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Hi to the Arizona board members,
Let me tell you a little about what I know of the Oriental prostitution scenarios. I am in NYC and there are plenty of AMPs and Incall places. The term "sex slaves" is a bit strong and really is not accurate. Many of the women who work in the sex industry is not forced in the sense that there is a evil master who forces them into selling themselves. Most of them are forced into the trade because of economic consideration of their own. I know the majority of the oriental sex workers are from Korea and Southeast Asia. From my understanding most Southeast Asains came to US on tourist visa and was supposedly working only for 3 to 6 months only. They were leased to individual incall/outcall places on monthly fee and while working they still get a portion of the fees they earned. They are mostly contract sex workers not slave. I have been many of them and they clearly understand what they were doing and no sense of being exploited. They still get a day off every week just like a regular working person.
Of course all this is not to say there is no situation where girls were forced into prostitution. I know some girls from southern China were forced into prostitution after arrival in US and not being able to clear their debt of being smuggle into the US. I also understand in most of cases where a girl is forced were often kept in area where most people around are Chinese so less likely being exposed to the public and the police. It is very unlikely that you guys in Arizona is going to meet an enslaved women. I just thought you might be happy to know you are not paying the slave master for a pussy.
Tango Alpha
12-25-02, 01:58
Why was Santa Claus happy three times on Christmas Day?
Because he had a ho
a ho
and a ho
Buster Cherry
12-25-02, 20:27
BigJohn, the slave runners are the ones they are busting.
In the 60's I used to work for a mobster in Texas who used to control all the gambling and liquor in the West Texas area.
All the prostitution was controlled by others loyal to the same sydicate out of Dallas which was under Marcello's group of New Orleans. In that same manner, they used to run white girls who were enslaved by having to pay off huge lebts like lawyer fees etc. The syndicate kept their kids in various homes in Dallas and they were never allowed to go anywhere alone especially with their kids. The brothel owners used to house them all together in a small 2 bedroom house, often 4 girls to a full bed. They sold pussy at a another house across town where the bootlegging and gambling went on. Syndicate girls were rotated out on a regular basis and given controlled time off too.
I used to make bootleg liquor runs to those houses for years. That's when I learned to give up chasing crappy free pussy because you could pay for knockout quality pussy and not have to go through a bunch of bullshit (or waste money) to get it.
Buster Cherry,
Well said.
Originally posted by buster cherry
That's when I learned to give up chasing crappy free pussy because you could pay for knockout quality pussy and not have to go through a bunch of bullshit (or waste money) to get it.
I agree wholeheartedly. You get what you want, they get what they want. They leave after it's over. No muss, no fuss, no lies or deception (hopefully). It's a wonder that it's illegal. It would be nice to find a "house" in Tucson. Somewhere you can go in, look at the selection, pick which one you want, know what you're getting, get it and split. I've heard that a house was just broken up in Tucson about a year ago. I think it was on 4th ave. I wouldn't doubt that there are others, but I suppose they don't exactly advertise in the Arizona Daily Star. You kind of get that in Nogales, but the accomodations could be a little better and the drive back and forth keeps me from going as often as I would like (probably a good thing).
Mystic Pimp
12-26-02, 18:33
This one dude had a comment on his pursuit of the hobby, saying his "sexual matters were turning into shades of gray"...which I thought was pretty interesting. I hate to think the illegal Mexican chicks will only go for the Mexicanos and not other men. But I guess that is life.
picked up "michelle" young blonde sw, who says she is 18. once on romero and twice on the west end of miracle mile. i wrote about her before. that i saw her and thought she looked good but wasn't getting into the cars who stopped (including mine). she comes out at about 4:30 to catch the guys coming home from work. nice body, smooth, unblemished skin, the first time i picked her up she wanted $30 for a cbj. i was just coming home from work and wasn't really out scouting and those prices are higher than what i'm used to. also, even though i know i should always use protection, to me there's a big difference between a cbj and a bbbj. and the difference is big enough to risk the health concern (i ride a motorcycle w/o a helmet for the same reason). next time i picked her up she agreed to bbbj and fs for $40. i didn't make it to the fs. with some women, i can last while they suck all day and other women just hit the right nerves i guess. i still gave her $40. then i picked her up last night and brought her back to my place. she said she didn't like leaving the mm/prince area and would i give her a little extra to make up for the time it was taking. $60, no problem. i've paid twice as much on an escort that didn't look half as good. it was a good time and i expect to be seeing her again. one problem though, and this is something i've experienced with other sw (and escorts). is she really 18? i know some of the legal ramifications of getting caught with a pro, but an **** pro? that scares me. for all i know, you would have to register as a sex offender. maybe i should ask for id?
Has anyone been to Angels Heaven lately? Their website has been down for a while (http://www.angelsheaven.com) so I was wondering if they're still around.
Thanks!
DH, Where are you finding girls on the west end of MM,and where on Prince?Which end of Romero?I sometimes see girls over by the Monterray on the east side,but pretty seldom.I sometimes see girls walking up that sidestreet next to the Monterray but LE police that pretty frequently.
Went cruising MM last night looking for Shae (?), the dark skinned black woman with the big tits. I didn't see her but I saw LE more than I wanted, so I drove home. Does anyone know of a way to contact Shae? I love busty black women and she sounds like a good time.
Lvlatinas...if you give me some info on where to find SW's and then I'll let you know how to find Shay.
Originally posted by Borderguy
DH, Where are you finding girls on the west end of MM,and where on Prince?Which end of Romero?
I see girls the whole length of MM. When I say the west end of MM, I mean before I-10 around the corner of Flowing Wells. I normally turn onto Romero right before I-10 and see SW's from MM the whole way up to Prince but normally they are south of Fort Lowell. I've also seen girls on Ft. Lowell between Romero and Flowing Wells. I've seen girls on Prince from Romero to 1st but normally they are between Stone and First. Sometimes I go out and see lots of girls, and sometimes I only see 1 or 2.
I've seen Shay more than once on 14th Ave. Sometimes near the hotel at the corner of MM and 14th (I believe she stays there) and also down 14th south of Kelso. I have also seen her at the bus stop on Oracle in front of the Adult theater (Miracle Mile theater I believe). If you like busty black women, she is your girl. When I first saw her, I didn't know if she was working or not. She wasn't giving the normal cues. But if you see her, I think you'll know who she is. Dark-skinned, long hair, huge breasts but not overweight.
I went to Angel's heaven about 2 weeks ago and posted about it here on 12-19. I can get to the website no problem. It isn't that impressive though. I think it would be a better advertising tool if they posted some actual pictures of the girls that work there. There are some real cuties. I believe "Pure Bliss" in the TW, is a girl who used to work at Angel's and called herself "Spanish Angel" (another girl at Angels has since taken that name) , or "Divina". I've called to set up appts, but there was always a long wait of a few hours (maybe a good sign) and most of the time, I don't feel like waiting.
Originally posted by Luvasian
Lvlatinas...if you give me some info on where to find SW's and then I'll let you know how to find Shay.
I don't have anything I could share since I don't risk the SW thing. I don't want to be the next TPD poster child. I'm breaking my own rule for Shay simply because a busty, dark skinned, black woman is a rare and beautiful thing. Normally I go the escort route - it feels a little safer to me. I used Accolade sometime back and enjoyed the company of Piper, busty and multiracial, on a few occasions. Would love to see her again! My most recent foray into the hobby was with Olivia from escortsdotcom. Despite what was posted previously, I found her to be a great GFE. I've tried a few of the adult personals in the TW and had some very good luck there. One in particular lasted about a year before it ended. Hot latina, while her husband watched!! DH says Shay can be found around 14/Kelso but when I circled that the other evening I ran into LE twice in less than a minute - NOT A GOOD SIGN. One of them was parked with his lights off and I didn't see him until I was about five feet away. If you have a way of contacting Shay that you'd care to share that would be nice, if not that's fine too.
Mystic Pimp
12-30-02, 15:19
As far as this "Michelle" girl goes, she may or may not be legal. She supposedly didn't have ID...if you guys go out a lot, most street girls (at least that I have seen) NEVER seem to have ID on them. So that doesn't really prove anything.
It seems that the area bordered by Miracle Mile, Flowing Wells, Prince and Romero is hot right now. Mostly trailers and apartments in the neighborhood. I like its proximity to I-10 in case one has to get the fuck outtta there in a hurry. Don't know if most of the girls in the area live there or come from other parts of town.
Mystic Pimp
12-30-02, 19:04
One comment on the strip clubs around here. I hear that after 1 AM, the dancers do NOT take their clothes off. Yet they still get tips and all. What kind of BS is that? If I wanted to pay some chick to keep her clothes on, I shouldn't even be in the club. That is ridiculous (unless they are just hideous to the eye, in which case they shouldn't be dancers anyway). I hope not too many of you guys are supporting the after 1 AM strip scene. If so you need to be slapped silly, and be banned from ever having sex again....
Lvlatinas....call Sunland Hotel and ask for room 18. That's
where she was staying last time I talked to her.
Saw Shae yesterday afternoon walking down 4th st just south of Glenn. I wasn't out looking, was just going home, but I just couldn't resist them big 'ol titties. I wanted to go to her motel room, but she said that the owner was around so we parked for a $20 bbbj and I got to play with the twins.
Went to the Candy Store for the 2nd time. I normally go to Curves or Td's West because they are close, but I felt like riding the bike a little. I would say that Curves has the most attractive women. The Candy Store had some cuties though and the vip is $10 entry and $10 a dance. It is completely closed off the rest of the club and when I was there no one looked in. ($10 dance area at Curves is right next to where the bouncer stands and they keep checking in) It was pretty much do what you want but I don't normally press it. Both times, the dancers were both working on Mr. happy with their hand and mouths (through the jeans). I would assume YMMV greatly depending on the girl. Another, even better reason to go, Candy store has free pizza. :-)
Have been trying to hook up with Pure Bliss in the TW, but everytime I call, there is a long wait to make an appt. If anyone has seen her, I would appreciate some info.
WorldTraveller
01-01-03, 21:22
Seems that the Street Scene has been very hit or miss lately. The other morning at about 6:30, I was going west on drachman, as I passed the Meet Rack (bar) there was a chunky Latina hitchhiking. I went around the curve, then went back but she was already gone in the minute it took me to come back.
Have not seen a whole lot of action, even on the Romero curve, I guess that is more or less hit or miss too, I have gone there different times throughout the day, nothing!
Saw "Mandy" from the TW who is also "Amazing Amanda" . Set up for 1/2 hr FS Incall for $100.00. I'm always a bit cautious, so I asked if there was going to be anyone else there she said no. Also asked what would be satisfactory if I show up and she isn't my type. She said it never happened before and she supposed there would be some sort of cancellation fee, but she didn't know how much it would be. I showed at her house on Loretta which is right around Grant and Country Club. When I walked up to the door, I heard it closing. I knocked a few times and no one answered. I went around to the other side of the house and through the gate, knocked on the other door and after I waited for a little bit (less than 2 minutes) a girl answered. I went in and before I could get a good look at her she turned and said, "I need to finish putting on my makeup." I look around and, although it is a nice house, it is in disarray. The oven is on and open (I assuming it was heating the place). Stuff piled everywhere. Maybe she just moved in. I don't know and really, I care a lot more about what she looks like than what her house looks like. So I am waiting and I hear her talking to someone. Then a short little guy comes out and starts leaving. She says, "he was just putting up some curtains." I'm about to leave too. Too much bullshit. But I want to get a look at her first. I can put up with some bullshit if she's looking good. I go to the bathroom where she is. She was mid thirties maybe, skinny but with a little pauch, pale skin, blonde hair. Not much better ( if any better) than what you can find on the street for half the price. I leave w/o saying goodbye. I figure, the fact that there was someone there when she said there wasn't going to be, negated the deal from the get-go. It could be that some people use escorts instead of SW's because they think it is safer with regards to LE or they don't like driving around looking, or they don't want to get a hotel room and don't like sex in the car. (I don't, but will) If that's the case, then maybe Amanda is all right. (I didn't get far enough to find out if her definition of FS is what I consider to be FS) When I go to an Escort and pay escort prices, I think the quality (in looks and attitude) should be higher than what you find on the streets. Another thing I'm finding is a lot of girls have more than 1 add in the TW under different names. Also, some girls will run an ad under on name for a while then put in an ad under a different name. There is a Lisa and Heather (If I remember right) that are the same person. Will only see people during the day. $180 FS for an hour, no 1/2 hr available, only incall. I asked what if when I get there your not my type. She said it never happened and won't happen but if you don't like me, you pay the $180 and go. Her description of herself got me really interested though. Long red hair, athletic body. She wasn't available when I called and I normally work during the day, but I may keep trying to get together with her. If anyone has info on her, I would appreciate hearing it.
TucsonChief
01-04-03, 02:27
went back to angels heaven. what a great place.
saw baby angel, beautiful, and very nice. her attitude is very well appreciated.
anyone who hasn't checked this place out should. its a good deal, a little pricey, but shit, when you think about the quality you get there as opposed to nogales or the strip clubs in tucson its a deal.
Mystic Pimp
01-06-03, 05:39
I've heard from a friend that there's a lady in the central part of town that does the ocassional massage. Don't know about extras (YMMV), but I think she charges a min of $60, and has at least one friend that works w/ her. May be worth checking out, area of Speedway and Alvernon.
WorldTraveller
01-06-03, 17:08
Poppa,
Get me the contact info. I will give it a try and report back to everyone.........
Street Scene still somewhat bleak as you all are aware. I still check out the Romero/Miracle Mile/Prince/1st Ave/Stone area and I rarely see much, saw a few that I wouldn't slow down for.
WorldTraveller
01-06-03, 21:45
Okay, finally saw some major activity, but didn't get in on any. Had lunch at the Burger King, columbus/22nd, a pick-up pulls in and parks in back, passenger leans over, after a few minutes she opens door and spits....Hmmmmmmmmm.....getting the taste of burger king outta your mouth is hard to do. They left towards alvernon. I leave and am heading back east, when I see a woman between the family dollar store and the old "inn and up" halfway house complex, kinda standing like she is waiting for someone, but giving all the signs, I pull around and turn in to the family dollar parking lot, she starts to come over to where I parked, when a pick-up pulls into the drive way, they negotiate, she gets in, they leave. I go up to alvernon and see some people hanging around the walgreens, I pull into the lot, circle it once and park. There were 2 women working the lot, one looked like she didn't have any teeth, maybe homeless, but appeared clean and had clean clothes on, she was gone and back several times while I was sitting there watching, the other one had make-up on, wasn't too bad looking but was definately strung out on something and was way to wierded out for me to let her into my car, besides her pimp was standing by the payphone watching her pretty intensely, motioning to her to go to different vehicles that would pull in. The main thing that bothered me was there seemed to be way too many people sitting in their cars watching all of this go down. Made me feel a bit uneasy. There was another that was by the bus stop at columbus/22nd that didn't get on 2 buses that came by, but was kinda standing around the bus stop watching traffic, giving all the looks and signs, I pulled into the library parking lot and she started coming over, then LE pulled into the Golden Corral and she turned back around, I decided to get out of the area.
Area seems hot for right now and it ain't even the end of the month.
Does any body know about an escort named Dana Leigh? She is a 20 something blond that claims she was a dancer in Tucson scene?
I just want to be sure she is for real. Any info would be appreciated!
LoveLOS
CrazyBuzz1985
01-07-03, 14:55
With Tucson being so crappy for hobbists, I don't understand why the kAMP scene from Phx hasn't made its way down to Tucson. It made a great transition from LA (whose new police chief is now cracking down) to Phx. Why not Tucson???
Mystic Pimp
01-07-03, 18:40
Good question...maybe cuz Tucson is a smaller metro area than LA and Phoenix.
Originally posted by crazybuzz1985
With Tucson being so crappy for hobbists, I don't understand why the kAMP scene from Phx hasn't made its way down to Tucson. It made a great transition from LA (whose new police chief is now cracking down) to Phx. Why not Tucson???
CrazyBuzz1985
01-08-03, 02:52
Originally posted by NotoriousPoppa
Good question...maybe cuz Tucson is a smaller metro area than LA and Phoenix.
That's true except for the fact there is a large air force base and college in town. Sacramento has plenty of AMPs.
marlin_007
01-08-03, 15:45
Jennifer Pleasures of El Paso is thinking of making another run through Tucson! I've seen her 3 times now and they have all been nothing short of mind blowing. Check her out at
http://www.jpleasures.com
She is a black BBW but don't be fooled this lady will rock your world!
lvlatinas you mentioned how much you enjoyed Shay, I haven't yet had the pleasure but you may want to check out Jennifer, she's got the bust you like and she likes them handled rough! She's just too much fun!
WorldTraveller
01-08-03, 21:59
We used to have many massage parlours here in tucson, I am thinking about 20 years ago or so,most of them were in the county rather than within the city limits. Rumor had it that the sheriff was in on them, or taking a cut for protection. There may have been some validity to this, as they were all closed down for various reasons after a "new" sheriff was elected. There has never been anything much here since then. City of Tucson has "small town" leadership and law enforcement, I think it will be a very long time before we see anything in the massage parlour business here in Tucson. LE gets excited if they can bust a citizen trying to get a little sex, because they apparently can't control or do anything about any of the crimes against property such as graffiti, theft, arson, robbery, car-jacking, the list goes on. It takes less competency to watch a SW and bust the john than to actually do something productive for the paycheck that WE are writing them. Anyway, I work in Phoenix alot, so I get to many of the AMP's there. Until there is some housecleaning in the County Board of Supervisors, City Council, Police and Sheriff's Department, we will have to put up with them protecting us from ourselves. Afterall, they know what is better for us than we do!
I find it ironic that in forums such as these, that when AMP'S are readily available in Phoenix, we stay right neck in neck with them as far as number of posts goes. Phoenix is far above us when it comes to availability of sex for sale/rent.
Mystic Pimp
01-09-03, 02:01
Phoenix has it over Tucson, I think more due to its population and various suburbs. If I could, I think I would go to Phoenix more, not just for sex, but in general...but that's another story. My personal goal is to check out other southwestern metro areas, namely Phoenix, Las Vegas, El Paso and the two in Southern California...all for various reasons. I'd wanna check out the other major cities in Texas too...as well as all the border towns to Mexico.
One thing I saw of interest today, an unmarked 2002 Chevy Venture, beige, being used by LE. I saw it in the area of Mission and Drexel. Can't even tell it's a cop vehicle until the lights are flashing.
Also wondering if you locals know how many cab companies operate in the Tucson area. I wanna know about the smaller companies...ie other than Yellow Cab and Allstate. My friend drove cabs for a while, said he saw all kinds of shit all over the metro area, and being in a cab helped him out a lot. He got to sample what was out there w/o always being at risk with LE. So something I'm gonna consider.
On the other hand, maybe I should quit looking for hookers on the street. Haven't picked one up since May 2002...but I've been not gettin any recently, so sooner or later...I dunno...
WorldTraveller
01-09-03, 19:02
Desert Guy......I would probably go with a group, I am not real hot about Mexico as a general rule, but there is safety in numbers. I am not suggesting 10-12 guys go, but a few guys would be fine. If you look on the mexico board in the Nuevo Laredo section, 4-5 guys have hooked up together on the other side of the border, then posted details, sounds like they had a good time.
I had suggested long ago on the Nogales board that a group of guys go down, it was more or less shot down because the comment was made that they didn't want to compete for "a few" ladies with a bunch of guys, I say 3-5 guys going down would be good. If you don't wanna hang with the group then go your own way I say.
This may be better discussed on the Nogales section of the Mexico board.
Will keep my eyes peeled there.
So I went to Angel's Heaven to check it out. Facilities were about what I expected. There were 3 *gorgeous* girls waiting when I got there, the oldest of which looked 25. They really were all very attractive. Ultimately I got massaged by "Heather", a 20 yo or so blonde hardbody. Very beautiful. 55 for 1/2 hour, 70 for the full hour, so I went for the full hour.
Unfortunately the massage was very cold and mechanical - it was like being massaged by a robot. Very disappointing. From this board it sounds like some of the other girls might be better. ["Jennifer" (a beautiful young brunette) was also working - anyone been with her?]
Total cost was 140 for the same service everyone else reports. This is high but I'd pay this much in a strip club for less action, so the cost doesn't bother me as much as the service. Angels Heaven is a bit too pricey (in LA I could get better service for less money) but if there's a beautiful girl working there who'll get into it a little more and talk dirty or something then I will truly have found heaven. Clearly I have more research to do...
Merlin Magician
01-09-03, 21:46
An earlier poster here mentioned that this Tucson board despite the lack of credible massage parlors and providers seems to outrun or keep pace with Phoenix. That is wierd, yes. Before the New WSG, that was not the case.
Also the last review on Angel's Heaven seems to indicate that the massage market in Tucson is still strangulated somewhat.
Hell, for what one spends on one visit in Angel's heaven, you could drive to Phoenix or even LA, get some nice massage service and come back with gas and food money to spare. (or drive to Juarez and get 3 full service pieces and still have money left over)
StreetFiend
01-09-03, 22:02
Maybe I can shed some light on the Massage palor scene in Tucson. I have a buddy that is a licensed massage therapist, and he said that the Tucson city council about twenty years ago made it illegal to operate a place that does massages without a massage therapist licsense. He also said that Phoenix does not have such a law. That is the reason you see them all over the place in Phoenix. So how is Touch of Heaven able to operate? For starters they are low key, and I do not think the authorities really know a whole lot about them. Second, from what I understand about them they do not present them as massage therapist, but instead as relaxation therapist.
Merlin Magician
01-10-03, 11:16
Mr. fiend: Phoenix does have such laws and they enforce them vigorously.
VERY Wrong about Phoenix's A Touch of Heaven. Brandy will not allow an unlicensed worker near any of her three shops. She complies strictly with all city codes and regulations about her shop license and worker licenses.
All the other shops in Phoenix area are subject to license checks also and it is very rare that an unlicensed worker will be found. Phoenix city license inspectors are ruthless and will shut down a place in a flash if they find unlicensed workers. There was one place which opened recently and was alleged to be running unlicensed girls out of Canada but that has abated. There were a couple of Asian places which also opened recently and are now gone because the girls were found to be rotating out of California and unlicensed (and possibly enslaved).
Scottsdale may be a little more lenient about license checks as places like Fantasy Island ( a ripoff with many unlicensed workers)seem to operate with impunity.
Desert Rat
01-10-03, 18:24
I picked up "Lisa" the other day at noon on Laguna and Mirale Mile. Laguna is one or two streets West of Oracle. She and her friend had been talking on the phone at the 7-11 on Fairview and Miracle Mile. Lisa is black, 5'4", 150 Lbs., she was dressed in a skirt and white blouse. She had a nice smile, she smelled good, and she bent over naked and let me fuck her for $50. She said her "cousin" was with her and that she dated, too. I should have tried for a threesome.
I would discourage people from the going to Angels Heaven because a $100 handjob is not worth it. I posted something on the board a long time ago when they first opened. The girls are very good looking, but it is still a handjob. There are multiple good massage parlors in the Phoenix area.
If you can't make it up there try Tia, she is polynesian, and gives a good massage and will have sex with you for about $180/hour. Her face is odd, but her body is awesome. Her website used to be tiaoftahiti dot com.
Another place is Nogales. For a border town Nogales is fairly tame. Cross into Mexico and cross the tracks. On the other side are several clubs. Cherries is open during the day and others like Lord Blacks and Placers open in the evening and go all night.
Street action is not for the faint of heart. If your funds are low try 1/2 hour with an escort. Just ask the board for a review or advice first. Be careful out there!
Originally posted by merlin magician
Scottsdale may be a little more lenient about license checks as places like Fantasy Island ( a ripoff with many unlicensed workers)seem to operate with impunity.
Fantasy Island is actually on a Maricopa County "island" surrounded by the northern part of Tempe. The county island location is why they get away with a lot.
In addition to Phoenix, I know that Scottsdale, Tempe, and Mesa all require massage licenses and do enforcement of them to at least some degree.
Picked up "Michelle" again on Romero between Ft Lowell and MM. More often than not, I see her out there when I am going home from work. Tiny little strawberry blond. Smooth skin, all right face, nice body (a little skinny but with nice firm breasts) 18 y.o.. Parked the car, she said it was her period, not a problem, she gives VERY good BBBJ (although maybe that is subjective) and I'm not much for sex in the car anyhow. She said," give me $40 and you can come in my mouth and I'll make it worth it." I am used to paying $20, but have paid her $30, so I said, "we'll see." VERY GOOD BBBJ. Worked it all over. Afterwards, I offered $30, she asked for another $5. Sure, why not. If I was in Nogie, I would've paid $20 for the closet and $20 for the CBJ.
LoveLOS, About Dana Leigh, yes she is for real and there have been a few posts about her on this board. To me, she is very pleasing.
I know of 2 other places that do massage in Tucson. One of the girls is Cindy. I think she is in her 50's and used to work at angels. She still looks good to me though. But it is still $100 for a topless HJ. She is down on broadway near Euclid. I would have to look for her card if anyone was interested.
I see another girl on the web. Roxanne at
http://hometown.aol.com/bratdee1inaz/myhomepage/business.html
a girl who works (or worked) there used to dance at MM theater on Oracle. I talked with her via the web and got the impression she would do more, but when I went down and saw her at MM theater, I found her not to be my type. I don't think she works there anymore. But I called the other girl "Roxanne" and she is still in business last I checked. I've never used them so I can't say how it would be.
Also Pure bliss in the TW says she used to work at Angels as "Spanish Angel". I think it is $100 for a nude hj ,but a little more $ can get you more. I get the impression it would be about the same cost as the other escorts in the TW charge. I haven't tried her yet but intend to.
