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Member #4523
09-05-10, 18:32
Pay 4 Play is what it is. Don't make any more out of it than what it is.Just trying to stimulate some activity on the forum, Golfcart.
For the philosophers out there, in the escort context at least, I saw a post by Candlelight Kim of Connecticut once that seemed to capture things very well:
“Because we see each other on a limited basis, under as perfect conditions as we can both plan for, it creates an illusion, a fantasy world... something that is unlikely to remain that way, should we cross the line into real world dating.” “This is part of the beauty of it."
Nice quote! To me, the quote applies more to escorts than SWs because with most SWs, they fall pretty far short of creating "as perfect conditions" as can be planned for and usually do not help you "create an illusion, a fantasy world." The illusion/fantasy is the GFE or PSE that most escorts are at least pretty good at helping you create whereas most of the SWs I have experienced are woefully inept at doing so.
But the SW deal seems to be as much about the thrill of the hunt as anything else, so I don't know.I agree completely with you on this. No matter how many unsuccessful forays you make, you always think that this time you might stumble upon that "diamond in the rough," that SW who has escort skills, looks, and attitude at a street price. I recall picking up a SW last year who told convincing stories about her years as an escort and the travels she had experienced in this role. But as she aged (she was maybe late 30s) she could no longer work as an escort and had resorted to hooking on the streets to support her drug habit. The thing that made her story believable was that she really did perform at escort level with me that day, really focusing in on my feelings and pleasure and doing so in a non-rushed manner.
BF: Now you become a philosopher! Bravo. Some may find faults with your thoughtful post, but I applaud your candor about the 'hobby' and for your concern for the SW. You stimulate me to give MY five traits of the ideal SW, in order as they occur in the the encounter (they are very similar to yours):
1) ON THE STREET, ATTRACTIVE: Yes--some level of attractiveness--subtle in her street "look", no waiving arms, no haggard "ridden hard and put away wet" look. Make me WANT to make the stop.
2) IN THE CAR, CLEAN AND WELL GROOMED: No obvious sores or dirt, no off odor, clothes decent. We want some hint that they care about their health and cleanliness. And no serious geeking.
3) INTERPERSONAL SKILLS, CONGENIAL: Give me an open smile when you jump right into the car. Upbeat, "Hi--I'm Tricksie. What's your name?" Direct, friendly conversation in the car, soft sell on "quid-pro-quo." Does she know not to jump straight to "What will you pay for which?" But with no coyness about fees, "up-grading" of fees, or hidden requirements. Most mongers will appreciate this prelude to a GFE. A little conversation, but not too much talk, or twirling of radio dials, lighting up smokes, etc. Not a scheming, conniving thief.
4) EXXXCELLENT SKILLS: She is eager to know what you like, and provide it. Not too rough, or too rushed. Finger in the taint without asking. CIM. (After all, the skills are the central issue for most mongers...)
5) A GOOD ACTRESS: I like at least *some* hint of a GFE. She should at least pretend to enjoy your company, to engage you on some personal level. In a memorable trick, the slim, tall young SW, with a bounce in her step and a smile on her face, she took my hand and led me into the woods.
Thanks Bill for raising the question.
...What makes a SW “an ideal SW?” Skills? Looks? Low price? Attitude? Availability?
...She seemed genuinely grateful for my help in this matter and seemed to enjoy our time together. At one point she gave me a big hug, looked me in the eye, and said, “I love you SO much!” Of course it is absurd to think or imagine that she felt any sort of real, mature love for me, but consider how it may make you feel when an attractive young woman, to whom you are sexually attracted, holds you closely and tells you that you’re wonderful and that she loves you SO much.
...I’ll bet you want your ideal SW to act like she likes you and enjoys your company. You know that it is really all about the money you provide, but just like the “willing suspension of disbelief” that allows a theater audience to become caught up in a play...
My ideal provider would 1) have good to great skills, 2) be available just about any time, 3) look appealing, 4) act like she finds my company pleasant and fun (in other words, at least a semi-GFE), and 5) price her services reasonably.
...With more experience I may find one or more SWs who rate highly on all five factors, but I am not optimistic about this.
...And if YOU have found that ideal SW, please send along her digits via PM, OK?
Made the Clifton, OTR, LPH tour today. The usual suspects on lower McMick around Elm and Race and on upper McMick near the Interstate; a couple on State. All are rough, older WSW. Lots of Leo. The only BSW I've seen recently turn out to be dudes when you get up close!
I see tons of HOT black women in OTR and PH, but few BSW compared to the demographics of those neighborhoods. What gives?
What am I looking for? In order I'd say...Looks, cleanliness, novelty (new is better than "done that"), and attitude.
Handiman66
09-06-10, 18:56
To BFAWBC..........
Love it !
HM
Member #4523
09-06-10, 20:45
BF: Now you become a philosopher! Bravo. You nailed me! I was a philosophy major in college almost 50 years ago!
Thanks for providing your take on "the ideal SW." Mr. Boombastic provided a long and thoughtful discussion on this topic in the General Reports forum and I thank him here for his informative post.
As you say, the SW has to be somewhat attractive, and here in Cincy we rarely see real physical attractiveness in our SWs. Your comment about "interpersonal skills" is spot on. A smile and a little cheerfulness goes a long way with me and probably with most other mongers as well. And all of us are surely looking for good skills. It seems strange to me that really good skills are so hard to find, but that's been my experience over the past year.
And finally, yes, "at least some hint of a GFE." It doesn't take much acting skill to do this, but it's lacking in the majority of SWs I have sampled. I guess that was mostly why I was so taken with Keisha, the young BSW I mentioned about 10 days back.
By the way, I saw that deaf girl (described in an earlier post) on Colerain (near Hopple) today. She gave me a big smile and wave. I waved back, but didn't stop. Another tidbit: I spent some time with a part-timer last Saturday. I had asked her if she wanted me to bring an alcoholic beverage and she requested a bottle of Hennessey. The cheapest bottle of Hennessey I could find was about $31! But guess what she wanted to mix it with? Cranberry juice!!! I'm thinking that just about rules her out as an ideal SW! :>)
Met up with Stephanie tonight that I had not seen in a couple of months. She is a brunette WSW and scooped her in the vacinity of McMic & Elm where I have found her before. As soon as she was in and we were on the roll she says "I saw my pictures on the Internet." I am now thinking "Oh crap" and looking for a place to pull over in case I take a blow to the head. She then follows it up with "and I loved them!" and I breathed a sigh of relief.
My last encounter with her we went to a no-tel and I shot a few pics that I included with the report. I did not mention to her my intent to publish and what I posted with my report I had cropped out the majority of her face so I really thought nothing of posting them. I am just throwing this out here because while she "loved it" if that had not been the case - then tonight's pick up might not have gone well.
Has anyone ever had a situation of a SW getting bent out of shape over posting her pics?
We roamed pretty far out of the zone while discussing the pics and the use of this forum. Eventually found a quite spot and she insisted on her .20 up front. She delivered a BBBJ that included DT and some incredible tongue action that brought about a very explosive ending of which she swallowed every drop. Of course YMMV, but the 3 or 4 experiences that I've had with her have been good and tonight was no exception so she also picked up a .05 tip. She still has no digits.
The pix are good to hot (especially since few Cincinnati posters post pix these days). Both posts contain high quality info. Too bad, as usual, no digits... She looks worth meeting, even deflated!
Previous post:
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=1024989&postcount=1122
Keep up the good work. I am constantly amazed at full face pix on other boards. I have always blurred faces.
Once my pix revealed an SWs fancy nails, and another monger mentioned to her that he had seen her in my pix... NOT a good idea, my fellow mongers... She was not irate, but was less than pleased.
Met up with Stephanie tonight ... She is a brunette WSW and scooped her in the vacinity of McMic & Elm where I have found her before. As soon as she was in and we were on the roll she says "I saw my pictures on the Internet." I am now thinking "Oh crap" and looking for a place to pull over in case I take a blow to the head. She then follows it up with "and I loved them!" and I breathed a sigh of relief.
My last encounter ... I did not mention to her my intent to publish and what I posted with my report I had cropped out the majority of her face so I really thought nothing of posting them... if [she had not "loved" them] then tonight's pick up might not have gone well.
Has anyone ever had a situation of a SW getting bent out of shape over posting her pics?
...She delivered a BBBJ that included DT [YES!] She still has no digits.
Member #4523
09-07-10, 13:53
My car is in the shop and I'm stuck at home. Having too much time on my hands, I decided to create this curriculum for a street walker course. Combining the ideas contributed by Mr. Boombastic, Giani, and myself, I’d like to offer a proposed curriculum for a non-credit course in street walking. Feel free to suggest additional topics where ever you see question marks.
1) Hygiene
a. Body Odor, its causes and prevention
b. The importance of clean clothing
c. How to clean your fingernails (tools & techniques)
d. ????
2) On Street Behavior
a. How to give “the look” without excessive gestures, shouts, and movements
b. Maintaining distance from ones “handler”
c. ????
3) In Car Behavior
a. Non-touching of dashboard levers and buttons, especially radio controls
b. Requesting permission to smoke
c. Conversation 101 – how to make conversation without any mention of the problems you are currently facing
d. Conversation 201 – how to appear interested in him and his life when he is utterly boring
e. Resisting the temptation to steal stuff out of his car
f. ????
4) Oral Skills
a. No teeth marks, please!
b. Taking direction regarding firmness, speed, and other variables
c. Deep throating, tongue moves, and other advanced techniques
d. ????
5) Acting Skills
a. Appearing cheerful when depressed
b. How to make him think you find him attractive
c. How to make him think you enjoy his company
i. Compliments
ii. Giving him “inside information” about other SWs and LE
iii. Telling him you really hope to see him again SOON.
d. Using moans and other sounds to simulate arousal
e. Developing the ability to shed a tear or two to show emotional depth and intimacy
f. ????
I don't know exactly what it is, but when Bill posts things I have to read them. Usually I will laugh out loud at his antics. There is just something about the way he turns a phrase. Thanks for the entertainment and I hope you get your vehicle back soon.
My car is in the shop and I'm stuck at home. Having too much time on my hands, I decided to create this curriculum for a street walker course. Combining the ideas contributed by Mr. Boombastic, Giani, and myself, I’d like to offer a proposed curriculum for a non-credit course in street walking. Feel free to suggest additional topics where ever you see question marks.
1) Hygiene
a. Body Odor, its causes and prevention
b. The importance of clean clothing
c. How to clean your fingernails (tools & techniques)
d. ????
2) On Street Behavior
a. How to give “the look” without excessive gestures, shouts, and movements
b. Maintaining distance from ones “handler”
c. ????
3) In Car Behavior
a. Non-touching of dashboard levers and buttons, especially radio controls
b. Requesting permission to smoke
c. Conversation 101 – how to make conversation without any mention of the problems you are currently facing
d. Conversation 201 – how to appear interested in him and his life when he is utterly boring
e. Resisting the temptation to steal stuff out of his car
f. ????
4) Oral Skills
a. No teeth marks, please!
b. Taking direction regarding firmness, speed, and other variables
c. Deep throating, tongue moves, and other advanced techniques
d. ????
5) Acting Skills
a. Appearing cheerful when depressed
b. How to make him think you find him attractive
c. How to make him think you enjoy his company
i. Compliments
ii. Giving him “inside information” about other SWs and LE
iii. Telling him you really hope to see him again SOON.
d. Using moans and other sounds to simulate arousal
e. Developing the ability to shed a tear or two to show emotional depth and intimacy
f. ????
Here's a couple thoughts where Bill left off.
6) Economics
A) budget for and buy a good quality cell phone.
B) defend the phone from water sources (sinks, toilets, exploding douch bags, etc.) and thieves.
C) budget for and keep minutes on phone so we can contact you.
7) Contracts.
A. Offer.
B. Acceptance.
C. Consideration. Delivered after full performance of bargained-for services.
D. A deal is a deal. No proposed changes to the deal once agreed upon. It ok to negotiate, bit keep you word. I will tip when the service warrants it. But only then.
Liquid Ice
09-08-10, 09:08
This was rather amusing and gave me a good chuckle. But I'm afraid that completion of your curriculum would require a graduation ceremony and a promotion in title to "Escort".
My car is in the shop and I'm stuck at home. Having too much time on my hands, I decided to create this curriculum for a street walker course. Combining the ideas contributed by Mr. Boombastic, Giani, and myself, I’d like to offer a proposed curriculum for a non-credit course in street walking. Feel free to suggest additional topics where ever you see question marks.
1) Hygiene
a. Body Odor, its causes and prevention
b. The importance of clean clothing
c. How to clean your fingernails (tools & techniques)
d. ????
2) On Street Behavior
a. How to give “the look” without excessive gestures, shouts, and movements
b. Maintaining distance from ones “handler”
c. ????
3) In Car Behavior
a. Non-touching of dashboard levers and buttons, especially radio controls
b. Requesting permission to smoke
c. Conversation 101 – how to make conversation without any mention of the problems you are currently facing
d. Conversation 201 – how to appear interested in him and his life when he is utterly boring
e. Resisting the temptation to steal stuff out of his car
f. ????
4) Oral Skills
a. No teeth marks, please!
b. Taking direction regarding firmness, speed, and other variables
c. Deep throating, tongue moves, and other advanced techniques
d. ????
5) Acting Skills
a. Appearing cheerful when depressed
b. How to make him think you find him attractive
c. How to make him think you enjoy his company
i. Compliments
ii. Giving him “inside information” about other SWs and LE
iii. Telling him you really hope to see him again SOON.
d. Using moans and other sounds to simulate arousal
e. Developing the ability to shed a tear or two to show emotional depth and intimacy
f. ????
Mr Boombastic
09-09-10, 06:25
Bill when you get your class together on Street Action 101, I'm gonna take it, even the Grad course of it.
Bill you make me Laugh .... I have to admit you have a naive way of asking the questions that everyone else really wants to know too.
But it will take a long post to answer your questions!
Member #4523
09-09-10, 13:24
I’ll bet that just about every monger who cruises the streets in search of SWs has had the fantasy of finding a young, fresh newcomer to the profession. Who knows, maybe even a nubile lass who is venturing into street walking for the FIRST TIME! I guess it can happen because every SW out there was out there for the first time ONCE, right? Or, even if you don’t snag a first timer (admittedly a VERY rare event and one I have never experienced), you might run across what I think is the next best thing, namely a part-timer who is only out there on the streets occasionally. Part-timers, especially those who only hit the streets every few months or so, are generally just not as beaten down and beaten up as those girls who are out there grinding it out on a daily basis.
So how can you maximize your chances of scooping up a SW who is either relatively new to the job or a part-timer? I don’t pretend to have any great expertise here, but I do have a thought to share with you that might prove fruitful. Let’s say that you, like me, enjoy the company of young BSWs from time to time. So, how about picking an area that is fairly rich in young, black females and just doing a little cruising? I’m thinking that if I spy a 20s female walking along the street and if I catch her eye and ask if she needs a ride, even if she is a civilian she almost surely understands what you are looking for and if she has no interest, she’ll just look straight ahead and keep walking. No harm, no foul, right? But even a civilian who has never turned a trick might well have considered such an activity, especially if money has been tight.
More likely is the possibility that you run across a part-timer who might just be waiting for a bus or walking to a store but who will see your invitation for a ride as a quick and easy way to score $25 or $30. In any case, it will only cost you a bit of time and gas to cruise around an area for an hour and see what is to be seen. I’ve been thinking about an area suggested to me by a fellow monger on this forum: it lies north of William Howard Taft, south of MLK, east of Reading Rd. and west of Gilbert Ave. I am attaching a little map that shows this area. Let us know if you strike “pay dirt” in this area or in another area you might be exploring.
Member #4523
09-09-10, 21:37
I headed to the area depicted in the map I attached to my last post, driving north on Gilbert and then west on Lincoln. About where Lincoln goes over I71, I saw a black female walking east on Lincoln. She looked pretty nice in a black outfit, hair fixed up, some jewelry; just at a glance, I guess she was in her 20s. I turned around and headed back on Lincoln. I saw her start crossing the street to be on my side of the road. Guess she had seen me turn. I pull over and she gets right in. I ask if she wants a ride and she smiles and says, "sure." Seeing her close up, I revise my estimate of her age to the 30s. Also she looks a bit worn around the edges.
We exchange names, hers being DiDi (Dee Dee?) and mine being Bill.
She asks me, "What are you up for doing?" and I tell her that I am actually just "window shopping" in the area, just looking around. I tell her that I'll be glad to give her a ride to where ever, but that I'm not planning on doing any "business" right then. She seems cool with that and asks me to drop her at a store on Gilbert. Apparently taken with my manly appearance and charm, she says, "I'd sure like to suck your dick." I assured her that I found her attractive and would like to hook up with her another time.
I thought about explaining to her that I was not going to use her services because, 1) I was on a reconnaissance mission for the USASexGuideForum, self-assigned to scout the area for promising young SWs, and 2) I was still in the process of building up to my once a week explosion of pleasure and just wasn’t ready for her at that time, BUT I decided not to bore her with this explanation and just took her to the store.
Upon arrival at the destination she had requested, she turned to me and said, “Could I have $1.00 for a cigarette?” Now, I didn’t know they sold cigarettes individually, but having a loose dollar bill in my possession, I agreed to her request. Have any of you ever been asked for $1.00 for a cigarette? I found it strange, but then I guess I’m looking for a little strangeness.
I handed her the dollar bill, she thanked me, and then rattled off a phone number. I guess she harbored hopes of deepening our relationship at some time in the future. I wrote down the number and would be glad to share it with Seniors via PM. I’m pretty sure that she would like you and your appendages every bit as much as she liked me and mine.
So there’s one BSW at a total cost of $1.00, and the next one was free! Of course neither of them provided me with anything sexual, but that’s not always a bad thing.
I headed back to McM to see if a cute WSW I had seen earlier was still prowling the area behind the Interstate Motel. I don’t usually pick up WSWs, but this one looked pretty cute and seemed worth investigating. Of course she was no long to be seen.
I headed back toward town and spotted Mya at the bus stop near McMillan.
I reported on my first meeting with Mya back in post #652. At that time (last December), I thought she might not even be 18 years old, so I just gave her a ride and let her out. She was really cute and said, “Have a blessed day” as she got out of the car and I thought to myself that if I ever saw her again, I’d probably chance a scoop.
Well, I saw her last spring, picked her up, and headed for a motel. While I found her attractive and easy to talk to, I really didn’t have much fun with her at the motel and rated her skills as pretty low. I think Mya is the girl that Cyan001 posted about in post #1141. Cyan gave her age as 24 when she is actually 19 (will turn 20 on Oct. 18 if you would like to plan a birthday surprise for her). Cyan remarked that she wouldn’t remove her top, seemed unmotivated, and rushed the service – sounded like my experiences with her.
I also saw Mya a few days ago. She seemed pleased to see me and we had a nice chat on the way to my spot. Once parked, I offered $25 and she said she “needed” $30. I agreed and she started a BBBJ. I was rubbing around on her chest when she asked me to quit because it might wrinkle her clothing. Things went from bad to worse and I finally just gave up and took her back to McM. I decided that the next time I saw her, I’d chat with her a bit and explain that while I liked talking with her and appreciated her attractiveness, it just wasn’t going to work out for us to do any more business.
So today I spot Mya at the bus stop, pull over across the street, and she comes over and gets in. I gave her my little speech (Why oh why do I do stuff like this??? Don’t I realize that it will end badly???). As soon as I finish my explanation of why I won’t be picking her up any more, she looks up and says, “That’s my bus! Are you going to give me a ride to Clifton?” I say I will and we turn up Ravine.
She pops some ear buds into her ears and turns up her MP3 player so loud that I can hear the music myself. I make a comment or two and she stares straight ahead and says nothing. I say, “You’re not going to talk, huh?” and she stares straight ahead and says nothing. I say, “You’re pissed at me, right?” and she stares straight ahead and says nothing. Her only communication is to say she wants to be let out in the CVS parking lot.
I pull into the lot and she opens the door to get out. I say, “Hey…,” but she gets out and walks off without a word. I drive off feeling a little bummed out.
So that’s the end of me and Mya. During the two times we were together earlier this year, we had talked quite a bit and I thought we were friendly enough that she deserved an explanation of why I wouldn’t be picking her up. Should have known that it wouldn’t end on a cheerful note – no one likes rejection. But on the plus side, my time with Mya today didn’t cost me anything but some gas.
Two BSWs for $1.00! Top that my fellow mongers! :>)
For god's sake, I have to be the one to warn other beginner mongers....
DO NOT DO WHAT BILL FANTA DOES.
I'm a fan, don't get me wrong, but just take note that these kind of actions can get you hurt out on the streets. Not a good idea, but then again, Bill wouldn't be Bill if they WERE good ideas indeed! lol
Member #4523
09-10-10, 09:04
For god's sake, I have to be the one to warn other beginner mongers....
DO NOT DO WHAT BILL FANTA DOES.
I'm a fan, don't get me wrong, but just take note that these kind of actions can get you hurt out on the streets. Not a good idea, but then again, Bill wouldn't be Bill if they WERE good ideas indeed! lol
I have to agree with Getnati; it is generally a bad idea to risk getting a SW mad at you. In Mya's case, I was pretty sure I'd see her on the street in the future and wanted her to understand why I wouldn't be picking her up. We'd had a couple of nice talks in the past and I thought she deserved an explanation. I think her feelings were a bit hurt, but she really didn't seem that mad at me. If you know her, you'd know that she is really no threat to cause me any harm in the future. On the other hand, that guy who was killed by a young woman who was likely a SW probably thought she was no threat to him. (see Getnati's post #1434 in the General Reports forum)
And if you ever wonder why an old guy like me spends so much time detailing his exploits on the streets, it's kind of like the old joke about the elderly gentleman who was fishing at a lake and who heard a voice calling out to him. When he looked down, he saw a frog looking up at him. The frog said, "Pick me up!" So the old man picks up the frog and the frog says, "Now kiss me and I will turn into a beautiful young woman who will fulfill all your sexual fantasies." The old man puts the frog into his pocket and goes back to his fishing. Then he hears the frog's muffled voice coming from his pocket. The frog says, "Didn't you hear me? I said to kiss me and I'll turn into a beautiful, sexy woman!" The old man takes the frog out of his pocket and says, "Sorry, but at my age I find it more interesting to have a talking frog." It's kind of like that with me; at my age, writing about my experiences out on the streets is some times more fun than the experiences themselves.
But rest assured about one thing, I will never take risks on the street just so that I can spin a tale on this forum. If you find yourself in a situation that seems risky, it probably IS risky, and you need to ask yourself whether the possible rewards are worth the risk. I'm retired, so I am not risking losing a job or career, but for some of you, that's a real risk. So please take every reasonable precaution while pursuing the "hobby" and try to learn from the mistakes and misadventures that are reported on this forum.
Yes, Bill is a professional, do not try this at home. But always read his posts, they are both educational and entertaining.
For god's sake, I have to be the one to warn other beginner mongers.
DO NOT DO WHAT BILL FANTA DOES.
I'm a fan, don't get me wrong, but just take note that these kind of actions can get you hurt out on the streets. Not a good idea, but then again, Bill wouldn't be Bill if they WERE good ideas indeed! lol
Thanks Bill for your recent report.
Mya is a beautiful woman and would be a 9+ if her personality and presence matched her looks. I guess I can understand as Mya has had a string a 'bad' luck lately. She has called me several times (wanting to 'talk'). And it now seems that she is a few months pregnant with kid #3. To make a long post short, she is another example of youth expecting everything for nothing.
I'm now up in Chicago and the action is scarce as the state has made the hobby a felony.
Be safe everyone.
Bill, at our age, the old adage, "the pen is mightier than the sword" directly applies.
Hebronhustler
09-10-10, 23:30
I went trolling for several hours today while on my extended lunch break from work. In the area of ELM and MicMillan I saw a beautiful WSW from behind. I thought it had to be too good to be true. Muwst be LEO or something. As I drive by I look over and the WSW turns her head and makes eye contact. Its at this point I'm in total shock. I couldn't even tell you if I stopped the car or kept going. It was young white guy all done up like a hot chick! WTF! I'm used to seeing black guys doing this but never saw a white one. Then I drive another block towards Linn and there is another white guy putting makeup on and doing his hair. I couldn't believe it. What happened to all the good veteran WSW's that used to run this area? Why isn't uncle leo picking these posers up for false advertising?
I have been a member of this post for awhile now and I do more reading than posting. Just thought I would put in a good word for my new guilty pleasure and attempt to find my other.
First, I want to recommend Trina who resides on Elm right after the market. She is a redhead and her skills are a 8 or 9 with a great attitude. I have been seeing her for a couple of weeks now and she is fairly new. She said she did it for a little while last year and is now back out. Her boyfriend was looking out for her when we first met and now he is in jail so she is paying some other guy to watch out for her because the other girls keep robbing her. Anyway, nice tits great oral and always is clean (smells like she just got out of the shower) but she only comes out at night. She didn't have a phone when we first met, but she does now. I didn't take her new number because just from experience she probably won't have it for to long and I have had a bad experience with some calling me.
I picked up a mixed sw named Pocahotas about two months ago and have never seen her again. What a treat she was! I would kill to find her again. If anyone knows where she is pm me.
Back to my other guilty pleasure...BSWs. Pocohontas is the closet one I've come to. I would love to know where to find one. My usual route is down MCM from MLK and up Elm, etc. I never see any. I do go around LPH, but have only picked up one WSW and she was missing a front tooth and had so so skills. I don't see to much around LPH. I also don't know where to go to get to UPH. Anyway, any help would be appreciated and someone let me know where to go to get to UPH.
I had been mulling over Bill Fanta's recent post about looking elsewhere instead of the regular spots for girls. Then one night, with windows rolled down, I had a girl that I didn't want attract all the wrong kind of attention at a light I couldn't run to get away. (Obviously, she didn't take Bill's grad course!!) Luckily, I quietly rolled away while I watched LEO have a curbside conversation with her in my rear-view mirror.
Enough is enough.
That was the kick in the butt I needed to quit rolling the same route with the same people I DON'T WANT ON IT. Bill's right --- it is a big, wide open world out there, and there is far too much drama in a small area of it.
So I went into Lewis & Clark mode (desperately seeking Pocahontas!!).
I spread out north, east, south and west. I found that by strictly following The Rules at all times and being attentive to opportunities (and wary of possible civilians, read The Rules!) and getting out of my damned car (a bad habit I've been in recently) and creatively engaging girls, I am here to report that I had a nice time in each direction I went this week meeting many new faces.
Well, new to me, because these areas were new to me.
Oddly, I couldn't figure out a pattern to any of it or them. I will though, just give me some time. Where I met someone one day would be consistently empty on others. Areas that looked like they had potential would never produce fruit. Once, on a leg stretch/food run, I boldly (and quite out of character) gave a potential girl 'The Look', which lead to some nice conversation and adult fun for the afternoon.
So get out there and think outside the bun to get that hun! You just may be surprised as I was and start enjoying the hobby again.
Just getting back into the hobby after a fairly long absence, and I had some time on my hands, so I thought I'd roll the old stroll and see whats new in OTR.
Since I was in total recon mode (my ride is a good vehicle, sadly it says "LOOK AT ME!"), no street action today. I hit Liberty & Vine & McMiken, basically a big box around the shell station. Rolled from 1 till 2 this afternoon. And I saw:
OTR has seen some urban renewal,
A fair amount of LE, mostly Ham Co Sheriff escorting the litter patrol,
1 BSW, 20's and kinda cute, but I was window shopping.
And thats about it.
I'd hoped to report more, but sometimes no contact is what you get.
Timmah!
I had been mulling over Bill Fanta's recent post about looking elsewhere instead of the regular spots for girls.... getting out of my damned car (a bad habit I've been in recently) and creatively engaging girls... once, on a leg stretch/food run, I boldly (and quite out of character) gave a potential girl 'The Look', which lead to some nice conversation and adult fun for the afternoon.... So get out there and think outside the bun.
There is a lot to be gained by doing that although I personally have a difficult time leaving the protective confines of my vehicle but have done so on a couple of occaisons. Harpo, Mr B, and others have posted about the benefits of popping into the corner store to get a pop and how it can provide opportunities for chatting with and setting something up with that diamond you might not otherwise run across.
I took a wide sweeping tour of the usual spots last night in the 10pm to 11:30pm range. While I found LE to be virtually non existent (except for the church lot on McMic) unfortuately the SW's were not plentiful either unless my timing was just off.
One humorous observation though was in LPH. Saw preggo Sarah wearing a short denim skirt but her top was horizontal, broad, black-n-white stripes that brought to mind a more stylish version of jail house garb. On both passes she was chatting with a group of people, paid no attention at all to passing traffic so she was obviously off the clock. Other than her, only saw a skank or two so no fun to report.
I think I've found a unique new area for what I believe are a few young unhardened WSW's. I've seen a couple lookouts along with a pickup and dropoff and some serious strutting from multiple girls. I've seen the girls out on a regular basis but wasn't sure if they were working or not. I haven't pulled the trigger on one yet given that they don't flare their arms and don't approach vehicles. I think the average mongerer has to be semi-aggressive with asking them for a ride. They blend in pretty well. I don't want to alert LE so seniors that I know can PM me and we can ponder the situation.
Member #4523
09-16-10, 18:43
I was over in Cincy this afternoon, just cruising various areas. Saw a pretty, light-skined black girl at a bus stop and thought she gave me the look. I stop a ways down the street and wait but she is still at the bus stop. OK, I circle around and go past her again, this time on the other side of the street. Again I pull over where she can see me and wait for a minute or so until I have to finally admit that this attractive young lady, who is wearing a very low cut outfit, is just a civilian after all.
I head back home but decide to swing through Covington on the way. I see a young black girl at a bus stop. I'm thinking she is almost surely a civilian because I haven't see ANY young, attractive BSWs in Covington. As I drive past her she BLOWS ME A LITTLE KISS! Now we've got action!
I pull over to the curb a half block on down the street and she starts walking my way. Gets right into the car and we begin building a relationship.
She says her name is JJ and that she's 25 years old. As we ride along, we see a police car nearby and she immediately says that if we are stopped I should say I know her from an AA meeting and she even provides the street address of the meeting and what I must assume is her real full name. Got to give her points here for knowing how to handle the situation. LE doesn't pay any attention to us and we head for my spot.
JJ says she is just recently back in town after having lived in several small KY towns recently. Says she is living with her mom. Her outfit shows off some nice breasts and I begin looking forward to getting to know her better.
We get to my spot and she plops out her left breast. I thought it might be impolite to ignore this offer of friendship and it did seem to enhance the rapport between us when I tweaked her nipple and checked to make sure there were no implants in either breast.
I started to say that she displayed very good oral skills, but then, for me, oral skills fall along a two-point scale; they are either good enough or not good enough and hers were definitely good enough.
