RobovDaslav
01-25-25, 19:26
A vast majority of the "Anyone seen this girl" posts are looking for info on ads that ultimately turn out to be fakes / scams. Of course, that's one of the many purposes of these forums, but they can really clog up the feeds, especially considering they often go unanswered in the end. Even when there is some kind of reply, in most cases, it's just "I'm interested in her too" comments. A lot of that could be cut down by using some measures of common sense, intuition, and gut vibes.
And that's why I wanted to write this guide. It's easy to say mongers should be more mindful of the ads they pursuit, but that's easier said than done, especially for newer Mongers or older mongers not accustomed to mongering in the digital era.
Purpose of this Guide:
To determine if a given Skip The Games ad is fake or not. Everything discussed in this guide may, and probably will, be applicable with other escort hosting sites (I. E. Tryst, TER, eroticmonkey, escortalligator / listcrawler, etc) but, I'm structuring this guide based specifically on STG's format, as that is the most commonly posted ad site for GR.
This guide is not intended to provide means to determine the quality, expected attractiveness, bait-and-switch likelihood (meaning you WILL be seeing a provider, just possibly not the person advertised), pricing, or trustworthiness of any given provider. That information is what these boards should primarily be an exchange for, in my opinion. This guide will focus solely on determining the likelihood that the ad in question is a scammer looking to take money with no intentions of meeting. Determining if a provider is worth seeing or not is too subjective and varied an experience to fit neatly within any guidelines. Although, if this guide proves useful, I may write more guides detailing my thought process in determining some of those factors.
With that being said, however, determining a scam isn't an exact science either. This hobby is still largely seen as a no-no, at least here in the USA, so we don't have any governmental agencies and standards that all escort ads can be held to. This guide is just one monger's pattern recognition over a few years of experience condensed into a few paragraphs and bullet points for other mongers to take into consideration. The red flags I will talk about later are just that, warning signs. Nothing should be taken as a hard and fast rule on its own. As I said before, there is no governing standard that all ads must abide by, so any one given red flag, won't always be an instant 'Yay' or 'Nay'.
For Example; Fake / Stolen Photos are largely considered the greatest red flag by mongers looking into trying new-to-them providers. However some of the most highly regarded providers here in GR (eg. Lauren and CJ) have been using fake images for literal years. They've been at it longer than I've been a monger, so I don't know how they initially established their reputations, but at this point, they speak for themselves and mongers that have seen them (myself included) agree that the fakes are still close enough approximates to the real woman, so they can get away with using fake photos while also getting local monger endorsement.
These warnings and red flags should be used in concert with each other to build more of a "Riskiness" profile that a monger can measure the ad against to decide if it's worth posting to the board.
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Pre Requisites:
This guide is going to assume you know and have already done basic info gathering:
- Googling phone Numbers to find other ads.
- Reverse Image Searching Photos (google lens or TinEye) to see if taken from porn sites or OnlyFans models.
- Searching Forums using either names or key words from the ad.
These are what I consider the absolute bare minimum amount of foot work that should be done before posting the ad to the boards. Info won't always turn up, but If I see an inquiry about a girl that has been reviewed to hell and back on the forums, or google the number and find ads from other escort hosting site, or reverse image search (even with Googles current worst iteration of Google Lens) and get multiple porn site hits, I will absolutely refuse to answer, because that says that the poster has just not tried at all. Crowd sourcing answers from a community is fine, using the forums as a personal, information gathering task force is not.
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The guide:
I will be splitting up the criteria I look for across the 5 main sections of a given STG ad: Title, Photos, Provider Description / Info, The Bio, Services Provided.
Each criteria will have a weight score associated with it on a 0 - 10 scale. 0 meaning it doesn't factor into my process at all, 10 meaning if it's off, then I consider the ad dead in the water, and 5 meaning it should be taken in consideration with other flags. It can also be looked at as 0%-100% of ads I've found triggering this Red Flag that also end up being scams.
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Title:
- Generic or no identifiable / searchable key words: 2.
Annoying as all hell to try and search when the ad just says something like "Cum to me" or "Hey there", but more an indicator of laziness than it is scam worthy.
