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Uki Eater's postings in this thread (#493 #498) should be required reading for any monger thinking about visting the hostess bars (and not just the Korean ones). Uki--thanks much for sharing with us.
I admit, I almost did fall for a BG. I was her very first customer when she started at Niagras or when it was New Office back then. She was the shy type, not really experienced in the bar scene yet. She was shy to even ask for a drink. Other BGs mentioned to us that we make a nice couple. Our age difference was 2 years apart. Anyways, I liked this girl that I felt shame to grab her or get physical. I didn't want her to know that I'm like the rest of the guys out there. Plus, we had a good conversation and I liked her company. We exchanged numbers. She would give me a call on the weekends just to ask what I'm up to. I would be outside cleaning my car on a Sunday and she would just call me out of the blue. But, I dunno...I know I liked her but, I never take it to the point where I would ask her out to go and do something. In the back of my head, I felt that she probably calling other customers to and asking them the same question. There were more calls from her and some of them she left a voice message wishing me a Happy Thanksgiving, Merry Xmas etc.
If I met up with her, I probably might have slept with her and I'm sure most mongers on here would have boinked her way before me. But, my problem was that I liked her and did not view her as a BG that I just wanted to oof. My friends told me to just call her, ask her out for dinner and do things with her. She probably bored during the weekends or before she starts work. If I did take her out, I know already I will just like her more and more and if I know she likes me to, man I would have fallen for her big time.
However though, I told myself:
"Why am I liking this BG? I know she's cute and I like her company when I visit her at the bar but, where would this thing lead to? It's not like I'm financially rich to where I can take care of her etc. She sees other customers at the bar and I know other customers would call her"
I kept reminding myself this every time I thought about taking her out or when I sit with her at the booth. Anyways, one day she called me when I left work and I was driving in my car. She asked me what I was up to and told her I just left work. I said to her: "Hey, maybe we can go out to dinner" Then she said: "Sure". But, I did not follow through with it though. The reason is because I know I'm gonna fall for this girl because my mindset was that I liked her more than just a BG who I want to get P4P.
I decided to not see her already at the bar. My friend then said to me he seen her working at another bar. I went with him one night just to check out that place. She wasn't working though that night. At this time, I have not seen her face in several years. Later on, my other friend was hanging out at that bar and I decided to join them. We all was sitting at a booth and they had girls sitting with them to. Mama at that bar decided to bring a girl to me. But, I never like anyone sit by me plus, never have room to sit anyways. So, she grabbed a girl and had her sit on my lap. Not knowing who she is, she later turned her head and we looked at each other. Hehehe damn, it was the girl whom I been seeing at Niagra/New Office years ago. She looked at me and mentioned my name. She still has not forgotten me. I asked her: "I'm shocked you have not forgotten my name" She said: "Of course not, you're my very first customer whom I sat with"
My friend called me on my cell and I started talking to him outside. She stepped away and catered to other customers. I was just sitting outside talking on the cell about her etc. Then, I told her I had to go because I had to work the next morning. My friend who I spoke to and who saw her working at the bar would go there after work. He then later told me she got a boob job and was dressing more sexy. I refused to believe him and that she not the type who would do that. But, he said it is her. So, I decided to go there with my other friend to watch the UH Football game there. Later in the evening, as I was about to walk out of the bar. This girl walked in and just tapped me on my arm to say Hi. I looked at her and it was her. She was completely different. The way she dressed was different and she did get a boob job as well. Looks like the bar scene eventually molded her to be like the other girls.
I often wonder though where would it have led to if I dated her. Maybe it was best that I didn't. Who knows, I may have gotten burned by her. Hehe the wussy mentality was in me my goodness. My friend who does go to KB alot brought up a point to me and said:
"You know Uki, if you're going to buy drinks for her, you might as well make a move on her and grab her. It's a bar man, you might as well make the most of it. You're gonna buy her .20, .20, drinks you should get something out of it. What if she like? If you sit there all shy, it implies to the girl that you're not comfortable and it makes the girl uncomfortable as well. He brought up a point. When a girl sits by me and I be shy with them, the girl dunno what to do. It's like she thinking that maybe I don't like her company or not interested.
So, lesson learned. No be shy when a chick sit by you. I know some guys feel it maybe disrespectful or they just shy to put the hand around her etc but, like my friend said: "It's a hostess bar man, of course there's going to be some physical contact. If not you, I'm sure someone else will try on her"
Resist man resist! If a BG comes to you asking for a drink/company and you really don't feel like it, say: "No, nope, nada, not right now" Nowadays, if my mind says don't buy drinkie drinkie at a hostess bar, I stand by it. To help resist the temptation, I only come with enough money to buy myself and my friend drink and sing karaoke. Das it.My God!
I suppose I crossed the void-I married a bar girl. Actually two.
And. Well. Yep. Had problems-BIG problems.
Think will spend rest of my life recovering both mentally and financially.
Because. Their logic is all fouled up. And the husband is like number ten on their priority list.
Yea I beleive the business gets to them and all of them turn out that way.
I've also noticed re: remembering the guy's name, that they're VERY good with names and faces, even years later - the guy's name, which bar they met in, the year, sometimes they ask if I still work at that same job. One girl/lady at Evergreen remembered me from 1990. And these are girls I didn't really sit with, just casually talked with at the bar.
I agree 100% with all these honest mongers poating their lesson's learned on here. Ihave bee seeing a KGB milf for the past year and a half (yes sex at her place) and falling for them is only going to have you only feeling like kicking your own butt when you spend big amounts of kala on them. I am determine not to call, visit this milf going forward. The last straw was when she recently asked me for $2,500.00 to cover her bills because business is slow. I don't want to be her sugar daddy as I use to spend weekly a fair amount when I use to visit her about twice a week. I often feel that she treats her other customers better than me because she says I should understand because our situation is different. I wised up and don't even want to use her since she does not appeal to me any more through her actions and expectations. She can have her other customers then she might appreciate but I doubt it. Lessons learned for me, sticking to MP's and MT's. Jgirls from Japan are also loyal and not too money hungry as far as the ones I met recently in legitimate places. Thank you senior memebers for your reports and insight. Made me see the light.
I've also noticed re: remembering the guy's name, that they're VERY good with names and faces, even years later - the guy's name, which bar they met in, the year, sometimes they ask if I still work at that same job. One girl/lady at Evergreen remembered me from 1990. And these are girls I didn't really sit with, just casually talked with at the bar.Remembering someone's name is good business, and recalling any other details is bonus points. With that being said, they remember because they are doing business.
Keep that in mind.
Who would marry her?
I know I would!
We should begin to name the KBGs fkd by yours trulies throughout the years; bet we'd have some "all in the family" cases here. Regardless of the anecdotes contributed here (thanks, BTW), still get these starry-eyed, brain damaged, and blind dumdasses who carry on the traditions of past bargoers.
It's a new era and KBGs are passé. Kill the snake; no buy nekohanas; boycott the KBGs 100% on FFridays; without us they're nothing.
Remembering someone's name is good business, and recalling any other details is bonus points. With that being said, they remember because they are doing business.
Keep that in mind.Obviously so, but to tell you the truth I can't remember the names of a lot of girls, try as I might. Over time and with accumulation, I simply forget, no offense to them personally.
They don't whip out a notebook, so my point was only that a lot of them have very good memories.
Brother was I so happy when I got divorced! I have a poster in my bedroom wall, "why buy the cow. " you know.
I agree that the logic they have about things is all in their favor. They are hores who specialize in fuking your mind and blowing your mind. Pussy is like drugs and once they get you addicted to theirs its hard to kick it. But once you come to your senses you realize, oh shit! And run like hell!
Hands down, KBG's have the best bodies and the worst attitude, they are lower than whale shit.
Japanese chicks from Japan are the most horney. They have to work on their looks and oooops, no, I don't want them to be KBG's.
Filipinos are kinda on the wilder side but they are more low key and when you least expect it they fuk you in the ass.
Viet chicks are just plain slutty. They want money to fuk.
Haoles are biaaaaaaatches! They turn into cows after marriage.
But one common factor in women. M O and E Y!
Rico Suave808
07-26-10, 05:51
I have been reviewing all the posts on this thread trying to get a handle on these Korean girls. I don't do Korean bars any more cause I get the same stuff everyone else does. Pay them $ an hour to hear them talk about themselves or some other subject I not interested in All the trying to make me feel that I am some one special to them until I run out of money.
I have always used my charm with all the professional girls and it has always worked well for me, It was especially rewarding in Brazil where I made quire a few visits over a 5-year period. Because of the macho Latin attitude, the girls get beaten up all the time by their boyfriends/husbands so they loved having someone treat them with respect and kindness. I always got more than I gave.
With these Korean girls, its all about the money and nothing else, Nice guy attitudes never got me anywhere with them here. I learned that you have to take control of the situation, let them know in no uncertain terms what you expect from them and be willing to walk out if need be. I never give money up front anymore, its a guaranteed bad time, at least in my experience.
For instance, I made a visit to Cherry at Aloha TLC. She comes in with her condom and lube kit. Normally I would go along being a first timer there. I know she does BBFS. I told her I ain't using the cover and if she wants me as a customer she better put out. BBFS all the way with CIP in DS with lots of DFK. Worked for me. Of course she told me she has never done that before. I would come back if it wasn't for size issues, but had a good and left happy.
I pay attention to everything UH posts. He may ruffle a few feathers once in a while, maybe my own too, but he says it as is with no apologies and I respect him for that.
Just
The KBGs are not entirely at fault for their behavior. They're spoiled, put on a pedestal, treated like a celebrity, and get their asses kissed by dumbshits (lonely, spineless, playboy wannabe losers) who soak in and get high on all the KBG-BS they hear.
They're only bar girls, gentlemen. Furlough Friday this week; join in the nekohanaless, 100% boycott of KBs to support our local economy and people.
I pay attention to everything UH posts. He may ruffle a few feathers once in a while, maybe my own too, but he says it as is with no apologies and I respect him for that.
Just
I actually enjoy it when Un Holy bashes on KB women. I know some of us on here feel it's a bit cruel on what he says but, he is the Simon Cowell on this forum. We actually need someone like that on here as a wake up call. I know everyone of us has the Needy/Wussiness that will eventually come out when we come across a nice/pretty/sexy chick.
Like Aflack mentioned earlier, they are spoiled and put on a pedestal. But why? What makes these bargirls so great? What have they done to you to deserve the right to be worthy of a drink? Did they greatly impact your life for the better? Hehe. Was she there for you when you were in dire need of help?
Heh, I bet get some guys out there that would say a BG does help and that she was there for them and listened to them when they feeling down, having issues with their wife, problems at work. Heh, you may think she's listening to you but, she may just be hearing all the things you're saying. In the back of her mind what she really wants is: "Uhmmm...can I get another drink?"
Let's recap what Wn5912 mentioned earlier on his experience with a BG, she was asking him for $2,500 to help her with her bills. Now, there's probably guys out there who have helped a BG girl out when they needed help. But, let's say you lost your job and you needed financial help from her, what are the chances that she(BG) would do the same for you? Why would she? Right? Why would she take on another burden when she herself trying to get by on her own.
Sure, the girl maybe hot, she catches your attention, you like get a piece of that etc etc etc. But, this excitement is only short lived. As nice as something can be, we eventually get tired and bored of it.
What makes these bargirls so great? What have they done to you to deserve the right to be worthy of a drink? Did they greatly impact your life for the better?
Heh, I bet get some guys out there would say that a BG does help and that she was there for them and listened to them when they feeling down, having issues with their wife, problems at work.
The KBGs are not entirely at fault for their behavior. They're spoiled, put on a pedestal, treated like a celebrity, and get their asses kissed by dumbshits (lonely, spineless, playboy wannabe losers) who soak in and get high on all the KBG-BS they hear.
In all fairness to reality, WE put them on a pedestal. WE spoil them. Seriously, all of us on here monger, otherwise, why would we be here, right? Yeah there are some less than savory KBGs but the same as there are some less than savory doctors, lawyers, teachers, etc., you get the point. Yes we pay them to listen and give us attention but if we wanted to see a shrink or were capable of getting attention the old fashioned way, we would. I unlike many do not look down on most KBGs nor do I think they are ROBs as most of us here are intelligent enough to know what we are doing. The girl has a job, and that is to get you to buy drinks. If she is good at it then so be it. WE know what WE are getting into up front.
If you want straight play, go to an AMP. If you want a true GFE, go to eHarmony, Match or try your luck at the supermarket.
All of that being said, I also am smart enough to understand a balance of power struggle exists. If we protest (Furlough Friday Boycott) then we will get their attention but my point was to, "keep it real", as the kids like to say.
Sorry, one last thing, many of us have SO's. Therefore we want the attention but not necessarily the sex, etc., which is why some still go to the KBs and seemingly get robbed. They are doing it of their own free will. Because of the SO part, remember, you don't pay the girl for attention, sex, play, etc., you pay her to go away after!
Re: In All Fairness
Thanks for your input, brah. Your comments and insights are taken with much regard. This is the essence of all commentary and debate: to piqué the interest of individuals and create meaningful discussion(s). As far as keeping things real, that is up to the dreamer and those who believe in the same dream; that is the essence of meaning and reality. All IMO only; will not comment any further.
Yo,
Having seen it happen time and time again, and so many of you kids in denial when you get your mind fooked really good by a pro, I am still amazed at how freaking good these money sucking biatches are at fuking your mind over a long period (years) of time.
Heck, some of my buds even married AMP or bar whroe-only to lose money within 5 years in the divorce. Seems like the biatches have it all planned out from the beginning. They are that good.
Live and learn. Thanks UH for your amazingly accurate and frank insight.
Jb
Thanks Unholy,
A lot of questions, in my mind, were answered by you! What I want to know is "Where do they get the expertise for fuking you mind up".
I mean, they really press this issue, and are good at it!
The "O" Man
Get involved with any of the above-referenced contractors and be ready to learn the lesson(s) of your life. Your wonderful partner will do anything and everything for money (or just for kicks) behind your back. Lies, disloyalty, and manipulation are obligatory events to be dealt with daily. Oh, and it gets better. If you let it happen.
The maggots will suck your assets dry and then go after your dignity for dessert. They'll waste you all-the-way and dump your shriveled arse for a fresher piece of meat. If you let it happen.
Kill the snake; cut off its head. No buy nekohanas; support our local vendors on furlough days.
And then dealing with a woman, who is, in a business where she actually gets fuked, is not a comfortable thought! Definitely not for me!
Well, Uki Eater managed to keep his wits about him and backed off! Maybe she would have been more normal if he did get to her earlier and got her out of the business!
I felt that I shouldn't have pursued her for various reasons. When I would visit her and she sits by me, she would tell me she'd step away and come back. I say: "Yah, ok no problem" Now, most of us know or, I should say should know that the girls would attend to their other regular customers or, the mama at the bar would pull her away to go to the back room. So, I waited at the booth patiently. But, it was becoming to be a very long wait. I waited like over 30min already. I stood up and I decided to walk out of there and head home. I seen her sitting at another table trying to get a drink. I actually was a bit upset about it to have waited that long. The next visit to her, she would come to me and she noticed I was bothered on something. I told her why and she said: "I'm sorry about that"
It bothered me also to think about the idea that another customer touching her or grabbing her in any way. That's the big problem I had with this BG. I was looking at her more than just a BG to get physical with. Geez... I making it as though she's my GF already. My friends would make me realize that that's how it is though in a business like that. It is expected that if you don't feel like grabbing her or be physical, then someone else surely will. Also, what do you have going between her? Pretty much nothing. She is just someone whom you like to see and be with at a bar and talk story with. What made me fall for her was my attraction towards her. I liked the way she looked, how she dressed, even how she talked. Plus, she's not the aggressive type which I liked.
Now, I'm not saying for every nice, pretty BG I see I'll be attracted to her. When I went in that hostess bar with my friend, I was not looking to hookup with a BG in any way. It's just that it came to me unexpectedly of how I viewed her as a nice looking woman. I wasn't looking at the big picture on things like she works at a bar, sits with other customers for a drink and possibly gets physical with other customers to get a drink. I'm sure some of you mongers out there like the feeling of a woman you feel is attractive and you're attracted to sitting next to you. The holding hands, kissing on the lips the comforting you receive from a woman. It just generally feels nice even though you know it doesn't mean anything or you don't have anything going on personally with her.
It's this temporary love or so called make pretend love feels nice. I know each monger who walks into a bar has a a certain issue in their lives that they're going though. Some of them have more dramas in their lives going on than others. Some of us want the company of a woman just to temporarily make us feel good to get us by. You could be pissed off at your SO or she giving you dramas, you stressed out at work and your boss is getting on your back etc. You could walk into a bar and not be bothered by the fact that you're going to blow $$$$. I mean sh*t you're already pissed off anyways so.. your mindset is like nonchalant thinking.
I bet most guys on here don't like to be comforted by another male or among male friends. You don't want to come off as weak or wimp towards other males. In most cases, a woman on the other hand, can comfort a man in a softer manner. Softer meaning they less blunt and sassy. What helps in the comforting also is not just advice given or words that is spoken but, the touch and hug of a person helps contribute to it as well. It's obvious most of us not gonna wanna hug another dude. LoL "There there Uki, lemme treat you to an AMP to make you feel better" Haha
Nothing wrong with dating a bg/amp. But if you do then know what her "profession" is. It's to make money, it's her job. Rule number one has got to be not to visit her at work. You should be getting all that free anyway outside of her work place. If youwere dating a teacher, secretary, lawyer, would you visit her at work while she was busy? Don't mix business and pleasure. If you have issues with how she works you shouldn't be seeing or dating her. Common sence here. Heck if you are dating you should be supportive and listen to her problems that's what you are there for as a SO. Treat them like a woman they will treat you like a man, threat them like a bg they treat you like a john.
Just my .0002. And no I've never dated one, but have friends who have.
T
I am just trying to be realistic here. SW girls are the lower from of prostitutes. AMP girls are nice looking prostitutes in a nice setting. KBG's are neither (well, most of them). To me they are girls who are smart enough to know WE (myself included) are dumb enough to sit there and pay them to drink tea, water or occasionally alcohol with us. Funny thing is most guys look at the alcohol as, "If I get her drunk, maybe she will f*ck me!" Really what she is thinking is, "If I drink, talking to this schmuck will be more bearable!"
Funny thing is most guys look at the alcohol as, "If I get her drunk, maybe she will f*ck me!" Really what she is thinking is, "If I drink, talking to this schmuck will be more bearable!"LOL! That has to be true.
D.
When they think they are using you, you use them. Calculate how many times you fuk them and how much money you spend. If it comes to 200 per fuk then you break even because thats how much the rate is.
Simple math.
Niner Whiner
08-06-10, 04:30
Nothing wrong with dating a bg/AMP. But if you do then know what her "profession" is. It's to make money, it's her job. Rule number one has got to be not to visit her at work. You should be getting all that free anyway outside of her work place. If youwere dating a teacher, secretary, lawyer, would you visit her at work while she was busy? Don't mix business and pleasure. If you have issues with how she works you shouldn't be seeing or dating her.common sence here. Heck if you are dating you should be supportive and listen to her problems that's what you are there for as a SO. Treat them like a woman they will treat you like a man, threat them like a bg they treat you like a john.
Just my. 0002. And no I've never dated one, but have friends who have.
TRule #1 is don't fall in love with a KBG/AMP provider.
Rule #2 is accept the fact that you have to "share" her with other guys, even outside of work.
Rule #3, if you cannot follow Rule #1 or Rule #2, then no go out with one KBG/AMP provider.
Rule #1 is don't fall in love with a KBG/AMP provider.
Rule #2 is accept the fact that you have to "share" her with other guys, even outside of work.
Rule #3, if you cannot follow Rule #1 or Rule #2, then no go out with one KBG/AMP provider.Soo True. I was at the bar with some friends and we was just BS in' talkin' crazy when a girl I went school with walks in and say's what the hell you doing here? With out thinking anything, I said I came to see my wife to be. Talking about the bartendess she looked at me with eyes wide open, me and my friends laughed she didn't cause her bf was sitting two seats down. He's pissed off! Says something to her and leaves. She is all sick I say sorry she says he always act like that. Sad. If it's one of you guy take it easy and chill. It was just a joke.
If you got one that does BBBJCIM, bbfscip and rims and gives you the best massage,. Better than a professional shiatsu place, then might as well think about settling down. HMMMMM. And cooks and cleans and lets you use her as your personal fuk doll. Well now let me think about this.
KBGeees and AMPGeees are totally undependable. If you make a date there is a 80% chance they will break it. They don't care if it cost you money, to them you are only toilet paper.
GUYS, Wake up!
They use us and make us think we are using them, but in the end, who made the profit? A man might have a chance with a nice woman, but will always looooooose to a C-U-N-T
I hate guys from this site who rat out other guys and take the side of the chicks just to look good and get on their good side.
To all you rats out there, I hope your Jr falls off. Or maybe better that you end up marrying the Korean chick you think is in love with you and she later fuks you in the ass! You deserve it!
If your one of the guys who are solid for da boys then cool. But if your a traitor. What goes around should be visitng you and I hope you get stung real hard!
There are about three rats on this site that I know of and you know who you are and maybe two of you sit and enjoy showing them what goes on with their lap tops. Good luck to you!
Phreekstyle
08-19-10, 06:09
When it comes to the KBG scene I seen and heard a lot in my time. And I was always the one that said that you can NEVER make one of these hoes your GF, your wife, or SO in any way shape or form. You would be a fool for even THINKING of trying. But even a tough as nails cynical bastard like me can get caught up in the game of these masterful hoes.
I am not an ugly bastard nor am I grossly overweight and disgustingly sloppy in appearance. In a conversation I can hold my own, and have been told that I can be quite charming at times. I can get a GF if I wanted to settle but I feel that a man's grasp should exceed his reach.
I have an ATF KBG that I look hard for when I go to my fave KBar and I get disappointed when I don't see her or am not able to sit with her when I am out there. She tells me that she feels a special connection with me and that I am not like any other guy out there. And like a dumbass I believe her when she is telling me this BS.
I make a modest amount of money and managed to save some of it so that I could spend some time in one of the back rooms with her. I never got further than 2nd base with her and when I tried to slide into 3rd she looks at me and says "what kind of girl do you think I am? I am not the kind of girl that just goes in here and gets her brains f*cked out just cause you're paying a premium for some alone time. "
Inside my head I'm thinking". Uh, yeah why you think I'm paying you so much for? "
But she fooled me into thinking that she was a "Good Girl" and its been a bit of time since I been with one of those. So I go with it cause I am obviously a dumbass.
Well the time ran out on our alone time and I had to leave so that could get up early for work the next day. And I left there thinking thoughts that I normally never do about these kind of girls. Like what it would be like to date her and how awesome it would be to take care of her and queer sh*t like that.
So I decide that I wanted to see her again the next night and I see her running into a car being driven by some dude who oviously is going out for some "take out" and I feel this cold icy dagger being shoved into my chest area.
This is where the line has been crossed. Mess with my money and rip me off, and I can go to work and make me more money. Mess with my body and fuck me till my brains fall out and I will thank you for it, and walk away better for the experience.
But mess with my Heart by making me think that you want more than just a sexual type of relationship with me then just ride off with some other fool. That just rubs me raw in the very wrongest way.
Sancho2063
08-20-10, 00:03
KBGeees and AMPGeees are totally undependable. If you make a date there is a 80% chance they will break it. They don't care if it cost you money, to them you are only toilet paper.
GUYS, Wake up!
They use us and make us think we are using them, but in the end, who made the profit? A man might have a chance with a nice woman, but will always looooooose to a C-U-N-TNormally I am a nice guy but when it comes to AMP girls I expect to my hours worth. My first first experience with Monica CHM was very good,she went straight to BBBJ DFK BBFS CIM. I shot my load fast then she tried to rush me out. I was only there about 30 mins. I told her to get momma Jun. She gave BBFS and CIM again. I can put my down or my foot in their ass if I have too.
Everyone has their moments of weakness. The KBGs recognize human frailty and capitalize on it. They then share the experience of what works and what doesn't with the other snakes. In the animal kingdom it's referred to as stalking; cold-blooded and relentless; no-holds barred; whatever.
Don't be a target.
Don't enrich them in any way.
This is where the line has been crossed. Mess with my money and rip me off, and I can go to work and make me more money. Mess with my body and fuck me till my brains fall out and I will thank you for it, and walk away better for the experience.
But mess with my Heart by making me think that you want more than just a sexual type of relationship with me then just ride off with some other fool. That just rubs me raw in the very wrongest way.
Wake up bro. Since you are not a newb to the KB scene, you should know. You're either the one taking her home cuz you're dropping more than enough $$$ or, you're the one taking her home cuz she really likes you for free. If you're in between, then you gotta figure out which side you're gonna slide to with her, if at all. Don't hate the other guy(LOL coulda been me! But it's not, since I haven't done that in awhile). He's in one of the two situations, and you gotta just try to beat him if you give a crap. I could go on, but I hope you know what I meant. Just trying to help out bro.
I just remembered, there are other dorks out there that just give rides to these girls, and serve as their personal taxi and take out food service slaves. These lame asses never get the girl, but they like the appearance of being able to take the girl home, and like to see the look on YOUR face as they are driving away. Right.
Rats and snakes. The bars are full of them. The snakes strike, poison, and swallow the rats whole; it's the second rat that gets the cheese.
To be a rat is a losing proposition; you either get swallowed whole or your neck gets slammed.
Gargoyles69
08-20-10, 17:27
Yea they love to look at your face. Hahahaahahah Been there and done that Tell you the girl will tel you anthing you want to hear? Your the only one. You can cum over tonite, you can take me out, ou can know where I live. WOW these girls will say anything until the next customer comes in. Had this oe girl told me I can stay over her place so I stay at the bar till 2 am took her home. Then al of a suddenn Goodnite. They are so good they only look at your wallet. Its the girls that actually work 2 jobs are alittle better cause they know how hard it is to actually work and work at a bar. Its the girls that only work in a bar that keep pushing and tell yo by sister drink and all. Cause sister bought her drink last night so you want to buy her tonite. I tell them yo buy her then. Her cust buy you a drink then you should buy her a drink with your money. Found out the bar is not always the best place to sit. The girl always tell you to buy bartenender 1 drink so you end up spending for 2 drinks.
Wake up bro. Since you are not a newb to the KB scene, you should know. You're either the one taking her home because you're dropping more than enough $$$ or, you're the one taking her home because she really likes you for free. If you're in between, then you have to figure out which side you're going to slide to with her, if at all. Don't hate the other guy(LOL coulda been me! But it's not, since I haven't done that in awhile). He's in one of the two situations, and you have to just try to beat him if you give a crap. I could go on, but I hope you know what I meant. Just trying to help out bro.
I just remembered, there are other dorks out there that just give rides to these girls, and serve as their personal taxi and take out food service slaves. These lame asses never get the girl, but they like the appearance of being able to take the girl home, and like to see the look on YOUR face as they are driving away. Right.
Niner Whiner
08-25-10, 05:22
Just think if the roles were reversed.
How would YOU like a life where you slept all day. The only real "work" you would have to do is go to the gym and exercise.
You go out on dates with women who bought you lunch or dinner, bought you shit or gave you money.
Then you go to work for 6 hours, drink, get drunk, party all night, AND GET PAID TO DO IT?! And if you get lucky, you might find a woman you like and FUCK HER?
Think these bar girls willing to give up this kind of lifestyle for a regular guy?
Ainokea what anyone seyz. These girls ain't looking for love, they looking for one provider.
I hate guys from this site who rat out other guys and take the side of the chicks just to look good and get on their good side.
To all you rats out there, I hope your Jr falls off. Or maybe better that you end up marrying the Korean chick you think is in love with you and she later fuks you in the ass! You deserve it!
If your one of the guys who are solid for da boys then cool. But if your a traitor. What goes around should be visitng you and I hope you get stung real hard!
There are about three rats on this site that I know of and you know who you are and maybe two of you sit and enjoy showing them what goes on with their lap tops. Good luck to you!
Well those Rats usually got no money and no luck with women.
These girls ain't looking for love, they looking for one provider.
