IE Sugar Forum

[Ace McNasty]

Ace, can you start up a new thread for " IE Sugarbaby Intel " or similar? I tried but didn't have access. Trying to share some SB Intel and reports. Thanks.


I second that.Here you go. Geographically speaking, the IE is much bigger than LA, OC, SD, and SFV combined. I consider the western border to be the 71 fwy to Pomona, the southern limit to Temecula, the northern border to be the Apple Valley, and the eastern border to be Palm Springs.

SB-wise, I have had plenty of success in the IE. About 90% of my sugaring is between OC and IE and the other 10% LA and SD.

[FarFarAway]

I work in Riverside at times, and it is a good way for me to meet up w / SBs out of my home base. I have a few I saw in the past year, none of them I would like to release into the wild.

[ClimbingUp]

Thanks for starting the thread Ace.

I'm about one month into SA and it's been worth it so far. There seems to be lots of potential in the area that I'm targeting. Pretty much if you drew a triangle from San Bernadino to Riverside to Claremont. One successful connection so far with a kinky low 30's single mom. Casual meet and greet first and then a couple 300 ppm trysts. I do covered by choice but the experience is still a fun change up from the usual mechanical AMP or escort experience.

I'm curious what kind of mileage you guys are getting and with what typical donations. I'm pretty up front about 300 ppm and so far getting decent interest from cute curvy latinas around 25-35 yo. A decent amount of girls still want 500 but I don't feel the need to entertain that unless they are a true bombshell. I've stopped bothering with the bombshell dancer level girls because they seem to all demand way too much. I'd rather escort if it's going to take 500 plus addition date fees.

Oh yeah, any tips for hosting options? I fould https://www.daybreakhotels.com/US/en-US and https://www.dayuse.com/ that has some availability around ontario airport area.

[FarFarAway]

Thanks for starting the thread Ace.

I'm about one month into SA and it's been worth it so far. There seems to be lots of potential in the area that I'm targeting. Pretty much if you drew a triangle from San Bernadino to Riverside to Claremont. One successful connection so far with a kinky low 30's single mom. Casual meet and greet first and then a couple 300 ppm trysts. I do covered by choice but the experience is still a fun change up from the usual mechanical AMP or escort experience.

I'm curious what kind of mileage you guys are getting and with what typical donations. I'm pretty up front about 300 ppm and so far getting decent interest from cute curvy latinas around 25-35 yo. A decent amount of girls still want 500 but I don't feel the need to entertain that unless they are a true bombshell. I've stopped bothering with the bombshell dancer level girls because they seem to all demand way too much. I'd rather escort if it's going to take 500 plus addition date fees.

Oh yeah, any tips for hosting options? I fould https://www.daybreakhotels.com/US/en-US and https://www.dayuse.com/ that has some availability around Ontario airport area.Thanks for the info about DayBreak. I have used the other one, and hotelsbyday, before, but it is always tough to get a place in the right city at the right price. I have rigorous opsec, so I have the girl book the room and then reimburse in addition.

I have been giving 300 or 400.

[Shoot47]

Thanks for starting the thread Ace.

I'm about one month into SA and it's been worth it so far. There seems to be lots of potential in the area that I'm targeting. Pretty much if you drew a triangle from San Bernadino to Riverside to Claremont. One successful connection so far with a kinky low 30's single mom. Casual meet and greet first and then a couple 300 ppm trysts. I do covered by choice but the experience is still a fun change up from the usual mechanical AMP or escort experience.

I'm curious what kind of mileage you guys are getting and with what typical donations. I'm pretty up front about 300 ppm and so far getting decent interest from cute curvy latinas around 25-35 yo. A decent amount of girls still want 500 but I don't feel the need to entertain that unless they are a true bombshell. I've stopped bothering with the bombshell dancer level girls because they seem to all demand way too much. I'd rather escort if it's going to take 500 plus addition date fees.

Oh yeah, any tips for hosting options? I fould https://www.daybreakhotels.com/US/en-US and https://www.dayuse.com/ that has some availability around ontario airport area.I do 300-400, but it seems 70% of the girls I've been chat wants 500+.

