15th Ave Bookstore [Archive] - Page 4

HappyGardener

06-24-08, 22:50

FROM HER:

Okay a little more advance notice this time. :) I am goin outta town
Fri to a kinky camp convention.. will be LOTS of crazy shinanigans
going on there. I cant stop masterbating in anticipation about it..
soooo.. I figured I could at LEAST do that in front of you guys.. AND
hopefully also get fucked.. AND hopefully also have cum dripping all
over me at the end like the nasty dirty cum bucket who will spread her
legs for any cock I AM! :) As usual.. condoms required.. and they
better STAY on. All **** fucking.. no sucking and no fingers inside me.
And YESSS making me a nice hot drippy cumbucket at the end would be OH
SO NICE.. please?

Note.. I dont post pics.. but nor do I require pics from you. I am girl
next door looking. Wouldnt notice me much in public most likely..
well.. unless of course I was naked with my legs spread open just
WAITING for you to plunge that cock inside me!!!

MWM

06-26-08, 18:27

HG did you make it? I was going to go but had plans with a regular who ended up blowing me off. Damn sad I didn't blow her off and go see Femcar for the first time.

[QUOTE=HappyGardener]FROM HER:

Okay a little more advance notice this time. :) I am goin outta town
Fri to a kinky camp convention.. will be LOTS of crazy shinanigans
going on there. I cant stop masterbating in anticipation about it..
soooo.. I figured I could at LEAST do that in front of you guys.. AND
hopefully also get fucked.. AND hopefully also have cum dripping all
over me at the end like the nasty dirty cum bucket who will spread her
legs for any cock I AM! :) As usual.. condoms required.. and they
better STAY on. All **** fucking.. no sucking and no fingers inside me.
And YESSS making me a nice hot drippy cumbucket at the end would be OH
SO NICE.. please?

Chadwick

06-26-08, 18:52

Went to 15th ave bookstore for the first time today,the reports were not wrong.Got there around 12:45 seeing as the post said Femcar would be there between 1 and 2, I paid the girl at the desk .20 and another .03 for the raincoats and entered the theater.This was my first time and I was surprised at the size of it, for anyone who hasn't been there there are 4 seats on either side much like those you would see at a stadium and maybe 15 rows. I waited patiently not knowing what to expect near the back of the theater. There were quite a few guys there at one time I counted as many as 30, and then all of a sudden around 1:30 she walked in, I was pleasantly surprised at her looks I would say she is a strong seven maybe an eight with a nice rack. She went strait to the couch in the front and everyone followed suit, I looked over and the guy next to me was viciously beating off his cock, it was at this point I realized this was real. She disrobed and that same guy got right behind he and stated handling business, there were a lot of guys just trying to play with her breasts and a lot of others just watching and masturbating. Which I do have to say was a bit strange, that guy finished in a minute or two and the next guy jumped in for a minute or two, it was then that I pushed through and got behind her. I was in there like a heavyweight champion just pounding her, listening to her moans and looking at her trying to get the idea of 30 other guys being there out of my mind. I didn't last very long maybe two minutes because of the combination of her being so hot and horny, and the fact that I really had to flog myself to get a hardon around all those guys, almost like performance anxiety!I now have a new level of respect for porn stars, its not easy, I took my cock out of her and walked out of the circle to take the condom off and there was a couple there in the front row watching(older and not very attractive).I threw the condom out and left, it was cool and creepy all at the same time. I have paid hundreds of dollars to have sex with women that were not half as hot as her, but the other guys that's going to take some getting used to! All in all it was awesome and she is a very generous, beautiful lady. So to Femcar thanks you are a one of a kind, and to all you other guys that haven't been there this **** is for real.

Gary Man

06-26-08, 22:31

To continue HG's post

From Her, today:

"WOAH AWESOME cocks today

Joe said he had to turn the music up in front to drown out my screaming! THANK YOU all for the hard POUNDING! I really needed that! And also for the gobs and gobs of cum! I was a very lucky girl to be so well used today. :) "

IcedOut

06-27-08, 14:03

You are 100% right about femcar and about the experience there with her. The mob scene actually is fairly behaved for her. Not always so well behaved for others. Not sure she is one of a kind. There are others like her such as Sheba who go there too. Its a shame that mob scene has scared off so many couples and single women going there. But at 20. A person its money the place can't afford to turn away. They go almost every day. That's a lot of money.Thanks for another useless and repetitive report.

HappyGardener

06-27-08, 14:35

HG did you make it?

Yes I went. There were way too many guys. I knew I was in trouble when I had to park down the street because the parking lot was full. Good for her, but bad for the ambiance. Actually it was too many guys just standing around watching. But then again half the gang bangs I go to are like that. chingons and chadwicks and now fireman pervs description is very accurate. I dont undrestand the guys who just stand there and do nothing. At least play with your dick or something.

I did bring a friend with me today. No we were not the couple in the front row. We watched for awhile, retired to a booth, and then came back in to the theatre to watch the cumbath. She was a little freaked out by the zombie/wolfpack. We were followed by 10 guys when we went to the booths. We played in the seats, but she decided that she only wanted me to touch her. Its the second woman i have brought there, and both have been freaked out by the wolfpack.

Gary Man

06-27-08, 15:18

Festivities should start around 7p. There may not be enough cock tonight for these two: Sheba and wiswife4use.

Wiswife4use posted: ". OK. We're going to do it and visit Melrose tonight and Saturday. We will be leaving shortly. We plan on getting there between 6-7:30 and stay until the fun /sex stops.

I'm VERY horny, and eager to be pleased and please! I 'm hoping to be fucking & sucking HARD cock nonstop for hours! Rubbers required/demanded for fucking. I love my pussy and tits sucked and played with.

Yes, I'm still apprehensive, but hoping all you guys will make us feel safe and comfortable.

PLEASE be nice, clean, not pushy, and prepared to present a HARD cock! If your not hard please be polite and give other guys (assuming there are other guys) space. You will get a turn.

I am hoping this will be an unforgetable exprience that will be repeated over & over again. "

Sheba should be there about 8p and repeat Saturday;

Sheba posted:

"we are planning to cum down to melrose this Friday night for some fun. We will be there around 8PM and staying for about 4-5 hours maybe more if action is good. Saturday night also and will post what time we will be back on Saturday night. As always She wants to get fucked good and hard as well as maybe a huge circle jerk or gangbang in the spa and as always CONDOMS ARE REQUIRED & you must be STD FREE and Personal Hygiene is a MUST! LOL.

Looking to have fun all through the weekend on Friday night and Saturday night so hope we get a great turn out for her. Hope to see those two young men that got her worked up in the spa the last time we were there and she wants more this time boys. As well as a few of our regular friends that come and play too.

Remember Give us our space and ALWAYS ASK PERMISSION to play with or touch her! AS ALWAYS I will be taking pictures and vids for our use and will edit all faces out as well as markings if used on posts. Otherwise lets have fun this weekend! "

Fireman Perv

06-27-08, 20:06

I have been a member of this forum for about 9 months and check and read the forum daily. I have never posted but I do have a good pulse of what the bookstore is all about. I have been to the bookstore two times in the past. Both times on weekdays and without a trace of anything female. I reserved myself to only go when someone the likes of Femcar was posting to be there. Yesterday was that day. I showed up like the other 30 guys and roamed obout waiting for Femcar. I was a little nervous about performing in front of so many but as soon as Femcar arrived I followed her to the front of the Theatre. I have heard alot about the wolfpack and was wondering how so many guys would behave with one girl. Maybe I'm a little more of a Perv than most because not only did I go first, I went two more times (She even said I was making her squirt) and particapated in the circle jerk all over Femcar. The Wolfpack was very respectful and orderly. I loved every minuite of it. I did feel like a porn star and everyone watching did not make me limp, it made me harder. I came 4 times. I felt like a teenager again. Just wanted to say thank to Femcar. I hope we meet again. I'm thinking about getting into making Porn because of you.

Chicago Biker

06-28-08, 01:54

We played in the seats, but she decided that she only wanted me to touch her. Its the second woman i have brought there, and both have been freaked out by the wolfpack.

And for all the single guys who always wonder why they aren't invited to a Swing Party, there is your answer.

Biker

Fireman Perv

06-28-08, 11:54

And for all the single guys who always wonder why they aren't invited to a Swing Party, there is your answer.

BikerI guess that I was part of that wolfpack. I do understand that the situation would cause the common lady to be freaked out. But the fact is that the common ladies are not what you would expect to see at the bookstore. If she gets freaked out then maybe the bookstore is not the right place for her. The Wolfpack did keep distance from her. Nobody tried to touch her and she did put on a show with Happygardener after watching Femcar put on her show with the pack so must have felt somewhat at ease I'm sorry if she didnt feel at ease but the bookstore is what it is.

Gary Man

06-28-08, 14:05

Apparently last night was not enough for Sheba. This woman is insatiable!

Sheba @ Melrose tonight between 7&8pm

They posted:

"...shell is still in bed sleeping after last night, she went for 5-6 hours at melrose then another 3 hours (till past 5am) back at the hotel lol with Q..."

AND

"Hey all we want to thank those that played with sheba last night especially in the spa and she loved it. Angelo really fucked her good and she wants more.

We will be at the playhouse tonight and she wants to get fucked, her pussy pounded hard and fast and as many as are willing, she has yet to be wore out at melrose so looking for that special night where she cant take anymore. As usual Condoms are required and must be STD free and personal hygiene is a must. we will be playing in the booths (door open) tonight as well as in the theater if there are willing participants if not then we will head to the spa for fun. hope to get about 40 men to do her good and pound that pussy.

also will be taking vids and pictures and as always will edit faces and marks out. see you there"

HappyGardener

06-29-08, 11:55

I guess that I was part of that wolfpack. I do understand that the situation would cause the common lady to be freaked out. But the fact is that the common ladies are not what you would expect to see at the bookstore. If she gets freaked out then maybe the bookstore is not the right place for her. The Wolfpack did keep distance from her. Nobody tried to touch her and she did put on a show with Happygardener after watching Femcar put on her show with the pack so must have felt somewhat at ease I'm sorry if she didnt feel at ease but the bookstore is what it is.

I did see you there at the bookstore, Perv. i was close enough to Femcar when i saw/heard you talk to her in the swing on your third time. So I know you speak the truth about your performance. In all seriousness, good for you that you were able to perform so well!. It is a unique ennviroment.

Actually this was my ladyfriends second visit. The first time we were there, there was nothing going on, except for 3 or 4 guys in the theatre. She expressed an interest in seeing Femcar. I knew what was going to happen, tried to prepare her, but until you experience it, I dont think you understand.

Yes the store is what it is. I have lost track of how many times i have been there so i know what it is. Wrong on guys touching her. If keeping a distance is less than a foot, then i guess they did. One guy tried to kiss her, another guys hand kept touching mine on her ass, and one guys dick kept hitting my leg as he was beating off. Intentional or not, I dont know. And before the posts start about how, "If that guy touched my leg, I would kick his ass," once you cross the line into multi partner hotel parties, you get used to seeing a lot of free swinging dicks. Look if i wasnt an exhibtionist, I would not be able to do it in the first place. Re her, she is becoming one of my subs, and she is going to do what i ask/tell her to do anyway.

It is different when you are the center of the wolfpacks attention versus being part of the wolfpack. As pepole jockey for position, they get closer and closer. I think any woman, nay any person, is going to feel apprehension at being the center of an ever tightening circle.

Gary Man

06-29-08, 15:08

Sheba returns again tonight!! 8p-1a

AND

Get your Asian fix: Angel tonight 10p-12p

Fireman Perv

06-29-08, 16:21

Happygardener and others, I appoligize, I was watching during the show you put on and I had no knowledge of the touching and sometimes rude displays you mentioned. As I stated before, I'm a longtime reader of the forum but a shorttime particapant in the ongoings of the Bookstore. From the postings it was obvious to me of the rules to keep your distance and only play if invited. I hate to beat a dead horse but the bookstore is a great thing. I just hope that the few that can't play with respect for the bounderies and keep thier distance don't ruin a good thing. Everyone has different comfort levels. Maybe it was hard for some of the pack to stay away after seeing Femcar take on commers.

Tattered Man

06-30-08, 18:09

As per her post:

"yes baby at the regular time 7 to 10:30pm i am ravenous now needing to be fucked as much as possible. see you there"

Gary Man

07-02-08, 04:28

she posted:

[qote]Thurs night.. 7 tillllll 9
as long as the cocks are hard and the cocks are FUKKKKIN and SPURRRTIN!![/quote]

Artificial Red

07-02-08, 16:19

Yes I went. There were way too many guys. I knew I was in trouble when I had to park down the street because the parking lot was full. Good for her, but bad for the ambiance. Actually it was too many guys just standing around watching. But then again half the gang bangs I go to are like that. chingons and chadwicks and now fireman pervs description is very accurate. I dont undrestand the guys who just stand there and do nothing. At least play with your dick or something.Hello all, I've not had the pleasure of attending one of the gang bangs or even made a visit to this theatre, however, I was inspired to add to the discussion, in regards to the comment expressing a lack of understanding for the guys who just stand there.

I realize that I would quite possibly be one of the guys who just stands there, and I'm not sure if I would have my cock out or not. I am very much interested in viewing a gangbang in person, however I'm very confident that I would not want to participate. I can't say for sure how I would react to the situation as I have not been in the situation.

The main reason I have never attended, is my being unsure of how I would react to the situation, and if I find that I do not want to participate, I don't want to be one of the assholes blocking the view, or more importantly, blocking the action from taking place.

So, I would fall into the type of bystander who just wants to watch. I'm sure there are other reasons for different guys, which I would assume more than not is some type of insecurity, be it, body type, cock size, or just plain nervousness.

Red

Gary Man

07-03-08, 15:56

I tried to post this late last night, but the servers were updating, or something...

Femcar will be there tonight but it's going to cost you. The bookstore is having a BBQ: $50.00/couple or $50.00/single person. You'll get some of Chef Joe's finest BBQ, beverages (BYOB) and both theater AND spa access 6:30p until midnight.

Femcar said she would be there 7p-8p for the BBQ "and then the spa from 8 til.. well.. I am done for the night. :) Which will depend on how my cervix is being treated. :) "

Gary Man

07-03-08, 16:16

Nancy B and Avida will also be at the BBQ tonight.

Lvrndazz

07-03-08, 19:49

Guy's I have to tell you something, I stopped by the bookstore with my girlfriend. We went into the theature for a min. turned around and headed for the booths to checkout the movies, there was a f***ing line of you animals following us around like it was the first piece of pu**y you guy's have ever seen! I mean she was sitting in a chair and I was standing by the door and I had two loosers try to push me out of the way to take a look. I said to the crowd back the F**k off If we want you to see something we will ask you to join in. Guy's your rude behavor is going to scare any new women that come there and if your not respectful to the man thats with her you may find yourself loooking for your teeth on the floor. Im sure its nobody on this site. Right?
Lvrndazz

Single Dad

07-04-08, 10:24

50 fee Thursday night got you into theater and spa, free beer and burgers. Avida, Femcar, Nancy b, and maybe 5 other women there, but I don't know their names. At least 5 women playing at one time or another, manageable crowd, good night. Special shout out to 20 something blonde who rode me like a champ on the couch.

Jimjamesx

07-04-08, 21:26

Tomti

07-05-08, 16:44

Fuck and suck, and a very sweet and pretty girl at that. All the usual girl players are sweet as could be, fifty was a great deal but you did not even have to spend that much to play with nancy, femcar and honey since they spent a lot of time in the theater as well as the spa and party room. Also, there is a great looking blond that only plays with her hubby? In the couples section of the theater and she is a knock out. I have noticed that over the past few weeks, she is becoming more adventurous imo. Great night had by all. We are very lucky to have a place like the playhouse in our back yard.

Thanks owners.

Rocketman37

07-09-08, 19:49

Hi folks,

I'm curious about a couple of things. Please feel free to reply privately.

I've never been to the store, but I've read quite a few reports here. I'm wondering if someone can help clue me in on the procedures to follow. I'm not talking about when in the room, but rather when first arriving (where to go, where to pay, what happens where, etc).

Also, I've noticed some discussion about a group that's on a very popular website starting with a "y." My search for this group has turned up fruitless. Can anyone help out here?

Again, private replies are welcome and encouraged, unless you think this would help the general readership of the board.

Thanks!

Gary Man

07-10-08, 01:28

For you Sheba and NancyB fans, you can see them in action at: www.bangmyslut.com

Pics and Vids. I was very impressed by nancyB's exploits, if she wanted to, she could star in a MILF porn series.

Chadwick

07-10-08, 17:49

For you Sheba and NancyB fans, you can see them in action at: www.bangmyslut.com

Pics and Vids. I was very impressed by nancyB's exploits, if she wanted to, she could star in a MILF porn series.With all do respect, for those of you have not seen the women, Femcar is by far the hottest of the girls I have seen(Nancy B and Sheba on film)and Femcar in person.And I would say Nancy B would be next then Sheba, the thing is that from what I've seen there are more options with these girls than Femcar.As when I was there, I did not see her giving any blow jobs but did read there was a circle jerk at the end.Once again, this is mho and is not intended to upset or humiliate the other two women,for any women that would provide that type of pleasure to so many men should be celebrated.

Jackbb

07-11-08, 08:19

I've asked before, but do any pictures of Femcar exist? Very curious! Thanks, JackBB

Sherizel R

07-12-08, 20:23

So I have been wanting to make the trip to the bookstore for a while now but I am kind of leery of going by myself. I'm a 31 year old single white female and on the bigger side. Do I have to go with a guy? Is it going to be weird going by myself? What should I expect? I am open and willing to try new things but want to make sure it's safe. Thanks!

HappyGardener

07-12-08, 22:23

Yes there are pictures of her on the web as part of another website. But she has asked for that website not be publicized. I believe that once she made that request, we have all honored it. Jackbb, I thnk that you should just make every attempt possible to be ther the next time she is. That will satisfy your curiousity.

Chadwick

07-13-08, 12:35

While the men at the bookstore have been called the wolfpack, there is nothing to worry about they are basically a bunch of horny guys, not rapists or deviates. The time I went to see the fore mentioned Femcar she was alone and nothing happened that she did not want to happen. I'm sure that it being your first time you may be nervous, but you just need to make sure that you are vocal in what you are willing to do, and what you will not want to do! And make sure you post it on here when you will be there, a few days in advance. And you should also post what you want, such as condoms being required, if you will do oral, ect.

Rub & Tugged

07-14-08, 10:46

To say that there are not deviates at the bookstore is probably not 100% accurate, and there might be a rapist or two thrown into the crowd, but you are not going to get raped there. Maybe on your first visit, go to a booth with a glory hole or go to a booth and leave a door open.... or maybe go at a time when one of the regular girls is doing their thing as to take pressure off of you..... As to your question is it going to be wierd going by yourself...the answer is YES if you have never done anything like this before.

