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Good morning, I'm taking private messages from trusted senior members, if anybody is looking for someone safe in the Montgomery ville area, my good friend I've known for years is around. Short, petite, Asian girl very open minded massages. Not a pro, but in need of the holiday spirit. PM me, so I can review posts. Thanks.
UrTexasBiker
12-15-19, 12:06
Visiting here and this one contacted me, pretty direct, any info?
https://www.seeking.com/member/a1b74...7-8197b620e716
Visiting here and this one contacted me, pretty direct, any info?
https://www.seeking.com/member/a1b74...7-8197b620e716Link is behind a paywall.
Link is behind a paywall.Is there any way to contact SBs on this site without paying?
Rubber Ducky Boston
12-18-19, 13:18
Is there any way to contact SBs on this site without paying?I don't think so. But you can minimize the amount you pay by scouting out options before paying, then paying for a short membership and reaching out to everyone all at once, and then cancelling membership after you've reached out to everyone. Rinse and repeat a couple times a year.
These apps are the way to go. There are a few providers and handlers who think these apps that have "internet numbers" are not secure. But Tracphones and other phones from stores are just as secure or insecure. You don't know who it is without some sort of verification, no matter where the number is from. There are web sites where you can enter a phone number and they'll tell you if it's a Google Voice number, Pinger number, etc. But it's a poor way to screen.
You can also use an app like Pinger or Whats App. They give you a fake number you can text from and, at least with Pinger, make limited calls. I use Pinger, turned off all notifications and buried it in an iPhone folder of "unused" apps.
Trusted members please message privately Only if a gb is something of interest. If you don't have a strong posting history, Please don't message.
Trusted members please message privately Only if a gb is something of interest. If you don't have a strong posting history, Please don't message.Overwhelming interest. Will report back after.
Overwhelming interest. Will report back after.Feel free to reach out if interested via PM.
Feel free to reach out if interested via PM.So did this go down last night? Report?
So did this go down last night? Report?Lots of interest but no takers.
TotalAssman68
01-25-20, 18:23
Any chance you are going to reset for another date?
Lots of interest but no takers.
Michael Doe
01-25-20, 19:10
I had the chance to come to Philly once before and have spoken of the time I had here to many! You guys have a SW scene that is beyond words compared to everywhere else I've ever been short of Vegas. I'm in a position that Have to come here a few times this year and would love to have any tips or tricks you guys use in your area that might hlep a southern boy from out of town. I'll hit the K ave, but if you know somewhere or someone else I should try please let me know. I'll do the solid of reporting on any and all encounters I have in your cool ass city. I dig redheads, the real kind copper hair or fire red punk. I like spinners or thick girls. Not too much into the bbw thing. I love women, anyone that has a cool attitude and has something cool about them.
I'm here now as a matter of fact. I flew in and had arrangements made for Neicy (sp?) to be ready when I landed so I could get a few things worked out. I hate flying, it's so stressful. She was ready when I hit the ground and asked if I would be interested in a two girl appointment. I have a horrible time saying no to things like that so, I agreed. Neicy is a full figured light skinned black girl. She's cute with GINOROMOUS huge beautiful boobs. I was totally into just playing with them. I can't remember her friends name, but she was shorter, rounder and much blacker. I don't usually play with black girls, but I don't discriminate either. Her boobs were much perkier and fun to play with. Both girls laughed and were in a good mood. 200 total for the hh with both was very fair I thought. No greek from either and they don't really play with each other. It was a fun time right after a flight and I highly recommend. Hotel was shit. Almost scary.
http://philadelphia.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/exotic/brandy-come-fuck-my-tight-puss/905585043474
If you hit my area for some crazy reason PM me and I'll give you the lay of the land there.
Doe.
MagicMike911
01-29-20, 21:52
Hey Guys, I'm nervous about this virus coming out of China! Are we safe? No disrespect to the girls but I'm hesitant about the Spas.
JohnJohnMD
01-31-20, 12:31
Hey Guys, I'm nervous about this virus coming out of China! Are we safe? No disrespect to the girls but I'm hesitant about the Spas.This is why you stay with Korean Spas only. Avoid the Chinese Spas to avoid the Virus. LOL. I'll Stay with 9 VIP to stay safe and pleased.
ShivaSkunk
01-31-20, 12:49
Hey Guys, I'm nervous about this virus coming out of China! Are we safe? No disrespect to the girls but I'm hesitant about the Spas.So you're worried about coronavirus which is blamed for 7,000 illnesses and 170 deaths. That's nothing compared to the flu. From page 2 of today's Philadelphia Inquirer; "Influenza (the flu) has already sickened 13 MILLION Americans this winter, hospitalizing 120,000 and killing 6,600 according to the CDC. And the flu season hasn't even peaked. In a bad year the flu kills up to 61,000 Americans. " Have you gotten a flu shot yet, it's not too late, and we all have a much higher chance of getting the flu (and dying) than we have of getting coronavirus.
So you're worried about coronavirus which is blamed for 7,000 illnesses and 170 deaths. That's nothing compared to the flu. From page 2 of today's Philadelphia Inquirer; "Influenza (the flu) has already sickened 13 MILLION Americans this winter, hospitalizing 120,000 and killing 6,600 according to the CDC. And the flu season hasn't even peaked. In a bad year the flu kills up to 61,000 Americans. " Have you gotten a flu shot yet, it's not too late, and we all have a much higher chance of getting the flu (and dying) than we have of getting coronavirus.Thank you, sir.
Exactly what I was thinking but don't have the patience to type it out.
I'm also more worried about getting shot on the streets of Philly than some carona, tequila or dos seqi virus that is convenient for anti China propaganda.
So you're worried about coronavirus which is blamed for 7,000 illnesses and 170 deaths. That's nothing compared to the flu. From page 2 of today's Philadelphia Inquirer; "Influenza (the flu) has already sickened 13 MILLION Americans this winter, hospitalizing 120,000 and killing 6,600 according to the CDC. And the flu season hasn't even peaked. In a bad year the flu kills up to 61,000 Americans. " Have you gotten a flu shot yet, it's not too late, and we all have a much higher chance of getting the flu (and dying) than we have of getting coronavirus.http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=561042&stc=1&d=1580502681
One of my favorite utrs did an incredible job earlier this month in a dp session with me and another board member. I'm betting another session is an option with the right team in place. Feel free to pm if interested. BTW, it ain't cheap, but it's worth it! Weekday mornings are best.
One of my favorite utrs did an incredible job earlier this month in a dp session with me and another board member. I'm betting another session is an option with the right team in place. Feel free to pm if interested. BTW, it ain't cheap, but it's worth it! Weekday mornings are best.Putting this back out there in case anyone is interested. Seniors or regulars with a posting history only please. Ty.
Already have a couple guys lined up. Tomorrow night at 7 sharp. Please only reply if you are down and available on PM. Very pretty friend.
Have an attractive lady friend who is interested in doing a gloryhole. Any suggestions?
Have an attractive lady friend who is interested in doing a gloryhole. Any suggestions?A large bottle of Lysol Wipes?
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LeoTheRoofer
04-04-20, 16:11
It seems now that the quality of girls that are available online are actually escort drivers like Pablo and Henry and a few others posting the ads and using numerous virtual telephone numbers like "pinger" "textnow" and other apps in a feeble attempt to market $20 girls for $200. Hey I get it, but I don't play it that way. As I work hard for My dollars.
If a girl says, "I'm in a bad cell area" or "I'm going to run out of minutes" or other excuses, to avoid talking to you, well it's a 99% chance you're are texting a handler / driver or anybody but the escort / girl herself.
Before the feds crackdown there were several reputable agencies that would connect you directly to the girl, case in point Loveable Ladies, I miss Sara and Ginger so Much. Or Full Moon They had the "A" Team.
Long story short from a veteran hobbyist, If they avoid speaking immediately or won't text fresh photos they are the bottom of the barrel and most likely not even a female.
Or if they say "Incall only, this is a suckers bet for being robbed.
Like the PSA says, Bet with your head, not with your head stuck up your arse. Happy Hobbying!!
I finally get a date with the girlfriend of one of my favorite utrs. She is around the game with the people she hangs out with but seemed afraid to actually do the deed. Finally I get a text asking if I'd be able to pick her up. Very pretty mid twenties asian looking girl. Turns out to be a pretty excellent provider. She asked if I knew any younger guys who she could see. If you feel like you are "younger", pm me gents.
Rubber Ducky Boston
04-07-20, 16:48
I finally get a date with the girlfriend of one of my favorite utrs. She is around the game with the people she hangs out with but seemed afraid to actually do the deed. Finally I get a text asking if I'd be able to pick her up. Very pretty mid twenties asian looking girl. Turns out to be a pretty excellent provider. She asked if I knew any younger guys who she could see. If you feel like you are "younger", pm me gents.Got any pics by any chance?
RockHardy2020
04-10-20, 22:32
I finally get a date with the girlfriend of one of my favorite utrs. She is around the game with the people she hangs out with but seemed afraid to actually do the deed. Finally I get a text asking if I'd be able to pick her up. Very pretty mid twenties asian looking girl. Turns out to be a pretty excellent provider. She asked if I knew any younger guys who she could see. If you feel like you are "younger", pm me gents.I'm 50 with a lot of young money.
Question for those of us that spend $100 plus a week on our "hobby / entertainment. " What are you going to do when things go back normal? I was thinking of going on a vacation somewhere I can release. Or maybe a new TV. I don't know.
Turnpike Mike
04-17-20, 21:34
Question for those of us that spend $100 plus a week on our "hobby / entertainment. " What are you going to do when things go back normal? I was thinking of going on a vacation somewhere I can release. Or maybe a new TV. I don't know.Colombia or Costa Rica.
ActionMan609
04-21-20, 07:31
Colombia or Costa Rica.Bogota is insane. The quality is very high and the prices very low. Highly recommend.
Forth Ryte
04-22-20, 15:30
What surprises me is that no one has reported generally what the street scene looks line during this Social Distancing. Are girls out wearing masks? Are they out at all or are they just as ready to climb into any car that stops? Streets on all the big cities are empty. Is the K a ghost town? I haven't cruised in a couple of months and can't wait to get down there again.
-- Forth Ryte.
What surprises me is that no one has reported generally what the street scene looks line during this Social Distancing. Are girls out wearing masks? Are they out at all or are they just as ready to climb into any car that stops? Streets on all the big cities are empty. Is the K a ghost town? I haven't cruised in a couple of months and can't wait to get down there again.
-- Forth Ryte.Since the beginning (March 11th or so), I have been a model citizen by staying home and going out to the grocery store on a limited basis (once every two weeks) always wearing masks and gloves. But I couldn't take it any more so I used a minor excuse to get in the car to deliver a package in South Philly that I just as easily could have mailed just to check out K Avenue in the middle of a pandemic.
I should say upfront that its rare for me to cruise in between the hours of 9 AM to 5 PM because I used to be working during that timeframe so what I saw on K Avenue today, I have nothing to compare it to. But what I saw wasn't pretty. I took one lap on my way to South Philly (around 1:30) and another on my way back (3 PM). If you are expecting bustling commerce, that ain't happening. 3 or 4 Zombies, the kind that you wouldn't even let in your car much less touch your dick, one or two fuglies, those plain ugly, mostly fat girls that make it a challenge to even achieve a hard on, and then just one passable SW (one for each trip thru) but I did not partake. I had to laugh, I slowed down to check her out and she obliged me by pulling down her face mask to so I could evaluate whether I wanted to scoop. I take that as post Covid 19 etiquette for SW's. But what's the point of wearing the mask on the sidewalk if you have to remove it to ply your trade within 6 feet (unless the guy is Huge or Johnny Holmes) required for social distancing.
But if you think the current state of the underground economy is hurting and the street corners are bustling with 2 or 3 SW's and a couple of amature ex-waitresses scrambling to pay the rent (which is what I was expecting), you would be wrong. Very slim pickings and an eerie silence covers the Avenue. Get used to it boys, when the quarantine is lifted, it might be awhile before anything returns to any variation of normal. My guess is it will take a longer time than we all expect.
Confused2004
04-23-20, 01:32
But if you think the current state of the underground economy is hurting and the street corners are bustling with 2 or 3 SW's and a couple of amature ex-waitresses scrambling to pay the rent (which is what I was expecting), you would be wrong. Very slim pickings and an eerie silence covers the Avenue. Get used to it boys, when the quarantine is lifted, it might be awhile before anything returns to any variation of normal. My guess is it will take a longer time than we all expect.It's bustling alright, but just not SW bustling. I was out a couple of days ago during day time and was surprised at how many people were on the K. It's almost the same as pre-pandemic. I was so scare of catching Covid that I only did 1/4 of the scroll and went home. If this is how Philly social distancing, then expect lock down for a long time.
I finally get a date with the girlfriend of one of my favorite utrs. She is around the game with the people she hangs out with but seemed afraid to actually do the deed. Finally I get a text asking if I'd be able to pick her up. Very pretty mid twenties asian looking girl. Turns out to be a pretty excellent provider. She asked if I knew any younger guys who she could see. If you feel like you are "younger", pm me gents.The young bucks who gave this a shot seemed to have a good time. Next weekend there might be an opportunity for a gb for the same guys. I didn't have time to pm but if you are younger and up for it pm me.
MaximusCut
04-26-20, 10:33
It's bustling alright, but just not SW bustling. I was out a couple of days ago during day time and was surprised at how many people were on the K. It's almost the same as pre-pandemic. I was so scare of catching Covid that I only did 1/4 of the scroll and went home. If this is how Philly social distancing, then expect lock down for a long time.A friend of mine who lives right across the Ave tells me if the lock down extends any further, the locals at ave might actually start opening in protest. Everyone is hurting there.
A friend of mine who lives right across the Ave tells me if the lock down extends any further, the locals at ave might actually start opening in protest. Everyone is hurting there.Some places have never really closed or they're open to people in the know. I'm not telling but there is a barbershop cutting hair via the back of the shop.
In another part of the city I needed some "tools" and was able to walk in and buy what I needed even though the place is supposed to be closed and it looked closed when you drive by.
I'm adhering to the quarantine as best as I can but other people have kids to feed or they worked under the table for years or owe child support so they're not getting any stimulus money or unemployment so I understand that they need to do what they got to do.
The young bucks who gave this a shot seemed to have a good time. Next weekend there might be an opportunity for a gb for the same guys. I didn't have time to pm but if you are younger and up for it pm me.1 spot left.
Member #6644
04-30-20, 02:24
Anyone know the name of the username who be posting videos on online. I think it was on xvideos. He's from the area mainly in Jersey. Mostly video he made with car dates that he picks up. I think he was Spanish because all the related videos was in Spanish.
BlueJjeeper
04-30-20, 21:54
I have seen an increase in the number of ads where the provider says she doesn't accept cash, just CashApp or PayPal. The ads and the girls seem legitimate. The pictures are nice but not obviously professional. They claim to be at local locations common for the business and have local phone numbers. The carry on extended text conversations.
So are these really scams, trying to get a cash transfer prior to a visit then ghosting? Or are they legitimate providers who don't want to be seen as targets for thefts?
Any thoughts?
I have seen an increase in the number of ads where the provider says she doesn't accept cash, just CashApp or PayPal. The ads and the girls seem legitimate. The pictures are nice but not obviously professional. They claim to be at local locations common for the business and have local phone numbers. The carry on extended text conversations.
So are these really scams, trying to get a cash transfer prior to a visit then ghosting? Or are they legitimate providers who don't want to be seen as targets for thefts?
Any thoughts?Who knows if the girls are real or who cares?
The question I have is, do you want to give a girl or a potential scammer your real name? Best I can tell there is no way to set up CAshApp or PayPal using a moniker or anonymous name.
Years ago there were CL posts and when you responded with your name or phone number they made that Google searchable with a link to the advert you replied to and the salacious statements in your reply. Nice stuff for a GF, SO or employer to find. So if you want to take the risk, go ahead and use CashApp and PayPal to pay prostitutes. It is your choice.
I have seen an increase in the number of ads where the provider says she doesn't accept cash, just CashApp or PayPal. The ads and the girls seem legitimate. The pictures are nice but not obviously professional. They claim to be at local locations common for the business and have local phone numbers. The carry on extended text conversations.
So are these really scams, trying to get a cash transfer prior to a visit then ghosting? Or are they legitimate providers who don't want to be seen as targets for thefts?
Any thoughts?Interesting you asked this question. Lets be realistic about the adds. Your money has left your account and is happily on its way to do what you yourself asked it to do. Go into somebody else account. That account likely will be closed by the time you find out something is not going the way you planned. It's going to somebody you can't really be certain is a man or a woman. Somebody you most likely have never met. Think about that for a moment. Is that a reasonable thing to do or is it a little on the foolish side?
Now lets be sensible at this point. I'll ask you one question here. That question is as follows. Who's in control of the situation now your funds have changed hands? I think you know the answer.
You need to set your own rules. Once you have done that then follow them. That my friend in a nutshell is called common sense.
Not many people know this so I'm going to share a secret. Escorts, hookers, prostitutes and others in that line of work are not the most honest people you may encounter day to day. They all have some type of drama going on. Could be a pimp, drugs, abusive boyfriend. That's assuming the online ad is a woman.
With what is going on in the world currently they will do anything and everything to separate you from what cash you may have. You never make any deals that involves you losing control of your funds before you get what you are buying. You wouldn't think of paying your mechanic before they do the work. So why pay any other business for something you don't have. I hope this answers your question. Remember part of being safe is being in control of a given situation. So be safe.
Here is the best advice I can offer you about releasing your funds before you get what you are paying for. Assume every contact you make in this game is out to screw you over. That way you maintain constant control. Me, I'm just an 'OL Gator.
Interesting you asked this question. Lets be realistic about the adds. Your money has left your account and is happily on its way to do what you yourself asked it to do. Go into somebody else account. That account likely will be closed by the time you find out something is not going the way you planned. It's going to somebody you can't really be certain is a man or a woman. Somebody you most likely have never met. Think about that for a moment. Is that a reasonable thing to do or is it a little on the foolish side?
Now lets be sensible at this point. I'll ask you one question here. That question is as follows. Who's in control of the situation now your funds have changed hands? I think you know the answer.
You need to set your own rules. Once you have done that then follow them. That my friend in a nutshell is called common sense.
Not many people know this so I'm going to share a secret. Escorts, hookers, prostitutes and others in that line of work are not the most honest people you may encounter day to day. They all have some type of drama going on. Could be a pimp, drugs, abusive boyfriend. That's assuming the online ad is a woman.
With what is going on in the world currently they will do anything and everything to separate you from what cash you may have. You never make any deals that involves you losing control of your funds before you get what you are buying. You wouldn't think of paying your mechanic before they do the work. So why pay any other business for something you don't have. I hope this answers your question. Remember part of being safe is being in control of a given situation. So be safe.
Here is the best advice I can offer you about releasing your funds before you get what you are paying for. Assume every contact you make in this game is out to screw you over. That way you maintain constant control. Me, I'm just an 'OL Gator.I Agree with that 100% never let's go of your cash in one hand until you have what you want in the other.
Confused2004
05-01-20, 12:05
I have seen an increase in the number of ads where the provider says she doesn't accept cash, just CashApp or PayPal. The ads and the girls seem legitimate. The pictures are nice but not obviously professional. They claim to be at local locations common for the business and have local phone numbers. The carry on extended text conversations.
So are these really scams, trying to get a cash transfer prior to a visit then ghosting? Or are they legitimate providers who don't want to be seen as targets for thefts?
Any thoughts?My rule #1 is only pay in person. This also includes never pay for ride share to bring her over. If you violate this rule, 99.99999999% of time you will not see the girl.
A cute provider asked if I knew any guys interested in a party. The plan would be to give it a shot this weekend. Pm me if you like tagging a hot girl with a few good friends.
A cute provider asked if I knew any guys interested in a party. The plan would be to give it a shot this weekend. Pm me if you like tagging a hot girl with a few good friends.Any chance of seeing what they look like?
A cute provider asked if I knew any guys interested in a party. The plan would be to give it a shot this weekend. Pm me if you like tagging a hot girl with a few good friends.Pm if interested.
Anyone know the name of the username who be posting videos on online. I think it was on xvideos. He's from the area mainly in Jersey. Mostly video he made with car dates that he picks up. I think he was Spanish because all the related videos was in Spanish.I think there's about a dozen guys guys posting videos. Not all that hard to find on either PornHub or Xvideos. Search "Philadelphia" "Philly" "215" "Camden" "Kensington" and "Kenso. " In terms of usernames on PH: bufflekill, phillythots19131, freakguy215, exposingphilly, driventobemybest, Northphillychosen1, Riteback286, Philly2034, Kushmonster810, Philly58. And I have some private videos under Lberkey. I also have a Philly playlist on PH if it helps you find the vid.
Saturday afternoon 2 girls and a few of us. PM if serious.
This quarantine is winding down and things are starting to open officially. (I have called a massage place and was told to make an appointment). Some of us have contact with a lady or two in one of these businesses. Have they told any of you what they were doing for the last few months? I don't want to call the ones I know since I know they will ask for money in some way.
Forth Ryte
06-08-20, 12:46
This quarantine is winding down and things are starting to open officially. .Are you only asking about escorts or SW on the K? Can anyone tell us if its worth going to the K yet?
--Forth Ryte.
I heard a mention of the site going down via the Feds but it was still working for me earlier today. Just tried going on with no luck and did a Google search and found this from 3 hours ago. Sucks cause this was a good site for the massage parlors.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/backpage-replacement-cityxguide-taken-down-federal-prosecutors/
I heard a mention of the site going down via the Feds but it was still working for me earlier today. Just tried going on with no luck and did a Google search and found this from 3 hours ago. Sucks cause this was a good site for the massage parlors.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/backpage-replacement-cityxguide-taken-down-federal-prosecutors/Many other sites besides city guide which are better in my opinion. When one falls more will take its place. Reminds me of sites for downloading music for free many years ago and today you can still do that. Thanks for info though. Couldn't believe how much it said be made in money. Should be able to get a good attorney.
Chimera422
07-10-20, 13:56
Only works when searching outside of USA.
Only works when searching outside of USA.Or that I was using TOR. Sites have been getting hostile to TOR because of all the malicious traffic.
Makes it difficult for us "Honest Joes" who just want privacy.
On a related note, I haven't been able to get to Megapersonals or usaadultclassified either. For several weeks now.
Or that I was using TOR. Sites have been getting hostile to TOR because of all the malicious traffic.
Makes it difficult for us "Honest Joes" who just want privacy.
On a related note, I haven't been able to get to Megapersonals or usaadultclassified either. For several weeks now.Megapersonals had the same or paired down content as Listcrawler/Escort Babylon so likely a sister site. Backpage.co was the same content as CXG and it was seized too.