You do have a point and that is because sometimes, love is not enough. A BG or regular girl can settle for a man whose average to below average looking but, can be a provider. Some, settle for the convenience. They know that the odds of her trying to get a man who is good looking and whose very well off is slim. There's alot of pretty girls that they have to compete with.
Guys on the other hand, go after a girl whom they are physically attracted to at first. Then, hope she has the personality to back up her looks. I think most of us guys are not that primarily concerned about her financial status. Not as much as how women are with men. Heh, if you come across a girl whom you find attractive in your eyes who is also sweet and a possible GF to wife material, I doubt most guys will say: "I'm not going to see her anymore, shes' cute and sweet but, she just doesn't earn enough for me to be content to settle with someone who only earns that much"
Yo,
All to true UE. I had a AMP whre tell me her criteria for her mate. Older guy that she can control(prolly w her pussy), net worth over $1. 5M, own property, have $500K cash. Notice, she neva mention good looking, tall, nice guy-nothing like that. Just a sucker, er, suga daddy type with enough cash to provide lifestyle where exercise at the gym is the most work she will ever do, and enough assets to give her nice nest egg when she splits in 4 or 5 years-her exact words. And yes, she's done it before, and will do it again till she too old, but by then she will have at least a cool mil in cash. What a life.
Be careful kids.
Jb
You do have a point and that is because sometimes, love is not enough. A BG or regular girl can settle for a man whose average to below average looking but, can be a provider. Some, settle for the convenience. They know that the odds of her trying to get a man who is good looking and whose very well off is slim. There's alot of pretty girls that they have to compete with.
Guys on the other hand, go after a girl whom they are physically attracted to at first. Then, hope she has the personality to back up her looks. I think most of us guys are not that primarily concerned about her financial status. Not as much as how women are with men. Heh, if you come across a girl whom you find attractive in your eyes who is also sweet and a possible GF to wife material, I doubt most guys will say: "I'm not going to see her anymore, shes' cute and sweet but, she just doesn't earn enough for me to be content to settle with someone who only earns that much"
Hehe, I like this Mind of a Korean bar girl thread. I guess because you can go on and on posting different things on the topic.
Alright, in regards to the title, "How do you turn down a BG when she approaches you?" I'm sure we all had a time when a BG whom we are not interested in, approach us and asked us for a drink. If you're new to the hostess bar scene, I’m sure a guy would not turn them down or have a hard time turning them down. They just end up buying them a drink because they feel guilty and feel bad to say no. Or, they feeling the pressure and just give in. I admit myself, years ago; I didn't know how to react back then. I would just sit there with my friend across me and we just smile at each other wondering what we should do. Then, she be standing there wondering what we are doing hehe. Eventually, we just gave in and bought her a drink.
Nowadays, I handle it better now. I don't hesitate to answer and don't feel a need to get rude or sassy towards a BG when she approaches me asking for a drink. If you hesitate, this implies to her that you’re thinking about it and considering it. When a BG approaches me, I just talk with her for a little while but, if she asks for a drink, I just tell her in a polite manner: "Naw... not right now. I'm just here to get a drink" You need to be firm about it and stand your ground. But, say it in a nice way though. It's not hard to turn them down, they'll understand. What you don't want to do is give them the run around like how I did before by hesitating to answer. We just sit there stalling and she gets irked by that and just leaves. I guess it takes time and as you get more comfortable with the bar scene, you handle it better. I’m sure when a guy hesitates, he think this
“Hmm…should I buy her a drink? Maybe just one and that’s it”
“Uh oh, who is this? Sigh…I don’t want to buy her a drink, I’ll just ignore her until she gets the hint and walks away”
“Aww man…why this one had to approach me? If she was the other one I been eyeing out than maybe I would”
I know some guys have a tendency to get sassy and wise with the girls if they ask for a drink. Some guys can say something like: "Oh, so you like one drink? What you going to do for me if I buy you a drink?" Some guys see the girl as a pest if she approaches them. Or, they just ignore them and not acknowledge them and eventually, she gets the hint and walks away. There's no need to act like this. Of course they will eventually approach you and ask for a drink, which is why they are working there. They need to hustle for drinks. In most cases, they know that a guy won’t approach them and offer them a drink.
I post this because I know when I ask some of my other friends who don’t go hostess bars as much, they would say this when I invite them: “Hostess bar? Nah gotta buy ladies drink and spend money” When they say this, I tell them: “Who says you have to buy them a drink? I go there and don’t feel a need or am obligated to buy a lady a drink” I see some guys get all petrified when a BG approaches them and ask for a drink. Some guys feel: “just don’t go to a hostess bar and you’ll not worry about buying drinks” This is true but, it’s like the ones who say this, have a hard time saying no because they know, they can’t always say no.
Now, I know what I just mentioned earlier, won’t always work for all of you. Some of you have your own way of saying no to a BG asking for a drink. There are those times where you feel stuck and the bartender says: “Do you want to buy the lady a drink?” Or, the mama would bring the girl to you. Heh, I guess some of you are more upfront and would say: “Nah, not her, I like that girl who is sitting over there!” Hehe. Not all girls are aggressive in approaching a guy, I’m sure there are those who are shy to approach a guy and ask for a drink.
The bottom line is we shouldn’t get upset, mad or rude if a BG approaches you and asks for a drink. If this bothers you, then why bother going to a hostess bar? Yeah I know, some of us want to hang out there and look at the eye candy but, not spend. Hehe, that’s what I do. I do buy a BG a drink when I feel like it. But, I don’t feel that when I go there, I always have to buy a BG a drink.
Tomkat4848
09-06-10, 06:23
Buying drinks for Bar Girls is one of the oldest scams in the sex business. Those girls are paid to do one thing, make the suckers buy drinks. Lots of guys think they are going to score with these chicks. No way, Jose. When a woman in a strip club asks me to buy her a drink I just tell her I don't buy drinks and that is the end of it.
Lots of guys think they are going to score with these chicks.
Some guys feel that eventually they'll score with her. Even if it means blowing mad money on them. Of course the girl they interested in won't give it up right away but, eventually, she'll give in because he has invested so much into her.
The girl thinks: "Ah, what the hell, he spent enough to the point where I can put out for him already. Alright, I'll let him have some"
She can only go so far with the dancing, kissing, teasing etc. where the guy will expect more by now.
Captin Crunch
09-06-10, 12:16
If a girl just comes to the table and ask for a drink, I tell them "I don't like it when girls asks for drinks. I buy when I feel like it". If someone comes, sits down, and talk story for a while, I will consider buying her one. If she continues to talk (and not ask), I probably will buy her another. Other than that, I won't. My other rule is not to buy a girl a drink if she comes to work late (after 7). These normally are the high maintainence ROBs. If they need money, come to work earlier and don't rush customers to buy her drinks. I've been doing this bar scene for close to 25 years and miss the good ole times when the girls don't come/go and push customers for drinks. Maybe it's time for me to retire.
Hehe, I like this Mind of a Korean bar girl thread. I guess because you can go on and on posting different things on the topic.
Alright, in regards to the title, "How do you turn down a BG when she approaches you?" I'm sure we all had a time when a BG whom we are not interested in, approach us and asked us for a drink. If you're new to the hostess bar scene, I’m sure a guy would not turn them down or have a hard time turning them down. They just end up buying them a drink because they feel guilty and feel bad to say no. Or, they feeling the pressure and just give in. I admit myself, years ago; I didn't know how to react back then. I would just sit there with my friend across me and we just smile at each other wondering what we should do. Then, she be standing there wondering what we are doing hehe. Eventually, we just gave in and bought her a drink.
Nowadays, I handle it better now. I don't hesitate to answer and don't feel a need to get rude or sassy towards a BG when she approaches me asking for a drink. If you hesitate, this implies to her that you’re thinking about it and considering it. When a BG approaches me, I just talk with her for a little while but, if she asks for a drink, I just tell her in a polite manner: "Naw... not right now. I'm just here to get a drink" You need to be firm about it and stand your ground. But, say it in a nice way though. It's not hard to turn them down, they'll understand. What you don't want to do is give them the run around like how I did before by hesitating to answer. We just sit there stalling and she gets irked by that and just leaves. I guess it takes time and as you get more comfortable with the bar scene, you handle it better. I’m sure when a guy hesitates, he think this
“Hmm…should I buy her a drink? Maybe just one and that’s it”
“Uh oh, who is this? Sigh…I don’t want to buy her a drink, I’ll just ignore her until she gets the hint and walks away”
“Aww man…why this one had to approach me? If she was the other one I been eyeing out than maybe I would”
I know some guys have a tendency to get sassy and wise with the girls if they ask for a drink. Some guys can say something like: "Oh, so you like one drink? What you going to do for me if I buy you a drink?" Some guys see the girl as a pest if she approaches them. Or, they just ignore them and not acknowledge them and eventually, she gets the hint and walks away. There's no need to act like this. Of course they will eventually approach you and ask for a drink, which is why they are working there. They need to hustle for drinks. In most cases, they know that a guy won’t approach them and offer them a drink.
I post this because I know when I ask some of my other friends who don’t go hostess bars as much, they would say this when I invite them: “Hostess bar? Nah gotta buy ladies drink and spend money” When they say this, I tell them: “Who says you have to buy them a drink? I go there and don’t feel a need or am obligated to buy a lady a drink” I see some guys get all petrified when a BG approaches them and ask for a drink. Some guys feel: “just don’t go to a hostess bar and you’ll not worry about buying drinks” This is true but, it’s like the ones who say this, have a hard time saying no because they know, they can’t always say no.
Now, I know what I just mentioned earlier, won’t always work for all of you. Some of you have your own way of saying no to a BG asking for a drink. There are those times where you feel stuck and the bartender says: “Do you want to buy the lady a drink?” Or, the mama would bring the girl to you. Heh, I guess some of you are more upfront and would say: “Nah, not her, I like that girl who is sitting over there!” Hehe. Not all girls are aggressive in approaching a guy, I’m sure there are those who are shy to approach a guy and ask for a drink.
The bottom line is we shouldn’t get upset, mad or rude if a BG approaches you and asks for a drink. If this bothers you, then why bother going to a hostess bar? Yeah I know, some of us want to hang out there and look at the eye candy but, not spend. Hehe, that’s what I do. I do buy a BG a drink when I feel like it. But, I don’t feel that when I go there, I always have to buy a BG a drink.
I hate guys from this site who rat out other guys and take the side of the chicks just to look good and get on their good side.
To all you rats out there, I hope your Jr falls off. Or maybe better that you end up marrying the Korean chick you think is in love with you and she later fuks you in the ass! You deserve it!
If your one of the guys who are solid for da boys then cool. But if your a traitor. What goes around should be visitng you and I hope you get stung real hard!
There are about three rats on this site that I know of and you know who you are and maybe two of you sit and enjoy showing them what goes on with their lap tops. Good luck to you!
Brother Un Holy,
I agree, there are more than just 3 rats on this site, and I would personally like to find out who the mutha -fukas are. It really sucks when our posts are being shared with providers and they in turn, try to figure out who we are and I am surprised at how many bitches are reading this forum.
For this thread, my advice is: if you don't feel the vibe from the Korean Bar girl, be very firm and tell them that you are just having a drink, otherwise they will keep coming back until you say yes. Once in a while, you will find a new pretty girl that like you. Those in the game know exactly what I am referring to. It's the same on the other side of the field, the experienced KBG can spot a sugar daddy a mile away.
We have all benefitted from this exchange, but I find it interesting that no one is truly sharing these "diamond in the rough" type girls.
But once again, there are too many rats and providers reading this forum, which is why I have never contributed to this thread.
Mav
Brother Un Holy,
I agree, there are more than just 3 rats on this site, and I would personally like to find out who the mutha -fukas are. It really sucks when our posts are being shared with providers and they in turn, try to figure out who we are and I am surprised at how many bitches are reading this forum.
For this thread, my advice is: if you don't feel the vibe from the Korean Bar girl, be very firm and tell them that you are just having a drink, otherwise they will keep coming back until you say yes. Once in a while, you will find a new pretty girl that like you. Those in the game know exactly what I am referring to. It's the same on the other side of the field, the experienced KBG can spot a sugar daddy a mile away.
We have all benefitted from this exchange, but I find it interesting that no one is truly sharing these "diamond in the rough" type girls.
But once again, there are too many rats and providers reading this forum, which is why I have never contributed to this thread.
Mav
I agree there's a bunch of rats here, but I think word of USAG has also spread along the Korean grapevine. I hate going to a bar or a MP and the girl I know asks me about "the internet site". As I have said before, plausible deniability.
But once again, there are too many rats and providers reading this forum, which is why I have never contributed to this thread.
Mav
It doesn't bother me if these BG, AMP girls etc read this forum. Eventually, they will find out about this site. Lettum read, if... they can? If they find out who I am etc, shit, I no care either Hehe. I remember me and my friend went into London Hub and asked the lady at LH if Kyong is working. Her response was: "Ah, how you know her? The internet?" Me and my friend looked at each other like: "Hah, internet? We just asking if she here" It's obvious that BGs, AMPs and MT knows about this site as this site is public. You don't need to login to view it. But, I hope they can read upon, listen and learn from it. But, of course some won't care and just go about their own way of making money regardless of what method or tactic they use. They feel they don't need to listen because they are making money already.
For the guys who do show them this site, they feel that by doing that, they win some points with the girls. But frankly, why should the BG care about you? If she really cared, it shouldn't require you to spend money on her. Right? The reality is, you are doing more for her than she is for you. Hehe, I bet some guys feel that she is doing alot for you. Oh wells, up to you guys to think like that. Hehe, hey, if you and the girl reading this, try look at her and ask her this: "Hey baby, do you really care about me?" Askum why? put her on the spot. Hehe, see if she will make sacrifices for you and go out of her way to do things for you as you do for her. I bet you that she will fall short. You have to do things first and then she reacts to it.
If she really cared, it shouldn't require you to spend money on her. Right? The reality is, you are doing more for her than she is for you. Hehe, I bet some guys feel that she is doing alot for you. Oh wells, up to you guys to think like that. Hehe, hey, if you and the girl reading this, try look at her and ask her this: "Hey baby, do you really care about me?" Askum why? put her on the spot. Hehe, see if she will make sacrifices for you and go out of her way to do things for you as you do for her. I bet you that she will fall short.
I once was in a KB that got raided and the girl called her "husband" to come "now". Meanwhile they (LE) asked her but one question: when his birthday was - I could tell her a-hole was puckering. The guy showed up and right away they asked him when his birthday was and the months were way off. "Wat kine wife dat??!! Donno yo bertday!!??" said the officer and I was amused that they knew, basically, that no BG gives a crap about your B-day. I also reckoned at that moment that in all the years and all the girls, none of them ever asked about my b-day. Their's is always right around the corner, though :)
Other than that, I won't. My other rule is not to buy a girl a drink if she comes to work late (after 7). These normally are the high maintainence ROBs. If they need money, come to work earlier and don't rush customers to buy her drinks. I've been doing this bar scene for close to 25 years and miss the good ole times when the girls don't come/go and push customers for drinks. Maybe it's time for me to retire.[/QUOTE]
I know exactly what you mean. To me the last 8 years or so things have got progressively worse. I guess the girls were used to the years of the economy being soo good for so long they assume that money is easy and that every guy has money to donate to them as long as they ask or something to that effect. I do not go to the KB scene all that much, it is always same old people, maybe different places and all the new good ones either get corrupted by momma or a pro snatches them up, lol.
Overheard some guys talking about this site and thread; they said it's a daily read. Never mentioned this site to anyone but have had people informing me of specific topics and KBGs.
It is a public forum and you can't keep a secret in the KBs. Too many big mouths and wannabee big shots who try to impress whoever will listen.
Niner Whiner
09-07-10, 03:58
Overheard some guys talking about this site and thread; they said it's a daily read. Never mentioned this site to anyone but have had people informing me of specific topics and KBGs.
It is a public forum and you can't keep a secret in the KBs. Too many big mouths and wannabee big shots who try to impress whoever will listen.Some guys don't play it cool.
For example.
They come here, get the 411 on some girls, then go hunting.
They expect to get "play" or "action" from these girls, and if they don't, then they stay stupid stuff like "I thought you put out". And the girl asks him, "who told you THAT? "
OR
A report on a girl is made.
The next thing you know, 50 guys all going to see her the very next week.
Instead of approaching it like this:
Go to a bar.
Ask the bartender or mama something like "yeah, last time I was here with my friends, met this girl named so-and-so, she working? " This way, you are introduced to the girl, instead of just seeking her out.
Some guys don't play it cool.
For example.
They come here, get the 411 on some girls, then go hunting.
They expect to get "play" or "action" from these girls, and if they don't, then they stay stupid stuff like "I thought you put out". And the girl asks him, "who told you THAT? "
OR
A report on a girl is made.
The next thing you know, 50 guys all going to see her the very next week.
Instead of approaching it like this:
Go to a bar.
Ask the bartender or mama something like "yeah, last time I was here with my friends, met this girl named so-and-so, she working? " This way, you are introduced to the girl, instead of just seeking her out.
Yep. I normally socialize with the bartenders or, if you know one of the hostesses already, just ask her: "Whose that tall Korean one?". She's going to give you the name. Establish friendship among the people in the bar. I wouldn't want to just walk in a bar I never been into, then, just ask for someone upfront. I'd feel a bit awkward. A good example: years ago me and my friend walked into London Hub bar in Kalihi for the first time. We asked the lady: "Hi, is Kyong working tonight?" Her response: "How you know her? Internet?"
Even with the AMPs, they go in there just asking for the name of the provider upfront. That would be awkward because then, she will be like: "Do I know you?" What you gonna say? "No, but, I read about you on the forum" If you ask mama for her name, she'll ask: "How you know her" The typical response is: "Oh, my friend"
You don't need to ask for the name upfront. When mama send you to the room, just ask "who is working tonight?" Then, when the name comes up, let's say Joanne is one of the names. Then just say: "Uhmm...can I see Joanne?" Say it in a manner that you have absolutely no clue about her. At least this doesn't make it sound obvious.
Or, if you see the lineup, just ask mama: "Whose the one in the black, red, white etc.?" She'll go down the names of the girls. Then, when the name comes up, you say: "Oh, I guess I'll pick her then"
*Note: How you present yourself and the tone of your voice plays a part. Have some personality. Be happy and cheerful. You don't want to ask for her name in a serious manner that sounds like she's going to be interrogated
Play dumb but, don't be dumb.
Not really a review, but it's in line with topic of this forum section- THE MIND. I actually dated a former bar girl. Knew her for years, like a couple decades from small kid time, before she got into the business. We kinda lost touch for a handful of yrs in which she did work at a KB. She said that she didn't play, but she did go on dates with very select clients who seemed to meet her needs for her and her child. I took that as a place to live and some extra kala for some material pleasures. Funny is that I've been with a small number of KBGs and sometimes you can see a trend with how they talk, they tend to talk the same sweet words to any guy/patron that gets them wild to drop and do anything for them. I reconnected with this wahine and I got played really damn good in respect to the KBG mentality. I thought I was being treated unique and her eyes and words were only for me. Move about nearly a yr later, I wise up, work on my priorities, we part ways, she says how much she misses me and she can't live without me, yadda yadda yadda. I tell her to give me more time to square some details away, then it would have been smoother sailing than the previous yr. She agrees and we keep in contact once and a while and it seems she is handling the situation (we were all over each other every day, even when she was at work at her administrative position...good times! so time apart was rather interesting). Later I do some snooping around on FB, which I never really did before and noticed some interesting going ons, asked some mutual friends for some background on the social circle and whaddayaknow! She's found a replacement for the time being. Sugar Daddy might be the longer version for SUCKA! lol. I had the head slap from myself. Giving benefit of the doubt, I wasn't there as much anymore and also as far as terms of endearment and words that could make a cock hard just from hearing them...is just second nature. hahaha
The moral of the story? The bar girl doesn't need to be in the bar to play the same game. I am happy to say that after the proper testing, I am clean, back in the hobby (when I have time from work), and the new guy's a chump who couldn't afford moving out of his parents' million dollar Kailua house to take care of his girlfriend, who he is now taking care of, along with her kid and their debt, under his parents' roof getting told those same sweet KBG words that got me all sprung. However, the sexual encounters we had was bad ass in comparison to my last MGF threesome. Kinda miss it...hahaha
Not really a review, but it's in line with topic of this forum section- THE MIND. I actually dated a former bar girl. Knew her for years, like a couple decades from small kid time, before she got into the business. We kinda lost touch for a handful of yrs in which she did work at a KB. She said that she didn't play, but she did go on dates with very select clients who seemed to meet her needs for her and her child. I took that as a place to live and some extra kala for some material pleasures. Funny is that I've been with a small number of KBGs and sometimes you can see a trend with how they talk, they tend to talk the same sweet words to any guy/patron that gets them wild to drop and do anything for them. I reconnected with this wahine and I got played really damn good in respect to the KBG mentality. I thought I was being treated unique and her eyes and words were only for me. Move about nearly a yr later, I wise up, work on my priorities, we part ways, she says how much she misses me and she can't live without me, yadda yadda yadda. I tell her to give me more time to square some details away, then it would have been smoother sailing than the previous yr. She agrees and we keep in contact once and a while and it seems she is handling the situation (we were all over each other every day, even when she was at work at her administrative position...good times! so time apart was rather interesting). Later I do some snooping around on FB, which I never really did before and noticed some interesting going ons, asked some mutual friends for some background on the social circle and whaddayaknow! She's found a replacement for the time being. Sugar Daddy might be the longer version for SUCKA! lol. I had the head slap from myself. Giving benefit of the doubt, I wasn't there as much anymore and also as far as terms of endearment and words that could make a cock hard just from hearing them...is just second nature. hahaha
The moral of the story? The bar girl doesn't need to be in the bar to play the same game. I am happy to say that after the proper testing, I am clean, back in the hobby (when I have time from work), and the new guy's a chump who couldn't afford moving out of his parents' million dollar Kailua house to take care of his girlfriend, who he is now taking care of, along with her kid and their debt, under his parents' roof getting told those same sweet KBG words that got me all sprung. However, the sexual encounters we had was bad ass in comparison to my last MGF threesome. Kinda miss it...hahaha
BG or not, the mentality of a woman is basically the same. Just because a woman does not work in a bar, does not mean they don't play the same mind games.
Example: You ask a woman for her phone number and she hesitates to give it to you. However, you are not one to take no for an answer. She'll try and bring up an excuse to not give it out. So, you put her on the spot and eventually she gives it to you.
She knows that alot of guys has asked for her phone number. But, of course she will not just give it out to any guy that asks. She will try and turn a guy down but do it in a suttle way that doesn't sound harsh. But, the reality is that she just doesn't want to give it to you because she either thinks:
1. Not attracted to you. She finds you unattractive, but of course she won't come out and say it to your face.
2. Don't see you as a potential BF material.
3. Don't feel you have something to offer her.
4. She just finds you weird and creepy.
5. She just plain don't like you and is not interested.
Another example between how a woman thinks and how a man thinks
Male: "Hey, what about him? You mind checking out that guy?"
Female: "Naw...he's not my type"
Male: "What you mean not your type? What is your type?"
Heh, this is her suttle way of saying. "Nah, he don't look all that great. I don't think he is attractive enough for me" Of course most females don't come out and be as blunt to say such a thing as a male. If a female asks a male
Female: "Hey, what about her? Would you mind asking her out?"
Male: "Nah, she kinda fat plus, she look old"
Female: "What?!?! That's not nice, you can't judge her based on that alone"
I've seen and heard this so many times. At a bachelor party, my friend hired these 2 strippers to do a show. They were on the older side and they didn't look all that great. They did go off on each other and did a good show though. When they left, the regular strippers came in and us guys was talking to them. 1 of the guys said: "Damn those chicks were ugly!!" The strippers heard that and one of them said: "That's not nice"
Heh, I bet although she said: "That's not nice" part of her cannot help but agree that what he said, has truth to it.
Night Life
09-08-10, 02:34
Yep. I normally socialize with the bartenders or, if you know one of the hostesses already, just ask her: "Whose that tall Korean one? ". She's going to give you the name. Establish friendship among the people in the bar. I wouldn't want to just walk in a bar I never been into, then, just ask for someone upfront. I'd feel a bit awkward. A good example: years ago me and my friend walked into London Hub bar in Kalihi for the first time. We asked the lady: "Hi, is Kyong working tonight? " Her response: "How you know her? Internet? "
Even with the AMPs, they go in there just asking for the name of the provider upfront. That would be awkward because then, she will be like: "Do I know you? " What you going to say? "No, but, I read about you on the forum" If you ask mama for her name, she'll ask: "How you know her" The typical response is: "Oh, my friend"
You don't need to ask for the name upfront. When mama send you to the room, just ask "who is working tonight? " Then, when the name comes up, let's say Joanne is one of the names. Then just say: "Uhmm. Can I see Joanne? " Say it in a manner that you have absolutely no clue about her. At least this doesn't make it sound obvious.
Or, if you see the lineup, just ask mama: "Whose the one in the black, red, white etc? " She'll go down the names of the girls. Then, when the name comes up, you say: "Oh, I guess I'll pick her then"
*Note: How you present yourself and the tone of your voice plays a part. Have some personality. Be happy and cheerful. You don't want to ask for her name in a serious manner that sounds like she's going to be interrogated
Play dumb but, don't be dumb.Uki,
Very good post, This will avoid or lessen lots of awkward encounters.
Thanks
Night Life
09-08-10, 04:56
Overheard some guys talking about this site and thread; they said it's a daily read. Never mentioned this site to anyone but have had people informing me of specific topics and KBGs.
It is a public forum and you can't keep a secret in the KBs. Too many big mouths and wannabee big shots who try to impress whoever will listen.What if we start a new site ? might work better,only worry is sooner or latter KBGS will find out, would this be feasable and worth the time?
Chumchurum
09-16-10, 18:41
After reading alot of these posts, I've come to a conclusion. Most of these posts about relationships with these kgirls are negative, and very seldom have anything good coming out of the relationship. The only thing good would probably be the sex. Yet we still get into relationships with them, and in the end feel the same way when we break up. I guess what we all like to believe and are looking for is that one diamond in the rough not like all the others. This is what keeps us searching.
After reading alot of these posts, I've come to a conclusion. Most of these posts about relationships with these kgirls are negative, and very seldom have anything good coming out of the relationship. The only thing good would probably be the sex. Yet we still get into relationships with them, and in the end feel the same way when we break up. I guess what we all like to believe and are looking for is that one diamond in the rough not like all the others. This is what keeps us searching.
Heh, I know this sounds negative to say but, you should think that it won't work out with a BG when you date her. In most cases, it doesn't work out anyway. This way, you don't put her on the pedestal. Other than enjoying the sex, look at all the negative things and the drama that she may bring to the table. If she is one that is worthy, then she has to make the effort and sacrifices to prove you wrong.
If you look at her as someone being great thus, putting her on the pedestal, then you will be in denial to believe that she is capable of doing bad things to you. You make all these assumptions to justify her actions on why she is doing what she is doing. But, the reality is, she just playing you to the point where she has you wrapped around her finger.
Have this mindset. If she ends up playing you, it won't come as a surprise as you knew all along that she would do such a thing. You won't be in shock and be as devastated because you were expecting it.
Women look at us guys the same way. They view a guy or most guys as just wanting sex sex sex or just being players etc. We pretty much are guilty in their eyes until we can prove to them we're innocent. I'm sure you heard some women saying: "You know.. you're different. You're not like other guys I came across"
Since a man craves sex more than women, he'll put caution aside and just put up with what she says and asks in order to get more sex from her. Women know that mens craving for sex is their weakness. Therefore, they use that to their advantage.
It's ok to date a BG and check her out. But, don't focus too much attention on her. You focus too much attention and you will put her on the pedestal, even though you think that you aren't. To help avoid this, see other BGs. This applies also to not just BGs but to any other girl in general.