As I was taking her back, she revealed that she was OCD. She said she washes her hands many times a day and I noticed that she was wiping her hands on some Kleenex tissues I had provided. I won her over completely by pulling out my little pack of Sani Hands Antibacterial Moist Wipes. These little wipes are made for kids, but I think they kill bacteria on adults as well. Just as I thought, she was VERY pleased to wipe away with a little moist wipe.
Then she started looking around rather frantically and said she seemed to have lost a hair extension. We never found it and I started thinking about possible explanations if my wife runs across it. Then she said she thinks she has lost her phone. I drive back to the place I picked her up and there's her phone on a bench. Amazing that it was still there. She says she loses everything.
We bid farewell and I drive off. Then I notice that she has left the remains of a soft drink in the car, so I wheel back around, find her, and hand her the drink. Noticing that the allergies she mentioned earlier are threatening to produce a runny nose, I also hand her a fist full of Kleenex tissues. I think I've made a friend!
I got digits, but when I tried the number the mailbox was full. All in all, it was an unexpected success just as I was about to give up and head home. I'd like to see her again and expect that I probably will.
Member #4523
09-17-10, 11:21
It turns out that JJ DID give me her true name. I know because I made a visit to the Ken ton County Detention Center Website (http://www.jailtracker.com/kncdc/kenton_inmatelist.html) and discovered that JJ has run afoul of LE on numerous occasions. I counted 21 arrests for a variety of offenses since 2003. Offenses include possession of weed, terroristic threatening (whatever that means), non-payment of fines, probation violation, contempt of court, theft by deception (involved checks), disorderly conduct (multiple times), alcohol intoxication, theft of identity, criminal mischief, resisting arrest, and prostitution (only once!).
Gee, and I thought she was a pretty nice girl. I guess my standards are a bit low when it comes to judging SWs? Hey, she didn’t rob me, beat me up, or fail to provide decent service for a decent price, so she’s not all bad! Not sure I’d pick her up again though.
The charge that concerned me was identity theft. I’m thinking I don’t want to call that number she gave me and by doing so give her my cell number. I did call the number once and heard that her mailbox was full and now I’m hoping she doesn’t sort through her missed call list and find me. I was going to give her digits to senior members of the forum, but after my research, I can’t imagine anyone wanting them.
BTW, that link to the Kenton County Detention Center Website was given to me by a friendly senior member and I thank him for that! I don't mention him by name because I am not sure he wants the publicity.
Talltreeman
09-17-10, 15:05
I went for a cruise on Tuesday night after the Reds game settled down. Good weather warm enough did the usual routes. Covington standard hotspots were empty.
Cincy run had 2 tweakers in elm area and the ebony & ivory drag queens. Everything else was empty looked further north as well.
I have real concerns for the gentrification of the vine st. north of liberty area.
It turns out that JJ DID give me her true name. I know because I made a visit to the Ken ton County Detention Center Website (http://www.jailtracker.com/kncdc/kenton_inmatelist.html) and discovered that JJ has run afoul of LE on numerous occasions. I counted 21 arrests for a variety of offenses since 2003. Offenses include possession of weed, terroristic threatening (whatever that means), non-payment of fines, probation violation, contempt of court, theft by deception (involved checks), disorderly conduct (multiple times), alcohol intoxication, theft of identity, criminal mischief, resisting arrest, and prostitution (only once!).
Gee, and I thought she was a pretty nice girl. I guess my standards are a bit low when it comes to judging SWs? Hey, she didn’t rob me, beat me up, or fail to provide decent service for a decent price, so she’s not all bad! Not sure I’d pick her up again though.
The charge that concerned me was identity theft. I’m thinking I don’t want to call that number she gave me and by doing so give her my cell number. I did call the number once and heard that her mailbox was full and now I’m hoping she doesn’t sort through her missed call list and find me. I was going to give her digits to senior members of the forum, but after my research, I can’t imagine anyone wanting them.
BTW, that link to the Kenton County Detention Center Website was given to me by a friendly senior member and I thank him for that! I don't mention him by name because I am not sure he wants the publicity.
Nice research.
Terroristic threatening is something like telling someone that you have a bomb in your backpack & that you're going to set it off it you don't get what you want. I'm sure there are lesser acts that fall into the same charge, but that's the one I remember seeing on the news.
Good luck out there, Bill.
Well these forums are here for a very good reason on how to pickup good pussy. Following that statement, I'm here to say I should have listened to BIll on his experience with Mya. I should have stopped when she told me all the guys take her number but never call!
I found her one evening on McMicken in tight jeans and a leather coat with a cute face. Had some decent bullshitting going on and off we went to the spot. After getting comfortable, she takes off her pants and panties. After seeing the dry legs, hairy and bumpy ass, that was fine with me she didn't take off her shirt. She then proceeds to attempt to get me hard using a handjob using some kind of claw-yank technique. After THAT didn't work too well, I had to put some sexy visuals in my head and wallah. She wanted me on top but I told her to get on top. .....That was the most PISS POOR riding job I ever seen. I just started watching family guy and told her to get off since I was as flacid as a guy trying to fuck Rosie ODonnel. I drove her back and dropped her of at W.C. I had politely took her number on her way out and impolitely erased it on my way out. She made me disappointed and nauseated from her lack of everything. I wouldn't even recommend this chick to one of my worst enemies. Nasty ass smellling, body hair havin, lotion needin, skank.
wait... wait... wait.......HUUUURRRLL....burp.
Face: 7 Cute but couple of spots
Body w/o Clothes/Hygiene: 1
Enthusiasm: 0
Blowjob: 0
Techniques: 0
Repeat: Not if she were the last piece of ass on the planet.
-Nati
Member of BFAWBC
PS. I might have to pull a Fanta by finding her again and telling her why no one calls her.
Member #4523
09-18-10, 11:01
Thinking back about some posts that were made about “the ideal SW,” it occurred to me that what sets one SW or one SW “date” apart is often something that may seem small. A great example of this is a comment Giani made in post #1269 when he said, “I like at least *some* hint of a GFE. She should at least pretend to enjoy your company, to engage you on some personal level. In a memorable trick, the slim, tall young SW, with a bounce in her step and a smile on her face, she took my hand and led me into the woods.” I think it’s safe to say that the “bounce in her step,” the “smile on her face,” and the fact that she took his hand to lead him into the woods make this trick memorable to a MUCH greater degree than the intensity of any orgasm or orgasms he may have experienced that evening.
Similarly, in my strange, memorable, and emotional experience with Keisha (detailed in my post #1299), it wasn’t the sex that stood out in my memory days later, it was a small moment in the car as I was driving her, her aunt, and the aunt’s friend back to the motel. It was an odd and anxiety provoking situation for me and I guess my tension showed on my face as I looked over at Keisha. She gave me a little smile and reached over to give my shoulder a little rub. No words were exchanged, but that intimate little moment took up residence in my memory and is still there.
It seems to me that it’s these little moments that can give value and depth to our experiences with SWs. I’m not saying that getting that nut isn’t important since that’s obviously the heart of the matter for most of us most of the time. But if you agree with me on the importance of these small, positive moments, then ask yourself how can we increase their frequency. The two techniques that come mind are; 1) compliments, and 2) TIPS.
I believe that compliments can have powerful effects on behavior if they are delivered in a clear and genuine manner. If a SW provides “non-rushed” service, be sure to tell her that you appreciate it as that will surely increase the chances of non-rushed service in the future, for you or another monger. Compliment any aspect of her appearance or behavior that appeals to you to increase the chances it will reappear in the future.
TIPS (To Insure Pleasurable Service) can also be effective, but can create problems as well. If you tip a SW $5 after a particularly nice time with her, she will ALWAYS remember this and expect the same total payout the next time. So I’m thinking that since compliments can be just as powerful and are always cheaper, use (but don’t overuse) them to modify SW behavior in favorable directions.
Please pardon these musings of an old, retired guy on a Saturday morning. I just wanted to share some thoughts with you and hope someone finds some value in them.
Finally, Getnati, I'm really sorry to hear about your experience with Mya. Guess I'm not the only one who had trouble getting off with her. Maybe someone will buy her a copy of "The Pocket Idiot's Guide to Oral Sex" ($9.95 at Amazon.com and eligible for FREE Super Saver Shipping). The one reviewer of the book at Amazon gave it 5 stars, so it might help her if she can read. It won't help those hairy legs and ass though!
Man you have to quit holding back, just tell us how you really feel.
Well these forums are here for a very good reason on how to pickup good pussy. Following that statement, I'm here to say I should have listened to BIll on his experience with Mya. I should have stopped when she told me all the guys take her number but never call!
I found her one evening on McMicken in tight jeans and a leather coat with a cute face. Had some decent bullshitting going on and off we went to the spot. After getting comfortable, she takes off her pants and panties. After seeing the dry legs, hairy and bumpy ass, that was fine with me she didn't take off her shirt. She then proceeds to attempt to get me hard using a handjob using some kind of claw-yank technique. After THAT didn't work too well, I had to put some sexy visuals in my head and wallah. She wanted me on top but I told her to get on top. .....That was the most PISS POOR riding job I ever seen. I just started watching family guy and told her to get off since I was as flacid as a guy trying to fuck Rosie ODonnel. I drove her back and dropped her of at W.C. I had politely took her number on her way out and impolitely erased it on my way out. She made me disappointed and nauseated from her lack of everything. I wouldn't even recommend this chick to one of my worst enemies. Nasty ass smellling, body hair havin, lotion needin, skank.
wait... wait... wait.......HUUUURRRLL....burp.
Face: 7 Cute but couple of spots
Body w/o Clothes/Hygiene: 1
Enthusiasm: 0
Blowjob: 0
Techniques: 0
Repeat: Not if she were the last piece of ass on the planet.
-Nati
Member of BFAWBC
PS. I might have to pull a Fanta by finding her again and telling her why no one calls her.
Was disappointed with choices available on Friday night and had no fun activity to report on, but here were some observations:
- basically saw no one on McMic except for Mona where she usually likes to hang near Mohawk. Have seen her on my last two excursions so she must be on a binge and spending more time in the hood than at her more comfortable conditions on the East side of town.
- preggo Sarah was out and about in LPH and dressed quite nicely wearing black slacks and a black blazer over the black/white stripe jail house top, but once again appeared to not be working.
- offered to assist a mid 40's or so blonde in a disabled SUV on Central at Hopple. Story was that she was out of gas and she asked if I would look for daughter that was on foot and had headed to Shell. Saw no "tall blondes" (as she had been described) on foot in the short distance from there to the gas station or anyone for that matter carrying a gas can so quickly moved on. Next pass through the area the SUV was gone. While this observation is not SW related, at this point I was looking to insert myself in whatever adventure could be found and you never know where these type situations may lead!
- EVENING HIGHLIGHT: young and good looking blonde on State with hair pulled up, wearing white short skirt w/ black top and flip flops appeared to have interest in the line of cars waiting for light to change to cross 8th. She was new to me and at first I thought it might be Misty who I only know through mugshots. But this one was much better looking than Misty and she proceeded to cross 8th on green so passed her in the intersection with the intent to circle and intersect her at the upcoming side street. In less than the minute or so that it took to do that she was gone. Did anyone else observe her last night?
Doesn't anybody know what happened to a girl named Lisa? She used to hang out downtown at the Carew Tower mall. She had short black hair, nice body, and a scar on her neck. She always wore turtleneck sweaters to cover her scar. I don't know what happened to her, but she never talked about it. I used to hang out with her. Not sure if she turned tricks regularly, but I know she did some. I think she lived in Northern Kentucky.
Any ideas?
Fastlad Baker
09-20-10, 08:40
Not sure if I liked it. Was to worried about my surroundings to enjoy myself.
I don't think I will do it again.
Member #4523
09-20-10, 12:54
Not sure if I liked it. Was to worried about my surroundings to enjoy myself.
I don't think I will do it again.
I understand what you are saying about being too worried to really enjoy yourself. "Car dates" are rarely that enjoyable for me, mostly for just this reason. Even if you have a couple of good spots to go to, there is the chance of someone parking near you or an LE car cruising by near you or a surveillance camera you didn't notice getting your picture.
One option I use, if the SW I pick up is still looking attractive to me when she gets into the car (we all know that SW attractiveness sometimes decreases drastically when they get close enough to touch and smell), I'll take her to a low cost motel. By "low cost" I mean something in the $50 - $55 range. That way, if you are paying the SW no more than $40 max., your total cost for an hour of playing around in a relatively comfortable and low anxiety environment is under $100. I realize that this is WAY more than many mongers who focus on SWs are willing to pay, but it is still less than all but the most low-end escorts. If the SW has her own ID and you trust her not to cash-and-dash on you, you might negotiate a deal with her where you give her the $50 to rent the room in her name so that she can keep the room after the two of your are done. If you toss in an additional $10 to $20 cash, and if she really wants the room for her own use, you might get a really nice hour in the safety of a motel room for $70 or less.
Hebronhustler
09-20-10, 23:28
Not sure if I liked it. Was to worried about my surroundings to enjoy myself.
I don't think I will do it again.Car dates are hard to get used to. Too much to worry about. Someone walking up and robbing you, police, neighbors, etc. I still struggle when I do a car date. I'm with Bill, your best bet is a notel. There is one I use sometimes called the Fulton. It charges by the hour. You can get a room for $25. Not the best rooms, but they serve their purpose. They all have mirrors everywhere to.
Fastlad Baker
09-21-10, 09:49
Thanks for your input. May try that!
I have used The Fulton a couple of times (and the mirrors do make for a fun experience). One call out about the point mentioned by Bill Fanta: he mentions having the SW sign for the room and in turn for doing so she is able to retain the room. This benefits her by having a place to get off the street for the night or for entertaining other hourly guests that evening and of course it leaves you off the hook in terms of tracability and being liable for any damages that may or may not occur while you are there.
This win-win situation may exist at other no-tels but at The Fulton I believe that once the parties exit the room it is then forfeited at that time. The doors have locks that can be locked while you are in the room, but there are no keys issued. Perhaps there is some tiered level of preferred service provided there that gets you the honeymoon suite complete with keys, so someone please jump in and correct me if this is not accurate info.
On both short stays that I experienced there the SW signed for the room and I do not believe any ID was shown.
I was on State heading north towards 8th around 11:00 last night when I saw a smoking hot girl on the east side of the street. She looked asian or hispanic, but could have been a light skinned black. She was young, thin, and attractive with dark hair pulled up, a slinky black halter dress, and high heels. She looked more like an upscale stripper than a SW. I did a double take and she gave me the nod. I turned down a side street to loop around. When I came back around I didn't see her and couldn't believe how quick she got snatched, but then I saw her with a pedestrian down a side street.
I turned around again but this time I spotted a CPD cruiser and a white van parked behind some cars in a lot down and across the street. I was attracting attention from folks sitting out on their stoops, so I bolted.
Either I was unlucky enough to miss out on the hottest SW Cinci will ever see, or I was super lucky to avoid a sting. She definately looked TGTBT!
I was on State heading north towards 8th around 11:00 last night when I saw a smoking hot girl on the east side of the street. She looked asian or hispanic, but could have been a light skinned black. She was young, thin, and attractive with dark hair pulled up, a slinky black halter dress, and high heels. She looked more like an upscale stripper than a SW....
I turned around again but this time I spotted a CPD cruiser and a white van parked behind some cars in a lot down and across the street....
Either I was unlucky enough to miss out on the hottest SW Cinci will ever see, or I was super lucky to avoid a sting.
Since we are not in Orange County, CA seeing a SW that looks like this in Cincy should send up serious red flags. I'm not saying the she couldn't be legit, but...
There were reports from two summers ago of seeing someone dressed like a hot stripper walking OTR for a couple of days. As I recall it was not a decoy, but I am not certain that anyone got to sample her wares either -or- at least no one that participates in this forum. It did stir up some attention though because you just do not see that here.
I had one experience at your same location that I have pasted a link to. In that instance she was dressed to fit the LPH surroundings, but she dd not give off the SW vibe: http://usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=857675&postcount=530
Looking TGTBT with nearby LE activity makes me think you got lucky and were wise to keep moving.
Hebronhustler
09-22-10, 23:52
This win-win situation may exist at other no-tels but at The Fulton I believe that once the parties exit the room it is then forfeited at that time. The doors have locks that can be locked while you are in the room, but there are no keys issued. Perhaps there is some tiered level of preferred service provided there that gets you the honeymoon suite complete with keys, so someone please jump in and correct me if this is not accurate info.
On both short stays that I experienced there the SW signed for the room and I do not believe any ID was shown.They don't ask for any ID. They just ask you to fill out a card. And you are correct about the room. I think you are correct about forfeiting the room.
Mr Boombastic
09-24-10, 16:01
This is why it is good to get out of the car, if possible and walk to the corner store for a drink or something. It is always someone standing out front, and if you are in the area enough they know you are okay, not LE, and are looking for SW's.
They won't bother you as long as you don't come off terrified to be there. Then you can get any kind of info you want especially if you are willing to buy them a cheap 40oz, this for free beer, will get you everything and all the information you want.
The problem is that everytime they see you they are going to want you to buy them a 40 even when you don't need info. You can handle that by making certain that they only get anything if they have good info or a decent SW to your liking.
Once established I have been warned about LE in the area, stings & decoys, SW's talking to LE, SW's in Jail, SW cheats, SW's too F'ed-up on drugs, SW's in LE trouble, & boyfriend/pimp troubles, and so on & so on. All for a 2 dollar 40oz cheap, high Alcohol beer.
This is how I find certain SW's in most areas. It works best in the warm month, but not the super hot days, and never the cold days. No one is out.
Once you get a rep as not being LE and a certain amount of trust working for you, you can get a lot. I even act like I am looking to buy some of the apartments building and have gotten FREE info, and SEX because they thought I could help them. Every now and then it still works, but I am better known now.
As CeeNote says drive around any area, and look for LE or LE trying to hide. If she is TGTBT then take extra caution. If she is true you might loose her TO SOMEONE ELSE while looking around, but if she is a decoy, then you will have saved more than you'll ever know.
Your Own "ASS".
Since we are not in Orange County, CA seeing a SW that looks like this in Cincy should send up serious red flags. I'm not saying the she couldn't be legit, but.
There were reports from two summers ago of seeing someone dressed like a hot stripper walking OTR for a couple of days. As I recall it was not a decoy, but I am not certain that anyone got to sample her wares either.or- at least no one that participates in this forum. It did stir up some attention though because you just do not see that here.
I had one experience at your same location that I have pasted a link to. In that instance she was dressed to fit the LPH surroundings, but she dd not give off the SW vibe: http://usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php? P=857675&postcount=530
Looking TGTBT with nearby LE activity makes me think you got lucky and were wise to keep moving.
It's chilly in the evenings now, and lots of action is in the day mainly. Found Melissa/Missy on Mcmicken this weekend. She has longer gold hair usually done up or something. She wears glasses occasionally. Dresses pretty sexy and has a nice build. I'm pretty sure I've met with her in the Spring. I have to say that she gives a damn good BBBJCIM. Cold weather is approaching and the game gets thinner. Enjoy while it's here.
Attitude - 10
Looks and Hygiene - 8
BJ - 9
Member #4523
09-26-10, 21:53
Wasn’t really feeling very needy this afternoon, but had some time to kill, so I headed north on I-75. Yep, you guessed it; I was stuck in a horrible traffic jam due to the lane closings on the Brent-Spence Bridge. I finally get over to Cincy and head up Elm. It’s slightly embarrassing to admit why I have been driving up Elm lately – it’s because that’s where I picked up a young BSW named Keisha (post #1246) that I found particularly attractive and who won me over with her great attitude and friendliness. I saw Keisha twice but a couple of days later her phone number no longer worked and I had no way of tracking her down. So when I have nothing better to do, I cruise by the spot where I picked her up and indulge in magical thinking and unfounded optimism. Actually, it’s almost certainly best for me in every conceivable way if I never see her again. I liked her too much for my own good.
So I’m driving north on Elm and see a stocky, young BSW with purple hair. I turn onto a side street and she comes over to the car and gets in. I’m not real taken with her appearance, but her partially exposed breasts are a bit appealing, so trot out my usual opening line and say, “What’s your name, baby?” She replies that her name is Keisha. What? Yes, she says, “Keisha.” Of course, she is not the SAME Keisha I have been pining for, but she is in my car and the Keisha I was seeking is probably in Decatur, GA or some other unlikely spot. It’s the old, “love the one you’re with” idea.
This Keisha says she is 25 years old and has two children, ages 8 and 5 as I recall. I ask, “Did you grow up around here?” And she says, “no.” So I’m thinking maybe she is from Columbus, or Texas, or Nepal, but she says she grew up in Price Hill.
We head for a parking garage I’ve used before and she displays an almost total lack of conversational skills. She’ll answer questions, but never asks any herself. Never asks my name or anything about me other than to ask, “What do you want to do?”
I offer $20 and she accepts. Her skills are about average, looks about average, and attitude about average. If you are into stocky, young BSWs you can look for Keisha on Elm, but you should wait until dark as she said she is rarely out during daylight hours. (Don’t worry about her exclusively nocturnal habits; I did the standard vampire check along with the LE check.)
All in all, a pretty unremarkable episode and probably not worth a post, but I try to report on just about every scoop in case someone out there can use the information or, on occasion, the laugh.
So I’m driving north on Elm and see a stocky, young BSW with purple hair.I've seen her around often lately as well. Odd that you had a pretty normal encounter. I'm not saying that is a bad thing at all! You need to keep that trend going.
A monger friend of mine had the pleasure/displeasure of meeting Trisha about a month ago in Northside. At the time she had blonde hair but dyed brown underneath, tallish, early 20s with painted toes and apparently the shortest pair of blue jean shorts known to man. Apparently, their first date was a delightful time for both, as he has told me over and over again.
He shared her digits with me. Unfortunately, before I had a chance to make that call, he had a second date with her that was all rush rush rush, flagrant inflation, conditional upselling, bold lies and DOS attack. I guess the lesson learned is if you meet her, keep her on a short leash or you will be buried by her bs.
I noticed that LEO had stopped a copy SWs up by Mockbee at the top of the McMik grade recently. Why those SWs would stroll within a block or so of the infamous vinyl sign from the summer, I'll never know. What I found most interesting was that, in addition to the cop's cruiser was a cop on a bicycle (have only seen those downtown before this) and the reappearance of the long-haired blonde female undercover officer that I have seen down by Interstate a few times.
Mr Boombastic
09-27-10, 14:59
If you didn't know then you should know now that the whole area around the Interstate Motel will be gone soon, as in over the next couple of years.
They are moving people out right now, and the whole area will be vacant.
The City/State is going to straighten out the road, for progress, and everyone including the SW's will have to move elsewhere.
This will start to happen very quickly, once it starts. The whole road at the intersection may not be open to through traffic. So keep in tune, and know what is going on.
Once the progress starts, the way things are going will change, and the SW's there will have to move, somewhere.
I know the Police especially Dist. #5 will welcome the change. It will be less trouble for them. It may be better for US Too.
Time Will Tell
Spotted Julie tonight 28yo WSW on McMic midway between Industrial zone and Ravine and got a discrete little wave from her as I passed. Initial thoughts were TGTBT. I had never seen her out before and she just didn't look the part. It took me a while to get back to her and surprisingly she was still there.
Gave her the look so that she knew what I was up to, turned on my turn signal, but rolled a little bit further before moving over to the curb. I have been known to make those that are new to me do a little walking. My thoughts are that if it is a decoy they will need to maintain control of their environment and she will need to remain within eye sight of their visual survalience and LE doesn't want their girl moving on up the street out of view. She immediately crossed the street however and made her way up the street to where I had parked and she jumped right in.
Her first comments were "I am gonna be sooo embarrassed if you were not actually pulling over to get me". My inital assessment remained that she looked more like the girl next door and didn't really look like a SW: attractive, clean, make up, tan, nice clothes, smelled nice. We roll and once down the street she gets a handful of Lil Cee and allows me to enjoy going through the motion of getting to run my checks on her. Story goes that she lives across the river, has kids, a job, but is a PT'er who likes to come out on occaision to supplement her income. Okay... so far so good and then come the negotiations.
She is telling me how .3 to .4 is her usual for BJ and I tell her how maybe I spend more time on the street than she does and that my experience has shown that .2 is the going rate for this part of town. Well that didn't go over too well and the problem was that this girl was good looking and KNEW that she was, but I couldn't let on to that. Somewhat surprised that she settled for .25 but if she hadn't I would have had to have thrown her back because that was all in for me. This is where this story fizzles out quickly.
Having a SW with exceptional good looks is no guarantee of exceptional service and proved to be the case here. Rush rush rush and I did not like her rapid fire, jack hammer like technique that would only last for short bursts and would stop so she could check how much longer I was gonna need. When that kind of talk starts from the beginning it pretty much ruins it for me. She also did not catch when that had been the original plan discussed.
Perhaps she is able to usually command the higher amounts mentioned based on her looks alone and provided me the cut rate service because I offended her with my offer, but I somehow think it wouldn't have made any difference. She has digits because she was immediately on the phone before I could even wipe up, but I had no interest in any possible future meetings with her.
Ceenote's side notes: Spotted a red head at the bus stop at the bottom of Straight St along with two others a couple of nights ago (none of them were known to me). All three were decent looking but looked more like they going out to hit the bars together than working. Red caught my attention because it made me think about what J-me might have looked like a few years ago. Tonight spotted the red head closer to MLK, wearing a dress, heels and a long coat. She was holding the side panels of the coat and sort of flapping her arms to draw the attention of passing traffic as she was sort of in a particularly dark area of the street. She had a black handler moving in the same direction on the opposite side of the street. Seems like a while back there were mutiple Red's around, but anyone with any knowledge on this one?
Member #4523
09-29-10, 10:39
Spotted Julie tonight 28yo WSW on McMic midway between Industrial zone and Ravine and got a discrete little wave from her as I passed. Initial thoughts were TGTBT. I had never seen her out before and she just didn't look the part. It took me a while to get back to her and surprisingly she was still there.
Gave her the look so that she knew what I was up to, turned on my turn signal, but rolled a little bit further before moving over to the curb. I have been known to make those that are new to me do a little walking. My thoughts are that if it is a decoy they will need to maintain control of their environment and she will need to remain within eye sight of their visual survalience and LE doesn't want their girl moving on up the street out of view. She immediately crossed the street however and made her way up the street to where I had parked and she jumped right in.
Her first comments were "I am gonna be sooo embarrassed if you were not actually pulling over to get me". My inital assessment remained that she looked more like the girl next door and didn't really look like a SW: attractive, clean, make up, tan, nice clothes, smelled nice. We roll and once down the street she gets a handful of Lil Cee and allows me to enjoy going through the motion of getting to run my checks on her. Story goes that she lives across the river, has kids, a job, but is a PT'er who likes to come out on occaision to supplement her income. Okay... so far so good and then come the negotiations.
She is telling me how .3 to .4 is her usual for BJ and I tell her how maybe I spend more time on the street than she does and that my experience has shown that .2 is the going rate for this part of town. Well that didn't go over too well and the problem was that this girl was good looking and KNEW that she was, but I couldn't let on to that. Somewhat surprised that she settled for .25 but if she hadn't I would have had to have thrown her back because that was all in for me. This is where this story fizzles out quickly.
Having a SW with exceptional good looks is no guarantee of exceptional service and proved to be the case here. Rush rush rush and I did not like her rapid fire, jack hammer like technique that would only last for short bursts and would stop so she could check how much longer I was gonna need. When that kind of talk starts from the beginning it pretty much ruins it for me. She also did not catch when that had been the original plan discussed.
Perhaps she is able to usually command the higher amounts mentioned based on her looks alone and provided me the cut rate service because I offended her with my offer, but I somehow think it wouldn't have made any difference. She has digits because she was immediately on the phone before I could even wipe up, but I had no interest in any possible future meetings with her.
Ceenote's side notes: Spotted a red head at the bus stop at the bottom of Straight St along with two others a couple of nights ago (none of them were known to me). All three were decent looking but looked more like they going out to hit the bars together than working. Red caught my attention because it made me think about what J-me might have looked like a few years ago. Tonight spotted the red head closer to MLK, wearing a dress, heels and a long coat. She was holding the side panels of the coat and sort of flapping her arms to draw the attention of passing traffic as she was sort of in a particularly dark area of the street. She had a black handler moving in the same direction on the opposite side of the street. Seems like a while back there were mutiple Red's around, but anyone with any knowledge on this one?
Your post allows me to add one more data point to my informal collection of information about the relationship between physical attractiveness and skills. I think there is a negative correlation here with a tendency for higher attractiveness to be associated with lesser skills. My two most attractive SWs (Lehia and Keisha) were both in their twenties and below average when it came to skills. On the other hand, the two SWs I have encountered with the best skills were a 40 year-old BSW who was below average in physical attractiveness (and a record that included a felony conviction on a drug charge) and a 45 year-old BSW who also is a bit below average in terms of physical attractiveness. This relationship between attractiveness and skills probably does not hold when it comes to escorts. My one escort experience was with a young woman who was above average in attractiveness and way above average in skills. What do you think, guy? Does it seem to you that as you go up in attractiveness there tends to be (not invariably, but a tendency) a lower level of skills?
Nkykinkyguy
09-29-10, 10:59
Hey Bill F.
Ever hear the old married joke where the groom is smiling from ear to ear at the alter and the best man asks why he is smiling so much and the groom says "I just got the best blow job ever!" and the bride is also smiling from ear to ear and the bridesmaid asks her the same question and she answers "I just gave my last blow job ever!"
It is no different with street walkers, C/L Girls/BP Girls or Eros Girls. If they think they are attractive enough or in a position to get away with sub par performance and still get paid they will do it. If the price is right they will do whatever you want (Even some of the things they say are off limits). I tested this theory with a local provider once that clearly stated under no circumstances "NO ANAL" I found the price that made her say YES!
Now it did cost me a significant donation but if the money is there the service will be there.
It was just a little psychology experiment that I got a lot of fun out of LOL!
Beauty and service do have a correlation when you throw price into the equation.
There are exceptions to every rule. Some girls (Providers included) just like sex in all forms, those are the fun ones LOL!
KG
Jay Malibu
09-29-10, 11:11
YMMV almost always applies, but in my travels, younger/better looking ladies tend to not need great skills in order to survive. There are exceptions to this rule as always. Nonetheless, older providers then to have great skills. I think they depend more on reviews -- and good to great reviews require good to great service. I think too many guys think with the little head and don't do enough research. A hot chick easily gets the wood up, but for me the total experience is more important than the initial impression. I can think of many exceptions, even in our area, so this is very much a generalization and not a hard and fast rule. In fact my current ATF is probably not out of her twenties and is both attractive and skilled. Suffice it to say that I don't let age and pictures influence me to a great extent. There's more to a hot time than looks. Ron Jeremy is a great example of this in the reverse. There are many, many hot porn ladies that love him and he's hardly an example of a young buff guy. The ladies l-o-v-e him for the experience and not his looks (obviously).