Per the yellow banner on this website, looks like the server for usaadultclassified.nl burned up and they are working with the host to reboot.
Not clear if certain sites are down voluntarily in response to the CXG seizure or there was a spate of tech issues? But those that are 'gone' appear to be gone no matter what browser one uses.
Listcrawler.com and the other sites that where recently down or experiencing problems are now back up and running.
WillieZee914
07-18-20, 04:07
https://callescort.org/u/Hannhuber
https://callescort.org/u/HannhuberWhy would you care? With THAT many negative reviews posts, either she / it (profiles says gender MALE!) pizzed off tens of dudes or one wacko is creating a bunch of drama with numerous posts from numerous numbers?
There are many fish in th sea, why chase something that is potentially dangerous or has drama swirling around her / it. When I see BUNCH of drama I just click NEXT and move on. Why waste my time playing Jr detective or trying to fit a square peg in a round hole?
But you never know, might just be a great date? Why don't you Take One For The Team (TOFTT) and report back to us?
Why would you care? With THAT many negative reviews posts, either she / it (profiles says gender MALE!) pizzed off tens of dudes or one wacko is creating a bunch of drama with numerous posts from numerous numbers?
There are many fish in th sea, why chase something that is potentially dangerous or has drama swirling around her / it. When I see BUNCH of drama I just click NEXT and move on. Why waste my time playing Jr detective or trying to fit a square peg in a round hole?
But you never know, might just be a great date? Why don't you Take One For The Team (TOFTT) and report back to us?This is a hobby where you don't want to cry or even worse die. At the end of the day, you just want to be a happy guy.
This is a hobby where you don't want to cry or even worse die. At the end of the day, you just want to be a happy guy.And maybe post a rhyme or two.
To be fair on all fronts this is by no means a judgement call or finger pointing. It is meant for informative purposes only. By all standards it's a tug on the coattail. Some thoughts on safety and thinking past the bulge in the pants. Long term.
Lets all keep in mind we don't deal with the most respectable group of individuals on this planet. With that thought ever present we don't want to be a target for get rich quick schemes. I can't count the times people have told me they have been threatened with lawsuits over photos that's both posted and those taken innocently. Here's a couple examples.
http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=583758
http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=577335
Off and on, photos / videos appear here that are of people in various state of undress while sleeping or in some cases just passed out in rather compromising or questionable situations. We've all seen them. What's a guy to do?
The following link is not to imply anything did or didn't happen. No matter what or how the incident took place, the end result is not very attractive all around. I came across the link and wondered how many individuals here may have found or will find themselves in a similar situation.
I didn't gather from the article the woman to be a working girl. Yet the circumstances involved appear to be very relevant.
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/filmed-naked-stranger-without-consent-093250172.html.
It's important to read and comprehend the rules on the site here. Understand the consequences for any actions connected with this playground. That includes legal and moral.
We need to always be thinking ahead. Constantly wondering what's the worst that can happen? What can go wrong with everything we do relating to the game? Is this girl trustworthy? Should she be watched closely? Of course, by all means.
She has good / bad / no reviews. Has good reviews? Great! From who? A reliable source? That's also important. It's easier than ever in today's tech world to place any review a poster would like to reflect the end results they may be looking for.
Always be prepared for the worst with every meeting and every action. Remember when dealing with those that are involved in illegal activities, those people don't pick and choose which activities to visit on you. Most are opportunists. Ultimately you become the perfect target for almost anything that can put any more than $2. 00 in their pockets. The passive target. The target that is reluctant to file complaints.
As the target, one may want to keep things quiet. So that opens the door to extortion.
Taking action after the fact is not the sensible thing to do. Understanding the pitfalls is the sensible thing. Preparing for the worst before it happens is more sensible. Be proactive. Anticipate the problem before it presents itself.
As for the attached link about the non consensual photos, my advice is this. If you are taking photos of any kind, be sure your ass is covered. Try and get the subject to indicate their consent either by holding a sign, a thumbs up or some other indication that she's ok with and giving you permission with regards to taking the pics. There are plenty of free release forms online for all you wannabe photographers. You of course want to claim and retain ownership to all rights of any photos you may take. Otherwise you could end up in the wrong seat in a court room.
The most damning photos around are those where the subject appears unaware of what is taking place. Or even unhappy about the circumstances taking place.
The wrong approach to any photos you may take could cost you big time down the road.
I'm sure there are a number of people right here on this board that can relate horror stories of innocent "Photo sessions" that came back to bite them in the ass.
I would be interested in any mongers' views both pro and con on photo posting. Please share what you can offer on the subject. Me, I'm just an 'OL Gator.
Gator, I read (another city, can't recall but here on USASG) about a guy who got busted by his kids, completely by accident. He hadn't realized that his pictures were being backed up in a cloud account. Several years later, after deleting them and forgetting about them, for some reason his kid was helping him back up phone contacts and downloaded old photos as well. Cat was out of the bag.
I have systematically scrubbed every shred of evidence since then, just not with the risk.
I would be interested in any mongers' views both pro and con on photo posting. Please share what you can offer on the subject. Me, I'm just an 'OL Gator.Perhaps this is a pretty simple issue? Could it be about nothing more than respect? If you respect the girl, or women in general, seems like one would ask if it is OK to photograph them AND if one is so inclined to post, ask the girl if it is OK to post her pictures on line and then respect her wishes either way. Seems like the best approach could be an upfront and honest approach as to what one is doing: taking photos to post on social media. That is opposed to just saying something like, "I might share them with a few friends!" and then post them online.
Many dudes figure that these girls are drug addicts with no knowledge or resources to combat their photos being posted. So they take advantage of them. That is until one screws over a girl who happens to be the relative of a person of means or power. THEN one can find serious troubles.
For most people the internal moral compass should guide you do the right thing.
I'm sure there are a number of people right here on this board that can relate horror stories of innocent "Photo sessions" that came back to bite them in the ass.
I would be interested in any mongers' views both pro and con on photo posting. Please share what you can offer on the subject. Me, I'm just an 'OL Gator.From 2018 and forward I see no benefit in posting pictures due to FOSTA-SESTA. No reason to get yourself into a major jam for a few virtual hi fives from a bunch of blokes who you don't even know.
Due to the new laws I use this website to avoid: 1. Scammers 2. Thieves 3. Providers spreading stds 4. Clockwatchers. 5. Providers with handlers or in bad situations. 6. LE stings.
I have no problem reporting a scam to help fellow mongers avoid a bad date. If we all do that the rest that is left should be gtg. Unfortunately the old days of Craigslist / BP and posting about it the next day fun is over because LE in this country is so hell bent on criminalizing the whole and not going after the small true criminal element that makes us all look bad.
And you're right about how you never know what girl you're with and who she could be connected to. I know two well known girls on the ave who have direct ties to LE. One has a brother who is with the f bee eye and they know she is out there and aren't happy about it at all.
That said, the only pics that I like and are safe are CookyJar pics. It's art / legal erotic photography.
I don't mean to be a dick (especially since I recently got a demerit here) but if you DM me looking for info and I see you've only posted a few times and all of those posts are (wait for it) requests for info I'm not going to respond. I'm not the biggest expert here by a long shot but I've learned a lot from this forum. I've also tried to contribute as much as I can (I even got cut off from an really hot young escort b / c she figured out I had posted about her (even though it wasn't negative). It's whole purpose is sharing info to help the participants get laid. If you don't ever share, you're not contributing to the very point of the forum.
Anyway, share! Even if it's a bad experience or an experience that others have shared.
(I can't believe I'm posting a PSA on a monger board. Heh).
ButtBustNut
09-25-20, 21:58
Posting for the first time. I tend to keep an eye out for Utrs and I have one who's very pretty. She's tall, slim and athletic. She asked if I'd give her number out. Please PM for details. I'd especially be happy to trade numbers. Thanks.
What is going on? Keep seeing some of these escort sites that have adverts up selling weed. Now I found one where guns are for sale!
Are the webmasters that stupid? Won't be long before ATF, the FBI or some other law enforcement agency pays attention. That surely will get the site shut down. No obvious way to report an advert either and apparently they aren't policing thier own site?
https://callescort.org/267-685-9054
This is the kind of shit that brings unwanted attention to the hobby and makes it harder on all of us in the long run.
Keep drugs & guns out of the hobby!
WookieWonka
09-29-20, 11:24
What is going on? Keep seeing some of these escort sites that have adverts up selling weed. Now I found one where guns are for sale!
Are the webmasters that stupid? Won't be long before ATF, the FBI or some other law enforcement agency pays attention. That surely will get the site shut down. No obvious way to report an advert either and apparently they aren't policing thier own site?
https://callescort.org/267-685-9054
This is the kind of shit that brings unwanted attention to the hobby and makes it harder on all of us in the long run.
Keep drugs & guns out of the hobby!Many of these sites are hosted in countries with decent privacy laws and less strict laws about hobby. Iceland, Finland, Netherlands, Switzerland but they usually are not gun friendly in any way even if the listings were legal in the USA. Even if you are just looking at sites its advisable to access everything through a VPN and / or TOR (onion) browsers. Just don't use tor to access e-mail servers like yandex or protonmail. They will disable your account until you cough up another e-mail or phone number to get the account enabled again. Another option would be to use Tails Linux on a bootable USB drive for everything and use a password manager for your sites and use strongest passwords possible just to be safe. Even MX linux on bootable would work for most people.
I wish providers and people would start using Threema for texting / messaging. Its only 3 bucks in the app store and its much safer than anything else out there. Threema can be pin protected to launch and you can remove it from the phone and as long as you know the unique user code and the back up password can be recovered later but otherwise everything is encrypted and messages aren't stored anywhere, get deleted off the swiss server as soon as they are routed to the destination successfully.
What is going on? Keep seeing some of these escort sites that have adverts up selling weed. Now I found one where guns are for sale!
Are the webmasters that stupid? Won't be long before ATF, the FBI or some other law enforcement agency pays attention. That surely will get the site shut down. No obvious way to report an advert either and apparently they aren't policing thier own site?
https://callescort.org/267-685-9054
This is the kind of shit that brings unwanted attention to the hobby and makes it harder on all of us in the long run.
Keep drugs & guns out of the hobby!Exactly. Backpage bit the dust by not paying attention. These guys are next.
Many of these sites are hosted in countries with decent privacy laws and less strict laws about hobby. Iceland, Finland, Netherlands, Switzerland but they usually are not gun friendly in any way even if the listings were legal in the USA. Even if you are just looking at sites its advisable to access everything through a VPN and / or TOR (onion) browsers. Just don't use tor to access e-mail servers like yandex or protonmail. They will disable your account until you cough up another e-mail or phone number to get the account enabled again. Another option would be to use Tails Linux on a bootable USB drive for everything and use a password manager for your sites and use strongest passwords possible just to be safe. Even MX linux on bootable would work for most people.
I wish providers and people would start using Threema for texting / messaging. Its only 3 bucks in the app store and its much safer than anything else out there. Threema can be pin protected to launch and you can remove it from the phone and as long as you know the unique user code and the back up password can be recovered later but otherwise everything is encrypted and messages aren't stored anywhere, get deleted off the swiss server as soon as they are routed to the destination successfully.I like this kind of discussion and information! Techniques we can all use to stay safe.
As far as the bolded part goes, perhaps I am lucky as I can use proton through tor. If you need a VPN, I see that the proton people have just come out with their own VPN called ProtonVPN! I am sure that would work with the mail app too!
I like the idea of using an app for things, but onc you buy in an online app store? Seems like app purchases have to be tied to some kind of bank account or CC that here in the USA you have to prove your real identity to get? So doesn't that purchase then leave a trail to your real identity? If so, then how is it anonymous?
Maybe I need to learn a bit?
WookieWonka
10-01-20, 14:53
I like this kind of discussion and information! Techniques we can all use to stay safe.
As far as the bolded part goes, perhaps I am lucky as I can use proton through tor. If you need a VPN, I see that the proton people have just come out with their own VPN called ProtonVPN! I am sure that would work with the mail app too!
I like the idea of using an app for things, but onc you buy in an online app store? Seems like app purchases have to be tied to some kind of bank account or CC that here in the USA you have to prove your real identity to get? So doesn't that purchase then leave a trail to your real identity? If so, then how is it anonymous?
Maybe I need to learn a bit?Yes. Its tough to avoid a money trail online but with threema all you have is a trail that you purchased the app. There is no identifier and when you set up the user I'd you can skip linking it to a phone number, e-mail and your contacts. So all that exists are messages on the end users phones which are from a randomly generated user I'd and you can delete the app and when you do the random I'd on your phone gets deleted. Only the I'd and a password can recover the account if you want later or you re-install the app and set up a new account to message. If you have contacts you need to save those elsewhere. Everything else is encrypted. Its safer than the free apps people use from the app stores that track and log everything. You pay for the app not for the account you set up on it.
There are some similar open source apps to threema you can get for free for android phones via f-droid. But that limits use to android only users and it requires you to know how to install apps on your phone from sources other than the google store which might confuse some people. I also have an open source app that spoofs my phone location so any apps with access or that track location get false info when I activate it.
I have a separate checking account through a bank that issues ATM cards onsite for purchases and I set it to paperless. The email associated with that account is a proton mail account and the phone number is my walmart pay as you go phone reupped with cash. Keeps my real life finances and my hobby money separate in the rare cases I need it and no questions for anything from anyone that might see my normal account. I make deposits to that account with cash via the ATM machine or drive through at the bank. I try to do most shit with cash or brick and mortar. You can get a cheap smart phone and buy cards with cash to put time / data on them from walmart or similar then use burner app or google phone for a disposable number on that phone. Use your VPN (MulvadVPN gets rated well for privacy) to open a gmail account. Just use that for an android phone to get access to the play store and never access it without a VPN. Use VPN servers in Iceland, Finland, Sweden, or Switzerland. Most people are just hiding from the providers or hiding their hobby from friends / family. You can only do so much to hide from anyone else but it does help put up some roadblocks and disconnects.
You can connect to free mail servers with a VPN its the tor network traffic their security bots will flag and freeze your account. TOR and VPN are different. Nord VPN has double VPN servers and Onion servers (these are Tor VPN servers for all your internet traffic, not just your web browser. Everytime I use tor and access yandex or proton the account gets disabled but I guess that doesn't happen to everyone. I like it better that my ISP can't see what I'm doing and where I go on the net by using a VPN. You can only minimise your exposure. Encrypt as much as possible and also use strongest passwords and use an encrypted password manager. LastPass works pretty good.
I like this kind of discussion and information! Techniques we can all use to stay safe.
As far as the bolded part goes, perhaps I am lucky as I can use proton through tor. If you need a VPN, I see that the proton people have just come out with their own VPN called ProtonVPN! I am sure that would work with the mail app too!Before I went VPN I used TOR to access ProtonMail and have never had an issue either. Maybe that was an early practice that they decided to discontinue?
I would strongly recommend a VPN configured on your laptop / tablet / cell phone, and if you don't run TOR over the VPN for extra protection, at least browse exclusively in Incognito or Private mode in your browser.
I'm not saying it's foolproof, but I'm very vigilant around ensuring my browsing history remains clean (without having to clear it frequently, which is a big red flag) and so far I've not seen anything I've done incognito has stuck around. Not in browser history, not in cache, not in cookies.
You can get a router that enables you to configure VPN for your entire network, but that only protects traffic from your network's egress point out to the Internet forward. Anything snooping on your network (say, from another device in your house running a sniffer) would still see all your traffic in the clear. That's why configuring the VPN on the device you're using to browse the web is best. Then the traffic is encrypted from the moment it leaves your browser.
Stay safe!
Super cute Utr of mine is looking for a 3 sum. Pm for details. Please have some posting history. Thanks.
Before I went VPN I used TOR to access ProtonMail and have never had an issue either. Maybe that was an early practice that they decided to discontinue?
I would strongly recommend a VPN configured on your laptop / tablet / cell phone, and if you don't run TOR over the VPN for extra protection, at least browse exclusively in Incognito or Private mode in your browser.
I'm not saying it's foolproof, but I'm very vigilant around ensuring my browsing history remains clean (without having to clear it frequently, which is a big red flag) and so far I've not seen anything I've done incognito has stuck around. Not in browser history, not in cache, not in cookies.
You can get a router that enables you to configure VPN for your entire network, but that only protects traffic from your network's egress point out to the Internet forward. Anything snooping on your network (say, from another device in your house running a sniffer) would still see all your traffic in the clear. That's why configuring the VPN on the device you're using to browse the web is best. Then the traffic is encrypted from the moment it leaves your browser.
Stay safe!The Firefox browser can be set up to delete history and cookies when you quit the browser. You.
Can also load some good safety extensions like Privacy Badger and you-Block origin.
Heehaightmee
10-07-20, 00:12
It's been down for a bit. Anyone here know why?
It's been down for a bit. Anyone here know why?They have been having denial of service attacks recently, so perhaps that is it?
It's been down for a bit. Anyone here know why?I don't have problem on my end. If it's still down, try clear and reset your browser. One time Escortalligator redirected me to a different site for a few days until I clear and reset my browser. I probably clicked on one of the infected ads to have that happened.
WookieWonka
10-07-20, 08:43
It's been down for a bit. Anyone here know why?DDoS attacks. I have to switch through half dozen VPN servers to find one to get access sometimes because of them.
Academy215
10-07-20, 10:23
They have been having denial of service attacks recently, so perhaps that is itIf you are connected to a VPN you get that stupid denial of service website. Try disconnecting from VPN. Just watch who is watching your traffic.
If you are connected to a VPN you get that stupid denial of service website. Try disconnecting from VPN. Just watch who is watching your traffic.Yeah, using a vpn and seeing that DOS stuff. Either that or get a disjointed text only version of the site with no pictures. Yet another reason to not use STG. Wish they would fix this, but oh well. Plenty of Fish in the sea.
Not going to play without a condom, but also not hobby surfing without a vpn.
Heehaightmee
10-09-20, 13:14
Yeah, using a vpn and seeing that DOS stuff. Either that or get a disjointed text only version of the site with no pictures. Yet another reason to not use STG. Wish they would fix this, but oh well. Plenty of Fish in the sea.
Not going to play without a condom, but also not hobby surfing without a vpn.That's pretty sage advice. I do have a VPN so that's probably what's happening. It's not worth it for me to pioneer without a digital condom. Thanks for the insight.
Super cute Utr of mine is looking for a 3 sum. Pm for details. Please have some posting history. Thanks.Sorry I didn't realize my inbox was full and anyone who did reach my feel free to send another message so I know you are still interested.
Only Walmart shoppers and only in Philly. Bet this guy can't even spell tv. SMH. https://trendingviews.co/video/philly-walmart-looted-stolen-tv-goes-flying-off-getaway-car-14106.html.
Me, I'm just an 'OL Gator.
It's been down for a bit. Anyone here know why?I've been looking for an answer to this for weeks. I would never visit hobby sites without a VPN but STG wouldn't connect to anything from the multiple I tried (TunnelBear, NordVPN, ProtonVPN, etc.). I finally found one that shows me as in Great Britain on Whatsmyip.com but STG will connect to. It's a free Chrome add-in called Hola available in the chrome store as a free extension. Enjoy!
Jack.
I've been looking for an answer to this for weeks. I would never visit hobby sites without a VPN but STG wouldn't connect to anything from the multiple I tried (TunnelBear, NordVPN, ProtonVPN, etc.). I finally found one that shows me as in Great Britain on Whatsmyip.com but STG will connect to. It's a free Chrome add-in called Hola available in the chrome store as a free extension. Enjoy!
Jack.Your timing is excellent. Just yesterday I figured out that by using TOR over the ProtonVPN I have been able to access STG once again. Mostly.
From time to time I will get their caution sign screen, but if I wait three seconds and hit F5 the site will usually reload.
Also, from time to time I do have to ask for a new TOR identity. But for the most part that has worked.
As with everything else in this hobby, YMMV.
Your timing is excellent. Just yesterday I figured out that by using TOR over the ProtonVPN I have been able to access STG once again. Mostly.
From time to time I will get their caution sign screen, but if I wait three seconds and hit F5 the site will usually reload.
Also, from time to time I do have to ask for a new TOR identity. But for the most part that has worked.
As with everything else in this hobby, YMMV.As I played with Hola, I discovered that most of the IP address checker websites gave an address other than my real one but there was one that kept showing my REAL IP. I guess that means Hola isn't secure enough for me so I'll try TOR.
Thanks for the info.
Delco Gent
11-06-20, 13:25
Your timing is excellent. Just yesterday I figured out that by using TOR over the ProtonVPN I have been able to access STG once again. Mostly.
From time to time I will get their caution sign screen, but if I wait three seconds and hit F5 the site will usually reload.
Also, from time to time I do have to ask for a new TOR identity. But for the most part that has worked.
As with everything else in this hobby, YMMV.Is there a VPN that would work with my Android tablet?
Is there a VPN that would work with my Android tablet?Many VPNs work with mobile devices. If you search the Google Play store for VPN you should get a good assortment of VPNs.
Research your choices and pick the one that works best for you.
You'll see a lot of love online for NordVPN but I experienced very poor throughput. Eventually I settled on ProtonVPN.
Their (free) eMail works pretty well also!
Many VPNs work with mobile devices. If you search the Google Play store for VPN you should get a good assortment of VPNs.
Research your choices and pick the one that works best for you.
You'll see a lot of love online for NordVPN but I experienced very poor throughput. Eventually I settled on ProtonVPN.
Their (free) eMail works pretty well also!Interesting that there are so many free VPNs available in the "Stores. " Maybe I'm not getting this, but isn't the reason many apps are "free" is that they lay 'awake' in the background and record your location, surfing, etc. ? If so, doesn't that kind of monitoring run counter to the reasons for using a VPN?
Interesting that there are so many free VPNs available in the "Stores. " Maybe I'm not getting this, but isn't the reason many apps are "free" is that they lay 'awake' in the background and record your location, surfing, etc. ? If so, doesn't that kind of monitoring run counter to the reasons for using a VPN?Avoid the free VPNs. Look it up, but you want VPNs that do not save anything, are very secure, and a couple allow anonymous signup. The free ones are not going to be secure.
Avoid the free VPNs. Look it up, but you want VPNs that do not save anything, are very secure, and a couple allow anonymous signup. The free ones are not going to be secure.This exactly.
Hence the phrase "Do your research" in my original note.
Nobody should know better than us that you don't get anything for free in this world. You pay for everything somehow. In the "free VPN" case you're paying with your data.
I'd recommend you pay for your VPN. Most reputable services come out to less than $10/ month on a semi-annual or annual subscription.
And if anyone else in your household questions why you've configured a VPN on your devices, cite the general eavesdropping and hacking dangers on the Internet and offer to configure the VPN on her device (s) as well. Many plans will include protection on several devices as part of the base price.
