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This Tuesday at 10 pm. "Sex Trafficking In America".
Just a heads up for anyone who's interested.
George Stark
05-27-19, 03:02
This Tuesday at 10 pm. "Sex Trafficking In America".
Just a heads up for anyone who's interested.Thanks, but I'm long past my quota of bullshit on that topic. The "numbers" and "statistics" these fuckers use are amazing.
StanleyStankas
05-27-19, 08:51
This Tuesday at 10 pm. "Sex Trafficking In America".
Just a heads up for anyone who's interested.This I need to see considering pbs is so liberal. I hope they show all sides of the industry and not just "johns are perverted controlling people and all prostitutes are shackled poor women that are enslaved by their masters". I want to see the girls that are shopping on michigan avenue living in beautiful condos and making 10 k a week as well. Keep it fair! All imo of course, however I will make it a point to watch the report.
This I need to see considering pbs is so liberal. I hope they show all sides of the industry and not just "johns are perverted controlling people and all prostitutes are shackled poor women that are enslaved by their masters". I want to see the girls that are shopping on michigan avenue living in beautiful condos and making 10 k a week as well. Keep it fair! All imo of course, however I will make it a point to watch the report.For obvious reasons I don't discuss the topic with other people but the overwhelming public opinion of people who had never tried the hobby is exactly that escorts and poor abused, pimped out women and the Johns are a bunch of guys who pay for sex because they can't get it "the normal way". I made the mistake once to comment on line that the vast majority of prostitutes in the developed countries excluding the junkies are doing it voluntarily and consensually and was ripped to pieces by angry women who "felt terrible for the poor women forced to have sex for money ".
StanleyStankas
05-27-19, 18:42
For obvious reasons I don't discuss the topic with other people but the overwhelming public opinion of people who had never tried the hobby is exactly that escorts and poor abused, pimped out women and the Johns are a bunch of guys who pay for sex because they can't get it "the normal way". I made the mistake once to comment on line that the vast majority of prostitutes in the developed countries excluding the junkies are doing it voluntarily and consensually and was ripped to pieces by angry women who "felt terrible for the poor women forced to have sex for money ".You got clobbered by the typical position of the feminist movement! Once verified many of these women are trust fund babies, never worked a day in their lives and live in a private country club environment where they really never engage with anyone else except like minded people. I know I met some of them!
This Tuesday at 10 pm. "Sex Trafficking In America".
Just a heads up for anyone who's interested.It was garbage focused just on young / underage girls being trafficked. Honestly I don't understand guys who want to fuck underage girls.
JumpSmoker90
06-01-19, 16:38
It was garbage focused just on young / underage girls being trafficked. Honestly I don't understand guys who want to fuck underage girls.I was eyeing those detectives LOL. Those chicks were smoking hot especially Det. Chance. She needs to be in a different line of work.
FruitNinja
06-10-19, 06:48
https://www.rrstar.com/news/20190608/rockford-uses-familiar-play-to-shut-down-unwanted-businesses
Human trafficking.
Can't find online but in Tribune headline To flip masseuse, a soft touch tried. A quote "we will guide you an apartment,. We will provide food and education. We will bring your children to US. Just tell us you are human trafficking victim and testify against your captors".
Sounds tempting but she wouldn't do it.
The whole article is worth a read but I just can't find it online. It was from yesterday's paper.
UncleNutzy
06-14-19, 15:39
Since March there have been arrests at a few well known AMP's Oki Doki, Ozone, Sister Lavender, why spa, North River, Princess Spa Thai bodywork it's easy enough to check Uncle gives arrest reports with address of the offense, it would appear our paranoia may be well founded re stings so let's be careful out there.
P.S. You wouldn't believe it but the MT's lie about their age.Suburbs getting hit hard too. JJ's, Crystal, & Infinity.
https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/crystal-lake-massage-parlors-prostitution-arrests-511298401.html
Suburbs getting hit hard too. JJ's, Crystal, & Infinity.
https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/crystal-lake-massage-parlors-prostitution-arrests-511298401.html53 yr old and 60 yr old will make me steer clear of any Asian massage place.
George Stark
06-26-19, 14:10
Human trafficking.
Can't find online but in Tribune headline To flip masseuse, a soft touch tried. A quote "we will guide you an apartment,. We will provide food and education. We will bring your children to US. Just tell us you are human trafficking victim and testify against your captors".
Sounds tempting but she wouldn't do it.
The whole article is worth a read but I just can't find it online. It was from yesterday's paper.http://digitaledition.chicagotribune.com/tribune/article_popover.aspx?guid=fe0dac3b-3689-452c-a31b-455c334263f3
This shows how utterly dishonest law enforcement is about the "epidemic" of "human trafficking" - they have to fabricate victims. Cocksuckers!
Surprise, surprise!:
. No Florida massage parlor owners have been charged with human trafficking.
StanleyStankas
06-26-19, 15:34
http://digitaledition.chicagotribune.com/tribune/article_popover.aspx?guid=fe0dac3b-3689-452c-a31b-455c334263f3
This shows how utterly dishonest law enforcement is about the "epidemic" of "human trafficking" - they have to fabricate victims. Cocksuckers!
Surprise, surprise!:They intimidate someone or several someones that are in a position to be swayed because most of these providers are not from the USA. Also if they get them to admit that they were indeed trafficked they know it's going to be a higher profile case which means a pay grade increase, some media, who knows LEO might write a book and get a movie deal! Total bs, however this does exist and we may as well get used to it. The country is turning towards the direction that no one is responsible for their own choices. Everyone is a victim! And now with a governmental agency that victim is also a client! Sucks really! Imo.
I'm rarely in IL anymore--this 'logic' is part of the reason.
https://patch.com/illinois/glenellyn/adult-business-ordinance-approved-dupage-county
"Adult Business Ordinance Approved In DuPage County.
The new ordinance hopes to curb crime at adult businesses, since the county can't ban them. ".
-A six-person panel of DuPage County Board members had been set up in January to do research on local adult businesses and their practices. In March board members invited adult businesses owners throughout the county to attend a meeting with the panel. '.
Translation: County board members spent 3 mos and untold tax dollars visiting strip joints, lingerie lounges and (probably) jackshacks and this is what they come up with:
++ 'As part of the ordinance, performers, dancers, bouncers, and managers will be required to wear a special I'd card while they are working. '.
Yeah-EVERY STRIPPER wants to be wearing a SPECIAL IDcard while dancing -maybe it will even have their SS#, DOB, and mothers maiden name clearly printed on it for all the customers to review.
And THIS I'd will 'curb crime', according to the County.
And I'm actually Larry Flynts' unacknowledged lovechild, and presently in a committed relationship with Stormy Daniels.
F1.
George Stark
06-26-19, 23:26
I'm rarely in IL anymore--this 'logic' is part of the reason.
https://patch.com/illinois/glenellyn/adult-business-ordinance-approved-dupage-county
"Adult Business Ordinance Approved In DuPage County.
The new ordinance hopes to curb crime at adult businesses, since the county can't ban them. ".Well Melrose Park is in Cook County, so this new idiocy won't apply. Just the old idiocy.
But yeah, Illinois sucks.
StanleyStankas
06-27-19, 09:01
Well Melrose Park is in Cook County, so this new idiocy won't apply. Just the old idiocy.
But yeah, Illinois sucks.So much could be said here about phony I. D. 's being sold to illegals so the talent in the adult businesses could do the same, however that is not what this is all about. It's all about people not just minding their own business. They want to mind ours to!! The national I. D. Is also coming to us in October of 2020. Without it you won't be able to fly from here to indiana or iowa. What's next? You won't be able to walk from cook to du page county without your papers! We must see your papers!! And yes heim strip is in crook county as until you go say past wolf road or so on lake and grand you are still in cook and not du page. Total bs, however what is new here?
https://chicago.cbslocal.com/2019/03/14/college-students-turn-sugar-daddies-help-pay-bills/
Well Melrose Park is in Cook County, so this new idiocy won't apply. Just the old idiocy.
But yeah, Illinois sucks.Dude, Texas or at least Houston had this law, you needed a license to be a stripper. Sure most of you like to ***** about taxes but prostitution legalization will be next on the docket after the dust settles from pot.
Including in Chicago. I'm sure Dart is creaming in his pants at the thought of all the consenting adults lives he can ruin.
https://www.reddit.com/r/SexWorkers/comments/ccyqqr/weve_all_heard_about_the_stings_across_the_nation/
Be careful out there.
CashDaddy47
07-21-19, 16:42
Including in Chicago. I'm sure Dart is creaming in his pants at the thought of all the consenting adults lives he can ruin.
https://www.reddit.com/r/SexWorkers/comments/ccyqqr/weve_all_heard_about_the_stings_across_the_nation/
Be careful out there.I wonder if they've infiltrated this site yet?
Seriously? Where do some of you guys get this?
1. It's a public site, nobody has to "infiltrate"
2. It's an anonymous site, nothing you post here or tell somebody in PM will ever be used by LE because it's all, like every bit of it hearsay. It has never nor will ever be used in court.
3. If you're stupid enough to give up the anonymity we built into the site for you and something happens it's not because they "infiltrated the site" to use words you drama queens like it was because your trade-craft was faulty. You let somebody you met on the fucking internet know who you were in real life and how that tied to you here. That's you're stupidity.
A2
I wonder if they've infiltrated this site yet?
Seriously? Where do some of you guys get this?
1. It's a public site, nobody has to "infiltrate"
2. It's an anonymous site, nothing you post here or tell somebody in PM will ever be used by LE because it's all, like every bit of it hearsay. It has never nor will ever be used in court.
3. If you're stupid enough to give up the anonymity we built into the site for you and something happens it's not because they "infiltrated the site" to use words you drama queens like it was because your trade-craft was faulty. You let somebody you met on the fucking internet know who you were in real life and how that tied to you here. That's you're stupidity.
A2I think we should blame it on the Russian's.
From the Times in Hammond on July 31st. Busy again calling good old prostitution. Sex trafficking!
7 arrested in Lansing during nationwide sex trafficking sting; 45 total arrests in Cook County.
COOK COUNTY — Forty-five people were arrested in Cook County as part of a five-week, nationwide sting trying to decrease sex trafficking in the United States.
Of the 45 arrests, seven were made by the Lansing Police Department from June 23 through July 28, officials said. Other local agencies — Matteson, Orland Hills and Broadview — accounted for nine arrests, with the Cook County Sheriff's Office making up the rest.
In 2011, Sheriff Thomas Dart said he started the National Johns Suppression Initiative to "draw national attention to the role sex buyers play in fueling sex trafficking. ".
Since then, 18 stings have been done, with more than 9,500 Johns being arrested throughout the country. Dart said the latest operation included 26 law enforcement agencies from 11 states, netting at least 503 arrests.
Departments conducted street-level reverse stings and posted decoy ads on sex trafficking websites to lure Johns trying to pay for sex. Dart said some of the internet ads were even linked to interactive artificial intelligence (AI) bots.
"The AI bot, created by childsafe. Ai, interacts with Johns seeking sex and eventually sends a deterrence message warning of the legal and social ramifications of buying sex," Dart said. "The Cook County Sheriff's Office and five other agencies utilized the bot, engaging a combined total of 3,079 potential sex buyers. ".
States that participated in addition to Illinois included Alabama, Arizona, California, Colorado, Maryland, New York, Nevada, Pennsylvania, Texas and Washington.
StanleyStankas
08-01-19, 08:35
From the Times in Hammond on July 31st. Busy again calling good old prostitution. Sex trafficking!
7 arrested in Lansing during nationwide sex trafficking sting; 45 total arrests in Cook County.
COOK COUNTY Forty-five people were arrested in Cook County as part of a five-week, nationwide sting trying to decrease sex trafficking in the United States.
Of the 45 arrests, seven were made by the Lansing Police Department from June 23 through July 28, officials said. Other local agencies Matteson, Orland Hills and Broadview accounted for nine arrests, with the Cook County Sheriff's Office making up the rest.
In 2011, Sheriff Thomas Dart said he started the National Johns Suppression Initiative to "draw national attention to the role sex buyers play in fueling sex trafficking. ".
Since then, 18 stings have been done, with more than 9,500 Johns being arrested throughout the country. Dart said the latest operation included 26 law enforcement agencies from 11 states, netting at least 503 arrests.
Departments conducted street-level reverse stings and posted decoy ads on sex trafficking websites to lure Johns trying to pay for sex. Dart said some of the internet ads were even linked to interactive artificial intelligence (AI) bots.
"The AI bot, created by childsafe. Ai, interacts with Johns seeking sex and eventually sends a deterrence message warning of the legal and social ramifications of buying sex," Dart said. "The Cook County Sheriff's Office and five other agencies utilized the bot, engaging a combined total of 3,079 potential sex buyers. ".
States that participated in addition to Illinois included Alabama, Arizona, California, Colorado, Maryland, New York, Nevada, Pennsylvania, Texas and Washington.A few of the guys have already mentioned getting those "spook" text messages from uncle. The areas mentioned in our areas out south I would tend to believe these also had to be internet related reverse stings as well. Correct me if I am wrong, however those far south burbs would not have much if any street traffic. I also think decoys would stick out down there. I mean yea the usual strolls in chicago proper I can see them dropping in decoys in hopes of catching some fish, however even out by me I doubt uncle does much if any reverse stings over on heim. That all said this is all a trend with law enforcement, imo. Setups! Again I keep harping on it as some of you guys do as well. Sex trafficking? The street girls mostly are drunks or druggies or both. They are involved mostly in abusive relationships. Girls on eros and high end sites to my eyes and ears do not look like they are being forced to make thousands a week! Yes, lock up and throw away the keys to anyone that sexually touches a kid under 18 for any reason and also people that actually are involved in harboring people (legally or illegally) that scare, force or threaten to expose the victim. Those people should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law! However, the blurring of the sex industry and human trafficking is becoming more and more evident. I mean over by jimmy's I personally see drug deals going down all the time in broad daylight! Cops everywhere and then mongers are getting pulled over for making an illegal you to see if she is in the car yet? I mean. Not good.
StanleyStankas
08-01-19, 08:42
I think we should blame it on the Russian's.However the admins are correct. Everyone lurks everywhere online. Fact of posting online. Even the mentioned pedo. I mean the guy should be locked up forever and deal with bubba instead of his fantasy of a little girl. That all said I personally would give him my dumbass of the year award in that he really was not thinking too clearly in the moves he made down the line!
https://www.wltx.com/article/news/crime/weve-got-monsters-28-arrested-wanted-by-richland-county-in-sex-crimes-operation/101-197095a6-378f-450c-9b42-26eb9e9bd338?fbclid=IwAR36pHb0Fz5ax2BzfHznNYBUAyhEoxpvHFfWQ3l9eLsvRdUUhe5BRPiOMWw
StanleyStankas
08-14-19, 08:24
https://www.wltx.com/article/news/crime/weve-got-monsters-28-arrested-wanted-by-richland-county-in-sex-crimes-operation/101-197095a6-378f-450c-9b42-26eb9e9bd338?fbclid=IwAR36pHb0Fz5ax2BzfHznNYBUAyhEoxpvHFfWQ3l9eLsvRdUUhe5BRPiOMWwThose pix look nothing like what we see back here with the tranny's and interesting looks cpd provides on their site. Yep hook, line and sinker. I mean really. With all the publicity underage is getting right now and all the focus these guys are not only pedos they are really dumber than a box of rocks! Yep my dumba** award of the week award goes to.
https://www.wltx.com/article/news/crime/weve-got-monsters-28-arrested-wanted-by-richland-county-in-sex-crimes-operation/101-197095a6-378f-450c-9b42-26eb9e9bd338?fbclid=IwAR36pHb0Fz5ax2BzfHznNYBUAyhEoxpvHFfWQ3l9eLsvRdUUhe5BRPiOMWwHave you notice that law enforcement and politicians are now attempting to link sex trafficking with paying for sex? If this works I wonder if they will now try to link driving under the influence with attempted murder? Its bad enough that they fine you heavily put your face in the news but now they want to convince people you're as bad as some scum bag who kidnaps and forces girls into sex slavery? What's next, registering as a sex offender?
Look at Bob Kraft. He, as a widowed man, just wanted a rub and tug and now he is fighting the "promotion of sex trafficking" b. S. I hope it doesn't fly.
B.
P. s This is in no way a defense of the really sick people who want underage children. I was referencing the men who simply wanted to get off with an adult.
Busted.
https://patch.com/illinois/lemont/golden-spa-worker-62-charged-prostitution-lemont-cops?utm_medium=social&utm_content=illinois&utm_campaign=blasts&utm_source=facebook.com
StanleyStankas
09-07-19, 10:09
Have you notice that law enforcement and politicians are now attempting to link sex trafficking with paying for sex? If this works I wonder if they will now try to link driving under the influence with attempted murder? Its bad enough that they fine you heavily put your face in the news but now they want to convince people you're as bad as some scum bag who kidnaps and forces girls into sex slavery? What's next, registering as a sex offender?
Look at Bob Kraft. He, as a widowed man, just wanted a rub and tug and now he is fighting the "promotion of sex trafficking" b. S. I hope it doesn't fly.
