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I can see shutting places down that could be forcing women to do things against their will but the government should be smarter and make it legal and tax it. Think about how much money doesn't get reported as income by either the store or the masseuse. Make it legal and regulate it.Sorry Rick (this will never be made legal in MO).
The 3 police reports within the PD article.
https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/crestwood-massage-parlor-a-prostitution-hub-lawsuit-alleges/article_11fa6937-7a9c-572a-a088-de40a188d8ee.html
Options?
Stop making "detailed" postings on the open forum for everyone to read. Be careful who you share with.
"We" live in Missouri. One of the most conservative, Christian, Republican States in the country. This story makes great click bait and water cooler gossip.
Eden has a 200 half hour FS price; also 3 tiers for a full hour, 200 250 300, for he massage, mutual oral, and FS. I'm sure she'd take a tip beyond that, if you offered it, but not necessary: it's all in the base price.Thank you for the info. I saw Eden today and she is incredible. You guys are truly lucky here in St Louis to have her.
HotStoneStl
06-08-21, 19:57
The MO Attorney General has his sights on higher office titles. He needs a few more wins or settlements on his Hope Initiative to help jumpstart his run for Senate. So, note the wording and you tell me if you were pulled over you would ever state things like that unless you were coerced in to that being the way you get to drive away without charges. Prostitution Hub? Wow, even if it were true, all of the citations talk about one worker maybe 2 that work there. If you recall back when Halley was AG, he did this same thing in Springfield. Tried to sting 13 places, and all of the allegations and charges were dropped as there was no proof of any of what they were hoping they would find.
Unfortunately, it will be hard for the business owner to defend herself or maybe she will not even try. Once the cities pull the business license, and have to appear at a local hearing, there is no way they will open again. They need an attorney or firm that will help them fight it and not just for them but for all the other stores that will be falsely accused and labeled after this. From what I know, this is the least of the businesses that would even remotely be considered illicit. The MO AGs keep shooting but they are missing the targets. The do not seem interested in closing the bad businesses, just any of them with the hopes that they all fall.
I hope this store is willing and able to fight to stay open or if not, the others take note and lawyer up.
Tony9 I agree about the details but in this case it does not matter what was said on this forum. If you do searching you will see massage and massage with DIY about this place. The sting was to pull over guests that were not even able to get a massage that day and feed them lines that would allow them to drive away without charges. That is local and state government overreach. Leave these business owners alone. There are bigger problems to solve. I always thought the GOP was about LESS government no MORE.
Sorry Rick (this will never be made legal in MO).
The 3 police reports within the PD article.
https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/crestwood-massage-parlor-a-prostitution-hub-lawsuit-alleges/article_11fa6937-7a9c-572a-a088-de40a188d8ee.html
Options?
Stop making "detailed" postings on the open forum for everyone to read. Be careful who you share with.
"We" live in Missouri. One of the most conservative, Christian, Republican States in the country. This story makes great click bait and water cooler gossip.
I can see shutting places down that could be forcing women to do things against their will but the government should be smarter and make it legal and tax it. Think about how much money doesn't get reported as income by either the store or the masseuse. Make it legal and regulate it.It would be nice but they won't do it. Probably for the better I'm sure the wage for the girls would be low as shit 15 or 20 an hour bs anyway. They'd be working that job plus hustling on the side so they'd be doing like 20 dicks a day or something crazy LOL.
YoungSkeez77
06-09-21, 06:11
For what it's worth, I went to Royal probably 10 times total in 2018 and 19 and never got a HE.
BoilerWelder
06-09-21, 09:32
I can see shutting places down that could be forcing women to do things against their will but the government should be smarter and make it legal and tax it. Think about how much money doesn't get reported as income by either the store or the masseuse. Make it legal and regulate it.They're doing it because they can make a hell of a lot more money at that than they can making phones and shoes over there. People are just too stupid to realize that.
It would be nice but they won't do it. Probably for the better I'm sure the wage for the girls would be low as shit 15 or 20 an hour bs anyway. They'd be working that job plus hustling on the side so they'd be doing like 20 dicks a day or something crazy LOL.Would actually be the opposite because it would be highly regulated, similar to legal weed dispensaries. You know exactly what you're getting, it's guaranteed high quality service, the workers are paid and have health insurance. But you're paying way more for it than you are for a baggy from Carlos on the corner.
Did my almost annual stupidity and stopped by Jasmine. My butt go well rubbed. I rubbed OTC an OK Asian butt and was offered plenty of oil for DIY. Don't ask me why I tried. I have had 1 HJ in 4 visits over several years. The first 10 minutes were interrupted by phone calls, texts, and the door. I think three girls were working. They were stacking up appointments. No more for me.
One new thing. When I was done, my balls got powdered. I don't think anyone has powdered my privates since I was three. Glad I got rid of it before the SO saw it.
Slimpicker
06-09-21, 15:01
My experience at Centerville AMPs has always been great, similar to yours! I have never regretted going there!I've never regretted going there either but I had a weird one right before covid. Saw a girl there I've seen several times and I could 'explore' anywhere I wanted in the past while getting my 'massage'.
Anyway, this time she said no one allowed to use fingers.
The Yumi you saw Oldcedar, sounds like she'd be fun.
When I was done, my balls got powdered. LOL! Who on earth wants their balls powdered?? Maybe that's all the rage overseas.
Paid a visit to Lilia today after not having seen her for a long time. Absolutely amazing visit. First, she is just as gorgeous -- if not more so -- from when I saw her years back. Her body is spectacular. Conversation with her is very easy and she is quite charming. I was a little sore so asked for a firm massage which was very, very good. Standard finish though upgrades are available. Her info is easy to find on rub ratings. She's been around a while so I probably don't need to go on too long about her. But she's back after a bit of a hiatus and dare I say better than ever.
DD.
I've been looking to get back into local mongering and was thinking of visiting here just to take one for the team and give a report, but it seems you've done that for us -- thanks!
Did my almost annual stupidity and stopped by Jasmine. My butt go well rubbed. I rubbed OTC an OK Asian butt and was offered plenty of oil for DIY. Don't ask me why I tried. I have had 1 HJ in 4 visits over several years. The first 10 minutes were interrupted by phone calls, texts, and the door. I think three girls were working. They were stacking up appointments. No more for me.
One new thing. When I was done, my balls got powdered. I don't think anyone has powdered my privates since I was three. Glad I got rid of it before the SO saw it.
Bill Bradsky
06-10-21, 16:05
Looks like they are really interested in shutting these places down, and are using sites like this one, and rub ratings to gather info.
https://www.kmov.com/news/missouri-attorney-general-sues-crestwood-spa-accused-of-human-trafficking/article_1b52ed68-c868-11eb-afae-232428d1bb4c.html?block_id=990844The MO Attorney General's "Hope Initiative" is really about the hope that he gets elected to the US Senate in 2022. He is making these baseless claims against Asian businesses to garner attention as tough on crime, even though he has yet to find any actual proof of a crime. He needs to go back to law school and study the section on hearsay evidence. Clearly an abuse of power for political gain.
BoilerWelder
06-10-21, 21:59
The MO Attorney General's "Hope Initiative" is really about the hope that he gets elected to the US Senate in 2022. He is making these baseless claims against Asian businesses to garner attention as tough on crime, even though he has yet to find any actual proof of a crime. He needs to go back to law school and study the section on hearsay evidence. Clearly an abuse of power for political gain.He's smart enough to realize that. It's about pandering to the sheeple so he can climb the ladder, not what's based on fact or even provable. Morality and common sense have nothing to do with it.
I had already texted her politely asking since she mentioned other fetish stuff in her ad, if she had the bondage gear. All she did was get upset and kept saying call her to make an appointment. I mean all I wanted was a yes or no answer. That plus past reviews, not sure I want to take a flyer to see.I have seen Miss Abbey James few times. She is gorgeous / beautiful lady. She has handcuffs, cat o nine tails whip and few other things. Do not know if she has ropes / other restrains. Will ask next time I visit her.
Believe she is open to get some fetish gears if there is interest.
I actually do like getting my balls powdered. It makes your balls silky and smooth the opposite of a sweaty leathery prickly cactus set of balls with no itch. I've been baby powdering my balls for about 15 years. Women do appreciate it more. Women don't want to suck on a sweaty prickly cactus set of balls or a set of sweaty fur burger balls that act like a sponge absorbing all the rankness that festers in the crotch. Furthermore grooming leaves your balls more sensitive for maximum pleasure.
LOL! Who on earth wants their balls powdered?? Maybe that's all the rage overseas.
I'm driving up to Chicago end of July early August. Does anyone have any recommendations of any worthwhile AMP's? I've had some pretty good road trips to Colorado and Florida. Multiple stops on my way there and back as well as my vacation destinations. Took a lot of research but figured I'd ask for some recommendations ahead of time. I'm looking for AMPs with hot young 20-30 yr old Asians experiences. Over and above the std. HJ finish. Like Nuru, FS, BBBJ with all the bells and whistles. Any info. Is very much appreciated. Thank you in advance!
Hamster4072
06-11-21, 17:45
This is just reminder. The Missouri AG is on the rampage. He wants to close down all AMPs in Missouri. Be careful, they will try to force you say things so you won't be charged. I think I will stick with the Illinois side for now, it might be a lot safer! With all of the problems we have, they are focused on this.
Hamster4072
06-11-21, 19:22
https://www.kmov.com/news/missouri-attorney-general-sues-crestwood-spa-accused-of-human-trafficking/article_1b52ed68-c868-11eb-afae-232428d1bb4c.html
NikeSportsMan
06-12-21, 08:19
I'm driving up to Chicago end of July early August. Does anyone have any recommendations of any worthwhile AMP's? I've had some pretty good road trips to Colorado and Florida. Multiple stops on my way there and back as well as my vacation destinations. Took a lot of research but figured I'd ask for some recommendations ahead of time. I'm looking for AMPs with hot young 20-30 yr old Asians experiences. Over and above the std. HJ finish. Like Nuru, FS, BBBJ with all the bells and whistles. Any info. Is very much appreciated. Thank you in advance!You're going to see how much better it is up there. I go up there for big Asian tits. There is one lady up there with massive ones, above the DD mark. There's a few more I see as well. I go for tits though.
I'm driving up to Chicago end of July early August. Does anyone have any recommendations of any worthwhile AMP's? I've had some pretty good road trips to Colorado and Florida. Multiple stops on my way there and back as well as my vacation destinations. Took a lot of research but figured I'd ask for some recommendations ahead of time. I'm looking for AMPs with hot young 20-30 yr old Asians experiences. Over and above the std. HJ finish. Like Nuru, FS, BBBJ with all the bells and whistles. Any info. Is very much appreciated. Thank you in advance!Go the Chicago page and the thread of Asian Apartment Girls. Red Lantern is a pretty reliable bet.
Bill Bradsky
06-13-21, 10:48
I'm driving up to Chicago end of July early August. Does anyone have any recommendations of any worthwhile AMP's? I've had some pretty good road trips to Colorado and Florida. Multiple stops on my way there and back as well as my vacation destinations. Took a lot of research but figured I'd ask for some recommendations ahead of time. I'm looking for AMPs with hot young 20-30 yr old Asians experiences. Over and above the std. HJ finish. Like Nuru, FS, BBBJ with all the bells and whistles. Any info. Is very much appreciated. Thank you in advance!I highly recommend the NW suburbs, Mt. Prospect, Arlington Heights, BG area.
Tokyo was masks in the hallway only. I and the lady both had our shots.
I'm driving up to Chicago end of July early August. Does anyone have any recommendations of any worthwhile AMP's? I've had some pretty good road trips to Colorado and Florida. Multiple stops on my way there and back as well as my vacation destinations. Took a lot of research but figured I'd ask for some recommendations ahead of time. I'm looking for AMPs with hot young 20-30 yr old Asians experiences. Over and above the std. HJ finish. Like Nuru, FS, BBBJ with all the bells and whistles. Any info. Is very much appreciated. Thank you in advance!
No experience with the Chicago area AMPs, but the in-call community is pretty decent (which means it's waaaaayyyyy better than St. Louis). Some in the burbs, but also a few apartments just east of O'Hare with girls that rotate through.
Tried to meet up with Kellee on Friday. I have seen her 3 times before. Texted at 2 p for an early evening appt. And she said she had a 6 p opening. I said I would take it. Time goes by with no confirmation. I tried texting a couple of time to confirm and called, but phone went straight to voice-mail. Take it for what it's worth, but scheduling with these girls is just becoming a PITA.
Good luck out there.
JCM.
Things did not work out on my regulars so visited fuji and met joy. She has a natural rack if any of you remembers mimi then you know what I mean. She is older than mimi probly middle age and average to below average face but her rack made up for it and they are responsive to boot. She said she's only been in town for a week so not sure how long she will be here.
DoorGunner69
06-14-21, 09:51
No experience with the Chicago area AMPs, but the in-call community is pretty decent (which means it's waaaaayyyyy better than St. Louis). Some in the burbs, but also a few apartments just east of O'Hare with girls that rotate through.Try Ivy massage out in Lombard off of Roosevelt rd.
I had already texted her politely asking since she mentioned other fetish stuff in her ad, if she had the bondage gear. All she did was get upset and kept saying call her to make an appointment. I mean all I wanted was a yes or no answer. That plus past reviews, not sure I want to take a flyer to see.I saw her last month for fetish, she is on my "will repeat" list. If you are looking for extreme play or stereotypical bdsm stuff, probably not the droid you seek.
NikeSportsMan
06-14-21, 18:10
Things did not work out on my regulars so visited fuji and met joy. She has a natural rack if any of you remembers mimi then you know what I mean. She is older than mimi probly middle age and average to below average face but her rack made up for it and they are responsive to boot. She said she's only been in town for a week so not sure how long she will be here.How big are we talking here? Bigger than Mimi?
Visited Jasmine after a long time thinking about the time I used to spend with Lisa.
Called in and had just one girl working. Had a lame rub for 5 min and during the turn over it was nothing great.
Had access to everything but lack of interest from her part killed it for me.
Might try again after 6 months to see if things change. Sad to see one of my old favorites die like this.
Member #7333
06-15-21, 19:35
I just don't get the allure Kellee had one of the worst bodies I've ever seen naked I couldn't even touch it with my eyes closed, now I know you mongers are going to refute that I'm not sure how, but for me if I am spending my hard earned money it cannot look like her or her friend Brittany again I don't get it guys why especially when they are not reliable.
Tried to meet up with Kellee on Friday. I have seen her 3 times before. Texted at 2 p for an early evening appt. And she said she had a 6 p opening. I said I would take it. Time goes by with no confirmation. I tried texting a couple of time to confirm and called, but phone went straight to voice-mail. Take it for what it's worth, but scheduling with these girls is just becoming a PITA.
Good luck out there.
I just don't get the allure her she had one of the worst bodies I've ever seen naked i couldn't even touch it with my eyes closed, now i know you mongers are gonna refute that I'm not sure how, but for me if I am spending my hard earned money it cannot look like her or her friend Brittany again I don't get it guys why especially when they are not reliable
JCM.