Academy215
11-08-20, 07:05
Been using PureVPN for 5 years now, works great, lots of options and countries, excellent add-ons to browsers, phone app, I can surf, stream sports, download. And price is right.
Socalcasualguy
11-08-20, 10:53
Been using PureVPN for 5 years now, works great, lots of options and countries, excellent add-ons to browsers, phone app, I can surf, stream sports, download. And price is right.I'm not high tech guy, but did some online research, including looking at reviews / ratings on CNET. I chose ExpressVPN. Price was decent, speed decent, they seem to protect your data and privacy, and I like the kill switch feature, if the VPN isn't working, it cuts all traffic, so your ISP isn't exposed.
This exactly.
Hence the phrase "Do your research" in my original note.
Nobody should know better than us that you don't get anything for free in this world. You pay for everything somehow. In the "free VPN" case you're paying with your data.
I'd recommend you pay for your VPN. Most reputable services come out to less than $10/ month on a semi-annual or annual subscription.
Depends on who you wish to not be tracked by. Paying for a VPN leaves a trail, that leads back to you. I think that is akin to using your CC to pay for access to PACER and then having the Feds show up at your door because your were accessing hobby related cases. Have seen enough around to suspect that LE can sit on the exit node of a VPN and correlate that to your entry activity. Seen it done.
BUT I believe there is one VPN that is free and safe to use, I. E. No tracking or surveillance.
I met a super pretty suburban main line looking girl back in the summer waiting for the bus along Allegheny. I pulled up and asked her for her number and slowly but surely after a couple months off came the pants! She seems to enjoy the game now and has met a couple of my friends. Pm for an upcoming party.
MidnightRider7
11-15-20, 01:29
I met a super pretty suburban main line looking girl back in the summer waiting for the bus along Allegheny. I pulled up and asked her for her number and slowly but surely after a couple months off came the pants! She seems to enjoy the game now and has met a couple of my friends. Pm for an upcoming party.I'd be interested, do you have a date, time and pictures.
Not sure if this is the right thread to post this. Trying to wrap my head around the difference between having a sugar baby and just being a regular repeat client. And what is the proposition to the provider if you want to go that route, compared to just keeping on with the repeat business OTC?
Thanks for your advice as always.
Not sure if this is the right thread to post this. Trying to wrap my head around the difference between having a sugar baby and just being a regular repeat client. And what is the proposition to the provider if you want to go that route, compared to just keeping on with the repeat business OTC.Depending on the arrangement between two people determines the answer to your question. I don't think there is a generic one size fits all answer.
As with any arrangement both parties should make their intentions and expectations known.
There's definitely a marked difference between a sugar baby / daddy relationship as opposed to a prostitute relationship. There's plenty of online material on both.
Knowing what it is you wish from that type relationship is the best start. Then you find somebody that can meet those needs. You can propose anything you wish to the other party. They either accept or reject the arrangement.
The main thing in any relationship with strangers is your safety. What will you and won't you do to maintain that level of safety. I'm sure you know some stories that didn't turn out as expected that have been made very public. Those mistakes was made because somebody left bases uncovered. Those stories didn't have to be made public.
So, it's best to keep your private information private. Don't reveal if you are from out of town. That can bite you. Don't be flashy with large sums of money. Going on a date someplace, make it anyplace you would ordinarily go. Paying by credit card? Maybe a prepaid visa would protect your interest better.
There's a lot to consider when entering into any relationship you wish to keep private.
No matter how you handle your choices, think them through and CYA. Research everything then decide which type arrangement you wish to have.
Now, here is the golden rule. When you give a woman any information that can be used against you, don't be a bit surprised if she does just that. Me, I'm just an 'OL Gator.
While Gator has decades more experience than me, I actually have some experience here.
I had a woman I was seeing regularly, like 1-2 x / week. It started pretty transactional, just contacting to set things up and only meeting for sex.
Over time it got more GFE but stayed largely transactional. So a regular date with GFE, each meet up paid separate but more contact in between.
Finally, the transition to SB. I converted it to a fixed amount per week which I'd pay up front (I know, big no no). There was a bit of a handshake agreement about the amount of time / frequency that would buy. Neither of us abused that so it worked well. The biggest difference was the trust that was built had her do overnights at my place and then we traveled together a number of times. We also saw music and sports together, did dinners and lunches and whatnot. Lots of contact in between, texts mostly.
So for me the biggest difference was 'GFE' usually refers to what's on offer during a session. A SB extends that GFE into something that while paid approximates more an actual girlfriend relationship. It's not, which I ended up learning the hard way, not in a way where I got robbed or betrayed in any way but when it ended it was painful in a way that was way beyond losing a regular way to get my wick wet.
On a related note, I tried Secret Benefits again recently. It's a real dry hole. Lots of initial contact but no sustained conversations.
Depending on the arrangement between two people determines the answer to your question. I don't think there is a generic one size fits all answer.
As with any arrangement both parties should make their intentions and expectations known.
There's definitely a marked difference between a sugar baby / daddy relationship as opposed to a prostitute relationship. There's plenty of online material on both.
Knowing what it is you wish from that type relationship is the best start. Then you find somebody that can meet those needs. You can propose anything you wish to the other party. They either accept or reject the arrangement.
The main thing in any relationship with strangers is your safety. What will you and won't you do to maintain that level of safety. I'm sure you know some stories that didn't turn out as expected that have been made very public. Those mistakes was made because somebody left bases uncovered. Those stories didn't have to be made public.
So, it's best to keep your private information private. Don't reveal if you are from out of town. That can bite you. Don't be flashy with large sums of money. Going on a date someplace, make it anyplace you would ordinarily go. Paying by credit card? Maybe a prepaid visa would protect your interest better.
There's a lot to consider when entering into any relationship you wish to keep private.
No matter how you handle your choices, think them through and CYA. Research everything then decide which type arrangement you wish to have.
Now, here is the golden rule. When you give a woman any information that can be used against you, don't be a bit surprised if she does just that. Me, I'm just an 'OL Gator.
While Gator has decades more experience than me, I actually have some experience here.
I had a woman I was seeing regularly, like 1-2 x / week. It started pretty transactional, just contacting to set things up and only meeting for sex.
Over time it got more GFE but stayed largely transactional. So a regular date with GFE, each meet up paid separate but more contact in between.
Finally, the transition to SB. I converted it to a fixed amount per week which I'd pay up front (I know, big no no). There was a bit of a handshake agreement about the amount of time / frequency that would buy. Neither of us abused that so it worked well. The biggest difference was the trust that was built had her do overnights at my place and then we traveled together a number of times. We also saw music and sports together, did dinners and lunches and whatnot. Lots of contact in between, texts mostly.
So for me the biggest difference was 'GFE' usually refers to what's on offer during a session. A SB extends that GFE into something that while paid approximates more an actual girlfriend relationship. It's not, which I ended up learning the hard way, not in a way where I got robbed or betrayed in any way but when it ended it was painful in a way that was way beyond losing a regular way to get my wick wet.
On a related note, I tried Secret Benefits again recently. It's a real dry hole. Lots of initial contact but no sustained conversations.It's always good to get others perspective. It's true one size does not fit all.
We all look for that certain something in any relationship, whether its platonic, paid, or just a roll in the hay. As with all encounters even paid meetings demand an amount of trust. We can never assume because we paid for something we will get what we paid for. It s ok to expect it but assume we will get it is two separate thoughts. Shoot, we get burned on cars and houses. Why should pussy be any different?
Always being on point might be a key factor in making something like that work. Knowing what we want from the relationship. Always watching for telltale signs that indicate something may not be just the way we want it. Most important knowing what we don't want.
Although, JTerry's experience may have come to a painful conclusion, all matters of education have a beginning and ending class. JTerry is a wiser man for his quick education. All was not lost to say the least. I'm sure his eyes are more open to his wants and needs. He states he's been checking out Secret Benefits and so far not happy with the results. Would that be because there's nothing there for him? I don't think so. From his post my guess is hes more enlightened to what he wants and is now making choices.
He's more aware now about what he may have missed before. So knowing better now what he wants makes for a more informed experience. Me, I'm just an 'OL Gator.
It's always good to get others perspective. It's true one size does not fit all.
We all look for that certain something in any relationship, whether its platonic, paid, or just a roll in the hay. As with all encounters even paid meetings demand an amount of trust. We can never assume because we paid for something we will get what we paid for. It s ok to expect it but assume we will get it is two separate thoughts. Shoot, we get burned on cars and houses. Why should pussy be any different?
Always being on point might be a key factor in making something like that work. Knowing what we want from the relationship. Always watching for telltale signs that indicate something may not be just the way we want it. Most important knowing what we don't want.
Although, JTerry's experience may have come to a painful conclusion, all matters of education have a beginning and ending class. JTerry is a wiser man for his quick education. All was not lost to say the least. I'm sure his eyes are more open to his wants and needs. He states he's been checking out Secret Benefits and so far not happy with the results. Would that be because there's nothing there for him? I don't think so. From his post my guess is hes more enlightened to what he wants and is now making choices.
He's more aware now about what he may have missed before. So knowing better now what he wants makes for a more informed experience. Me, I'm just an 'OL Gator.I would certainly think that the OP has been enlightened a bit by these recent posts. BOTH being very informative. I'll inject my own experience (s), although maybe not as great as some, or, better than others.
As luck would have it, (huge amount of luck). After receiving MANY messages on SB, the very first girl I chose to reply to, we just REALLY hit it off. Was there an underlying motive for the both of us, of course! She wanted money and I wanted my dick sucked! We both knew this going in. But it DID seem we had many common interests. (Receiving / getting head, thankfully one of them! 😋. Fast forward almost THREE years. Yes, we're still at it.
Now my situation is different from many of you. Wife not at home, and so my level of need for discretion is not as high as some. Not that she's EVER taken advantage of that part of things, but her want / need for discretion is probably higher than mine. Have I contacted and meet other girls from SB? Yes. None, however, with the level of "chemistry", (or whatever it is) that I have with this girl. We've had times where things were going south and I, as jterry, did, "felt the pain". Yet, still together, communicating daily, seemingly as if a boyfriend / girlfriend relationship.
I digress, as I wanted to tell my story, and, really, where else could I tell it??
From what I have seen and experienced, the diff between SB and a "traditional transactional experience" CAN be great. That doesn't mean it WILL be. Only that it CAN be. I think with sugar dating, the YMMV comes even more so into play, as there are ALL different types of SB'S. I would say the MAIN difference being that an SB wants to be felt like she's taken care of, and does NOT want to be labeled as a "hooker" or "prostitute", although, really, essentially, . Is there a difference? Perhaps. But I have not yet actually learned it.
With this long story, my SB is having surgery this afternoon (outpatient) I will be providing dinner for her and her children so that she may rest up and heal. Hoping and praying for a speedy recovery, so that I may get back to the wonderful head that she gives!
P.S. , I know, everyone in here wants good head, but if anyone has a suggestion, I'm all ears!129315;.
Great thread. Another point I would make is with regulars the sex tends to get better as you get to know each other, she learns what you like and maybe you learn to push a button or two with her.
With a SB (granted, my n=1) you get that and an emotional connection with IME made the sex even better. Plus, like in any relationship there's other emotional rewards but literally the best sex I've had in my 50+ years (including the last few with mongering) was with her.
My mistake is as it was ending was to try to hold on. I should have, in retrospect, just gone full tear-off-bandaid mode. That said, no regerts! 2019 was a significantly better year for me b / c of her and for that I'm thankful.
So to Gator's point, what I learned is in addition to sex there's other things I enjoyed (emotional connection, companionship) and that ended up making the sex part better. As far as my foray back to Secret Benefits goes, that's not for (just) sex. With the help I've received here I've gotten pretty good at finding sex. From AMPs to a few regulars I see a couple of times of month each to just cutting through the bullshit to find women on StG or elsewhere. I went on SB for that broader experience. That said, I think it's full of bots to suck the money out of you.
I would certainly think that the OP has been enlightened a bit by these recent posts. BOTH being very informative. I'll inject my own experience (s), although maybe not as great as some, or, better than others.
As luck would have it, (huge amount of luck). After receiving MANY messages on SB, the very first girl I chose to reply to, we just REALLY hit it off. Was there an underlying motive for the both of us, of course! She wanted money and I wanted my dick sucked! We both knew this going in. But it DID seem we had many common interests. (Receiving / getting head, thankfully one of them! 😋. Fast forward almost THREE years. Yes, we're still at it.
Now my situation is different from many of you. Wife not at home, and so my level of need for discretion is not as high as some. Not that she's EVER taken advantage of that part of things, but her want / need for discretion is probably higher than mine. Have I contacted and meet other girls from SB? Yes. None, however, with the level of "chemistry", (or whatever it is) that I have with this girl. We've had times where things were going south and I, as jterry, did, "felt the pain". Yet, still together, communicating daily, seemingly as if a boyfriend / girlfriend relationship.
I digress, as I wanted to tell my story, and, really, where else could I tell it??
From what I have seen and experienced, the diff between SB and a "traditional transactional experience" CAN be great. That doesn't mean it WILL be. Only that it CAN be. I think with sugar dating, the YMMV comes even more so into play, as there are ALL different types of SB'S. I would say the MAIN difference being that an SB wants to be felt like she's taken care of, and does NOT want to be labeled as a "hooker" or "prostitute", although, really, essentially, . Is there a difference? Perhaps. But I have not yet actually learned it.
With this long story, my SB is having surgery this afternoon (outpatient) I will be providing dinner for her and her children so that she may rest up and heal. Hoping and praying for a speedy recovery, so that I may get back to the wonderful head that she gives!
P.S. , I know, everyone in here wants good head, but if anyone has a suggestion, I'm all ears!129315;.
Great thread. Another point I would make is with regulars the sex tends to get better as you get to know each other, she learns what you like and maybe you learn to push a button or two with her.
With a SB (granted, my n=1) you get that and an emotional connection with IME made the sex even better. Plus, like in any relationship there's other emotional rewards but literally the best sex I've had in my 50+ years (including the last few with mongering) was with her.
My mistake is as it was ending was to try to hold on. I should have, in retrospect, just gone full tear-off-bandaid mode. That said, no regerts! 2019 was a significantly better year for me b / c of her and for that I'm thankful.
So to Gator's point, what I learned is in addition to sex there's other things I enjoyed (emotional connection, companionship) and that ended up making the sex part better. As far as my foray back to Secret Benefits goes, that's not for (just) sex. With the help I've received here I've gotten pretty good at finding sex. From AMPs to a few regulars I see a couple of times of month each to just cutting through the bullshit to find women on StG or elsewhere. I went on SB for that broader experience. That said, I think it's full of bots to suck the money out of you.Yes, I can't speak for ALL sb's and one again YMMV, but there is DEFINITELY an emotional attachment (at least on my end, and I THINK on hers) between me and my sb. Although I need to remember, that the attachment IS pensacola stronger from MY end. That said, the couple of times we had almost called it quits, it REALLY hurt. Almost, if not more than when I ended a certain long term relationship with a certain someone I called my wife.
Yes, best sex I've EVER experienced was with her. I often refer to her as the devil, as she has spoiled me for any other woman, as the things she does, I certainly don't think many will do.
Really appreciate the wisdom on this board. What got me thinking this way, I'm FT back into the hobby after getting out of a long-term relationship earlier this year. My ATF from years and years ago was one with whom I kinda bridged the gap between "regular" and "SB. " After seeing her a couple of times, it just worked well for us though but never made a formal permanent arrangement. Paid each visit individually, her advertised 2-hour fee, but she never stayed less than 5 hours, usually 6 and often a full overnight. We'd go out for dinner, swing by Blockbuster (Blockbuster! This is how long ago it was) to pick something up, laugh our asses off then go fuck like jackrabbits. Completely as others have mentioned, full GFE where the "Girlfriend" part extends outside of the bedroom. I've referred to it as "friends with benefits, the benefit to her being I give her money. " My biggest difference with JT's experience is that when it was over, there were no regrets or hard feelings or pain. It is what it is, and though I'd have preferred for it to have continued and I miss her as a friend and lover, it's NBD.
So that's something I'd like to have again and that's what brought up the topic. The biggest problem I'm facing is that unlike years ago when providers were often (like this girl) single moms supplementing their income, todays crew is almost exclusively hardcore addicts. I couldn't ever be like "Ayoo lets go down the shore for a couple days. I cover the expenses and all you got to do is bounce around in a bikini and be gorgeous. I'll make it worth your while," because none of them can be away from their supply for that long. I'm not even sure I could successfully pull off a local overnight with most of them.
Again, thanks to all for the feedback.
Really appreciate the wisdom on this board. What got me thinking this way, I'm FT back into the hobby after getting out of a long-term relationship earlier this year. My ATF from years and years ago was one with whom I kinda bridged the gap between "regular" and "SB. " After seeing her a couple of times, it just worked well for us though but never made a formal permanent arrangement. Paid each visit individually, her advertised 2-hour fee, but she never stayed less than 5 hours, usually 6 and often a full overnight. We'd go out for dinner, swing by Blockbuster (Blockbuster! This is how long ago it was) to pick something up, laugh our asses off then go fuck like jackrabbits. Completely as others have mentioned, full GFE where the "Girlfriend" part extends outside of the bedroom. I've referred to it as "friends with benefits, the benefit to her being I give her money. " My biggest difference with JT's experience is that when it was over, there were no regrets or hard feelings or pain. It is what it is, and though I'd have preferred for it to have continued and I miss her as a friend and lover, it's NBD.
So that's something I'd like to have again and that's what brought up the topic. The biggest problem I'm facing is that unlike years ago when providers were often (like this girl) single moms supplementing their income, todays crew is almost exclusively hardcore addicts. I couldn't ever be like "Ayoo lets go down the shore for a couple days. I cover the expenses and all you got to do is bounce around in a bikini and be gorgeous. I'll make it worth your while," because none of them can be away from their supply for that long. I'm not even sure I could successfully pull off a local overnight with most of them.
Again, thanks to all for the feedback.Glad you had a good time and glad she got some help along the way. Wonderful to hear success stories.
While it IS true many girls these days are hooked, . Does not apply to all, in fact I would say probably a better portion on the daddy sites I would think are not. Certainly need to be picky, but I can attest that they ARE out there. Don't give up hope!
SwaggyBruuuh
11-18-20, 22:13
I'd be interested, do you have a date, time and pictures.The bro never replies back.
WookieWonka
11-19-20, 01:52
Glad you had a good time and glad she got some help along the way. Wonderful to hear success stories.
While it IS true many girls these days are hooked, . Does not apply to all, in fact I would say probably a better portion on the daddy sites I would think are not. Certainly need to be picky, but I can attest that they ARE out there. Don't give up hope!Back in the 90's where I grew up, I used to hit the neighbourhood bar. All locals. Staff and patrons. There was a bartender / barmaid chick I went to school with. She worked every night. If she knew you, like grew up / school together knew you and you were on friendly terms she would "date" you. She dated 3 or 4 guys at the same time who basically went home with her after her shift from the bar for the night. She was a friend with mutual benefits. You left like 80 bucks on the night stand in morning. It was only discussed once. If you didn't leave the gift on the night stand before leaving then you were still friends but you never got invited back to her place again. You spent the whole night and most of the morning sometimes right up till she had to get ready for work She drank a little and smoked weed but to my knowledge never used hard drugs. She just wanted a decent apartment, a reliable car and some security in the bank. She went with people she knew and trusted. In high school she liked to have fun and get around and after she just decided to keep having fun and getting some compensation.
a better portion on the daddy sites I would think are not. Any thoughts on where's the better selection and conversion rate? SB vs Seeking vs??
While I like a young spinner as much as anyone else, my choice would be an early to mid 30's MILF type, do they tend to be more on one site rather than another?
I wouldn't say I've ever had much "success" on AFF, though it has gotten me laid more than once. But that place is an entirely different ballgame.
Back in the 90's where I grew up, I used to hit the neighbourhood bar. All locals. Staff and patrons. There was a bartender / barmaid chick I went to school with. She worked every night. If she knew you, like grew up / school together knew you and you were on friendly terms she would "date" you. She dated 3 or 4 guys at the same time who basically went home with her after her shift from the bar for the night. She was a friend with mutual benefits. You left like 80 bucks on the night stand in morning. It was only discussed once. If you didn't leave the gift on the night stand before leaving then you were still friends but you never got invited back to her place again. You spent the whole night and most of the morning sometimes right up till she had to get ready for work She drank a little and smoked weed but to my knowledge never used hard drugs. She just wanted a decent apartment, a reliable car and some security in the bank. She went with people she knew and trusted. In high school she liked to have fun and get around and after she just decided to keep having fun and getting some compensation.Around the late 90's, the bar I frequented had a bartender like that. I never partook, but should have. Out of curiosity, just how did that one-time discussion go? Was it before the home-coming, or after?
So my wife is going away Wed AM through Sun PM. I'm in what I have to imagine is a common married monger mode of lining up dates (extended if possible) with my regulars and plotting other opportunities. I feel like I need a dedicated Pussy Coordinator. Shit's getting complicated.
So my wife is going away Wed AM through Sun PM. I'm in what I have to imagine is a common married monger mode of lining up dates (extended if possible) with my regulars and plotting other opportunities. I feel like I need a dedicated Pussy Coordinator. Shit's getting complicated.Rather have that problem than the one I've been wrestling with, which is trying to hit a two- or three-hour window. I've struck out the last four times.
It's like the providers aren't reliable or something like that.
WookieWonka
11-25-20, 01:19
Around the late 90's, the bar I frequented had a bartender like that. I never partook, but should have. Out of curiosity, just how did that one-time discussion go? Was it before the home-coming, or after?With me the discussion took place out back behind the bar in the alley. Back then I was a huge pot head. Her shift was over and we went to smoke some weed in my car. She brought it up casually as an invitation to hang out with her and instead of spending money to take her out on dates I could just give her that money and cut out the BS we can go have fun at her place together. We knew each other casually for a long time so it wasn't like a conversation with a complete stranger but were weren't close friends either.
Great date last night with a regular. Set up a different regular this morning but I left after 20+ minutes with no response for the room #. She's been reliable so that was disappointing. Drove up to Azn Delight instead and had a great time with Annie. 69'ed on our sides on the table, bb. Almost lost it there, that was hot.
Rather have that problem than the one I've been wrestling with, which is trying to hit a two- or three-hour window. I've struck out the last four times.
It's like the providers aren't reliable or something like that.
MidnightRider7
11-27-20, 05:10
The bro never replies back.Did you send me a PM?
Kind of, basically decided not to wait to see if it got figured out so I bailed to plan B. Blue Wave AMP in Clayton.
Place was busy so the MMS gave me the table shower. On the flip she jerked me and when I got hard she was like "oooh, you LIKE me". Yeah, MMS, you still got it.