Originally posted by da_hunter
LoveLOS, About Dana Leigh, yes she is for real and there have been a few posts about her on this board. To me, she is very pleasing.
Thank you kind sir! I appreciate your information-packed posts!
LoveLOS.
Mystic Pimp
01-12-03, 02:48
Here's a link I found to a lady that does massage. Note I see nothing in here that suggests anything beyond that. But you never know.
http://www.angelfire.com/az3/ak85712/
Mystic Pimp
01-12-03, 02:56
One thing about the lady whose link I posted, I saw some similar info in the Arizona Connection website. By reading some of the ads in there, it would seem as though some "escorts" are trying to discreetly advertise by making one believe they are just average women. It seems most of the ads I refer to are from women in the Phoenix area.
Been cruising around this weekend, haven't seen much of anything. The only "lady" I tried to stop for was on Prince near 1st Ave..."she" turned out to be a guy...couldn't tell from a distance, but the more you look, the more questionable it gets. I'm not interested in men dressing up as women, so "she" was kicked out almost as soon as "she" got into my ride..."she" said "she" could give a great BJ, but I wasn't going for that. Maybe some of you out there wouldn't mind it so much, but I personally want some punani...:) half and half is what I'd be looking for.
So as far as the massage places go, whether it's independent women or a "company", does it seem to be worth it in terms of incall or outcall FS?
Originally posted by LoveLOS
Thank you kind sir! I appreciate your information-packed posts!
LoveLOS.
Actually, maybe I should put some more about Dana, since you asked about her specifically. I don't think she was a dancer, but rather a waitress. At least in Tucson, She may have danced back in Boston. She sent me online pictures of her before we met and I don't know if I would be able to pick her out of a lineup with them. She said they were taken a while ago before she had her son. Beauty is somewhat subjective but I find her fairly attractive. She is very thin but not bony. Fairly pretty face, nice full lips and great attitude. She is very nice to talk to and seems concerned about pleasing her clients. I've probably seen her 5 or 6 times, and have never been disappointed. In fact, just talking about her makes me want to see her again. (It's been about 2 months since I saw her last) As always, YMMV.
da_hunter,
Now you are making me drool. I can hardly wait to get to Tucson...
LoveLOS
Mystic Pimp
01-15-03, 13:11
There has been GREAT weather in Tucson the last few days...I would be shocked if there wasn't any action out there recently. This weekend was pretty much a bust for me, too many cops in the areas I cruised (mostly on the north side) and either no chicas worth stopping for or they were w/ some pimps or whatever...maybe some of you out there had better luck.
Mystic Pimp
01-16-03, 03:15
A frustrating night for me in the area of Speedway and Alvernon...a few chicks out there, but no play...:(
Went out last night in the Oracle/MM area. LE all over the place. Was hoping to see Michelle on Romero but no such luck. Saw a nice looking Black woman with a guy on Lester and 11th. Pulled up and the guy says,"Hello Officer." Happens to me all the time. Saw a slender young looking latina at 11th and Jacinto. "Kiki" Not to bad in the face, but was wearing a long coat covering her body. Took her to Circle K and when she walked in, her coat flew open and she had a half shirt on with low slung jeans. Nice tight stomach, nice firm breasts. I was thinking about blowing her off before then but I got real interested after seeing that. She got back in and said she just wanted a ride. I took her to where she was going and she said,"I'll be walking back the other way in about 5 minutes." I asked her if she was working and she said that she wasn't but now she supposes she is (?) I came back around and we went and parked. She asked if she could smoke crack in my car. I have mixed feelings about that. I don't know what the legal ramifications are, I don't want to be inhaling any of that shit, and some girls get really weird after they smoke it. I said I prefer that you didn't. She said her old man just got sent to jail. She was 22 and didn't normally do this and wasn't planning on doing this until I picked her up. I asked How much for a bj. She didn't know. I said $20. It sucked. She was paranoid and maybe feeling guilty. She did take off her shirt and pulled her pants to her knees. She had a smoking body. But the BJ was actually a HJ. Afterwards I told her that it was one of the worst BJ's I've had. She apologized and said if I had a place we could go it would've been a lot better. She just didn't like being in the car. If I have my place free and see her again, I may take her up on it.
Mystic Pimp
01-16-03, 13:04
Question on cabs:
I just heard that Yellow Cab was bought by AAA Cab (I think they're both based in Phoenix), so now they are one huge company...is that good or bad? I also saw an article in today's Tucson Citizen on a Yellow Cab driver I used to know (he used to be a clerk at Miracle Mile Movies)...guess he was shot to death back in November...found near Speedway and Main. I can't believe it, and I can't believe I'm only finding out about this now. Makes me think twice about the cab thing. But not like me and this guy were friends or anything. I just saw him around. Well, life goes on.
Mystic Pimp
01-16-03, 22:09
Desertguy: how long have you been driving cabs (on and off, or continuously)? Do you work for a big company or a small one? Do you think you get in on a lot of action that you might otherwise not be in on if you weren't a cabbie? If you don't want to tell me that's cool.
I had an acquaintance that used to drive for one of the bigger cab companies for a while and LOVED it. He was about the $$$ first, the chicks second. Well, due to what he calls BS, he can't drive for this company anymore. He wants to drive for another company, or do the cab thing in another city, but his age and his driving record have held him back. It's a shame too, cuz this dude knows Tucson streets like the back of his hand.
Checked out a bit of the soutside recently, it seems all the construction in the area hasn't made finding SG's any easier.
Mystic Pimp
01-16-03, 22:43
Any activity in the "off-the-beaten-path" areas lately? Areas that most people don't go looking for SG's? Maybe on the eastside, far south, far north, or the westside...just curious. Guess I ain't got shit better to do, I've been posting a lot lately.
Mystic Pimp
01-17-03, 00:21
Question for you guys, what would you say is the "cruising" boundary for street action on major N-S and E-W streets? One example, crusing Prince between I-10 and Campbell.
There is a short,older,latina woman with jet black hair who works the lower end of Miracle Mile near Flowing Wells.Goes by the name Cynthia..Avoid this woman at all costs!!!Very abrasive personality,her CBJ lasted all of about 60 seconds after which she insisted I had to finish myself off.Total rip off from a nasty scag.After she left I realized she had stolen my camera from my car.Please don't give this thief any business,you will regret it.
Slim pickings on the street today.I saw one cute girl in front of the Sunland Hotel on MM,tall,young,dirty blonde with glasses.I was too slow in the turn around and saw her get into another car.
Mystic Pimp
01-17-03, 22:26
DesertGuy: Yeah my friend's main motivation was the $$$ too. He was making a lot for a while, always had hundreds of dollars on him. He said being younger than most of the cabbies helped him with the ladies, who seemed to call him constantly. He didn't try picking up girls on the street, they would proposition him, that lucky bastard. I guess a lot of what he got for free (and on occassion, for a free or discounted ride) most of us would have to pay for. In general there do seem to be lots of lonely women out there. Maybe if some of us picked up on that more, and responded properly (not like I know what is a proper way to respond), we wouldn't be out trolling. I feel lucky to get the kind of info from my friend that he has given me, considering that I can't and won't tell him about my "relationships" with SG's or others in the escorting/massage, etc. businesses. Gotta keep it DISCREET.
Mystic Pimp
01-17-03, 23:17
I did happen to cruise around last night, covered the southside, only stuff there was in the neighborhood covering 4th Ave, 22nd St, 6th Ave, and 18th St. Saw at least 2 chicks I could have picked up, but didn't. Both looked hispanic. Decent looking bodies, but faces weren't all that. Wonder if they'll be back out there this weekend.
Cruised down Alvernon from Ft Lowell to 29th St. Only thing of interest was just north of Grant, two hotties walking southbound, don't know if they were working girls or not, but by the time I could turn around, they were gone. Also saw some girls walking near the Quik Mart that is north of Speedway, but they went inside the store, so I kept on going. Went on Craycroft for a while, sometimes I see stuff between Golf Links and 22nd St. There were some chicks by the apts just south of 22nd, but it seems they were occupied with other people.
In the end, another dry, sexless night for yours truly.
Mystic Pimp
01-18-03, 19:32
Curious about a lady named Josephine that used to advertise in the Tucson Weekly. What happened to her? Is she no longer in business? Just curious. Anyone tried any of the ladies that advertise in the Tucson Weekly recently? I hear that Helen is NOT recommended, what about other girls?
OK guys, I have read for a long time, but I now surf at home and am confident to post. I have been in tucson for just over a year.... I have had good and bad luck here. I try a lot of different places other than Miracle Mile and Oracle, but usualy have no luck. Just on Friday I cruised for some SW's and saw a gal getting out of a cab on Flowing wells north of MM, she blew a kiss to the cabie... I thought this was my big chance, so I pulled into the wallgreens, she saw me, but just kept walkin? I saw her about 20 minutes later on Prince, I pulled in at a good spot, but no luck, there where also about 3 or 4 other cars nearly stopping traffic to get to her, but she was just teasin? I think she was tweeking? because she didn't just act like a normal girl, she acted like she was working??? Anyway, I think the last successfull pickup was with Michelle, on Miracle Mile... We went to an empty desert spot, $40 for the whole deal, not bad. The one before her I got on North stone, we looked for a good spot, but she was imeadiatly bithchy! She wanted me to just park on a residential side street? I finaly agreed, after about 1 minute, she said to hurry! and she just finished with a terrible HJ... Oh well, I came on her face ;) Well when I was going to drop her off, she wanted me to take her throug some drive through... I said no way, she got out of my car at a red light, and said there was a cop watching and that I would get busted.... there was a cop close, but luckily nothing happened!
Tucson was great a year ago, but has gone down hill bigtime. I have had about 3 or 4 others in Tucson, and again have been hit or miss, unfortunatly I don't have a good enough memory about them, or they are not around anymore.
This doesnt relate directly to Tucson, but about a year ago, I was in PHX, found a decent black SW on west VB, we pulled into a small alley, I made the stuppidest mistake ever, something I always am aware of, but I had a few to drink, and blew it... I left my wallet in my back pocket... she slamed a rubber on me, which I didn't complain because she was doing a good job... she was very agressive and pulled my pants down further... I heard a noise, it was her taking the cash out of my wallet.... I grabed her hand, and all I could get where my credit card reciepts. I got my wallet back with my cards, I was just out about $50, I told her to get out of my car and she said, your tripin'.... about that time a truck pulled up real slow... I was very SCARED... well, she got out, and all I ended up losing was a $50 spot... could have been much worse... Dont missunderstand me, I know most of the rules to this game, I have had a few SWs in my day, but just saying guys... be carefull, and try to pick your spot to do your thing, if you go to hers... you could get jacked!
Also, for those of you who go to Mexico, I went 2 times to Lord Blacks with much pleasure and succsess... both times at night, by myself, and a lil bit tipsy, but the last time I tried was on a Sunday afternoon, sober. I thought the daytimewould be safer, I was wrong, I made the mistake of not having any small bills for the vultures. One guy kept wanting me to buy his jewelry box for $.75, I kept saying sorry... well he followed me and was being cool and just talking to me, but I tried crossing the street to head to Lord Blacks, he went a different way and cut me off.... he then said, alright mother F***er, your gona give me some money, even if we have to box! I think I could hold my own against this fool, but I didn't fell like takin a blade, or gettin thrown into the Mexican jail (I am a gringo who speaks no spanish) Anyway, I just turned around to get to a more tourist part, he kept following me and talking spanish to a bunch of scary looking thugs, trying to get them to jump me, I just kept trying to get the hell out of there, he tried tripping me, and said "keep runnin" I got close to the us side and was safe.... he said, I will remember you next time, I put my arms up and told him to come across and we will settle things!!! Anyway, I never hear to many bad stories about mexico, but things do happen, I have learned a) not to go alone and b) take small bills for the vultures!
Sorry such a long post... but I will be more updated and shorter in the future!
Desert Rat
01-20-03, 16:21
Originally posted by NotoriousPoppa
Curious about a lady named Josephine that used to advertise in the Tucson Weekly. What happened to her? Is she no longer in business? Just curious. Anyone tried any of the ladies that advertise in the Tucson Weekly recently? I hear that Helen is NOT recommended, what about other girls? I called Josephine's number and it was out of service. Helen is not an escort and gives a crappy massage IMHO. Helen has an ad in the uncensored "Beautiful Lady Will Do Heavenly Massage for You 237-4703." She also has an ad on the back page of the Weekly, "Perfect Touch: Outcall Massage 237-4703." She is in her late 40's and heavy set. I also DO NOT recommend, "GREEN EYED LADY ALEXIS 218-5201." She is an escort, but she is very fucked up in head.
I see Cashmere's ad is in the weekly. I have heard good things, but never have been able to hook up myself. Ph: 617-9299.
Hey guys...
well, I have been looking and looking and looking for SW's, and have been coming up empty. On the very rare occasions that I saw one, she would be way substandard, or someone else would have picked her up by the time I circled the block. What am I supposed to do? Just slam on the brakes right in the middle of Oracle, clogging traffic and calling attention to myself?!?!? Anyway, venting about the horrendous SW situation in this town is not why I'm posting this evening...
I was trolling the Tucson Weakly (aware of spelling) and got a bite on "Sexy Redhead, In/Out Call, 1/2hr avail. Samantha 991-5286" (posted with her permission, as is this whole review). I called, and she seemed immediately available, which is what I wanted. She quoted me $100 for half an hour, $130 for an hour, or $75 for massage and hand release. She described herself as red hair, about 5'6", 135 pounds, and 36D. I took the hour. She said that she would call me back in about 3-4 minutes to confirm our appointment. I waited about 10-15 minutes then called her back. She said she thought it had only been 5 minutes. Usually no big deal, but I was out, and didn't want to stand there in the parking lot of a gas station wondering which way to drive. Anyway, our appointment was on...
I got to the Circle K on Ina and I-10, where she told me to be. I called her to find out which room she was in. I was told by someone named "Nikki" that I was two minutes early, and that I would be called back with her room number when she was ready. Well, about 8:05 I was finally called by Nikki who told me where to go to meet her.
I got to her room, and she answered the door. No D boobs, more like a B, which she later confirmed they were. My cell phone was breaking up a bit during her description, so it's entirely possible that I misheard D for B. Anyway, the rest of her was all right I guess...passable, not stunning. Too much eye shadow, and she had marginal looks. But as I said, passable.
Anyway, she asked if I'd like to start with a massage, which I said yes. She carressed me, then started touching my privates. when I was getting hard, she placed a condom on me, and proceeded to give me, hands down, the best blowjob I have ever had with a condom on. Then, she tried to do the reverse cowgirl, and I couldn't get in. So, she spent a while giving me more covered oral. Never thought I could enjoy covered oral so much, but it is possible. Anyway, after a while, she got on top of me, and we finally got it in. We did three different positions until I came.
Then we relaxed and engaged in conversation. She seems really cool. After some talking, she game me manual stimulation. WOW!!! The best hand job I have ever had or even heard of!!! She used a technique which is very unique. I might go back just for the handjob! Anyway, I wanted some more intercourse, so I mounted her and made myself come.
To sum up, marginal looks, good performance, GREAT attitude. I will definately be seeing her again, And I strongly recommend her. She's no Josephine, but few are...
Mystic Pimp
01-21-03, 22:09
Over the weekend I went to a few strip clubs, since I was hanging out w/ a friend. Damned if I didn't spend more $$$ and drink a lot more than I wanted to. It seems that going to a strip club on a slow (for the dancers) night may mean more extras for the customers. This seemed to be the case at the Boat (Raiders Reef), where most of the cocktail waitresses were doing stage and table dances. Wondering what may go on in the private rooms there on Thu (customer appreciation day)...since they won't get much $$$ on the main floor, they'll be working hard for tips in the Champagne Room...hehehe. It has been a while since I did the strip club thing, but either it's just me, or most of the girls dancing in various clubs these days are pretty damn hot, and most seem to be younger than myself...I must be getting old, or I need to get laid...it's been a few months...damnit.
So anyone got some Super Bowl Sunday plans? How many of you would have picked the Bucs and Raiders to be going at it in San Diego? I plan on visiting a strip club on that day, haven't decided which one yet. BTW for a website that reviews what's available here in town (although it hasn't been updated recently), check out http://www.tucson-topless.net/reviews.html
pantherxxx
01-22-03, 11:39
Three really hot black sw's walking down oracle and you know where yesterday around 5. One with knee high boots and a skirt. The other two were walking together wearing black leather jackets. I found it suspicious that I didn't see LE at all, when there's usually been one on top of the other in that area. Anyone stop for these? I was sure they had badges between their legs. Way too good looking to be SW. Also saw a thick Latina wearing short dress and leather jacket on the Mile. I'm not into Latinas myself. I have a feeling people are holding out, because there's been a lot more than that around lately.
Around 7am on MM corner of 14th, girl brown hair with a red cut off top, jeans and cowbot boots and big mellons. About a 7, but I had just got off work and was tired.
Thought I saw the girl described as Shae also around 5 yesterday turning the corner from Oracle to MM, but she had a bag of groceries. Looked juicy though.
Anyone else?
WorldTraveller
01-22-03, 13:39
We should be seeing an increase in activity due to the gem show coming into town, however, the downside to this is that there will be more LE present. The 3 blacks you described sound like 3 I saw in phoenix a bit over a week ago, they were being harrassed by LE on Van Buren. Maybe they decided to come to tucson for the gem show??? They were HOT when I saw them up there, definately hardbodies.
I too am getting leary of hunting on the street anymore, however, I feel it is just a matter of time before LE starts running stings on the TW ads and such, they are maybe letting that end build up a bit to build some confidance? I dunno, maybe I am getting more paranoid as time goes on.
Makes me long for another trip abroad, where it is NOT against the law to pay for sex. Maybe I should just start saving my money for another trip instead of wasting it here on sub-standard workers???? Oh well.........
Mystic Pimp
01-23-03, 00:22
3 black chicks from Phoenix coming down here? Sounds like something I saw back in 98. They walked on Oracle south of Grant...
This is to let you all know I saw a late model (98-02) Chevy Camaro Z28 police car in the foothills area (around Swan and Sunrise)...probably not for vice, more for aggressive driving stops, but better safe than sorry. This car has ZERO markings on it... one wouldn't know it was a cop car until it was too late.
Mystic Pimp
01-23-03, 12:16
A couple sightings last night:
--Craycroft between 22nd St and 29th St (around the Circle K)
--Speedway in the area of Columbus
nightrider1
01-23-03, 14:41
I will be headed for Tucson next Friday to thaw out for a week and have been reading all the posts these last few days even going back to the achives. I enjoy the sw scene based on economy but am a little concerned about all the LE presence. I was there about 6 years ago and met a sweet older homeless gal named Teresa. Tried to keep in touch but of course with no phone and no permanent address she was immposible to track down. Sounds like now it's just hit and miss, with the miss being the norm.. If anyone has someone they can recommend I would appreciate an e-mail very much. niterdr59@yahoo.com I;m an older guy in late 50's but young at heart and keep myself fit ,trim,and clean. Also any recommendation for reasonable motel would be appreciated.. Would also be willing to meet for a beer.
marlin_007
01-23-03, 18:15
There's a SURE THING rolling into town tomorrow! I've mentioned her before here but I thought I'd write again in case some of you missed it.
Jennifer Pleasures of El Paso arrives tomorrow afternoon. Check her out at http://www.jpleasures.com/
She is a black BBW but she's not all that big and she will absolutely blow your mind! She is far more of an accomplished pro than anyone else I've seen in this town. Her talents and techniques will leave you amazed. She's been reviewed numerous times on The Erotic Review and speaking from repeated experience it's all true.
Give her a try. You'll be thanking me later.
Originally posted by marlin_007
There's a SURE THING rolling into town tomorrow! I've mentioned her before here but I thought I'd write again in case some of you missed it.
Jennifer Pleasures of El Paso arrives tomorrow afternoon. Check her out at http://www.jpleasures.com/
She is a black BBW but she's not all that big and she will absolutely blow your mind! She is far more of an accomplished pro than anyone else I've seen in this town. Her talents and techniques will leave you amazed. She's been reviewed numerous times on The Erotic Review and speaking from repeated experience it's all true.
Give her a try. You'll be thanking me later.
thanks for the link, however, I say that she is a bit pricey, considering her appearance, as well as the privacy-intrusive "screening procedures" (real meaning "potential blackmail material gathering"). Samantha only asked for my first name. Just the way I like it. My privacy means just as much to me as a provider's does to them.
In short, I think I'll pass on this one. For about $150 and respect for my privacy, it would be a different story.
But, to each his own I guess. That's just one man's opinion.
Desert Rat
01-23-03, 22:09
I agree with Pugilist completely about providing escorts with too much information i.e. anything more than your first name. I have contacted some of the upscale escorts in Phoenix, but have never visited them because of their digging into my personal life. Do you really want a hooker to have your work phone number?
There was a story on ASP a couple years back from a guy who regularly visited an upscale escort. One day he missed an appointment and she charged his credit card. He got pissed off and disputed the charge with the credit card company. So...the escort called his boss and his wife. Bingo! He was fired and divorced before he could say Pussy!
As for the three black chicks on Miracle Mile. The chick I picked up name Lisa was black. Her and her "cousin" were both hot looking and walking East on Miracle Mile in broad daylight. I pulled up on a side street and both approached me. Lisa gave her "cousin" her purse(probably filled with dope) and off we went. See my post on 1-10-03. Sometimes you've got to say, What the fuck?
Originally posted by marlin_007
There's a SURE THING rolling into town tomorrow! I've mentioned her before here but I thought I'd write again in case some of you missed it.
Jennifer Pleasures of El Paso arrives tomorrow afternoon. Check her out at http://www.jpleasures.com/
She is a black BBW but she's not all that big and she will absolutely blow your mind! She is far more of an accomplished pro than anyone else I've seen in this town. Her talents and techniques will leave you amazed. She's been reviewed numerous times on The Erotic Review and speaking from repeated experience it's all true.
Give her a try. You'll be thanking me later.
i checked out her website and read some of the reviews posted here and there about her. She sounds like a hell of a good time! I understand her need to ensure that the person is not LE. However, I have to agree with a couple of the others here when it comes to my privacy. The current economy sucks and I would not want to lose my job for a few hours of great sex.
Mystic Pimp
01-24-03, 14:16
Desert Rat: You said "Street action is not for the faint of heart" in your 1/10/03 post. Were you referring to Tucson, or in general?
After reading that escort getting a guy fired line, I learned one thing: CASH ONLY!!!!!
A little off topic...there's a new cab company called Discount Cab that will be starting up by Feb 1st. Ownership is based in Phoenix (like most of the big companies here, or is it just Yellow/AAA Cab that is Phoenix-owned?)...also slightly off topic, but me and a friend checked it out, we heard a few Yellow Cab drivers talking about how shitty things were at Yellow, and how the cops here (I think they were referring to TPD) were harassing cabbies for pretty much BS recently. Just wondering if any cabbies can verify this or not. Wouldn't wanna be driving and have to explain to the law why I took certain forms of payment for a cab ride other than cash (hehehe)...
One more thing, I know we've all talked about how bad it is in Tucson when it comes to finding sex. But right now, I'd rather be here, especially hearing how bad winter has been in other areas of the country. Can't beat mid 70's temps in January...:)
Mystic Pimp
01-24-03, 14:18
Here's a question on escorts: how much info do U think is "enough" to give an escort, and how much is too much? I can accept them screening guys, I suppose they shouldn't fuck just anybody, but there's gotta be some good balance somewhere.
Originally posted by NotoriousPoppa
Here's a question on escorts: how much info do U think is "enough" to give an escort, and how much is too much? I can accept them screening guys, I suppose they shouldn't fuck just anybody, but there's gotta be some good balance somewhere.
Here's my opinion..
First, about the screening...
Some guys who have taken a stand on this issue have said "sure, I'll show them my ID only if they show me theirs". That doesn't work for me. I don't want to show them my ID for any reason. What a lot of people seem to forget is that we risk just as much as they do. We're breaking the backward laws that prohibit this hobby just as they are. We risk the same jail time and fines. She could be a cop just as we could be. And we're also risking our personal safety. I've heard of hobbiests getting rolled by a "driver" for their wallets and left with no sex just as often as I've heard of an escort involved in a physical scuffle of some sort. So this whole escort-preference with privacy never washed for me, and it never will.
I give my first name only, make all related calls from my cell phone, and always pay cash. Any escort that doesn't like that won't get my business, and that's fine. They're not the only provider in the world. If they're not willing to respect my privacy, then I'll go with someone who will.
Now, about pricing...
I say about $150 an hour is "about right". I'm willing to slide that up or down a bit based on looks. Can't really go on reviews, because as will all girls YMMV, and it's not like a provider is going to cut you a good deal on the first one to get you addicted to her great sex, so looks is the only thing we have to go on. I personally feel that $200 is kind of stretching limits a bit, and a quote $250 an hour will send me elsewhere.
Mystic Pimp
01-25-03, 14:07
Cruised around last night, it was pretty sad, pretty much nothing anywhere. I saw what looked like a nice looking skinny blond chick walking down Stone between Drachman and Speeday, but there was a cop in the PCC lot across the street, also some black guy just standing around about a block down, by the Speedway bus stop. Happened to drive down 4th Ave, and all the "cruising" traffic that used to be notorious on 6th Ave and Speedway seems to have migrated to 4th Ave.