Gary Man

07-14-08, 15:33

Single woman, alone, first time. I don't recommend you go on the weekend.

Weekends are full of guys, AKA the Wolfpack. Wait until you're more comfortable as you WILL be the center of attention.

Let the counter people know it's your first time, and if any problems arise go to them for assistance.

What should you expect? Sex with strangers. So BAD! SOO WRONG! SOOO EXCITING! : D

Chadwick

07-14-08, 19:01

Tomti

07-14-08, 23:27

Throw honey in the mix.

Gary Man

07-15-08, 16:48

Both new:

http://www.15adultmovietheater.com/

and

http://www.montclarespa.com/

Rocketman37

07-15-08, 19:48

Anyone playing Saturday afternoon? I'll be in the area, and I'm a first-timer. Looking around 3:30ish.

Tips? Hints? Suggestions?

GoldenGreek

07-18-08, 05:37

With all do respect, for those of you have not seen the women, Femcar is by far the hottest of the girls I have seen(Nancy B and Sheba on film)and Femcar in person.And I would say Nancy B would be next then Sheba, the thing is that from what I've seen there are more options with these girls than Femcar.As when I was there, I did not see her giving any blow jobs but did read there was a circle jerk at the end.Once again, this is mho and is not intended to upset or humiliate the other two women,for any women that would provide that type of pleasure to so many men should be celebrated.Agel by far is the hottest but it seems she goes there less than once a month.

Daniel is also hot - maybe a bit better looking than femcar.

LapDogg

07-18-08, 23:04

visited the websites and noticed the rates..... looks like single straight males are discriminated against. queer as folk get special rates.

Didn't realize that they were trying to keep us straight males away.

Quietguy578

07-21-08, 17:03

How do they verify that? If you say you're gay, do they follow you around and make sure? If they catch you having sex with a woman do they make pay the difference?

Tattered Man

07-22-08, 16:06

Per calendar:

Its hump day!! that is what i want to be doing!! come out and play i want to be fucking and sucking some nice cocks until i have to leave for work.

see you there!

kisses Avida

As always condoms are required and STD free hygiene is appreciated. guys if you are just coming from work wash up please. thank you

Neophyte

07-22-08, 17:59

So I have been wanting to make the trip to the bookstore for a while now but I am kind of leery of going by myself. I'm a 31 year old single white female and on the bigger side. I, for one, Sherizel, would be happy to protect your honor if you decide to go to 15th sometime this weekend! And furthermore, I PREFER women "on the bigger side."

Please post to let us know if you will take the plunge. I'm sure there will be plenty of people who will see to it that you have a very safe experience.

Finally, come on guys! I love women as much as the next red-blooded, meat-and-potatoes-eating, middle-aged American man, but let's not bash the gay dudes. They already get enough grief.

Neophyte

IcedOut

07-23-08, 15:39

Wikipedia is not a true dictionary. Its written by anyone and everyone on the net without any real credible researchers to back it up. Its famous for its numerous mistakes. The true gold standard of dictionaries has always been Webster. Here is what Websters on-line the very latest edition had to say. Note there is nothing in there about queers being crossdressers, transsexuals, transgendered,transvestities zip nada none. But the real point that you moved away from is that GAYS do NOT get a price break at Melrose. only HETERO women get in free. Did you miss that ? HETERO women get the biggest price break. Merriam – Webster On-Line.I am so sick of JanetCD responding to every fucking post on this board with nothing positive. So instead of bashing her and asking her to please leave the forum, I just want to personally ask Jackson if he would temrinate her account.

I beleive this can happen if everyone who wants her to leave just posts and asks jackson to do so.

All she does is try to stir up trouble on this board and the other ones for Melrose.

Bob6574

07-23-08, 23:46

I will be making my first trip to the Bookstore this weekend. Any tips?

I've been feeling a little experimental and thought this would be a good place to start!

If you want you can PM me if you don't want to leave tips/tricks in here!

Oh yeah. I'm a 34/M looking for M or F there!

Thanks in advance.

Admin

07-24-08, 02:16

I am so sick of JanetCD responding to every fucking post on this board with nothing positive. So instead of bashing her and asking her to please leave the forum, I just want to personally ask Jackson if he would temrinate her account.

I beleive this can happen if everyone who wants her to leave just posts and asks jackson to do so.

All she does is try to stir up trouble on this board and the other ones for Melrose.Greetings everyone,

I have terminated JanetCD's membership and deleted everything the he/she/it has ever posted.

I apologize for not taking action sooner.

Thanks,

Jackson

Rub & Tugged

07-24-08, 15:53

Nice call. This place is for dudes helping dudes find heterosexual sex. I don't want to hear from a dude that just smoked a pole while wearing a wig and bra.

LapDogg

07-24-08, 20:42

Greetings everyone,

I have terminated JanetCD's membership and deleted everything the he/she/it has ever posted.

I apologize for not taking action sooner.

Thanks,

Jackson

Thank you Jackson, but there is certainly no need to apologize.. you run a great board and try to give everyone a chance.

We really do appreciate what you do for us.

Head First

07-25-08, 11:08

Greetings everyone,

I have terminated JanetCD's membership and deleted everything the he/she/it has ever posted.

I apologize for not taking action sooner.

Thanks,

Jackson

You're the M-A-N, Jackson !!! Thank you.

Member #1658

07-26-08, 01:39

Wow! This is awesome. Jackson even deleted my post on how to ignore he/she/it because, well, it's a moot post now...

Thank you so much, Jackson!

You're the M-A-N, Jackson !!! Thank you.

ChicagoScott

07-29-08, 02:04

Tonight and last Monday have been pretty a-ok at the theater. Both nights pulled in around 10 or so and the parking lot was pretty dead. Bad sign I know. After walking in though, pleasantly surprised. Last week there was a hot Hooters girl, complete with outfit, going to town with her guy! They put on a great show, but i didn't see her play. There was also a couple in the booths playing with patrons. Tonight there were two ladies who took on all comers for whatever the mood struck. Also another couple in the booths.

The action may have not been the same as the weekend, but having the theater empty, with maybe 3 to 4 guys instead of 30 to 40, was pretty nice and worth the visit.

X Factor414

07-29-08, 11:45

I'm just curious to know if there's any activities during the noon to afternoon hours during the weekdays at this place? I'm in the Milwaukee area and have to work during the weekends but do have off on certain weekdays and was wondering if it's worthwhile to make a day trip down there. Have read up on a years worth of material on this place and would like to come check out it but thought I'd get an idea of the weekday action or lack there of first.

Thanks in advance.

Member #1658

07-29-08, 23:04

Days are VERY hit or miss. You could drive all the way over for nothing or you could be very pleasantly surprised. It's kind of like fishing...

I'm just curious to know if there's any activities during the noon to afternoon hours during the weekdays at this place? I'm in the Milwaukee area and have to work during the weekends but do have off on certain weekdays and was wondering if it's worthwhile to make a day trip down there. Have read up on a years worth of material on this place and would like to come check out it but thought I'd get an idea of the weekday action or lack there of first.

Thanks in advance.

Shadow Dancer

07-31-08, 10:14

I am looking for pro's and SWs with very large tits. Not fat and sloppy but nicely built. Anyone know of where to find these girls. Other than CL and the escort sites. Ages from young to MILF.I don't know if you only want a sure thing or are willing to go fishing, but there is a fairly new girl at the Playpen with huge boobs. Boobs that big are not my thing so I haven't talked to her much--I don't know if take out is on the menu, maybe someone else here knows more.

Rockout

08-01-08, 02:52

We are both heading there Friday night, wanting to know if any other couples are going? We only play with couples, so you single guys that do nothing but harrass us, stay away. We are there for show only, and you had better repect that. If you can't, you have no business being there. Couples, let us know, we are open to anything.

Member #1658

08-01-08, 03:21

Hooters girl is really a nice gal (absolute MILF) and no, she doesn't play with anyone but her guy. This is a couple for everyone to give proper respect to and what you get out of it is a great live porn show instead of the (usually) crappy movies they play on the screen. They have been coming somewhat regular lately.

Tonight and last Monday have been pretty a-ok at the theater. Both nights pulled in around 10 or so and the parking lot was pretty dead. Bad sign I know. After walking in though, pleasantly surprised. Last week there was a hot Hooters girl, complete with outfit, going to town with her guy! They put on a great show, but i didn't see her play. There was also a couple in the booths playing with patrons. Tonight there were two ladies who took on all comers for whatever the mood struck. Also another couple in the booths.

The action may have not been the same as the weekend, but having the theater empty, with maybe 3 to 4 guys instead of 30 to 40, was pretty nice and worth the visit.

Hot Cum

08-04-08, 19:58

I'm planning on heading out there for this 1st time tomorrow (Tuesday) afternoon. Anyone know of anything going on there tomorrow or how it usually is on a Tuesday?

Sheba B

08-05-08, 14:25

Hi all,

Just wanted to say hi and let you know that Hubby and I and Rogue will be there this weekend ... friday and Saturday for fun and I'm sure hubby will be posting on the regular sites as usual that we are apart of.

I hope to see many of you there as my pussy need to be pounded hard and fast by as many cocks as will cum to participate. So cum and F**K me good and hard and feed me your cocks.

Kisses,

Sheba

Rub & Tugged

08-06-08, 15:25

Quality post!

Chadwick

08-08-08, 16:07

Went to 15th on Wednesday, there was a post saying that a couple would be there they were only into watching but they were bringing a friend who had played there before. When I got there, I saw her and man was she a beast at least 300 pounds and probably in her late 40's to early 50's. I did decide to get a BJ since I had paid the. 20 already, her technique was good she deep throated, but I had to close my eyes and basically skull fuck her to get off. I found out that once you pay the. 20 it is good for all day as long as you keep your receipt, so I decided to go back later that evening since Avida posted she was going to be there. On the other site we a not allowed to mention on here they have a calendar which tells you any events that are going on, it says every Wednesday and Friday Avida is there from 7:30 to 10: 30. I personally think it is all bullshit, even if they know she is not going to be there they still keep it up there to get a bunch of us horny guys to go up there and spend the. 20. Anyways when I went back and got into the theater there was another wildabeast on the couch completely naked giving a guy a BJ and all the guys were in the first couple of rows watching and beating off, at this point I decided to go outside and sit. After a while two more couples came and once again nothing I would even think about touching one girl was probably 250 to 300 pounds. One of the guys that came outside after they went in said that they were only playing with each other and that there were still a bunch of guys in there beating off watching. I waited until about 10: 30 waiting for Avida at one point around 9:45 I seen her pull in the lot with a man driving another man went up to the window, he then got into his car, and followed them out of the lot? I was very turned off by this place and the degenerates that frequent it, and probably will not go back until Nancy B or Femcar post. It seems like most of the women that go there are either fat, unattractive, old, or all the above. And I also found out that Angel the hot Filipino that everyone on here talks about got kicked out for playing in the parking lot! I don't know if it is permanent or what, my suggestion is go there, chill outside until you see a girl that's decent walk in, or get confirmation from someone coming out that there's a hot chick in there. Cause most of the time it's not worth blowing. 20 for whats inside. I enclosed some pics for you guys so you can get an idea of whats there, there is no pic of Femcar but belive me she is hot and definitely worth going there for.

Showbob123

08-09-08, 02:09

chaddick...

Its one thing to write reports about the quality of the service people are paying for. If you paid your $ for a SW and she was ugly, cracked-out, warthog... by all means give us your opinion.

But...
If you haven't noticed this thread is specifically for the 15thave bookstore and is frequented by many of these ladies that enjoy the book store and its patrons. These women enjoy what they do, and do it for free--for fun, for themselves. They are not doing it to please you. Please cool it with the insults.

I'm just saying.. people that are regulars at the bookstore know what's there. In my opinion its rude of you to make such harsh comments about non-pros who are otherwise greatly enjoyed by many of the bookstore's regulars. I don't even mind you telling it like it is, but there's no reason to use insulting words (i.e. animal names).

Don't take this personally, just a suggestion/request.

Shebahubby

08-09-08, 12:26

You have a right to your opinion in this country of ours even if people disagree with you but you do not have the right to spread or post pictures that do not belong to you. Which you have used in your post. One of those happen to be my wife Sheba and another a friend of ours rogue. I will ask you to remove them as well as you should remove all of them. You do not have permission to post, duplicate, or spread any of their pictures that you apparently have downloaded from either our site or others that are friends of ours. By the way the bookstore is not for you to go and get laid even if the possibility may offer itself. It is for you to go and watch porn or go to the spa and steam. I'm sorry if your preference of women may not be there but degrading others sure as hell shows most of us your lack of charater. Post your personal photos as you have right to do that (legally) and let the women judge you as I'm sure they would enjoy picking out your faults, but remember you have not given birth to kids or know what life has brought to some of them and yet you have deemed yourself the judge of their fun in a venue that allows that as well as judged those who decide to join in to their fun. Femcar is a friend and my hope is that she would also respond to your lack of common respect for women in general. Again remove the pictures that you do not have permission to post!

Dudder

08-09-08, 16:07

Chadwick that was a great report keep up the good work. I love it when people tell it like it is. That is the purpose of this forum, if you want your reports sugar coated go read the 15th Ave bookstore yahoo group where people get their undies all in a bundle over reports like this, sometimes the truth hurts.

Went to 15th on Wednesday, there was a post saying that a couple would be there they were only into watching but they were bringing a friend who had played there before.When I got there, I saw her and man was she a beast at least 300 pounds and probably in her late 40's to early 50's.I did decide to get a bj since I had paid the .20 already,her technique was good she deep throated, but I had to close my eyes and basically skull fuck her to get off.I found out that once you pay the .20 it is good for all day as long as you keep your receipt, so I decided to go back later that evening since Avida posted she was going to be there.On the other site we a not allowed to mention on here they have a calendar which tells you any events that are going on,it says every Wednesday and Friday Avida is there from 7:30 to 10:30.I personally think it is all bullshit,even if they know she is not going to be there they still keep it up there to get a bunch of us horny guys to go up there and spend the .20.Anyways when I went back and got into the theater there was another wildabeast on the couch completely naked giving a guy a bj and all the guys were in the first couple of rows watching and beating off, at this point I decided to go outside and sit.After a while two more couples came and once again nothing i would even think about touching one girl was probably 250 to 300 pounds.One of the guys that came outside after they went in said that they were only playing with each other and that there were still a bunch of guys in there beating off watching.I waited until about 10:30 waiting for Avida at one point around 9:45 I seen her pull in the lot with a man driving another man went up to the window,he then got into his car,and followed them out of the lot?I was very turned off by this place and the degenerates that frequent it, and probably will not go back until Nancy B or Femcar post.It seems like most of the women that go there are either fat ,unattractive,old ,or all the above.And I also found out that Angel the hot Filipino that everyone on here talks about got kicked out for playing in the parking lot!I don't know if it is permanent or what,my suggestion is go there,chill outside until you see a girl that's decent walk in, or get confirmation from someone coming out that there's a hot chick in there.Cause most of the time it's not worth blowing .20 for whats inside.I enclosed some pics for you guys so you can get an idea of whats there,there is no pic of Femcar but belive me she is hot and definitely worth going there for.

Pickles13

08-09-08, 16:55

Angel 1

08-09-08, 18:08

I agree with chadwick in some respects about the women that frequent this place, but to be fair, this place isn't for everyone and there are people who enjoy being pleasured by some of the so called "beasts" you mentioned. What can one expect for $20. From my own experience, I've been there when there were some unattractive ladies and I simply did not participate. On the other hand, I've also been there when there were some hot porno quality women and I could't believe the awesome quality I was getting for $20. All I can say is try it and decide for yourself whether it's something you would enjoy.

Gary Man

08-09-08, 18:27

...And I also found out that Angel the hot Filipino that everyone on here talks about got kicked out for playing in the parking lot!I don't know if it is permanent or what,..I'm soo sad to hear that! Her guy posts here, I hope he posts a response. IMHO, she's the hottest woman that visits 15th st.

But for sheer naughtiness in an attractive MILF package: NancyB.

Chitown Hustla

08-09-08, 19:04

I agree with Chadwick 100%. Most of the women that I've seen at the bookstore with the exception of a few hotties who come there with their boyfriends are hogs. Even Nancy B. Doesn't look that good to me and the only reason why she is so popular is probably because she looks like a 10 compared to all the hogs there. I liked that Filipina Angel girl so it would be a shame if she is banned for good though I doubt it because she brings in business. The only woman worth coming here for is Femcar and I even have a problem getting it up for her anymore because I know that she has been with so many guys.

massagelover

08-09-08, 23:11

I do not post very often, but I need to comment on this.
Yes some of the women that show up at the 15th are not knockouts, but how many of us are? If you were totally handsome, buff and had a big johnson, you would never have to go to the 15th.
I have met Avida (never "been" with her) she is a very nice person and does not deserve these comments.

Went to 15th on Wednesday, there was a post saying that a couple would be there they were only into watching but they were bringing a friend who had played there before.When I got there, I saw her and man was she a beast at least 300 pounds and probably in her late 40's to early 50's.I did decide to get a bj since I had paid the .20 already,her technique was good she deep throated, but I had to close my eyes and basically skull fuck her to get off.I found out that once you pay the .20 it is good for all day as long as you keep your receipt, so I decided to go back later that evening since Avida posted she was going to be there.On the other site we a not allowed to mention on here they have a calendar which tells you any events that are going on,it says every Wednesday and Friday Avida is there from 7:30 to 10:30.I personally think it is all bullshit,even if they know she is not going to be there they still keep it up there to get a bunch of us horny guys to go up there and spend the .20.Anyways when I went back and got into the theater there was another wildabeast on the couch completely naked giving a guy a bj and all the guys were in the first couple of rows watching and beating off, at this point I decided to go outside and sit.After a while two more couples came and once again nothing i would even think about touching one girl was probably 250 to 300 pounds.One of the guys that came outside after they went in said that they were only playing with each other and that there were still a bunch of guys in there beating off watching.I waited until about 10:30 waiting for Avida at one point around 9:45 I seen her pull in the lot with a man driving another man went up to the window,he then got into his car,and followed them out of the lot?I was very turned off by this place and the degenerates that frequent it, and probably will not go back until Nancy B or Femcar post.It seems like most of the women that go there are either fat ,unattractive,old ,or all the above.And I also found out that Angel the hot Filipino that everyone on here talks about got kicked out for playing in the parking lot!I don't know if it is permanent or what,my suggestion is go there,chill outside until you see a girl that's decent walk in, or get confirmation from someone coming out that there's a hot chick in there.Cause most of the time it's not worth blowing .20 for whats inside.I enclosed some pics for you guys so you can get an idea of whats there,there is no pic of Femcar but belive me she is hot and definitely worth going there for.