Stopped in at Fuji yesterday. I typically visit Osaka but they had 2 or 3 cars in lot and Fuji looked empty. Went in and asked for lineup. Older lady she bring me prettiest girl. I said I want to see a lineup. A 40 something lady came out and said I take you. I said I want to see all available. Finally ended up choosing Lee out if group of 3. We go in room and I gave her $60 for an hour expecting to negotiate extras when she returned. She said 1 hour minimum $200. I said what? I said I'd give another $100 for tip and she said $200 minimum. I said no go and she relented. Said bring $200 next time. Massage was terrible with no tease. After 10 minutes told me to flip and started a CBJ. Very lackluster. After a couple minutes told me to get on top. Not enjoyable at all. A lot of fake moaning. Had her finish me with a HJ. Ugh. Will not be back.
OldCarGuy69
06-16-21, 11:30
I just don't get the allure Kellee had one of the worst bodies I've ever seen naked I couldn't even touch it with my eyes closed, now I know you mongers are going to refute that I'm not sure how, but for me if I am spending my hard earned money it cannot look like her or her friend Brittany again I don't get it guys why especially when they are not reliable.I haven't seen either one in years but they used to give a good, sloppy, wet blowjob and Britt would swallow. I get the impression that may no longer be the case.
I haven't seen either one in years but they used to give a good, sloppy, wet blowjob and Britt would swallow. I get the impression that may no longer be the case.Both bbw got hitched last year so that's probably why service has changed. Looks like Stacy is making a comeback.
Both bbw got hitched last year so that's probably why service has changed. Looks like Stacy is making a comeback.Her rolls are just arriving from 3 years ago.
Both bbw got hitched last year so that's probably why service has changed. Looks like Stacy is making a comeback.Does Stacy give bjs?
How big are we talking here? Bigger than Mimi?Been awhile since I seen mimi but I think a little smaller than mimi, joy probably had d size either way enjoyed myself.
Hey folks, any recommendations for AMPs or ladies in the edwardsville IL area.
EssentialGuy
06-18-21, 17:21
I just got back from a trip out west. I stopped by a little spot called the Tea Spa thanks to a heads up in the Lawrance / KC forum.
Saw a girl with big ole tittys named Annie or Anna. She gave a decent massage and then half way through started working the legs, all three if ya know what I mean. She asked what I would like and I said to titty fuck. She disappeared and then came back with a rubber and put it on me, got naked and started sucking me off. It felt great but I was just looking for a quick titty fuck and be on my way. I explained again that I just wanted to stick my dick between the boobs and was wondering why the condom. She understood and pulled it off then got to titty fucking. Me on my back then me on top. She was supper nice, gave a decent massage and had some nice double d's.
So on my way back to STL I found it laughable that the AG was trying to shut down AMPs in STL for prostitution. I have never gotten more then a titty fuck 2 times in stl. Most of the times it's diy or an assist from the ladies, if lucky and nothing close to full service that Anne was about to give me or the stuff offered on the east side. AMP see East and West of MO.
Anyhow, if Passing through Lawrence Kansas be sure to stop by there and you won't be disappointed.
What does it take to get senior member status on this board?.
I just got back from a trip out west. I stopped by a little spot called the Tea Spa thanks to a heads up in the Lawrance / KC forum.
Saw a girl with big ole tittys named Annie or Anna. She gave a decent massage and then half way through started working the legs, all three if ya know what I mean. She asked what I would like and I said to titty fuck. She disappeared and then came back with a rubber and put it on me, got naked and started sucking me off. It felt great but I was just looking for a quick titty fuck and be on my way. I explained again that I just wanted to stick my dick between the boobs and was wondering why the condom. She understood and pulled it off then got to titty fucking. Me on my back then me on top. She was supper nice, gave a decent massage and had some nice double d's.
So on my way back to STL I found it laughable that the AG was trying to shut down AMPs in STL for prostitution. I have never gotten more then a titty fuck 2 times in stl. Most of the times it's diy or an assist from the ladies, if lucky and nothing close to full service that Anne was about to give me or the stuff offered on the east side. AMP see East and West of MO.
Anyhow, if Passing through Lawrence Kansas be sure to stop by there and you won't be disappointed.
What does it take to get senior member status on this board?.How much was everything?
OldCarGuy69
06-19-21, 08:21
Does Stacy give bjs?Nope; but I once tipped her an extra $50 for a facial.
OldCarGuy69
06-19-21, 08:24
Both bbw got hitched last year so that's probably why service has changed. Looks like Stacy is making a comeback.LOL, they were both married back then too!
What does it take to get senior member status on this board?.From the FAQ.
How long does it take to become a Senior Member?
Regular Members are automatically upgraded to Senior Member when they have been a Forum Member for 6 months AND have posted 25 or more reports.
ScottFester
06-19-21, 10:57
I'm looking for recommendations between Elsa, Reanne, and Ziana from the Angel's. I have a very limited budget so I can't try everyone. I used to see Parker and Kylie from the Angel's so I prefer someone who provides bls, dt, and cim options. Who should I see?
EssentialGuy
06-19-21, 12:26
From the FAQ.
How long does it take to become a Senior Member?
Regular Members are automatically upgraded to Senior Member when they have been a Forum Member for 6 months AND have posted 25 or more reports.Thanks! My dumbass didn't even think of looking it up.
How much was everything?60 / hr house tip 120. I tried 80 but I think there was miscommunication between us. I have no problem giving a little extra to ladies that show a little enthusiasm or put forth effort to make you comfortable or happy.
Just blows my mind about Royal (Crestwood) getting called out by the AG, all I ever got there was DIY and on occasion was able to pull out a titty. Made me realize how conservative our AMPs are.
Hamster4072
06-19-21, 13:27
Royal Day Spa is still open, despite the AG's lawsuit & harassment! But I couldn't get myself to go in.
I went to a legitimate AMP for a 90 minute session to celebrate my birthday. The owner had expanded to have a lady to work with her. The owner was booked so I got the new lady, slim, early 30's, kept the mask on. Facedown a little playful, a descent massage, but not the hard massage I asked for. On the flip all light touch that got me standing at attention and she got more playful so I put my hand on her butt and she laughed. She teased more and I put her hand on my dick, my finger over my lips shhh. She laughed and I left happy and she got a big tip. Strictly UTR handjob, the owner would have her out of there.
The unexpected ones are the best.
I will go back and have her walk my back next time.
Senior members can message me.
I'm looking for recommendations between Elsa, Reanne, and Ziana from the Angel's. I have a very limited budget so I can't try everyone. I used to see Parker and Kylie from the Angel's so I prefer someone who provides bls, dt, and cim options. Who should I see?Ziana is like Parker, then Elsa, but Reanne is not a bad choice in that order for me. Ziana is a great submissive, that can take a good pounding to.
Thanks! My dumbass didn't even think of looking it up.
60 / hr house tip 120. I tried 80 but I think there was miscommunication between us. I have no problem giving a little extra to ladies that show a little enthusiasm or put forth effort to make you comfortable or happy.
Just blows my mind about Royal (Crestwood) getting called out by the AG, all I ever got there was DIY and on occasion was able to pull out a titty. Made me realize how conservative our AMPs are.Ok thanks. I really appreciate that. I give it a try when I'm out that way again.
Saw "Blue" at Osaka, and boy could she blow! Spinner, Korean mid to late 30's, pretty face, maybe 34 C's She didn't speak much English, but ooohed and ahhed over my cock size (which is average). If she's acting she deserves an award. Her enthusiasm was off the charts. Put the condom on with her mouth in ½ second, it was very thin and only covered the head. She sucked me like a jackhammer for 15+ minutes, deepthroating and licking the boys along the way. She was giggling too with my cock down her throat, a huge turn-on. I took some edibles before the encounter, and was fairly buzzed, but it made me last a long time. When I came, her moans were louder than mine. I would see her everyday if I could.
Member #6067
06-20-21, 13:26
Stopped by this am got line up 4 ladies got kay cute body just tested the water 40+60 HJ little teasing after duty resumed massage!
Coco was there I've read some about her not sure of others names.
Kay said 2 total next visit.
DATY.
BBBJ cfs.
W kissing and said 45 minutes I don't know about had nice body w nice mm's good English.
Might try repeat but was thinking can you go check them places all out! Or they know what you are doing.
HesDeadJim
06-20-21, 19:06
Names have changed so much I get confused.
Osaka was Pink's.
Fuji Super Spa was Tokyo Spa.
Belugio was Fuji Aroma Therapy.
Tokyo Oriental Spa was VIP.
If I messed something up correct me.
Stopped in at Fuji yesterday. I typically visit Osaka but they had 2 or 3 cars in lot and Fuji looked empty. Went in and asked for lineup. Older lady she bring me prettiest girl. I said I want to see a lineup. A 40 something lady came out and said I take you. I said I want to see all available. Finally ended up choosing Lee out if group of 3. We go in room and I gave her $60 for an hour expecting to negotiate extras when she returned. She said 1 hour minimum $200. I said what? I said I'd give another $100 for tip and she said $200 minimum. I said no go and she relented. Said bring $200 next time. Massage was terrible with no tease. After 10 minutes told me to flip and started a CBJ. Very lackluster. After a couple minutes told me to get on top. Not enjoyable at all. A lot of fake moaning. Had her finish me with a HJ. Ugh. Will not be back.I had a similar experience there a month or so ago. I was rushed by on older lady who gave a very poor massage. Her hands felt like sandpaper on my back. Very quick to the flip with a rushed blow job. I went to Tokyo Spa a couple of days ago and was pleasantly surprised. Three attractive ladies in their late twenties or ealy thirties were available. I chose Lumi (sp?) who was very enthusiastic, gave a fantastic massage and was very talented with the extras. I will definitely be going back soon. Hope this helps.
I think your Lumi might be the Yumi that I posted about a while back. I have never done FS at Centreville, but I considered it when she worked her way up my back, kissed my ear, and moaned in my ear.
Member #6045
06-21-21, 23:50
I am travelling though St Louis this week and found the Angels site. Got in touch with Kiyah. Since I am staying downtown and do not have a vehicle I had to uber to her house. Pros: Very good conversation and very polite. Quick to respond and set up an appointment. Decently attractive and great rack. Cons: Got to her house and she was about 15 minutes late. She did tell me after I had already got into the uber. Once we got started the massage was very sub par, more of a light rub with very little body interaction. I was expecting a better massage and body to body rubbing as advertised. Finshed up the hour with a quick HJ and that was the end. Again, she was very nice, polite, and had great conversation skills but I do not think I will repeat as I was hoping for a little more and only here for the week. Any advice on who to contact in the area would be greatly appreciated. Feel free to PM me if you have any contacts you recommend. Happy Hunting.
Stopped by this am got line up 4 ladies got kay cute body just tested the water 40+60 HJ little teasing after duty resumed massage!
Coco was there I've read some about her not sure of others names.
Kay said 2 total next visit.
DATY.
BBBJ cfs.
W kissing and said 45 minutes I don't know about had nice body w nice mm's good English.
Might try repeat but was thinking can you go check them places all out! Or they know what you are doing.Seriously dude. Do you ever proof your posts before posting? Are you typically stoned when typing?! No, we're not here to be grammar police (yes, guess that's what I'm doing in this instance) but geez.
Spa 'Formerly Known As' Cha is born again as Peaceful Garden.
https://peacefulgardenmassage.com/
I called and it appears to be new ownership.
We need an up to date report. GO!
GroveGuy91
06-22-21, 15:54
This is my first review, thank you all for the great info.
Was reading about Lee's last week and decided to visit. Lee's tease was as advertised and was absolutely amazing with a DIY finish.
I went back today and the tease was even better. In the middle of the massage, she went and grabbed a plastic glove and gave me an amazing prostate massage. She had me on my hands and knees on the table doing that while rubbing the boys as well. It was an incredible experience and I'm excited to repeat.
RicharddAngle
06-22-21, 17:03
There's been some chatter about her in recent weeks but no definitive reviews so I went in blind. And (for the most part) glad I did. Let's get the logistics out of the way;.
$. 2 for the standard angels rub and tug.
$2. 2 for a BBBJ (steep, but more on this later).
$3. 5 for FS. Can't say more. Didn't partake.
If the thought of paying these rates offends you, proceed to the stupid shit section and air your grievances to another audience. I understand they're beyond standard prices for this level of service and, in the past, better options were available at better rates. But this is where we are, so here's my take:
She's a total classic bombshell. Blond, very pretty, and curvy / hourglass figure that's just fun to watch work. And better yet, she's enthusiastic (or feigns enthusiasm) to boot. I'm always worried that when I shell out so much extra for a BJ, I'll be disappointed. This was not the case. Eye contact, bls, dt effort and CIM taken like a fiend. In case it's not obvious, I'll be making a return trip.
I'm going to go pack my lunches for the rest of the week to save up a little dough for a repeat next week.
Hope this is helpful.So the $1. 2 was for the half hour, right? So the BBBJ upgrade made it $2. 2 for the 1/2 hour? Just want to make sure my math is correct. Reanne's 1/2 hr for $1. 20 includes it, but the girls have their own upgrade pricing structure.
HolyStone1975
06-22-21, 19:32
Have they posted anything on snapchat this week? I haven't seen anything in a bit.
YoungSkeez77
06-22-21, 21:08
There's been some chatter about her in recent weeks but no definitive reviews so I went in blind. And (for the most part) glad I did. Let's get the logistics out of the way;.
$. 2 for the standard angels rub and tug.
$2. 2 for a BBBJ (steep, but more on this later).
$3. 5 for FS. Can't say more. Didn't partake.
If the thought of paying these rates offends you, proceed to the stupid shit section and air your grievances to another audience. I understand they're beyond standard prices for this level of service and, in the past, better options were available at better rates. But this is where we are, so here's my take:
She's a total classic bombshell. Blond, very pretty, and curvy / hourglass figure that's just fun to watch work. And better yet, she's enthusiastic (or feigns enthusiasm) to boot. I'm always worried that when I shell out so much extra for a BJ, I'll be disappointed. This was not the case. Eye contact, bls, dt effort and CIM taken like a fiend. In case it's not obvious, I'll be making a return trip.
I'm going to go pack my lunches for the rest of the week to save up a little dough for a repeat next week.
Hope this is helpful.Thanks for the review. And I don't know of any girls that I consider hot in STL right now for less than 300/ hr so 350/ hr for what you described and her looks is not bad.
ChrisHansen92
06-22-21, 21:22
Please share the SC link sir. Thank you.
Have they posted anything on snapchat this week? I haven't seen anything in a bit.
I'm looking for Elsa's OF page. Can anyone point me in the right direction, please?
Please share the SC link sir. Thank you.You have to be a repeat customer to be added to their Snapchat. If you you've seen an angel a couple of times, just ask. They'll add you.
HolyStone1975
06-23-21, 15:00
I'm looking for Elsa's OF page. Can anyone point me in the right direction, please?She doesn't have an active one anymore. She used to have a free and paid one but took the paid one down a while back. The free one she hasn't updated in over a month I think. She is another in a long line of providers who tried the OF / webcamming thing only to discover it actually takes work every day to keep people interested. She also never really showed anything but her boobs. She would be naked but almost always positioned in a way you never saw the goods and people started calling her out on it.