For the massage Lisa comes in. Older but really nice body. Gets right down to it. Rimming, BBBJ, 69, BBBJ, CFS.
(Mish to doggie) to BBBJCIM. $30 more for the same service in Philly but it was great. Really good BBBJ.
Great date last night with a regular. Set up a different regular this morning but I left after 20+ minutes with no response for the room #. She's been reliable so that was disappointing. Drove up to Azn Delight instead and had a great time with Annie. 69'ed on our sides on the table, bb. Almost lost it there, that was hot.
Since we are all constantly looking for love this must be our (mongers) special day!
WookieWonka
02-14-21, 12:55
Since we are all constantly looking for love this must be our (mongers) special day!I think I'm going to go hit up BNA in NJ to see if any couples or single females show up then after 4 or 5 pm go hit up the Playhouse or maybe an AMP but I get the feeling AMPs might be extra busy today.
I hit the playground for Valentines day. I wasn't looking for love just some creative action. Up ahead I see a very attractive blonde. I pull over ahead of her and she gets in as she gets to my vehicle. We did the customary small talk. The you feel me I feel you agreement then it was off to the races.
She was perfect. Very cute. Nice clothes. Great rack and a smile that just wouldn't quit. One thing that attracted me to her is she had all her teeth.
So, we are headed to the spot and I asked her name. She said Nikki. I asked what's your whole name? She quickly replied "PUSSY". I knew then and there I had found a keeper. Me, I'm just an 'OL Gator.
Out of frustration with not being able to find a reliable regular that's relatively nearby, I decided to try the Sugar Baby route for the 3rd time. Forget who I used the first time. Second time was Secret Benefits and this time SA.
So far I'm cautiously ambitious. For one, I'm liking and messaging women left and right. Figure some % are fake / bots so the shotgun approach should help weed them out. I'm being politely aggressive. Four or 5 days in these are my impressions:
1) definitely some bots on there, either that or the small town next to me has a couple of dozen hot co-eds. Seems unlikely. So some likes and messages just disappear.
2) the geographic restrictions suck, I only wanted close by leads. That said, if I ever make it to Venezuela I'll be hip deep in pussy. You can also restrict by body type and I'm sorry to say what some women think passes for athletic or average.
3) there's some straight up escorts on there, conversation goes through pretty quickly to pay-per-visit. Like a UTR escort. I have one of those set up for Th and another pending.
4) there's definitely real sugar babies on there. I'm meeting one for drinks tomorrow.
I'll report back later this week on how the various dates go. If all goes well I'll have two escort-like hook ups and a SB interview.
Out of frustration with not being able to find a reliable regular that's relatively nearby, I decided to try the Sugar Baby route for the 3rd time. Forget who I used the first time. Second time was Secret Benefits and this time SA.
So far I'm cautiously ambitious. For one, I'm liking and messaging women left and right. Figure some % are fake / bots so the shotgun approach should help weed them out. I'm being politely aggressive. Four or 5 days in these are my impressions:
1) definitely some bots on there, either that or the small town next to me has a couple of dozen hot co-eds. Seems unlikely. So some likes and messages just disappear.
2) the geographic restrictions suck, I only wanted close by leads. That said, if I ever make it to Venezuela I'll be hip deep in pussy. You can also restrict by body type and I'm sorry to say what some women think passes for athletic or average.
3) there's some straight up escorts on there, conversation goes through pretty quickly to pay-per-visit. Like a UTR escort. I have one of those set up for Th and another pending.
4) there's definitely real sugar babies on there. I'm meeting one for drinks tomorrow.
I'll report back later this week on how the various dates go. If all goes well I'll have two escort-like hook ups and a SB interview.I used to be on Ashley Madison. It was actually pretty good like 6 years ago. The sex was free. I had a regular for years. She just wanted sex.
Anyway I get back on and its just terrible. I talked to a couple girls. Either they are too far or just ghost when its time to meet. This covid shit is just messing everything up.
I signed up for SA and I get at least 3 to 5 girls favorite me or at least viewed my profile. I have not bought the service to respond. Its seems to good to be true. Or just lots of fakes. I am sure they are expensive to date some of them girl too if they are real. I hear you get banned if say the wrong thing too. That sounds very annoying. Anyway any info would be good.
It's only been a week but it seems promising. A couple of good leads including some really close by. I'm supposed to meet one tonight and another tomorrow and possibly a 3rd over the weekend. The 2nd one just looks like it's straight sex, I. E. We're meeting at a hotel. That said, big difference between a lead and getting laid and an even bigger difference between getting laid and getting a reasonable (price, not crazy) regular.
I used to be on Ashley Madison. It was actually pretty good like 6 years ago. The sex was free. I had a regular for years. She just wanted sex.
Anyway I get back on and its just terrible. I talked to a couple girls. Either they are too far or just ghost when its time to meet. This covid shit is just messing everything up.
I signed up for SA and I get at least 3 to 5 girls favorite me or at least viewed my profile. I have not bought the service to respond. Its seems to good to be true. Or just lots of fakes. I am sure they are expensive to date some of them girl too if they are real. I hear you get banned if say the wrong thing too. That sounds very annoying. Anyway any info would be good.
It's only been a week but it seems promising. A couple of good leads including some really close by. I'm supposed to meet one tonight and another tomorrow and possibly a 3rd over the weekend. The 2nd one just looks like it's straight sex, I. E. We're meeting at a hotel. That said, big difference between a lead and getting laid and an even bigger difference between getting laid and getting a reasonable (price, not crazy) regular.Wow sounds very promising. Do you have any tips on what to say. As I heard of some guys complaining of being banned because they might have said something that refers to paid sex. Also what kind of funds are these girls asking. I'm sure its different from each girl but they maybe some tips on how this is all approached. My luck I would pay for the sites service to communicate and then get banned. LOL.
Wow sounds very promising. Do you have any tips on what to say. As I heard of some guys complaining of being banned because they might have said something that refers to paid sex. Also what kind of funds are these girls asking. I'm sure its different from each girl but they maybe some tips on how this is all approached. My luck I would pay for the sites service to communicate and then get banned. LOL.This is my approach this time. Keep in mind it has yielded ZERO actual results (me getting my wick wet) yet so YMMV:
1) focus search on nearby and recently active or new.
2) like a ton of women, mostly close by but also in Philly.
3) for like 10-15 a day follow up with a message "hey, how's town x".
4) if I get a response move quickly to "let's switch to texting" and when texting to "let's meet for a drink or dinner" and set something up ASAP. My theory here is a good bot can banter for weeks but it likely doesn't have a cell and can't show up at a bar. And if she doesn't want to meet, she's not interested in me personally or she's not actually into being a SB.
So I was supposed to meet someone 2 nights ago. Begged off (not feeling well) then disappeared. No responses to texts. The second was supposed to be tonight but we got 8-10" of snow. Have a bar meet for Sat and maybe another.
So again, zero actual results. Happy to get any advice, I've gotten at least one DM that was negative about SA.
Wow sounds very promising. Do you have any tips on what to say. As I heard of some guys complaining of being banned because they might have said something that refers to paid sex. Also what kind of funds are these girls asking. I'm sure its different from each girl but they maybe some tips on how this is all approached. My luck I would pay for the sites service to communicate and then get banned. LOL.There is a thread on the Philly boards on Sugar Dating, scroll down the list of threads to the user 'blog section', below the blue horizontal line.
There is a whole 'How To" section on what was the original SB board in Richmond, VA.
Sugarbaby Thread Highlights, Index, and FAQ
http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?15100-Sugarbaby-Thread-Highlights-Index-and-FAQ
Start at Post #1 There is a PhD level of info there on every imaginable aspect of Sugar Dating. Take it piece by piece. Also the guys in VA are open to outsiders posting there and asking technique questions. Guys from around the country add their expertise there.
Wow sounds very promising. Do you have any tips on what to say. As I heard of some guys complaining of being banned because they might have said something that refers to paid sex. Also what kind of funds are these girls asking. I'm sure its different from each girl but they maybe some tips on how this is all approached. My luck I would pay for the sites service to communicate and then get banned. LOL.Just wanted to put my 2 in here.
I've been a member of WYP, SA, and SB for sometime now. Haven't paid for SA, did a couple rounds of credits on SB, with "a little" success.
First, there's all kinds on there. Pros, girls who have never met up (beginners), girls NOT looking to meet up (want to sell pics), bots, and real high end SB'S. The bots are generally (with an experienced eye) simple to weed out. If you're getting a message from a beauty in Brazil or California or Texas and you haven't looked at that profile (they get a message when you do), many times a bot.
I think the best approach, if you're concerned about being banned for saying the wrong thing is to make simple chat and quickly take it off site,(email, phone, text, kik, or other messenger) as with JT's technique. Most times, a couple simple messages and you can accomplish this quickly. From THERE, it's up to you to weed them out further and determine who or what it is you are chatting / talking to and what they are looking for and what they are willing to do.
As luck would have it, the first girl I decided to message back, we REALLY hit it off and 2-3 years later I have YET to find any better! With that being said, I managed a couple of meets with others with a SO-SO percentage of "happy endings". A few hook ups, and a few successes, but nothing really significant, with the exception of my current baby, who was, like I said, the first one I messaged.
Sugar dating IS similar to p4 p, however it involves much more work, and the girls do not wish to feel like they are having sex for money, but rather (the term they always use) "being spoiled". It's more about a serious connection and chemistry between the two of you and once you have THAT, MUCH can be accomplished. Like I said, MUCH more work involved vs "provider dating" but for those seeking more of a GFE and more serious connection, I would think it to be the way to go.
I haven't seen any of the high end girls or ones that won't negotiate to a reasonable price, so I can't speak on them, but, many will start with very high prices (esp girls who have never met) but after a bit of banter and chat, will generally come to their senses.
Sorry for the really long winded post, but as I started, more and more info kept coming to mind, and now we have a war and peace novel, but hopefully it can prove helpful to some.
Good luck to all, have fun, and be careful!
There is a thread on the Philly boards on Sugar Dating, scroll down the list of threads to the user 'blog section', below the blue horizontal line.
There is a whole 'How To" section on what was the original SB board in Richmond, VA.
Sugarbaby Thread Highlights, Index, and FAQ
http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?15100-Sugarbaby-Thread-Highlights-Index-and-FAQ
Start at Post #1 There is a PhD level of info there on every imaginable aspect of Sugar Dating. Take it piece by piece. Also the guys in VA are open to outsiders posting there and asking technique questions. Guys from around the country add their expertise there.See, there is ALWAYS more to be learned. As I type my huge post, shampoo adds another spot to get further edgeumicated. Thanks! Will certainly check out that link!
Good luck, have fun, and be careful.
See, there is ALWAYS more to be learned. As I type my huge post, shampoo adds another spot to get further edgeumicated. Thanks! Will certainly check out that link!
Good luck, have fun, and be careful.Big thanks to all you guys for the info. Seriously much appreciated. Save time and money. I'm looking forward to hearing from your adventures good or bad.
Msaunders6969
02-19-21, 10:34
I think I'm going to go hit up BNA in NJ to see if any couples or single females show up then after 4 or 5 pm go hit up the Playhouse or maybe an AMP but I get the feeling AMPs might be extra busy today.Didn't realize BNA had reopened.
After having to reschedule I saw my first woman from SA tonight. Met for drinks. 20-something, turns out she's living back at home so I got a hotel. Real great GFE experience. Really took her time, BBBJ w dt, daty, like 5 different positions. All great. Couldn't cum. She goes back to BBBJ. Not happening. Probably like 30 minutes in at this point.
So we just lounge, talk, snuggle etc. I get back on her after like 20 minutes (she's laying flat) and I cum (cip) in like 10 strokes. Go figure. Heh. So we met at 6, were at the hotel by like 7:30 and left around 9:20.
Anyway, great experience. Hotel was an unanticipated expense but she said she'd come to my place next time. Worth it.
Just wanted to put my 2 in here.
I've been a member of WYP, SA, and SB for sometime now. Haven't paid for SA, did a couple rounds of credits on SB, with "a little" success.
First, there's all kinds on there. Pros, girls who have never met up (beginners), girls NOT looking to meet up (want to sell pics), bots, and real high end SB'S. The bots are generally (with an experienced eye) simple to weed out. If you're getting a message from a beauty in Brazil or California or Texas and you haven't looked at that profile (they get a message when you do), many times a bot.
I think the best approach, if you're concerned about being banned for saying the wrong thing is to make simple chat and quickly take it off site,(email, phone, text, kik, or other messenger) as with JT's technique. Most times, a couple simple messages and you can accomplish this quickly. From THERE, it's up to you to weed them out further and determine who or what it is you are chatting / talking to and what they are looking for and what they are willing to do.
As luck would have it, the first girl I decided to message back, we REALLY hit it off and 2-3 years later I have YET to find any better! With that being said, I managed a couple of meets with others with a SO-SO percentage of "happy endings". A few hook ups, and a few successes, but nothing really significant, with the exception of my current baby, who was, like I said, the first one I messaged.
Sugar dating IS similar to p4 p, however it involves much more work, and the girls do not wish to feel like they are having sex for money, but rather (the term they always use) "being spoiled". It's more about a serious connection and chemistry between the two of you and once you have THAT, MUCH can be accomplished. Like I said, MUCH more work involved vs "provider dating" but for those seeking more of a GFE and more serious connection, I would think it to be the way to go.
I haven't seen any of the high end girls or ones that won't negotiate to a reasonable price, so I can't speak on them, but, many will start with very high prices (esp girls who have never met) but after a bit of banter and chat, will generally come to their senses.
Sorry for the really long winded post, but as I started, more and more info kept coming to mind, and now we have a war and peace novel, but hopefully it can prove helpful to some.
Good luck to all, have fun, and be careful!
After having to reschedule I saw my first woman from SA tonight. Met for drinks. 20-something, turns out she's living back at home so I got a hotel. Real great GFE experience. Really took her time, BBBJ w dt, daty, like 5 different positions. All great. Couldn't cum. She goes back to BBBJ. Not happening. Probably like 30 minutes in at this point.
So we just lounge, talk, snuggle etc. I get back on her after like 20 minutes (she's laying flat) and I cum (cip) in like 10 strokes. Go figure. Heh. So we met at 6, were at the hotel by like 7:30 and left around 9:20.
Anyway, great experience. Hotel was an unanticipated expense but she said she'd come to my place next time. Worth it.Very glad to hear a success story. See so many negative stories, it's refreshing. Glad you had a good time!
StormRanger
02-22-21, 08:22
I've had success several times with Tinder. I live in a small college town, and the girls aren't great with managing their money. They eventually start looking for a daddy to help out. Also, frustrated mommies are on there that just want to feel pretty again.
Very glad to hear a success story. See so many negative stories, it's refreshing. Glad you had a good time!I also got some feedback from her about how I made the cut:
1) I was polite in my intro, bantered back and forth. Treated her with respect.
2) I didn't ask for her hidden photo right away and after getting that didn't badger her for more.
3) I had good spelling and punctuation (Didn't expect that one. I think she saw it as a sign of maturity and respect (take the time to write correctly).
4) Moved quickly to text and then to meeting. Guess the women have the same incentives to cut through the bs and bots to men who are serious.
5) Didn't get all explicit or whatnot, was comfortable with ambiguity.
She said after that the pre-meet doesn't always go well and if it doesn't she just leaves so there was some screening by her over drinks as well. Lastly, and I hope I'm not wrong here, but she legit appears to be a UTR provider that's in it because of the economy and job prospects, not b / c of drugs. I really hope that's true.
So we'll see, going to try to make it a regular thing.
I have been using Text Now app on an android cell. It let you use a different number, which is good. I don't need anyone sending me messages at the wrong time. Or when kids or family decide to root through the cell phone. It has worked OK. Sometimes the texts are delayed.
Now it's not been working right. I sent a text and I see I received a notice for a text back. When I open the app it's gone. It screwed up two meetings today. So I may just get a cheap throw away cell. Any suggestions for better app that hides your number or a low usage cell phone plan?
I have been using Text Now app on an android cell. It let you use a different number, which is good. I don't need anyone sending me messages at the wrong time. Or when kids or family decide to root through the cell phone. It has worked OK. Sometimes the texts are delayed.
Now it's not been working right. I sent a text and I see I received a notice for a text back. When I open the app it's gone. It screwed up two meetings today. So I may just get a cheap throw away cell. Any suggestions for better app that hides your number or a low usage cell phone plan?I got a burner phone for $20, bought minutes for $20 for 3 months so my total annual outlay to maintain a burner phone is $100. The problem is that it takes all day to text with it because its a flip phone, not a smart phone. So I keep it for those providers I strictly call.
Then I got a Text now app for texting purposes. The downfall is that you don't the responses in real time so you don't know if the provider is responding or not. Then I switched to Google # and that works the best. But it does require a hot spot since it is strictly WIFI based. Since I have that for business, it works well.
Bottom line, I don't like to spend more than I have to but for safety and prying eyes, don't be afraid to invest in your hobby. It goes without saying, its cheaper than a divorce lawyer.
I have been using Text Now app on an android cell. It let you use a different number, which is good. I don't need anyone sending me messages at the wrong time. Or when kids or family decide to root through the cell phone. It has worked OK. Sometimes the texts are delayed.
Now it's not been working right. I sent a text and I see I received a notice for a text back. When I open the app it's gone. It screwed up two meetings today. So I may just get a cheap throw away cell. Any suggestions for better app that hides your number or a low usage cell phone plan?Depends on the level of"security" you need, but I had a cheap burner from text now, that was actually pretty decent. Using a cheap lg with straight talk for the past yr or so, with no issues. My level of discretion may be lower than some OR most of the other fellas, though.
I have been using Text Now app on an android cell. It let you use a different number, which is good. I don't need anyone sending me messages at the wrong time. Or when kids or family decide to root through the cell phone. It has worked OK. Sometimes the texts are delayed.
Now it's not been working right. I sent a text and I see I received a notice for a text back. When I open the app it's gone. It screwed up two meetings today. So I may just get a cheap throw away cell. Any suggestions for better app that hides your number or a low usage cell phone plan?Youse dudes with text apps on your regular phone to use for hobbying are just plain crazy, IMHO. Dude I met through here had an app like that layered on his phone and one day he got busted by the SO because of it.
Not everything works like you think it should. Dude would call me, but when he switched cells (towers) and the connection dropped, phone would reconnect using the real number and not the app number! Go figure. So you want a SW or STG girl to find your real name, etc. ? Then one day SO wanted to borrow his phone. You gunna say no to that when 'she who must be obeyed' asks? Denying such will get suspicion up right away. Anyway, one of his honeys called and SO answered. You can guess the rest.
So best bet is a burner phone with an app layered on top of that! You can always toss a burner in the Delaware when things get too hot, but you ain't doing that with your regular phone.
OP has it right you gots to invest in the hobby! It certainly IS cheaper than an attorney or black mail.
Good Good Time
02-28-21, 00:36
Youse dudes with text apps on your regular phone to use for hobbying are just plain crazy, IMHO. Dude I met through here had an app like that layered on his phone and one day he got busted by the SO because of it.
Not everything works like you think it should. Dude would call me, but when he switched cells (towers) and the connection dropped, phone would reconnect using the real number and not the app number! Go figure. So you want a SW or STG girl to find your real name, etc. ? Then one day SO wanted to borrow his phone. You gunna say no to that when 'she who must be obeyed' asks? Denying such will get suspicion up right away. Anyway, one of his honeys called and SO answered. You can guess the rest.
So best bet is a burner phone with an app layered on top of that! You can always toss a burner in the Delaware when things get too hot, but you ain't doing that with your regular phone.
OP has it right you gots to invest in the hobby! It certainly IS cheaper than an attorney or black mail.All just depends on your situation. My SO never touches my phone and vice versa. We are really strict about it, just as a matter of respect. But we switch cars based on who is driving where and who isn't, and she's a cleaning fanatic who loves to rearrange furniture and shit. So there's actually a bigger risk of her finding a second phone than finding the app that I have on my phone with all notifications turned off (I turn them on when actively hunting only), buried in a folder, and with most of the names saved as the same names as my friends.
A buddy of mine found out his wife was meeting up with her old high school boyfriend and getting plowed in various motels simply by picking up her phone one day and looking through her messages.
As far as cellphones, if your SO is capable, just having physical access to your phone you can do a lot depending on what you want.
If your phone isn't password protected they can install a hidden app that will send all text and other information to their personal phone in real time so they can see who you're talking to. If you have a password on your phone they can use a device that LE uses that will plug into your phone that will just download / copy everything and they can go through the files / text messages to find anything incriminating just like LE. I believe it was made just for that purpose for border security when people refused to unlock their phones.
I doubt any SO is going through all this though and buying some device for one time use. Much easier to:
1. Hire a private investor.
2. Install some type of GPS tracking device on your car.
3 Discretely put a voice activated microphone in your vehicle.
A buddy of mine found out his wife was meeting up with her old high school boyfriend and getting plowed in various motels simply by picking up her phone one day and looking through her messages.
As far as cellphones, if your SO is capable, just having physical access to your phone you can do a lot depending on what you want.
If your phone isn't password protected they can install a hidden app that will send all text and other information to their personal phone in real time so they can see who you're talking to. If you have a password on your phone they can use a device that LE uses that will plug into your phone that will just download / copy everything and they can go through the files / text messages to find anything incriminating just like LE. I believe it was made just for that purpose for border security when people refused to unlock their phones.
I doubt any SO is going through all this though and buying some device for one time use. Much easier to:
1. Hire a private investor.
2. Install some type of GPS tracking device on your car.
3 Discretely put a voice activated microphone in your vehicle.Very true. If SO wants to dig hard enough they will probably find out.
My problem is I would probably have the extra cell found before the app. As said earlier it's deep in other folders with bloat ware. It must be something already in the cell. "wink wink". Also I erase everything after business is done.
So my issue is my Samsung Verizon just updated its security. Great right. But now TextNow doesn't work. I redown loaded TextNow. Which is now working somewhat. Its only wifi now. App says it need me to copy IICID. And it will work with out wifi. Which is probably the Sim card info. The other issues is the app itself is very invasive with wanting permission to almost everything. I always shut it down and turn it all off after using app. But Now the Sim card info. So now the extra Cell maybe a better option or a better text app that hides cell number. I was just wondering anyone using an app that works great even if it's a couple dollars a month. Though. The new bill maybe another thing that I would have to explain if found. Thanks, guys for your inputs.
So I'm like 2+ weeks into this 3rd try with a sugar baby site. This time Seeking Arrangements. I've hooked up with 2 women so far. One is definitely an escort and per DMs I got "high volume" for a UTR. Good though, great in the sack. Seen her 2 x, 2nd time at my place for MSOG. Just saw a second. Legit civilian (pretty sure? Went to her place. Hung out, got invited upstairs. All bare, no CIP. Got some stuff in common so promising. Negotiated the money AFTER. Seriously.