Tattered Man

08-10-08, 05:51

Mr Watcher

08-10-08, 14:11

I'm considering going here with my girl. She's hot. Really is. 125# blond. I'd like to go easy with her, so she's not freaked out. Neither of us have ever been here. I imagine as we stroll around, and check the place out, there will be a stream of sharks behind us. So it sounds like. This may bother her. But what can we do.

My question is, about the "steam room". How does this work? . I mean, is there a changing room? Two changing rooms? Then we meet in the steam room? If she wants to sit in there and play w/herself, are guys gonna be shootin' their wads left and right? Or would you guys not recomend that for someone that wants to start out slow, and check out the vibe?

Also, I thought I read that there's a section in the theater that's roped off for couples. Is that true?

Is there a hot tub in this place?

Is the shower area co-ed? Are people "getting it on" in the shower?

Just trying to get a feel for it, guys. Thanks. She's quite the hot exhibitionist, but not if guys are gonna be pushy, and crowd her.

Gary Man

08-11-08, 02:04

My question is, about the "steam room". How does this work? . I mean, is there a changing room? Two changing rooms? Then we meet in the steam room? If she wants to sit in there and play w/herself, are guys gonna be shootin' their wads left and right? Or would you guys not recomend that for someone that wants to start out slow, and check out the vibe?

Also, I thought I read that there's a section in the theater that's roped off for couples. Is that true?

Is there a hot tub in this place?

Is the shower area co-ed? Are people "getting it on" in the shower?Cost an extra $20 to get into Spa, (steam room.) That tends to limit the amount of guys in there. You'll get a locker, one set of towels, but bring your own lock. Everything is coed in the spa.

you can also get a private booth, for extra charge. (standard or suite booth)

No Hot Tubs.

Yes, people are getting it on in the spa area.

If you want a roped off section in the theater, ask the counter people for it.

Yes guys get pushy there. Weekends are the worst for this, but more couples show up.
Be firm in your dealings with the wolfpack. Don't be afraid to tell them to back off. Any problems, bring it to the staffs attention, let them deal with it.

I'd also suggest you contact Sheba B, (post #808) via private message here.

http://montclarespa.com/

Gary Man

08-11-08, 02:13

Again remove the pictures that you do not have permission to post!I don't think chad can do this. Only the Mod can. Best to contact Jackson with your concerns.

Chiguy1983

08-11-08, 10:53

Does anyone know where she plays now?

SuperDick

08-12-08, 06:22

i checked out the bookstore last friday and sat nights..

Friday night.. there was a problem with the adult theater power/projection system , so there werent many people there.. I did get to meet one of the famous ladies with brunette hair (rogue's friend?) There was a guy with glasses, and a camera, looked hispanic, and a red haired guy who enjoyed walking around the bookstore in the nude, smiling and playing with his cock..
anyway they preceeded to go in the spa area, and decided to go follow them to a back room,
the brunette lady got naked and laid on the tables with padding, while the guy with glasses was filming her with various guys.. the red haired guy was eating her out and pounding her while some black guy was face-fucking her and shoving his balls in her mouth.. It was a pretty wild scene..

Later on a black couple came in.. the black lady was thin, attractive, with short hair, probably in her 30s.. she said she was looking for a huge, thick 10 inch cock..
During the gangbang of the brunette lady many men were in line getting ready to particpate and jerking off..
the short-haired black lady was scoping out the scene, trying to pick out the biggest one.. One lucky skinny white guy dropped his pants and showed off his limp flaccid dick to the lady, must have been 6 inches soft,
she pointed to the guy and off they went into a booth..

overall a pretty good experience.. and it was free for me, i didnt pay anything due to the movie theater being out of order.

sat night was pretty crazy, I think the "famous wolfpack" was there, must have been about 30 guys there, with some couples..
there was a wild scence brewing in the private booths, a guy and some brunette lady in a pastel dress with her hair pulled up was sucking off guys in a gloryhole,
but then something happened, one of the wolfpack guys threw a chair on the floor , since he wasnt able to cum, and then the couple left..

the famous 60 year old lady with the black lingerie and the bald biker boyfriend showed up later, (i show this couple last year, he proceeded to pound her in a van outside while guys were circle-jerking off)..

I decided to call it a night when the senior citizen lady arrived..

overall , a pretty good experience, many sights and sounds, if you are a voyeur, this is the place for you.

Stillhavinfun2

08-12-08, 11:54

And I also found out that Angel the hot Filipino that everyone on here talks about got kicked out for playing in the parking lot!I don't know if it is permanent or what,my suggestion is go there,chill outside until you see a girl that's decent walk in, or get confirmation from someone coming out that there's a hot chick in there.You are correct. We were asked to not come back because of playing outside for a few minutes (maybe 10 or so). We left and didn't want to discuss the issue at all. Seems they have different rules for different people. We did it only because we had seen others do it, some of them the owners friends. So there may be another reason why we were asked not to come back. Maybe because every time Angel and I came, the other females did not receive much attention. I don't know, and don't really care. We went there for our enjoyment, and met some nice people. We will miss them, and a few of the staff.

Take care all

Tattered Man

08-12-08, 12:31

She will be at the bookstore 8/14 from 4 to 8 in the evening. She was not specific in her post about what side she would be on.

Just For Fun69

08-12-08, 18:09

Not cool; Chadwick how can you denigrated someone and yet still want to have sex with them? Moreover, why do a gutless act of posting pic’s that are of someone else and not any of you? So be thankful that there are any women that would go to such a venue or it would just be a bunch of guys in a big circle jerk, while that maybe ok for some I would rather have a woman any day.

Jacbnimbie

08-12-08, 21:09

You're sure right about the rules for different people. I posted my comments about the jerks who stalk women there and got jumped on for it. Unless you kiss ass to the right women they hate you. Its like either you're a follower of their's or your a jerk who bothers them. I'm neither. Most of them are not worth fucking so I ignore them. Just like I ignore the jerks who follow them. Damn all I did was tell the women to just ignore the assholes. At least in here everyone has a right to speak their mind honestly.

You are correct. We were asked to not come back because of playing outside for a few minutes (maybe 10 or so). We left and didn't want to discuss the issue at all. Seems they have different rules for different people. We did it only because we had seen others do it, some of them the owners friends. So there may be another reason why we were asked not to come back. Maybe because every time Angel and I came, the other females did not receive much attention. I don't know, and don't really care. We went there for our enjoyment, and met some nice people. We will miss them, and a few of the staff.

Take care all

Silver Head

08-15-08, 12:12

Jacbnimbie

08-15-08, 16:40

Nancy was at the theatre last night looking fantastic as usual. Does anyone know if she allows anyone to eat her pussy? I was dying to eat her pussy last nite but didn't want to do the wrong thing if she didn't allow it.You would really eat her pussy after she fucked a half dozen guys right in front of you ? Condom or not i still wouldn't eat the pussy of any of the ladies. i know about the spa but its still not fresh out of the morning shower kind of pussy. Nothing against her at all. Glad she's a great willing for free fuck. Its still not eating pussy.

GoldenGreek

08-15-08, 19:20

Femcar

08-15-08, 21:48

It is this kind of meanness that will end up destroying this place. There is no reason to judge, either enjoy and engage or don't enjoy and leave. I certainly am doing MP gangbanging because it is yummy but if I have to put up with some kind of wierd entitled critique because somebody paid 20 bucks I am gonna stay away and so are most women. Mean is mean is mean whether it is mean about me this time or mean about another amazing woman who is totally putting herself out there and being totally vulnerable and open and WILLING. If you don't want to then please just don't come up. I don't know why you would need to COMPLAIN about the fact that somebody did not strike your fancy in an adult bookstore. I don't understand the agenda here. Nobody "owes" anybody anything here. We are peers. It is a gamble when you walk in and it is also a gamble when I walk in. I want to get slammed hard fast and furious. Do I get that every time? No. Do I get rejected? Yes. Does that suck? Yes. Do I feel I am entitled to every guy in there liking me and wanting to fuck me? No. Do I feel EVER that I have the right to CRITIQUE men that fuck me or do not fuck me at the bookstore. NO. Well unless they try and fuck me without a condom but I do think that is a boundary issue and is WAYYYY different. This is an amazing place please lets not ruin this.

Chitown Hustla

08-16-08, 12:53

GoldenGreek

08-16-08, 22:20

What was up with all the cars in the lot and parked as far as a block down around the bookstore yesterday? I was going to stop in for a little while for the first time in months but decided against it because the place looked packed.It was a meet and greet hosted by another site. $50 - 70 to get in. Close to 200 people were there. At one point it felt like I was in ancient Rome watching and orgy. About 5 or 6 females get fucked and giving head to about 50 guys all at the same time. It was quite a scene!

Gary Man

08-17-08, 01:20

What was up with all the cars in the lot and parked as far as a block down around the bookstore yesterday? I was going to stop in for a little while for the first time in months but decided against it because the place looked packed.Shebas group had a meet and great in the spa area. Was from 8p-1a. About 25 couples showed, most played. After, most went into the theater, and a few played. $70 for total access.

Mermaid King

08-18-08, 20:22

Can someone tell me where this Lava Life and GAlloways are exactly?

Also, can anyone tell me of any good providers, SW's or AMP's in either Lincoln Square or the Oak Park / River Forest area?

Ci-Traveler

08-19-08, 10:57

This board exists to provide information. If a person feels that the experience might be less than desirable for someone who might pay the $20 and feel ripped off, that person can post and let the chips fall where they may.

Femcar can critique the men if she wants. That would be fun to read. That she chooses not to is her choice.

I've said it before - when you put yourself in a public arena, expect to be critiqued. You gotta accept the good with the bad. If you can't handle it - don't put yourself in the arena.

I personally wish the comments could be tamed a bit to not appear so "mean", but the bottom line is - I want to know the truth before paying $20 to enter an establishment. If a person wants to post and be viewed as a "mean" poster, so be it. They have the right.

ci-traveler

Gary Man

08-19-08, 14:54

I want to know the truth before paying $20 to enter an establishment.ci-travelerOdds are, you won't like what you see. VERY few, if any, fit 20 yrs old females partake in swinging. They get into it later in life, after they've had several kids, and are more Mature.

See the ladies grocery shopping in your neighborhood supermarket, the ones you hardly notice? That's what they look like.

If you're looking for fit attractive swinging females, best bet is California or Florida. Of course, as a single male, it will cost you $100-$175 to get into those places there.

Gary Man

08-19-08, 15:46

Posted today:

"Play Time Thurs Aug 21, 3-6PM

Hey everyone..... I am going to cum play at the ABS this Thursday, August 21, from 3PM to 6PM. Come join me for some more fun!"

Affectionate99

08-20-08, 22:13

I made a maiden voyage the the bookstore last Tuesday. I thought that I would share my experience to help those who haven't yet been.

Being early in the week, the place was a little dead, only about 7-8 mongers when I arrived at 9 PM. At least 3 of those were newbies and we compared stories as to what we had heard and expected. Eventually the "60 ish women in black lingerie and her bald-headed biker boyfriend" up. They started with some 1-on-1 action in a booth with mongers peering through the glory holes on both sides. At first, I couldn't figure out what was going on, as there was just a bunch of guy's going in and out of the 3 booths. Once I twigged, I entered the middle booth after one other guy left. It was incredible hot and humid inside, with all sorts of sticky liquids on the floor. I offered myself up for a BBBJ and it was accepted. It was not the greatest experience in the world, but worth the. 2 admission.

Shortly after my turn, the couple headed to the theater and sat in the first row. The rest of the customers just sat and watched them until the couple headed to the couch at the front and began to perform. This was a signal to all of the monger to approach. Some to fondle themselves, some to fondle her, some for a BJ and some to ram her from behind as she blew another monger.

I didn't partake at this point. Funny thing is that I didn't mind the group action but found that the sight of all the guys fluffing themselves as they waited their turn a bit weird.

I don't expect to return, but it was a worthwhile experince.

Oh yeah, there was one CD there but didn't get much attention.

Thanks to the board for all the information posted in advance of my visit. Keep up the good work.

Member #3957

08-21-08, 09:19

The goal of this board is to help find pussy. If a streetwalker rips someone off then by all means they should be blasted in the appropriate forum. However, as Femcar says, this is a bookstore. You pay the store and the women are giving and hopefully getting what they want for free. The VERY least they deserve is respectful posts. If they don't get that and leave then whoever posted is doing a disservice to the board.

Oh and sorry, this board has nothing to do with the "right" to post what they want. Personally, I'd prefer you go spend your $20.00 at McDonalds and free up a spot in line next time Femcar, Nancy or another woman is there.

This board exists to provide information. If a person feels that the experience might be less than desirable for someone who might pay the $20 and feel ripped off, that person can post and let the chips fall where they may.

Femcar can critique the men if she wants. That would be fun to read. That she chooses not to is her choice.

I've said it before - when you put yourself in a public arena, expect to be critiqued. You gotta accept the good with the bad. If you can't handle it - don't put yourself in the arena.

I personally wish the comments could be tamed a bit to not appear so "mean", but the bottom line is - I want to know the truth before paying $20 to enter an establishment. If a person wants to post and be viewed as a "mean" poster, so be it. They have the right.

ci-traveler

Mermaid King

08-22-08, 16:10

Chrisj321

08-22-08, 16:33

I just moved here, I am thinking about visiting the ABS tonight to check out the action. I was watching some of the videos from the blog of the ABS action. I am worried about getting Herpes. Do you have to do a BBJ or can you get a CBJ there also? In the videos, I noticed one of these soup bones was betting a BBJ from Sheba and had some reddish legions on his pole.

You can get a NoBJ if you that worried. Since you didn't state you're not going to go I don't think you're that concerned. Ask whatever woman you're dealing with if she minds if you wear a cover. If she says she minds then move on. If she says she doesn't mind strap up and get sucked on! What's the harm in asking?

Mermaid King

08-22-08, 21:09

I am house sitting in River Forest. Just take North Ave down 10 minutes. Stop at Walgreens to get some Durex, make the right, and there are 3 cop cars right there so I turned left, and went to Spizzaco for pizza instead. Rock on!

Femcar

08-22-08, 22:14

You will be the first I will critique.

This board exists to provide information. If a person feels that the experience might be less than desirable for someone who might pay the $20 and feel ripped off, that person can post and let the chips fall where they may.

Femcar can critique the men if she wants. That would be fun to read. That she chooses not to is her choice.

I've said it before - when you put yourself in a public arena, expect to be critiqued. You gotta accept the good with the bad. If you can't handle it - don't put yourself in the arena.

I personally wish the comments could be tamed a bit to not appear so "mean", but the bottom line is - I want to know the truth before paying $20 to enter an establishment. If a person wants to post and be viewed as a "mean" poster, so be it. They have the right.

ci-traveler

Jacbnimbie

08-23-08, 07:37

Pizza is always a good choice. Melrose is getting way to popular. All the talk about the Meet & Greets is bound to perk up the wrong kind of ears. Its all just a matter of time before we read about it in the news. BTW how's the pizza at that place?

I am house sitting in River Forest. Just take North Ave down 10 minutes. Stop at Walgreens to get some Durex, make the right, and there are 3 cop cars right there so I turned left, and went to Spizzaco for pizza instead. Rock on!

Tightshoes

08-23-08, 14:26

Mermaid King

08-23-08, 17:08

The Pizza is outstanding there, I recommend it.

Mermaid King

08-23-08, 17:10

Tightshoes, I messaged you the link.

Mermaid King

08-23-08, 22:28

Alright teenagers, I finally made it to the 15th St ABS. The prices were great, selection good. Seemed like the area was ok. I went into the theatre and there was a couple having sex on the couch. They were both rather rotund. The girl would've been fun, she had nice big tits, but it wasn't happening. They let Melrose Park's version of Scatman Crothers finger her to orgasm at one point, but that was it. It wasn't the free for all fuck and suck fest shown in the videos. Perhaps because this wasn't Nancy or Sheeba like in the videos. I left dissapointed and even more so upon eating at Brown's Chicken after leaving. That place isn't the purveyor of gloriously well perfected fried chicken it once was. I've resolved to just stick to Popeye's. I may try the ABS next time Nancy or Sheba make an appearance. I have never been to a place like this and was a bit unnerved at all the dudes spanking it in the theatre. I kept expecting to turn around and see Pee Wee Herman.

Bob6574

08-24-08, 17:07

Im thinking about making my first trip to the book store.

Any suggestions on when would be a good time, im usually up for about anything!

Where does one find the link to the blog/videos for 15th ave?

Thanks in advance!

Single Dad

08-24-08, 20:41

Mr. Mermaid King,

Your visit may be typical. I miss the "old days" of just a year ago. Femcar shows up, I pound her hot cervix, she says I have a yummy cock, and we both get off. No muss, no fuss, and no photos. I feel that Sheba and Rogue have turned the place into a quasi house of prostitution, since it seems that their pics and videos go straight to online. Even if they black out faces. I'm afraid Nancy B may do the same, don't know for sure. I like the idea that my ability to fuck hard is all a woman wants, not just a way to profit off the internet from her 15th avenue visit. Between that, the loss of Angel (is she on a 30 day or pemanent suspension? ), and the increase in the BMI 30 and shutterbug crowd, it ain't quite as fun as it used to be.

Tomti

08-25-08, 13:05

Are profiting from the videos that their partners take. Show me one site that those videos are being played at, thx.

Jacbnimbie

08-25-08, 14:48

I heard Angel is on a PERMANENT suspension and that totally sucks. She's a nice fun person who deserves better. But your right its now just a profit center instead of a fun house.

Mr. Mermaid King,

Your visit may be typical. I miss the "old days" of just a year ago. Femcar shows up, I pound her hot cervix, she says I have a yummy cock, and we both get off. No muss, no fuss, and no photos. I feel that Sheba and Rogue have turned the place into a quasi house of prostitution, since it seems that their pics and videos go straight to online. Even if they black out faces. I'm afraid Nancy B may do the same, don't know for sure. I like the idea that my ability to fuck hard is all a woman wants, not just a way to profit off the internet from her 15th avenue visit. Between that, the loss of Angel (is she on a 30 day or pemanent suspension? ), and the increase in the BMI 30 and shutterbug crowd, it ain't quite as fun as it used to be.

Mermaid King

08-25-08, 16:20

It sounds like I moved to Chicago a year too late. Who is Angel? What is this "suspension" about? Is it from he store? Also, what is the BMI 30?