Thought I would weigh in as well on this discussion about performance/skills versus their age/appearance, as it is one that I think about often as well.
Regardless of the amount paid, regardless of the type of work she is in (SW, escort, stripper carry-out), I have often found that it is how much of a connection that we are able to have with one another on a personal, individual level that affects her level of performance.
It is that connection that I seek as much as anything else during our brief time together. That is how ladies become my ATF. That is why I pass by many of them when I roll, because I sense that there won't be a meaningful connection, creating the environment for a great time with repeats in the future. They are just seeing me a large leather wallet.
Once a fellow monger on this board was kind enough to share digits of with me of a regular of theirs. There is always a certain nervousness when meeting someone new on my side, and I was looking for a regular myself. When I suggested we meet and have lunch (which I was going to pay for meal and her time) she balked. "I don't want a date. I don't want a boyfriend. Why are you wasting my time? Just come over." Again, I wanted to meet casually and cover her time, then find a place to go. I wanted to be with someone I could care about and connect with, however briefly. She wanted to just date my wallet. She only saw my wallet in her mind. And you know that will lead to only rushed, terrible service. (Which was probably where that was going to wind up.)
I know some of you are really rolling your eyes and smacking your foreheads at me at this point. We all have a wide variety of needs and desires when we are out. A monger friend of mine has told me to be like Nike. "Just do it." However, without that connection, even if it is brief and for one-time-only, I simply don't enjoy my time. It becomes a total waste of money and effort at that point. I may as well just hit and strip club and watch the sizzle and eat the steak another day.
To swing things back around to the original point and discussion, I have had beautiful ladies and semi-ugly ladies but have had great, consensual adult time together because of our connection with one another, however brief. The same holds true on the flip side --- I have had beautiful ladies and semi-ugly ladies WITHOUT that connection and it's been nothing but rush rush rush and performance disappointment.
Some ladies don't want to see us as such, as some mongers don't want to see them as such. Which is fine. Like I said, we all have a wide variety of needs and desires when we are out. For me, to be able to connect with a lady I find agreeable and meaningful, both of us having a great time, and repeating over and over (so she doesn't have to stroll and I don't have to roll) would be sweet. Especially with the colder weather on the way.
Talltreeman
09-29-10, 18:15
I cruised the McMicken route and the new areas last night around midnight. Saw only one Black Female TV by Elm and McMicken. Drove over to LPH and hit a jacpot about 7 or 8 gave me the look mostly white girls. I circled back and was sad that 4 had disappeared and the others were only the rough looking white girls from McMicken area zero new faces. Maybe I need glasses or they need better lighting in LPH. (LOL)
I normally don't post in this thread, because I don't partake in this area. I do read all the threads, though. This discussion intrigued me (partially, because the SW thread is one of the "cleanest" in terms of posts that aren't reports, but mostly because of the topic).
As more of you post, I think it is becoming more clear that you must consider more than just a couple of the factors. I don't think you can exclusively look at attractiveness and performance. Even the Fanta-stic one made note of the ages of his "test subjects". Also noted was venue (SW, escort, etc.) KG added money into the mix. Soleil has added "personal connection". Jay pointed out that age and attractiveness influences how hard they have to try to be successful.
You can certainly GENERALIZE based on 2 or 3 of the factors. Less attractive = better skills, more attractive = lesser skills. But that doesn't explain the "exceptions to that rule". If you view this discussion anthropomorphically, I think you would need to extrapolate key elements from each of the categories after they are noted and then you can begin applying them to case studies. Even so, there will always be some that are outside the bell curve of your analysis. Those that are not "normal" [although I personally do not like to use that word. What IS "normal"? ]. Furthermore, some of the elements will modify each other when used in combination.
For example:
Young = less opportunity for experience = lesser skills
Older = more experience = better skills
However, if you add in KG's point that "Some girls just like sex in all forms, those are the fun ones":
I think that either young or old might have better skills. They will be more likely to be really trying to please and be pleased and they will more likely seek out more experience and improvement. It kind of makes for a "wildcard"
Some key elements I extrapolated (I'm kinda using "skills" and "performance" interchangably, but not always):
Young = less opportunity for experience = lesser skills
Older = more experience = better skills
More attractive = doesn't have to try as hard to sell herself = lesser performance
Less attractive = has to try harder to offset appearance = better skills and performance
Possibility of more money = more incentive to please = better performance (not necessarily better skills)
Average money or Little money = less incentive to please = lesser performance
Personal connection = friendlier, likes what they are doing = better performance (this might be too subjective and difficult to determine until "too late")
No connection = less friendly, in it "just for the money" = lesser performance (this might be too subjective and difficult to determine until "too late")
Just likes sex = WILDCARD and can change things up since it influences the other factors
I WILL note, personally, that attitude is very important to me. If the girl does not have the right attitude, it probably won't satisfy. A lot of things go into the "attitude" though. Friendliness, why they are doing this, do they like it, etc. So, it may not be a key/basic element but a combination of elements.
Good Attitude = better performance
Poor Attutide = lesser performance
Feel free to add to this as the discussion continues. I'm sure this is not comprehensive. Just wanted to add my thoughts and collect others.
Be safe, be well,
JR
Hebronhustler
09-30-10, 22:45
I reported awhile back about picking up a SW in Covington named "Amy". I put I thought she was TGTBT but was a young hotty. I found a pic of her on the friendly jailtracker website. Evidently she got arrested today. Her real initials are K B if anyone wants to check her out and let me know what you think.
I picked her up last week and got BBBJCIM which was really nice. She even continued sucking the cum out of my cock as it kept coming. It was really nice.
Jay Malibu
10-01-10, 09:45
I'll bet you loved stats and aced the class.
For example:
Young = less opportunity for experience = lesser skills
Older = more experience = better skills
However, if you add in KG's point that "Some girls just like sex in all forms, those are the fun ones":
I think that either young or old might have better skills. They will be more likely to be really trying to please and be pleased and they will more likely seek out more experience and improvement. It kind of makes for a "wildcard"
Some key elements I extrapolated (I'm kinda using "skills" and "performance" interchangably, but not always):
Young = less opportunity for experience = lesser skills
Older = more experience = better skills
More attractive = doesn't have to try as hard to sell herself = lesser performance
Less attractive = has to try harder to offset appearance = better skills and performance
Possibility of more money = more incentive to please = better performance (not necessarily better skills)
Average money or Little money = less incentive to please = lesser performance
Personal connection = friendlier, likes what they are doing = better performance (this might be too subjective and difficult to determine until "too late")
No connection = less friendly, in it "just for the money" = lesser performance (this might be too subjective and difficult to determine until "too late")
Just likes sex = WILDCARD and can change things up since it influences the other factors
I WILL note, personally, that attitude is very important to me. If the girl does not have the right attitude, it probably won't satisfy. A lot of things go into the "attitude" though. Friendliness, why they are doing this, do they like it, etc. So, it may not be a key/basic element but a combination of elements.
Good Attitude = better performance
Poor Attutide = lesser performance
Feel free to add to this as the discussion continues. I'm sure this is not comprehensive. Just wanted to add my thoughts and collect others.
Be safe, be well,
JR
Thank you, Jay (I'm assuming a compliment here). In my defense and out of respect, Bill Fanta started this. *laughs*
I have always loved math and science and have always considered anthropology (study of humanity) a favorite hobby. This is a particularly interesting application of THAT hobby.
JR
I'll bet you loved stats and aced the class.
I WILL note, personally, that attitude is very important to me. If the girl does not have the right attitude, it probably won't satisfy. A lot of things go into the "attitude" though. Friendliness, why they are doing this, do they like it, etc. So, it may not be a key/basic element but a combination of elements.Well said! Attitude is a huge element of making a connection, that is for certain. Oh, and you were also correct that the 'wildcard' really can mix things up in a good way! If only there was a way to identify those with the wildcard quickly & easily.
Dillsborodave
10-01-10, 13:36
I normally don't post in this thread, because I don't partake in this area. I do read all the threads, though. This discussion intrigued me (partially, because the SW thread is one of the "cleanest" in terms of posts that aren't reports, but mostly because of the topic).
As more of you post, I think it is becoming more clear that you must consider more than just a couple of the factors. I don't think you can exclusively look at attractiveness and performance. Even the Fanta-stic one made note of the ages of his "test subjects". Also noted was venue (SW, escort, etc.) KG added money into the mix. Soleil has added "personal connection". Jay pointed out that age and attractiveness influences how hard they have to try to be successful.
You can certainly GENERALIZE based on 2 or 3 of the factors. Less attractive = better skills, more attractive = lesser skills. But that doesn't explain the "exceptions to that rule". If you view this discussion anthropomorphically, I think you would need to extrapolate key elements from each of the categories after they are noted and then you can begin applying them to case studies. Even so, there will always be some that are outside the bell curve of your analysis. Those that are not "normal" [although I personally do not like to use that word. What IS "normal"? ]. Furthermore, some of the elements will modify each other when used in combination.
For example:
Young = less opportunity for experience = lesser skills
Older = more experience = better skills
However, if you add in KG's point that "Some girls just like sex in all forms, those are the fun ones":
I think that either young or old might have better skills. They will be more likely to be really trying to please and be pleased and they will more likely seek out more experience and improvement. It kind of makes for a "wildcard"
Some key elements I extrapolated (I'm kinda using "skills" and "performance" interchangably, but not always):
Young = less opportunity for experience = lesser skills
Older = more experience = better skills
More attractive = doesn't have to try as hard to sell herself = lesser performance
Less attractive = has to try harder to offset appearance = better skills and performance
Possibility of more money = more incentive to please = better performance (not necessarily better skills)
Average money or Little money = less incentive to please = lesser performance
Personal connection = friendlier, likes what they are doing = better performance (this might be too subjective and difficult to determine until "too late")
No connection = less friendly, in it "just for the money" = lesser performance (this might be too subjective and difficult to determine until "too late")
Just likes sex = WILDCARD and can change things up since it influences the other factors
I WILL note, personally, that attitude is very important to me. If the girl does not have the right attitude, it probably won't satisfy. A lot of things go into the "attitude" though. Friendliness, why they are doing this, do they like it, etc. So, it may not be a key/basic element but a combination of elements.
Good Attitude = better performance
Poor Attutide = lesser performance
Feel free to add to this as the discussion continues. I'm sure this is not comprehensive. Just wanted to add my thoughts and collect others.
Be safe, be well,
JR
Young = tight pussy older < tight pussy But hell for most of us they are all younger. lol.
Dave, I burst out laughing at that one. Oh, how true. I will factor that into my statistical analysis.
Thank you for the input!
JR
Young = tight pussy older < tight pussy But hell for most of us they are all younger. lol.
Jay Malibu
10-01-10, 15:02
Thank you, Jay (I'm assuming a compliment here). In my defense and out of respect, Bill Fanta started this. *laughs*
I have always loved math and science and have always considered anthropology (study of humanity) a favorite hobby. This is a particularly interesting application of THAT hobby.
JR
You assumed correctly -- a complement. I was impressed with your analysis. Very much matches my experience over the last five years. I will also add that if you're respectful and nice, you get respectful and nice in return -- regardless of age. This does not apply to the small number of providers that don't really want to be in the business and/or have a bad attitude. I am amazed that more providers don't have bad attitudes. The stories that I've been told of how some providers are treated by clients, just make me shake my head. I'm not sure I have thick enough skin to survive being a provider.
Jay Malibu
10-05-10, 09:06
The formerly pregnant petite blond that hangs out in Covington is out and about. I saw her hanging around on Madison just south of 8th. Didn't look like she was 'working' but I'll leave that to the experts as I'm still not sure of some of the subtleties that indicate such. For the record, when they wave and try to get in your car; I do understand that.
Mr Boombastic
10-06-10, 06:54
It is still all about timing and my timing comes and goes. Some nights I am right on mark, and if I wait just a few minutes more, and not do something quick my timing is all off.
Example I was out and about a weekend ago over the Thurs, Fri, Sat, period, and it was hit one hour and miss the next. One moment the streets are empty, and the next you are like WTF.
Thursday I came out about 9pm and nothing. I drive around for and hour or so, before I remember it was Task Force Thursday, and people knew it. Then I decided to take a drive down to Riches for a bit to eat, and who do I see coming out of Riches, but two young ladies I have been with a few times before. After a few word they told me to give them a call.
I did an of course they ran out of minutes and I couldn't reach them, even by text.
Friday, was better, because I started out with the young lady calling me earlier in the day to tell me what happened and if we can still get together. I only had about a two hour window to get to her place and hook up before the rest of her household came home. I made it there is 30mins, did a quickie for 25 and and back on my way.
After an hour I found Pokie and it was on again, so we went to her spot and of course she took 25 for H / H. I gave her a 3buck tip.
After stopping for drinks like a few beers with the fellas at a corner bar, I was at the car and a young ladies walked by and saw I was getting in the car and asked if I could give her a ride to Avondale, over by the Hospitals. I took one look at her and thought, "oh hell yea! "
As we drove and talked it was not hard to get to my favorite subject, and in fact she was posing it to me. Of course she was talking 40 buck for H / H, and I told her Oh No, but once we settled on 30 she was just as happy. She wanted to go to her place but we settled on a neutral place.
Saturday it started out poorly but again out of nowhere, I happened to drive pass the shell station and saw a seriously big butt girl in a shiny silver dress and heels. I did a quick circle and she was walking towards the club down on Walnut. Too slow!
Then as I was traveling down pass the Linn Street FireHouse, she was getting out of a car in front of Stanley Rowe Towers. This time I blow the horn, and she stopped. I made the circle and she came to the car. I told her I had seen her once in the car, and then it was on.
We did the check and sale, and wanted to go to a 10buck street place which I had been to before. We settled on 30 and she wasn't that happy but said it was hard finding someone who she felt safe enough with. She was a little tight for MONEY. Did H / H at the place and got a two double deuce beers from the house place. Once in the room she drink the beers smoked her joint and Screw. She let me get off twice. I did question it, but was happen she did. We used up an hour in the room.
I took her then to the W. See. . She got her food she paid for it, and I dropped her off where I found her.
Now about 2am while eating my food from Richie she and a friend walk into the lot walking to the back projects there. I horn they come over, and we talk. Ole silver heels was going to meet someone and the other girl was walking her there. I gave them a ride, and the girl told the other I was okay, and I then took her friend to the street spot and paid her 30 for the same. She had a cell but only took me number. She was a rather slim young girl with a tits bigger than her size should have with thicker leggz and a decent face.
This has been my Readers Digest version of my Good & Bad timing experience. I sounds good, but the time I had to put in to make it good to me was too much. It never use to be that way. Even during the lean times of the past it was better than now.
Oh by the way if you are looking for Skanks & Tranny then you are in luck for they were everywhere, and always on the move. Always!
The first thing was a request to be "friends." Hmmm. This hobby is not exactly open to wide-ranging social networking beyond the exchange of posts. It is surprising to me that Jackson is going the "facebook" route. My conservative self (not much there, I admit), urges go slow on this one. If Jackson explained the new feature, I missed it. An explanation might have made me less apprehensive. Still, my suggestion is to make face to face and increasingly personal contacts with other mongers only with VERY strictly limited conditions.
WHAT HAPPENED TO THE PHOTOGALLERY??? This has been one of my favorite features. Perhaps more poking around will turn it up, but I have not been able to find it after the changes at USASG.
The new look? I'll get used to it, but (again-the old fashioned curmudgeon in me) asks why fix something that was not broken. I am willing to be convinced, like. What are the advantages of the new look? Are there other new features (beyond establishment of "friends") which Jackson wanted to offer? Do we really want the world to know that we are on line at the present moment?
Mind you, I am still grateful for this board, and am still a happy member (especially because it helps my member to be happy, but sometimes increased features bring increased complexity, and increased vulnerability to probing by LE.
Just wondering.
Was enjoying my first cup of coffee this moring when I immediately recognized Megan's picture on my TV screen. Seems that she wanted LE to arrive quickly at the Interstate to a help with a customer who had received services, but did not pay. So to expedite their arrival she phones it in as a hostage at gunpoint situation. LE arrives and everyone gets busted. Nice to see someone following the rules of not paying up front, but you are supposed to pay afterward!
http://news.cincinnati.com/article/20101012/NEWS010701/310120014/Hooker-calls-police-to-get-john-to-pay
Ky Guy 123
10-12-10, 09:03
I looked up both lasses on the HCSO site, and I find it telling that neither was actually arrested FOR solicitation. The blonde was arrested for misuse of emergency services, and the brunette for theft. Theft is meatier than solicit so it makes sense of the one, but the other, if they were going to make a case I'd of thought they'd of gone for the solicit there. Ah well, something to keep an eye on though. .
Jay.
Was enjoying my first cup of coffee this moring when I immediately recognized Megan's picture on my TV screen. Seems that she wanted LE to arrive quickly at the Interstate to a help with a customer who had received services, but did not pay. So to expedite their arrival she phones it in as a hostage at gunpoint situation. LE arrives and everyone gets busted. Nice to see someone following the rules of not paying up front, but you are supposed to pay afterward!
http://news.cincinnati.com/article/20101012/NEWS010701/310120014/Hooker-calls-police-to-get-john-to-pay
Member #4523
10-12-10, 10:33
Last Friday I was cruising around some of the standard areas in Cincy and didn't see anything that was very tempting. I headed back to Kentucky planning to take a brief look around Covington before going home. Nothing much in Covington other than a heavy set blond I've seen several times before on Madison or Scott. I gave the blond a close look trying to decide whether to partake and just couldn't bring myself to give her a try.
So I'm thinking about giving up and heading home, but I knew this was my last chance to score before taking a week long trip to Dallas and decided to call the older BSW I have seen 3-4 times in Covington. (BTW, while I wouldn't be trying the SW scene in Dallas, I would be sampling one of the many AMPs there) I call, she answers, I ask if she's available, and she says she is in Cincinnati in a house near Montgomery Road. I ask if there is anyone else in the house and she says she is there alone and would love for me to come over. Since it is still early afternoon and I have nothing else to do, I head back to I-75 and head north.
I call her again when I cross the river and she says to get on I-71 and take the Montgomery Road exit. Now I don't know my way around Cincinnati all that well, but I DO know that there are two Montgomery exits off of I-71, so I ask her which Montgomery Road exit to take. She says the exit that says Dana / Montgomery Road is NOT the one to take, so I head up I-75, go past the Dana Road / Montgomery Road. Exit and continue north. I get off on that second Montgomery Road. Exit, pull into the nearby BP station and call her. She says she is within walking distance of the BP and I should just stay there at the BP until she gets there.
I wait a while, but she doesn't show, so I call again. She's at a BP station she says, but it is NOT the BP station I'm parked at and now I am really confused. She says she can see the street sign and knows that she is at a BP station on Montgomery Road. I pull back onto Montgomery Road figuring that she can't be that far away and if I stay on Montgomery Road I'm bound to see her. Right? Wrong. I drive and drive and drive, finally arriving at Symmes Township. I call her and tell her I where I am and ask her where in the hell SHE is. She finds someone nearby at the BP station who she puts on the phone to explain where the BP station is. Turns out it's in Norwood and I have to turn around and drive a LONG way back down Montgomery Road. And yes, I should have taken that first Montgomery Road exit after all.
When I get to the BP station where she waiting for me, it has been about an hour since my first phone call to her and I am no longer really in the mood to do anything with her. But I have invested all this time and gasoline and she has had to wait almost an hour at the BP station, so I pick her up and head to a little house where she has been staying that day. Again I ask if there will be anyone else there and she says, 'No, I'm there by myself this afternoon. '
We get to the house and I tell her that I need to use the bathroom. She says she needs to check and make sure it is clean and goes into the next room. In a minute she returns and leads me into the next room and points to an open door that is the bathroom.
As I stand there I cast my eyes around a dimly lit room with a bed against one wall. On the bed I see a person covered by a blanket. The person's head is not visible, but one foot is sticking out from under the blanket. It's a big foot. Or at least it is wearing a big boot. I'm thinking that attached to that big foot is probably the leg of a big man. I guess it could have been the foot of a big girl who likes to wear big work boots, but this doesn't seem likely.
What to do? I really have to pee and there's a bathroom right in front of me, so I go into the bathroom and pee. It's not a relaxed moment for me because I am acutely aware that someone could come in behind me at any moment. I'm listening for any sounds from the room behind me, but hear nothing. I zip up and go back into the room with the bed and the boot. The boot hasn't moved. I go through the door and back into the other room where the BSW is removing her shirt and preparing to engage me in a sensual embrace.
There is NO way I'm going to do anything with her in that house with some guy in the next room, so I pull a $20 bill out of my pocket and say, 'You told me there was no one else here. '
She says, 'Don't worry, it's OK, no problem. ' and reaches out for me. I tell her I am not comfortable in this situation and tuck the bill into her bra telling her I am paying her for her time. She says, 'No, no, I don't want you to have spent all this time for nothing. ' I tell her I'm leaving and I do. As I drive away, I see her standing there by the front door and I wave goodbye to her. She waves back. I start thinking about all those AMPs in Dallas.
Jay Malibu
10-12-10, 12:23
Was enjoying my first cup of coffee this moring when I immediately recognized Megan's picture on my TV screen. Seems that she wanted LE to arrive quickly at the Interstate to a help with a customer who had received services, but did not pay. So to expedite their arrival she phones it in as a hostage at gunpoint situation. LE arrives and everyone gets busted. Nice to see someone following the rules of not paying up front, but you are supposed to pay afterward!
http://news.cincinnati.com/article/20101012/NEWS010701/310120014/Hooker-calls-police-to-get-john-to-payDid you spit your coffee laughing?
Again, I say: Beautiful Story, Bill!
I am frequently in the Kenwood area where you first got off (no pun intended) on Montgomery Road. I did not think about the BP station situation until your story continued. There are actually two BP stations in Kenwood. One on the right side as you get off the Northbound exit (the one you probably stopped at) and if you turn left off that exit (heading toward Norwood) there is a second BP station at the corner of Kenwood and Montgomery about 1/2 mile away! I was dying laughing because I thought she was at the Kenwood / Montgomery BP and you were at the other, so close but yet so far. To add insult to injury, with a 50/50 chance you picked the wrong direction to head (away from Norwood and BOTH BP stations). And then, you through me for a complete loop when you said she was at the BP station in Norwood!! Too funny.
I'm guessing she doesn't know her way around Cincinnati too well either. There are several better ways to get to the BP station in Norwood than EITHER Montgomery Road exit. But, she must not have known that.
I am very sorry about your misadventure, of course. But, I thank you for the entertaining story. Since it hit so close to somewhere I frequent, it was too perfect not to enjoy. I do hope that Dallas did / does go better for you!
Be safe, be well.
JR.
Last Friday I was cruising around some of the standard areas in Cincy and didn't see anything that was very tempting. I headed back to Kentucky planning to take a brief look around Covington before going home. Nothing much in Covington other than a heavy set blond I've seen several times before on Madison or Scott. I gave the blond a close look trying to decide whether to partake and just couldn't bring myself to give her a try.
So I'm thinking about giving up and heading home, but I knew this was my last chance to score before taking a week long trip to Dallas and decided to call the older BSW I have seen 3-4 times in Covington. (BTW, while I wouldn't be trying the SW scene in Dallas, I would be sampling one of the many AMPs there) I call, she answers, I ask if she's available, and she says she is in Cincinnati in a house near Montgomery Road. I ask if there is anyone else in the house and she says she is there alone and would love for me to come over. Since it is still early afternoon and I have nothing else to do, I head back to I-75 and head north.
I call her again when I cross the river and she says to get on I-71 and take the Montgomery Road exit. Now I don't know my way around Cincinnati all that well, but I DO know that there are two Montgomery exits off of I-71, so I ask her which Montgomery Road exit to take. She says the exit that says Dana / Montgomery Road is NOT the one to take, so I head up I-75, go past the Dana Road / Montgomery Road. Exit and continue north. I get off on that second Montgomery Road. Exit, pull into the nearby BP station and call her. She says she is within walking distance of the BP and I should just stay there at the BP until she gets there.
I wait a while, but she doesn't show, so I call again. She's at a BP station she says, but it is NOT the BP station I'm parked at and now I am really confused. She says she can see the street sign and knows that she is at a BP station on Montgomery Road. I pull back onto Montgomery Road figuring that she can't be that far away and if I stay on Montgomery Road I'm bound to see her. Right? Wrong. I drive and drive and drive, finally arriving at Symmes Township. I call her and tell her I where I am and ask her where in the hell SHE is. She finds someone nearby at the BP station who she puts on the phone to explain where the BP station is. Turns out it's in Norwood and I have to turn around and drive a LONG way back down Montgomery Road. And yes, I should have taken that first Montgomery Road exit after all.
When I get to the BP station where she waiting for me, it has been about an hour since my first phone call to her and I am no longer really in the mood to do anything with her. But I have invested all this time and gasoline and she has had to wait almost an hour at the BP station, so I pick her up and head to a little house where she has been staying that day. Again I ask if there will be anyone else there and she says, 'No, I'm there by myself this afternoon. '
We get to the house and I tell her that I need to use the bathroom. She says she needs to check and make sure it is clean and goes into the next room. In a minute she returns and leads me into the next room and points to an open door that is the bathroom.
As I stand there I cast my eyes around a dimly lit room with a bed against one wall. On the bed I see a person covered by a blanket. The person's head is not visible, but one foot is sticking out from under the blanket. It's a big foot. Or at least it is wearing a big boot. I'm thinking that attached to that big foot is probably the leg of a big man. I guess it could have been the foot of a big girl who likes to wear big work boots, but this doesn't seem likely.
What to do? I really have to pee and there's a bathroom right in front of me, so I go into the bathroom and pee. It's not a relaxed moment for me because I am acutely aware that someone could come in behind me at any moment. I'm listening for any sounds from the room behind me, but hear nothing. I zip up and go back into the room with the bed and the boot. The boot hasn't moved. I go through the door and back into the other room where the BSW is removing her shirt and preparing to engage me in a sensual embrace.
There is NO way I'm going to do anything with her in that house with some guy in the next room, so I pull a $20 bill out of my pocket and say, 'You told me there was no one else here. '
She says, 'Don't worry, it's OK, no problem. ' and reaches out for me. I tell her I am not comfortable in this situation and tuck the bill into her bra telling her I am paying her for her time. She says, 'No, no, I don't want you to have spent all this time for nothing. ' I tell her I'm leaving and I do. As I drive away, I see her standing there by the front door and I wave goodbye to her. She waves back. I start thinking about all those AMPs in Dallas.
Was enjoying my first cup of coffee this moring when I immediately recognized Megan's picture on my TV screen. Seems that she wanted LE to arrive quickly at the Interstate to a help with a customer who had received services, but did not pay. So to expedite their arrival she phones it in as a hostage at gunpoint situation. LE arrives and everyone gets busted. Nice to see someone following the rules of not paying up front, but you are supposed to pay afterward!
http://news.cincinnati.com/article/20101012/NEWS010701/310120014/Hooker-calls-police-to-get-john-to-payHere is another link to the story:
http://www.wcpo.com/dpp/news/local_news/police%3A-hooker-called-us-to-help-collect-cash-from-her-john%2C-3-arrested-at-motel.
Megan and Donna are both now prime candidates for the "Hall Of Stupid".
I'm wondering about the guy. Was he in the room with them when Megan called the police? Or was he hanging around the notel? Maybe the police had to track him down. The story wasn't clear on the details.
What is interesting to note about what happen to the guy. He as not charged with any prostitution-related charges. He was found to have an open warrant for an OVI and was taken into custody.
So if a SW or an Escort tells police she had sex with a guy, police can't arrest the dude on her word. Interesting.
One thing about these two girls, Megan and Donna, are to be avoided. They will rat any guy out if they're pissed or even make a deal with the police to save their ass.
Here are the two SW's.
This one goes by the street name Secret. http://hamiltoncountyjails.info/?RID=1000033160
She also has a mother on the streets named Jammie. Has blonde hair and works with her daughter. She also can be a handful if you know what I mean.
The other SW. http://hamiltoncountyjails.info/?RID=1000033161
The Interstate motel has plenty of LE hanging out in the parking lot at times. This is a real HOT spot to take a chance on picking any girls up. My advice is stay clear.
Harpo2U.
The Interstate motel has plenty of LE hanging out in the parking lot at times. This is a real HOT spot to take a chance on picking any girls up. My advice is stay clear. I cannot agree with this enough. Not knowing who or what you will see pulling into Interstate's lot is crazy. (Have you ever had to sit out in a room afterward with LEO sitting in the lot? I would not like that one bit) LEO will put Interstate and other no-tells out of business sooner than later, but I guess the owners have to show cooperation OR ELSE. (A monger friend of mine was once tailed by police clear out of the area and downtown for simply turning around in the No-Tell driveway by Frisch's)
The entire area is just hot, crazy and undoubtedly under constant surveillance making an unobtrusive pickup impossible. Other board members & I have chatted about this privately recently as well.
If only the ladies would spreadout in their stroll. Herding like gazelles is only making LEO the Lion hungry for easy pickings. If you (mongers & SWs) don't make it so damned easy, they will loose interest quickly.
Haven't had any new info to report in a while, but met a WSW on the McMic stroll Sun evening named Tori. She appears to be on the short side and sports a short sort of butch looking hair style. On the initial pass I wasn't certain as to her reason for being on the street and the T-shirt with the large print anti drug slogan didn't help her cause. On my return pass I found her heading up the hilly side street so pulled over and she jumped in. Cute facial features and she looked / smelled clean.
I declined her offer of going to her nearby in-call and instead stuck with the intended car date. We ended up at one of my ususal spots for this area and settled in for the contracted for BBBJ. There was concern initially that perhaps she wasn't a good choice, but found that she was agreeable to following direction. Some adjustments to her technique were made which were found to my liking and in fact I finished much quicker than I would have liked.
On the drop I was teasing her about how her choice of shirts had orignially thrown me off. She looked at it and agreed that maybe she was going to change it before coming back out. She had with her a copy of Locked Up so we were discussing guests of the county. She says J-me is still visiting and I recall PPE#1 stating that she would probably be away for quite some time. Tori also used to room with one of my ATF's Natasha who has been MIA for a long time and according to her is also a county guest.
A friend saw "Snowflake" on McMick near Straight. Pale WSW in a sundress, pleasingly plump, young, long lt brown hair. Had a place for an extra $10, but nobody to let us in, waiting on a busy street (not cool. BBBJCIM in car was rushed, no playing with her nice rack, and demanded I keep a lookout and not watch her. She was tweaking I think. Then she wanted a ride 1/2 way across town. Looks 7, skills 5, attitude 2. And I never got the extra $10 back. Would not repeat.