Picked up a skinny blonde on MM near Fairview "Rain". Said she used to dance at Td's. I don't know if she had the body for dancing. Good $25 BB. She had a real pretty face. Her body could've been a little firmer. She was real sweet though. She forgot to ask for the $ upfront and when she did afterwards and I paid her, she said that she had forgotten to ask for the money upfront about 5 times and I was the first to pay her. I found that hard to believe. Lots of the girls have told me about getting ripped off though. Michelle told me that she makes sure she sees the money upfront because a lot of guys pick her up and won't have a dime. Maybe there are a lot of rip offs both ways. Rain gave me her number and said I could go to her place on the South side sometime but when I called, it was a wrong number. :-( Maybe I wrote it down wrong. I didn't ask for it, she just offered so I don't know why she would make a number up. Last time I saw Michelle she gave me a number. Called her Thur. after work. Can't go to where she is staying, so I brought her back to my place. Real nice time. She asked for $40 and I gave her $50. To be honest, to me, it looks like she is losing a lot of weight. I don't know if it's drugs or not eating right or what but she was looking kind of bony. Driving her to my place and back we had a chance to talk and she told me she was suppose to graduate from FW High School last year but dropped out. Kind of made me feel guilty thinking about how young she was. In fact a lot of times with SW I get a twinge of guilt because they are so desperate. The escorts, dancers and masseuses seem to have more of a choice of what they can do, but these girls on the street are like seriously down and out.
Was driving around on the bike Sat and went to check out who was working at Angels. There was a gorgeous tall slender blond and an older hot looking Latina. I was thinking that if I stopped, I wouldn't be able to resist and I was right. I got the Latina. The blond took me back to the room and I had a chance to ask her if she did anything away from Angel's. She said only after she got to know the person at Angels. Might be scamming, but I think I'm going to find out. This girl was exquisite. She was probably about 5' 11. I couldn't take my eyes off of her. I asked if she was available then and she wasn't but maybe next time. I never make an appointment, I just show up, so I just take what I can. The Latina was nice. She used to dance at Curves but is making a lot more $ at Angels. Pricey $80 tip on top of the $55 for the massage. Good thing I have a good job. She also said she sometimes did "Private shows" but hadn't in awhile. As I was leaving, there was another gorgeous girl coming in. Tall dark skin, hot body beautiful face. I haven't found anything to compare to the beauty of the girls at Angels. Even down in Nogales, you would have to do some searching to match it, at least at the time of day I go. I hear the women at Lord Black are awesome, but that normally isn't open yet when I go. Looking at the online ads of the girls in Phoenix on sites like phoenix-exotics, a lot of them are as attractive. Maybe some day I'll make an appointment and take a trip up there. It looks like the prices are more around $250 for an hour.
BTW, Mandy/Amanda out of the TW, who I posted about on here on 1-02, has a pic on tucson-exotics. There are 3 girls listed on "tucson" that have numbers outside of the 520 area code. There is also "Vivian" who has her own website. I've read a lot of good things about her in the Erotic Review. I called and she was $300 for an hour. For some reason she doesn't look THAT attractive to me. Someone asked how much escorts charge here in Tucson. I've seen it for $100 for a half hour to Vivian for $300. I think around $150 an hour is a good median price. Some of the girls in the TW quote $180 an hour and if they're as good looking as they say, it might be worth it. As far as ID, I've never been asked. A lot of the ads in the TW and in the phone book which asked for Credit Cards are all one company. The girl who answers the phone was a real ***** to me and I've only heard bad things about the service. I haven't tried them though but I heard it's like $100 for the girl to show up and anything else is extra $. I've also heard that some have "Drivers" who need to get paid before the show starts. Screw all that. But as I've said, I never used them. I've never been asked for ID. A lot of the escorts I've seen from the TW, won't do incall or outcall at a motel until they've seen you in your house. I suppose that's enough for them. Some may say it's not the safest for me, but I don't have anyone whose opinion I really care about that much, so I can't see getting blackmailed. And with the security I have in my house, I'm not really that worried about getting ripped off either.
You mention that scam operation that has something like 13 different names in the weekly...
I tried it once. You're correct, the so-called "driver" needs to be paid up front, but there was nothing else offered. After the money and the driver were out the door, she then said any mention of sex would make her leave with my money. I didn't even get a show. It was one of the worst experiences I've ever had with this hobby. Sometimes I consider calling them up again just to give their "driver" a little asskicking for ripping me off.
Had I known they had so many different names, I would have never tried them. In my opinion, there is abolutely no legit reason whatsoever for an operation or escort to operate under more than one name.
Hey da_hunter,Any chance you could hook me up with Michelle's number? borderguy999@yahoo.com
Mystic Pimp
01-26-03, 19:03
Maybe some of us should compile a list of those escort ripoffs that advertise in the phone book or TW.
Are Michelle and Rain the same person? I'm wondering if that's the chick I saw on Fri night.
It looks like tucson-exotics is a section of the phoenix-exotics website. Of the 5 girls I saw in the Tucson section w/ pics, I think Hannah is the best looking. I swear to god she looks like some dancer I've seen at one of the clubs.
Saw one old looking SG on 22nd St between Wilmot and Craycroft (by the Quik Mart). The way she was walking, it looked like she was high. A few girls were on the side street by there (I think it's Sahuara Ave)...I cruised down, but no one there. Stopped for gas at Quik Mart at 29th and Craycroft. A couple girls (that appeared to be street girls) were there...talked to them for a little bit, they mentioned that they sometimes walk in the neighborhood between 22nd St, 29th St, Craycroft, and Sahuara. I guess some other girls hang out along some side street behind the Circle K on 26th and Craycroft.
Originally posted by NotoriousPoppa
Maybe some of us should compile a list of those escort ripoffs that advertise in the phone book or TW.
Any ads that have that small print tag line about accepting MC and Visa is that same ripoff company. If you don't believe me you can call like three or four of these numbers, and hear the exact same voice answering the phone for each one.
hello tucson,
I'm in town on business, and have hit the streets in search of local talent. Picked up one girl Sunday night about 11pm on 14th & MM - she was with a small black guy she said is her husband. Cute face but body is overweight & flabby - gave good bbbj and cfs. Kind of disappointing - sorry, can't remember her name.
Tonite I found Alita on Flowing Wells just up from MM. She's 5'2", cute looking, hair in a pony tail and little frizzy thing in the front, wears a letter-jacket style coat. I like thin girls with muscle tone, and Alita fit the bill. She gave bbbj (deep throat), slow, lots of tongue, and then fs in all positions, including some I'd never tried. Good DATY, and finished with excellent doggy style. She definitely came (I could smell the juices). I'd give her an 8 for looks, but a 10+ for attitude - best I've ever had. Body is very slender, very small breasts, which I like. Call it a 7. Good responsive nipples. Also, she is not a druggie, and says she doesn't even drink, so you can actually have a conversation with her. No way to contact her, so I'll just have to look for her in the same area. $40 for everything! Funny thing was, she said she does this in part because she really enjoys sex... never heard that from a sw before...Definitely a top score in my book.
BTW, Romero is dead, as is the Prince/Ist/Fort Lowell/Stone area.
Any other hot spots currently?
nightrider1
01-28-03, 09:44
Nice post Egg..I will be in Tucson on Friday so I hope Alita needs some business,,She sounds perfect to me, especially the attitude part,,
so hard to find that these days it seems. Wish I had a phone number for her. If you do could you e-mail me at niterdr59@yahoo.com
Desert Rat
01-28-03, 17:10
Egg,
Thanks for the information on Aleta. I did some research and found that I posted about her on June 10th, 2002. I am surprised that she is still around. I had the same wonderful experience that you did with her. Unfortunately, I have not seen her since that day and I have no contact information on her.
I found a new provider website: http://geocities.com/alayadowns/private
I could not find any reviews for Alaya, but I have seen her ad in the Tucson Weekly. She has a long rambling philosophy page on her site about escorting. Alaya considers herself an upscale intellectual which translates to $$$ to fuck her. If anyone does see her, please post.
Thanks Notorious Papa for the tip about the Craycroft/22nd area.Miracle Mile/Oracle was totally dead today.I saw one black SW of questionable gender.Cruised over to Craycroft about 10AM and immediately saw SW walking towards the Circle K.Shortish blonde hair,average body.I pulled into the Circle K parking lot and she jumps in.Closer inspection revealed she was a little older than I originally thought,maybe mid-late thirties,still not bad looking.She instructed me to park in the parking lot of some apartment complex.I was hesitant as this seemed very conspicuous but she said not to worry as she does it all the time.For $20 she gave very enthusiastic BBBJ making loud slurping sounds while I played with her tits and ass.She took her time and I very much wanted to nut in her mouth but I was too paranoid with people milling around the parking lot.I was sure someone was going to call the cops.She was willing to continue sucking but I zipped it and drove off.I would see her again because of her friendly attitude and good service,but I need to find better parking spots.Her name is Sherry,she says she walks between the Circle K on Craycroft to the QuikMart on 22nd.
Mystic Pimp
01-28-03, 19:27
Originally posted by Borderguy
Thanks Notorious Papa for the tip about the Craycroft/22nd area.Miracle Mile/Oracle was totally dead today.I saw one black SW of questionable gender.Cruised over to Craycroft about 10AM and immediately saw SW walking towards the Circle K.Shortish blonde hair,average body.I pulled into the Circle K parking lot and she jumps in.Closer inspection revealed she was a little older than I originally thought,maybe mid-late thirties,still not bad looking.She instructed me to park in the parking lot of some apartment complex.I was hesitant as this seemed very conspicuous but she said not to worry as she does it all the time.For $20 she gave very enthusiastic BBBJ making loud slurping sounds while I played with her tits and ass.She took her time and I very much wanted to nut in her mouth but I was too paranoid with people milling around the parking lot.I was sure someone was going to call the cops.She was willing to continue sucking but I zipped it and drove off.I would see her again because of her friendly attitude and good service,but I need to find better parking spots.Her name is Sherry,she says she walks between the Circle K on Craycroft to the QuikMart on 22nd.
Well, I didn't think anyone would find anything out there that quickly, especially on a weekday afternoon. Semd me an email and maybe I can give you tips on "spots" to go. I have a hotmail account.
TucsonTammy
01-29-03, 23:58
from being out of the real of happiness or should i say sadness how the hell is everyone ,for at times i miss you all.
SlimShady2K
01-30-03, 23:29
I've been lurking for a while, but I decided to post cuz I saw stuff of interest the other night.
Cruising on the northside on Tue night (around midnight?) pulled into the Circle K on Miracle Mile (near I-10). Two females were walking around, one short, skinny blond, looked like early 20s, other taller, darker hair, little heavier, was going out of her way to be real friendly to everyone. She said she was born the year after 1969 (cuz some homeboy in there was wearing a Playerz 69 jersey -- guess that makes her 32 or 33). I bought drinks and left after they did, they had all the signs of working girls, they crossed the street and were hanging out by those apts over there on Flowing Wells. There were too many people around, so I left.
I saw this other chick over on the street that is east of Oracle and north of Grant (???)...it goes N-S. Young, good looking hispanic female waking NB, I went to turn on a side street to make a U-turn (couldn't have been more than 30 seconds) and she was gone. it sucked. There was no sign of anything else going on out there. Virtually dead.
I've checked out a few of the strip clubs recently, Curves and Raiders Reef. Great food specials in the day, but relatively ugly dancers (some of the waitresses look better than some of the dancers, is that good or bad?) The dancers seem to look better overall at night. I think once you go in the VIP areas or champagne room, YMMV as far as any naughty "extras".
Mystic Pimp
01-30-03, 23:34
Reporter for Ho Magazine? *LOL* I wish. If I could do anything, it would be gather up some girls and start and adult website (or series of videos)....enough dreaming for now. It was dead the last couple nights I went out. I hope things get better in the next few weeks, with the weather, the Gem Show, and spring training upcoming, hope the snowbirds/visitors will bring out more activity.
This is my first post. I've been a long time lurker. I believe the Forum has gone through two revisions since I started reading. I usually make the drive to Nogales (I could help you there with questions on the Nogi board) but I was kinda restless tonight and felt like driving around.
On MM at 11pm saw two SW (couple blocks apart) but they had some company so I passed. I only like to deal with the girl. After that it was completely dead.
After much driving and making a couple of passes of all the main drags I came across "Kiki" at Stone and Drachman? at the Texaco around 1am. From da_hunter's description this is the same girl from a few weeks ago. I originally spied her across the street near the Flamingo talking to a black man but I was able to back track and grab her after she left him. Pimp or dealer or both I know not.
I would describe her as brunette, latino, 22 seemed like the right age? didn't ask, nice breasts (not large/not flat) great ass, smelled clean and less my eyes deceive me had flawless skin, pretty tight body (not athletic). Pretty much my type. Little jittery though.
After she got in for a ride I took her to a hotel. I prefer the room over parking lots. It's no safer than anywhere else mind you but until I grow eyes on the back of my head I feel better in a room as opposed to my cage.
I start the negotiations, she still claims she doesn't do this often so we don't set a price until we pull into the hotel. $40/FS. I won't tell you what I paid for the room.
Before the hotel we stopped at a Circle K to pick up some essentials, as I'm pulling out LE(DPS) pulls in behind me. I soon feel the full effect of the "Pucker Factor". Thankfully he is just in for gas and I'm out of there. (Note to future self: Have what you need before you pick her up, dumbass). It was a spur of the moment deal.
We get to the hotel and she pulls the can you take me somewhere to pick something up routine. I convince her that we won't be doing that. She loses a few points on personality for that. I forgot to mention she was high or wanted to get high. But that's relatively par for the course in this town.
Not the best in the sack that I've had (Nogales has her beat) but I was definitely into her body. Kinda rushed but I took my time anyway. Finished up and took my leave. She did offer her number so I'll probably dial her up and try one more time, see if she is a bit more relaxed next time. May have gained a little trust so we'll see, although trust isn't the exact word I would want to use.
Well that's it, I figured since I have gleamed so much info off here I should start contributing.
WWSD
I still think the candy store is better than curves, and the boat especially in recent times. I might not be as busy at times but I think some of the girls seem to dance closer and are abit more friendlier.
re: Alita
Desert Rat - she mentioned that she had been written up on WSG when I asked if she minded if I gave ehr a write up (I told her what I would say, of course).
Nightrider1 - Sorry, I asked for contact info and she said she's living with friends and doesn't have a phone.
I'll be back in town tonight after 4 days in Phoenix - WOW!
Sorry, hit the submit button by accident - I was just going to say, the scene in Phoenix is great - read my long post on that board if you're interested.
Originally posted by rupert1
I still think the candy store is better than curves, and the boat especially in recent times. I might not be as busy at times but I think some of the girls seem to dance closer and are abit more friendlier.
I normally go to Curves, TD's West, Raiders Reef, and recently, the Candy Store. Out of the 4, I think Curves has the most attractive women. Raiders probably comes in last in this category. It seems like whoever does the hiring at the boat likes bone thin women and at TD's west he likes women with HUGE asses. Candy Store has a mix, most are on the TD's/Boat level, but there are a few that are really good looking. Of course, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. As far as floor dances, I would say that in all 4 places it really depends on the girl. The VIP Area in Candy's is a lot more private though, so you don't have a bouncer looking at you all the time. The free pizza buffet at the Candy Store is a big draw for me also.
Mystic Pimp
02-01-03, 16:04
Buffet? Candy Store? When? I'm a sucker for free (or cheap) food in a strip club, so let me know and I'll be going there more. Curves and the Boat have $1 burger and fries specials on weekday afternoons, I don't think anyone else is cheaper than that.
SlimShady2K
02-01-03, 16:41
I'll have to visit the Candy Store sometime and check it out.
Originally posted by rupert1
I still think the candy store is better than curves, and the boat especially in recent times. I might not be as busy at times but I think some of the girls seem to dance closer and are abit more friendlier.
Originally posted by kj2003
"Kiki" at Stone and Drachman? ...
I would describe her as brunette, latino, 22 seemed like the right age? didn't ask, nice breasts (not large/not flat) great ass, smelled clean and less my eyes deceive me had flawless skin, pretty tight body (not athletic). Pretty much my type. Little jittery though.
...$40/FS.
...She did offer her number so I'll probably dial her up and try one more time, see if she is a bit more relaxed next time.
KJ2003,
Great report! Kiki sounds like a good time for the $$. Any chance of sharing that #? Less risky than an encounter with LE. If you dont want to post it Backchannel me at dirtbag667 at hotmail dot com.
Thx
LoveLOS
Did anybody go to the customer appreciation at the raiders reef about 2 weeks ago. It was free buffet and free dances. I didn't this time. I went once last year. Its not bad u still give the girls a tip. Curves have them too. I think they do them like every 4-5 months.
WWSD & Egg,
Thanks for your Backchannel input, check your mail. I'll be in Tucson late Feb 4th thru the 9th and try to check my mail and this board.
To ALL - Are there any internet cafes in central or west end that are reasonable for a traveller to get online? If you have hours that would also be appreciated.
Thinking of going to NOGI on the weekend for a full day of mongering. I figure we are safer in numbers and I am new to that scene, armed primarily with knowledge from this/Nogi forum. Is there anybody in the mood for company? (if so post here / Nogales or backchannel - see post below for addy)
LoveLOS
Hey guys, I would like some "backchannel input" as well. I'm tired of wasting half a tank of gas only to see empty streets. I would greatly appreciate any help anyone can give me. In return, I will offer in detail how each of my encounters go...
SlimShady2K
02-03-03, 19:45
LoveLOS: Don't know about too many internet cafes, I think there's one somewhere on Congress St...do a search on Yahoo and you might find more. As far as areas to access the internet, there are a few Tucson-Pima public libraries, the PCC campuses, and the U of A. Hours and info can be found on the web.
Rupert1: I went to that thing, it was pretty busy...nice atmosphere, like the free buffet.
As far as the dancers at the various clubs, I think overall the girls that work at night tend to look better than the day girls (with some exceptions here and there). Don't know about the waitresses, but many seem to overall look better than the dancers (or maybe it's just me)...
Mystic Pimp
02-04-03, 13:56
For visitors here for the Gem Show, check out areas near downtown (not too near, at least a mile or so away) and see if there's anything happening due to there being more tourists around.
What's the story on SW? Since the Gem Show started I haven't been able to find a single SW! MM, Romero, Flwoing Wells, the Prince/1st/FtLowell/Stone block, Fairview, all zippo. Anyone ahve a new site?
Thanks,
egg
PS - Saturday night in Nogi was super - La Conga was great - Paula comes highly recommended.
SlimShady2K
02-05-03, 17:08
Originally posted by egg
What's the story on SW? Since the Gem Show started I haven't been able to find a single SW! MM, Romero, Flwoing Wells, the Prince/1st/FtLowell/Stone block, Fairview, all zippo. Anyone ahve a new site?
Thanks,
egg
PS - Saturday night in Nogi was super - La Conga was great - Paula comes highly recommended.
Maybe you should check out the southside, or head east (exact locations/areas are usually listed here in this forum).
Thanks for the input guys, I'm now here in Tucson and at Kinkos ($$$$) but will look up that place near Hotel Congress.
I pulled in Tue nite about 11:30pm and checked out MM. My first pass saw a walker. Black and a bit heavy for my tastes. Got the "look" but deciede to move on. Last one I saw and headed as planned to Nogi. See my report there, mucho enjoyo.
Tonight I cruised MM and Oracle without a glimpse at 9pm. Decided to chill at TDs west. Had a very nice dance with a black girl that goes by Mocha. She whispered the mileage is better in VIP, so I said what the ****. Mileage was better. She placed my hands on the 34Cs, and then those items in my mouth. She was a grinder, and I think her objective was to get off herself, she may have succeeded. Highly recommended. Looks 7, Service 7 (no sexo), Attitude 10
Since I had the VIP, I got a smashing Blond bombshell whose name I forget, but whose body I won't. TD's is pricey on the VIP, but it is a good time for this side. Looks 9, Service 6 (no sexo), Attitude 9.
Worst problem is you leave low on funds and high on testosterone. I cruised the whole area mentioned by egg below. I saw one very obvious walker, but as horny as I was, I could not bring myself to stop. latino, fat, with black puffy hairdo with a bleached streak across the top. Butt ugly. Proceeded over to 22nd & Cray - Zip
Whose with me to NOGI?
LoveLOS
Wed night the SW action picked up ... spotted a lookier at the Circle K at Oracle & Grant at 6 pm, but had someone with me and couldn't stop. Damn!
Later at 10 pm picked up Lorraine on MM for a well done bbbjtc for $20. She's black, 35 y.o., overweight, but gives good value for the money - no rushing.
After we finished I saw 2 butt uglies at the circle K on MM & Flowing Wells (one was the heavy latino mentioned by LoveLOS). Also saw 2 others that were 7's on Flowing Wells very near the MM lights, and saw them get in cars.
Maybe things are looking up!
Stay safe out there - the word I got is that cops are arresting hookers and sending them to jail. I don't want to find out what they do to us Johns.
egg
SlimShady2K
02-07-03, 00:01
One of the Gem Show effects seems to be that since a lot of the motels/hotels have little or no vacancy (ie full of tourists) the SW's that would normally hang around have been forced into hiding or something else. Who knows.
Egg and LoveLOS: Glad to hear you guys are taking advantage of what AZ and Mexico have to offer...
Here's a story with a twist...
After a search aroudn the usual spots I finally found Taz (aka Lisa) last night on the west end of MM at 8:45 - 37, still a good figure, shortish dirty blond hair, was wearing a maxi skirt with slit to thigh. Good conversation, pleasant girl to talk to. We went to her quiet spot for a bj (apparently she has a different one for fs). This spot was great - totally dead, but it had a light that shone in just right so I could observe the proceedings. She gave me one of the best bbbj's I've ever had - lots of deep throat, some kind of swirling tongue action that was really pleasant, and she took her time - and I mean 30 minutes of action without a pause or a complaint (how many times have you heard "aren't you almost done?" and hated it?). I just lay back and savored every moment, right up to completion - pleasant surprise: when I was about to come I asked her to take it deep and she deep throated me to the bottom, so I shot into her tonsils. When she came up she smiled, reached for a tissue (too bad I thought) then swallowed it all and genteely blew her nose on the tissue! If you are into head, Taz is Tucson's best IMHO. BTW, she didn't ask for $ up front - she did all that without a security deposit. I gave her a $20, and she seemed pleased, then I handed her another $5 and thanked her for being so patient and letting me take so long, and she positively beamed. If you are lucky enough to find her, treat her right and you will be well rewarded.
So as we're riding back toward MM I ask her what her usual beat is (west MM @ Flowing Wells) and her hours (early evening). She mentioned something about where she lives and I do a double take - same area as Aleta who I reported on earlier (super hot date - see my post on 1/28/03). I ask, "Do you know Aleta?", and Taz says, "Sure, she's my daughter." Now my head spins around, and she adds, "Actually, she's my adopted daughter." (Note: I can't find it, but I remember reading something about a mother/daughter combo here in Tucson in an earlier post - could this be the same ones?)
Anyway, to make a long story short, I take her to the circle K on MM to buy cigarettes, then give her a ride home. I ask if she can get a message to Aleta? She says, "Sure, but why not call her - here's my number, and she lives with me." So, when I get back to the motel I call, the number works, and now I have a date with Aleta for tonite! I'll let you know how it works out...
I'll ask Aleta tonite how she feels about sharing the phone number ... if she says yes I'll backchannel it to guys with a posting history over 20 (sorry newbies) - but not until after I leave town (you can guess why!).
egg
Anyone seen/heard from Shea recently? I've called her twice and both times a guy answered (the second time he didn't seem to happy that I called). Each time I've spoken to Shea she's very hesitant to talk about getting together and tells me to call back later. When I do no one answer's the phone. Taz/Lisa sounds like fun, but I guess I have to build up my posting count <lol> first. I've also tried looking for Sherry in the Craycroft area. So far I've tried both the Quikmart and the CircleK and struck out.
I'll ask Aleta tonite how she feels about sharing the phone number ... if she says yes I'll backchannel it to guys with a posting history over 20 (sorry newbies)
Egg, I would love that #.Please backchannel the info to me at borderguy999@yahoo.com
Much appreciated
Still hoping to get Michelle's # too!
Originally posted by lvlatinas
Anyone seen/heard from Shea recently? I've called her twice and both times a guy answered (the second time he didn't seem to happy that I called). Each time I've spoken to Shea she's very hesitant to talk about getting together and tells me to call back later. When I do no one answer's the phone. Taz/Lisa sounds like fun, but I guess I have to build up my posting count <lol> first. I've also tried looking for Sherry in the Craycroft area. So far I've tried both the Quikmart and the CircleK and struck out.
yeah, my post count would be much higher, but I haven't had much to post about. There's only so many times I can post about wasting half a tank of gas to see empty streets...
anyway, I tried that number you sent me. She asked if I wanted big kiki or little kiki. I took a shot and said little. then i was told they didn't live there anymore. then I asked for sandra, and she said that was her. I told her what I was looking for...she said she didn't want to discuss that now, and would only discuss it face to face, then before I got to suggest meeting her...she hangs up.
I think this girl has some mental instability. Yeah, I know mental problems aren't uncommon in this hobby, but even by provider standards she seemed crazy. I think I'm better off without that. I would say I could find better, but lately that ain't true :(
Mystic Pimp
02-08-03, 22:00
Originally posted by egg
Here's a story with a twist...
