absolutely nuts it's when!! This I know first hand from that pro I got to know as a quote un quote friend. Nothing crazy money wise or any of that, however going for months of being super sweet and caring to an absolute nightmare!! Scary to the point of when it finally stopped I was relieved as for awhile she would not stop trashing me online and also with vm's. Stosh when in doubt do without.
LongDStyle
04-01-22, 02:55
You all have covered some good reasons as to never get a room in your name that you don't of can't check out yourself. But to go along with the situations and reasons you've laid it out it's important to note that some of these establishments communicate and coordinate and have been known to black list people. I haven't heard of a person been black listed or banned from an entire chain of hotels but in this hobby I have known of some to be banned from hotels in certain areas like around OHare, some of it is LEO related but in most cases some hotels have TVs same management or are "on the look out" for known trouble makers. I've had providers tell me to get the room and they will take it out the donation or offer me phenomenal service but I always pass. I'm more on the side of "what if her pimp steals the tv" or she overdoses and the room is in my name. Anytime I get a room in my name it's for me to stay overnight with a girl or have multiple come of I just get a short stay hourly rate especially if it's just one girl I'm seeing.
If a provider needs to use my room with my name on it then I feel as if I should get a cut. Else she must leave when I do. I’ve had rooms where I played for an hour left and turned the key in the next day. I’ve seen some of you split costs with other mongers on rooms which while still risky is better than trusting some skank and her Pandora’s box of a life on your credentials.
PartyTimeGuy
04-04-22, 09:52
You all have covered some good reasons as to never get a room in your name that you don't of can't check out yourself. But to go along with the situations and reasons you've laid it out it's important to note that some of these establishments communicate and coordinate and have been known to black list people. I haven't heard of a person been black listed or banned from an entire chain of hotels but in this hobby I have known of some to be banned from hotels in certain areas like around OHare, some of it is LEO related but in most cases some hotels have TVs same management or are "on the look out" for known trouble makers. I've had providers tell me to get the room and they will take it out the donation or offer me phenomenal service but I always pass. I'm more on the side of "what if her pimp steals the tv" or she overdoses and the room is in my name. Anytime I get a room in my name it's for me to stay overnight with a girl or have multiple come of I just get a short stay hourly rate especially if it's just one girl I'm seeing.
If a provider needs to use my room with my name on it then I feel as if I should get a cut. Else she must leave when I do. Ive had rooms where I played for an hour left and turned the key in the next day. Ive seen some of you split costs with other mongers on rooms which while still risky is better than trusting some skank and her Pandoras box of a life on your credentials.I once let a provider stay and use my hotel room after I left. She said she was between residences and really appreciated the help. She repaid the favor by having a huge party there and trashing the room. I was subsequently banned from that hotel chain. No good deed goes unpunished.
LongDStyle
04-04-22, 12:58
I once let a provider stay and use my hotel room after I left. She said she was between residences and really appreciated the help. She repaid the favor by having a huge party there and trashing the room. I was subsequently banned from that hotel chain. No good deed goes unpunished.Word of advice if anyone does this in the future, which I wouldn't suggest. But in the event someone does. Probably best not to do it at a chain to avoid having less lodging options in the future is to use a hotel / motel without other locations. Also low budget hotels have less things to take and their TVs are hard to steal. If there's anything like coffee pots, irons, remotes with you and put them back before you check out. You should be checking the room before you turn in the keys anyhow.
At check out close out your name and credit card from the room. If she wants the room to do more tricks let her register and pay for the room under her name and pay for the room with the money you paid her to play.
I wonder if the guys that let the girl keep the room in their name sweet talked and promised a discount or freebie on the next play time. I doubt the guys did this to be a nice. There had to be some incentive for the guys to do this.
At check out close out your name and credit card from the room. If she wants the room to do more tricks let her register and pay for the room under her name and pay for the room with the money you paid her to play.
I wonder if the guys that let the girl keep the room in their name sweet talked and promised a discount or freebie on the next play time. I doubt the guys did this to be a nice. There had to be some incentive for the guys to do this.The theory is that you offer to get the hotel and deduct the cost of the hotel from the fee. You tell her the fee is $150, you find a room for $75, and now you have a $75 discount on your fee. In exchange she gets an incall she can keep the rest of the night. In theory, everybody wins.
Of course as these stories show, theories can go up in smoke fast.
The theory is that you offer to get the hotel and deduct the cost of the hotel from the fee. You tell her the fee is $150, you find a room for $75, and now you have a $75 discount on your fee. In exchange she gets an incall she can keep the rest of the night. In theory, everybody wins.
Of course as these stories show, theories can go up in smoke fast.Make sure when you're done you close out your name and credit from the room. She can register and pay for the room in her name. Don't let her keep the room in your name. If you do you're responsible for extra days stayed and damages to the room.
LongDStyle
04-05-22, 00:27
The theory is that you offer to get the hotel and deduct the cost of the hotel from the fee. You tell her the fee is $150, you find a room for $75, and now you have a $75 discount on your fee. In exchange she gets an incall she can keep the rest of the night. In theory, everybody wins.
Of course as these stories show, theories can go up in smoke fast.Not really a discount if you're still coughing up 150. Unless the room has a security deposit, which many 75 buck rooms do buts only 10 bucks reimbursed. Seems she makes out on top because she's at minimum going to make 100 or so per monger that comes. However it goes tho it seems best if it goes this way to check the room out and check out yourself and not trust these girls. It's hard enough to get what you pay for. All it takes is one bad monger or miscommunication between her and him to cause conflict that could end up costing you. Remember even if you aren't around and something comes up crime wise, if your name is on the room it can get bad.
George Stark
04-05-22, 01:07
It has *always* been my rule: If the room is in my name, everyone leaves when I do. NO EXCEPTIONS, EVER.
George Stark
04-05-22, 02:26
Noticed that there is no contact information on the ad.Hilarious.
PartyTimeGuy
04-05-22, 09:52
It has *always* been my rule: If the room is in my name, everyone leaves when I do. NO EXCEPTIONS, EVER.Having been burned for being a softie it is my rule now too. No more Mr. Nice Guy. Once Bitten Twice Shy.
PartyTimeGuy
04-05-22, 10:04
https://www.adultlook.com/p/3161251 Is obviously a rip off, pictures are Olivia Casta from only fans at oliviacastaxx.What is "obvious" from pictures for some is unfortunately totally believable to others. And they get damn angry for having been dumb enough to be duped. Nothing is so stinging as a sting of the ego, especially after the "obvious" has been pointed out.
PartyTimeGuy
04-05-22, 10:32
At check out close out your name and credit card from the room. If she wants the room to do more tricks let her register and pay for the room under her name and pay for the room with the money you paid her to play.
I wonder if the guys that let the girl keep the room in their name sweet talked and promised a discount or freebie on the next play time. I doubt the guys did this to be a nice. There had to be some incentive for the guys to do this.In my case I did this one and only one time with a UTR I had been with before and thought I was helping her out of a jam as she was between residences. My point in all this is that no matter how well you think you know a provider, a woman who fucks for bucks can bite you hard when you aren't looking. Actually ANY woman can do that. See my recent posts on this elsewhere:
http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?8821-Ripoff-Reports&p=5856298&viewfull=1#post5856298.
http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4135-General-Reports&p=5855647&viewfull=1#post5855647
You all have covered some good reasons as to never get a room in your name that you don't of can't check out yourself. But to go along with the situations and reasons you've laid it out it's important to note that some of these establishments communicate and coordinate and have been known to black list people. I haven't heard of a person been black listed or banned from an entire chain of hotels but in this hobby I have known of some to be banned from hotels in certain areas like around OHare, some of it is LEO related but in most cases some hotels have TVs same management or are "on the look out" for known trouble makers. I've had providers tell me to get the room and they will take it out the donation or offer me phenomenal service but I always pass. I'm more on the side of "what if her pimp steals the tv" or she overdoses and the room is in my name. Anytime I get a room in my name it's for me to stay overnight with a girl or have multiple come of I just get a short stay hourly rate especially if it's just one girl I'm seeing.
If a provider needs to use my room with my name on it then I feel as if I should get a cut. Else she must leave when I do. Ive had rooms where I played for an hour left and turned the key in the next day. Ive seen some of you split costs with other mongers on rooms which while still risky is better than trusting some skank and her Pandoras box of a life on your credentials.First off, the overall advice to never give a girl control of a hotel room under your name is right on point. But in moments I let my guard down with some girls that were bordeline SBs, I did find a hack to put the room in their name with almost no risk. I bought a Hotels.com gift card and booked the room prepaid for only the nights I wanted to pay for. The site allowed me to put the girl's name on the reservation so she could check in on her own, although I used my burner phone # and email so I would get some contact if there were issues. The girls were on their own for the check in deposit. Either they could swipe whatever Greendot or prepaid card they had or used cash they had in hand. That let me be the white knight and take care of a room for them, usually followed by some good cheap play sessions, and the hotel didn't have any of my credit card or real info. This may not work at hotels over the low / mid tier, as the check in deposit policies get more rigid the nicer the chain gets. Someone in the know from one of the major chains told me once that their check in system would only allow them to put in a fully populated credit card (including verified name, address, security code, etc) for incidentals, so cash or a prepaid card wouldn't fly with them.
But anyway, one time when I tried this for a girl I got a call a few minutes later on my burner that Extended Stay America had reversed the reservation because the girl's name was on a 'global do not book' list. I was actually curious enough to call back to hear the story since none of my personal info was tied to the reservation, but they wouldn't give any details. It could have been something as mundane as smoking in a non smoking room, but given her way of getting by in the world there was very likely more to the story. Definitely another good reminder to always find ways to keep your personal and financial info away from these girls!
LongDStyle
04-05-22, 12:34
If you can't trust the women in your house by themselves I definitely wouldn't trust them in a hotel room with a big screen tv and other items that can be taken. Even if the girl is cool, you have no idea what type of company they invite. I had a few girls I had to make money from to use my apartment when I was younger as an incall and I'm return I'd want a percentage of their earnings. I asked my roommate what he thought (he was a big tough guy) and his objection was that one day there might come a monger whose intentions were to not pay at all. Of course the result would be violence because a guy like that might expect violence or inflict it which he didn't want to bring any criminal or unwanted attention to us. Of course if you have a network of mongers it could work but our operations would've invited randoms.
Even if the damage isn't much, it's not worth getting banned from a chain of hotels or even having your name implicated if LEO investigations find your name in connection to the room. I've read stories in sex trafficking where the rooms are in the pimps name. Even if it's not the case, those implications can arise and even lead to a warrant for your arrest or being wanted for questioning. In Illinois "having a place of prostitution" can be a serious crime. It's why some providers prefer doing outcalls. If you don’t know much about these girls beware, if she’s underage you will be royally screwed. There are a lot of underage girls on LC claiming to be 21. If anyone remembers Haley from the BP days, she had an underaged roommate that I’m sure many mongers saw. That’s just a well known example.