Member #4523
10-19-10, 21:42
I noticed a couple of WSWs behind the Interstate Motel and then counted and additional 6 WSWs and 1 BSW by the time I got to the Imperial Theater. Even saw 2-3 in Covington. All of this was about 5:00 PM this afternoon. Maybe the soon to come cold weather has triggered more girls heading for the street? None of these ladies passed my increasingly stringent criteria for a scoop.
BTW, after several fellow forum members have warned about this, I have finally quit using the parking lot of the Interstate Motel as a place to turn into so that I can turn around and head back toward town on McMicken. That whole area around the Interstate Motel is too "hot" for that maneuver.
I made an interesting observation about two weeks ago. I saw a thin, blond WSW behind the Interstate Motel and the spotted her a block or so up McM a few minutes later when I had turned around and headed back toward town on McM. I stayed on McM into town and turned down Race to Liberty and then to Elm. Heading north on Elm I spot the same blond WSW (wearing a black, short-sleeve top and pink pants) getting out of a car and walking across the street to speak to another WSW. No one in the car, so she had driven there by herself. She must have left that spot back on McM within a minute or so of my seeing her in order to get to a car and get to Elm when she did. Just seemed real strange to me and maybe one of you experienced guys has a theory to explain it. LE?
Be careful out there gentlemen. I see that the HIV positive SW Jean Settles was arrested once again for soliciting after being tested positive for HIV. This is a young BSW by the way. Careful Bill, I know this is one of your preferences. If you see her avoid at all costs. As a matter of fact, I'm not sure if it isn't a good idea to let the police know in this case. Attempted murder?? F%#$ her. Here is a photo:
113377
Member #4523
10-20-10, 15:06
Be careful out there gentlemen. I see that the HIV positive SW Jean Settles was arrested once again for soliciting after being tested positive for HIV. This is a young BSW by the way. Careful Bill, I know this is one of your preferences. If you see her avoid at all costs. As a matter of fact, I'm not sure if it isn't a good idea to let the police know in this case. Attempted murder? F%$ her. Here is a photo:
113377Thanks for the useful intel! I don't recognize Ms. Settles, but I will surely keep an eye out for her.
But it looks like she's due out on Oct 27, barring a longer sentence from an upcoming court date. Either way, beware.How can they just let her ass out on the street? That's CRAZY.
Anyways, took a stroll tonight around to different spots and all I saw was the white tranny SW that normally walks W 8th St. Ughh. He thinks he's fooling someone? Otherwise streets were dead, as well as last night. I'll probably have to hook up with my regular pocket girl tomorrow.
BTW Warsaw and Glenway have / are adding cameras along the street. Seen one on the Elder side on a light post. Watch yourselves.
EDIT: Just saw this. Guess this is why: http://www.local12.com/news/local/story/Police-Bust-Dozens-of-Prostitution-Suspects/t_rfyOtKdEuIxirCHe719g.cspx
Member #4523
10-23-10, 20:28
I am planning on pulling back a bit from posting and cruising and will post an explanation for this decision shortly, but I want to re-post something that has appeared several times before in this forum. With so many newbies posting recently, it occurs to me that they may not be aware of the 13 additional rules Giani once posted to supplement the 22 rules that may be found through a link on USA Sex Guide's home page. So here they are:
1) Keep a separate "monger's wallet" with only as much $$ as you are willing to lose and a condom or two. Stash your actual wallet with credit cards, driver's license and extra cash in a separate hidden spot.
2) Be VERY cautious if the "SW" on the street looks TOO good I. E, usually they DON'T dress in stilettos, leopard prints, or other obvious hooker outfits. It smells of a sting or a TV.
3) Do not call attention to yourself by making a show out of the stop (no you-turns, no flagrant traffic moves. Pull off onto the next side street, turn off the engine, foot off the brakes. Let her come to you. Alternatively, go smoothly around the block, having caught her eye. Yes, do not pick up if a possible LE car is following you.
4) When you pull up, be willing to drive away immediately if your close-up impression of her through the window is not good. (Sores, too thin, wired, dirty & stinky, sullen or "dead" eyes? SWs are NEVER as good as your first impression driving by at a distance) Tell her you are sorry, you thought she was someone else.
5) If she passes first inspection, ask her if she needs a ride. She should immediately say "Yes" and hop right into the car. Under no circumstances negotiate through the window. The monger's acid test is that stinging decoys will NOT get into the car. (Caution: I have heard rumors that LE will blackmail SWs into serving as decoys who WILL get into the car. However, I do not have definitive data on this) If she insists on negotiating through the window, tell her you thought she was someone else, a friend, and split. Watch out for tailing LE.
6) Once she is in the car, *immediately* leave the "combat zone. " Mongers DO get stopped by LE because a recognized SW is in the car. The test: get a feel of her bare breasts to be SURE she isn't LE. She may grab your crotch to ensure that you aren't LE. Then get a crystal clear understanding of exactly what you want (covered or no, catch or no, swallow or no, FS (SHE should insist on covered, etc) and for exactly how much (plus tip if satisfied. Extensive bargaining is a warning flag of a troublesome SW, and another reason to turn her out.
7) Go to YOUR location unless she has a good reason not to. HER location may include a male friend of hers who will rip you off. If she refuses your spot, you have another reason to turn her out. For FS (do we have to say) ALWAYS cover up. If she offers barebacked FS, DO NOT GO THERE!
8) NEVER give up the $ before you are finished. You can pay a *small* token front, but NEVER the whole amount. This includes (as we have often been asked) request for front money so they can buy some "butter. " If she refuses, then again, tell her "thanks but no thanks. " Once she has your money, she is in control. Money in her hand may mean you will never get into their Bush.
9) The use of drugs is a problem, but try to read what it might be. Crack (butter) leaves them still cogent, able to reason, may make them even make more enthusiastic and not totally out of it, in the experience of many mongers. Crack creates a dependency, but not the kind of withdrawal that becomes a potentially violent emergency for them. Heroin (dog food) addiction on the other hand leads to dangerous situations. If they seem REALLY drugged up, you should not have let them in the car. The difficult truth is that the vast majority of SWs do so to support some habit.
10) Do not let outside people get involved. No answering doors, no second girls, no nothing. You are asking for serious problems.
11) If confronted with a dangerous situation, do not get hostile or seriously argumentative. Tempers flare quickly, to what extent, you may not want to learn. GIVE IT UP. After all, you stashed your wallet and extra $$ elsewhere, right?
12) If you ARE ripped off, publicize the hell out of it on this board with as much descriptive detail as you can. Educate the rest of us about what mistakes you would not make again. Give a detailed description of the SW, exactly where, when, how you connected. Got pictures?
13) Finally, try to get to know those SWs who ARE dependable. They can, and often are willing to advise you about dangerous, HIV positive or drugged out SWs. But remember however, even long-time dependable SWs should not have too much temptation placed in front of them-even they can "grab and run. "
Stay safe-even if the thrill of the hunt is part of the deal, stay safe.
Member #4523
10-23-10, 20:53
I had my 69th birthday not long ago and it led me to reflect on my participation in the 'hobby' and my posting on this forum. During the past 14 months I've had a few bad experiences, a few good ones, a few humorous ones, and I've posted about almost all of them in hopes of providing something of value for the members of this forum. I've gotten far more from the forum than I have contributed. I've gotten valuable intel, constructive criticism, and friendly advice from several of you and it was always appreciated.
Other than my age, which is definitely a factor, what are the other reasons I will be stepping back from cruising the streets? The main factor is the fear that my activities will be discovered by my wife! If I get caught in a sting or become the victim of a blackmail attempt or get caught in some other way, it could be a huge problem for me. Also, while some of you young bucks may enjoy "car dates, " they are rarely satisfying for me. And if I spring for a motel room, I may as well spend a bit more and get an escort.
One other reason for stepping back from cruising is that after about a year of looking for attractive, young BSWs, the worst possible thing happened. I found one. You may have read my post about Keisha, a 21 year old BSW I picked up on Elm. She was cute, fun to be around, and made me feel as though she enjoyed my company. She was the only SW I ever kissed in my 14 months of mongering and the only one I ever wanted to kiss. I saw her a couple of times and then she disappeared and there was never an answer when I called her cell. Listen, I know most of you reading this are thinking I'm an old fool to become infatuated with a young SW and you are absolutely correct! I realize that I am susceptible to getting emotionally involved with a SW and that is a recipe for disaster.
So my plan is to restrict my mongering to a few providers I have found over the past year who have proven themselves to be safe bets and for whom I have working digits. I'm sure I will still cruise the streets from time to time and I won't promise that I'll never pick up a stranger again, but it's really not likely that I will. I guess I'd have to pick up Keisha if I see her, but if that happens I may be lost.
Please don't interpret this post as an attempt to talk you out of the SW game. If you look at the pros and cons of using SWs and decide to go for it, I wish you the best of luck. If you do your homework by reading the forum, following the 22 rules and the 13 rules Giani provided (see my recent post # 1351) I am 99.9% certain that you will not get caught in a sting and will probably avoid most of the negative experiences that await less prepared, less educated mongers.
Finally, I'the like to take this opportunity to express my gratitude to several members of this forum. Giani has been friendly, helpful, and encouraging right from the start of my membership here. Mr. Boombastic has generously shared his extensive knowledge of BSWs and cruising areas and given me valuable advice all along the way. Harpo2u has sent me friendly advice via PMs that were packed with good intel. Getnati has shown his friendliness in several ways, all of which are very much appreciated. I don't know whether any of these guys is black or white and I don't know their ages, but I consider them my friends nevertheless.
So I'll be lurking more than posting and hoping that all of you stay safe out there.
What we have valued from your posts depends on the point on the time line:
1) Your early posts were so unexpectedly innocent, so honest, so "just what we remember from when we first mongered" Most of us would have been unwilling to acknowledge OUR newbie missteps. I remember that the subject line of one of my first responses to a confessional post of yours in which you described your less than satisfactory recent exploit was "Bill, Bill, Bill... "
2) Your honesty in painting the scenarios of your rides. Your (often naive) role in the drama was engaging and positive. This even in the face of occasional abuse by more experienced street-wise SWs you did not let it bring you down.
3) Your unstinting valuation of the human in the individual, even in the most jaded SW, and, even when in doubt, treating them as valued persons in our society who have had more than their share of harsh and abusive experiences. I know that even the SWs who took advantage of you are grateful that YOU were not an abuser.
4) Of late, your eloquence and deep thoughtful probing of your experiences on the street, and teaching, not only the newbies about the pitfalls, but us jaded veterans about the twists and turns of the 'hobby. " Not to mention how entertaining your descriptive prose is to us all. You have justifiably received many positive reviews of your recent posts.
5) Never were you abusive to other posters, even when they were hostile to you. You, the Budda of the board.
I understand the many factors in 'standing down. ' I suspect you will still take a look at the board periodically, and will be grateful for any pearls you might cast in our direction.
In friendship, Giani
What have we valued from your posts? It depends on the point on the time line:
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In friendship, GianiAll of us should strive to the standard of Bill Fanta.
You have many valid points and experiences that are more than worthy of making this decision of yours wise. Having a wife, girlfriend or family makes this hobby a game of Russian roulette. I myself don't have this issue to worry about, and probably would affect my decision to participate though, if I did. Your stories have been detailed and intriguing and are something we all looked forward to reading on this forum. Other posters, including myself, should strive to make our posts as detailed and adventurous as yours. My BBBJCIM last night was in dedication of your fine services provided to the forum. .
On another note, McMicken looks like it is a done deal for now. Saw on channel 5 news video that a 3 month sting operation led to swat team house raids and 18 arrests. That spot is TOO hot. I advise staying away. Walnut Hills and Reading Road down all the way to Reading has lots of potential and confirmed SW scores, as well as other areas around the city. Mcmicken was just an easy place to score with the drugged out SW's that were always working. Diamonds won't be found there, only old dirt. There have been plenty of other better looking girls around that are equally as hungry for the 'mula'. Hope we can get the ball rolling on some of these other stories without fear of LE gaining intel.
Rolled for quite a while tonight ping ponging between the Too Hot Zone and LPH. Saw Stephanie in her usual location in OTR but she has been a regular stop for me and I was up for something different. Otherwise not much to be seen but a couple of skanks so took a break at Richies.
A little off topic, but Richies on Linn St is a decent dinner stop for those that roll this area but have not tried it. I am a fan of their spicy chicken and the potato wedges are awesome too. The gauntlet of people you sometimes have to wade through getting from the car to the door might be intimidating for some, but they also have a drive thru. It was pretty dead tonight though with only one other customer waiting inside with me.
Refreshed I head back to the streets. Missed her once earlier, but when I rolled through the hot zone again about 30 minutes later I met Amber. Found her between Riddle and Straight, but says she usually can be found in the hottest part of the zone. She was by far the best I saw tonight. Dark hair, very clean, nice skin, cute face, fresh make-up, nicely dressed in jeans and a top that exposed a little cleavage along with a spider web tat, and a zippered hoodie over that. She wasn't really overweight, but had some meat on her bones. If she had any addictions there were no signs of it because she basically looked like the girl next door.
BBBJ service was decent, but have to warn you that during our negotiations found out she is a no CIM girl. I was okay this because it was late and I was otherwise pleased with my find. Service was not rushed, but once she sensed that I was getting close she paused and said "now remember to tell me when you're ready" and that fuckin jinxed it for me from there! Couldn't get to my final destination because I was too damn focused trying to recognize early warning signs so that I could give notice. Eventially asked her to use HJ to finish to avoid any possible issues.
She was talkative on the return trip and a wrong turn on my part left us with additional conversation time. She was very laid back and seemed really sincere telling me the story of getting up the guts to leave a bad situation that she had been in. I at least fell for it and sent her with an additional.05 on the drop. Asked if she had digits so that I could help her in the future, but she does not. I would repeat to try FS based on her overall attitude, looks and cleanliness, but otherwise the no CIM makes her a pass if only looking for the quick car date.
Rolled for quite a while tonight ping ponging between the Too Hot Zone and LPH. Saw Stephanie in her usual location in OTR but she has been a regular stop for me and I was up for something different. Otherwise not much to be seen but a couple of skanks so took a break at Richies.
A little off topic, but Richies on Linn St is a decent dinner stop for those that roll this area but have not tried it. I am a fan of their spicy chicken and the potato wedges are awesome too. The gauntlet of people you sometimes have to wade through getting from the car to the door might be intimidating for some, but they also have a drive thru. It was pretty dead tonight though with only one other customer waiting inside with me.
Refreshed I head back to the streets. Missed her once earlier, but when I rolled through the hot zone again about 30 minutes later I met Amber. Found her between Riddle and Straight, but says she usually can be found in the hottest part of the zone. She was by far the best I saw tonight. Dark hair, very clean, nice skin, cute face, fresh make-up, nicely dressed in jeans and a top that exposed a little cleavage along with a spider web tat, and a zippered hoodie over that. She wasn't really overweight, but had some meat on her bones. If she had any addictions there were no signs of it because she basically looked like the girl next door.
BBBJ service was decent, but have to warn you that during our negotiations found out she is a no CIM girl. I was okay this because it was late and I was otherwise pleased with my find. Service was not rushed, but once she sensed that I was getting close she paused and said "now remember to tell me when you're ready" and that fuckin jinxed it for me from there! Couldn't get to my final destination because I was too damn focused trying to recognize early warning signs so that I could give notice. Eventially asked her to use HJ to finish to avoid any possible issues.
She was talkative on the return trip and a wrong turn on my part left us with additional conversation time. She was very laid back and seemed really sincere telling me the story of getting up the guts to leave a bad situation that she had been in. I at least fell for it and sent her with an additional.05 on the drop. Asked if she had digits so that I could help her in the future, but she does not. I would repeat to try FS based on her overall attitude, looks and cleanliness, but otherwise the no CIM makes her a pass if only looking for the quick car date. I think I saw her last night on that corner. Wasn't there on the second pass later on. Always keep a bunch napkins in the armrest (Tell people it's in case a pop spills if they ask. Or paper towels somewhere. No CIM isn't a deal breaker for me, that is unless I get it all over my windshield, sunroof, console, steering wheel and seats Ha. That would be a sight to see if LE pulled you over and saw that: "Sir, would you mind telling me what that stuff is all over the inside of your car? Step out of the. Wait. On second thought, stay in the car"
Bill,
Thank you for everything you have offered here. I am not a purveyor of the SW trade and have not always read this thread. However, much of the reason that I started to read the SW Reports thread was your reports. I have enjoyed them greatly. I don't think I can put it any better than Giani, so I will just again say "THANK YOU"
Good luck, Be safe, Be well. Please come back and join us sometimes.
JR.
What we have valued from your posts depends on the point on the time line:
1) Your early posts were so unexpectedly innocent, so honest, so "just what we remember from when we first mongered" Most of us would have been unwilling to acknowledge OUR newbie missteps. I remember that the subject line of one of my first responses to a confessional post of yours in which you described your less than satisfactory recent exploit was "Bill, Bill, Bill. "
2) Your honesty in painting the scenarios of your rides. Your (often naive) role in the drama was engaging and positive. This even in the face of occasional abuse by more experienced street-wise SWs you did not let it bring you down.
3) Your unstinting valuation of the human in the individual, even in the most jaded SW, and, even when in doubt, treating them as valued persons in our society who have had more than their share of harsh and abusive experiences. I know that even the SWs who took advantage of you are grateful that YOU were not an abuser.
4) Of late, your eloquence and deep thoughtful probing of your experiences on the street, and teaching, not only the newbies about the pitfalls, but us jaded veterans about the twists and turns of the 'hobby. " Not to mention how entertaining your descriptive prose is to us all. You have justifiably received many positive reviews of your recent posts.
5) Never were you abusive to other posters, even when they were hostile to you. You, the Budda of the board.
I understand the many factors in 'standing down. ' I suspect you will still take a look at the board periodically, and will be grateful for any pearls you might cast in our direction.
In friendship, Giani
Marmon1913
10-26-10, 19:56
Be careful of the street walkers and the working girl house in camp Washington as a friend of mine who works out of district #5 Leo is watching everyday for the John's who try and pick them up. So be careful. He said that they have camera's setup to record what's going.
Be careful of the street walkers and the working girl house in camp Washington as a friend of mine who works out of district #5 Leo is watching everyday for the John's who try and pick them up. So be careful. He said that they have camera's setup to record what's going.Can you be any more specific on the location? PM if necessary, thanks.
Nkykinkyguy
10-27-10, 16:50
I know I am opening myself up for a little fun ridicule here but go ahead because I can take it.
I was in Covington the other night and was at the red light on the side street next to the Walgreen's on Madison Ave. Cute blonde white girl in shorts and a grey hoodie crosses the street in front of me and looks in the front window. I nod at her to acknowledge that I noticed her and she gives me THE LOOK and nods her head yes. I now know what the look is and it does trigger something in the brain and other areas LOL!
Now I am freaked out LOL. I am trying to remember the rules of mongering from this thread and I look in my side view mirror and she looks back at me twice and gives me the aren't you going to come scoop me look. Now I feel like an idiot because here I am with an easy first time pick up and I am too nervous to even remember the rules, the checks etc etc. I look in the mirror once more and she just shakes her head and walks on.
I thought about circling for the scoop but was too nervous and too uninformed on the rules to chance it. I was really kicking myself when I turned into the Walgreens parking lot and went in to make my purchase. Then I got a good dose of reality when I came back out and there was an occupied police cruiser parked right next to my car. I quit kicking my self and almost s*t myself thinking about the, what could have been. LOL!
I have said this before and I will say it again, I take my hat off to you guys. You have got BIG KAHUNA'S to do this on a regular basis and you have my utmost respect.
I am 99% sure she was legit, she was cute but not the TGTBT cute if you know what I mean and she was in transit. She wasn't just hanging on the street corner. I think she might have been a part timer or maybe a regular that wasn't hanging around due to the police presence.
I do see now why you do it though. It was an extreme adrenalin rush for sure and I didn't even come close to doing anything. I can imagine the rush at the time you go in to make the scoop and you roll that window down. Unreal, you guys are dare devils for sure.
Maybe one day I will prepare myself for this situation but I am glad I passed.
Good Luck and be Safe,
KG.
Jay Malibu
10-27-10, 17:00
Seriously. You don't hang around Covington often enough. Some are so brazen that they'll jump in your car at a slight glance when you're stopped. If your door is locked they'll knock on your window. You probably had a gal more opportunistic and not 'working'.
Be careful of the street walkers and the working girl house in camp Washington as a friend of mine who works out of district #5 Leo is watching everyday for the John's who try and pick them up. So be careful. He said that they have camera's setup to record what's going.I take it that's the house on McMicken? Not exactly Camp Washington, but close enough.
Nkykinkyguy
10-27-10, 21:10
Hey Jay,
You are correct I do not get to Covington or any of the other SW hot spots very often. This was just a happened to be in the area thing. I knew it was a hot spot from reading this thread. You may be right about the opportunistic aspect but she seemed well versered in the hobby. Very smooth and clear with her intentions. Even me as a SW novice picked it up easily.
Please forgive me if I am off base with this question but if Covington is such an easy pickings area why is there such a more intense focus on the Cincy hot spots? If LEO has such a strong presence there and Covington has them knocking on you window, why not just come to Covington and make the scoop there?
Like I said a novice / noobie / may never be here just inquiring is all.
KG.
Seriously. You don't hang around Covington often enough. Some are so brazen that they'll jump in your car at a slight glance when you're stopped. If your door is locked they'll knock on your window. You probably had a gal more opportunistic and not 'working'.
In actuality, I've never seen Covington have a lot of action at all. I've seen maybe a couple that were worthy over the years. Even said that, there still aren't that many out at all. I think you may have gotten lucky seeing this one.
I also want to touch the subject of the new cameras they are putting up in the city. You can find the story linked below. They have installed cameras in the city and OTR over 5 years ago, and are still up to this day. So why are they not using them? Money. The city lacks the funds to pay for the monitoring by LE. They have a little grant money to do it for awhile and then it goes bye bye. Right now they're active in East and West PH. Older cameras are in OTR. LE take a training course and can login via the internet.
http://www.local12.com/content/crimestoppers/story/Crime-Cameras-Go-Up-On-Citys-West-Side/J6_u54nn4EGpX0-iVP6Smg.cspx
Hey Jay,
You are correct I do not get to Covington or any of the other SW hot spots very often. This was just a happened to be in the area thing. I knew it was a hot spot from reading this thread. You may be right about the opportunistic aspect but she seemed well versered in the hobby. Very smooth and clear with her intentions. Even me as a SW novice picked it up easily.
Please forgive me if I am off base with this question but if Covington is such an easy pickings area why is there such a more intense focus on the Cincy hot spots? If LEO has such a strong presence there and Covington has them knocking on you window, why not just come to Covington and make the scoop there?
Like I said a novice / noobie / may never be here just inquiring is all.
KG.
Jay Malibu
10-29-10, 06:13
Hey Jay,
Please forgive me if I am off base with this question but if Covington is such an easy pickings area why is there such a more intense focus on the Cincy hot spots? If LEO has such a strong presence there and Covington has them knocking on you window, why not just come to Covington and make the scoop there?
I'm in Covington most days and have the opportunity to observe the activity often. I think Genati is right to some extent. I think the difference is that they tend move around a lot. Not frequenting the same streets / bus stops. I drove from Newport to I-75 last evening and saw two on my way through. I will also add that of the 15 or 20 that I would guess ply the streets of Covington, there have been only three or so that I would let in my car. Many just gross me out. At the beginning of September, I turned a corner and pulled into my parking spot in downtown Covington -- two that were sitting on a nearby bus stop bench came up to my car to ask me if I were lost. No, not lost but I'm not going to pick up at my office.
Nkykinkyguy
10-29-10, 08:23
That makes total sense to me. Thanks for the information Jay. I am maybe in Covington once a week tops. The only activity I have ever noticed is my most recent experience and the time I seen Summer (Formerly Summer and Stacey) and her new girl walking down Pike street. I didn't stop but since I know her well had no problem picking her out on the street.
I do think I will make more of an effort to ride through the hot spots in the future just to get in touch with how things work. Just like a junkie LOL! Going back for another rush LOL!
Thanks again,
KG.
I'm in Covington most days and have the opportunity to observe the activity often. I think Genati is right to some extent. I think the difference is that they tend move around a lot. Not frequenting the same streets / bus stops. I drove from Newport to I-75 last evening and saw two on my way through. I will also add that of the 15 or 20 that I would guess ply the streets of Covington, there have been only three or so that I would let in my car. Many just gross me out. At the beginning of September, I turned a corner and pulled into my parking spot in downtown Covington -- two that were sitting on a nearby bus stop bench came up to my car to ask me if I were lost. No, not lost but I'm not going to pick up at my office.
I do think I will make more of an effort to ride through the hot spots in the future just to get in touch with how things work. Just like a junkie LOL! Going back for another rush LOL!
KG. Personally, I think that's a great idea. I've done the routes countless times, even when I have no intention of making a stop. It keeps your mind and eyes fresh. And, yes, it can be a hell of a rush.
Law enforcement is cracking down on drunken drivers this holiday weekend with at least three checkpoints in Hamilton County and one in Butler County.
One will be held Friday night, operated by the Cincinnati Police Department and the Ohio State Highway Patrol. It will run from 8 pm to midnight on Central Parkway, near Marshall Avenue, along the border of Camp Washington and University Heights.
Tyson Phenix
10-30-10, 16:37
During the past couple weeks I dreamt of a few positive experiences. The first three weekends ago. I was cruising the normal routes and not seeing much out other than a few near the Imperial that I may have partaken in. However, I would never actually make a pick up near a busy intersection, and the ladies did not seem to want to leave the area. Therefore, I headed towards LPH, and did not see any on my first pass, but on my second pass I spotted 2 WSW. One I have never seen before, and circled around and went down a side street. She was so strung out that she walked right past me like she forgot why she came down the road. I figured it was for the best, and moved on. On approaching the next stop sign, the other WSW I saw was standing there and came up to my vehicle. She got in and we were off. Did the usual checks and found a nice place to park. She said her name was Big Baby, and we agreed to $$ for a BBBJ. She was not much to look at, as she was much larger than I would have preferred. However, she was very pleasant to talk to, and did a pretty decent job. I would repeat if I saw her again.
The following weekend I was out and about again. Run the normal routes, and spotted several WSW behind the Interstate, that I would rate at 6+. Once again, not a place that I would do a pickup, so I moved on. After a checking out the other spots, I made one more cruise down McM and did not see anything. I then stopped to get something to drink and take a leak at the White Castle and met a BSW who said her name was Juicy, even though a passerby said "Hi Krystal." She was not much to look at, but I had all but thrown in the towel, so I decided to offer her a ride. Did our checks and she continued to play with herself as we headed to a spot. Negotiated $$ for BBBJ with a.2 tip if it was good. Let me tell you, this was by far the best BBBJ I have ever had. When she causes your toes to curl, she definitely gets a tip.
This was the first time I have ever seen either of these girls, and would repeat with both of them. Sorry guys, no digits.
Tyson Phenix
10-30-10, 16:41
During the past couple weeks I dreamt of a few positive experiences. The first three weekends ago. I was cruising the normal routes and not seeing much out other than a few near the Imperial that I may have partaken in. However, I would never actually make a pick up near a busy intersection, and the ladies did not seem to want to leave the area. Therefore, I headed towards LPH, and did not see any on my first pass, but on my second pass I spotted 2 WSW. One I have never seen before, and circled around and went down a side street. She was so strung out that she walked right past me like she forgot why she came down the road. I figured it was for the best, and moved on. On approaching the next stop sign, the other WSW I saw was standing there and came up to my vehicle. She got in and we were off. Did the usual checks and found a nice place to park. She said her name was Big Baby, and we agreed to $$ for a BBBJ. She was not much to look at, as she was much larger than I would have preferred. However, she was very pleasant to talk to, and did a pretty decent job. I would repeat if I saw her again.
The following weekend I was out and about again. Run the normal routes, and spotted several WSW behind the Interstate, that I would rate at 6+. Once again, not a place that I would do a pickup, so I moved on. After a checking out the other spots, I made one more cruise down McM and did not see anything. I then stopped to get something to drink and take a leak at the White Castle and met a BSW who said her name was Juicy, even though a passerby said "Hi Krystal." She was not much to look at, but I had all but thrown in the towel, so I decided to offer her a ride. Did our checks and she continued to play with herself as we headed to a spot. Negotiated $$ for BBBJ with a.2 tip if it was good. Let me tell you, this was by far the best BBBJ I have ever had. When she causes your toes to curl, she definitely gets a tip.
This was the first time I have ever seen either of these girls, and would repeat with both of them. Sorry guys, no digits.
I take it that's the house on McMicken? Not exactly Camp Washington, but close enough.I don't do the SW thing, but I'm on that stretch a fair bit, and yeah, I can confirm that. There's a house, but the block is also swarming with LE and likely-ULE just about everytime. Avoid IMHO. Haven't seen a girl down there yet that'd be worth the risk, but again, SW's aren't my thing.
Tyson Phenix
10-31-10, 07:47
Dreamt I was cruising last night, and the pickings were once again slim with the exception of the T girls on Elm. I had actually given up and started to head home, but decided to make another pass. What can I say; I hate not being able to accomplish what I set out for. I know you other mongers can relate. Finally I spotted a WSW in LPH, and made the scoop. As we were driving out of the hot zone, she started in with a little hand play. Then after some negotiation, she slipped on a rubber and continued with a BJ. I was slighting shocked that a SW was carrying a condom, and claims she always practiced safe sex. The other thing I found odd, was that she seemed fairly intelligent, since she was able to carry on a decent conversation. Sorry I do not have a name or digits. She said she was 41, and was a brunette spinner. Overall, looks 5-6, Attitude 9, Skills 7. Total damage was a Jackson with.5 tip.
After I dropped her off, I made another pass in the OTR, and spotted several BSW on Findlay. Two were on opposite corners of Findlay and Central. As previously mentioned, the current amount of heat is pushing them to different areas.
Buster1335
11-03-10, 06:05
Hello all,
I just though you guys would get a kick out of this one. I was cruising around LPH one night and saw a very hot young brunette, I thought for certain she was civilian but she gave me the look and I about freaked with anxiousness. I turned around but missed her. Had to wave off a geeked out girl. Turned at the next block and the hottie jumped in. Said her name was Sarah and said she was 19. Very cute but very nervous did the checks and she was good. Thought we were being trailed so asked her about warrants she kinda got nervous but said no. She needed a ride to somewhere on my way so I was on my way anxious for her services. We did a little small talk and I was feeling those sweet thighs. I was stopped at a light when the car in front of me decided to back up and before I realized it the car was on top of my car! Sarah immediately got nervous and I asked her if she for sure didn't have any warrants she just nodded. Damn I though I am not going to get this hottie! I looked in my wallet only a 20 so I gave it to her. (I know I wasn't planning on the hunt but couldn't pass her up so I didn't have my folding money) She took off smoothly just saying she had to goto the bathroom. After exchanging information with the gentleman who jacked my front end up I realized Sarah couldn't have gotten too far. I turned and found her, she told me she had a solicitation bust and bailed on her halfway house. Ended up dropping her off where she needed to go and got a horrid BBBJ. Guess goes to show the look / skill ratio may just be true. Still situation was pretty funny now looking back on it and his insurance paid for the damages so all in all minus the poor BJ not as bad as results could have been!