HolyStone1975
06-23-21, 15:01
You have to be a repeat customer to be added to their Snapchat. If you you've seen an angel a couple of times, just ask. They'll add you.As far as I know they won't accept incoming requests to the Snapchat, they have to add you.
Stlconnoisseur
06-24-21, 08:57
Anyone have a recommendation for standard bodyrub / massage in the Chesterfield area?
She doesn't have an active one anymore. She used to have a free and paid one but took the paid one down a while back. The free one she hasn't updated in over a month I think. She is another in a long line of providers who tried the OF / webcamming thing only to discover it actually takes work every day to keep people interested. She also never really showed anything but her boobs. She would be naked but almost always positioned in a way you never saw the goods and people started calling her out on it.Would you mind sharing the name of the free OF, please? DM is cool if you prefer. Thanks!
Rubs Are Fun
06-24-21, 13:41
I've recently been in contact with Sharon, and she asked me to let her prior clients know that she is doing massages again on a limited basis. Sorry, she is not interested in taking on any new clients, but if you have already seen her and want to schedule an appointment, she is available. Covid really hurt her business so she could use some bookings. I plan on seeing her next week.
Rubs Are Fun.
Rubs Are Fun
06-24-21, 13:52
What do they charge for a half hour at Lee's Kimjoe?
Thanks!
I've recently been in contact with Sharon, and she asked me to let her prior clients know that she is doing massages again on a limited basis. Sorry, she is not interested in taking on any new clients, but if you have already seen her and want to schedule an appointment, she is available. Covid really hurt her business so she could use some bookings. I plan on seeing her next week.
Rubs Are Fun.I've seen her a few times lately. She is a nice person. Maybe.
Not the best looking but not bad either. She always gave me.
A nice release sometimes tried for 2.
But I'm old and one good one is.
All I usually can master. I'll try and get back.
And help support her. Thanks for the update!
It's been a couple of years, but Tammy's incall location was in Chesterfield when I visited her back in the day.
I think Massage Envy on Clarkson has extras.
GroveGuy91
06-25-21, 11:37
It's been a couple of years, but Tammy's incall location was in Chesterfield when I visited her back in the day.
I think Massage Envy on Clarkson has extras.Who did you have at massage envy that provided extras?
I always have a good time with Scarlett. Probably seen her 5-10 times now. After row after row of tales of getting ghosted, no call backs, and jacked up prices, I like knowing that 11:00 is going to be 11:00 and my car will be safe out front. There is a reason she has a stack of good reviews.
She showed off her new hair colors (pink, yellow, blue) and lost her dress. A delightful rub and then on to a great finish. She is very playful. Talk about what you would like, it might happen.
Her COVID screening is still up and even though I see her maybe once a month, I always fill it out. Don't be a jerk. You answer some questions and you get the gold key to a great time. I am totally OK with her precautions. She leaves plenty of time between appointments for cleaning up, sanitizing, and fresh linens. She was a YGND / PL girl once upon a time. She does not miss only having 5 minutes to get ready for the next guy.
Everything you need is on the website. https://sensualscarlett.com.
HentaiNerd
06-25-21, 14:10
I had a dream I went to Osaka, luckily it wasn't as busy as people have experienced in the past.
Fantastic stuff, I met blue and she was as great as everyone says she is. Only booked 30 minutes, which is more than enough. I will say if you're a larger dude, your experience likely won't be as mind blowing. You'll need to keep your own gloves and you won't be getting a more complete experience. $.4 CBJ, but because I won't be able to upgrade to CFS, I'll likely try for $ and get a standard rub.
Blue was slim, smells great, super soft, bolt ons look nice, I'm hoping everyone is as gorgeous and kind as her.
I used to see Sarah at Fuji but now she's on vacation and no one knows when she'll be back. Who of all the Centerville AMPs offers service like her TUMA and BBBJ?
Who did you have at massage envy that provided extras?My bad I thought there was an AMP on Clarkson Road, looked into it and turns out it was NOT Massage Envy.
SamuelAdams
06-26-21, 14:11
My bad I thought there was an AMP on Clarkson Road, looked into it and turns out it was NOT Massage Envy.Which place you were talking about on clarkson road?
Spa 'Formerly Known As' Cha is born again as Peaceful Garden.
https://peacefulgardenmassage.com/
I called and it appears to be new ownership.
We need an up to date report. GO!Too scared to go there. It was on the news. Cha was, I mean.
Well this was. An experience. Paid for half hour, striped down. She comes in, motions for me to get up and move into another room. I'm covered but I go through the front waiting area with the window to come to a new room. It was weird. She apologized and said the other girl there is sleeping and she is nosey.
Lee skips massage, has me get on all fours and teases cock and anus. She gently gave me one pump every so often. Felt really good.
On flip. She instantly killed my boner. She started completing my size and said that's because my DAD is also big. She started asking me if I knew if my dad was big. How big is my dad? Then she started telling me she sees "little boys" who must have "little dad's".
Literally nothing is happening at this point and I'm just deflating. Then she slaps my thigh and DIY began. She helped with balls but by this point I was so turned off I had to dig deep in my imagination to finish. THEN she wipes my semen covered cock down and proceeds to wipe my body down with the SAME tissue. So now I have cum all over me.
She apologized again for the room situation and told me no tip. So it was the flat rate. After I gave her the money she told me to run away.
Tried this place upon recommendation. It was super weird.
Lee has me strip down in a room. Keeps me waiting for fifteen minutes. Then comes in and has me move to another room. I'm covering myself up and she's walking me thru the FRONT with the window. Get into next room, she apologises. Said someone (daughter?) was close by other room and is nosey. So she skips the massage and has me get right up on all fours. Teasing with one pump every few minutes. On flip, she compliments my size. Great. Until she kept asking about my DAD. She said I'm big because he must be big. "Is he big? Is he big? Do you know?" Then she says the other men she's sees are "little who must have little dads. " Then she talked about her dad / how her brother is probably big because she remembers seeing her dad when she was young.
So by this point as we approach DIY, I'm completely flat. Turned off. She notices and slaps my thigh. I try my best and managed to finish with little asisstance. She cleans me up and proceeds to use the same CUM TOWEL all over my body for a wipe down.
Tl'dr, don't go here.
https://stlouis.rubratings.com/175557
Can anyone advise if FS is available on this nice looking girl?
PM if you like.
HesDeadJim
06-28-21, 11:04
Short report:
Late night. Apparently table shower is not an option after 10 pm or so. Osaka is the place that used to be called Pink's. (owned by Pink). Greeted at the door by Blue (seriously, Blue working for Pink had me wondering if I was in a Quentin Tarantino film). The usual story for this group of parlors in Centerville; She's nice, ok looking, probably in the 40's, bolt-on D or E cups, slim.
1. 8 for "everything" (that's how she puts it). CBJ, CG, RCG. Finished up DIY (I can last forever with a condom on) while she massaged my balls and fingered my ass (without hurting me). Cleaned us up and was just generally a very pleasant person after. At no point was rushing, then again I'm pretty sure I was the only guy late that evening.
On a side note I've been going to the group of Centerville parlors on and off for over 15 years. The prices haven't changed yet, I don't feel the need to haggle. The women are legit (no trafficking). They are. If anything. One of the few dependable resources in this hobby in this area. Sure the location sucks for anyone out in west St Louis or beyond. And yes, I've had a couple "less-than-stellar" experiences. But I have NEVER been ripped off, ghosted (how could they? Lied to, bait-and-upselled, etc, etc. Sure the majority aren't in their 20's but I liken the $ amounts to that of a convenience store; You're paying the little extra to not have to deal with all that other shit.
Which place you were talking about on clarkson road?Two visits since newly opened. Totally legit place. No teasing, no hint of anything extra. Fully draped. New owner's young child or grandchild was hanging out up front.
The massages were very nice, however. If you're looking for strictly therapeutic, this might be the place for you.
DeadDead22
06-28-21, 14:12
Short report:
Late night. Apparently table shower is not an option after 10 pm or so. Osaka is the place that used to be called Pink's. (owned by Pink). Greeted at the door by Blue (seriously, Blue working for Pink had me wondering if I was in a Quentin Tarantino film). The usual story for this group of parlors in Centerville; She's nice, ok looking, probably in the 40's, bolt-on D or E cups, slim.
1. 8 for "everything" (that's how she puts it). CBJ, CG, RCG. Finished up DIY (I can last forever with a condom on) while she massaged my balls and fingered my ass (without hurting me). Cleaned us up and was just generally a very pleasant person after. At no point was rushing, then again I'm pretty sure I was the only guy late that evening.
On a side note I've been going to the group of Centerville parlors on and off for over 15 years. The prices haven't changed yet, I don't feel the need to haggle. The women are legit (no trafficking). They are. If anything. One of the few dependable resources in this hobby in this area. Sure the location sucks for anyone out in west St Louis or beyond. And yes, I've had a couple "less-than-stellar" experiences. But I have NEVER been ripped off, ghosted (how could they? Lied to, bait-and-upselled, etc, etc. Sure the majority aren't in their 20's but I liken the $ amounts to that of a convenience store; You're paying the little extra to not have to deal with all that other shit.Blue is in the top 10 AMP fucks of all time. And I've been to a few in my day. She's friendly, enthusiastic, and has a great body. I am most definitely in lust with that woman!
I have seen her several times. Very nice and accommodating. Safe and clean office location near Page. She has options for nude and non nude as well as an option to massage her. Hands can roam. I'd say the price is a bit high, but it's nice to go a clean professional setting where you know you're safe. If you'd like to know anything else PM me.Any intel on Sam, seen a few months ago. All media taken down, got SD or BF?
I wonder if Elaine is there at the former Cha.
Spa 'Formerly Known As' Cha is born again as Peaceful Garden.
https://peacefulgardenmassage.com/
I called and it appears to be new ownership.
We need an up to date report. GO!
Any intel on Sam, seen a few months ago. All media taken down, got SD or BF?Looking for Sam in Chesterfield also. PM me is okay.
B.
Bill Bradsky
06-29-21, 08:55
I wonder if Elaine is there at the former Cha.No, new owner and new staff. About like Massage Envy now.
Blue is in the top 10 AMP fucks of all time. And I've been to a few in my day. She's friendly, enthusiastic, and has a great body. I am most definitely in lust with that woman!I asked for Blue based on comments here. But, my experience was mediocre at best. I requested an hour and her massage was going well for about 5 minutes when she was called out of the room and another lady came in to replace her. After about half an hour Blue returned to finish he hour. I can only assume she was called out to service another customer as I heard someone ask for her right after she started. She then returned but the mood was killed. She had me flip and started with a decent CBJ and proceeded to CG for about a minute and she was tired. We switched up to mish and after a couple minute started complaining and asking me to hurry and she was hurting. Changed up to doggies with her continuing to complain. So she wanted to finish with a HJ which was disappointing but I went with it. Then her arms were getting tired and she wanted me to finish myself and I said no. So she just finished the next few minutes massaging my back. I wish I could say I was hung like a horse which was causing her discomfort--NOT THE CASE. I am average size. Overall my most disappointing Centerville AMP visit in years. I hope anyone's future visits have better results.
Any intel on Sam, seen a few months ago. All media taken down, got SD or BF?I used to see Sam, too. Disappointing that she hasn't been posting. I know she had a daughter growing up, and lived quite a ways from her studio where she saw clients, so, maybe that's part of it. She did give a decent massage and HE, even talked her into a BBBJ on a couple occasions, while in 69 position. I'll keep looking for her too. No answer at her cell #.
LifeIsAGamble
06-30-21, 11:28
https://stlouis.rubratings.com/232468
https://stlouis.rubratings.com/232477
Any one see either of these ladies? Look to good to be true. My experience usually means they are not true.
Has anyone had any experience with the lady advertising on rubratings from Union, Missouri. She looks good, but asking $200 for rub and $250 for nude. Kind of pricey, but looks intriguing.
Hi. Relatively inexperienced in STL. What are some other massage provider sites besides Angels Touch? Are they any better? Thanks.
Lovethatbob
06-30-21, 17:10
https://stlouis.rubratings.com/232468
https://stlouis.rubratings.com/232477
Any one see either of these ladies? Look to good to be true. My experience usually means they are not true.Both of those seem to have disappeared from the St. Louis listing on Rub Ratings.
LTB.
Tried this place upon recommendation. It was super weird.
Lee has me strip down in a room. Keeps me waiting for fifteen minutes. Then comes in and has me move to another room. I'm covering myself up and she's walking me thru the FRONT with the window. Get into next room, she apologises. Said someone (daughter?) was close by other room and is nosey. So she skips the massage and has me get right up on all fours. Teasing with one pump every few minutes. On flip, she compliments my size. Great. Until she kept asking about my DAD. She said I'm big because he must be big. "Is he big? Is he big? Do you know?" Then she says the other men she's sees are "little who must have little dads. " Then she talked about her dad / how her brother is probably big because she remembers seeing her dad when she was young.
So by this point as we approach DIY, I'm completely flat. Turned off. She notices and slaps my thigh. I try my best and managed to finish with little asisstance. She cleans me up and proceeds to use the same CUM TOWEL all over my body for a wipe down.
Tl'dr, don't go here.Yeah, she's weird. Was my go-to several years ago. One time I went and she had a really good looking black girl working and it was unbelievable. Like, still high up in my spank bank. She was gone a week later. . ANYWAY, Lee had a stroke a couple or so years ago and things there got a little weird. No more staff, just her. And her husband who likes to sit right outside the door coughing loudly or laughing at the TV. The tease has always been good, but always DIY and almost every time, some weird ass thing, like you described, that makes you promise yourself you'll never go back.
I went to a legitimate AMP for a 90 minute session to celebrate my birthday. The owner had expanded to have a lady to work with her. The owner was booked so I got the new lady, slim, early 30's, kept the mask on. Facedown a little playful, a descent massage, but not the hard massage I asked for. On the flip all light touch that got me standing at attention and she got more playful so I put my hand on her butt and she laughed. She teased more and I put her hand on my dick, my finger over my lips shhh. She laughed and I left happy and she got a big tip. Strictly UTR handjob, the owner would have her out of there.
The unexpected ones are the best.
I will go back and have her walk my back next time.
Senior members can message me.Many new workers at Zen. I had a great massage last Saturday. The place was very busy. I advise calling to make sure they have an opening, YMMV.
Has anyone had any experience with the lady advertising on rubratings from Union, Missouri. She looks good, but asking $200 for rub and $250 for nude. Kind of pricey, but looks intriguing.Spidey senses mandar, could be wrong.
Yeah, she's weird. Was my go-to several years ago. One time I went and she had a really good looking black girl working and it was unbelievable. Like, still high up in my spank bank. She was gone a week later. . ANYWAY, Lee had a stroke a couple or so years ago and things there got a little weird. No more staff, just her. And her husband who likes to sit right outside the door coughing loudly or laughing at the TV. The tease has always been good, but always DIY and almost every time, some weird ass thing, like you described, that makes you promise yourself you'll never go back.What's the expected tip for her, even though it's diy?