After reading alot of these posts, I've come to a conclusion. Most of these posts about relationships with these kgirls are negative, and very seldom have anything good coming out of the relationship. The only thing good would probably be the sex. Yet we still get into relationships with them, and in the end feel the same way when we break up. I guess what we all like to believe and are looking for is that one diamond in the rough not like all the others. This is what keeps us searching.Take this from experience and scientific research, women will always be attractive to guys who have a passion outside of their world, be it in work, arts, music and careers. Why? Because simply they cannot stand the fact that they are not the primary focus in a man's world, it drives them nuts and at the same time extremely interested in a guy's passion that does NOT include them!
They will instantly pick up on your "vibrations" when you enter a establishment and coolly approach the bar without even batting a glimpse in their direction. Try this in front of some BG's, don't look, but put a smile on your face to keep them guessing if it's really her or her friends, works all the time. Don't give in after getting a few drinks, but get her number for some possible "action" next time!
But don't get serious with any, most are there for the money and enjoy your sex benefits. Getting another in another bar is easy, after all they should now its a man's world and not the other way around.
Happy hunting.
Niner Whiner
09-26-10, 20:47
After reading alot of these posts, I've come to a conclusion. Most of these posts about relationships with these kgirls are negative, and very seldom have anything good coming out of the relationship. The only thing good would probably be the sex. Yet we still get into relationships with them, and in the end feel the same way when we break up. I guess what we all like to believe and are looking for is that one diamond in the rough not like all the others. This is what keeps us searching.Not really, it's only the guys who fall in love with them.
Rule #1 about mongering: do not fall in love with a KBG. Cause once this happens, she controls you and will use sex & love to suck you dry.
Cause in the mind of a KBG if you really care for her and love her, you would make her quit and support her.
Just use the 3 f's...find em, fuck em, and forget em...no relationship needed...
Not really, it's only the guys who fall in love with them.
Rule #1 about mongering: do not fall in love with a KBG. Cause once this happens, she controls you and will use sex & love to suck you dry.
Cause in the mind of a KBG if you really care for her and love her, you would make her quit and support her.
Just use the 3 f's...find em, fuck em, and forget em...no relationship needed...Very well said
What makes them so different? They think different. Money is everything to them. They are here in our state to make money, by way of Kbars or AMPs. Simple as that. So the k bar chicks expect you to give them money like they are automatically entitled to it, the AMP chicks want a minimum wage of dollar half and all is good in the world. THEIR WORLD!
A hore is a hore no matter what color you paint them or dress them or fuck them. Korean mentality is built around being "give me money".
Funny thing is. If you go drink someplace else they get mad, but they can sit with as many guys as the want to. "its okay its just my job"
Funny thing is. If you go fuck another AMP chick at another AMP, they get upset because you cheated on them, but they can fuck as many guys as they want because. "its okay its just my job"
Then there are stupid guys out there saying. "oh they are so sweet, treat them nice", No you are so stupid because they playing all you dummies who believe that they are fine women who just are making a living. They are holes and they treat all men like ATM machines.
So I say, let's retake our kingdom and reclaim the fact that men rule and holes should be more appreciative of what we give them. They all need to be tied up and fucked in the ass now and then to keep them in line.
So when you visit an AMP, tell them what you want and if they no like it then take your business someplace else.
Let me know if you guys have any luck. HOLD the LINE!
BRUDDA HINODE! WHERE ARE YOU!
To all you holes reading this. Know your place in life.
Good night and good cunting.
The BBSMI really appreciatee people's info on the subject. But these girls are not any different than any other girls in the world. They manipulate to get what they want! Same for guys! Its amazing that for $200 or less you can go in and get laid by some fine woman without all the stress of pursuing a woman you like after months of trying and taking her out only for her to like another guy and leave you with many many wasted hours of time and money. I can now confidently pursue any woman I want and get her to reject me right away if need be and not give a damn because I'm still getting get laid with or without her at any time I want.
Anyone ever had a relationship work out from a kbar or AMP? Of course its obvious she is working there to make money from sex so there is no dissing the reason she is working there is because she wants or needs money. Anyone with a brain will know a girl from an AMP is screwing many guys not only you, but where it gets confusing is when you take things outside. She is screwing guys while you are hard at work during the day. You don't know if she'll fall for anyone at work since she is coming in contact with men who like her everyday. YOu don't know if she'll catch an STD. But what you do know is that if she's using you you can find another pussy just like that! And thats the beauty of it. If she really likes you and she fucks up, bye bye!
Had so much truth in the past two posts, IMO, that if anybody no "catch on" then you deserve the consequences. They all actresses who will do anything for money and control.
Eh, UnHoly, that's the best one you wrote in a long time because you no post too much nowadays.
Had so much truth in the past two posts, IMO, that if anybody no "catch on" then you deserve the consequences. They all actresses who will do anything for money and control.Well then I'm fucked with my guard up.
Slide Hammer
10-31-10, 06:08
They all need to be fucked in the ass to keep them in line every now and then?
Whenever I read bullshit comments like this, I gag on my vomit.
They all need to be fucked in the ass to keep them in line every now and then?
Whenever I read bullshit comments like this, I gag on my vomit. I know right. That's not right. Like everyone, there are good and bad. What I mean by good is, some of these girls who can't speak english and got no other skills other than sucking and fucking and would rather have a normal life than fuck any dude, whether they like them or not (frick, I've never f'ed a girl I didn't think was hella fine. I feel sorry for them. Never thought this way till I got into the scene and got to know some. But unless you got the funds to bail them out of this lifestyle, I don't think its smart to get serious with them even if they are "good" because its obvious this business turns good girls bad just by the atmosphere. And here I am contradicting myself. Shit.
But these girls are no different than any other girl I've dealt with. They all want something and won't give you pussy for nothing. Well that's my life, maybe some of you are soo handsome they'll do you on the spot for free. Even my free pussy ended up not being free in the long run.
Again,
If you guys cannot handle the truth then, you get burned later and learn the hard way.
Korean chicks who work in bars and AMPs are W*H*O*R*E*S what part of that don't you understand?
I hope you newbies feel the burn someday and then come to your senses later.
To you senior boys,
What is happending in the BBFS world now? PM me. New guys, I don't want to shut out, but I want to warn you that playing with fire can result in bad burns if you don't know how.
I got more to share with those who want to hear it.
I know I haven't been on the forum for awhile. Just don't have the funds available now. I can't even go to get a legitimate massage. Anyways, I asked for advice a couple years ago about dating a kbg and everyone was pretty much saying that I would regret it. I used to go with this girl for about 3 and a half years. We broke up eventually but I'm glad I did. Too much drama and fighting. It's been about 7 months since we have broken up, and she still calls me every once in awhile asking me to do things for her, like picking up pizza or to buy her meats at the commissary, only military can go in the commissary. In the time that we have broken up, I think she still considers me her friend and will ask me to do things that most guys wouldn't do. She does trust me and I will be there for her as a friend. I will never go to another bar again. It would bring back bad memories and if anything when I have funds available, maybe try an AMP. I don't know if anyone has had a successful relationship with a kbg but if you are in one, I wish you the best of luck. I probably do stuff for her because I do care for her but don't want any kind of bg as a girlfriend. I'm sure it is hard to have a kbg as a girlfriend because you have to share them with all of her customers. Just my input on dating a kbg
What alot of people don't get is that marriage is hard work. If you got the right one then its less work. But you got to do some work and not sit on your ass and expect the other half to pick up the pieces all the time.
KBG's and AMP chicks are one in the same with the attitude. I am Korean and I've been in relationships with both. Both are the same. There are very few who will make a long term relationship last with any of them. Most all I know of have ended. Once they get a taste of the $ its hard to go back to spam and eggs. And cooking it yourself.
Most older local guys go to AMPs and bars because their stupid local wives give up on their looks and look like s-h-I-t! How would you like to wake up in the morning and roll over and look at a pieceofshit? Nobody wants that. Wise up local chicks and take care of yourselves and then it will last longer. True that men age better than most women. Most local women hate koreans because the bar and AMP girls create the image of husband stealers, but they take care of their looks and body. Local women you are right, but suck it up because if you look like s-h-I-t and your husband can no longer get a boner from your uglyass then you loose.
But the problem with AMP and bar chicks is that they won't last very long unless you hook up with one that is over 40, who is ready to retire. Most of them work in the bar and AMP because they got money problems and half the time they did it to themselves. Sometimes they got to do it to support another, which does not justify what they do but in their mind it does.
Then you got the ones who just do it for fun and the money and no other reason. These types are either good or bad and if they over 40 you got a chance to survive if you got alot of money.
They young ones want to have kids and have husband and settle down. Very rare to last but I seen it done, so its possible.90% impossible.
So, good luck to all you guys and be smart. If she is willing to get a normal job then it shows that she is really trying. If she still wants the bar then she is in the 90.
Good luck!
Well then I'm fucked with my guard up.They'll F you wherever there's an opening. Go mushy or weak on them? Prepare your dupah for massive reaming (no spit.
Bobofet4422
11-06-10, 16:05
That is so fricken true! Infact ALL my local married bar buddies are frequent AMP partrons. I've heard them say that the sex is bland and can't do 69 or she won't give a BJ. And on top of that, you got to get them into the mood to get some, and its straight mish. Infact I've had to think of Pheobe Cates coming out of the pool in Fast Times to get a bonner so I can do the girlfriend. And then they say "babe, you gaining weight". Shut the fuck up, the only difference is I no get mad. No matter if my chick fat, I still pound them since its free and bb, but I still shed out the doe to bone a hot chick who does things my girl used to do. My bad, had to vent a little.
That's my two cents.
Most older local guys go to AMPs and bars because their stupid local wives give up on their looks and look like s-h-I-t! How would you like to wake up in the morning and roll over and look at a pieceofshit? Nobody wants that. Wise up local chicks and take care of yourselves and then it will last longer. True that men age better than most women. Most local women hate koreans because the bar and AMP girls create the image of husband stealers, but they take care of their looks and body. Local women you are right, but suck it up because if you look like s-h-I-t and your husband can no longer get a boner from your uglyass then you loose.
SnatchThat
11-07-10, 00:04
One thing though is that they treat what they do as a profession. Regardless of what it is the $ money is the main factor that keeps them there. Let's try to convert as many as possible to be good upstanding citizens.
Member #4472
11-07-10, 04:15
One thing though is that they treat what they do as a profession. Regardless of what it is the $ money is the main factor that keeps them there. Let's try to convert as many as possible to be good upstanding citizens.All of my friends who frequented KBs and AMPs and hooked up with the girls eventually got taken for all the would give and then thrown away. If you meet a gal in the KB or AMP, you are just $ to her. That's all she sees you for. Even if you "date" her, that is take her shopping, to dinner, to a movie, you still just $ to her. Get real: only if you meet her, spend no or little $ on her, and she still around, then you got something going. You over 18, you supposed to be a man and not a boy, so if she take you for all you $, good for you, you stupid satt! You got what you deserve!
Yo,
Kids, treat your buds who hook up with AMP / Bar whre like an addict. Tough love. Intervention. Do it. These whres are an addiction to some. Too many of my buds burned bad in past. ONly on still married, but he has to move every three years because his house not nice enough. Proud to say I saved my broker bud couple yrs ago from certain major pain. Even after the "realtor AMP whre" took him for major $ (more than I make in 3 months, he still wanted to hook up with her. Sat him down and showed him court records of her DUI, her money source "sugar daddies" when she lived on mainland (she had no employment record, and all of her name changes (many aliases, addresses, and kid she abandoned on mainland. Even showed him the stories about her "family trouble" and needing money bogus-no records (how many times have we heard that line from the girls, eh-I need money to help my mama, my sister, my father, etc. Also showed him PM's from other mongers who were banging her in Koreamoku AMPs-they all recognize her from her business card with photo on it. Reality check. Use all your resources. I did. It worked. I hear the realtor AMP whre married another broker within 5 mo of his break up-feel soory for the other guy because obviously he didn't do his homework.
But not my broker bud. He one rich pake millionare, but stupid. Be a friend if your bud hooked on AMP / bar whre and get him out whatever it takes. It is what it is-once a whre, always.
Jb.
All of my friends who frequented KBs and AMPs and hooked up with the girls eventually got taken for all the would give and then thrown away. If you meet a gal in the KB or AMP, you are just $ to her. That's all she sees you for. Even if you "date" her, that is take her shopping, to dinner, to a movie, you still just $ to her. Get real: only if you meet her, spend no or little $ on her, and she still around, then you got something going. You over 18, you supposed to be a man and not a boy, so if she take you for all you $, good for you, you stupid satt! You got what you deserve!
Let's try to convert as many as possible to be good upstanding citizens.I hope you were attempting to be humorous, otherwise, I feel sorry for you. Knight in shining armour syndrome yields nothing but misery for you and a lot of $ for the ho. Use the BIG head.
Yo,
Kids, treat your buds who hook up with AMP / Bar whre like an addict. Tough love. Intervention. Do it. These whres are an addiction to some. Too many of my buds burned bad in past. ONly on still married, but he has to move every three years because his house not nice enough. Proud to say I saved my broker bud couple yrs ago from certain major pain. Even after the "realtor AMP whre" took him for major $ (more than I make in 3 months, he still wanted to hook up with her. Sat him down and showed him court records of her DUI, her money source "sugar daddies" when she lived on mainland (she had no employment record, and all of her name changes (many aliases, addresses, and kid she abandoned on mainland. Even showed him the stories about her "family trouble" and needing money bogus-no records (how many times have we heard that line from the girls, eh-I need money to help my mama, my sister, my father, etc. Also showed him PM's from other mongers who were banging her in Koreamoku AMPs-they all recognize her from her business card with photo on it. Reality check. Use all your resources. I did. It worked. I hear the realtor AMP whre married another broker within 5 mo of his break up-feel soory for the other guy because obviously he didn't do his homework.
But not my broker bud. He one rich pake millionare, but stupid. Be a friend if your bud hooked on AMP / bar whre and get him out whatever it takes. It is what it is-once a whre, always.
Jb. Goes.
A good friend / business partner fall into the same trap. As I might have mentioned, fell head over heals for a KB (she still in the BIZ. And choke $, homes, condo, trips, send $home (I told him soo BS, tell him let me wire the money to her ohana back home in KTown, and yadda yadda yadda. All our profits / misc$ was going to his addiction. Bought him out of our BIZ, literally took him to cold turkey, she even when threaten me with all kinds of BS, bodily harm, send her friends, sooo funny. Called her bluff, ad she eventually found another sucker. So pitiful, I see the same with the other guy (local Biz Japanese)
My friend doing good now, open his own BIZ, good kala he making now, he know betta, I hope.
Don't know what to say, think they all in for the hunt.
Even had a couple want to hookup with me, b / see they found out through others what I did for a good living. Aole.
K
One thing though is that they treat what they do as a profession. Regardless of what it is the $ money is the main factor that keeps them there. Let's try to convert as many as possible to be good upstanding citizens.LOL. Hooked up with my first AMP girl. We have problems seeing each other cause she was honest,"I need money baby." She wasn't asking me for money cause I would have ignored her but she couldn't take off for a while because of some "debt." Don't know how true it was and I never trust woman in general unless I got references to back up what they say. Some woman feel all men are players unless they can be proven otherwise, well all woman all hoes / bitches until can be proven otherwise. The dudes falling for the cute faces and sweet attitutes when they're around are retards. (I've done it before so I ain't saying I'm some fricken genious, just too pake to let some ho steal my hard earned money)
SnatchThat
11-08-10, 07:13
I hope you were attempting to be humorous, otherwise, I feel sorry for you. Knight in shining armour syndrome yields nothing but misery for you and a lot of $ for the ho. Use the BIG head.You see it is not knight in shining amor tactic, if they crumbling under debt then let them figure it out but drop hints or clues. Other thing too is having the $ to actually make a difference but not spend it on them. That is the key. Lots of guys drop tons of dough on these girls and it is because those guys let them. I spend maybe $40 at a KB but I have to be forced to buy the drinks like I had girls twisting my arm, then I bust a 100 out and say where is my change. I hate buying drinks. But it is easy to control the girls, simply be what they can't have then they will want you. It is pretty easy. Then get them to think straight and focus on good behaviour. Why not?
Yo,
Kids, treat your buds who hook up with AMP / Bar whre like an addict. Tough love. Intervention. Do it. These whres are an addiction to some. It is what it is-once a whre, always a whre.
Jb. Interesting approach to being a dumbass. It's an addiction. It's easy to get hooked. I'm not denying that or teasing anybody; before you know it the door slams shut.
So, it is interesting reading the comments on relationships with KBGs and AMP girls. I can't imagine having a a legit relationship with an AMP girl. A KBG relationship is possible but very hard at best. Not all KBGs are money robbing wh0res. There are a few that ruin it for the rest, LOL. If you have a legit relationship with a KBG you have to catch her early or late in her career, be able to put up with a ton of crap and look the other way when it comes to lunch dates with customers. Hopefully, they are just lunch dates and nothing else. Not all KBGs will have sex with you in or out of the bar. Trust me, I have tried! Pray that she then retires before becoming a seasoned ROB and before she hardens her heart and your relationship suffers. But hey it is just as much of a gamble as any relationship with any girl, right? I have had 2 relationships with KBGs. They both went down the old toilet but for normal "bad" relationship problems and I am still friends with one of them.
Anyways, my buddy had a legit relationship with a KBG. They met outside of the bar so obviously not as a customer/hostess. She was rather shame to tell him where she worked. He did catch her early and they just seemed to click. Funny thing is he never really spent any money on her and honestly she probably spent more on him. They basically lived together for most of the last year. At any rate the relationship has gone terribly bad as of late and she has turned evil on him. Instead of just ending it she has put him through hell. He can't seem to see it and just chalks it up as a bad "patch". I see it otherwise! Remember when you were a kids and you used to hate your sibling(s) at times? You would fight like cats and dogs if another neighborhood kid dared to pick on you or your sibling(s) you would circle the wagons and defend each other to the end. Well, thats how I feel in this situation. This buddy is like a brother to me and I will not stand by while he gets his heart ripped out. Like I stated earlier it is not about money. I have done some digging and researched her background. I know her real name (s), where she has been previous to Hawaii, etc. There is a ton more I know and even have some embarrassing photos. Thing is I plan on shredding all of the info I have and forgetting about this all if she either ends this relationship peacefully or if by some miracle it does a 180 and all ends up going great. Otherwise I am sure her friends, family and the local KB and mongering communities will have an interesting read. I don't have a problem with the relationship going bad, but just him being treated badly. If it were me I would just be like,"oh well, this sucks" and tell her aloha and have a nice life. But since it is my brother, I will not let him go down without a fight.
Jasmine Smith
11-10-10, 17:27
Get involved with any of the above-referenced contractors and be ready to learn the lesson (s) of your life. Your wonderful partner will do anything and everything for money (or just for kicks) behind your back. Lies, disloyalty, and manipulation are obligatory events to be dealt with daily. Oh, and it gets better. If you let it happen.
The maggots will suck your assets dry and then go after your dignity for dessert. They'll waste you all-the-way and dump your shriveled arse for a fresher piece of meat. If you let it happen.
Kill the snake; cut off its head. No buy nekohanas; support our local vendors on furlough days. I used to be a AMP girl and I married one of my clients. He knew what my profession was and also knew I was giving it up. I was completely honest with him but he was dishonest with me. Anyways we got married and six months down the road he tells me he has to tell me something and to not be mad. So I ask him what is it and he tells me he isn't divorced yet from his first wife and that the next day is when he has to go for his divorce hearing and asks me to be his witness. We ended up going to marriage counseling But I could not forgive him so I asked him for a divorce. I walked out of that marriage with 4 dollars because I didn't want anything from him but my freedom. My Ex and I are really good friends now. So not every AMP girl is a snake or whatever you want to call it. There is a very small percentage of us that are not money hungry gold digging wh*es
I used to be a AMP girl and I married one of my clients. He knew what my profession was and also knew I was giving it up. I was completely honest with him but he was dishonest with me. Anyways we got married and six months down the road he tells me he has to tell me something and to not be mad. So I ask him what is it and he tells me he isn't divorced yet from his first wife and that the next day is when he has to go for his divorce hearing and asks me to be his witness. We ended up going to marriage counseling But I could not forgive him so I asked him for a divorce. I walked out of that marriage with 4 dollars because I didn't want anything from him but my freedom. My Ex and I are really good friends now. So not every AMP girl is a snake or whatever you want to call it. There is a very small percentage of us that are not money hungry gold digging wh*esI do not think that many people / mongers think that "every AMP girl is a snake or whatever you want to call it."
But I do think it's all about the money. Period. Any business person, be it massage joint women, buy me drinkie bars, furniture stores, cars salespeople. Their job is to seperate one from as much of their money as possible. It's all about the money.
I also don't think that these women enjoy sucking 10/12/15 guys' dicks a day either. Nor having guys kissing all over them. It's about the money. Some give great service because they know how to play the game!
Jasmine Smith
11-10-10, 20:30
I do not think that many people / mongers think that "every AMP girl is a snake or whatever you want to call it."
But I do think it's all about the money. Period. Any business person, be it massage joint women, buy me drinkie bars, furniture stores, cars salespeople. Their job is to seperate one from as much of their money as possible. It's all about the money.
I also don't think that these women enjoy sucking 10/12/15 guys' dicks a day either. Nor having guys kissing all over them. It's about the money. Some give great service because they know how to play the game! I have read the posts on this thread and all it talks about are AMP, KBG, and escorts being lying deceitful money hungry Hoes. There is always two sides to every story and while its true that most are out for what they can get from a man, think about what made them that way We as humans are not born this way. We learn it from expirence and what we observe and are taught. These women that you have in the k-bars in hawaii they must of had a couple of bad relationships with men and are thinking all men are the same so why not just use them. I'll be the first to admit that they are very very wrong to think like that and to treat the innocent men that way shows a lack of maturity and class.
That's my 2 cents
Somehow sensing the return of Bar Hostess, **********, or whatever the moniker was of that 'special' person, defender of the *s.
I have read the posts on this thread and all it talks about are AMP, KBG, and escorts being lying deceitful money hungry Hoes. There is always two sides to every story and while its true that most are out for what they can get from a man, think about what made them that way We as humans are not born this way. We learn it from expirence and what we observe and are taught. These women that you have in the k-bars in hawaii they must of had a couple of bad relationships with men and are thinking all men are the same so why not just use them. I'll be the first to admit that they are very very wrong to think like that and to treat the innocent men that way shows a lack of maturity and class.
That's my 2 centsJasmine. Sorry to hear, about your marraige experience. Just goes to show you that us mongers are not totally.
Trustworthy! Maybe we are married and do lie about it. Just shows that you shouldn't fall for us!
Us mongers do love our KBG's and prostitutes and I believe we should keep this relationship a strictly business.
One. Simply because it is business and not a GF or a wife type relationship! I prefer to keep it at arms length!
Since no problems arise from these "arms length" relationships! It would be just crazy to have to chose between
Wives and prostitutes! Some would even chose their prostitutes, if she would quit the game! I would have at one time!
Waikikian
Jasmine Smith
11-11-10, 11:45
Somehow sensing the return of Bar Hostess, **********, or whatever the moniker was of that 'special' person, defender of the *s.I have never worked in a Korean Bar, but I did have some friends that did. My point is there is the good and the bad in every nationality or even in the case of you Hobbyist and us providers.
In the case that happened to me when I first started working. A client walked in and requested a girl with long hair. I was unfortunately the only one with hair that long so I went in. He didn't want to shower or get a massage he only wanted a BJ which was ok with me I then left the room to go get a cover for his junior but unknown to me this guy had brought in a pair of very sharp sisscors that he hid under the mattress and while I was doing the BJ he wound my hair on one of his hands and cut off all my hair when I felt my head was lite I looked up as he was about to stab me in the neck. I wrestled the sissors away from him. I ended up beating him up and throwing him out naked. I learned from him and few others like him that not every hobbyist is a good guy that just wants to bust a nut and get out. I also realized that I shouldn't take out my resentment on the rest of the hobbyist just because of a few nut jobs I had the bad luck to encounter.
A lot of girls I know have had similar dealings with hobbyist and even some I knew have been killed by their clients.
So when you state on here that we are all evil from a few bad dealings with the Korean working girl Then can we The Korean working can say all you hobbyist are all bad too. You have to think it goes both ways
I have never worked in a Korean Bar, but I did have some friends that did. My point is there is the good and the bad in every nationality or even in the case of you Hobbyist and us providers.
In the case that happened to me when I first started working. A client walked in and requested a girl with long hair. I was unfortunately the only one with hair that long so I went in. He didn't want to shower or get a massage he only wanted a BJ which was ok with me I then left the room to go get a cover for his junior but unknown to me this guy had brought in a pair of very sharp sisscors that he hid under the mattress and while I was doing the BJ he wound my hair on one of his hands and cut off all my hair when I felt my head was lite I looked up as he was about to stab me in the neck. I wrestled the sissors away from him. I ended up beating him up and throwing him out naked. I learned from him and few others like him that not every hobbyist is a good guy that just wants to bust a nut and get out. I also realized that I shouldn't take out my resentment on the rest of the hobbyist just because of a few nut jobs I had the bad luck to encounter.
A lot of girls I know have had similar dealings with hobbyist and even some I knew have been killed by their clients.
So when you state on here that we are all evil from a few bad dealings with the Korean working girl Then can we The Korean working can say all you hobbyist are all bad too. You have to think it goes both waysI don't know if you've ever been to Korea, but the women who work in the bars or as providers are out to get as much money for any / all customers. It doesn't matter who it is. The Korean culture is very different from any other. There is a lot of putting on a nice face infront of someone even if you don't like the person. As soon as U-turn around, the dirty talking starts. I spent a month in Korea for an exercise and we hit some bars and hooked up with some of the women. It was cheap and a lot of fun. Of course, they have all the intel on when the visitors are leaving and the all have their standard sob story to tell. When time was getting short, all the girls that my buddies and I hooked up with gave us the story of owing mamasan a lot of money. They asked us to help pay her off so that they could go back to their home and families instead of having to work in the bar.
I don't know how it is in Alabama, but with the huge Korean influence in Hawaii, the women conduct themselves similar to how it goes in Korea. If they truly like someone, they'll do almost anything to please. I've been married to two Korean women and they were / are a little different from the run of the mill AMP / KB woman. On the money side, making money is very important. They were not truly honest about how much money they made. At times, they did contribute to the normal everyday home expenses. Overall, they usually think they should come first.
The guys on this forum have many years of experience with the women in the bars and know the behavior of these women very well. You should come to Hawaii and visit and maybe work in a Korean bar or MP to really get the flavor of what it's really like. I know that there are Koreans in Alabama, but not near the numbers as there are in CA, NV and Hi. They are a very tight community and will support their own before other. That is a good thing. They are not all bad, it's just the way things are done in Korea. Money talks and BS walks.
I don't know if you've ever been to Korea, but the women who work in the bars or as providers are out to get as much money for any / all customers. It doesn't matter who it is. The Korean culture is very different from any other. There is a lot of putting on a nice face infront of someone even if you don't like the person. As soon as U-turn around, the dirty talking starts. I spent a month in Korea for an exercise and we hit some bars and hooked up with some of the women. It was cheap and a lot of fun. Of course, they have all the intel on when the visitors are leaving and the all have their standard sob story to tell. When time was getting short, all the girls that my buddies and I hooked up with gave us the story of owing mamasan a lot of money. They asked us to help pay her off so that they could go back to their home and families instead of having to work in the bar.
I don't know how it is in Alabama, but with the huge Korean influence in Hawaii, the women conduct themselves similar to how it goes in Korea. If they truly like someone, they'll do almost anything to please. I've been married to two Korean women and they were / are a little different from the run of the mill AMP / KB woman. On the money side, making money is very important. They were not truly honest about how much money they made. At times, they did contribute to the normal everyday home expenses. Overall, they usually think they should come first.