Happy Hunting
Been too long since I've posted so thought I would share a little. Last night met the Def BSW that was talked about before, A little wierd at first but then relized she was def and remembering a post I had read from before about her. Had a good time with her H / H for.35 she has a great bumper for pounding. I don't usually pic up the BSW's because most of them look he / she. I have found a few gems this summer and have spent way to many hours cruzing but hey I'm a horny dude and like the hunt. Be safe guys and if it looks yummy, git some.
Was up in the Capitol earlier today and realized there LE activity is as bad as ours, Tucked my tail and ran south.
Tyson Phenix
11-07-10, 15:19
Was passing through OTR yesterday and spotted a very good looking BSW. She was slim, very light complected, and dressed nicely. She gave me the look with a nod as I drove by. My first thought was this has to be TGTBT. I wasn't in the area looking for a date, and only made one pass. I just wanted to see if anyone else saw her or even had a chance to meet her. It was around 3:30 in the afternoon. Just curious as I wish I had a chance to date her.
Tortellini
11-08-10, 11:58
Last week was up in Covington and met a nice girl on Russell and 5th. We chatted for a while, non SW and gave her a free ride. Continued my journey and met Stephanie at 7th and Madison. She was a red-head, cute and gave me a very good, deep BBBJCIM session. She also could deepthroat since she could take 90% of the anaconda.
Next, read all the posts and drove to Cincinnati Saw a very cute blonde in her sweats in McMick by Martin Lurther. Tried to pick her up but someone else swooped in. Definitely had a very tight body.
Finally wanted a BBBJCIM from my girl on Sunday yet did not want it in the mouth. If you love someone you will do anything for them. This is why I meet SW's since I do not get this at home and explained this. I need good statistical data regarding the percentage of women that give BBBJCIM.
NewJerseyG
11-09-10, 23:04
I was imagining tonight that around 6 I cruised down mcmicken from the Interstate Mo to Vine. Along the way I seen a few interesting things the first was a cracked out older black girl behind the interstate almost directly, she waved but ugly as sin. Second was a young black girl with glasses around 19 at oldest then crossing over toward elm seen a hot blonde, this girl was very cute and slinder. Now I did not stop as I am a little gun shy of the area and enjoy just window shopping. I have heard that there in the cincy area are alot of trannies around the elm area, I have never seen the trannies so am unsure where they congregate. I have nothing at all against transexual grrrls but the blonde looked a little to good and I figured maybe she had a suprise in her panties for any guy that stopped. Is it really true that elm is tranny town and if so where is the area to look out for. There seems to be quite a few out in the evening. Also imagined seeing 2 police cars around mohawk just sitting there on street eating donut. Mcmick seems to be hot right now and also anyone worry about stopping because of the number of drug boys working the corners in the area. Another observation was the interstate motel had no one period there, no one in parking lot looked like no rooms booked, nothing. With all the heat over the hostage faker girl (I honestly don't blame her since the guy took the fruit but didn't pay the toll) I think that place has serious heat on it.
NewJerseyG
11-09-10, 23:28
Do you ever get nervous about going to the hotels on central parkway. Met a phone girl who wanted me to come to the rest inn but the place looked creepy. If you pick up a SW are you willing to use the hotels on central if you want more than the car allows for? Also seen a hot blonde near elm street but think she might have been a trannie and not sure she had small b size tits and a nice ass, very hot body slinder and looked to come straight from the stripper pole. What areas do the tranny girls hang in on elm street this was at the corner a little past elm on mcmick, of course in my daydream.
I've been in a couple of the Central Pkwy hotels. They have been OK. I would never go in the Interstate Motel again though.
Most of the trannies I've seen, congregate near the playground / pool on lower McMik. There is a blond trannie down on Elm, but if you got within 50ft of "her", you should have known to stay away. There are several blond fems down there as well, but It's been a long time since I've seen anything of quality.
Upullandpay
11-10-10, 16:11
I had my 1st encounter with a SW. Picked her up on Vine by White Castles. Older not real attractive. Not what I expected. I was very nervous. I was 2 busy looking over my shoulder. Not sure I will do again.
Firehousemack
11-10-10, 16:42
Did everybody repent and reform like Bill?
Or is everybody afraid of Uncle Leo traceing our posts?
It was a very nice day this afternoon so I cruised the strolls on McMicken, LPH and Covington.
Providers seem to be coming back now that the election is over.
I saw a lot of old faces on McMicken including Deana. She's been on the street for at least 5 years that I know of. She's a hell of a suvivor but she's looking bad. There were 3 new fresh faces towards MLK nice looking, young but not my taste.
LPH had a couple but again a little thin for my taste.
In Covington I saw one tall blond near the drugstore on Madison. She was slender with sorta low hanging see-cups. I might have went for the scoop if there were fewer people on the street.
I did not partake today, maybe I'm getting more particular in my old age, but I thought everybody might like a fresh report.
Firehouse Mack
Saw a real gem out this afternoon / evening. On the verge of TGTBT, but looked legit to my eye. Alas, I had already contracted the services of Tina, WSW, mid 30's. Didn't have the time or energy to do a back to back, and I didn't feel comfortable approaching just to talk.
Anyway. Tina, definitely on the upper end of what I've seen out lately.
Attitude. 10.
Service. 8+
I could see myself spending a much larger block of time with her.
Been keeping to myself for the time being. Same old run-down SW's out and no new ones. The only thing I see has changed, is that Megan has died her hair brown now. Also, a lot of the trannies congregate on Lincoln Ave now along with a few ugly BSW's. Nothing worth touching in my book. I still recon, but don't participate. LPH has some newer faces, but haven't pulled the trigger yet. They get a little ugly once they get to your passenger window.
BTW Jalex, was Tina petite and possibly a mixed B&WSW?
GentlemanPerv
11-14-10, 14:28
I recently moved to one of the northern suburbs and have no intel about it. So I'll be happy for any info anyone can share about the Sharonville area.
What I *do* know is that my old haunts still work, when I have the time or interest to get down there.
A few weeks ago, we all had a good laugh at the SW who called the cops claiming to be held hostage by a john who would not pay her. The girl in the room with her, Donna, obviously isn't too smart but I can tell you she has a nice tight little body and gives great BBBJ.
For senior members only: I have two west side ladies <not connected> who do not walk the streets but are very much up for a pay for play good time. Email me for digits and names to drop. <and yes I will check your posts history to make sure you provide valid intel. LOL
Peace out!
Anyway. Tina, definitely on the upper end of what I've seen out lately.
Attitude. 10.
Service. 8+
I could see myself spending a much larger block of time with her.One of my favorites out there. Saw she was out yesterday.
I get some free time away, during hunting season of course. Anyone have any Casino reports or lucky leads? Sorry but I assume this is the closest thread to my spot.
Jay Malibu
11-16-10, 05:58
Covington has been void of any SW's for the last week. Must be too cold?
Firehousemack
11-17-10, 07:22
I was down in Covington yesterday afternoon and found a real diamond named Kelly. Blond. 5'5" slim, actually pretty.
I rolled past her 3 or 4 times but she never gave the look. I figured she must be on the stroll, why else would she stand in the rain on Madison. She was walking down a side street and looked like she was on her way home when I rolled up and stopped. She got in.
Her voice was very soft and she was very shy. When I asked to touch her breast, she removed her bulky jacket and suprised me with a set of 34D's to die for.
We negotiated a CBJ for a Jackson and performance was excellent. I've never nutted harder or faster in my life.
I asked for digits but she didn't have any. I left her off at an apartment building on Scott.
I'll be watching out for this one again and next time I'll get a room.
All my regulars were busy so I cruised covington. As previously noted steff is working the streets and when I caught up with her she had Summer (from Summer and stacy fame) working with her. Summer was still well kept and eager went to her hotel and had a great time. Sr pm me for location and #.
NewJerseyG
11-19-10, 23:58
Crusing near mcmick and find a cute white girl near interstate motel about 4 blocks down. Cute white girl named jessica. She was about 5' even white with long blonde hair. This girl looked like she might be a little cracked out and kind of stupid but sweet. Bought her a pack of cigs and a 40oz of beer took her to motel and enjoyed her. This girl was willing to do anything and everything as she seemed to need to make some $. She was willing to do backdoor fun and didn't last 3 minutes in her tight little starfish. She told me she used to be a UC student and lived near Uncle Woodys bar in Clifton. Very hot girl 5ft blonde about 25 or 27 yrs old. 34b breasts, her pussy seemed to have some miles on it but the butt was a new car. She didn't own phone and I think she might be a druggy girl. If seen she is for sure worth it, will let you do anything to her for 50 bones.
All my regulars were busy so I cruised covington. As previously noted steff is working the streets and when I caught up with her she had Summer (from Summer and stacy fame) working with her. Summer was still well kept and eager went to her hotel and had a great time. Sr pm me for location and #.I so loved this lady's performance. Would love to see her again. Wow.
Tyson Phenix
11-22-10, 17:39
I dreamt I was out strolling Saturday, early evening, without much luck. Checked out OTR, Covington, LPH and only saw four candidates, in which the only two were swooped up by fellow mongers before I could make the pickup. After several hours of bad luck, I gave up and headed home.
However, early Sunday morning I dreamt I was making the same stroll, and much to my surprise, I found a WSW named Misty south of the river. On first pass I thought she was a civilian, but thought she gave the look. After circling back, she indeed gave the look and I went in for the scoop. She was not in the usual hunting grounds, which was also surprising. After doing the checks, I agreed to go back to her place about 10 minutes away (I know, not smart). Started off with a massage, and a little dance, followed by a week HJ, and minimal BBBJ. Slipped on a cover, and went doggie, followed by mish. The whole time it was very rush and I kept being told to hurry up. In addition, this was the only two positions she would do, and playing with her chest was off limits. Finally, I had to manually finish myself. Overall, very poor experience, and would not repeat. Looks 8, attitude 2, skills 1. Seniors, PM for additional information.
Received some texts and a call from an old ATF of mine named Natasha (search this thread for prior reports and a pic). She has been MIA and the story is that she had to volunteer some time at a facility in central OH. Been having some difficulty connecting with her though which was also an issue in the past but my experiences with her were always highly favorable and outweighed any logistical issues encountered.
She has supposedly cleaned up but is obviously searching for some of that E-Z $ if she's seeking out an old contact like me. I'll remain persistent and if able to make a love connection will find out if she's interested in participating in the friends & family plan that we offer here. Stay tuned.
All my regulars were busy so I cruised covington. As previously noted steff is working the streets and when I caught up with her she had Summer (from Summer and stacy fame) working with her. Summer was still well kept and eager went to her hotel and had a great time. Sr pm me for location and #.I had been calling her cell, no response. I wandered what had happened to her. I even called Stacy, but she wouldn't really say much. Is she still close to her incall location in KY?
Ted
Mickeyman20
11-23-10, 00:42
Just joined this group. I am a born and bred Texan deep down at heart and seemed overwhelmed at the situation down here. It feels like I have stepped off the boat into a whole new world. Was wondering if anyone had some good intel on some BBW / SSBBW SW they know of. Any info would be highly appreciated!
Member #4215
11-23-10, 15:25
Why do people still search the streets when women like myself post on sites like here & CL. Searching the streets is very dangerous. But hey, Sounds like you know a lot about it & Where to look? Still could be an undercover out there. Their probably cheaper on the streets though huh? Considering they obviously cannot afford internet or phone for chat lines? LOL.
Responded via PM. Not a place for this.
Mickeyman20
11-24-10, 01:20
A. Thats rude.
B. Honestly I am looking for BBW's in general. Sadly your handle denotes that you are a BBW or SSBBW, if you hadn't been so pretentious you might have had some significant business your way. A pity.
You should just roll up your shingle now and slink away from this forum. Cost is one reason why folks might choose to monger. The exhilaration could be another. Either way it is just rude of you to question our motives. One might question why someone would want to visit you and point out your faults.
Rolled for a while late last night and eventually ran into Angie, blonde WSW, in LPH. She has other reviews in this thread so will not go into detail other than she still talks way too much and the service was good.
Of course, I couldn't resist one more lap through after we finished our business and wouldn't you know suddenly there were several interesting targets. These were all spotted in the 1:00 to 1:30am time range and want to know did anyone observe or have info on the following:
1) Cute, light skinned BSW, coat with fur lined hood, on Central near The Budget was causing rubbernecking and U-Turns as she wobbled in her high heels heading north toward the White Castle. Fairly confident that she was really a she and on my second pass a car headed south stopped in the road and was calling to her through the open window. Circled the block and she was gone.
2) Blonde WSW wearing pink track suit in the extreme hot zone of McMic & MLK. Looked young, cute, but was wearing the hood so I could be way off base on her looks. On the circle back she was no where to be seen and LEO had a traffic stop in progress in the location that I saw her so not certain if the events were connected or not.
3) WSW with sandy brown / blonde hair that I have seen on multi occaisions working McMic & Mohwk. Slightly bigger girl with cute face. Anyone with experience with her?
Mr Boombastic
11-26-10, 20:21
It is interesting that Ms. PSH, would make a statement about street action on this board. It certainly would not bring you customers in the way at least the way she posted it. My first response to her was going to be extremely critical, but I decided against it. New board, New Style Site, maybe a new Attitude, will work too.
Ms. PSH, there are several escort style street girls / women that work the street to keep a supply of clients they can pull from at any point. They don't hit the street on an everyday bases, and like to work more out of the neighborhood bars, and might get picked up walking from point "A-to-point-B", without being noticed by LE. They like to keep decently dressed, and you might find a few in highheels and a dress.
Many of these ladies like to deal with older men since they are more reliable, and easier to deal with. The Biggest deal with street escorts, is PRICE. Price is the key to it all. While you are charging 150-200, these women are charging 50-100 accordingly, and if you are a regular you can get a big discount, because she can rely on them and getting that income. Often these street escort are looking to supplement their income, and other than a lot of weed smoking they are not into drugs, street or prescription drugs.
Many time you have to deal with attitudes, privacy issues, sometimes kids & family members, and areas that are not in the best & safest of neighborhood. It is a throw of the dice, until you can get a little control over the situation, and bringing things around to the way they want it. Very few times does any one get ripped off, because the introduction of the police is very unwelcome, so these women avoid problems. They could have their kids taken away, or the State Welfare Agency in the middle of their lives.
There is so much more that can be said, because I learned a lot of what I know from a Senior Member who schooled me about it. So the Given, answer is PRICE, VALUE for your Dollars, Services Given, and a few added value driven things.
I can afford to pay $50buck, and if I did it several times a week I feel very good about the value for my money. Considering I am only going to be at their place for about 20-30 minutes I would say that is about how I want to play it. Sometime if we have a good person trust no one ever looks at the clock, and it could be longer, much longer.
So "PRICE" is the KEY, and Service, Attitude, Skill, and More are down the line but important too.
I was out yesterday late afternoon when it just got dark and spotted a WSW on Elm that I wasnt to sure about since I don't cruze this area much anymore only to give myself a laugh now and then, The girls in that area just too cracked out for me. Anyhow this Sarah girl I met was somewhat normal and a spinner at that, she says she only comes up from florence every now and then for some extra cash for her and her daughter, geee never heard that before. We went to a safe spot I know and had a great time for. 45, this girl was wild and seemed to enjoy herself too, says she is 1/2 Japanese +6 face +10 attitude +7 body she's a spinner no tits but a wild girl. Just sayin they are out there you just got to know what to look for.
Soo I totally agree with the Boom, you never know whats out there until you see for yourself. I personally have better times and spend way less on SW's, but I've been out there countless hours, So to each his own I guess. Play safe and be a gentleman, it pays.
Met a pt this morning. Not really what I was looking for, but pickings were slim.
Very slim BSW. Mid 30's.
Attitude 8.
Service 5.
Looks 6.
I have digits if you've given info before. I doubt that I'd use them myself.
Found Sarah in LPH in the early evening. I thought she was very cute in the face, slim with her long brown hair and spinner appeal, so I did a few laps and scooped her up. Turns out she's 19 too. Decided to try half and half. She didn't smell bad, but definitely not shower fresh the way I like. When the BBBJ started, it wasn'tt great, so I quickly proceeded to the FS portion. Well, after a quick list of "rules" she had, she only does the mish position and wouldn't allow deep penetration due to some medical condition. Also no kissing (not in the playbook anyways) , fingering (that either) or nut on the face (that I may have done). I quit after a handful of pumps and told her to just finish me off with a BBBJ which ended up turning into a HJ. Pitiful, and I don't recommend. As John Matarese puts it, "Don't waste your money".
Face & Body - 8
Teeth - 3
Nails - 3
Smell - 3
Attitude - 6
BBBJ Performance - 3
FS Performance - 1
I was turned on this provider by another SM here. She is better than a SW but priced very close to one. I don't want to give away too many details before I talk to my friend on here but she asked me to pass her info to trusted mongers so senior pm me if you are interested in someone who "get it". Given the fact that she isn't a true SW I'll also post this in the Escorts section for those who want to partake.
Found Sarah in LPH in the early evening. I thought she was very cute in the face, slim with her long brown hair and spinner appeal, so I did a few laps and scooped her up. Turns out she's 19 too. Decided to try half and half. She didn't smell bad, but definitely not shower fresh the way I like. When the BBBJ started, it wasn'tt great, so I quickly proceeded to the FS portion. Well, after a quick list of "rules" she had, she only does the mish position and wouldn't allow deep penetration due to some medical condition. Also no kissing (not in the playbook anyways) , fingering (that either) or nut on the face (that I may have done). I quit after a handful of pumps and told her to just finish me off with a BBBJ which ended up turning into a HJ. Pitiful, and I don't recommend. As John Matarese puts it,"Don't waste your money".
Face & Body. 8.
Teeth. 3.
Nails. 3.
Smell. 3.
Attitude. 6.
BBBJ Performance. 3.
FS Performance. 1I found her last night about the same time, wish I would had seen this post earlier. Well I got the same crappy service you did and I didn't even get to FS, I donated. 30 for a half assed BBBJ that ended self service just for some release. She wants $ up front so beware fella's. I know better than to give $ up front but I understand on there part sometimes getting ripped off too, This time I lost and after I donated she started with the rules aaaah crap here we go. She also seems to think she not your regular SW in that area she's much higher class LOL yeah right.
Had the chance to swing through Cinci and covington this week. Not much in cov happening. Saw quite a few on mckmick. Ended up scooping up Leah, good looking light brown haired 28 yr old WSW. Found her between marshall and riddle. When I was scooping her up I saw a very hot little BSW coming out of an apartment at the bottom of riddle on the south side of mckmick. We ended up going to a room on central for fun and games. Negotiated 70 for 2 nuts.
This chic looks very hot but upon close inspection you can see some street wear. She reminds me so much of that chic from sex and the city that I kept waiting to hear someone start reading an editorial in the background. She has a peirced clit and a very sexy snapper. Beautiful tight ass. Tits sag a little from to much weight loss but not to bad, I'd say small 'B' cup. Overall attitude was very good but somewhat controlling. Service was excellent but I thought a little mechanical. Overall a very good experience and I would repeat.
She started with some good BBBJ and we ended with mish. I ended up leaving her 60 for half and half and the room for the night (hoping she doesn't fuck me on that). Overall a little pricey but I was satisfied. I also got digits (seniors only) for future use and some pics. I was a little generous but the donation for car dates start around 30 for BJ and 40+ for FS. I'm sure on a rough night it could be had for 10 less, but service is good and she seemed trustworthy (as far as SW go).
I posted some pics of my StreetScort in the Escorts Thread post #2465 if you have any interest.
Same here. Ended up playing taxi service and putting up with a teenage nervous breakdown when she couldn't find her boyfriend. I know it looks good from the street, but skip it!
Found Sarah in LPH in the early evening. I thought she was very cute in the face, slim with her long brown hair and spinner appeal, so I did a few laps and scooped her up. Turns out she's 19 too. Decided to try half and half. She didn't smell bad, but definitely not shower fresh the way I like. When the BBBJ started, it wasn'tt great, so I quickly proceeded to the FS portion. Well, after a quick list of "rules" she had, she only does the mish position and wouldn't allow deep penetration due to some medical condition. Also no kissing (not in the playbook anyways) , fingering (that either) or nut on the face (that I may have done). I quit after a handful of pumps and told her to just finish me off with a BBBJ which ended up turning into a HJ. Pitiful, and I don't recommend. As John Matarese puts it,"Don't waste your money".
Face & Body. 8.
Teeth. 3.
Nails. 3.
Smell. 3.
Attitude. 6.
BBBJ Performance. 3.
FS Performance. 1
Upullandpay
12-07-10, 15:16
I went threw the drive-threw. Ordered a chicken sandwich combo. They had me pull up because it wasn't ready. As I sat in my van a young BSW? Was setting at the window at Wendy's by the pick up area. She started shacking her head up and down. I smiled and returned the nod. Pretty girl around 20. Received a BBBJ for $20. 00 If I had more time I would have got a room. She did not have a phone but said she hangs out there when $ gets tight This took me a little off guard. I wasn't on the prowl. Has anyone had an experience like that before?
Same here. Ended up playing taxi service and putting up with a teenage nervous breakdown when she couldn't find her boyfriend. I know it looks good from the street, but skip it!Here she is FYI:
http://hamiltoncountyjails.info/?RID=1000024391
Steve McQween
12-09-10, 14:19
I've been cruising LPH for a few days and haven't seen much.
I saw Sarah a couple times and was tempted but based on the feedback here I am glad I passed.
I have seen a pretty normal sized looking blonde with what looks like shoulder length curly hair and a tan fur lined coat walking just about every time I've gone thru there.
Any intel on this girl? Worth the swoop?
Thanks in advance
Search Sarah LPH on this thread. Not the recent teen, but the older posts, recently pregnant.
I've been cruising LPH for a few days and haven't seen much.
I saw Sarah a couple times and was tempted but based on the feedback here I am glad I passed.
I have seen a pretty normal sized looking blonde with what looks like shoulder length curly hair and a tan fur lined coat walking just about every time I've gone thru there.
Any intel on this girl? Worth the swoop?
Thanks in advance
Cruised Mcmicken and spotted what looked to be a 5 ft spinner near the warehouse looking apartments for gothish urban pioneers. She kind of looked like "phony robbery victim" Megan from the usual spot. When she approached the window I saw a cute young spinner type. I immediately said "let's go for a ride" and in she went. We checked each other's phone to make sure it wasn't on speaker. Police like to use this technique when making a deal. Originally she said her name was Amber which I was told later, it's actually Misty (Not to be mistaken as Motormouth Misty or the older Misty). Said she was 23 yrs old. We agree to 60 half&half and proceed to the spot. She gets undressed and proceeds to show me an open 4" pocket knife that she was putting away. She was telling me she was attacked two days ago and had to be careful. I nipped that incident in the bud. I checked out the view and we got to business. Her attitude is very non-emotional. She never smiles or laughs at anything. She has medium length brown hair and probably weighs 100 lbs tops. Tiny little thing. Skin looked good. She left her shirt on so I didn't get to see above the waist. The BJ was mediocre. She rode me for a little bit and then I finished her off doggie on the side of the bed. She gave me the digits and I dropped her off at the spot. Nothing real exciting.
Looks. 8.
Smell. 8.
BJ Performance. 5.
Intercourse Performance. 6.
Attitude. Not applicable (She had no emotional capability, but agreeable)
Safety Factor / Comfort Level. 2 (I knew the knife was a defense only tool, but still. Damn!)
Overall. Eh, maybe when you don't want to go home empty handed.
I've been cruising LPH for a few days and haven't seen much.
I saw Sarah a couple times and was tempted but based on the feedback here I am glad I passed.
I have seen a pretty normal sized looking blonde with what looks like shoulder length curly hair and a tan fur lined coat walking just about every time I've gone thru there.
Any intel on this girl? Worth the swoop?
Thanks in advanceI'm by there quite a lot and never seen what you're describing. Preggo Sarah has been inside for quite sometime now. You may have been seeing Angie or her daughter Misty Motormouth. Both are nice girls and work hard, but just have gotten "slightly" into the drug scene LOL. I don't think they wear coats though. Could be wrong.
This is some information that was presented to me from a very reliable source regarding the LEO budget cuts:
Vortex is being disbanded. If, you're not familiar with Vortex, they travel all around Cincinnati to hot spots and target prostitutes and drug dealing. Recently, they've been assigned to mainly stay in OTR for some reason. They are gone for good. The current officers have already been assigned to their new areas. As a matter of fact, I know some of them start them as early as next week. Another thing I've heard, is that the night shift vice team is gone as well.
Perhaps this means the selection and quality of the SW's will go back up, perhaps not but we can hope.
Not necessarily to make the best use of their resources, but because there is some community activist pressure behind the OTR crackdown. If they move Vortex out of OTR and shut down night vice, there probably will be a surge in activity, which could lead to more pressure from the community activists and allow them to lobby for a return of some of the funding.There will be some cut backs in CPD but don't think for a minute that LEO will leave OTR free and open like the old days! I suspect Vice will continue operations around the Findlay Market area because of businesses and all the rehab that's going on on Elm and Race Street. Also with future developments for the Casino and that damn Street Car project.
As far as the community activists in the Fairview area along McMicken from Ravine to MLK there WILL continue to be LEO watching and patrolling McMicken. It's a hot spot and CPD won't stop making Stings and arresting SWs.
I don't expect to see much changes in the usual hot spots in Cincinnati.
This past Spring from April to May there was several Stings and over 50 guys got caught according to Simon's arrest list. That's a lot of guys and a lot of money being paid to the courts. LEO will continue with Stings this coming year. They need the money and it's easy money and they get good headlines on the news. Makes it look like they're doing something big and important to protect civilians.
As of lately there has been less activity going on in the streets. OTR is mostly dead and at one time the corner of Vine & Findlay was a hub of SWs hanging out for pick-ups and now you don't see anyone at that corner. Of course there are some good days for the hunt in other areas in town but not like it was a couple of years ago.
BTW I had come across in my search of SWs in Simon's hotel and seen there are 3 "Escorts" busted all recently. I won't tell their names here but it looks like LEO is busy going after the BP girls just as much as with the SWs on McMicken. Charges of not only Soliciting but Prostitution (2907-25 ORCN) and for License of Massage (897-5 CMCN). Also charges on drugs just like the SWs! Very interesting.
Now a few of the regular SW's have told me some SWs are leaving town to live with family and get clean up. AJ is one of them and Brandy just left. They're burn out and can you blame them.
Will see if there is a surge of more or just a few new SWs but for now it's winter and less likely to see many till spring time.
Harpo.
Mr Boombastic
12-12-10, 23:14
I almost yelled out "Oh Hell NO. He Didn't pay a street SW $60 buck. Say it ain't so. I bet she would have taken 30, but now she knows she can get 60, and that killed it for everyone else with her. Man paying that and you are a Senior Member w / over 100 post of merit. When you do this the other naive member feel it is okay to pay the same or more.
I have heard "WordUp, Giani, Harpo, and More" post about paying more than 30bucks for any reason. Once we start paying more than word gets out and they will ask for more, and the service will never improve, but the pay will. I have seen several SW's out there who are more than happy with 30, and call me for more. I just found a SEXZ WSW, who is 25y / o who I meet at Findlay Market 2 weeks ago. I saw her talking to a BSW I have been with and one thing lead to another. Turns out she remembered me from a friend of hers I use to see that was a part-timer. Reliability means a lot to P / T SW's, because they need to know they can rely on you in a pinch.
You don't need a lecture from me. But I don't understand why "YOU" would give up 60, for any reason. Even 40buck is a bonanza on the streets.
Anyway. I guess you can pay what ever you can afford to, but everything has a standard, and it makes it much harder maintain a standard on the streets, especially in this economy.
New Subject:
Has any one caught up to the older Misty from NKy. I have been looking for her for a while, and have been just missing her by hours or days. She is a Ding-Bat, but I can deal with her even when she is drank or high. There was a thick WSW named Christy I liked to see, but she turned into a Drug Crazed Addict. She was wanting money up front to buy drugs for a fix, and was always in a drug induced mental fog. She was always just on the edge of being unmanageable. If you have info please PM me. No need to post the info unless that is what you want to do.
Lastly with all the bad weather, and snow, be certain to ask for digits, that work, because it will save a ton of money not having to drive around, and be certain to find out is your SW is Bi, because if she is then you can be set, for something good. And be certain to ask if she is willing for refer you to her friends, for service, which will help out your contact list, through the Cold Months.
BE BOLD ALWAYS ASK. ANY QUESTION. JUST USE unCOMMON SENSE!
Cruised Mcmicken and spotted what looked to be a 5 ft spinner near the warehouse looking apartments for gothish urban pioneers. She kind of looked like "phony robbery victim" Megan from the usual spot. When she approached the window I saw a cute young spinner type. I immediately said "let's go for a ride" and in she went. We checked each other's phone to make sure it wasn't on speaker. Police like to use this technique when making a deal. Originally she said her name was Amber which I was told later, it's actually Misty (Not to be mistaken as Motormouth Misty or the older Misty). Said she was 23 yrs old. We agree to 60 half&half and proceed to the spot. She gets undressed and proceeds to show me an open 4" pocket knife that she was putting away. She was telling me she was attacked two days ago and had to be careful. I nipped that incident in the bud. I checked out the view and we got to business. Her attitude is very non-emotional. She never smiles or laughs at anything. She has medium length brown hair and probably weighs 100 lbs tops. Tiny little thing. Skin looked good. She left her shirt on so I didn't get to see above the waist. The BJ was mediocre. She rode me for a little bit and then I finished her off doggie on the side of the bed. She gave me the digits and I dropped her off at the spot. Nothing real exciting.
Looks. 8.
Smell. 8.
BJ Performance. 5.
Intercourse Performance. 6.
Attitude. Not applicable (She had no emotional capability, but agreeable)
Safety Factor / Comfort Level. 2 (I knew the knife was a defense only tool, but still. Damn!)
Overall. Eh, maybe when you don't want to go home empty handed.
I almost yelled out "Oh Hell NO. He Didn't pay a street SW $60 buck. Say it ain't so. I bet she would have taken 30, but now she knows she can get 60, and that killed it for everyone else with her. Man paying that and you are a Senior Member w / over 100 post of merit. When you do this the other naive member feel it is okay to pay the same or more.