After a search aroudn the usual spots I finally found Taz (aka Lisa) last night on the west end of MM at 8:45 - 37, still a good figure, shortish dirty blond hair, was wearing a maxi skirt with slit to thigh. Good conversation, pleasant girl to talk to. We went to her quiet spot for a bj (apparently she has a different one for fs). This spot was great - totally dead, but it had a light that shone in just right so I could observe the proceedings. She gave me one of the best bbbj's I've ever had - lots of deep throat, some kind of swirling tongue action that was really pleasant, and she took her time - and I mean 30 minutes of action without a pause or a complaint (how many times have you heard "aren't you almost done?" and hated it?). I just lay back and savored every moment, right up to completion - pleasant surprise: when I was about to come I asked her to take it deep and she deep throated me to the bottom, so I shot into her tonsils. When she came up she smiled, reached for a tissue (too bad I thought) then swallowed it all and genteely blew her nose on the tissue! If you are into head, Taz is Tucson's best IMHO. BTW, she didn't ask for $ up front - she did all that without a security deposit. I gave her a $20, and she seemed pleased, then I handed her another $5 and thanked her for being so patient and letting me take so long, and she positively beamed. If you are lucky enough to find her, treat her right and you will be well rewarded.
So as we're riding back toward MM I ask her what her usual beat is (west MM @ Flowing Wells) and her hours (early evening). She mentioned something about where she lives and I do a double take - same area as Aleta who I reported on earlier (super hot date - see my post on 1/28/03). I ask, "Do you know Aleta?", and Taz says, "Sure, she's my daughter." Now my head spins around, and she adds, "Actually, she's my adopted daughter." (Note: I can't find it, but I remember reading something about a mother/daughter combo here in Tucson in an earlier post - could this be the same ones?)
Anyway, to make a long story short, I take her to the circle K on MM to buy cigarettes, then give her a ride home. I ask if she can get a message to Aleta? She says, "Sure, but why not call her - here's my number, and she lives with me." So, when I get back to the motel I call, the number works, and now I have a date with Aleta for tonite! I'll let you know how it works out...
I'll ask Aleta tonite how she feels about sharing the phone number ... if she says yes I'll backchannel it to guys with a posting history over 20 (sorry newbies) - but not until after I leave town (you can guess why!).
egg
Egg, I think the other mother/daughter team in Tucson used to live over in the Colonades Apts (on Oracle between Grant and Glenn)...different people altogether. See past posts for details.
NotoriousPoppa at hotmail dot com
Mystic Pimp
02-08-03, 22:06
Originally posted by Pugilist
great read egg, but c'mon...not 20. make the minimum whatever my post count is. please??? :D
if you can find it in your heart, my addy is NOSPAMxflbret@hotmail.com. remove the no spam thingy of course. Normally I wouldn't be so insistant, but it has been so dead...
Anyway, new business...
In the last year or so, has anyone seen any action near the Pima Downtown campus? I ask because I saw a girl that could go either way walking on Stone, and I don't think she was a student at pima. She was either a trashy student, or really hot by streetwalker standards and I'm wondering which one...
also, has anyone had any hits on Benson Highway lately?
thanks.
Stone had action on and off, more before the Pima downtown campus expanded. Used to see chicks from 6th St to as far north as Roger Rd. Usually if Stone had a lot of girls there, then Oracle didn't, and vice versa.
Haven't seen anything on Benson Highway lately, but there were a few hot spots for most of its length. Area around Park Ave, near Campbell/Kino, and from Country Club to Columbus (by the Quik Mart, east of Alvernon).
Stopped of at tens this afternoon. Tried one of them so-called sandwich (2 girls) action on the couch. The girls were really getting off, sucking each others face, had a little play myself while they were doing thee thing. I guess it was money well spend to see that. It was the first time I had two dancers at a club here.
From my last report I didn't go straight home...
I cruised around the MM, Flowing Wells for about an hour. Saw some skanks and gave up and stopped for a burrito at the Mexican Dive at Prince and flowing Wells. I saw a walker coming, so I pulled to the curb.
Cindy asked for the ride but was very cagey. Took 10 minutes to convince her I was not LE. She wasn't available for FS or parking. Only mobile BJ. $20, but it wasn't bad. She claims she is married which is why she is so worried about being busted.
Works periodically but no phone #.
LoveLOS
Thursday night I was saddened by the behavior of another punter. I spotted a girl walking on Flowing Wells. Pulled into a trailer park and waited. She came to the car and was visibly fearful, but asked for a ride. I told her to get in but found out she was not a working girl, just a junkie trying to get a ride to get home to her four kids.
Anyway, another guy had picked her up and taken her the opposite direction she wanted to go, and put her out of the car when he found she was not working. Guys, treat a woman with respect, ho or not.
She broke down crying with gratitude when I actually took her home and didn't ask for sex. Hell she even tried to pay me!
Damn I hope (And seriously doubt) it was not anybody regularly posting on this board that mistreated a regular girl. All I can say is that is bullshit.
'nuff said.
LoveLOS
See my trip report to NOGI for Friday night. I came back to Tucson and was about to fall asleep at the wheel so I napped at a Cirlce K @grant & oracle. Had to piss so I took a ride around the block, W on Grant, N at first right and again at stop sign. I pulled back to Oracle and saw a sweet looking young girl walking with a black guy.
Got the "look" as I drove by so I took a spin around the block, and sure enogh she was walking alone to the car when I got there. Now, keep in mind I had just had two pops in Nogi, but this girl was damn pretty. Slim, about 19-20 with long wavy black hair.
Kiki got in and she was moderately nervous. May be the same Kiki that Pugilist wrote about severals posts back? She TOLD me she was not a pro, but rather a drug dealer, but needed the money. Whatever. She accepted the $40 offer for FS and we found a nice quiet lot. Nice tight kitty and small natural 32Bs. She was a bit in a hurry, but she took the time to get me off. I couldnt pop in her cat so she did an energetic BJ to bring me home.
On the way back she wanted me to take the guy she was with back to her apartment. Nothin doin and she was cool with it. She gave me her number and I will backchannel it. I think Egg's 20 post standard is reasonable,I think it has increased the traffic on this board! <grin>
In my travels of Tucson streets I have seen about 10 SW's below my standards, picked up two and missed no less than three good ones to faster punters. They are there. I have had best luck LATE at night - 4am range.
LE is fairly active so always be aware of your surroundings.
Hope this helps.
LoveLOS
LoveLos,I bet the girl you know as Kiki is the girl I know as Crystal. Short, long curlly black hair, usually seen hanging around with a short black guy.Often seen on the streets either side of Oracle. Her story always changes. I got a rushed BBBj from her a month or rwo ago.She is usually jittery due to her drug use.But I still wouldn't mind her number.These streets can be pretty empty pretty often. borderguy999@yahoo.com
Mystic Pimp
02-09-03, 20:34
This was originally posted in alt.sex.strip-clubs on 12/2/02:
Subject: [ASSC] ATFSD How to Build a Strip Club
I. Location
A small strip club is a retail business. In retailing, the three
most important considerations are location, location and location.
Look for a building in the Adult Entertainment zone at the edge of a
small town, with good parking. It should be close to an exit from
an Interstate or major highway, but the path from the exit to the
club should run through the neighboring town, not the one in which
you are located. That way the town with jurisdiction over you does
not have traffic impact. There should be at least one college with
a good women's athletic program no closer than 40 minutes nor
further than 80 minutes drive time from the club. Closer than 40
minutes and the dancers will be concerned about their fellow
students seeing them in the club. A commute longer than 80 minutes
becomes a hassle.
The only way to find a suitable town is to check out each town
personally. Read the zoning regulations, particularly the parts
about adult entertainment. Visit the parts of town where adult
entertainment is permitted. If you find a likely location, attend
the public meetings of the town's governing body to learn who the
important people are. They are not necessarily limited to elected
officials: notice who else attends and who is spoken of with
respect. Talk to those people about your plans for adult
entertainment. Based on their reaction, form a judgment about
whether or not you will be swimming against the tide in your
business venture.
You want the town to be small so the tax revenue from your business
makes you significant. The town politicians can be powerful friends
when (not if) the local moralists attack you. When the club starts
to develop serious revenue, allocate some to contribute to
reelecting incumbent politicians in your town, and some to
contribute to the women's athletic programs in nearby colleges.
Before buying or leasing property in a town, hire a local lawyer.
If he thinks you have a good chance at success, he will front for
you when dealing with the locals, until you become well known. If
the people that matter in a town are hostile, move on to the next
town.
You also want the club to be close to customers. Commission a
survey of people living within 30 minutes drive from your proposed
location to determine their reaction to adult entertainment. You
are looking for both positives and negatives, just like a
politician. Would they work there? Would they be customers? Would
they pressure the town to shut it down?
Find out if there is a local anti-sex pressure group, such as a
church or the PTA. Allocate some money for their pet projects in
your business plan.
II Attracting Investors
Do not put up any of your own money. You do not have enough to
matter. You are offering your time, energy, experience and
management skills. The investors offer the money. To attract
investors you will need a business plan. To have a business plan
you will need a location, permission from the local politicians to
have a club at that location, and a commitment from local builders
for the modifications to the building. That means you will need
building plans: figure on hiring an architect in addition to the
lawyer.
The initial investment should cover your startup costs plus one year
of operation. By the end of the first year, your weekly revenue
from operations should exceed your weekly operational expenses. To
attract investment your business plan should be conservative, and
should promise to start returning five to ten percent per year to
the investors, beginning at the end of the first year. Do not
forget to include your salary in the business plan. Plan to be
on-site whenever the club is open for the first year.
III. Staffing
The quality and quantity of staff is crucial to your success. You
must have regular hours so that customers can count on you being
open without having to call ahead, and that means that you will
sometimes be open when there are very few customers. You must have
a staffing plan that allows you to make a profit even when there are
very few customers in the club. I once saw a club with a minimum
staff of two, one male and one female. The male greeted me at the
door and took my cover. He then seated me at a table and brought me
a drink, which he made at the bar. Thus, he combined the functions
of host, bartender and waiter. The female danced on stage to music
from the jukebox until a customer asked her for a private dance.
She then closed the stage and took the customer in the back. When
the customer was finished she opened the stage and returned to
dancing. You will need to have a similar staffing plan for lean
hours.
I recommend you run a regular amateur contest, open to any female
over the age of 18. If a girl has guts enough to get up on stage
and take her clothing off in front of a bunch of strangers, hire
her. For your opening, of course, this does not work. Audition
your opening day dancers personally on the stage before the club
opens to the public.
Find out if there is a local brothel. The girls are good recruits
since they can tell their regulars to meet them at your club for
some personal time, and they can tell guys who hit on them at the
club to meet them at the brothel.
Run an advertisement for dancers in the local papers within an
80-minute commute. Tell prospective dancers who call that the
amateur contest is the audition. Make sure the advertisement
includes your club's hours and location, since it will attract
customers as well as prospective dancers.
For non-dancing positions, try to hire locals. This helps to
maintain a good relationship with the community. Some clubs have a
housemother who keeps order in the dressing room. In one club that
I visited, she was the DJ's wife. In another, the (female) manager
was also the housemother. Some clubs have a DJ, while others have a
jukebox from which the dancer chooses her songs. You might try
both: a DJ for the crowded hours and a jukebox for the lean hours.
It is customary in this business to treat dancers as independent
contractors. That means you do not control them: they can work in
other clubs as well as in yours. When they come in, you charge them
a stage fee, and you can rent them locker space. You can charge
them a fee for use of the lap dance facilities. You cannot exercise
the kind of control over them that would be normal in an employee
relationship, or the IRS will decide that they are actually
employees. You can tell them that they may not work at your club if
they break the rules, but make sure the rules are objective and
clearly posted.
Scheduling presents a tricky problem. In order to maintain
independent contractor status you cannot set a dancer's hours.
However, you can limit a dancer's access to your club to those times
when her services are needed. In addition, you can tell a dancer
that you will need her on Friday evening if she also works on
Wednesday afternoon, thus exchanging a good time for coverage of a
lean time.
You should install surveillance cameras so you have evidence to show
a dancer if you see her breaking a rule. However, once the
punishment for rule breaking is fulfilled, erase the tape. You do
not want these tapes to be used against you in court.
Traditionally, the dancers pay the DJ. The housemother and bouncers
also get part of her tips. This makes economic sense, since the
dancers are the source of the revenue, but I am not sure it is a
good idea. You want the staff loyal to you, not to the dancers. If
a customer, who may be working for the police, asks for a girl to
take home, you do not want the bouncer to pimp his favorite dancer.
Instead, he should refer the customer to your competition. I think
it would be better to let a dancer keep all of her tips. You pay
the staff from the stage fees, locker rental and private dance
fees. This means that the fees will be higher than in places with a
15% tipout, but there is an appeal in being able to keep all of your
tips.
IV. Contact, Dress, Prices
The degree of contact you should permit between dancer and customer
depends on local custom, which varies widely, as does the amount of
clothing required and the prices for various services. Before you
open, survey the situation in other, nearby clubs, and aim for about
the middle. If you allow too much contact, the dancers will leave
you for the other clubs. If you allow too little, or your prices
are too high, the customers will patronize the other clubs.
If there are no other clubs near enough to be competition, you are
in the enviable position of establishing the norm. I suggest you
start very low, and slowly increase the sexiness allowed until you
start getting pressure from the community. Begin with dancers in
swimsuits, then replace the bras with opaque pasties, then
transparent pasties, then topless. Once you have gone topless start
increasing contact, from none to a caress to breasts in the face to
lap dancing to mutual caressing to genital contact to intercourse.
At some point in that progression, you also permit full nudity.
Prices are based on what the traffic will bear. One dollar per song
for sitting at the stage is widespread in the United States.
Personal dances should probably start at $10 or $20 per song, with
more for extras. I was offered a dildo show at Mitchell Brothers'
O'Farrell Theater in San Francisco for $200.
In many jurisdictions, the allowable amount of contact and clothing
depends on whether or not you serve alcohol. In addition, serving
alcohol requires additional licensing and staff training. You
should carefully consider the pros and cons of serving alcohol when
writing your business plan.
V. Maintain Good Community Relations
Even if the local politicians are on board when you open, they will
not be in office forever. You must make your business good for the
town, in a way that any new politician can learn to appreciate.
Contribute to all the local charities. A few years ago, I was
visiting a legal brothel in northern Nevada. While I was there, a
kid came in looking for support for his little league baseball team,
or something like that. He was told to come back when the owner
would be in. You want the same attitude towards you: always willing
to help. Do not insist on recognition. Some organizations may
worry that a public contribution from you will offend the local
churches, which give them more than you do. Even without public
recognition the organization will know who you are, and is likely to
support you (or at least not join the opposition) when the national
anti-sex forces come to town.
Whenever anything bad happens, take up a collection to relieve the
suffering of the victims. The public does not have to know you are
behind the effort, but the powerful people in town will know.
Make it a priority to give low-skill jobs to locals who are down on
their luck: bouncer, DJ, waitress, dishwasher, whatever. That gets
them off public support, and the politicians will notice without you
having to say anything. If you can teach the town drunk to show up
for work and look presentable, even the churches will start to
notice you with approval, though they may not have the courage to
say so.
In short, be a good citizen and the town will support you when the
national anti-sex forces arrive. If you can get local law
enforcement to speak positively about you, on the record, you are
succeeding in community relations.
VI. Litigation
No doubt, you will be involved in litigation. Remember that local
lawyer you hired when you were scouting locations? Keep him on
retainer. He should also keep track of any proposed ordinance that
would put you out of business, so you can counter it before it
passes. In general, you cannot be deprived of your property by the
government without just compensation. However, you need to guard
against creative ways around this principle. I heard of a case
where a strip club mysteriously burned to the ground one Sunday,
when it was not open. The fire chief investigated for a long time
but could not determine the cause of the fire. Be sure you have
business interruption insurance.
VII. Physical Plant
Upon entering your club, the customer should encounter an
entranceway with no visibility into the main space. There should be
an employee there to collect the cover charge and check ID. Provide
a separate entrance, not visible from the main entrance, for dancers
and employees, and let them park near the employee entrance. In
some places, dancers are escorted to their cars when they leave.
Make the interior décor erotic without being offensive to the female
staff. Install a good sound system, so that every customer hears
the music at the same volume. Make the sound loud enough to provide
conversational privacy between tables, but not so loud that a
customer cannot look a dancer in the face while talking to her.
Light the stage well so customers can see the dancers easily.
Provide a semi-private space for personal dancing. It should be
visible to the security staff but not to customers who have not paid
for a personal dance. You might use booths that conceal below the
shoulders or a special room with soft chairs. At PT's in Denver,
the personal dancing area has couches that face away from each other
with backs that arch overhead, giving a high degree of privacy.
VIII. Be Flexible
As your club becomes established, you will learn things that you did
not know when you started. You should be prepared to update your
business plan as the situation and your understanding of it
changes. If you become convinced that you cannot return a
reasonable rate to your investors, no matter what you do, it is time
to close your doors.
Anyone who wants to own a strip club should subscribe to the
industry's trade magazine, Exotic Dancer Bulletin. Their web site
is http://www.ExoticDancer.com. Follow the Directory link and then
Order. The order form lets you buy any of their products, including
a subscription to Exotic Dancer Bulletin.
John Sauter (J_Sauter@Empire.Net)
SlimShady2K
02-09-03, 21:09
Originally posted by LoveLOS
From my last report I didn't go straight home...
I cruised around the MM, Flowing Wells for about an hour. Saw some skanks and gave up and stopped for a burrito at the Mexican Dive at Prince and flowing Wells. I saw a walker coming, so I pulled to the curb.
Cindy asked for the ride but was very cagey. Took 10 minutes to convince her I was not LE. She wasn't available for FS or parking. Only mobile BJ. $20, but it wasn't bad. She claims she is married which is why she is so worried about being busted.
Works periodically but no phone #.
LoveLOS
"The Mexican Dive"...are you referring to Los Betos? Maybe you should have asked "Cindy" to see the ring on her finger or something. What does she look like?
SlimShady2K
02-09-03, 21:17
Originally posted by LoveLOS
Thursday night I was saddened by the behavior of another punter. I spotted a girl walking on Flowing Wells. Pulled into a trailer park and waited. She came to the car and was visibly fearful, but asked for a ride. I told her to get in but found out she was not a working girl, just a junkie trying to get a ride to get home to her four kids.
Anyway, another guy had picked her up and taken her the opposite direction she wanted to go, and put her out of the car when he found she was not working. Guys, treat a woman with respect, ho or not.
She broke down crying with gratitude when I actually took her home and didn't ask for sex. Hell she even tried to pay me!
Damn I hope (And seriously doubt) it was not anybody regularly posting on this board that mistreated a regular girl. All I can say is that is bullshit.
'nuff said.
LoveLOS
I agree with you, that's some BS...
SlimShady2K
02-09-03, 21:23
Originally posted by da_hunter
I normally go to Curves, TD's West, Raiders Reef, and recently, the Candy Store. Out of the 4, I think Curves has the most attractive women. Raiders probably comes in last in this category. It seems like whoever does the hiring at the boat likes bone thin women and at TD's west he likes women with HUGE asses. Candy Store has a mix, most are on the TD's/Boat level, but there are a few that are really good looking. Of course, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. As far as floor dances, I would say that in all 4 places it really depends on the girl. The VIP Area in Candy's is a lot more private though, so you don't have a bouncer looking at you all the time. The free pizza buffet at the Candy Store is a big draw for me also.
I hear TD's West hires a lot of hispanic girls...doesn't bother me any, since I prefer to have fun with whites and hispanics anyway. BTW when do they have this free pizza buffet? Do they serve food everyday, or just Mon-Fri?
Desert Rat
02-10-03, 00:44
Egg: Poppa's right about the Mother/Daughter team that used to work out of an apartment off Oracle and Glenn. Aleta and her "Mom" are two very different women. I will have set-up a secure addy because I would very much like to see Aleta again. I can vouch for Pugilist. He used to post under another name on ASP. His review of Josephine got me hooked up with her a long time ago.
LoveLOS: I agree about punters or johns being assholes to the ladies. I have had many unhappy women get in my car who have warmed up to my polite and calm demeanor. If she only wants a ride, be a gentleman and give her a ride. At the end of the ride you might be invited in for some fun.
Poppa: You and Slim Shady enjoy those titty bars but I cannot get into it. I dated a dancer for a short time and now equate dancers to con women. They take your money in exchange for very little or nothing in terms of human contact. I think the dancers in Nogales are the real deal. If you like how they look take them upstairs and fuck their brains out.
thanks for the vouching Desert Rat. Appreciate it.
anyway, this won't be overly helpful to you guys, but I'll share it with you anyway...
Last Saturday night, of course I saw empty streets again, I'm starting to think that my car has some sort of long-range SW repellent. Anyway, I saw a girl walking away from the Circle K on Palo Verde. I drove up to her, and she had a 40 of some beer, in a brown paper bag of course. I asked if she wanted to get in, and then she asked if I party. I told her no, that I was looking to get laid. She asked how much I'd give her, I said 20. She told me that first I have to take her to get some coke. I told her that I'm not a chaufeer. I finally said "Look, I'll give you 40, and I don't have to drive you anywhere, deal?" she said ok.
She finally gets in the car, and she is so nervous that it was starting to rub off on me. She said she has never done this before, but wanted to because she is mad at her boyfriend.
We got to a secuded spot. and she told me she didn't want to fuck. She said she'd give me a bj. It wasn't very good. It was uninspired, and not exciting at all. I told her to use her hand, and that was the ticket. the second-best hand job I've ever had in my life. 40 is steep for what was esentially just a hand job, but it was so good that I don't regret it.
she said she would not be doing this again. I have not seen her since, but that means nothing, because I haven't seen anyone else out either.
Her name is Dee, and she is a hispanic woman about 40, just a little heavy, and wore glasses. Big long hair. Someone let me know if you hook up with her.
Originally posted by SlimShady2K
"The Mexican Dive"...are you referring to Los Betos? Maybe you should have asked "Cindy" to see the ring on her finger or something. What does she look like?
Yes, Los Betos sounds right.
No ring... I never believe any of them, but I do report the story if it seems to fit the evidence. She was nervous and admitted to being a drug addict, so that could also explain the paranoia.
She was caucasian and had short sandy brown hair. Did not have the opportunity to appraise her figure since she stayed dressed, but a bit of groping determined about B size cups, natural. Darn cold weather this week has made it tough to appraise from a distance...
Cheers,
LoveLOS
Hey Guys,
Just had the best SW F*** of the week. I was at Curves tonight after my excursion to Nogi (See report) and darn I hate tittie bars. All bluff an no substance. I left leaving horny but distinctly unsatisfied. Got lucky on my first pass thru the MM. Saw my first SW on the curve of Romero just off MM.
Said her name was Michele. Very attractive (I'd give her a 7+) 19yo Blond/Brown hair (tied in bun), Skinny hips with A-B cups and tight twat. She did't seem drugged and was not nearly as paranoid as the other SW's I have picked up this week. She was up fromt about her prices and had a good parking place in mind. She provided the raincoat, and I gave her a couple more since I was satisfied with her attitude... She was not rushed and I chose FS, but the BJ would probably be very satisfying also. She did not mind my groping and sucking her 32ABs.
No phone, but here is the scoop: She claims she is getting $$ together to get out of town and go back to Missouri where she has a decent job lined up. She is leaving on FRIDAY. Tonight she plans 2-3 more tricks, an all nighter. If she is not lying, she is going to be working hard, then gone. She lives on Romero between MM and Prince, which is where I dropped her off.
LE was around, but seemed occupied by several altercations at different places around the strip.
I now leave the streets of Tucson to you guys, I hope my input has helped you mongers. Love your town and thanks for making me feel welcome.
Happy Hunting,
LoveLOS
PS: Egg, NotoriousPoppa and BorderGuy, you have mail.
Originally posted by Desert Rat
LoveLOS: I agree about punters or johns being assholes to the ladies. I have had many unhappy women get in my car who have warmed up to my polite and calm demeanor. If she only wants a ride, be a gentleman and give her a ride. At the end of the ride you might be invited in for some fun.
I thought she was going to do just that... Gave me a hug and kiss when I didn't want money...
Originally posted by Desert Rat
Poppa: You and Slim Shady enjoy those titty bars but I cannot get into it. I dated a dancer for a short time and now equate dancers to con women. They take your money in exchange for very little or nothing in terms of human contact. I think the dancers in Nogales are the real deal. If you like how they look take them upstairs and fuck their brains out.
I tend to agree... USA tittie bars are like internet sex sites, a lot of hype but they leave you wanting the real deal. Nogi rocks. See my third and final report there too.
Enjoy!
LoveLOS
hey guys,
My date with Aleta turned out to be blank - her boyfriend was there when I arrived and I left before the scene got nasty. when I called again on Sunday I got the same guy, who said she had split. Sorry for getting your hopes up!
The streets were empty Saturday night (except for one SW I've seen on MM half a dozen times, and won't pick up - I stopped once and when I saw her close up I wouldn't unlock the door and drove off. She looks like Keith Richards, if you know what I mean.)
Finally went to Nogi (I'll post a report there), to get laid and blown.
Coming cback into Tucson I missed the turnoff for I-10 aand ended up on Freeway and 22nd. Lo and behold, at 3:30 am there's a SW at the lights by the circle K and she's a legit 10 for looks and 10 for body (I'd go higher if the scale allowed - she had the best body I've ever seen, even on top $ dancers.)
I circle the block and she's gone, so I look in the Circle K and she's there, so I go in and offer her a ride. She accepts and I'm thinking, "Can I do it a 3rd time tonight, after being up for 20 hrs straight?" And the vitamin V had worn off at at 1:30 PM, so I had little hope, but figured what the hell, she's worth it. Her name is Vanessa, and she's heavily made up but still gorgeous, wearing a micro-mini and a flimsy top with no bra to hold up her D-cup titties with the nipples pert from the cold and sitting on the upper surface of the tit. Unfortunately, she turns out to be pretty incoherent - I can't get a straight answer out of her and she is wobbling around and really unsteady. Downers, it turns out. She finally says she'll give em the beswt blow job I ever ahd for $50. We stop to get her some food, me hoping it will settle her somewhat, but she seems to be getting worse and can't give me directions to her apartment and nods off a couplel of times. Now I'm getting worried she's going to OD so I figure get her out of the car ASAP. I drop her at an apartment soemwhere on the SW side of tucson and breathe a sigh of relief and regret. I did get to fondle her tits a couple of times, but that was it. Too bad!