- Excessive use of Emojis: 7.
Using emojis is fine, but {} punctuating $ every % word # with + an | Emoji * or () symbol is usually a tip off to something being a foot.
- Fake Ages: 1.
Even most of my favorite providers over the years have rarely used real ages. Off ages is more used by providers to get more clients than scammers.
- Young Ages: 8.
Most providers trying to play on "youthfulness" will pick a "young" age like 21 - 23 because most mongers aren't willing to risk the jailbait. Ads posting as 18/19 are usually used by scammers to trap oldies desperate for someone "young and hot".
- Structured more like a Personal Ad from a News Paper: 9.
"Hot Divorced Mom", "Lonely Widow", "Sexy College Girl", or anything that sounds like the lead in to a porn film fantasy is usually a good indicator to a scam.
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Photos:
- A Snapchat Code pic: 9
There are some girls that do include a snapchat code either in the ad or added to some photos, but if one of the photos is just a snapchat code and no number present in the ad, that's more than likely a scammer attempting to lure you to an app that automatically deletes any evidence of the exchange
- Fake / Reused / Stolen Photos: 9.
Like stated above, this is probably the number 1 factor that leads me to believe an ad is fake. Only reason it doesn't get a 10 on the scale, is because known trusted providers I have seen use fake pics as well. Privacy is a definite concern for the women advertising, but fake pictures is not the best way to protect that privacy. Unless the rest of the ad is squeaky clean, as far as red/green flags go, and the girl has been seen and reviewed before, this is a pretty obvious tell.
- Professional / Extremely High Quality: 8.
Kind of goes along with the Fake pics point above. Not necessarily referring to artsy or posed selfie photos, but pictures that are clearly being taken with insanely expensive cameras by someone with professional experience on well thought out sets or backdrops is a rarity with the women that post on STG. Not impossible, as some like Sofia Zaragoza and other High End Escorts, and even some local scene girls like Angel aka Exotic Beauty or Pixie, will have pro / paid photoshoots to lean on, but they will also have a prior reputation or a price tag to match the quality.
- AI Altered / Created Pics: 8.
Has only been popping up on the scene for me as of recent, so still building a case around it. For now, I lean towards the same feeling as Fake pics, and the fact that scammers have been using AI in a lot of spaces doesn't help. But I also recognize that it's a new thing that many girls will probably see more like photo filters than downright deception, even if it is.
- Heavily Filtered: 2.
Scammers will more often than not just find hot girls to post as it's much faster with less effort, but there's been more than a couple instances I've seen of scammers using filters to try and throw off reverse image search engines. Pretty rare, but happens.
- Face / Tattoos covered over: 5.
Another one that gets kind of murky because of providers attempts to maintain some level of discretion when posting. Scammers do it to throw off image searches, but girls also do it to keep some level of anonymity, so it's mostly a coin flip.
- Head / Face Cropped out: 8.
Any girl hiding her face will usually use either the method above or just hide her face from the camera when taking the picture. The head being cropped out of the shot is a good indicator of a stolen photo that's been edited and cropped to make it harder to reverse search.
- Images not of a person at all: 0.
I've seen this only a few times and never with scam posts.
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Provider Description / Info:
- Physical Descriptions don't match photos (Race / Hair Color / Height / Weight / Measurements): 7.
Other than weight, most providers usually do a good job at keeping the descriptions accurate to their photos. Having Race set to Asian with pics of what is clearly a black girl, or Red Hair for pics of a blonde girl, or Breasts set to Large for a girl that barely fills a B cup are usual give aways that the ad isn't made by an actual provider.
- Lists more than 3 races/ethnicities: 6
This is more often a method used by 1 "leader" that posts for a stable of girls, which is suspicious on it's own, but can also be used by scammers to get their ads in as many filtered searches as possible.
- Location is very broad or not a location: 9.
"Incall / Outcall", "MI", "Downtown", "Wherever you want me". Some very very rare cases where this is used by real providers, but most always a tip off that the person doesn't plan on ever meeting up.
- Outcall only: 4.