B.
P. s This is in no way a defense of the really sick people who want underage children. I was referencing the men who simply wanted to get off with an adult.And also discussed with many of us here many times. It just is imo the times we live in. No one is at fault or makes their own choices for anything any longer. People are now creating jobs and offices to interview people that are victims of sex trafficking. Now prior to the political correct turn we took they would just consider themselves w**es making a living by selling their bodies. However, now offices and personal have been created so they are now convinced that they were sex trafficked! And I agree underage and real sex trafficking should be dealt with severely, however the politicos and politically correct people want us to believe that eros et all is sex trafficking? Or these little rub and tugs that have been doing business all these years fall into that same category? Then I woke up. Just again the times we live in.
FirstTimer7
09-07-19, 20:40
Have you notice that law enforcement and politicians are now attempting to link sex trafficking with paying for sex? If this works I wonder if they will now try to link driving under the influence with attempted murder? Its bad enough that they fine you heavily put your face in the news but now they want to convince people you're as bad as some scum bag who kidnaps and forces girls into sex slavery? What's next, registering as a sex offender?
Look at Bob Kraft. He, as a widowed man, just wanted a rub and tug and now he is fighting the "promotion of sex trafficking" b. S. I hope it doesn't fly.
B.
P. s This is in no way a defense of the really sick people who want underage children. I was referencing the men who simply wanted to get off with an adult.They made solicitation a felony now in Texas last week and because of that eccie essentially became a discussion forum. No more ads and can't view profiles anymore.
StanleyStankas
09-07-19, 22:15
They made solicitation a felony now in Texas last week and because of that eccie essentially became a discussion forum. No more ads and can't view profiles anymore.I knew when BP, ter, et al went down eccie was just a shell of what it was in the past. So I have visited on occasion and couldn't find reviews I clearly saw prior to the big take downs. So I take it now it is completely worthless. Thanks for this info.
"New law helps hospitality workers spot signs of human trafficking".
}}Illinois has a new law in place to help hospitality workers fight one of the fastest-growing criminal activities in the world: human trafficking.
State Sen. Suzy Glowiak Hilton, D-Western Springs, championed House Bill 3101, which requires hotels and motels to train employees to recognize the signs of human trafficking and know what to do when reporting it to authorities.
The bill was signed into law on Aug. 23. {{.
Full text: https://www.mysuburbanlife.com/2019/08/26/new-law-helps-hospitality-workers-spot-signs-of-human-trafficking/az2ayh2/.
A $$ININE. The expense of this is unimaginable and the burden-liability it puts on hotel staff. Suppose you take a wife / GF / SO on a weekender and she has a thing for handcuff play, and you leave them on the nightstand. Can the staff decide you are now a TRAFFICKER?
GoHomeSmiling
09-07-19, 22:29
X-post.
Here are a few thoughts I posted a bit ago in Rokcford forum RE their lingerie debacles. A little context is lost, apologies. In Chicago, clearly all of this has already happened but I guess the powers that be want to make a case that x equals why.
In addition to the mayor, chief etc a lot of this comes down to the old phrase follow the money. My guess is that economic drivers from chambers of congress, business owners, real estate developers are really driving this. Rockford has a lot of potential for trendy brewpubs with cleverly-named IPAs, open floor plan restaurants with communal tables, and all the other bullshit that will make property values nudge upward and street parking to become more expensive. In five years the downtown area and business district will have one of those names like BizRock or NoRo or something and it will be referred to without any mention of Rockford. But first, you have to get rid of the things that make developers go soft in their reclaimed hardwood. That's why this is all done under the label of Hum at and Trffk. It's a framing device to make it palatable to everyone, pro sex-work liberals who have condo money, god fearing conservatives, and everyone in between.
FirstTimer7
09-08-19, 01:28
I knew when BP, ter, et al went down eccie was just a shell of what it was in the past. So I have visited on occasion and couldn't find reviews I clearly saw prior to the big take downs. So I take it now it is completely worthless. Thanks for this info.I'd say it worthless now but you still can write and read reviews, however who would want to pay anymore to read those reviews. It's pretty insignificant in Chicago. When it came back from the festa hiatus, they forbid you to look into any of the old reviews. While most ad sites moved overseas to host, they didn't so now they are stopping ads.
"New law helps hospitality workers spot signs of human trafficking".
}}Illinois has a new law in place to help hospitality workers fight one of the fastest-growing criminal activities in the world: human trafficking.
State Sen. Suzy Glowiak Hilton, D-Western Springs, championed House Bill 3101, which requires hotels and motels to train employees to recognize the signs of human trafficking and know what to do when reporting it to authorities.
The bill was signed into law on Aug. 23. {{.
Full text: https://www.mysuburbanlife.com/2019/08/26/new-law-helps-hospitality-workers-spot-signs-of-human-trafficking/az2ayh2/.
A $$ININE. The expense of this is unimaginable and the burden-liability it puts on hotel staff. Suppose you take a wife / GF / SO on a weekender and she has a thing for handcuff play, and you leave them on the nightstand. Can the staff decide you are now a TRAFFICKER?Earlier this year Marriot trained a lot of their employees to combat trafficking too. I talked to a few providers about this with one who has been in this industry for a long time and she said the strategy has been used for quite a while and might be just scare tactics, she never had issues. Handcuff thing might not be an issue, they are looking for things like having many visitors, no luggage, no eye contact / avoid eye contact, requesting a lot of towels, denying cleaning / DND, etc. Another provider mentioned she tips very generously to the cleaning ladies. A lot of cleaning staff probably know what's going on but they might turn a blind eye.
https://gizmodo.com/dhs-doj-now-looking-into-escort-and-massage-sites-that-1838131975
DomCorazon
09-16-19, 22:59
https://gizmodo.com/dhs-doj-now-looking-into-escort-and-massage-sites-that-1838131975That why adultlook ads went from over 400 to under 200?
BrightHorizon
09-19-19, 09:03
This just happened yesterday. Ukraine Village.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/criminal-justice/ct-madam-charged-20190918-7wbqx7xyrbajrbc556jna4glpa-story.html%3FoutputType%3Damp&ved=0ahUKEwjJlrqq69zkAhVDIqwKHeAxDc8QyM8BCB0wAA&usg=AOvVaw2PSVXS_a6HdoAVpEfGBcDG&cf=1
StanleyStankas
09-19-19, 09:34
This just happened yesterday. Ukraine Village.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/criminal-justice/ct-madam-charged-20190918-7wbqx7xyrbajrbc556jna4glpa-story.html%3FoutputType%3Damp&ved=0ahUKEwjJlrqq69zkAhVDIqwKHeAxDc8QyM8BCB0wAA&usg=AOvVaw2PSVXS_a6HdoAVpEfGBcDG&cf=1And illegally structuring bank withdrawals to evade reporting requirements.
We have been posting about this area regarding the massage places for awhile. It's starting to surface. Would like to follow this case. I for one would like to know how they actually get her. There are some obvious red flags here- unusual traffic in a residence and most importantly or relevant at least- where did she get the money? Business license, dept of labor issues, taxes and of course the underlying issue that the kink scene is a kin to the hobby as we know it. Thanks for this post as I want to start to track this case. If I see anything of relevance I will post my findings here.
LuckiCharms
09-19-19, 09:49
This place has been active for several years and the owner just got busted. I passed this location several times, but I am not into what they offer. Any of you mongers know could Modelsclubelite be next? Jhobby do you know? Here is the federal indictment and a news article.
https://www.justice.gov/usao-ndil/press-release/file/1203506/download
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/chicago-woman-charged-in-alleged-us-prostitution-ring/2019/09/18/d5e1680a-da65-11e9-a1a5-162b8a9c9ca2_story.html
https://chicago.suntimes.com/crime/2019/9/18/20873072/feds-madame-dungeon-chicago-brothel-kink-extraordinaires-jessica-nesbitt They were raided by the Feds over 2 years ago and it took until now for it to become public. They seem to be coming at her from several different directions, she must have a lot of info on someone else they probably want to snare.
StanleyStankas
09-19-19, 18:09
https://chicago.suntimes.com/crime/2019/9/18/20873072/feds-madame-dungeon-chicago-brothel-kink-extraordinaires-jessica-nesbitt They were raided by the Feds over 2 years ago and it took until now for it to become public. They seem to be coming at her from several different directions, she must have a lot of info on someone else they probably want to snare.There's a big name in the mix somewhere. Some prosecutor is looking to become famous. It won't be the first time. I enjoy studying these high profile cases in all areas of people of notoriety. Everyone from coroners, attorneys, prosecutors et al who were unknowns prior to a highly publicized celebrity in show biz to politics are now famous because of their involvement. Interested to see how this all plays out. Thanks for all the focus.
There's a big name in the mix somewhere. Some prosecutor is looking to become famous. It won't be the first time. I enjoy studying these high profile cases in all areas of people of notoriety. Everyone from coroners, attorneys, prosecutors et al who were unknowns prior to a highly publicized celebrity in show biz to politics are now famous because of their involvement. Interested to see how this all plays out. Thanks for all the focus.This lady was smart enough to craft a successful business operation. She managed to be profitable and yet did about the stupidest thing imaginable. She deposited the money into her bank in cash. You'd think with all the presumably successful guys she dealt with she might have asked one of the horny lawyers or cpa's a couple questions.
Over the years I have had that type of conversation many times with providers. I even had a "friend" who flew to Zurich a couple times a year to make deposits (before the swiss banking laws changed).
There's a big name in the mix somewhere. Some prosecutor is looking to become famous. It won't be the first time. I enjoy studying these high profile cases in all areas of people of notoriety. Everyone from coroners, attorneys, prosecutors et al who were unknowns prior to a highly publicized celebrity in show biz to politics are now famous because of their involvement. Interested to see how this all plays out. Thanks for all the focus.This will be interesting. She screwed herself with the gmail account. They'll get a subpoena for her emails and if she has anything explicitly communicated on there, she's really fucked. Like you said, I bet there's a big name in the mix too and I'm sure they'll get a plea deal from her in exchange of confirming that big name. Reading over the case, the prosecutors seemed to really cover each corner on the indictment; between the currency fraud, written admission of sex acts in exchange for money while crossing state lines, Gmail server, and even the grand jury. She's really fucked. Makes me think it's either a politician or a well know businessman that they want to get out of her. But damn! She averaged $400,000 a year!
StanleyStankas
09-21-19, 18:48
This lady was smart enough to craft a successful business operation. She managed to be profitable and yet did about the stupidest thing imaginable. She deposited the money into her bank in cash. You'd think with all the presumably successful guys she dealt with she might have asked one of the horny lawyers or cpa's a couple questions.
Over the years I have had that type of conversation many times with providers. I even had a "friend" who flew to Zurich a couple times a year to make deposits (before the swiss banking laws changed).Without boring the crew here I want to make general comments covered on my two quoted post members. The first before I forget about the horny lawyer. So funny the pro I knew when she got busted in a set up that she was involved in when she started in the industry working for a downtown agent. The lawyer that got her off was one of her best customers down the line! Also this woman may have had a good business acumen, however she was caught in structuring of her deposited money. So say I have a business account with a particular bank. And actually one of the banks she used I have had a company account with for more years than this woman has been alive! Under another name that merged into the now bank. Anyway so I have this account and I have customers so I take their checks and I deposit in this one account. There would be no reason for me to have several of these accounts at the same bank as well as usng other banks for the same unless I was hiding something. The money is insured up to a point with fdic. If we look at those accounts most if not all had less than that insurance. Also having an at yahoo or at gmail or at google or at anything except ones own securely hosted and maintained website was completely dumb! Ones own paid for real website with ones own paid for url comes with 50 email addresses at very little cost per year to the person. I know my business has had one for over 20 years. Again I see this huge name coming out, the name being prosecuted and like the big college scam that came out she spends 2 weeks in minimum security and she is back to whole again. She's lawyered up now and there are people on the move that will want to rep her to further move along their law careers. Also she will get a book deal and have an agent and that will get shopped around for tv appearances and movie deals! It's like sydney bittle bellows (sorry spelling is all wrong). The hottie from new york! She became a star! All imo of course. Stosh. For what it's worth.
FruitNinja
09-21-19, 20:47
This will be interesting. She screwed herself with the gmail account. They'll get a subpoena for her emails and if she has anything explicitly communicated on there, she's really fucked. Like you said, I bet there's a big name in the mix too and I'm sure they'll get a plea deal from her in exchange of confirming that big name. Reading over the case, the prosecutors seemed to really cover each corner on the indictment; between the currency fraud, written admission of sex acts in exchange for money while crossing state lines, Gmail server, and even the grand jury. She's really fucked. Makes me think it's either a politician or a well know businessman that they want to get out of her. But damn! She averaged $400,000 a year!If they can subpoena a google email the can with any other provider. It might be a different story if you host your own email server. Interesting topic these days. Seems like a lot of Lady Liberty has left the room. They did it incrementally. We have become servants of Corporate America through the financing of our elected officials. The corporations own our government. They play petty games with us while the privileged pillage the country.
This just happened yesterday. Ukraine Village.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/criminal-justice/ct-madam-charged-20190918-7wbqx7xyrbajrbc556jna4glpa-story.html%3FoutputType%3Damp&ved=0ahUKEwjJlrqq69zkAhVDIqwKHeAxDc8QyM8BCB0wAA&usg=AOvVaw2PSVXS_a6HdoAVpEfGBcDG&cf=1Yep, with condos priced in that area, particularly between W. Division and W. Chicago slightly under / over $1 M, those yuppies don't want that activity in the area. And given that it's getting into an election year, I expect even more activity similar to this by the feds, Cook County (CC Sheriff's Dept just made prostitution arrests in Northbrook), and CPD.
Stay alert and be safe.
LuckiCharms
09-23-19, 02:12
This lady was smart enough to craft a successful business operation. She managed to be profitable and yet did about the stupidest thing imaginable. She deposited the money into her bank in cash. You'd think with all the presumably successful guys she dealt with she might have asked one of the horny lawyers or cpa's a couple questions.
Over the years I have had that type of conversation many times with providers. I even had a "friend" who flew to Zurich a couple times a year to make deposits (before the swiss banking laws changed).Having a profitable business like she has, she should have just kept everything in cash. If she wanted to be sneaky. She should have used a fake looking legit business like what Modelsclubelite is doing currently to process credit card transactions from clients in Chicago.
StanleyStankas
09-23-19, 10:08
If they can subpoena a google email the can with any other provider. It might be a different story if you host your own email server. Interesting topic these days. Seems like a lot of Lady Liberty has left the room. They did it incrementally. We have become servants of Corporate America through the financing of our elected officials. The corporations own our government. They play petty games with us while the privileged pillage the country.What is happening imo is what has been happening in our country since 911. The surveillance in general has really been ramped up. I am not a gun totting red neck or otherwise. Just a city dweller wannabe really, however what used to be accepted is now considered a concern to pursue. So a massage business is skewed into being sexual harassment and human trafficking when really it's no more than a place where dudes go to get something they no longer get from the wife at home. Like this case we have been discussing here. How many dudes got their balls jacked that if you encountered them during the business day they would seem like an every day business man? Again all imo someone dropped the dime that under the pile of clients this woman has is a major player so some prosecutor wants to make his big name and be in show business with the big check. They went to her and said we got you in a prostitution case with this phony supposedly legit kink business and we will make a big case, however we don't want you. We want such and such. Nothing is new. The feds did this with the mafia many years ago. That is how many cases were made. Snitches!
Having a profitable business like she has, she should have just kept everything in cash. If she wanted to be sneaky. She should have used a fake looking legit business like what Modelsclubelite is doing currently to process credit card transactions from clients in Chicago.LE has a tough job. I'm sure the appreciate your efforts to make it easier.
LuckiCharms
09-23-19, 20:13
LE has a tough job. I'm sure the appreciate your efforts to make it easier.Just like the owner at Kink Extraordinaire, Modelsclubelite have working girls in California. There's a law about having girls traveling across statelines for escort work. Modelsclubelite also have emails that incriminate them. Hopefully that makes them much easier for them.
Here is the federal indictment.
https://www.justice.gov/usao-ndil/pr/chicago-woman-charged-operating-prostitution-business-city-s-west-side
Lmao I thought you had dirt on them? Besides that weak attempt at writing those hollywood stories last time at the BS thread, you mentioned that mce's time is short. Yet here we are a year later. You know you're obvious right?
LuckiCharms
09-24-19, 19:37
Lmao I thought you had dirt on them? Besides that weak attempt at writing those hollywood stories last time at the BS thread, you mentioned that mce's time is short. Yet here we are a year later. You know you're obvious right?It takes time JHobby. It took 7 years for Kink to get busted. It's took several years for other agencies to get busted as well.
It's not going to occur overnight, but it will occur. When it happens, MCE owners will least expect it. All of the owners items will be confiscated and all of his money will be gone with just a click of a mouse.
It takes time JHobby. It took 7 years for Kink to get busted. It's took several years for other agencies to get busted as well.
It's not going to occur overnight, but it will occur. When it happens, MCE owners will least expect it. All of the owners items will be confiscated and all of his money will be gone with just a click of a mouse.You're confident your agency doesn't get busted first?