StanleyStankas
04-05-22, 14:35
If you can't trust the women in your house by themselves I definitely wouldn't trust them in a hotel room with a big screen tv and other items that can be taken. Even if the girl is cool, you have no idea what type of company they invite. I had a few girls I had to make money from to use my apartment when I was younger as an incall and I'm return I'd want a percentage of their earnings. I asked my roommate what he thought (he was a big tough guy) and his objection was that one day there might come a monger whose intentions were to not pay at all. Of course the result would be violence because a guy like that might expect violence or inflict it which he didn't want to bring any criminal or unwanted attention to us. Of course if you have a network of mongers it could work but our operations would've invited randoms.
Even if the damage isn't much, it's not worth getting banned from a chain of hotels or even having your name implicated if LEO investigations find your name in connection to the room. I've read stories in sex trafficking where the rooms are in the pimps name. Even if it's not the case, those implications can arise and even lead to a warrant for your arrest or being wanted for questioning. In Illinois "having a place of prostitution" can be a serious crime. It's why some providers prefer doing outcalls. If you dont know much about these girls beware, if shes underage you will be royally screwed. There are a lot of underage girls on LC claiming to be 21. If anyone remembers Haley from the BP days, she had an underaged roommate that Im sure many mongers saw. Thats just a well known example.And I for one read it all verbatim! They have your cc or real info it's not a matter of if they will create problems it's when! If they could get the bed out the door without being noticed at the front desk they would remove it and try to sell it! Got to love how these dumb c**ts think at all levels! Talk about bite the hand that feeds you. They are such dumb b**ches they chop off the entire arm at the shoulder!! Stosh. Play it safe fellas. Always better safe than sorry. Too bad in this world.
George Stark
04-06-22, 20:12
She has re-surfaced. Newer pics, same piece of shite.
Ripoff biotch with yet another new number. Keeps changing numbers.
As I previously reported here:
http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?7600-Ripoff-Reports&p=5626467&viewfull=1#post5626467
This biotch will agree to anything to get the money, then will honor none of it.
Plus there's a second biotch showing there, too. AVOID!
New link with number.
https://escortbabylon.net/posts_list/3128132473/1
George Stark
04-06-22, 20:22
. I had a few girls I had to make money from to use my apartment when I was younger as an incall and I'm return I'd want a percentage of their earnings.
Aside from the other issues, you can get charged for keeping a place of prostitution, or pimping, or even human trafficking. That's way worsr than a big motel bill.
PartyTimeGuy
04-07-22, 13:02
You run into drug addicted SWs all the time. But it's once and done usually. I did date a UTR that was addicted. Never again. The upside was that she was always available, inexpensive and willing to do almost anything for any amount of time, because she was desperate for cash for her next fix. The downside was that she could nod off to a semi-coma in an instant, could spend an eternity in the bathroom for constipation (one of the many bad side effects of opium-derived substances) and would constantly want to get her fix before the date started (I let her do this once and learned my lesson). Her situation really tugged at my sympathies sometimes because she was basically a very sweet, pretty and fun girl. I dated her for quite a long time and put up with the downsides because she was a 12 on a scale of 10, had a super attitude and personality when she wasn't desperately jones-ing or in a medicated haze, was a great lay, could suck like a Hoover, took it up the ass (only after a good enema, of course) and loved to be playful in bed, even to the point of BDSM kink. All of a sudden she was ghosting me. After a few weeks of this I discovered she had overdosed and died (that discovery is a long story in itself). I legitimately grieved for her. I even found out about her family and sent flowers and a gift basket. Told them a white lie that I had met her in rehab. But it struck me hard that she could have just as easily overdosed when she was with me in a hotel. I don't believe I could be found legally culpable, but that is not a certainty, and the ensuing mess would not have been an experience I would have desired. The bottom line is that there are many things my little head has convinced me to do that was not a good idea, but dating an addicted UTR or SB is not going to ever again be one of them.
Last get together sweet talked me into giving $600 & we could spend a few hours together. As soon as I sent her money on cash app in the hotel room, her friends who were also heauxing on the same premises called saying they have a severe emergency. She walked me to my car, & told me she'd come get me when it is all sorted. I waited for 5 minutes, turns out she blocked my number & ignored my texts from the other number of mine because she suspected it is me.
Last get together sweet talked me into giving $600 & we could spend a few hours together. As soon as I sent her money on cash app in the hotel room, her friends who were also heauxing on the same premises called saying they have a severe emergency. She walked me to my car, & told me she'd come get me when it is all sorted. I waited for 5 minutes, turns out she blocked my number & ignored my texts from the other number of mine because she suspected it is me.How many times has it been said. You don't send a deposit and you never pay up front. Shame on you!
How many times has it been said. You don't send a deposit and you never pay up front. Shame on you!I thought the general rule is upon entering the room that you pay the amount that is due. I learned my lesson the hard way.
How many times has it been said. You don't send a deposit and you never pay up front. Shame on you!I've been saying never pay upfront for a while. While I got a few to agree there were those that threw me under the bus. Paying upfront just puts you in a bad bargaining position with an escort. Now she controls what she will and especially won't do with you. And not give the time you paid to see her. Never let her control the situation. If she wants money upfront before playtime walk out on her.
Last get together sweet talked me into giving $600 & we could spend a few hours together. As soon as I sent her money on cash app in the hotel room, her friends who were also heauxing on the same premises called saying they have a severe emergency. She walked me to my car, & told me she'd come get me when it is all sorted. I waited for 5 minutes, turns out she blocked my number & ignored my texts from the other number of mine because she suspected it is me.Do you have a link? Is this Schaumburg Nadia?
Last get together sweet talked me into giving $600 & we could spend a few hours together. As soon as I sent her money on cash app in the hotel room, her friends who were also heauxing on the same premises called saying they have a severe emergency. She walked me to my car, & told me she'd come get me when it is all sorted. I waited for 5 minutes, turns out she blocked my number & ignored my texts from the other number of mine because she suspected it is me.Which Nadia?
Chicago gets a lot of Eastern Europeans and Middle Eastern immigrants and visitors and Nadia is a common name in both cultures. And there have been several Nadias around amd there will be more in the future.
Could you give us a link or some photos so we can make sure this scamming ***** gets 86'd by the forum?
Last get together sweet talked me into giving $600 & we could spend a few hours together. As soon as I sent her money on cash app in the hotel room, her friends who were also heauxing on the same premises called saying they have a severe emergency. She walked me to my car, & told me she'd come get me when it is all sorted. I waited for 5 minutes, turns out she blocked my number & ignored my texts from the other number of mine because she suspected it is me.Please include as much information as possible. Link of ad and pictures if possible so others don't get ripped off.
Look through the threads to see why she's in this thread. She has changed her name again, but I assume she's still a ripoff artist.
https://chicago.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/gfe-natural-beauty-no-rush-in/403688122621
StanleyStankas
04-29-22, 20:37
You run into drug addicted SWs all the time. But it's once and done usually. I did date a UTR that was addicted. Never again. The upside was that she was always available, inexpensive and willing to do almost anything for any amount of time, because she was desperate for cash for her next fix. The downside was that she could nod off to a semi-coma in an instant, could spend an eternity in the bathroom for constipation (one of the many bad side effects of opium-derived substances) and would constantly want to get her fix before the date started (I let her do this once and learned my lesson). Her situation really tugged at my sympathies sometimes because she was basically a very sweet, pretty and fun girl. I dated her for quite a long time and put up with the downsides because she was a 12 on a scale of 10, had a super attitude and personality when she wasn't desperately jones-ing or in a medicated haze, was a great lay, could suck like a Hoover, took it up the ass (only after a good enema, of course) and loved to be playful in bed, even to the point of BDSM kink. All of a sudden she was ghosting me. After a few weeks of this I discovered she had overdosed and died (that discovery is a long story in itself). I legitimately grieved for her. I even found out about her family and sent flowers and a gift basket. Told them a white lie that I had met her in rehab. But it struck me hard that she could have just as easily overdosed when she was with me in a hotel. I don't believe I could be found legally culpable, but that is not a certainty, and the ensuing mess would not have been an experience I would have desired. The bottom line is that there are many things my little head has convinced me to do that was not a good idea, but dating an addicted UTR or SB is not going to ever again be one of them.You laid this out very factually, mr. ptg. What you did when you heard she passed was a really good thing. Her dying in your presence would be a whirlwind of problems even though you weren't responsible for her death. "in the life" is what the fuzz refer this to and a druggie that doesn't kick it winds up dead or feel and look like they want to be! Again thanks for this post. Stosh. Peace.
Look through the threads to see why she's in this thread. She has changed her name again, but I assume she's still a ripoff artist.
https://chicago.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/gfe-natural-beauty-no-rush-in/403688122621Pre-pandemic she was not only legit (though flakey and constantly late) but she was a great lay. She had a great ass, tight pussy, open menu and loved a good creampie. Then she became a scam artist. The last review I saw seemed to suggest she went legit again but I haven't seen anything one way or the other since then.
If she's legit again, great. I used to see her weekly at her best.
George Stark
05-15-22, 16:06
Bonnie Belle, Penelope West, etc.
After seeing so many reports on this biotch, I thought it made sense to get pics up.
(What a shame. Girl looks tasty!
See also: http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?5225-Escort-Reports&p=5919821&viewfull=1#post5919821
http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?5225-Escort-Reports&p=5920275#post5920275
LongDStyle
05-17-22, 14:16
Bonnie Belle, Penelope West, etc.
After seeing so many reports on this biotch, I thought it made sense to get pics up.
(What a shame. Girl looks tasty!
See also: http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?5225-Escort-Reports&p=5919821&viewfull=1#post5919821
http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?5225-Escort-Reports&p=5920275#post5920275I was already aware before this comment of her ways but I saw her post today on STG. I contacted but didn't get a response. When girls scam (whether it's me or not). I contact them with interest from different numbers asking for outcall. Have them show up and stop responding. If enough of us do that it would get them to either stop posting or request deposits before they travel. At least with the deposits the intelligent or veteran monger would know to steer clear. I would enough all to set up dates with random address or schedule times to appear at their incall. Maintain communication until the last second then ghost them.
StanleyStankas
05-17-22, 18:31
I was already aware before this comment of her ways but I saw her post today on STG. I contacted but didn't get a response. When girls scam (whether it's me or not). I contact them with interest from different numbers asking for outcall. Have them show up and stop responding. If enough of us do that it would get them to either stop posting or request deposits before they travel. At least with the deposits the intelligent or veteran monger would know to steer clear. I would enough all to set up dates with random address or schedule times to appear at their incall. Maintain communication until the last second then ghost them.Why not give them the same s**t sandwich that they serve us with their bs! I know I sound like a broken record, however why be in this business if they are going to pull all of this s**t? Either deliver your service or get out of the business. Sooner or later guys are going to catch on and also there are some cray cray people out there that will take revenge and it might just turn violent! Why do they risk scamming the wrong guy? For quick cash and dash? They think being called a thief instead of a w**re is better? Do not get it stosh.