Mr. Mermaid King,

Your visit may be typical. I miss the "old days" of just a year ago. Femcar shows up, I pound her hot cervix, she says I have a yummy cock, and we both get off. No muss, no fuss, and no photos. I feel that Sheba and Rogue have turned the place into a quasi house of prostitution, since it seems that their pics and videos go straight to online. Even if they black out faces. I'm afraid Nancy B may do the same, don't know for sure. I like the idea that my ability to fuck hard is all a woman wants, not just a way to profit off the internet from her 15th avenue visit. Between that, the loss of Angel (is she on a 30 day or pemanent suspension? ), and the increase in the BMI 30 and shutterbug crowd, it ain't quite as fun as it used to be.

Chitown Hustla

08-25-08, 19:36

Angel is gone for good from what I've heard. She was one of the few highlights of this place for me other thanFemcar. Nancy B looks ok for an older woman but for some reason she just doesn't do it for me. I agree that the bookstore isn't what it used to be a year ago before word got out.

Single Dad

08-25-08, 21:43

Is maybe 25, Filipina, and smoking hot in my opinion. Hot, as in, hot in any room you'd walk in to, not just by ABS standards. She'd show up with her Master, blow him while she slapped her own ass and then start blowing the guys who'd lined up. She'd sucked you till you came all over her pretty Asian face, and then in the sweetest, little girl voice you can imagine, she' d say "thank you" for cumming all over her face and tits. No, thank you, Angel, where ever you are.

P.S. Bmi-body mass index; over 30 means, uh, not thin.

PSS Femcar, you are a purist. I hope you post soon for a week night visit. Its been too long since my yummy cock slammed your cervix long and hard. No body cums as good as you Femcar.

Jacbnimbie

08-26-08, 00:25

BMI 30 = Body mass index and 30 is the indicator for obese. The ladies of Melrose are not exactly on the slim side. personally i'm ok with that. But i do agree with it becoming more about pic taking and money rather then everyone just having fun with whomever is there at that time. At least in here all view points spoken with respect are allowed.

It sounds like I moved to Chicago a year too late. Who is Angel? What is this "suspension" about? Is it from he store? Also, what is the BMI 30?

Gary Man

08-26-08, 02:58

BMI 30

Body Mass Index of 30 or greater = Obesity
(Very slick insult.)

Are you referring to the Sheba and NancyB videos? If so, they don't profit from them as they are free on the site I've seen them on. And they are available at the Melrose and Shebas Group.

Misty was at the Meet & Greet, she has a paysite. She wanted to tape her GH action. I don't think they were able to record much due to lighting problems. Misty also was selling her DVD's at the M & G.

Also what do you mean by "quasi house of Prostitution, " as none of the ladies there are doing pay for play. They there strictly there for thier own enjoyment.

ChicagoScott

08-26-08, 03:32

Was the absolute best thing to happen to the place. God was she f**king hot and sexy. I am so sad to know she wont be there anymore. Hello? Heaven? If you're listening, send us an Angel :)

Artificial Red

08-26-08, 03:34

It sounds like I moved to Chicago a year too late. Who is Angel? What is this "suspension" about? Is it from he store? Also, what is the BMI 30?

Body mass index (BMI) is a measure of body fat based on height and weight that applies to both adult men and women.

Underweight = <18.5
Normal weight = 18.5-24.9
Overweight = 25-29.9
Obesity = BMI of 30 or greater

Quietguy578

08-26-08, 03:35

Are profiting from the videos that their partners take. Show me one site that those videos are being played at, thx.www.bangmyslut.com has Nancy and Sheba videos. Don't know if they make money of them there or not.

George W. Bush

08-26-08, 11:19

This is absolutely not prostitution, so don't even go there. Prostitution is the exchange of money for sexual favors. This constitutes exhibitionism, but they'd probably either laugh at you or kick your ass if you offered money in exchange for what they are giving for free. What you said sounds like something the sheriff would say to justify a raid on the place. There's no sex for sale, coppers, it's free! (Like your donuts.)
As for Angel, if she was the girl I'm thinking of from a year ago that's a real loss. She was a real cute little thing.

Jacbnimbie

08-26-08, 12:23

1) comments like your is a dare to the cops who read this board to now go after the place.

2) cops have busted bookstores before for as little as a guy masturbating alone in a booth. (Pee Wee Herman)

3) $20 at the door PLUS $35 at the SPA Plus $$ for any of the Meet & Greet type of events goes a long way to proving a cops point of view that its paid sex.

4) bookstores that get away with it don't charge at the door but make their profits from the booth machines. This way the owner can claim its the customers doing it and they had nothing to do with it. But by charging $20 or more at the door they can be held legally responsible.

5) every hooker tries that giving it away for free line to the cops and it never works. True or not it won't keep them from being arrested if they get caught banging some guy in any bookstore.

This is absolutely not prostitution, so don't even go there. Prostitution is the exchange of money for sexual favors. This constitutes exhibitionism, but they'd probably either laugh at you or kick your ass if you offered money in exchange for what they are giving for free. What you said sounds like something the sheriff would say to justify a raid on the place. There's no sex for sale, coppers, it's free! (Like your donuts.)

As for Angel, if she was the girl I'm thinking of from a year ago that's a real loss. She was a real cute little thing.

Mermaid King

08-26-08, 13:42

Alright, so as per my original post, all of you have waxed quite poetic and eloquently in regards to Angel, but as per my initial inquiry, NO ONE has said why she was banned? And by whom?

Single Dad

08-26-08, 20:06

I heard that Angel was caught playing outside in the parking lot and was asked to leave by the management. I wasn't there, but that's what I heard.

I was told by one of the girls, don't want to say which, that she was posting her 15th videos on a pay-to-view site. That's direct, not second hand. I don't know about videos made by others. I'm not making specific accusations, but some of the new girls are actively soliciting fellas to come down and see them during their visits, which always are filmed or photo'ed, so I just wonder what their motivation is. For some, being filmed for internet replay is no big thing, but not my thing baby.

Again, I've never seen sex for pay at 15th, and I'm a big fan of the place, but imho, its way way hotter when Femcar or Angel are fucking and blowing you for fun compared to somebody who brings a camera man each and every time.

Here's to Angel and Femcar, whereever you may be.

Jasper Malloy

08-26-08, 22:04

Alright, so as per my original post, all of you have waxed quite poetic and eloquently in regards to Angel, but as per my initial inquiry, NO ONE has said why she was banned? And by whom?

Refer to postings from about 8/12 of this year.

Raincoater

08-27-08, 10:23

2) cops have busted bookstores before for as little as a guy masturbating alone in a booth. (Pee Wee Herman)Pee Wee wasn't in a booth and he wasn't alone. He was in the audience in a theater.

3) $20 at the door PLUS $35 at the SPA Plus $$ for any of the Meet & Greet type of events goes a long way to proving a cops point of view that its paid sex.No, it doesn't. The *bookstore* gets the admission charge. The ladies don't. None of the admission charges are evidence of money for sex.

4) bookstores that get away with it don't charge at the door but make their profits from the booth machines. This way the owner can claim its the customers doing it and they had nothing to do with it. But by charging $20 or more at the door they can be held legally responsible.No, they can't. I'm not sure where you went to law school, but get your money back. The bookstore can charge for admission because they show movies in the theater, just like any other movie theater. Spas can charge admission. Caterers can charge for food. None of the admission charges, which are charges by a presumably licensed business, are evidence of prostitution.

Now, as to what goes on in the theater--and the supplying of the table, etc. it may be a different story. But charging admission isn't the issue.

5) every hooker tries that giving it away for free line to the cops and it never works. True or not it won't keep them from being arrested if they get caught banging some guy in any bookstore.That's usually because the cops have evidence of them soliciting. big difference. And because people are idiots and violate the number one rule when arrested: shut your goddamn mouth until you talk to your lawyer.

Stillhavinfun2

08-27-08, 14:44

www.bangmyslut.com has Nancy and Sheba videos. Don't know if they make money of them there or not.We (Angel and I) have never taken a video anywhere with anyone else (though we've thought about it, but don't want it to end up somewhere we don't know about), most certainly not at 15th. Since we've never made a video, we've obviously never posted one.

We were solicited by the web site bang my **** that is frequently mentioned on the yahoo group to post on that site for compensation. Since we are in this for strictly fun (why we never paid anything for entrance except the $10 couple entry fee, never went in the spa because of the obvious attempt to use us for profits, maybe thats why we're banned? ) we immediately declined.

I have no idea whats goiing on there, I have my own suspicions, but they are just that, suspicions. I have no proof other than being solicited by the website I mention above. So I'll just leave it there.

Gary Man

08-27-08, 16:14

I was told by one of the girls, don't want to say which, that she was posting her 15th videos on a pay-to-view site.Times that I played with Angel in the theater, they were NOT taped.
Sheba Tapes. I'm in one of them. :)

FACT:

You are correct. We were asked to not come back because of playing outside for a few minutes (maybe 10 or so). We left and didn't want to discuss the issue at all. Seems they have different rules for different people. We did it only because we had seen others do it, some of them the owners friends. So there may be another reason why we were asked not to come back. Maybe because every time Angel and I came, the other females did not receive much attention. I don't know, and don't really care. We went there for our enjoyment, and met some nice people. We will miss them, and a few of the staff.

Take care allStillhavinfun2 is Angels hubby

Jacbnimbie

08-27-08, 16:42

Raincoat my comments weren't directed at anyone in particular and certainly not at you. So I don't understand the hostility towards me and your reference for a law degree. I'll rise above it and not sling it back. Believe what you want to. Its ok by me. I think Melrose will get busted someday and probably if for no other reason then because people think it won't be. That's the perfect time for cops to show up. And when they do show up I'm sure they'll find plenty of people to arrest. It's not like everyone goes there just to watch the movie. And as for everyone being quiet and keeping their mouth shut during a bust when has that ever happened? Given a choice between rat out a stranger for sex, or getting arrested for a sex bust hummm tough choice. I think most of the Melrose patrons will rat out the person next to them every time. Tell me if I'm wrong about that too.

Pee Wee wasn't in a booth and he wasn't alone. He was in the audience in a theater.

No, it doesn't. The *bookstore* gets the admission charge. The ladies don't. None of the admission charges are evidence of money for sex.

No, they can't. I'm not sure where you went to law school, but get your money back. The bookstore can charge for admission because they show movies in the theater, just like any other movie theater. Spas can charge admission. Caterers can charge for food. None of the admission charges, which are charges by a presumably licensed business, are evidence of prostitution.

Now, as to what goes on in the theater--and the supplying of the table, etc. it may be a different story. But charging admission isn't the issue.

That's usually because the cops have evidence of them soliciting. big difference. And because people are idiots and violate the number one rule when arrested: shut your goddamn mouth until you talk to your lawyer.

Single Dad

08-28-08, 08:15

Will you and Angel appeal the suspension or otherwise return someday to 15th?

I'd like to think that the management there would be happy to have you back by now. Certainly us patrons would. There's not a night that doesn't go by that I don't replay in my head my three encounters with Angel, God bless her (and you for bringing her).

Raincoater

08-28-08, 09:38

Raincoat my comments weren't directed at anyone in particular and certainly not at you. So I don't understand the hostility towards me and your reference for a law degree.My reference to the law is because you get it wrong about charging admission being == prostitution. No hostility, just correcting something that is just plain wrong.

As for the ABS being busted, there are many other ways it could be busted, that's for sure. I'm not disagreeing with you on that count, just that you make several statements that are just incorrect.

My comment about shutting up is because way too many people think that when they get busted, they can somehow talk their way out or come up with an excuse. Bottom line, cops are never your friend. If you do have the unfortunate luck to get busted, the best course of action is to say absolutely nothing until you get your lawyer.

Play safe!

Quimby

08-29-08, 00:04

Will you two kids please post something with SUBSTANCE! Otherwise stay off the board.

Dwirth769

08-29-08, 07:52

6 am.

Anything happening?

Rocketman37

08-29-08, 15:05

6 am.

Anything happening?Dunno. I've never been able to find the group that details such things. I'm headed over there now to see if anything is going on.

Member #4064

08-29-08, 19:30

Angel is (was) one of a kind that you don't see very often. I drove a long distance to see her and it was worth every mile and/or gallon. There is a big difference between doing what you enjoy as "fun" and doing it to take videos for a web site or group. I won't drive 5 minutes to see someone who is taking videos, not to mention it is a whole different agenda. I am very opposed to those who take public pictures/videos. If you read some of the other yahoo groups where there is a lot of action they never take pictures or videos and some get very upset at the mention of it.

I hope someday Angel and you would return. She is attractive not only physically but she is also if fun and has no attitude.

GoldenGreek

09-01-08, 20:17

We (Angel and I) have never taken a video anywhere with anyone else (though we've thought about it, but don't want it to end up somewhere we don't know about), most certainly not at 15th. Since we've never made a video, we've obviously never posted one.

We were solicited by the web site bang my **** that is frequently mentioned on the yahoo group to post on that site for compensation. Since we are in this for strictly fun (why we never paid anything for entrance except the $10 couple entry fee, never went in the spa because of the obvious attempt to use us for profits, maybe thats why we're banned? ) we immediately declined.

I have no idea whats goiing on there, I have my own suspicions, but they are just that, suspicions. I have no proof other than being solicited by the website I mention above. So I'll just leave it there.Lets get a hotel party together with Angel , yourself and a few of the boys !! I will pay for the room !

Sxy Swirl 7182

09-02-08, 04:05

Was anyone around last Friday late night (8/30)?

Head First

09-02-08, 19:26

Lets get a hotel party together with Angel , yourself and a few of the boys !! I will pay for the room !I can bring the pizzas. And also some chilled, chocolate covered strawberries for the guest of honor. I miss the Sunday nights at 15th.

Mermaid King

09-02-08, 19:47

I'll bring the Goose and Tonic. Set it up.

Rushman

09-03-08, 02:58

I'll bring wine and sushi.

Who Set it up?

Dagnazty

09-04-08, 00:02

I did not have the pleasure of meeting Angel on 15th but if she is half as good as people have said, I would be happy to bring the Polish Sausage!

MWM

09-04-08, 12:42

can someone send me the web address for the 15th Ave ABS?

Gary Man

09-04-08, 23:56

today:

"Football (and more) Monday September 8

The kids are in school and football season is upon us! ... Let's have fun!!!

Now is the perfect opportunity so make your plans for a Monday night football party--guys/gals/couples/singles night out! At Melrose Adult Book Store 15th Ave at North Ave,, Melrose Park This Monday, September 8, the party room is open from 6:45 pm to game's end...Viking's/Packards ....Beer, pizza and adult entertainment beginning at 6:45 at -- $35!

Come play..this promises to be a fun event!

CU 9/8 at 6:45 PM"

Butakal

09-05-08, 03:17

Have not posted awhile about ABS I swore off the place slmost a year ago. I do agree about post about Angel she is or was the hottest woman ever came in at melrose.

They do have a point about being exploited by the Bookstore.(See spa comments).

Every post here talks about wolfpack. I do agree it does get out of hand but for godsake. You know what your getting into when going to a bookstore.

My last thoughts is guys ever look at the talents(women) that walk in there? i have had lowest moments in my life but going to Melrose ABS tops it off when I have to pound a 50 year old beast. but I know what im getting in too. so my point is stop complaining about the wolfpack...dont go or bring a girl if you dont like it.

Last but not least. Dont want to sound like a racist. maybe you guys can put some input.
Theres a few brotha mans that go to the bookstore. ever notice that they seem stingy about their women? I mean they never bring one or if the do they never wanna share it? Share the wealth!!! I have a thing for some sexy chocolates too.

Jacbnimbie

09-05-08, 10:03

I agree 100%. I think the reason the brothers don't bring their women around is because they don't feel they need to. After all the overwight 50 yr something women going there all post they want BBC. No one mentions anything about blk women so I guess they feel they don't need to bring them along. What I hate is all the different prices all the time. Unless you read every friggin board you have no idea of what it cost until you get there. Most guys do not expect a $20 min just for walking into any bookstore. Then there's another cost for the spa, another for a room, lock for the damn locker, another for any meet & greet, another to watch football. Yeah I know there's extras with each price but who expects that when they walk into a bookstore. I miss the good ole days when it was $15 or $10 if you came in daytime. Just sex no camera's, no video artists, no huge wolf packs. It was just eye contact a nod and sex. I miss that. If I want to watch football I'll go to the sports bar.

Have not posted awhile about ABS I swore off the place slmost a year ago. I do agree about post about Angel she is or was the hottest woman ever came in at melrose.

They do have a point about being exploited by the Bookstore.(See spa comments).

Every post here talks about wolfpack. I do agree it does get out of hand but for godsake. You know what your getting into when going to a bookstore.

My last thoughts is guys ever look at the talents(women) that walk in there? i have had lowest moments in my life but going to Melrose ABS tops it off when I have to pound a 50 year old beast. but I know what im getting in too. so my point is stop complaining about the wolfpack...dont go or bring a girl if you dont like it.

Last but not least. Dont want to sound like a racist. maybe you guys can put some input.
Theres a few brotha mans that go to the bookstore. ever notice that they seem stingy about their women? I mean they never bring one or if the do they never wanna share it? Share the wealth!!! I have a thing for some sexy chocolates too.

Butakal

09-06-08, 07:18

Glad someone agrees with me.

As I mentioned haven't been in the store for almost a year finally went back Today (Friday).

My input would be it has gotten worse! I think or I hope it won't happen but I don't think alot of people will keep going there.

1. Still the same bbw beasts. A skinny white girl looked like she is on heroin.

2. You have to pay for everything (I think management is taking advantage but eventually people gonna catch up to their tricks)

3. Everything is private reserved by the same click (you guys know who I'm talking about).

4. Too much exposures people making it their porn studio (people bringing vid cameras. Management should not allow it. But what do they care. Guys still come to get their rocks off money in their pockets.)

5. Quality of men that come. For those season veterans of the ABS. The regular good guys are gone. Got alot of new guys have no respects for the couples or establishment. Couple might be the booths and I saw multiple guys trying to open the door or knocking. (good way to turn away the couples). No couples=No Guys=No money for the bookstore.

6. Segregated theater. Couples section? I think management is listening to the wrong people for advice. I am sure once they see the books (revenues). Going down. They come to their senses and put it the way it was. It just looks rediculous single in one section and couples in the other.

7. Can't sit peacefully in the massage chair it keeps asking more money. 2 small seats by the both is falling apart. Office max has sales on chairs. ABS get 2 new chairs.

This is just my opinion, been in this game far too long (international monger). I know what seems right and wrong in the place.

The whole dynamics (old Abs) is gone. When I started mongering ages ago an old season perv gave me an advice to this day its always my motto.

I am a paying customer I dictate the terms not you!