StanleyStankas
09-25-19, 09:56
It takes time JHobby. It took 7 years for Kink to get busted. It's took several years for other agencies to get busted as well.
It's not going to occur overnight, but it will occur. When it happens, MCE owners will least expect it. All of the owners items will be confiscated and all of his money will be gone with just a click of a mouse.Sometimes it's the competition that drops the dime or a disgruntled former employee. What happened with the pro I knew when she first got into the biz and worked with agencies. To make extra money she was working in the actual office and also forwarding phones (when all of that was necessary) on occasion. It was a legit office, however the cash they would hide in a certain spot that no one would know unless they tore the place apart! When the fuzz came in and arrested everyone and removed them guess what happened? Yep. Cash that was hidden was gone and also what they reported they "found" was about one tenth of what was actually there. So imo it could be from a competitor that wants them gone or a girl that was stiffed somehow. Would not be a trick of course.
You're confident your agency doesn't get busted first?He's got 8 posts and every single one of them is some bullshit about that agency. Its pretty obvious he's got some stake in them getting busted. Hopefully his does go first. Maybe then we can get a break on this.
LuckiCharms
09-25-19, 11:43
You're confident your agency doesn't get busted first?I'm not a pimp with a facelift nor a wannabe blonde Barbie doll with fake boobs and a fake nose. MCE owners should find another way to make money to fund their lavish lifestyle.
I'm not a pimp with a facelift nor a wannabe blonde Barbie doll with fake boobs and a fake nose. MCE owners should find another way to make money to fund their lavish lifestyle.Yes, you are a washed up escort. How's business going? Must be difficult if you're back here shilling again. Doesn't work in ecc ie, won't work on here either.
LuckiCharms
09-25-19, 18:44
Yes, you are a washed up escort. How's business going? Must be difficult if you're back here shilling again. Doesn't work in ecc ie, won't work on here either.Other websites would work. Don't say I didn't warn the MCE owners. Everything that they have would be confiscated and seized. The cleaning business, his other businesses, their new condo. The money they have stashed up. The Porsche, the Gucci and LV apparel. I like Gucci, but I don't overspend that much like the owners do. The people whom are actually going to be washed up are the MCE owners.
LuckiCharms
09-26-19, 01:13
Yes, you are a washed up escort. How's business going? Must be difficult if you're back here shilling again. Doesn't work in ecc ie, won't work on here either.This is the indictment that occurred recently. Everything that Modelsclubelite is doing is on that indictment. Except that they don't use gmail. MCE uses outlook.
No more lip injections for that wannabe blonde Barbie doll.
https://www.justice.gov/usao-ndil/press-release/file/1203506/download
Triggered washed up escort envious with former employer's lavish lifestyle. Cannot go to uncle because she'll get locked up herself, neither can she go to social media to vent her bruised ***** ego. But instead posts on escorting boards to embarrass herself with triggered rants.
This should be a reality show material.
LuckiCharms
09-26-19, 13:46
Triggered washed up escort envious with former employer's lavish lifestyle. Cannot go to uncle because she'll get locked up herself, neither can she go to social media to vent her bruised ***** ego. But instead posts on escorting boards to embarrass herself with triggered rants.
This should be a reality show material.The ones embarrassed should be the MCE owners themselves. Awannabe Barbie doll who has so much plastic surgery puts Ophelia Vanity to shame. Then their is a unattractive Punjabi guy who needed a face lift, but still is unattractive. The Gucci that he dons on isn't going to hide is unattractive face.
Let the MCE owners know that they should enjoy whatever is left of their civilian life.
ApplePiePussy
09-26-19, 15:28
These last dozen posts are exactly why I will never give up my info to these agencies. They're all ticking time bombs.
These last dozen posts are exactly why I will never give up my info to these agencies. They're all ticking time bombs.This horseshit doesn't even have entertainment value. I've never given any personal info to anyone in the biz, and don't do agencies, but as you said the last dozen posts should make it clear why its a bad idea.
These last dozen posts are exactly why I will never give up my info to these agencies. They're all ticking time bombs.Under no circumstance we should open up an identity to any agency and / provider, including even the independent like that GPS Princess Isabela Pomares. Once they learn who a client really is, the will never forget. Moreover, all that sensitive info gets planted in their servers, clouds, hard drives etc forever.
LuckiCharms
09-30-19, 14:19
Under no circumstance we should open up an identity to any agency and / provider, including even the independent like that GPS Princess Isabela Pomares. Once they learn who a client really is, the will never forget. Moreover, all that sensitive info gets planted in their servers, clouds, hard drives etc forever.Yes, agencies like Modelsclubelite in Chicago stores information on clients.
They say they don't store information which is unlikely, as you can see the recent bust in Chicago and other agencies over the years in other cities. Those agencies kept information on clients stored on blackbooks or on electronic devices. Do mongers still want to patronize a escort business to fund Modelsclubelite lavish lifestyle knowing well that their information is stored. It's up to these mongers. The MCE owners can be found in some ritzy bars and clubs in Chicago ordering bottle service and they get drunk as a skunk and spend thousands of dollars which I don't understand. The wannabe Blondie Barbie likes to work out, yet her vices isn't going to help her. Plastic surgery probably helps her to get the body figure she wants, but it won't last long.
LuckiCharms
10-01-19, 14:28
Under no circumstance we should open up an identity to any agency and / provider, including even the independent like that GPS Princess Isabela Pomares. Once they learn who a client really is, the will never forget. Moreover, all that sensitive info gets planted in their servers, clouds, hard drives etc forever.Look at his old post. The post for LasVegas. He is looking for slender Asians, white and Latina girls in LV. That's what he likes for his business. Same thing when he was on SA. Markus likes them slender girls. He evens tries to recruit bottle service girls at expensive nightclubs to work for him. And if notice, some bottle girls do work at MCE. This mixed Indian guy with his enhanced plastic surgery Polish girlfriend can be seen at those clubs getting drunk. Their even friends with a few top promoters in Chicago. If you see a Indian guy with a blonde Polish girl with big fake boobs, ass and fake lips ordering thousands of dollars in drinks, go up to them and ask them to buy you drinks because they surely have that kind of money to spend. Money they get from girls backs and from mongers.
Look at his old post. The post for LasVegas. He is looking for slender Asians, white and Latina girls in LV. That's what he likes for his business. Same thing when he was on SA. Markus likes them slender girls. He evens tries to recruit bottle service girls at expensive nightclubs to work for him. And if notice, some bottle girls do work at MCE. This mixed Indian guy with his enhanced plastic surgery Polish girlfriend can be seen at those clubs getting drunk. Their even friends with a few top promoters in Chicago. If you see a Indian guy with a blonde Polish girl with big fake boobs, ass and fake lips ordering thousands of dollars in drinks, go up to them and ask them to buy you drinks because they surely have that kind of money to spend. Money they get from girls backs and from mongers.Nice try chloe. This is kind of embarrassing but I didn't even know what markus' tastes are or exactly what kind of lifestyle he has nor what he looks like. And since you keep bringing up a blonde, I assume that's some kind of partner of his? I always assumed he was Polish based on his name. But I would defer that to you because you clearly know more about him than I do. On the other hand it doesn't take a lot to decipher who you are because of how you post both here and ec cie. And for the record I think SA is unsafe and a waste of time, you could dig that up from my posts too among other things.
LuckiCharms
10-01-19, 23:52
Nice try chloe. This is kind of embarrassing but I didn't even know what markus' tastes are or exactly what kind of lifestyle he has nor what he looks like. And since you keep bringing up a blonde, I assume that's some kind of partner of his? I always assumed he was Polish based on his name. But I would defer that to you because you clearly know more about him than I do. On the other hand it doesn't take a lot to decipher who you are because of how you post both here and ec cie. And for the record I think SA is unsafe and a waste of time, you could dig that up from my posts too among other things.Of course you think SA is unsafe. You tell that to the girls you fuck on SA so they can work for you Markus. The girls you have only get 50% cut. It won't be safe anytime soon for the girls you have working for you. Take that as a hint. They are better off being on SA actually. You surely know more than I do JHobby because you're Markus.
Of course you think SA is unsafe. You tell that to the girls you fuck on SA so they can work for you Markus. The girls you have only get 50% cut. It won't be safe anytime soon for the girls you have working for you. Take that as a hint. They are better off being on SA actually. You surely know more than I do JHobby because you're Markus.For all this anti shilling effort, markus better treat me, some sort of perk with the girls would be nice LOL.
Horny Dog #2
10-28-19, 23:56
I've seen stories that would have you believe that the majority of Asian Massage girls are victims of trafficking. This story gives a different view.
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/ywak3j/asian-massage-parlors-with-happy-endings-give-these-sex-workers-a-decent-living?utm_campaign=sharebutton
Horny Dog #2
11-13-19, 20:39
I wish all DA's had the same attitude as the one in San Fran.
https://avn.com/business/articles/legal/incoming-sf-da-we-wont-prosecute-consensual-sex-work-853787.html#.
BedBrayBeyond
11-27-19, 05:17
Interesting read. Safe mongering everyone. It's funny that $10 BJ though, the price is simply way too low!! Dead giveaway.
https://time.com/sex-buyers-why-cops-across-the-u-s-target-men-who-buy-prostitutes/
Interesting read. Safe mongering everyone. It's funny that $10 BJ though, the price is simply way too low!! Dead giveaway.
https://time.com/sex-buyers-why-cops-across-the-u-s-target-men-who-buy-prostitutes/All this time and resources wasted on people having consensual sex. That's more of a priority than catching bad guys using guns.
"60% of the money collected from johns' fines goes to support the Women's Justice Program, the other 40% goes to juvenile justice programs. ".
Who pays for 3 hotel rooms, police salaries, equipment like squad cars, radios etc. But the real price to be paid is that law enforcement is now preoccupied while there is real crime left unattended.
Interesting read. Safe mongering everyone. It's funny that $10 BJ though, the price is simply way too low!! Dead giveaway.
https://time.com/sex-buyers-why-cops-across-the-u-s-target-men-who-buy-prostitutes/
LoveSmallPerky
11-28-19, 13:52
"60% of the money collected from johns' fines goes to support the Women's Justice Program, the other 40% goes to juvenile justice programs. ".
Who pays for 3 hotel rooms, police salaries, equipment like squad cars, radios etc. But the real price to be paid is that law enforcement is now preoccupied while there is real crime left unattended.Those are all paid for with the federal money they get when they classify it under trafficking. That seems to be the main reason soo many are claiming it is all trafficking, so they can justify the man hours, get the funds and not pursue the hard criminals / gangs / murders.
Those are all paid for with the federal money they get when they classify it under trafficking. That seems to be the main reason soo many are claiming it is all trafficking, so they can justify the man hours, get the funds and not pursue the hard criminals / gangs / murders.We the Taxpayers are funding these escort stings.
All this time and resources wasted on people having consensual sex. That's more of a priority than catching bad guys using guns.Don't forget how they all get to pose in front of the tv cameras patting each other on the back and throwing-out their normal platitudes about " stopping human trafficking". WTF?? Really?? Now, the vast majority of the escorts they encounter are of legal age, independent and doing this of their own free will. Many do not have the skills to hold down a 9-5 job and are willingly selling sexual favors to provide for themselves and their children. So by stopping, arresting and fining them; how exactly are you " helping them " Or is it another bullshit holier than thou campaign where you can act like " you're really making a difference " while you harass sex workers and their clients who aren't breaking any laws besides your puritanical views of sex. Really operating as legal bullies punishing regular people while they pretend that " they're fighting crime and saving children from being trafficked ". But they get they face on tv and feed the public their bullshit. Like the big massage parlor bust when they threw out the term of " human trafficking " willy-nilly. They got a lot of publicity out of that. Though months later when it was revealed they made ZERO arrests for human trafficking. But don't let facts get in the way of your " legal crusade". They have all the shootings, drugs, gangs, robberies and reckless high-speed driving under control so they can really concentrate on the real crisis gripping our society, paid BJ's! Rant over.
Interesting read. Safe mongering everyone. It's funny that $10 BJ though, the price is simply way too low!! Dead giveaway.
https://time.com/sex-buyers-why-cops-across-the-u-s-target-men-who-buy-prostitutes/Typical Chicago way of collecting money through variety of fines to support the corrupted administration. The only good thing is that it doesn't go on record so no need to cry although it will be hard to explain to your wife of girlfriend how your car got towed. Also I've never been to a hotel with a keyhole, they all have card even the Red Roof. Anyway we just have to be careful to border line paranoid.
StanleyStankas
11-29-19, 13:03
Those are all paid for with the federal money they get when they classify it under trafficking. That seems to be the main reason soo many are claiming it is all trafficking, so they can justify the man hours, get the funds and not pursue the hard criminals / gangs / murders.That word has become a catch all phrase in our politically correct world. Ditto the patriot act! Really? Take away more of our founding father given rights and call it a patriot act! Before I get flagged for politics I will digress here. This all reminds me of a stripper and topless waitress I represented amongst others in the 90's. One day she comes into my office with a newspaper clipping (remember those?) and says guess what? I am like ok, I'll engage. Now keep in mind even though I had multiple opportunities to pimp out some of these ladies I did not. I am talking bachelor, divorce, card parties is all. Well the article showed her real name, of which since I was doing business with her I already knew, and how a group of girls that she booked as well as herself got busted for prostitution. What she told me line by line and in verse was the following- the cops stayed for several hours enjoying and partaking in all that was offered which of course included the reverse triangle and THEN busted them. She was pissed and one cop told her look if we logged in all of this surveillance time and did not come back with collars we would be chewed out by our supervisor! So I totally believe what is happening here in this current story.
That word has become a catch all phrase in our politically correct world. Ditto the patriot act! Really? Take away more of our founding father given rights and call it a patriot act! Before I get flagged for politics I will digress here. This all reminds me of a stripper and topless waitress I represented amongst others in the 90's. One day she comes into my office with a newspaper clipping (remember those?) and says guess what? I am like ok, I'll engage. Now keep in mind even though I had multiple opportunities to pimp out some of these ladies I did not. I am talking bachelor, divorce, card parties is all. Well the article showed her real name, of which since I was doing business with her I already knew, and how a group of girls that she booked as well as herself got busted for prostitution. What she told me line by line and in verse was the following- the cops stayed for several hours enjoying and partaking in all that was offered which of course included the reverse triangle and THEN busted them. She was pissed and one cop told her look if we logged in all of this surveillance time and did not come back with collars we would be chewed out by our supervisor! So I totally believe what is happening here in this current story.Maybe twelve years ago, a woman I used to see regularly when she came into town every two months told me she got busted by cpd. She had been careful the first time I saw her— insisted on RS then. She told me a guy came to her hotel room downtown who had been cleared by room service. Did the deed and spent about 90 minutes with her and then busted her. They confiscated her phone, her laptop and about $1200 in cash. She called me asking for a referral to a criminal defense attorney which I gave her. Later on, she related that the charges were dismissed, she never got her phone or her cash back. I think most of all, she was offended that the cop banged the hell out of her before busting her.
StanleyStankas
11-30-19, 14:10
Maybe twelve years ago, a woman I used to see regularly when she came into town every two months told me she got busted by cpd. She had been careful the first time I saw her insisted on RS then. She told me a guy came to her hotel room downtown who had been cleared by room service. Did the deed and spent about 90 minutes with her and then busted her. They confiscated her phone, her laptop and about $1200 in cash. She called me asking for a referral to a criminal defense attorney which I gave her. Later on, she related that the charges were dismissed, she never got her phone or her cash back. I think most of all, she was offended that the cop banged the hell out of her before busting her.Corruption and discrimination has gone no where and will go no where. The ghetto will always be the ghetto. Now if one wants to believe the idiot box talking heads, sure go ahead. All for the benefit of the tourista and more important their dollars. That pro I knew started in the biz working for an agency and she also answered phones for them as she had an incredibly sexy and friendly voice. Oh yea! Anyway a competitor dropped the dime on the agency she was working for an when cpd came in to bust all they knew that the owner had cash stashed under the floor under a desk and of course what was reported as confiscated was nowhere near what they actually found. So go ahead people believe the hype. I am an old timer, however I grew up and continue to find out the real truth and think on my feet and with both my heads prior to moving on a situation. Stay safe boys. Stosh. Out!
GoHomeSmiling
12-01-19, 02:41
Typical Chicago way of collecting money through variety of fines to support the corrupted administration. The only good thing is that it doesn't go on record so no need to cry although it will be hard to explain to your wife of girlfriend how your car got towed. Also I've never been to a hotel with a keyhole, they all have card even the Red Roof. Anyway we just have to be careful to border line paranoid.Yeah, it's tempting to think of L E as crime reduction and there is an aspect of their role but the blue are around mostly for revenue generation. Just a few weeks ago was in a hick town with no street lighting no signage, got pulled over and slapped with a ticket because I failed to signal a turn in time. It's like the cop was literally a troll collecting bridge money. "Do you know why I pulled you over?" "Um, because your city has no internal economic engine?
Also, I read this quote from the Time article makes no sense and felt embarrassed for the author:
The sexual cornucopia they think they are owed.