[FarFarAway]

I do 300-400, but it seems 70% of the girls I've been chat wants 500+.If you negotiate $ online, before meeting, that is what you should expect. You have to M&G them, never talk $ before that. Have a little gift (a single rose, $5 at Albertsons) for the M&G, make her swoon, make her think you don't think she's a hooker.

[R Ryder]

If you negotiate $ online, before meeting, that is what you should expect. You have to M&G them, never talk $ before that. Have a little gift (a single rose, $5 at Albertsons) for the M&G, make her swoon, make her think you don't think she's a hooker.I posted this on the LA forum. But I recently resigned up with SA. I've had 2 very successful arrangements. One ended up living with me for a year until she decided to move for school. I've sent out 99 messages and not a single message back. WTH. What's your approach? Do I just send out a message with a number or what? I've tried to hit 8 D in the beginning but stopped to messaging 3's and 4's just to get message back. But still nada. Help a brother out.

[Ace McNasty]

Oh yeah, any tips for hosting options? I fould https://www.daybreakhotels.com/US/en-US and https://www.dayuse.com/ that has some availability around ontario airport area.Plenty of hourly motels in the IE. I have used about 10 or 12 in the last decade of mongering. As far west as Upland and as far east as Palm Springs. However, I only used them in a pinch for escorts who can only do outcall. For my SB's I always use chain hotels. I have hundreds of thousands of Rewards and VIP freq flyer points that I can literally stay for an entire month at any Hilton or Marriott property and the entire stay will be comped. Since taking a SB to the FC involves a lot of planning, I can use my points to get a room. But as you know, check in is after 4 pm. So if I am banging an Hx girl or a PD chick and she can only do outcall at 11 am, then these hourly motels come in handy.

I sugar in the PNW and also in Henderson during my business trips. Since I am already staying at a Marriott, I already have a private FC room for my POTs and M&G girls.

[Ace McNasty]

Begins with one baby step forward.


Thanks for starting the thread Ace.

I'm about one month into SA and it's been worth it so far. You got a long way to go LOL. I started using Hx pretty heavy in 2011, seekingarrangement in 2016, and privatedelights in 2018.

Hundreds and hundreds of escorts, hoes, and sugar babies notched in my nasty bedpost ha ha ha!

In the Air Force you need 5 confirmed kills to be labeled an "Ace". What does this make me? I am the fucking Red Baron of commercial pussy!

[ColoHobbyist]

Since taking a SB to the FC involves a lot of planning, I can use my points to get a room. But as you know, check in is after 4 pm. So if I am banging an Hx girl or a PD chick and she can only do outcall at 11 am, then these hourly motels come in handy.A couple of things that might be useful to you Ace (and others, obviously).

- First off is that, like you, I've got tons of nights worth of points with Hilton, Marriott, and Wyndham. As a byproduct, I've also got status in each of these programs that provides early check-in and / or late check-out. Both can be hugely useful for a daytime tryst.

- When availability for the above isn't working, I use dayuse.com and hotelsbyday.com Both have their own frequency programs (although often hotels will also award regular points for a stay, even though they're not actually supposed to). They're generally about $ and for a clean, modern room, I think that's a fair value vs the hourly no-tell spots.

In any event, I kinda get off on leaving a day-use room with the sheets on the floor and a giant wet spot on the bed. LOL.

[Shoot47]

All the seeking girls chatted this week are all looking for 600+ , some are asking high amount for M&G, at the same time they are just average looking girls. Am I behind the times too much or what?

Just last year I could still meet good looking young girls with nice body for $300-400?

[Manuel128]

All the seeking girls chatted this week are all looking for 600+ , some are asking high amount for M&G, at the same time they are just average looking girls. Am I behind the times too much or what?

Just last year I could still meet good looking young girls with nice body for $300-400?That's crazy. Prices are only going up like this because people are willing to pay it. Guys should say no these prices. I stick to AMPs anyways as I like to stay anonymous. Manny.

[FarFarAway]

All the seeking girls chatted this week are all looking for 600+ , some are asking high amount for M&G, at the same time they are just average looking girls. Am I behind the times too much or what?

Just last year I could still meet good looking young girls with nice body for $300-400?That is excessive, but if you are trying to negotiate sugar via electronic messaging, you'll get their top price. I only ever talk $ at the M&G, and I never agree to $ in advance for that. However, if the M&G goes well, I do give a gift card, like from Victoria or Sephora. If a girl won't agree to my scenario, she is too much a pro for my taste. Treat her nice and as if you are trying to date her, not bang her, and it will pay dividends.