Tomti

09-07-08, 00:12

I have been swinging for decades, gone to most of the swing clubs all over the u. S. Of a that allow single males. The rooster in vegas, the clubs in a. Z, they clubs in indiana, etc. You name the club and I probably have been there. Melrose is not a swing club as most know but it is a place that a single guy can easily get laid for 20bucks. You have to know what days to go on based on who is going to be there. Yes, not all the women are lookers but on the right day/night some of the ladies are very attractive, some not so, just like the guys on any given day. Most Friday's are winners. I can't think of any Friday that I went that there was not decent action. The question is why are you bashing.

Jacbnimbie

09-07-08, 11:05

Its not about bashing. Its about giving an honest opinion even if that opinion seems negative. If I only wanted sugar coated comments I would just go to the y-groups. The advantage of this site is you get to read opposing viewpoints and then get to decide for yourself. Melrose bookstore used to really be great. I loved it when I knew going in what the price was that day. I loved getting some head and leaving without a camera around. I'm very positive about all of that. No bash there. But times have changed and I think some people besides myself are concerned about the changes. Now its one price when there's no special, another price for football, another price on a meet & greet, etc. There's cameras, wolf packs, and frankly SOME women that are not sexually appealing. Saying that is no more a bash then saying some local SW is an ugly crack *****. Just because we don't sugar coat to your liking doesn't make us bashers. I value both the pros and cons in the posts on this site.

I have been swinging for decades, gone to most of the swing clubs all over the u. S. Of a that allow single males. The rooster in vegas, the clubs in a. Z, they clubs in indiana, etc. You name the club and I probably have been there. Melrose is not a swing club as most know but it is a place that a single guy can easily get laid for 20bucks. You have to know what days to go on based on who is going to be there. Yes, not all the women are lookers but on the right day/night some of the ladies are very attractive, some not so, just like the guys on any given day. Most Friday's are winners. I can't think of any Friday that I went that there was not decent action. The question is why are you bashing.

Quimby

09-07-08, 17:55

This is your 9th post and and it is all dribble like the the other 8. How about you put yourself out there get some action and give us a real report.

Its not about bashing. Its about giving an honest opinion even if that opinion seems negative. If I only wanted sugar coated comments I would just go to the y-groups. The advantage of this site is you get to read opposing viewpoints and then get to decide for yourself. Melrose bookstore used to really be great. I loved it when I knew going in what the price was that day. I loved getting some head and leaving without a camera around. I'm very positive about all of that. No bash there. But times have changed and I think some people besides myself are concerned about the changes. Now its one price when there's no special, another price for football, another price on a meet & greet, etc. There's cameras, wolf packs, and frankly SOME women that are not sexually appealing. Saying that is no more a bash then saying some local SW is an ugly crack *****. Just because we don't sugar coat to your liking doesn't make us bashers. I value both the pros and cons in the posts on this site.

Jacbnimbie

09-07-08, 18:28

I did. My REAL report was about Melrose Park and how its not as good as it was a year ago. How its all about the money and video taking and not about the sex. Um what was your report about? What was Tomti 's report about? Neither of you two guys even mentioned Melrose in your so-called reports. At least I did.

This is your 9th post and and it is all dribble like the the other 8. How about you put yourself out there get some action and give us a real report.

HappyGardener

09-07-08, 20:12

I call it a fourth hand report as i am going to repost a report from another group. I am not the author of this report. I have not been to Melrose in a few weeks so i do not know about these events first hand. I am simply repeating information that has been posted elsewhere. I am doing this for the benefit of those that do not have access to the other group.

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The following has been reported to us. We'll leave it to others to
corroborate or to deny. If true it's pretty much then end of Melrose
as we know it. Or at the very least the end of the "Golden Age" of
Melrose.

This is what we were told. New policy as of late last week:

* No nudity or activity in the theatre. Must be behind closed doors
only.

* Within the spa activity must be behind closed doors of private
rooms or within the sauna or shower.

To this end the theatre screen as been moved towards the seats
several feet creating a small room containing your old friend the
exam table and the sling. This room is clearly too small to
accomodate more than just a few playing couples. Other rooms may be
created.

The scuttlebutt (and remember this is just hearsay that is
unconfirmed) was that someone with an antisocial streak mailed
letters complaining of public sex to every jurisdiction and LEO they
could think of. (I thought the way around this was to treat the
place as a private club with 1 day memberships. But I do not know.)

Anyway, rules is rules. But it would appear that those things that
made the place simply unbelievable are now gone.

Again, this all comes to us second and third hand so some alleged
facts may need to be corrected, clarified or withdrawn entirely.

Gary Man

09-08-08, 00:28

"No nudity or activity in the theatre. Must be behind closed doors only.

Within the spa, activity must be behind closed doors of private rooms or within the sauna or shower. "

Also no more open doors in the video booths.

As to the room behind the theater screen, last night, management limited 7 guys to join any playing couples. Couples and single guys were kept separate in the theater. Management came in and made sure no couples played in the theater.

All you guys complaining about prices and unattractive women will no longer have anything to complain about. As I'm sure couples will stop coming once these new rules become more known. No couples, no reason for us guys to show up. Less people = less $$$$$. I hope they earned enough money to pay for all the "improvements" they made. If not, they're in trouble.

Doesn't take much to ruin a good thing.

Single Dad

09-08-08, 23:44

Gary Man

09-09-08, 14:34

Party night/Monday night was nothing but fun. 35 for entry to everything, including beer and food. Nancy, Femcar and Avida, and only a small crowd of guys. Best time I've had there in some time, in part because some guy wasn't trying to film me as I went about my business. Let's see how things play out before this place is written off (besides, how does this compare to your other adult entertainment options?)Singledad:

Was that party in the private party room, the room behind the theater screen or spa?

Anything happening in the video booths?

Was the theater being monitored by management as I've been told?

(I was unable to attend due to work.)

There are no other Adult Entertainment options in IL.

Femcar

09-09-08, 18:07

Lots of blah blah complaining without seeing anything for yourselves. Yes it is a "little" different.. but group play is still VERY doable and I got REEEMED just as hard as I always do there. :) The "group" play cannot be in front of the screen so basically has been moved to behind the screen. Not much difference at all in my opinion.. and we can ALL agree here that I am somewhat demanding in what I consider yum. This place is absolutely STILL yummy yummy yummy for anonymous stranger gangbanging like I LOVE.

Gary Man

09-10-08, 15:38

Posted today in the group page:

"Great new things abound at 15th Ave Adult Emporium

We listen to what our customers say and they tell us that they want more fun and comfort for couples, so we're delivering even more of that.

As always, the theater and spa are open to everyone (of legal age with paid admission), however, there is something hot and new for the party room starting this weekend (09/12/08).

On FRIDAYS AND SATURDAYS, THE PARTY ROOM IS COUPLES ONLY (unless there is a scheduled party):

FRIDAY/SATURDAY COUPLES PRICING

Theater, Spa and Party room: $50

Spa and party room: $40

Theater and party room: $40

Party room only: $30

As always, single women are FREE

NO SINGLE MEN IN THE PARTY ROOM DURING COUPLES ONLY TIMES

Drinks, dancing and fun will be provided.

Hard liquor is BYOB. We will provide all mixers."

I like his spin on "great new things": couples were charged $10 originally to play in the theater and GH. Sounds like it will be GREAT for management.

It will eliminate the weekend wolfpack some couples complained about.

HappyGardener

09-10-08, 19:35

Reposted here from another group. No comments added from me, This is all his words. I hope this puts to rest rumours and answers the latest questions. I am making the suggestion that rather than posting any comments here, you email him directly, PM him, or call him.

Great new things abound at 15th Ave Adult Emporium

We listen to what our customers say and they tell us that they want more fun and comfort for couples, so we're delivering even more of that.

As always, the theater and spa are open to everyone (of legal age with paid admission), however, there is something hot and new for the party room starting this weekend (09/12/08).

On FRIDAYS AND SATURDAYS, THE PARTY ROOM IS COUPLES ONLY (unless there is a scheduled party):

FRIDAY/SATURDAY COUPLES PRICING

Theater, Spa and Party room: $50

Spa and party room: $40

Theater and party room: $40

Party room only: $30

As always, single women are FREE

NO SINGLE MEN IN THE PARTY ROOM DURING COUPLES ONLY TIMES

Drinks, dancing and fun will be provided.

Hard liquor is BYOB. We will provide all mixers.

Questions? Contact ME directly at 15thaveadult@sbcglobal.net.

We look forward to seeing you this weekend and all the otehr weekends!

When people visit 15th Ave Adult Emporium, it's with the knowledge and understanding that we provide PASSIVE enertainment in the forms of a movie theater and video arcades. Anyone expecting women to be on hand and available to entertain them MUST BRING THEIR OWN.

We are NOT a ***** house.

We are NOT a stripper club.

We are NOT a fuck club!

When you come here looking for or expecting a "date", that's on you, not us. People pay their $20 expecting only movies and if something more happens by, that's a great bonus for all.

We do not promise, arrange, suggest or even imply that anything other than movies and videos will go on here, so if anyone expects or anticipates otherwise, it's by their own choosing.

It's no one's business but mine who has what arrangements here, so no one should go talking out of their asses about things they don't know.

Anyone worth their $20 knows that I'm a man of my word so if I say something is broken, it's broken. If I say something is happening, it's happening. If I say nothing's happening, nothing's happening.

Instead of people hiding behind computers talking shit, they should let go of their little dicks, come to the theater and TELL ME TO MY FACE! If not, they don't have anything worth saying in the first place!

Single Dad

09-10-08, 20:04

Chingon,

There were maybe 15 guys and 3 gals in party room, including employees and mgmt types, but no "monitoring" so to speak. One of the gals was being friendly, lets say. After a while, the whole party moved into the showers. I walked over to the theater, had to walk outside to do so, and saw just one lonely fella sitting by himself in the theater.

Butakal

09-11-08, 18:49

Instead of people hiding behind computers talking shit, they should let go of their little dicks, come to the theater and TELL ME TO MY FACE! If not, they don't have anything worth saying in the first place! -

Seems like you guys had his panties twisted.

As most of us agree we all gave up on the bookstore and only go there if no other choice.

Dont really like to post this but I am going to seems like this joker doesnt appreciate our money. which pays for his living expense.

been going to this place for sometime and I have never mentioned it and some of you guys know the place. I think its better than Melrose ABS. You can go there for a day or spend the night its just outside the city of chicago.

A nudist resort in Indiana illinois border. Lots of action to be had has campers you can get invited and a common area you can enyoy. Place called sun aura you can google it it has a website and yes its single friendly...maybe we can all take our business there instead of the ABS.

Only draw back cause its kind of a redneck place dont know if they are BBC friendly so brothaman might not have a good time. But im not 100% sure of this. just my speculation cause the times I have been there I witnessed it.

Gary Man

09-11-08, 21:55

Yeah it's friendly to all. I know some BBC that go there.

It's a nudist resort, not a swingers club. Not all play.

Very YMMV.

Coolouforever

09-11-08, 22:08

I agree with Butakal we should just forget about the this place and find somewhere new because this guy doesn'y realize that WE are the reason he's in business so F*** dude and his bookstore. Oh 1 more thing I want to see how tough he really is so I'll go there in person and say it to his face and let's see what he does to me because I guarantee I will put him down with no problem.

Instead of people hiding behind computers talking shit, they should let go of their little dicks, come to the theater and TELL ME TO MY FACE! If not, they don't have anything worth saying in the first place!
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Seems like you guys had his panties twisted.

As most of us agree we all gave up on the bookstore and only go there if no other choice.

Dont really like to post this but I am going to seems like this joker doesnt appreciate our money. which pays for his living expense.

been going to this place for sometime and I have never mentioned it and some of you guys know the place. I think its better than Melrose ABS. You can go there for a day or spend the night its just outside the city of chicago.

A nudist resort in Indiana illinois border. Lots of action to be had has campers you can get invited and a common area you can enyoy. Place called sun aura you can google it it has a website and yes its single friendly...maybe we can all take our business there instead of the ABS.

Only draw back cause its kind of a redneck place dont know if they are BBC friendly so brothaman might not have a good time. But im not 100% sure of this. just my speculation cause the times I have been there I witnessed it.

Jacbnimbie

09-11-08, 23:34

Yeah the owner is a man with an attitude that's for sure. My problem is the price keeps jumping around. Its worse then going to the gas station. The owner acts like you get a lot for the money. Like what? Sitting on a lousy plastic seat watching a boring porn movie? Yeah that's worth $20. When there is action the price can really climb. Then you stand in line waiting for a chance at some unpleasing plump, downside of middle age woman that you would never pick up off the street. The video camera is another major downer. But it does seem like the owner wants to chase away everyone but his free loading friends. I wonder how that's going to work out for him in paying the bills. Time to find a better place. Besides weren't the cops watching this place? Didn't someone post about seeing cops cars down that road? Probably just cruising looking for a 24hr donut shop.

I agree with Butakal we should just forget about the this place and find somewhere new because this guy doesn'y realize that WE are the reason he's in business so F*** dude and his bookstore. Oh 1 more thing I want to see how tough he really is so I'll go there in person and say it to his face and let's see what he does to me because I guarantee I will put him down with no problem.

Butakal

09-12-08, 04:44

I agree about the price. It seems that there is no set price they just throw numbers as they see fit.

One for the meet and greet etc.. so on and so on.
I am speculating is that this whole change of price was not because of the addition of spa. They saw that it was getting popular with alot of men.

Here is my scenario.

Why do you thing they dont allow you to play on theaters anymore? 1. So the couple will play at the steamroom or back room and single men will have to pay additonal 35 bucks. Its not about the cops and all this bogus excuses. its more revenue.
2. Same couples that go there from 2 years ago and same as of today. To name femcar, avida,Sheba, donna etc.. i have nothing against them. Our quarrels is not with them.

I know you guys think i seem like a broken record of this subject. but after reading that post about the owner threatening words, telling and teaching us that he is a man of his words that he thinks we are some school children.

I dont know about you guys but that dont fly on me. but if you guys still want to be taken advantage of and belittled about single men and wolfpacked thats on you.

Chitown Hustla

09-12-08, 20:50

"Yeah the owner is a man with an attitude that's for sure. My problem is the price keeps jumping around. Its worse then going to the gas station. The owner acts like you get a lot for the money. Like what? Sitting on a lousy plastic seat watching a boring porn movie? Yeah that's worth $20. When there is action the price can really climb. Then you stand in line waiting for a chance at some unpleasing plump, downside of middle age woman that you would never pick up off the street. The video camera is another major downer. But it does seem like the owner wants to chase away everyone but his free loading friends. I wonder how that's going to work out for him in paying the bills. Time to find a better place. Besides weren't the cops watching this place? Didn't someone post about seeing cops cars down that road? Probably just cruising looking for a 24hr donut shop."

The owner, Joe, is Italian so what do you expect? He does come across as a bit of a loudmouth the couple of times I've been at the store and the cops ae probably paid bribes to not bust the bookstore because they are the Melrose Park cops after all. Not that I want it shut down but if any non-Italian owned the bookstore it would have been shut down within 3 months after it opened guaranteed.

Gary Man

09-13-08, 16:26

Posted by NancyB yesterday:

"Last Monday was a great success!! Let's make it happen again this Cuuuming Monday, September 15! I'll be there by 7:30 PM ......And, so too will some of my fave girl/boy friends!! (Femcar??? are you in?)That shower scene last week and all the other stuff goin' on behind the scenes was HOT!! Did you miss it last week? Here is another opportunity...make your Monday night football excuse NOW!
cum play!"

BTW, PHI @ DAL and BAL @ HOU will be playing, as if that matters.
Last week Nancy, Femcar and Avida were there, according to Single Dad. Cover was $35 which included beer and pizza in the party room.

Single Dad, was there an additional charge to get into the spa for single guys?

Anyone else notice a trend here? Or is it my suspicious nature?

Single Dad

09-13-08, 20:40

Jacbnimbie

09-13-08, 20:42

Trend as in price going up? Yeah I sure do. Its just like gas. They raise it a dollar everyone bitches then they lower about 30 cents everyone is happy. Same with the bookstore. It was $15 then $20 then it became $55 for the parties now its dropping to $35. And everyone should be happy. Yeah I see a trend. And its all upward in price.

Posted by NancyB yesterday:

"Last Monday was a great success!! Let's make it happen again this Cuuuming Monday, September 15! I'll be there by 7:30 PM ......And, so too will some of my fave girl/boy friends!! (Femcar??? are you in?)That shower scene last week and all the other stuff goin' on behind the scenes was HOT!! Did you miss it last week? Here is another opportunity...make your Monday night football excuse NOW!
cum play!"

BTW, PHI @ DAL and BAL @ HOU will be playing, as if that matters.
Last week Nancy, Femcar and Avida were there, according to Single Dad. Cover was $35 which included beer and pizza in the party room.

Single Dad, was there an additional charge to get into the spa for single guys?

Anyone else notice a trend here? Or is it my suspicious nature?

Joeys

09-13-08, 21:07

Hello guys,

First time poster here and I've read a lot about the bookstore so I deceided to try to out for the first time today. I got there about 3pm so when I go in it's obviously bookstore behind the counter was a decent looking woman running the register so far things don't look too bad until a CD walked out of the store past me. I pay the 20 and go take a walk around the booths and I see a guy just sitting down by the vending machine kinda gave me the creeps, so I went into the theater and nothing but a sausage fest. There were 2 guys standing by the backwall jerking off inside thier pants, so I walk down past the screen and I find a room with a doctor's table and other gadgets. Kinda weird I guess but I go back up against the wall watch the movie a little more then go to the booths, and I did this 2 or 3 times all the while I noticed a creepy old Hispanic guy who seemed like he was following me everywhere I went. I felt uncomfortable so I went into the booth with no glory hole and rubbed one out and just left. So I have a question for the more experienced gentlemen on here: Do women ever go there and if so what are the best times to catch that action? Is there nudity allowed in the theater and can you walk around the bookstore nude?

Thank You guys.

Joey S.

Gary Man

09-14-08, 20:12

Not sure what "trend" last post was referring to or asking about, but it stands to reason that some gals there may be for reasons other than the love of sex.Yep, that's what I was referring too. I think some of those regular gals maybe getting a kick back on the admission charge.

I asked about in the group if the spa was extra for tomorrow, but got no response.

Joeys:
Spend a little time and RTFF, especially posts 893 & 894.

Here's a nugget for ya:

NancyB posted today:

"Monday night football - Melrose ABS

In the party room..... $35 cover includes pizza, beer, and me want to play? Showers/Spa/Steam room .. or theater let's have some fun! tomorrow Monday, September 15 7:30 PM; Melrose ABS"

LOL

Broome333

09-14-08, 23:52

When I walked in I was told it was 35 for theater and party room, including beer and pizza, but spa was not included in that price. Spa looked to be shut down, and to get from theatre to party room you had to walk outside in the rain. Later in the evening, in an apparent attempt to keep things private, Nancy and Femcar decided to move party to the shower area. No extra charge was levied; seemed like spur of the moment thing.