Like if you go to the store and buy a loaf of bread are you accused of thinking you are owed? Does the author not understand what a financial transaction is? Christ.
StanleyStankas
12-01-19, 08:17
Yeah, it's tempting to think of L E as crime reduction and there is an aspect of their role but the blue are around mostly for revenue generation. Just a few weeks ago was in a hick town with no street lighting no signage, got pulled over and slapped with a ticket because I failed to signal a turn in time. It's like the cop was literally a troll collecting bridge money. "Do you know why I pulled you over?" "Um, because your city has no internal economic engine?
Also, I read this quote from the Time article makes no sense and felt embarrassed for the author:
The sexual cornucopia they think they are owed.
Like if you go to the store and buy a loaf of bread are you accused of thinking you are owed? Does the author not understand what a financial transaction is? Christ.Why I pulled you over? My answer for the last 51 plus years- absolutely no clue, officer. Of course most all fuzz especially in our burbs around here are trolling for driving infractions. Cpd tends to not get too involved in all of that unless you are really f**king up. Been my experience anyway. And as far as the altruistic attitude that they are on the job to improve the community and to see that justice is served is complete bs, imo. All the cops I met in chi mostly in 1 or 12 would tell me that no one wants to be a cop any longer. The money is great, ditto the benifits and pension and if a guy or gal went in early they can get out early and still have a decent life left. Also I have met few cops or fire guys that don't have a side cash job. They know in advance where they will be and when as it's all in their union contract.
BedBrayBeyond
12-02-19, 02:50
All this time and resources wasted on people having consensual sex. That's more of a priority than catching bad guys using guns.I agree. They should be catching real criminal acts.
BedBrayBeyond
12-02-19, 02:54
Don't forget how they all get to pose in front of the tv cameras patting each other on the back and throwing-out their normal platitudes about " stopping human trafficking". WTF?? Really?? Now, the vast majority of the escorts they encounter are of legal age, independent and doing this of their own free will. Many do not have the skills to hold down a 9-5 job and are willingly selling sexual favors to provide for themselves and their children. So by stopping, arresting and fining them; how exactly are you " helping them " Or is it another bullshit holier than thou campaign where you can act like " you're really making a difference " while you harass sex workers and their clients who aren't breaking any laws besides your puritanical views of sex.This. If there's even proof that human trafficking is happening I'm all up for support on that crusade, but consensual sex is definitely not the same page as ht. These people are also considered independent workers and it's also a job to them; they just do what they can to provide for themselves and their children. Smh.
Maybe twelve years ago, a woman I used to see regularly when she came into town every two months told me she got busted by cpd. She had been careful the first time I saw her insisted on RS then. She told me a guy came to her hotel room downtown who had been cleared by room service. Did the deed and spent about 90 minutes with her and then busted her. They confiscated her phone, her laptop and about $1200 in cash. She called me asking for a referral to a criminal defense attorney which I gave her. Later on, she related that the charges were dismissed, she never got her phone or her cash back. I think most of all, she was offended that the cop banged the hell out of her before busting her.This is insane. Utter disrespect.
I agree. They should be catching real criminal acts.You think they really are capable of that? If so why does Cook County not address shootings in south Chicago which have only been increasing and they continue doing stings in Orland Park.
Its all a revenue game the latter gets money into coffers while the former costs them lives and drains the coffers to support families of policemen who get killed.
Atleast every other County knows to mind its own business!!
We the Taxpayers are funding these escort stings.And complaining of gun control while we give these high school jokers a gun and a uniform. What a country we live in. Europe is a lot better in this aspect and know how adults should go about their private business.
"60% of the money collected from johns' fines goes to support the Women's Justice Program, the other 40% goes to juvenile justice programs. ".
Who pays for 3 hotel rooms, police salaries, equipment like squad cars, radios etc. But the real price to be paid is that law enforcement is now preoccupied while there is real crime left unattended.Because they are busting folks having consensual sex in their private space can you believe they don't have resources to stop non-consensual sex in public spaces like a garage or university space.
Am sure everyone has seen this - https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/27/us/university-of-illinois-chicago-ruth-george/index.html.
What a sad state of affairs in this great nation.
I wish all DA's had the same attitude as the one in San Fran.
https://avn.com/business/articles/legal/incoming-sf-da-we-wont-prosecute-consensual-sex-work-853787.html#.Californians don't get everything right but they are damn right on this one. None of the governments business.
The owner of Angelli's / ECE was arrested on the 19th of November. They have him on sex work and laundering charges. His court date is the 20th of December. He was working closely with MCE and I spoke with a former provider of his and learned that a few girls were approached by detectives already.
Independent seems to be the way to go. They're not after independents, they want the big agencies with thousands of dollars coming in.
You can find the article on daily Harold, all I had to do was google search William Rybak Oak Park arrest.
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The owner of Angelli's / ECE was arrested on the 19th of November. They have him on sex work and laundering charges. His court date is the 20th of December. He was working closely with MCE and I spoke with a former provider of his and learned that a few girls were approached by detectives already.Anyone know how to get info about what happens today?
LipstickOnMe
12-21-19, 11:44
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Stop doing this shit, this is a web site for men to write about hookers, not a site for hookers to post pimps court dates. This is the second time I've gotten rid of this post, if you go for three your account goes with the next post.
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We the Taxpayers are funding these escort stings.I agree with Ron. Sex for money being illegal is kind of silly. I suspect NY state will soon get some senses and legalize it.
I agree with Ron. Sex for money being illegal is kind of silly. I suspect NY state will soon get some senses and legalize it.All it might take is for one state to legalize Prostitution to get the ball rolling. Just like how Marijuana started.
All it might take is for one state to legalize Prostitution to get the ball rolling. Just like how Marijuana started.Anything is possible in IL when it comes to overtaxing the people, especially if our current Governor thinks he can make a couple bucks by legalizing prostitution and then taxing the fuck out of it.
ApplePiePussy
01-11-20, 15:26
The angle to push towards liberals is that by keeping it illegal, it disproportionately disenfranchises the lives of LGBTQ members, particularly for minorities. And for conservatives, why should BIG government have a say in what goes on between consenting adults? Government isn't part of the solution. It's part of the problem!
ReadyForRub
01-11-20, 17:30
Anything is possible in IL when it comes to overtaxing the people, especially if our current Governor thinks he can make a couple bucks by legalizing prostitution and then taxing the fuck out of it.Try Nevada.
Try Nevada.Nevada only has legal prostitution in certain areas. I'm talking legalizing in each state.
All it might take is for one state to legalize Prostitution to get the ball rolling. Just like how Marijuana started.Just saw on the channel 9 news that Vermont may consider legalizing Prostitution.
Here's the kicker;.
It's being brought up by 4 female state representatives.
The angle to push towards liberals is that by keeping it illegal, it disproportionately disenfranchises the lives of LGBTQ members, particularly for minorities. And for conservatives, why should BIG government have a say in what goes on between consenting adults? Government isn't part of the solution. It's part of the problem!What it should be is decriminalized. It's not illegal to have consensual sex. Just don't make it a crime to have consensual sex for money. As for Republicans, they are more interested in ginning up their base and their base thinks prostitution is immoral. So they legislate morality. And we all know how well that works.
Just my $. 02.
ChezBonobo
01-12-20, 12:11
What it should be is decriminalized. It's not illegal to have consensual sex. Just don't make it a crime to have consensual sex for money. As for Republicans, they are more interested in ginning up their base and their base thinks prostitution is immoral. So they legislate morality. And we all know how well that works.
Just my $. 02.Decriminalization opens the door to sex trafficking. Legalization w regulation allows workers on the up and up to do their thing while still giving the law teeth against sex trafficking. Also you're conflating the evangelical Republicans w Republicans as a whole. The libertarian right is all in a legalization.
ReadyForRub
01-12-20, 17:12
Nevada only has legal prostitution in certain areas. I'm talking legalizing in each state.You have another think coming if you believe local zoning laws will allow legalized prostitution to operate everywhere. Look at the rules for marijuana in IL. Lots of individual jurisdictions have prohibited sale within their boundaries.
Anyone know if she is still in the game? https://www.foxylists.com/nina.
Was an AX staple!Well. After she testified for the prosecution against the defendants I would assume she's now an american citizen in the witsec program working a government job, attending a toll booth somewhere in California. Maybe.
https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/thirty-six-defendants-guilty-their-roles-international-thai-sex-trafficking-organization
Nevada only has legal prostitution in certain areas. I'm talking legalizing in each state.Nevada is a hodgepodge. Prostitution is not legal in all of Nevada, and is illegal in the following counties: Clark (which contains Las Vegas), Douglas, Eureka County, Lincoln, Pershing County and Washoe (which contains Reno). Prostitution is also illegal in Nevada's capital, Carson City, so the small towns have brothels, not the cities. Towns like Elko, Winnemucca, Ely, and Pahrump have brothels, but they are not everywhere.
Well. After she testified for the prosecution against the defendants I would assume she's now an american citizen in the witsec program working a government job, attending a toll booth somewhere in California. Maybe.
https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/thirty-six-defendants-guilty-their-roles-international-thai-sex-trafficking-organizationYeah, I think any AX junkie is well aware of that situation. Just wondering where she went afterwards. I seriously doubt they all went straight afterwards.
Need It Bad
01-13-20, 13:45
This press release sounds nothing like what was happening at AX. The women at AX did not appear to be forced to work.
By the way, how do we know who testified against AX?
Well. After she testified for the prosecution against the defendants I would assume she's now an american citizen in the witsec program working a government job, attending a toll booth somewhere in California. Maybe.
https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/thirty-six-defendants-guilty-their-roles-international-thai-sex-trafficking-organization
How'd you happen to find this?
Well. After she testified for the prosecution against the defendants I would assume she's now an american citizen in the witsec program working a government job, attending a toll booth somewhere in California. Maybe.
https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/thirty-six-defendants-guilty-their-roles-international-thai-sex-trafficking-organization
Well. After she testified for the prosecution against the defendants I would assume she's now an american citizen in the witsec program working a government job, attending a toll booth somewhere in California. Maybe. https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/thirty-six-defendants-guilty-their-roles-international-thai-sex-trafficking-organizationI'm curious to know what they were sentenced to, but Google can't find any info. It's been over a year since they were found guilty.
JohnMBishop29
01-15-20, 00:29
I'm curious to know what they were sentenced to, but Google can't find any info. It's been over a year since they were found guilty.Looked up on PACER and it appears the locals got 1 year and 1 day as sentencing. I believe most of the big players haven't all been sentenced yet, but you can bet it will be more than that.
Need It Bad
01-24-20, 00:43
How can you tell that this Justice Department announcement is about AX? There's no mention of AX.
Well. After she testified for the prosecution against the defendants I would assume she's now an american citizen in the witsec program working a government job, attending a toll booth somewhere in California. Maybe.
https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/thirty-six-defendants-guilty-their-roles-international-thai-sex-trafficking-organization
LipstickOnMe
02-17-20, 21:45
How can you tell that this Justice Department announcement is about AX? There's no mention of AX.It's Ax, that agency was referenced in several websites. Put it this way, if Ax isn't active anymore in Chicago, then it's Ax that got busted.
https://www.nationthailand.com/national/30316395
LipstickOnMe
02-17-20, 21:48
Another agency in NYC busted. As with the previous busts in NYC it involved couples. A couple in Chicago should take notice. The Chicago couple is doing almost the same thing as this NYC couple.
https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/press-release/file/1248171/download
https://www.google.com/amp/s/nypost.com/2020/02/11/pair-busted-by-feds-in-sprawling-manhattan-prostitution-operation/amp/
Website is gone and number doesn't work anymore. It seems that his case might have turned badly and he is trying to avoid more charges. Maybe his boss will hire a new front man and rebrand.
I just wanted to let everyone know that there is a well known agency posting it's clients info online. This owner is a real psycho. European guy that is super high strung Type A Nazi guy. I am not even joking. First the man posts his politics on his escort website. As if anyone buying pussy cares to hear what psycho is ranting about. You can look up his agency on Google. Apparently he got angry because a repeat client didn't want to see an escort that was 45 years old after the profile stated she was younger. So the owner CALLS HIS JOB!!
That is everyone's worst nightmare. Usually we expect it from crackhead hoes. But not from an agency. Really bad judgement call. And if you think the report is fake just take a look at the agencies website! The owner is literally exposing any client he has a disagreement with! Unfuckingbelevieable! I mean who does this?? I have NEVER seen any company do this in my life. And it's not just one time incident. Just look at the blog section.
https://www.ecechicago.com/blog
Now anytime someone googles these men's names it will pop up being associated with this escort site. I understand there are bad clients and disagreements do happen. But jesus this is not the way to handle it. The man has zero tact and acts like a psycho. The worst case scenario. He even posts the customer's phone number, address, and job.
LipstickOnMe
02-22-20, 00:25
Website is gone and number doesn't work anymore. It seems that his case might have turned badly and he is trying to avoid more charges. Maybe his boss will hire a new front man and rebrand.Website is still up.
ApplePiePussy
02-22-20, 15:23
I just wanted to let everyone know that there is a well known agency posting it's clients info online. This owner is a real psycho. European guy that is super high strung Type A Nazi guy. I am not even joking. First the man posts his politics on his escort website. As if anyone buying pussy cares to hear what psycho is ranting about. You can look up his agency on Google. Apparently he got angry because a repeat client didn't want to see an escort that was 45 years old after the profile stated she was younger. So the owner CALLS HIS JOB!!
That is everyone's worst nightmare. Usually we expect it from crackhead hoes. But not from an agency. Really bad judgement call. And if you think the report is fake just take a look at the agencies website! The owner is literally exposing any client he has a disagreement with! Unfuckingbelevieable! I mean who does this?? I have NEVER seen any company do this in my life. And it's not just one time incident. Just look at the blog section.
https://www.ecechicago.com/blog
Now anytime someone googles these men's names it will pop up being associated with this escort site. I understand there are bad clients and disagreements do happen. But jesus this is not the way to handle it. The man has zero tact and acts like a psycho. The worst case scenario. He even posts the customer's phone number, address, and job.If this isn't reason enough not to give up any personal info, I don't know what is.
I just wanted to let everyone know that there is a well known agency posting it's clients info online. This owner is a real psycho. European guy that is super high strung Type A Nazi guy. I am not even joking. First the man posts his politics on his escort website. As if anyone buying pussy cares to hear what psycho is ranting about. You can look up his agency on Google. Apparently he got angry because a repeat client didn't want to see an escort that was 45 years old after the profile stated she was younger. So the owner CALLS HIS JOB!!
That is everyone's worst nightmare. Usually we expect it from crackhead hoes. But not from an agency. Really bad judgement call. And if you think the report is fake just take a look at the agencies website! The owner is literally exposing any client he has a disagreement with! Unfuckingbelevieable! I mean who does this?? I have NEVER seen any company do this in my life. And it's not just one time incident. Just look at the blog section.
https://www.ecechicago.com/blog
Now anytime someone googles these men's names it will pop up being associated with this escort site. I understand there are bad clients and disagreements do happen. But jesus this is not the way to handle it. The man has zero tact and acts like a psycho. The worst case scenario. He even posts the customer's phone number, address, and job.I sometimes get a real kick out of the idiocy shown by mongers. Let's figure this one out. You have an agency owner involved in an illegal activity. That means at any time, he could be busted and his clients, not to mention his girls, exposed. This does not automatically mean he is a douchebag because that would be judging all of us. But unless knowing him personally, why would anyone give him information they don't want exposed? And why complain now because he does it? I cannot claim I know anything about agencies, because I don't have that kind of money for women. But I know this much. I am not trusting ANYONE involved in girl selling with personal information about me.
I'll never understand why some guys have to give out personal information about themselves just to play. I've never given my personal information directly to a girl or used the popluar P411 information site. Why is it necessary for a girl to know everything about you since birth? Every girl I've seen past and present has never asked for my personal information. I just call and set up a day and time to see her. These days when information is being compromised I would never give out my personal information to anyone. But that's just me.
No. It's not up Chloe. William also disconnected the number. Try and call it yourself.
https://www.luxe-models.com
His rebranding with his boss didn't work. He ruins everything he touches. They were good at poaching escorts from MCE and other agencies but now they are shut out William and his boss aren't able to get anyone good. Look at their roster before they closed. Really low quality. Even after he pumped them up with his fake reviews on TER they didn't get enough business. William and anything he touches is toxic. Nobody wants to work for or be a client of a business that just got busted and is clearly going down. There was a famous man called William the conqueror. But this clown is William the agency wrecker.
Kelly Cooper GFE (ruined).
Angellis Angels (ruined).
EEC (ruined).
Luxe (ruined).