[ColoHobbyist]

Treat her nice and as if you are trying to date her, not bang her, and it will pay dividends.This is the way.

I only go for SBs that I WOULD actually date (if 50+ yo me were to suddenly be attractive to 20-30 something women). If I just want to get laid right now. I go to HX, etc. If I'm going the sugar route, I slow roll. M&G with no PPM, then if we hit it off, an actual date with PPM but no sex (at least that's usually my plan). Then, if that goes well, sex on 3rd meetup.

I've been seeing a decently attractive 28 yo girl from SA now for about a month and we've seen each other four times. Once was M&G, which ended with a some first date style kissing / groping. Then second date had more of the same. Third date was a 3 hour fuck fest and fourth date, she spent the night. Each of those was $200. So, for $600, I've had two sex dates, totaling about 9 waking hours which, even with hotel and meals, translates to about $100/ hour. I consider that exceptional value for money, especially for BBFS-CIP with anal.

If you only go for 8-10's, then I'd agree, SA isn't the place anymore. Honestly, if that's your goal, the sweet spot now is porn star escorts. At least you know what you're getting for your $1500.

[FarFarAway]

This is the way.

I only go for SBs that I WOULD actually date (if 50+ yo me were to suddenly be attractive to 20-30 something women). If I just want to get laid right now. I go to HX, etc. If I'm going the sugar route, I slow roll. M&G with no PPM, then if we hit it off, an actual date with PPM but no sex (at least that's usually my plan). Then, if that goes well, sex on 3rd meetup.

I've been seeing a decently attractive 28 yo girl from SA now for about a month and we've seen each other four times. Once was M&G, which ended with a some first date style kissing / groping. Then second date had more of the same. Third date was a 3 hour fuck fest and fourth date, she spent the night. Each of those was $200. So, for $600, I've had two sex dates, totaling about 9 waking hours which, even with hotel and meals, translates to about $100/ hour. I consider that exceptional value for money, especially for BBFS-CIP with anal.

If you only go for 8-10's, then I'd agree, SA isn't the place anymore. Honestly, if that's your goal, the sweet spot now is porn star escorts. At least you know what you're getting for your $1500.I have had two dates w / SBs lately, one traveling and one in town. Both were 30's and definitely 8's or greater. And, yeah, I'm old. My own goal is to nail as much high quality pussy as I can, emphasis on the quality. The road baby I gave 600. The local one 450 for the first date, w / the promise of 1200/ mo for weekly meetings. But of course I also had to cover the hotel for this one. So about the same.

[RichNHood]

I had success linking up with local girls on social media. Tagged was a goldmine back when it was more popular. I would spam up all the girls asking if they want to have a "date" for some $$. Of the few ones that said yes the vast majority were among my all time favorites of the hundreds I've been with.

I still have two of them in rotation to this day, they are regular chicks with jobs, kids, and a BF. One chick I been giving the same 100 donation for like the last 10 years and she never complained and when we meet up its a no time limit full passion romp where she begs me to tell her I love her and to creampie her and she even volunteers to get the room sometimes. The other wants 200 but its no timelimit too and I get to creampie her while her kids are at school with a big picture of her and her boyfriend over the bed.

[RichNHood]

I'm getting off work the other day and as the elevator opens to the parking garage I'm greeted to the sight of a dime piece latina in a black fishnet set with black bikini under and 6 inch heels taking selfies with a tripod next to her car just two car spaces down from my car in a near empty garage lot, probably for her OF. She was a bit hesitant at first until she noticed I was just walking to my car. As I got closer she mentioned that she started to take some pics in front of my car since it was nice and didn't have plates in the front and I responded I definitely would not have minded. But just shortly after I hear someone else walking through who likely works in my same office and I definitely don't want to "play" anywhere near my job so I just left it at that. But as I left it took every ounce of strength to not go back and ask for her IG or snap.