I have heard "WordUp, Giani, Harpo, and More" post about paying more than 30bucks for any reason. Once we start paying more than word gets out and they will ask for more, and the service will never improve, but the pay will. I have seen several SW's out there who are more than happy with 30, and call me for more. I just found a SEXZ WSW, who is 25y / o who I meet at Findlay Market 2 weeks ago. I saw her talking to a BSW I have been with and one thing lead to another. Turns out she remembered me from a friend of hers I use to see that was a part-timer. Reliability means a lot to P / T SW's, because they need to know they can rely on you in a pinch.
You don't need a lecture from me. But I don't understand why "YOU" would give up 60, for any reason. Even 40buck is a bonanza on the streets.
Anyway. I guess you can pay what ever you can afford to, but everything has a standard, and it makes it much harder maintain a standard on the streets, especially in this economy. Ah geez, did I mention currency in my post? Here we go. Let me explain before before everyone thinks I'm ruining the game! Would I give her. 60 again after my previous experience with her? No. Would I give. 40? Maybe. She didn't look like your average SW. She was young and so fresh and so clean looking. Although unfortunately her looks didn't match the service. There are a couple of factors that play out for me. First off, .02's are mostly what I carry. Yeah, yeah, yeah the mongers wallet. Sometimes, but it's just not convenient for myself. If I have the. 01's on me, I might negotiate a little more. I give a cute looking girl the benefit of the doubt on the first go around expecting better then normal service. Bargaining can also RUIN the experience in some cases. This economy isn't driving up the going rate for drug addicted SW's in Cincinnati and neither did my latest splurge. Trust me, if I didn't think I found a diamond, I wouldn't have offered that much. To prove my point, and free up the supply chain with this young lady, I'll make sure I go a second round with her soon and give no more than .3 to .4 tops.
Escorts have phones. Escorts have internet connections, email addys, and websites. There is an escort advertising thread found here and it makes sense to advertise here when a provider has the above mentioned tools.
SW's do not have phones, or if they do they are quickly lost or out of minutes. SW's are usually not concerned about data plans so they do not have internet access and websites. SW's are not going to post their hours of operation and at what intersection they can be found because they are highly unreliable and probably would not be found there anyhow. So why would you want to direct a SW to this forum? There are no good reasons unless you thrive on drama!
Interesting that some of you out there while making your acquaintence with a new girl are telling them "oh I know exactly who you are. Let me show you". Then you proceed to whip out your mobile device rather than your dick and you allow them to read posted reviews here. I do not see this as being a wise move.
The streets are a different game altogether. All SW's are going to have a list of cons / negatives and on a good night we can hopefully find one that can keep her A game shining JUST LONG ENOUGH or have enough positives to trump those cons to make it a decent experience. The streets are a segment of the hobby that when "negatives" do occur it is probably not due to a flawed perception of the event on the part of the monger. And the providers on the street are probably THE WORST at taking negative feedback when those cons spelled out in the review were actually true to life descriptions of the event.
Consider too that the language of the post itself may give way to the identifty of the monger. How would you like your next stop to turn hostile because of some straight forward talk that was aimed at fellow mongers was instead shared with the streets? Would you like things to turn physical just because you said someone smelled? Took change from your car without asking? Said they talked too much? Do you really want SW's with nothing to lose being able to tie you to your alias on this site? Would you want LE to tie you and your car back to your handle here?
Maybe more experienced members can point out the benefits of sharing this site with SW's, but I don't see them. One thing that I have noticed is that SW's tend to not change names and most times are using their real first names. Having that name and the descriptive detail of the posts found here are often the only thing that quickly allows you to size up your date and whether you can tollerate the negatives mentioned or whether you are going to cut her loose saying that you "thought she was someone else". All the detail that I leave (negatives and all) is to help YOU make your decision, but if that info is going to be misused then maybe I will not be so willing to share in the public forum any longer and will go underground to do all of my sharing. Just give some thought to what you are doing out there because maybe your first instict is not the best choice.
Good points there Cee. Thanks.
I had the opportunity to hook up with "misty" too. She acted a bit nervous when she first got into my car. After the car ride to the motel she actually showed a very cute personality. Cute face, and hot little body. She really didn't get into the sex that much and kind of ruined the BBBJ with all of the gagging she was doing. I didn't get her number, but I'm sure when the weather gets warmer she will be out on the street again.
I almost yelled out "Oh Hell NO. He Didn't pay a street SW $60 buck. Say it ain't so. I bet she would have taken 30, but now she knows she can get 60, and that killed it for everyone else with her. Man paying that and you are a Senior Member w / over 100 post of merit. When you do this the other naive member feel it is okay to pay the same or more.
I have heard "WordUp, Giani, Harpo, and More" post about paying more than 30bucks for any reason. Once we start paying more than word gets out and they will ask for more, and the service will never improve, but the pay will. I have seen several SW's out there who are more than happy with 30, and call me for more. I just found a SEXZ WSW, who is 25y / o who I meet at Findlay Market 2 weeks ago. I saw her talking to a BSW I have been with and one thing lead to another. Turns out she remembered me from a friend of hers I use to see that was a part-timer. Reliability means a lot to P / T SW's, because they need to know they can rely on you in a pinch.
You don't need a lecture from me. But I don't understand why "YOU" would give up 60, for any reason. Even 40buck is a bonanza on the streets.
Anyway. I guess you can pay what ever you can afford to, but everything has a standard, and it makes it much harder maintain a standard on the streets, especially in this economy.
New Subject:
Has any one caught up to the older Misty from NKy. I have been looking for her for a while, and have been just missing her by hours or days. She is a Ding-Bat, but I can deal with her even when she is drank or high. There was a thick WSW named Christy I liked to see, but she turned into a Drug Crazed Addict. She was wanting money up front to buy drugs for a fix, and was always in a drug induced mental fog. She was always just on the edge of being unmanageable. If you have info please PM me. No need to post the info unless that is what you want to do.
Lastly with all the bad weather, and snow, be certain to ask for digits, that work, because it will save a ton of money not having to drive around, and be certain to find out is your SW is Bi, because if she is then you can be set, for something good. And be certain to ask if she is willing for refer you to her friends, for service, which will help out your contact list, through the Cold Months.
BE BOLD ALWAYS ASK. ANY QUESTION. JUST USE unCOMMON SENSE!
Upullandpay
12-16-10, 10:07
Meet a Girl named Amanda / Daisey in Covington Young and cute! It was very cold out when I picked her up. Took her about 30 min to get warm enough to do anything. Gave a BJ / HJ about a 4 on a scale from 1 to 10. I want to give her the benefit of a doubt because it was so cold. About 12 deg outside Will try again,
I am a new member here. I am pleased that I have found this forum. I have picked up a few SW's on McMicken. However, after reading some of the posts her, I am probably lucky that they were truly SW's. What are the some the rules and checks that I should be doing? I know obviously to never talk through the window. I have had a couple of girls give their numbers, but I was so nervous and afraid I have since lost them. The only things I have done are car dates. I have had BBBJCIM and bbbjcimws. I have not done anything else. I have read a few peole go to the hotels; is that worth the extra cost and what I would assume is a reduced risk of getting caught?
Any help or suggestions are appreaciated.
Be careful downtown. Tons of activity around the theater. Saw some people being surrounded by tons of cars today.
Meet a Girl named Amanda / Daisey in Covington Young and cute! It was very cold out when I picked her up. Took her about 30 min to get warm enough to do anything. Gave a BJ / HJ about a 4 on a scale from 1 to 10. I want to give her the benefit of a doubt because it was so cold. About 12 deg outside Will try again,Don't waste your time, IMO. 4/10 is just about right.
I'm curious what you other experiences have been like, because Daisy isn't all that young (about 30) , and definitely not worthy of a "cute!". There are MUCH better options out there, even on the streets.
Don't waste your time, IMO. 4/10 is just about right.
I'm curious what you other experiences have been like, because Daisy isn't all that young (about 30) , and definitely not worthy of a "cute!". There are MUCH better options out there, even on the streets. Thanks for clearing that up Jalex! My opinion of young and cute is Champagne, whom Supereloquent has been posting pics of in the photo gallery. Now that my friends is smoking!
Mr Boombastic
12-18-10, 16:14
Even more reason why 60 was too much. She wasn't even worth the money to begin with, man that is crazy. This is not going to kill the market out there, but it is a start in the wrong direction. I have SW, friend who talk about getting the Foolish Johns to pay more, for a lot less. They see it as a game, and see the men as push overs even if they really aren't. Once they peg you at being one, they will treat you with less respect, and still want respect to them from you. They know you are thinking with your balls, and not you thinking head.
EveryOne. And I mean everyone learns that early lesson. A few of us learn it from others, but we all learn it in some way. So knowing how to play the game is just that. Knowing how to play the game. And with a pocket ful of 20s you still could have only even her 40 not 60, especially for not getting exceptional service.
At this point the issue is over, and what is done is done. It where happens in the future that counts, or what others can learn from. This is a lesson to learn for everyone. Keep small bills in your pockets, and if you stop at the ATM, go to the corner store, and break a few 20's. Stop at Alabama's and get a fish dinner or even at Riches, but keep several 10s. 5s. 1s. Good to pay a tip to help the cause.
I have found some diamonds, but I don't get the lack of cell phone time. I even have a few that refuse to get a cell phone, and several that have a phone plan and minutes will bug the hell out of you about getting together. I even had one call my throw down phone at 5am wanting a date and wanted me to pick her up in NKy for a date in Cincy according to her voice mssg. I had to put her in check, QUICKLY!
IT IS IMPORTANT TO MAKE CERTAIN. That you apply the techniques and information posted in all the reports. It is a lot to read, and it will take some time, but it is will worth the effort. And read the Archives too, they have answers to questions most FAQ.
Lastly don't think this is some type of get on Getnati post. This is more to alert others that you don't have to pay more than 30 at anytime to get very good service from 90-95% of the SW's out there. If you pay 40 for any reason then you better be making some Big Azz Demands are made for that extra 10. But still don't pay 40. The going rate is 25 including tip, if she is good. But most will accept 20 with a smile.
They expect you want something big for your money. Make certain you get it. They need you really more than you need them so act like it. There are more men willing to pay than there are decent SW's, but to play with. So don't get it twisted, as long as you have the MONEY, You Have the POWER.
Ah geez, did I mention currency in my post? Here we go. Let me explain before before everyone thinks I'm ruining the game! Would I give her. 60 again after my previous experience with her? No. Would I give. 40? Maybe. She didn't look like your average SW. She was young and so fresh and so clean looking. Although unfortunately her looks didn't match the service. There are a couple of factors that play out for me. First off, .02's are mostly what I carry. Yeah, yeah, yeah the mongers wallet. Sometimes, but it's just not convenient for myself. If I have the. 01's on me, I might negotiate a little more. I give a cute looking girl the benefit of the doubt on the first go around expecting better then normal service. Bargaining can also RUIN the experience in some cases. This economy isn't driving up the going rate for drug addicted SW's in Cincinnati and neither did my latest splurge. Trust me, if I didn't think I found a diamond, I wouldn't have offered that much. To prove my point, and free up the supply chain with this young lady, I'll make sure I go a second round with her soon and give no more than .3 to .4 tops.
Tooling around yesterday, (did not have time to sample the wares) , things looked better on the cruise, to an extent.
On Elm near Henry (yes, one of the hottest spots in former days, I felt like I was in a time machine) , there were *TWO* SWs: one tall with long blonde hair in a light jacket, and one medium height, with a dark hoody. The hoody-girl looked really good, pleasant smile, bright eyes, as she waived. Could not stop, though I wanted to.
At the end of McM nr MLK, another SW, smoking a cig at the bus stop. At first I was not sure she was working. She looked a little POed, but worthy of exploration. Dark haired, with only a light sweatshirt, I am pretty sure she was working (she gave me half the look, but unenthusiastic). She had opportunity to walk up to the car, but did not make an obvious move. She looked inviting enough, but not nearly as much as the hoody-girl.
Returning to the East, passed the corner of Elm and McM (again--felt like old times--OTR has been SO dry lately), and there was the same long haired blonde, waiving and smiling. She looked better on the second pass (that seldom happens) , but again, the time was not right.
If anyone has had experience with any of these three probable providers, we would all be grateful. Describe the SW with as much detail as you dare. The bottom line is that none of these were 'discards.' All worthy of exploration.
My shy friend said he is going to send me a description of a positive experience of a week or so ago with an Angel. When he gets it together, will post it for him.
Still-be VERY careful out there, know the rules (the video posted recently of how to recognize an LE sting was right on (sorry I don't remember who posted it).
I expect that these observations are not news to LE. Do you have observations which LE probably knows, but which readers of the board might not? I hope the board comes back to life soon.
Giani
I am a new member here. I am pleased that I have found this forum. I have picked up a few SW's on McMicken. However, after reading some of the posts her, I am probably lucky that they were truly SW's. What are the some the rules and checks that I should be doing? I know obviously to never talk through the window. I have had a couple of girls give their numbers, but I was so nervous and afraid I have since lost them. The only things I have done are car dates. I have had BBBJCIM and bbbjcimws. I have not done anything else. I have read a few peole go to the hotels; is that worth the extra cost and what I would assume is a reduced risk of getting caught?
Any help or suggestions are appreaciated. Jdiegs, Jackson has 22 Rules for Street Mongering. This is our Bible. The site is currently undergoing a software upgrade and unfortunately the list is not currently posted on the Home page. So Jdiegs, for you, here they are. Read and follow every one without exception.
22 Rules for Street Mongering
1. IS SHE WORKING?. It ain't like in the movies.They wear ordinary clothes, and are just walking alone, with no bags, or maybe making a phone call at a pay phone (but if you checked, there's no one on the line). Believe it or not, a girl walking alone and without shopping bags on a hobbyist street is almost always a SW.
2. If you aren't sure, come back in a few minutes. Non-pros who happen to be walking are going somewhere, which isn't up and down the same stretch of road. And on hobbyist streets, the local women tend to avoid looking like they might be in business, unless they are!
3. If she is watching traffic, she's probably a SW.
4. If she makes eye contact with you, she's probably a SW.
5. If she then smiles at you, she is a SW. After all, you're just some dude driving by.
6. If she's with a "boyfriend", who disappears when you come around again, he's pimping her. Be careful! Don't unlock the door until she's ready to get in, with him nowhere to be seen! If you follow these rules, you're in control of the situation.
7. MAKING THE PICKUP. Pull over at the next parking lot, or around the next corner and park nearby. If you're sure she saw you. Smile back at her, dummy!. Then feel free to pull further down the block, so it's not so easily observed by LE. She'll casually turn down your block, walk past. And then suddenly walk up to see if you're letting her in. Keep eye contact, keep smiling. Invite her in.
8. Lock the other doors! You're in a crime-filled neighborhood!
9. AVOIDING LE STINGS. Do not EVER EVER EVER discuss anything with a girl who isn't seated in your car, except to offer her a ride. THAT'S ALL YOU'RE DOING! IT'S LEGAL! Just being a nice guy. On every board I've seen, LE always tries to make the bust without the F LE risking her ass by getting in. READ THIS RULE AGAIN! IT'S IMPORTANT!
10. This is the perfect time for LE to pull you over for rolling through a stop sign, just to harass your ass. Drive like a preacher! It's an effective way of intimidating we hobbyists, and they'll use any opportunity if they're watching.
11. Make a turn or two before discussing $$, just in case. Watch your rear view. You can bet she will, too! I've never heard of LE getting in the car, with a follower, but better safe than sorry. A known LE trick. She doesn't get in, but directs you to meet her around the corner. Guess who's waiting there, instead of her? If she doesn't get in right away, move on!
12. AVOIDING SCAMS. If you do a car date, and you let her pick the spot (she'll try to direct you) , be aware that she may be setting you up for a robbery. Don't settle for her spot. Or at least, force her to come up with a second choice. Her boyfriend can't be in two places at once.
13. If you go back to a hotel, and she picked it, be aware that this could be a setup for cash&dash, or her pimp busting in & robbing you.
14. If you go back to her place. Are you mad? The "boyfriend busting in mad, waving a gun" scam probably happens a lot. Since the victims won't report the robbery, they get by with it, even though the victims know where the robbers are staying!
15. If you go back to your hotel, um, have fun! (OK, that's not a rule. If you go back to your hotel, be discreet so the mgmt doesn't call LE on you.)
16. If you go back to your house. Are you really ok with a potentially-addicted SW knowing where you live?
17. YOUR WALLET. Do not leave your wallet within her reach. If you think you know a clever spot to hide it, remember that 100's of others have thought of it, too. While you're distracted, her free hand can be working.
18. YOUR MONEY. Do not have more in your pocket than you want to spend. She (and your dick) will talk it out of you. If she's really worth an extra few dollars, you can go get it (out of the trunk, the ATM, your other pocket, whatever). Current street rates are 20 for BJ. 40-50 for FS, and you can tip later if you think it's worth it. Remember, it isn't worth it just because you came. She'll always demand a tip, if she thinks it's coming. Many will claim they "usually charge more". The word on this board is: they don't. But, hey, some of these girls are hard-working, quality-driven providers, even though they're SW (really. I mean it!) , and they deserve a break.
19. HUNTING HOURS. They're out at all times, in most weather. I've heard of them walking as early as 4:30am, and well past midnight. They work the lunch hours for guys on lunch, afternoons for guys on early shifts, mornings for guys who'll be late for work, and all through the evening and night. If it's lightly raining, there will be less, but there will be some. Most of these girls are drug addicts; their addiction doesn't have a "M-F, excluding legal holidays" schedule.
20. CFS! Carry a condom. Usually, they don't have one (which I think is so fuc*ing stupid, but then, if they had a clue they wouldn't be SW-ing). You don't want to be tempted to skip the cover because that pussy is so fine.
And the freebie: Every time some SW claims "I'm the best! I'm worth more", it really means,"I'm a lame-ass lying lazy talent less junkie!" The good ones don't have to brag; they'll get your return business.
21. Don't let her use your cellphone. It's a very common request. She'll call her friend, or her own phone, and that will give her access to your #. Which might set you up for unexpected & inopportune calls for business or bail money.
22. Be friendly. As has been noted in other threads, these are people with feelings, not just automaton sex dispensers. If you're friendly, chatty, and warm, she'll open up, relax, and probably be more generous with her service, in all the little ways that matter most. Remember, if she's never hooked up with you before, she's worried that you might be either LE, or some psycho SW-stalker.
As always Play Safe
Upullandpay
12-19-10, 13:44
Don't waste your time, IMO. 4/10 is just about right.
I'm curious what you other experiences have been like, because Daisy isn't all that young (about 30) , and definitely not worthy of a "cute!". There are MUCH better options out there, even on the streets. Not that much, Only 2 other SW and they were both in there 30s. I felt Daisy was around the 25 year old range, I am in my 50s so that is young to me. I have only seen 1 Escort in this area and that's Candy. A Red head I seen about 1 year ago. Talked to her lately but she is Pregnant and not real active right now.
Golfcart:
Thank you very much for the reply. As I have said in my previous post; the hotspot I have always hit up is McMicken. I know several have talked about Covington. Are there any other big spots? Is there any spots towards Colerain or Oxford that anyone is aware of?
Jdiegs, Jackson has 22 Rules for Street Mongering. This is our Bible. The site is currently undergoing a software upgrade and unfortunately the list is not currently posted on the Home page. So Jdiegs, for you, here they are. Read and follow every one without exception.
22 Rules for Street Mongering
1. IS SHE WORKING. It ain't like in the movies. They wear ordinary clothes, and are just walking alone, with no bags, or maybe making a phone call at a pay phone (but if you checked, there's no one on the line). Believe it or not, a girl walking alone and without shopping bags on a hobbyist street is almost always a SW.
2. If you aren't sure, come back in a few minutes. Non-pros who happen to be walking are going somewhere, which isn't up and down the same stretch of road. And on hobbyist streets, the local women tend to avoid looking like they might be in business, unless they are!
3. If she is watching traffic, she's probably a SW.
4. If she makes eye contact with you, she's probably a SW.
5. If she then smiles at you, she is a SW. After all, you're just some dude driving by.
6. If she's with a "boyfriend", who disappears when you come around again, he's pimping her. Be careful! Don't unlock the door until she's ready to get in, with him nowhere to be seen! If you follow these rules, you're in control of the situation.
7. MAKING THE PICKUP. Pull over at the next parking lot, or around the next corner and park nearby. If you're sure she saw you. Smile back at her, dummy. Then feel free to pull further down the block, so it's not so easily observed by LE. She'll casually turn down your block, walk past. And then suddenly walk up to see if you're letting her in. Keep eye contact, keep smiling. Invite her in.
8. Lock the other doors! You're in a crime-filled neighborhood!
9. AVOIDING LE STINGS. Do not EVER EVER EVER discuss anything with a girl who isn't seated in your car, except to offer her a ride. THAT'S ALL YOU'RE DOING! IT'S LEGAL! Just being a nice guy. On every board I've seen, LE always tries to make the bust without the F LE risking her ass by getting in. READ THIS RULE AGAIN! IT'S IMPORTANT!
10. This is the perfect time for LE to pull you over for rolling through a stop sign, just to harass your ass. Drive like a preacher! It's an effective way of intimidating we hobbyists, and they'll use any opportunity if they're watching.
11. Make a turn or two before discussing $$, just in case. Watch your rear view. You can bet she will, too! I've never heard of LE getting in the car, with a follower, but better safe than sorry. A known LE trick. She doesn't get in, but directs you to meet her around the corner. Guess who's waiting there, instead of her? If she doesn't get in right away, move on!
12. AVOIDING SCAMS. If you do a car date, and you let her pick the spot (she'll try to direct you) , be aware that she may be setting you up for a robbery. Don't settle for her spot. Or at least, force her to come up with a second choice. Her boyfriend can't be in two places at once.
13. If you go back to a hotel, and she picked it, be aware that this could be a setup for cash&dash, or her pimp busting in & robbing you.
14. If you go back to her place. Are you mad? The "boyfriend busting in mad, waving a gun" scam probably happens a lot. Since the victims won't report the robbery, they get by with it, even though the victims know where the robbers are staying!
15. If you go back to your hotel, um, have fun! (OK, that's not a rule. If you go back to your hotel, be discreet so the mgmt doesn't call LE on you.)
16. If you go back to your house. Are you really ok with a potentially-addicted SW knowing where you live?
17. YOUR WALLET. Do not leave your wallet within her reach. If you think you know a clever spot to hide it, remember that 100's of others have thought of it, too. While you're distracted, her free hand can be working.
18. YOUR MONEY. Do not have more in your pocket than you want to spend. She (and your dick) will talk it out of you. If she's really worth an extra few dollars, you can go get it (out of the trunk, the ATM, your other pocket, whatever). Current street rates are 20 for BJ. 40-50 for FS, and you can tip later if you think it's worth it. Remember, it isn't worth it just because you came. She'll always demand a tip, if she thinks it's coming. Many will claim they "usually charge more". The word on this board is: they don't. But, hey, some of these girls are hard-working, quality-driven providers, even though they're SW (really. I mean it!) , and they deserve a break.
19. HUNTING HOURS. They're out at all times, in most weather. I've heard of them walking as early as 4:30am, and well past midnight. They work the lunch hours for guys on lunch, afternoons for guys on early shifts, mornings for guys who'll be late for work, and all through the evening and night. If it's lightly raining, there will be less, but there will be some. Most of these girls are drug addicts; their addiction doesn't have a "M-F, excluding legal holidays" schedule.
20. CFS! Carry a condom. Usually, they don't have one (which I think is so fuc*ing stupid, but then, if they had a clue they wouldn't be SW-ing). You don't want to be tempted to skip the cover because that pussy is so fine.
And the freebie: Every time some SW claims "I'm the best! I'm worth more", it really means,"I'm a lame-ass lying lazy talent less junkie!" The good ones don't have to brag; they'll get your return business.
21. Don't let her use your cellphone. It's a very common request. She'll call her friend, or her own phone, and that will give her access to your. Which might set you up for unexpected & inopportune calls for business or bail money.
22. Be friendly. As has been noted in other threads, these are people with feelings, not just automaton sex dispensers. If you're friendly, chatty, and warm, she'll open up, relax, and probably be more generous with her service, in all the little ways that matter most. Remember, if she's never hooked up with you before, she's worried that you might be either LE, or some psycho SW-stalker.
As always Play Safe
Just wanted to help Golfcart and others out (no criticism meant). Golfcart copied them into his post for reference, but I wanted everyone to know that there is a link to the "22 Rules for Street Mongering" on the main page (http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/index.php).
It's on the left hand side. Directly to the left of the "Threads with Recent Reports" which is the main center section, there is the Hotlinks section. First is a link to "All The Forums" and then links to specific cities. Under that, there are some other hotlinks and the "22 Rules" are the 9th item down.
Here is a direct link to the page, which also has the "19 Rules for Street Walkers" and "Streetwalker Rules by Piker"
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/custompages.php?pageid=custompages_mongeringrules&title=22%20Rules%20for%20Street%20Mongering
Hope that helps some.
Be well and Merry Christmas!
JR
Jdiegs, Jackson has 22 Rules for Street Mongering. This is our Bible. The site is currently undergoing a software upgrade and unfortunately the list is not currently posted on the Home page. So Jdiegs, for you, here they are. Read and follow every one without exception.
Jry Wild1,
Thank you very much for your help. I have not been following several of those rules. I am glad to have come across others that will help me. I mean while and try to better understand how to use this forum to help me both get better dates and avoid LE.
Thanks.
Just wanted to help Golfcart and others out (no criticism meant). Golfcart copied them into his post for reference, but I wanted everyone to know that there is a link to the "22 Rules for Street Mongering" on the main page
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/index.php
It's on the left hand side. Directly to the left of the "Threads with Recent Reports" which is the main center section, there is the Hotlinks section. First is a link to "All The Forums" and then links to specific cities. Under that, there are some other hotlinks and the "22 Rules" are the 9th item down.
Here is a direct link to the page, which also has the "19 Rules for Street Walkers" and "Streetwalker Rules by Piker"
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/custompages.php?pageid=custompages_mongeringrules&title=22%20Rules%20for%20Street%20Mongering
Hope that helps some.
Be well and Merry Christmas!
JR
As promised, my shy friend who is worried about traceability of posts wrote up a recent experience for me to post. Here is his directly quoted description:
"Picked up an Angel on McM near D&D (remembering how HOT that spot is, I pulled around the corner to let her come to me. She looked good from a distance, medium height and fairly slim, and wearing a dark hoody which made her not immediately recognizable. She came around the corner directly to the car and jumped right in. Yes, she needed a ride... She was friendly, open to discussion. After we exchanged feels (no $ mentioned!) , we headed for a parking garage. As we approached the garage, we agreed on BBBJCIM for 0. 2. No argument, no bargaining, just straight up.
Once we parked in a relatively isolated area, she attended very nicely to business, responding well to direction about roughness (not rough) and speed (slow!). I especially liked that she lingered after the cumming event.
If you meet her, be very nice. She is a sweetie, worthy of respectful treatment, and in my case, well worth a 0.05 tip. She was grateful for the interaction."
Wow. I wouldn't mind meeting such an "Angel" myself. Thanks to my shy friend for the message.
Giani
I was on my way back from Tampa to Detroit, and I made a stop in Cincinnati to visit family. They all go to bed early, so I did the stroll around the State and 8th, nothing. Moved over to Elm and McM and little or nothing. One cute brunette but she was with a guy, or he was close enough that I was passing. Stephanie was on the corner, and I was running out of time and patience. So I swung around again and she hopped in. We went to a spot where she suggested and I thought it was pretty nice as well. I told her what I wanted (you will see in pics) and she was accommodating. I explained I didn't like to be rushed, and I figured as long as she had been sitting there, she wasn't busy. She got naked in the car, and those nipples were amazing. Huge, thick and responsive. She let me play with the kitty and after a few minutes announced she was cumming and I believed her because of the way she was acting. It wasn't really for show, more of the leaning back and enjoying the ride. All in all at this point we were in the car about 15-20 mins. Now it was my turn. She took her time, gave great attention to the boys, followed my requests for certain speed and technique. At the end she took it all like a champ. If I lived in Cincinnati, I wouldn't look elsewhere. Her skills were top notch, and her willing to take her time and patience earned her double her asking price for a total of. 4.
I think if someone is willing to be as patient and top notch skills deserved a decent tip. I had a smile all the way home.
I asked her if I could post pics and she told me it was ok.
Mr Boombastic
12-22-10, 11:56
I don't think we are talking about the same Misty.
There is more than one Misty, but there is also ONE Misty that I am talking about.
What info you posted did not sound like her behavior.
The Misty you spoke of I think I might know of but have not picked her up in a long time. But I if that is so, we did house dates, and she was never nervous about anything.
Also many times some of these SW's pretend to be others and many times they will use new names in order to general new Money, because of their old raps, or to act like new meat on the street. They know the game too. Be certain you know the game, their game, before they start to play any games.
Good Luck in the Game.
I had the opportunity to hook up with "misty" too. She acted a bit nervous when she first got into my car. After the car ride to the motel she actually showed a very cute personality. Cute face, and hot little body. She really didn't get into the sex that much and kind of ruined the BBBJ with all of the gagging she was doing. I didn't get her number, but I'm sure when the weather gets warmer she will be out on the street again.
Radical Guy
12-22-10, 13:07
Jesus Christ, what a skank! I wouldn't even let her blow my dog, nor would I touch that disgusting excuse for a woman with a ten-foot pole. But. To each their own, I guess.
I was on my way back from Tampa to Detroit, and I made a stop in Cincinnati to visit family. They all go to bed early, so I did the stroll around the State and 8th, nothing. Moved over to Elm and McM and little or nothing. One cute brunette but she was with a guy, or he was close enough that I was passing. Stephanie was on the corner, and I was running out of time and patience. So I swung around again and she hopped in. We went to a spot where she suggested and I thought it was pretty nice as well. I told her what I wanted (you will see in pics) and she was accommodating. I explained I didn't like to be rushed, and I figured as long as she had been sitting there, she wasn't busy. She got naked in the car, and those nipples were amazing. Huge, thick and responsive. She let me play with the kitty and after a few minutes announced she was cumming and I believed her because of the way she was acting. It wasn't really for show, more of the leaning back and enjoying the ride. All in all at this point we were in the car about 15-20 mins. Now it was my turn. She took her time, gave great attention to the boys, followed my requests for certain speed and technique. At the end she took it all like a champ. If I lived in Cincinnati, I wouldn't look elsewhere. Her skills were top notch, and her willing to take her time and patience earned her double her asking price for a total of. 4.
I think if someone is willing to be as patient and top notch skills deserved a decent tip. I had a smile all the way home.