I sometimes get a real kick out of the idiocy shown by mongers. Let's figure this one out. You have an agency owner involved in an illegal activity. That means at any time, he could be busted and his clients, not to mention his girls, exposed. This does not automatically mean he is a douchebag because that would be judging all of us. But unless knowing him personally, why would anyone give him information they don't want exposed? And why complain now because he does it? I cannot claim I know anything about agencies, because I don't have that kind of money for women. But I know this much. I am not trusting ANYONE involved in girl selling with personal information about me.Historically there hasn't been much of any problems associated with agencies getting clients in trouble. Many agencies have been busted and client lists exposed. But even in the most high profile cases the law enforcement hasn't used that info against regular men. I mean you can read about many high profile busts in NYC including politicians. Remember Palfrey in DC? Even when the * said she was going to name names she didn't. Her lawyer later on named organizations involved. Dumb move. But still nobody was hurt. Remember Elliot Spitzer? The investigation began with him not the agency he used.
Many mongers like to preach "Oh I would never share info with anyone in order to see a girl" Well those are the same dudes scraping the barrel trash on listcrawler. If you want to see the best talent you play by the rules of this game. The game is not risk free. Those same men refusing to screen end up in other situations with ghetto * and black pimps. You are much safer dealing with an established provider or agency. You also get ease of doing business, variety, and your pick of the best talent.
Anyone with a brain is going to want to screen you. However this case with wacko nazi ECE owner is an absolute first. I have never seen in my life an agency expose clients like this. Totally insane.
If nothing happened to high profile men that used agencies that were busted, then it's safe to say LE certainly wouldn't give a damn about anyone of us. It's way too hard to prove anything. And if LE wants to go after sex industry businesses then the Euro agencies using non residents are going to be the first to fall. Yet they are still here. Literally 262 and the other Euros bring aliens into the USA to work in an illegal business and then launder the cash earned back to Poland. So international "sex trafficking and money laundering". Yet they are still in business. And they don't even screen which leaves them WIDE open to arrest. They also use hotels in the suburbs. And typically that is where all these raids happen. Yet they are still in business. It means it's not much of a priority.
Guess who does get busted? People that don't use reputable providers and agencies. Just look at the seasonal arrests that Dart does. Look at those dudes in the paper and online with their faces exposed and names named. They are all men who didn't use established providers that screen. You don't see clients of agencies getting busted with their mugshots posted do you? No you don't. You see regular blokes that see girls that do not screen and non agency girls. This happens monthly around the country. Most of these raids are going on in Florida, Los Angeles, and whenever our brave evangelical hero Sheriff Dart decides he needs some headline and federal money from HSI. Each time these yokals do a "human trafficking" raid they get federal money. So they need these headlines.
Raoul Duke
02-23-20, 19:15
The owner of Angelli's / ECE was arrested on the 19th of November. They have him on sex work and laundering charges. His court date is the 20th of December. He was working closely with MCE and I spoke with a former provider of his and learned that a few girls were approached by detectives already.
Independent seems to be the way to go. They're not after independents, they want the big agencies with thousands of dollars coming in.
You can find the article on daily Harold, all I had to do was google search William Rybak Oak Park arrest.Every Indy I know has been busted.
Every Indy I know has been busted.That may be the case. However, Indy girls only get slaps on the wrist compared to an agency. In almost every case involving an agency, they're facing felony charges. And typically there will be some tax related issues as well.
LipstickOnMe
02-24-20, 10:20
No. It's not up Chloe. William also disconnected the number. Try and call it yourself.
https://www.luxe-models.com
His rebranding with his boss didn't work. He ruins everything he touches. They were good at poaching escorts from MCE and other agencies but now they are shut out William and his boss aren't able to get anyone good. Look at their roster before they closed. Really low quality. Even after he pumped them up with his fake reviews on TER they didn't get enough business. William and anything he touches is toxic. Nobody wants to work for or be a client of a business that just got busted and is clearly going down. There was a famous man called William the conqueror. But this clown is William the agency wrecker.
Kelly Cooper GFE (ruined).
Angellis Angels (ruined).
EEC (ruined).
Luxe (ruined).Don't forget when MCE started as CEC. The owner poached girls from EEC. When CEC started, they had average to below average girls. Marcus needed good looking girls so he went as far as becoming a client for EEC and poached the girls from EEC. Marcus even went as far as taking away EEC agency booker, Andra. Now, Marcus just goes on SA to get his girls. He practically stole the ideas from EEC and stole the clients list when he dated Andra.
If William ruins everything he touches, well if that were the case. MCE will be ruined too. It's a given fact that both William and Marcus were pals at one point. Both were trying to get rid of EEC. Both of them were in close communication with each other.
William, if he plays his cards right, he won't be the clown. He can shave off his money laundering sentence if he asks for a plea deal by implicating MCE, Marcus. I'm most certain the feds will want to get in touch with him, as he is surely evading taxes in the millions.
Here is one agency or madam that got busted recently in Chicago. This girl ran Kink Extraordinaires for several years, and it took several years to bring her down. It's not only Euro and Thai agencies getting busted, it's also local agencies too.
https://www.justice.gov/usao-ndil/press-release/file/1203506/download
https://www.google.com/amp/s/chicago.suntimes.com/platform/amp/crime/2020/1/24/21080340/alleged-madam-jessica-nesbitt-west-side-brothel-kink-extraordinaires-pole-fitness-erotic-yoga
To Post # 878.
Very rarely independents get busted. If they do get busted, it would be on the news. I haven't seen any independents get busted be on the news.
Your probably got the short end of the stick.
It is more likely agencies getting busted because of the thousands to millions of dollars they bring in. And for sure, Marcus is bringing in dollars that Uncle Sam hasn't received. Uncle Sam wants a piece of Marcus pie. And he will get it. Will should let Uncle Sam know that Marcus isn't giving his slice of pie.
LipstickOnMe
02-25-20, 19:08
No. It's not up Chloe. William also disconnected the number. Try and call it yourself.
https://www.luxe-models.com
His rebranding with his boss didn't work. He ruins everything he touches. They were good at poaching escorts from MCE and other agencies but now they are shut out William and his boss aren't able to get anyone good. Look at their roster before they closed. Really low quality. Even after he pumped them up with his fake reviews on TER they didn't get enough business. William and anything he touches is toxic. Nobody wants to work for or be a client of a business that just got busted and is clearly going down. There was a famous man called William the conqueror. But this clown is William the agency wrecker.
Kelly Cooper GFE (ruined).
Angellis Angels (ruined).
EEC (ruined).
Luxe (ruined).The website is still active.
Someone just reviewed Paris on TER. There are other girls from lux that are reviewed there.
If Will and EEC are ruined, then Marcus should be ruined too. EEC is probably contemplating to implicate MCE in money laundering because of Karma. There were previous post on here (agency thread or bull shit thread not sure which one) and on emails in which EEC was furious that Marcus took his girls, the bookers, and his idea. If I was Will or EEC owner, I would bring down Marcus. There is more to gain to bring him down than not bring him down. They both can have years taken off in money laundering.
Interesting article. Will it happen here.
Gives new meaning to "airdance".
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/seattle-sex-workers-covid19-coronavirus_n_5e69233ac5b60557280fbfce
Interesting article. Will it happen here.
Gives new meaning to "airdance".
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/seattle-sex-workers-covid19-coronavirus_n_5e69233ac5b60557280fbfceMy guess is that it will to some extent. Riskier now than ever before. Thank god for internet porn!!
If you want to see the best talent you play by the rules of this game. The game is not risk free. I agree with minimizing risk. But until the current closure of the northern border, I exported my risk to Canada. Yes, an occasional independent would ask for additional info, but more often then not, there are plenty that don't require it. Other than going to the occasional AMP, in the last five years I never "hobby" with USA Escorts.
ReadyForRub
03-28-20, 17:02
I booked last week and I've not had any issues. I don't think it was any higher risk than going to Costco but either way to each their own. I also would say that we are all adults and if you don't want to risk it then don't book a session. What is it to you if I want to see a girl? Will you be sending these girls unemployment check? You're very ridiculous.Can you enumerate the services you receive at your COSTCO? I have not been able to locate anything routinely acquired through booking services.
GoldenGreek
05-06-20, 18:44
https://chicago.suntimes.com/crime/2020/5/6/21249602/two-men-accused-running-suburban-prostitution-ring-caught-griping-coronavirus-hurt-business
Here is a news article that I found today. Not sure if it was mentioned on the board in the past. Apparently the owners of NG (Norridge Girls) had been under federal investigation and were arrested (at least on of them). Possibly facing deportation back to Poland.
https://chicago.suntimes.com/crime/2020/5/6/21249602/two-men-accused-running-suburban-prostitution-ring-caught-griping-coronavirus-hurt-business?tpcc=email-breaking
Here is a news article that I found today. Not sure if it was mentioned on the board in the past. Apparently the owners of NG (Norridge Girls) had been under federal investigation and were arrested (at least on of them). Possibly facing deportation back to Poland.
https://chicago.suntimes.com/crime/2020/5/6/21249602/two-men-accused-running-suburban-prostitution-ring-caught-griping-coronavirus-hurt-business?tpcc=email-breakingI'm picturing the wild and crazy guys from old SNL.
PunkAsFuck
05-06-20, 20:33
https://chicago.suntimes.com/crime/2020/5/6/21249602/two-men-accused-running-suburban-prostitution-ring-caught-griping-coronavirus-hurt-businessThat was a good run. It was nice to have a reliable source after Pams / Asianxclusive went under. BTW, any guys who are hitting these women for not going bare need to be curb stomped ala American History X. Nothing worse than "tough guys" fucking things up for everyone else.
LipstickOnMe
05-06-20, 20:35
Here is a news article that I found today. Not sure if it was mentioned on the board in the past. Apparently the owners of NG (Norridge Girls) had been under federal investigation and were arrested (at least on of them). Possibly facing deportation back to Poland.
https://chicago.suntimes.com/crime/2020/5/6/21249602/two-men-accused-running-suburban-prostitution-ring-caught-griping-coronavirus-hurt-business?tpcc=email-breakingThat is something new.
Marcus and associates at Modelsclubelite next? The girls from MCE travel to different states. Can be similar how NG brings girls from different countries.
Will from Angellis / Lux-models is already under investigation and was friends with Marcus.
What blew Norridge girls cover?
MoliJohnGuy82
05-06-20, 21:01
https://chicago.suntimes.com/crime/2020/5/6/21249602/two-men-accused-running-suburban-prostitution-ring-caught-griping-coronavirus-hurt-businessMy dad was born in a city that was Germany, but today it Poland. I can now see why you guys want to bust in Polish girls. Don't get busted guys, looks like those Polish dudes are getting hit with a slew of federal time.
LipstickOnMe
05-07-20, 02:47
https://chicago.suntimes.com/crime/2020/5/6/21249602/two-men-accused-running-suburban-prostitution-ring-caught-griping-coronavirus-hurt-businessThis link is more in detail. 40 k a month seems low compared to what Modelsclubelite makes, which is past the 200 k a month.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/patch.com/illinois/chicago/amp/28732224/sex-trafficking-operation-run-polish-illegal-immigrants-feds
Sucks that we don't live in a free country where people can decide what to do with their bodies, money, and time. If these shit head politicians had more than a couple of brain cells and they'd know that prohibition creates the black market that where trafficking, abuse, fraud, and other crimes thrive.
Here is a news article that I found today. Not sure if it was mentioned on the board in the past. Apparently the owners of NG (Norridge Girls) had been under federal investigation and were arrested (at least on of them). Possibly facing deportation back to Poland.
https://chicago.suntimes.com/crime/2020/5/6/21249602/two-men-accused-running-suburban-prostitution-ring-caught-griping-coronavirus-hurt-business?tpcc=email-breaking
https://chicago.suntimes.com/crime/2020/5/6/21249602/two-men-accused-running-suburban-prostitution-ring-caught-griping-coronavirus-hurt-businessSo what happened to the girls? I see their posts are still active.
LeChevalier
05-07-20, 15:35
That's messed up. But I got to say it's criminal to man handle these females. Girls tell me about them getting robbed and bs that follows. Very unfortunate.All that clientele and they can't afford security for their girls? I always thought they had people posted outside in case of shit like this. Not going to lie though, if there's pieces of shit that do this to girls and their bosses do nothing about it, I can't blame them for going to the cops.
MoliJohnGuy82
05-07-20, 15:44
All that clientele and they can't afford security for their girls? I always thought they had people posted outside in case of shit like this. Not going to lie though, if there's pieces of shit that do this to girls and their bosses do nothing about it, I can't blame them for going to the cops.From the gist of these traffic if dudes. All they care about is the money, they can easily replace these girls. Its all money and low overhead— security cuts into profit and building villas back home where ever. It's very unfortunate.
MoliJohnGuy82
05-07-20, 18:58
Sucks that we don't live in a free country where people can decide what to do with their bodies, money, and time. If these shit head politicians had more than a couple of brain cells and they'd know that prohibition creates the black market that where trafficking, abuse, fraud, and other crimes thrive.Honestly guys know what I know now. I prolly would not had gotten my wife knocked up and further married her and bought a house and blah blah blah— I would had saved money and slayed pussy I bought, cause my wife don't like me wrecking her with lust. Think of the housing market and the economy of marriage were decreased 50%. When people get married they spend slots cash money.
LipstickOnMe
05-07-20, 19:58
From the gist of these traffic if dudes. All they care about is the money, they can easily replace these girls. Its all money and low overhead security cuts into profit and building villas back home where ever. It's very unfortunate.There is another that only cares about money and not the safety of the girls. Gucci, Porches, Rolex, money, money money are what he cares about.
ApplePiePussy
05-07-20, 22:50
If this isn't a clear cut case of why it needs to be legalized and regulated, then I don't know what is. At least decriminalize it for the girls and protect them!!
MoliJohnGuy82
05-07-20, 23:48
If this isn't a clear cut case of why it needs to be legalized and regulated, then I don't know what is. At least decriminalize it for the girls and protect them!!From what I get— politicians want people to get married and spend lots of money building families. If dudes realize they are better of buying pussy instead of head aching with marriage— I suppose it would fuck the economy. Why do this and that when you can buy a piece of ass and not be bothered with BS later on.
MoliJohnGuy82
05-07-20, 23:50
There is another that only cares about money and not the safety of the girls. Gucci, Porches, Rolex, money, money money are what he cares about.Who the other guy doing this?
MickSwagger
05-08-20, 16:42
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Of the five richest countries in the world, there are only two where prostitution is completely illegal. One is the USA. The other is communist China. In the UK, Germany, and Japan prostitution is either mostly or completely decriminalized. Until the pandemic, their economies were doing just fine.
As far as marriage is concerned, marriage rates are already declining. That trend is going to continue whether prostitution is legalized or not.
From what I get politicians want people to get married andT spend lots of money building families. If dudes realize they are better of buying pussy instead of head aching with marriage I suppose it would fuck the economy. Why do this and that when you can buy a piece of ass and not be bothered with BS later on.
Of the five richest countries in the world, there are only two where prostitution is completely illegal. One is the USA. The other is communist China. In the UK, Germany, and Japan prostitution is either mostly or completely decriminalized. Until the pandemic, their economies were doing just fine.
As far as marriage is concerned, marriage rates are already declining. That trend is going to continue whether prostitution is legalized or not.Nevada has legal prostitution.
https://patch.com/illinois/chicago/sex-trafficking-operation-run-polish-illegal-immigrants-feds?utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=blasts&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_content=illinois
MoliJohnGuy82
05-10-20, 02:56
Of the five richest countries in the world, there are only two where prostitution is completely illegal. One is the USA. The other is communist China. In the UK, Germany, and Japan prostitution is either mostly or completely decriminalized. Until the pandemic, their economies were doing just fine.
As far as marriage is concerned, marriage rates are already declining. That trend is going to continue whether prostitution is legalized or not.I mentioned already I seen girls around the world that would put American girls to shame. The problem with American girls is the mere fact of the percent that are drug addicts first, then escorts— really they should not even be in the escort bidness. To be honest with you I would be for visa-ing the girls with top quality pussy. Forget about drug addict pussy. When I was in Guatemala they required girls to wash their ass after a client- I remember someone saying the other day talking about right after he send some dna (hopefully to met a egg) down the hatch, the girl did not even take a soft scrub to the slit, she got up and left. Poor quality here guys. Well again, I hope his seed made it to where it was supposed to go.
Nevada has legal prostitution.True that Nevada has legal prostitution. But only in certain specific areas. It's still a no no in Las Vegas.
MoliJohnGuy82
05-10-20, 18:30
True that Nevada has legal prostitution. But only in certain specific areas. It's still a no no in Las Vegas.I think it's one county in Nevada, but it is. It is not legal in the rest of the state. It may not result in an arrest when girls are selling ass in the casinos. But it's still on the books. Again I don't care if it's illegal, the problems are the other things that come with it. The ultimate problem with this hobby is when a girl gets into it who should be working a McDonald's— everyone of us has had that girl. Or the robber assholes who some of us has ran into when looking to see a girl, or that stupid asshole who hides in a room when you are making love or trying to make a baby.
If the European form of prostitution was over here. I would not be married.
ApplePiePussy
05-11-20, 01:30
I think it's one county in Nevada, but it is. It is not legal in the rest of the state. It may not result in an arrest when girls are selling ass in the casinos. But it's still on the books. Again I don't care if it's illegal, the problems are the other things that come with it. The ultimate problem with this hobby is when a girl gets into it who should be working a McDonald's everyone of us has had that girl. Or the robber assholes who some of us has ran into when looking to see a girl, or that stupid asshole who hides in a room when you are making love or trying to make a baby.