Sunday night was another street adventure, this time with a hot ticket named Elaine. I picked her up on MM at the east end, but she lives at the other end. She was totally undrugged, and had a great attitude. I give her a 9 for looks, a 10 for attitude, a 9 for performance, but only a 6 for body (she's 5'8" and weighs 140). Tits are a bit saggy and she's got a saggy belly and ass, but oh my can she fuck! She claims to ahve been in a Hustler feature 3 years ago, and has the looks for it, thoguh her body doesn't seem to be up to that. For $50 she came to my motel and gave me a bbbj and bbfs in all positions, with enormous enthusiasm and genuine orgasms. I got to do DATY with fingering, and came away with a sticky finger from her release of juices. Due to running a fever and having a stinking cold I was unable to come, so I offered to take her out for a bite to eat, then back for more. She agreed, and turned out to be a talker with some good stories and a good companion out of the sack as well as in. We returned after eating and she tried to get me off but I couldn't do it - I was sweating from fever, and didn't have a hard on left in me. I dropped her at her motel door and got the phone number, which I hope to use tonite. If this one works I'll ask if she wants it shared...
LoveLOS - I'll be looking for Michele - from your description her body sounds like my type!
Originally posted by SlimShady2K
BTW when do they have this free pizza buffet?
Candy Store serves Free Little Caesar's Pizza on Sundays. I think on other days of the week they have Nachos.
I've been seeing Kiki around Balboa, 11th, and Oracle a lot. I wonder how many times she is going to have to have sex for money, before she realizes she IS a pro. Sometimes she looks a little rough. I saw her on 11th when I was out riding my bike and it looked like someone had punched her in the mouth. She asked for $5.00 to buy some clothes and copped a little attitude when I said no. When I first met her, she said she had used crack 3 years ago and started back up again recently when her boyfriend went to jail. It seems she may be going downhill quick.
I picked up "Cheryl" on MM. She is older (40's/50's?, who knows) but doesn't look too bad. Short blond hair, all right body when she is wearing clothes. Nice Fake breasts but a really loose stomach when she is undressed. She normally dresses well and has a good attitude. I used to see her a lot about 8 months ago, but stopped. I think seeing a few of the escorts from the TW and the girls at angels heaven raised my acceptable level of attractiveness. Cheryl does give one of the best BBBJ I've had though. In fact I think she may be the woman egg posted about on 2-8. Real enthusiastic deep throat, ball sucking, shaft licking and cum swallowing at the end. I think the SW who compares to her in the art of sword swallowing is Michelle. Although her technique is different. Cheryl is enthusiastic almost rough with it. Michelle is very soft and gentle. Taking it out of her mouth to lick up and down on the shaft gently. Michelle normally doesn't let you come in her mouth either.
I picked up Shae last week again. Was planning just a nice BBJ, but them biggun's she has and her soft skin made me go for the whole shebang. I think she is either getting comfortable with me or the job, but she seems a lot more relaxed and casual now. It was very enjoyable. She said that she had gotten a lot of phone calls and people stopping by the hotel. She wasn't pleased. She said Benny from Bootyball even stopped by looking for her. Maybe thats why she isn't big on talking on the phone.
I called "Angel" from the TW. She is one of Benny's. She is working out of a room on Stone near the Flamingo. $100 FS for a half hr. She said she maybe had an appt coming, but I could come over and get a look at her and if the appt. didn't show up, we could have a go. On the phone (I believe) she said 36 D's and a 20 inch waist. I really wanted to see that. But maybe I heard her wrong. Small breasted slender girl. Fairly attractive, seemingly firm body but nothing special. I wasn't too disappointed when the appt. showed and I had to leave.
Went to Angels again on Sunday. A girl I saw in the parking lot the last time I was there, who I thought was absolutely gorgeous was working. "Tropical Angel" tall, half hawaiian/half white" gorgeous face, firm, slender body with nice fake breasts. I booked a half hour. Started running my hands up her firm legs under her dress while she was giving me a massage. She pushed my hands away and said, "Lets discuss the deal first" or something like that. The deal was - topless $80 massage with HJ. For $100 she would strip down to a thong "light touching" but not under her thong, and a hj at the end. These were higher prices than what I had paid previously (although she IS a knockout) and I had only brought enough for $80 over the cost of the massage. First I said topless hj, then she took off the top her dress and rolled it up around her waist. I said screw it, just give me the massage, no frills. I suppose I was kind of pissed off with all the bullshit, I don't know why. She gave me a crappy massage, not because she had a bad attitude, just because she isn't trained in massage. She did a lot of rubbing AROUND my crotch. I got to feel her firm slender body from outside her clothes and almost said, gimme the $80 HJ, but I'm glad I didn't. I gave her a $20 tip at the end. So it was titillating, but not satisfying. There's another gorgeous girl I want to see there who indicated she may be willing to do some stuff away from Angels. I think that will be all I will have to do with that place (although I can't promise it, I have a weakness for the type of women they have there).
As far as the dancer discussion, I think there a lot of con women working as strippers but there are a few who will do private shows for Escort prices. In fact I've found 2 dancers at curves who have done "Private Shows" at my house for $100. Not too shabby. The problem is, as far as I can tell, you have to get a couple private dances at the club before they feel comfortable letting you in on their outside business ventures and you could waste a lot of money on blind alleys. Also, "private show" means different things to different people. With one of the girls, private show meant FS. The other private show meant just that, a show. Some touching, but not much more than you would do in the VIP. I would hate to tell you how much $ I've wasted at Curves in my little quest. Though, sometimes the thrill of the hunt is almost as enjoyable as the kill.
Egg,
I still would like Aleta's number and/or directions to her place.Sorry your date didn't happen.
borderguy999@yahoo.com
Damn, EGG!... you are one superconductive HO magnet! :) You are fast becoming my new comic book hero!
Ivel
Desert Rat
02-10-03, 21:11
Egg: Thanks for the report about Vanessa. I was laughing my ass off. I had the same thing happen to me with a dancer. She fell asleep in my lap while I was driving. I didn't know where she lived so I took her back to the club and handed her off one of her friends. So much for my private party! I have a new email: desertratwsg@yahoo.com if you have private information to share. Too bad about Aleta. The same thing happened to me with the original Mother/Daughter team. I show up and the girl starts yelling, "My Mom is not home!" Well, I came to fuck you honey can your boyfriend take a ride?
da_hunter: I know a man who actually went broke from spending money on dancers. One of the dancers at Curves sucked every dollar out of his wallet over a nine month period. She would even call him at home if he did not come in during her shift. The sad part is the guy was not bad looking and could have had an escort every night for what he spent on dances. It can be fun, but what a poor damn return on your investment.
LoveLOS: You the man! Thanks so much for your posts about Tucson. I hope you remember the Old Pueblo as a pleasant detour on the road of life. I myself have never been to the Land of Smiles, but will definitely make a trip in the near future.
SlimShady2K
02-10-03, 21:20
Hell, I know titty bars are mostly about teasing and no pleasing, but some of us can't go to Nogales everytime we get horny. I go to the local clubs with friends, so that is also a factor. But the thing with dancers is, YMMV (in and out of the club).
SlimShady2K
slim2kshady2000 at yahoo dot com (as long as we're all dropping emails now)
Mystic Pimp
02-10-03, 21:53
My comments for today:
I agree with you guys on the titty bar thing. But like Slim Shady 2K said, it's not that easy for all of us to go to Nogales all the time. A few of us here alone could improve on "border relations" with all the (mostly) willing ladies south of the border... :) I'll have to check out the Nogales board later.
As far as just giving ladies a ride, from time to time it has led to pleasantly suprising (and FREE) extras for me...so being nice on the streets can pay off.
That mother/daughter team, I don't know if it was the same two that worked off of Oracle and Glenn or not...but their methods sound similar. I wonder if they just didn't move to the Romero area within the last year.
I remember Josephine had consistenly good reviews. She operated out of an eastside apt, but I heard her phone was turned off, and I don't see her ads anymore in the TW.
Pugulist: That Circle K you mention, is it on Palo Verde and Ajo? I've seen some girls there occasionally, usually at night, or early evening to late night when the swap meet is active down the road. Occasionally I'll see people by the Circle K on Ajo and Country Club.
"Dee" sounds like some lady I used to see on the southside, she was either hispanic or native american. Wore glasses, big titties, but she went all the way. She was in some sort of relationship with somebody, can't remember if it was a hubby or bf.
"Elaine" and "Vanessa" sound interesting. BTW what race or ethnicity is Vanessa? Michelle sounds like someone that has been mentioned before, people say she has that "Jailbait" look to her.
NotoriousPoppa
Mystic Pimp
02-10-03, 22:05
Originally posted by Pugilist
Last Saturday night, of course I saw empty streets again, I'm starting to think that my car has some sort of long-range SW repellent.
So are you driving around some old clunker, or some ride that looks like a cop car? You don't have to be specific, just curious. Some girls out there will look at certain rides and refuse to have anything to do with that particular car. Others may look for specific types of cars (ie luxury cars, late model SUVs).
I've heard that some guys pick up ladies on a bike, some roll around in the back of a cab, but what do most people use? Late model cars/trucks? Rentals? Work vehicles (or commercial vehicles)? Something else? I remember a few years ago, I saw a hottie SW get picked up by the Tropicana Hotel in a Tucson city vehicle (like a work truck or something)...that was some strange shit to be seeing, and pretty ironic too.
Mystic Pimp
02-10-03, 22:22
I posted this about a year ago:
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Ripoffs:
-- anyone advertising for www.tucsonsensuousmassage.net (ad says "I'll lavish your body with loving hands...850-3765")
-- Missy (256-3214)
Helen? ("Beautiful lady will do heavenly massage for you...237-4703") also advertises this ("Perfect Touch: Outcall Massage...237-4703")
Also about a year ago, I posted about seeing a few girls working Valencia between 6th Ave and I-19. Don't know if there's any activity there or not as of now, but check it out for yourself if you have the time.
poppa: the Circle K i was referring to was the one on Palo verde and Drexel area.
also, I drive a muscle car, not late model. i find it hard to believe anyone would confuse mine for a cop car
and also, concerning valencia between 6th and i-19, I live in that area, and I cal tell you it's just as dead as the rest of the town has been for me lately. even during what I call the "golden age" of the mid-to-late nineties it never saw much activity.
review of "Sexy Sarah" in/out call 24/7 591-4954 NO RIP-OFF!!!"
after striking out on the streets yet again, I decided to pick up the tucson weekly. I know escorts aren't the smartest people in the world, but c'mon...someone needs to teach them how to operate a telephone machine, because almost none of them know how to answer a phone.
anyway, got a hold of sarah, said she could meet me right away, but that she was staying with a friend, and that there were sewing materials all over the place. I told her I didn't care, and that I only cared about performance, not atmosphere.
She told me to meet her in the parking lot of savers on broadway across from park mall. I said I'd be there in about 15 minutes. she told me to call her when i got there, which i did, about 14 minutes later.
She said she would be there in two minutes. must mean metric time, because in sumerian time I was waiting there about 15 minutes, already a negative tone set.
she signaled for me to follow her, then we drove to some neighborhood streets. she pulled over then came to my car to talk to me. she said that there was troubles with whoever she was staying with, and starting to go through this whole procedure we half to go through. I told her that I wasn't interested in jumping through a bunch of hoops, and that even though I wanted to get laid it wasn't worth all that trouble and aggravation. She then proposed that we do something in her car for less money. I asked how much less, and we eventually agreed to a cbj for $60.
We drove deeper into the neighborhood, and pulled into someone's driveway. she then told me to come into her truck. i then saw her...her looks were as promised pretty much, which is about 5'8", about 130, long brown hair, and 36 c's. Her body was very nice, but her face looked a lot older than the 34 years she told me she was. I prodded her about her age, and she eventually told me 42. I think it might be more than that, but oh well. she told me she says 34 because she's afraid men wont want to be with her if she revealed her age *sigh*. her face has quite a few miles on it.
anyway, she partially undressed, showing me some nice tits, and a nicely manicured pussy. her sstomach had a few stretchmarks on it, but i have seen plenty worse in my time. She told me not to suck her tits or to pinch them because it hurt. whatever.
She got started on her cbj, which was very boring. i proposed sex, telling her it wouldn't take me as long. she then told me that it would be $120. fuck that! that's the same price as if we were in a bed, like i understood we would be to start with.
she then finished me with a hand job and some lotion. she talked to me for a couple minutes, then said she had to go because she had another appointment soon, which was obviously a lie, since only 15 minutes had passed. but whatever, i was kind of angry, and just wanted to get away from her.
summary....good body, nice tits, horrible face, horrible service. DO NOT RECOMMEND
Merlin Magician
02-11-03, 21:34
Desert Guy, Michele should do well in Branson. I know girls there who do a lot of business on Sunday mornings and Wednesday nights at chruch parking lots. They especially get busy when church conventions hit town, especially the Baptists.
Of course, the tourist crowd there is fair game too. About like Vegas when it comes to tourist business.
It may be a town in the heart of the Bible Belt but those bible thumpers buy pussy and blow jobs too. Dont even think they don't.
Mystic Pimp
02-12-03, 00:11
Last night I saw a "working" girl at a bus stop on Craycroft in front of the DM Motel (between 29th St and Golf Links)...was white or hispanic, dark haired, had people with me so I couldn't find out more. Saw another dark haired girl tonight on Grant just east of Silverbell, walking towards I-10. Looked like she could have been working, but I was preoccupied, so I couldn't test this either.
Originally posted by LoveLOS
I now leave the streets of Tucson to you guys...
OK, I lied... I took one more before I left. hehehe
BTW - thanks Desertguy for the tip on the $1/hour internet cafe. It's the real deal, $1 per hour with fast access... A bit seedy and damn amusing to watch other users... The guy beside me was hot and heavy looking at porn site intros. I was dying at his comments. Finally I couldn't stand it anymore and I pointed his browser to domai.com so he would at least get some tasteful nudie pics. He gave me a two-thumbs-up when I left...
I finished my posts at the internet cafe and was driving back to the hotel, having had FS three times in the evening. I was on Oracle and there was a medium grade SW at the Bus stop in front of the apartments between Grant & MM; I thought a BJ would be nice, not to mention probably the only way I would get off yet again...
Around the block and she got in. Her name was either Sheila, Celia, or Cecelia... It was 4am and I was a tired puppy. Long Dark hair, Slit dress, medium build, probably 34, but she claims 28. She was NOT high or paranoid. Very chatty and I enjoyed the company, she is not shy about being a $ hound... She was from Maryland. She wanted $30 for BJ, when I told her I normally pay $20, she assured me it would be worth it. It was. Best BBBJ I have had, which is probably the combo of my previous overstimulation and her oral skills. Took 15 minutes, but she persisted without complaint or loss of enthusiasm. Looks 5, Service 9, Attitude 10
da_hunter - Picked Sheila up the same place I met KIKI, which sounds like where you have seen her. She was with the same black guy and confirmed he "protected" Kiki too, so I can officially dis Kiki's story about not being a pro...
Desertguy - Glad you found Michele. Hope for her she gets the regular job back. Guys she rocks and I think she is telling the truth. Cruise Romero this week-see my report one page back.
SlimShady2K & NotoriousPoppa - I meant no offense about the relative lack of mileage at the Tucson tittie bars. As you can see, I went twice when in town, but BOTH TIMES I left there and found a SW to help relieve the stress.
Pugilist - your car should work better than mine. I had a rental that didn't even have tags yet. Scared a couple of SWs since undercover LE often does the same thing. I never saw a SW before midnight, and they are PLENTIFUL at 4am, which is admittedly an inconvenient time. I think the trade is so brisk that they are getting picked up in the earlier hours. I had two snatched from me in my week there.
Egg - Next year dude. Thanks for the backchannel conversation.
For the record I defer to EGG as the master sex hound, but here are the stats for my trip, including Maryland Spas:
Days - 7
HJ - 1
BBBJ - 2
FS - 9
Miles on Rental Car - 800
Happy Hunting,
LoveLOS
Thanks for the info on Angels heavon, I was wondering about Tropical angel how she was. I guess u answered my question i will avoid her. I been there on about 3 occasion, the last time must of been about 2-3 months ago. I think the best that I've seen was Spanish Rose(too bad she is longer there), Davina( I think) gave a sorry massage, but nice bod. Maybe cuz she was getting ready to get off and was tired but it was sorry. Then the last one was Spanish angel nice massage, nice bod and concersation, ok HJ but that was it. Was thinking of trying to check out Angel Baby (think her name is Kelly), saw her there before was real stunner. Got any info. Thanks again
SlimShady2K
02-13-03, 22:22
Was at the Boat the other night, one interesting conversation I had with a dancer, she mentioned that if I had enough $$$, roughly half the girls in there and in Curves would be willing to do some "naughty" things with customers. She mentioned in the club and out of the club, but I doubt I'll be trying to find this out firsthand. I'll save up some $$$ and go down to Nogales or something.
Driving around last night, Oracle was sort of active. Saw one girl in a blue jacket and blue full length skirt, a few people chatted with her at the Oracle and Grant Circle K, then moved on. She got in someone's car before I could really do anything...other activity around 29th St and Columbus. Two girls walking together, one was high, the other seemed too shy. The white girl I asked her straight up if she was working, she said no, she just lives in the area. She went into some apt, and the other girl, a hispanic, said her friend was working. The hispanic seemed to be more interested in getting hits from her pipe than anything, she really wanted a $20 spot, I supposed I could have worked something out with her, but I passed on it. She was a little too high for my tastes. I'm sure they'll be around again, if they stay out of trouble.
I'm with ya there...I won't hire a girl who seems to be high, nor will I let her do any drugs when we're together, and though I used to fall for it, I don't take them to buy their drugs either. I spell this out, and it has cost me a couple dates, but I don't care. Not worth the headache, and I don't like that in-my-face reminder that the only reason they're having sex with me is because they're hurting for drugs. But that's not what I'm posting about...
I saw a girl on the bus bench on 6th ave south of 1-10 in front of taco king (used to be burger king). I forgot her alisases, but her real name is Julie. She is hispanic with long dark hair, wears heavy make-up at times, and is of average build for a streetwalker. DO NOT PICK HER UP!!!. She may look OK buy SW standards, but she ripped me off a few years ago. I have since obtained my revenge against her, but still...if she has priors of stealing client's money, then she is someone that we all should avoid.
I picked up Shae last week again. Was planning just a nice BBJ, but them biggun's she has and her soft skin made me go for the whole shebang. I think she is either getting comfortable with me or the job, but she seems a lot more relaxed and casual now. It was very enjoyable. She said that she had gotten a lot of phone calls and people stopping by the hotel. She wasn't pleased. She said Benny from Bootyball even stopped by looking for her. Maybe thats why she isn't big on talking on the phone. [/i]
If she goes to work for Benny then her rates will definitely go up! I've tried to hook up with her on multiple occasions and each time it failed. If she's not pleased by unannounced guests and frequent calls perhaps she should get a pager. I'd really like to have some fun with the twins!!! Every time I've cruised the area she's not out, and my experiences in calling were reported here previously.
I contacted mexicoed from escorts recently. She replied that she's hispanic, 23, 5'4", black hair, green eyes and a D cup. If anything happens I'll report back.
so she doesn't like phone calls or unannounced guests...so what? I ain't got no pity for her. Maybe if she or some her her colleagues would make themselves more available then calling her or stopping buy wouldn't be necessary. I haven't stopped buy, and I might have called her once and was told she was sleeping at 9:30 PM (don't remember whether or not it was her, been too long), but if I did I offer no apologies for doing it.
Drove around MM/Oracle/Prince/Romero late night/early morning saw 2 SW's. One with 2 Black guys, when I pulled up, they, not her, wanted to talk. If she was more attractive I might've risked it. The other SW was an older blonde on MM/14th. Passed her up twice, then started thinking that maybe she's the "Taz" egg wrote about that gives good bbbj. Came back around and she was gone. Oh, well... with most of the girls I see out there, it's no big deal if I miss 'em, it's only every once in awhile I'll see a real looker and regret not getting there quick enough. And even then, I find a lot of the girls look half decent on the street, but when they get in your car up close it's a different story. Saw Michelle for the last time on Thursday. Brought her back to my house good fs for $40. Sorry to see her go.
As far as Shae and most the other SW's are concerned, I don't think a lot of them have much business sense. I think it's more of a "work when you need the money" kind of thing. If Shae got her shit together, she could probably be making a lot more out of the TW than she is making out on the streets.
I saw Sexy Sarah out of the TW a few months ago. Pretty much the same experience as pugilist. She said she used to be a dancer and I foolishly believed that meant she would be reasonably attractive. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying she's ugly. She'd be a find on the streets, but paying escorts prices for her is a different story. Sometimes attitude and enthusiasm will make up for a lack of looks, but in her case, it didn't.
Rupert1 - Divina you spoke of now works out of the TW, I think the ad says something like "Pure Bliss". I've been calling for over 2 months trying to get in but apparently she's pretty booked up and requires advanced booking. Kelli may be the one I wrote about on 12-19. Sweet young thing. Good attitude. I'm probably going to work my way through all the "Angels" maybe I'll find one who will do a little outside business.
Mystic Pimp
02-15-03, 17:37
Comments:
As far as SWs w/ "pimps" involved, I would avoid any female that can't come up to you and talk herself. Unless you are looking for stuff besides sex, there's no good or safe reason to do so (I don't care how good looking they are, if one of the guys pulls out a gun or knife on you, lots of good a hottie will do you, you'd be fucked!!
The girls that insist on "dope first" (meaning they pretty much admit to you that their first priority is getting drugs) should also be avoided, unless you like to be a taxi service. An actual cab driver may have time to fuck around like that, but the average person probably doesn't. I've seen a few chicks who are like "Can my friend come along too, we gotta go somewhere"...I gotta be really biased, I'm not gonna be picking up any "male friends" of these ladies, that's not why I'm out there.
The stripper/escort theory: If current or former dancers are now escorting, many of them must be used to getting a lot of money for not doing too much. Most dancers I have seen have had at least decent bodies (meaning I've never seen any grossly huge women dancing). Some of them stay in shape better than others. Pregnant chicks I would probably put in another category, whether they dance or not...call me a freak, but I find it a little bit interesting...but anyway, my point with dancers (such as Sarah) is that they are used to getting a lot of money for what we would consider shitty service, if you want this to stop (either she improve her service, which isn't likely, or put her out of business) then you guys have to STOP seeing her. Hell, maybe post as much info on her as possible, like area of town she operates from, looks, contact info, etc....sorry to hear of you guys who had to deal with her shit.
BTW who's the person who doesn't like phone calls or unannounced guests? If she gives out this info, what does she expect people to do?
SlimShady2K
02-15-03, 19:43
Originally posted by Pugilist
I'm not geting as much backchannel information as I would like, so I'll post my email again in hopes of remedying that situation
xflbret at hotmail dot com
come on guys, help me out...i want to score!!!
You should check out some older posts, also this site called "escorts dot com" someone had a past review on a Tucson area lady. I've been checking it out, I've seen a profile for Rachel Kelly and a few "bootyball dot com" chicks, also profiles for a few strippers.
SlimShady2K
02-15-03, 19:53
Originally posted by da_hunter
Saw a girl from Escorts dot com. On the website she calls herself "OliviaR". She wouldn't say over Email, how much she charged. The pics on the website don't look too bad. I arranged to meet her late Friday night. She was the girl in the pictures on the website but she was a lot bigger than I thought. She took me to her house way up in Catalina. She was nervous about naming a price and asked me what I would pay. I said $50.00 ( I was almost hoping that she would refuse so I could leave without turning her down). She said she normally charges $75.00 for 1/2 hour but she was going to make an exception. When we started she said bj was $10 extra. I paid. It was alright but for some reason when I use an escort I expect her to be and look a lot nicer than most of the SW's I see. I think if I saw her on the street, I would pass her by. I have written to the other girls on the website that are in Tucson and will let you know how it turns out.
The prices seem cheap by escort standards, it sounds like it's worth checking out. So she took you up to Catalina? Did you guys meet somewhere, then go up there? She seems like she does mostly incall.
Originally posted by SlimShady2K
The prices seem cheap by escort standards, it sounds like it's worth checking out. So she took you up to Catalina? Did you guys meet somewhere, then go up there? She seems like she does mostly incall.
I met with Olivia awhile back myself. She is 5'10", ht/wt prop, red hair, green eyes and a C cup. I was there for just over an hour and had a VERY good time. She has very responsive nipples and DATY was on the menu and very enjoyable. She has lots of toys and I suspect anal might be available after a few visits. We met in the Oro Valley area and I followed her back to her place....and yes she is WAY out in Catalina. She is strictly incall as far as I know.
Mystic Pimp
02-18-03, 03:15
Cruised around a little, saw a hot looking latina on Ajo and 7th Ave, by the time I was able to turn around she was gone, this was about 11:30 on Mon night. Didn't really check out other areas, although recently there almost always seems to be at least one girl hanging out near the Circle K on Oracle and Grant. I've seen some chicks walking up and down Grant, from Stone to I-10.
BTW what is the name of that internet cafe downtown that's near Hotel Congress? Just curious to know. Thanks.