George Stark
05-20-22, 22:13
Leah (ripoff biotch) with new number
As noted here: http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?7600-Ripoff-Reports&p=5840885&viewfull=1#post5840885.
New link including new number:
https://listcrawler.eu/last_phone_post/7086897318
Worthless piec of sh! T.
Pics for the next time she changes numbers, attached. These are ild, she doesn't look even this good now.
LongDStyle
05-21-22, 10:32
Leah (ripoff biotch) with new number
As noted here: http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?7600-Ripoff-Reports&p=5840885&viewfull=1#post5840885.
New link including new number:
https://listcrawler.eu/last_phone_post/7086897318
Worthless piec of sh! T.
Pics for the next time she changes numbers, attached. These are ild, she doesn't look even this good now.Was planning a visit with her despite some warnings. Would've depended on donation and menu options. But what happened? And appearance wise what is she looking like now? Any detail would help.
Leah (ripoff biotch) with new number
What was the ripoff? Deposit scam or grab the cash and dash? Or pimp robbery setup?
https://chicago.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/asian/schaumburg-naperville-872-249/921191230460
I was looking to have some fun this last Sunday afternoon and could not get a hold of anyone. Finally got desperate enough to try the above ad. They also had an ad up on RubMD with the same number but it's already down. Now I know that all the Asian ads always use fake pictures, but I was hoping to get something at lease in the same ballpark looks / age wise. Got directed to a hotel in Schaumburg with two old ass grannies working out it. It's getting pretty bad the amount of times I've had to walk out because the provider is so far off than what is advertised. Oh well. Stupid me for believing one of these Asian ads might pan out.
What was the ripoff? Deposit scam or grab the cash and dash? Or pimp robbery setup?I saw her a couple of years ago and she was cordial and accommodating. At the time, she was working for some internet provider and had installed security cameras in the apartment.
SteamTrain98
05-25-22, 15:30
https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/illinois/chicago/82393723#.
Tough to get a hold of. Showed up and about 5 min, guy comes in and demands to know what I'm doing with his girl so I fucking bounce. Tried to report this on LC, they deleted my account. Don't trust the reviews on that site.
BeechNut79
05-30-22, 00:01
Hadn't had an encounter since the one near downtown back in March, which was great. Was ready for another juorney so I reached out to Jess from the Eros site. Asked her where she is at and she told me River North, which was where I intended to be today. Called her on the phone and texted both.
When I arrived at the place she was staying at she opened the door to greet me. Now, I am in my late 70's and my equipment doesn't work well anymore. She tried for a while and then asked for a massage. She did just a little bit and then called off the date after only a few minutes in. Gave her 440 roses which is what we agreed on. She is a chubby Latin woman and really didn't have good command of our language, making her very difficult to understand. I felt very cheated by her and certainly will not repeat. IMO the kind of woman who shouldn't be in this biz. I wanted to do at least a mutual massage and she would have none of it. Paid way too much. Complete and total rip-off.
StanleyStankas
05-30-22, 14:01
https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/illinois/chicago/82393723#.
Tough to get a hold of. Showed up and about 5 min, guy comes in and demands to know what I'm doing with his girl so I fucking bounce. Tried to report this on LC, they deleted my account. Don't trust the reviews on that site.I wish I had the rocks to say when asked that question by responding "what am I doing with her? Paying your f**king rent you dumb lazy ass f**k! oh btw- lc is way over the top on the provider end. i have been bounced out as well and if one reads through those threads it's easy to get back on. not really worth it though as i see a lot of monger complaints about the site. stosh stay safe summer is on it's way fellaz!
LongDStyle
05-30-22, 17:03
Hadn't had an encounter since the one near downtown back in March, which was great. Was ready for another juorney so I reached out to Jess from the Eros site. Asked her where she is at and she told me River North, which was where I intended to be today. Called her on the phone and texted both.
When I arrived at the place she was staying at she opened the door to greet me. Now, I am in my late 70's and my equipment doesn't work well anymore. She tried for a while and then asked for a massage. She did just a little bit and then called off the date after only a few minutes in. Gave her 440 roses which is what we agreed on. She is a chubby Latin woman and really didn't have good command of our language, making her very difficult to understand. I felt very cheated by her and certainly will not repeat. IMO the kind of woman who shouldn't be in this biz. I wanted to do at least a mutual massage and she would have none of it. Paid way too much. Complete and total rip-off.Do you have a link? Or she have a page?
BeechNut79
05-31-22, 01:54
Do you have a link? Or she have a page?She is on the Eros site.
What was the ripoff? Deposit scam or grab the cash and dash? Or pimp robbery setup?She didn't rip me off, per se, but it's not an experience I'd ever repeat. The appointment process via text was actually very painless, and she was extremely friendly and responsive. When I told her I was 5 minutes away, she text me and said she'd be around 10 minutes late. 30 minutes later, she was still not ready. About an hour after my time, she told me to go to her room so I could wait while she got ready. Leah looks a bit older than her pictures, but not terrible looking if you are into the 40 yo rail thin hooker look. She's very talkative, and proceeded to tell me her life story while she flitted around her room for the next 30 minutes. One thing that she does is she shows you her knife, mentions that she's a former Marine, and tells you that she has a firearm in the room. After she finally got "ready," she proceeds to give me the rules. No bare, no rough stuff, no hands on her neck. For the blowjob, no touching anywhere near her head, no thrusting. The entire time she was staring into my soul with those pyscho eyes of hers.
I was ready to bail at this point, but she tells me that she would make an exception for me and give me a BBBJ. The actual BBBJCIM itself was actually really good. I'd put it on par with Samantha from Calumet Park. She goes balls deep over and over, and licked my balls while deep throat when I asked her to. When I popped, she held her head all the way down so I was cumming in her throat, and then swallowed it all. It was good enough that it made me forget the crazy stuff before that, and I got ready for round 2. She tells me that she needs to run downstairs for some water, but that I can stay in her room while she's gone. At first, little head was in control and I was ok with waiting. Then, she started doing her random routine around her room, and I realized I'd be there for hours before she came back, if she even came back. I was only about 30 minutes into my 1 hour session (but like 2+ hours after my actual appointment time), but I told her that I was going to head out because I had errands to run. She started getting mad at me and demanded that I tell her why I was actually leaving early. Obviously I wasn't going to tell a psycho that she was a psycho, so I made some stuff up to get out the door. I have never seen a girl get mad at me leaving early, but Leah was very upset.
Over all, her BBBJCIM was top notch, but the craziness makes it not even remotely worth it. Makes me really miss Sam who was a sweetheart with absolutely no drama.
StanleyStankas
05-31-22, 12:12
She didn't rip me off, per se, but it's not an experience I'd ever repeat. The appointment process via text was actually very painless, and she was extremely friendly and responsive. When I told her I was 5 minutes away, she text me and said she'd be around 10 minutes late. 30 minutes later, she was still not ready. About an hour after my time, she told me to go to her room so I could wait while she got ready. Leah looks a bit older than her pictures, but not terrible looking if you are into the 40 yo rail thin hooker look. She's very talkative, and proceeded to tell me her life story while she flitted around her room for the next 30 minutes. One thing that she does is she shows you her knife, mentions that she's a former Marine, and tells you that she has a firearm in the room. After she finally got "ready," she proceeds to give me the rules. No bare, no rough stuff, no hands on her neck. For the blowjob, no touching anywhere near her head, no thrusting. The entire time she was staring into my soul with those pyscho eyes of hers.
I was ready to bail at this point, but she tells me that she would make an exception for me and give me a BBBJ. The actual BBBJCIM itself was actually really good. I'd put it on par with Samantha from Calumet Park. She goes balls deep over and over, and licked my balls while deep throat when I asked her to. When I popped, she held her head all the way down so I was cumming in her throat, and then swallowed it all. It was good enough that it made me forget the crazy stuff before that, and I got ready for round 2. She tells me that she needs to run downstairs for some water, but that I can stay in her room while she's gone. At first, little head was in control and I was ok with waiting. Then, she started doing her random routine around her room, and I realized I'd be there for hours before she came back, if she even came back. I was only about 30 minutes into my 1 hour session (but like 2+ hours after my actual appointment time), but I told her that I was going to head out because I had errands to run. She started getting mad at me and demanded that I tell her why I was actually leaving early. Obviously I wasn't going to tell a psycho that she was a psycho, so I made some stuff up to get out the door. I have never seen a girl get mad at me leaving early, but Leah was very upset.
Over all, her BBBJCIM was top notch, but the craziness makes it not even remotely worth it. Makes me really miss Sam who was a sweetheart with absolutely no drama.Imo. You got the scooby dooby do even though you had to go all the way around to get to it! There are so many red flags with this one yea for me it's a hard pass. "showed me her knife, a marine, has a firearm in the room" I mean whatelse? Oh look out into the parking lot! You see that tank? It's hers as well! WTF. Yea I think you made a good choice and just said something to cool her out as if you would have said "look lady, I did my business down your throat and noting that you are as cray cray as bat sh*t I am gone! Well played in this old man's opinion. Stosh stay safe fellaz. Peace.
https://chicago.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/asian/schaumburg-naperville-872-249/921191230460
I was looking to have some fun this last Sunday afternoon and could not get a hold of anyone. Finally got desperate enough to try the above ad. They also had an ad up on RubMD with the same number but it's already down. Now I know that all the Asian ads always use fake pictures, but I was hoping to get something at lease in the same ballpark looks / age wise. Got directed to a hotel in Schaumburg with two old ass grannies working out it. It's getting pretty bad the amount of times I've had to walk out because the provider is so far off than what is advertised. Oh well. Stupid me for believing one of these Asian ads might pan out."one of these Asian ads might pan out".
Hahahaha!!
Sorry but that is rich.
Goes by the name Kayla she told me it isn't her real name so it will probably change but her face won't thus attached photos. I drive to the incall location a seedy hotel in Joliet right off I55. I come up to the room and I didn't realize it at first but Lucy opened the door another provider that posts in the Joliet area. She vacates the room and me and the provider Kayla start to chat and relax realizing it all after the fact she was stalling for time. She claims she wants to put on music so she accesses her phone to give the pimp a heads up and to signal that she has the money when he comes by. After maybe 5 minutes of a weak BJ we switch to doggie only for the pimp to start banging loudly on the door. Comes in and pretends he has no idea what's going on like his girl just suddenly decided to start selling herself. So even though I have an age, height, and weight advantage over this pimp I decide it's just money and put on my clothes and leave.
However I'm both petty and intelligent so I waited by the door because these clowns never verify that the guy left before they start celebrating and talking about how easy it is. So I hear him say "We can do this all night! I immediately go downstairs and talk to the probable owner of the motel and let him know there's prostitution going in the room as well as other identifying information. And just for good measure in case the owner understands that his business depends on prostitution I called Joliet PD and gave some identifying information on a suspicious activity call. I'm just doing my part in helping society.
However in all seriousness I get the feeling that she is being trafficked she's young and didn't have any kind of prolong drug user signs or scars.