If the European form of prostitution was over here. I would not be married.What you are describing is characteristic of the low end market which is dominated by heroin addicts. In 7 years, I've never seen any of those girls. There are plenty of American girls who have invested time and effort into their practice, make really good money, and absolutely love their job.
StanleyStankas
05-11-20, 10:03
True that Nevada has legal prostitution. But only in certain specific areas. It's still a no no in Las Vegas.Not in vegas proper. It is much more blatant out there though and a lot of the SW mongering does go on during the day from what I have been told in pm's and lurking in their forum. It's legal in that one little area where the bunny ranch is located (just how they are doing in this environment we are all in right now, would not know). As far as what they call cg's out there it is known by their police and the security in and all along the strip that guys go out to vegas to drink, gamble, get high and get laid so as long as the girl herself does not have a rep for trouble making and banned from their establishment (which is their privilege) the legal eyes turn away and allow this activity to happen. Girls come from all over the world to vegas as they know that is where all that spendable cash is or at least was! Stay safe all. Stosh imo with peace.
ApplePiePussy
05-11-20, 15:22
I don't know if you guys have been out there, but the hobby out there isn't exactly great. The city went on a rampage and shut down the majority of the massage parlors. This was a good two years before the virus. And the ones I did visit were not that great talent wise. There are a few that have high end talent but they come with high end prices aimed at the tourists at 300 a handjob.
The escort scene is a mixed bag. Most prices are overly inflated as the primary targets are tourists. You can get value but you have to put in a lot of research work and there scams everywhere so you have to be really careful. To be honest, I would rather hobby in Chicago than Vegas. But that's not an endorsement of our city. I would take Toronto, NYC, Philly, SF, San Diego, LA, Seattle, Dallas, and Miami over Chicago in terms of hobby quality.
APP, I agree with you.
It's not too bad here in Chicago. But you have to research and read reviews before seeing a girl. TOFTT usually leads to disappointment.
MoliJohnGuy82
05-11-20, 16:13
I don't know if you guys have been out there, but the hobby out there isn't exactly great. The city went on a rampage and shut down the majority of the massage parlors. This was a good two years before the virus. And the ones I did visit were not that great talent wise. There are a few that have high end talent but they come with high end prices aimed at the tourists at 300 a handjob.
The escort scene is a mixed bag. Most prices are overly inflated as the primary targets are tourists. You can get value but you have to put in a lot of research work and there scams everywhere so you have to be really careful. To be honest, I would rather hobby in Chicago than Vegas. But that's not an endorsement of our city. I would take Toronto, NYC, Philly, SF, San Diego, LA, Seattle, Dallas, and Miami over Chicago in terms of hobby quality.The quality in Chicago is shit, years ago the quality was much better; unfortunately we run into girls with problems up here.
APP, I agree with you.
It's not too bad here in Chicago. But you have to research and read reviews before seeing a girl. TOFTT usually leads to disappointment.Ron, have you seen Alicia lately? Do you know if she's still available and worth seeing?
ApplePiePussy
05-11-20, 22:49
The quality in Chicago is shit, years ago the quality was much better; unfortunately we run into girls with problems up here.It is shit here. It was decent around 2013/14. I'd still take it over LV. I just wouldn't take it over the other cities I mentioned.
MoliJohnGuy82
05-11-20, 23:59
Ron, have you seen Alicia lately? Do you know if she's still available and worth seeing?Yeah guys I was a first, could not find any reviews but I decided to jump in— this girl was posting pic of herself before becoming a drug addict. The manners on that girl. But I smashed her button and deposited a weeks worth of dna in her stomach. She wanted me to tell her when I was going to blow up like the death star — shit I wanted to see up to date photos. This is the poor quality I talk about- once you are in, there are no refunds guys.
I am just glad I made that deposit guys.
So what happened to the girls? I see their posts are still active.Can they come after the clients too?
LipstickOnMe
05-13-20, 19:27
Can they come after the clients too?They can still use the old ads to lure clients.
MoliJohnGuy82
05-13-20, 21:09
They can still use the old ads to lure clients.It is getting out of control with the old pics with some of these girls. About 15 years ago I was lured in to seeing a prego girl. She was so prego that I felt the baby move around as I was making love to his mom. It's like, seriously— you are prego now and was not in the pics. I did not care, I made love anyways. Then with drug addict girls, and the girls who have another girl in the bathroom. And then it became I got a client waiting so can we hurry up. How do these girls expect for us do to maintain chivalry with this behavior.
That girl the other day which I erupted inside her mouth— well that is just ridiculous on your part with the before and after photos. If I knew she was a drug addict I would not even had shown up.
I like mongering in Vegas. I make sure I avoid the people handing out cards or advertising on those trucks (they're all scams) But there's a really good legit scene there. And I like the diversity. I paid $600 an hour for one of the hottest women I've ever seen in my life, and loved it so much I saw her a few days later and spent the night at her luxury condo for $1200. I saw a couple of former cirque performers with unbelievable technique at $400-$500 an hour. And in between I met a couple of low end anything goes types for $100 - $200.
Other than Seattle and maybe SF Vegas is my favorite place to monger.
I don't know if you guys have been out there, but the hobby out there isn't exactly great. The city went on a rampage and shut down the majority of the massage parlors. This was a good two years before the virus. And the ones I did visit were not that great talent wise. There are a few that have high end talent but they come with high end prices aimed at the tourists at 300 a handjob.
The escort scene is a mixed bag. Most prices are overly inflated as the primary targets are tourists. You can get value but you have to put in a lot of research work and there scams everywhere so you have to be really careful. To be honest, I would rather hobby in Chicago than Vegas. But that's not an endorsement of our city. I would take Toronto, NYC, Philly, SF, San Diego, LA, Seattle, Dallas, and Miami over Chicago in terms of hobby quality.
MoliJohnGuy82
05-17-20, 23:03
I been looking to smash a few holes. But there is nothing worth smashing. Anyone checked out some of the girls in town worth destroying. Same old holes that been stretched out like a few tube socks from 1987.
I like mongering in Vegas. I make sure I avoid the people handing out cards or advertising on those trucks (they're all scams) But there's a really good legit scene there. And I like the diversity. I paid $600 an hour for one of the hottest women I've ever seen in my life, and loved it so much I saw her a few days later and spent the night at her luxury condo for $1200. I saw a couple of former cirque performers with unbelievable technique at $400-$500 an hour. And in between I met a couple of low end anything goes types for $100 - $200.
Other than Seattle and maybe SF Vegas is my favorite place to monger.How did you hook up with the former Cirque performers?
I agree our Chicago scene is weak at best. Las Vegas is filled with tourist trap mentality talent. Casino girls are occasionally a good find but again this is more a spur of the moment thing.
The hidden gem that is not a big deal to get to is Toronto. Flights are cheap. There is something for everyone from the street to high end SWers on Twitter. The exchange rate is usually favorable and it's a cheap flight.
You can also score genuine Cuban cigars at the Duty Free shop on the way home.
When things open up again I'll be heading to Toronto.
I don't know if you guys have been out there, but the hobby out there isn't exactly great. The city went on a rampage and shut down the majority of the massage parlors. This was a good two years before the virus. And the ones I did visit were not that great talent wise. There are a few that have high end talent but they come with high end prices aimed at the tourists at 300 a handjob.
The escort scene is a mixed bag. Most prices are overly inflated as the primary targets are tourists. You can get value but you have to put in a lot of research work and there scams everywhere so you have to be really careful. To be honest, I would rather hobby in Chicago than Vegas. But that's not an endorsement of our city. I would take Toronto, NYC, Philly, SF, San Diego, LA, Seattle, Dallas, and Miami over Chicago in terms of hobby quality.
ApplePiePussy
05-18-20, 15:21
I agree our Chicago scene is weak at best. Las Vegas is filled with tourist trap mentality talent. Casino girls are occasionally a good find but again this is more a spur of the moment thing.
The hidden gem that is not a big deal to get to is Toronto. Flights are cheap. There is something for everyone from the street to high end SWers on Twitter. The exchange rate is usually favorable and it's a cheap flight.
You can also score genuine Cuban cigars at the Duty Free shop on the way home.
When things open up again I'll be heading to Toronto.Toronto is a great hobby city. But Canada isn't allowing Americans in for quite some time.
How did you hook up with the former Cirque performers?Well, one used to be a cirque performer and injured herself so became an escort. The other wasn't Cirque but said she did part time at some adult version of it at Caesars Palace that I never heard of.
Well, one used to be a cirque performer and injured herself so became an escort. The other wasn't Cirque but said she did part time at some adult version of it at Caesars Palace that I never heard of.The hobby gets wild as it is. A guy has been asked to bring 1 onion to a meet, another ends up in a dark apartment with a male crack head fcking himself with a dildo and another ends up with a cirque performer.
😀.
https://chicago.suntimes.com/crime/2020/7/16/21326979/some-clients-high-end-chicago-brothel-have-ties-law-enforcement-government-court-filing
StanleyStankas
07-16-20, 16:29
https://chicago.suntimes.com/crime/2020/7/16/21326979/some-clients-high-end-chicago-brothel-have-ties-law-enforcement-government-court-filingAh yes and remember jeffrey somebody as well as the one woman they recently picked up and have in custody that was involved. People like the one mentioned in this article referenced either wind up completely free or completely dead. Hope this turns out ok, however past situations like this usually don't end up well at all. Too much at stake. It's like the pro I knew as a "friend" in river north. She never mentioned names to me directly of course as she was not one to embellish the life. However, she said lawyers, sport's figures and music stars were in her world. She had the money on hand to prove it and yes all in cash. Was a regular shopper of $1 k price range high heels and boots in the $2 k range. She looked and acted the part. All the way boul mich!
https://chicago.suntimes.com/crime/2020/7/16/21326979/some-clients-high-end-chicago-brothel-have-ties-law-enforcement-government-court-filingThis is why I feel like the standard screening practices of a lot of agencies are crazy. They never delete your info, and your information will basically be public record if they ever get busted or breached. Even services like P411 are sketchy. I get that providers and agencies want to know who they are dealing with in order to feel safe, but it's a huge risk for hobbyists.
https://chicago.suntimes.com/crime/2020/7/16/21326979/some-clients-high-end-chicago-brothel-have-ties-law-enforcement-government-court-filingAnd that why I don't like to give out my personal information is this hobby.
StanleyStankas
07-16-20, 19:50
And that why I don't like to give out my personal information is this hobby.The mongers will be the first to be given up! One can hear it now! Oh we don't want you, however we want the sexual predators and child sex traffickers so give them up or you go down with them! They give each other up in those offices. This I know first hand as when the pro I knew was answering phones for her agency one afternoon another agency ratted them out and of course she went down the drain with them. Had to hire a very expensive attorney although he was also a customer of hers so I am sure she didn't get charged by him. Yep, she skated thanks to this lawyer / monger. Be careful. It's just not worth it.
HanginBalls
07-16-20, 20:13
Ah yes and remember jeffrey somebody as well as the one woman they recently picked up and have in custody that was involved. People like the one mentioned in this article referenced either wind up completely free or completely dead. Hope this turns out ok, however past situations like this usually don't end up well at all. Too much at stake. It's like the pro I knew as a "friend" in river north. She never mentioned names to me directly of course as she was not one to embellish the life. However, she said lawyers, sport's figures and music stars were in her world. She had the money on hand to prove it and yes all in cash. Was a regular shopper of $1 k price range high heels and boots in the $2 k range. She looked and acted the part. All the way boul mich!A long time ago (Yes, here's another story!) I was at a bar. And at the end of the bar was a girl named Doris, and oh that girl looked nice. LOL! Every guy in the bar took a shot at her! And every guy struck out!! I felt sorry for her and I figured she just wanted some unpretentious conversation. So, I straighten my collar and saunter over to her sitting two seats away from her. The bartender asks me," what'll you have"? I said," One scotch, one bourbon, one beer" She asked," You going to drink that by yourself"? I told her," Yeah. I ain't got the money for the rent and the landlady tells me to get the hell out! And, out the door I went"! The lady at the bar then pulls up over to me and says, " Have a drink on me!! I'm a rich girl, and I've gone too far, and I know it don't matter anymore". We start talking and yickety yack don't talk back and she asks me if "I'd like to spendthe night together. Now I need you more than ever"!
We get to her room. I look around. Over there. Everywhere. And I notice a baseball signed with a popular (especially for one incident) ball players autograph on it! She spilled the beans. "Look, I'm an escort. I lead a pretty lonely life most of the time and you made me feel comfortable at the bar! I would just like to have someone to cuddle with tonight"! We sat and talked about her life, my life and it was actually quite an engaging conversation. After a couple of hours she asks me if I'd like to join her in the bed. I looked up in astonishment! She felt my apprehension and slowly let her dress slither from her body down to the floor. I looked in amazement! 5'8"s, 130#s of curvaceous beauty stood before me! She took my hand, stood me up and undressed me. A mischievous smile appeared from her face.
I'm not going to tell you the details, but I remember it like it was yesterday! So, yes Stan, there are some escorts who hook up with big time celebrities, actors and athletes!!
https://www.dailyherald.com/news/20180929/bartlett-man-charged-with-murder-of-guard-at-roselle-area-adult-business
"Kyle Gojdas died a senseless death and my condolences go out to his family and friends," Sheriff John Zaruba said in the release. Well, yes sorry guy died, but if you are in the business of ripping people off, something bad is bound to happen.Hey, do you guys remember the shooting mentioned in the above news report? Well, I checked the website of the DuPage County Jail, and it appears that the suspect has been incarcerated there for the past 2 years without a trial. Apparently, he has been unable to make bail.
And, since jury trials are on hold indefinitely due to COVID-19, he probably will not be going to trial for quite a while.
Hey, do you guys remember the shooting mentioned in the above news report? Well, I checked the website of the DuPage County Jail, and it appears that the suspect has been incarcerated there for the past 2 years without a trial. Apparently, he has been unable to make bail.
And, since jury trials are on hold indefinitely due to COVID-19, he probably will not be going to trial for quite a while.Guy drove up there with a gun seemingly to strongarm them or kill someone. He's now living with his terrible decision.
Just heard on the news;.
There might be some sexy flight attendants looking to make money should the airlines layoffs their employees.
Just heard on the news.There might be some sexy flight attendants looking to make money should the airlines layoffs their employees.Sounds like a great marketing opportunity. Anyone monitoring this feel free to take this free of charge (LOL).
Al Melrose
10-01-20, 16:24
Just heard on the news;.
There might be some sexy flight attendants looking to make money should the airlines layoffs their employees.I must be flying the wrong airlines, I have not seen a sext flight attendant in about 30 years!
StanleyStankas
10-01-20, 20:45
I must be flying the wrong airlines, I have not seen a sext flight attendant in about 30 years!When I lived in jeff park I was on the blue line more into downtown to pick up my mail and then back up to the jp station. The younger ones that one will see on the blue line heading to o'hare are pretty darn hot imo in many cases. When on the plane one can encounter the lifers and many of them tend to be the older let's say tired looking women. Ok the reason for my post when I saw the comments. I met a working girl when I lived in the far northwest burbs and she worked for the big airline here that is corporately based here and was indeed an eros girl. She was not super hot and a bit big boned, however she had that look and the clothing to go along with the scene. She told me she got into it by being told how lucrative it was by another flight attendant. So yea it varies, however again it can depend on the girls base location and where they are placed around the country. I took a red eye back from vegas one winter recently and even though it was a budget airline since I am so cheap the young ladies were very attractive and very nice to an old stale f*ck like me! No unfortunately not that friendly! Fly the friendly skies and join the mile high club!! Stosh. Stay safe all.
HanginBalls
10-02-20, 01:53
I must be flying the wrong airlines, I have not seen a sext flight attendant in about 30 years!Caught eyes with this buxom 40 sumthin' stewardess. Ordered a martini vodka and tipped her twenty and she came back w / a double!! Passed out and an hour later I felt a hand grazing my crotch! She told me she just wanted to make sure my safety belt was secure and palmed me her digits! Couple hours later, I call her and she tells me her struggles. We settle on two bills and within thirty minutes I'm in her ass!! She stopped me at three hours and told me," She needs to walk straight"! So, we wrapped it up and took off into the dawn!
Talk about the friendly skies!!
DanglinNuts
10-02-20, 10:22
Caught eyes with this buxom 40 sumthin' stewardess. Ordered a martini vodka and tipped her twenty and she came back w / a double!! Passed out and an hour later I felt a hand grazing my crotch! She told me she just wanted to make sure my safety belt was secure and palmed me her digits! Couple hours later, I call her and she tells me her struggles. We settle on two bills and within thirty minutes I'm in her ass!! She stopped me at three hours and told me," She needs to walk straight"! So, we wrapped it up and took off into the dawn!
Talk about the friendly skies!!That is crazy!! Almost exactly the same thing happened to me!! Except I couldn't put my huge clock in her ass. She said I was just too big!!
I did give her seven orgasms though!!