The guys on this forum have many years of experience with the women in the bars and know the behavior of these women very well. You should come to Hawaii and visit and maybe work in a Korean bar or MP to really get the flavor of what it's really like. I know that there are Koreans in Alabama, but not near the numbers as there are in CA, NV and Hi. They are a very tight community and will support their own before other. That is a good thing. They are not all bad, it's just the way things are done in Korea. Money talks and BS walks. Talking stink behind people's backs is asian culture in general, not only Koreans. Actually growing up I thought the Koreans were the most blunt and honest while the japanese hid what they felt and it came out once you were gone. I ain't Korean, but of course several of my friends growing up were. As for money hungry, they all are. I've dealt Vietnamese, (my first hot sex was with a viet MILF) , Chinese, they all are money hungry, but why are most AMP and bgs in hawaii korean? They got brothels everywhere in the world but in hawaii its the koreans generally and the majority tell me they came from LA. Off topic but is there a korean mafia that finds these girls and agrees to get them out of korea and into america for a price and they need to work it off? You only see the girls and the mamasan but where are the owners? I always felt safe in the AMPs so I don't know, maybe cause I never cause trouble and I support them with my money.
Jasmine Smith
11-12-10, 12:05
I don't know if you've ever been to Korea, but the women who work in the bars or as providers are out to get as much money for any / all customers. It doesn't matter who it is. The Korean culture is very different from any other. There is a lot of putting on a nice face infront of someone even if you don't like the person. As soon as U-turn around, the dirty talking starts. I spent a month in Korea for an exercise and we hit some bars and hooked up with some of the women. It was cheap and a lot of fun. Of course, they have all the intel on when the visitors are leaving and the all have their standard sob story to tell. When time was getting short, all the girls that my buddies and I hooked up with gave us the story of owing mamasan a lot of money. They asked us to help pay her off so that they could go back to their home and families instead of having to work in the bar.
I don't know how it is in Alabama, but with the huge Korean influence in Hawaii, the women conduct themselves similar to how it goes in Korea. If they truly like someone, they'll do almost anything to please. I've been married to two Korean women and they were / are a little different from the run of the mill AMP / KB woman. On the money side, making money is very important. They were not truly honest about how much money they made. At times, they did contribute to the normal everyday home expenses. Overall, they usually think they should come first.
The guys on this forum have many years of experience with the women in the bars and know the behavior of these women very well. You should come to Hawaii and visit and maybe work in a Korean bar or MP to really get the flavor of what it's really like. I know that there are Koreans in Alabama, but not near the numbers as there are in CA, NV and Hi. They are a very tight community and will support their own before other. That is a good thing. They are not all bad, it's just the way things are done in Korea. Money talks and BS walks. I know a lot women married and unmarried from all races and cultures. Women in general can be very catty they talk to their friends about their husbands and boyfriends and what they do and don't do for them. They talk crap about their friends and in general like to gossip. On another note think about when you first start to date some girl. You spend money on them to dinner / movie or whatever, they in turn doll themselves up for you. Guys do this because they might think they're going to get some tail. And women do it to look for a potential mate. So if you generalize it then all women can be considered Ho's. Not just the ones in the industry.
i know a lot women married and unmarried from all races and cultures. women in general can be very catty they talk to their friends about their husbands and boyfriends and what they do and don't do for them. they talk crap about their friends and in general like to gossip. on another note think about when you first start to date some girl. you spend money on them to dinner / movie or whatever, they in turn doll themselves up for you. guys do this because they might think they're going to get some tail. and women do it to look for a potential mate. so if you generalize it then all women can be considered ho's. not just the ones in the industry.i agree with both of you and am not judging the women because of what they do or where they come from. as a matter of fact men do some of the same things that women do. we tend to gossip about different people and things. most of the things we do come from the environment we live in. we do thing in different ways but yet achieve similar goals. the only reason i refer to the korean women is because my experience has basically been with them. of course i've dated and had relationships with women of many races, but its been predominantly korean. i don't like calling women in the business ho's. it's just a job that they've chosen. contrary to what many people think, i truly feel that people in the business provide a valuable service. of course it is not a victimless. i wouldn't condone **** kids or people forced into human trafficing.
Local guys = money.
Money = LV bag, Rolex watcheeee, Mercedes, BMW, Channel stuff, etc.
Therefore, Local guys help support the economy! So don't say that going to the bar and AMP don't help the state!
Also,
Bar / AMP chick = bad wifey / girfriend.
Therefore, Bar / AMP chick is good for short term use only.
Use them before they use us.
For some reason, God made Korean women look better than most. It was probably to make up for the uglyness that they have inside.
I once had a KBG girlfriend who complained to me about eating junk food but yet she smoked a pack of cigs a day and drank like a fish. Duh! Look in the mirror *****!
I once had a KBG who complained about having to work to support her gambling habit. Toughshit *****!
I once had a KBG who complained that working at a bar was tooooo mucheeee stress. Bullshitbitch! You don't know what hard work is, because you been a hoe all your life and did not do a thing to help society. You only sucked off the system and failed to pay all your fricken taxes!
There is never a perfect KBG. They drink, smoke, are materialistic hoes, gamble, like to act like princess, like to act rich off of other guys money, think they are better but are really trash, and just plain selfish.
So, make a choice; nice legs, nice tits, nice puss, pretty face. Or. Live with peace of mind with some dog face local chick. What the f*k!
Solution, go to bars and AMPs just to get puss and tits and keep your distance.
Because a Korean is like a worst nightmare with the best sex eva!
Local guys = money.
Money = LV bag, Rolex watcheeee, Mercedes, BMW, Channel stuff, etc.
Therefore, Local guys help support the economy! So don't say that going to the bar and AMP don't help the state!
Also,
Bar / AMP chick = bad wifey / girfriend.
Therefore, Bar / AMP chick is good for short term use only.
Use them before they use us.
For some reason, God made Korean women look better than most. It was probably to make up for the uglyness that they have inside.
I once had a KBG girlfriend who complained to me about eating junk food but yet she smoked a pack of cigs a day and drank like a fish. Duh! Look in the mirror *
I once had a KBG who complained about having to work to support her gambling habit. Toughshit *
I once had a KBG who complained that working at a bar was tooooo mucheeee stress. Bullshitbitch! You don't know what hard work is, because you been a hoe all your life and did not do a thing to help society. You only sucked off the system and failed to pay all your fricken taxes!
There is never a perfect KBG. They drink, smoke, are materialistic hoes, gamble, like to act like princess, like to act rich off of other guys money, think they are better but are really trash, and just plain selfish.
So, make a choice; nice legs, nice tits, nice puss, pretty face. Or. Live with peace of mind with some dog face local chick. What the f*k!
Solution, go to bars and AMPs just to get puss and tits and keep your distance.
Because a Korean is like a worst nightmare with the best sex eva! This should have been the first post in this thread! All the rants before this are summed up here.
Local guys = money.
Money = LV bag, Rolex watcheeee, Mercedes, BMW, Channel stuff, etc.
Therefore, Local guys help support the economy! So don't say that going to the bar and AMP don't help the state!
Also,
Bar / AMP chick = bad wifey / girfriend.
Therefore, Bar / AMP chick is good for short term use only.
Use them before they use us.
For some reason, God made Korean women look better than most. It was probably to make up for the uglyness that they have inside.
I once had a KBG girlfriend who complained to me about eating junk food but yet she smoked a pack of cigs a day and drank like a fish. Duh! Look in the mirror *
I once had a KBG who complained about having to work to support her gambling habit. Toughshit *
I once had a KBG who complained that working at a bar was tooooo mucheeee stress. Bullshitbitch! You don't know what hard work is, because you been a hoe all your life and did not do a thing to help society. You only sucked off the system and failed to pay all your fricken taxes!
There is never a perfect KBG. They drink, smoke, are materialistic hoes, gamble, like to act like princess, like to act rich off of other guys money, think they are better but are really trash, and just plain selfish.
So, make a choice; nice legs, nice tits, nice puss, pretty face. Or. Live with peace of mind with some dog face local chick. What the f*k!
Solution, go to bars and AMPs just to get puss and tits and keep your distance.
Because a Korean is like a worst nightmare with the best sex eva! Preach braddah H, Preach it.
Should be part of the KBG Commandments
Local guys = money.
Money = LV bag, Rolex watcheeee, Mercedes, BMW, Channel stuff, etc.
Therefore, Local guys help support the economy! So don't say that going to the bar and AMP don't help the state!
Also,
Bar / AMP chick = bad wifey / girfriend.
Therefore, Bar / AMP chick is good for short term use only.
Use them before they use us.
For some reason, God made Korean women look better than most. It was probably to make up for the uglyness that they have inside.
I once had a KBG girlfriend who complained to me about eating junk food but yet she smoked a pack of cigs a day and drank like a fish. Duh! Look in the mirror *
I once had a KBG who complained about having to work to support her gambling habit. Toughshit *
I once had a KBG who complained that working at a bar was tooooo mucheeee stress. Bullshitbitch! You don't know what hard work is, because you been a hoe all your life and did not do a thing to help society. You only sucked off the system and failed to pay all your fricken taxes!
There is never a perfect KBG. They drink, smoke, are materialistic hoes, gamble, like to act like princess, like to act rich off of other guys money, think they are better but are really trash, and just plain selfish.
So, make a choice; nice legs, nice tits, nice puss, pretty face. Or. Live with peace of mind with some dog face local chick. What the f*k!
Solution, go to bars and AMPs just to get puss and tits and keep your distance.
Because a Korean is like a worst nightmare with the best sex eva! I concur 100. Good job.
Hellokitty
11-13-10, 21:26
Yo,
Too many of my buds burned bad in past. ONly on still married, but he has to move every three years because his house not nice enough. Proud to say I saved my broker bud couple yrs ago from certain major pain. Even after the "realtor AMP whre" took him for major $ (more than I make in 3 months, he still wanted to hook up with her. Sat him down and showed him court records of her DUI, her money source "sugar daddies" when she lived on mainland (she had no employment record, and all of her name changes (many aliases, addresses, and kid she abandoned on mainland. Even showed him the stories about her "family trouble" and needing money bogus-no records (how many times have we heard that line from the girls, eh-I need money to help my mama, my sister, my father, etc. Also showed him PM's from other mongers who were banging her in Koreamoku AMPs-they all recognize her from her business card with photo on it. Reality check. Use all your resources. I did. It worked. I hear the realtor AMP whre married another broker within 5 mo of his break up-feel soory for the other guy because obviously he didn't do his homework.
Same old story. They come from a messed up past far away, Hawaii is good because the Korean community is smaller, and they can prey on the locals and military, there is more aloha here. She is a compulsive liar, so good because she believes her own lies. Tried to warn my bud, one of the husbands, but look now, divorced and no longer head of the company. The money she took is nothing compared to the spirit she took out of him, now he no like work. She is the devil himself in the form of a Ho. We got to do a better job to spread the Word, do not let KBG / AMP girl into your heart, enjoy the hunt and play fair, but always cum out on top.
Jasmine Smith
11-13-10, 23:12
Such is life, Jasmine!
It's just that, at times we tend to let our guard down, when we shouldn't! This is what teaches us lessons!
We should simply be "on guard" and vigilent, for these unscrupulous ladies and in the case of you ladies,
Unscrupulous men. If we treat everybody with contempt, we will be disliked by everyone! Not to mention,
Being a person we ourselves dislike!
We have to just forget about the past and look both ways, when we do decide to cross that thoroughfare!
025 centsI know many of you have heard that old saying of two wrongs don't make it right. Just as hate breeds hate. There is no such thing as a perfect human. Everybody makes mistakes and in one form or another ends up hurting someone else. For me I realized it takes too much energy to really hate someone or another race. Plus your bodies physical reactions to all the pent up resentments and anger are just not healthy. You end up with high blood pressure and what not. On a side note I don't gamble or drink and I pay my taxes because I'm a certified massage therapist. I don't own any expensive watches or handbag. I pay back my community by donating to support our troops and toys for tots plus other various charities that I think are worthwhile
Doing a couple of USFK "short" tours, for some reason, on my first tour, I was "recruited" by my section 1st sarge to "counsel" command personnel who were in "serious" relationships with Korean nationals. I'd talk to both the g. I. And whoever he was going to marry. After that, whenever I went back, it was my "duty" to maintain this "position." Anyway, you'd have to figure that at least 80% of these marriages were to bargirls and hookers (which includes the coffee shop girls, barbershop girls, fluffers, etc.). I found that the majority of those that got married were very young and because of their immaturiy, they were infatuated with the attention they were receiving by these women (which happened worldwide anyway). The extra attention not only affected the younger men but the older men who got married to these women too. One would think that it was a matter of these men being "lonely" but from my experience it was more than that, there was a major financial outlay necessary to get the bargirl or hooker away from the establishment as these girls were "working" there because of some kind of debt owed by themselves or their family to finance lenders (who was generally the mob. Local, regional, national or otherwise). These women are forcefully separated from their family to satisfy a huge financial debt. This debt was a few thousand dollars, not to much by today's standard but figure an E-3 made about $700-800 (I forget) base pay at that time. Most of these men thought that by "bailing" these gals out, the gals "owed" them. Due to the nature of their "job", from a very young age, these girls are hardened from the forced separation from their family, the fact that the family knows what she does for a living but "pretends" that she is employed in another field, and the very nature of the woman's job itself (push drinkee, push short time, long time before closing, come see me again, etc. ; the use of sex and affection to manipulation the male) , this is the instability inherent in their character. This is what they've learned and have been trained to do. These are the same women here now, probably divorced or "separated" from their g. I. Or former g. I. Spouse, the children remain in the spouse's custody, visit once a year or so, etc. Why? The pressures of returning stateside and the disappearance of the infatuation hits (reality). Differences in lifestyle, cultural, even practical (learning conversational english, driving, American cooking, cost of living changes, etc.) skills often contribute to the increased demands and stresses."Abandoned" again, these women return to what they know best. What Un Holy preaches is rather brash and direct but what he says is true.
Yo,
Amazing how similar the realtor hoe "twins" are.
Both about same age, same height, weight, body type (personally, Mikki face is much more attractive) , have kids (at least Mikki didn't hide or abandon hers) , compulsive and very good at lying-very good.
Both took big money (and I mean big) from past partners and killed their spirit. Not good.
Kids, its not all bad-one of my buds married a kbg, and is still married 9 years later. She was 24 when she married, and never looked back-though she still had kb and AMP friends-I forked some of them :) hehe another story. Oh, and he moves house every 3 years-to "nicer" place. Of course, there is more to this story, for another day.
Too many of my buds ended up on short end. This is just a friendly reminder that the game is always on. Pay, play, move on. Be smart, be safe.
Jb
Same old story. They come from a messed up past far away, Hawaii is good because the Korean community is smaller, and they can prey on the locals and military, there is more aloha here. She is a compulsive liar, so good because she believes her own lies. Tried to warn my bud, one of the husbands, but look now, divorced and no longer head of the company. The money she took is nothing compared to the spirit she took out of him, now he no like work. She is the devil himself in the form of a Ho. We got to do a better job to spread the Word, do not let KBG / AMP girl into your heart, enjoy the hunt and play fair, but always cum out on top.
Local guys = money.
Money = LV bag, Rolex watcheeee, Mercedes, BMW, Channel stuff, etc.
Therefore, Local guys help support the economy! So don't say that going to the bar and AMP don't help the state!
Also,
Bar / AMP chick = bad wifey / girfriend.
Therefore, Bar / AMP chick is good for short term use only.
Use them before they use us.
For some reason, God made Korean women look better than most. It was probably to make up for the uglyness that they have inside.
I once had a KBG girlfriend who complained to me about eating junk food but yet she smoked a pack of cigs a day and drank like a fish. Duh! Look in the mirror *
I once had a KBG who complained about having to work to support her gambling habit. Toughshit *
I once had a KBG who complained that working at a bar was tooooo mucheeee stress. Bullshitbitch! You don't know what hard work is, because you been a hoe all your life and did not do a thing to help society. You only sucked off the system and failed to pay all your fricken taxes!
There is never a perfect KBG. They drink, smoke, are materialistic hoes, gamble, like to act like princess, like to act rich off of other guys money, think they are better but are really trash, and just plain selfish.
So, make a choice; nice legs, nice tits, nice puss, pretty face. Or. Live with peace of mind with some dog face local chick. What the f*k!
Solution, go to bars and AMPs just to get puss and tits and keep your distance.
Because a Korean is like a worst nightmare with the best sex eva! Unholy for President of the Mongering Nation, you got my vote bro, you always tell it like it is!
Local guys = money.
Money = LV bag, Rolex watcheeee, Mercedes, BMW, Channel stuff, etc.
Therefore, Local guys help support the economy! So don't say that going to the bar and AMP don't help the state!
Also,
Bar / AMP chick = bad wifey / girfriend.
Therefore, Bar / AMP chick is good for short term use only.
Use them before they use us.
For some reason, God made Korean women look better than most. It was probably to make up for the uglyness that they have inside.
I once had a KBG girlfriend who complained to me about eating junk food but yet she smoked a pack of cigs a day and drank like a fish. Duh! Look in the mirror *
I once had a KBG who complained about having to work to support her gambling habit. Toughshit *
I once had a KBG who complained that working at a bar was tooooo mucheeee stress. Bullshitbitch! You don't know what hard work is, because you been a hoe all your life and did not do a thing to help society. You only sucked off the system and failed to pay all your fricken taxes!
There is never a perfect KBG. They drink, smoke, are materialistic hoes, gamble, like to act like princess, like to act rich off of other guys money, think they are better but are really trash, and just plain selfish.
So, make a choice; nice legs, nice tits, nice puss, pretty face. Or. Live with peace of mind with some dog face local chick. What the f*k!
Solution, go to bars and AMPs just to get puss and tits and keep your distance.
Because a Korean is like a worst nightmare with the best sex eva! To me the whole point of this is, don't be stupid. Keep your wits and don't let the bottom head dictate your actions. I for one have made some great friendships with these girls, straight up honest for the most part but weary when they trying to find out what I own for obvious reasons. If I see one dating an old dude, of course I'm 99. 9% sure what's going on, he's taking care of her and I hope he got his wits about him but if not, his fault, should have known what you're messing with. I once gave a woman 6 gs (for the new special Pink rate that equals out to about 60 visits) to take care of her Mercedes, what a dumbass, I cared about her and knew her personally for years, lesson learned and now that I am much more affluent, that amount didn't hurt me but I learned how some woman treat guys as personal atm machines even ones they've known for a while with sob stories. I pity the fool whom marries one he never checked out and ends up losing much much more than 6 grand, but half his home along with his spirit. And I'm not only referring to Koreans but all woman in general! Saying all Korean AMPs / kbgs are scum is like all the AMP girls / kbg saying all mongers are assholes who need to be taken advantage of at any turn by any means necessary.
Jasmine Smith
11-15-10, 14:22
I truly am sorry that most of the men on this thread have been used and abused by my fellow coworkers. It actually makes me feel ashamed to be a Korean working girl when I hear stories like these. I do know that the stories I've read here are the norm. For most areas in the country and I myself have had similar dealings with a lot of AMP and Kbg girls. I would say that out of 100, 90% are like the girls that you talk about and maybe 10% are actually decent people. I'm not up here defending every AMP / kbg girl Only the ones who are decent. I've had many clients tell me they want to find an Asian girlfriend and I always tell them to find a nice girl outside of the AMPs because I know that most of the girls are already so bitter and angry with the male species and think all men are dogs. They are not going to give any guy a chance for a real relationship only going to use them. But once in a while you do find a girl that men like to call a diamond in the rough.
MammieJammer
11-15-10, 21:35
Getting burned in what we would like to believe is a romantic situation never feels good. But I have to say that anyone gullible enough to put themselves in a position to be used for financial exploitation either by a working girl or by someone in the so-called real world is either very young or not thinking clearly. Remember the old song about the woman who found a poor frozen snake and took it in to warm it up and give it aid. Well it bit her, saying, you knew full well that I was a snake before you took me in. Be careful guys. But don't be so jaded and bitter that you can't see a person for what they are. Even in the world away from The AMP's and Bars it's very hard to find a person who's honest and decent to spend time with. MJ
Getting burned in what we would like to believe is a romantic situation never feels good. But I have to say that anyone gullible enough to put themselves in a position to be used for financial exploitation either by a working girl or by someone in the so-called real world is either very young or not thinking clearly. Remember the old song about the woman who found a poor frozen snake and took it in to warm it up and give it aid. Well it bit her, saying, you knew full well that I was a snake before you took me in. Be careful guys. But don't be so jaded and bitter that you can't see a person for what they are. Even in the world away from The AMP's and Bars it's very hard to find a person who's honest and decent to spend time with. MJVery cynical observation.
Unfortunately, probably accurate for most of us.
D.
CheapCharlie
11-16-10, 08:26
Getting burned in what we would like to believe is a romantic situation never feels good. But I have to say that anyone gullible enough to put themselves in a position to be used for financial exploitation either by a working girl or by someone in the so-called real world is either very young or not thinking clearly. Remember the old song about the woman who found a poor frozen snake and took it in to warm it up and give it aid. Well it bit her, saying, you knew full well that I was a snake before you took me in. Be careful guys. But don't be so jaded and bitter that you can't see a person for what they are. Even in the world away from The AMP's and Bars it's very hard to find a person who's honest and decent to spend time with. MJAmen brother!
Getting burned in what we would like to believe is a romantic situation never feels good. But I have to say that anyone gullible enough to put themselves in a position to be used for financial exploitation either by a working girl or by someone in the so-called real world is either very young or not thinking clearly. Remember the old song about the woman who found a poor frozen snake and took it in to warm it up and give it aid. Well it bit her, saying, you knew full well that I was a snake before you took me in. Be careful guys. But don't be so jaded and bitter that you can't see a person for what they are. Even in the world away from The AMP's and Bars it's very hard to find a person who's honest and decent to spend time with. MJThis what to do and what I do when I meet these girls. Before I go in, I put in my wallet only what I'm going to spend nothing more and take out everything but my drivers license. Its easy to get lost in their beauty and not think straight. If you're dating them, I suggest bringing only what you will be willing to spend on them that night with you and again, leave the credit cards and shit at home. If you are nuts enough to let them live with you, then sorry but you're vulnerable and I hope you went get to know her real well.
I truly am sorry that most of the men on this thread have been used and abused by my fellow coworkers. It actually makes me feel ashamed to be a Korean working girl when I hear stories like these. I do know that the stories I've read here are the norm. For most areas in the country and I myself have had similar dealings with a lot of AMP and Kbg girls. I would say that out of 100, 90% are like the girls that you talk about and maybe 10% are actually decent people. I'm not up here defending every AMP / kbg girl Only the ones who are decent. I've had many clients tell me they want to find an Asian girlfriend and I always tell them to find a nice girl outside of the AMPs because I know that most of the girls are already so bitter and angry with the male species and think all men are dogs. They are not going to give any guy a chance for a real relationship only going to use them. But once in a while you do find a girl that men like to call a diamond in the rough.That's alright Jasmine. The man is also to blame. He got to have some common sense. Whether she is a BG, AMP girl or a girl you meet outside of the bar, a man can get used and taken advantage also. What's messed up is when he is warned by his friends or others yet, he doesn't heed the advice. When a man is lonely, needy and desperate, they don't think clearly and they put caution aside. Most guys are desperate that they willing to take the chance because their current lifestyle may not be all that exciting. Or, they want more excitement to come into their life. So, even if a guy has some idea of the possibility of being used or burned by a KBG, AMP girl etc. He willing to take the chance at it. If not, it's the same old same old routine anyways. Some guys no mind paying for it as it's a change to their current routine and lifestyle. It's also an escape from the stress they having at work, personal issues etc. Some are able to put their foot down and draw the line when things get out of hand while others are in denial or just blinded to even realize that they are being used. We too busy enjoying how good she looks, smiles, hearing her voice and the physical part. We just caught up enjoying that moment and not really looking at and thinking about the possible consequences that lies ahead.
That's alright Jasmine. The man is also to blame. He got to have some common sense. Whether she is a BG, AMP girl or a girl you meet outside of the bar, a man can get used and taken advantage also. What's messed up is when he is warned by his friends or others yet, he doesn't heed the advice. When a man is lonely, needy and desperate, they don't think clearly and they put caution aside. Most guys are desperate that they willing to take the chance because their current lifestyle may not be all that exciting. Or, they want more excitement to come into their life. So, even if a guy has some idea of the possibility of being used or burned by a KBG, AMP girl etc. He willing to take the chance at it. If not, it's the same old same old routine anyways. Some guys no mind paying for it as it's a change to their current routine and lifestyle. It's also an escape from the stress they having at work, personal issues etc. Some are able to put their foot down and draw the line when things get out of hand while others are in denial or just blinded to even realize that they are being used. We too busy enjoying how good she looks, smiles, hearing her voice and the physical part. We just caught up enjoying that moment and not really looking at and thinking about the possible consequences that lies ahead.Been there, done that. There is no fool like an old fool, as has been said many times.
You guys should take this advice SERIOUSLY. I wish I had.
D.
I am the starter of this thread, not Admin. They took it away from me when I said stuff they did not like and changed it to an "Admin" thread. But its their call so be it.
I continue to spread the word of truth about the Korean's in the bars and AMPs in Hawaii. If you don't believe me then read the starter posts to this thread. It has been changed around and stuff has been taken out by Jackson, but thats cool because he the boss.
I am the starter of this thread, not Admin. They took it away from me when I said stuff they did not like and changed it to an "Admin" thread. But its their call so be it.
I continue to spread the word of truth about the Korean's in the bars and AMPs in Hawaii. If you don't believe me then read the starter posts to this thread. It has been changed around and stuff has been taken out by Jackson, but thats cool because he the boss. I can confirm that. Unholy is the one who started this thread. And yes, he tells it like it is.
I am the starter of this thread, not Admin. They took it away from me when I said stuff they did not like and changed it to an "Admin" thread. But its their call so be it.
I continue to spread the word of truth about the Korean's in the bars and AMPs in Hawaii. If you don't believe me then read the starter posts to this thread. It has been changed around and stuff has been taken out by Jackson, but thats cool because he the boss. Oh, that's the reason. At the time, I asked you about it but you were unsure. Maybe it was too soon, sorry man.
Member #4374
11-21-10, 13:42
Why don't we have younger Korean hoes here in Hawaii? We get the expired leftovers from Seoul and K-town-Cali most of the time. Don't get me wrong, I'm happy with the 7 (Sakura) and Nirvana bitches likethat, but just becuz I like driving Acuras doesn't mean I don't want to upgrade to Mercedes.
Why don't we have younger Korean hoes here in Hawaii? We get the expired leftovers from Seoul and K-town-Cali most of the time. Don't get me wrong, I'm happy with the 7 (Sakura) and Nirvana bitches likethat, but just becuz I like driving Acuras doesn't mean I don't want to upgrade to Mercedes.Not sure what you mean? 7 and Sukura girls are pretty young, well most of them. They qualify as younger korean "working girls" to me. Pink has a 22 year old girl working there named June. Yes they are from out of state but this island is small, to be honest would freak me out if some girl I hung out in high school was working in one of the AMPs. Would ruin the effect and be embarassing. They chicks better for the no strings attached thing most guys go to a Korean working girl for.
I truly am sorry that most of the men on this thread have been used and abused by my fellow coworkers. It actually makes me feel ashamed to be a Korean working girl when I hear stories like these. I do know that the stories I've read here are the norm. For most areas in the country and I myself have had similar dealings with a lot of AMP and Kbg girls. I would say that out of 100, 90% are like the girls that you talk about and maybe 10% are actually decent people. I'm not up here defending every AMP / kbg girl Only the ones who are decent. I've had many clients tell me they want to find an Asian girlfriend and I always tell them to find a nice girl outside of the AMPs because I know that most of the girls are already so bitter and angry with the male species and think all men are dogs. They are not going to give any guy a chance for a real relationship only going to use them. But once in a while you do find a girl that men like to call a diamond in the rough.Reason why they're probly soo few decent people doing it is, Korean working girls are selling their body for dollars. That in itself will change alot of good girl's mentalities quickly into seeing men as atm machine and not a person. If I suck it up and sleep with this dude, I'll get quick money.
Jasmine Smith
11-22-10, 19:10
I once knew a Korean women who said she had owned a AMP or a bar in Honolulu called the New Yorker. Was there really a place called that. I'm just curious to see if she lied to me or not.
I once knew a Korean women who said she had owned a AMP or a bar in Honolulu called the New Yorker. Was there really a place called that. I'm just curious to see if she lied to me or not.Yes. There was an AMP years ago that was called The New Yorker.