[JohnRichard]

Plenty of hourly motels in the IE. I have used about 10 or 12 in the last decade of mongering. As far west as Upland and as far east as Palm Springs. However, I only used them in a pinch for escorts who can only do outcall. For my SB's I always use chain hotels. I have hundreds of thousands of Rewards and VIP freq flyer points that I can literally stay for an entire month at any Hilton or Marriott property and the entire stay will be comped. Since taking a SB to the FC involves a lot of planning, I can use my points to get a room. But as you know, check in is after 4 pm. So if I am banging an Hx girl or a PD chick and she can only do outcall at 11 am, then these hourly motels come in handy.

I sugar in the PNW and also in Henderson during my business trips. Since I am already staying at a Marriott, I already have a private FC room for my POTs and M&G girls.How does one find these hourly motels? I started a new client in Riverside and would like to see if I can find an SB to one. Tia.

[FarFarAway]

How does one find these hourly motels? I started a new client in Riverside and would like to see if I can find an SB to one. Tia.I like to use the Holiday Inn Express in Corona, which is available on the hotelsbyday app. Typically, it is about $90 for a few hours. I get the girl to book it and reimburse her.

[Ace McNasty]

I started a new client in Riverside and would like to see if I can find an SB to one. Tia.Congrats on the new Riverside side hustle. Like I keep saying, Riv and SB counties are growing so much and with this pop explosion also comes great selection in young hot pussy. I met an 18 yo white SB from Riverside named "Chelsea" beginning of 2024 and added her to my IE rotation. Maybe one of these days will post pics. She barely weighs 3 digits when she steps on a scale. Hot asf young skinny brunette.


How does one find these hourly motels?Somebody already suggested an app. I ain't gone name names in Riv and SB but I use motels not far from Tyler Mall and the defunct Carousel Mall. Also a couple in Colton and in Corona on Main St. Just do a search and call the front desk?

But I will throw you a bone. I was scheduled to creampie this hot white girl after I pick her up at an apt in RanchoCuca. Normally I would just use my VIP points for a room at the BW+ on Foothill since I have used it before a few times to rawdog Hx girls like JenniferRae and Ashleybaby. But on that day they had no rooms for early check-in and only available at 4 pm. Well I had a meeting at 4 pm with my tax accnt and fiduciary in OT Pasadena, and my girl is only available around noon. So I did my search and found the Stardust and New Kansan Motel a couple blocks away. Did my OpSec and Stardust was not up to par, so I picked up my girl and took her to the New Kansan. Small badness with just a few rooms in a semi-circle arrangement and you will park literally in front of your door, all bungalow style short rentals.

[JohnRichard]

Thanks for the tip on the notel.

That girl looks super hot. I hope I will land one like that. Did you find her on sa?


Congrats on the new Riverside side hustle. Like I keep saying, Riv and SB counties are growing so much and with this pop explosion also comes great selection in young hot pussy. I met an 18 yo white SB from Riverside named "Chelsea" beginning of 2024 and added her to my IE rotation. Maybe one of these days will post pics. She barely weighs 3 digits when she steps on a scale. Hot asf young skinny brunette.

Somebody already suggested an app. I ain't gone name names in Riv and SB but I use motels not far from Tyler Mall and the defunct Carousel Mall. Also a couple in Colton and in Corona on Main St. Just do a search and call the front desk?

But I will throw you a bone. I was scheduled to creampie this hot white girl after I pick her up at an apt in RanchoCuca. Normally I would just use my VIP points for a room at the BW+ on Foothill since I have used it before a few times to rawdog Hx girls like JenniferRae and Ashleybaby. But on that day they had no rooms for early check-in and only available at 4 pm. Well I had a meeting at 4 pm with my tax accnt and fiduciary in OT Pasadena, and my girl is only available around noon. So I did my search and found the Stardust and New Kansan Motel a couple blocks away. Did my OpSec and Stardust was not up to par, so I picked up my girl and took her to the New Kansan. Small badness with just a few rooms in a semi-circle arrangement and you will park literally in front of your door, all bungalow style short rentals.

[FarFarAway]

I like to use the Holiday Inn Express in Corona, which is available on the hotelsbyday app. Typically, it is about $90 for a few hours. I get the girl to book it and reimburse her.Sometimes there are fails, though. I was supposed to FC there yesterday, my girl started driving there and they called her, saying they were out of rooms even though she had a reservation.

