Secret Benefits

[Rcl 44]

With SA becoming crap, I'd like to start a thread on this. First question. Do you guys offer up $ amounts in your opening message / s.

[Rubtug21]

I'm on secret benefits. You have to buy credits and use those credits to send messages, read messages, access secret albums, and so on. You can but it's best to bring up PPM during the meet and greet. I still think escorts are better than sugarbabies.

[Rcl 44]

I'm on secret benefits. You have to buy credits and use those credits to send messages, read messages, access secret albums, and so on. You can but it's best to bring up PPM during the meet and greet. I still think escorts are better than sugarbabies.I agree with you completely but the unreasonable expectations are ridiculous. One wanted compensation for meeting for drinks / lunch; others flat out ask how much you're interested in spending. I ignore those, how do you handle them? If its just a transaction, I don't understand the need to go through all the work of using the site. Ultimately, S. Florida has gone massively downhill in good, reasonable options.

[Bake N Cookies]

I agree with you completely but the unreasonable expectations are ridiculous. One wanted compensation for meeting for drinks / lunch; others flat out ask how much you're interested in spending. I ignore those, how do you handle them? If its just a transaction, I don't understand the need to go through all the work of using the site. Ultimately, S. Florida has gone massively downhill in good, reasonable options.I've had a account for over 5 years. I've found that at least there are real girls at the other end, and very rarely getting scam messages, which happens constantly on Tinder, FB dating, and sometimes even Match, where the latter are generally geared more to traditional dating anyway.

In regards to expectations of the girls, I've found it to be all over the board, with pros and cons to all. Just need to do the due diligence with the right kind of time involved. In many ways, the basic laws of humanity will apply. Ie. The hotter the girl, and also the dillusional entitlement from older attractive women in their 30's and 40's will apply. Ie. If the girl feels empowered with her own life and career success, along with the real Pro Sugar babies that once scored a billionaire for some jet setting, they will tend to default to the highest offer they ever had; often with the classic line of "I know my worth. " Its their self-proclaimed prophecy of hypergamy, without the acceptance of realizing how the bell curve of SMV goes down hill after 30.

Upon the first online connection, which comes with a message exchange for 10 pre-paid credits to simply open that ability. I will exchange a few genuine notes, which takes some craft to know how much and how little dialogue is needed to eventually get her number, which is the entire goal thus far. Then its off the site from there.

NOTE of Concern: Do not get into arrangement specifics that involves anything to do with $ or acts of sexuality. These sites have filters, bots, and moderators looking for this kind of language, just to cover their ass of promoting anything illegal. That's how I got banned from Seeking, and it wasn't even me that wrote the language, more like the girl offering a gift amount for an illegal act. Then I replied saying I'd rather discuss this privately, but I got the boot for life. Go Figure!

Seeking was actually a better site, as its globally the most popular. Different fee model with what was $90 a month for unlimited messaging.

In regards to the SB girls in general. Usually the younger ones in the 21 to 28 range is the sweet spot. Then I look for the "down to earth" types, rather than the bikini model types with pics on a yacht or leaning on a high end sports car. The latter are gold diggers and usually never a fond companion anyway. On the opposite spectrum is those that have zero experience, often the 18-20 year olds, which I'm convinced are just posting profiles with their girlfriends at a slumber party to see what kind of attention they can get. So if you do spend the credits, its unlikely to get any kind of response, thus a waste of time and money.

Once you get the number, it's not done from that point either. So many in that gen Z range grew up with a cell phone next to their baby bottle. So texting is all they can relate too. Call me old fashioned, but I'm one that feels its a necessity to have at least one solid voice conversation, before I would schedule my time to offer a meet and greet. Many at this point will not filter into a good reason to decide I should meet in person; all for various reasons. The ones that expect a payment to just meet, are automatically excluded. Some are true professionals, like strippers or career SB's and may even suggest a price schedule up front. Those type will often have super high expectations, and not my type for my desire to have a GFE to really hang out with occasionally for a situationship. The phone call stage is all about establishing a common interest, agreeing to have a no obligations meet and greet, then discussing mutual schedules and it should happen within a few days, or at the latest a week, to keep the sparks alive. I never reach a situationship, until I've met in person, and this is for so many reasons I won't even expand upon here. There is no replacement for eye contact, body language, personal vibe energy, and this goes both ways.

The Meet and Greet. This is where you find out if the right chemistry is felt together. If your psych radar is in tune, you'll know if there is a genuine attraction, or its about to be a totally transactional exchange. That's when you do you. Picking the place for a M&G will often be best suggested on the phone call and follow up texts. Travel abilities, hosting abilities, food preferences if its at a restaurant, and it let it be known that nothing needs to happen on the same night. However, the best ones I've met have always been horny and want to get laid the same night. So make contingency plans for that. , though don't always count on it. This is where so many women are wired differently. Some just want to feel safe with you, and those are usually the best types. Yet, if they like you, and they put a profile up on SB, they are likely horny too. Many times you get this vibe on the phone call.

That's my take on things. I'd look forward to other inputs.

[Rcl 44]

I've had a account for over 5 years. I've found that at least there are real girls at the other end, and very rarely getting scam messages, which happens constantly on Tinder, FB dating, and sometimes even Match, where the latter are generally geared more to traditional dating anyway.