Not sure what "trend" last post was referring to or asking about, but it stands to reason that some gals there may be for reasons other than the love of sex. Who knows, who cares, as long as I'm not being filmed for the internet, its the best thing since sliced bread.

Anybody try dating in the "vanilla world" lately? 10% fun, 90% pain in the ass, 100% always expensive, usually with a mixed up woman who doesn't know what she wants. I don't ply the street trade or massage parlors, seems too risky and nasty, so 15th avenue, despite some minor hassles, is the best thing going. Not sure that's a good thing, not where I planned on being at this point in my life, but what the hell, a guy's gotta fuck.

I'm not trying to sharpshoot your post or question your opinion, but I'm not sure I can go along with your statement about the ABS being less risky/nasty than mongering at AMPs. If by risky you are refering to LE complications I can see that. If you are refering to STD risk though I would have to question the validity of the statement. While the ABS girls don't get the mileage that a SW or AMP girl does they still have sex with many multiple partners sometimes covered and sometimes not. To me that is a textbook case of risky. Add to that most AMP girls "freshen up" between customers which never happens in the ABS and the nasty factor becomes questionable too. I have enjoyed the ABS several time myself and don't mean to knock the opportunities that it offers, but it is a far cry from risk free and clean.

HappyGardener

09-15-08, 01:25

So I have a question for the more experienced gentlemen on here: Do women ever go there and if so what are the best times to catch that action? Is there nudity allowed in the theater and can you walk around the bookstore nude?
You were there on Sunday which is CD/TV day. Not a good day to pick as your first day. Read my post from a few days ago about teh current management of the theatre. Post #899. Also RTFF. Women are never guarenteed to be there.

We Share2008

09-18-08, 20:45

Hi all,

My wife is interested in working a booth for an Oral Gangbang. Any advice on the correct night or time that would be best. We have read the entire thread and want to avoid the pack mentality so looking for input from others who have done the same.

Thanks

Dudder

09-18-08, 22:13

Did anybody go to the Monday night football party last Monday? Just wondering if it was worthwhile.

Moputter

09-19-08, 16:09

Did anybody go to the Monday night football party last Monday? Just wondering if it was worthwhile.I got there just in time for kickoff. About 10 guys and Nancy looking great. I wasn't able to stay long but she headed to the shower after taking care of a couple of guys and it looked like she was about to put on a great show. I have no idea if anybody else showed up, Femcar or Avida, but I have to say it was well worth the $35. Nancy is incredible!

Joeys

09-19-08, 19:33

Joeys

09-21-08, 15:19

I went to the bookstore Saturday night, but I called earlier whil I was bored at work and asked if any women were there and the lady said there was a couple. I was surprised but I was going to go later in the evening and I was anticipating some action. Got there around 730 nothing but guys there, so I sat in the theater and I actaully talked to a couple of the straight guys who seemed cool they were telling me about their experiences and the girls and whatnot. After about an hour and half or so I'm tempted to go home so as I'm about to leave Im in the lot and walking in was a couple and the lady was hot!!! Blond hair, slim great legs so I walked back into the theater and as soon as they walked it all the guys came in and the theater was alomst packed. They checked the backroom play area and I got excited but they quickly came back out and sat down to watch for about 15 minutes or so before heading to the booths. I had a funny incident as I walked out merely to use the restroom they were infront of me, I was tring to to open the wrong door I said " damn someone's always in there" and they both quickly said this is the restroom over here. So they lock themselves in one of the booths and the line forms, and to my surprise there was another couple in the room next to them that I wasn't even aware of and both doors were locked. I got a great BJ/HJ and busted a fat load wow whe was amazing. I go back to the theater at this point I see a heavy couple in the couples section and I sit there for a half hour and nothing they don't play I guess, during that time a girl with big tits went down to check the playroom again I got excited but she quickly left. A little while later another couple comes in and again just like the 1st couple they just sit there and no action. Later that couple with that hot chick that took care of me came back to the theater they sat down (there are 3 couples at this point) and she started sucked his cock. Wow this was crazy but I left because some dude literally sat next to me and was trying to make conversation with me and I knew he was gay. He didn't try anything but it was already almost midnight, and I already had some fun, although I did want too see more in the private room but I had too work the next day. By the way guys is the owner a older looking guy with 1 hoop earring on his left ear with greyish hair? He litearlly asked to check my id. I guess he though I wasn't young enough but he seemed cool we chatted a bit.

HappyGardener

09-21-08, 17:07

Any action happening tonite at the bookstore? I called and asked the lady who answered she replied no. Can you imagine if a guy walked in the bookstore in the nude to pay for admission, or if she saw a guy walking around nude after he paid? She's the only woman there so why not right?

There is and was a lot of action on Friday night. also saturday afternoon and night. I am curious what are you implying about the woman behind the counter.

Chadwick

09-22-08, 14:16

She just posted that she will be at 15th between 8pm and 9 tonight 09/22/08. For those of you that have not had the pleasure of meating this beautiful lady, I would highly recommend going tonight. I unfortunately have to work but had given calling in a thought, she said she will be in back of the theater, so I am assuming with the new rules that means the small room behind the screen. The theater is .20 but the spa is extra if the party moves in there, I have not seen a posting about monday night football tonight, but I would bring extra cash just in case you never know with this place. But at any rate those of you that are willing to drop the cash will not be disappointed, she is by far the hottest chick that I have had there.

Rub & Tugged

09-22-08, 15:10

She posted that she is going to be at the bookstore tonight....I think it was between 8 and 9.....dirty hooker....

Femcar

09-22-08, 16:55

Are you paying me? I don't recall you paying me so please name me correctly. I am actually just a dirty girl!

Gary Man

09-23-08, 04:27

She posted that she is going to be at the bookstore tonight....I think it was between 8 and 9.....dirty hooker....By dirty do you mean unwashed? If so, that has not been my experience. She always arrives freshly showered and smellin like a rose. (The exception being the conclusion of one of her gang bangs.)

If, by dirty, do you mean kinky, out of this world raunchy PSE? She is that and more!! :D

Careful what you post, you wouldn't want to be known as the Guy who caused her not so show up anymore.

Janey

09-23-08, 12:15

Yes guys the monday nite football parties are EVERY monday night, the cost is $35.00 and includes Beer, Soft Drinks, and Pizza and does include admission to the theater, but does not include the spa area, and remember you are NEVER guaranteed ANY ACTION from anyone!

Janey

09-23-08, 12:18

Are you paying me? I don't recall you paying me so please name me correctly. I am actually just a dirty girl!You tell em FEMCAR!

Rub & Tugged

09-23-08, 17:04

Lighten up, it was just filthy talk. Nobody thinks you are a hooker.

Searching Fun

09-24-08, 18:06

Janey

09-26-08, 00:42

Is there usually "action"? I haven't been able to make it out there yet..but am planning in the near future.Monday Night Football is ACTION ! Why dont you go check it out.

Janey

Jacbnimbie

09-26-08, 09:32

LOL football was not the action he was inquiring about.

Monday Night Football is ACTION ! Why dont you go check it out.

Janey

Gary Man

09-28-08, 00:31

Posted 9/27 at 9:13p:

"Have you been stopped by police outside Melrose?

This incident was reported to me and is posted with permission: "[Thursday] night I (literally) swung into the parking lot at the bookstore, looped out and was stopped by the police before I got to the corner. The plainclothes cops (didn't catch the jurisdiction) asked me about what I was doing over there (which was truthfully nothing) and of course accused me of being there for an hour (standard fishing expedition). They ran my license, and then let me off without anything else to say. Have you heard anything else like this? The cops were sitting in the entrance to the parking lot for the go-kart track across the street. "

I think they're a little late, I hear action at Melrose has dropped off due to the new rules and price structure. This is a waste of manpower, they can easily go in and see whats going on in there. No need to conduct surveillance.

Gary Man

09-28-08, 04:54

Looks like time to look for a new playground.

Posted 9/28 12:07a in response to a question about the GH:

"Anyone know what the changes are this week. It seems there have been some restrictions put on booth play. Anyone know?

Heck, since you two asked, LOL, I'll definitely let you two know (and others that read this now, of course). I didn't wanna reveal it at first because I didn't know if it'd piss off the owner in fear of discouraging people to come. Basically, the glory holes have been closed. The booths are still available, just no holes anymore. At least this was the case yesterday. I'll keep you all updated if it changes. "

"No More Glory Holes"

Only thing I can figure is, maybe they're expecting a visit by LE.

HappyGardener

09-28-08, 16:42

Also posted Sep 27, 2008 at 1:25 PM in response to questions about the "remodeling"

"The "remodeling" is necessary and will benifit everyone in the very
near future. Again i want us to remember that before this was our
favorite venue to play at it is someones business and they have
to "take care of business" so that it continues to be our favorite
venue. The private rooms are great.... I have had lots of
memorable times there as well as many of you, and will contimue to
have more. The steam room is always a great place to relax and unwind
and loosen up a few muscles and have fun as well. The arcade is great
as well just smaller... The theater is for movies and as always
the Party Room is private and can be rented for private parties."

HappyGardener

09-28-08, 22:27

HappyGardener

09-28-08, 22:30

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Broome333

10-01-08, 00:05

"We went friday night around 10' to a ghost town; Shawn out front at a
table demanding ID's and every play room shut down, along with the
closed glory holes. The spa was open, but we just left. It was shocking
and it just felt weird."

Does anyone else find it peculiar that after the "police" visit that resulted in the "no playing in the theater" changes it only took a few days to move the screen, construct the playroom and the install the sling and "repaired" exam table yet it took them a couple weeks to get around to the relatively simple task of closing up the glory holes? Perhaps the police didn't notice the glory holes until they made a follow up visit? I'm sure that's it. Also kind of strange that the play room was closed for remodeling after only a short time in operation not to mention that the remodeling happened to coincide with the closing of the glory holes. Not to panic though, the spa and party room are still there and available for play (for an extra fee of course). I'm sure there will be plenty of "special events" and parties with DJ music and chicken wings to keep things fun as well. After all who is going to miss getting a cheap BJ when they can watch football on a 10 ft screen for only $35? In the end I'm sure all the legal challenges the theater is facing have nothing at all to do with the push they have been making to get people into the spa area. Just a coincidence I'm sure. After all who would suspect a porn theater owner of trying to manuver his customers into spending more money at his place?

Jacbnimbie

10-01-08, 00:31

Very well said !! It should be noted that the police never even entered the building. In fact it was mentioned the police only stopped one car which happened to be turning around and that drew the cops attention. Sounds to me like the owner really just wants that huge 200+ private parties at $55 or more. But will settle for the $35 for the spa on a slow night. This place sure came a long way from the $10 before 5pm and $15 afterwards. I wonder how much the price will be if no one shows up for a couple of months?

Does anyone else find it peculiar that after the "police" visit that resulted in the "no playing in the theater" changes it only took a few days to move the screen, construct the playroom and the install the sling and "repaired" exam table yet it took them a couple weeks to get around to the relatively simple task of closing up the glory holes? Perhaps the police didn't notice the glory holes until they made a follow up visit? I'm sure that's it. Also kind of strange that the play room was closed for remodeling after only a short time in operation not to mention that the remodeling happened to coincide with the closing of the glory holes. Not to panic though, the spa and party room are still there and available for play (for an extra fee of course). I'm sure there will be plenty of "special events" and parties with DJ music and chicken wings to keep things fun as well. After all who is going to miss getting a cheap BJ when they can watch football on a 10 ft screen for only $35? In the end I'm sure all the legal challenges the theater is facing have nothing at all to do with the push they have been making to get people into the spa area. Just a coincidence I'm sure. After all who would suspect a porn theater owner of trying to manuver his customers into spending more money at his place?

Chadwick

10-01-08, 01:54

Does anyone else find it peculiar that after the "police" visit that resulted in the "no playing in the theater" changes it only took a few days to move the screen, construct the playroom and the install the sling and "repaired" exam table yet it took them a couple weeks to get around to the relatively simple task of closing up the glory holes? Perhaps the police didn't notice the glory holes until they made a follow up visit? I'm sure that's it. Also kind of strange that the play room was closed for remodeling after only a short time in operation not to mention that the remodeling happened to coincide with the closing of the glory holes. Not to panic though, the spa and party room are still there and available for play (for an extra fee of course). I'm sure there will be plenty of "special events" and parties with DJ music and chicken wings to keep things fun as well. After all who is going to miss getting a cheap BJ when they can watch football on a 10 ft screen for only $35? In the end I'm sure all the legal challenges the theater is facing have nothing at all to do with the push they have been making to get people into the spa area. Just a coincidence I'm sure. After all who would suspect a porn theater owner of trying to manuver his customers into spending more money at his place?I am a member of the melrose fun group, and as far I can figure out from the postings, the police have not actually gone inside the bookstore.I think they have been stopping people as they leave and harassing them trying to get any info on what is going on inside.I am interested however in finding out if it is just melrose park police ,cook county,state or what.Anyway I think it will all blow over, you have to remember that things like this always happen around election time! It could also be a ploy by management to make more money, answer me this, what is the difference weather the activities go on in the theater, a "private party room", the spa ,or the room behind the screen? They are all still a part of a public place? Just seems fishy to me that's all. And now there is a rumor of anonymous letter being sent to local officials? Who is to benefit from all of this? Surely not the consumer !

Dj Magnum

10-01-08, 23:31

I heard about this place from a few different people. What exactly happens? I am trying to find a girl or a couple or just a group. What can I do? How does it work?

You can im me or contact me privately.

No im not a cop lol

Tattered Man

10-02-08, 04:39

Butakal

10-02-08, 05:29

Dont know about you guys. but if you got alot to loose such as good jobs, high profile individual I would stay away from this place till everything settles down.. I hope there wont or probably will not have a raid but you just dont want to be there if they come down hard with state or local authorities and Media.

If you dont care about yourself or record then enjoy the theater. Although I am very not much of a fan of the place (see previous post). one of my first guess would be due to alot of foot traffic in the place probably one of the office next to it must have called the authority. Im sure once it gets to one of the local councilman its just a matter of time that place is gonna be invaded by the law.

my opinion in this place is still the same these guys keep price jumping. they just take advantage of everyone. they adjust prices pending of the situation that night.

Jacbnimbie

10-02-08, 11:51

I think its always just been about the money. No one seen any letter and only one guy said they were stopped by a cop. The cop probably just wanted to go there for his own fun. I think what's really going on is the spa cost a ton of money to build. Management just inst getting it back from the $20 guys. Instead the real money is in the parties. So management is slowly trying to push everyone away from the $20 and into the spa and parties. They soon turn it into a membership only place at probably $40 a visit and parties at $75 Its always been only about the money.

Dont know about you guys. but if you got alot to loose such as good jobs, high profile individual I would stay away from this place till everything settles down.. I hope there wont or probably will not have a raid but you just dont want to be there if they come down hard with state or local authorities and Media.

If you dont care about yourself or record then enjoy the theater. Although I am very not much of a fan of the place (see previous post). one of my first guess would be due to alot of foot traffic in the place probably one of the office next to it must have called the authority. Im sure once it gets to one of the local councilman its just a matter of time that place is gonna be invaded by the law.

my opinion in this place is still the same these guys keep price jumping. they just take advantage of everyone. they adjust prices pending of the situation that night.

Linguist69

10-03-08, 09:59

They soon turn it into a membership only place at probably $40 a visit and parties at $75
Not all bad. If I understand correctly, if it is a private, membership only place, then that's the end to worries about LEO taking any action against it, regardless of what goes on inside.

Its always been only about the money.
Most businesses are.

Jacbnimbie

10-03-08, 14:02

What private gentleman club do you know of where cops have never ever busted? Cops can go anywhere they want to. And do you honestly think the owner would tell a cop he couldn't enter the place? As if any owner would ever say no. Gentleman clubs have a difference license so that would need changing. Gentleman clubs have a more restricted rules for hours etc. This is one of those be careful what you wish for you just might get it. Also the spa might have to go the video's might have to go. He would need to comply with whatever the private club laws are. And if the walk ins don't show up watch the cost go through the roof. He's already charging $55 and up for the parties.

Not all bad. If I understand correctly, if it is a private, membership only place, then that's the end to worries about LEO taking any action against it, regardless of what goes on inside.

Most businesses are.

Countrybumpkin

10-03-08, 19:42

Is this all true. I was so looking forward to coming there very soon and sharing myself (Female) with all of you gentlemen. If the store is in that much turmoil that means that no one will be there and no sense in me cumming.

Single Dad

10-03-08, 21:42

Orangecrush

10-04-08, 08:59

Not all bad. If I understand correctly, if it is a private, membership only place, then that's the end to worries about LEO taking any action against it, regardless of what goes on inside.

Remember EPC?

HappyGardener

10-04-08, 09:52

Has anybody actually been to 15th in the last two or three weeks? I haven't and I took myself off the yahoo group for all the waste of time that had become.

Sounds like a lot of changes going on at 15th, but I've heard little to nothing here about what sort of action is going on, and if its any different from before.

Finally, I don't "get it". If any of us had invested tons of money in any type of business, isn't your first priority to maximize your rate of return? Why all the second guessing of how the owner charges, even if it does change all the time? Even at 30 or 40 or 50 bucks a head, ain't it still the best thing going? And who cares, other than what's going on there these days? Femcar, Nancy, you still going? And Angel, what has become of sweet, sweet Angel? Still banned? Whatever happened to the rumor of a hotel party with Angel?

With all due respect, there have been many changes in the last year that have altered the nature of the enviroment at 15th. No playing in the theater. No nudity in the theater. No couch, swing, or exam table in the theater.

As for the booth area, my last visit was one week ago and the glory holes were closed up. If you want to play as a couple, you may do so, behind closed doors in a booth, but not in view of anyone else.

So where do you think Femcar and Nancy are going to play? Well, there is the private party room, I suppose. Will Femcar and nancy take the time and initiative to set that up and announce it? There is the spa, which to me is a little like booking an airline ticket these days. I pay one price, then if I want a towel, a room, a locker the fees add up. No sex in the shower by the way. So lets all crowd into a little room that someone has paid for.

So I ask again: Where are they going to play?

Is it the best thing going?: IMHO, no.

I have been lucky enough to attend Melrose events both by myself and in the company of other women. The thrill of Melrose was its spontinanity, and its openness. I enjoyed watching and being watched. Boinking Femcar on the exam table, listening to her moan, and almost tipping it over are great memories. I escorted two women there so they could give multiple blow jobs and be gangbanged before there was a "wolf pack" and the crowds were manageable. I was there multiple times with a woman that enjoyed playing in front of everyone. As far as I can tell, that type of atmosphere does not exist any longer.