[Ace McNasty]

Thanks for the tip on the notel.

That girl looks super hot. I hope I will land one like that. Did you find her on SA?I only used her as an example because I creampied this chick at the New Kansan hourly motel but she is not a traditional SB by any means. She used to be on Hx then left and now only posts infrequently on PD. Still hot asf regardless of whether you call her a pro or escort. I would creampie her any day over many of the "babies" they post and talk about in the LA Sugar Daddy forum. Many of them are in their 30's and 40's SMH. My definition of a sugar baby is a pretty girl HALF your age. So if the upscale daddies over there are going ga-ga over some 41 yo "baby", wonder how old many of these posters are?

I also don't limit or restrict myself to dedicated SD sites like SA, SDM, or SecBen. The way I see it, there are POTS everywhere you look, at any online site, or even at your local Target store. So I am able to hook sugar babies more successfully because I am not hung up on labels or sources. Perfect example is my current 18 yo SB below, added her to my personal harem in January, goes by "Chelsea" from the Riverside area. Found her in a generic online site but was posting as a SB looking for a daddy. Insanely hot and could enter a Ms. Teen USA contest. Yeah the LA and OC SD forums get all the activity here but the IE is a treasure trove for POTS and hot young girls 18-20 yo, just the way I like them LOL. No divorced MILFs for me!

[RickSanchez01]

I only used her as an example because I creampied this chick at the New Kansan hourly motel but she is not a traditional SB by any means. She used to be on Hx then left and now only posts infrequently on PD. Still hot asf regardless of whether you call her a pro or escort. I would creampie her any day over many of the "babies" they post and talk about in the LA Sugar Daddy forum. Many of them are in their 30's and 40's SMH. My definition of a sugar baby is a pretty girl HALF your age. So if the upscale daddies over there are going ga-ga over some 41 yo "baby", wonder how old many of these posters are?

I also don't limit or restrict myself to dedicated SD sites like SA, SDM, or SecBen. The way I see it, there are POTS everywhere you look, at any online site, or even at your local Target store. So I am able to hook sugar babies more successfully because I am not hung up on labels or sources. Perfect example is my current 18 yo SB below, added her to my personal harem in January, goes by "Chelsea" from the Riverside area. Found her in a generic online site but was posting as a SB looking for a daddy. Insanely hot and could enter a Ms. Teen USA contest. Yeah the LA and OC SD forums get all the activity here but the IE is a treasure trove for POTS and hot young girls 18-20 yo, just the way I like them LOL. No divorced MILFs for me!Mind sharing what site you use? Feel free to DM. I'm always looking to add other girls.

[JohnDoe1989]

This thread could be a little more proactive. How's everyone's experience with seeking and secret benefits? I know seeking is filled with bots and scams rn, but for anyone who's willing to filter through all the bullshit, I'm still finding hot chicks that for decent prices. No pimps, no seedy motels. Just takes a little more patience. Will say though, the Inland Empire still feels untapped for that stuff. Jurupa Valley and San Jacinto seem to be the best cities where I'm finding hot chicks who couldn't manage a dollar to save their life LOL I saw on another post that the best time to set up a meet would be around the 25th-26th of the month, rent is coming up for most people and girls start to get desperate. I've set up a 2.5 hr meet before from the site where the girl wanted 400 but her car payment was due the next day so she basically talked herself down to 200. Three nuts for 200 bucks and just picked her up from her dad's house in Jurupa valley. But like I said, a lot of patience and a lot of other text convos with other girls that went nowhere. Feel free to reply with any more tricks of the trade or recommendations. Good luck out there fellas.

[Ace McNasty]

This thread could be a little more proactive.I only created this thread in January because some new member who did not have such privileges yet asked me because he wanted to "contribute". After I created this IE SD-SB sub-forum, never heard from him again. A thread is like a big-ass piano. It ain't going to move itself, and you can't just expect one dude to do all the heavy lifting. It takes many guys to move that piano from Point A to Point B.


How's everyone's experience with seeking and secret benefits? I know seeking is filled with bots and scams rn. Feel free to reply with any more tricks of the trade or recommendations. Good luck out there fellas.Everything I needed to learn or know or add to my knowledge base when I first started sugaring many years ago, I learned from reading the ENTIRE Richmond sugar thread and forum. It is a gold mine of info. All the stuff posted there is applicable to sugaring anywhere in this country, including CA.