Goes by the name Kayla she told me it isn't her real name so it will probably change but her face won't thus attached photos. I drive to the incall location a seedy hotel in Joliet right off I55. I come up to the room and I didn't realize it at first but Lucy opened the door another provider that posts in the Joliet area. She vacates the room and me and the provider Kayla start to chat and relax realizing it all after the fact she was stalling for time. She claims she wants to put on music so she accesses her phone to give the pimp a heads up and to signal that she has the money when he comes by. After maybe 5 minutes of a weak BJ we switch to doggie only for the pimp to start banging loudly on the door. Comes in and pretends he has no idea what's going on like his girl just suddenly decided to start selling herself. So even though I have an age, height, and weight advantage over this pimp I decide it's just money and put on my clothes and leave.
However I'm both petty and intelligent so I waited by the door because these clowns never verify that the guy left before they start celebrating and talking about how easy it is. So I hear him say "We can do this all night! I immediately go downstairs and talk to the probable owner of the motel and let him know there's prostitution going in the room as well as other identifying information. And just for good measure in case the owner understands that his business depends on prostitution I called Joliet PD and gave some identifying information on a suspicious activity call. I'm just doing my part in helping society.
However in all seriousness I get the feeling that she is being trafficked she's young and didn't have any kind of prolong drug user signs or scars.Was this the Lucy you met?
https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/illinois/chicago/83177322
StanleyStankas
06-04-22, 14:34
Was this the Lucy you met?
https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/illinois/chicago/83177322I understand that post. So there were two women in there and the first to open the door might have been this post and then the woman that was to do the deed that was the one in the post. When oh when are these dumb c**ts going to come up with new scriptwriters?? I'm her boyfriend that does not know she does this so how did I find out about the motel, hotel, stop and flop? It's like they think we are dumber than they are. Is that at a large boulder level? Also just to clarify an old man's nosiness. The reaching out to the manager or owner of the place as well as the local cop shop that was all just a joke for us? And then the part about she is young that might really be a trafficked woman? Sorry for the questions. Just would really like to understand. Stosh. Safe to all.
Was this the Lucy you met?
https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/illinois/chicago/83177322It is she looks different than those photos. I didn't even realize it was her at first Only after I left. She's a heavier now than those photos nothing crazy but maybe 20 pounds.
It is she looks different than those photos. I didn't even realize it was her at first Only after I left. She's a heavier now than those photos nothing crazy but maybe 20 pounds.Thanks for your report. I've been debating on reaching out to see her but glad I didn't now.
She's advertising now with Desi (who's been in and out of the area for a while now.).
https://escortbabylon.net/posts_view/83333408/7739387297
This one has a different version of the deposit scam.
Waits until you get there then insists on Zelle or CashApp transfer.
For me I was lucky in that I had a meeting in the Oak Park where she claims to be.
https://hot.com/us/il/chicago/escorts/gallery/1-331-234-7495/m-NvVH
In these days of Zelle, Cash Apps, PayPal and all the other non sense millennial ways of paying, Cash is the only way to pay an escort. If she doesn't accept Cash walk out. She wants a deposit or pre payment before you meet her in person find another escort. If she wants to be paid upfront before playtime walk out. Don't ever give up your control and advantage to these escorts by giving your money to them before you play. When you do the escort has the power to control your time and what she will and won't do.
In these days of Zelle, Cash Apps, PayPal and all the other non sense millennial ways of paying, Cash is the only way to pay an escort. If she doesn't accept Cash walk out. She wants a deposit or pre payment before you meet her in person find another escort. If she wants to be paid upfront before playtime walk out. Don't ever give up your control and advantage to these escorts by giving your money to them before you play. When you do the escort has the power to control your time and what she will and won't do.Further more if she is using Snapchat or text and she asks "what city are you in? Know the person is sitting in a room with four cell phones working the scam on multiple marks! You get a text from a different number immediately after texting a number, you are a mark and you're going to be asked for a deposit. There is so much bs going on I'm am restricting myself to known providers and agencies, the time I save will cover the higher prices. The 'hunt' is no longer a pleasurable experience. So repeat after me, "I NEVER PAY A DEPOSIT OR PAY IN ADVANCE. I PAY WITH CASH AT TIME OF SERVICES. ".
Fuck these scam artists.
Further more if she is using Snapchat or text and she asks "what city are you in? Know the person is sitting in a room with four cell phones working the scam on multiple marks! You get a text from a different number immediately after texting a number, you are a mark and you're going to be asked for a deposit. There is so much bs going on I'm am restricting myself to known providers and agencies, the time I save will cover the higher prices. The 'hunt' is no longer a pleasurable experience. So repeat after me, "I NEVER PAY A DEPOSIT OR PAY IN ADVANCE. I PAY WITH CASH AT TIME OF SERVICES. ".
Fuck these scam artists.I agree. That's why I haven't seen anybody new outside of an agency or p411 in Chicago in months. There are way too many scams at this point, and even legit girls will scam you if they can. Those are the hardest ones to deal with because posters will vouch for them so you think you are safe and then suddenly you get the boyfriend scam.
I agree. That's why I haven't seen anybody new outside of an agency or p411 in Chicago in months. There are way too many scams at this point, and even legit girls will scam you if they can. Those are the hardest ones to deal with because posters will vouch for them so you think you are safe and then suddenly you get the boyfriend scam.Bonnie Belle has appeared twice in the last few weeks as new reports on the other site. I'm not premium there but the previews are both positive. So, she treats two dudes right for every 20 (she rips off. That's why this thread is so important.
Bonnie Belle has appeared twice in the last few weeks as new reports on the other site. I'm not premium there but the previews are both positive. So, she treats two dudes right for every 20 (she rips off. That's why this thread is so important.Bonnie Belle is a perfect example. I would have staked my reputation on her because I had such a good time with her. I still watch the porn videos we did together because they were so hot. Before the pandemic I would see her sometimes once a week and she would have sexy new outfits and wigs and toys for roleplays. She had a terrible time management problem but she always delivered.
Part of me thinks maybe I would be grandfathered into the "legit Bonnie experience" but I just wouldn't want to take that chance because there were a couple of reviews from guys who saw her before with no problem but got ripped off later on anyway.
It's sad.
LongDStyle
06-16-22, 15:02
I agree. That's why I haven't seen anybody new outside of an agency or p411 in Chicago in months. There are way too many scams at this point, and even legit girls will scam you if they can. Those are the hardest ones to deal with because posters will vouch for them so you think you are safe and then suddenly you get the boyfriend scam.Even a lot of the legit girls will test a guy to see if they can be fooled. I'm seeing girls who never asked for deposits requesting them. I don't care how much they cry about gas prices they affect us all. But after browsing LC and STG enough it's easy to spot the fakes. The scams must work because I'll often seen fakes posting more than the real ones. If an ad keeps populating and refreshing every few minutes throughout the day chances are it's a scam. Girls got to rest plus you'd wonder if anyone is even seeing them if they keep posting. I notice girls who are highly sought after don’t have to post more than once a day as theres no shortage of guys contacting them. The below average looking providers post more it seems. No matter how well reviewed a lady is always exercise caution. We've even had stories of mongers who've seen a particular woman dozens of times and after getting comfortable, the woman changes and rips them off. Drugs and even a new pimp are all that are needed for things to change. The vast majority of these women don't enjoy servicing random men. Once they realize there's a chance to separate you from your money without pleasuring you they will.
This young lady asked for my pic and address for outcall. I gave a fake pic as always and an address nearby. She never showed up. Its been twice she didn't come as I used 2 different numbers on different days and was sent off on both occasions. As time came near for her to arrive I noticed she renewed her post which in my long experience is a red flag the girl isn't coming unless there's the possibility she's hoping to have some new guys contact her during the session and she can prepare for the next guy. Another red flag was she asked if I lived alone. She asked this both times and also told me in one communication that the payment would be due as soon as she arrived. Her incall is in an apartment building in a very bad area so it looks like she was switching to outcalls since I doubt many mongers would venture to her location.
https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/illinois/chicago/83659580
Goes by the name Kayla she told me it isn't her real name so it will probably change but her face won't thus attached photos. I drive to the incall location a seedy hotel in Joliet right off I55. I come up to the room and I didn't realize it at first but Lucy opened the door another provider that posts in the Joliet area. She vacates the room and me and the provider Kayla start to chat and relax realizing it all after the fact she was stalling for time. She claims she wants to put on music so she accesses her phone to give the pimp a heads up and to signal that she has the money when he comes by. After maybe 5 minutes of a weak BJ we switch to doggie only for the pimp to start banging loudly on the door. Comes in and pretends he has no idea what's going on like his girl just suddenly decided to start selling herself. So even though I have an age, height, and weight advantage over this pimp I decide it's just money and put on my clothes and leave.
However I'm both petty and intelligent so I waited by the door because these clowns never verify that the guy left before they start celebrating and talking about how easy it is. So I hear him say "We can do this all night! I immediately go downstairs and talk to the probable owner of the motel and let him know there's prostitution going in the room as well as other identifying information. And just for good measure in case the owner understands that his business depends on prostitution I called Joliet PD and gave some identifying information on a suspicious activity call. I'm just doing my part in helping society.
However in all seriousness I get the feeling that she is being trafficked she's young and didn't have any kind of prolong drug user signs or scars.Just curious, what number did you deal with? Ad's with her pics were posted under 2 numbers for a brief time. I was talking to both. One was quoting inflated donations and the other was much less. If you want to PM that's fine. Just curious what's going on. The lower donation number has deleted the ad's for now but they have popped up a couple times now with slightly different pics but its her.
"Morgan Baaaaby" (815-XXX-1105) is a scammer. She showed up, seemed super friendly, then once she saw the opportunity she grabbed the money and bolted. My fault for thinking with the small head and seeing an unreviewed provider.
https://chicago.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/morgan-baaaaby/994346874643
StanleyStankas
07-06-22, 07:27
"Morgan Baaaaby" (815-XXX-1105) is a scammer. She showed up, seemed super friendly, then once she saw the opportunity she grabbed the money and bolted. My fault for thinking with the small head and seeing an unreviewed provider.
https://chicago.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/morgan-baaaaby/994346874643The first! And thanks for posting her pix and info. Hopefully, probably not of course, these dumb c**ts will understand that if they would just do what they say they will do we have cash to indulge. BTW- imo she does look like white tra*h, however again I have and many others have fallen to this bs both on the streets as well as online with over sells and under delivered. It happens. Live and learn. Stosh.
"Morgan Baaaaby" (815-XXX-1105) is a scammer. She showed up, seemed super friendly, then once she saw the opportunity she grabbed the money and bolted. My fault for thinking with the small head and seeing an unreviewed provider.
https://chicago.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/morgan-baaaaby/994346874643Always keep your money out of her sight. And never ever pay upfront.
BeechNut79
07-10-22, 22:34
Always keep your money out of her sight. And never ever pay upfront.But my experience has been that even established providers will request donation before playtime begins. Guess they figure that rip-offs and scamming go both ways.