Many years ago, probably 15, I meet up with this young woman for massage. This was the old CL type of ad. Nice girl great body. Her apartment on LSD. She is in one of the national guard type units. Our massage turns into me eating her out then fucking her. I see her at least a dozen times over the next year or so. She finishes training and gets out of guard and then gets a job with a small regional airline based around nebraska or oklahoma. Every so often she would fly into ord or mke with a layover and occasionally I would meet up with her. I could not believe how little they paid the junior pilots. I mean even when she moved up the ladder to full pilot it was shit wages. I haven't seen her in many years and I know her goal was to transfer to one of the majors for the money but perhaps there are the low on the totem pole pilots looking for a few bucks as well. Every time I fly I always listened to the pilot into to see if she ever made it.
Another bust! Careful guys I don't know what agency that was. If you do please post!
https://news.google.com/articles/CAIiEFwjpZHydC6_PifLcR-My3AqGQgEKhAIACoHCAowv4j_CjCZg_gCMNO25AU?hl=en-US&gl=US&ceid=US%3Aen
https://wgntv.com/news/chicago-news/chicago-man-charged-with-promoting-prostitution-after-undercover-operation/
LipstickOnMe
10-04-20, 22:00
Another bust! Careful guys I don't know what agency that was. If you do please post!
https://news.google.com/articles/CAIiEFwjpZHydC6_PifLcR-My3AqGQgEKhAIACoHCAowv4j_CjCZg_gCMNO25AU?hl=en-US&gl=US&ceid=US%3AenWith there private Incall.
With there private Incall.Is that 2188?
Many years ago, probably 15, I meet up with this young woman for massage. This was the old CL type of ad. Nice girl great body. Her apartment on LSD. She is in one of the national guard type units. Our massage turns into me eating her out then fucking her. I see her at least a dozen times over the next year or so. She finishes training and gets out of guard and then gets a job with a small regional airline based around nebraska or oklahoma. Every so often she would fly into ord or mke with a layover and occasionally I would meet up with her. I could not believe how little they paid the junior pilots. I mean even when she moved up the ladder to full pilot it was shit wages. I haven't seen her in many years and I know her goal was to transfer to one of the majors for the money but perhaps there are the low on the totem pole pilots looking for a few bucks as well. Every time I fly I always listened to the pilot into to see if she ever made it.I used to fly commercial. Low hour pilots take underpaid jobs to get logged flying time to be considered by the larger airlines, like private jet and commuter and small airlines. I couldn't survive on the pay scale so I quit. I think I know who you mean, but can't recall her name. I think she flew with me twice as co-pilot. She was good looking and hard to get to know, but once she liked you she would screw your brains out. If that is her, she quit and took a job with GM, maybe even flying their private jets.
Asian Thai in Palos.
https://patch.com/illinois/palos/prostitution-arrest-made-palos-hills-massage-parlor-police
HanginBalls
12-06-20, 23:03
That is crazy!! Almost exactly the same thing happened to me!! Except I couldn't put my huge clock in her ass. She said I was just too big!!
I did give her seven orgasms though!!Must've been an off night!!
DomCorazon
12-07-20, 00:03
Asian Thai in Palos.
https://patch.com/illinois/palos/prostitution-arrest-made-palos-hills-massage-parlor-policeDoesn't help Lisa Ling had to do another one of her stories on AMPs.
Asian Thai in Palos.
https://patch.com/illinois/palos/prostitution-arrest-made-palos-hills-massage-parlor-policeFunny, according to the review on RM for the place at that address from the article, nothing much was happening there.
Saw this article on Yahoo Sports: https://www.yahoo.com/sports/mlb-umpire-among-14-arrested-in-ohio-sex-sting-operation-010805758.html.
They describe an umpire being caught in a sting, as being caught in a "human trafficking sting" operation. Screw them! This poor SOB got caught, he's being publicly shamed for something a lot of people do (maybe even most) and they have the indecency to claim he's part of a trafficking sting? Who's the one who was supposedly trafficked? Just a load of crap.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/mlb/2020/12/07/brian-onora-mlb-umpire-arrested-sex-sting-operation/6483082002/
HanginBalls
12-08-20, 20:01
Saw this article on Yahoo Sports: https://www.yahoo.com/sports/mlb-umpire-among-14-arrested-in-ohio-sex-sting-operation-010805758.html.
They describe an umpire being caught in a sting, as being caught in a "human trafficking sting" operation. Screw them! This poor SOB got caught, he's being publicly shamed for something a lot of people do (maybe even most) and they have the indecency to claim he's part of a trafficking sting? Who's the one who was supposedly trafficked? Just a load of crap.Sensationalized media, sensationalized L. E. That's what it's all about!! Look how they blasted Robert Kraft!!
Saw this article on Yahoo Sports: https://www.yahoo.com/sports/mlb-umpire-among-14-arrested-in-ohio-sex-sting-operation-010805758.html.
They describe an umpire being caught in a sting, as being caught in a "human trafficking sting" operation. Screw them! This poor SOB got caught, he's being publicly shamed for something a lot of people do (maybe even most) and they have the indecency to claim he's part of a trafficking sting? Who's the one who was supposedly trafficked? Just a load of crap.Everything is trafficking in the media now, whether it is really trafficking or just consensual sex workers. The melodrama gets them more clicks.
StanleyStankas
12-09-20, 01:13
Everything is trafficking in the media now, whether it is really trafficking or just consensual sex workers. The melodrama gets them more clicks.Just checked in on yahoo mail on my laptop which goes to the main yahoo page first and saw the pic. Did not click, however I was tempted. Give it a rest! These guys are on the road all season so what does one expect? And of course everything is human trafficking these days. LEO is saving these girl's worlds. Yes fellas I bet even the pro I knew in river north who was taking down on average 20 k a month (guessing on my part, however within reason when she wore 2 k jimmy choo boots and lived in high end boul mich stores when she wasn't spreading her legs! Yea kid trafficking and any under age imo these people should be broiled, tared and feathered then disposed of, however what this ump did I am sure was totally harmless. A business transaction. And as far as getting caught and moving on let's not us forget the old slick one "I did not have sex with that woman". Course he had his reasons. Just look at that partner!! Ugh. All imo of course and my thoughts, ideas and concerns do not reflect the other forum members nor site owners views and are purely and simply my own! Stosh. Peace, love, happiness in mongering to all and to all a good night! Ho ho h**e!
ApplePiePussy
12-09-20, 15:22
Saw this article on Yahoo Sports: https://www.yahoo.com/sports/mlb-umpire-among-14-arrested-in-ohio-sex-sting-operation-010805758.html.
They describe an umpire being caught in a sting, as being caught in a "human trafficking sting" operation. Screw them! This poor SOB got caught, he's being publicly shamed for something a lot of people do (maybe even most) and they have the indecency to claim he's part of a trafficking sting? Who's the one who was supposedly trafficked? Just a load of crap.Instead of conducting stings in person at motels, they have now moved online because it is cheaper to conduct and requires substantially less resources and personnel. And still brings in the same revenue. The only question is if it's constitutional. It certainly seems like entrapment.
Saw this article on Yahoo Sports: https://www.yahoo.com/sports/mlb-umpire-among-14-arrested-in-ohio-sex-sting-operation-010805758.html.
They describe an umpire being caught in a sting, as being caught in a "human trafficking sting" operation. Screw them! This poor SOB got caught, he's being publicly shamed for something a lot of people do (maybe even most) and they have the indecency to claim he's part of a trafficking sting? Who's the one who was supposedly trafficked? Just a load of crap.This is just crazy. Below are my remarks posted elsewhere on this site, and I thought it would be pertinent to share it here as well.
Yep. This is another example that shows how the system was not built for the common citizens. Most of us live in a dream-like existence. We are the freest people, living in the freest nation, with a system built by the people and for the people. Nice dream, and I know that this is not completely untrue. But the fact of the matter is that in some aspects of our social lives, we are not beacon of social advancement. Yes, here in US we may have achieved some of the highest levels possible, such the freedom of speach or property rights protection, and others.
But in some aspects of our human social lives, we (some of us anyways) are just as backwards, if not more so than other nations. The issue of "Cash For Sex" is one of those that our collective intelligence just embarrassingly fails. In my humble (possibly stupid) opinion, I notice that our culture inherits, some fundamental flaws that keep creeping in, in almost every aspect of life, so as to slow down or completely impeding any king of progress. It is almost like a bug in a software application. You can mitigate it, sometimes win battles, and other times lose. But the more advanced societies have resolved a lot these issues and are better for them.What happens is, I think, the people most interested in imposing (maybe too strongly, shell I say, influencing) their way of life on to others, are those most interested in government and the system of laws. It is not a secret that these people also tend to be the ones who have accumulated more of the resources around them. So they run the freaking show. If you throw in that mix, the superstitious nuts, now you can have a really messed up situation..
LongDStyle
12-09-20, 23:26
https://abc7chicago.com/8605912/?ex_cid=TA_WLS_FB&utm_campaign=trueAnthem%3A+Trending+Content&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=facebook&fbclid=IwAR39340 m1 x_dwzUshvLd4 uK-E8 PLvLWk4 iUI7 YZRBTacOADKP-Jo_d0 PvAc.
https://abc7chicago.com/8605912/?ex_cid=TA_WLS_FB&utm_campaign=trueAnthem%3A+Trending+Content&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=facebook&fbclid=IwAR39340 m1 x_dwzUshvLd4 uK-E8 PLvLWk4 iUI7 YZRBTacOADKP-Jo_d0 PvAc.There is no way that apartment was vacant. And with this being Lisle (DuPage County) and so close to Naperville, I'm sure they will catch these guys before the weekend.
RationalityLoL
12-14-20, 02:00
Guys, what are the typical penalties if you get busted for soliciting?
I have been curious. I figured this may be the right place to post this.
I asked this question in texas. Because its a red state I figured the consequences would be minimal.
Thats actually not the case.
Also, what states have the lowest penalties for this?
ChezBonobo
12-14-20, 07:00
This is just crazy. Below are my remarks posted elsewhere on this site, and I thought it would be pertinent to share it here as well.We are a culture of low information voters. Thus the political incentive structure rewards politicians for the appearance of doing good and not actually doing good. A prostitution sting via internet ads is low cost gets the headlines. Low hanging fruit. The cost of infiltrating a legit human trafficking ring is extremely high however and could quite likely never yield a headline.
Guys, what are the typical penalties if you get busted for soliciting?
I have been curious. I figured this may be the right place to post this.
I asked this question in texas. Because its a red state I figured the consequences would be minimal.
Thats actually not the case.
Also, what states have the lowest penalties for this?I think you're better off goggling it. You can go state by state. If I may, why are you asking? Are you planning on getting busted? Or, do you plan to relocate to the state with the lesser penalties? That could give you a false impression. Even though a state may have laws and penalties, they may not really pursue them. And, probably more likely, it could vary by municipality. Some jurisdictions are not trying to bust Johns or workers as long as it is not out in the open etc. We all know certain towns where any AMP is harassed, until they close, or has to constantly deal with the cops coming in, or after multiple attempts the cops finally have a bust. While other places within the same state never have any issues etc.
I wonder if they had anything to do with the report from last week as well.
https://www.dailyherald.com/news/20201214/2-women-arrested-in-lisle-armed-robbery
They apparently met this guy on a dating site.
Wirelessone
12-15-20, 21:14
I wonder if they had anything to do with the report from last week as well.
https://www.dailyherald.com/news/20201214/2-women-arrested-in-lisle-armed-robbery
They apparently met this guy on a dating site.They interviewed a convicted murderer and I will never forget him saying the internet is the greatest invention for people like him as web sites such as Craigslist, tindr, grindr, Seeking Arrangements bring your victims right to you instead of having to go out and chase them down like Ted Bundy had to.
RationalityLoL
12-16-20, 02:11
I think you're better off goggling it. You can go state by state. If I may, why are you asking? Are you planning on getting busted? Or, do you plan to relocate to the state with the lesser penalties? That could give you a false impression. Even though a state may have laws and penalties, they may not really pursue them. And, probably more likely, it could vary by municipality. Some jurisdictions are not trying to bust Johns or workers as long as it is not out in the open etc. We all know certain towns where any AMP is harassed, until they close, or has to constantly deal with the cops coming in, or after multiple attempts the cops finally have a bust. While other places within the same state never have any issues etc.I am asking to get some practical use cases out of it. I've heard that some people get slaps on the wrist and can go on with their lives where other people don't and end up with mugshots online and it becoming real problematic. I want to know what it entails. I know the state goes down to the county, city, municipality and all that, but I figured maybe somebody here would have practical use cases. If there are places in the country that are more lenient, maybe its a better bet to go there at least periodically. God knows chicago sucks for this type of thing anyways. High cost, terrible selection, always cracking down on it. Jeez. Maybe its time to go to canada once every month or two.
I am asking to get some practical use cases out of it. I've heard that some people get slaps on the wrist and can go on with their lives where other people don't and end up with mugshots online and it becoming real problematic.A lot probably depends on the attorney hired and his experience. Not to mention how deep your pockets are. Example # 1: Robert Kraft.
I've heard that some people get slaps on the wrist and can go on with their lives where other people don't and end up with mugshots online and it becoming real problematic.If you get arrested by the Chicago Police Department, it will most likely be posted on their web site and will probably include your mug shot. I'm not a cop or a lawyer, so I'm not sure how you get that stuff taken down, but I do know a couple of massage girls who have had their online records purged after being arrested for prostitution.
If you get arrested by the Chicago Police Department, it will most likely be posted on their web site and will probably include your mug shot. I'm not a cop or a lawyer, so I'm not sure how you get that stuff taken down, but I do know a couple of massage girls who have had their online records purged after being arrested for prostitution.I think Illinois is a state that has a statute that they will seize your car if you get busted as well. Costs $500 to retrieve.
I think Illinois is a state that has a statute that they will seize your car if you get busted as well. Costs $500 to retrieve.It's up to 2 grands and even more in some municipalities. Stay safe.
OnlyDreams
12-17-20, 02:35
It's up to 2 grands and even more in some municipalities. Stay safe.Real story, Not long ago a friend of mine decided to ride his old bike, it was summer time but kind of late. Anyway, he sees a blond lady in a sexy outfit around the corner. The area is known for street action. So he bluntly asked her how much for a BJ, So the lady looks at him and yells "get the hell out of here or you'll go to jail". Immediately an undercover car pops up out no nowhere and a big guy warns my friend not to cruise the area or he will be taken to jail. They let my friend go without any felony charge or fine.
So seizing an old bike wasn't worth it at all to LE. It doesn't generate any money to the city. On the other had, had my friend been driving even on old car, then his car would have been towed and he would have been taken to jail simply because it brings lots of money to the corrupt city.
TheaSyrian
12-18-20, 05:54
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No obituary notices, we don't want their families running a search and getting the USASG as a return.
A2
Remember this dumb shit?
www.justice.gov/opa/pr/justice-department-leads-effort-seize-backpagecom-internet-s-leading-forum-prostitution-ads
Two years later your tax dollars are still being spent to persecute the people who ran backpages.
Who we elect to state offices matters. Whenever you hear of anyone running for office that supports this dumb shit, get their name out in public and encourage everyone you can to vote against them.
If you have some power and money. Like Robert Kraft. Don't just use it to keep your ass clean. Unlike Kraft, use your influence to get these laws changed once and for all so your dumb ass won't end up in a news report next time you're getting a happy ending.
https://chicago.suntimes.com/crime/2021/2/26/22302666/22-men-arrested-cook-county-prostitution-sting
Twenty-two men were arrested Wednesday after responding to online advertisements for prostitution in Northwest Cook County.
The Cook County Sheriff's Police Special Victim's Unit set up meetings with would-be buyers and an officer posing as a person selling sex at a hotel in Northwest Cook County, the sheriff's office said in a statement.
Once the men offered to exchange money for sex, officers waiting outside entered the hotel room and took the men into custody, the sheriff's office said.
Twenty-two men were issued $1,000 citations for violation of the county's public morals nuisance ordinance, and 19 vehicles were towed under the ordinance, requiring an additional $500 to reclaim, the sheriff's office said.
"Sex trafficking is not a victimless crime," Cook County Sheriff Thomas Dart said. "Many victims primarily women suffer violence and abuse, and my office is committed to offering them the assistance they need while making it very costly for those who seek to purchase sex. ".
https://chicago.suntimes.com/crime/2021/2/26/22302666/22-men-arrested-cook-county-prostitution-sting
Twenty-two men were arrested Wednesday after responding to online advertisements for prostitution in Northwest Cook County.
The Cook County Sheriff's Police Special Victim's Unit set up meetings with would-be buyers and an officer posing as a person selling sex at a hotel in Northwest Cook County, the sheriff's office said in a statement.
Once the men offered to exchange money for sex, officers waiting outside entered the hotel room and took the men into custody, the sheriff's office said.
Twenty-two men were issued $1,000 citations for violation of the county's public morals nuisance ordinance, and 19 vehicles were towed under the ordinance, requiring an additional $500 to reclaim, the sheriff's office said.