In regards to expectations of the girls, I've found it to be all over the board, with pros and cons to all. Just need to do the due diligence with the right kind of time involved. In many ways, the basic laws of humanity will apply. Ie. The hotter the girl, and also the dillusional entitlement from older attractive women in their 30's and 40's will apply. Ie. If the girl feels empowered with her own life and career success, along with the real Pro Sugar babies that once scored a billionaire for some jet setting, they will tend to default to the highest offer they ever had; often with the classic line of "I know my worth. " Its their self-proclaimed prophecy of hypergamy, without the acceptance of realizing how the bell curve of SMV goes down hill after 30.

Upon the first online connection, which comes with a message exchange for 10 pre-paid credits to simply open that ability. I will exchange a few genuine notes, which takes some craft to know how much and how little dialogue is needed to eventually get her number, which is the entire goal thus far. Then its off the site from there.

NOTE of Concern: Do not get into arrangement specifics that involves anything to do with $ or acts of sexuality. These sites have filters, bots, and moderators looking for this kind of language, just to cover their ass of promoting anything illegal. That's how I got banned from Seeking, and it wasn't even me that wrote the language, more like the girl offering a gift amount for an illegal act. Then I replied saying I'd rather discuss this privately, but I got the boot for life. Go Figure!

Seeking was actually a better site, as its globally the most popular. Different fee model with what was $90 a month for unlimited messaging.

In regards to the SB girls in general. Usually the younger ones in the 21 to 28 range is the sweet spot. Then I look for the "down to earth" types, rather than the bikini model types with pics on a yacht or leaning on a high end sports car. The latter are gold diggers and usually never a fond companion anyway. On the opposite spectrum is those that have zero experience, often the 18-20 year olds, which I'm convinced are just posting profiles with their girlfriends at a slumber party to see what kind of attention they can get. So if you do spend the credits, its unlikely to get any kind of response, thus a waste of time and money.

Once you get the number, it's not done from that point either. So many in that gen Z range grew up with a cell phone next to their baby bottle. So texting is all they can relate too. Call me old fashioned, but I'm one that feels its a necessity to have at least one solid voice conversation, before I would schedule my time to offer a meet and greet. Many at this point will not filter into a good reason to decide I should meet in person; all for various reasons. The ones that expect a payment to just meet, are automatically excluded. Some are true professionals, like strippers or career SB's and may even suggest a price schedule up front. Those type will often have super high expectations, and not my type for my desire to have a GFE to really hang out with occasionally for a situationship. The phone call stage is all about establishing a common interest, agreeing to have a no obligations meet and greet, then discussing mutual schedules and it should happen within a few days, or at the latest a week, to keep the sparks alive. I never reach a situationship, until I've met in person, and this is for so many reasons I won't even expand upon here. There is no replacement for eye contact, body language, personal vibe energy, and this goes both ways.

The Meet and Greet. This is where you find out if the right chemistry is felt together. If your psych radar is in tune, you'll know if there is a genuine attraction, or its about to be a totally transactional exchange. That's when you do you. Picking the place for a M&G will often be best suggested on the phone call and follow up texts. Travel abilities, hosting abilities, food preferences if its at a restaurant, and it let it be known that nothing needs to happen on the same night. However, the best ones I've met have always been horny and want to get laid the same night. So make contingency plans for that. , though don't always count on it. This is where so many women are wired differently. Some just want to feel safe with you, and those are usually the best types. Yet, if they like you, and they put a profile up on SB, they are likely horny too. Many times you get this vibe on the phone call.

That's my take on things. I'd look forward to other inputs.Thank you. This is one of the best contributions on this topic probably anywhere. Let me add my 2 cents; if my first message (after verifying that it's a real person and there are many ways to do it which are listed in Bake and Cookies write up) is something like let's meet for drinks / lunch as a start and transition to mutually beneficial fun, I'm taken aback at the unbelievably low response rate. This, along with situations where it had progressed to agreeing to meet, where she says either she'll come to me or I go to her because she knows too many people and so doesn't want to be seen in a restaurant. This is no different than an escort and defeats the purpose of spending the time, money and general aggravation on the site. So, my conclusion at this point is I'm probably looking for a needle in a haystack but it helps me set the right expectations.

[ChuckBukowski]

I've had an account for over 5 years. I've found that at least there are real girls at the other end, and very rarely getting scam messages, which happens constantly on Tinder, FB dating, and sometimes even Match, where the latter are generally geared more to traditional dating anyway.

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This is a pretty good write up. Only thing I disagree is I personally don't care if we speak on the phone or not. Lots of the younger ladies don't care for it and even the 'older' 30-somethings don't care for it either.

I've used SB in the past and while I've had some success, I really don't care for the credit system they use. Anyone who's done the sugar dating thing before knows how communication, or lack there of, is the biggest hurdle. I personally wouldn't want to depend on a credit system since you have to use 10 (credits to make the initial message or reply.

Anyways my tips are get their number asap so you can talk outside of the sites (sites can be real picky and ban you for even hinting at doing PPMs), and that it's pseudo dating so treat it as such. I don't jump into the whole transactional thing right away but I try to get to know them a little bit. See how they are, what they're looking to do, etc. Now does it work for others who do jump straight to business? I'm sure it does. But all I can say is that I've ran into girls who clearly aren't pros whatsoever and have had a great time with them. You can't say that if you stick strictly with escorts. Likewise I've run into pros or semi pros and have had a good time with them too. It's the nice thing about the whole scene: you get a little bit of everything. The biggest knock on it is the fact that everything takes time. It's not like a service where I can contact them and be balls deep into one of their ladies just hours later.