A couple of thoughts:
1) my goal was to get 2-3 woman reasonably close that I can see regularly. 2-3 to hedge for the instability. 2 weeks in and that looks like mission accomplished. Got another lined up in a few days.
2) it's fucking work. Honestly. Really time consuming to have enough lines in the water to get the nibbles to land the fish. Hard to sustain. For me personally partly b / c I'm more of an introvert so chatting up strangers is stressful. Anyway, if you pay the money commit to put in the time.
3) you can definitely get laid. Two weeks and trying to work it and I've found 2 that I've actually seen, probably 2 more that were legit possibilities (ppm escorts, I just couldn't make it happen logistically).
4) the skills you learn sniffing out fakes and scams on StG or similar sites are transferable. That chick that looks like Barbie with a boob job is just as fake on SA as StG.
(Cross posted in Philly Sugar blog below as well).
So I'm at the end of my month. I have to say it was a success although like many things in life you get out of it what you put into it. Takes work and persistence. I've seen 3 woman (2 2 x each and 1 just for lunch) and another I'm texting with and am told by others in the Philly Sugar blog that she's available. So assuming my upcoming 'date' with the lunch woman goes well and assuming I can get with the 4th, I hit my goal of meeting 3-4 woman, all relatively local (suburbs). A couple of notes:
1) Moving to texts and then asking to meet does shake out the bullshit.
2) I don't think any are hard drug users. A couple of years into this, and watching someone slowly die last year, this is big for me.
3) 1 of the 4 (at least) is just a UTR but legit escort.
4) Prices are higher (200-300) but the 4 times we got together (2 different women) it was in my place or hers (hotel once) for 2-3 hours with longer session. 2 were MSOG. I've heard of women asking $500-$700/ meet but I didn't see that. I also didn't click on the chicks that look like Barbie.
5) One, I think, is really a legit civilian. Has her own place, FT job etc. I think she might just be in it for the dick. The first time I went over we went upstairs before we even set a price.
6) I think there's definitely bots and scammers out there and you get a lot of interest from Venezuela, Russia, England etc. Those are all easy to avoid. I think the bigger issue is some women aren't serious about ass for cash and are just on there hoping someone just gives them money. The skills you learn sniffing out the scams on StG or the other escort sites are transferable.
All in all, worth it for the $90 especially if I can keep these 4 in the mix. My plan is to have one be a weekly regular and the rest will be semi-regular, like a time or two a month. I'm cancelling my membership before it renews.
So I'm like 2+ weeks into this 3rd try with a sugar baby site. This time Seeking Arrangements. I've hooked up with 2 women so far. One is definitely an escort and per DMs I got "high volume" for a UTR. Good though, great in the sack. Seen her 2 x, 2nd time at my place for MSOG. Just saw a second. Legit civilian (pretty sure? Went to her place. Hung out, got invited upstairs. All bare, no CIP. Got some stuff in common so promising. Negotiated the money AFTER. Seriously.
A couple of thoughts:
1) my goal was to get 2-3 woman reasonably close that I can see regularly. 2-3 to hedge for the instability. 2 weeks in and that looks like mission accomplished. Got another lined up in a few days.
2) it's fucking work. Honestly. Really time consuming to have enough lines in the water to get the nibbles to land the fish. Hard to sustain. For me personally partly b / c I'm more of an introvert so chatting up strangers is stressful. Anyway, if you pay the money commit to put in the time.
3) you can definitely get laid. Two weeks and trying to work it and I've found 2 that I've actually seen, probably 2 more that were legit possibilities (ppm escorts, I just couldn't make it happen logistically).
4) the skills you learn sniffing out fakes and scams on StG or similar sites are transferable. That chick that looks like Barbie with a boob job is just as fake on SA as StG.
Texaco Tim
03-10-21, 19:34
Many thanks JTerry26 for taking the time to relate your experiences in an area I and probably many others have no clue of what to expect.
Have been tempted to try this route and with what you have shown, it looks good.
If I go there I will follow your example and post my adventures. TT.
(Cross posted in Philly Sugar blog below as well).
So I'm at the end of my month. I have to say it was a success although like many things in life you get out of it what you put into it. Takes work and persistence. I've seen 3 woman (2 2 x each and 1 just for lunch) and another I'm texting with and am told by others in the Philly Sugar blog that she's available. So assuming my upcoming 'date' with the lunch woman goes well and assuming I can get with the 4th, I hit my goal of meeting 3-4 woman, all relatively local (suburbs). A couple of notes.Thanks for the info. I am on WYP and SA at this time and was in the past also with possible ladies but didn't pay and eventually deleted both. This time I decided to try this route instead of my years with escorts. Things are dead with escorts now. Guess cause they getting stimulus checks and extra money for unemployment. That shit stops and I think we will all get busy again. Anyways, I had more luck this time with WYP On messages so paid fee for credits and crossed my fingers. I agree about using skills to catch fakes like on STG. I am talking with one now and another soon I believe. I will push for text and meet as you say to help eliminate BS. Stay safe.
Thanks for the info. I am on WYP and SA at this time and was in the past also with possible ladies but didn't pay and eventually deleted both. This time I decided to try this route instead of my years with escorts. Things are dead with escorts now. Guess cause they getting stimulus checks and extra money for unemployment. That shit stops and I think we will all get busy again. Anyways, I had more luck this time with WYP On messages so paid fee for credits and crossed my fingers. I agree about using skills to catch fakes like on STG. I am talking with one now and another soon I believe. I will push for text and meet as you say to help eliminate BS. Stay safe.What's WYP?
What's WYP?What's Your Price.
What's WYP?Whatsyourpricedotcom.
What's WYP?What's Your Price? WYP. Me, I'm just an 'OL Gator.
Many thanks to JTerry26 for taking the time to share his stroll down the Sugar Highway. I pretty much agree 100% with his findings and experiences. It does take some digging, skills and finesse to sort out the pros, scammers. Users, BS. I have found it helpful to do your due diligence and above all trust your gut. The times I have ignored the red or even yellow flags have been drama filled. I have been on WYP, SA and even AM. I have found SA to be not the best but at least better chances of a legit connection. Occasionally also had some luck on Tinder too, but that slow going there. These tough COVID times definitely require some extra creativity and resourcefulness.
(Cross posted in Philly Sugar blog below as well).
So I'm at the end of my month. I have to say it was a success although like many things in life you get out of it what you put into it. Takes work and persistence. I've seen 3 woman (2 2 x each and 1 just for lunch) and another I'm texting with and am told by others in the Philly Sugar blog that she's available. So assuming my upcoming 'date' with the lunch woman goes well and assuming I can get with the 4th, I hit my goal of meeting 3-4 woman, all relatively local (suburbs). A couple of notes:
1) Moving to texts and then asking to meet does shake out the bullshit.
2) I don't think any are hard drug users. A couple of years into this, and watching someone slowly die last year, this is big for me.
3) 1 of the 4 (at least) is just a UTR but legit escort.
4) Prices are higher (200-300) but the 4 times we got together (2 different women) it was in my place or hers (hotel once) for 2-3 hours with longer session. 2 were MSOG. I've heard of women asking $500-$700/ meet but I didn't see that. I also didn't click on the chicks that look like Barbie.
5) One, I think, is really a legit civilian. Has her own place, FT job etc. I think she might just be in it for the dick. The first time I went over we went upstairs before we even set a price.
6) I think there's definitely bots and scammers out there and you get a lot of interest from Venezuela, Russia, England etc. Those are all easy to avoid. I think the bigger issue is some women aren't serious about ass for cash and are just on there hoping someone just gives them money. The skills you learn sniffing out the scams on StG or the other escort sites are transferable.
All in all, worth it for the $90 especially if I can keep these 4 in the mix. My plan is to have one be a weekly regular and the rest will be semi-regular, like a time or two a month. I'm cancelling my membership before it renews.
What's WYP?I dd that years ago, what a scam. You have to pay for credits and cannot see a girl's details until you spend credits to make her and offer. Oh and girls will send offers or something, all to get you to burn through your credits and buy more. After all, all the site has to sell are credits, so.
The worst part is that there are all kinds of WARNINGS all over the site about P2 P being prohibited, sex should not be expected, you are paying for her time only. So it is VERY popular with girls who think they can eat your food and get free drinks at a fancy place and get paid to do it! I mean, you know the number of lakes you get with SA, so the same there, but you credits are gone, buy more. Then when you do get a girl to reply, she wants $300 to have drinks or she demands dinner at a 5-star restaurant.
So no idea why anyone plays that game. But I guess there must be a bunch of dweebs who can't get a girl and are willing to pay hundred to pay for her dinner, or it wouldn't work.
Many thanks to JTerry26 for taking the time to share his stroll down the Sugar Highway. I pretty much agree 100% with his findings and experiences. It does take some digging, skills and finesse to sort out the pros, scammers. Users, BS. I have found it helpful to do your due diligence and above all trust your gut. The times I have ignored the red or even yellow flags have been drama filled. I have been on WYP, SA and even AM. I have found SA to be not the best but at least better chances of a legit connection. Occasionally also had some luck on Tinder too, but that slow going there. These tough COVID times definitely require some extra creativity and resourcefulness.I had Tinder going at the same time. I didn't pay as much attention to it, so effort in / results out matters, but I found it frustrating and pointless. One, I kept trying to limit the ages to under 40 but it kept recommending women 50+. It also did a poor job with keeping the recommendations close by*. As things picked up with SA I barely looked at it and then I deleted it a week early. Maybe there's some Tinder how-to that would make it more useful. I suspect you have to do the upgrades and whatnot to get real action.
*Same goes for SA. You get interest from all over the country and the world. You should be able to not only set your search parameters by miles away, but also block interest outside of your specified radius. I really DGAF if 3 women in Venezuela want to meet me.
Big Thanks to JTerry26 for sharing his experiences.
It would be great to hear how it works out for you Texaco Tim.
I signed up for both WYP and SA. I'm leaning towards SA. I am kind of waiting for my Covid vaccine first, also to have the time to put into this.
The escort business has been frustrating. With some with bad drug habits. Sometimes changing times to meet or the ghosting. Up selling. The lack of quality. The shady side of the business.
So any Info from these other ways to connect with women who enjoy sexual encounters will be very helpful.
Big Thanks to JTerry26 for sharing his experiences.
It would be great to hear how it works out for you Texaco Tim.
I signed up for both WYP and SA. I'm leaning towards SA. I am kind of waiting for my Covid vaccine first, also to have the time to put into this.
The escort business has been frustrating. With some with bad drug habits. Sometimes changing times to meet or the ghosting. Up selling. The lack of quality. The shady side of the business.
So any Info from these other ways to connect with women who enjoy sexual encounters will be very helpful.JT is the exception to the norm. Trust me, I know firsthand that these sb sites are a ripoff so don't waste your money. Also don't even think about Secret Benefits. That site is a total scam job.
WookieWonka
03-19-21, 22:23
I had some recent luck finding women around check out time at a cheap motel. Cost for a night or two at the motel got me 2 to 4 hours of fun. They had their bag (s) and were on foot leaving. Just said hi and asked how they were and what was going on and that led to them paying for their recently vacated room and us going back in to hang out for a few hours. 1 cup of coffee with one and 2 cups with another. I'd say they were UTR. This was in the Bristol / Levittown areas. YMMV.
Kingmaletx
03-26-21, 23:44
I've dabbled on all these sites in the past, and here is my assessment.
What's your price. Stay away, unless you're 70 and all you want is a dinner date. One profile summarized it for me: "let me be your eye candy for the night;" you are just paying to be seen with somebody. Waste of time, money.
Secret benefits. Pay I think 50 or 60 dollars to join, and you get 10 credits. Each time you message a girl or accept a message from a new girl, that's a credit gone. So basically, let's say, talk to a girl for 5/6 dollars each. Problem is, the site uses bots that can artificially talk to you as if they are real women.
And I know that because I travel up and down from PA down to SC, and when I joined, I happened to be in the Maryland area, so I messaged 2 of the women that contacted me there. What I found odd is that both of them were pretty much saying the same thing, that led to, here is my number, text me; when I texted them, the response was, hey, can you text me later, busy now, or hey, was waiting for your text. Then nothing back.
I then was on my way to VA; get on the site, scanned the profiles, saw one I liked, messaged the person, and literally the response, was almost the same as the one in MD, so I said, you're going to ask me to text you. And of course, the bot replied, here is my number, text me. I text the number, and of course, response was, hey sweetie, was waiting for you to text me or something like that. Either I was unlucky, or yea, the site is full of bots.
Soooo, out of the 10 women I messaged, 1 turned out to be real. We met up and that's when I learned the term, fatfished. She turned out to be way fatter than her pics and I was like, no thank you. So stay away from SB.
Seeking arrangement. Sign up, don't pay right away, and put yourself in another town, let's say Pittsburgh if you're in Philly. Why? Because women will start messaging you and you will be tempted to want to reply. Instead, check the site daily and eventually you'll get a coupon for 25% off or 30% off. Whichever. Then change your location. I happened to join summer last year, and right before TIK TOK took over (yea, ill explain). So my membership was about 60 dollars I think? Can't remember. But holy cow. At the time, plenty of single moms, students hurting, and honestly, I couldn't keep up with the messages so it came down to filtering for 21-26 year olds and yep, fun times were had, but the thing is, these women expected me to see them 2 x times a week; they really wanted a sugar daddy to pay their bills, blah blah blah. I would tell them after the date, listen, I'm really busy with work, ill call you up to set up a 2nd date. Hell no. On to the next woman. What's laughable is the 40-60 yr old women on there demanding 5 to 6 benjamins because they got experience. Seriously?
Anyway. I only kept the membership for a month, but lined up enough contacts to hit them up after; the main problem is that yea, women want to make an arrangement, so the standard line applies: sure, let's go on a date, see if we mentally and physically vibe, and then we can talk about that; I don't like to get into arrangements when there is no vibe. Deed done, sorry honey, vibe wasn't there. Good luck to you.
Question is always, well how much are the dates. Really depends on the women. If you're willing to go to the mountains, had some dates those areas for over night fun for less than 2 benjamin; but in the philly area, 3 to 4 benjamins, and some of the women are hustlers, and you can tell that when they tell you, I only date serious SDS and I expect to be paid hourly for my time. Those are the so called "professionals. " My job was to try to hit up the new profiles b / c many joined not knowing what to expect.
Anyway. What happened was, with the pandemic and all, TIK TOK videos came out telling women, get on seeking, and this is how you get free money and free meals. So these tik tok tutorials tell women to do the following:
Choose a fake location.
Talk to the men, tell them you are away taking care of a family member or whatever is reasonable.
Tell them youll meet them but they need to send you gas money.
If they don't, then tell them you will meet up for lunch / dinner and you expect a "gift".
And on the 2nd date, youll get physical.
AFter first date and gift is given, disappear.
And yep, this began happening to me. I would speak to a woman, next thing I know, she would say, BTW, I'm not in town at the moment, but when I get back we can have fun; but if you want, I can try to come to you now, I'm just short in cash; can you cashapp me 50 dollars.
Not sure when this began to happen, but I want to say November? And now seeking has turned on to a scamming game; it used to be that most of the women who messaged me in the past were legit, but as of last February (I quit the membership), out of 10 women I chatted with, 9 were scammers; so it was taking a lot of time to filter through them, so seeking is no longer the treasure it used to be, and the price increased to 100 a month. At the moment, no longer a member, but maybe I'll come back in a couple of months.
In the meantime, back to plenty of fish and looking for the single moms hurt by the economy.
I've dabbled on all these sites in the past, and here is my assessment...
Great intel. Thanks!
Burbs Monger
03-27-21, 09:21
Good info, but wanted to make sure you know there is an existing SB thread called Philadelphia Sugar where this post is better suited. It is located in the user blog section.
Thanks and Be Safe.
I've dabbled on all these sites in the past, and here is my assessment.
What's your price. Stay away, unless you're 70 and all you want is a dinner date. One profile summarized it for me: "let me be your eye candy for the night;" you are just paying to be seen with somebody. Waste of time, money.
Secret benefits. Pay I think 50 or 60 dollars to join, and you get 10 credits. Each time you message a girl or accept a message from a new girl, that's a credit gone. So basically, let's say, talk to a girl for 5/6 dollars each. Problem is, the site uses bots that can artificially talk to you as if they are real women.
And I know that because I travel up and down from PA down to SC, and when I joined, I happened to be in the Maryland area, so I messaged 2 of the women that contacted me there. What I found odd is that both of them were pretty much saying the same thing, that led to, here is my number, text me; when I texted them, the response was, hey, can you text me later, busy now, or hey, was waiting for your text. Then nothing back.
I then was on my way to VA; get on the site, scanned the profiles, saw one I liked, messaged the person, and literally the response, was almost the same as the one in MD, so I said, you're going to ask me to text you. And of course, the bot replied, here is my number, text me. I text the number, and of course, response was, hey sweetie, was waiting for you to text me or something like that. Either I was unlucky, or yea, the site is full of bots.
Soooo, out of the 10 women I messaged, 1 turned out to be real. We met up and that's when I learned the term, fatfished. She turned out to be way fatter than her pics and I was like, no thank you. So stay away from SB.
Seeking arrangement. Sign up, don't pay right away, and put yourself in another town, let's say Pittsburgh if you're in Philly. Why? Because women will start messaging you and you will be tempted to want to reply. Instead, check the site daily and eventually you'll get a coupon for 25% off or 30% off. Whichever. Then change your location. I happened to join summer last year, and right before TIK TOK took over (yea, ill explain). So my membership was about 60 dollars I think? Can't remember. But holy cow. At the time, plenty of single moms, students hurting, and honestly, I couldn't keep up with the messages so it came down to filtering for 21-26 year olds and yep, fun times were had, but the thing is, these women expected me to see them 2 x times a week; they really wanted a sugar daddy to pay their bills, blah blah blah. I would tell them after the date, listen, I'm really busy with work, ill call you up to set up a 2nd date. Hell no. On to the next woman. What's laughable is the 40-60 yr old women on there demanding 5 to 6 benjamins because they got experience. Seriously?
Anyway. I only kept the membership for a month, but lined up enough contacts to hit them up after; the main problem is that yea, women want to make an arrangement, so the standard line applies: sure, let's go on a date, see if we mentally and physically vibe, and then we can talk about that; I don't like to get into arrangements when there is no vibe. Deed done, sorry honey, vibe wasn't there. Good luck to you.
Question is always, well how much are the dates. Really depends on the women. If you're willing to go to the mountains, had some dates those areas for over night fun for less than 2 benjamin; but in the philly area, 3 to 4 benjamins, and some of the women are hustlers, and you can tell that when they tell you, I only date serious SDS and I expect to be paid hourly for my time. Those are the so called "professionals. " My job was to try to hit up the new profiles b / c many joined not knowing what to expect.
Anyway. What happened was, with the pandemic and all, TIK TOK videos came out telling women, get on seeking, and this is how you get free money and free meals. So these tik tok tutorials tell women to do the following:
Choose a fake location.
Talk to the men, tell them you are away taking care of a family member or whatever is reasonable.
Tell them youll meet them but they need to send you gas money.
If they don't, then tell them you will meet up for lunch / dinner and you expect a "gift".
And on the 2nd date, youll get physical.
AFter first date and gift is given, disappear.
And yep, this began happening to me. I would speak to a woman, next thing I know, she would say, BTW, I'm not in town at the moment, but when I get back we can have fun; but if you want, I can try to come to you now, I'm just short in cash; can you cashapp me 50 dollars.
Not sure when this began to happen, but I want to say November? And now seeking has turned on to a scamming game; it used to be that most of the women who messaged me in the past were legit, but as of last February (I quit the membership), out of 10 women I chatted with, 9 were scammers; so it was taking a lot of time to filter through them, so seeking is no longer the treasure it used to be, and the price increased to 100 a month. At the moment, no longer a member, but maybe I'll come back in a couple of months.
In the meantime, back to plenty of fish and looking for the single moms hurt by the economy.
Great intel. Thanks!Yes, thanks for taking the time to post about your experiences.
There has got to be a better way for reasonable, consenting adults to make contact without putting in so much time.
Met an extremely pretty blonde in her early 20's off the Ave. Grabbed her number and have seen her several times. Service is a bit mechanical but her flawless looks make for great memories. Legit trade of other numbers of UTRs welcome via PM. Thanks.
Met an extremely pretty blonde in her early 20's off the Ave. Grabbed her number and have seen her several times. Service is a bit mechanical but her flawless looks make for great memories. Legit trade of other numbers of UTRs welcome via PM. Thanks.Sent you PM.
Fantasticki14
06-28-21, 00:42
I see a few agencies listed there in the Philly area, anyone used them before?
I see a few agencies listed there in the Philly area, anyone used them before?High end girls. Expect to pay a premium price. Expect non-druggie girl, with perfect hygiene, make-up and dress. Expect 4-star hotel or discrete apartment. Expect the lady to be able to sense or "figure out" your needs, be responsive to desires and provide a top-notch experience. This ain't Tab A in Slot B.
But you can find some BP kinda girls on there trying to sell a sows ear as a silk purse.
But specific info can be had by asking about any one particular agency.
I see a few agencies listed there in the Philly area, anyone used them before?Read back on this forum. Also try the search feature. There can be some leads on Eros, but they should be verified independently through some other means because a lot of the ads there are bogus. "Eros Verified" is meaningless so don't pay any attention to that.
Fantasticki14
08-21-21, 13:37
High end girls. Expect to pay a premium price. Expect non-druggie girl, with perfect hygiene, make-up and dress. Expect 4-star hotel or discrete apartment. Expect the lady to be able to sense or "figure out" your needs, be responsive to desires and provide a top-notch experience. This ain't Tab A in Slot B.
But you can find some BP kinda girls on there trying to sell a sows ear as a silk purse.
But specific info can be had by asking about any one particular agency.Finally will be in Philly again. Any experience with this one? Joy's Companions https://www.eros.com/pennsylvania/philadelphia/files/2414431.htm?cat=1.
PhillyDwag
08-23-21, 18:03
Finally will be in Philly again. Any experience with this one? Joy's Companions https://www.eros.com/pennsylvania/philadelphia/files/2414431.htm?cat=1.It has been around a very long time. Never read of bad reviews. Check out TER might give you better info.
Finally will be in Philly again. Any experience with this one? Joy's Companions https://www.eros.com/pennsylvania/philadelphia/files/2414431.htm?cat=1.Yeah, I went there many years ago! Prolly at least 10 years. It is in a high rise Apt building near the Art Museum. You go in the lobby and "sign in" with a doorman / receptionist. Might not be a bad idea to 'tip' the dude a Jackson? Anyway, get off the elevator, knock on the Apt door and get greeted by your date. Well appointed Apt. Get shown into a BR and offered full use of an on-suite bathroom. Very hush-hush place. Never heard another human being other than the girl from getting off the elevator to getting back to the ground floor.