There definitely are girls that can only do or prefer outcalls, but outcall only makes it a lot easier for a scammer to convince you to send a deposit to secure a date. I don't do outcall personally, but something I'd be wary of when looking over the rest of the ad.
- Forms of accepted payment includes Everything or even just WeChat / Crypto: 9.
Listing every individual Credit Card Company, Alipay, WeChat and Crypto is a dead give away for me.
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The Bio:
- Bad / ESL Grammar: 9.
Overseas scammers will often still trip up their wording when trying to create these posts. Bad spelling isn't rare with some of the girls that make up the escort scene, but the non English speaker wording is pretty easy to spot.
- Uses the phrase "Sex Styles" or other weird wording: 10.
Besides asian agencies, Probably the only time that I will say this is 100% a scammer. Just like the bad grammar / wording above, non English speaking scammers will attempt to create colorful wording and that's when weird phrases like "Sex Style" comes up.
- Advertises Bare Back Full Service: 7.
There are a few girls that advertise BB, but that usually comes along with a special menu pricing for it (Shelby Dodge for example). BB just listed along with other "Sex Styles" is a good indicator of an attempted scam.
- Phone number isn't local to the area or state: 7.
Travelers do come through from time to time, but they also advertise that they are travelling and mongers can search from there. A girl that has been advertising in the same place for a while, but uses a number with an area code that isn't even from the state (I.E. GR area but a 725 number) is often not a real.
- Adamantly Requires a deposit: 9.
Unfortunately for providers that do use deposits as a form of safety, deposits are far more used by scammers to land an easy pay day. Real providers will often have other forms of verification that will suffice without requiring just a deposit.
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Services Provided:
- Includes Every Option available for STG: 9.
There are some definite freaks that advertise on STG, but it's pretty rare for them to advertise all of the acts they'll do only in this section without any mention of either "No Rules / Limits" in the bio as well with prices. 'Watersports Receiving', 'Greek', and 'Will Entertain Women / Couples' all featured together on a large list, though not impossible, is usually a good chance of being a scam.
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I do hope this guide is at least somewhat useful for mongers going forward. It's by no means exhaustive and I'm sure there's some other indicators that other mongers have noticed themselves, but this should be a good starting point for new mongers just getting into trolling through ads.
Happy and Safe Hunting for all, and as always, Your Mileage May Vary.
And that's why I wanted to write this guide. It's easy to say mongers should be more mindful of the ads they pursuit, but that's easier said than done, especially for newer Mongers or older mongers not accustomed to mongering in the digital era.
Purpose of this Guide:
To determine if a given Skip The Games ad is fake or not. Everything discussed in this guide may, and probably will, be applicable with other escort hosting sites (I. E. Tryst, TER, eroticmonkey, escortalligator / listcrawler, etc) but, I'm structuring this guide based specifically on STG's format, as that is the most commonly posted ad site for GR.
This guide is not intended to provide means to determine the quality, expected attractiveness, bait-and-switch likelihood (meaning you WILL be seeing a provider, just possibly not the person advertised), pricing, or trustworthiness of any given provider. That information is what these boards should primarily be an exchange for, in my opinion. This guide will focus solely on determining the likelihood that the ad in question is a scammer looking to take money with no intentions of meeting. Determining if a provider is worth seeing or not is too subjective and varied an experience to fit neatly within any guidelines. Although, if this guide proves useful, I may write more guides detailing my thought process in determining some of those factors.
With that being said, however, determining a scam isn't an exact science either. This hobby is still largely seen as a no-no, at least here in the USA, so we don't have any governmental agencies and standards that all escort ads can be held to. This guide is just one monger's pattern recognition over a few years of experience condensed into a few paragraphs and bullet points for other mongers to take into consideration. The red flags I will talk about later are just that, warning signs. Nothing should be taken as a hard and fast rule on its own. As I said before, there is no governing standard that all ads must abide by, so any one given red flag, won't always be an instant 'Yay' or 'Nay'.