But my experience has been that even established providers will request donation before playtime begins. Guess they figure that rip-offs and scamming go both ways.All I'm saying don't put yourself at a disadvantage by paying upfront. You pay her upfront now she has the advantage. She can control what she will and won't do. And she can short you on your time to see her. Or worse not see you at all. Don't worry about offending her by not paying her upfront. Walk out if she insists on getting her money upfront. Paying upfront puts you at a big disadvantage. Paying upfront taught me this lesson early playing in this game.
But my experience has been that even established providers will request donation before playtime begins. Guess they figure that rip-offs and scamming go both ways.Most girls won't accept payment after the fact, but Ron only sees girls who do. His post history should have prior reviews of girls he's seen that you can check out.
Most girls won't accept payment after the fact, but Ron only sees girls who do. His post history should have prior reviews of girls he's seen that you can check out.Ron has such a high post count so that might be a bit of searching. Does Ron have any kind of a list, or can anyone else list some of the girls that take the money afterwards and provide good cheerful service before getting paid?
"Morgan Baaaaby" (815-XXX-1105) is a scammer. She showed up, seemed super friendly, then once she saw the opportunity she grabbed the money and bolted. My fault for thinking with the small head and seeing an unreviewed provider.
https://chicago.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/morgan-baaaaby/994346874643Morgan Baaaaby is also advertising on listcrawler just FYI. Avoid this scammer.
https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/illinois/chicago/85806425
Ron has such a high post count so that might be a bit of searching. Does Ron have any kind of a list, or can anyone else list some of the girls that take the money afterwards and provide good cheerful service before getting paid?Not that I've seen. But I won't speak for him.
It's your money. Pay when you want. I pay after the playtime session is over. I don't want to be at a disadvantage.
It's your money. Pay when you want. I pay after the playtime session is over. I don't want to be at a disadvantage.Ron, I agree with you 100%. The whole game is about keeping the leverage or power. Once you lose the leverage, you could get robbed or get a shitty experience. Once you walk away from them a few times, it gets easier for the big head to keep doing your thinking.
It's your money. Pay when you want. I pay after the playtime session is over. I don't want to be at a disadvantage.
Ron, I agree with you 100%. The whole game is about keeping the leverage or power. Once you lose the leverage, you could get robbed or get a shitty experience. Once you walk away from them a few times, it gets easier for the big head to keep doing your thinking.I agree with you both. We should start a movement to promote women who accept payment after and change the market dynamics so that they gain business and women who want payment upfront lose business.
Since you two seem to have the most experience with finding girls who accept payment after the act, we would love to start patronizing your favorite providers who accept payment after.
Who do you recommend?
"Morgan Baaaaby" (815-XXX-1105) is a scammer. She showed up, seemed super friendly, then once she saw the opportunity she grabbed the money and bolted. My fault for thinking with the small head and seeing an unreviewed provider.
https://chicago.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/morgan-baaaaby/994346874643Hey Fellas,
I've made past mistakes when I was still wet behind the ears! Listen to the Seniors when they share this type of information. You may just get screwed without getting laid!
I agree with you both. We should start a movement to promote women who accept payment after and change the market dynamics so that they gain business and women who want payment upfront lose business.
Since you two seem to have the most experience with finding girls who accept payment after the act, we would love to start patronizing your favorite providers who accept payment after.
Who do you recommend?That's funny because a while back I specifically asked RonM whom exactly accepts payment after the fact. I asked him several times but never got a name. Not. One. Name. So RonM is on my ignore list and others who has researched his past post says he never gives an actual review of an actual girl. But hey, he has a lot of posts so just keep believing him.
B.
So now that you have found a girl who agrees to be paid afterwards if the sex is not as good as you expected, she didn't deliver everything on her menu that you thought should be there or if you finish up faster than the agreed time it only seems fair that you pay her less than what she asked for. After all you have the leverage and expectation of what you were going to experience and may not have received what you feel is your moneys worth. If you don't blow a load should you even have to pay her anything?
SleepOdyssey
07-13-22, 20:27
So now that you have found a girl who agrees to be paid afterwards if the sex is not as good as you expected, she didn't deliver everything on her menu that you thought should be there or if you finish up faster than the agreed time it only seems fair that you pay her less than what she asked for. After all you have the leverage and expectation of what you were going to experience and may not have received what you feel is your moneys worth. If you don't blow a load should you even have to pay her anything?This is bordering on weird and sorta abusive. In this scenario you should definitely pay up and do the right thing. Not every experience you have with a provider is going to be a home run. Especially first time meetings. This sorta thing will run out more ladies from the scene and we'll be stuck with less options. I've had my share of regretful meet ups with escorts or not being fully satisfied. I still did the right thing and gave her what we agreed upon before meeting. You guys need to relax a little.
LongDStyle
07-14-22, 13:14
This is bordering on weird and sorta abusive. In this scenario you should definitely pay up and do the right thing. Not every experience you have with a provider is going to be a home run. Especially first time meetings. This sorta thing will run out more ladies from the scene and we'll be stuck with less options. I've had my share of regretful meet ups with escorts or not being fully satisfied. I still did the right thing and gave her what we agreed upon before meeting. You guys need to relax a little.
I agree. Especially if the encounter lasted as long as was agreed on and all fetishes and and ons were performed. If something doesn't go as planned just negotiate. But I'm hoping that the crowd in here that is advocating for pre payment isn't the same crowd that's okay with sending deposits. In my practice I pay after mainly on incalls. When it's an outcall and I control the setting then I usually pay first to make them feel comfortable. There are providers that will state in their ad that payment is due upon arrival. I avoid them and also the providers that tell me during initial communication that the donation is due at arrival. NEVER take the money with you when you meet the provider outside your place. Always leave it inside! She must enter if she wants anything. My rule is they must be naked before getting anything. And if that’s too much for some of you then at least make sure she’s in the room with her shoes off to make sure it’s not a snatch and dash with your cash. For incalls if they ask for the money upfront I will leave. That's a practice I didn't always perform. After getting burned a few times I learned my lesson. This is why I usually do outcall tho, my success rate is much better. It’s been years but I’ve had providers show up and things seemed suspect and I gave them 20 for gas as a cancellation fee. If you go out of your way to them then yes you should decide if you want to go through with it. They aren’t giving us money for waiting our time so that’s why it’s best to pay after.
I agree. Especially if the encounter lasted as long as was agreed on and all fetishes and and ons were performed. If something doesn't go as planned just negotiate. But I'm hoping that the crowd in here that is advocating for pre payment isn't the same crowd that's okay with sending deposits. In my practice I pay after mainly on incalls. When it's an outcall and I control the setting then I usually pay first to make them feel comfortable. There are providers that will state in their ad that payment is due upon arrival. I avoid them and also the providers that tell me during initial communication that the donation is due at arrival. NEVER take the money with you when you meet the provider outside your place. Always leave it inside! She must enter if she wants anything. My rule is they must be naked before getting anything. And if thats too much for some of you then at least make sure shes in the room with her shoes off to make sure its not a snatch and dash with your cash. For incalls if they ask for the money upfront I will leave. That's a practice I didn't always perform. After getting burned a few times I learned my lesson. This is why I usually do outcall tho, my success rate is much better. Its been years but Ive had providers show up and things seemed suspect and I gave them 20 for gas as a cancellation fee. If you go out of your way to them then yes you should decide if you want to go through with it. They arent giving us money for waiting our time so thats why its best to pay after.It seems like the reasons for paying afterwards are about leverage, control, not getting ripped off, and satisfactory performance. If that is true then it would just seem like the natural next step is for you to pay what you think her service was worth, otherwise what is the point of all of this leverage and control that the pay afterwards guys feel that they need? Is it about intimidating the girl and putting her on the defensive? What? I'm trying to understand this but there is never a girls name connected to these posts, and the guy pushing the hardest for it has never even named one girl he has ever seen. Is it a fantasy that some guys fap off to and that's how they get off? Not meant to be in any way to be an attack on the person I quoted but no one ever backs up their posts with real girls information regarding this subject.
In an extreme hypothetical scenario now a guy is going to pay only what he feels is appropriate for an escort's performance?
All I'm saying is that don't give an escort the leverage and advantage by paying upfront. You pay upfront she has the leverage and advantage over you. After the session is over that's when you pay her. I've never advocated paying less than her full rate depending on her performance. Some of you guys need to stop with these hypothetical scenarios.
Ready Freddie
07-15-22, 17:39
It seems like the reasons for paying afterwards are about leverage, control, not getting ripped off, and satisfactory performance. If that is true then it would just seem like the natural next step is for you to pay what you think her service was worth, otherwise what is the point of all of this leverage and control that the pay afterwards guys feel that they need? Is it about intimidating the girl and putting her on the defensive? What? I'm trying to understand this but there is never a girls name connected to these posts, and the guy pushing the hardest for it has never even named one girl he has ever seen. Is it a fantasy that some guys fap off to and that's how they get off? Not meant to be in any way to be an attack on the person I quoted but no one ever backs up their posts with real girls information regarding this subject.I am not one of those advocating not to pay first, but I want to tell about two recent experiences I had. I decided to experiment in light of these discussions on this forum about paying first. To be clear, it rarely ever happens for me in my experience, except at some agencies when I will place an envelope on the table, and it's never checked until I leave. That being said, I had two recent experiences in Phoenix.
One girl I had agreed to the rate and amount of time before hand by text. She came to my hotel. I had already placed an envelope on the desk by the tv before she arrived. I don't know if she saw the envelope or not, but I don't think she did. She came in, we talked, she went to the bathroom to get ready and came out in lingerie. We proceeded as expected. After we were done and she was ready to leave, I pointed to the envelope. So I think I was successful in paying after.
The second girl I did the same, by having the envelope on the desk. This girl obviously did not see it, because after some chit chat she asked for the money. I pointed and told her it was there in the envelope, but I did not want to give it to her until we were done. She said she understood, but she also had to check the money because she had been cheated a few times. I'm sorry, but I totally understand. She looked at the money, confirmed the amount, and then laid the envelope and money back on the desk. Success again, I guess.
Take this for what it is worth.
All of the above are not my intentions seeing an escort.
I pay after the session is over to prevent from getting ripped off. That's it. I got ripped off when I started playing this game. After that I made sure it would never happen again. I always pay her full price. This notion of paying less than her full price because you feel that's what the session is worth is non sense.
What's the advantage of paying upfront? I'm asking because I don't see it.
No way. I will show them I have the agreed amount and tell them they will be paid in full upon providing the service we have agreed upon. I admit that once in a situation of a really fine looking woman that would not back down I offered half up front, but reserving half until she did as we agreed. She went for it, she still had an incentive to perform and did. I have had one that would not go without upfront, I politely explained that her incentive to rip me off and the potential consequences for doing so were astronomically more in her favor to do so than I. No deal, I wished her well and left, she was pissed but not over the top. Last 5 years I simply have not gone upfront, but I don't do much other than parlors now anyway.
What's the advantage of paying upfront? I'm asking because I don't see it.The biggest advantage is actually getting seen.