I asked her if I could post pics and she told me it was ok.
Good report, nice set of pix. And it turned out OK for you to go to her spot (take great caution unless you know her well-you probably know this already).
It has been a while since we've had a decent set of pix. Thanks from all of us.
. At the end she took it all like a champ. If I lived in Cincinnati, I wouldn't look elsewhere. Her skills were top notch, and her willing to take her time and patience earned her double her asking price for a total of. 4.
I think if someone is willing to be as patient and top notch skills deserved a decent tip. I had a smile all the way home.
I asked her if I could post pics and she told me it was ok.
FYI. About 4pm this afternoon, two undercover LE had a WSW cuffed on McMik, just south of Straight. I didn't get a good look at her because she was facing away from the street.
There was NO visible marked LE presence. I didn't stick around long enough to see where they were going to come from. Make sure you are following the rules.
She took her time, gave great attention to the boys, followed my requests for certain speed and technique. At the end she took it all like a champ. If I lived in Cincinnati, I wouldn't look elsewhere. Her skills were top notch, and her willing to take her time and patience earned her double her asking price for a total of. 4.
I think if someone is willing to be as patient and top notch skills deserved a decent tip. I had a smile all the way home.
I asked her if I could post pics and she told me it was ok. I agree fully with Tongue's summary of Stephanie's skills. They are very good and I have never felt rushed with her. She is interested in referal biz and said that I could share her digits with Senior members that are looking for the hook up. Send me a PM.
So after reading the rules and learning how to more safely pickup; I went to McMicken. I was looking forward to another pickup. However, all up and down the street there were several LE. This was around 2:30-3 today. I stopped counting marked cars after 7. I was to nervous to continue touring and got out there. Now I see on the forum that around 4 today someone saw a SW being picked up by and unmarked. I am sure glad I didn't make a move today. They were probably setting the UC's when I saw all the LE.
Be safe out there; and I can't wait to get back out there.
So after reading the rules and learning how to more safely pickup; I went to McMicken. I was looking forward to another pickup. However, all up and down the street there were several LE. This was around 2:30-3 today. I stopped counting marked cars after 7. I was to nervous to continue touring and got out there. Now I see on the forum that around 4 today someone saw a SW being picked up by and unmarked. I am sure glad I didn't make a move today. They were probably setting the UC's when I saw all the LE.
Be safe out there; and I can't wait to get back out there. "The force grows strong with you." Good move on skipping out on the action. Trust your instincts and always assume they were right.
Jesus Christ, what a skank! I wouldn't even let her blow my dog, nor would I touch that disgusting excuse for a woman with a ten-foot pole. But. To each their own, I guess.Sorry you don't care for her looks. I've been with awesome looking women who couldn't blow their nose. I'll take skills over looks almost any day. I missed your posts with pictures. Can you point them out?
In this holiday season, please remember to be kind to all and negativity needs to take a back seat to positive reports.
Looking Out
12-23-10, 22:56
Anyone else see the cute redhead on McMik near MLK, on the 19th, around 3pm? She caught my eye a couple times but she kept walking the same spot for alomst an hour, and the first couple times there was 2 uncle leo's maybe 200 ft from where she was at. Didn't seem to bother her but it sure did bother me, thats why I didn't pick. Saw some others down closer to elm but none seemed worth the risk, And found a hot Ebony princess in red pants on elm and central, but she wouldn't get close enough for me to invite her for a chat. Any other good area's in town or am I in the right spot just the wrong times? Should I head farther down MLK away from central?
Keep Looking Out
Just wanted to help Golfcart and others out (no criticism meant). Golfcart copied them into his post for reference, but I wanted everyone to know that there is a link to the "22 Rules for Street Mongering" on the main page (
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/index.php
).
It's on the left hand side. Directly to the left of the "Threads with Recent Reports" which is the main center section, there is the Hotlinks section. First is a link to "All The Forums" and then links to specific cities. Under that, there are some other hotlinks and the "22 Rules" are the 9th item down.
Here is a direct link to the page, which also has the "19 Rules for Street Walkers" and "Streetwalker Rules by Piker"
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/custompages.php?pageid=custompages_mongeringrules&title=22%20Rules%20for%20Street%20Mongering
Hope that helps some.
Be well and Merry Christmas!
JRJR, we're both right. The 22 Rules are back up now, but not when I made my post. I checked first. I would not have taken up that much space otherwise. They were added back to the site within something like an hour or two after my post. It wasn't long.
Snowflake was reviewed by someone else a couple of months ago. I recently had a chance meeting with her as well. Pretty cute and young, but annoying with subpar skills. Probably wouldn't repeat, unless it was my only option.
Looks 7.
Skills 3.
Attitude 3
Upullandpay
12-26-10, 17:33
Sorry you don't care for her looks. I've been with awesome looking women who couldn't blow their nose. I'll take skills over looks almost any day. I missed your posts with pictures. Can you point them out?
In this holiday season, please remember to be kind to all and negativity needs to take a back seat to positive reports. I agree with Tongue:
Maybe I am wrong, I believe negative comments should be saved for personnel experiences or rip-off reports.
None of these girls are going to be perfect or they wouldn't be SW.
For example I love steak. I can't afford to have steak all the time so I settle for a hamburger. You get what you pay for with a SW.
I agree with Tongue:
Maybe I am wrong, I believe negative comments should be saved for personnel experiences or rip-off reports.
None of these girls are going to be perfect or they wouldn't be SW.
For example I love steak. I can't afford to have steak all the time so I settle for a hamburger. You get what you pay for with a SW. True, but for the record you can find much better looking SW's for the same kind of money out there. I'm at least glad pics were included with the post though. We can judge looks by ourselves without calling someone out their opinions. I think due to a LE scare, we've barely seen any photos in the Cincy SW thread lately. Great job Tongue for the informative posts and pics set. We should be grateful we have another confirmed Senior Member to rely on.
I used to post on the world sex guide and was a senior member on those threads. Went by the handle Pino. Spent some time in OTR and have definitely seen a drop in the action. What ever happened to JoJo, duty and Brook? There used to be a girl named Renee that hung around the firehouse. I have passed stephanie on many occasions, but would usually run into another one on the way around to picking her up. I lost Misty's digits so I am back to trying to cruise the area to see if she is hanging around. Haven't been too lucky lately. Anyone happen to run into a thin, short haired blonde that hangs around McMicken and Ravine?
True, but for the record you can find much better looking SW's for the same kind of money out there. I'm at least glad pics were included with the post though. We can judge looks by ourselves without calling someone out their opinions. I think due to a LE scare, we've barely seen any photos in the Cincy SW thread lately. Great job Tongue for the informative posts and pics set. We should be grateful we have another confirmed Senior Member to rely on.
Thanks for clarifying my clarification, Golfcart. I was surprised that you would have missed the link. That explains it, though. The board is still in a state of flux.
Hope you and everyone else had a Merry Christmas!
JR
JR, we're both right. The 22 Rules are back up now, but not when I made my post. I checked first. I would not have taken up that much space otherwise. They were added back to the site within something like an hour or two after my post. It wasn't long.
I used to post on the world sex guide and was a senior member on those threads. Went by the handle Pino. Spent some time in OTR and have definitely seen a drop in the action. What ever happened to JoJo, duty and Brook? There used to be a girl named Renee that hung around the firehouse. I have passed stephanie on many occasions, but would usually run into another one on the way around to picking her up. I lost Misty's digits so I am back to trying to cruise the area to see if she is hanging around. Haven't been too lucky lately. Anyone happen to run into a thin, short haired blonde that hangs around McMicken and Ravine?Welcome Poondaddy.
First, wow, those names go back a long time ago. OTR has been bombarded with LEO for quite awhile therefore most SWs have moved on to other places. There are still a few hanging around but it's not like it was a couple a years ago. There been a few sightings at the Mohawk corner but timing has to be right to scoop up someone.
In a nutshell a lot of SWs have left town and some are in look-up and the rest are in other places and or in hiding.
Based on the names you've mentioned about it's been awhile since you're cruised the area so there are new ones out about.
PM me if need more info. Also the McMicken trail is usually hot with LE and neighborhood watchers so be careful.
Harpo
Radical Guy
12-27-10, 14:12
Sorry you don't care for her looks. I've been with awesome looking women who couldn't blow their nose. I'll take skills over looks almost any day. I missed your posts with pictures. Can you point them out?
In this holiday season, please remember to be kind to all and negativity needs to take a back seat to positive reports. I guess my last post is a great example why one should never post anything on a public forum after drinking. I'm not much of a drinker, but I had a few before writing that very rude post. Sorry for that. My comments were definitely uncalled for.
RG
Tyson Phenix
12-27-10, 19:29
I had a dream I met a WSW that went by the name of Mary the other day in the industrial section of McM. I would guess mid 20's, dirty blonde hair, very cute face, and full set of clean straight teeth. Upon first pass I thought she was a civilian, even though she gave the look. I circled back around, and she jumped right in. We left the hot zone, did our checks, and found a place to park. Settled on. 4 for half and half. Overall I would give her looks an 8, Attitude 9, and Skills 8. She is in my top two of ATFs. She said she doesn't walk much, but really needed the money. In addition, she has her own place in NKY, and drives her own car to OTR when she needs cash. She does have digits, which work, as I have seen her since at her place since our first encounter. Her place is very clean, and quiet. After seeing her at her place in full light, I still put her looks at an 8, which I originally would have gave a 9-10. The only negative thing is a little extra skin around the midsection, which I believe is evidence of a baby. I thought about keeping this gem to myself, but she said I could share with trusted senior members. PM if interested.
Man you were on the board when I use to post weekly, and when the LE started trying to use the SW's posted to come after us. Good they wouldn't talk unlike now. Back then we had everything any other big city had in SW action. But Not Now!
Man JoJo and her vibrator are long gone. She was with Frank in the ugly green SUV right. She had the purple vibrator she always carried around. Anyway, many of them kicked the habit, and got off the streets. Only a few fell off the horse, got back on drugs, then kicked it again for good. Girls like Kiwi, Martha, Cassie, and more than I can remember, are so-called CLEAN now. Kiwi is back in Clemont Cty with her parent, and Martha has a 2-3y / o with parents again. Brook if the same as I remember had the SW sister, and they worked together, moved to Florida with her SW sister who hit it big with some old rich man that is taking care of both of them. I saw her back about 2yrs ago driving a fancy caddy with florida Dade Cty plates on it. I think it was Dade Cty. She had not changed. I had her meet up with me, and later we Kicked It all night on a Saturday, drinking, and talking at her Hotel room. We even stopped together at the Pit-Stop, to see old friends.
Everything is changed now, and that happened after a few white drug users were shot and killed near Green street, and then the Sheriff were called in and time got very hard. The bad Econ, should have made the street better, but not really. The selection is Poor because the LE presence is very HIGH and the Casinos are on the way, so the street have to be cleaned up in order to secure the Gaming License.
Gambling has changed everything like it did in Detroit and Jersey, and it will never go back.
Please PM me, and we can go over old times. Giani is now far ahead of me in post, and I rarely post anymore, unless challenged or pissed off. But I do post a little info, and times for me are still very good. I would even say Great, because I am still using the tactics that have been in place for years before me.
Oh by the way the little rip-off artist going by "Short-Body" is still trickin. She is drugged out now, but still watch out for her. She had a baby, so she is a lot thicker now.
As for Misty the Tall, Sexz Ding Bat, trying to find her it is a Dice Throw, and most time she is just a minute away or you are an hour late. But she is still out there. Now she is in a NKY jail over child support.
Oh Well!
I used to post on the world sex guide and was a senior member on those threads. Went by the handle Pino. Spent some time in OTR and have definitely seen a drop in the action. What ever happened to JoJo, duty and Brook? There used to be a girl named Renee that hung around the firehouse. I have passed stephanie on many occasions, but would usually run into another one on the way around to picking her up. I lost Misty's digits so I am back to trying to cruise the area to see if she is hanging around. Haven't been too lucky lately. Anyone happen to run into a thin, short haired blonde that hangs around McMicken and Ravine?
The more things change. Welcome back Pino-you probably know that the street scene changes more rapidly than the clothes they take off. I know of zero providers from several years ago who are still on the street. For the better, some, as Word mentions, have cleaned up and left the scene. Some, like Rachel, who wound up HIV positive, was, last I heard a guest of LEO, Sauna is in IN, surviving her hatchet attack, Cat's in KY, at this point still clean (for the umpteenth time) , Kiwi? Hadn't heard what she was up to, Michelle with the implants moved to Detroit, etc.
Yes things are different. The hot zones keep changing as LE moves their focus of pressure. But McM is still the best bet. I even saw several recently on Elm. But Vine and McM is cold as ice these days, the Firehouse no longer good cruising grounds.
Again, welcome back, keep your caution radar in good working order, as both LE and SWs have learned a lot in the passing years.
Giani
I know many people reading this post are saying So-What, but at one point early in the another forum, before it was even the USASG, we were the about the only people who were posting legit information. There were a few other, but we all knew who was telling the truth, and we didn't need to be direct. We could give detail, and just fill in the missing pieces, with just what we already knew. Now everyone wants details, and the LE, reads the post like a daily newspaper. We were the main ones posting the pix, and it took as long as 1-2 weeks for a post to show up. So if you had info to share, it was not anywhere as quick as it is now.
Thanks to Jackson, and his desire to keep this web site up to date, I / We Thank him. And I still think it should be a Membership Fee, to post info and Free to read info.
As for the streets, it use to be that any SW that was picked up, captured, jailed, would never Snitch on anyone and anything. They knew the consequences of doing so. That has changed. Many SW's are too willing to trade info to stay out of jail, and LE is using the hell out of them, and then just dumping them back on the streets defenseless. Once on the streets, they are left on their own, and once someone finds out they snitched on them, their Boyz go after them, and without Protection of some kind they are doomed.
I tried to express this about using Escorts, and them having your number in their Black book.
Once LE gets a hold of it and these are not High Class Escort, but once that do it for extra money, too lazy or can't find a regular job, or are on drugs, or even have a pimp using them for whatever. I even had about one of the guys here on the forum being blackmailed by some two bit Hoe and her Pimp. Aint that some "Shyt."
Pino, the Pit-Stop is closed, and that did it for the regular spot to meet up at. It was a Hole-in-the-Wall, but everyone could meet up there. They closed "Dukes" but it wasn't a meeting spot but a location of reference like the Fire Stations, the Theater. Man the LE really screwed over the owner of Dukes too. Charging him with everything rather true or not.
All the After-Hour place have be closed down, do to drugs and violence, and young folks lack of respect for each other. Even the motorcycle gangs have moved in and are resuming their gangland war.
The streets have only a few so-called regulars, back from our time, but they are basically Skanks now. I still give a few a Hello, and 2-3 buck every now and then, most I can't even remember their names. They use to be Hot Shyt back 4-5 years ago, but they never cleaned up waiting in jail, or with help, and now they are gone to the streets.
More SW on the streets now engage in BiSexual activities, and even admit to it. Man it is nothing to get a 3some / moresome. And best of all, we are only talking about sometimes as low as 20 per / girl. And best of all, throw in some food & drinks and you can have them for hours and pay nothing extra. It is still all in your Game. And you can still have Mother / Daughter & Cousin / Cousin teams, and even Girlfriend / Girlfriend.
You name it, it is there. You just have to know how to get there to get it. PM me for more details. Of course what I tell you in PM is Never to be posted.
Sounds like I must be a be a newb around here since I've only been here since 2007 and compared to you with all of your 3 posts! J / k Welcome to the board. So where have you been hiding at? This is the second or third person I've heard looking for the elusive Misty as well. I'm going to have to keep my eyes peeled for this "so-called" nice piece of ass.
Bigtruck007
12-29-10, 14:54
Ran across Tracy from WV at lunch today. Gave her a lift, did the check then as driving I ran across 2 LE cars up in the heights which made me a bit nervous, so much that I had to drop her back with a. 10 for the feel and squeeze. She was a bit pissed that I didn't want BJ cause she needed the money for Heroine. She's nice enough, but getting a bit strung out. On my way down MCM I saw a cute 20's WSW, @5'4" with great wavy hair and pretty smile by the old sunflower coffeehouse. I had to circle around for the LE check, since she seemed TGTBT. Came back around and she was gone. Damn. Circled for another 20-30 but she never came back or she ducked into the crack house on MCM by the Ho-Motel. They are out there today. Light LE
Tyson Phenix
12-30-10, 21:24
It looks like Mary is out of minutes on her phone. My apologies to all I've PM with that have not been able to reach her. I will continue trying, and give you an update when finally reach her.
I had a dream I met a WSW that went by the name of Mary the other day in the industrial section of McM. I would guess mid 20's, dirty blonde hair, very cute face, and full set of clean straight teeth. Upon first pass I thought she was a civilian, even though she gave the look. I circled back around, and she jumped right in. We left the hot zone, did our checks, and found a place to park. Settled on. 4 for half and half. Overall I would give her looks an 8, Attitude 9, and Skills 8. She is in my top two of ATFs. She said she doesn't walk much, but really needed the money. In addition, she has her own place in NKY, and drives her own car to OTR when she needs cash. She does have digits, which work, as I have seen her since at her place since our first encounter. Her place is very clean, and quiet. After seeing her at her place in full light, I still put her looks at an 8, which I originally would have gave a 9-10. The only negative thing is a little extra skin around the midsection, which I believe is evidence of a baby. I thought about keeping this gem to myself, but she said I could share with trusted senior members. PM if interested.
Ran across Tracy from WV at lunch today. Gave her a lift, did the check then as driving I ran across 2 LE cars up in the heights which made me a bit nervous, so much that I had to drop her back with a. 10 for the feel and squeeze. She was a bit pissed that I didn't want BJ cause she needed the money for Heroine. She's nice enough, but getting a bit strung out. On my way down MCM I saw a cute 20's WSW, @5'4" with great wavy hair and pretty smile by the old sunflower coffeehouse. I had to circle around for the LE check, since she seemed TGTBT. Came back around and she was gone. Damn. Circled for another 20-30 but she never came back or she ducked into the crack house on MCM by the Ho-Motel. They are out there today. Light LEI had to laugh about how you dropped Tracy back on the streets. I'm not sure if this was your first time or was to be the first time before you got spooked from all the LE in the area. But let me say this about, Tracy, and her habit. She can't wait long once she got her dough to leave. So always get service first before giving her your dough.
Her story is interesting. We talked and she is a pretty smart lady and she just about finished college. Then the addiction took ahold of her. She will stay out all night just to get dough for her heroin. Also she told some stories about LE in OTR hassling her for being on the streets even when she not working but walking to a friend's place. So do be careful if you pick her up because if LE see you with her in your car they will probably stop you and hassle your ass.
BTW today and yesterday there were more LE cruisers out than usual. At the spot where you, Bigtruck007, spotted a wavy hair, there looks to be a recent eviction at one of the apartment buildings along McMicken. May be where SWs and friends hang out before.
Also on McMicken near Straight street there was a huge backhoe loader tearing down a brick house where SWs would hang out for pick-ups. This reminds me that a year ago there were a couple of apartment buildings that were torn down on McMicken next to the D & D Mart. Reason was because of all the druggies going in and out of those places. So watch yourself when in the area because IMHO there are others watching as well.
Harpo
I hooked up with Tracy back in the summer. Great conversationalist and excellent service. I called her about a month after our first meeting and she sounded pretty wasted on the phone. Towards the end of the summer, I saw her walking down MCM looking pretty bad. I was cruising through yesterday and saw a few SWs out. I was specifically looking for Misty. Drove my usual route and left for home when I didn't see her. I'm feeling like getting a massage with a happy ending today.
I had to laugh about how you dropped Tracy back on the streets. I'm not sure if this was your first time or was to be the first time before you got spooked from all the LE in the area. But let me say this about, Tracy, and her habit. She can't wait long once she got her dough to leave. So always get service first before giving her your dough.
Her story is interesting. We talked and she is a pretty smart lady and she just about finished college. Then the addiction took ahold of her. She will stay out all night just to get dough for her heroin. Also she told some stories about LE in OTR hassling her for being on the streets even when she not working but walking to a friend's place. So do be careful if you pick her up because if LE see you with her in your car they will probably stop you and hassle your ass.
BTW today and yesterday there were more LE cruisers out than usual. At the spot where you, Bigtruck007, spotted a wavy hair, there looks to be a recent eviction at one of the apartment buildings along McMicken. May be where SWs and friends hang out before.
Also on McMicken near Straight street there was a huge backhoe loader tearing down a brick house where SWs would hang out for pick-ups. This reminds me that a year ago there were a couple of apartment buildings that were torn down on McMicken next to the D & D Mart. Reason was because of all the druggies going in and out of those places. So watch yourself when in the area because IMHO there are others watching as well.
Harpo
I had quite the day today (It will pale in comparison to WhoDey or Wingman but.). I started out today by trying to call Mary (Tyson Phenix posted on her and was gracious enough to share). She answered and after the typical back and forth we agreed to meet. The first meeting was a bit strange but she was attractive and the skills seem to be there. I will repeat and report back. If any Seniors would like details PM me and I'm happy to share.
On the way back home I realized the I had more $'s left than I anticipated having so I called my StreetScort, Renee. She never ceases to amaze me and blow my mind, among other things. I'm serious guys. If you haven't seen her your are missing out for the money. I can only attest to her oral skills but I love them and she is a sweetheart. She's not a hottie but I've also seen a whole lot worse. Enthusiasm and attitude trump 20-something bodies at least IMHO. Anyhow. That was my fun New Year's Day. Hope you had a good one!
Short version:
1/2 and 1/2. CUTE face, nice teeth, GREAT hair, well groomed, unrushed and VERY SEXY eyes and smile. Only thing is she has some extra skin around her stomach from a pregnancy. She must have been a BOMBSHELL in her day. Still looks very good.
Face 9
Body 8
BBBJ skillz 9
FS skillz 8
Smell 9
Attitude 10
Folks, if she isn't a diamond then she's at least a ruby.
Upullandpay
01-03-11, 08:34
A senior member suggested I re-post this here
I was driving down Vine in Carthage about 3 in the afternoon. About 3 blocks south of the UDF. A blond nodded and I went around the block. She got in. We drove around for a few miles then we parked. We talked about what I wanted and I handed her the funds. She pulled her phone out and started talking to someone telling them where we were. She said she was a Cincinnati police and I was under arrest. I told her to get out and she did and I drove away.
She was about 3 blocks south of the UDF in Carthage.
Description: White Blond 5'5" 130lbs are so. 5 on looks, Tan coat. 45 years old. No bra. B cup or so. I know this because I felt her breast, Went by Angel. She was with a guy on a 20" bike riding around. As soon as I was pretty sure it was a scam but you never know.
Thank's for posting the 22 rules, They helped me get thru this.
Bigtruck007
01-03-11, 17:50
I had to laugh about how you dropped Tracy back on the streets.
BTW today and yesterday there were more LE cruisers out than usual. At the spot where you, Bigtruck007, spotted a wavy hair, there looks to be a recent eviction at one of the apartment buildings along McMicken. May be where SWs and friends hang out before.
Also on McMicken near Straight street there was a huge backhoe loader tearing down a brick house where SWs would hang out for pick-ups. This reminds me that a year ago there were a couple of apartment buildings that were torn down on McMicken next to the D & D Mart. Reason was because of all the druggies going in and out of those places. So watch yourself when in the area because IMHO there are others watching as well.
HarpoHa Ha, Yeah I was laughing at myself too. I hardly ever pick them up in the daytime, since I am really paranoid about getting busted, but you can see the hotties much better in the daytime, or at least see the scabs and keep on rolling. When I got Tracy, we went up in the heights and I saw a cruiser do a quick turn right where we were and that scared the shit out of me. I been pulled over 2 times with ladies, but luckily got let off since nothing was going on. "just giving a ride"- I must be one lucky bastard. Lucky I found the crack pipe one of them dropped in my car, too.
Yes, I noticed the eviction and the recent teardown. I used to see many ladies right in front of the two apartment buildings they torn down by the mini-mart. I noticed there were a few who were living in the apartment right next to the Stop and Rob on the corner of MLK and MCM, but there were a few "eviction sales" going on there recently as well. They can move them, but we will always find 'them. And like you say, that area is really f'and hot so I usually do 2 or 3 drive-bys just to make sure.
A senior member suggested I re-post this here
I was driving down Vine in Carthage about 3 in the afternoon. About 3 blocks south of the UDF. A blond nodded and I went around the block. She got in. We drove around for a few miles then we parked. We talked about what I wanted and I handed her the funds. She pulled her phone out and started talking to someone telling them where we were. She said she was a Cincinnati police and I was under arrest. I told her to get out and she did and I drove away.
She was about 3 blocks south of the UDF in Carthage.
Description: White Blond 5'5" 130lbs are so. 5 on looks, Tan coat. 45 years old. No bra. B cup or so. I know this because I felt her breast, Went by Angel. She was with a guy on a 20" bike riding around. As soon as I was pretty sure it was a scam but you never know.
Thank's for posting the 22 rules, They helped me get thru this. Scammed, absolutely. Good job on posting her info for others to avoid. As you know, you probably could have avoided it by not paying in advance as mentioned in the 22 rules. Honestly though, I never worry about paying in advance. If I think a girl is up to something, I'll send her packing quickly. In all of my years, that's probably only happened once or twice, so long ago I can't even remember. In all actuality, the more experienced you get, the more keen your senses are to someone being up to no good. You can sense them being nervous and trying to pull a fast one. They can also tell you're not a rookie yourself. If you look nervous, they might use it to their advantage. I find that the more comfortable everyone is, the better the experience / enjoyment. As a novice, you better stick to no payment or partial payment.
On another note....Could it actually happen?...Finally? I doubt it.
I too have to say, she is escort material at SW prices! My ATF SW experience.
Short version:
1/2 and 1/2. CUTE face, nice teeth, GREAT hair, well groomed, unrushed and VERY SEXY eyes and smile. Only thing is she has some extra skin around her stomach from a pregnancy. She must have been a BOMBSHELL in her day. Still looks very good.
Face 9
Body 8.
BBBJ skillz 9.
FS skillz 8.
Smell 9
Attitude 10.
Folks, if she isn't a diamond then she's at least a ruby.
Excellent rich, information containing post (hint to newbies out there). Here are a few conclusions I would offer:
1) She is NOT LE because
a) she jumped right in, and
b) she lety ou cop a feel.
c) Also, very unllikely that she has a 'tender' on a microbike circling around!
2) It is one of the most basic rules to NEVER front the money. As a newbie myself, I made that mistake a few times-but not since. Paid up front, they don't ALWAYS do the "cash and dash," but if not you are lucky. If you are inclined to front enough $ for a drink (etc), hold their belongings as collateral, tho even then, I have even been left holding a lame ass purse and a phone out of minutes... ;-)
3) Wish you got a picture of this SW scammer. I am a great believer of posting as detailed info about scammers as possible.
4) What a wild tale! Got to give her credit for her cahones. So let me get this straight. Did she offer to let you go for a bribe, or was she happy with the 'fee' that she already ripped off from you?
A senior member suggested I re-post this here
I was driving down Vine in Carthage about 3 in the afternoon. About 3 blocks south of the UDF. A blond nodded and I went around the block. She got in. We drove around for a few miles then we parked. We talked about what I wanted and I handed her the funds. She pulled her phone out and started talking to someone telling them where we were. She said she was a Cincinnati police and I was under arrest. I told her to get out and she did and I drove away.
She was about 3 blocks south of the UDF in Carthage.
Description: White Blond 5'5" 130lbs are so. 5 on looks, Tan coat. 45 years old. No bra. B cup or so. I know this because I felt her breast, Went by Angel. She was with a guy on a 20" bike riding around. As soon as I was pretty sure it was a scam but you never know.
Thank's for posting the 22 rules, They helped me get thru this.
Bigtruck007
01-04-11, 12:03
Man you were on the board when I use to post weekly, and when the LE started trying to use the SW's posted to come after us. Good they wouldn't talk unlike now. Back then we had everything any other big city had in SW action. But Not Now!
Oh Well! Nice post! . Since I am relatively new to this forum I enjoy reading about the old times, since that is when I used to do most of my mongering and its kinda good to hear that others remember how many ladies used to be out there on the MCM loop. Shyt, you would even find them as far up as 12th / vine. I always wax nostalgic for the days when you could drive 5 blocks and see at least 5 ladies, and many who were quality. Anyone remember Odessa from about 8 years ago? She was the finest woman I ever saw down there.@20 yr old, Tall, Mixed race with a smoking body and many quality tribal tattoos. I drove around with her a few times and talked, but never tapped it because of timing issues. I wish now I would have- last I saw of her she was pregnant and strung out. Not a good combination. And Heidi from Indiana was looking good back then and very GFE. Last I saw her, she had lost a few teeth. I always pass her a $5 when I see her standing there but she is past her prime.
Upullandpay
01-04-11, 12:10
4) What a wild tale! Got to give her credit for her cahones. So let me get this straight. Did she offer to let you go for a bribe, or was she happy with the 'fee' that she already ripped off from you?
No bribe, She took the money and got out'
If I ever see her again I will try to get a pic from my car and post it.
This has to be the same Mary that Tyson shared digits for. I hesitate to put this in the SW forum, since that is not how I met her, but this is where the commentary seems to be.
Getnati's description is right on. SW price, with looks / performance better than I've paid 3x the price with an escort.
Short version:
1/2 and 1/2. CUTE face, nice teeth, GREAT hair, well groomed, unrushed and VERY SEXY eyes and smile. Only thing is she has some extra skin around her stomach from a pregnancy. She must have been a BOMBSHELL in her day. Still looks very good.
Face 9
Body 8.
BBBJ skillz 9.
FS skillz 8.
Smell 9
Attitude 10.
Folks, if she isn't a diamond then she's at least a ruby.
This has to be the same Mary that Tyson shared digits for. I hesitate to put this in the SW forum, since that is not how I met her, but this is where the commentary seems to be.
Getnati's description is right on. SW price, with looks / performance better than I've paid 3x the price with an escort. Yeah, same girl and she walks occasionally down here and in Kentucky. She's not the BEST looking of the SW's, but she is definitely in the upper percentile. I've got to say, I have some hot ones in my black book from over the years.
I just wanted to thank everyone for posting all this great information. I haven't picked up a SW yet, only a few escorts. But I'll keep reading and maybe one day I'll pull the trigger.
Thanks again!
Jay Malibu
01-05-11, 10:37
I was on my way home Monday around 6PM and got the look from a slim blond. Perhaps a 5 to 7 on an escort scale. Madison between 8th and 9th. I had a scheduled appointment Tuesday that I was saving up for so I didn't stop. Monday was a bit warmer so I guess that made a bit of difference. It's been kind of bare when the temps are in the teens.