It was a really good place for single guys who are normal excluded from teh swinging scene. And lets face it, you are not swingers, you're cheaters. You are swingers if you are bringing a partner to the party.

The LE thing is a very gray area. Did anything happen? Was anybody stopped? Have they visited? All questions that dont seem to have any clear answers. Can they go in if it is a private club? Of course they can. OC brings up the case of Elite Private Club in the River West area of Chicago. Long gone now. You can point to countless cases of cops going into biker clubs, Italian Social clubs, religous compounds. If they have the evidence, they can raid it. You want evidence? Go to bangmyslut dot com and watch the videos of Sheba and her posse.

The owner has every right to run his business the way he wants to run it. We dont have to like it. He can change it, remodel it, change its focus, whatever he wants to do. If a restaurant changes its menu and takes your favorite item off the menu, you stop going. Thats what I intend to do.

I hope Master Michael does not mind me doing this as I did not ask his permission but since Single Dad brought it up.....As far as Angel: I spoke directly to Master Michael about the possibility of a hotel room party for Angel. No way. Not going to happen. And there is no way that they are ever going back to Melrose. There are two sides to every story and the Yahoo group only heard one side.

Melrose was and is one of a kind. In the Chicago area, dating all the way back to the 70s, we have had a history of great place coming and then going. WE only realize after the fact, how unique they were.

Then again, over the last few days a woman took on 171 guys at CTS, so maybe its not all gone...;)

George W. Bush

10-04-08, 12:15

Whiskey Priest

10-04-08, 19:09

I may even have my old membership card around somewhere.

I know I do

Countrybumpkin

10-04-08, 20:17

So according to all of the latest reports it is not worth me cumming. Too bad I was really looking forward to giving a lot of BJ's and wearing a lot of cum from there. Any other suggestions?

Gary Man

10-05-08, 01:02

Then again, over the last few days a woman took on 171 guys at CTS, so maybe its not all gone...;)Average looks at best, Great Rack though. Amazing oral skills. Insatiable. AND a 3 Holer! Also Bi. Her Performance 10+: D

She wants to return towards the end of the month.

Femcars performance was formally the standard, She surpassed it.

With the demise of! 5th st, all of CT'S naysayer's will be crawling back. LOL.

MyName Is

10-05-08, 11:16

I stopped by last night around 10pm for about an hour. Seen about 9 guys through out no females. Spa area was empty. May try earlier next time. Sundays, from what i read, may not be for the straight guy.

Raoul Duke

10-05-08, 20:14

Elite Private Club? Yes, remember it well. I probably could have paid off my mortgatge by now with all the money I spent there. That was a truly great place (except for the little yappy dog.) The city could make so much money legalizing it and getting a slice of the pie. I may even have my old membership card around somewhere.

I think one of my ATF's from 34 ended up working there for a short time (if that's the place that was close to the UC). I wish I could stop time, there were some damn nice girls that I wish were still chompin' on my bit.

SpokenOne69

10-06-08, 10:42

Authorities can enter anyplace if they have reason to believe illegal/criminal activity is taking place. They may need a warrant if it is private, i.e. your house. But, if it is a public place, I doubt that they need a warrant especially if they OBSERVE illegal activity taking place. The question is the definition of "illegal activity". Open sex acts are usually considered lewd behavior. Just research past news articles about various bars in the Chicago area being busted for "lewd behavior"

If being a private club makes one immune from police raids, then I will be the first to open a private club (read brothel)!

Regardless of the aforementioned, I believe it should be a hands off policy especially considering the remote location of this business. Who is being hurt?

Jacbnimbie

10-06-08, 17:57

Even the lewd behavior/illegal activity is questionable. Look at Senator Craig. Yeah we all hate the guy but that isn't the issue. All he did was foot tap. He didn't show cock, he didn't offer money, none of what truly could be considered illegal. Yet he got busted. Abit he was stupid to admit it but then many of us have made that mistake too when stopped by a cop. If the cops want in they will get inside Melrose. In fact management will open the door and let them in. No way is the owner going to say no you can't go inside get a warrant. The final point is all place eventually get hassled by cops. Now its Melrose's turn so why is everyone so surprised ? And truth is who has seen a cop there ? Just driving down a street doesn't count as a visit. I think its all crap just to raise the price yet again.

Authorities can enter anyplace if they have reason to believe illegal/criminal activity is taking place. They may need a warrant if it is private, i.e. your house. But, if it is a public place, I doubt that they need a warrant especially if they OBSERVE illegal activity taking place. The question is the definition of "illegal activity". Open sex acts are usually considered lewd behavior. Just research past news articles about various bars in the Chicago area being busted for "lewd behavior"

If being a private club makes one immune from police raids, then I will be the first to open a private club (read brothel)!

Regardless of the aforementioned, I believe it should be a hands off policy especially considering the remote location of this business. Who is being hurt?

MyName Is

10-07-08, 12:05

On the y**** it was advertised for pizza and to watch the game yesterday. At least 5 people i met were also disappointed. Not cool.

Two couples showed up.

The game for those interested Vikings 30 - New Orleans 27. Sound like a good one to me.

All and all a good evening - except for those damn c@ck blockers.

Be Safe.

HappyGardener

10-08-08, 10:34

I am a little unclear on your report. Did the couples play? How were you cocblocked? Was the event canceled? Was there any food? Sorry for the questions, but just not getting the picture

Bulls143

10-08-08, 11:16

I havent been here in about 2 months and I see all these crazy posts. Whats going on? I used to go in, pay my 20 buck fee," play" with the " girls " and go home. Anyone wanna fill me in....

IcedOut

10-10-08, 01:29

I havent been here in about 2 months and I see all these crazy posts. Whats going on? I used to go in, pay my 20 buck fee," play" with the " girls " and go home. Anyone wanna fill me in....Its over for 15th.

Gary Man

10-10-08, 15:27

The Melrose group is not gone, it's just had a name change, (in an effort to get the Heat off.) With that being said, they're still planning on holding a big Halloween bash.

Just F'n nuts!!

Tomti

10-10-08, 15:28

I can't seem to find it.

Honda Ford

10-10-08, 18:50

Chicago Biker

10-11-08, 22:38

Jacbnimbie

10-12-08, 11:28

Its always been about the money. This is a place that went from $10 to $15 then $20 then $35 for MNF then $55 min for a party. Average guys who go to the theater / booth for sex are not going to pay over $20. And Melrose needs more the $20 to help pay off the spa and pay bills. So yeah they will change this to a couples / swingers place. As for the cops that never was or is a problem. They stopped one car big deal. The cops have never even been inside of Melrose. That's just a scare tactic so they can eventually raise the prices. As if somehow raising prices or turning into a swingers club keeps cops out. News flash cops can go into a swingers club too.

It sounds to me as if they are trying to change the Bookstore from what it was, to a Swingers Club. For the couples who attend, there are much better options, than what is available to them at this place.

Biker

Honda Ford

10-12-08, 11:33

I been going for little over a year n half now and the couple to single men ratio is way off. If they plan on making for couples only it wouldnt last. Unless they charge the couple big $$.

It sounds to me as if they are trying to change the Bookstore from what it was, to a Swingers Club. For the couples who attend, there are much better options, than what is available to them at this place.

Biker

Unbelheathen

10-16-08, 00:16

I was there about 8:30 - 9; still Pizza, Wings, and soda, no women in the party room or theatre or booth area.

I did see one open glory hole, and the gyno table is set up in a room behind the screen that was freely accessible, but the joint was pretty dead for a supposed party.

On the y**** it was advertised for pizza and to watch the game yesterday. At least 5 people i met were also disappointed. Not cool.

Two couples showed up.

The game for those interested Vikings 30 - New Orleans 27. Sound like a good one to me.

All and all a good evening - except for those damn c@ck blockers.

Be Safe.

GoldenGreek

10-16-08, 04:25

I blame Sheeba , her husband and all those other sluts for all of this in addition to the owner becoming a money hungry POS.

It will bite him in the ass and the place will be closed within the year IMO

Jacbnimbie

10-16-08, 09:15

Pizza, soda, and MNF ain't worth $35 i can sit in my favorite watering hole and watch the game for a lot less. And if this place stays dead watch that $35 start to increase.

I was there about 8:30 - 9; still Pizza, Wings, and soda, no women in the party room or theatre or booth area.

I did see one open glory hole, and the gyno table is set up in a room behind the screen that was freely accessible, but the joint was pretty dead for a supposed party.

MyName Is

10-16-08, 15:48

I was there about 8:30 - 9; still Pizza, Wings, and soda, no women in the party room or theatre or booth area.

I did see one open glory hole, and the gyno table is set up in a room behind the screen that was freely accessible, but the joint was pretty dead for a supposed party.I was there on 10/6 from 8:45pm. 11:30pm and, as I reported, there was no football, pizza, or drinks (unless you purchased water or soda from the machine, or got the coffee) also there are and were 4 glory holes.not one. The party room was closed. I have not seen the party room open for almost 2 weeks. And there were couples in the booth area.

To say otherwise would not be truthful.

As for MNF on 10/13 one of the persons behind the counter said there would be no football, pizza, ect.

I am not sure what was to gain my that false post.

MyName Is

10-16-08, 15:51

I was there about 8:30 - 9; still Pizza, Wings, and soda, no women in the party room or theatre or booth area.

I did see one open glory hole, and the gyno table is set up in a room behind the screen that was freely accessible, but the joint was pretty dead for a supposed party.I was there on 10/6 from 8:45pm - 11:30pm and, as I reported, there was no football, pizza, or drinks (unless you purchased water or soda from the machine, or got the coffee) also there are and were 4 glory holes -not one. The party room was closed. I have not seen the party room open for almost 2 weeks. And there were couples in the booth area.

To say otherwise would not be truthful.

As for MNF on 10/11 one of the persons behind the counter said there would be no football, pizza, ect on 10/13/08. Is this the date you are refering to?

Tomti

10-17-08, 12:31

I have not been to the play house in weeks, can anyone give me any info on how Friday nights have been lately, no B. S. Please, say between 7-10pm

Thanks

If you don't feel comfortable posting please private message me.

Thanks

Bulls143

10-17-08, 19:45

First no more nudity in the open theater. There are rooms (with doors) builted behind the screen now for people to play.

Second. The glory holes are gone (seal up).

Third Friday and Saturday nights the party room is couple/single lady only. Couple pays $40 I think.

Well if this is the case I wont be going back. The owner best rethink cause I think the 20 dollar movie theatre, free booths ( which I never used ) and a play free for all in the theatre was good. Everytime I went there was at least a 100 count head in and out of the 3 hours I was there so 2G is good. Maybe im wrong. I dont know about this joint anymore. I havent been there in a while. Good post will reel me and my friends back. Laters

Tomti

10-18-08, 01:27

Here is the real deal about the playhouse, I was there this pm from 8-10. First off it is considered a membership club with a sign posted by the theater that strictly prohibit any recording devices. Next I went in to the theater and straight to the room behind the screen, it exceeded my expectation vs the b. S. Posters talking bad about it, it was relatively large, at least 15 people could easily fit in if not more and it had 2, yes two gynee table and the swing. Next up I went to the booths and again someone was lying thru their teeth, the glory holes were there and not only that, they were probably never boarded up because I did not see one screw or nail hole, so the play areas were fine in my opinion, I actually like that back room. Now for the bad news, not one women was playing, matter of fact, the only woman I saw came in for some toys and did not even go in to the theater or booth area. There were a couple of cd's that were playing in the booths for awhile. So the playhouse was playable so to speak. So here is my take, some bashers who posted for weeks on the other message board basically scared the crappola out of women and couples and play has probably slowed down to a crawl. My opinion is the owners know what they are doing and will get the women back in to the playhouse over time once the fear factor wears off. I would guess it was the owners of cts or whatever its called in indiana who started the smear campaign against melrose. I bet things are back to normal slowly but surely over the fall and winter and will be in good form by the spring, hope this helps. Any other questions pm me.

LapDogg

10-19-08, 18:34

Ericdrumz

10-19-08, 18:44

So a couple of weeks ago on a Friday night, my girlfriend & I decided to give Melrose a try. We're exceptionally adventurous sexually, and the idea of getting it on either in front of a couple of guys, or playing with another couple, was just too damned enticing to resist.

So, we do our research, discover this forum, read EVERY SINGLE post / comment / whatever here, and in the end, just make the decision to go and see for ourselves on a Friday night when we expect to find at least ONE other couple there. We do make contact with a woman who expresses an interest in meeting us in the spa, but of course, that never happened.

IN ANY EVENT, once the earth cooled and the dinosaurs came and went, we get there around 10, and the place is, indeed, quite dead. We pay for the spa, a private room, theatre access, etc etc, and have to say it wasn't quite as exciting as we thought it might be. There were about 8 or 9 older guys in the theatre masturbating, whatever might have been behind the screen was locked, and the 10 guys in the spa seemed to be waiting for me to give them permission to come in and bang my girl.

HOWEVER, considering that we'd just spent about $70, we decided to make the best of it. We go to the spa, get into our room, I give my girl some words of encouragement, she tells me she's good to go, and we hit the shower. Then into the sauna. Now understand that while she's adventurous, she's NOT Sheba, Femcar, or anyone at that level just yet. Hence, we'd been hoping to meet at LEAST another couple, if for no other reason than to get my girl in the company of another woman, thereby maybe garnering some of the other woman's willingnes, so to speak. As it was, we started to try to make something happen together, but I guess having sex in a very hot, humid room is an aquired taste, ya know?

To bring this whole thing to a close, before we gave it up and left, we stepped outside for some cool air, and Sheba did indeed show up with her hubby. We waited about another 30 minutes, but as we decided to leave, we noticed that she had decided to use the booths, and while it may have been fun to play with her as a couple (and invite another guy or two into the mix, the whole energy of the place just seemed so. Well. Forced.

Sorry. We'd love to give it another go, but our guess is that either we've missed the boat on 15th, it's glory days behind it, or we just didn't do something right. C'est la vie.

Qteepie

10-19-08, 18:57

Jacbnimbie

10-19-08, 20:44

Born Loser 5

Terra SanctaNaw the truth is its all about money and always has been. Merose can't pay off the spa bills with $20 a person. And how many $55+parties is he having? Not enough. So he's out to turn it into a swingers club / gentleman's club then raise the price through the roof. And he got plenty of fall guys to go around. Verizon zombies, disgruntled former group members, cops driving down the street, etc. By x-mas he'll make some goofy announcement about how great these changes are but that he also has to create a membership fee as well as door fees. That's in addition to party fees, spa fees, etc. All the rest of the stuff being posted in the groups is just a smoke screen to raising the prices. Time will tell if I'm right.

I wouldn't be so quick to blame the other club for this. Things have fallen off there as well.

Certain members began smear campaigns on their own (remember janetCD) and things at both bookstores began to change with the arrival of sheeba and her crew (including film crew) at both stores.

I personally think that many of the women were scarred off with the frequent video taping and all of the aholes that wanted to take pictures all of the time.

Many of the women came to the bookstores for fun and to satisfy their kinky sides (or their husbands kinky sides). They also have private lives and don't want to be seen all over the internet as with many of the mongers that go there.

Single Dad

10-19-08, 20:57

Seems like most of y'all are like me, sideline observers. I haven't been there in at least a couple months, but am still curious as to what's happening there.

Sheba and Rogue struck me as professionals, or at least semi pros, given their active solicitation of men to come and visit them and to be videotaped. Certainly changed the tenor of things there.

I've resigned from the yahoo group. Do Sheba and Rogue still actively promote their upcoming events?

I consider myself lucky to have been there "back in the day" when the likes of Femcar, Angel and Nancy B showed up with no agenda other than to be fucked hard and often. Maybe that's still happening (sans Angel) but doesn't sound like it.

Shebahubby

10-19-08, 22:26

You obviously don't know much about what we do or our play which does not include anyone that doesn't want to be in it. We have never posted anything of anyone without permission from the person and we always post what our intent is each time we go. We have been to CT's one time in the past about a year ago and have never been back since. And we go to melrose a few times a month unlike those who practically live there. As far as "film crew" it is just me usually or I might ask a friend who is there to take a few of our play. As far as Femcar, we know her as our friend and have never taken pictures of her or anyone else that did'nt want to. But hey people are going to B***H no matter what so like I said everyone need a skapegoat,

Peace,

Sheba38c_hubby

I wouldn't be so quick to blame the other club for this. Things have fallen off there as well.

Certain members began smear campaigns on their own (remember janetCD) and things at both bookstores began to change with the arrival of sheeba and her crew (including film crew) at both stores.

I personally think that many of the women were scarred off with the frequent video taping and all of the aholes that wanted to take pictures all of the time.

Many of the women came to the bookstores for fun and to satisfy their kinky sides (or their husbands kinky sides). They also have private lives and don't want to be seen all over the internet as with many of the mongers that go there.

Sillylikeu

10-20-08, 00:28

I wouldn't be so quick to blame the other club for this. Things have fallen off there as well.

Certain members began smear campaigns on their own (remember janetCD) and things at both bookstores began to change with the arrival of sheeba and her crew (including film crew) at both stores.

I personally think that many of the women were scarred off with the frequent video taping and all of the aholes that wanted to take pictures all of the time.

Many of the women came to the bookstores for fun and to satisfy their kinky sides (or their husbands kinky sides). They also have private lives and don't want to be seen all over the internet as with many of the mongers that go there.I would agree. I visited the bookstore a few times with my husband, never played. The one time I was all ready to play I get there only to see video and picture taking. I certainly do no want my picture floating around the net. If Sheba or others want to take pictures to document the experience I would suggest they find a place where no one entering the place minds. Clubs that I have visited never allow cameras or recording devices.

Uknowimnogood

10-20-08, 21:09

As an original patron of 15th ave I would have to agree that this place has been going down hill ever since the pro's and semi pros crawled in off the street. Its sad to think that Femcar is probally the last of her type (women who do it for the pleasure). But its obvious that the ones who are showing up and posting on there groups that there coming are doing it for me than just sex. Guess we will have to face that some come for lust others for there greed.

Just to ad another something to consider where did the place come from who really backs it?

Here's where the galaxy got its start

This business was opened because of corruption. Robert Natale, the mayor of Stone Park at the time the business opened, took a $5,000 bribe from deceased mobster Anthony Centracchio (who at the time controlled the near western suburbs and DuPage County for the Chicago mob), in order to allow this "bookstore" to open. Centracchio's other upstanding contributions to local suburban commerce included illegal video poker machines, and an abortion clinic in another near western suburb. The mob's payoff man in Stone Park at the time was a former Stone Park police Lieutenant , one Thomas Tucker. He essentially acted as go-between for the mob and the mayor. The listed owner of the business is one Joseph Annecca. Annecca's brother Michael "Moon" Annecca, and one Mike O'Malley, have acted as managers of the Galaxy adult bookstore.