You will need to call in advance and make an appointment. There is screening involved, so be prepared for REAL IRL info. They are DISCREET! Also, be as upfront as possible about desires, but be careful. Too much might get you eliminated.
I have to wonder how any place stays UTR for a decade or more. I guess if you are "in" you are in good company!
BeefNoodleSoup
08-24-21, 01:36
Yeah, I went there many years ago! Prolly at least 10 years. It is in a high rise Apt building near the Art Museum. You go in the lobby and "sign in" with a doorman / receptionist. Might not be a bad idea to 'tip' the dude a Jackson? Anyway, get off the elevator, knock on the Apt door and get greeted by your date. Well appointed Apt. Get shown into a BR and offered full use of an on-suite bathroom. Very hush-hush place. Never heard another human being other than the girl from getting off the elevator to getting back to the ground floor.
You will need to call in advance and make an appointment. There is screening involved, so be prepared for REAL IRL info. They are DISCREET! Also, be as upfront as possible about desires, but be careful. Too much might get you eliminated.
I have to wonder how any place stays UTR for a decade or more. I guess if you are "in" you are in good company!There's an escort who goes by Kodak who used to work there. She has some negative things to say about the place but from what I hear, joy's is good but expensive.
There's an escort who goes by Kodak who used to work there. She has some negative things to say about the place but from what I hear, joy's is good but expensive.Care to share the "negative things" Kodak had to say about Joy's? That would be interesting to learn.
Yep, anytime you get a girl off Tryst or Eros and they are perfectly manicured and attired and in a 5-star location, then yeah, one ain't paying street rates nor listcrawler rates. Use to be an older blonde working there that had a porno on one of the sites in typical P.S. Fashion.
Care to share the "negative things" Kodak had to say about Joy's? That would be interesting to learn.
Yep, anytime you get a girl off Tryst or Eros and they are perfectly manicured and attired and in a 5-star location, then yeah, one ain't paying street rates nor listcrawler rates. Use to be an older blonde working there that had a porno on one of the sites in typical P.S. Fashion.Is this the Kodak you're talking about?
Is this the Kodak you're talking about?Just a quick note on Kodak. What happened with Kodak and Joy had little to nothing to do with the establishment in the city. The issues are well over two years old. While she worked there she was always the first choice for anyone that knew her.
Kodak was experiencing some difficult personal issues at that time and as they do sometimes, they got in the way of business. Some feathers got ruffled and have been smoothed out for a very long time. Kodak is still busy doing what she does. And like always doing it well. She still looks very good and takes good care of herself. Me, I'm just an 'OL Gator.
. Kodak is still busy doing what she does. And like always doing it well. She still looks very good and takes good care of herself. Me, I'm just an 'OL Gator.
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Nice to know. I stayed away, because if memory serves there was some YMMV kind of discussion about her on the boards. Didn't someone say there is a dude involved? Then one video of her on one of the sites has her BF, Handler or whatever, talking to her and giving directions. Indies I don't mind, Handled girls is a no fly if ID'ed up front.
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Nice to know. I stayed away, because if memory serves there was some YMMV kind of discussion about her on the boards. Didn't someone say there is a dude involved? Then one video of her on one of the sites has her BF, Handler or whatever, talking to her and giving directions. Indies I don't mind, Handled girls is a no fly if ID'ed up front.I saw that too. Sounded like a pimp to me.
BeefNoodleSoup
08-27-21, 01:13
Is this the Kodak you're talking about?Yeah. She's pretty chill most of the time. Last time I saw her was in a house in the ne. She bounced around some hotels after joys and was a bit bitchy during those times. She's an open addict. There is a dude / bf but I've never really had issues.There may also be cameras. I saw one but it wasn't plugged in but I wouldn't be surprised if there are some hidden ones.
For all you more experienced monger who get all misty eyed at the good ol' Backpage days. https://apnews.com/article/business-trials-3b1c9d3e59e90cd60764b3eb989fec80.
For all you more experienced monger who get all misty eyed at the good ol' Backpage days. https://apnews.com/article/business-trials-3b1c9d3e59e90cd60764b3eb989fec80.Wow! How does a female judge declare a mistrial when women were exploited on the site? But I wonder if the law that was in place that allowed website immunity will once again prevail and let these dudes (scumbags) off the hook? These guys were the reason for SESTA-FOSTA law. Maybe the prosecutors jumped the gun and should have waited to shut down BP till they had SESTA-FOSTA evidence.
Thanks for sharing!
For all you more experienced monger who get all misty eyed at the good ol' Backpage days. https://apnews.com/article/business-trials-3b1c9d3e59e90cd60764b3eb989fec80.There's an old adage; Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely.
The Government has tried to frame the facilitators of the sex industry as "trafficking children". That's how they planted the cameras in the massage parlor that nailed Patriot's owner, Robert Kraft. That was the main justification for taking down Backpage when any honest analysis of their business model would show there was very little of that going on. Even one instance is one instance too many but it has given the government Carte Blanche to do whatever it pleases.
I long for the days of Backpage because it plied it's trade on the true market dynamics of supply and demand. It gave the girls instant access to the cash being spent in the hobby and allowed the Mongers a wide array of choices and prices. I could make a strong argument that shutting down Backpage didn't put a dent into the money being spent on prostitution, it only endangered the providers and made the hobby more expensive for the mongers. But the Government feels like it's making a difference and it's negative impact is mostly on the marginalized and voiceless. It's sort of like pissing in your wetsuit, its gives you a nice feeling all over while doing nothing to accomplish the true objective.
There's an old adage; Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely.
The Government has tried to frame the facilitators of the sex industry as "trafficking children". That's how they planted the cameras in the massage parlor that nailed Patriot's owner, Robert Kraft. That was the main justification for taking down Backpage when any honest analysis of their business model would show there was very little of that going on. Even one instance is one instance too many but it has given the government Carte Blanche to do whatever it pleases.
I long for the days of Backpage because it plied it's trade on the true market dynamics of supply and demand. It gave the girls instant access to the cash being spent in the hobby and allowed the Mongers a wide array of choices and prices. I could make a strong argument that shutting down Backpage didn't put a dent into the money being spent on prostitution, it only endangered the providers and made the hobby more expensive for the mongers. But the Government feels like it's making a difference and it's negative impact is mostly on the marginalized and voiceless. It's sort of like pissing in your wetsuit, its gives you a nice feeling all over while doing nothing to accomplish the true objective.You make a good point with: "Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely. " And yes, LE tries to use the hot button of "trafficking" as an excuse to shut down the industry. That is the main headline in any news story on prostitution stings, even when everyone encountered is an +18 adult.
But, not to be argumentative but I could not disagree more with this statement:
That was the main justification for taking down Backpage when any honest analysis of their business model would show there was very little of that going on.
So "very little" is OK? Huh? ONE child being sex trafficked is one too many. If one reads the info used to shut down the site, one will learn a long history of BP. There were numerous lawsuits by families against BP when minors were trafficked on the site and those cases were tossed out due to the protections of the Communications Decency Act.
There were any number of NGOs that tried to work with BP to reduce the sex trafficking on its site, but the guys running it thumbed their nose at those efforts! Let's not forget that the guys at BP were "editing" posts, removing code words like "l*lita" and others that indicated an under-aged girl was in play. Instead of banning someone obviously selling girls, BP changed their adverts and took their money.
Shoot the center for Missing & Exploited Children even tried working with BP, but they put profits over protection. A researcher in AZ even tried to work with them and suggested techniques that could be used to manage the issue. Sad reality is that IF BP had paid heed to these efforts and made adjustments, this whole FOSTA-SESTA mess could have been avoided. No, these dudes are scumbags that needed to be taken down.
Also, I like that fact that there are many sites out there now, not just one. Makes it harder to take down the industry. Now it is a whack-a-mole game. So I don't see any stifling of trade by BP's absence, sure same money being spent and many places for girls to ply their trade. Can't see any more danger for girls. The main degradation of the industry is Simps willing to give away their money at any level.
And yes, LE tries to use the hot button of "trafficking" as an excuse to shut down the industry. That is the main headline in any news story on prostitution stings, even when everyone encountered is an +18 adult.To be fair, you don't have to be a child to be trafficked. Anyone in the industry being run by a pimp against their will is being trafficked, underage or not.
Anyone forcing another human to engage in prostitution against (his or) her will deserves to be taken down, and anyone running a site where they turn a blind eye to obvious trafficking (underage or not) also deserves to be taken down.
I clearly have no issue with what two (or more) freely consenting adults wish to do together and whatever arrangement they want to make to do it.
This weekend TV was bombarded with the ads for this product. Some were pretty funny.
Maybe this should be added to the 'Monger Kit"?
While the stench maybe gone or controlled, dirty is still dirty.
https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=lume&docid=608041642718079246&mid=A1180B9D1E80DEFE96B0A1180B9D1E80DEFE96B0&view=detail&FORM=VIRE
Member #6368
11-30-21, 12:45
I am hoping to find someone to come to my hotel at 9:00 or 10:00 PM in center city. Does anyone have a recommendation for an agency that provides night time outcall? Thanks!
I am hoping to find someone to come to my hotel at 9:00 or 10:00 PM in center city. Does anyone have a recommendation for an agency that provides night time outcall? Thanks!Maybe Joy's Companions, with screening and advanced booking?
BlueJjeeper
01-07-22, 18:11
I have a question for the Philadelphia users. A number of the major city locations have a forum for "bareback" or "BBFS" providers. Is there any interest in starting one for Philly for bb / cip / cia providers? It would be easier than constantly asking about each provider in the Escorts thread.
I have a question for the Philadelphia users. A number of the major city locations have a forum for "bareback" or "BBFS" providers. Is there any interest in starting one for Philly for bb / cip / cia providers? It would be easier than constantly asking about each provider in the Escorts thread.Yes. That would be great. That way those of us that are interested know who to go to.
And those that want to avoid these providers know who provides BBFS.
Yes. That would be great. That way those of us that are interested know who to go to.
And those that want to avoid these providers know who provides BBFS.If anyone thinks a girl NOT being on a BBFS list means she doesn't do it, IMHO, they are fooling themself. All girls will do BB if the price is right.
Around here most girls don't want to be on a BBFS list or most guys don't want to admit they plat raw. Just saying.
SlimThick6
01-22-22, 22:38
I have a question for the Philadelphia users. A number of the major city locations have a forum for "bareback" or "BBFS" providers. Is there any interest in starting one for Philly for bb / cip / cia providers? It would be easier than constantly asking about each provider in the Escorts thread.Start one and people will eventually contribute.
I would be interested in other safe ways to remove the unwanted from our cars. Because I had an interesting experience Monday. I thought I would share it with those that might also find it useful. Another tool for the box.
I was out on the strip and met a girl named Cathy. Cute girl in her early thirties. Claimed she was from West Virginia and has only been here two days. So much for the strip drying up theory.
Quite possible she just arrived based upon her attire and baggage. She had on white jeans and a lightweight shawl. She was definitely very cold. I'm no fashionista yet even I know you don't wear white after Labor Day. LOL.
We sat and chatted a while so she could get warm. Then headed for the WaWa to get her some coffee. Once she was warmer we chatted about her offers. I found them attractive and agreed to the meeting.
On the way to the playground, I noticed she nodded off. Oh shit. I thought to myself. I have enough experience in that area to know that usually does not end well.
When we stopped she was snoring. My guess was she took the low-energy vitamins just prior to our meeting. What could I do?
I started slapping her hand, I pinched it. I shook her till I thought her head would fall off. I blasted the radio. Nothing was working. I thought maybe she was going to O D. So I hit her with Narcan. Seemingly no effect.
We sat few minutes while she was out. She was breathing and I know the Narcan saved me from a possible O D in my vehicle. So, now all I need to do is wake her and get her out of the vehicle. What to do?
I sat and thought things out. Then I got what I considered a brilliant idea. In fact, I'm surprised I never thought of this in all the years I've been in the game. The answer was right there in front of me all the time.
I zipped up my coat, dropped the windows about three inches each to cause air movement. I started driving and turned the A / C on blast.
Well, friends, I got to tell you it wasn't five blocks and she was wide awake, shivering her pretty ass. I pulled into a secure spot finished the meeting as agreed. I headed right back and dropped her off so she could have easy access to the area shops she visits.
I told her how sorry I was about the heater breaking at the worst possible time. I doubt she even knows she was Narcanned.
I dropped her off and she mentioned what a nice guy I am as she was leaving.
So, any of you get someone in your vehicle you need to remove safely and maybe they are nodding, remember either the heater in summer or the A / C in the winter can be very useful tools.
You can tell them to go to hell and make them happy to be on their way. Me, I'm just an 'OL Gator.
WookieWonka
01-25-22, 11:39
I would be interested in other safe ways to remove the unwanted from our cars. Because I had an interesting experience Monday. I thought I would share it with those that might also find it useful. Another tool for the box.
I was out on the strip and met a girl named Cathy. Cute girl in her early thirties. Claimed she was from West Virginia and has only been here two days. So much for the strip drying up theory.
Quite possible she just arrived based upon her attire and baggage. She had on white jeans and a lightweight shawl. She was definitely very cold. I'm no fashionista yet even I know you don't wear white after Labor Day. LOL.
We sat and chatted a while so she could get warm. Then headed for the WaWa to get her some coffee. Once she was warmer we chatted about her offers. I found them attractive and agreed to the meeting.
On the way to the playground, I noticed she nodded off. Oh shit. I thought to myself. I have enough experience in that area to know that usually does not end well.
When we stopped she was snoring. My guess was she took the low-energy vitamins just prior to our meeting. What could I do?
I started slapping her hand, I pinched it. I shook her till I thought her head would fall off. I blasted the radio. Nothing was working. I thought maybe she was going to O D. So I hit her with Narcan. Seemingly no effect.
We sat few minutes while she was out. She was breathing and I know the Narcan saved me from a possible O D in my vehicle. So, now all I need to do is wake her and get her out of the vehicle. What to do?
I sat and thought things out. Then I got what I considered a brilliant idea. In fact, I'm surprised I never thought of this in all the years I've been in the game. The answer was right there in front of me all the time.
I zipped up my coat, dropped the windows about three inches each to cause air movement. I started driving and turned the A / C on blast.
Well, friends, I got to tell you it wasn't five blocks and she was wide awake, shivering her pretty ass. I pulled into a secure spot finished the meeting as agreed. I headed right back and dropped her off so she could have easy access to the area shops she visits.
I told her how sorry I was about the heater breaking at the worst possible time. I doubt she even knows she was Narcanned.
I dropped her off and she mentioned what a nice guy I am as she was leaving.
So, any of you get someone in your vehicle you need to remove safely and maybe they are nodding, remember either the heater in summer or the A / C in the winter can be very useful tools.
You can tell them to go to hell and make them happy to be on their way. Me, I'm just an 'OL Gator.Narcan? Thats going above and beyond.
Narcan? Thats going above and beyond.Not sure what the question is? Narcan is a responsible response to a possible OD. When there is no response to mild pain stimulation or loud sounds that indicates a possible OD Narcan should be given. Me, I'm just an 'OL Gator.
Narcan? Thats going above and beyond.Maybe.
Looks like one monger manages risks of the streets by being prepared for ALL contingencies.
What's better having Narcan to save a dying girl or have her OD in your car and then having to take her to an ER or 'splain to LE what was going on???
I'm sure there are other dumb things a monger could do in such a situation, but probably turn an innocent situation into charges for them self.
So yeah, have youse all thought of what legal things you would do in a similar situation? Are you prepared for what the streets dish out?
Maybe.
Looks like one monger manages risks of the streets by being prepared for ALL contingencies.
What's better having Narcan to save a dying girl or have her OD in your car and then having to take her to an ER or 'splain to LE what was going on???
I'm sure there are other dumb things a monger could do in such a situation, but probably turn an innocent situation into charges for them self.
So yeah, have youse all thought of what legal things you would do in a similar situation? Are you prepared for what the streets dish out?Thanks Shampoo. I agree with you about being prepared. It would be foolish for any of us not to be prepared for possible over dose in our vehicle. Any time we venture into the deeper end of the pool we better know how to swim. I think it can be agreed some of those people have a death wish to begin with. Why else would they put some of that stuff in their body? Doubtful they care if they die on the street or our car.
I'm not pointing fingers. I'm just saying we can't get so pussy drunk that we lose sight of the possibility of death from drugs. It is all around us there. Why not take every precaution? To sit back and allow a person to die when we can attempt to prevent that shows poor character on our part. To say the least.
I believe many here are not aware Narcan is available for the asking at no charge at Prevention Point. So, why not take advantage of that safety net. They instruct people on how to use it. Anybody can go in Friday noon till three. Check the hours online to be sure. No questions asked. Simply tell them you want to carry it to be safe or assist when you can. Don't even need to give your name.
Personally, I would prefer to have Narcan than to have any person die in my vehicle and not have it. I can't think of one good reason given the game not to carry it.
I will say this, carrying Narcan is a better option than dealing with a police investigation that could be prevented. How many members here can afford to deal with that if a person dies in their car?
Another reality is the shit the dealers cut the drugs with only increases the possibility of that happening.
I would be curious how others here feel about this. Also, what their actions would be if they did have to deal with a person that overdosed and died in their car. Any takers?
Let's keep in mind people can get arrested for doing to little to save a life. Now, if a girl gets in our vehicle there, chances are it's on a live video feed somewhere. All one needs to do is look around at all the surveillance on the strip.
All that said, safety is our most important tool. Protect ourselves and those with us is important in order to continue the game. Me, I'm just an 'OL Gator.
General thoughts. Got to thinking that it's a good idea to clean out an inbox such that others might reply. Been guilty of that myself!
I've been carrying Narcan for several years, and have had to use it once. But not on someone that was with me, a woman waiting for the trolley in West Philly. It's good to be prepared in the city, it could get you out of a jam, and having some to give away has worked to my advantage. AND it's free, so not really any reason to not have it in the truck.
Thanks Shampoo. I agree with you about being prepared. It would be foolish for any of us not to be prepared for possible over dose in our vehicle. Any time we venture into the deeper end of the pool we better know how to swim. I think it can be agreed some of those people have a death wish to begin with. Why else would they put some of that stuff in their body? Doubtful they care if they die on the street or our car.
I'm not pointing fingers. I'm just saying we can't get so pussy drunk that we lose sight of the possibility of death from drugs. It is all around us there. Why not take every precaution? To sit back and allow a person to die when we can attempt to prevent that shows poor character on our part. To say the least.
I believe many here are not aware Narcan is available for the asking at no charge at Prevention Point. So, why not take advantage of that safety net. They instruct people on how to use it. Anybody can go in Friday noon till three. Check the hours online to be sure. No questions asked. Simply tell them you want to carry it to be safe or assist when you can. Don't even need to give your name.
Personally, I would prefer to have Narcan than to have any person die in my vehicle and not have it. I can't think of one good reason given the game not to carry it.
I will say this, carrying Narcan is a better option than dealing with a police investigation that could be prevented. How many members here can afford to deal with that if a person dies in their car?
Another reality is the shit the dealers cut the drugs with only increases the possibility of that happening.
I would be curious how others here feel about this. Also, what their actions would be if they did have to deal with a person that overdosed and died in their car. Any takers?
Let's keep in mind people can get arrested for doing to little to save a life. Now, if a girl gets in our vehicle there, chances are it's on a live video feed somewhere. All one needs to do is look around at all the surveillance on the strip.
All that said, safety is our most important tool. Protect ourselves and those with us is important in order to continue the game. Me, I'm just an 'OL Gator.
MyDarkSide
01-25-22, 20:19
I've heard some flip out when you crush their high with narcan. Any truth? Not that I've ever cruised around for a sw. bucket list item
I carry narcan but luckily never had to use it. I'm not in the medical field so don't take my words for the gospel but narcan is for when someone has used an opiate and in 20 minutes or more they start to slip away as in their eyes are starting to roll in the back of their head, their lips are starting to turn blue and / or they're not breathing normal (death rattle maybe).
If you're in this situation administer the narcan and use your knuckles to massage right in the middle of the rib cage between a person's breast because it has an odd feeling that will help revive them. And yes, often people who are saved become angry and combative because you robbed them from their high. I would call 911 also to cover your ass.
That said, if you pick a woman up and she falls asleep as you're driving she's probably not overdosing. They're just heavily sedated due to the opiates and xylazine. It's a dam shame. It's very dangerous to be that out of it in strangers cars. I had girls tell me they nodded off in a dates car and woke up sore in areas that shouldn't be or had holes cut out in their clothes or in total different locations that they didn't know about.
Personally I don't like girls using around me to avoid the whole OD issue but once I was in a motel and a date I knew very well wanted to party. She hit twice and she was out on the floor for a total of 4 hours before she came to and took care of me. I just checked on her breathing every so often while I watched TV. Unfortunately as one of my favorites she's gone now. Been 2 years and she barely made it to 30 years of age.
BeefNoodleSoup
01-27-22, 06:17
I've heard some flip out when you crush their high with narcan. Any truth? Not that I've ever cruised around for a sw. bucket list itemCruising for SW is definitely riskier than other options. Given the increase in car jacking and violent crimes, this might not be the best time to start, if you don't have to.
Personally, I think the AMP scene is the best option.
One time I picked up a chick off the street. As we were going to the stomping grounds, we drove past another chick that was knocked out face down in the street on the road next to traffic. I ask the girl I picked up what we should do and she says we should help the second girl. We pull over and check on her and she is not responding. The first girl yells for help and asks if anyone has narcan while I try to get the second girl to wake up. Eventually, the second girl wakes up but starts flipping out. She was pissed about the possibility of being narcaned and accused me of being a cop or something.
Weird experience.
Anyone seen this guy's videos before?
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCOuf_kStlWnhuauw4ce8l-w
CooperTown
04-01-22, 16:13
Hi, I will be driving from Cincinnati and getting to downtown Philly Sunday afternoon. Anyone a must see? I'll be there a few days but will have very limited availability other than Sunday evening.
Hi, I will be driving from Cincinnati and getting to downtown Philly Sunday afternoon. Anyone a must see? I'll be there a few days but will have very limited availability other than Sunday evening.Nana at AZN delight. 10XX Wood st. Google for phone number. She works only Sunday and Monday now. Call and make an appointment. She built great. Big man mades. Great ass and gives great service. $$ gets BBBJ She's very nice too. Good luck.
Hi, I will be driving from Cincinnati and getting to downtown Philly Sunday afternoon. Anyone a must see? I'll be there a few days but will have very limited availability other than Sunday evening.$$ also gets table shower, massage BBBJ, and cfs.