I once knew a Korean women who said she had owned a AMP or a bar in Honolulu called the New Yorker. Was there really a place called that. I'm just curious to see if she lied to me or not.I believe her name started with a B. Others new her as B. B. LOL.
Yes. There was an AMP years ago that was called The New Yorker.One weekend night the lobby was packed with guys. The ms was going ape-shit trying to accomodate the crowd!
Jasmine Smith
11-23-10, 01:08
Yes. There was an AMP years ago that was called The New Yorker.At least there is one thing she didn't lie about. Of course she could have lied about owning it. I just realized that the two AMP owners who conned me out of money were both from Hawaii
SnatchThat
11-23-10, 05:17
I truly am sorry that most of the men on this thread have been used and abused by my fellow coworkers. It actually makes me feel ashamed to be a Korean working girl when I hear stories like these. I do know that the stories I've read here are the norm. For most areas in the country and I myself have had similar dealings with a lot of AMP and Kbg girls. I would say that out of 100, 90% are like the girls that you talk about and maybe 10% are actually decent people. I'm not up here defending every AMP / kbg girl Only the ones who are decent. I've had many clients tell me they want to find an Asian girlfriend and I always tell them to find a nice girl outside of the AMPs because I know that most of the girls are already so bitter and angry with the male species and think all men are dogs. They are not going to give any guy a chance for a real relationship only going to use them. But once in a while you do find a girl that men like to call a diamond in the rough.
Getting burned in what we would like to believe is a romantic situation never feels good. But I have to say that anyone gullible enough to put themselves in a position to be used for financial exploitation either by a working girl or by someone in the so-called real world is either very young or not thinking clearly. Remember the old song about the woman who found a poor frozen snake and took it in to warm it up and give it aid. Well it bit her, saying, you knew full well that I was a snake before you took me in. Be careful guys. But don't be so jaded and bitter that you can't see a person for what they are. Even in the world away from The AMP's and Bars it's very hard to find a person who's honest and decent to spend time with. MJIn all relationships it takes time, that is all that needs to be expressed. When a girl or guy is presenting a situation that might seem believable, it is a matter of time that determines what will be the outcome. All you have to do is wait. That is the secret. If a girl or guy says I need X amount of dollars and you been dating less than a month, than you should inquire why do you need it. If questions follow like do you have it or not? Just say it is not liquid. I could pull it out but that would incurr fees. Find out more about the situation but ultimately time is the answer, if she doesn't wait around then she or he is hussling that is why it is called hussling. The amount of time that you have to get things done. Regardless if it is love at first sight and what not if she or he be presenting a financial matter within a unreasonable amount of time then that is what matters. I know people that have never brought up money as an issue. Well that is the words of wisdom, only fools rush in. So don't be foolish just wait, if he or she doesn't hang around becasue time is a wasting well you have your answer. If they still hang around and the issue doesn't get resolved than that is cool just the same so be happy. Only haste makes waste. Another addage. So wait and don't take the bait. Time is on our side if they can't hang then that is our answer. Don't get taken when the simple secret is time.
Member #4374
11-23-10, 16:49
I just mean those model looking kind of Korean hoes I've seen on vacation. A lot of the Sakura hoes are like early 30s. However, I never got to see the "goddess" Chanel yet.
Not sure what you mean? 7 and Sukura girls are pretty young, well most of them. They qualify as younger korean "working girls" to me. Pink has a 22 year old girl working there named June. Yes they are from out of state but this island is small, to be honest would freak me out if some girl I hung out in high school was working in one of the AMPs. Would ruin the effect and be embarassing. They chicks better for the no strings attached thing most guys go to a Korean working girl for.
I just mean those model looking kind of Korean hoes I've seen on vacation. A lot of the Sakura hoes are like early 30s. However, I never got to see the "goddess" Chanel yet.I wouldn't say chanels a goddess maybe a 7 or 8 but a definite 10 in service. I mean she's hot but not broke neck kine.
Let me tell you about a recent trip to an AMP. I'm going to keep it a little general but it won't ruin the meaning. Well anyway this is about a certain provider whom knows how to make a monger feel good and I'm sure this pertains to alot of them. She's great very pleasing and everything no problems. So of course after seeing her several times you get curious as to who she really is trade cell numbers etc. Thats when you really know if this whole thing is an illusion or not. So anyways decided to talk more than fuck with this provider was full of sweet lies, telling me she only does this for type of thing for me (trying to make me feel special but girl don't know I read the reviews on her LOL) , tried to make like she was a good girl like after me she was going out when it was obvious when her mouth slipped she has someone coming soon after me (of course wanting to try to make me feel special again so her intentions seemed well) , can you imagine a girl telling you as if you don't know,"what kind of girl do you think I am?" LOL. As if she's trying to hide what she does for a living. Then I think about our "relationship". It is built on lust and bullshit (I think this is how unholy might state it) ha ha. I really don't know if theres a thing I know she told me to be true, just telling me all the time what I want to hear and thanks to this site I can verify stuff that she does. But unlike unholy I do believe there are diamonds in the rough. He even thought that at one point too I guess because I read he married one and it never work out. I guess I am just messing around with these girls because its fun and there beautiful and very interesting. But I guess want us to believe we are the only one and stuff like that sometimes is really bullshit for a girl in the industry of getting money off men. The more men the merrier. But homey don't play that game, thanks to this site, homey plays to win only or shortcut the time, money, effort it takes in a relationship and get straight with the fine pussies like the rock stars / nba players do on a daily basis with minimum effort possible.
Carmello we've all been down the path your referring to. It's all about business with the provider I actually think they have some sort of a system to see what game their running on who and keeping tabs on their success or not. Using this forum although some providers read it they mainly use it to see about other places or to see what is being said about them. Most don't really see the true value of what is being said. So remember use your brain don't get your heart involved and as some of us have learned your heart and your wallet won't be damaged.
Stay safe.
LL
Carmello we've all been down the path your referring to. It's all about business with the provider I actually think they have some sort of a system to see what game their running on who and keeping tabs on their success or not. Using this forum although some providers read it they mainly use it to see about other places or to see what is being said about them. Most don't really see the true value of what is being said. So remember use your brain don't get your heart involved and as some of us have learned your heart and your wallet won't be damaged.
Stay safe.
LLThanks bro. Well for girls who all they do is attact guys for money, (no real jobs- well I've known some to do this parttime.) they do have alot of time to try to game guys. I just laugh when they think us men don't know what they're doing. I would say go to church if you really want to trust a girl but then alot of them do go to church, justifying what they are doing is just for business reasons. I loved that one about the guy who could only have sex with the bar girl in the karaoke room not anywhere else because she's "churchee girl." LOL. I guess I'm getting jaded cause outside this AMP / bg thing the woman can be just as bad. And they can steal your heart, your money, and leave you with blue balls. While at least you won't have blue balls messing with these girls, maybe gonorhea balls if you're a bb type of dude but never blue balls. Its just sad, we all want to believe the best but unfortunately we got to keep it real. And so when that feeling of being infatuated with one comes (its part of the fun) , come on experienced mongers agree with me it happens to all of us, I need to take a day or two to get over it and really see the situation for what it is, brain open, heart and wallet closed and then go hit on a more innocent type of chick. Then when that don't work out, WTF, I'm back into artificial cash on demand love just to get over her temporarily.
Bobofet4422
12-02-10, 14:51
We all know what we want when we go into these kind of bars is what? A little play from that hot kbg chick. So newbies who read these post of dudes getting robed, keep in mind that there are a few good girls who do work in the bar, but they are all there for one thing. Is to get as much money from you as possible. They have to pay for rent, food, and of course their wardrobe, shoes, and expensive handbags. Since the bars have been really slow, it's been easier to point out who the snakes are and good girls are, but always remember that they got bills so don't take it personal. Take it as a learning experience so you don't get ROBed again and keep mini me in check. The last thing you want to do is fall in love or get attached to a chick, but atleast make friends with some of them so you can get consistent service. If the chick lets you FIV first drink then awesome, but don't get carried away cause if she let you do it first drink, how many other dudes did that already. We call it getting mileage out of every dollar. Try to get as much play with each twenty, you'll know when to change chick by how fast she wants a drink and if she continually blocks the petting, kick that biaatch to the curb. It is deffinatly easier and cheaper to go to an AMP but I think in my case its the chase that excites me, keeping junior in check is the key.
Member #4374
12-03-10, 21:23
The KBG hoes must be smokin' the VBG hoes in the battle of the hostess golddiggers.
CheapCharlie
12-03-10, 21:25
The KBG hoes must be smokin' the VBG hoes in the battle of the hostess golddiggers.Sorry, but got to disagree with you on that one.
Yoboliscious
12-07-10, 01:06
Hello, all. Come to Club Moonflower Tuesday Dec 6 for the return of Chanel Mama.
The girls that will be returning are. Alisa. Sheena. Juli. Sami. Miki. Yuka. Kyong-a. And maybe the camelot girls that was there when sascha took over. HOPEFULLY not. But come and find out! Oh and a bunch of girls Chanel mama brought back with her.
PM for more information on the girls or pictures!
Thanks guys!
Hello, all. Come to Club Moonflower Tuesday Dec 6 for the return of Chanel Mama.
The girls that will be returning are. Alisa. Sheena. Juli. Sami. Miki. Yuka. Kyong-a. And maybe the camelot girls that was there when sascha took over. HOPEFULLY not. But come and find out! Oh and a bunch of girls Chanel mama brought back with her.
PM for more information on the girls or pictures!
Thanks guys! It's going to be the same thing anyways. However, I do like the old Moonflowers over S Lounge. If Lan and the girls from Romantei are back, then I'd be excited.
Heh, whether a guy is young, old, handsome or ugly, it don't matter, we all think the same. We want the younger attractive looking girls.
The KBG hoes must be smokin' the VBG hoes in the battle of the hostess golddiggers.I haven't a clue how I got to this forum, and don't know if I'll ever find my way back here, but I've still got to ask:
Whats a KBG and a VBG? (guessing BG is bar girl?)
WG, Mobile, AL.
Whats a KBG and a VBG? (guessing BG is bar girl?)
WG, Mobile, AL. You got that part.
KBG. Korean Bar Girl.
VBG. Vietnamese Bar Girl
So, it is interesting reading the comments on relationships with KBGs and AMP girls. I can't imagine having a a legit relationship with an AMP girl. A KBG relationship is possible but very hard at best. Not all KBGs are money robbing wh0res. There are a few that ruin it for the rest, LOL. If you have a legit relationship with a KBG you have to catch her early or late in her career, be able to put up with a ton of crap and look the other way when it comes to lunch dates with customers. Hopefully, they are just lunch dates and nothing else. Not all KBGs will have sex with you in or out of the bar. Trust me, I have tried! Pray that she then retires before becoming a seasoned ROB and before she hardens her heart and your relationship suffers. But hey it is just as much of a gamble as any relationship with any girl, right? I have had 2 relationships with KBGs. They both went down the old toilet but for normal "bad" relationship problems and I am still friends with one of them.Anyone have a semi decent relationship with an AMP girl? This is what I see from experience and throwing caution in the wind, she's answering phone calls from clients when she's with you on dates telling them when she'll be back in, she'll tell you to wait to see her because she has a client right now, always be paranoid when she doesn't get back to you on your phone right away about what's going on when she was just sleeping long hours, act shy around your friends (and for good reason- she may have serviced one of them) , also deal with jealousy if you see another AMP girl but its okay for her to service any monger, deal with having her work for several weeks in a row to pay back debt and have to settle for visiting for little while getting sweet kisses from her wondering if those are the same sweet kisses she just gave the guy before. So I guess the answer is, no way to have a real legit relationship with an AMP unless she plans to get out.
Anyone have a semi decent relationship with an AMP girl? This is what I see from experience and throwing caution in the wind, she's answering phone calls from clients when she's with you on dates telling them when she'll be back in, she'll tell you to wait to see her because she has a client right now, always be paranoid when she doesn't get back to you on your phone right away about what's going on when she was just sleeping long hours, act shy around your friends (and for good reason- she may have serviced one of them) , also deal with jealousy if you see another AMP girl but its okay for her to service any monger, deal with having her work for several weeks in a row to pay back debt and have to settle for visiting for little while getting sweet kisses from her wondering if those are the same sweet kisses she just gave the guy before. So I guess the answer is, no way to have a real legit relationship with an AMP unless she plans to get out.It's all an act to get your money! There's no truth in any of it!
Just forget the whole thing and move on. Don't even both with these women! Use them, fuckk them and then go home and forget 'them!
It's all an act to get your money! There's no truth in any of it!
Just forget the whole thing and move on. Don't even both with these women! Use them, fuckk them and then go home and forget 'them! Amen- I get it now!
I was introduced eons ago (70s) to kb by a group of guys 20+ years older than me when I was barely legal and naive kid but taken under their wing because I was fortunately working for one of them. Places like Domikos, Arirang, the first crystal palace etc come to mind thinking of those ancient times, hehe. Acually didn't go kb much till much older but their advice saved me thousands, prob hundreds of thousands when I think about it now. These guys were high rollers and very successful businessmen but they knew how to have fun and were worldly. And experienced with kbg. The best advice of many was never to make kb a habit or main social activity (even when you get old) and become a 'Kbarholic'. I'm borderline sometimes, hehe. Never give personal info, ph, addr, last name job place etc. Never date or get in a relationship with kbg. Never chase any kbg at bar more than ONE NIGHT and only if you think can fuk them THAT NIGHT only. Never be afraid to say NO regarding who sits with you or when they ask for drinks. But be polite about it. Never 'settle' for any girl you don't want if the one you want thats better is available or no girl at all as the case may be. Never make it a goal of getting laid at kb, just be ready if opportunity knocks. Should chase civilians anyway and not kbg. Never get too friendly with mama because just going to control you and another one you got to buy drinks for. (never understood some guys actualy proud they kno mama) even tho mamas control you in many ways. Some even thank mama for introducing robs to them LOL. Never buy kbg more than 1 drink w / o getting something, play, food, good conversation, massage etc. There is alot more but mind blank now. I must say that their advice served me well all these years and resulted sometimes score and less disapointment and more FUN. I'm an old fut no but I like to think I'm trapped in an old body but really I'm still that horny player I used to be, LOL. And no think the other old guys don't think same like me LOL.
So are the Bartenders at 939, Femme Nu, Rock Za, Princess Palace considered part of the KBC, VBG group or can you have a regular relationship with them?
MT that give He, can you have a regular relationship with them?
AMP Girls?
I will not say what type, but I feel in love with one and I think I got taken.
Please help!
I will not say what type, but I feel in love with one and I think I got taken. Please help!You need to be your own man.
Hello Kitty
01-14-11, 12:40
So are the Bartenders at 939, Femme Nu, Rock Za, Princess Palace considered part of the KBC, VBG group or can you have a regular relationship with them?
MT that give He, can you have a regular relationship with them?
AMP Girls?
I will not say what type, but I feel in love with one and I think I got taken.
Please help!Alot of us was in love and got taken. If they say not then they are lying but we learn from it. Life goes on.
Like Aflack said be your own man.
Numbah One
01-14-11, 15:42
So are the Bartenders at 939, Femme Nu, Rock Za, Princess Palace considered part of the KBC, VBG group or can you have a regular relationship with them?
MT that give He, can you have a regular relationship with them?
AMP Girls?
I will not say what type, but I feel in love with one and I think I got taken.
Please help! If a person from the outside, would read these reports about these women taking advantage of men. Their only logical conclusion would be that these providers, no matter what status, truly despise men.
A lifer prostitute, realizing that she's in it for the duration, really does despise men, because in the end, she lost her soul, so she can survive, in a man's world.
A lifer prostitute, realizing that she's in it for the duration, really does despise men, because in the end, she lost her soul, so she can survive, in a man's world.I second that!
AMP chick, bar girl, stripper, they all pray to the all mighty $$$$$$$.
They are in a cash and go job. They take your cash and you go away. If you stick around, they take more cash.
Sometimes they act like they like you and want you to be their BF. Which means it will cost you a lot.
One in a million I have seen and experienced a K girl tell me, to save my money, and she will take care of me. Yes, it is possible. I even had a AMP GF who never asked me to buy her stuff that was too expensive. But those are seldom seen or heard of.
Been there and done all of them.
My advice is to just have fun and keep ahead of the game. Do not be a fool and give them all your hard earned money.
Captin Crunch
01-16-11, 23:55
AMP chick, bar girl, stripper, they all pray to the all mighty $$$$$$$.
They are in a cash and go job. They take your cash and you go away. If you stick around, they take more cash.
Sometimes they act like they like you and want you to be their BF. Which means it will cost you a lot.
One in a million I have seen and experienced a K girl tell me, to save my money, and she will take care of me. Yes, it is possible. I even had a AMP GF who never asked me to buy her stuff that was too expensive. But those are seldom seen or heard of.
Been there and done all of them.
My advice is to just have fun and keep ahead of the game. Do not be a fool and give them all your hard earned money. Un Holy,
Great to hear you're still around. Miss all your words of wisdom. I better start going into retirement myself. The kb scene is no longer any fun. I still want to meet up and buy you a beer. Pm me if interested.
Mogo Master.
Master Yoda
01-17-11, 00:09
Un Holy,
Great to hear you're still around. Miss all your words of wisdom. I better start going into retirement myself. The kb scene is no longer any fun. I still want to meet up and buy you a beer. Pm me if interested.
Mogo Master. I second that. I also would join in for some beers. Lmk.
Be safe!
MY
Numbah One
01-17-11, 01:01
AMP chick, bar girl, stripper, they all pray to the all mighty $$$$$$$.
They are in a cash and go job. They take your cash and you go away. If you stick around, they take more cash.
Sometimes they act like they like you and want you to be their BF. Which means it will cost you a lot.
One in a million I have seen and experienced a K girl tell me, to save my money, and she will take care of me. Yes, it is possible. I even had a AMP GF who never asked me to buy her stuff that was too expensive. But those are seldom seen or heard of.
Been there and done all of them.
My advice is to just have fun and keep ahead of the game. Do not be a fool and give them all your hard earned money. Unholy,
Can you imagine the guys that are married to these Bar Girls and MT's. And are being told by their ho's that they are not doing anything with guys. And in reality are Kegeling every monger in Honolulu! They are the "Ultimate Suckers"! I don't feel sorry for them! Actually, that's their station in life. To be made a total fool out of, and they're the only ones in Honolulu who don't know it! These guys are really "pussie whipped in shape"!
I second that. Be safe! MY (Was wondering where you was) Third it.
Hello Kitty
01-17-11, 12:17
(Was wondering where you was) Third it.I was wondering that too, had to read his pass post just smack some sense into me.
AMP chick, bar girl, stripper, they all pray to the all mighty $$$$$$$. My advice is to just have fun and keep ahead of the game. Do not be a fool and give them all your hard earned money.They no like F unless there's something in it for them; sky's the limit for them; crash and burn for us (when run out of 'fuel'). Geev'um & leave'um.
Mahalo's. But must decline. I know too many and they know me.
I will continue to share. But been busy. Trying to hook some new meat, and keeping the old meat busy.
Checking out the places and some new stuff but see the same old ones. Have hot dog will travel.
Still searching for the worlds best WHOA!
They no like F unless there's something in it for them; sky's the limit for them; crash and burn for us (when run out of 'fuel'). Geev'um & leave'um.I thought at one point naw, couldn't be, these girls nice. Now I know unfortunately, a girl who makes money off of men is only good for fucking and leaving. Why would she stick with only you (unless you got tons of dough) when their are new dudes every night willing to fork out cash to give her a good time with your hotdog. These girls got their cake and are eating it. Get many better chicks outside the sex industry to game- not saying the game is different but at least you can have some peace of mind.
I just mean those model looking kind of Korean hoes I've seen on vacation. A lot of the Sakura hoes are like early 30s. However, I never got to see the "goddess" Chanel yet.I saw her recently walking around at 7 but wouldn't label her a goddess, well no girl deserves the title goddess, especially one that is trained to take a man's money. But she does have a nice look to her with nice legs and a nice tan. Didn't try her so can't give first hand review. Maybe its just me, but need to try some type of hot asian other than the usual korean / Chinese, going to try my luck chasing some j girl pussy. I think the chase is 80% of the fun. I wish someone would pimp some babora to work in an AMP. AMP = asian massage parlor right? Cause soon I'm going to call them the kamp which would stand for Korean asian massage palors. Or the dim sum at Pink which is becoming a Camp. LOL.
According to Jennifer, it's incredibly difficult to get Japanese girls to work for her because they don't want to do this kind of job. Everytime she tries to get one on board, the girl high-tails it as soon as she finds out she's expected to, gasp, have sex with customers.
I saw her recently walking around at 7 but wouldn't label her a goddess, well no girl deserves the title goddess, especially one that is trained to take a man's money. But she does have a nice look to her with nice legs and a nice tan. Didn't try her so can't give first hand review. Maybe its just me, but need to try some type of hot asian other than the usual korean / Chinese, going to try my luck chasing some j girl pussy. I think the chase is 80% of the fun. I wish someone would pimp some babora to work in an AMP. AMP = asian massage parlor right? Cause soon I'm going to call them the kamp which would stand for Korean asian massage palors. Or the dim sum at Pink which is becoming a Camp. LOL.
According to Jennifer, it's incredibly difficult to get Japanese girls to work for her because they don't want to do this kind of job. Everytime she tries to get one on board, the girl high-tails it as soon as she finds out she's expected to, gasp, have sex with customers.Wow, I didn't know it would be that difficult. Most of the asian porn seems to be japanese ladies. And I know japanese also do prostitution I believe its called soapland? I thought it was a cultural thing that koreans mostly do it, but you can find blacks, whites, Chinese, korean, japanese / korean, but never a full japanese- soo weird. And I swear one of these SW in waikiki who approached me once was full japanese. Why can't they get them in the AMPs?
Lahainawhaler
01-23-11, 18:57
Wow, I didn't know it would be that difficult. Most of the asian porn seems to be japanese ladies. And I know japanese also do prostitution I believe its called soapland? I thought it was a cultural thing that koreans mostly do it, but you can find blacks, whites, Chinese, korean, japanese / korean, but never a full japanese- soo weird. And I swear one of these SW in waikiki who approached me once was full japanese. Why can't they get them in the AMPs?Yeah, it's rare, but once in a great while a "local" Japanese will be working, but they don't stay in the biz too long since the island is "too small". Sounds crazy, but usually when UH tuitions are near due, places may have a local Japanese girl working to make money quick. I asked one college in girl why not work at Femme Nu and make tips w / o having to perform sex, she said too many folks would recognize her dancing!
Yeah, it's rare, but once in a great while a "local" Japanese will be working, but they don't stay in the biz too long since the island is "too small". Sounds crazy, but usually when UH tuitions are near due, places may have a local Japanese girl working to make money quick. I asked one college in girl why not work at Femme Nu and make tips w / o having to perform sex, she said too many folks would recognize her dancing!I seen that ad for that japanese college girl "Dream" but heard her service crappy all over this board and that the pics was not her. I think I would be freaked if some chick (no need be japanese) that I knew for years was working at an AMP. After all this job is suppose to be sort of "secret." I agree, this island is too small and everyone eventually knows everyone else or is connected to someone who knows you. Guess that's why most of these AMP chicks go to and from the mainland- they can be annonymous once they leave the island, and the ones who plan to live and settle down in hawaii, I don't know how a husband would feel with every tenth guy walking down having gone down on your wife. By the way, anyone know if that Japanese / Korean Yuri still at 7?
Wow, I didn't know it would be that difficult. Most of the asian porn seems to be japanese ladies. And I know japanese also do prostitution I believe its called soapland? I thought it was a cultural thing that koreans mostly do it, but you can find blacks, whites, Chinese, korean, japanese / korean, but never a full japanese- soo weird. And I swear one of these SW in waikiki who approached me once was full japanese. Why can't they get them in the AMPs?Dunno, but I think that the SW mind is just totally different. A long time ago, before I knew about AMPs, I used to regularly see an FOB oriental SW in Waikiki. She once described herself and others like her as "crazy", I guess in contrast to girls who "square-up" when they get out of the business.
She looked great no matter what she wore, and once said, "Sometimes I dress like crazy girl, sometimes I dress like square girl". Even to this day she hasn't really been topped as being one of the coolest (and hottest and best-smelling) women ever, but I could tell that her mind was totally different. You could tell she wasn't a regular member of society, but luckily we got along well (because she once told me a guy robbed her, and the sounds she made kinda spooked me).
Anyway, when I think of her I can't imagine her washing and servicing (even giving a slight massage) guys in an AMP or taking orders from some ms or anyone else. Kinda like how Korean hostesses have told me "no way" would they do AMP work. IMHO it takes a special girl to handle and succeed in an AMP.
I'm not certain but I'm pretty sure that alot has to do with how iapanese think of koreans so its not surprising to me at all that japanese girls don't work at AMP. I see many koreans working at soaplands in japan but not japanese in korea although it maybe my limited visits there.
I'm not certain but I'm pretty sure that alot has to do with how iapanese think of koreans so its not surprising to me at all that japanese girls don't work at AMP. I see many koreans working at soaplands in japan but not japanese in korea although it maybe my limited visits there.I believe you're right. Japanese have told me the same thing, they don't associate with Koreans. What a bummer.
Yo,
Had me some very pretty j- provider years back at see. See. On 2nd floor (whatever it was called after the big raid). She was new, barely spoke engulish, worked a little at soapland. Gave me super GFE, and said she wanted out of K AMP for sure-lets just say that j's are proud, arrogant sob's, and she was like that. I sent her to some other massage places to check out, and lost touch.
No love lost there BTW j's and k's. Would love a j-girl provider again. They are far and few between-
Jb.
I'm not certain but I'm pretty sure that alot has to do with how iapanese think of koreans so its not surprising to me at all that japanese girls don't work at AMP. I see many koreans working at soaplands in japan but not japanese in korea although it maybe my limited visits there.
Wow, I didn't know it would be that difficult. Most of the asian porn seems to be japanese ladies. And I know japanese also do prostitution I believe its called soapland? I thought it was a cultural thing that koreans mostly do it, but you can find blacks, whites, Chinese, korean, japanese / korean, but never a full japanese- soo weird. And I swear one of these SW in waikiki who approached me once was full japanese. Why can't they get them in the AMPs?Well speaking from experience Japanese look down upon Koreans. But its a whole bunch of reasons too. 1) Japanese don't have as much problems as the rest of Asia with visas, so therefore they aren't as desperate for work. 2) Money; they can make more money at a AMP in Japan, especially once you do the conversion. 3) Japanese have more of a professional mentality to make money, the bad ones are probably still in Japan or dead. That about sums up the main reasons. Once in a great moon you will find one in a korean AMP but probably out of desperation and its really short. Normally the tourist who have trouble getting back home will work at a Jbar first. Time to time you will also find a J escort but you are going to have to dish out some dough.
Well speaking from experience Japanese look down upon Koreans. But its a whole bunch of reasons too. 1) Japanese don't have as much problems as the rest of Asia with visas, so therefore they aren't as desperate for work. 2) Money; they can make more money at a AMP in Japan, especially once you do the conversion. 3) Japanese have more of a professional mentality to make money, the bad ones are probably still in Japan or dead. That about sums up the main reasons. Once in a great moon you will find one in a korean AMP but probably out of desperation and its really short. Normally the tourist who have trouble getting back home will work at a Jbar first. Time to time you will also find a J escort but you are going to have to dish out some dough.Not to get off topic, but I wonder if a j-AMP opened, would it be analogous to the j-bars, which charge to use a table. I've never had a j-girl say "hunny let's go table". They've always said there's a table charge and insist on staying at the bar.
Perhaps they'd charge for use of the bed, a room tax, and levy surcharges for water consumption and "adult supplies".
They'd be amongst their own kind, but perhaps it's just as well for us that they haven't set-up shop yet. Plus I really can't visualize a j-girl putting-in the kind of effort many k-girls do.