I've never heard of a girl ever (aside from regulars or high end girls who discreetly check the envelope while I shower or while they freshen up in the bathroom) who was ok with payment after services. This topic comes up a lot and over the dozens of times it's come up I've still never seen an escort mentioned by name who accepts payment after. It's always non-specific. I don't understand why if guys here are trying to change the culture around payment after vs. Upfront that they wouldn't review a bunch of girls here who do it so we can shift our business to them and change the market dynamics. That's what I would do if I knew any girls who were ok with that. But I don't.
Any escort has the potential of being paid after playtime is over. If she insists on being paid in full upfront then it's in your best interest to walk out. I don't understand why you pay upfront guys willingly put yourselves at a disadvantage. Why let her be in control of your playtime by paying her upfront? There's no incentive on her part to give you your money's worth. She has your money upfront. She can do or not do what you paid her to do with you.
The biggest advantage is actually getting seen.
I've never heard of a girl ever (aside from regulars or high end girls who discreetly check the envelope while I shower or while they freshen up in the bathroom) who was ok with payment after services. This topic comes up a lot and over the dozens of times it's come up I've still never seen an escort mentioned by name who accepts payment after. It's always non-specific. I don't understand why if guys here are trying to change the culture around payment after vs. Upfront that they wouldn't review a bunch of girls here who do it so we can shift our business to them and change the market dynamics. That's what I would do if I knew any girls who were ok with that. But I don't.Agree with this sentiment. I always place the envelope in a conspicuous location shortly after entering, desk / table or whatever. That puts them at ease. I know a lot of guys here have had the cash and dash scenario happen, but I've been lucky, apparently. On the other hand, I haven't seen any LC girls, (yet). It's an unfortunate situation everyone winds up in because of the government's moronic stance on sex work and their pandering to the religious right and anti-sex feminists. Everyone is much less safe. And some of us get scammed by cash and dash or getting robbed by pimps, and some of them get scammed by scumbags who won't pay up after the service is done. Whoever you guys are who don't pay up at the end are why they all want deposits now, by the way. I don't like that but I also can't blame them. This shit's a business, you don't pay for your quarter pounder at McDonalds after you ate it. And if the food sucks you write a bad review here and don't go back. That's the deal we're all stuck with.
LongDStyle
07-17-22, 12:42
Agree with this sentiment. I always place the envelope in a conspicuous location shortly after entering, desk / table or whatever. That puts them at ease. I know a lot of guys here have had the cash and dash scenario happen, but I've been lucky, apparently. On the other hand, I haven't seen any LC girls, (yet). It's an unfortunate situation everyone winds up in because of the government's moronic stance on sex work and their pandering to the religious right and anti-sex feminists. Everyone is much less safe. And some of us get scammed by cash and dash or getting robbed by pimps, and some of them get scammed by scumbags who won't pay up after the service is done. Whoever you guys are who don't pay up at the end are why they all want deposits now, by the way. I don't like that but I also can't blame them. This shit's a business, you don't pay for your quarter pounder at McDonalds after you ate it. And if the food sucks you write a bad review here and don't go back. That's the deal we're all stuck with.I'm under the impression that deposits are requested when guys make appointments or agreements, especially when she's doing outcalls. They show up and he doesn't respond. The whole safety thing the scammers post is bs. Real girls don't want to waste their time traveling 30 minutes and 15 miles one way and a guy stops responding. Gas prices have a bit to do with it. But for the hour wasted round trip to see a monger, she could've seen someone else. On another note, that's why I enjoy outcalls. It's like pussy on delivery LOL.
Any escort has the potential of being paid after playtime is over. If she insists on being paid in full upfront then it's in your best interest to walk out. I don't understand why you pay upfront guys willingly put yourselves at a disadvantage. Why let her be in control of your playtime by paying her upfront? There's no incentive on her part to give you your money's worth. She has your money upfront. She can do or not do what you paid her to do with you.Ok. Could you post a review of one girl. Just one, who you've seen who was fine with accepting money after. We don't need a list, just one review on this review site.
Ok. Could you post a review of one girl. Just one, who you've seen who was fine with accepting money after. We don't need a list, just one review on this review site.I put RonM in the same category as HangingBalls which is why both are on my ignore list and I only see posts when someone else quotes them. A year or so ago I tried to get Ron to give us a name or link to one girl who accepts payments after the deed is done. Just one. Asked him several times searched through his past posts and couldn't find a review of anyone. So I concluded he, just like hangingballs, wants attention and to feel like a big shot. Just like HB when you reply to him or argue with him or even mention him it feeds his little ego. So put him on your ignore list and forget about him. He won't give you any names. Even this post by me has probably made him happy because I am now talking about him. So I'll stop.
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I put RonM in the same category as HangingBalls which is why both are on my ignore list and I only see posts when someone else quotes them. A year or so ago I tried to get Ron to give us a name or link to one girl who accepts payments after the deed is done. Just one. Asked him several times searched through his past posts and couldn't find a review of anyone. So I concluded he, just like hangingballs, wants attention and to feel like a big shot. Just like HB when you reply to him or argue with him or even mention him it feeds his little ego. So put him on your ignore list and forget about him. He won't give you any names. Even this post by me has probably made him happy because I am now talking about him. So I'll stop..For 99 percent of the people here this board is about sharing information. Simple searches on any users posts will quickly show if they share info, only ask for it, or just post blather. How anyone can give credibility to someone who in thousands of posts has never mentioned a girls name he as seen is beyond my comprehension. He actually showed up on ter when it had a good amount of traffic a few years before he started posting here. Pretty much the same posting history there and was shamed off the board. One difference was he had an ongoing narrative of some very young girl living in poverty he claimed to see and paid her some very small token like 30 bucks and barebacked. Of course she was never named. He always used that as an example of how one should approach this hobby. One thing I do believe is that he was kicked out of a strip club for wearing basketball shorts, a slight that he has never recovered from.
For 99 percent of the people here this board is about sharing information. Simple searches on any users posts will quickly show if they share info, only ask for it, or just post blather. How anyone can give credibility to someone who in thousands of posts has never mentioned a girls name he as seen is beyond my comprehension. He actually showed up on ter when it had a good amount of traffic a few years before he started posting here. Pretty much the same posting history there and was shamed off the board. One difference was he had an ongoing narrative of some very young girl living in poverty he claimed to see and paid her some very small token like 30 bucks and barebacked. Of course she was never named. He always used that as an example of how one should approach this hobby. One thing I do believe is that he was kicked out of a strip club for wearing basketball shorts, a slight that he has never recovered from.Ok so I think the moral of this story is that if you want to be serviced and not have any trouble with pimps, pay the girl before service. That's the culture and the practice in this hobby, that's what everybody expects, and if you want a good time that's what you should do. If you don't pay before service, you won't get service, and nobody has been able to prove otherwise.
If you're worried about getting ripped off, only see reputable girls who have good reviews.
Deposits are still not ok.
Have a nice day LOL.
Pay whatever way you want. The pay upfront guys will get ripped off eventually. I learned this lesson early when I started playing this game. After that I never ever pay upfront. You want her to control the session? Pay her upfront. I'm just letting you know guys what will happen when you pay upfront. Try telling her what you want her to do when she has your money already. Be ready for her to say "No".
BeechNut79
07-19-22, 23:50
Any escort has the potential of being paid after playtime is over. If she insists on being paid in full upfront then it's in your best interest to walk out. I don't understand why you pay upfront guys willingly put yourselves at a disadvantage. Why let her be in control of your playtime by paying her upfront? There's no incentive on her part to give you your money's worth. She has your money upfront. She can do or not do what you paid her to do with you.The one I saw for many years who only did outcall always let me pay at the end, even the first time. She is now retired from escorting though.
Set up a meet with Amber Lynn last weekend. Her hours say she's available from 6 AM to 10 PM. She offers discounts to veterans and for those who put a deposit down. I foolishly thought she was legit. Set up a meet for noon, paid 100% upfront for the extra time and asked for the veterans discount. She said she had to delay our meet until 7 that night. I said sure. At 4 she cancelled. Sick mother BS. I said I would look into my availability for the coming days, but couldn't guarantee I could, so I asked for my deposit back. She said sure, as soon as it posts. Well it's been 6 days and I've reminded her on a couple occasions without complaint fro her, but it's clear she has no intention of returning the deposit. So she's a liar and thief. Those discounts and extra time were conveniently forgotten when we set up the second time. Nothing about this woman is legit. Don't make my mistake and stay the fuck away.
Set up a meet with Amber Lynn last weekend. Her hours say she's available from 6 AM to 10 PM. She offers discounts to veterans and for those who put a deposit down. I foolishly thought she was legit. Set up a meet for noon, paid 100% upfront for the extra time and asked for the veterans discount. She said she had to delay our meet until 7 that night. I said sure. At 4 she cancelled. Sick mother BS. I said I would look into my availability for the coming days, but couldn't guarantee I could, so I asked for my deposit back. She said sure, as soon as it posts. Well it's been 6 days and I've reminded her on a couple occasions without complaint fro her, but it's clear she has no intention of returning the deposit. So she's a liar and thief. Those discounts and extra time were conveniently forgotten when we set up the second time. Nothing about this woman is legit. Don't make my mistake and stay the fuck away.This what happens when you pay upfront. In this case a deposit before a meeting.
I'll bet you won't make this mistake again.
LongDStyle
07-21-22, 17:38
Set up a meet with Amber Lynn last weekend. Her hours say she's available from 6 AM to 10 PM. She offers discounts to veterans and for those who put a deposit down. I foolishly thought she was legit. Set up a meet for noon, paid 100% upfront for the extra time and asked for the veterans discount. She said she had to delay our meet until 7 that night. I said sure. At 4 she cancelled. Sick mother BS. I said I would look into my availability for the coming days, but couldn't guarantee I could, so I asked for my deposit back. She said sure, as soon as it posts. Well it's been 6 days and I've reminded her on a couple occasions without complaint fro her, but it's clear she has no intention of returning the deposit. So she's a liar and thief. Those discounts and extra time were conveniently forgotten when we set up the second time. Nothing about this woman is legit. Don't make my mistake and stay the fuck away.For those who send deposits, I'm sure if you start asking these providers if they are refundable. The types of responses you might get. Doubt anyone asks tho. I don't even like sending my real address or a verification pic. I sent a pic of some other guy to a provider along with a nearby address and she never showed up and stopped communicating. I would've been paranoid with some random hooker having my picture and address for blackmail reasons at least. Seems the provider you had contact with found a new slick way to encourage deposits. They won't go away until you all stop sending them. Even the most legit providers aren't perfect.