Dlister426
07-02-21, 08:21
What's the expected tip for her, even though it's diy?I always paid $100 total.
Splatter34
07-02-21, 11:01
Ten years ago, I was a regular at Massage Envy for about a year. I always wore tighty-whitey briefs for the massage. After many AMP visits, I now wonder if I could have dropped them as well. I wouldn't expect a different massage. Just curious about other folks' experiences.
I always got an excellent massage there.
What's the expected tip for her, even though it's diy?In the past, I've done $80 total for 30, $100 total for hour and she seemed cool with it.
Ten years ago, I was a regular at Massage Envy for about a year. I always wore tighty-whitey briefs for the massage. After many AMP visits, I now wonder if I could have dropped them as well. I wouldn't expect a different massage. Just curious about other folks' experiences.
I always got an excellent massage there.At the very least you would get a much better ass massage. Not necessarily erotic but it feels good.
I always paid $100 total.Thanks.
When I called earlier there was a AA girl that answered the phone. Anybody seen her?
I had a similar experience there a month or so ago. I was rushed by on older lady who gave a very poor massage. Her hands felt like sandpaper on my back. Very quick to the flip with a rushed blow job. I went to Tokyo Spa a couple of days ago and was pleasantly surprised. Three attractive ladies in their late twenties or ealy thirties were available. I chose Lumi (sp?) who was very enthusiastic, gave a fantastic massage and was very talented with the extras. I will definitely be going back soon. Hope this helps.When do you ask for the line up. When you are in the waiting room or behind the first closed door?
I also want to say I am glad I found this place. I was an elite member of rtp. Politics aside the form was great for making connections. I used that site a lot. It kept me safe and I had a very good time. Then that law passed and poof rtp was gone. My connection slowly dwindled away. I am a little older but not dead. I am hoping to make some new connections.
StCharlesTool2
07-03-21, 09:21
I got the churning butter do you want HJ, the 3 finger how much will you pay me, and one finger to the lips do not tell the boss hand signs from Cici at CY Massage. Very easy.
HentaiNerd
07-03-21, 10:19
I went back to Osaka and unfortunately Blue wasn't there (might have been with someone else). I saw Gold, late 40's, a little chubby, natural but not super perky.
She probably looks a bit better with make up, but she just came back from a shower so maybe she saw someone earlier, maybe she hadn't gotten ready yet. She hit me with the old " minimum" and I gave in because honestly I've been waiting for this all week. In total, $$. 6 and I left unhappy if I'm being honest.
Her breath smelled like pickles (maybe a little coffee too) and while the tease was nice, I would have loved to switch it up beyond missionary. When that didn't work, she tried to finish it with a handshake, but no dice. She did say she wanted a tip beyond the original donation if I did finish, but I guess for my sake she let me down and I didn't give her anything past that (no way I'm giving $$$ for that).
I might try a different spa later this week. Hopefully I can find something a bit better than Gold.
I got the churning butter do you want HJ, the 3 finger how much will you pay me, and one finger to the lips do not tell the boss hand signs from Cici at CY Massage. Very easy.Did you pay 300 for a handy?
Thanks.
When I called earlier there was a AA girl that answered the phone. Anybody seen her?If it's the AA normally working when I've been there, no DIY, not much a tease. Kinda shy. Great massage, though.
SamuelAdams
07-03-21, 17:14
Did you pay 300 for a handy?I guess three finger is $30?? Correct me if I am wrong.
I guess three finger is $30?? Correct me if I am wrong.Yes and yes.
I recently saw Anna from Anastasia's Angels (https://www.anangelstouchstl.com/about-4) and had a great time. Being on old timer I'm not always able to finish but there was no problem with this sweet, young thing. As an FYI, I think she has a real job so during the week she basically sees people after 5:30 but it seems her weekends are open as I saw her on a Saturday morning.
Member #6067
07-04-21, 22:12
Prostate specialist I'm searching nothing comes up any mongers can you help me.
Thanks.
Aim.
DoorGunner69
07-04-21, 22:25
When do you ask for the line up. When you are in the waiting room or behind the first closed door?
I also want to say I am glad I found this place. I was an elite member of rtp. Politics aside the form was great for making connections. I used that site a lot. It kept me safe and I had a very good time. Then that law passed and poof rtp was gone. My connection slowly dwindled away. I am a little older but not dead. I am hoping to make some new connections.Always ask for the line up as soon as you go through the front door into the waiting area. If you don't the next girl's turn it is will quickly rush you to a room and claim you as hers. She may be not your type and you are starting out at the beginning of disappointment.
Prostate specialist I'm searching nothing comes up any mongers can you help me.
Thanks.
Aim.Yesterday's ad https://40up.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/missouri/stlouis/64123240.
DeadDead22
07-05-21, 14:34
Stopped in at Fuji yesterday. I typically visit Osaka but they had 2 or 3 cars in lot and Fuji looked empty. Went in and asked for lineup. Older lady she bring me prettiest girl. I said I want to see a lineup. A 40 something lady came out and said I take you. I said I want to see all available. Finally ended up choosing Lee out if group of 3. We go in room and I gave her $60 for an hour expecting to negotiate extras when she returned. She said 1 hour minimum $200. I said what? I said I'd give another $100 for tip and she said $200 minimum. I said no go and she relented. Said bring $200 next time. Massage was terrible with no tease. After 10 minutes told me to flip and started a CBJ. Very lackluster. After a couple minutes told me to get on top. Not enjoyable at all. A lot of fake moaning. Had her finish me with a HJ. Ugh. Will not be back.I feel like $200 is pretty much standard for these places now. I know guys are looking for a good deal but your service was probably commensurate with what she was paid. I can remember when I mongered out in LA, I used to pay a young, 20-something Korean girl with banging body $120 total! Those days are gone. $200 for an escort will rely get you a full set of teeth nowadays. I'm just saying that you always have to remember that this is still a service-based industry and if she's being paid below what she feels her market value is, you will get that kind of service. Kinda like when Soulard Susan has to give me a freebie because ghosts me, it never includes ALL services usually rendered when I pay. Just bear in mind that the market trends are inflationary and considering what else is out there, $200 is a pretty good deal. But I do know that these chicks can sometimes either have off days or not good at faking that they enjoy what they're doing. That's a possibility too. Even Blue at Osaka sucked and fucked my brains out for $180 has some negative reports about her. Sometimes you get lucky, right? Not excusing her bad performance, but just explaining why she may have been a little lackluster.
Haven't seen any good reports in the last year. Has anyone had a good time with her?
I noticed the other day on 15x in Fairview heights a new sign that just says massage. It is next to lam lua foot spa. Any reports?
Thanks.
Terry2525.
RogueOne1977
07-06-21, 05:20
I feel like $200 is pretty much standard for these places now. I know guys are looking for a good deal but your service was probably commensurate with what she was paid. I can remember when I mongered out in LA, I used to pay a young, 20-something Korean girl with banging body $120 total! Those days are gone. $200 for an escort will rely get you a full set of teeth nowadays. I'm just saying that you always have to remember that this is still a service-based industry and if she's being paid below what she feels her market value is, you will get that kind of service. Kinda like when Soulard Susan has to give me a freebie because ghosts me, it never includes ALL services usually rendered when I pay. Just bear in mind that the market trends are inflationary and considering what else is out there, $200 is a pretty good deal. But I do know that these chicks can sometimes either have off days or not good at faking that they enjoy what they're doing. That's a possibility too. Even Blue at Osaka sucked and fucked my brains out for $180 has some negative reports about her. Sometimes you get lucky, right? Not excusing her bad performance, but just explaining why she may have been a little lackluster.Good point. But what determines the market value and why the changes? You say you payed 120 for a banging Korean gal. Well. What has caused these drastic mark ups? There has to be a reason behind it.
Haven't seen any good reports in the last year. Has anyone had a good time with her?I'm curious as well. Her old reviews aren't the greatest.
Good point. But what determines the market value and why the changes? You say you payed 120 for a banging Korean gal. Well. What has caused these drastic mark ups? There has to be a reason behind it.In 2020, FED printed $ and performed QE within 6 months for the same amounts that they did in 2008 Financial Crisis. Fed didn't even have to printout physical copy of USD, but just go to their buyer's bid in mortgage and bond markets and place an order as it has unlimited buying power per applicable pertaining laws that allows them to use USD. As a response, you see stock price surges when economy is tanking. This also means that value of USD is depreciated, against which bitcoin / dodge coin is surging (not necessarily gold).
In other words, Capital income potential is greater than labor income. While the hour rate in most states is still early 10 $, you can make big money in market.
Those in high premium groups can afford the rate (personally, I made big early this year during GME saga and Bitcoin surge), and 500 $ is not too much money. I have college friends who used to work in big tech company (like AMZN, SQ, and AAPL) as software engineers, and they quit the jobs after making couple of millions in 2020 (they are around 30's). Of course, some lost a little money early this year, but it's drop in a bucket. Financial Freedom is, like anything else, important for, especially Americans, who always value in the freedom.
Funny that when GME was tanking early March, I see some providers (online) crying for help that their 2 weeks of hard-earned money is depreciated when GME stock price plunges from 300 to 50 $ that they think they can get out of the cycle. So it was cheap to hang out with them for temporary discount. For a record, I read that in early 2010's, providers were paid as bitcoin (like 30 bitcoin) per session when the price was 10-20 $. Now BTC is around 35000 $, let alone, early this year, it went up to 60000 $. I read one post from the ex-provider that that payment changed her life that she is now managing the real estate property and just enjoying life (At least financially).
So my suggestion if you are still looking for reasonable price is that start to look when stock price is crashing. Their sugar daddies are stressed out when market is crashing, and therefore, the room for negotitation is higher than current financial outlook. However, I just don't think stock price will crash anytime soon (maybe correction with 10-20% plunge, but not like 30-40% crash as long as FED is supporting the financial market. Don't fight with Fed is one of the most important message in the market.
RogueOne1977
07-06-21, 15:15
I'm curious as well. Her old reviews aren't the greatest.I saw her a few years back and was not a great time. She was on her phone constantly and she seemed like she was hopped up on something and the whole thing was very rushed. Didn't even let me finish which is terrible service in this industry. I mean that should be their goal for the whole thing. I don't know if she is better now but that is my experience with her before Covid. Around 2 years ago.
Does anyone have any experience with this Lindsay lately?
https://escortbabylon.net/posts_view/64185995/6362339274
Her reviews on EB are all really good, and she looks awesome.
Does anyone have any experience with this Lindsay lately?
https://escortbabylon.net/posts_view/64185995/6362339274
Her reviews on EB are all really good, and she looks awesome.Her reviews are great on EB because if you post a bad one, which I did, she gets it deleted and kicked off EB. So there's that. First time I set up a meeting I was ghosted in the parking lot and she never responded again. Since she is close to me the little head convinced me to try again in a few months with a different number. Set it up, saw her, nice nuru, BBBJ, cim. She is of course heavier than she looks in the pics but she's cute and was nice. Texted her again a couple weeks later, she was friendly, set up an appointment, then when I got there she ghosted me and blocked me with no explanation. She is notorious for doing that. So if you have time for her games you might have fun.
Read this if you want a good laugh.
https://superasian.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/missouri/stlouis/64002196#.
Good point. But what determines the market value and why the changes? You say you payed 120 for a banging Korean gal. Well. What has caused these drastic mark ups? There has to be a reason behind it.Part of the problem with these increased prices for less service is a multi faceted problem IMO.
#1. Many of the Millennial and Younger generations have been spoiled with instant gratification. Partially, because of the internet, Social Media, the stories they read about on social media. Friends talking about what they heard someone else gets. Prices, Services provided. Try looking up Female Escorts on Reddit. They have many chat rooms for the providers and only providers and a couple for hobbyist and provider where they can participate. 90 percent of these girls chatting believe in the he should just be happy I'm servicing him. Many of the girls attack any other girl or even the thought of another girl offering certain services at certain prices. Most on their despise anyone asking for bareback of any kind. I've even heard a couple girls attack mongers and providers that even mention bareback anything. I LMAO, when I heard one girl say he should be happy if I provide him with a bareback HJ! The knew norm is being branded everywhere we look not just the hobby. Shame people that assert determination that could or would raise the bar of expected performance. Many expect higher pay with way lesser quality of service. This isn't just in the hobby but almost everywhere in the working world.
#2. All these government hand outs many girls have been receiving doesn't teach these girls the value of a dollar. Our government literally paid unemployed more than they made when they are employed. Don't get me wrong many people did deserve financial assistance with the lock downs. However, many people that weren't working worked around the system so they could fully benefit. With some making more than they ever did to sit at home and do nothing. When a person pushes themselves to work harder for something they end up appreciating it much more. When they just get handed it they lose that sense of hunger and drive.
Before the Fosta act these girls would have serious competition. So, either they would adapt to the environment or they would have to move on as they weren't able to support themselves. That meant a real job which is something that scares the shit out of many providers. I've heard so many girls say there was no way they could take a normal job by the hour. They have been too used to making 1-2 days pay for around an hour of service. Imagine them actually paying taxes on money they earned, I'm sure a very small percentage do pay taxes on providing but I'm willing to go out on a limb and say the heavy majority don't. So, that hour service in most cases they probably actually worked 20-30 minutes at best? Pre covid meant they wouldn't have money for rent, car, food, certain dependancies and etc. That's how they survived! So, now in the Covid / Post Covid world everything is free for many. Government funding, laws against evictions which mentally gives this person no motivation to push themselves to seek employment Especially, providing good service in this hobby. This has become the Norm for many especially girls in the hobby!
Once the government handouts and ban on evictions expire then we will see some changes. I'm sure many will try and get even more money than their inflated current inflated prices. However, once they don't have the freebies reality will start setting in. Some will learn faster than others but eventually they will have to come to terms with the situation and either run with it or move on and find a real 9-5 job.
At least this is my take on things.
In 2020, FED printed $ and performed QE within 6 months for the same amounts that they did in 2008 Financial Crisis. Fed didn't even have to printout physical copy of USD, but just go to their buyer's bid in mortgage and bond markets and place an order as it has unlimited buying power per applicable pertaining laws that allows them to use USD. As a response, you see stock price surges when economy is tanking. This also means that value of USD is depreciated, against which bitcoin / dodge coin is surging (not necessarily gold).
In other words, Capital income potential is greater than labor income. While the hour rate in most states is still early 10 $, you can make big money in market.
Those in high premium groups can afford the rate (personally, I made big early this year during GME saga and Bitcoin surge), and 500 $ is not too much money. I have college friends who used to work in big tech company (like AMZN, SQ, and AAPL) as software engineers, and they quit the jobs after making couple of millions in 2020 (they are around 30's). Of course, some lost a little money early this year, but it's drop in a bucket. Financial Freedom is, like anything else, important for, especially Americans, who always value in the freedom.