Bigtruck007
01-05-11, 11:33
I was on my way home Monday around 6PM and got the look from a slim blond. Perhaps a 5 to 7 on an escort scale. Madison between 8th and 9th. I had a scheduled appointment Tuesday that I was saving up for so I didn't stop. Monday was a bit warmer so I guess that made a bit of difference. It's been kind of bare when the temps are in the teens.NOBODY was out on MCM loop yesterday lunch time. Ill have to hit the covington loop today.
MassageFreak
01-06-11, 22:07
Normally I don't partake in the SW scene, but I was out and about today and thought I may do some window shopping. Was downtown first around race and central, by a bar called 1132 I think. Seen some I thought could be BSW but just watch and circled. One was really hot, but I passed. Went to covington and seen a few but there were just as many LE as there were SW's. Lastly I went to beechmont to see if I could see the normal WSW that frequent the area by 275. Didn't see any of them, and there are normally 3-4 wandering around. Big LE presence though, so that may have had something to do with it.
Received some texts and a call from an old ATF of mine named Natasha (search this thread for prior reports and a pic). She has been MIA and the story is that she had to volunteer some time at a facility in central OH. Been having some difficulty connecting with her though which was also an issue in the past but my experiences with her were always highly favorable and outweighed any logistical issues encountered.
She has supposedly cleaned up but is obviously searching for some of that E-Z $ if she's seeking out an old contact like me. I'll remain persistent and if able to make a love connection will find out if she's interested in participating in the friends & family plan that we offer here. Stay tuned. Sending this update for those that know and love her to keep a watchful eye since she is now on the stroll again. Seems that staying in the safe harbor of the suburbs did not last too long for her and she has returned to old friends and old habits in old locations.
Met up with her once shortly following the quoted post and really looked good: probably about 25 pounds heavier after serving her time and while she was on the busty side before, her former C's have now blosomed into nice full D's. Same ethusiastic, top notch service as I remembered from last Winter / Spring. She was trying to be somewhat of a good girl at the time and did not want me sharing digits, but now that phone number appears to be dead along with her cleaned up good girl image.
She is still as elusive as ever though so be prepaired for that. Got multiple calls / texts from her last night from a different number that does not appear to be hers since different name and voice on VM greeting. She wanted me to come out on the stroll to play, but got stood up after making the drive downtown and she wouldn't respond any further to messages. SWs and unreliability are one thing that never changes no matter how good they might be in other categories! Enjoy if you run into her.
Nkykinkyguy
01-08-11, 16:58
Not sure I should post this here or not but WTH! I am doing it anyway. LOL!
Recently met with my S / W pick up from awhile back. She had her place all to herself and called me for a little fun. I guess she is now more of a favorite regular than a S / W to me. I had a great time and she is considering letting me refer a few of my friends here to her. Meeting her again on Sunday will let you know on Monday if she is up for more friends.
KG
I have to say, she is jumping up in the ranks as being one of my top ATF's. Met up with her again to get one of the those fantastic BBBJCIM's. What I like about her is that she's unbelievably beautiful, easy to get a hold of, cheap, and has remarkably talented skills. Not to forget one of the most important things: SUPER nice and EASY to get along with. One thing she doesn't like is feeling uncomfortable. Don't give her the heebeegeebees our you'll get ousted from access.
This absolutely belongs in the SW forum since that is how she was discovered. She doesn't like the escort / advertising route because in her words "that's how you get caught". Word of mouth from a friend is the absolute best forms of advertising their is. Also, this is one of the best referrals ever given to me on this board. Great find.
I saw Mary this AM. My experience with her couldn't be more opposite of nati's. It was my second visit and I am obviously one of those that makes her uncomfortable. She set the price and then complained about it and it was a rushed, uninspired BBBJCIM. She didn't even bother to take her bra off so I could play with her very nice tits. It's doubtful I will repeat at this point bit never say never as I find her looks to be intoxicating. I may just be that stupid. YMMV and I hope it's better than mine with her.
Mr Boombastic
01-10-11, 08:05
I think we are the only city I have been to that has Pimps on a Bicycle. Where else does the happen.
If this WSW is working in that location it is a chances are she might be new to this area, and only in it to make some quick money. The police and people in that area tend to pay more attention to SW activities, and anything that looks like it. They see it as equal to drug dealing.
If you are going to do street action, you have to be ready to call someones bluff. If you can't then the streets will run over you, without mercy. If you show fear, then it will be picked up immediately. Scammers can see fear, and can pick the weakest from the herd and attack.
Don't make yourself into a victim, and be bold enough to physically drag an SW out of your car by the hair, if the need be. If you can; t be a little on the ruthless side or appear to be, then be prepared to have scams tried on you.
Not everyone can do this, and not everyone wants to, but appearance can be everything.
A senior member suggested I re-post this here
I was driving down Vine in Carthage about 3 in the afternoon. About 3 blocks south of the UDF. A blond nodded and I went around the block. She got in. We drove around for a few miles then we parked. We talked about what I wanted and I handed her the funds. She pulled her phone out and started talking to someone telling them where we were. She said she was a Cincinnati police and I was under arrest. I told her to get out and she did and I drove away.
She was about 3 blocks south of the UDF in Carthage.
Description: White Blond 5'5" 130lbs are so. 5 on looks, Tan coat. 45 years old. No bra. B cup or so. I know this because I felt her breast, Went by Angel. She was with a guy on a 20" bike riding around. As soon as I was pretty sure it was a scam but you never know.
Thank's for posting the 22 rules, They helped me get thru this.
Nkykinkyguy
01-10-11, 09:32
My Sunday meet with my streetscort did not materialize. It appears that she got her fun on before I was to meet her. She could barely hold a conversation on the phone. I took a pass and I think it will be a permanent pass.
I have to be honest; I do not do well in these types of situations. I clearly understand that S / W, streetscorts and Escorts can and do succumb to pharmaceutical addiction. I just have a very difficult time dealing with it when it is right in my face.
I personally have not had to deal with this issue as much in my dealings with Escorts. I have meet with an escort or two that clearly needed the money to get where she wanted to go, hence the very rushed session which I was more than OK with because I was very glad it was over.
But anytime that I have had any contact with a S / W or someone that does both. Pharmaceuticals are always a problem. I have said in the past and must concede again today I am just not cut out for this part of the hobby.
KG
Did the stroll down McMicken just a little after 3; but only saw 1 out. Where is everyone? The only 1 I saw today; I decided to pass on as she was in an area I was not comfortable picking up. She was standing in what I call the quick cash scam lot. She was a WSW wearing a heavy black coat, looked might she might have a little asain in her. A little spinner body about 5'5-5'7. Anyone know who I may be talking about and had experience with? Someone pulled into the lot and picked her up. Just a little to busy of an area and to easy for LEO in my opinion.
Sounds like it could be Sweet Georgia Brown. Search this thread for more info.
Did the stroll down McMicken just a little after 3; but only saw 1 out. Where is everyone? The only 1 I saw today; I decided to pass on as she was in an area I was not comfortable picking up. She was standing in what I call the quick cash scam lot. She was a WSW wearing a heavy black coat, looked might she might have a little asain in her. A little spinner body about 5'5-5'7. Anyone know who I may be talking about and had experience with? Someone pulled into the lot and picked her up. Just a little to busy of an area and to easy for LEO in my opinion.
Nkykinkyguy,
Now, did you ever consider that she needed to take the drugs because she knew that it was YOU coming over. . . LOL.
Rog.
My Sunday meet with my streetscort did not materialize. It appears that she got her fun on before I was to meet her. She could barely hold a conversation on the phone. I took a pass and I think it will be a permanent pass.
I have to be honest; I do not do well in these types of situations. I clearly understand that S / W, streetscorts and Escorts can and do succumb to pharmaceutical addiction. I just have a very difficult time dealing with it when it is right in my face.
I personally have not had to deal with this issue as much in my dealings with Escorts. I have meet with an escort or two that clearly needed the money to get where she wanted to go, hence the very rushed session which I was more than OK with because I was very glad it was over.
But anytime that I have had any contact with a S / W or someone that does both. Pharmaceuticals are always a problem. I have said in the past and must concede again today I am just not cut out for this part of the hobby.
KG
Nkykinkyguy,
Now, did you ever consider that she needed to take the drugs because she knew that it was YOU coming over. . . LOL.
Rog. Damn that is cruel, perhaps it is accurate, but so very cruel, LOL.
Nkykinkyguy
01-11-11, 12:54
You may be right but I think that it had more to due with the fact I waited until 4:00 pm to see her instead of 11:00 am. Oh well either way I was left high and dry LOL!
KG.
Nkykinkyguy,
Now, did you ever consider that she needed to take the drugs because she knew that it was YOU coming over. . . LOL.
Rog.
Don't bring this dribble over here now guys. PM's please.
Respond to this via PM
Ky Guy 123
01-11-11, 23:39
Eh, in my opinion this latest back and forth still had valuable intel to glean, in that the lass was/is inconsistent in her facilities, and that earlier in the day might be better for getting the desired result of contacting her. :)
My thoughts.. :)
Jay
Don't bring this dribble over here now guys. PM's please.
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Mr Boombastic
01-12-11, 12:06
I had to laugh at that. It is all too common, and you got to expect it when using streetscorts.
I have had many SW's needing to get a hit, lick, whatever before seeing me, but they better already have it because I aint taken them to get it.
I have even let them do it while I was there, but each person reacts differently and some folks go crazy once they finish and some get extremely passionate. You just got to know your SW.
I had one pretty WSW name Christy, who I refuse to let do drugs before I got with her, because once she did she was more a problem than a pleasure.
I have had others who get very passionate like Pocahontas does, with me. She can be a handful with others, or without her hit, at times, most time.
Anyway that was FUNNY.
Damn that is cruel, perhaps it is accurate, but so very cruel, LOL.
Don't bring this dribble over here now guys. PM's please.
Respond to this via PMSorry ignore that. Was drunk and tried to delete but couldn't. Don't drink and post. .
-Nati
Recently, several of the boards in Cincinnati have turned into chat boards. This SW board, for instance. Getnati is right on the money. Chit-chat is best done via PM (as well as those missives that contain exact info on full names, digits, locations). We have seen a trend in which a few posters congratulate each other,"cute" exchanges occur, etc.
While I plead guilty that I have not made information-containing posts as frequently as before. There are multiple reasons, but I STILL value posts that specifically benefit mongers, and TRY to include information of value to mongers.
For instance, I consider even posts of failed cruises of value because mongers may want to expand their horizons. On the other hand, prudent technique should be described: i.e., while OTR has slim pickings these days, upper McM is better, but watch for LE who know the same info. While the D&D convenience store is very hot, you can make the appropriate nods, and turn onto a cross street for the SW to come to you.
Don't bring this dribble over here now guys. PM's please.
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Cintixtreme
01-13-11, 16:06
http://news.cincinnati.com/apps/pbcs.dll/gallery?Site=AB&Date=20110105&Category=ENT&ArtNo=101050805&Ref=PH&Params=Itemnr=1
Do you think Officer Deegan's ability to pose undercover might be slightly compromised by the show?
http://news.cincinnati.com/apps/pbcs.dll/gallery?Site=AB&Date=20110105&Category=ENT&ArtNo=101050805&Ref=PH&Params=Itemnr=1
Do you think Officer Deegan's ability to pose undercover might be slightly compromised by the show? I was just getting ready to post something regarding this subject. Should be a good show. Hope none of MF's end up in it LOL. It'll be interesting to see if anyone from the board recognizes her face from posing undercover. It was filmed all throughout this summer. I've never seen her though.
Should have trusted my initial instincts and played catch and release with this one. Unfortunately I did not and it was. 2 wasted on a DIY finish.
Found her at the bottom of Straight and thought she was a different dark haired beauty that I have lost contact with again. When she approached the car I realized it wasn't who I thought it was but she was cute and looked clean. When she got in she also smelled clean so we did our verification and then rolled to my spot for this area of town. She was thin, with dark hair to about her shoulder blades, and a cute face. But that is where the cuteness of this story ends.
This is what to watch out for in terms of the story that I got: Just found out today that she is pregnant. Has four other kids already ages 2 thru 7 and this will be the 5th. If the SW sitting next to you is named Tracey and you have heard this much immediately pull over and let her out because she will become "sick" and will not be able to perform as needed. She continued the act after things had wrapped up and had to recline her seat back and held her belly and moaned all the way to the drop on Linn where her pimp immediately converged on her and shook her down for the cash.
This is where I wanted to comment about rules. Had I followed the rule about services prior to payment this would not have happened, however, I have not found a SW yet that will go along with this. In their book of rules they are just as likely to become a victim of ripoff by doing so. I also could have offered half up front and probably would have avoided this as well or at least only out half as much. I will need to be more carefull about the denominations I am carrying the next time I pick up a new one.
And lastly, trust your instincts! Before we were even parked she commented about not feeling well. It was then that instinct kicked in and I thought about how a sick, preggo SW is not going to enjoy having little Cee tickling her tonsils and I should release her. I commented to her about taking her back but she quickly said she was feeling okay and would be fine. Should have taken her back anyway.
http://news.cincinnati.com/apps/pbcs.dll/gallery?Site=AB&Date=20110105&Category=ENT&ArtNo=101050805&Ref=PH&Params=Itemnr=1
Do you think Officer Deegan's ability to pose undercover might be slightly compromised by the show? I seen officer Colleen Deegan, short hair blonde, this past summer. She was on a break at the BP station on Hopple Street one Saturday night. I was right behind her in line at the Subway shop inside the BP station.
She could easily wear wigs and the right clothes and walk the streets and blend in and a lot of guys would stop.
The other officer was Tia Pearson and I seen her on McMicken in uniform.
Should be interesting show of the four. Wonder how much they'll show about OTR.
Watch out guys, never know if that new face is a fresh SW or undercover.
Harpo
Ky Guy 123
01-13-11, 23:39
I caught bits of pieces of the show as I was finishing up watching something else on the DVR (DVR was set to record it, so no worries on missing on my front). For anyone that does the SW thing, or frequents those parts of Cinci at least, methinks that this show would be a very good training tool to both hone your senses and see what types of scenarios that LE utilizes from their own perspective. Something to think about. :)
Jay
I was just getting ready to post something regarding this subject. Should be a good show. Hope none of MF's end up in it LOL. It'll be interesting to see if anyone from the board recognizes her face from posing undercover. It was filmed all throughout this summer. I've never seen her though.
Who wouldn't want this one under his covers? Amazing that Cinti LE would agree to this "hotties of the police department" TV show. Wonder what the fallout will be.
And where did they find this looker! Saw her pic last night on TV, and suspected a ringer.
If a prospective SW looks too good to be true. You know the rest.
http://news.cincinnati.com/apps/pbcs.dll/gallery?Site=AB&Date=20110105&Category=ENT&ArtNo=101050805&Ref=PH&Params=Itemnr=1
Do you think Officer Deegan's ability to pose undercover might be slightly compromised by the show?
Member #3995
01-14-11, 08:42
Wow she could cuff me anytime! LOL.
Who wouldn't want this one under his covers? Amazing that Cinti LE would agree to this "hotties of the police department" TV show. Wonder what the fallout will be.
And where did they find this looker! Saw her pic last night on TV, and suspected a ringer.
If a prospective SW looks too good to be true. You know the rest.
I'm going to be in your fair city for three day next week and was wondering if there is any action close to where I'm staying. Blue Ash-Cornell Road. I'm a monger from the warmer climate of Orlando. You can verify me on that forum.
Pm me if there is hope that I might be able to hook with with anyone.
Thanks.
Rbw2001
Ky Guy 123
01-14-11, 13:07
Of course ya all realize that there is probably a 99% chance that she's either reading this herself right now, or one of her colleagues is printing off some choice tidbits from this forum and leaving it on her desk. LOL She even made a comment ON the show that she's seemingly single, stating what was it.. "I'm not your normal female, with tatoos seen and unseen, with 2 harleys, and not the type to bring home to 'Mom'. Nah, I'm really a sweet/nice woman." Or something thereabouts. So, who knows.. maybe one of you lads out there that's actually looking for real love and not the rental kind can sweep her off her feet, and distract her from her calling a little bit. I know that if I were involved in any of the areas of expertise that she resided professionally, I'd not want her after ME. She's far too hungry for her work... I've seen that look a thousand times when I was in the EMT field. Those that partake... watch the show, learn from it, and extrapolate beyond it to consider what changes LE has made on account OF this show being done. They'll change their habits up I wager. Be safe!
Jay
Wow she could cuff me anytime! LOL.
Here is the WLWT story on the "Police Women of Cincinnati" TV program to be aired in November:
http://www.wlwt.com/entertainment/26474994/detail.html
While all four were interesting, one in particular "captured" my attention. If they put her on the street, beware all mongers for LTGTBT [Looks too good to be true.]! I did not catch that any of these girls might be used as bait on the streets, but if I cruised by them, I would look twice, but pass by three times. Note that Deegan did participate in prostitution stings:
"Officer Colleen Deegan: An Iraq War Veteran, Colleen is one of the only women in the Cincinnati Police Department's elite Central Vice Control Section, and spends her days working with a group of pro-active officers, targeting dangerous criminals with strategic undercover operations. Whether she's tackling drug dealers, or going undercover as a prostitute, Colleen is always a force to be reckoned with. Her unrelenting attitude has earned her a reputation as one of the toughest officers in the city."
BTW, while I think it is wrong to put random faces of women on the forum, if they become TV police-celebrities, I think they are fair game, including names which have already been broadcast.
P.S. I obvious have other screen captures if anyone wants to see them. Also, I had an adventure trying to post pix. At one point had six attachments! Have tried to delete four extraneous. Conclusion, use caution when trying to post pix with the new software...
P.P.S. At this early point, only one (the collage) of the images shows up in the PhotoGallery. Why???
Who wouldn't want this one under his covers? Amazing that Cinti LE would agree to this "hotties of the police department" TV show. Wonder what the fallout will be.
And where did they find this looker! Saw her pic last night on TV, and suspected a ringer.
If a prospective SW looks too good to be true. You know the rest.
I'm going to be in your fair city for three day next week and was wondering if there is any action close to where I'm staying. Blue Ash-Cornell Road. I'm a monger from the warmer climate of Orlando. You can verify me on that forum.
Pm me if there is hope that I might be able to hook with with anyone.
Thanks.
Rbw2001It's got to be the best pickings for hobbyists for its size in the country. Cincinnati is one of the worst. You should bring some providers with you.
Went to see my girl Mary again, and let me tell you she gets better every time. She is so damn sweet and cute and performance is AMAZING. Could have done without the accidental NON-lubricated condom incident though! Ouch. Got to say she's now my ATF. I just can't get enough of running my fingers through her magnificent hair while she artistically takes care of "Mr. Happy".
Oh and BTW, one of you a$$holes told her about me saying she was one of the best BBBJ's I've ever had? Thanks a lot big mouths, I hope you sit right in a glob of my DNA if you ever go over to her place LOL! Nah. J / k. She was very flattered / appreciative of the comment and returned the favor KINDLY! Thanks.
If you aren't a verified senior hobbyist, don't even think about asking for digits. QUIT ASKING.
Look you are dealing with SW's who deal with dealers / pimps who will stomp their ass for little or nothing. And some of these men are damn crazy, even when you don't have to personally deal with them. So why in the hell would you think some of these weak SW, especially the WSW's would not try to play you. You are in an area where basically anything goes and often it does. Come on people, if you did this kind of thinking at your job you'd get time off, without pay, and in this case, you did.
If you are tried of giving away "FREE MONEY" then by no means go against the rules with an unknown, untrusted, and untested. It is a game with them, and you are the SUCKER, and getting your Free Money is the score and the most money they get from you suckers, the more they will do it. Then as they tell others they get the nerve to try it to. And I t mean try it, as risky as it will be.
Most SW's don't want to the trouble and don't want to take the risk, but when pimps & dealers want their money, and you don't have any to begin with due to drugs or whatever, then you will try anything. And if it works, they'll try it over and over.
Here is the SOLUTION: If they tag you as a sucker then chances are you are. These girls are extremely afraid of getting their Ass's Kicked, and if you look like you will do just that, they will be extremely reluctant to try anything. Yea you want to be a nice guy, but you are in a trade which nice guys mainly will finish last. You have to let them know that you are tougher than they think you are. I have put many an SW's no matter who in her place, and have grabbed a few by the hair and told them I will break their nose, if they don't get out of my car. I am willing to take it to a higher level and once they know this, they spread the word on the incident. Others may not know who YOU are, but they have heard what happened.
White men are the main victims of scammers because SW's know you will take the path of least resistance, and back away, instead of fight, plus they know chance are you are married, and don't want to answer anything to the wife, and they think most white men can't fight anyway, and are afraid of their shadows. Often times you act just like that, and it is a Catch 22, situation.
These kinds scammers look for men they deem as Soft, and can take advantage of them. They will try anyone, but they look for the easy mark. That is often why SW's won't go with everyone. If they think you look or act tough, they will avoid doing the scam, and often will deliver service. Once they get your MONEY and won't deliver service, then be prepared to grab something of theirs, especially their cell phone, whether it is on or off. I have done this, several times and have even made them give me my money back, and an extra $5, to get their cell phone back. This was in the early days of this forum, and this site. I have done even more in my very early days. I have even got into fights with their pimps over money and service, in a rip-off situation.
Pimps don't want conflict, or disrespect, but more than anything they don't want the POLICE, intervention. That is very bad for business. And since we don't have real Pimps here, it is more like a boyfriend, bodyguard, leech than a real pimp.
If you are not prepare to call a bluff, then street action is not for you. If you look soft, they will treat you hard, and if you act / look easy, then you can fill in the blanks.
Senior Member have no excuse. None! We all know better, even among our trusted regulars, we have to still be cautious.
Drugs, Addiction, and Money make for Strange Bed Follows.
Lastly, if you are going to give folks an SW's digits then you need to give them a name and specific instructions. If you don't they will do something stupid everytime.
Only give digit to people you know and trust.
Only People You Trust!
Should have trusted my initial instincts and played catch and release with this one. Unfortunately I did not and it was. 2 wasted on a DIY finish.
Found her at the bottom of Straight and thought she was a different dark haired beauty that I have lost contact with again. When she approached the car I realized it wasn't who I thought it was but she was cute and looked clean. When she got in she also smelled clean so we did our verification and then rolled to my spot for this area of town. She was thin, with dark hair to about her shoulder blades, and a cute face. But that is where the cuteness of this story ends.
This is what to watch out for in terms of the story that I got: Just found out today that she is pregnant. Has four other kids already ages 2 thru 7 and this will be the 5th. If the SW sitting next to you is named Tracey and you have heard this much immediately pull over and let her out because she will become "sick" and will not be able to perform as needed. She continued the act after things had wrapped up and had to recline her seat back and held her belly and moaned all the way to the drop on Linn where her pimp immediately converged on her and shook her down for the cash.
This is where I wanted to comment about rules. Had I followed the rule about services prior to payment this would not have happened, however, I have not found a SW yet that will go along with this. In their book of rules they are just as likely to become a victim of ripoff by doing so. I also could have offered half up front and probably would have avoided this as well or at least only out half as much. I will need to be more carefull about the denominations I am carrying the next time I pick up a new one.
And lastly, trust your instincts! Before we were even parked she commented about not feeling well. It was then that instinct kicked in and I thought about how a sick, preggo SW is not going to enjoy having little Cee tickling her tonsils and I should release her. I commented to her about taking her back but she quickly said she was feeling okay and would be fine. Should have taken her back anyway.
Hey guys.
Just took a little look-see in the OTR. Looks like McMik is ripe with some little girls, some of which I recognize from the descriptions here. I was just looking but, to those so inclined, it might be worth a trip.
One of you mentioned Natasha a while back. My experience was exactly the same as the one described. I was really keeping an eye out for her. Lost in action I guess. I would bet she be contacting everyone once she's out of lockup somewhere. (Just a guess on my part)
Traveler1964
01-20-11, 09:58
Went through the trail on Monday, saw a few, picked up Wanda. She gave a great BBBJ w / cim for. 2 donation.
Hey guys.
Just took a little look-see in the OTR. Looks like McMik is ripe with some little girls, some of which I recognize from the descriptions here. I was just looking but, to those so inclined, it might be worth a trip.
One of you mentioned Natasha a while back. My experience was exactly the same as the one described. I was really keeping an eye out for her. Lost in action I guess. I would bet she be contacting everyone once she's out of lockup somewhere. (Just a guess on my part) Hmmm. I was out about an hour earlier. There were several BSW on Elm. The only thing on McMik was one pretty good looking, but unknown, WSW, at the bottom of Straight St, and several people who looked suspiciously out of place. I rolled through 20min later and the WSW was getting hassled by CPD. The "out of place" people were nowhere to be found. I've seen undercover LE in this area several times now. Be extra careful.
So I'm sure you all have seen the latest episode of Police Women of Cincinnati. If not, you might want to. They have a segment highlighted for busting SW's. It's interesting to hear that most of the girls are street smart enough to avoid the soliciting charge, but they get hit with loitering to solicit instead. How does LE prove within reasonable doubt that they are IN FACT doing that. Then again, we all know they don't have the funds or knowledge to fight it.
One of the SW's (in pink) is pictured on the board servicing one of our fellow members. Not a "looker" but always out.
The other one (cuter one) was familiar as well. Guess she had felony warrants though. Wonder what they were. If anyone has her name, PM me. I've seen her out in UPH a few times as well. Not anytime recent though. May have been before she was busted. If anyone has info for her, I'm curious as to how the service was and if she can be gotten a hold of.
Mr Boombastic
01-23-11, 20:57
I can't count how many warrants these SW's have on "No Show Warrants" for court. You are talking about trying to get a drug addict to show up in the early morning for court, on a bogus charge they are pissed off about anyway. Then they have to find a way to get to court, and most really don't LIVE downtown, nearby, but might trick nearby. That is why they get Loitering with intent to Solicit. They are just hanging around in the same area, hour after hour, and have no living address in the area, or even a car to move around, to get anywhere. And this is a lite charge, so they can't get a public defender, who can beat that charge. It doesn't help have previous Soliciting charges against them too.
I saw the second episode last week and saw the heavy set BSW they arrested in the sting truck. I have seen her before. Nice attitude, but nothing I'd ever pick up. Too Miss Piggy for me.
Often when I have picked up a few they have had to ride very low in the seat to avoid being spotted, by LE, because they have warrant for "No Shows." It 's just STUPID, careless, and dumb. But we are not talking about everyday rational people, making good decent life decisions.
Back during the Summer I saw one night a camera crew with the CPD, near the corner of McMik & Vine, with the lights & camera rolling on a few WSW's and a dude nearby. I thought it was them filming an episode of "COPS", but it might have been the P. W. Of Cincy.
I thought it to be unusual, but when no one else saw it but myself and a few friends of mine, I dismissed it.
I also think I have seen the two white cops on the show as decoys on Walnut & Liberty. They were Hot Looking at the corners, and if you know the rules you knew they were decoys.
SW's right now are starved for money, because, the ones that never have minutes on their cells, are now managing to have enough to call you to see if you are available. Amazing!
Still, they can't keep enough minute for a return call only a few days later.
The streets are too cold to be standing in to wait for a pickup if any, and the layers of clothes, hooded faces, and more, make it too hard to see what you are getting into. And some of the SW's are not keeping themselves the freshest, if I can calm that. A few I picked up, smell very MUSKY to me, and I let them back off after telling them so. Of course they said they are staying at a Flop House. Not exactly a place for cleanliness & safety.
Once it warms up, it will take a little while for them to come out of hiding, and hit the streets again. And don't be fooled by the budget cut. The LE will not miss a beat on arresting SW's, and Patrolling the streets.
And if the PWofC is a hit then look for more "Lights, Cameras, and Action.
Nkykinkyguy
01-26-11, 19:05
The Guide to Escort Hobbying is now posted to the Rules of Escort Mongering Thread. This version is the compilation of all of the many comments from members, the blue print from Harpo reposted by Stimulus and the information gleaned from other similar list on other sites similar in nature to ours.
We ask that all members review this guide and please post all comments, addition, deletion and change suggestions in the Rants. Raves and Opinions thread. This will keep the Guide thread from getting clogged up and make it easier for new members to access.
I know there has been an abundance of comments already regarding this Guide. Please remember this guide is being posted so that as veteran hobbyist we will be able to point the new member to a document that will help them get started. This will alleviate veteran members from the redundant task of explaining the hobby repeatedly or just telling nubies to RTFF to get them off our backs. I feel it is easier and makes more sense to give them the tools they need rather than tell them to read and good luck. I know that there are many veteran hobbyists here that do go out of their way to help nubies and I feel they should be congratulated. I also feel that this guide will make it easier on all, nubies and veterans alike.
KG
Long time monger (probably over 0 years).
Picked up Angela near Riddle and McMicken. Very nice time, no evidence of drug involvement, but I could be wrong. Performed the appropriate checks, then went to hotel room. Kind face, very nA.
Attitude (most important to me) : 9.
Appearance (cleanliness, grooming, etc,) : 8.
Performance: 8.
Pleasure index (akin to value of experience) : 9.
I will certainly repeat. Joerun
Member #3995
01-27-11, 08:34
Wow 0 years is a long time! LOL.
Long time monger (probably over 0 years).
Picked up Angela near Riddle and McMicken. Very nice time, no evidence of drug involvement, but I could be wrong. Performed the appropriate checks, then went to hotel room. Kind face, very nA.
Attitude (most important to me) : 9.
Appearance (cleanliness, grooming, etc,) : 8.
Performance: 8.
Pleasure index (akin to value of experience) : 9.
I will certainly repeat. Joerun
Wow 0 years is a long time! LOL.Be careful, I don't think any humor is allowed on the streetwalker thread.
Be careful, I don't think any humor is allowed on the streetwalker thread.I appreciate the humor; I meant 10 years. Joerun
Blkharvard
01-29-11, 15:47
Its so hot out there. Just the end of the line girls now. I saw one girl that was a 8 or 9 on a civi scale. I laughed and drove on by. Evening officer.
I hate Cincy.
Anyone have any luck on the north side of town north of the lateral south of Ronald Regan?
Its so hot out there. Just the end of the line girls now. I saw one girl that was a 8 or 9 on a civi scale. I laughed and drove on by. Evening officer.
I hate Cincy. This is a slow and tough time for the street cruising. Right now it's a few and knowing the right time to check certain areas. Think of ice fishing and having plenty of patience and waiting for that first bite. That's how it is during the winter time.
Harpo
Steve McQween
01-31-11, 11:47
Rode through Covington yesterday around 3pm and didn't see any girls out.
Drove across the river and ran through LPH a couple of times. Saw a decent looking blond girl who gave me the nod as I rolled past, but Uncle LEO was out I force so I didn't make the swoop. She could have easily been a decoy, and I do not take chances!
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