Set up a meet with Amber Lynn last weekend. Her hours say she's available from 6 AM to 10 PM. She offers discounts to veterans and for those who put a deposit down. I foolishly thought she was legit. Set up a meet for noon, paid 100% upfront for the extra time and asked for the veterans discount. She said she had to delay our meet until 7 that night. I said sure. At 4 she cancelled. Sick mother BS. I said I would look into my availability for the coming days, but couldn't guarantee I could, so I asked for my deposit back. She said sure, as soon as it posts. Well it's been 6 days and I've reminded her on a couple occasions without complaint fro her, but it's clear she has no intention of returning the deposit. So she's a liar and thief. Those discounts and extra time were conveniently forgotten when we set up the second time. Nothing about this woman is legit. Don't make my mistake and stay the fuck away.If you had done some searching on this board you would have found reports that she is unreliable, a nutjob, and her pictures are antiques.
StanleyStankas
07-22-22, 08:17
Set up a meet with Amber Lynn last weekend. Her hours say she's available from 6 AM to 10 PM. She offers discounts to veterans and for those who put a deposit down. I foolishly thought she was legit. Set up a meet for noon, paid 100% upfront for the extra time and asked for the veterans discount. She said she had to delay our meet until 7 that night. I said sure. At 4 she cancelled. Sick mother BS. I said I would look into my availability for the coming days, but couldn't guarantee I could, so I asked for my deposit back. She said sure, as soon as it posts. Well it's been 6 days and I've reminded her on a couple occasions without complaint fro her, but it's clear she has no intention of returning the deposit. So she's a liar and thief. Those discounts and extra time were conveniently forgotten when we set up the second time. Nothing about this woman is legit. Don't make my mistake and stay the fuck away.You won't be the first and surely won't be the last for falling for a piece of a**e's bs! I hate to see this happen to anyone and it sounds like you are a decent person that just someone took advantage. Unfortunately as reported here so many, many times we are dealing with absolute pieces of s**t no matter what they look like. Given the opportunity they will rip off their own mother or father! I am sure that is why these people haven't seen or spoke with a family member since they got into the life! Unfortunately they are garbage! Sorry this happened and hopefully hereafter you will read and follow the advice on this forum. I would like to see a link to this dumb c**ts profile so we all can see who to avoid! No they could care less if they are outed here! They are on auto pilot and no matter what one says or does to them they always default to dumb c**t wh*re! Good luck all. Stay safe and yea no deposits ever.
Set up a meet with Amber Lynn last weekend. Her hours say she's available from 6 AM to 10 PM. She offers discounts to veterans and for those who put a deposit down. I foolishly thought she was legit. Set up a meet for noon, paid 100% upfront for the extra time and asked for the veterans discount. She said she had to delay our meet until 7 that night. I said sure. At 4 she cancelled. Sick mother BS. I said I would look into my availability for the coming days, but couldn't guarantee I could, so I asked for my deposit back. She said sure, as soon as it posts. Well it's been 6 days and I've reminded her on a couple occasions without complaint fro her, but it's clear she has no intention of returning the deposit. So she's a liar and thief. Those discounts and extra time were conveniently forgotten when we set up the second time. Nothing about this woman is legit. Don't make my mistake and stay the fuck away.I wonder what would have happened if you didn't leave a deposit and just went full price. Would she have found another way to scam? Would she demand a deposit anyway?
I wonder what would have happened if you didn't leave a deposit and just went full price. Would she have found another way to scam? Would she demand a deposit anyway?You pay a deposit or full price before you see her 100% of the time you'll never see her and never get your money back. Given the opportunity an escort will always get your money without giving you any playtime. Always pay her.
After playtime is over. Not before. Never ever pay a deposit. This isn't a money back guarantee business. Some of you guys have to get this money back guarantee out of your mindset.
If you guys would pay after your playtime is over like I've been saying you'll never get ripped off. She wants a deposit upfront before you see her find another escort. She wants money upfront in person before playtime walk out. You guys have to start using common sense when dealing with these types of girls.
Set up a meet with Amber Lynn last weekend. Her hours say she's available from 6 AM to 10 PM. She offers discounts to veterans and for those who put a deposit down. I foolishly thought she was legit. Set up a meet for noon, paid 100% upfront for the extra time and asked for the veterans discount. She said she had to delay our meet until 7 that night. I said sure. At 4 she cancelled. Sick mother BS. I said I would look into my availability for the coming days, but couldn't guarantee I could, so I asked for my deposit back. She said sure, as soon as it posts. Well it's been 6 days and I've reminded her on a couple occasions without complaint fro her, but it's clear she has no intention of returning the deposit. So she's a liar and thief. Those discounts and extra time were conveniently forgotten when we set up the second time. Nothing about this woman is legit. Don't make my mistake and stay the fuck away.There are several posts here about Amberlynn. I know because I posted one, gave her a small deposit, and after two last minute cancellations, I asked for it back. She did send it back to me, wonder of wonders. I think she does actually provide services, but she is just lazy and shifty about it. The only reason I know she does actually provide is everyone complains about her aggressive politics, so they must all be meeting the same lady. No surprise, they also say her pics are 50 lbs and 20 yrs out of date. Lesson learned. Plenty of nice ladies out there who don't require a deposit.
LongDStyle
08-01-22, 11:08
Not sure if anyone has any experience with this one. Seen the ad for awhile but finally decided to contact. Seemed like a scam already with red flags on the ad. Whoever I was texting didn't have the best English. But she agreed to what I requested. She was in a rush to come, told he she was on her way before we even discussed donation. She had a short ETA so I said what the heck why not give it a spin. She arrived and called me. I spoke to her and the voice didn't match the pics. No accent, or anything. Sounded like an overweight woman with a raspy voice. I gave her the wrong address just up there street and told her I was coming out. She took the liberty of going door to door looking for me. I got a glimpse of her out the window before I went out and she looked larger but couldn't tell her ethnicity. I check a few doors down and I think I see her at a neighbors house with one foot and her head inside their front door like she asking questions, trying to gain access or maybe look for someone. The car she got out of looks like it had 2 male drivers. I thought it was possible that lady wasn't for me I saw outside. I went back into my place and checked my phone. I gave her the right building this time and she told me she was outside. I went out and saw the saw lady. She looks like a complete 180 degree difference from the girl in the ads. I never saw the lady's face but didn't need to. Her sloppy body did nothing for me. I can understand girls using pics of someone similar to them but this was blatantly off.
One other thing, early in communication I made it clear I wouldn’t send a deposit. Only then did she automatically tell me she was coming over.
https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/brief/escorts/usa/illinois/chicago/1/2601
LongDStyle
08-01-22, 22:38
She's a newer poster from what I've seen. Shows up, leaves her car running. Which is understandable in my area since parking is limited and she was right out front in temporary parking. She didn't speak much at all which was a red flag. Ask me if I'm alone. Another red flag. I wasn't alone but we had plenty of privacy. We agreed on bare in text. First thing she does is pull out a rubber. I show her the text. The entire time we're standing by the door so it seems there was no intent to work. She looks at me crazy even when I show her the text. I say this is what you agreed to and upcharged me for it. I give her gas money and kick her out.
https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/illinois/chicago/87571293
Irving Park
08-09-22, 13:34
Just got a call from someone who said he wants to talk to me about soliciting sex about a week ago. Googled the phone number and it goes back to the US Court building in the Loop. I sensed a blackmail attempt coming so I hung up and blocked the number. I checked who I called that day and one girl I like, she is a sweetheart, another girl I called I did not connect with. I will let you know if there is any other contact.
Just got a call from someone who said he wants to talk to me about soliciting sex about a week ago. Googled the phone number and it goes back to the US Court building in the Loop. I sensed a blackmail attempt coming so I hung up and blocked the number. I checked who I called that day and one girl I like, she is a sweetheart, another girl I called I did not connect with. I will let you know if there is any other contact.I believe this would be the same as hearing from the IRS. They don't call, they send regular old postal mail. If they were serious someone with a badge would show up at your door. It is easy to spoof a number on caller I'd. Of course on the cop tv shows they make phone calls all the time so I could be wrong. But above all else remember you don't have to talk to anyone. Not talking is better than lying. Lying will get you into trouble or least provide an "in" to the investigator.
B.
SleepOdyssey
08-10-22, 23:18
Just got a call from someone who said he wants to talk to me about soliciting sex about a week ago. Googled the phone number and it goes back to the US Court building in the Loop.Where did you find these ladies you were contacting? Sites like LC, Rubmd, Skipthegames, or maybe Eros? These sites seem like the type where this would happen. Let us know.
I recent went to see Amber. She used to post under Amber on LC, but is going by Freyea now. These 3 women share a house with a guy.
When I went to see Amber, right when I arrived, she jumped in the shower. Her friend let me in and I got to talk to her. All 3 of these women are real. I saw each of them. Cass talked to me and was being kind. When Amber popped her head out to say it will just be a minute, Cass asked for the money. By the way, Cass also goes by Mel or Melanie. Her cashapp has her real name on it. If you pay by Paypal, she will show a message saying that the payment is being held ask for cash or cashapp as she claims they do not have money for a hotel and want to work. While I was waiting for Amber, after 30 more minutes, this guy comes out of the room and asked me why I am there. He then goes into the bathroom and comes out claiming that Amber has OD and I have to go. They will not provide any service and make stuff up and then text after asking for more money.
Info:
Amber aka Freyea.
Numbers use currently are 312 625 0140 and 708-986-0966.
https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/gallery/escorts/usa/illinois/chicago/1/freyea
https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/gallery/escorts/usa/illinois/chicago/1/7089860966
https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/gallery/escorts/usa/illinois/chicago/1/7088960966
Cass aka Mel or Melanie.
https://chicago.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/black_caribbean/AmberCassLeila/494633182374 (If you cannot find add, you can search by AmberCass or AmberCassLeila if they did not remove the ads by now.).
Real name is: molly tyskie claeys (It is her cashapp and the facebook account matches.).
When will you guys ever learn never ever pay upfront?
Paying upfront doesn't get you a better experience. It gets you a crappy experience or nothing at all.
You think paying upfront makes you look like a nice guy to her? It makes you look like a simp.
Don't pay upfront.
She wants money upfront walk out.
Pennywise666
08-12-22, 18:13
When will you guys ever learn never ever pay upfront?
Paying upfront doesn't get you a better experience. It gets you a crappy experience or nothing at all.
You think paying upfront makes you look like a nice guy to her? It makes you look like a simp.
Don't pay upfront.
She wants money upfront walk out.This should be made a sticky never ever pay a deposit there's a bunch of them right now on listcrawler don't do it.
When will you guys ever learn never ever pay upfront?
Paying upfront doesn't get you a better experience. It gets you a crappy experience or nothing at all.
You think paying upfront makes you look like a nice guy to her? It makes you look like a simp.
Don't pay upfront.
She wants money upfront walk out.If you must play with the scam artists on Listcrawler troll the fuck out of them. Burn up their time with extended conversations, multiple questions about their deposit but NEVER NEVER NEVER give them a nickle.
Pennywise666
08-12-22, 21:37
If you must play with the scam artists on Listcrawler troll the fuck out of them. Burn up their time with extended conversations, multiple questions about their deposit but NEVER NEVER NEVER give them a nickle.I was just doing that a couple hours ago LOL I like when you ask them how far they are from you they always say around 15 minutes what a joke.