Well speaking from experience Japanese look down upon Koreans. Basically, Korea is to Japan as Mexico is to USA in attitude. At least that's as close as I can come to figuring anything out. Lots of historical reasons to support that. Anyways, a train station 1 stop south of Yokohama and Viola! Hostess Bars, girls on the streets, short time hotels, Korean, Japanese, Russian, Filipino, whatevers. And the biggest shock was going into a bar and the girl wants basically a twenty dollar drink (in yen of course). I was surprised that prices were very similar to Hawaii. Was with my cousin-in-law who seemed to like the Russian Blonde's. Go figure.
Not to get off topic, but I wonder if a j-AMP opened, would it be analogous to the j-bars, which charge to use a table. I've never had a j-girl say "hunny let's go table". They've always said there's a table charge and insist on staying at the bar.
Perhaps they'd charge for use of the bed, a room tax, and levy surcharges for water consumption and "adult supplies".
They'd be amongst their own kind, but perhaps it's just as well for us that they haven't set-up shop yet. Plus I really can't visualize a j-girl putting-in the kind of effort many k-girls do. From what I have heard about the AMPs in Japan, its very rare you would walk out feeling ripped off. What you see in the videos is close to what you get. But like I said before you have to expect to shell out some money. I think I heard the cheapest is about $$$. I also heard they are very strict with the time as they have timers on the door. There are places that do offer some discounts but unless you are familiar with how things run there you won't know about it. Its not very tourist friendly there. As far as how the J-bars are here, well perhaps the girl was just being straight with you. Unless you were willing to dish out more money at the table there was no sense going. The theory is that the purpose for the table fee is if you spend enough, there is a point the girl will feel obligation to go home with you. Its real different, J-bars are the modern day geisha service as everything else is something else.
From what I have heard about the AMPs in Japan, its very rare you would walk out feeling ripped off. What you see in the videos is close to what you get. But like I said before you have to expect to shell out some money. I think I heard the cheapest is about $$$. I also heard they are very strict with the time as they have timers on the door. There are places that do offer some discounts but unless you are familiar with how things run there you won't know about it. Its not very tourist friendly there. As far as how the J-bars are here, well perhaps the girl was just being straight with you. Unless you were willing to dish out more money at the table there was no sense going. The theory is that the purpose for the table fee is if you spend enough, there is a point the girl will feel obligation to go home with you. Its real different, J-bars are the modern day geisha service as everything else is something else.I've talked to a few men and one said he got in cause he can speak and is japanese. Said Gaijin are banned for some reason and you can buy in 15 minute intervals. I'd pay $$$ to bang a fine international japanese girl just once cause dating those bitches cost more.
I've talked to a few men and one said he got in cause he can speak and is japanese. Said Gaijin are banned for some reason and you can buy in 15 minute intervals. I'd pay $$$ to bang a fine international japanese girl just once cause dating those bitches cost more.I could be wrong but I think the reason Gaijin are banned is because of long standing hostility between the Japanese men and white men. There is probably some leftover hatred for the "white guy" in relation to what happened back in World War II. They are probably still pissed off we "bombed" their asses into surrender back then. To the Japanese man it is all about "saving face". The last thing he wants is some white guy banging "his girls". From my many visits to Japan I have realized one thing. Japan is probably the most racist place I ever visited. It is not so much with the women but with the men for sure. Especially the older men there. And of course they are the ones who set laws in the country. And I am sure the Yakuza (which is mostly men) has a lot to do with not allowing Gaijin men in to bang "their girls". Of course I could be wrong about all this and just speculating but just my opinion. Don't take it the wrong way.
But yea, I have banged a few real Japanese girls and they are hit or miss just like any other race of girl. I think a lot of the fascination with Japanese girls comes from the "huge" amount of Japanese porn on the Internet now. And of course all the Japanese porn girls are beautiful. As compared to the general population of women there they really stand out. Frankly I just want to bang Akari Hoshino and Cocomi Sakura up the ass! Then I would be happy. Bonzai!
Koreans fuk better and take better care of their body than Jap girls. Fuking a jap girl is like squeezing a squeeky doll everytime you do the down stroke she goes "eeeeek!" I have onlly met maybe two or three Japanese chicks that have better bodies than Koreans. Korean girls are bread to be fuking machines.
This is not mind of a Vietnamese, or Japanese or Chinese. They guy who started the mind of a Vietnamese is just a copy cat.
Throw down on Korean woooahs! And Korean bar biatches!
As far as how the J-bars are here, well perhaps the girl was just being straight with you. Unless you were willing to dish out more money at the table there was no sense going. The theory is that the purpose for the table fee is if you spend enough, there is a point the girl will feel obligation to go home with you. Its real different, J-bars are the modern day geisha service as everything else is something else.Oh, maybe that's why none of them wanted to go to a table. They didn't want to get stuck with a narly obligation :eek:
Since they insisted on staying seated at the bar, none of them ever found out if I was going to spend on them. I used to wonder why they didn't at least say what the table charge was (they declined to say, focusing only on the fact that there was one) and ask if I still wanted to go. No fun, doze buggas.
Just wanted to clarify some stuff about soaplands. They are really legitimate houses of prostitution and should be viewed as such. Their system is different than our AMP here and pretty much out in the open so no wondering what you going to get and no bargaining, its all about sexual release for men and its almost like a legitimate occupation for the girls that work there. Massage at a soapland usully means massage with their bodies using thier naked body as the scrubber so to speak haha, especially using their boobs and pussy in particular. I have been to many over a period starting from the late 70s are till recently so I know their system pretty well. Some places would blow your minds and there levels or classes of establisments from raunchy to high class. I'm local jap but pretty much fluent and play with friends who are jap nationals so get to go anyplace. As far as japs being racist, yeah they are but not the way you think or why, they just don't want the hassle of dealing with diff lang and culture people for the most part. I don't know where to start as to why they don't work here except the short answer is money imo, and those that would even consider it would have to be from those raunchy places if at all. Yes, got model looks young girls that do it ALL but most japanese have this thing about not kissing even if anything else ok and I mean ANYTHING, hehe. I don't have as much experience in korea but can say thier hygiene is very good, for you divers, jhehe. BTW, SS was referring to Kawasaki city also known as Soapland City.
I could be wrong but I think the reason Gaijin are banned is because of long standing hostility between the Japanese men and white men. There is probably some leftover hatred for the "white guy" in relation to what happened back in World War II. They are probably still pissed off we "bombed" their asses into surrender back then. To the Japanese man it is all about "saving face". The last thing he wants is some white guy banging "his girls". From my many visits to Japan I have realized one thing. Japan is probably the most racist place I ever visited. It is not so much with the women but with the men for sure. Especially the older men there. And of course they are the ones who set laws in the country. And I am sure the Yakuza (which is mostly men) has a lot to do with not allowing Gaijin men in to bang "their girls". Of course I could be wrong about all this and just speculating but just my opinion. Don't take it the wrong way.
Thats partly the reason but I think the main reason is because foreigners ignore japanese etiquette. Therefore, causing problems inside the establishment. Not to mention these type of places are usually run by the yakuza so that would just be an easy way to expose them.
CheapCharlie
01-26-11, 07:57
This is not mind of a Vietnamese, or Japanese or Chinese. They guy who started the mind of a Vietnamese is just a copy cat.
Throw down on Korean woooahs! And Korean bar biatches! Come on Un Holy, I didn't do it to copy you. I just wanted a separate section to b*tch about viet. Girls. I know if I started talking about viets. Instead of koreans in this section, you would get all nuts. CC (Copycat).
Just wanted to clarify some stuff about soaplands. They are really legitimate houses of prostitution and should be viewed as such. Their system is different than our AMP here and pretty much out in the open so no wondering what you going to get and no bargaining, its all about sexual release for men and its almost like a legitimate occupation for the girls that work there. Massage at a soapland usully means massage with their bodies using thier naked body as the scrubber so to speak haha, especially using their boobs and pussy in particular. I have been to many over a period starting from the late 70s are till recently so I know their system well. Some places would blow your minds and there are levels or classes of establisments from raunchy to high class. Some places have those model young girl types but for some reason everything and ANYTHING is on the menu except kissing in most cases. I'm local jap but pretty much fluent and play with friends who are jap nationals so get to go anyplace. At some soaplands, there are korean girls but most grew up in japan and are jap in mind more than korean with jap names as well. Yes there is racism but not in the way you would think. Foriegners to them are just a hassle to deal with because of the language and culture differences, not neccesarilly because of past history. Actually some of these soaplands are even run by koreans just like 99% of pachinko palars are korean run. BTW, that city SS was referring to is Kawasaki city also known as soapland city, hehe. I don't have much experience in korea but can say korean girls there have excellent hygiene for all you divers haha.
Niner Whiner
01-27-11, 02:51
Koreans fuk better and take better care of their body than Jap girls. Fuking a jap girl is like squeezing a squeeky doll everytime you do the down stroke she goes "eeeeek!" I have onlly met maybe two or three Japanese chicks that have better bodies than Koreans. Korean girls are bread to be fuking machines.The perfect girl = born in Taegu, raised in Japan. 100% a *****.
The best thread to read hehe. To me anyways. I'm sure some of you others on here enjoy what's being written under thus thread. Got to bump this thread.
IluvSmellyFish
01-30-11, 02:29
Well speaking from experience Japanese look down upon Koreans. But its a whole bunch of reasons too. 1) Japanese don't have as much problems as the rest of Asia with visas, so therefore they aren't as desperate for work. 2) Money; they can make more money at a AMP in Japan, especially once you do the conversion. 3) Japanese have more of a professional mentality to make money, the bad ones are probably still in Japan or dead. That about sums up the main reasons. Once in a great moon you will find one in a korean AMP but probably out of desperation and its really short. Normally the tourist who have trouble getting back home will work at a Jbar first. Time to time you will also find a J escort but you are going to have to dish out some dough.Koreans don't fancy the Japanese either. In fact, historically the Chinese, Japanese, and Koreans have never gotten along very well. China and Japan were constantly invading one another, and Korea was usually occupied at one point in the past by one of the other two countries. Korea was known as the "shrimp between two whales". Depsite being the smaller of the three countries, it still managed to carve out its own identity despite years of occupation.
Border, island, and maritime disputes between the three countries cause them all to have issues with one another.
That being said, and to get back on topic. Korean girls were born to bang (for money). They are just plain hotter and more willing to do what it takes to make that cash money.
Koreans don't fancy the Japanese either. In fact, historically the Chinese, Japanese, and Koreans have never gotten along very well. China and Japan were constantly invading one another, and Korea was usually occupied at one point in the past by one of the other two countries. Korea was known as the "shrimp between two whales". Depsite being the smaller of the three countries, it still managed to carve out its own identity despite years of occupation.
Border, island, and maritime disputes between the three countries cause them all to have issues with one another.
That being said, and to get back on topic. Korean girls were born to bang (for money). They are just plain hotter and more willing to do what it takes to make that cash money.This is a korean working girl thread. Lets stick to koreans only. BTW, who was the asshole who started the japanese discussion anyway in post #647? Oh it was me. (sarcasm). I agree, koreans are hot, but japanese are just as good to me, usually with less attitude.
This is a korean working girl thread. Lets stick to koreans only. BTW, who was the asshole who started the japanese discussion anyway in post #647? Oh it was me. (sarcasm). I agree, koreans are hot, but japanese are just as good to me, usually with less attitude.Korean, Japanese, Chinese, Thai, Vietnamese or White pussy. Does not matter. Once you get her hormones going regardless of her race, she'll soon be speaking the universal language with a heavy emphasis on the "O" & "Ah" vowels!
No matter where you are in this world, everyone "understands" that language. That's why even though junior is handicaped with one eye and no brains at all,"he" has no trouble with language translation. Ha Ha.
Please add dirty tricks you've seen girls pull.
1. The "Five-Drink Special" when the girl asks for five drinks to "get drunk faster," then shares with friends.
2. The "Buy Mama drink for take keah me" (self explanatory)
3. The Tea-quila shot (of course!)
4. The Magical Water Back, when the girl sneakily uses her glass of water to spit out some (or all) of the real shots she's "drinking."
5. Shots on the Floor, when the girl is already plastered, and instead of drinking, literally pours a shot on the carpet of, oh, idunno, say Evergreen?
6. The "Vacant Room Special" when the girl gets you back there, and then spends 95% of the time outside the room.
7. The "$20 Boobie Show" when the girl asks for a drink because she "showed too much."
Girls is nuts.
Please add dirty tricks you've seen girls pull.
1. The "Five-Drink Special" when the girl asks for five drinks to "get drunk faster," then shares with friends.
2. The "Buy Mama drink for take keah me" (self explanatory)
3. The Tea-quila shot (of course!)
4. The Magical Water Back, when the girl sneakily uses her glass of water to spit out some (or all) of the real shots she's "drinking."
5. Shots on the Floor, when the girl is already plastered, and instead of drinking, literally pours a shot on the carpet of, oh, idunno, say Evergreen?
6. The "Vacant Room Special" when the girl gets you back there, and then spends 95% of the time outside the room.
7. The "$20 Boobie Show" when the girl asks for a drink because she "showed too much."
Girls is nuts. Oh yes, time to bump this thread. It's been getting boring this thread. I'll chime in add to this once I get home.
Please add dirty tricks you've seen girls pull.
1. The "Five-Drink Special" when the girl asks for five drinks to "get drunk faster," then shares with friends.
2. The "Buy Mama drink for take keah me" (self explanatory)
3. The Tea-quila shot (of course!)
4. The Magical Water Back, when the girl sneakily uses her glass of water to spit out some (or all) of the real shots she's "drinking."
5. Shots on the Floor, when the girl is already plastered, and instead of drinking, literally pours a shot on the carpet of, oh, idunno, say Evergreen?
6. The "Vacant Room Special" when the girl gets you back there, and then spends 95% of the time outside the room.
7. The "$20 Boobie Show" when the girl asks for a drink because she "showed too much."
Girls is nuts. You forgot the most simple and common one,"Fast Gulp." When the girl just gulps down her drink and asks for another and if you don't buy her another just walks away. Man maybe not such a good idea to talk about all this, I get so angry just thinking about it.
You forgot the most simple and common one,"Fast Gulp." When the girl just gulps down her drink and asks for another and if you don't buy her another just walks away. Man maybe not such a good idea to talk about all this, I get so angry just thinking about it.It's all about anger catharsis, so let's talk it out, hahaha. The one that got me really angry was the ultimate burn:
9: The "Honey, instead of spending time in the room (that you paid for) you come home to my place after pau work, and I come up with an elaborate way of escaping the promise and then pretend I didn't do anything wrong, the next day," GOD DAMMIT. (Note: this technique cannot be repeated, as dogs like me still learn new tricks)
"You so smart and handsome; you must have plenty girlfriend. You the best!"
Master Yoda
02-01-11, 16:01
Please add dirty tricks you've seen girls pull.When you and the boys drop 20s on the table, she takes the order, returns with the drinks and places the (wet) tray on the pile of 20s in hopes of one sticking to the bottom.
Or "Hi baby, how you been? I missed you! Buy me one good luck drink! C'mon, only one!" So you buy her one, she takes a sip (doesn't even sit down) and says "I'll be back" and bails, never to return.
Or you buy a bottle of champagne for her birthday. She talks to the waiter in Korean, you see the waiter at the bar shaking then slam the bottle on the ground before he brings it. Pop, all spews out. Only 2 glasses remain.
Or you buy her a bottle of baeksaeju for her birthday. The waiter bring it, opens it, and pours for her. You don't hear the metal cap (crack) open. You ask for a taste. She refuses. You take it from her to find tea (podicha) in her glass.
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When you and the boys drop 20s on the table, she takes the order, returns with the drinks and places the (wet) tray on the pile of 20s in hopes of one sticking to the bottom.
Or "Hi baby, how you been? I missed you! Buy me one good luck drink! C'mon, only one!" So you buy her one, she takes a sip (doesn't even sit down) and says "I'll be back" and bails, never to return.
Or you buy a bottle of champagne for her birthday. She talks to the waiter in Korean, you see the waiter at the bar shaking then slam the bottle on the ground before he brings it. Pop, all spews out. Only 2 glasses remain.
Or you buy her a bottle of baeksaeju for her birthday. The waiter bring it, opens it, and pours for her. You don't hear the metal cap (crack) open. You ask for a taste. She refuses. You take it from her to find tea (podicha) in her glass.
MYWith champagne, I tell the girl if it spills, I'm not paying.
With bekseju, I tell them I want to open the bottle so I can see the metal ring is intact.
"You so smart and handsome; you must have plenty girlfriend. You the best!"Hi, I'm H Mobius and I'm a "Hopeless Dope" :). Yeah I've heard exactly that same line, as well as the one Master Yoda wrote. One time the girl was half laughing while saying the words. I cracked-up laughing, then complimented her and she looked irked :). Yeah she knew that I knew that she knew......
It's even worse now because they go outside to smoke; "Hunney, I smoke, I come bek". WAY later.
Good list, Z7.
Some of these have been mentioned already.
* Bringing you food and serving you. Because she brought all that food, you feel bad to just leave. Then, you end up staying. Of course, when you eat, you get thirsty and you get a drink. Then, she sits there waiting for you to get her a drink since she. Brought you the food. Even though you say you not hungry and that you just ate, she still bring you food.
* BG offers to buy you a drink. Of course, you'll think she's cool that she does this but, it keeps you there longer where you end up buying her a drink. Besides, a beer is only a small price for her to pay. Not a big loss for her. They treat you as a friendly gesture. But of course, they'll expect that you return the favor.
* Inviting herself to sit down. Had times where the girl just suddenly squeezes in and sits down unexpectedly without even asking. By doing this, she feels you'll feel guilty to just tell her to get up and leave because she's already sitting down next to you.
* The pouting. If you bought her several drinks and you decide to cut it on the drinks, she'll beg to ask you if can get one more. If you say no, she pouts and begs hoping that you feel bad. Your soft heart kicks in and eventually you end up buying her another. Or, she also uses her smile to weaken you. You know, a female with a killer smile would weaken any man.
* The one last drink for good luck. Hehe how many times you heard this one huh? She can say its the last drink and you can tell her it will be the last. But, low and behold, after she finishes the drink."Can I get another one?" What the hell, she has nothing to lose by asking again. Who knows, you may just do it again. Hey, she already was able to get you to buy her one more right?
* Inviting others to join in. Yup. How many times you came across a BG you sat with, bought her drinks and later brings back one of her BG friend? Then, asks if you can buy her a drink as well? Then, the BG you sat with originally, gets up and leaves to either sit with one of her regulars or go to the backroom. Now your stuck with the the BG she brought that your not interested in.
*The touch. Very common tactic. Get you all worked up to get you to buy her another drink. Rubbing of your crotch, kiss you on the lips. Basically, to get U-turned on to where it would be hard to say no. Allowing you to touch her by having you touch her boobs or facial rubs in her boobs. Hey, if a BG is not that skilled in being sociable or a sweet talker, use another means of communicating.
* Fast drinker. Yup. Automatic for them for just ask away. If you get touchy touchy, bam increase the drinking speed and ask for more. Another reason, she doesn't want to sit with you. She tanks the drink quickly, and hopefully get you discouraged and you don't want to buy her anymore. Heh, then she can leave. What do you think? A BG enjoys sitting with all her customers? If she is willing to sit with you away from her regular, she wants to see if you can splurge. If not, why bother sitting with you who spends less on her than her regular?
*Sipping an empty glass. Hehe some BG no like ask so what they do is wait until you offer them another one. She'll sip her glass with just the ice in it to relay to you that her drink is empty and that she wants another drink. She no like hound you for drinks and make it obvious. So, she throw hints.
* The distraction. Hehe you know this one. Your caught up laughing, singing and in a conversation. One of the girls grabs the glasses and comes back filling it without asking. Then, she comes back and waits for you to pull out your 20s. Sometimes, they do this because they feel you don't mind since you already bought them several rounds to where she no need to ask you anymore. What's a few more drinks? This one pisses me off. Even though you tell them your down to your last $20, she gets up and grabs another. When you say you don't have cash already, she says: "Get ATM machine over there" Heh, these girls don't get it, last $20 bill means it will be your last drink.
*"I'll be back" Yup a common line I heard. She sits with you then, suddenly, she gets up and says: "I'll be back" you feel she going to the bathroom or other. She won't always tell you why she has to step away. Next thing you know, you find yourself sitting at the booth for so many minutes wondering where she went. You stand up, look around and whadda you know, you see her sitting at another booth with another guy. Possibly her regular.
*Only for Champagne. Boom you know this one right? You go aggressive on her at the booth. Then she suddenly says: "only champagne I would do that" You decide to go backroom with a bottle of Soju instead cause its cheaper, you try DATY or suck on her boobs. Then she says: "Baby, that's for champagne" Heh, a Soju bottle is limited on play. You got to upgrade to champagne to get more. Hey, whatever means and excuses they'll bring up for more cash, they'll resort to that level.
*Making up their own prices. Yup. $40 special drinks. There's nothing special about it. Just her making that silly idea of it being special. Also, quoting you a cheaper cost to go back room. Next thing you know, she says its going to cost this much more. But, since you went that far already, she feels its harder for you to back out. She says a bottle will only cost this much in private room. But, she catches you afterwards by asking for more bottles.
*Boyfriend? Makes you wonder huh if she has a bf outside of the bar. I know, stupid question, she has several bfs. That, or a guy is banging her on the side and spoiling her. But, when asked if she does, of course she'll lie about it and say no. Especially when she knows and senses that you like her. Why would she come out and tell you openly? It's not something that you'd want to hear as it will discourage you from wanting to sit with her and buying her anymore drinks. What if her bf Is in the bar? She doesn't want you to think that. Plus, you'll probably back off and avoid the drama. But then, next thing you know, you see her and a guy walking together at Ala Moana one day. Then she says: "Oh, he's just a friend"
*The compliments. I'm sure some of you heard compliments from a BG saying your so handsome, cute, sweet, your a good guy etc. Now, they can't be lieing about this every time. Some actually do mean it. You'll know its obvious that's its an utter lie. If you know your overweight and she says you have a nice body, she is basically saying anything just to make you feel good.
You know, despite all the things that they do, it's funny actually seeing the things they do and things they say. Imagine making a documentary on this haha. I know most of you guys, who experience this, you walk out of the bar discussing what she did and didn't do. It's part of the excitement actually. If you can't handle what they do, then you shouldn't bother going. Don't feel bad because you're not alone. It happens to a lot of guys out there.
Master Yoda
02-02-11, 00:08
With champagne, I tell the girl if it spills, I'm not paying.
With bekseju, I tell them I want to open the bottle so I can see the metal ring is intact. As seasoned veterans we all should know this. I wrote this tailored more towards the noobies out there. Never pay up front for drinks, especially bottles. Or just don't buy any bottles for them, period! If it's not to your liking, then don't do it.
MY
As seasoned veterans we all should know this. I wrote this tailored more towards the noobies out there. Never pay up front for drinks, especially bottles. Or just don't buy any bottles for them, period! If it's not to your liking, then don't do it.
MYOne time I took the boys out and we got a room at a bar. Girls came in and so did the bottles. I swear this place was so blatant, the "wine" was crystal clear like 7up. The bottles start to get poured and girls are having a great time drinking it. I go to take a sip and the girl refuses to let me taste it. She holds onto the glass for dear life and I just grab the bottle and pour some of it into my cup. It was 7up alright! I tell the guys get up and we're leaving. Mama comes in and asks what's the problem. I tell her the waiter brought 7up instead of wine, so we were leaving and I wasn't paying for it. Mama sends in real bottles afterward and the girls were not happy.
You guys been cracking me up reading about bg tricks because we vets can totally relate either first hand or with friends being the victims. They been pulling those tricks for decades! Hahaha. Rather than post more of their tricks (which got plenty more) I'd like to give some of my comeback lines to bg trying to get drinks etc. * can I sit down? Ok but if you boring don't sit with me and even if you not boring I will not buy you drink until AFTER you make me happy or entertain me. They will usually either not try or surprise you (rarely) hehe. *Lets do lunch / dinner or lets go napa or evergreen after* This means they want free lunch / diner / shopping / more $20drinks. I say do you mean you want to invite me and you pay or are asking me to buy you? They never get thier wish when you make things clear and will back off. *we can have fun in the room or if you buy me bla bla* Can I pay AFTER and can you tell me in detail what yr fun means? After all I know all the korean guys pay after or not at all, LOL. I better stop or get too long. Hehe
Lahainawhaler
02-02-11, 03:19
One time I took the boys out and we got a room at a bar. Girls came in and so did the bottles. I swear this place was so blatant, the "wine" was crystal clear like 7up. The bottles start to get poured and girls are having a great time drinking it. I go to take a sip and the girl refuses to let me taste it. She holds onto the glass for dear life and I just grab the bottle and pour some of it into my cup. It was 7up alright! I tell the guys get up and we're leaving. Mama comes in and asks what's the problem. I tell her the waiter brought 7up instead of wine, so we were leaving and I wasn't paying for it. Mama sends in real bottles afterward and the girls were not happy.Wow. Good advice. I would expect them to do like restaurants and open the bottle in front of you (so you know it wasn't pre filled with soda.)
Don't forget that the KBG also wants you to "tip" the waiter who brings the bottle to the room. $20 bucks just for bringing and opening the lousy bottle. Of course, the KBG won't pay for it; it's your (our) responsibility. F them all.
Korean girls, that is what this is about. The last few posts were pretty good. Anybody date any AMP girls lately?
You know, these KBG, act like young kids that needs some scolding and lecturing. No scared to scold and lecture them if they get out of hand. If your child starts to get out of hand, what do you do? Scoldum. Sometimes, you tell them nicely they'll not listen. The same goes with a BG. Telling them nicely won't always work. In their mind, they think: "I'm sure he won't mind if I get another drink" Then, they just help themselves even though you told her nicely beforehand that it will be the last drink. Show some authority. If not, she feels she can get you to give in and get your soft side to kick in. Like I mentioned earlier, they pout so you feel pity. I bet most of you guys do this, when she looks at you, smiles and begs, you think: "Aww. She so cute. What the hell, I'll get her 1 more" when you give in, she walks to the bar thinking: "I knew I could get him to say yes"
Like Oldee mentioned earlier on comebacks, when you do a comeback, you put them on the spot. Then you make them look stupid hehe. They know now, the tricks won't be easy on someone like you.
You know what? Don't make her be like a mom to you that she can boss you. If she gets another drink your like her son saying "yes mom, ok you get another drink" Nope. Be her dad and the BG be your daughter. If she tries to get another drink without asking, what does a father do? Scold her."Eh, I said you can get another drink?" Then she says: "No dad, sorry" LOL
"You so smart and handsome; you must have plenty girlfriend. You the best!"Last name Bo. First name Ba.
*we can have fun in the room or if you buy me bla bla* Can I pay AFTER and can you tell me in detail what yr fun means? After all I know all the korean guys pay after or not at all, LOL. I better stop or get too long. HeheI always pay after, unless I know the girl and she'll keep her word. I tell the girl if she promises me something and does not produce, I won't pay.
What the hell, I'll get her 1 more" when you give in, she walks to the bar thinking: "I knew I could get him to say yes"Oh yeah, I'll bet that's one of the things they think. I watch as they leave the table and come to the bar. They're so friendly at the table, then once they're on their way to the bar, their faces turn serious especially at the bar. Can see their wheels turning; ("K, if I keep ROBBing dis dummass guy, maybe I no need go Evagreen afta cuz I gotta golf with dat fat looza first ting tomorrow. Den I gotta eat with da tantaran guy afta; long day tomorrow. Oh no, da money train wen stop, guess I gotta buss-out my tits". Almost like Jekyll and Hyde and Jekyll.
Khun Chagi
02-03-11, 01:28
Or you buy a bottle of champagne for her birthday. She talks to the waiter in Korean, you see the waiter at the bar shaking then slam the bottle on the ground before he brings it. Pop, all spews out. Only 2 glasses remain.As a newbee this happened to me but there were 3 glasses left, not 2. Got off paying half price after saying something to the girl. Live and learn.