Nana at AZN delight. 10XX Wood st. Google for phone number. She works only Sunday and Monday now. Call and make an appointment. She built great. Big man mades. Great ass and gives great service. $$ gets BBBJ She's very nice too. Good luck.How old would you say she is?
How old would you say she is?I'd say late thirties.
CooperTown
04-03-22, 19:31
Hi, I will be driving from Cincinnati and getting to downtown Philly Sunday afternoon. Anyone a must see? I'll be there a few days but will have very limited availability other than Sunday evening.I appreciate the advice and a couple people that reached out, thank you.
Still no luck. Any girls on Tryst worth seeing?
Gator, do you think the test strips will make a difference? My take was that everyone in Kensington already know that what they're using is Fentanyl, in fact I've met people that won't buy in Philly because of that. And yes, you are correct: tensions are at an all time high, and the value of human life is at an all time low. What's going to give? For the last 6-7 years every month I think it can't possibly get worse, but here we are.No Farouk, I do not think the test strips will make any difference. Just something the Talking Heads are doing to smokescreen the real issues. Not sure what the remedy might be if there even is one.
People are coming from all over to shove that garbage in their bodies. I spoke with people that came here from Michigan, New Hampshire, and Florida. You name the place and they are here from there. That's a hike just to get high. The only thing I can guess is an underlying death wish. Most of the users aren't stupid simply foolish. You and I both know there are safer places to get drugs than here.
The issues facing the addicts are so compounded. Not really complicated. Just made complicated by the politicians. The girls want to get off the stuff yet the system and bureaucracy will not allow them to. All part of the creative accounting process put in place to make money for those that least need it.
The addicts need identification which by the time they decide they have had enough has long ago been stolen. The politicians know this.
They have difficulty with insurance coverage for the same reasons. Many simply give up trying and feel the best place for them is actually the worst place for them. The street. Because of these issues, we have tragedies like Bree, Angelica, Michelle, Nicole, and countless others being lost in a system they cannot get around.
Throw that in the same mix with the current district attorney and Mayor and these lives are basically worthless. By the way, there's a bill in the works to impeach Krasner in Harrisburg for dereliction of duty by allowing the city to escalate to the level it is currently in. Finally, a movement of action that's just to little to late. Even if the impeachment effort is successful he only has eighteen months left in the office anyway. Keep waving that flag.
So the girls continue to walk and die. The guns fire into the night. Many times into the daylight hours. Drug sales are increasing hand over fist. The houses burn and the bodies hit the tally sheets. Nobody does anything because this is the city of the blind. Appreciation of life and self-respect has all been flushed into the sewer of Kensington. Those that can correct it refuse. Just keep that paycheck coming.
I long for the old days when we could cruise the strip and the risk was fairly low. The biggest worry was getting pulled over with one of the girls in the car. Or if a girl would return or fly off with our cash. How minimal those issues now seem. Me, I'm just an 'OL Gator.
Would it make sense to start a thread of just the deceased, where we can discuss our good / bad memories?
No Farouk, I do not think the test strips will make any difference. Just something the Talking Heads are doing to smokescreen the real issues. Not sure what the remedy might be if there even is one.
People are coming from all over to shove that garbage in their bodies. I spoke with people that came here from Michigan, New Hampshire, and Florida. You name the place and they are here from there. That's a hike just to get high. The only thing I can guess is an underlying death wish. Most of the users aren't stupid simply foolish. You and I both know there are safer places to get drugs than here.
The issues facing the addicts are so compounded. Not really complicated. Just made complicated by the politicians. The girls want to get off the stuff yet the system and bureaucracy will not allow them to. All part of the creative accounting process put in place to make money for those that least need it.
The addicts need identification which by the time they decide they have had enough has long ago been stolen. The politicians know this.
They have difficulty with insurance coverage for the same reasons. Many simply give up trying and feel the best place for them is actually the worst place for them. The street. Because of these issues, we have tragedies like Bree, Angelica, Michelle, Nicole, and countless others being lost in a system they cannot get around.
Throw that in the same mix with the current district attorney and Mayor and these lives are basically worthless. By the way, there's a bill in the works to impeach Krasner in Harrisburg for dereliction of duty by allowing the city to escalate to the level it is currently in. Finally, a movement of action that's just to little to late. Even if the impeachment effort is successful he only has eighteen months left in the office anyway. Keep waving that flag.
So the girls continue to walk and die. The guns fire into the night. Many times into the daylight hours. Drug sales are increasing hand over fist. The houses burn and the bodies hit the tally sheets. Nobody does anything because this is the city of the blind. Appreciation of life and self-respect has all been flushed into the sewer of Kensington. Those that can correct it refuse. Just keep that paycheck coming.
I long for the old days when we could cruise the strip and the risk was fairly low. The biggest worry was getting pulled over with one of the girls in the car. Or if a girl would return or fly off with our cash. How minimal those issues now seem. Me, I'm just an 'OL Gator.You gots George Soros money behind the likes of Krasner, so plenty to spread around Harrisburg or wherever. Seems like an experiment that didn't work?
The Impact Of Soros-Funded District Attorneys
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/impact-soros-funded-district-attorneys
Miss the old days of Lynne Abrahams?
Would it make sense to start a thread of just the deceased, where we can discuss our good / bad memories?I don't know why you didn't just create the thread yourself, but OK, here it is:
http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?34582-Girls-Who-Have-Transitioned-to-That-Great-Opium-Den-In-The-Sky&p=5987237#post5987237.
ActionMan609
06-30-22, 16:40
You gots George Soros money behind the likes of Krasner, so plenty to spread around Harrisburg or wherever. Seems like an experiment that didn't work?
Miss the old days of Lynne Abrahams?It's amazing how many people know Soros name, but all the other wealthy elites are throwing money at candidates too. Only difference is Faux "News" doesn't talk about them.
Lynne Abraham sucked in the opposite way, she refused to acknowledged a cop could do wrong. That doesn't help. Bad cops and bad people need to held accountable for their actions. One set or the other should not get a pass.
Lynne Abraham sucked in the opposite way, she refused to acknowledged a cop could do wrong. That doesn't help. Bad cops and bad people need to held accountable for their actions. One set or the other should not get a pass.You'll get no argument from me on that premise! We need a fair system. Was just trying to appease the didn't graduate from HS, law & order types.
I don't live in Philly. I haven't lived in Philly since 1987. I've lived the DC area. I've lived in Ohio. I've lived in South Carolina, Florida, Texas, and a whole lot of places since 1987. (I also spent a year in Kazakhstan.) But somehow every restaurant that I ever go to in Philly and the Philly suburbs knows exactly what I am going to order before I am at the counter. I mean, Tony Luke's on Oregon Ave was probably cooking my pizza steak before I even show up. That pizza place just off US-322 In Upper Chichester having a ham and cheese oven grinder ready-to-serve? I mean, I drove 180 miles, didn't call ahead, and there is exactly what I wanted coming out of the oven. Wida's on LBI, NJ, serving us our Lobster Newburg in under 2 minutes is impossible. I normally complain when the main course shows up before the bread and appetizers do, but this is the exception.
On a serious note, how the hell are you guys CHOOSING to stay in the front seat and get head there? The girl has to basically hunch back bend over from her passenger seat to your driver's seat, climb or hover over the middle console, which in some nicer cars (luxury performance sedans, higher trim models on Accords, Civics, Camrys, etc) is a lot, and then she's giving you head from a side angle when the main nerve on your dick is from the front, not the side. You then might have to adjust your seat too. Man that shit is too much sometimes.
Much easier to just park up somewhere nice and secluded, hop to the back seat, and let her go ham on that shit where there's much more room to get comfortable.
I reliever a few years ago pre Covid go here would be love stings on the avenue. Going after the John's.
Immediate arrest. Car impounded. Face and name in the news.
Haven't heard if this happening for several years. Are prostitution busts and setups a thing of the past?
Will cops arrest you for soliciting prostitute if they see it on the avenue?
It's hard to imagine that letting the zombies openly shoot up but go after John's.
I reliever a few years ago pre Covid go here would be love stings on the avenue. Going after the John's.
Immediate arrest. Car impounded. Face and name in the news.
Haven't heard if this happening for several years. Are prostitution busts and setups a thing of the past?
Will cops arrest you for soliciting prostitute if they see it on the avenue?
It's hard to imagine that letting the zombies openly shoot up but go after John's.Cops will not arrest you for Soliciting a Prostitute.
Also, Bri looks and accts like a Sloth all the time.
Its better to pass her by.
She is firmly in the territory of "If there's NOTHING ELSE out here".
I reliever a few years ago pre Covid go here would be love stings on the avenue. Going after the John's.
Immediate arrest. Car impounded. Face and name in the news.
Haven't heard if this happening for several years. Are prostitution busts and setups a thing of the past?
Will cops arrest you for soliciting prostitute if they see it on the avenue?
It's hard to imagine that letting the zombies openly shoot up but go after John's.First, I haven't heard of undercover police stings in decades. Second, our esteemed DA,Larry Krasner has openly said his office would not be focusing on many small crimes and he went so far as to mention weed and prostitution. As you are generally aware, Philadelphia will set records in 2022 for murder, car jackings and get this, carjackings that occur at gas stations.
Spend 15 minutes driving up and down the open drug market that is known as Kensington Avenue and you will easily see why the police wouldn't look twice at the SW's. They have their hands full making sure the the good citizens of that neighborhood are killing each other.
Lastly, I love to chat up the SW's I meet on our drive to the spot. One of more common questions is whether they have been arrested before or if the cops even bother them. The vast majority of them say the cops don't even look twice at them. Of the few that were arrested, most were arrested for drugs, not sucking dick for twenty dollars.
It's my personal opinion that the biggest risk a monger could take on is when your date asks to pick up some candy before the date. Always say no for the obvious reason but consider the risk if the drug den is under surveillance and the police wait till she gets back in the car and now both of you are equally responsible for drug possession. That's when they will impound your car and you'll have more to answer for than a simple "soliciting a prostitute" Spend 5 minutes googling "Constructive possession" and then you will never allow a SW to pick up her candy in your own car, trust me on that one.
First, I haven't heard of undercover police stings in decades. Second, our esteemed DA,Larry Krasner has openly said his office would not be focusing on many small crimes and he went so far as to mention weed and prostitution. As you are generally aware, Philadelphia will set records in 2022 for murder, car jackings and get this, carjackings that occur at gas stations.
Spend 15 minutes driving up and down the open drug market that is known as Kensington Avenue and you will easily see why the police wouldn't look twice at the SW's. They have their hands full making sure the the good citizens of that neighborhood are killing each other.
Lastly, I love to chat up the SW's I meet on our drive to the spot. One of more common questions is whether they have been arrested before or if the cops even bother them. The vast majority of them say the cops don't even look twice at them. Of the few that were arrested, most were arrested for drugs, not sucking dick for twenty dollars.
It's my personal opinion that the biggest risk a monger could take on is when your date asks to pick up some candy before the date. Always say no for the obvious reason but consider the risk if the drug den is under surveillance and the police wait till she gets back in the car and now both of you are equally responsible for drug possession. That's when they will impound your car and you'll have more to answer for than a simple "soliciting a prostitute" Spend 5 minutes googling "Constructive possession" and then you will never allow a SW to pick up her candy in your own car, trust me on that one.Google Kensington prostitute busts.
2013 and 2009 will come up. It's been more than a few years.
I almost got caught in one over a decade ago on a Saturday night 3 am.
Happened to see the UC officer in his parked car talking into his wire while I was checking at a "SW".
Anyways you're right. With all the crime going on, soliciting is the least of their worries.
I reliever a few years ago pre Covid go here would be love stings on the avenue. Going after the John's.
Immediate arrest. Car impounded. Face and name in the news.
Haven't heard if this happening for several years. Are prostitution busts and setups a thing of the past?
Will cops arrest you for soliciting prostitute if they see it on the avenue?
It's hard to imagine that letting the zombies openly shoot up but go after John's.I spoke to several different girls and they all got caught in the middle of working (some even naked) by uniform cops and the cops told them to leave or they just saw what was going on and walked away.
That said, there is a way to go about knowing cops for the most part won't bother you. Be respectful about it. Don't do anything illegal in front of a cop, don't park in front or near a residential home to do a date and don't litter.
ActionMan609
11-26-22, 10:58
First, I haven't heard of undercover police stings in decades.You mean years, I know firsthand, as I got arrested, went to jail overnight during Krasners time as the DA. They didn't impound my car, although the cop that gave me back my shit when leaving jail had told they did. I found it on Trenton Ave off Lehigh after going to city hall trying to find out where the car was. The cops did steal my money though, I had about 90 on me, it was counted in front of me multiple times. When first arrested, in a warehouse in Juniata where they asked me about gun crimes, which is funny as I'm not that type of person at all, and it's very obvious. When released, I had no money returned, when I asked about it, I got to to shut the fuck up by a screaming micro penised cop, same cop who said my car was impounded. Cops are just as bad as the people they supposedly protect us from.
So I started using Pinger back when I was still married as an alternate way to contact escorts. So I buried the app in the phone and turned off all of the notifications. Fast forward to post-divorce and I'm like fuck it, turn on the notifications. What sound is the default when I get a text from an escort? A cat's meow. Here pussy pussy pussy. It cracks me up everytime.
HankScorpio
02-20-23, 21:01
You mean years, I know firsthand, as I got arrested, went to jail overnight during Krasners time as the DA. They didn't impound my car, although the cop that gave me back my shit when leaving jail had told they did. I found it on Trenton Ave off Lehigh after going to city hall trying to find out where the car was. The cops did steal my money though, I had about 90 on me, it was counted in front of me multiple times. When first arrested, in a warehouse in Juniata where they asked me about gun crimes, which is funny as I'm not that type of person at all, and it's very obvious. When released, I had no money returned, when I asked about it, I got to to shut the fuck up by a screaming micro penised cop, same cop who said my car was impounded. Cops are just as bad as the people they supposedly protect us from.I've never had any major issues with cops. Through the years mongering in Philly, I've had some run-ins with LEO but I just cooperated and I had a clean record and everything was up to date on my car so they just let me go each time.
I don't know if my experience is similar to others here.
Even from the girls, I hear they don't even arrest people anymore. They just make them take some std tests and some classes / counselings. At least, this is what I heard in Philly. I expect things would be very different outside of Philly, especially in neighboring suburbs.
PhillyDiscreet
02-21-23, 09:37
I've never had any major issues with cops. Through the years mongering in Philly, I've had some run-ins with LEO but I just cooperated and I had a clean record and everything was up to date on my car so they just let me go each time.
I don't know if my experience is similar to others here.
Even from the girls, I hear they don't even arrest people anymore. They just make them take some std tests and some classes / counselings. At least, this is what I heard in Philly. I expect things would be very different outside of Philly, especially in neighboring suburbs.Just funny that in Philly you can rob, rape and kill someone and get out the same day but people seem to throw the book at johns and escorts.
Have any mongers gone to a Friday night swingers club where single guys get in?
Please share any experience.
Considering checking it out one of these weekends.
Saints and sinners.
Pleasure garden.
Have any mongers gone to a Friday night swingers club where single guys get in?
Please share any experience.
Considering checking it out one of these weekends.
Saints and sinners.
Pleasure garden.
WookieCookie33
06-28-23, 22:26
Have any mongers gone to a Friday night swingers club where single guys get in?
Please share any experience.
Considering checking it out one of these weekends.
Saints and sinners.
Pleasure garden.I went to one like 5+ years ago. Maybe more. They charged single guys a lot more to get in and they wanted to charge you again to enter the play rooms / area. Seemed to me that the single guys were paying the bills and not getting much out of it. You also had to dress up with proper clothes. There was a dress code to get inside which they didn't enforce until after guys paid to get in. Un refundable. I can understand charging more to gate keep a bit to keep out tourists but the whole scene seemed to be planned around extracting the maximum amount of cash out of the single guys for showing up without a female. I'm not a club guy so take that into account and I'm frugal. I could have gone to an AMP for 2 sessions now for what I spent to visit that "club" over 5 years ago. I'd rather go to BNA in NJ. Its cheap, there is other stuff around if nothing you are into is happening there but I am an old school perv.
I went to one like 5+ years ago. Maybe more. They charged single guys a lot more to get in and they wanted to charge you again to enter the play rooms / area. Seemed to me that the single guys were paying the bills and not getting much out of it. You also had to dress up with proper clothes. There was a dress code to get inside which they didn't enforce until after guys paid to get in. Un refundable. I can understand charging more to gate keep a bit to keep out tourists but the whole scene seemed to be planned around extracting the maximum amount of cash out of the single guys for showing up without a female. I'm not a club guy so take that into account and I'm frugal. I could have gone to an AMP for 2 sessions now for what I spent to visit that "club" over 5 years ago. I'd rather go to BNA in NJ. Its cheap, there is other stuff around if nothing you are into is happening there but I am an old school perv.Actually, from my experience as both a single male (SM) and a couple, in the swinging lifestyle, single guys are looked down on very much and often viewed as "a dime a dozen. " So to have success in this arena one needs to be well groomed, well dressed, exceedingly polite, have some game and above all be RESPECTFUL! Even if you get into a club, as a SM it is VERY, VERY hard game to play. So if one is put off by the extra cost to get in a club, then they are going to have a chip on their shoulder that eventually comes through to potential playmates. In many ways one has to eat a sH*t sandwich and love.
The reason is that ALOT of SMs behave badly. As one can hear from escorts there are a lot of jerks out there. I guess if one is getting paid a few hundred dollars they will put up with some degradation, disrespect and abuse. While the girls and wives in the lifestyle might be "slutty" by normal standards, because they like multiple partners, none of them want to be treated badly, disrespected. Being a SM who calls a wife a wh*re, sl\ / t, c\ / nt while F-ing her and one is gunna find the ire of a hubby.
Also, guys think that just because they are in a Club where many come to find playmates, they are entitled to play with whomever they want. Not the care, this is adult dating and a SM first has to impress or get through the Hubby gatekeeper all while impressing or turning on the wife. It's a delicate dance as the Hubby has seen many jerks before and tends to treat you as a jerk regardless of your approach. Deal with that and impress the wife?
The other side of the coin is the Single Females, while one might think they are easy pickings, they are the unicorns of the lifestyle: EVERYONE wants them: couples, SMs & other SFs. What guys often forget is that SFs are much more social and connected. As such if you blow off or disrespect a SF, then word gets around to other SFs and they will likely shun you. Knew a dude who was extremely popular with the SFs as he never turned down a girl and treated all with respect. Some of the cows he f-ed were pretty gross. But he knew if he pleased them the word got around to the other SFs and his chances with them improved greatly. I once asked him how he did it, f-ed one of the cows, and he said sometimes he just had to go somewhere else in his head while shutting off his eyes.
So attitude, approach and a bunch of other unwritten rules apply to the swing lifestyle. The biggest rule to never forget is "No means no!" That means you have to quit at the first "NO!" not keep pressuring like you might do with a girl at a bar until you break her down, Violate that rule and you could get bounced from a club.
So yeah, interesting potential at a swing club, but also some learning curve.
One exception - There use to be a swing club on South Street in Philly. (how it got shutdown is another story) Was in there once with a CL date and saw some 60s Italian dude come into the club with his 20-something GF(?). Apparently she wanted a GB (or had been there before) as the minute she walked in and went to a booth, SMs came swarming out of the woodwork like a pack of wolves on downed prey. I went off and f-ed some deadfish Indian wife while my date ended up naked on the bar with dudes doing shots out of her belly button. But that was the only exception to the "be polite" rule I ever observed in a club
Actually, from my experience as both a single male (SM) and a couple, in the swinging lifestyle, single guys are looked down on very much and often viewed as "a dime a dozen. " So to have success in this arena one needs to be well groomed, well dressed, exceedingly polite, have some game and above all be RESPECTFUL!Can concur. Explored the lifestyle for about ten years as a single male. Went to clubs and private house parties. I even used to organize some private parties in my own home.
Everything you related is spot-on with my experience.
Swinging is not "free sex". Swinging is about taking platonic relationships you make (even if they're new ones you just made that night) to the next level. It's the ultimate "friends with benefits".
Approach it as friends first, sex (maybe!) second and you'll be fine.
Actually, from my experience as both a single male (SM) and a couple, in the swinging lifestyle, single guys are looked down on very much and often viewed as "a dime a dozen. " So to have success in this arena one needs to be well groomed, well dressed, exceedingly polite, have some game and above all be RESPECTFUL! Even if you get into a club, as a SM it is VERY, VERY hard game to play. So if one is put off by the extra cost to get in a club, then they are going to have a chip on their shoulder that eventually comes through to potential playmates. In many ways one has to eat a sH*t sandwich and love.
The reason is that ALOT of SMs behave badly. As one can hear from escorts there are a lot of jerks out there. I guess if one is getting paid a few hundred dollars they will put up with some degradation, disrespect and abuse. While the girls and wives in the lifestyle might be "slutty" by normal standards, because they like multiple partners, none of them want to be treated badly, disrespected. Being a SM who calls a wife a wh*re, sl\ / t, c\ / nt while F-ing her and one is gunna find the ire of a hubby.
Also, guys think that just because they are in a Club where many come to find playmates, they are entitled to play with whomever they want. Not the care, this is adult dating and a SM first has to impress or get through the Hubby gatekeeper all while impressing or turning on the wife. It's a delicate dance as the Hubby has seen many jerks before and tends to treat you as a jerk regardless of your approach. Deal with that and impress the wife?.Very helpful. I don't see myself doing well as a single male especially if the couple is looking someone well hung (not me).
I'm better off getting a sugar baby to join me.
Mythbuster
06-29-23, 21:45
Actually, from my experience as both a single male (SM) and a couple, in the swinging lifestyle, single guys are looked down on very much and often viewed as "a dime a dozen. " So to have success in this arena one needs to be well groomed, well dressed, exceedingly polite, have some game and above all be RESPECTFUL! Even if you get into a club, as a SM it is VERY, VERY hard game to play. So if one is put off by the extra cost to get in a club, then they are going to have a chip on their shoulder that eventually comes through to potential playmates. In many ways one has to eat a sH*t sandwich and love.
The reason is that ALOT of SMs behave badly. As one can hear from escorts there are a lot of jerks out there. I guess if one is getting paid a few hundred dollars they will put up with some degradation, disrespect and abuse. While the girls and wives in the lifestyle might be "slutty" by normal standards, because they like multiple partners, none of them want to be treated badly, disrespected. Being a SM who calls a wife a wh*re, sl\ / t, c\ / nt while F-ing her and one is gunna find the ire of a hubby.
Also, guys think that just because they are in a Club where many come to find playmates, they are entitled to play with whomever they want. Not the care, this is adult dating and a SM first has to impress or get through the Hubby gatekeeper all while impressing or turning on the wife.Thank you! That was a great layout of the scene that I've thought about off and on. I actually knew a couple that organized swinging parties and thought they liked me but never acted on anything. They ended up breaking up and as I look back, it seems like it was a better deal for him than her!