Funny that when GME was tanking early March, I see some providers (online) crying for help that their 2 weeks of hard-earned money is depreciated when GME stock price plunges from 300 to 50 $ that they think they can get out of the cycle. So it was cheap to hang out with them for temporary discount. For a record, I read that in early 2010's, providers were paid as bitcoin (like 30 bitcoin) per session when the price was 10-20 $. Now BTC is around 35000 $, let alone, early this year, it went up to 60000 $. I read one post from the ex-provider that that payment changed her life that she is now managing the real estate property and just enjoying life (At least financially).I see your new here. Welcome! I apologize in advance and hope no offense is taken by the following. This isn't a stock chat room and nor does anything really relate to 95% or plus of the girls in this hobby. Sure, people are feeling inflation on day to day living expenses but this isn't why 95% plus are requesting more $$ and providing less of a service. There are many factors. I understand your thinking as the monger is being more conservative with his luxury expenses cutting back allowances. In the majority of cases many Sugar Daddy Arrangements don't last that long. Some may last a few months less will last 6 months and even less a year. I have girls I see that I've seen multiple years but there is no allowance. I responded to a post regarding this topic a couple minutes ago.
Please see that post for my response. Glad to see new faces participating.
Regards.
RogueOne1977
07-06-21, 23:10
Part of the problem with these increased prices for less service is a multi faceted problem IMO.
#1. Many of the Millennial and Younger generations have been spoiled with instant gratification. Partially, because of the internet, Social Media, the stories they read about on social media. Friends talking about what they heard someone else gets. Prices, Services provided. Try looking up Female Escorts on Reddit. They have many chat rooms for the providers and only providers and a couple for hobbyist and provider where they can participate. 90 percent of these girls chatting believe in the he should just be happy I'm servicing him. Many of the girls attack any other girl or even the thought of another girl offering certain services at certain prices. Most on their despise anyone asking for bareback of any kind. I've even heard a couple girls attack mongers and providers that even mention bareback anything. I LMAO, when I heard one girl say he should be happy if I provide him with a bareback HJ! The knew norm is being branded everywhere we look not just the hobby. Shame people that assert determination that could or would raise the bar of expected performance. Many expect higher pay with way lesser quality of service. This isn't just in the hobby but almost everywhere in the working world.
#2. All these government hand outs many girls have been receiving doesn't teach these girls the value of a dollar. Our government literally paid unemployed more than they made when they are employed. Don't get me wrong many people did deserve financial assistance with the lock downs. However, many people that weren't working worked around the system so they could fully benefit. With some making more than they ever did to sit at home and do nothing. When a person pushes themselves to work harder for something they end up appreciating it much more. When they just get handed it they lose that sense of hunger and drive.I think you hit the nail on the head. They have some cushion right now with the free handouts but once they are faced with reality again it will go back to normal. They may try to raise prices but if they do that it will be so ridiculous nobody will pay them. I'm thinking you are right. Its just a matter of time. Part of it is the social media high as well but that has been there for over 10 years or more and its never been this bad. I'm thinking it has to do with Covid. A lot of them probably saw they can scam guys online with sites like Only Fans and have to do minimal work. I'm serious hoping it goes back to normal because this is bleak and very frustrating. To have to pay 200 minimum for an average girl is beyond insane.
RogueOne1977
07-06-21, 23:15
I see your new here. Welcome! I apologize in advance and hope no offense is taken by the following. This isn't a stock chat room and nor does anything really relate to 95% or plus of the girls in this hobby. Sure, people are feeling inflation on day to day living expenses but this isn't why 95% plus are requesting more $$ and providing less of a service. There are many factors. I understand your thinking as the monger is being more conservative with his luxury expenses cutting back allowances. In the majority of cases many Sugar Daddy Arrangements don't last that long. Some may last a few months less will last 6 months and even less a year. I have girls I see that I've seen multiple years but there is no allowance. I responded to a post regarding this topic a couple minutes ago.
Please see that post for my response. Glad to see new faces participating.
Regards.Good post. Then what is your take on the inflated prices? Do you think it has to do with the free government hand outs as well? I guess I didn't realize that these girls get together in a sort of hive-mind group and discuss rates. If that's the case they can virtually set them as high as they want if they all do it collectively. The only way they would come down is if guys stopped paying what they are asking. But I don't see that happening any time soon.
RicharddAngle
07-06-21, 23:42
Read this if you want a good laugh.
https://superasian.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/missouri/stlouis/64002196#.Boy, she sure knows how to sell herself. I can't wait to give her a call. Not text. Call!
Boundaries? I don't need no stinking boundaries.
Ahmed 😁.
Boy, she sure knows how to sell herself. I can't wait to give her a call. Not text. Call!
Boundaries? I don't need no stinking boundaries.
Ahmed 😁.I'm about to send a dick pic to her I'm sure shell love that.
Does anyone have any experience with this Lindsay lately?
https://escortbabylon.net/posts_view/64185995/6362339274
Her reviews on EB are all really good, and she looks awesome.Like many others, I tried to see her and was unsuccessful. This was just a few weeks ago, I set up an appointment the day before for her most expensive session (so that I wouldn't get bumped by someone else), and the morning of as I was on my way she texted me with some lame ass excuse and that she needed to reschedule. If you do a search here you will find she is notorious for ghosting people. I gave it a shot, maybe you'll have better luck.
SanNigerian
07-07-21, 12:53
Haven't seen any good reports in the last year. Has anyone had a good time with her?I did. It was fun. She was doing something where you had to follow her only fans to be able to book. She seemed to have few available appointments that worked for me.
Has anyone had any experience with the lady advertising on rubratings from Union, Missouri. She looks good, but asking $200 for rub and $250 for nude. Kind of pricey, but looks intriguing.I was curious as to the same ad. I did notice that when it was first posted there were zero reviews and now the reviews are disabled. Begins to make me question it. Interested to know if anyone else has any Intel.
Tried to set up an appointment with the "new" number the Apt. Asians were using, 314-XXX-7568. No one answered, but about 30 minutes later I rec'd a text saying "hi. Sorry I missed your call. " Does anyone know if that 314-XXX-7568 number is still good, or did they change it again? Thanks.
I visited Toni the other day. A little delayed on initial response, but it worked out. Drove to st chuck accurate directions to her place, typical call when you park and be discreet.
Got to her door and when she opened it. OMG this woman is very gorgeous in my opinion. I was excited to say the least. Got to the table chatted a bit, and we both got completely comfortable. BTW she has great big tits, pics are accurate. She has a very professional setup, clean, and smelled nice. Got to the rub and it was amazing very professional feeling perfect pressure. Got to the flip and she continued the professional massage with some erotic teasing here and there. She eventually focused all her efforts on my good parts with her hands and tits, allowing some light touching to her. The finish was amazing and I left relaxed and happy. She's cool af, someone you can sit and have a real conversation with. I asked about extras and she declined. Ask her for price I was just south of 200. I'll go back due to decline in quality with other girls.
HolyStone1975
07-07-21, 23:44
I recently saw Anna from Anastasia's Angels (https://www.anangelstouchstl.com/about-4) and had a great time. Being on old timer I'm not always able to finish but there was no problem with this sweet, young thing. As an FYI, I think she has a real job so during the week she basically sees people after 5:30 but it seems her weekends are open as I saw her on a Saturday morning.She's been on SA for years. Just moved to working for the massage group because hustling on SA is way harder, I imagine. With the angels stuff there is a built in client base and she was already basically an escort in the way she worked SA. Met up with her a few times years ago but, IIRC, her rates were ridiculous for the level of service. Even off SA she would come right and say "500 per hour" when you texted with her. If she is in line with the normal Angel's rate (300 for FS) that the other girls do, then I would see her again but if she wants 500 for FS, no thanks. Not as long as Elle and Elsa are charging 300 for FS.
Here is her SA profile https://www.seeking.com/member/b0e725e7-f820-44d0-a8fe-c77d0aff3f35.
She's been on SA for years. Just moved to working for the massage group because hustling on SA is way harder, I imagine. With the angels stuff there is a built in client base and she was already basically an escort in the way she worked SA. Met up with her a few times years ago but, IIRC, her rates were ridiculous for the level of service. Even off SA she would come right and say "500 per hour" when you texted with her. If she is in line with the normal Angel's rate (300 for FS) that the other girls do, then I would see her again but if she wants 500 for FS, no thanks. Not as long as Elle and Elsa are charging 300 for FS.
Here is her SA profile https://www.seeking.com/member/b0e725e7-f820-44d0-a8fe-c77d0aff3f35.You are correct. She is on SA. I was chatting with her and I can confirm that on SA she wanted 500 plus you have to host or you get the hotel room or she gets the hotel room and you reimburse her. Hustling on SA is very challenging to say the least. If you have a SO, it makes it difficult. The gals you meet never can host it seems and / or they want you to get the hotel room which I / we can't (due to using a cc). This is the case with most of the girls in their 20's. The older they are, the price comes down to around $300 and they usually can host. There are a lot of scammers to wade through as well. Plus the women on SA always want a photo beforehand. When you go on the body rub sites, no photo required! And they host! I'm back to the usual Angels, ProLux and independents.
I was curious as to the same ad. I did notice that when it was first posted there were zero reviews and now the reviews are disabled. Begins to make me question it. Interested to know if anyone else has any Intel.It's a scam. This person has also posted on SA with photos of the exact same girl using multiple user names. I chatted with her (briefly and all they wanted was my phone number.
Since this is the Good Old Summertime I think you should pay Summer a visit and have a Good Old Time (which I hope isn't too cheesy or even idiotic? I have seen her a number of times and I always enjoy my visit (https://stlouis.rubratings.com/214284).
Since this is the Good Old Summertime I think you should pay Summer a visit and have a Good Old Time (which I hope isn't too cheesy or even idiotic? I have seen her a number of times and I always enjoy my visit (https://stlouis.rubratings.com/214284).Hey, Apache. Do you know if Summer is ok with cim, cof, or cot?
Platinum345
07-08-21, 11:48
I'm driving up to Chicago end of July early August. Does anyone have any recommendations of any worthwhile AMP's? I've had some pretty good road trips to Colorado and Florida. Multiple stops on my way there and back as well as my vacation destinations. Took a lot of research but figured I'd ask for some recommendations ahead of time. I'm looking for AMPs with hot young 20-30 yr old Asians experiences. Over and above the std. HJ finish. Like Nuru, FS, BBBJ with all the bells and whistles. Any info. Is very much appreciated. Thank you in advance!Haven't been to anything in Chicago but recently my job has taken me to Champaign-Urbana. I found the Shangri-la of AMP's. Ada is a fabulous young ABG. Bleached hair, PLUMP booty, little thick thighs & perky tits. Her tease is the best I have ever had at an AMP. I found myself offering her everything I had to come spend the night at my hotel. She is great with her hands and I've never left happier. If you're not driving through Champaign on the way to or from Chicago, you should. The detour is well worth it.
Since this is the Good Old Summertime I think you should pay Summer a visit and have a Good Old Time (which I hope isn't too cheesy or even idiotic? I have seen her a number of times and I always enjoy my visit (https://stlouis.rubratings.com/214284).Does summer offer FS?
Since this is the Good Old Summertime I think you should pay Summer a visit and have a Good Old Time (which I hope isn't too cheesy or even idiotic? I have seen her a number of times and I always enjoy my visit (https://stlouis.rubratings.com/214284).I agree with Apache. Summer has been one of my favorites for some time now. Visited her again recently and had a real nice time, as usual. I noticed she's been more busy lately so it may be a little harder to schedule, but certainly worth the wait. She's a nice lady. Treat her right guys.
She's been on SA for years. Just moved to working for the massage group because hustling on SA is way harder, I imagine. With the angels stuff there is a built in client base and she was already basically an escort in the way she worked SA. Met up with her a few times years ago but, IIRC, her rates were ridiculous for the level of service. Even off SA she would come right and say "500 per hour" when you texted with her. If she is in line with the normal Angel's rate (300 for FS) that the other girls do, then I would see her again but if she wants 500 for FS, no thanks. Not as long as Elle and Elsa are charging 300 for FS.
Here is her SA profile https://www.seeking.com/member/b0e725e7-f820-44d0-a8fe-c77d0aff3f35.But just so everyone is clear the average angel asks for 300-350 for the half hour for FS. If you want to do the full hour FS its about 400-450. Its not even clear if the hour rate includes MSOG. Although Anna's ask was / is high it is not that much more than most of them if you go by the hour. Ember and Reanne are the exception in that their rates are not as high, pretty straight forward with what you can expect and are very down to earth. Not to mention they are really good at what they do. This is why I see them way more than the other ones.
What is the word on these two? Accurate photos? What about their faces and teeth? LOL.
Surprised with prostate massage (not really my thing but didn't go very deep), and assisted diy. By assisted, I mean actually took turns and shot on both of our hands / arm.
Lots of rapport has been built already, but still getting more each team. Also lots and lots of teasing beforehand and no draping at all on the flip. Regular store price plus 20 dollar tip. Might have been Annie? Not sure on name. Older but not bad.
Part of the problem with these increased prices for less service is a multi faceted problem IMO.
#1. Many of the Millennial and Younger generations have been spoiled with instant gratification. Partially, because of the internet, Social Media, the stories they read about on social media. Friends talking about what they heard someone else gets. Prices, Services provided. Try looking up Female Escorts on Reddit. They have many chat rooms for the providers and only providers and a couple for hobbyist and provider where they can participate. 90 percent of these girls chatting believe in the he should just be happy I'm servicing him. Many of the girls attack any other girl or even the thought of another girl offering certain services at certain prices. Most on their despise anyone asking for bareback of any kind. I've even heard a couple girls attack mongers and providers that even mention bareback anything. I LMAO, when I heard one girl say he should be happy if I provide him with a bareback HJ! The knew norm is being branded everywhere we look not just the hobby. Shame people that assert determination that could or would raise the bar of expected performance. Many expect higher pay with way lesser quality of service. This isn't just in the hobby but almost everywhere in the working world.I agree we need to stop the government handouts and Close these loop holes the corporations and ultra rich are using to skirt paying taxes.
Part of the problem with these increased prices for less service is a multi faceted problem IMO.
#1. Many of the Millennial and Younger generations have been spoiled with instant gratification. Partially, because of the internet, Social Media, the stories they read about on social media. Friends talking about what they heard someone else gets. Prices, Services provided. Try looking up Female Escorts on Reddit. They have many chat rooms for the providers and only providers and a couple for hobbyist and provider where they can participate. 90 percent of these girls chatting believe in the he should just be happy I'm servicing him. Many of the girls attack any other girl or even the thought of another girl offering certain services at certain prices. Most on their despise anyone asking for bareback of any kind. I've even heard a couple girls attack mongers and providers that even mention bareback anything. I LMAO, when I heard one girl say he should be happy if I provide him with a bareback HJ! The knew norm is being branded everywhere we look not just the hobby. Shame people that assert determination that could or would raise the bar of expected performance. Many expect higher pay with way lesser quality of service. This isn't just in the hobby but almost everywhere in the working world.