NotoriousPoppa at hotmail dot com
Any word on "EroticEmily" off escorts dot com? I searched around in here but couldn't find anything about her.. has anyone given her a try yet? She's got a nice body too.
A while ago, I called "Erotic Emily" (she has her number on another website), If I remember correctly, it was $250 an hour. She didn't look THAT hot to me and I read a bad review about her on (I think) ***. Of course, things are so subjective that maybe I missed out on something good. It's also seems that escorts change their fees depending on the situation. When I talked to Sweet Va at Curves and asked her how much for a private show, she took a long time answering. I got the impression that she was sizing me up to get an idea of what I would pay. It's also possible that she was wondering whether I was LE. BTW, the fee she quoted, $350, was way beyond what I was willing to pay.
Drove around early sunday night/Monday morning. MM, Oracle,Stone Drachman, Prince. Saw Kiki at Drachman and Stone. She gets in and starts asking me for money to go buy cigarettes before the date. I don't know why it irritated me, but that combined with the poor BBBJ (more like a HJ) she gave me the last time I was with her, made me say, "no thanks, go ahead and get out." She has a real nice body, but a good looker with a bad attitude doesn't do me much good.
On the Flip Side, Called Cashmere's to see one of her new girls "Michelle". She showed up when she said she would and did what she said she was going to do. She was all right looking but not my type. I believe she said she was Guatamlan but she had very dark skin. She was very slender with very small breasts and some stretch marks on her stomach. Good attitude and service though.
Also saw a new girl at Angel's "Rosie" (she didn't have an "Angel" name yet). Real slender hispanic, pretty face. When I started touching her during the massage she said she didn't feel comfortable yet. I asked whether she meant comfortable with me or the job and she said both. I don't know maybe she thought I was LE. More than once at Angel's, I got the impression they are waiting for me to make some overt remark about what I was looking for. Sometimes I don't feel comfortable doing that. So it turns into a Mexican standoff.
SlimShady2K
02-18-03, 18:21
$350??? Shit, "Sweet VA" is trying to feed us some NYC prices. Anyone in Tucson paying that just for a private dance should be....nevermind, I guess what you guys do with your money is your own business. I guess I'm a cheapass (there, I admitted it)...maybe I should save the $$$ I have and buy my own computer or something. From being in Curves a few times in the last couple weeks, only one or two dancers I would consider attempts to meet outside the club.
I've been checking out Bennie's site (bootyball dot com) and some of the girls in there look pretty good. So are ALL of them available for "escorting"? Also weird how some of them look like chicks I've seen before in town. Oh well.
Da_hunter: in my opinion, what right does some girl have to just ask you to be buying her stuff? Just because you pick her up? I think you did the right thing by booting her out.
Notorious Poppa: I've tried to follow some of your leads, but in the last week or so I feel as frustrated about the goings on in Tucson in general as probably Pugilist.
SlimShady2K
02-18-03, 18:31
Originally posted by desertguy
Michele is still in town. I saw her on Romero about 2am Sunday night(Mon Morning). I couldnt stop because I was working. Get it while its still here...One of the gems in this sorry town...
Does she work EXCLUSIVELY on Romero? It seems everyone who meets her picks her up there. I drove by there a lot last week, needless to say, I saw NOBODY on the stretch from Miracle Mile to Prince.
Originally posted by SlimShady2K
but in the last week or so I feel as frustrated about the goings on in Tucson in general as probably Pugilist.
is it that obvious? :D
I did see a SW at the circle K on benson and country club. she had an antocious face and man-hands, so i just couldn't bring myself to do it, though she seemed really agressive *sigh* one of the few exceptions to the old saying "better than nothing"
Originally posted by SlimShady2K
From being in Curves a few times in the last couple weeks, only one or two dancers I would consider attempts to meet outside the club.
I've been checking out Bennie's site (bootyball dot com) and some of the girls in there look pretty good. So are ALL of them available for "escorting"?
I've posted this before but, in case you missed it. There have been 3 Curves girls I've seen outside the club. 2 were dancers and 1 was a waitress. 1 of the dancers is an older (mid 30's) long haired blond. Good body, pretty face. The cost was $100 which is less than many of the escorts you find in the TW and she is a lot more attractive than a lot of them. She had limits of what she would and wouldn't do, but I think most would be satisfied with what she would do. The other dancer is is an extremely attractive 28 yo. $100 for 1/2 hr $200 for an hour. Nude dance with touching and the hr show includes a hj. As with any woman, it's possible she would've done more had I started flashing the cash. But I really couldn't say. The waitress is Dana leigh on escorts dot com. She doesn't work at Curves anymore and I don't even know if she is in the area. I've seen her several times so you can pretty much assume what I think of her looks and service. I'm sure there are more girls at Curves and the other clubs that will do stuff outside the clubs. These are the only ones I've seen outside the clubs.
I think right now Benny only has "Angel" the last girl on his site. Rachel Kelly is running her own business out of the TW and Azalea works for/with her.
SlimShady2K
02-19-03, 18:00
Da_hunter: damn there are a lot of blonds that work at Curves. But I think she may be a good deal.
As for bootyball, I didn't see "Angel" on the site (unless I was looking wrong, or it's in the paid membership section)... Azalea? Maybe you mean Azala?
Street activity, last night driving around, nothing...until I had to go pick up friends from the bar, I see a short blond walking on MM just past the Circle K. For speeding by her, she looked cute. Also saw 2 chicks on Oracle, one near the Circle K on Grant, and one a couple blocks down from Curves.
SlimShady2K
02-19-03, 22:48
Originally posted by desertguy
slim shady...in answer to your question ive never seen michele anywhere other than romero between ft lowell and MM. Normally late night from 2am on. Good luck--She is a nice kid...
Thanks for the tip(s)
StreetFiend
02-19-03, 22:54
It has been a while since I have given a report on Tucson. I have been treating myself to the SWs on VB of PHX. Anyway, the only thing I like about Tucson is the Escort scene. It seems the Escorts have a going rate of $250 to $400 in Phoenix, way too expensive for my blood. However, the Tucson escorts seem to range from $80 to around $200. My favorite escort outfit is Rachel Kelley's. Despite the fact that they are more expensive than most of the escorts, they have a track record of being available within a couple of hours, and in most cases just within an hour. The girls I have been with under Rachel Kelley's/Bootyball's service are Rachel Kelley, Alaza, Nikki, and Erica. I tried getting with Heather however, after two weeks of trying Benny finally told me that she quit working for him. Also, I know Angel works but she seems to only work the day shift. There is a new girl that Rachel Kelley says is working for her and her name is London. I am going to check her out. Also, does anyone know if Rachel Kelley actually works for Benny anymore. I assume she is but that group has gone through so many phone number changes and up and downs that is hard to keep track of what going on with them.
Mystic Pimp
02-20-03, 00:37
From the posts I'm reading, it seems like the north side of town is hot again, in terms of street action. I wouldn't mind running into Michele, or Alita, or Taz...but to pretty much be out all night to find them? Damn, guess it'll be a while.
michelle, the girl that works on romero that was mentioned...is she like really young? i think i saw her one night. the girl i'm talking about said she wanted me to help her get a room. i asked how old she was, and she said 18. i told her that she looked younger than 18, and i forgot exactly what she said, but she basically admitted she was ****.
when the girl is under 18, simple prostitution turns into a felony where you're looking at something like 20 years. even with how inexcusibly slow the streets have been lately, it's still not worth the risk.
Hello Tucson,
Here's report on my final adventures in Tucson...
The star of the show was Karen, who I picked up on Prince near Flowing Wells. She's 34 (I saw her license) and has a pretty face but was dressed very frumpy. We drove around for a while, with some very cagy negotiations, which culminated in Karen coming back to my motel room for half and half for $50. She stripped down and showered - she turned out to have a hard body and rippling belly muscles to die for, with nice B-cup titties, no sag. gave excellent bbbj and cfs, very enthusiastic and excellent attitude. We talked for a while, and she proved to be a very interesting lady - she had a double degree in marketing & business, and I invited her to spend the night, which she agreed to do for $100. I came 5 more times that night and the next morning, before dropping her off again on Prince. What a trooper!
Sorry to say she was on her way out of town, to avoid going back to jail, so she won't be available for any of you guys to check out.
My only other adventure before leaving town was a mistake - picked up Ceecee on Oracle just below Curves. She tried to give me a blow job, but it was so lame that I stopped her - her idea of a bj was to go full speed with her mouth and hand and stop to tell me I'd better hurry up. She's hispanic, early 40s, a bit heavy around the middle. Give her a miss.
The number I got from Taz/Lisa stopped working, so I tossed it. I never followed up on Elaine, but have contact info if anyone is interested. You can email me at egman01301@yahoo.com.
Tucson has the potential for a really good street scene, but the girls need some regular business to make it work. Go get 'em you guys...
See ya'll next year!
saw "selma", one of cashmere's girls. she doesn't work often and charges more than the other girls who work for cashmere. $200/hr, $130/half hr. i've been trying to see her for a while because cashmere really talks up how attractive she is. she was fairly attractive, not a supermodel or anything. i think the girls at angels are prettier (of course beauty is in the eye) the problem is that she hasn't been doing this long and it seemed she was a little uncomfortable with it. there were certain things she wouldn't do. actually a certain thing, neither bbbj or cbj. maybe because i have been anticipating seeing her for so long, i was expecting an "experience" and was a bit disappointed.
as far as the **** thing, i've heard that there were 2 hs girls 16 & 15 working out of the tw. they aren't there any longer, but if you think about the consequences, it can be a scary thing. i would assume getting caught with an **** escort would mean you would be a "registered sex offender" and all that entails. i don't believe that occurs with just a solicitation for prostitution charge. and in a lot of cases, you really can't tell. in another state, i saw 2 guys get mixed up with 2 **** girls who looked older, and even had id's which said they were older. but none of that seemed to make a difference to the judge.
almost saw divina "pure bliss" from the tw. she's another one i've been waiting a long time to see. she was supposed to be at my place at 8:30. everything had to be done by 9:30 ( i was expecting someone home then). 8:45 i called and she told me the person who works the phones for her left a message with me that she was running late. i'd been home the whole time and received neither a phone call or a message. he must've gotten a wrong number she said. she should be there in 15 minutes. it was cutting it close, but i had been waiting so long to see her, i figured i'd risk it. 9:00 still no show. i call her back, she's almost there, she says. too bad, too late. she cops an attitude. you should've told me that before i left my house, she says. it's like a doctors appt. you don't show up you still pay. i half expected her to show up at my door demanding money. i told her sorry it worked out that way. it's a shame, someone else on here said she had a smoking body and judging by how hard it is to see her, she might be worth it. i suppose i should've known that 15 minutes means 45 minutes or more to a lot of these girls.
review of Amanda/Mandy out of the TW, 272-7531. She also has an ad with a picture at the following link
http://www.phoenix-exotics.com/ads/tant/tuman422-l.htm
My experience was a mixed bag, read on if you're interested...
I called her, and she said she'd be available within half an hour. I'm impressed so far. She told me to head to Grant and Country Club and call her when I get there. Well, I did, and it turns out she wasn't in the area yet. She gave me directions to a house on the street behind decorator square, and to pull into her car port and wait for her there.
She took about 15-20 minutes to get there. She comes out of the car...her description seemed acurrate, except for one thing....yup, you guessed it, another provider lying about her age. She is adamant about claiming 34, but this woman I saw is at least 40 years old, guaranteed. Probably younger than 50, but definately older than 40. She had blond hair, and was of small build. I'm not put off by age, I'm just peeved that so many women lie about it, so I stay.
We go into her house, which is being reconstructed. She says she had a fire there and the damage from it is being cleaned up. I don't really care, I never care about atmosphere, just performance. We go into her bedroom, and then she gets ready, which took probably another 15 minutes.
She then enters the room with a blouse and skirt still on. We talk for a couple minutes, then she asks me to give her a back rub, which I did. I eventually worked off her skirt and blouse, and trouble...she looked much hotter with them on. She was wearing black stockings and this red teddy thing, but I could still see that her boobs were not the C's that were promised, and that her gut was a little bigger than it should have been. Upon further exam, her boobs looked like they were C's at one time, but they look like they had been deflated or something like with pregnancy or something. later when I got a look at her lower gut, same deflated look.
Then she proceedes to give me a blowjob. She starts with the balls which is great because most women neglect them outright. She then works her way up, licking and sucking the shaft, but won't put the head in her mouth. So I dunno if this was a cbj or a bbbj, because when she was ready to put the head in her mouth that's when she put the condom on me.
For a cbj it was really good. She was very enthusiastic. The fs was just as enthusiastic. I was very pleased with the sexual services.
We were talking afterwords, and she asked me about some other girls I've seen out of the weekly. When I told her about good experiences I had, she became jealous. It was very strange. I asked her if this was what was known as the girl friend experience. She then told me that she "fires" clients for seeing other girls. She insists on being the only girl her clients see. I then asked her if that goes the other way and that she sees no other clients, but she said it didn't work like that. She then told me about other girls she knew from the weekly. I'll share with you what she told me, take it for what it's worth, I don't know if I believe her or not...
She said Alaya Downs was very fat and very mentally unstable. And Sydney she confirmed was very tall, but she said she was old with a bald spot and that her skin was over-tanned like leather or something.
She must have enjoyed my company, because she asked me to hang out with her until her next appointment arrived. She then said that I should go to the kitchen and make her brownies. I didn't do that. She asked what I do for a living, and I told her that I'm a computer tech. She told me she was having troubles with her computer, and I told her I'd be happy to fix her problem for a straight across trade...my services for hers. She seemed to agree. I started looking over her computer, then I told her what I needed to fix it was in my car (which was the truth). I guess she didn't trust me to go to my car, she asked me to settle up financially first. I said fine, I then asked how much she was going to knock of the price for my services, and she said that she would give me the extra time for free.....??? Extra time? It seemed that she expected me to pay for the time I was kept waiting while she got ready. Well, I told her that I'm not paying for that. My boss doesn't pay me for getting dressed and for shower time, so why should I pay someone else for the same thing?
I told her that I'm not a charity, and that I expect to be paid for my services also. She then told me that she would fix the computer herself. I said "as you wish"...I don't think that's the answer she was expecting, because she seemed to suffer some sort of mental breakdown at this point, she dropped her head and was just standing still and quiet. Very eerie. I figured I'd better get out of there. I asked her how much I owed her, as I couldn't remember if it was $150 or $160. She was in her own little world, not really responding to verbal inquiries, so I just dropped $160 on the bed and got the hell out of there.
So, summary...Looks, not really there, nor mental stability obviously, but the performance is there. If you're not concerned with appearance, then I would recommend her, but don't stay the whole hour, just get half an hour (it's enough with her), but make sure she understands that you're not paying for her "getting ready" time.
oh, a side note on phoenix exotics...
they say on some of them that the photos are verified and guaranteed. this is bullshit.
they are starting up a tucson page, and Missy is on that. I have seen firsthand that the picture is of her sure, but it is of her about 11-2 years ago, and about 40-50 pounds ago as well. So, if you choose to browse that site, take their photo "guarantees" with a grain of salt.
my link to the picture of Mandy that I listed in my review of her was removed. what's the deal with that?
incase the admin here is getting stupid with us or something, I'll post it again in a different way...
phoenis-exotics dot com , then click on tucson, and she is listed as mandy.
I have been reading this forum for some time and felt that I finally needed to contribute something here.
Picked up Sherry the other night on Craycroft at about midnight. I had read some of the other reviews of here on this board and was glad to see her out.
For a SW she is pretty decent looking, and has a better than average body.
She was right up front about needed some money, and we agreed on $40 for a BBBJ and FS. The BBBJ was quite good, she seemed very eager but told me up front that she would not take it in her mouth. I didn't expect her to swallow, but hoped that she would atleast finish the job and spit it out afterwards.
After the BBBJ she let me take her from behind and it was actually pretty decent doggie style.
I will definately pick her up again if I see her out on Craycroft, where she says she always works.
I posted a review of Mandy on 01-02-03. I didn't get as far as Pugilist. I left after I saw what she looked like and other assorted bullshit. I don't doubt what she's says about Alaya Downs though. I've found alot of her webpages on the web and some are just down right weird and rambling. Even the voice on her phone message seems a little off to me. I forget where, but there is an updated picture of Missy somewhere on the web. Maybe if I come across it again I'll post the location.
Mystic Pimp
02-21-03, 20:50
It seems that other than OliviaR on escorts dot com, most of these escorts seem to be full of unpleasant surprises.
For those of you cruising the streets, check out the eastside from 8 PM till the bars close (around 1 AM)...see info below:
I've noticed on some nights (between 8 PM and 1 AM) that a girl, or a few girls, seem to be hanging out or walking around the Broadway/Craycroft intersection. I've seen a few cute girls around there, they always seem to stop traffic. Just wondering if anything is going on there.
Also on various nights (between 8 PM and 1 AM), Speedway between Country Club and Wilmot has occasional girls walking either on the main road, or the side streets that intersect with it, or some of the streets that parallel Speedway (Bellevue St, 1st St, 2nd St, 3rd St). Around areas where there are clusters of apts or duplexes, no more than 2 or 3 blocks away from Speedway. More than likely this is where some "end of the month" tricks hang out.
Other strips or areas I've checked out recently:
-- Golf Links (Wilmot to Prudence)
-- Craycroft (Golf Links to 22nd St, Speedway to Grant)
-- Alvernon (Palo Verde split to 22nd St, 5th St to Ft Lowell)
-- Ajo (6th Ave to I-19)
On the northside, I see a lot of activity around the evening rush hour (I would estimate from about 4 PM to dusk), mostly along the southern part of Oracle.
Other strips or areas I've checked out recently:
Saw a girl eyin traffic at 10am Fri off speedway near swan, head on a swivel and all. Watched her get a date as I swung around. LE cruised slowly thru the lot just as I passed again, givin me the thought she'd been hanging around. Damned if there wasnt another a mile west. Seemed strange. Same aft at five I rolled down MM on an errand - three new girls lookin real good.
Ed...
WorldTraveller
02-21-03, 21:51
A note about Missy, she does have a more accurate picture posted in her Eros advertisement, it looks to be very current as opposed to her other one from 10+ years ago.
SlimShady2K
02-21-03, 21:59
Question for all of you out there (including you lurkers)...what are your preferences regarding women you would like to "hobby" with? This could be regarding age, race/ethnic background, and general physical characteristics. If you can think of anything else please add.
I will go first:
-- Age: under 30 preferred, defenitely under 50
-- Race: white, hispanic, native american, mixed (and maybe asian)
-- Physical stats: height under 5'10", weight proportionate to height (don't want someone too skinny, and don't want someone too fat either...if their stomach sticks out more than their titties, they're too fat)
I wouldn't mind trying out a pregnant chick, just to see what it's like. Some of you aren't interested in that, I understand.
Well, I wonder what the rest of you think.
SlimShady2K
slim2kshady2000 at yahoo dot com
Mystic Pimp
02-21-03, 22:37
Hey SlimShady, for the most part I think you have good taste. Talk to you later.
NotoriousPoppa
notoriouspoppa at hotmail dot com
>Question for all of you out there (including you lurkers)...what are your preferences regarding women you would like to "hobby" with? This could be regarding age, race/ethnic background, and general physical characteristics. If you can think if anything else please add.
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My hobbying opportunities are kinda restricted, but given the chance my lady would be:
- age: under 35, under 20 preferred
- race: asian is my fav, followed by anything with two legs
- Physical Stats: Slim, even skinny. A nice rack and bubble-butt are cream on the pie.
I've had a handful that meet the grade in the ol' Pueblo or in Phoenix, but when opportunity knocks the little head does the thinking...
Lar
Of course, these are my preferred conditions:
-- Age: under 30. under 25 preferred.
-- Race: caucasian
-- Physical stats: slim (not too skinny, though) or athletic build. I especially like petite women (short [under 5'6"], small breasts, slim).
Originally posted by Desert Rat
I agree with Pugilist completely about providing escorts with too much information i.e. anything more than your first name. I have contacted some of the upscale escorts in Phoenix, but have never visited them because of their digging into my personal life. Do you really want a hooker to have your work phone number?The problem is in Phoenix we have for years had lots of sting operations by vice cops going after web girls, newspaper ads, etc. So extensive screening or a referral from a known safe provider is required by many Phoenix escorts in Phoenix that have public sites.
That is why I have hosted the Phoenix-Tucson Private E-mail list since 1998 since so many do not want the LE risk of more public exposure.
But you are lucky in Tucson I'm told by many providers on the private list. Other than going after street hookers (which is where they should make arrests) there has been nothing like the stings that go on in Phoenix.
Dave in Phoenix
I can see what you're saying Dave. I don't want to get into a whole thing over this, but allow me to remind you of something...
as hobbyists, we are subjecting ourselves to just as much risk as providers are. We are every bit suceptable to being caught by a sting as they are. We're also suceptable to foul play, hence the "drivers" that many girls take with them to outcall appointments.
I'm not trying to say that our risks are greater than their's, I'm just saying that their risk is NOT greater than ours. I guess it gets under my skin a little bit that so many girls think they're risking everything and we're risking nothing.
But, like Desert Rat said, if they want my money, they'll respect my privacy. If not, I'll just take my money and spend it on someone who will respect my privacy.
Jospephine (damn I miss her) told me that her way to beat cops was to get the payment after the session was done. She said this made her prone to ripoffs, but that it only happened once during her "career". Damn I miss Josephine...
Mystic Pimp
02-22-03, 18:16
Originally posted by Pugilist
I can see what you're saying Dave. I don't want to get into a whole thing over this, but allow me to remind you of something...
as hobbyists, we are subjecting ourselves to just as much risk as providers are. We are every bit suceptable to being caught by a sting as they are. We're also suceptable to foul play, hence the "drivers" that many girls take with them to outcall appointments.
I'm not trying to say that our risks are greater than their's, I'm just saying that their risk is NOT greater than ours. I guess it gets under my skin a little bit that so many girls think they're risking everything and we're risking nothing.
But, like Desert Rat said, if they want my money, they'll respect my privacy. If not, I'll just take my money and spend it on someone who will respect my privacy.
Jospephine (damn I miss her) told me that her way to beat cops was to get the payment after the session was done. She said this made her prone to ripoffs, but that it only happened once during her "career". Damn I miss Josephine...
What ever happened to Josephine?
Originally posted by Pugilist
as hobbyists, we are subjecting ourselves to just as much risk as providers are. We are every bit suceptable to being caught by a sting as they are. We're also suceptable to foul play, hence the "drivers" that many girls take with them to outcall appointments.
Pugilist
With zillions of contacts, reviews and discussions hosting the private list since 1998 and by snail mail since 1996, I do not recall hearing of any hobbyist ever in Phoenix being stung by LE seeking private sexwork from providers on any private or public board. This excludes of course going after street hookers.
There are zillions of providers that have spent time in jail or had to pay huge legal fees to defend against the likes of Detective Sterling and his vice gang
Many providers have been arrested without even meeting a vice cop but simply say the wrong thing on the phone. I know providers that are usually very careful what they say get busted for a slip up like when asked if a hand job might be possible, if they say yes it might - they get an arrest team at their door Dr Denny is a prime example, saying the lignum (sp? the Tantra term for penis) could be part of his Tantra work. He was met outside his home when he came home a few days latter with the arrest team, and the judge "threw the book at him" since he wasn't repentant. I know many gals busted the same way.
Vice has gone through many of the public review boards and escort sites attempting to get the gals on the phone to say the wrong thing. They even called all the Phoenix providers on such obscure sites as goddesstemple.com where one of my massage friends that was very popular on the private list got busted again by what she accidently said on the phone!
I understand Phoenix PD subpoenaed all the records of New Times to identify the massage and personal services advertisers.
And for massage girls, Phoenix PD does frequent licensing checks and if she does anything sensual with a naked cop who may even fondle her as a sting customer, she is charged with "massaging to arose" as well as prostitution charges and faces a MINIMUM 5 days in jail and often gets 30 days in JAIL if convicted.
It seems clear to me the customer has almost no risk, compared to the huge risk of a provider, who advertises or is reviewed on a public board. Again I exclude the high risk of street hooker customers. That is why Phoenix providers if they are smart screen clients very carefully.
Dave in Phoenix
elwood1964
02-22-03, 20:13
Does anyone have info on Samantha in the TW or Daneleigh in escortsdotcom. Also so a Desert Rose in escortsdotcom. THanks
Originally posted by NotoriousPoppa
What ever happened to Josephine?
beats me, but if you hear anything, please let me know. Her phone number is now disconnected, and she no longer advertises in the TW, I had pondered dropping by her apartment, but then decided that would be out of line.
One thing is certain though...if Josephine was still around, I wouldn't be trying these other providers. Damn I miss her
Anyone else know?
Pugilist, I agree knocking on a providers door would certainly be out of line.
Josephine, aka Mistress Angela, likes hiking and horses and often mentioned that she was saving up to buy a ranch. Maybe her dream came true. I wish her the best. Nice woman.
Originally posted by usmale
Pugilist, I agree knocking on a providers door would certainly be out of line.
Josephine, aka Mistress Angela, likes hiking and horses and often mentioned that she was saving up to buy a ranch. Maybe her dream came true. I wish her the best. Nice woman.
She was mistress Angela? Are you certain?
Josephine also worked as Mistress Angela
WorldTraveller
02-24-03, 16:47
Someone had asked about Samantha from the TW. I would steer clear of her and here is why.
I tried to connect with her this weekend, but couldn't due to scheduling. But took down the info that she gave, at least 1 hour notice, etc etc etc.