For Example; Fake / Stolen Photos are largely considered the greatest red flag by mongers looking into trying new-to-them providers. However some of the most highly regarded providers here in GR (eg. Lauren and CJ) have been using fake images for literal years. They've been at it longer than I've been a monger, so I don't know how they initially established their reputations, but at this point, they speak for themselves and mongers that have seen them (myself included) agree that the fakes are still close enough approximates to the real woman, so they can get away with using fake photos while also getting local monger endorsement.
These warnings and red flags should be used in concert with each other to build more of a "Riskiness" profile that a monger can measure the ad against to decide if it's worth posting to the board.
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Pre Requisites:
This guide is going to assume you know and have already done basic info gathering:
- Googling phone Numbers to find other ads.
- Reverse Image Searching Photos (google lens or TinEye) to see if taken from porn sites or OnlyFans models.
- Searching Forums using either names or key words from the ad.
These are what I consider the absolute bare minimum amount of foot work that should be done before posting the ad to the boards. Info won't always turn up, but If I see an inquiry about a girl that has been reviewed to hell and back on the forums, or google the number and find ads from other escort hosting site, or reverse image search (even with Googles current worst iteration of Google Lens) and get multiple porn site hits, I will absolutely refuse to answer, because that says that the poster has just not tried at all. Crowd sourcing answers from a community is fine, using the forums as a personal, information gathering task force is not.
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The guide:
I will be splitting up the criteria I look for across the 5 main sections of a given STG ad: Title, Photos, Provider Description / Info, The Bio, Services Provided.
Each criteria will have a weight score associated with it on a 0 - 10 scale. 0 meaning it doesn't factor into my process at all, 10 meaning if it's off, then I consider the ad dead in the water, and 5 meaning it should be taken in consideration with other flags. It can also be looked at as 0%-100% of ads I've found triggering this Red Flag that also end up being scams.
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Title:
- Generic or no identifiable / searchable key words: 2.
Annoying as all hell to try and search when the ad just says something like "Cum to me" or "Hey there", but more an indicator of laziness than it is scam worthy.
- Excessive use of Emojis: 7.
Using emojis is fine, but {} punctuating $ every % word # with + an | Emoji * or () symbol is usually a tip off to something being a foot.
- Fake Ages: 1.
Even most of my favorite providers over the years have rarely used real ages. Off ages is more used by providers to get more clients than scammers.
- Young Ages: 8.
Most providers trying to play on "youthfulness" will pick a "young" age like 21 - 23 because most mongers aren't willing to risk the jailbait. Ads posting as 18/19 are usually used by scammers to trap oldies desperate for someone "young and hot".
- Structured more like a Personal Ad from a News Paper: 9.
"Hot Divorced Mom", "Lonely Widow", "Sexy College Girl", or anything that sounds like the lead in to a porn film fantasy is usually a good indicator to a scam.
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Photos:
- A Snapchat Code pic: 9
There are some girls that do include a snapchat code either in the ad or added to some photos, but if one of the photos is just a snapchat code and no number present in the ad, that's more than likely a scammer attempting to lure you to an app that automatically deletes any evidence of the exchange
- Fake / Reused / Stolen Photos: 9.
Like stated above, this is probably the number 1 factor that leads me to believe an ad is fake. Only reason it doesn't get a 10 on the scale, is because known trusted providers I have seen use fake pics as well. Privacy is a definite concern for the women advertising, but fake pictures is not the best way to protect that privacy. Unless the rest of the ad is squeaky clean, as far as red/green flags go, and the girl has been seen and reviewed before, this is a pretty obvious tell.
- Professional / Extremely High Quality: 8.
Kind of goes along with the Fake pics point above. Not necessarily referring to artsy or posed selfie photos, but pictures that are clearly being taken with insanely expensive cameras by someone with professional experience on well thought out sets or backdrops is a rarity with the women that post on STG. Not impossible, as some like Sofia Zaragoza and other High End Escorts, and even some local scene girls like Angel aka Exotic Beauty or Pixie, will have pro / paid photoshoots to lean on, but they will also have a prior reputation or a price tag to match the quality.
- AI Altered / Created Pics: 8.
Has only been popping up on the scene for me as of recent, so still building a case around it. For now, I lean towards the same feeling as Fake pics, and the fact that scammers have been using AI in a lot of spaces doesn't help. But I also recognize that it's a new thing that many girls will probably see more like photo filters than downright deception, even if it is.