#2. All these government hand outs many girls have been receiving doesn't teach these girls the value of a dollar. Our government literally paid unemployed more than they made when they are employed. Don't get me wrong many people did deserve financial assistance with the lock downs. However, many people that weren't working worked around the system so they could fully benefit. With some making more than they ever did to sit at home and do nothing. When a person pushes themselves to work harder for something they end up appreciating it much more. When they just get handed it they lose that sense of hunger and drive.The real problem is, guys paying these outrageous prices to these dollar store providers who are asking too much, with sub-par service, that's the problem lets just call it what it is. LOL.
Once some of us wake up and start to. Not pay for that poor service and jacked up prices they will drop. Lets be honest about it.
Does summer offer FS?Summer does massage with HJ for her standard 120 fee. Upgradable to BBBJ for 60 more; cim is variable. No FS. No kissing anywhere on her body.
DoorGunner69
07-09-21, 01:49
I'm driving up to Chicago end of July early August. Does anyone have any recommendations of any worthwhile AMP's? I've had some pretty good road trips to Colorado and Florida. Multiple stops on my way there and back as well as my vacation destinations. Took a lot of research but figured I'd ask for some recommendations ahead of time. I'm looking for AMPs with hot young 20-30 yr old Asians experiences. Over and above the std. HJ finish. Like Nuru, FS, BBBJ with all the bells and whistles. Any info. Is very much appreciated. Thank you in advance!You might try IVY in Lombard off of Roosevelt Rd.
Been a while, but never disappointed in any of their MT's. They had really good looking girls with all options available. Not the old plump Asians we see down here in St. Louis.
RogueOne1977
07-09-21, 02:34
The real problem is, guys paying these outrageous prices to these dollar store providers who are asking too much, with sub-par service, that's the problem lets just call it what it is. LOL.
Once some of us wake up and start to. Not pay for that poor service and jacked up prices they will drop. Lets be honest about it.I agree. But it wasn't like this pre-covid. Yes the prices were slightly higher but once Covid hit I think the female hive mind got together and decided to raise the prices astronomically. I still can't figure out how or why it happened but it was almost night and day. 100 or 120 was standard for a qv before the virus hit now you can't even find a quickly for less than 200 and she might not even have all of her teeth. Shit is ridiculous now. Its not even slightly inflated its almost cartoonish.
The real problem is, guys paying these outrageous prices to these dollar store providers who are asking too much, with sub-par service, that's the problem lets just call it what it is. LOL.
Once some of us wake up and start to. Not pay for that poor service and jacked up prices they will drop. Lets be honest about it.Just like lumber (supply and demand)! But will it ever come down where it was?
HentaiNerd
07-09-21, 11:23
I went to Tokyo Spa because I heard it was even better than Osaka. I didn't get the 20-30 year old line up I for some reason believed I'd get, maybe I misread a past post about what to expect.
Sara (h) led me to honestly what looked like a queen size version of the tables I've seen in the past (though don't take my word it, I've fairly new). Standard 30 minute house fee led to a great massage, 8/10, higher if I had the guts to speak up about what areas to focus on. The whole shebang was only $$.
I will say she did pull a few of the old tricks, pretending to give BBBJ and slip on a glove as well as getting on top and finishing me off with a hand but pretending she's riding. But that doesn't mean it was a bad experience, definitely want to try again in the next month or so.
Sarah was pretty nice, but remind me to try Lisa. Sara was cute, petite, somewhere in the 40's, might have had work done a while ago because they felt soft but still a little droopy. Only thing I'd say wasn't attractive was cigarette breath, but that's only if you get her panting hard.
NikeSportsMan
07-09-21, 13:32
Haven't been to anything in Chicago but recently my job has taken me to Champaign-Urbana. I found the Shangri-la of AMP's. Ada is a fabulous young ABG. Bleached hair, PLUMP booty, little thick thighs & perky tits. Her tease is the best I have ever had at an AMP. I found myself offering her everything I had to come spend the night at my hotel. She is great with her hands and I've never left happier. If you're not driving through Champaign on the way to or from Chicago, you should. The detour is well worth it.She sounds nice. What size are the tits you think? And what AMP.
Pre Covid our hobby was definitely in decline from pre fosta. But, we could still find a decent cheeseburger. Covid / Post Covid we are stuck with Ham No Burger, Peanut Butter No Jelly.
I agree. But it wasn't like this pre-covid. Yes the prices were slightly higher but once Covid hit I think the female hive mind got together and decided to raise the prices astronomically. I still can't figure out how or why it happened but it was almost night and day. 100 or 120 was standard for a qv before the virus hit now you can't even find a quickly for less than 200 and she might not even have all of her teeth. Shit is ridiculous now. Its not even slightly inflated its almost cartoonish.
https://stlouis.rubratings.com/187818
Anyone try this one out yet? Looks way too good to be true. I can't do outcalls because my wife is all like,"who's this ***** in our house" LOL.
It should as builders can't keep absorbing the increases. I see an eventual halt in construction / development and if the lumber mills hold these inflated prices a possible change in building methods on a major scale is the answer. I've been in building industry for over 26 years and a change in our current building methods is something I've been researching. Its a tough nut to crack but major changes in any industry isn't easy. Same thing with the hobby! If Mongers aren't seeing providers and the gov. Freebies expire providers will have no choice but to become more in line price wise and service. Mongers STOP rewarding these girls for insane prices and watered down shitty service.
Just like lumber (supply and demand)! But will it ever come down where it was?
https://stlouis.rubratings.com/187818
Anyone try this one out yet? Looks way too good to be true. I can't do outcalls because my wife is all like,"who's this ***** in our house" LOL.There's one way for you to find out. Rent a room and see who steps through the door is actually from San Diego or not. Sometimes I'll see an out of area code ad, then see if they've posted back "home" or not. STL doesn't get on many traveling ladies' list of stops for several reasons-supposed bad reputation for guys being cheap, lack of good airfares, making the news for crime, and the list goes on. Even if it's a fake ad, as long as you weren't gullible enough to prepay with a credit card or a cash app deposit, then that's the worst you could have done. It isn't the first time somebody's posted a fake or misleading ad, nor will it be the last. So go out and reward yourself with a local provider that does incall, and be sure to send along a trip report!
Bill Bradsky
07-10-21, 20:33
She sounds nice. What size are the tits you think? And what AMP.The AMP is called Shangri-La and while your over that way you can visit Kelly, who used to work at Orchid Day Spa with Summer.
Bill Bradsky
07-11-21, 14:46
Read this if you want a good laugh.
https://superasian.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/missouri/stlouis/64002196#.The funny thing is that she is not even Asian.
WoodenRabbit19
07-11-21, 21:30
Does summer offer FS?It was not offered for me a little while back, but I generally do not push for upgrades.
WR.
Platinum345
07-12-21, 10:33
She sounds nice. What size are the tits you think? And what AMP.Her tits are small but perky. She has a short thick body. Not your typical Asian woman build. She's a hottie tho.
Visited Sakura over the weekend for an hour massage. Got Mina or Minha. Very good massage with plenty of teasing but DYI. They are very busy, I recommend making an appointment. Thanks.
I know alot has been written about Daisy on Rub Ratings. Are any of you guys a VIP member with her which from what I understand is $650 for 10 massages. Seems like a big risk of ghosting you after she gets the upfront money. Anybody sign up for this?
BigJohn314
07-13-21, 12:34
I know alot has been written about Daisy on Rub Ratings. Are any of you guys a VIP member with her which from what I understand is $650 for 10 massages. Seems like a big risk of ghosting you after she gets the upfront money. Anybody sign up for this?Why on earth would you do that?
I have only gone to Angels for a good time. Unfortunately good ones come and go a lot. Who are some go to ladies at prolux? I haven't tried them yet but looking for some reviews. TIA.
Why on earth would you do that?I have no idea. I won't.
WoodenRabbit19
07-13-21, 20:57
I have only gone to Angels for a good time. Unfortunately good ones come and go a lot. Who are some go to ladies at prolux? I haven't tried them yet but looking for some reviews. TIA.Brea is good. MILF and used to lift weights. Still in good shape, but it's been six months or so. Lizzy was very much against even casual mutual touch, which was way different than first visit. I'm looking to TOFTT and see Harley next week unless anyone has info otherwise. Haven't seen the others or it's been long to remember.
WR.
Brea is good. MILF and used to lift weights. Still in good shapeSaw Brea a couple weeks ago. My first time visiting any of Lake's girls. Set-up was easy, standard cash fee. She matched the MILF description and aligned to the images in my mind. Talked a lot during the session but the rub was nice. Said she was going to get back into the figure competitions. Finish was HJ with her toned naked body in a 69 position with her nice ass and kitty right in my face. It was a good view. I did not inquire about extras but will next time. Definitely on my repeat list.
I have only gone to Angels for a good time. Unfortunately good ones come and go a lot. Who are some go to ladies at prolux? I haven't tried them yet but looking for some reviews. TIA.If you been to angels then you won't like proluxe they have very limited menu I had a couple of proluxe visits and if you are only expecting a HJ then youll be happy I stopped going to proluxe after meeting 2 of them and they both upcharged for MT. For that price I rather see the angels, eden, megan are any of the others reviewed here on the board for a better time.
If you been to angels then you won't like proluxe they have very limited menu I had a couple of proluxe visits and if you are only expecting a HJ then youll be happy I stopped going to proluxe after meeting 2 of them and they both upcharged for MT. For that price I rather see the angels, eden, megan are any of the others reviewed here on the board for a better time.What about Carley?
Saw Brea a couple weeks ago. My first time visiting any of Lake's girls. Set-up was easy, standard cash fee. She matched the MILF description and aligned to the images in my mind. Talked a lot during the session but the rub was nice. Said she was going to get back into the figure competitions. Finish was HJ with her toned naked body in a 69 position with her nice ass and kitty right in my face. It was a good view. I did not inquire about extras but will next time. Definitely on my repeat list.I have had a good time with Brea before but not since the upcharge MT started. So, was there an upcharge for the MT or 69?
Paulieb9601
07-15-21, 14:42
Brea is good. MILF and used to lift weights. Still in good shape, but it's been six months or so. Lizzy was very much against even casual mutual touch, which was way different than first visit. I'm looking to TOFTT and see Harley next week unless anyone has info otherwise. Haven't seen the others or it's been long to remember.
WR.I saw Harley last week. The pictures were a fair representation. She obviously wasn't as hot as the girl in the picture, but I found her to be attractive, so I was happy to see her. She did also charge for MT, which I think we all agree that we don't like.
The massage was good. It wasn't a therapeutic massage, but she did some time working on me, which I appreciate. She did not offer me a shower, but spent the full amount of time focused on me. I think I was in my car and pulling out after 55 minutes.
There was a lot of teasing. First just reaching under and playing with the boys, then reaching under and stroking. The girls were rubbing against my back and against my head. On the flip, she massaged my legs and continued to tease, which was great. She then moved to my massage my chest and would lean over with the girls hanging over my face. When it came time for the ending, I was more than ready.
With the mt fee, it was a little more than I wanted to spend, but it was a good massage with a lot of teasing so, I was happy with the visit and no regrets.
I have had a good time with Brea before but not since the upcharge MT started. So, was there an upcharge for the MT or 69?No up charge. But my hands did not roam and the 69 was view only no contact with the goods besides the HJ. I feel like we got on OK conversationally so as always YMMV.
Visited Lila with Prolux yesterday. Very cute petite girl. Pleasantly surprised after some if my past Prolux visits. Looks nothing like the pictures on her ad. The massage was very weak. Some reach under teasing but not much. She spent more time on calves than anywhere. She had up charges to get panties off, for mutual touch and another one for licking the boobs. She made it clear she didn't do FS or BJ at all. Up charges were an extra 50 for each. The Ending HJ was ok. All in all, a pleasant visit but no where near the service of the angels. YMMV.
Member #7333
07-16-21, 09:38
No up charge. But my hands did not roam and the 69 was view only no contact with the goods besides the HJ. I feel like we got on OK conversationally so as always YMMV.My guess is business is down and this is a way to get more $$ for the ladies but guys we all need to stop visiting this lame ass pay to MT prolix and choke out lakes money in hopes all her girls quit this is one of the dumbest things ever really 50 for MT 50 for panties off 50 to lick boobs so I am 290 and that's just some touching yeah screw that guys on the forum stop seeing these girls now and tell your friends.
Enough with including in your post or ending your post with "YMMV. " EVERYONE realizes it.
Seeing the news pro Lux girl ivy, anyone have any details? If not I'll report back later.
TallBlondeDumb
07-16-21, 14:31
I'm looking for new massage parlors in the Saint Charles area. Most of the ones I have been to were a DYI. There are a few places I want to check out, but would like to know if you guys have any input. There is Bluebird massage, Beijing Foot Massage, and Z Spa Massage. Thanks!
Enough with including in your post or ending your post with "YMMV. " EVERYONE realizes it.I second the motion. The sky is blue, all women are different depending on the scenario, and Ya'll don't get paid per word here!
KevinKsc90
07-16-21, 18:53
Which place has the hottest girls as of recent?
After a long absent in playtime, I went thru the screening for a visit with Sensual Scarlett. Was well worth the extra work.
Very good and professional level massage on my back. Great conversation during this massage. On the flip side just climbed on of me with a nice grinding on my tool. Planking on top of me teasing me, giving me access to each breast. Hands roaming wherever I want. I wanted to explore her so she laid down and allowed me to do so. Very "sweet" girl. Really enjoyed being pleased. I had a good time and sure she did too. Safe location, clean room. A real pleasure.
Slimpicker
07-17-21, 11:53
After a long absent in playtime, I went thru the screening for a visit with Sensual Scarlett. Was well worth the extra work.
Very good and professional level massage on my back. Great conversation during this massage. On the flip side just climbed on of me with a nice grinding on my tool. Planking on top of me teasing me, giving me access to each breast. Hands roaming wherever I want. I wanted to explore her so she laid down and allowed me to do so. Very "sweet" girl. Really enjoyed being pleased. I had a good time and sure she did too. Safe location, clean room. A real pleasure.Your first time seeing her? I'd love that treatment but wouldn't want to build up to that over 3 visits.
Donation?
HentaiNerd
07-17-21, 15:20
I saw Lisa this time, honestly the massage could have been better, but everything else was high class. Definitely very tight, just about pulled the damn glove off. Luckily I had a spare. CG wasn't great but mish is always pretty nice.
Mentioned a table shower and I'm inclined to try that next time. I was kinda nervous because I always shower beforehand, but I don't think I was able to scrub my back as much as I hoped--table shower seems to be something I'm interested in and she massaged my butt more often than I expected so that might be a clue for something she's into.
Anyway, whole experience was a 8/10, I actually finished happy and my neck muscles were attended to fairly well.
I'd love to try another parlor that has some younger women, everyone I've seen so far has been at least in their 40's. I doubt I'll find someone in their 20's, but anywhere in their 30's would be much appreciated.
Should have listened to all the reviews. Thought if I booked the highest end item on her menu, I wouldn't get bumped, but I got ghosted regardless. Drove all the way out to St. Charles, about 30 min drive. She was super responsive and polite all the way through. When I parked, she asked me to come up and once I was at the door, she said she was coming to the door. I waited a few minutes and then got another text saying her AC needed to be fixed and they were doing it now. Absolutely bizarre.