I called back today at about 10:30 and made an appointment for 12 noon. She said that would be fine, but needed to call me back in a few minutes to verify. About 5 mins later, she called back to verify our appointment (kinda wierd, cause I had just talked to her) and told me to go to the Quikmart @ Silverbell and Coachlight Dr. in Marana and to call her at 12 noon from my cell phone and she would direct me to her house which she said was really close. Also, she said if you are going to be late make sure to call.
I got there and waited for 12 noon to come around, finally I called at exactly 12 noon, no answer, let it ring about 20 times, waited 5 minutes, let it ring again about 20 times, then at 12:10, same thing. After that I gave up, obviously she blew me off for whatever reason, cause she never called me back to find out where I was......
If a provider is going to run a business, then they should be responsible enough to run it like a business. Her time is worth $150 per hour, my time is worth nothing to her. I don't like that attitude.
Her ad says something about "tired of being teased", yeah Samantha, I got tired of the tease after driving all the way to Marana and waiting for YOU!!
The only way that she will get the message is if people refuse to use her service. Her service may be as bad as her appointment keeping.
Buyer Beware!
SlimShady2K
02-25-03, 01:12
Damn I know someone that lives in that part of Marana (she is definately NOT a working girl, just a friend)...
Last night I was driving with a friend, happened to see a blond, big titty chick walking southbound on Oracle near Curves, we happened to make a U turn near Main and Speedway to go up to the Foothills, and I saw her again, walking northbound. Definately a working girl. I would have attempted to pick her up if I was by myself. I'm not sure, but I think I've seen her in the area before. She may be a bit chubby for some of you guys, but I would have taken a chance.
One thing I noticed about the businesses around Oracle and Grant. The Circle K locks its doors from 10 PM to 6 AM (you gotta use a window to conduct business). Also the Jack in the Box locks access to its restrooms. One has to ask whoever is behind the counter to use the restroom now, and I bet it's strictly for customers only. The two businesses seem to be very busy whenever I go by there, for various reasons.
I saw a short Latina on the eastbound I-10 frontage road, just south of 22nd St. Didn't bother trying to turn around, it was late afternoon, with the construction and the traffic, I didn't think it was worth it.
Desert Rat
02-25-03, 22:07
For those who checked out Dave in Phoenix's website you know it costs some money. $100 a year to be exact. He is so protective of providers he puts hobbyist at great risk. I used to email with a fellow john who subscribed to his web site. He said the Tucson section was small, but most of the providers were posted in WSG or even ASP. He gave me a few gems, but unfortunately we lost contact and those providers are gone. I have personally always been very wary of Dave. I do not intend to patronize his site or adhere to his horny Christian bullshit.
Originally posted by Desert Rat
I have personally always been very wary of Dave.Dave's cool. His site is only recently pay, and well worth the cost, esp Phoenix area, incall/outcall, quality stuff. No street. In the four years I've known of him he's proven to be a champion of the industry, with all parties interest in mind.
Ed...
Mystic Pimp
02-26-03, 00:26
Originally posted by Desert Rat
For those who checked out Dave in Phoenix's website you know it costs some money. $100 a year to be exact. He is so protective of providers he puts hobbyist at great risk. I used to email with a fellow john who subscribed to his web site. He said the Tucson section was small, but most of the providers were posted in WSG or even ASP. He gave me a few gems, but unfortunately we lost contact and those providers are gone. I have personally always been very wary of Dave. I do not intend to patronize his site or adhere to his horny Christian bullshit.
So in other words, Dave's list is a waste of time unless you're in metro Phoenix on a regular basis.
Originally posted by Desert Rat
For those who checked out Dave in Phoenix's website you know it costs some money. $100 a year to be exact. He is so protective of providers he puts hobbyist at great risk. I used to email with a fellow john who subscribed to his web site. He said the Tucson section was small, but most of the providers were posted in WSG or even ASP. He gave me a few gems, but unfortunately we lost contact and those providers are gone. I have personally always been very wary of Dave. I do not intend to patronize his site or adhere to his horny Christian bullshit.
I'm with ya on this. I have no problems with Dave personally, but he has expressed views which place providers safety over that of ours, and why pay for information that we freely exchange here?
Yeah, I think that I too would advise staying away from that whole mess.
SlimShady2K
02-26-03, 16:33
On Tue night (2/26) was out, most of the girls I saw out there were along Oracle, or off of Oracle, all south of Grant, by a couple of motels, by Miracle Mile Movies, by Curves, and by the Circle K. There was one chick outside an apt complex near Prince and 1st Ave, but a few squad cars around as well.
Today I saw a few chicks over on Alvernon (and a block east of Alvernon) between Speedway and Pima. The one I saw on Sycamore (?) was in her 30s, blond, decent shape, nice sized titties, wearing a blue jacket and blue jeans.
Picked up "Lisa" on Laguna and 14th. Late 20's early 30's lighted skinned black girl, almost looked more mexican than black. Hair pulled back, big bulky black jacket. She had 2 small scars on her left temple. I brought her to my house for $50 FS (she added $10 for the travel time). We get here, she goes into the bathroom, comes back out and tells me it's her period so she can't do FS. I didn't want a BJ and even if I did, I wouldn't have driven the whole way back to my house for it. (I don't like FS in the car, but don't mind BJ's) I said no thanks. She tells me how good she is at it and how good it will be. I said WTF and drop my pants. She takes 2 licks and say, "OH, what about the money?" I said "$20 good?" She says that she charges $30. I say I normally pay $20 and it's not what I wanted anyhow. She says,"There's girls out there that will have sex with you for $5.00, I ain't like that." I don't care, I didn't want a BJ She isn't looking that good now that she's got her jacket off, and her attitude is starting to bother me. So I said forget the whole thing. She say,"No way, I already started." I say, "Sorry, this isn't what I wanted and I'm not paying $30." She said,"Give me $20, and it will be so good you will give me $10 more afterward, you'll see." I said ok. I've made this arrangement with Taz before and when I found out that she wasn't lying about how good it is, I gave her more money. But this wasn't that good, in fact it sucked. Started out ok, then turned into a hj. Afterward, she says,"What do you think?". I tell her, "it wasn't that good, sorry, I'm not giving you any more money." I drive her back and I can tell she is a little pissed. I figure, I'll meet her halfway and tell her,"If I have a $5 bill in my wallet, I'll give it to you." Not good enough for her. She asks me to drive her to Jack in the Box on Grant. I pull in by 11th. She says to go between Circle K and Jack in the Box. I've had problems with girls not getting out of my car when they think they got something coming. But I figure, I can always drive away if some of her homeboys are there. I drive around and park. She says,"So you're not going to give me that then?" I said,"No, I never said I would." Then I look down, and she has a little gun in her right hand next to her knee. I can't say whether it was real or not, but it really didn't matter to me. I was getting kind of pissed and I tend to do stupid things when I am angry. I put it in reverse drive around and pull up in front of the doors of the Circle K. I tell her to get out. She says, "You better be afraid." I just look at her and tell her, "Out." She gets out. I drive away, but I'm pissed. I drive back. She standing in front of the Circle K talking on the phone. Then she gets off the phone and gets in a cab. I figure I better leave well enough alone and take off. Don't know why I made such a big deal about $10. I've paid a lot more than that to dancers for less. Maybe just the principle of the thing. I know a lot of people might say I should've just given her the money, but fuck that. Girls have tried to take me more than once and sometimes I let it slide and sometimes I dont. I'm in the situation, so I make the decision.
Boy my butt is sore...
Had a chance to go mongering this weekend, so decided I'd find something quick and easy on the streets of Tucson rather than doing the drive to Nogie.
So after driving around for two hours and finding NOTHING (actually I did see one SG, body was maybe a 7 but face was about a 3 and it was early in the cruise so I gave it a miss..), I kicked meself in the rear for not heading south.
I went home and chilled out for an hour then got back on the streets and found Diane on Stone just south of Grant, first thing I came across and I was getting desperate.
I'd give the face and body a 5. She's about 35, hispanic, with a nice ass but saggy tits. Agreed on $35 for FS and she directed me to a small apartment complex off a side street. No sooner had I started the deed when she was telling me to finish. I was banging away doggy style but her whining about the time turned me off so much I gave up and kicked her out. Then I kicked meself in the rear for not heading south...
boy is my butt sore...
Kamperx
Originally posted by Desert Rat
For those who checked out Dave in Phoenix's website you know it costs some money. $100 a year to be exact. He is so protective of providers he puts hobbyist at great risk.
Would you like to explain how in the world I put hobbyist at great risk?
We warned about a provider with STD, never had an LE problem unlike the massive stings on public boards. I even mentioned when a provider was fired by R....... to hint there might be a problem without being more specific when I felt I couldn't (had nothing to do with STD issue)
Would you care to explain?
Yes, after six years it took too much time from my making a living so instead of discontinuing the list I was presuaded to make it on a subcription basis. $19.95 for 1 month to try, 14.95/month reoccuring, $34.95/quarter or $99.95/year ($8.33/month).
Most of the most popular providers you will never find on any public board, especially the lower cost ones that do not want the LE risk and prefer local happy repeat business.
And we share lots of other local, national and worldwide sexwork information and news that is of interest.
I don't intend this to be an ad, I don't mention the list on other boards unless someone like you tries to attack it.
But I really want to know how you think it puts hobbysts at any risk?????
Dave in Phoenix
Originally posted by da_hunter
Picked up "Lisa" on Laguna and 14th...
I too have had to deal with a SW getting violent with me. It was several years ago, and it wasn't a gun it was a knife. I just disarmed her, took the money back I had already given her for services not rendered, and pushed her out of my car minus her knife of course.
I see nothing wrong with what you did at all. In fact, I would have liked to see you take it a bit futher. I have no problems with SW who are fair and deliver what they promise, but some girls need to be taught that we're not going to tolerate being treated like that. If a girl doesn't want to do something, she should say so right at the start to aviod situations like this from ever arising. Fuck that *****.
Originally posted by davephx
But I really want to know how you think it puts hobbysts at any risk?????
First off, don't end a statement with question marks.
Now, I can't speak for desert rat, but you dave not too long ago expressed your view that our privacy is unimportant, but providers' privacy is very important. Then you went on this long speech about providers and LE, as if we're not risking being arrested ourselves. Don't believe me? Look at this site
http://www.ci.tucson.az.us/johns/
It's a site of names, ages, and pictures of, not providers, but hobbyists. An arrest isn't good enough for TPD, they have to humiliate us too. So don't tell me that our privacy isn't important.
While it is understood that providers are more than welcome on this board, what I like about this place is that it's hobbyists helping hobbyists. This partly means that hobbyists hold hobbyists' interest in higher regard than the providers' interest. You seem to hold providers interests in higher regard, so that in itself is risky, or if not risky, at least suspect.
I'm not trying to start a fight with you or anything Dave, I'm merely trying to explain why many of us choose to exchange information here as opposed to your service.
Originally posted by Pugilist
you dave not too long ago expressed your view that our privacy is unimportant, but providers' privacy is very important. Then you went on this long speech about providers and LE, as if we're not risking being arrested ourselves. Don't believe me? Look at this sitehttp://www.ci.tucson.az.us/johns/
Thank you for voicing your concerns.
The risk to the customer such as those on the site, I bet everyone of them was picked up in a street sting. As you may know I am very much against street hookers which in my view are a disgrace to professional private sexworkers and one reason the pubic will never support decriminalization of sexwork since all they usually think of is the drugged out street hooker.
Yet, I do not censor street hooker reports, we occasionally have them even though I think it is high risk disgrace the few that come in are included.
Since 1998, actually since 1996 when the list was via snail mail, I can not recall EVER A CUSTOMER OF A PRIVATE SEXWORKER being arrested. The risk is almost all on the provider in private escort, massage work.
That is why I suggest to provider they screen very carefully. So if that is how I put customers at risk by warning providers to check carefully to avoid the many LE entrapment stings I agree. But it seems a bit unfair for me making customers at risk by encouraging providers be very careful since they are almost always the only target in private escorts/massage etc.
I also do not know of any customer who has ever had a problem by being checked out discretely by a provider. But I can understand the concern. Usually I suggest for providers a referral from another known "safe" provider and confirming the client is "safe"
Dave in Phoenix
Well, Dave, what you have to understand about Tucson is that TPD has very misplaced priorities. Yeah, there's more LE action in the Phoenix scene, but that's only because the Phoenician selection is far wider than ours.
In the last 7 years we have seen a drastic shift in our street scene go from a buyer's market to a seller's market to no market at all. Back in 96 you could cruise and find a date inside half an hour. But now, most of us get completely shut out when we cruise for dates, not just once, but several times. I personally have not engaged in what I would call a "successful" SW encounter since last July.
So, all we really have here is the handful of girls who advertise in the TW, and as you can see by reading back a bit, that selection isn't exactly cream of the crop either.
The point I'm trying to make here is that I think you're likening the Tucson situation to the Phoenix situation. I have no doubt that you know your shit when it comes to the Pheonix metro area, but as far as Tucson, though it's realitively close physically, the hobby scene is DRASTICALLY different.
This means low-quality providers (as compared to Phoenix), and yes, hobbyists being targeted by LE. And because of our low-quality providers, the potential for blackmail is definately there if we submit information for a "background check" or whatever it is. I personally, while concerned with LE stings, am FAR more concerned with the blackmail issue. Just because a girl didn't blackmail a previous guy does not mean she won't do it to me. I see no reason why a girl should have my full name, address, DL number, etc., when she is only giving us a first name, and 99% of the time it isn't even her real one.
So Dave, I just can't see things your way, and while I mean you no offense directly, I sincerely hope that no other hobbyists see things your way here. If they did, it would take an already bad situation and make it much much worse.
Pugilist
You make excellent comments about Tucson.
Since I am very against street hookers (unless a city has specified zones of tolerance like in Europe and proposed in Canada) mainly since they present such a negative view to the public, the fact that they are hard to find now, to me is very positive. My risk comments are only about private sexworkers. And the risk in street hookers for customers would seem far more than screening by private providers.
I think we agree the LE risk for providers is very low compared to Phoenix. Many Tucson providers have told me this. Therfore, I agree that screening of clients by providers is far less reasonable in Tucson vs the vastly higher risk to providers in Phoenix (but virtually none for clients).
I sense in your comments you also may be less willing to provide info to "lower level" advertises such as in TW who you feel might blackmail you. I have never heard of any customer being blackmailed but again my experience is mostly in more the professional descrete providers in Phoenix.
It seems there are some quality professionals in Tucson but a few have recently left (Tia for example and some others). We get consistently good reports on Alaya (higher cost) Cashmere's girls (reasonable cost) and although quite expensive the angel massage place, and a few other gals. But certainly your selection and options are far more limited, which is why I can also understand that some folks have an interest in street hookers, dispite by negative feeling about them and the higher risk. Of course you are also closer to Nogalas Mexico which some might enjoy.
Well, I am gratified you are seeing what I'm trying to say Dave. And, as you hinted, perhaps we in Tucson are more tolerant of the street scene then our Phoecian counterparts. As we discussed, our choices are limited.
But, like I said, our street scene has drastically dried up. This is not to say that we take whatever we're given. In fact, I have passed on several street girls because they haven't lived up to standards. But I recommend not being so hard on all street girls...though it hasn't happened recently, I have found a few really good girls on the street, but, for reasons beyond my comprehension, they're gone too.
My point...I guess my point is be glad you live in Phoenix, because, on the whole, Tucson is far less hobby-friendly.
I wonder why there aren't more quality private providers in Tucson, especially since not much LE risk (vs street hookers).
It would seem will all the college students and active alternative community etc there would be more.
Tucson even hosts the sexworkers art fair and sexwork convention. Was great reporting on - but few real current local sexworkers, just the stars from a far. I was amazed at how successful the sexwork conference was although some of it was due to all the great free publicity of the newspapers and even national TV talk shows attacking it. Bad publicty is better than none and drew huge crowds, so some had to be turned away at some events. Yes in TUCSON !!!
Looking forward to this years fair and conference in September
Best wishes
Dave in Phoenix
Finally met up with Michelle.Now that I know who she is I see her everywhere.Very thin with long light brown hair with blonde highlights.Baggy clothes.Will be 19 in MarchShe keeps very inconspicuous,often seen sitting at a bus stop.She doesn't stare down traffic like most SW.I saw her in the parking lot of Golden Pins bowling alley.I park nearby,she asks for a cigarete then admits that she's trying to make some money.Her electricity has been shut off and she needs to buy candles.I take her to the store to get candles then back to my place.$20 bj or $40 bj and fs.Very cute body,cute perky tits.Nice CBJ with ball massage.Nice trim pussy.She kept complaining about pain while fucking her though,saying her cervix had been pushed forward during the birth of her daughter.Overall though I highly recomend.She says she doesn't do crack but I suspect she's tweaking on something.
I saw Kiki/Crystal stumbling down Oracle arms flailing.Big gash on her forehead.I barely recognized her.
Originally posted by Borderguy
Finally met up with Michelle.Now that Will be 19 in March
I saw Kiki/Crystal stumbling down Oracle arms flailing.Big gash on her forehead.I barely recognized her.
I think out of all my SW experiences, Michelle is in the top 5. Nice attitude, nice looks, not all fucked up. She is no longer at the number she gave me. It would be real nice to be able to get a hold of her reliably. The age thing worries me. I wish there was some way to know for sure.
It's a shame about Kiki but you could kind of see it coming.
Picked up Chery on Stone near the Wildcat house. Mid 30's (?) dark brown hair, all right looking body, fairly cute face but kind of acne scarred. I see her out there frequently but never picked her up. Wanted $25 for bj. Then said she just wanted more than $20. I gave her $23. Not that great of a bj. I know this is subjective, but I don't like bj's where the girl acts like she's milking me like a cow. I like it when they take it kind of easy, at least at first. She had a good attitude though. She had this huge gash on her lower back. She said someone through her out of a moving vehicle. So many girls have told me that, I wonder if it's true.
Michelle is living in the Woodlawn Apts and I often see her in that general vicinity.She must have a drug habit if she can't pay basic bills.I have her number somewhere.
Another recent find,Trish.28 year old from Montana.Tallish,pretty face,non-druggy,bandana on head covering bald head.I ran into her on MM near the Monterray..Took her back to my place.$20 for BBBJ or $40 for BJ and FS.I told her I'd start with a BJ and decide if I wanted more. She takes her shirt off but leaves her pants and bra on,smallish tits but pretty nice body.She gives a nice unrushed BBBJ,very friendly attitude,very accomodating.She was doing such a good job I opted for the CFS.This is when I found out her covered bald head is due to chemo for uterine cancer.Her pussy is bald-chemo?-but healthy looking.But when I tried to fuck her but she kept wincing in pain.It was too painful to watch so
I just had her jerk me off.I would recommend her highly for BBBJ but would pass on intercourse.I got her number and may use it down the road.She says she hits the streets once or twice a day until she makes a certain amount.I dropped her off at her house she shares with her 5 year old kid.
I've seen alot of SW around at times,especially around dusk/early evening inthe MM/Oracle area but most are too scanky looking.I saw a worn out older blond in tie-dye all afternoon,a huge fat girl on MM,an emaciated brunette a latina with what looked like a nice figure getting picked up in front of Nevada Bobs,plus a few others.
SlimShady2K
02-28-03, 14:57
Originally posted by da_hunter
Picked up "Lisa" on Laguna and 14th. Late 20's early 30's lighted skinned black girl, almost looked more mexican than black. Hair pulled back, big bulky black jacket. She had 2 small scars on her left temple. I brought her to my house for $50 FS (she added $10 for the travel time). We get here, she goes into the bathroom, comes back out and tells me it's her period so she can't do FS. I didn't want a BJ and even if I did, I wouldn't have driven the whole way back to my house for it. (I don't like FS in the car, but don't mind BJ's) I said no thanks. She tells me how good she is at it and how good it will be. I said WTF and drop my pants. She takes 2 licks and say, "OH, what about the money?" I said "$20 good?" She says that she charges $30. I say I normally pay $20 and it's not what I wanted anyhow. She says,"There's girls out there that will have sex with you for $5.00, I ain't like that." I don't care, I didn't want a BJ She isn't looking that good now that she's got her jacket off, and her attitude is starting to bother me. So I said forget the whole thing. She say,"No way, I already started." I say, "Sorry, this isn't what I wanted and I'm not paying $30." She said,"Give me $20, and it will be so good you will give me $10 more afterward, you'll see." I said ok. I've made this arrangement with Taz before and when I found out that she wasn't lying about how good it is, I gave her more money. But this wasn't that good, in fact it sucked. Started out ok, then turned into a hj. Afterward, she says,"What do you think?". I tell her, "it wasn't that good, sorry, I'm not giving you any more money." I drive her back and I can tell she is a little pissed. I figure, I'll meet her halfway and tell her,"If I have a $5 bill in my wallet, I'll give it to you." Not good enough for her. She asks me to drive her to Jack in the Box on Grant. I pull in by 11th. She says to go between Circle K and Jack in the Box. I've had problems with girls not getting out of my car when they think they got something coming. But I figure, I can always drive away if some of her homeboys are there. I drive around and park. She says,"So you're not going to give me that then?" I said,"No, I never said I would." Then I look down, and she has a little gun in her right hand next to her knee. I can't say whether it was real or not, but it really didn't matter to me. I was getting kind of pissed and I tend to do stupid things when I am angry. I put it in reverse drive around and pull up in front of the doors of the Circle K. I tell her to get out. She says, "You better be afraid." I just look at her and tell her, "Out." She gets out. I drive away, but I'm pissed. I drive back. She standing in front of the Circle K talking on the phone. Then she gets off the phone and gets in a cab. I figure I better leave well enough alone and take off. Don't know why I made such a big deal about $10. I've paid a lot more than that to dancers for less. Maybe just the principle of the thing. I know a lot of people might say I should've just given her the money, but fuck that. Girls have tried to take me more than once and sometimes I let it slide and sometimes I dont. I'm in the situation, so I make the decision.
Personally if I was you and had a cell phone on me, I would have called the cops, just mention she has a gun on her and has been flashing it. No fuck or suck is worth getting shot up or stabbed.
I was driving home last night and heard a commercial on the radio for one of the casinos now having blackjack. It got me thinking about the hobby scene in Tucson, and wondering if anyone has ever found any action at any of the local casinos?
I have never really gone out there looking, but would be curious if the the effort would be rewarding.
I was driving through South Tucson today (not for the hobby) and off of 6th on 37th street I saw a car that was pulled over by a white unmarked late model Ford Taurus. The lights were concealed well, you wouldn't know this was a cop car until it was too late.
I was in South Tucson once about three years ago, and I brought a girl into my car. She told me to park behind this motel which is behind the Chevron. Well, she pulled the old cash n dash scheme on me, but right as I was about to leave three cops cars came up and harassed me. They told me that the person working at Chevron called the cops on me. Usually cops are liars, but I think he was telling the truth in this case, because he knew that I got gas at that Chevron, and that's where the girl got in my car.
The cop told me that having a girl in my car that I picked up in south tucson is an arrestable offense. Again, cops usually lie, but I think he was being honest here. He said the only reason that I wasn't being arrested is because the girl wasn't there, so they didn't really have anything on me.
On my birthday back in 99, i was pulled over and given a ticket for doing 34 in a 30 zone. seriously...the cop saw it was my birthday, but still chose to write it up. then he gave me some asinine anti-prostitution lecture, despite the fact that I had not picked up a girl that night, nor was I there for that purpose...I was just on my way home. When I fought the ticket, the cop didn't show up, and the judge was furious. he yelled at the prosecutor about making sure the officers meet their hearing dates. then he points at me and says to the prosecutor "I really wanted to do something with this man, but now I can't". That's another thing...how many municipalities have you heard of that have a separate prosecutor for a simple traffic ticket hearing?
Remember the Soleng center? Notice how that mysteriously caught fire a short time after this asinine weed and seed program began? How about that nice antique house that was on the SW corner of 6th and 36th? that suddenly caught fire also, and was rezoned as commercial after the debris had cleared. how about food city? why would a super market chain open a store in a city with a 2% tax on food when they could have opened one two blocks away where there was no tax on food? how about 4th avenue in South Tucson? was it necessary to change that from a realitively safe street to one that invited head on collisions with the asinine paint scheme?
I'm making a point, and offering you guys a warning. Many of the events that have happened in south tucson since this stupid weed and seed program started...well, they don't pass the smell test. This tells me that the south tucson government is very corrupt, and is willing to bend, and even break, the law in order to achieve the goals laid out with this stupid program of theirs, even if it means violating the rights of citizens. Yeah, a good lawyer could probably get you out of whatever you got caught doing over there, but I don't have that kind of money. Because I don't have the cash to hire a good lawyer if I'm arrested in south tucson, I now consider that shitty town off-limits for the hobby, and unless you can afford competent representation, I suggest you do the same.
Desert Rat
03-01-03, 16:37
Pugilist,
There are many reasons to avoid South Tucson, but corruption is a big one. The recently elected Congressman Raul Grijalva and his political machine virtually run South Tucson. Have you ever noticed it takes years to complete a simple road project? Or that they tore the shit out of S 4th Avenue to put in curves?
The area where Food City is now used to be within the boundaries of the City of Tucson. Tucson donated the land to South Tucson for the sole purpose of building the Food City and collecting taxes. This is the site of the old county hospital.
BTW, I appreciate your comments about Dave in Phoenix. You have a much cooler head than I do when it comes to him. This quote says it all, "That is why I suggest to providers they screen very carefully." Providers screen and johns take a fall if she gets busted or pissed off. NEVER give a provider more than your first name, if you do, you put yourself in jeopardy.
SlimShady2K
03-01-03, 21:40
South Tucson is a one square mile waste of space, in my opinion. It should be annexed by the city of Tucson. Whatever bad things people say about TPD, South Tucson PD is 100 times worse.