"Sex trafficking is not a victimless crime," Cook County Sheriff Thomas Dart said. "Many victims primarily women suffer violence and abuse, and my office is committed to offering them the assistance they need while making it very costly for those who seek to purchase sex. ".Always wondered about this. Has anybody on this board ever been caught in a sting? Have they rushed here right after like "ITS A TRAP DON'T ANSWER THAT AD"?
I did once. Back in the BP days. But it was poorly executed on their part tbh. I didn't suspect anything at all upfront but almost immediately upon walking into the hotel room I figured out that something wasn't right by the way the girl was acting / talking.
Long story short I was experienced enough not to fall for their bait and I never agreed to anything illegal (specific acts for $). They still barged into the room (room had adjoining door to room next door) and did the whole "you're under arrest!" thing. But I told them I never agreed to anything she offered. They had the room wired and an audio guy in the adjoining room. He went back and listened to the tape and they didn't have the goods on me so they let me walk.
I can't definitely see how an inexperienced hobbyist could have fallen for their act tho. Lady cop was actually really hot too. 😂.
Always wondered about this. Has anybody on this board ever been caught in a sting? Have they rushed here right after like "ITS A TRAP DON'T ANSWER THAT AD"?
I did once. Back in the BP days. But it was poorly executed on their part tbh. I didn't suspect anything at all upfront but almost immediately upon walking into the hotel room I figured out that something wasn't right by the way the girl was acting / talking.
Long story short I was experienced enough not to fall for their bait and I never agreed to anything illegal (specific acts for $). They still barged into the room (room had adjoining door to room next door) and did the whole "you're under arrest!" thing. But I told them I never agreed to anything she offered. They had the room wired and an audio guy in the adjoining room. He went back and listened to the tape and they didn't have the goods on me so they let me walk.
I can't definitely see how an inexperienced hobbyist could have fallen for their act tho. Lady cop was actually really hot too. 😂.But did you come back on here and post the ad stating "this was a trap"?
https://chicago.suntimes.com/crime/2021/2/26/22302666/22-men-arrested-cook-county-prostitution-sting
"Sex trafficking is not a victimless crime," Cook County Sheriff Thomas Dart said. "Many victims primarily women suffer violence and abuse, and my office is committed to offering them the assistance they need while making it very costly for those who seek to purchase sex. ".Dart is a clown. More than half the time, he's harming some poor woman who just wants to make some money and isn't being trafficked. And their "assistance" is damaging her business and arresting her if they catch her, costing her money? Fuck Dart right up the ass.
I have a few questions about prostitution stings. The main one is why. The idea is to rescue women, right? Who is being rescued in these stings? Okay, so maybe the idea is to discourage other men from answering and making use of such advertising. So this means men will stop wanting sex or paying for it? It seems to me that even though an offer was made, there were no prostitutes involved and no real sex offered. Wouldn't it make more sense to go after providers offering illegal services than customers that haven't yet done anything? Why is LEO luring men into illegal actions? Once again, money talks. Lord Tom is going after after low budget motel sex. I don't recall any stings concerning the Robert Krafts of the world and the big money deals in downtown hotels. But it gets Lird Tom nice PR for the God people.
I have a few questions about prostitution stings. The main one is why. The idea is to rescue women, right? Who is being rescued in these stings? Okay, so maybe the idea is to discourage other men from answering and making use of such advertising. So this means men will stop wanting sex or paying for it? It seems to me that even though an offer was made, there were no prostitutes involved and no real sex offered. Wouldn't it make more sense to go after providers offering illegal services than customers that haven't yet done anything? Why is LEO luring men into illegal actions? Once again, money talks. Lord Tom is going after after low budget motel sex. I don't recall any stings concerning the Robert Krafts of the world and the big money deals in downtown hotels. But it gets Lird Tom nice PR for the God people.By the way, there has been a lot of news lately about sex trafficking and slavery. Okay, I can buy that. So how many traffickers were arrested in this sting and how massages resued?
By the way, there has been a lot of news lately about sex trafficking and slavery. Okay, I can buy that. So how many traffickers were arrested in this sting and how massages resued?Stupod auto typing. Sex slaxes rescued.
The ad had already been taken down once the sting started.
But did you come back on here and post the ad stating "this was a trap"?
I was, last winter. Woman posts an ad on STG, we text back and forth. Never discussed rates, never discussed acts, everything was vanilla. I'm not an idiot. Well, I may be an idiot, but I'm no fool.
Anyway, I pull into the hotel parking lot where she said she was staying, text her that I arrived. I watch a patrol car drive by, which meant nothing yet. She tells me to pull around to the 'C' entrance. I drive around the building, there's no such thing. Then she says, "Oh yeah, I'm sorry, wrong hotel!" and directs me a half-mile down the road to the 'right' place. I get there, drive to the 'C' building, and BAM -- two patrol cars and an undercover car. Six guys, while I'm in my car still. They grill me every which way, run all my info, scare the ever-loving bejeezus out of me, and then they left.
I have NO idea why they went through the entire circus only to NOT arrest me, or indeed do anything at all. Here in PA the law says that if someone is trying to commit an illegal act, they can arrest-- you don't need to actually SAY or DO the bad things, they just need to have reasonable suspicion that you MEANT to (I. E. , responded to a post on STG). The cute part for me was how they ensured they knew who I was by following me from the first hotel to the second. But the whole thing was just a complete waste of time and taxpayer money. The undercovers said they were part of some county-wide 'human trafficking task force' or some such; but I was supposedly meeting a 38 year old woman. Who is trafficking her?
So, that was fun.
Always wondered about this. Has anybody on this board ever been caught in a sting? Have they rushed here right after like "ITS A TRAP DON'T ANSWER THAT AD"?
George Stark
02-28-21, 01:26
Wouldn't it make more sense to go after providers offering illegal services than customers that haven't yet done anything? Why is LEO luring men into illegal actions?
The feminist bullshit that has infested our legal and political systems says that the women are all victims of eeevilll men. So when they catch the girls, they often get sent to rehab of some sort, for drugs, or "rehab" for prostitution. It's called the "Scandinavian model".
Persecuting and prosecuting men is, indeed, aimed at decreasing the demand. That's also some sort of "model".
Some countries have taken it a step further: it's illegal to buy sex, but not to sell it. That's also the Scandinavian model.
The feminist bullshit that has infested our legal and political systems says that the women are all victims of eeevilll men. So when they catch the girls, they often get sent to rehab of some sort, for drugs, or "rehab" for prostitution. It's called the "Scandinavian model".
Persecuting and prosecuting men is, indeed, aimed at decreasing the demand. That's also some sort of "model".
Some countries have taken it a step further: it's illegal to buy sex, but not to sell it. That's also the Scandinavian model.I don't think it's as much feminism as the fucking religious and social moralism. A bunch of people in our society think sex work is "icky" and that's why they want Dart and other busting hookers and their customers, people can't imagine that anyone could feel differently about than they do and don't want to respect that difference. They can give speeches all they like with their PR bullshit about "saving trafficked women", but if they really cared about ttrafficking victims they would stop busting consenting adults for doing something that harms nobody, go after actual traffickers, and offer consenting hookers protection under the law. It's all politics and PR, which is why Dart always steps up his arrests by a huge amount in election years. It's lazy policing and it harms as many as it helps because hookers can't go to the cops when some asshole beats them up or robs them.
George Stark
02-28-21, 18:25
I don't think it's as much feminism as the fucking religious and social moralism.
. They can give speeches all they like with their PR bullshit about "saving trafficked women", but if they really cared about ttrafficking victims they would stop busting consenting adults...
I think it's some of each. The "Scandinavian model" definitely comes out of the "Man bad, woman good" mindset of radical feminism. (In fairness, there are feminists who favor legalization. But they don't drive policy in most places.).
But there's a lot of Puritanism or whatever you want to call it, driving the enforcement as well.
And then there's the people living whee it's happening, especially with streetwalkers. I wouldn't want that happening in front of my house. But a mile away? Sure, LOL. Of course, the people living there feel the same way.
Also, agreed on the erroneous conflation of consensual escorting with "trafficking". I think most or nearly all of us here will avoid situations involving pimps or other coercive setups. That shit is disgusting
I don't think it's as much feminism as the fucking religious and social moralism. A bunch of people in our society think sex work is "icky" and that's why they want Dart and other busting hookers and their customers, people can't imagine that anyone could feel differently about than they do and don't want to respect that difference. They can give speeches all they like with their PR bullshit about "saving trafficked women", but if they really cared about ttrafficking victims they would stop busting consenting adults for doing something that harms nobody, go after actual traffickers, and offer consenting hookers protection under the law. It's all politics and PR, which is why Dart always steps up his arrests by a huge amount in election years. It's lazy policing and it harms as many as it helps because hookers can't go to the cops when some asshole beats them up or robs them.Consider the towns were AMPs flourish, and what drives that. Or should I say, no one cares. Look at Naperville. That place is loaded with AMPs. It's not a town we would normally associate with the ones that are down on their luck and are willing to let anything exist if it brings in the tax dollars. It very upper middle class. Then there is Spring Grove that just a couple months ago had its one and only AMP shut down. That town is suffering, yet they shut down an AMP you had to look really hard for to find.
And things change. In the 80's if you looked in the Chicago Yellow Pages under Massage, you'd see ads for Tokyo Spa and Osaka Spa, in Michigan City, IN. Nothing erotic listed for Chicago. Now Chicago is loaded.
Hobby Lover
03-01-21, 11:06
If I encountered an ongoing sting there is no way I would post it here or anywhere. Obstruction of Justice or "Interfering with a police investigation" by posting it on the internet when the police have my name would not be worth the risk.
But did you come back on here and post the ad stating "this was a trap"?.
There's a lot of grey areas on both sides of the argument.
Stings used to almost always target the women, but there was backlash, some of it well thought out, that it was just leading to a bunch of young, poor, addicted women getting saddled with fines they'd never pay and court appearances they'd never make with no effort at all to help them out of their situations. So to make enforcement sound more societally beneficial, the focus shifted to 'end the demand' and shaming men caught trying to hobby. It still didn't do anything to help the women that might want help, but at least stopped portraying them as the criminals. In the last few years, the 'trafficking' angle is almost always used, since that's pretty widely agreed on as a universal evil. But as you already mentioned, its much more likely a girl is being victimized or exploited by a local pimp or 'handler' (or even an agency from some of the posts in those threads) than a 'Law and Order' stereotyped trafficker funneling busloads of underage girls in from other countries.
On our side of things, we do need to stop projecting the image of the nice, independent girl just trying to pay her way through college onto every provider that throws up an ad, because unfortunately the truth behind the scenes is a lot of times much sadder. If we ever want to see this legalized, then both sides need to be there, both the free market and removal of criminalization, and support for low-income, addicted, or exploited girls that want help.
I think it's some of each. The "Scandinavian model" definitely comes out of the "Man bad, woman good" mindset of radical feminism. (In fairness, there are feminists who favor legalization. But they don't drive policy in most places.).
But there's a lot of Puritanism or whatever you want to call it, driving the enforcement as well.
And then there's the people living whee it's happening, especially with streetwalkers. I wouldn't want that happening in front of my house. But a mile away? Sure, LOL. Of course, the people living there feel the same way.
Also, agreed on the erroneous conflation of consensual escorting with "trafficking". I think most or nearly all of us here will avoid situations involving pimps or other coercive setups. That shit is disgusting
George Stark
03-01-21, 16:23
Yet another tragic report:
https://babylonbee.com/news/first-inaugural-golden-globes-award-for-actor-with-fewest-sex-scandals-goes-unclaimed
/ s.
RedBaron Daron
03-01-21, 16:28
Yet another tragic report:
https://babylonbee.com/news/first-inaugural-golden-globes-award-for-actor-with-fewest-sex-scandals-goes-unclaimed
/ s.Is it just me or does the award look like it could be used as a dildo?
RBD out.
Yet another tragic report:
https://babylonbee.com/news/first-inaugural-golden-globes-award-for-actor-with-fewest-sex-scandals-goes-unclaimed
/ s.Babylon Bee is similar to The Onion, but not very funny.
ApplePiePussy
03-02-21, 01:10
There's a lot of grey areas on both sides of the argument.
On our side of things, we do need to stop projecting the image of the nice, independent girl just trying to pay her way through college onto every provider that throws up an ad, because unfortunately the truth behind the scenes is a lot of times much sadder. If we ever want to see this legalized, then both sides need to be there, both the free market and removal of criminalization, and support for low-income, addicted, or exploited girls that want help.This is why I don't partake in the lower end of the market. It's rife with this kind of stuff. Guys post reviews of girls passing out during their sessions and other guys want more info. Disgusting.
Decriminalizing prostitution: An idea whose time has come?
https://www.chicagotribune.com/columns/steve-chapman/ct-column-prostitution-eliza-orlins-sex-work-decriminalize-chapman-20210305-f6gk7ojz6rgvpjhujrgz26guie-story.html
Decriminalizing prostitution: An idea whose time has come?
https://www.chicagotribune.com/columns/steve-chapman/ct-column-prostitution-eliza-orlins-sex-work-decriminalize-chapman-20210305-f6gk7ojz6rgvpjhujrgz26guie-story.htmlHe's the house libertarian, so not a big ideological breakthrough.
Decriminalizing prostitution: An idea whose time has come?
https://www.chicagotribune.com/columns/steve-chapman/ct-column-prostitution-eliza-orlins-sex-work-decriminalize-chapman-20210305-f6gk7ojz6rgvpjhujrgz26guie-story.htmlThose who decide do not anticipate a big increase in revenue, unlike with pot. Moreover, there is an army of watch dogs. Jealous, greedy wives. How can a prosperous politician, good hubby' and daddy explain at how that he voted for permission to purchase a pussy.
I'll bet Prostitution is being considered for legalisation. Most likely it's not the Cash Cow Marijuana is. But it's possibly decent enough for taxation revenue.
I'll bet Prostitution is being considered for legalisation. Most likely it's not the Cash Cow Marijuana is. But it's possibly decent enough for taxation revenue.Let's hope, because it will bring some new, better talent and the prices will go down, as well, due to real competition.
Let's hope, because it will bring some new, better talent and the prices will go down, as well, due to real competition.With taxes, licensing fees, and other fees, legal prostitution will be more expensive. I doubt indies and massage parlors will go away.
Marijuana black market is thriving in the legal Marijuana era.
Decriminalizing prostitution: An idea whose time has come?
https://www.chicagotribune.com/columns/steve-chapman/ct-column-prostitution-eliza-orlins-sex-work-decriminalize-chapman-20210305-f6gk7ojz6rgvpjhujrgz26guie-story.htmlAt some point, it needs to be tried in a large city like Chi-Town or NYC or LA where progressives can make it a reality and start turning public opinion like it was turned for legalizing pot.
Very few people in non Bible Belt areas would be opposed to it as long as minimum age of both providers and clients is 21 and written consent is obtained and kept on file.
With taxes, licensing fees, and other fees, legal prostitution will be more expensive. I doubt indies and massage parlors will go away.
Marijuana black market is thriving in the legal Marijuana era.Yea because bm marijuana is cheaper and just as good.
HappyJack42
03-13-21, 00:56
I'll bet Prostitution is being considered for legalisation. Most likely it's not the Cash Cow Marijuana is. But it's possibly decent enough for taxation revenue.I'm sure if the Fat Man is Springfield thinks he can tax it, he will legalize it.
https://www.11alive.com/article/news/crime/spa-killings-atlanta-cherokee/85-d8b55ae6-d3e5-44d2-975c-6334bcd27633?ref=exit-recirc
Things may get a little dry do to this idiot.
Big Waffle
03-18-21, 15:17
"He apparently has an issue. What he considers a sex addiction and sees these locations as something that allows him to go to these places and it's a temptation for him that he wanted to eliminate.
Dude was probably a religious nutcase from the looks of this. People are saying this was a racially motivated crime, but nah, just look at the guy's face. He probably fucked or got a handy from nearly every one of those women many times before going nuts. I'd bet you a buffalo nickel that ideas about religious purity drove this guy to "purify" himself of temptation, and the fact that the victims were mostly asian was just happenstance. Damned shame.
DeepBlueBc
03-18-21, 15:27
Yea because bm marijuana is cheaper and just as good.In IL yes, but in CA there are plenty of shops to get shit at the same price, such that there is a shift away from the bm.
The bm will always exist, but the legalisation is about getting as much away from the bm, and into taxable territory. Which has been a success.
In short, give it time.
"He apparently has an issue. What he considers a sex addiction and sees these locations as something that allows him to go to these places and it's a temptation for him that he wanted to eliminate.
Dude was probably a religious nutcase from the looks of this. People are saying this was a racially motivated crime, but nah, just look at the guy's face. He probably fucked or got a handy from nearly every one of those women many times before going nuts. I'd bet you a buffalo nickel that ideas about religious purity drove this guy to "purify" himself of temptation, and the fact that the victims were mostly asian was just happenstance. Damned shame.He's the right age for being part of the incel / MGTOW movement who spend all their time online complaining about how much they hate women and how their only path to liberation is to remove all sexual urges, because it is through their sexual urges that women exercise their power over men, etc. Whenever they fail, mainly from masturbation, they get really, psychotically upset with themselves about it. Really batshit stuff.
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