Should have listened to all the reviews. Thought if I booked the highest end item on her menu, I wouldn't get bumped, but I got ghosted regardless. Drove all the way out to St. Charles, about 30 min drive. She was super responsive and polite all the way through. When I parked, she asked me to come up and once I was at the door, she said she was coming to the door. I waited a few minutes and then got another text saying her AC needed to be fixed and they were doing it now. Absolutely bizarre.Damn I'm sorry to hear that dude. I got ghosted as well. I went up the stairs and she gave some bullshit excuse about her kids or something. I try two separate times and same thing happen.
Should have listened to all the reviews. Thought if I booked the highest end item on her menu, I wouldn't get bumped, but I got ghosted regardless. Drove all the way out to St. Charles, about 30 min drive. She was super responsive and polite all the way through. When I parked, she asked me to come up and once I was at the door, she said she was coming to the door. I waited a few minutes and then got another text saying her AC needed to be fixed and they were doing it now. Absolutely bizarre.I did the exact same thing--booked her most expensive option, and she was very friendly as we texted back and forth. She made it sound like she couldn't wait to see me LOL. And I also got an excuse at the last minute. My guess is that it's a control thing for her.
StlGamerDude
07-18-21, 12:28
Seeing the news pro Lux girl ivy, anyone have any details? If not I'll report back later.I find you always have to read between the lines with prolux. Doesn't show age in description = 30+ years old. 'lush, feminine body' = probably 'curvy' or overweight. I'm looking forward to your report though.
OhioSteve513
07-18-21, 12:46
Memorial Day Weekend.
2 trips both with lots of roaming & HE from Lindy & Sunny.Update:
Health / Classic Massage on Olive remains consistently excellent. About 6 visits since late May. All very good massages with lots of roaming & reasonably priced HE from Lindy / Sunny / Sa-Sha. They had not been any good at all for a while, ever since Diana left. Does anyone know about Classic on Clayton Road?
Slimpicker
07-18-21, 15:00
Should have listened to all the reviews. Thought if I booked the highest end item on her menu, I wouldn't get bumped, but I got ghosted regardless. Drove all the way out to St. Charles, about 30 min drive. She was super responsive and polite all the way through. When I parked, she asked me to come up and once I was at the door, she said she was coming to the door. I waited a few minutes and then got another text saying her AC needed to be fixed and they were doing it now. Absolutely bizarre.
Damn I'm sorry to hear that dude. I got ghosted as well. I went up the stairs and she gave some bullshit excuse about her kids or something. I try two separate times and same thing happen.
I did the exact same thing--booked her most expensive option, and she was very friendly as we texted back and forth. She made it sound like she couldn't wait to see me LOL. And I also got an excuse at the last minute. My guess is that it's a control thing for her.Sounds like she might have a CAM installed somewhere and sees you in person then makes a call on the spot. So "she" is picky about the guys looks? Really?? That's just weird.
Should have listened to all the reviews. Thought if I booked the highest end item on her menu, I wouldn't get bumped, but I got ghosted regardless. Drove all the way out to St. Charles, about 30 min drive. She was super responsive and polite all the way through. When I parked, she asked me to come up and once I was at the door, she said she was coming to the door. I waited a few minutes and then got another text saying her AC needed to be fixed and they were doing it now. Absolutely bizarre.And no Showwwww. It might be worth getting few throw away phones. Can you change phone numbers on those things?
ChrisHansen92
07-18-21, 18:07
I'm a member also. I was a one and done to her I guess. As I left she said she couldn't wait to see me again. LOL This was back before the transition to the whole massage / nuru girl thing. She could have had the potential (even pushing 40) to have some good long term reliable clients and probably not have to run ads. But consistency and reliability she fails miserably by her own fault. The reason her business model by doing this is failing is look at the Walmart price roll back's she is doing to bring in revenue as guys stop trying to see her. Now offering QV as low as 55 bucks and 45 min at 125. Instead of stepping back and reevaluating the product and it's reliability, she offers a sketchy and unreliable service forcing her to drop prices to keep the cash flow going. This leads people like me (and many of you I hope), to be left standing there waiting to hand her money while she ghost's you refusing to ever give her another chance again. Just like Piper and Kristina she monitors her comments and reviews closely on Crusty Crawler. Any hint of negative, less than amazing experience with her is reported and removed. Hence reading all the reviews and comments she is the best and most reliable provider available in the LOU. I am certain all these years in the business she reads this forum, at the least has loyal followers that share post's like this with her. Sorry IDGAF. You can't have my honest experience with you and opinion of your business model like you did on my honest review of you on ListCrawler reported and removed. I encourage anyone considering taking a chance with her to remember Nancy Reagan and her drug motto. "Just say no".
I did the exact same thing--booked her most expensive option, and she was very friendly as we texted back and forth. She made it sound like she couldn't wait to see me LOL. And I also got an excuse at the last minute. My guess is that it's a control thing for her.
RicharddAngle
07-18-21, 22:09
Update:
Health / Classic Massage on Olive remains consistently excellent. About 6 visits since late May. All very good massages with lots of roaming & reasonably priced HE from Lindy / Sunny / Sa-Sha. They had not been any good at all for a while, ever since Diana left. Does anyone know about Classic on Clayton Road?Walked in a month ago. I go in theses places to see what they look like even if I have no intention of getting a massage to see who is working there. I ask what their hours are and how much for an hour, then say I may call tomorrow to schedule something, which I rarely do. The last two times I've gone in Classic on Clayton they have been middle aged and lacking in the looks dept. I also seem to remember a post about some peeping Tom shenanigans going on a while back.
I had some success at a little place just West 4 Seasons Plaza on Olive, which I think was Classic also.
Sounds like she might have a CAM installed somewhere and sees you in person then makes a call on the spot. So "she" is picky about the guys looks? Really?? That's just weird.
It's not that simple Slim. She ghosted me the first time I set up an appointment. I showed up, got ghosted in the parking lot. Then blocked. A few months later (little head was thinking. And she is close to me) I tried with a different number. She let me in, decent visit, nuru, BBBJ, cim. All good. I tipped. Got along great. A few weeks later I set up another appt. She was very nice texting. We set up a time. I showed up, ghosted, then blocked again. She's got issues.
RogueOne1977
07-18-21, 23:46
And no Showwwww. It might be worth getting few throw away phones. Can you change phone numbers on those things?You don't even need to go that far. There are text apps that give you different numbers.
RogueOne1977
07-18-21, 23:50
I'm a member also. I was a one and done to her I guess. As I left she said she couldn't wait to see me again. LOL This was back before the transition to the whole massage / nuru girl thing. She could have had the potential (even pushing 40) to have some good long term reliable clients and probably not have to run ads. But consistency and reliability she fails miserably by her own fault. The reason her business model by doing this is failing is look at the Walmart price roll back's she is doing to bring in revenue as guys stop trying to see her. Now offering QV as low as 55 bucks and 45 min at 125. Instead of stepping back and reevaluating the product and it's reliability, she offers a sketchy and unreliable service forcing her to drop prices to keep the cash flow going. This leads people like me (and many of you I hope), to be left standing there waiting to hand her money while she ghost's you refusing to ever give her another chance again. Just like Piper and Kristina she monitors her comments and reviews closely on Crusty Crawler. Any hint of negative, less than amazing experience with her is reported and removed. Hence reading all the reviews and comments she is the best and most reliable provider available in the LOU. I am certain all these years in the business she reads this forum, at the least has loyal followers that share post's like this with her. Sorry IDGAF. You can't have my honest experience with you and opinion of your business model like you did on my honest review of you on ListCrawler reported and removed. I encourage anyone considering taking a chance with her to remember Nancy Reagan and her drug motto. "Just say no".You read these experiences and wonder what is wrong with her? Is she doing this just for kicks or does she have a mental disorder? I'm sure there is a reason behind it but she is really screwing herself with this behavior. It makes her look like a psycho.
RogueOne1977
07-18-21, 23:53
It's not that simple Slim. She ghosted me the first time I set up an appointment. I showed up, got ghosted in the parking lot. Then blocked. A few months later (little head was thinking. And she is close to me) I tried with a different number. She let me in, decent visit, nuru, BBBJ, cim. All good. I tipped. Got along great. A few weeks later I set up another appt. She was very nice texting. We set up a time. I showed up, ghosted, then blocked again. She's got issues.She has issues or could be that she gets a bigger bite and decides to ghost you for more money. That happens a lot in this biz because most of these women have no integrity. They could care less about you as long as they get the most money possible. Still. She sounds like a straight psycho.
RogueOne1977
07-18-21, 23:56
I'm a member also. I was a one and done to her I guess. As I left she said she couldn't wait to see me again. LOL This was back before the transition to the whole massage / nuru girl thing. She could have had the potential (even pushing 40) to have some good long term reliable clients and probably not have to run ads. But consistency and reliability she fails miserably by her own fault. The reason her business model by doing this is failing is look at the Walmart price roll back's she is doing to bring in revenue as guys stop trying to see her. Now offering QV as low as 55 bucks and 45 min at 125. Instead of stepping back and reevaluating the product and it's reliability, she offers a sketchy and unreliable service forcing her to drop prices to keep the cash flow going. This leads people like me (and many of you I hope), to be left standing there waiting to hand her money while she ghost's you refusing to ever give her another chance again. Just like Piper and Kristina she monitors her comments and reviews closely on Crusty Crawler. Any hint of negative, less than amazing experience with her is reported and removed. Hence reading all the reviews and comments she is the best and most reliable provider available in the LOU. I am certain all these years in the business she reads this forum, at the least has loyal followers that share post's like this with her. Sorry IDGAF. You can't have my honest experience with you and opinion of your business model like you did on my honest review of you on ListCrawler reported and removed. I encourage anyone considering taking a chance with her to remember Nancy Reagan and her drug motto. "Just say no".Thats dangerous that the girls can just have comments erased. If a provider is bad news or possibly puts you in a sketchy situation you should be able to tell the public. The guys running that need to have their teeth knocked out. That's bullshit and potentially dangerous behavior.
Slimpicker
07-19-21, 09:40
It's not that simple Slim. She ghosted me the first time I set up an appointment. I showed up, got ghosted in the parking lot. Then blocked. A few months later (little head was thinking. And she is close to me) I tried with a different number. She let me in, decent visit, nuru, BBBJ, cim. All good. I tipped. Got along great. A few weeks later I set up another appt. She was very nice texting. We set up a time. I showed up, ghosted, then blocked again. She's got issues.
She has issues or could be that she gets a bigger bite and decides to ghost you for more money. That happens a lot in this biz because most of these women have no integrity. They could care less about you as long as they get the most money possible. Still. She sounds like a straight psycho.Psyco or polar. It's almost too hard to believe you are walking into the place getting positive texts from her then literally seconds later and excuse that you know is fake. Could be that "better offer" thing you said. I dunno.
WOW this STL market is really a head shaker these days.
And no Showwwww. It might be worth getting few throw away phones. Can you change phone numbers on those things?Organizing a plan of multiple no shows would be a low-down trick and especially for anyone who had never had contact with her before.
I contacted her Friday hoping to see her Saturday afternoon. She responded shortly and told me she had an appointment already at the time I needed but she would check to make sure that person was coming. Later that night I received her message that he was coming so I did not get to have that appointment. I thanked her for her excellent communication. I have had absolutely no problems with her. She has been wonderful and I cannot wait to see her again. I have a hard time believing let anyone who behaves like a gentleman gets treated badly by her. My own experience has been wonderful.
Your first time seeing her? I'd love that treatment but wouldn't want to build up to that over 3 visits.
Donation?I have suggested Scarlett to several people both here and privately. What LeaveMeWet describes is pretty much what you will get on a first visit. There are other options once you become a "repeat customer". Everything is on her website, sensualscarlett.com.
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I'm looking for new massage parlors in the Saint Charles area. Most of the ones I have been to were a DYI. There are a few places I want to check out, but would like to know if you guys have any input. There is Bluebird massage, Beijing Foot Massage, and Z Spa Massage. Thanks!There was a lady at Bluebird, but I guess she got caught and read the riot act by the owner. Still there, but when I returned, no hint of tease anymore and is even strict on draping and keeps the door cracked open.
Organizing a plan of multiple no shows would be a low-down trick and especially for anyone who had never had contact with her before.
I contacted her Friday hoping to see her Saturday afternoon. She responded shortly and told me she had an appointment already at the time I needed but she would check to make sure that person was coming. Later that night I received her message that he was coming so I did not get to have that appointment. I thanked her for her excellent communication. I have had absolutely no problems with her. She has been wonderful and I cannot wait to see her again. I have a hard time believing let anyone who behaves like a gentleman gets treated badly by her. My own experience has been wonderful.How many times have you seen her?
Enough with including in your post or ending your post with "YMMV. " EVERYONE realizes it.Hmmm. I think YMMV!
Has anyone heard from Tammy lately?No recent posting so has anyone seen her lately?
Saw Sha Sha on Sunday. Late 40"s. Above average massage. Not much tease. No roaming allowed but did leave happy with can best be described as a business like handshake. 60/40 on the costs for an hour.
RoadKing1983
07-19-21, 23:16
Hello gents,
I have been travelling extensively for a few months and have not be around the Lou. It seems Jenny has fallen off the radar. I was at the least a simi regular and enjoyed seeing her. She has not been advertising and does not respond to messages. Any information would be much appreciated.
No recent posting so has anyone seen her lately?I texted the number she used for years to try to book, just on the off-chance that she was maybe still seeing people UTR, but got no response. Previously she had always been very responsive, so my guess is she's either on a break or is out of the biz.
I'm wondering if covid spurred her decision. She was insistent on both parties wearing masks, which probably killed her business. It's too bad, because I always enjoyed my time with her.
I texted the number she used for years to try to book, just on the off-chance that she was maybe still seeing people UTR, but got no response. Previously she had always been very responsive, so my guess is she's either on a break or is out of the biz.
I'm wondering if covid spurred her decision. She was insistent on both parties wearing masks, which probably killed her business. It's too bad, because I always enjoyed my time with her.She hasn't updated her Instagram since March 20. The last time I called there was no answer. I had great times with her. Whatever she is doing now, I wish her well.
BlahBlah983
07-20-21, 14:04
Has anyone seen the new Pro Lux girl Gigi?
GurLuver71
07-20-21, 15:59
Hello gents,
I have been travelling extensively for a few months and have not be around the Lou. It seems Jenny has fallen off the radar. I was at the least a simi regular and enjoyed seeing her. She has not been advertising and does not respond to messages. Any information would be much appreciated.I was actually wondering the same thing as I have seen her a couple of times. I then saw she posted one day last week on Rubratings, but haven't seen her post since then. Maybe she just isn't booking appointments as often. Just keep looking, as will I, and maybe we will get lucky.
How many times have you seen her?I have seen her at least three times. At least a couple more times I have tried to schedule with her but our schedules weren't compatible that day. I have had nothing but excellent communication and service from Lindsey I think she is the wonderful provider.