- Heavily Filtered: 2.
Scammers will more often than not just find hot girls to post as it's much faster with less effort, but there's been more than a couple instances I've seen of scammers using filters to try and throw off reverse image search engines. Pretty rare, but happens.
- Face / Tattoos covered over: 5.
Another one that gets kind of murky because of providers attempts to maintain some level of discretion when posting. Scammers do it to throw off image searches, but girls also do it to keep some level of anonymity, so it's mostly a coin flip.
- Head / Face Cropped out: 8.
Any girl hiding her face will usually use either the method above or just hide her face from the camera when taking the picture. The head being cropped out of the shot is a good indicator of a stolen photo that's been edited and cropped to make it harder to reverse search.
- Images not of a person at all: 0.
I've seen this only a few times and never with scam posts.
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Provider Description / Info:
- Physical Descriptions don't match photos (Race / Hair Color / Height / Weight / Measurements): 7.
Other than weight, most providers usually do a good job at keeping the descriptions accurate to their photos. Having Race set to Asian with pics of what is clearly a black girl, or Red Hair for pics of a blonde girl, or Breasts set to Large for a girl that barely fills a B cup are usual give aways that the ad isn't made by an actual provider.
- Lists more than 3 races/ethnicities: 6
This is more often a method used by 1 "leader" that posts for a stable of girls, which is suspicious on it's own, but can also be used by scammers to get their ads in as many filtered searches as possible.
- Location is very broad or not a location: 9.
"Incall / Outcall", "MI", "Downtown", "Wherever you want me". Some very very rare cases where this is used by real providers, but most always a tip off that the person doesn't plan on ever meeting up.
- Outcall only: 4.
There definitely are girls that can only do or prefer outcalls, but outcall only makes it a lot easier for a scammer to convince you to send a deposit to secure a date. I don't do outcall personally, but something I'd be wary of when looking over the rest of the ad.
- Forms of accepted payment includes Everything or even just WeChat / Crypto: 9.
Listing every individual Credit Card Company, Alipay, WeChat and Crypto is a dead give away for me.
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The Bio:
- Bad / ESL Grammar: 9.
Overseas scammers will often still trip up their wording when trying to create these posts. Bad spelling isn't rare with some of the girls that make up the escort scene, but the non English speaker wording is pretty easy to spot.
- Uses the phrase "Sex Styles" or other weird wording: 10.
Besides asian agencies, Probably the only time that I will say this is 100% a scammer. Just like the bad grammar / wording above, non English speaking scammers will attempt to create colorful wording and that's when weird phrases like "Sex Style" comes up.
- Advertises Bare Back Full Service: 7.
There are a few girls that advertise BB, but that usually comes along with a special menu pricing for it (Shelby Dodge for example). BB just listed along with other "Sex Styles" is a good indicator of an attempted scam.
- Phone number isn't local to the area or state: 7.
Travelers do come through from time to time, but they also advertise that they are travelling and mongers can search from there. A girl that has been advertising in the same place for a while, but uses a number with an area code that isn't even from the state (I.E. GR area but a 725 number) is often not a real.
- Adamantly Requires a deposit: 9.
Unfortunately for providers that do use deposits as a form of safety, deposits are far more used by scammers to land an easy pay day. Real providers will often have other forms of verification that will suffice without requiring just a deposit.
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Services Provided:
- Includes Every Option available for STG: 9.
There are some definite freaks that advertise on STG, but it's pretty rare for them to advertise all of the acts they'll do only in this section without any mention of either "No Rules / Limits" in the bio as well with prices. 'Watersports Receiving', 'Greek', and 'Will Entertain Women / Couples' all featured together on a large list, though not impossible, is usually a good chance of being a scam.
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I do hope this guide is at least somewhat useful for mongers going forward. It's by no means exhaustive and I'm sure there's some other indicators that other mongers have noticed themselves, but this should be a good starting point for new mongers just getting into trolling through ads.
Happy and Safe Hunting for all, and as always, Your Mileage May Vary.