Bulls143

10-20-08, 23:26

I would agree. I visited the bookstore a few times with my husband, never played. The one time I was all ready to play I get there only to see video and picture taking. I certainly do no want my picture floating around the net. If Sheba or others want to take pictures to document the experience I would suggest they find a place where no one entering the place minds. Clubs that I have visited never allow cameras or recording devices.

They only take pics of the girls....Not the men , ecept their cock..... Damm

Bulls143

10-20-08, 23:31

Sillylikeu

10-20-08, 23:46

They only take pics of the girls....Not the men , ecept their cock..... DammBulls143,

Exactly I am a girl and I don't want anyone taking pictures of me.

I don't care if they edit it out the face or not.

HappyGardener

10-21-08, 18:15

Been w Sheeba n hubby. They only video her and youre cock UNLESS you wanna be some porn star...Im a man from the south side of Chicago but most of these men are stupid. Sometimes a good thing becomes a BAD THING..........SAD....

There have been others video taping other than Sheeba. I know, I have been there when they were doing it. I saw the camera angles. I saw the viewfinders. There were face shots then. You cant help be seen if you are standing there watching. Hmmm guess Im one of the stupid ones for not wanting my face on the internet. Or the tattoos that I have in areas that would be seen if u were shooting below my waist.

Silky and others make a valid point that people were scared off by the cameras. Not just Shebas, but the still cams and cell phones and the voyers who claimed the pix were just for them. Promises to obscure faces are just empty promises in the anonymous world we travel in.

I can say that without a doubt the three woman that I brought to the club would NOT want their pictures taken there.

Shebahubby

10-21-08, 19:17

I am Definatley not responsible for what others do but as far as what we do it has never been hiden and I have always been upfront with people about it. I do edit all faces out as well as tattos and many times shirt logos incase its a work shirt. I let the men and women know that I will be taking pictures and vids and that if I do post anything their faces and distinguishing marks will be edited. I have had several men tell me they wanted their face on it and didn't care because they have been in Am-porn. Even then I usually edit out their faces anyway. Your not stupid for not wanting your face on the web as many do not want their family or friends and co-workers knowing and We understand that. Its seems like Sheba and I are getting the short end of this for our play even though we have never slighted anyone in it or misused or misrepresented our intent in anyway. Apparently Some on this site have a bone to pick with Melrose, so why take it out on us. We love the venue and play there as well as other places and at times without our cameras. Thats still our choice. I always say if you don't want to be in our play because I'm taking pictures or vids thats your choice. Or simply let me know and usualy I will not take vids or pictures to accomodate you (usually). There has been nights where I didn't take any pictures and simply had fun playing and watching her play.

Peace

L AKA Sheba38c_hubby

There have been others video taping other than Sheeba. I know, I have been there when they were doing it. There were face shots then. You cant help be seen if you are stading there watching. Hmmm guess Im one of the stupid ones for not wanting my face on the internet

Single Dad

10-21-08, 22:58

Am curious to stop by Friday night, but last I heard a single guy like me is only allowed in theater, but no nudity/sex is allowed there. Couples and ladies can go to party room, but not single guys.

Is my understanding correct?

If I am correct, why would a single guy ever visit? Not trying to stir up trouble, just trying to understand what the deal is, and if its worth my 20, 35 or whatever dollars.

(doesn't seem that long ago that I could pay my 20 and hang out in theater and see what happened; might be nothing at all except a bunch of creepy guys, or one might be blown by Angel or get to fuck Patricia doggy style in a booth)

Those were the days my friend, I thought they'd never end.

HappyGardener

10-22-08, 00:58

Hi all,

I was reading the posts and decided I needed to ask before I wasted my time. I will be visiting chicago for a month starting next weekend and wanted to visit the bookstore as I frequent the bookstore in my area Moviethon. Will it be worth my time? Will there be guys there? I am just looking to have some fun and take as many guys as I can.
Are you a man or a woman? You may also want to check out the NW Indiana thread for a place known as CTS. http://usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=2746

HappyGardener

10-22-08, 01:56

Really well done. Thank you Ericdrumz, for taking the time to write it.
http://usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=716387&postcount=975

Shebahubby

10-22-08, 17:37

If you are coming to Chicago go to Melrose and if you want a choice there is CTs in NW indiana but Between the two (melrose and CTs) My personal choice is Melrose, much cleaner, larger, spa & Showers, lockers as well as larger theater, back room behind theater for more fun as well as 16 arcade booths with 6 that have gloryholes in them for more fun. Staff is very helpful. Cts is smaller and dirty. Think it was an old garage or gas station turned into a strip club then now a small theater (my living room is bigger seriously) about 4-5 booths very small and not clean in anyway. Staff is nice. Pete is ok and the guys that hang are cool. Guys that go to both are usually friendly. Both have a exam table but melrose also has private rooms with massage tables or padded bech style seats/bed. Again there is a choice and have been to both (CTs one time and melrose lots of times) We would choose Melrose. But hey its all in what you want and are looking for.

Peace,

L

Are you a man or a woman? You may also want to check out the NW Indiana thread for a place known as CTS. http://usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=2746

Tomti

10-23-08, 13:16

Are motivated by one of two things, 1. They are linked to a competitive business and have seen their business fall dramatically or 2. They have a beef to pick with ownership. I am very objective on the subject and will continue to give my feedback. I have been going to swing clubs and theaters for over 30years and go to the playhouse about once and month except over the summer when I have more free time. The playhouse by far is the best bang for its buck for the right group of people. Who are those, first off very adventurous couples, women who like to be gang banged, voyeurs and of course horny males who like to play.

Here is the deal, the playhouse was fantastic before the bashing started. On any given Friday night there were 10-20 couples in the theater, some playing, some watching, on Friday's you actually had 2 shifts, the early bird couples who would get there at around 7 and stay until 9or10 and then you would have the later group of couples filtering in about 9 and leaving around 12. Single women would float in all night long. Some days you had femcar, nancy, honey, etc. All playing at once. Then the chit hit the fan and the conspiracy to hurt the playhouse started and the couples and single women dried up dramatically. Like I posted a few days ago, I went last Friday from 7-9 and no action whatsoever. The bashing worked for the time being. The club is very playable for couples and single women with that back room behind the theater screen a nice place to play as well as the booths. The owners need to come up with a way to get the word out to the right folks without getting the word out to those that want to stagnate the play at Melrose, ie, the bashers. The owners have a tough road in my opinion but they are smart businessmen and my gut says they will get the women and couples back. All in my opinion and mine alone.

Jacbnimbie

10-23-08, 14:15

Several things bother me. I saw a video of Rouge with several black guys doing her. And while they were doing her a white arm reaches over and takes pictures using a cell phone camera. He was taking head/face shots. I mention their races as way of identifying not as a racist remark. The fact that it was a white arm made it clear he was not part of the actual action. Maybe those black guys didn't mind. But it does bother me and probably others too that anyone with a cell phone can snap away at me while I'm too busy to notice it.

Another point you left out was the cost. Now I hate CT's its a lousy dirty place. That said its only $10. Melrose has one price to get in, another for the spa, another for a lock, another for a locker, another for your parties. Not just me but others have posted it can cost easily $70 just to walk around and find only a few people none of which are playing. Sorry Sheba but I know you ain't paying that price. In fact you do make a profit off your parties. So don't jump on us who complain about the much higher cost unless you pay it too. Final point is Melrose hasn't been the same since you and your film crew showed up. It used to be a nice quiet place to go and have fun. Now everyone is in fear of cops, pic taking, higher costs. The ygroups can't even say the name Melrose. How immature is that. You really think the cops are going to bust them because someone said Melrose out loud? At least we can talk openly in here. As much as I hate CT's their business is really picking up.

If you are coming to Chicago go to Melrose and if you want a choice there is CTs in NW indiana but Between the two (melrose and CTs) My personal choice is Melrose, much cleaner, larger, spa & Showers, lockers as well as larger theater, back room behind theater for more fun as well as 16 arcade booths with 6 that have gloryholes in them for more fun. Staff is very helpful. Cts is smaller and dirty. Think it was an old garage or gas station turned into a strip club then now a small theater (my living room is bigger seriously) about 4-5 booths very small and not clean in anyway. Staff is nice. Pete is ok and the guys that hang are cool. Guys that go to both are usually friendly. Both have a exam table but melrose also has private rooms with massage tables or padded bech style seats/bed. Again there is a choice and have been to both (CTs one time and melrose lots of times) We would choose Melrose. But hey its all in what you want and are looking for.

Peace,

L

Shebahubby

10-24-08, 05:00

That said, You have been mistaken in several points but thats because you think you actually know what we do or what is happening. First this is not Sheba This is her husband "L". We don't have a film Crew as some would like to call it as it is usually just me taking the pictures and vids. Every now and then friends that play with us will help out in taking pictures or vids while I operate the other. Rogues play is not always with us and she doesn't state her intentions we do and always have. As far as Pricing you are right to say the CT's is $10 and that the playhouse has different prices for different areas but when we arrived it went from free for couples to $10 per couple which we had no problem in paying And I am a friend of the owner and still payed. We drive from wisconsin and stay in a hotel so our weekend cost much more then what you would pay at the playhouse. The Meet & Greet is for our yahoo group and for what you get we are considered inexpensive in every sense of the word. You started this on the yahoo groups as well and I suppose didn't want to hear the truth when she and well as I said we don't make hardly anything because we do this more for those in the lifestyle, The playhouse charges to use the party room and spa, On that weekend we get our expense covered and the last meet and greet I made a whopping $400 after my initial expense. Not counting what I paid for supplying the Hard alcohol and Poosie Power drinks. Left me with a grand total of $150 actual profit of which I put it right back into the halloween party towards the Chocolate buffett which will easily run me over $200 just for that. Not counting everything else I'm supplying. First off I don't need to explain myself to anyone as far as if I make money on the event or not. Why don't you call melrose and try to rent the party room and the spa and you will find out depending on your #'s what He will charge you (don't faint now LOL). I have planned events for over 20 years that makes this look like small club gathering. So unless you actually know what percent we actually make and what we are charged and what expenses we accuire your speculation is bogus. Again your allowed your opnion here for sure but you would think you would want to be factual instead of presumptuous and mistaken. Don't get me wrong as I have kept the price for our Meet and Greets just low enough so that I can pay for everything and come out in the black to seed that into the next party. As far as what melrose prices are that is their business and not mine and we are no different then anyone else when we go on the weekends except that I am a friend of the owner, yet I still ask permission to do those things that Sheba and I love doing

Peace L

Several things bother me. I saw a video of Rouge with several black guys doing her. And while they were doing her a white arm reaches over and takes pictures using a cell phone camera. He was taking head/face shots. I mention their races as way of identifying not as a racist remark. The fact that it was a white arm made it clear he was not part of the actual action. Maybe those black guys didn't mind. But it does bother me and probably others too that anyone with a cell phone can snap away at me while I'm too busy to notice it.

Another point you left out was the cost. Now I hate CT's its a lousy dirty place. That said its only $10. Melrose has one price to get in, another for the spa, another for a lock, another for a locker, another for your parties. Not just me but others have posted it can cost easily $70 just to walk around and find only a few people none of which are playing. Sorry Sheba but I know you ain't paying that price. In fact you do make a profit off your parties. So don't jump on us who complain about the much higher cost unless you pay it too. Final point is Melrose hasn't been the same since you and your film crew showed up. It used to be a nice quiet place to go and have fun. Now everyone is in fear of cops, pic taking, higher costs. The ygroups can't even say the name Melrose. How immature is that. You really think the cops are going to bust them because someone said Melrose out loud? At least we can talk openly in here. As much as I hate CT's their business is really picking up.

Tomti

10-24-08, 11:22

I was there last Friday, there is a big sign, no cameras, no video equipment, and no use of cell phones beyond the entry point of the theater and the back rooms, so stop being misleading. With the sensitivity about recording devices no one and I mean no one is going to get away with taking any pictures or video. Regarding the price, LOL. Most play that you would be interested in happens in the theater and the booths. Regarding parties, show me a party you can attend for less than the playhouse, you can't. If you can't afford the 20 bucks for the majority of the action your money is probably better spent elsewhere in my opinion, stop bashing you are dead wrong.

Shebahubby

10-24-08, 16:50

That is your choice for sure and I have and will never take random pictures of others playing in the theater or spa or anywhere for that matter unless asked by the couple who is playing or the gal which many times I have been for their own record. I agree that and totally understand why people don't want to have their faces or bodies online and I don't VIDEO OR TAKE THEIR PICTURES AT ALL! LOL thought I had to emphasize that. Hey thats our play and it doesn't include anyone else. Its simple go see those pictures for yourselves and there is not a one that we have in them that didn't know what the intent was or what we were doing. In fact I have stopped people from taking "Private" photos when we were there playing and asking them if they had permission from those playing even to the point of management actually taking a camera and deleting the pictures on it from one guy who took shots without permission.

Peace,

L

Bulls143,

Exactly I am a girl and I don't want anyone taking pictures of me.

I don't care if they edit it out the face or not.

Shebahubby

10-24-08, 17:25

Just to fill on those wondering in or those nay-sayers who maybe got kicked out of the place LOL (oops your bad). The playhouse is the BEST THING going for those who love to get their freak on in a private/public place, You can be a voyuer, you can participate, you can shower (always good to be clean and not smelly), you can go steam (that is great to relax and also fun in the steam room isn't bad too), There are gals that show up from time to time whether single or married, I'll tell you what affects people from going at times, Its the crap that some negitive people (like some that might have gotten kicked out) or others who are jealous of other people getting the attention, or simply those who are just to cheap to pay the Dam $20. To. Wait go to a movie and arcade not just for one showing but able to have that ticket ALL DAY from when they arrived to close. I don't know, the last time I looked the movies at most Adult theaters for one showing or a double header was Min. $10-$15 and no arcade and usually no single females or couples wanting action. Back to Melrose now. Then they added a Spa section and Party room (yeah good stuff), Now after you have some fun you can go clean up and even relax in the steam room. Hey if you find someone you like and want some private time you can rent a private room in the spa for $40 which may be high but we rented a room for 4 hours at a motel which was ok for a bunch of us after a night of clubbing and paid a little more than that. The thing is that it is all in the same place! You don't have to hunt a room down when your wanting some one on one time. If your wanting to throw a party there is the party room that they do rent out for parties as I have done bachelor parties there as well as Meet & Greets and more. Its private and very nice with two private rooms in the party room for use of those renting them, A full bar area and DJ sound and lighting and now a big screen with video projector. If you bring your own lock (if you don't want to pay their price for one) the lockers are FREE! So you can leave your clothes or bring a change of clothes as well. They have a lounge area set up in the arcade area as well as the spa as well as outside. How can anyone say they haven't tried to accomodate those who frequent the playhouse. The private parties are not ran by melrose but different groups or orginizations but people love to ball it all together. Hey if you don't want to go because you think its to expensive then simple DON'T GO. If you want the Theater and Arcade the price hasn't changed in over a year. The spa cost a little more but if you don't want to you don't have too. But why bash it. I don't see you picketing the gas stations for the rise of gas prices LOL. Or anyone bashing the owners of those stations or those who fill up there LOL! Thats funny "fill up"! Anyway 15th Ave. In My estimation as well as alot of others may have its problems and growing pains but its still "THE BEST PLACE GOING! My wife and I drive from wisconsin 2 1/2 hours one way to have fun there and usually stay at a nice hotel too. So our weekends with the cost of melrose. Well. Wished we lived closer LOL as we would be there more for sure.

Peace L

I was there last Friday, there is a big sign, no cameras, no video equipment, and no use of cell phones beyond the entry point of the theater and the back rooms, so stop being misleading. With the sensitivity about recording devices no one and I mean no one is going to get away with taking any pictures or video. Regarding the price, LOL. Most play that you would be interested in happens in the theater and the booths. Regarding parties, show me a party you can attend for less than the playhouse, you can't. If you can't afford the 20 bucks for the majority of the action your money is probably better spent elsewhere in my opinion, stop bashing you are dead wrong.

LapDogg

10-24-08, 20:26

Jacbnimbie

10-24-08, 21:23

I think that sign is obeyed as much as speed limit signs are. LOL I suppose I shouldn't say that. Someone will accuse me of bashing just for having a sense of humor.

I wonder if those that are taking videos and pictures have ever seen the sign. If there is a sign, there is no way that anyone would disobey the rules and take pictures is there?

Single Dad

10-24-08, 22:26

Is a class act.

I didn't care for the advertising and the videotaping that changed the 'feel' of Friday nights at the playhouse that they attended, but Sheba and her husband were always as nice as could be, and he is very patient here in explaining what's what. I liked the adventure and spontaneity of the old days as to who might show up and what might happen, as opposed to the lights, camera, action scene, but to each his own.

More importantly though, what is going on at 15th these days? Are single guys still limited to the theater on Friday/Saturday nights? And if so, is it dead in the theater/room behind the theater with no women, no couples, no nudity allowed?

I'm not heading back, if ever, until there seems to be a reason to. Hard to tell what's going on; sounds like an active dis-information campaign is being waged on top of everything else.

HappyGardener

10-25-08, 01:38

Another point you left out was the cost. Melrose has one price to get in, another for the spa, another for a lock, another for a locker, another for your parties..

you are sounding like a broken record. Ok we get it. THe price has gone up. Half of your posts have dealt with the prices at Melrose. Either get over it, and stop complaining, or deal with it and move on.

Shebahubby

10-26-08, 17:07

Well the signs you are refering to was recently posted for all, and yes I do obey them as well lol. I have personally talked to the owner about different issues that have come up on our groups that needed to be addressed and even saw a friend of mine who runs a few groups at the Theater this past friday night (he runs stick it through 2) and we discussed some issues and he went there to "see for himself" what all the who-ha was and I do believe left more than satisfied. You have to understand even though the owner is a personal friend I will not and I mean WILL NOT go against his rules for His store. What i do in a private room with sheba is my business as well as when we use the party room for My Groups events and Meet & Greets where I am allowed to do things that the store will policy now negates. See I do obey the spped limit signs lol (well most times lol.) Anyway if you see me with camera in areas that you think I shouldn't be with camera you need to know that either the rule was changed (that is the managements choice) or I have gotten permission from the Ower to do so. Again its the best place going!!!

Peace,

L

I wonder if those that are taking videos and pictures have ever seen the sign. If there is a sign, there is no way that anyone would disobey the rules and take pictures is there?