Oh yeah, I'll bet that's one of the things they think. I watch as they leave the table and come to the bar. They're so friendly at the table, then once they're on their way to the bar, their faces turn serious especially at the bar. Can see their wheels turning; ("K, if I keep ROBBing dis dummass guy, maybe I no need go Evagreen afta cuz I gotta golf with dat fat looza first ting tomorrow. Den I gotta eat with da tantaran guy afta; long day tomorrow. Oh no, da money train wen stop, guess I gotta buss-out my tits". Almost like Jekyll and Hyde and Jekyll.Yup. Guaranteed they thinking that. They all laughing and giggling with you at the booth when you getting physical with them. Then, when she stands up and step away, she thinking: "He is so. Pervert! He can't control himself" then when she comes back with her drink, she cracks a grin on her face like she happy when inside of her she's not.
A medical study revealed that 90% of wahines in sex (or related) industries not only hated men but also had some form of physical deformity. Could not believe it at first but, via experience, I now suspect the report to be true. Comments? Observations?
A medical study revealed that 90% of wahines in sex (or related) industries not only hated men but also had some form of physical deformity. Could not believe it at first but, via experience, I now suspect the report to be true. Comments? Observations?Well outwardly, Jane at D'Amour has a bump on her throat cartilage that looks like a small Adam's Apple. I read something that said some girls do have that feature. Probably just a genetic variation. I still think she's one of the cutest girls around.
With a lot of beautiful girls, it is all in their mind IMO. Bobbi at Ichiban is somehow 'programmed' to believe that without makeup, she is "ugly". Personally, I think she's the cutest thing when plain.
Then I've seen some providers who were convinced they Need to get that 'double eyelid' surgery, or a 'nose-job', or some other cosmetic procedure so that they will then be "beautiful". Outwardly, IMHO, there's nothing wrong and they look great. It saddens me, actually.
A medical study revealed that 90% of wahines in sex (or related) industries not only hated men but also had some form of physical deformity. Could not believe it at first but, via experience, I now suspect the report to be true. Comments? Observations?Well my study of BGs is 90% of them are lazy and spoiled. They don't want to work for hard earned money so they sell themselves.
Then I've seen some providers who were convinced they Need to get that 'double eyelid' surgery, or a 'nose-job', or some other cosmetic procedure so that they will then be "beautiful". Outwardly, IMHO, there's nothing wrong and they look great. It saddens me, actually.Years ago had a local japanese girlfriend who was convinced she needed the eyelid surgery. Afterwards, I really didn't see much of a difference but she was real happy with it. Then there is the tall girl that used to be at Splash with a Michael Jackson nose job. Too bad. No need. However, a good boob job is a good boob job! God bless the inventor of that process. Overall though, I prefer au naturale. Too include black hair (as opposed to bleached blonde). That being said. It's still any port in a storm for me.
Regards,
SS
Then I've seen some providers who were convinced they Need to get that 'double eyelid' surgery, or a 'nose-job', or some other cosmetic procedure so that they will then be "beautiful". Outwardly, IMHO, there's nothing wrong and they look great. It saddens me, actually.Women get bored easily. That's why you see women shopping for soo many types of clothes, shoes, bags, jewelry. They get bored of their looks to. Change the hairstyle, structure of the face, size of their boobs. Sometimes, the changes they make isn't all that good. But, to them, its a change and something different.
Yes; but the flavor with these girls was more like they believed they were hideous or were downright disgusted with their appearance, rather than materialism. Kind of like the skinny girl who thinks she's fat.
Yes; but the flavor with these girls was more like they believed they were hideous or were downright disgusted with their appearance, rather than materialism. Kind of like the skinny girl who thinks she's fat.Hehe, maybe do the reverse psychology on them. If they think they ugly, say: "Yah, you really are. Geez you got to work on your looks" Bring up off the wall things that maybe discourages her from considering it. Then she doesn't bother.
As far as the skinny girl who thinks she fat or a pretty girl who thinks she ugly, I bet some girls gets off hearing a guy tell her she not fat or ugly. It's like she putting herself down to not sound or come across as being conceited. I remember a girl just love doing this. She cuts herself down to hear the compliments.
Getting fat or ugly bothers them, but you know what really scares these girls? They are afraid of getting old. You can really mess with their mind by telling them they look really great "for their age". Just roll with it from there.
Hello Kitty
02-06-11, 17:12
Hehe, maybe do the reverse psychology on them. If they think they ugly, say: "Yah, you really are. Geez you got to work on your looks" Bring up off the wall things that maybe discourages her from considering it. Then she doesn't bother.
As far as the skinny girl who thinks she fat or a pretty girl who thinks she ugly, I bet some girls gets off hearing a guy tell her she not fat or ugly. It's like she putting herself down to not sound or come across as being conceited. I remember a girl just love doing this. She cuts herself down to hear the compliments.Most of the time I say things without even thinking and it piss the girls off. Some time it end up her giving me the finger even if I don't know what I said wrong.
Hello Kitty
02-06-11, 18:36
Some of these have been mentioned already.
* Bringing you food and serving you. Because she brought all that food, you feel bad to just leave. Then, you end up staying. Of course, when you eat, you get thirsty and you get a drink. Then, she sits there waiting for you to get her a drink since she. Brought you the food. Even though you say you not hungry and that you just ate, she still bring you food.
* BG offers to buy you a drink. Of course, you'll think she's cool that she does this but, it keeps you there longer where you end up buying her a drink. Besides, a beer is only a small price for her to pay. Not a big loss for her. They treat you as a friendly gesture. But of course, they'll expect that you return the favor.
* Inviting herself to sit down. Had times where the girl just suddenly squeezes in and sits down unexpectedly without even asking. By doing this, she feels you'll feel guilty to just tell her to get up and leave because she's already sitting down next to you.
* The pouting. If you bought her several drinks and you decide to cut it on the drinks, she'll beg to ask you if can get one more. If you say no, she pouts and begs hoping that you feel bad. Your soft heart kicks in and eventually you end up buying her another. Or, she also uses her smile to weaken you. You know, a female with a killer smile would weaken any man.
* The one last drink for good luck. Hehe how many times you heard this one huh? She can say its the last drink and you can tell her it will be the last. But, low and behold, after she finishes the drink."Can I get another one?" What the hell, she has nothing to lose by asking again. Who knows, you may just do it again. Hey, she already was able to get you to buy her one more right?
* Inviting others to join in. Yup. How many times you came across a BG you sat with, bought her drinks and later brings back one of her BG friend? Then, asks if you can buy her a drink as well? Then, the BG you sat with originally, gets up and leaves to either sit with one of her regulars or go to the backroom. Now your stuck with the the BG she brought that your not interested in.
*The touch. Very common tactic. Get you all worked up to get you to buy her another drink. Rubbing of your crotch, kiss you on the lips. Basically, to get U-turned on to where it would be hard to say no. Allowing you to touch her by having you touch her boobs or facial rubs in her boobs. Hey, if a BG is not that skilled in being sociable or a sweet talker, use another means of communicating.
* Fast drinker. Yup. Automatic for them for just ask away. If you get touchy touchy, bam increase the drinking speed and ask for more. Another reason, she doesn't want to sit with you. She tanks the drink quickly, and hopefully get you discouraged and you don't want to buy her anymore. Heh, then she can leave. What do you think? A BG enjoys sitting with all her customers? If she is willing to sit with you away from her regular, she wants to see if you can splurge. If not, why bother sitting with you who spends less on her than her regular?
*Sipping an empty glass. Hehe some BG no like ask so what they do is wait until you offer them another one. She'll sip her glass with just the ice in it to relay to you that her drink is empty and that she wants another drink. She no like hound you for drinks and make it obvious. So, she throw hints.
* The distraction. Hehe you know this one. Your caught up laughing, singing and in a conversation. One of the girls grabs the glasses and comes back filling it without asking. Then, she comes back and waits for you to pull out your 20s. Sometimes, they do this because they feel you don't mind since you already bought them several rounds to where she no need to ask you anymore. What's a few more drinks? This one pisses me off. Even though you tell them your down to your last $20, she gets up and grabs another. When you say you don't have cash already, she says: "Get ATM machine over there" Heh, these girls don't get it, last $20 bill means it will be your last drink.
*"I'll be back" Yup a common line I heard. She sits with you then, suddenly, she gets up and says: "I'll be back" you feel she going to the bathroom or other. She won't always tell you why she has to step away. Next thing you know, you find yourself sitting at the booth for so many minutes wondering where she went. You stand up, look around and whadda you know, you see her sitting at another booth with another guy. Possibly her regular.
*Only for Champagne. Boom you know this one right? You go aggressive on her at the booth. Then she suddenly says: "only champagne I would do that" You decide to go backroom with a bottle of Soju instead cause its cheaper, you try DATY or suck on her boobs. Then she says: "Baby, that's for champagne" Heh, a Soju bottle is limited on play. You got to upgrade to champagne to get more. Hey, whatever means and excuses they'll bring up for more cash, they'll resort to that level.
*Making up their own prices. Yup. $40 special drinks. There's nothing special about it. Just her making that silly idea of it being special. Also, quoting you a cheaper cost to go back room. Next thing you know, she says its going to cost this much more. But, since you went that far already, she feels its harder for you to back out. She says a bottle will only cost this much in private room. But, she catches you afterwards by asking for more bottles.
*Boyfriend? Makes you wonder huh if she has a bf outside of the bar. I know, stupid question, she has several bfs. That, or a guy is banging her on the side and spoiling her. But, when asked if she does, of course she'll lie about it and say no. Especially when she knows and senses that you like her. Why would she come out and tell you openly? It's not something that you'd want to hear as it will discourage you from wanting to sit with her and buying her anymore drinks. What if her bf Is in the bar? She doesn't want you to think that. Plus, you'll probably back off and avoid the drama. But then, next thing you know, you see her and a guy walking together at Ala Moana one day. Then she says: "Oh, he's just a friend"
*The compliments. I'm sure some of you heard compliments from a BG saying your so handsome, cute, sweet, your a good guy etc. Now, they can't be lieing about this every time. Some actually do mean it. You'll know its obvious that's its an utter lie. If you know your overweight and she says you have a nice body, she is basically saying anything just to make you feel good.
You know, despite all the things that they do, it's funny actually seeing the things they do and things they say. Imagine making a documentary on this haha. I know most of you guys, who experience this, you walk out of the bar discussing what she did and didn't do. It's part of the excitement actually. If you can't handle what they do, then you shouldn't bother going. Don't feel bad because you're not alone. It happens to a lot of guys out there.This is good shit. Knowing this going to get lost how come no one started a thread 'Bar Girls Dirty Bags of Tricks' or something like that. I know the bg going read this and come out with some new tricks that we can add in later.
Most of the time I say things without even thinking and it piss the girls off. Some time it end up her giving me the finger even if I don't know what I said wrong.Heh, I remember the time me and my friend was at Exotic Nights. There was a hot ass Korean chick from Las Vegas dancing onstage. She had a tight body. She also stripped at FN for a little while. We both tipped her on stage and my friend was complimenting her body. I was about to make a compliment. I complimented her shoes instead hehe. Hehe, she thought I was going to compliment her body. But, not! When we were about to leave, she came up to us and she hugged and kissed my friend on the cheek saying: "thank you" then, she came to me and did the same. But, she said this to me: "thanks a alot asshole" Hehe, Aww. I guess I hurt her ego.
Heh, I remember the time me and my friend was at Exotic Nights. There was a hot ass Korean chick from Las Vegas dancing onstage. She had a tight body. She also stripped at FN for a little while. We both tipped her on stage and my friend was complimenting her body. I was about to make a compliment. I complimented her shoes instead hehe. Hehe, she thought I was going to compliment her body. But, not! When we were about to leave, she came up to us and she hugged and kissed my friend on the cheek saying: "thank you" then, she came to me and did the same. But, she said this to me: "thanks a alot asshole" Hehe, Aww. I guess I hurt her ego.When Dallas started dancing many years ago, she had guys drooling all over her. I went there with a group of friends and they went gaga over her whilst I ignored her. That peaked her attention to the point where she blocked me from leaving the place and threw herself at me.
This is good shit. Knowing this going to get lost how come no one started a thread 'Bar Girls Dirty Bags of Tricks' or something like that. I know the bg going read this and come out with some new tricks that we can add in later.The best tactic is to ignore them. The more undesirable they feel the more attention they want (they need attention to make money as well). They (wahines) have an aggressive and competitive nature.
I have had MANY times where the KBG wanted to 'prove' she gave better service or was nicer than the 'other' kbg etc. This meant more play for less $ all because women unlike men are really jealous of each other. The main thing they need to know is you are a free agent and not a spoken for customer of any kbg, otherwise they might go nuts like that yujin did to bradda Lumpia. Sometimes they'll ask questions about the other girl and thats when you can really mess with their minds. I just smile and give as little info as possible which fustrates the hell out of them. Ie: did you have nice time with so and so? Me: big smile and just nod. Like the other bro said, jealousy and competition for $ is a powerful motivator.
Khun Chagi
02-08-11, 13:45
This could get interesting if and when the girls read this. Trying to guess our identities. LOL!
I know all of you out there got a fav you sit with. Does she give you the "NO sit with other girls at other bars, ok?" deal?
So, how many of you do have other girls at other bars?
Do you think that they know you sit with other girls at other bars?
Do they really care if you do?
I know that they get mad if you sit with others at the same bar, or act like it. That have been proven.
How many girls do you sit with at different locations? Names?
Like Alisha at Moonflower, Lexi at Butterfly, Satomi at Splash, Purple (sp) at Mayas just to name a few.
This could get interesting if and when the girls read this. Trying to guess our identities. LOL!
I know all of you out there got a fav you sit with. Does she give you the "NO sit with other girls at other bars, ok?" deal? LOL, I hope most of them read this.
Since she pissed me off, I'd like to say: Hi Yujin, of D'Amour. You were just one of seven girls I normally sit with, and if I had to rank you in terms of hotness and fun, you'd only come in fifth place. Just so you know."Hi Hi high good morning?" Nah.
When Dallas started dancing many years ago, she had guys drooling all over her. I went there with a group of friends and they went gaga over her whilst I ignored her. That peaked her attention to the point where she blocked me from leaving the place and threw herself at me.Perfect example of being unpredictable.
Just wanted to share what has worked for me over the years although YMMV.
I love the challenge of hunting women and especialy civilians but kbg is more convenient for me nowdays because it happens THAT night when you are successful. I think I have a pretty good track record when compared to the guys that say they hunt at kbs although only got friends to compare with that are real 'animals'. Hehe. Skebe guys can only score with the slutty girls imo and I don't hunt the 'play' girls because you are just paying a glorified prostitute imo so may as well go AMP for that kind action. However, I do garbage scoring on slutty kbgs occasionaly because cheap after they wasted drunk ripping earlier guys got them wasted but not enough and what is left is easy praciticaly freebie for me, being the nice guy they 'comfortable' with, hehe. Let me say first that I'm no don juan ladykiller. (at least now) but got successes with the non easy ones by seizing the opportunities that sometimes present themselves. It doesn't happen often, but does happen. Using your civilian skills / game is important, as kbgs are women too and you need at least some game to score. Let me emphasise that you don't neccesarily need to buy them alot of drinks. Or you got to be handsome, tall. Buff. Etc. You just need to have them respect you as someone that RESPECTS THEM! Them being a little wasted from earlier customers helps alot altho I have scored when they not drunk, they were emotional though. Being the shoulder to cry on guy and listener non skebe guy really is a choice time because they are 'VULNERABLE'. It is all about how you make them FEEL about THEMSELVES when they are with YOU! A comforting arm around the shouder will lead to good times when they are vulnerable. BTW, kbg don't respect guys that buy lot of drinks, they hate those guys but pretend opposite. They of coarse love the $ but not the guy. I never ever chase kbgs, I let them come to me. (sounds conceited hehe). No, its chasing by not chasing. IF they are interested in you, you don't need to chase, and you will know they are into you. If you don't know, they are not into you. All the kbgs I slept with did so because I was NOT grab ass to them, at least the non slutty ones, hehe. Valentines day coming soon and going to have all the guys buying roses / gifts for nothing imo, hehe. Bottom line. Kbgs screw the guys they respect that probably spend less.
Again YMMV and this just my experience.
Just wanted to share what has worked for me over the years although YMMV.
I love the challenge of hunting women and especialy civilians but kbg is more convenient for me nowdays because it happens THAT night when you are successful. I think I have a pretty good track record when compared to the guys that say they hunt at kbs although only got friends to compare with that are real 'animals'. Hehe. Skebe guys can only score with the slutty girls imo and I don't hunt the 'play' girls because you are just paying a glorified prostitute imo so may as well go AMP for that kind action. However, I do garbage scoring on slutty kbgs occasionaly because cheap after they wasted drunk ripping earlier guys got them wasted but not enough and what is left is easy praciticaly freebie for me, being the nice guy they 'comfortable' with, hehe. Let me say first that I'm no don juan ladykiller. (at least now) but got successes with the non easy ones by seizing the opportunities that sometimes present themselves. It doesn't happen often, but does happen. Using your civilian skills / game is important, as kbgs are women too and you need at least some game to score. Let me emphasise that you don't neccesarily need to buy them alot of drinks. Or you got to be handsome, tall. Buff. Etc. You just need to have them respect you as someone that RESPECTS THEM! Them being a little wasted from earlier customers helps alot altho I have scored when they not drunk, they were emotional though. Being the shoulder to cry on guy and listener non skebe guy really is a choice time because they are 'VULNERABLE'. It is all about how you make them FEEL about THEMSELVES when they are with YOU! A comforting arm around the shouder will lead to good times when they are vulnerable. BTW, kbg don't respect guys that buy lot of drinks, they hate those guys but pretend opposite. They of coarse love the $ but not the guy. I never ever chase kbgs, I let them come to me. (sounds conceited hehe). No, its chasing by not chasing. IF they are interested in you, you don't need to chase, and you will know they are into you. If you don't know, they are not into you. All the kbgs I slept with did so because I was NOT grab ass to them, at least the non slutty ones, hehe. Valentines day coming soon and going to have all the guys buying roses / gifts for nothing imo, hehe. Bottom line. Kbgs screw the guys they respect that probably spend less.
Again YMMV and this just my experience. Yup. I agree. Doing this, I don't see how it would hurt or worsen your chances.
By that I mean like breaking in a stallion to be able to ride it nicely. Hard to do eh, but possible. But a horse is stupid compared to a KBG or AMP chick, so goooooood luck!
In the future I will invent the Korean break in potion. One drop and she is like putty in my hands. An important part of the formula is to extract the essence of currency and put it into liquid form, but have a nice smell. Rub it on your chest and balls and see if she will take the bait. Don't forget to rub your body all over a LV purse and Channel watch and Rolex watch and then let her get a smell. Might work.
Captin Crunch
02-16-11, 13:24
By that I mean like breaking in a stallion to be able to ride it nicely. Hard to do eh, but possible. But a horse is stupid compared to a KBG or AMP chick, so goooooood luck!
In the future I will invent the Korean break in potion. One drop and she is like putty in my hands. An important part of the formula is to extract the essence of currency and put it into liquid form, but have a nice smell. Rub it on your chest and balls and see if she will take the bait. Don't forget to rub your body all over a LV purse and Channel watch and Rolex watch and then let her get a smell. Might work. Master Un Holy. So true. But some of us would look foolish wearing designer stuff with rubba slippas
By that I mean like breaking in a stallion to be able to ride it nicely. Hard to do eh, but possible. But a horse is stupid compared to a KBG or AMP chick, so goooooood luck!
In the future I will invent the Korean break in potion. One drop and she is like putty in my hands. An important part of the formula is to extract the essence of currency and put it into liquid form, but have a nice smell. Rub it on your chest and balls and see if she will take the bait. Don't forget to rub your body all over a LV purse and Channel watch and Rolex watch and then let her get a smell. Might work. So true my friend, once those KBG sharks get a whiff of $$MONEY$$ they become the sweetest "innocent" babes around! But once that odor fades or your wallet empties, then brother you're just a piece of napkin being tossed to the heap pile after they blow out their nose boogas!
Awhile ago, I pulled up front of a Korean bar (Cheers) with my hot red sports car when no one was out smoking, walked in with my jogging pants and t shirt. The KBG's by the entrance all gave me that "WTF" look and ordered a beer at the bar, none came by because I looked like some beat up local that don't have money.
Then when a bunch of those same KBG's were out smoking, I slowly walked passed them and stayed awhile next to my car with the driver's car door open, talking to a friend on the cell. Only then some of them starts smiling and came by admiring the car, one had her arm around mine and wanted to go back inside for a drink!
Bullshit, I split, only goes to say how materialistic those sharks can be. Had they seen me driving up, it'll be a different story. Right?
So true my friend, once those KBG sharks get a whiff of $$MONEY$$ they become the sweetest "innocent" babes around! But once that odor fades or your wallet empties, then brother you're just a piece of napkin being tossed to the heap pile after they blow out their nose boogas!
Awhile ago, I pulled up front of a Korean bar (Cheers) with my hot red sports car when no one was out smoking, walked in with my jogging pants and t shirt. The KBG's by the entrance all gave me that "WTF" look and ordered a beer at the bar, none came by because I looked like some beat up local that don't have money.
Then when a bunch of those same KBG's were out smoking, I slowly walked passed them and stayed awhile next to my car with the driver's car door open, talking to a friend on the cell. Only then some of them starts smiling and came by admiring the car, one had her arm around mine and wanted to go back inside for a drink!
Bullshit, I split, only goes to say how materialistic those sharks can be. Had they seen me driving up, it'll be a different story. Right? Right. Excellent example. I never let them see my vehicle for my own reasons, but do rock the blallah fashions and get judged. Those with the sense enough to take a chance at being civil with me will likely get that first drink unless I'm only scoping the place.
So true my friend, once those KBG sharks get a whiff of $$MONEY$$ they become the sweetest "innocent" babes around! But once that odor fades or your wallet empties, then brother you're just a piece of napkin being tossed to the heap pile after they blow out their nose boogas!
Awhile ago, I pulled up front of a Korean bar (Cheers) with my hot red sports car when no one was out smoking, walked in with my jogging pants and t shirt. The KBG's by the entrance all gave me that "WTF" look and ordered a beer at the bar, none came by because I looked like some beat up local that don't have money.
Then when a bunch of those same KBG's were out smoking, I slowly walked passed them and stayed awhile next to my car with the driver's car door open, talking to a friend on the cell. Only then some of them starts smiling and came by admiring the car, one had her arm around mine and wanted to go back inside for a drink!
Bullshit, I split, only goes to say how materialistic those sharks can be. Had they seen me driving up, it'll be a different story. Right? That's how BGs can be and even society in general. They basically judge a book by its cover. If anyone dresses casual walking into a high end retail store, they'll get overlooked while the people who are nicely dressed get the service and attention. I get that when I dress in my tank top shades and cap looking like a thug. I see security monitoring me in the store like I'm going to steal something. When I dress all GQ in my slacks and collared shirt, I get more attention and people walk up to me asking if I need help.
Heh, don't feel bad. I get rejected because of my skin color and race when I monger in other countries numerous times. Even the mama of the bar told the girl to not go with me. I see the mama giving me the stink eye dirty looks while I sit at the counter with the girl. Heh, in Thailand, the guy at the door questioned me before I can enter the bar. We were with this retired veteran living in Thailand. He knows the owner of the gogo bar and took us around bar hopping. When I walked in that bar, all the customers in there were white males.
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L Blueballs
03-15-11, 20:30
I have found that if you walk in looking crappy, especially if you could use a shower and shave, you get ignored or hooked up with a girl you're not crazy about (nor is she about you) who WILL drink and split. On the other hand, if you're dressed decently, clean, back straight, shoulders back, and walk in like you either own the place or could buy it, but with a pleasant expression on your face, the mama will take note and you'll likely meet a better girl. At this point your odds still suck, but at least you aren't sitting there wondering if you should pay some motormouth 20 to go away and not come back.
K / J/V / CBGs value personal hygiene. Historically, battles were fought by clean, perfumed warriors with makeup; they didn't want to offend their opponents in death (their heads were often taken and displayed) ; call it "consideration for others" or vanity, if you will.
It doesn't mean you're going to get any respect in the bars, but at least you'll look and smell good when the BGs try to take your "head". The weak ones (as witnessed by JRoss at Camelot) get slaughtered no matter how they appear until battle scars are earned.
K / J/V / CBGs value personal hygiene. Historically, battles were fought by clean, perfumed warriors with makeup; they didn't want to offend their opponents in death (their heads were often taken and displayed) ; call it "consideration for others" or vanity, if you will.
It doesn't mean you're going to get any respect in the bars, but at least you'll look and smell good when the BGs try to take your "head". The weak ones (as witnessed by JRoss at Camelot) get slaughtered no matter how they appear until battle scars are earned.Aflack you the man! Luv your point of view, lmao.
Money, money, money, money. Then when something bad happens like a customer short changes her she pulls in one of her customers to console her saying she is going to get out soon. Within a few days, she changes her mind and is back to humping every dick she can get into her for more- money, money, money, money. Then she's thinking, I need more money, money, money so maybe I should go korea and get my boobs done, maybe my nose, and my eyes a little swinty, I should make them bigger- and its okay cause korea is cheap for plastic surgery.
Now back from Korean back to the AMP humping every dick in her way doesn't matter if the guy gets warts all over his face cause at the end of the day. Get one more stack of green- money money money money money. Why be loyal to any guy? Just get as much guys to fuck me regularly as possible for that money money money money money. Who cares if his ass is hairy as hell and his dick is two inches long. Who cares if he deformed and can only fuck if he takes his viagra and she has to turn sideways so he can put it inside and then another way so he can cum all over her tits.
Then when she bored of random guys she calls up one of her favorite customers to give her a good fuck. Once she's satisfied, she ignores him and is back to fucking the fat hairy bastards. This is all okay cause its "just my job".
Iliketowatch
03-27-11, 17:55
Just got back into town. Drove down sheridan, mayas was closed, casino was closed, later found out allstar is closed and maya is buying evergreen? What's up with this? Ended up at business. Sat at the bar next to this young local guy. A girl came over to him with a shot. Cheers and ran away. She came back 15 min. Later with another shot, cheers and gone again. I told the guy, boy she drinks fast. He said that's OK, she my girlfriend. I said you buy your girlfriend drinks? He said that's OK, it's part of her job to look busy. She did this a couple more times, when I said, with a girlfriend like that I'd go broke. He said she treats me to lunch when we go shopping (or translated: when I buy her LV she'll buy me MickyD's). I said (should've kept my mouth shut) you can tell a true girlfriend if she hangs out at your place just for hang out sake otherwise your just a bar boyfriend. I guess she doesn't just hang out, because he got pissed at me. End of bar conversation. I started thinking, I bet if I took this guy to Waikiki to meet chicks and we walked by a art gallery with a hot girl that he was attracted to, he would go in and buy a painting just to talk to her. The next month if saw him and asked, so what happened to that art gallery chick? He would say she's my girlfriend now, I'll be seeing her at the gallery later tonight. Then he would probably tell me, I've seen her every day since then, and if you want to buy any paintings I have 30 paintings at my house for sale. Reminds me of the subway commercial.
Guy: Hello, samantha.
Girl: Hello, todd.
Girl: do you want to be my girlfriend.
Guy: why, sure.
Girl: give me your sandwich.
Guy: I don't think this is working out.
Sound familiar?
Guy: Hi BG.
BG: Hi kimo.
BG: do you want to be my girlfriend.
Guy: why, sure.
BG: give me that Jackson.
Guy: I don't think this working out.
I just the phrase "there's a sucker born every minute" refers to guys, because there seems to less and less girl suckers (you know what I mean) these days.
Guy: Hello, samantha.
Girl: Hello, todd.
Girl: do you want to be my girlfriend.
Guy: why, sure.
Girl: give me your sandwich.
Guy: I don't think this is working out.
Sound familiar? Love that commercial. And Samantha is a hottie too!
Love that commercial. And Samantha is a hottie too!LOL. This is exactly true what these spoiled bitches do!