LongDStyle
08-14-22, 01:49
Catfish but not ugly. Has male handlers. Will try to get cash and dash. Beware.
https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/illinois/chicago/88819983
As I was looking through listings, I came across these.
Amber is posting under Bella now on LC with 351-352-1169: https://escortbabylon.net/posts_list/3513521169/1.
Cass (Mel) is now going by Desire with 773-892-1984: https://chicago.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/DeSiRe/652552735979.
I recent went to see Amber. She used to post under Amber on LC, but is going by Freyea now. These 3 women share a house with a guy.
When I went to see Amber, right when I arrived, she jumped in the shower. Her friend let me in and I got to talk to her. All 3 of these women are real. I saw each of them. Cass talked to me and was being kind. When Amber popped her head out to say it will just be a minute, Cass asked for the money. By the way, Cass also goes by Mel or Melanie. Her cashapp has her real name on it. If you pay by Paypal, she will show a message saying that the payment is being held ask for cash or cashapp as she claims they do not have money for a hotel and want to work. While I was waiting for Amber, after 30 more minutes, this guy comes out of the room and asked me why I am there. He then goes into the bathroom and comes out claiming that Amber has OD and I have to go. They will not provide any service and make stuff up and then text after asking for more money.
Info:
Amber aka Freyea.
Numbers use currently are 312 625 0140 and 708-986-0966.
https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/gallery/escorts/usa/illinois/chicago/1/freyea
https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/gallery/escorts/usa/illinois/chicago/1/7089860966
https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/gallery/escorts/usa/illinois/chicago/1/7088960966
Cass aka Mel or Melanie.
https://chicago.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/black_caribbean/AmberCassLeila/494633182374 (If you cannot find add, you can search by AmberCass or AmberCassLeila if they did not remove the ads by now.).
Real name is: molly tyskie claeys (It is her cashapp and the facebook account matches.).
SignerJeff
08-26-22, 13:27
Bonnie Belle, Penelope West, etc.
After seeing so many reports on this biotch, I thought it made sense to get pics up.
(What a shame. Girl looks tasty!
See also: http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?5225-Escort-Reports&p=5919821&viewfull=1#post5919821
http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?5225-Escort-Reports&p=5920275#post5920275I am traveling into town next week and wanted to set up something in advance. Communicated with this provider and set up a rather pricey outcall. Long story short, this review saved my ass. I confronted her with the negative reviews I found and was promptly blocked.
So now then, anyone have any suggestions you could PM me? I'll be staying in NW Burbs, Lincolnshire area.
Thanks again!!
George Stark
09-07-22, 19:44
I am traveling into town next week and wanted to set up something in advance. Communicated with this provider and set up a rather pricey outcall. Long story short, this review saved my ass. I confronted her with the negative reviews I found and was promptly blocked.
So now then, anyone have any suggestions you could PM me? I'll be staying in NW Burbs, Lincolnshire area.
Thanks again!!This is a guy that RTFF. I put that up in mid-May. Good job, sir.
Hey guys,
I got scammed & totally ripped off by this one. She will continuously ask for more money as she starts with a 50 outcall deposit. Kudos to you smarter ones who just say no to anything upfront. Very hot teaser videos & pictures. Total ripOff & a no show! Don't give this one a 2nd thought.
https://escortbabylon.net/posts_view/91660824/3129676768
Pennywise666
09-10-22, 09:57
Hey guys,
I got scammed & totally ripped off by this one. She will continuously ask for more money as she starts with a 50 outcall deposit. Kudos to you smarter ones who just say no to anything upfront. Very hot teaser videos & pictures. Total ripOff & a no show! Don't give this one a 2nd thought.
https://escortbabylon.net/posts_view/91660824/3129676768It's been said time and time again on these forums don't do deposits and people still keep doing them thinking I'll be the one.
BFoxxxy in Lansing usually has a detailed ad but recently it just says I forgot my number, here it is.
BFoxxxy in Lansing usually has a detailed ad but recently it just says I forgot my number, here it is.I added a photo of her text response but it didn't go thru.
It basically said sorry I missed you, just come to room 31X at the so and so on torrence.
I'm all for girls being ready to go but just giving a room number on the first reply is suspicious to me.
Hey guys,
I got scammed & totally ripped off by this one. Kudos to you smarter ones who just say no to anything upfront.I've been saying never pay upfront a billion times. Some listen. Most have to learn by getting ripped off.
LongDStyle
10-03-22, 13:31
Some years ago she was scamming mongers. Me and another prominent regular had negative experiences with her.
It appears she's resurfaced. If anyone has any recent experience please share. Otherwise I'd steer clear of her. She was working with a pimp on the NW side previously. Mine and the other mongers experience with her was separated by quite a bit of time so I don't think she's learned to actually perform since. Looks like she's posting two ads. The bottom one may not be her but the first seems to be unless someone else is using her pics.
https://escortalligator.com.listcraw...icago/94047009
https://escortalligator.com.listcraw...icago/93940486#.
Some years ago she was scamming mongers. Me and another prominent regular had negative experiences with her.
It appears she's resurfaced. If anyone has any recent experience please share. Otherwise I'd steer clear of her. She was working with a pimp on the NW side previously. Mine and the other mongers experience with her was separated by quite a bit of time so I don't think she's learned to actually perform since. Looks like she's posting two ads. The bottom one may not be her but the first seems to be unless someone else is using her pics.
https://escortalligator.com.listcraw...icago/94047009
https://escortalligator.com.listcraw...icago/93940486#.The alligator links always die quickly. It's better to click on the link then reviews then photos and post those links because the photos page links only die if the provider cancels her account. If she disappears for a bit, the links still work and the URL will show the phone number / numbers.
https://escortbabylon.net/image_list/2242984874
https://escortbabylon.net/image_list/8156219347
Hey guys,
I got scammed & totally ripped off by this one. She will continuously ask for more money as she starts with a 50 outcall deposit. Kudos to you smarter ones who just say no to anything upfront. Very hot teaser videos & pictures. Total ripOff & a no show! Don't give this one a 2nd thought.
https://escortbabylon.net/posts_view/91660824/3129676768Thanks for posting the picture, she can delete her ad but the picture will warn off the few that actually listen.
LongDStyle
10-05-22, 12:55
I know most of you know better than to send deposits. At least I hope. Anyway this one is for sure a scam. They are using a friend of mines pictures. They are mainly going thru cashapp and asking for gas money. They talk a good game to make you think it's legit and a girl will even call you but it's not her. Whoever this is also has a pimp.
https://sumosear.ch/phone/630-927-1339
I agree with everyone about Deposit scams. Back in 2016, when I was in the prime of my hobbying career, I sent a $200 deposit to a girl who went by the name of Jamie Love. Jamie had to commute from Schaumburg to Chicago (where I was staying at the time), so I understood that it would be a few days until she makes it out here. Well, weeks go by and she kept stalling me saying that "something came up" or "she is sick". I let three weeks pass until I finally said "you know what f- this, I am going to dispute this $500 charge with Paypal. Within minutes of the dispute, I get a text from Jamie telling me that "she is on her way". Yup you better recognize biotch! Although she delivered as promised, god knows what she would have done if I did not dispute the charge. I am noticing a lot of my mongers having the same issues with deposit, but always remember if services were not rendered, you can always get your money back even if its cash app. This is something to consider as we enter a new era of hobbying! I think free money makes people lazy, but when you take that away you can get things done.
Happy hobbying!
LongDStyle
10-06-22, 08:16
Saw this on LC, probably best to avoid any girls you see working under this number. Safer in general to avoid girls with pimps.
https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/illinois/chicago/94432033
George Stark
10-11-22, 05:35
Please use more durable links to LC / EB girls.
That post is gone. Lots of girls delete old posts while keeping the account and phone number.
The posts that will be up as long as the account is not deleted look like these:
https://escortbabylon.net/posts_list/3124684654/1
https://escortbabylon.net/image_list/3124684654
https://listcrawler.eu/last_phone_post/3124684654
Note that these URLs contain the phone number, too. By the way, I just chose that girl's posts at random. She's not recommended, as her pimp insists on being in the room with her and clients.
Saw this on LC, probably best to avoid any girls you see working under this number. Safer in general to avoid girls with pimps.
https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/illinois/chicago/94432033
LongDStyle
10-12-22, 13:21
Please use more durable links to LC / EB girls.
That post is gone. Lots of girls delete old posts while keeping the account and phone number.
The posts that will be up as long as the account is not deleted look like these:
https://escortbabylon.net/posts_list/3124684654/1
https://escortbabylon.net/image_list/3124684654
https://listcrawler.eu/last_phone_post/3124684654
Note that these URLs contain the phone number, too. By the way, I just chose that girl's posts at random. She's not recommended, as her pimp insists on being in the room with her and clients.I was thinking of seeing her. Main thing that gave me pause is the male voice in the background of some of her videos. She has a pimp thar stays in the room you say? I'd like to hear more. Looks like she has alot of good reviews but it seems those are from the days she was working in the suburbs. Now she's raised her prices some abd works from a house in Humboldt Park. Anyone have some experience they'd like to share?
George Stark
10-12-22, 19:44
Please use more durable links to LC / EB girls.
That post is gone. Lots of girls delete old posts while keeping the account and phone number.
The posts that will be up as long as the account is not deleted look like these:
https://escortbabylon.net/posts_list/3124684654/1
....
By the way, I just chose that girl's posts at random. She's not recommended, as her pimp insists on being in the room with her and clients.
I was thinking of seeing her. Main thing that gave me pause is the male voice in the background of some of her videos. She has a pimp thar stays in the room you say? I'd like to hear more. Looks like she has alot of good reviews but it seems those are from the days she was working in the suburbs. Now she's raised her prices some and works from a house in Humboldt Park. Anyone have some experience they'd like to share?Covered extensively.
http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?20941-BBFS-Reports&p=5967123&viewfull=1#post5967123
http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?20941-BBFS-Reports&p=5966564&viewfull=1#post5966564
You can use the "view original post" to follow the chain.
These are about her. I can't prove it because the users reporting did not use the "durable" links as I am requesting, but I know it was her because the links worked at the time.
I was very strongly tempted by that girl, but *not* with a pimp, especially in the room at the time.
Here is a link to the post history tied to her number. The guy is still with her. She is real, but I guess now he stays in the room next door or same room if it is a hotel.
https://escortbabylon.net/posts_list/3124684654/1
Covered extensively.
http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?20941-BBFS-Reports&p=5967123&viewfull=1#post5967123
http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?20941-BBFS-Reports&p=5966564&viewfull=1#post5966564
You can use the "view original post" to follow the chain.
These are about her. I can't prove it because the users reporting did not use the "durable" links as I am requesting, but I know it was her because the links worked at the time.
I was very strongly tempted by that girl, but *not* with a pimp, especially in the room at the time.
I wouldn't Reccomand her. I seen her in May and you have to be OK with her Pimp being in the bathroom. Not to mention she has a drug problem. When she let me in, she was snorting coke off the dresser and was smoking a crack pipe.
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