On another note, does anyone know if those foot fetish lap dance parties are still happening? In fairness to the organizer, discreet answers or PMs please.
Thank you! That was a great layout of the scene that I've thought about off and on. I actually knew a couple that organized swinging parties and thought they liked me but never acted on anything. They ended up breaking up and as I look back, it seems like it was a better deal for him than her!
On another note, does anyone know if those foot fetish lap dance parties are still happening? In fairness to the organizer, discreet answers or PMs please.
Very helpful. I don't see myself doing well as a single male especially if the couple is looking someone well hung (not me).
I'm better off getting a sugar baby to join me.Ok first comment is that some wives are size queens and are looking for porn cocks to fuck. But most women just want good sex. If you don't skimp on foreplay, really know how to eat pussy and give Orgasms, teat a wife with respect prioritizing her desires and do more while fucking than jackrabbit hammering, you can have success in the lifestyle even with average or below average equipment. A woman would rather have a good fuck, than some arrogant dude with w 12-in cock.
In fact, several women in the lifestyle told me anything over 8-inches was too big, became painful pretty quickly and they would rather avoid. Plus they said a lot of guys with porn dicks thought that all they needed was their size and had no idea how to give a good fuck.
As far as the couple that hosted swing parties. Too bad you didn't explore when you had the chance. Often times just one encounter like that, if respectful can lead to other offers.
But if that couple broke up over swinging then that was a problem. Jealousy has no place in swinging and leads to drama. The hard part of this "couples dating" is finding 4 people that like each other. When you meet face-to-face potential playmates there is an interview process. A Couple want to find out about you to gauge how steady your relationship as to avoid eventual Drama. That's one reason why it's generally a bad idea to take a hooker to a swing club.
On occasion, one half will be very interested in the other couple and the other half just luke warm. Sure a hubby or a wife might "TOFFT" so their spouse can have a good time, but if it goes that way all the time or frequently it creates a relationship problem: Drama.
Many dudes talk their wife into swinging thinking about how much pussy they'll get. But once he gets in a room and sees his wife fucking another dude and she's reacting or making noises he near has seen, jealousy pops up & here comes Drama. Or the wife ends up being more popular and gets more offers to play than he does, her come Drama. Many dudes over estimate their appeal.
A GF and I, in the lifestyle, use to joke about some couples / As we came to call them: trophy wives and troll husbands. I remember meeting a couple and she was a complete knockout, gorgeous, fun, sexy I'd have f-ed her any day of the week. But her husband had the personality of a wet paper bag. My GF could in no way get excited about playing with him. So I had to pass on a romp with this beauty queen.
So swinging can be fun, but it's a whole different game, with its own set of rules.
MooseGreely973
06-30-23, 23:15
Have any mongers gone to a Friday night swingers club where single guys get in?
Please share any experience.
Considering checking it out one of these weekends.
Saints and sinners.
Pleasure garden.You talking about 6333 Woodland ave.
MooseGreely973
06-30-23, 23:31
Anyone seen these hoes before https://callescort.org/484-409-1314 and https://callescort.org/267-551-8364?
I talk to the brown skin one a lot via instagram but I haven't met her in person yet. The mixed Asian chick is expensive. I was wondering if her services are worth it.
Buying still illegal, as is pimping. Interesting.
https://apnews.com/article/maine-legislature-partially-decriminalize-prostitution-04161133ca6fd340ce4443f322ec0c96
Buying still illegal, as is pimping. Interesting.
https://apnews.com/article/maine-legislature-partially-decriminalize-prostitution-04161133ca6fd340ce4443f322ec0c96Makes some sense, as many women are groomed / forced / exploited into the industry. Charging and prosecuting them is a waste of resources and doesn't really serve any purpose.
Makes some sense, as many women are groomed / forced / exploited into the industry. Charging and prosecuting them is a waste of resources and doesn't really serve any purpose.In the UK it's legal, but pimping is not, nor is "curb crawling" (streetwalkers). But you can get them delivered right to you. Same in Montreal. Both through very well run agencies with like filtered searches for your preferred type.
In Switzerland they had amazing brothels, like high end, and even a designated area for "drive thru". I didn't go to the latter (no car), but you drive up and there's like a loop with little huts. You pull off, do the business and drive off. 100% legal. The huts have panic buttons for the women if shit goes sideways.
A Guatemalan strip club had a printed menu with prices and a “couch dance” room that was like a studio apartment.
It's kind of crazy how good it can be. Hopefully this is a first step for the US to get to a more sane policy.
UninhibitedFla
07-01-23, 15:27
In the UK it's legal, but pimping is not, nor is "curb crawling" (streetwalkers). But you can get them delivered right to you. Same in Montreal. Both through very well run agencies with like filtered searches for your preferred type.
In Switzerland they had amazing brothels, like high end, and even a designated area for "drive thru". I didn't go to the latter (no car), but you drive up and there's like a loop with little huts. You pull off, do the business and drive off. 100% legal. The huts have panic buttons for the women if shit goes sideways.
A Guatemalan strip club had a printed menu with prices and a couch dance room that was like a studio apartment.
It's kind of crazy how good it can be. Hopefully this is a first step for the US to get to a more sane policy.For how much the USA promotes selling sex via advertising, television, music and online we are way behind the times when it comes to the real thing being done. All the politicians are blowing loads inside women not their wives for a price. Then they legislate against the common folk doing the same. Douchery!
For how much the USA promotes selling sex via advertising, television, music and online we are way behind the times when it comes to the real thing being done. All the politicians are blowing loads inside women not their wives for a price. Then they legislate against the common folk doing the same. Douchery!Don't forget LEO doing exactly what you are talking about. They have been doing that for as long as I can remember. Many of the streetwalkers I have spoken with tell me that LEOs are some of the worst clients they see. They say they only see them to avoid trouble in the streets. They are obnoxious and sometimes violent, and many use the badge so they don't have to pay. The girls also give up monger information to LEO. That is a preferred method of business for many. Guys that think they know girls and can trust them are a fool's fool. A good rule of thumb when dealing with these girls is whatever she's telling us about other mongers and LEO, she's telling others about us. So, don't get too comfortable with them. Never let your guard down. They aren't in the game to keep us safe and happy. For them, it's all about drugs, survival, and money. Let either of those two equations run out and they will be nothing but a fleeting memory. I get a kick out of certain mongers saying how they trust this girl and that girl cause they have known them a long time. I just shake my head because I may know the girl they are talking about. For many a "long time" is any time after the third BJ. The first and most important rule of personal safety is never to fool yourself into thinking a girl cares about you. Never forget how we meet these girls. She's meeting other guys exactly the same way.
A perfect test is the following. Let a girl see you or call her to your car. Chat a little. Chances are she will bring up having a date. Then tell her you are broke today but wanted to say hi and see how she's doing. I'll bet dollars to doughnuts she makes a quick excuse to get going. If you think it's you, she wants, then let this little experiment enlighten you. Me. I'm just an 'OL Gator.
Forth Ryte
07-07-23, 17:33
Last few times I visited the K stroll I've begun to notice a black golf cart that hangs out in the few blocks just south of Venango. Today I saw the cart pull up just next to a redhead SW as she walked on K and approached Venango. The guy got out of the cart, he was wearing all black, had a radio and his jacket read SECURITY in bold white letters. He did not talk to the SW but she walked away. Anybody know what gives?
FORTH RYTE.
BeefNoodleSoup
07-07-23, 20:50
Last few times I visited the K stroll I've begun to notice a black golf cart that hangs out in the few blocks just south of Venango. Today I saw the cart pull up just next to a redhead SW as she walked on K and approached Venango. The guy got out of the cart, he was wearing all black, had a radio and his jacket read SECURITY in bold white letters. He did not talk to the SW but she walked away. Anybody know what gives?
FORTH RYTE.Those guys have been there for a while. There used to be a hooker hangout near venango or pacific. Those security guys kick them out. I'm guessing the local businesses hired security to keep the area hooker-free.
There are security everywhere. Some parking lots are tightly secured. A few lots have security that chase you out as soon as you drive in.
UninhibitedFla
07-20-23, 17:55
I'm getting timeouts when trying to upload images with my reports. Error for the upload window says website cannot be reached. Anyone else?
TheAuditor
08-23-23, 01:47
Don't forget LEO doing exactly what you are talking about. They have been doing that for as long as I can remember. Many of the streetwalkers I have spoken with tell me that LEOs are some of the worst clients they see. They say they only see them to avoid trouble in the streets. They are obnoxious and sometimes violent, and many use the badge so they don't have to pay. The girls also give up monger information to LEO. That is a preferred method of business for many. Guys that think they know girls and can trust them are a fool's fool. A good rule of thumb when dealing with these girls is whatever she's telling us about other mongers and LEO, she's telling others about us. So, don't get too comfortable with them. Never let your guard down. They aren't in the game to keep us safe and happy. For them, it's all about drugs, survival, and money. Let either of those two equations run out and they will be nothing but a fleeting memory. I get a kick out of certain mongers saying how they trust this girl and that girl cause they have known them a long time. I just shake my head because I may know the girl they are talking about. For many a "long time" is any time after the third BJ. The first and most important rule of personal safety is never to fool yourself into thinking a girl cares about you. Never forget how we meet these girls. She's meeting other guys exactly the same way.
A perfect test is the following. Let a girl see you or call her to your car. Chat a little. Chances are she will bring up having a date. Then tell her you are broke today but wanted to say hi and see how she's doing. I'll bet dollars to doughnuts she makes a quick excuse to get going. If you think it's you, she wants, then let this little experiment enlighten you. Me. I'm just an 'OL Gator.Man, every time I see a girl especially on LC I'm the most reserved I wipe everything from my phone I leave my info in my car. Can't trust these women at all you are 100% correct.
Tonsil Hockey
11-08-23, 01:03
From all I've read, there'll never be anything thinner, and after a friend who owns a Berk's County Butcher Shop very recently told me that a woman purchased "15-inch length natural sausage casing", one dozen each month, double-tied at one end, then felt like an idiot when his wife informed him, "she told me that her husband liked them better than Trojans", well, Just "Well?
I didn't ask Bill, didn't have the cajones / quillions. Damn near bit my lower lip off, too!
Absurd, totally absurd.
Knot trying skills were never so important.
But the technology, and buckets of Bill Gates' moolah went into their design, implementation, and testing. Women state that "they seldom get irritation after using One FLEX'S". Most of the research and development was done in Russia. They're also the ONLY FDA APPROVED 'condom for anal intercourse'. Men are said to be "more willing to cooperate in wrapping 'it' up", but this info is indirectly from the manufacturer's largest wholesaler, and may be "wishful".
Siliconized, water-based gel lubricants are said to work well, with some women reporting "they like them better when they go in DRY".
The tech reports make sense, as did the process patent info:
https://patents.google.com/patent/CN104887382A/en
https://patents.google.com/patent/WO2015068174A2/en
https://eureka.patsnap.com/patent-CN110711070A
Chinese patents are more aggressively defended from infringement, I've been informed.
I'll be an "EOO", Equal Opportunity Offender: https://conyeagerspice.com/casings/ (anyone ordering the "Mahogany size", is foll o' crap!
From all I've read, there'll never be anything thinner, and after a friend who owns a Berk's County Butcher Shop very recently told me that a woman purchased "15-inch length natural sausage casing", one dozen each month, double-tied at one end, then felt like an idiot when his wife informed him, "she told me that her husband liked them better than Trojans", well, Just "Well?
I didn't ask Bill, didn't have the cajones / quillions. Damn near bit my lower lip off, too!
Absurd, totally absurd.
Knot trying skills were never so important.
But the technology, and buckets of Bill Gates' moolah went into their design, implementation, and testing. Women state that "they seldom get irritation after using One FLEX'S". Most of the research and development was done in Russia. They're also the ONLY FDA APPROVED 'condom for anal intercourse'. Men are said to be "more willing to cooperate in wrapping 'it' up", but this info is indirectly from the manufacturer's largest wholesaler, and may be "wishful".
Siliconized, water-based gel lubricants are said to work well, with some women reporting "they like them better when they go in DRY".
The tech reports make sense, as did the process patent info:
https://patents.google.com/patent/CN104887382A/en
https://patents.google.com/patent/WO2015068174A2/en
https://eureka.patsnap.com/patent-CN110711070A
Chinese patents are more aggressively defended from infringement, I've been informed.
I'll be an "EOO", Equal Opportunity Offender: https://conyeagerspice.com/casings/ (anyone ordering the "Mahogany size", is foll o' crap!So how thin (or thick) are these? Better than, my preferred, Japanese Sagami Originals 001 or the Air Thin Zero Ones, which are both reportedly 0.01-mm thick, or 10-microns. But also are made of polyurethane, rather than latex. The polyurethane was reportedly an improvement in heat transfer over latex. That is compared to traditional Trojan Bareskin Raw condom which is 46 microns thick or realistically 3-times thicker! I graduated to the 001's from the Kimonos and the Crowns (50 microns) a few years ago. Traditional Trojan ENZ are 70 microns as are Durex Basics. But everyone is different in what they feel and how a condom effects them.
Got a kick out of the marketing stuff: Tested 3-times! Some dude banged 3 girls with one and it didn't break?
Tonsil Hockey
11-08-23, 18:48
So how thin (or thick) are these? Better than, my preferred, Japanese Sagami Originals 001 or the Air Thin Zero Ones, which are both reportedly 0.01-mm thick, or 10-microns. But also are made of polyurethane, rather than latex. The polyurethane was reportedly an improvement in heat transfer over latex. That is compared to traditional Trojan Bareskin Raw condom which is 46 microns thick or realistically 3-times thicker! I graduated to the 001's from the Kimonos and the Crowns (50 microns) a few years ago. Traditional Trojan ENZ are 70 microns as are Durex Basics. But everyone is different in what they feel and how a condom effects them.
Got a kick out of the marketing stuff: Tested 3-times! Some dude banged 3 girls with one and it didn't break?Average appears to be between 0. 07µ/0. 08µ; 85% efficient heat transfer (more heat conductive than copper).
Thedarkstar
11-09-23, 07:00
From all I've read, there'll never be anything thinner, and after a friend who owns a Berk's County Butcher Shop very recently told me that a woman purchased "15-inch length natural sausage casing", one dozen each month, double-tied at one end, then felt like an idiot when his wife informed him, "she told me that her husband liked them better than Trojans", well, Just "Well?
I didn't ask Bill, didn't have the cajones / quillions. Damn near bit my lower lip off, too!
Absurd, totally absurd.
Knot trying skills were never so important.
But the technology, and buckets of Bill Gates' moolah went into their design, implementation, and testing. Women state that "they seldom get irritation after using One FLEX'S". Most of the research and development was done in Russia. They're also the ONLY FDA APPROVED 'condom for anal intercourse'. Men are said to be "more willing to cooperate in wrapping 'it' up", but this info is indirectly from the manufacturer's largest wholesaler, and may be "wishful".
Siliconized, water-based gel lubricants are said to work well, with some women reporting "they like them better when they go in DRY".
The tech reports make sense, as did the process patent info:
https://patents.google.com/patent/CN104887382A/en
https://patents.google.com/patent/WO2015068174A2/en
https://eureka.patsnap.com/patent-CN110711070A
Chinese patents are more aggressively defended from infringement, I've been informed.
I'll be an "EOO", Equal Opportunity Offender: https://conyeagerspice.com/casings/ (anyone ordering the "Mahogany size", is foll o' crap!Good information. I'm not sure how everyone feels or what they know about graphene oxide, but that nano participate is not something you want to play around with. The fact that the FDA approved it only means you want to keep it away from your dick. But then again the last 3 years surprised me with the amount of people willing to take an experimental mrna drug.
Average appears to be between 0. 07/0. 08; 85% efficient heat transfer (more heat conductive than copper).Wow that would be like next to nothing thin! And a great find, thanks.
Are you saying they are 0. 07-microns thick? Compared to the 001 condoms at 10-microns? As the 0. 07 mm would be 70-microns, same as the regular Trojans.
Can you share the link where that thickness is defined? I couldn't find the tech info on that one site.
Tonsil Hockey
11-12-23, 18:25
Wow that would be like next to nothing thin! And a great find, thanks.
Are you saying they are 0. 07-microns thick? Compared to the 001 condoms at 10-microns? As the 0. 07 mm would be 70-microns, same as the regular Trojans.
Can you share the link where that thickness is defined? I couldn't find the tech info on that one site.I inadvertently left of two zero decimal placements, 7 to 8 millionths of the thickness of a human hair. I've been a pilot for years, we almost always drop one or two decimal places in comms.
SukijoSeiwaka
11-19-23, 12:42
Why does it seem sex workers are being tolerated more today than just being shamed and marginalized?
BeefNoodleSoup
11-20-23, 22:43
Why does it seem sex workers are being tolerated more today than just being shamed and marginalized?Are you on the spectrum bro?
HankScorpio
12-04-23, 01:14
I've been getting an increasing number of chicks in desperate need / desire of therapy. I'll just be making some small talk before / after banging her and then all of a sudden she's spilling all the beans and crying about how horrible her life is and how everything is spiraling downhill and all I wanted was to bang her and move on.
Usually I buy her food or give her a little extra to make her feel better and she usually is put in a better mood after a good bang session. But it seems like a lot of people these days are going through some hard times.
Rubber Ducky Boston
05-11-24, 15:20
Started hooking up with a civvie recently. She's very much into public stuff. Anyone got some ideas for where to take her without major risk of getting caught with an indecency charge?
She's thinking bar / restaurant bathrooms. I'm thinking more fitting rooms. Anyone got good options for these? Low risk of getting caught, not super dirty. Or just any tips in general would be appreciated for how to go about logistics for this.
Also what goes down at these adult stores? Any fun times to be had there for an exhibitionist?
Also I know there's some sorta sex club near purple orchid I think for swingers. Anyone been there and know what that's like?
She also wants to try a MFF threesome, but she doesn't know I'm in the hobby, so even though the easiest way would be to just hire someone, that might alarm her I think, so I'm thinking maybe visit a strip club with her? I feel like that might be easier for a civvie to feel comfortable. Or maybe I could just ask and see if she has any female friends she's been crushing on.
Started hooking up with a civvie recently. She's very much into public stuff. Anyone got some ideas for where to take her without major risk of getting caught with an indecency charge?
She's thinking bar / restaurant bathrooms. I'm thinking more fitting rooms. Anyone got good options for these? Low risk of getting caught, not super dirty. Or just any tips in general would be appreciated for how to go about logistics for this.
Also what goes down at these adult stores? Any fun times to be had there for an exhibitionist?
Also I know there's some sorta sex club near purple orchid I think for swingers. Anyone been there and know what that's like?
She also wants to try a MFF threesome, but she doesn't know I'm in the hobby, so even though the easiest way would be to just hire someone, that might alarm her I think, so I'm thinking maybe visit a strip club with her? I feel like that might be easier for a civvie to feel comfortable. Or maybe I could just ask and see if she has any female friends she's been crushing on.I've not been to the club near Purple Orchid, but I think you're on the right track with an adult bookstore with a theatre. Berlin News has a theatre and you'd probably be right at home with her there. You are much more likely to meet single men there (and you'd have to be clear with them that they can only watch and not play), but you may run into couples on a Saturday night. Ask the guy behind the counter when he notices couples attend and come back then.
You might also be able to fool around with each other in the booths with a woman behind the glass, and if you play your cards right you might be able to entice her into a threesome when she's off the clock.
There are also options for doing things in the car. Road head is fairly low-risk and a pretty good option at night. Careful where you park, though, if you want to get busier. If you get busted for parking and going at it like a couple of teenagers cops will usually just laugh it off and take your I'd in case you ended up being someone they were looking for (e. G. If you have outstanding warrants this is a bad idea), but if your record is clean I doubt highly you'd get cited, even if you're in a park at night which closes at dusk. I've been busted like that a few times and never been cited.
Then there are the local (or not so local) swing clubs. Not sure if the one in Philly is still open, but if you search the web you can find a few. Some of them are a bit of a drive, but nothing you can't do in an evening, coming home by 2 AM or so.
Finally, there are swingers websites. I think Swing Lifestyle (sls.com) is still an established place for people to meet. Take some photos (from the neck down if faces make you uncomfortable), make a profile, reach out to some couples and see if you can wrangle an invite to a private house party. You can meet great, like-minded people that way, but most parties are full-swap and while no still means no in the swinging lifestyle, you're a lot more likely to get action if you're open to a full swap. Then when you make friends you can ask to set up a private encounter where each guy would get to take turns with both women and you'd get your threesome.
If you run out of options for a threesome you could ask her if she'd be interested in a pro. You can find high end escort agency, there are ads out on the web for those. But be prepared to pay, high three figures and maybe even low four, depending on how long you want to play and how high end you need to go to make your friend comfortable.
Good luck!
Rubber Ducky Boston
05-11-24, 16:49
I've not been to the club near Purple Orchid, but I think you're on the right track with an adult bookstore with a theatre. Berlin News has a theatre and you'd probably be right at home with her there. You are much more likely to meet single men there (and you'd have to be clear with them that they can only watch and not play), but you may run into couples on a Saturday night. Ask the guy behind the counter when he notices couples attend and come back then.
You might also be able to fool around with each other in the booths with a woman behind the glass, and if you play your cards right you might be able to entice her into a threesome when she's off the clock.
There are also options for doing things in the car. Road head is fairly low-risk and a pretty good option at night. Careful where you park, though, if you want to get busier. If you get busted for parking and going at it like a couple of teenagers cops will usually just laugh it off and take your I'd in case you ended up being someone they were looking for (e. G. If you have outstanding warrants this is a bad idea), but if your record is clean I doubt highly you'd get cited, even if you're in a park at night which closes at dusk. I've been busted like that a few times and never been cited.
Then there are the local (or not so local) swing clubs. Not sure if the one in Philly is still open, but if you search the web you can find a few. Some of them are a bit of a drive, but nothing you can't do in an evening, coming home by 2 AM or so.
Finally, there are swingers websites. I think Swing Lifestyle (sls.com) is still an established place for people to meet. Take some photos (from the neck down if faces make you uncomfortable), make a profile, reach out to some couples and see if you can wrangle an invite to a private house party. You can meet great, like-minded people that way, but most parties are full-swap and while no still means no in the swinging lifestyle, you're a lot more likely to get action if you're open to a full swap. Then when you make friends you can ask to set up a private encounter where each guy would get to take turns with both women and you'd get your threesome.
If you run out of options for a threesome you could ask her if she'd be interested in a pro. You can find high end escort agency, there are ads out on the web for those. But be prepared to pay, high three figures and maybe even low four, depending on how long you want to play and how high end you need to go to make your friend comfortable.
Good luck!Thanks for the wealth of info!
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