A girl came over to him with a shot. Cheers and ran away. She came back 15 min. Later with another shot, cheers and gone again. I told the guy, boy she drinks fast. He said that's OK, she my girlfriend. I said you buy your girlfriend drinks? He said that's OK, it's part of her job to look busy. She did this a couple more times, when I said, with a girlfriend like that I'd go broke. He said she treats me to lunch when we go shopping (or translated: when I buy her LV she'll buy me MickyD's). I said (should've kept my mouth shut) you can tell a true girlfriend if she hangs out at your place just for hang out sake otherwise your just a bar boyfriend. I guess she doesn't just hang out, because he got pissed at me. End of bar conversation. Reminds me of the subway commercial.
Guy: Hello, samantha.
Girl: Hello, todd.
Girl: do you want to be my girlfriend.
Guy: why, sure.
Girl: give me your sandwich.
Guy: I don't think this is working out.
Sound familiar?
Guy: Hi BG.
BG: Hi kimo.
BG: do you want to be my girlfriend.
Guy: why, sure.
BG: give me that Jackson.
Guy: I don't think this working out.
I just the phrase "there's a sucker born every minute" refers to guys, because there seems to less and less girl suckers (you know what I mean) these days. Unfortunately it's suckers like these that keeps the bars running and the girls in the dough.
I agree, the girls I had a gf relationship with didn't want me to spend money at the bar or on her. Even now many of the girls I sit with I buy her only 1 drink if any at all and we sit for over an hour or more, usually I stay with her until her customers come in. Sometimes she grabs a tea at the bar and we just sit and talk story and I don't even buy her a drink.
That subway commercial reminded me of a situation I was in about 10 years ago. I was going out with a bar girl, she wanted me to be her bf and (stupidly) I said okay. She called me once to tell me to come visit her and buy her drinks. When I got there I told her that her customers should be buying her drinks, not her bf. She then said that as her bf I was obligated to spend money on her when she doesn't have customers. I looked at her and told her that she got to be f*and joking and walked away and never spoke with her or sat with her ever again. Many of these girls think we are totally stupid, that because they are beautiful we will just throw our money at her and keep her in the dough. Saw that happen at romantei, guy was spending a bundle on tiffany (one of the mama's at mistique). When he finally ran out of money she dumped him on his *ss, total cold hearted be*tch.
Unfortunately it's suckers like these that keeps the bars running and the girls in the dough.
I agree, the girls I had a gf relationship with didn't want me to spend money at the bar or on her. Even now many of the girls I sit with I buy her only 1 drink if any at all and we sit for over an hour or more, usually I stay with her until her customers come in. Sometimes she grabs a tea at the bar and we just sit and talk story and I don't even buy her a drink.
That subway commercial reminded me of a situation I was in about 10 years ago. I was going out with a bar girl, she wanted me to be her bf and (stupidly) I said okay. She called me once to tell me to come visit her and buy her drinks. When I got there I told her that her customers should be buying her drinks, not her bf. She then said that as her bf I was obligated to spend money on her when she doesn't have customers. I looked at her and told her that she got to be f*and joking and walked away and never spoke with her or sat with her ever again. Many of these girls think we are totally stupid, that because they are beautiful we will just throw our money at her and keep her in the dough. Saw that happen at romantei, guy was spending a bundle on tiffany (one of the mama's at mistique). When he finally ran out of money she dumped him on his *ss, total cold hearted be*tch.Yups, that's the only way to see if her "love" is true, if she hangs / fucks you and it requires little or no money. But then you don't know how long it will last- these girls can be very arrogant and its all about. Them them them- who would want to be with them long term anyhow?
Iliketowatch
03-29-11, 16:23
Them them them- who would want to be with them long term anyhow?I'm sorry I cannot answer this question. Jackson will probably ban me because the list would take up 100 pages. It's 99 out of every 100 guys in the bar. I have come to realize that these lonely guys are actually good for the KB's. It's what keeps the KB's in business (although just barely in this economy). If it were up to us guys (play-me not marry-me guys) , there wouldn't be enough girls willing to spread to keep the bars in business. Like I said before, this generation of kbg's are not like their parents. Their parents needed to make cash to survive in life and send cash back home so their families could eat. Do what you got to do attitude. This generation needs cash to survive in the LV and Gucci life. Do what I want to do. Their need is to show-off in life. They don't worry about putting clothes on their backs, they worry about "the brand" of clothes they put on their backs. Think about it, funny how things seem to come full circle. These lonely, desperate duds trying to get in a relationship with these girls, are actually just like them. They only see the looks aspects and fail to see the true character of a person (or lack of character). If the girl is so into looks, why is she with you? Oh, maybe because you look like a handsome past president. Check your wallet and see the resemblance. Maybe you should fly a kite with a key on it, the girls really love that look.
I'm sorry I cannot answer this question. Jackson will probably ban me because the list would take up 100 pages. It's 99 out of every 100 guys in the bar. I have come to realize that these lonely guys are actually good for the KB's. It's what keeps the KB's in business (although just barely in this economy). If it were up to us guys (play-me not marry-me guys) , there wouldn't be enough girls willing to spread to keep the bars in business. Like I said before, this generation of kbg's are not like their parents. Their parents needed to make cash to survive in life and send cash back home so their families could eat. Do what you got to do attitude. This generation needs cash to survive in the LV and Gucci life. Do what I want to do. Their need is to show-off in life. They don't worry about putting clothes on their backs, they worry about "the brand" of clothes they put on their backs. Think about it, funny how things seem to come full circle. These lonely, desperate duds trying to get in a relationship with these girls, are actually just like them. They only see the looks aspects and fail to see the true character of a person (or lack of character). If the girl is so into looks, why is she with you? Oh, maybe because you look like a handsome past president. Check your wallet and see the resemblance. Maybe you should fly a kite with a key on it, the girls really love that look.Heh, I dig your postings that I giggle when I read it. I find it funny because it is true. Makes me want to post something on here.
What makes it more funny is when the chump, duds, BGs, AMP girls read this (I'm sure they do) be thinking: "What are you talking about? I'm not like that! Sorry, but you must be referring to someone else"
Iliketowatch
03-30-11, 21:57
Heh, I dig your postings that I giggle when I read it. I find it funny because it is true. Makes me want to post something on here.
What makes it more funny is when the chump, duds, BGs, AMP girls read this (I'm sure they do) be thinking: "What are you talking about? I'm not like that! Sorry, but you must be referring to someone else"And they are dead serious about it! So convinced, I bet if you gave them a million bucks to either sell their mom to slavery or admit their downfall, they'd say don't forget to write. Just goes to show you, when you are good at fooling other people, you are even better at fooling yourself. But I think I'm turning over a new leaf and not bashing any monger who does what he feels he needs to do. I guess courting a bargirl is easier than holding an erection every night while getting dizzy blowing up the inflatable doll. Oh sorry, old habits are hard to break. More power to you guys. Keep the girls happy. Otherwise there would be no girls working in the KB's and I would have to convince myself that screwing don king at evergreen is not so bad.
And they are dead serious about it! So convinced, I bet if you gave them a million bucks to either sell their mom to slavery or admit their downfall, they'd say don't forget to write. Just goes to show you, when you are good at fooling other people, you are even better at fooling yourself. But I think I'm turning over a new leaf and not bashing any monger who does what he feels he needs to do. I guess courting a bargirl is easier than holding an erection every night while getting dizzy blowing up the inflatable doll. Oh sorry, old habits are hard to break. More power to you guys. Keep the girls happy. Otherwise there would be no girls working in the KB's and I would have to convince myself that screwing don king at evergreen is not so bad.If you got to go to hostess bars and AMPs and that's the only way you can get attention from woman with the help of a stack of $20's, don't be surprized that they USING YOU!
I'm sorry I cannot answer this question. Jackson will probably ban me because the list would take up 100 pages. It's 99 out of every 100 guys in the bar. I have come to realize that these lonely guys are actually good for the KB's. I probably misinterpreted your 99 out of 100 guys at the bar and you were just driving home the point that got too many of the guys persuing kbg relationships, but its nowhere near even say 60% of the bargoers imo. Also, being in the 1% MAY be perceived by some as, I'm=smart, and 99 guys at the bar=stupid which I'm sure was not your intention. IE: if you and I was at the bar same time I would be in the 99% of guys category (not that I shoulnt be with the dummies) hehe. Even with the gf persuors, too horny spend too much guys, too drunk spend too much guys (sometimes guilty) , the no can say no spend too much guys, and the showoff spend too much guys all put together wouldn't be even be 60% of bar patrons imo. Granted they MAY spend 90% of all $ spent on any given night at the bar but I don't think its even a majority of bar patrons that are the overspenders. The overspenders spoil the girls and is bad for the rest of us. Who cares what is good for the bar? What about the mongers? I also rather educate the new guys rather than bash them. We all noobs and was stupid too at one time wernt were? But I know thats your intent too (I think) and I enjoy your posts too. Pretty much agree with your assessment of kbg and for me the typical kbg of this generation is simply greedy and spoiled, but have to say there are a FEW exceptions. These are just my views and opinions and aint saying its correct, its just my take. I'm still learning like everyone else and thats just my. 02 cents.
I'm sorry I cannot answer this question. Jackson will probably ban me because the list would take up 100 pages. It's 99 out of every 100 guys in the bar. I have come to realize that these lonely guys are actually good for the KB's. I probably misinterpreted your 99 out of 100 guys at the bar and you were just driving home the point that got too many of the guys persuing kbg relationships, but its nowhere near even say 60% of the bargoers imo. Also, being in the 1% MAY be perceived by some as, I'm=smart, and 99 guys at the bar=stupid which I'm sure was not your intention. IE: if you and I was at the bar same time I would be in the 99% of guys category (not that I shoulnt be with the dummies) hehe. Even with the gf persuors, too horny spend too much guys, too drunk spend too much guys (sometimes guilty) , the no can say no spend too much guys, and the showoff spend too much guys all put together wouldn't be even be 60% of bar patrons imo. Granted they MAY spend 90% of all $ spent on any given night at the bar but I don't think its even a majority of bar patrons that are the overspenders. The overspenders spoil the girls and is bad for the rest of us. Who cares what is good for the bar? What about the mongers? I also rather educate the new guys rather than bash them. We all noobs and was stupid too at one time wernt were? But I know thats your intent too (I think) and I enjoy your posts too. Pretty much agree with your assessment of kbg and for me the typical kbg of this generation is simply greedy and spoiled, but have to say there are a FEW exceptions. Imo. These are just my views and opinions and aint saying its correct, its just my take. I'm still learning like everyone else and thats just my. 02 cents.
What makes it more funny is when the chump, duds, BGs, AMP girls read this (I'm sure they do) be thinking: "What are you talking about? I'm not like that! Sorry, but you must be referring to someone else"It's the "she's not like the others; she is different" misapprehension that gets dudes in trouble.
I probably misinterpreted your 99 out of 100 guys at the bar and you were just driving home the point that got too many of the guys persuing kbg relationships, but its nowhere near even say 60% of the bargoers imo. Also, being in the 1% MAY be perceived by some as, I'm=smart, and 99 guys at the bar=stupid which I'm sure was not your intention. IE: if you and I was at the bar same time I would be in the 99% of guys category (not that I shoulnt be with the dummies) hehe. Even with the gf persuors, too horny spend too much guys, too drunk spend too much guys (sometimes guilty) , the no can say no spend too much guys, and the showoff spend too much guys all put together wouldn't be even be 60% of bar patrons imo. Granted they MAY spend 90% of all $ spent on any given night at the bar but I don't think its even a majority of bar patrons that are the overspenders. The overspenders spoil the girls and is bad for the rest of us. Who cares what is good for the bar? What about the mongers? I also rather educate the new guys rather than bash them. We all noobs and was stupid too at one time wernt were? But I know thats your intent too (I think) and I enjoy your posts too. Pretty much agree with your assessment of kbg and for me the typical kbg of this generation is simply greedy and spoiled, but have to say there are a FEW exceptions. Imo. These are just my views and opinions and aint saying its correct, its just my take. I'm still learning like everyone else and thats just my. 02 cents.Oldee, I'm sure Iliketowatch was exaggerating on the 1 and 99 thing. But, from a general standpoint, most men do kiss up to women and cater to them. We all catch ourselves doing this. We spend more on a given night than other nights. Heh, this explains why there are those nights that we are suckered and splurge more than we should. But, like you mentioned (good point BTW) , someone may see me splurging on a BG on that very night but, it doesn't mean I constantly do it. But, someone may see me differently that night and assume that I must do that everytime I go hostess bar. Example: a BG I splurged on her on 1 night, she thinks I'm a possible regular that will splurge on her on the next visit. Hehe. Or, the BGs notice and think they can get drinks off of me also. There are those times where I don't mind being Robbed by a BG. LOL. It would be boring if I'm always turning down a BG that approaches me for drinks, where's the fun in that? The ones I want to warn are the guys who constantly pursue and fall for the girl. The money is one thing that he splurging but, when it gets to a point where he's emotionally attached to her is the big problem.
Iliketowatch
04-01-11, 18:06
Oldee, I'm sure Iliketowatch was exaggerating on the 1 and 99 thing. But, from a general standpoint, most men do kiss up to women and cater to them.The last time I measure I was 12 inches long. Oh Sh*t, is this a centimeter ruler?
Hey Uki, I guess you get my sarcasm. %'s are not the point. Taking things in the KB's too seriously is what get people in trouble. Have fun in the bars. It's entertainment. Isn't it?
Hey oldee. I disagree with you. You ARE in the 1. It's not if you buy drinks. It's if you understand the consequence of your actions. It's understanding the reality of your actions and not fooling yourself into thinking 1 + 1 = 2 in the KB's. The only arithmetic in the bars is how many drinks I can get. Too many guys treat female bar companionship as life and death. If she does this. . . Then she must like me, if she treat me like this. . . Then, if she blah, blah, blah. . . Then she must REALLY. . ! What seems like blashing is just a guy with 30 years Kb experience trying to knock some sense into a fellow guy.
Maybe I was lucky when I was young mongering with older friends (20 years my superior). They always told me,"boy, leave your heart in the car otherwise she will rip it out and serve it as pupus to her next victim". I would say,"but she seems so nice". They would reply,"shut up and drink your heinny or go drink by yourself and learn the hard way". I drank my beer.
Have fun! Do you know what % (uki help me with the % so I don't get flack) , of people who loved going to vegas to gamble for fun and are now broke because they moved to vegas thinking they could be a pro gambler? Vegas is for fun, the KB's are for fun, the odds are with the house. We put too much merit in the few successes and not enough on the enormous failures.
I harp on the failures for one and only one reason. Every bar I go to, at least 1 guy (per bar) will ask me,"so how's that girl?","she's not like the rest of them","she treats me differently", blah, blah, blah. Guess whos' in love? When I reply with what you don't want to hear, I get that "you don't know sh*t look" from you. Times this with 5 different bars a night. It's get old fast. Ask my opinion, get my opinion. So bash me next time I reply to you with,"she's special, you should marry her", and reality sets in because I gave you "wrong" advise. Hey if I wrong, you're getting laid. If I'm right. . . I'm just trying to pass down what my teachers have passed down to me. Have fun, drink your beer, and keep your head (small head) down when you're in the DMZ (the mongering zone).
The last time I measure I was 12 inches long. Oh Sh*t, is this a centimeter ruler?
Hey Uki, I guess you get my sarcasm. %'s are not the point. Taking things in the KB's too seriously is what get people in trouble. Have fun in the bars. It's entertainment. Isn't it?
Hey oldee. I disagree with you. You ARE in the 1. It's not if you buy drinks. It's if you understand the consequence of your actions. It's understanding the reality of your actions and not fooling yourself into thinking 1 + 1 = 2 in the KB's. The only arithmetic in the bars is how many drinks I can get. Too many guys treat female bar companionship as life and death. If she does this. . . Then she must like me, if she treat me like this. . . Then, if she blah, blah, blah. . . Then she must REALLY. . ! What seems like blashing is just a guy with 30 years Kb experience trying to knock some sense into a fellow guy.
Maybe I was lucky when I was young mongering with older friends (20 years my superior). They always told me,"boy, leave your heart in the car otherwise she will rip it out and serve it as pupus to her next victim". I would say,"but she seems so nice". They would reply,"shut up and drink your heinny or go drink by yourself and learn the hard way". I drank my beer.
Have fun! Do you know what % (uki help me with the % so I don't get flack) , of people who loved going to vegas to gamble for fun and are now broke because they moved to vegas thinking they could be a pro gambler? Vegas is for fun, the KB's are for fun, the odds are with the house. We put too much merit in the few successes and not enough on the enormous failures.
I harp on the failures for one and only one reason. Every bar I go to, at least 1 guy (per bar) will ask me,"so how's that girl?","she's not like the rest of them","she treats me differently", blah, blah, blah. Guess whos' in love? When I reply with what you don't want to hear, I get that "you don't know sh*t look" from you. Times this with 5 different bars a night. It's get old fast. Ask my opinion, get my opinion. So bash me next time I reply to you with,"she's special, you should marry her", and reality sets in because I gave you "wrong" advise. Hey if I wrong, you're getting laid. If I'm right. . . I'm just trying to pass down what my teachers have passed down to me. Have fun, drink your beer, and keep your head (small head) down when you're in the DMZ (the mongering zone).How many NON posters do you think come seeking info on girls here, not the advise of the masters who has been there and done them. Where I see a lot of masters giving each other advise on the path away from the dark side I also see the generation gap of both mongers as well as the KBG. Our experiences may have been fun as well as dangerous for some but the younglings, in bradas 'ilike2watch' wisdom 'the 99', they will have to experience there own taste of the dark side to understand us masters. In another post regarding $2 dollar KBG drinks in the old times is something that only us masters will remember the next gen, our sons will probably have to deal with $200 KBG drinks. Thank goodness we don't live forever. Be safe on and off the GRID.
Buck N Ham
04-02-11, 00:44
Just got back into town. Drove down sheridan, mayas was closed, casino was closed, later found out allstar is closed and maya is buying evergreen? What's up with this? Ended up at business. Sat at the bar next to this young local guy. A girl came over to him with a shot. Cheers and ran away. She came back 15 min. Later with another shot, cheers and gone again. I told the guy, boy she drinks fast. He said that's OK, she my girlfriend. I said you buy your girlfriend drinks? He said that's OK, it's part of her job to look busy. She did this a couple more times, when I said, with a girlfriend like that I'd go broke. He said she treats me to lunch when we go shopping (or translated: when I buy her LV she'll buy me MickyD's). I said (should've kept my mouth shut) you can tell a true girlfriend if she hangs out at your place just for hang out sake otherwise your just a bar boyfriend. I guess she doesn't just hang out, because he got pissed at me. End of bar conversation. I started thinking, I bet if I took this guy to Waikiki to meet chicks and we walked by a art gallery with a hot girl that he was attracted to, he would go in and buy a painting just to talk to her. The next month if saw him and asked, so what happened to that art gallery chick? He would say she's my girlfriend now, I'll be seeing her at the gallery later tonight. Then he would probably tell me, I've seen her every day since then, and if you want to buy any paintings I have 30 paintings at my house for sale. Reminds me of the subway commercial.
Guy: Hello, samantha.
Girl: Hello, todd.
Girl: do you want to be my girlfriend.
Guy: why, sure.
Girl: give me your sandwich.
Guy: I don't think this is working out.
Sound familiar?
Guy: Hi BG.
BG: Hi kimo.
BG: do you want to be my girlfriend.
Guy: why, sure.
BG: give me that Jackson.
Guy: I don't think this working out.
I just the phrase "there's a sucker born every minute" refers to guys, because there seems to less and less girl suckers (you know what I mean) these days. I think I was the guy at the bar. NAH!
LOL with the Subway ref. Thanks for the advice.
Few days ago Pharaoh bartender Sara / Sarah got stinking pilut on Bacardi 151 shots and beer. Went around the joint like a shark without its tail, trying to munch more money from the room she was in with some Kguy, every guy on the counter and in the booths.
Nearly broke the glass entry door going outside to yell and scream at the same Kguy in the parking lot; she wanted to drive her car but they took her keys, saving one of us from injury.
Sick for the next three days and embarrassed (as usual, from her T-Time days) for a couple days more. Ah, the smell of money chum in the water brings out the best in them. Other bartender Ji Yong had five shot of the same; but that's another story.
Damage to the Bacardi: before, full; after, half bottle. Feel more sorry for the bottle.
Iliketowatch
04-02-11, 18:38
I know I can stick the knife in pretty deep at times, even giving it a few extra twists. My apologies if I offended anyone personally. I've always had my core friends to keep me in check, so I guess since all my drinking buddies have passed onto the great bar in the sky, and those that are down under chasing the kitchen momma's in the heat of hells kitchen, I will always try to protect my fellow monger, especially the loverboys. The "war" between the KGB, oh KGB is Russia, I mean KBG and us guys must not divide us. Intriguing transposition of letters! Back to my point. If standard issue at every table was a lie detector, then I would rest in peace. Since it's not, please humor me while I let off my steam occasionally here. Since being back from overseas, I have been enlightened with a brand new perspective though. I've taken my nephew with me a couple of times to the KB's. I think he' 27 years younger. He likes the cheap beers, compared to the local bars and nightclub prices, but he just cannot get into paying a girl to sit with him. The girls approach him and ask for a drink, and he says no thank you, but give me your digits and we can hook up later. They leave in disgust and I always tell him, you're cold dude. He says no I'm not, our generation doesn't play games. She knows what's going on. If she likes me, I'll know. I don't have to pay to know, reading her actions are free. He says, my generation can separate lust and love, yours cannot. Smart kid. What is my sister teaching him? He says we are an impatient generation. We want it now, the girls want it now, so don't play games and delay things, just state your case and that's it. I tell him but wouldn't you want to bang her? He says, sure but, reality is, the girls nowadays don't what to brag that their bf is rich, they want to brag he's HOT! Hot girls like hot guys, if I want sex I lower my standards. I said if I lowered my standards to a girl that matched my look, it would be like the show where they compare the looks of the owner to their pet. I once had a bulldog. He said, you can chase a dream all your life, or you can fu*k a nightmare. I'm not a lady killer, so reality sucks, and she suck pretty good! Who is this kid? I tell him he has much wisdom and he says no, he just know his generation's quirk's. Best we learn, because we are dealing with their generation now.
If there were a bullshit detector at every table, it would be set off everytime someone speaks. The girls BS as do the customers.
If there were a bullshit detector at every table, it would be set off everytime someone speaks. The girls BS as do the customers.The BS detector would be broken!
If there was a deck of cards to play BS it would never end.
If there were a bullshit detector at every table, it would be set off everytime someone speaks. The girls BS as do the customers.In my view, BSing is a requirement skill to have by mongers in order to have fun and survive the girl's opposite BS game. Its what we as humans do anyway in our daily life. If you say no then you are BSing, LOL.
If there were a bullshit detector at every table, it would be set off everytime someone speaks. The girls BS as do the customers.Maybe they should wear lie detectors similar in technology to the one on that episode of Gilligan's Island but in necklace form. Then the bar will be full of red lights when they say things such as: "Hunnee I be bekk 3 minutes; hunney I drink slow for you; hunnee geev me yo numba I call you we go out; I'm tired to walk bar, buy me 5 drink I take kea you; MMM, dis Crown, smell like tea, but no worry, dis Crown; Hunnee, 350 is cheapest bottle we have, I make you heppee", etc. etc. etc. etc.
If there were a bullshit detector at every table, it would be set off everytime someone speaks. The girls BS as do the customers.I agree, every Kb should have a BS detector.
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Maybe they should wear lie detectors similar in technology to the one on that episode of Gilligan's Island but in necklace form. Then the bar will be full of red lights when they say things such as: "Hunnee I be bekk 3 minutes; hunney I drink slow for you; hunnee geev me yo numba I call you we go out; I'm tired to walk bar, buy me 5 drink I take kea you; MMM, dis Crown, smell like tea, but no worry, dis Crown; Hunnee, 350 is cheapest bottle we have, I make you heppee", etc. etc. etc. etc.A man may lie to a woman thinking he'll impress the woman and she'll fall for him. But, the woman isn't all that impressed. She senses that it's obvious he's boasting his way into having her fall for him or put out for him. Heh, some guys are not that smooth in lieing. A woman will lie to a man because she knows what a man wants to hear. But, she don't mean what she says. The men on the other hand, aren't as good as sensing a womens motive. Most men are all caught up admiring her looks, smile and her sweet tone of voice to notice a womans ulterior motive.
Example: "You ask a BG to go do something after the bar closes. You mention to her about going clubbing later on. At that moment, if you mention it to her, she'll just agree and say yes to not discourage you by saying no. She knows most guys going push the issue and say: "why not? Cmon let's go!" So, she says yes to avoid that and satisfy what you want to hear at that moment. Then, she finds a way to suddenly cancel on you and avoid the whole thing. Sly huh? It's her other means of saying no. But, she doesn't want to literally tell you no. Because then she'll have to back it up with a reason. Heh, if she says yes at first and later cancels, it gives her more time to come up with a reason. Who knows, hopefully you'll just forget the whole thing and she doesn't even need to bother explaining.
Example: "You ask a BG to go do something after the bar closes. You mention to her about going clubbing later on. At that moment, if you mention it to her, she'll just agree and say yes to not discourage you by saying no. She knows most guys going push the issue and say: "why not? Cmon let's go!" So, she says yes to avoid that and satisfy what you want to hear at that moment. Then, she finds a way to suddenly cancel on you and avoid the whole thing. Sly huh? It's her other means of saying no. But, she doesn't want to literally tell you no. Because then she'll have to back it up with a reason. Heh, if she says yes at first and later cancels, it gives her more time to come up with a reason. Who knows, hopefully you'll just forget the whole thing and she doesn't even need to bother explaining.This is something that definitely is not only a BG thing; j-girl tourists have been doing it forever. Back in the day, my studly coworkers easily picked-up j-girls, got action, sometimes got infected, and on occassion got them pregnant. The non-studly ones got your Example exactly.
I never bother asking a BG out and decline when they offer, but do expect them to conduct business without feeding me heaps of obvious manure (hence the silly Gilligan reference when bumping shoulders with JR :)).
K-AMP girls who have been straight with me, on the other hand, I will ask if I feel comfortable doing so. They tell me straight if they don't want to or can't, and keep their word if they agree.
A man may lie to a woman thinking he'll impress the woman and she'll fall for him. But, the woman isn't all that impressed. She senses that it's obvious he's boasting his way into having her fall for him or put out for him. Heh, some guys are not that smooth in lieing.
BGs have a keen BS detector so as you said, the guy better be smooth. In all my years sitting at the bar, I've heard some whoppers. The funniest ones were: "Honey! Remember that house you were talking about? I just put an offer in on it!" (I just bought a new house and put the old one on the market. I was dating the bartender and she spent time at that house and knew it was mine. No DROA was sent to me.) Another one was a guy claiming to be an attorney at XXX law firm. One of the firm's partners was sitting at the bar and was asking the guy questions, then told him who he was. It was pretty funny as it turns out the guy wasn't even an attorney.
Iliketowatch
04-03-11, 18:40
I agree, every Kb should have a BS detector.Now that I think about it, every bar does have a lie detector. The mighty nekohana. What happens (or doesn't happen) between you and the bg because you refuse to buy them a drink is the best truth potion you could ask for. Try it. Don't buy them a drink and start grabbing them, ask for after hours sex, backseat BJ's, and "for you romantics" ask her to be your gf. She will say OK, you know you are the first person to ask me this, that's the main reason why I decided to work at a bar. Money is overrarted. You don't know how tough it is in the real world to give away free sex. Everyone thinks you have an alterior motive. Being hot is so tough finding a nice guy. But the bar guys are way more handsome than I will ever find in the real world. You can't trust guys except when they are in the bars. I'm glad I met you and you didn't force me to drink. Slap! OK, I'm awake now. On the flip side, the bg's use their lie detector, the customer dick. It's the drinkee versus the sex battle. 1st to give in loses. Can she go longer not asking you for money, or can you go longer not asking her for sex? Beep! She loses. She'll always ask 1st. Beep! We lose because we don't hold this against her. Go to the bar and say to the first kbg you see, you are my first kbg today, how about some good luck sex, come on it's slow today, I get good pupus for you in my backpack. Sorry, got to go now, O. J. Is trying to skype me.
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