Organizing a plan of multiple no shows would be a low-down trick and especially for anyone who had never had contact with her before.
I contacted her Friday hoping to see her Saturday afternoon. She responded shortly and told me she had an appointment already at the time I needed but she would check to make sure that person was coming. Later that night I received her message that he was coming so I did not get to have that appointment. I thanked her for her excellent communication. I have had absolutely no problems with her. She has been wonderful and I cannot wait to see her again. I have a hard time believing let anyone who behaves like a gentleman gets treated badly by her. My own experience has been wonderful.Of all the post on her Ghosting from very reliable people on here I would venture to say, very few will take you seriously. Looks like you could have her all to yourself as long as you can bank roll it. Keeping her attention I would think may be a real challenge after your monetarily drained emotionally and physically.
DoorGunner69
07-20-21, 22:36
Saw Sha Sha on Sunday. Late 40"s. Above average massage. Not much tease. No roaming allowed but did leave happy with can best be described as a business like handshake. 60/40 on the costs for an hour.Ditto on Magnadan's review. Same here, Unattractive 50 somethings, no tease, no roaming, mechanical all business handshake. Will not repeat.
RogueOne1977
07-21-21, 03:12
I have seen her at least three times. At least a couple more times I have tried to schedule with her but our schedules weren't compatible that day. I have had nothing but excellent communication and service from Lindsey I think she is the wonderful provider.I'm not discounting your experience but I doubt all of these men are conspiring against her and making up the same story. Sounds like they were actually there and walking up to her door and then ghosted out of know here. Not doing anything wrong. It sounds like its her issue if that's the case. Either she is treating this like a dating service and not answering the door if she sees she's not into the person or she gets a bigger bite and ghosts for another client. Both bad business. When it boils down to it this is just a business and they are selling themselves as a product. Just like walking into a restaurant you expect certain type of service / product and if its terrible you aren't going to get any return clients. Also you will get terrible reviews. Just like she gets everywhere.
I'm not discounting your experience but I doubt all of these men are conspiring against her and making up the same story. Sounds like they were actually there and walking up to her door and then ghosted out of know here. Not doing anything wrong. It sounds like its her issue if that's the case. Either she is treating this like a dating service and not answering the door if she sees she's not into the person or she gets a bigger bite and ghosts for another client. Both bad business. When it boils down to it this is just a business and they are selling themselves as a product. Just like walking into a restaurant you expect certain type of service / product and if its terrible you aren't going to get any return clients. Also you will get terrible reviews. Just like she gets everywhere.I have seen some hobbyists that I know to be good guys state that they were ghosted by her and I certainly believe them. I just know that I have had wonderful experiences with her and no problems whatsoever. You state she has bad reviews everywhere but you better check the reviews on EB where there are quite a few of them and most all of them are glowing, positive reports.
I have seen some hobbyists that I know to be good guys state that they were ghosted by her and I certainly believe them. I just know that I have had wonderful experiences with her and no problems whatsoever. You state she has bad reviews everywhere but you better check the reviews on EB where there are quite a few of them and most all of them are glowing, positive reports.I reached out to her when I was I her area which isn't often. Had great conversation nothing explicit. She had an opening in 30 which worked perfectly. She gave addy which is a big apt complex. Waited for her to get ready, then she texts and says her landlord just popped in to fix her door. Told her I can wait a few for him to finish, which I knew this was bullshit. But I was still cool about it. Texted her back in 20. Crickets. Waited another 10 and left. Never heard back from her. I could still be there for all she knows. I'm clean fit and generous. If I find a good regular I stick with it for a while. But she's out.
Hamster4072
07-21-21, 11:04
I have only been disappointed once here, no roaming one time. I have always gotten HE here. On my last visit the lady was mid thirties, cute and fit. That is way younger than myself. Everyone that works here is younger than myself. I guess that is too old for some guys. I get a different girl every time I go here. They won't answer the phone to make an appointment with a certain lady. The massage is always excellent. I give this place two thumbs up. If you like Chinese massage, this is one of the places.
ChrisHansen92
07-21-21, 12:48
As I mentioned in my post some girls like her report and have removed any negative review or comment. Reading Crusty Crawler reviews we seem to have the best providers on the planet.
I have seen some hobbyists that I know to be good guys state that they were ghosted by her and I certainly believe them. I just know that I have had wonderful experiences with her and no problems whatsoever. You state she has bad reviews everywhere but you better check the reviews on EB where there are quite a few of them and most all of them are glowing, positive reports.
I have only been disappointed once here, no roaming one time. I have always gotten HE here. On my last visit the lady was mid thirties, cute and fit. That is way younger than myself. Everyone that works here is younger than myself. I guess that is too old for some guys. I get a different girl every time I go here. They won't answer the phone to make an appointment with a certain lady. The massage is always excellent. I give this place two thumbs up. If you like Chinese massage, this is one of the places.Is this the place near Baxter / Holloway roads?
EssentialGuy
07-21-21, 14:39
Was driving by today and noticed the inviting glow of blinking led lights saying open. Stopped in and Same service as prior visits.
BfJames641
07-21-21, 17:43
Of all the post on her Ghosting from very reliable people on here I would venture to say, very few will take you seriously. Looks like you could have her all to yourself as long as you can bank roll it. Keeping her attention I would think may be a real challenge after your monetarily drained emotionally and physically.Ghosted me twice. I guess I gave her benefit of the doubt once. Won't try a third time.
I stopped by Tokyo and there were 2 cars there. Usually if there are 2 or more I try another spot, but went in anyway. I stick to Osaka and Tokyo just because I love the table shower. Sarah (30's, 40? Large man mades, slim and fit.) came out to meet me wearing a mask, but got rid of it when she took me to the room. Nice hot table shower and a listerine rinse then a good massage. Then started light touch, kissed up my back, hot breath in the ear and kissed my ear and asked what I wanted, then how much I would pay. Decided to try my first FS at a massage place, offered 150. Light kissing on the mouth to start. Mutal kissing on neck and sucking on some nice nipples. She moved down me with kissing and a fair amount of licking the balls before putting on the condom with her mouth. Cowgirl and missionary to finish. Lots of soft moaning for good effect.
Very nice time for this old man.
RogueOne1977
07-21-21, 22:34
I have seen some hobbyists that I know to be good guys state that they were ghosted by her and I certainly believe them. I just know that I have had wonderful experiences with her and no problems whatsoever. You state she has bad reviews everywhere but you better check the reviews on EB where there are quite a few of them and most all of them are glowing, positive reports.That's because she has them deleted. I've literally seen many reviews that were on EB about her ghosting and then suddenly they were deleted. These girls can report the post and have it erased. I don't care if she sees people and they have a good time. If that's the case then there is no reason to ghost. Just because you or anyone else saw her doesn't discount the fact that she screws other people over for no reason. These girls can report the post and have it erased.
RogueOne1977
07-21-21, 22:36
As I mentioned in my post some girls like her report and have removed any negative review or comment. Reading Crusty Crawler reviews we seem to have the best providers on the planet.Absolutely. I've had reviews removed after a bad experience before. Its dangerous for them to do that. There is a reason they have boards. So we can report if there is a good or bad experience. What's the point if the bad ones just get tossed out?
Was driving by today and noticed the inviting glow of blinking led lights saying open. Stopped in and Same service as prior visits.This is glorious news! Is it the same staff as before or new talent?
Is this the place near Baxter / Holloway roads?Just east of there. Next to Domino's. Don't park in front of Domino's.
GurLuver71
07-22-21, 14:15
Hello gents,
I have been travelling extensively for a few months and have not be around the Lou. It seems Jenny has fallen off the radar. I was at the least a simi regular and enjoyed seeing her. She has not been advertising and does not respond to messages. Any information would be much appreciated.She just posted an ad on Rubratings today.
Etaoin2003
07-22-21, 16:05
I stick to Osaka and Tokyo just because I love the table shower. Is that included in the house fee? What is an appropriate donation for HJ? I don't want to distort the market. And I'm not up for FS.
Today's Rubratings advertisement states the following:
" There will be options starting at 175, a middle option at 215, and lastly, 285.These options are the same as before. ".
Can someone explain this?
She just posted an ad on Rubratings today.Jenny said she rarely advertises now because she is staying pretty busy with regulars and the ads cost money. So just because you don't see an ad doesn't mean she isn't working.
Steven Hyde
07-22-21, 20:40
Is that included in the house fee? What is an appropriate donation for HJ? I don't want to distort the market. And I'm not up for FS.I wouldn't go to Centerville for a HJ. The places there are pretty much FS establishments. That said, the standard for a HJ anywhere is 40 tip on top of your 60 door fee.
Today's Rubratings advertisement states the following:
" There will be options starting at 175, a middle option at 215, and lastly, 285.These options are the same as before. ".
Can someone explain this?HJ, full nude, and FS in that order.
I have seen her at least three times. At least a couple more times I have tried to schedule with her but our schedules weren't compatible that day. I have had nothing but excellent communication and service from Lindsey I think she is the wonderful provider.Gave her a try last year, mainly because she is so close to home, got ghosted 30 min before appointment. 1 and done.
Took my $ elsewhere to someone that appreciates it.
EssentialGuy
07-23-21, 14:36
This is glorious news! Is it the same staff as before or new talent?I saw a few different times they turned over staff. Was just the older lady working when I went. I am sure they will get some new help as I bet they will be busy in no time at all.
There was a younger gal with beautiful eyes, always had mascara that came to a point at the edges of her eyes like younger girls do. She didn't look Chinese or Korean but had black straight hair and tan skin. Mam would be nice if she showed up again. Gave a great massage and nice hand shake at the end.
I'm going to be trying my first AMP in Centerville. I'm looking specially FS. Anyone know what would the cost be for a FS massage?
I'm going to be trying my first AMP in Centerville. I'm looking specially FS. Anyone know what would the cost be for a FS massage?200 bones.
WoodenRabbit19
07-24-21, 08:08
I'm going to be trying my first AMP in Centerville. I'm looking specially FS. Anyone know what would the cost be for a FS massage?Searching the forums for Tokyo and Fuji will return a lot of good information. I think you are looking at 60 for the house fee and a top of 140. That's from my experience and what I've seen on the forums. There may be a 30 minute option for less money, but not certain.
WR.
I hadn't been to Centreville for awhile so decided to check out the talent at Osaka. The mamasan told me she had a very beautiful lady and handed me off to Cici, who looked like she was smoking hot under that dress (and she was). Now, keep in mind these ladies are all probably 40+, it's hard to tell with the Asian women. But she was cute and friendly and the body didn't disappoint. Went to one of the rooms, gave her 40 house fee for half hour massage. Got naked, covered up with a towel and went to the table shower room, where she thoroughly cleaned me front and back with plenty of attention for mr happy. She dried me off, and we went back to the room. She asked if I wanted "everything" so I said sure. She agreed to 140 tip (which is standard for FS) and we got the party started. Her man mades are well done, she has a hairy Bush (which I enjoy), and thin hips. Activities included some rimming, an OK BBBJ, then CFS in a variety of positions. YMMV depending on whether the lady likes you. Cleaned up, got my bottle of water and I was on my way. Great visit, I'll be back again sometime.
Etaoin2003
07-24-21, 12:28
I wouldn't go to Centerville for a HJ. The places there are pretty much FS establishments. That said, the standard for a HJ anywhere is 40 tip on top of your 60 door fee.Was hoping for the table shower. There are some good options in Marion IL, but they don't have table showers as far as I know.
Eventually heading for southern Mo, but that's as barren as the moon. Any STL recommendations? I have read the forum but it seems to be dominated by talk about ghosting escorts, not massage parlors.
Is that included in the house fee? What is an appropriate donation for HJ? I don't want to distort the market. And I'm not up for FS.I try to drop in when I am in Illinois about once a month. I get the hour for $60 and start with the table shower, which is included. Last time was the first time getting FS. This probably doesn't affect you but is something that has stopped any unsatisfying trips. For me. I am older and take medication that sometimes makes it difficult to finish. So I get the finish after the shower and then the massage and there is never any problem.
Some of the sexier ladies will ask for as much as $70 for a hand job, but if you pay the experience is better. I usually offer $50 before pricing is mentioned, but that's me. Some will take the $40. The deal is generally made after the table shower, but they will take the money at the beginning if offered.
The table shower is their chance to inspect you and look for signs of infection as well as well as make sure your fresh for a BJ. The ones that push harder for FS often tease more as an audition / foreplay during the tableshower.
HentaiNerd
07-25-21, 09:36
Anyone know of any establishments with younger women giving massages, closer to their 30's than to their 50's?
I know a lot of dudes here can't tell Asian women ages super well, so if you are the type and think you've found an establishment with people in their 20's hit me up.
I'm also into big natural boobs, so if anyone has any leads on that, I'd much appreciate that.
So far I've been to a few Centreville establishments, so I don't mind traveling around that far.
OhioSteve513
07-25-21, 21:42
Is this the place near Baxter / Holloway roads?Saturday got what was probably the best massage I've ever had anywhere at Classic on Clayton Rd.
Thatsawinner
07-26-21, 11:20
Any information on Ell at Angels? Curious between her and Elsa.
TBoner1979
07-26-21, 11:29
https://sensualscarlett.com
I generally like to remain private and didn't think I would ever feel the need to review or comment about any provider. However, this one is special! Scarlett is super sexy and intelligent. She was so welcoming, loves to have good conversation and yes, she is Sensual. Her home is well kept, in a good neighborhood with easy parking. During my session with her, I never once felt uncomfortable or like she was in any hurry. It was all about her and I. There was a nice mix of very great massage and fun time. I'm not going elaborate on extras. Everything you need to know is on her website. Let me just say, Scarlett gets it. She is definitely worth the extra money. The screening questions are not a big deal. It's all about being safe. After I completed the questions, she made the appointment process really easy. Be a gentleman, treat her with respect and she will take great good care of you.
HardKnock30
07-26-21, 11:33
Went to Panda today and waited 23 minutes in the room and no one came in so got my money back and left. Only one lady working.
Bob Jakkson
07-26-21, 12:10
Damn, I thought those places had like a dial-a-tuggirl batphone system to deal with rush hour LOL.
Went to Panda today and waited 23 minutes in the room and no one came in so got my money back and left. Only one lady working.
Any information on Ell at Angels? Curious between her and Elsa.Elsa is a young all natural stacked bombshell. In my own experience with Elsa, once we decided on which services I wanted she went full throttle. She is either really into her job or is faking it really well. I will definitely see her again as my budget allows. Ell is a young petite spinner. I saw her once a while ago and she was a GPS princess. She barely put a minimum of effort and seemed disinterested. I came prepared for an upgrade to FS but based on her attitude I sense that I would be wasting money on a dead fish and feel rushed. I left my visit with Ell "unsatisfied" and will not repeat. I read other reviews of Ell that also mention her GPS princess attitude. I wonder if Ell has regulars that she is not GPS with because I can't imagine she is making a good living seeing every guy just once. I know that she left the Angels for the other group and then came back a few months later. Maybe someone on this board can tell us if Ell stepped her game up when she rejoined.
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