I have noticed TPD and STPD pull people over within South Tucson, I don't know if TPD really does that much in there or not. I was unfortunate enough to get pulled over by STPD once back in 1998, I got off because it was high school graduation night in the Tucson area. They came right out and told me "You're either in here looking for pussy or crack"...can you believe that?
I have not completely given up on South Tucson, although I rarely see any hookers in there anymore. Last year around this time was the last time I picked up any chicks there. One happened to be a freebie, she was either really high or really drunk, but I lucked out, and she was a pretty good fuck. If I ever saw her again I would try to pick her up.
As far as government fuck ups there, I agree that the construction on the roads takes way too long (look at 10th Ave within the city limits).
Mystic Pimp
03-01-03, 22:27
Anyone check out any "end of the month/1st of the month" activity, if there was any?
Originally posted by NotoriousPoppa
Anyone check out any "end of the month/1st of the month" activity, if there was any?
I don't know whether it was because it was the end of the month or because I wasn't looking for anything, but yesterday driving home from work I saw Rain (got her new number), Michelle (got her new number), Cheryl, and that 1 girl who's been working the Oracle/MM area in a tye-died shirt. It's pretty bad when you know most of the SW's by name.
Originally posted by desertguy
Is this the same Michelle that was supposed to move to Branson
to live with her grandmother? I havent seen her around lately on the streets...Be nice if you would share her phone number...If you arent comfortable with that I understand...
Yes, it is the same Michelle. And to be honest, I don't feel really comfortable about sharing numbers of SW unless I ask them first and even then, I'm not so sure. If they are in the TW, I don't have a problem, but I don't think all the SW's give out their number to everyone they meet and I would hate to fuck-up a good thing. Also, about back-channeling, I may be paranoid, but I would say it's safer to assume that LE monitors this board. Whether or not they can get closer to you by knowing your email address and whether or not providing phone number's of SW's would leave you open to some sort of pandering charge or something, are all questions whose answers I don't have. I don't know why I said I got these girls' numbers, I'll try to refrain from it in the future.
kind of selfish of you i have to say. you know very well that most of us have not been as fourtunate as you have when it comes to trolling for SW, the least you could do is share the wealth a little. I mean, some of us give you good info about what goes on out of the TW, right? cooperation is a two way street.
Mystic Pimp
03-03-03, 21:48
Don't really want to see people bickering in here, but as far as giving out information, only so much will do a person good. Posting a SW's phone # is no good if half the time the # is disconnected, or worse, someone other than the person you're trying to reach is the one answering the phone. If the # is already available publicly (ie the Tucson Weekly), then the # should be posted or shared.
In general, a lot of the private info that may be shared may not even be useful longer than a few days (based on experience). A decent physical description and a general location seems to be more useful (for me personally) than anything else when it comes to SG's.
Da_hunter
I don't think you should worried about LE monitoring the board. The information such as giving out a phone number is not pandering nor does it constitute any other violation that the LE can go after. It may put the SW in a spot if she gets a call from an LE and doesn't know the right questions or response to give out, but the SW should be aware of that, in much the same as meeting and talking to vice on the street. To her, it is just another meeting, whether it is on the street or throught a phone call.
Giving out a phone number, in my opinion, should be strictly with the consent/permission of the SW, regardless of how short a time the number may remain valid. Another way to look at it is that if the SW agrees to have her number shared, you would be helping her out by doing so, but I would limit that to backchanneling. Afterall, she still has to make a living and it is not likely she makes enough money from one single client to support herself.
But, at the same time, I can understand where you're coming from as well.
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SlimShady2K
03-05-03, 15:25
I saw a chick walking on Mon night on 4th Ave at around 24th St. Didn't get the opportunity to go approach her.
I've noticed TPD has some marked Dodge Intrepid police cruisers (some with lights on top, some without) as well as some unmarked Intrepids, pretty much within the last 24 hours. Keep a lookout.
SlimShady2K
slim2kshady2000 at yahoo dot com
I am looking for any information anyone might have about Alaya Downs. I found her website and I think she looks pretty good, but haven't been able to contact her by any of the means she has listed.
Is she still out there? Any one have any recent experience with her?
I am also wanting to get together with Missy at some point, as I like the bigger busy blonde types, and was wondering if anyone had any recent experience there. Seems that most of the messages here are somewhat old.
Originally posted by desertguy
I was wasting some expensive gas tonight cruising for nothing.
I was on craycroft--nothing. Went down to MM/Romero--Nothing.
Bummer.
I have a "friend" who saw "chile", cute hispanic, 29th st east of Alvernon, Tues bout midnight. $40, tight, vocal ps actress.
MM area is so spotty, seems like they are quite a few in the area and then nothing for some time. Bad luck sucks. Surely has to do with the cop activity. Many afts they are everywhere, and then nothing that night. If they have cash they dont work. I wonder if the drug supply has anything to do with it. Ya can never pin down when to cruise no matter how much you ask them, or observe the area. Outside of the last week of the month has anyone noticed a consistency?
Originally posted by scwoodus
I am looking for any information anyone might have about Alaya Downs.
I like the bigger busy blonde types
Someone posted that "Mandy" another escort said Alaya was unstable. I don't know if I would trust one escort's opinion of another, but Alaya's webpages do appear a little strange. She has a lot of them out there under different names. Some for her escorting and some for her "Metaphysical" work. Even if she is "unstable", it may not necessarily be a bad thing for our intents and purposes. I've called and left messages, but haven't heard anything back from her.
I don't know if by "Big" you mean BBW, but if you don't, there is a girl in the TW, I think it says something like "Statuesque blonde" the number is something like 906-7660. Sorry, I don't have a TW and can't recall exactly what the number is but this isn't Sydney who also has an ad in the TW and who I've talked to, but not seen yet. This is Zia that used to work for Cashmere. Tall, busty, athletic blonde. She's mid/late thirties and (with me at least) had a real good attitude. I've probably seen her over 10 times. If I had to pick one escort out of the TW to use exclusively, she would probably be it. I haven't seen her since she left Cashmere's though.
I finally got to see Divina "Pure Bliss" 230-2800 (I think) out of the TW. She does hr for $150, 1/2 hr for $100. Because of the mix up we experienced during my last attempt to see her (described on 2-21), she would only agree to an hour. Apparently she was "Spanish Angel" a while ago at Angels. I never saw her there but this is what I've been told. She was just a little late. Fairly attractive, I would assume older than the 28 she claims. Large breasts, a bit heavier than I prefer. On the phone, I thought I had I verified that the $150 was "all inclusive" but got extra $ just in case. She advertises as "erotic massage" or something like that. When she arrived there was a little talk of massage, but I wasn't really into that and in fact massaged her (which is something I am into). At some point, I learned that the Full in FS would be an additional $150. I didn't get that much extra out, and wouldn't have paid it anyhow. I massaged her ALL over and by all vocal and physical indications, she was pretty into it as well. By what I was observing, I got the impression that proceeding onward was not necessarily against her wishes. (it may have been my ego talking) So I did and we did and afterward she said, "you need to give me more than the $150." Not a prob, I had out another $50 which was enough for her. So $200 for what may not be a GFE by most definitions but what I would consider a GFE based on past experiences with GF's and wives (She had to be put in the mood) Will I see her again? It took a long time to finally hook up with her and I tend to do this on the spur of the moment which makes it even harder to get with her. Apparently she has a lot of regulars and only saw me because of my persistence. I would pay $200 for some girls but (I hope she doesn't read this) not for her. Maybe I'll try a 1/2 hr. It definitely was a fairly good experience.
BTW, Cashmere's "Michelle" I posted about on 2-18 now dances at Curves. Can't remember her stage name though.
Originally posted by da_hunter
I don't know if by "Big" you mean BBW, but if you don't, there is a girl in the TW, I think it says something like "Statuesque blonde"Thanks for the reply. I tend to prefer women with fairly large tits, and not skinny as a rail. I don't think I would go as far as BBW, but I really do like the picture of Missy on EROS.
I am also interested in Alaya Downs, based only on her pictures, but she doesn't seem interested in getting back with me. Oh well, there are others out there.
wlkingdude
03-06-03, 20:08
da_hunter,
I haven't posted before but have been on this site for a while and have always found your posts to be both informative and entertaining. Anyhow I was wondering if you could elaborate some more about Zia. Sounds like she has an amazing body how about face? Do you have any pricing information? Would you say she is GFE material?
Thanks
Wlkingdude
WorldTraveller
03-07-03, 20:51
scwoodus,
I can recommend missy, others have had bad experiences with her, I was satisfied. She is very personable and I enjoyed myself.
SlimShady2K
03-07-03, 23:59
You guys might want to check this article out if you're picking up a lot of SG's...
http://www.azstarnet.com/star/fri/30307syphilispike2f2frjs-jmd.html
If I do go out trolling I'll make sure to be stack full of rubbers. I'm thinking about checking out some escorts, but a lot of you have had bad experiences w/ the ones in Tucson, so I procrastinate... anyone have any good suggestions let me know.
SlimShady2K
slim2kshady2000 at yahoo dot com
Originally posted by wlkingdude
da_hunter,
Anyhow I was wondering if you could elaborate some more about Zia.
Wlkingdude
When she worked for Cashmere, it was $110 1/2 hr and I think $150 an hr. The rate was higher for incall. I don't know if she still charges the same now that she is on her own. I don't know if I would say "amazing body" if you were comparing her to a 20 year old, but for mid/late 30's she looks damn good. Definitely a head turner especially because of the way she dresses. Short shorts or slit dresses which show off her long, strong legs. And she wears a lot of nice lingerie underneath, alot of which she makes herself. Her skin is just a little loose. As far as her face, she says that she considers herself sexy, not beautiful. I don't know if I agree. It isn't a young face but it isn't an ugly face either. I read another review which said it was "interesting". Maybe thats a good way to describe it. Compared to a lot of other escorts in the TW, I would say she is definitely top-shelf. GFE? I think people define this differently. If you mean, will she make out and do pretty much anything you want, the answer is no. She doesn't like to kiss and I think the back-door is shut (not my cup of tea anyway). But, her demeanor is such that she is easy to talk to and you can get the feeling that she is really enjoying herself. I think she gets into some freaky stuff that doesn't suit me. Spanking and things like that. In fact, in her apt. she has hooks on the ceiling for hanging people or a swing. Of course, as with any girl, YMMV.
The same goes for Missy. Apparently she nickel and dimed someone on here, but the one time I saw her, even though I almost walked out when I saw her and expected FS and didn't get it, I left satisfied. It might have been more about the personal interaction between us. She gave me a good massage (with a "release" at the end), we had a good conversation, and I was in a really good mood for the rest of the day. I think different people get different things out of this hobby. I saw one of Cashmere's girls and didn't find her to be that great of an experience. When I talked to Cashmere later, she told me that the girl is one of her best, as far as repeat customers were concerned (as was Zia). She said that the girl would do a lot of wild things that the guys weren't experiencing elsewhere. I think I'm pretty tame with what I want from these girls so looks and personality are important to me whereas, I really couldn't care whether or not I could fuck her in the ass with a wine bottle.
TucsonChief
03-11-03, 23:21
whos cashmere?
i called an escort service and it was terrible. i have no idea which one it was. i'm never calling one again, unless i hear it here first.
Murphy85737
03-12-03, 06:28
Originally posted by tucsonchief
whos cashmere?
i called an escort service and it was terrible. i have no idea which one it was. i'm never calling one again, unless i hear it here first.
We're are certainly raising the bar on this board.
Originally posted by tucsonchief
whos cashmere?
i called an escort service and it was terrible. i have no idea which one it was. i'm never calling one again, unless i hear it here first.
Cashmere is an Escort service out of the Tucson Weekly. I think the number is 617 9299. I should mention that over the weekend, I called some of the escorts in the yellow pages. The same girl answered almost every number and when she realized it was me that kept calling, she said that the service she worked for owned ALL the numbers. I don't know if that was true but they did own a lot of them. This service also advertises in the TW and accepts Credit cards. I've only heard bad things about them but have never tried them myself. Some of the complaints I have heard are that they will ask what type of girl you are looking for, promise a girl that is just what you wanted but when the girl shows up she is nothing like what you specified. Also, the girls will get the money upfront to "pay her driver", then when the driver (and your money) are gone, she'll explain to you that you paid for her company and nothing else. There were 2 Cashmere's in the yellow pages niether of whom are the Cashmere I am talking about. Beware of cheap imitations. Just kidding, I can only speak of the Cashmere I mentioned above.
Speaking of whom, she has a new girl (actually a girl who used to work for her and is back) called "Lilac". Described as a late 20's attractive, busty Latina. It was $160/hr Incall. She looked late 20's but after talking to her for awhile I found out she was 35. Doesn't really matter to me how old she is but rather what she looks like. She was a lot bigger than I prefer and I almost cancelled. But I went on and it was a pretty good time. She was a sweet girl. and we did everything I wanted to do. I don't think I will see her again though. Just not my type.
I spoke to Benny from bootyball dot com. He is another service that seems pretty much on the level (for the most part). He has 3 new girls. Two of them are on his website. The one I wanted to see "Deanna" was out of town, so I may try again later.
Originally posted by Pugilist
One thing is certain though...if Josephine was still around, I wouldn't be trying these other providers. Damn I miss her
Anyone else know?
I only talked to Josephine over the phone, but when I called Petite and sexy Diane out of the TW, I knew I heard her voice before. I asked her if she had any other ads in the TW and she said she is also Mistress Madeline. She lives up in the N/E. Only works during the day (up to 6pm) only full hr for $180. She had a nice place, a nice attitude. Was really easy to talk to and was eager to please, but she wasn't really my type. Really slender (skinny) and a lot older than I prefer. It wasn't a bad experience, but I don't think I will be returning. I did ask her if she went by another name in the past and she said, "Yes, Josephine."
Originally posted by da_hunter
I only talked to Josephine over the phone, but when I called Petite and sexy Diane out of the TW, I knew I heard her voice before. I asked her if she had any other ads in the TW and she said she is also Mistress Madeline. She lives up in the N/E. Only works during the day (up to 6pm) only full hr for $180. She had a nice place, a nice attitude. Was really easy to talk to and was eager to please, but she wasn't really my type. Really slender (skinny) and a lot older than I prefer. It wasn't a bad experience, but I don't think I will be returning. I did ask her if she went by another name in the past and she said, "Yes, Josephine."
Ho boy! looks like I'm making a call tomorrow...but I wonder what the reasoning is behind the name change...Everything you describe sounds like her, except the part about you not returning. If it was the Josephine I remember, I couldn't imagine anyone not wanting to return to her.
Mystic Pimp
03-14-03, 15:55
Interesting articles regarding a tribal leader in the Tucson area and a prostitution bust, in today's Star and Citizen
http://www.azstarnet.com/star/fri/30314MANUEL.html
http://www.tucsoncitizen.com/local/3_14_03manuel.html
If they have internet on the reservation, I'm sure a "respectable" leader like this guy could have stayed out of the news.
(sarcasm intended)
I checked out Curves and TD's West on Friday. They wer of course packed. Curves had a nicer selection of women I think. Their Champagne room has a $20.00 cover
Regular dances are 5 VIP I am not sure.
It was a fun atmosphere. The dancer "Heather Lee" has a great attitude and gives a very erotic, energetic dance!
As I left there was a skinny red haired SW on Miracle mile. I did not stop
Buster Cherry
03-15-03, 14:46
Notorious, who ever said our leaders and politicians were "respectable?"
TD's east for lunch today....a bit dead. No one working the floor regularly. Saw my favorite, Fawn. If you like larger women she is perfect! Anyone have a report on the Bunny Ranch? I heard it had a 12buck cover and the dances were 20! Anyone???
Dave
Mystic Pimp
03-15-03, 17:49
Originally posted by buster cherry
Notorious, who ever said our leaders and politicians were "respectable?"
I suppose that's true...but as far as the reservations go, I don't usually hear about people there unless it has to do with illegals or casinos.
As far as Edward Manuel, chairman for the Tohono O'odham Nation, it looks like he got off, according to today's stories in the Star and Citizen (3/15):
http://www.tucsoncitizen.com/local/3_15_03manuel.html
http://www.azstarnet.com/star/sat/30315MANUEL.html
What is interesting in this story is not so much a political leader getting caught in a sting, but what he "allegedly" said to the undercover officer that is grounds for an arrest.
Desert Rat
03-16-03, 15:15
da_hunter,
Thank you very much for the report on Josephine. I did not know that she had changed her name to Diane, but I do now thanks to you. Sorry she wasn't your cup of tea. She is definitely my type. I realize she is older than most escorts. However, her body is awesome and she does anal (one of my personal favorites) without blinking an eye. I appreciate your posting this information.
Originally posted by Desert Rat
da_hunter,
Thank you very much for the report on Josephine. I did not know that she had changed her name to Diane, but I do now thanks to you. Sorry she wasn't your cup of tea. She is definitely my type. I realize she is older than most escorts. However, her body is awesome and she does anal (one of my personal favorites) without blinking an eye. I appreciate your posting this information.
I called her and asked her, and yup, it's her. She said she remembered me, dunno how true that is, but if she'll see me, I'm going over there tomorrow!
She also told me she's 38. It is disappointing that she feels the need to lie like that. She is definately NOT 38, I'm guessing somewhere around 50, but what she needs to realize is when you preform like she does, you don't need to be young!
SlimShady2K
03-18-03, 22:06
Originally posted by azdave
I checked out Curves and TD's West on Friday. They wer of course packed. Curves had a nicer selection of women I think. Their Champagne room has a $20.00 cover
Regular dances are 5 VIP I am not sure.
It was a fun atmosphere. The dancer "Heather Lee" has a great attitude and gives a very erotic, energetic dance!
As I left there was a skinny red haired SW on Miracle mile. I did not stop
Curves (and Raiders Reef) have $5 table dances, $10 VIP dances, and $15 "Champagne Room" dances. The Candy Store has $5 table dances, $10 VIP room dances. Cheapest topless bar rates in Tucson, the three I mentioned.
Desert Rat
03-19-03, 00:00
Pugilist wrote:
"(Josephine) also told me she's 38. It is disappointing that she feels the need to lie like that. She is definately NOT 38, I'm guessing somewhere around 50, but what she needs to realize is when you preform like she does, you don't need to be young!"
I agree with you my friend. She is definitely pushing 50 years old, but she still has a body made for sin! Her face does show her age. I think she should just tell people her height and weight and that she is in her 40's.
I will be paying her a call very soon to play with her wonderful ass!
Originally posted by Desert Rat
Pugilist wrote:
"(Josephine) also told me she's 38. It is disappointing that she feels the need to lie like that. She is definately NOT 38, I'm guessing somewhere around 50, but what she needs to realize is when you preform like she does, you don't need to be young!"
I agree with you my friend. She is definitely pushing 50 years old, but she still has a body made for sin! Her face does show her age. I think she should just tell people her height and weight and that she is in her 40's.
I will be paying her a call very soon to play with her wonderful ass!
I just got back from seeing her a couple hours ago...I could tell you what happened, but it's more of same...she is still awesome! This time she engaged in 69 with me. Very cool...I've never went down on a privider, but Josephine is clean and careful, so I'm not worried. I really enjoyed it. Yum Yum Yum :)
Called Angels@bootyball.com (Benny) out of the TW. Apparently he has a girl just for answering the phones now and I was told she was his ex. I was told he has 5 girls but only 2 were available. "Chloe" a mexican/asian and (If I remember right) "Natalie" a tall blonde. Chloe was at a hotel near Drachman and Stone. I asked if I could just swing by and check her out and was told it would be better to make an appt and if I didn't like what I see, I could take off. The woman then said she would have the blonde go over also and I should just tell Chloe that that is who I was waiting for. I don't know whether they just assumed I wouldn't want to see Chloe or what but, I like a selection so I said sure. Chloe didn't look too bad, slender mid-20's, nice to talk to. I waited for about 1/2 hr for the blonde and when she showed up, Chloe left. The blonde had a very attractive face, large chest, but the body didn't slender out below. It just kept getting bigger. Not my type. She had a real good attitude and when I told her she wasn't my type she didn't take it personally, but said she had to call to find out what to do because she just started working for Benny. She got off the phone with the woman and said, "She said you need to give me something because she accurately described me on the phone." I don't have a problem with that when that is agreed upon upfront, and I always ask because a verbal description doesn't really tell you shit. I told her that Benny has told me more than once that there is no cancellation fee. She called him and confirmed this. Then when I was leaving she asked what it was I didn't like about her. Hmmm. I just said I prefer someone a little more toned. She said she knew a tall fit blonde, a little older but real good looking. I think she used the word "statuesque" because I kind of knew she was talking about Zia. She was and I told her that I already knew Zia. Then she told me she was Zia daughter. Wow. Zia and I talked about her daughter and I knew she worked for one of the "Sinbad" companies. I've talked about them before, The one that takes credit cards and has about 12 different names. I told her I was surprised she was working for Benny because his is a "Full-service" service. She said she only does "Erotic massage' and not full service. Good thing I cancelled. That would've been another big problem with me. I started leaving and, because of who she was and her good attitude, went back and gave her a $20. Didn't want her talking bad about me to her mother.
There was another normally FS service who sent me to a girl who wasn't fs. Cashmere sent me to Selma who I wrote about on 2-21. Not FS, and when I asked Cashmere about it over the weekend she said that Selma thought I was LE. Hard to say though. I've talked to other girls who say they've been told they would not have to be FS only to find out that's what was expected and that the (whatever you want to call it) manager, pimp, madam, assumed they would "fall in line" with the expectations. Don't know if that's what happened in this case though. Cashmere did hook me up that night. Sent me to "Crystal" early/mid twenties, blonde, slender, attractive incall near River and First. Real good attitude and a real good time. I really like it when it seems the girl has as good of a time as me.
I'm looking forward to seeing "Deanna" from Bootyball. com. I asked Benny about her before and was told she didn't work for him anymore. Apparently she is back and she looks like my type. Maybe this weekend.
Haven't seen "Michelle" out there in quite a while and she was someone who seemed to always be out there. Maybe she finally moved to MO. Boo hoo.
Did a little cruisin last night and picked up Cheryl along MM. Blond with some nice (fake) 34c's and decent bod. She's pretty rough in the face, but has a great attitude and super BJ skills. Ended up with FS for $40 and she offered anal if I had some lube. All in all a good time.
She said she lives in a trailer park along Flowing Wells (I forget which one) and usually hangs out along MM Fri and Sat night in the wee hours to catch the early morning crowd.
It would be a nice start to the day.
El_Otro_Hijo
03-20-03, 01:55
Hello all,
Saw "Michelle" today and got a bj from her, she hangs out over on Ft. Lowel/Alvernon area and said her plans to go to Missouri did not go thru.
As I was cruising around the Grant/Oracle area I saw a blue Chevrolet or Dodge 4 door seden unmarked police car. It had pulled someone over and the lights are not visible until it is right on you, it had arizona license plates #286-KKT.
Be safe out there.
Originally posted by EL_OTRO_HIJO
Hello all,
Saw "Michelle" today and got a bj from her, she hangs out over on Ft. Lowel/Alvernon area and said her plans to go to Missouri did not go thru.
As I was cruising around the Grant/Oracle area I saw a blue Chevrolet or Dodge 4 door seden unmarked police car. It had pulled someone over and the lights are not visible until it is right on you, it had arizona license plates #286-KKT.
Be safe out there.
I'm guessing the car was a Dodge. What color was this car, do you remember?
Desert Rat
03-20-03, 21:25
I saw the same car at Speedway and Wilmot. It looks like a deep dark blue from a distance. You would not know it was a police car in a million years. Watch your ass!
TucsonChief
03-21-03, 05:56
angels heaven has by far the hottest women here in tucson. its a shame, its almost criminal, that there isnt another massage parlor in town.
i haven't heard of anythign beyond the rub-and-tug going on at angels. i'm not one for pickin up off the street , someone needs to open a good massage parlor in this town they'll make a killing.
SlimShady2K
03-22-03, 19:28
To you guys that have seen "Michelle"...I was wondering if she fits this description: brown shoulder length hair, blue eyes, gap in her front teeth, likes to wear "hoochie" outfits...if so, I think I may know her from back in the day. This girl I know has a kid, and is barely legal, probably still looks like jailbait, and is into white and hispanic men. When she's chillin somewhere she likes to wear a wife beater over her bra and boxers. She is real skinny and petite.
My memory is light brown,maybe blondish highlights hair longer than shoulder length,maybe mid-back.She said she has a kid.Skinny yes.She has a tattoo on one of her tits,a name beginning with B.I would pick her up again in a heartbeat.
SlimShady2K
03-23-03, 17:30
Originally posted by Borderguy
My memory is light brown,maybe blondish highlights hair longer than shoulder length,maybe mid-back.She said she has a kid.Skinny yes.She has a tattoo on one of her tits,a name beginning with B.I would pick her up again in a heartbeat.
yeah the girl I know does have highlights...sorry I forgot to mention that
So what is Michelles latest haunt? I looked for her around Prince/MM but I see she is at Ft Lowell and Alvernon now?
I look forward to picking her up sometime soon.
SlimShady2K
03-27-03, 21:53
Hey, is no one getting any action here in the last week?
TucsonChief
03-27-03, 22:38
the forums been down.
we know it aint because no ones getting action!
Saw Michelle out on Miracle Mile , Wens night 11-1.
Saw Shay the other night. She gives a damn fine BBBJ, and those massive titties sure are fun to play with. All I had time and money for was a blow job in the car, but while we were chatting, she revealed that she'd do anal for $100 if I got her drunk too. Pretty tempting. Think I'll have to tap that ass at some point.
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