Will say though, the Inland Empire still feels untapped for that stuff. Jurupa Valley and San Jacinto seem to be the best cities where I'm finding hot chicks who couldn't manage a dollar to save their life LOL I saw on another post that the best time to set up a meet would be around the 25th-26th of the month, rent is coming up for most people and girls start to get desperate. I've set up a 2.5 hr meet before from the site where the girl wanted 400 but her car payment was due the next day so she basically talked herself down to 200. Three nuts for 200 bucks and just picked her up from her dad's house in Jurupa valley. Ha ha hopefully we are not sugaring the same girl from Jurupa Valley OMG what a coincidence. She is a smoking hot 20 yo Cuban girl, almost skin and bones, but has amazing perky tits and cute little bubble butt. Same dates here, I pick her up at her parent's home in JV, take her to my FC, and she lets me do anything I want except anal. No condoms ever and she knows I am neutered so CIP finish. One more thing about using SM. She lost her phone and I could not contact her. So I tried messaging thru her SM account and she was so glad I did and we reconnected. Screenshot of our convo. But do not discuss graphic stuff on the app. Just establish comms, exchange digits, then take the convo off site. These sites have hall monitors and that's the fastest way for your account to get banned or restricted.

[JohnDoe1989]

I only created this thread in January because some new member who did not have such privileges yet asked me because he wanted to "contribute". After I created this IE SD-SB sub-forum, never heard from him again. A thread is like a big-ass piano. It ain't going to move itself, and you can't just expect one dude to do all the heavy lifting. It takes many guys to move that piano from Point A to Point B.

Everything I needed to learn or know or add to my knowledge base when I first started sugaring many years ago, I learned from reading the ENTIRE Richmond sugar thread and forum. It is a gold mine of info. All the stuff posted there is applicable to sugaring anywhere in this country, including CA.

Ha ha hopefully we are not sugaring the same girl from Jurupa Valley OMG what a coincidence. She is a smoking hot 20 yo Cuban girl, almost skin and bones, but has amazing perky tits and cute little bubble butt. Same dates here, I pick her up at her parent's home in JV, take her to my FC, and she lets me do anything I want except anal. No condoms ever and she knows I am neutered so CIP finish. One more thing about using SM. She lost her phone and I could not contact her. So I tried messaging thru her SM account and she was so glad I did and we reconnected. Screenshot of our convo. But do not discuss graphic stuff on the app. Just establish comms, exchange digits, then take the convo off site. These sites have hall monitors and that's the fastest way for your account to get banned or restricted.It is def funny that they're both from Jurupa valley, I had 2 other ones that were also from JV but one moved and the other got in a "relationship". My current one is 25 and thicker, so it is not the same. Good recommendation on the Richmond thread, currently reading through it and lots of good info.

[FarFarAway]

This thread could be a little more proactive. How's everyone's experience with seeking and secret benefits? I know seeking is filled with bots and scams rn, but for anyone who's willing to filter through all the bullshit, I'm still finding hot chicks that for decent prices. No pimps, no seedy motels. Just takes a little more patience. Will say though, the Inland Empire still feels untapped for that stuff. Jurupa Valley and San Jacinto seem to be the best cities where I'm finding hot chicks who couldn't manage a dollar to save their life LOL I saw on another post that the best time to set up a meet would be around the 25th-26th of the month, rent is coming up for most people and girls start to get desperate. I've set up a 2.5 hr meet before from the site where the girl wanted 400 but her car payment was due the next day so she basically talked herself down to 200. Three nuts for 200 bucks and just picked her up from her dad's house in Jurupa valley. But like I said, a lot of patience and a lot of other text convos with other girls that went nowhere. Feel free to reply with any more tricks of the trade or recommendations. Good luck out there fellas.I'm from OC but often work in the IE, so I definitely troll out there. I have not had a lot of luck, actually. I play very carefully, I have a lot to lose, so that limits me quite a bit. Daytime meets, etc. I do think there is some nice talent, but I have met way more reasonable prospects in OC.

I don't use secret benefits, I can't figure out how to even get a paid membership without giving up personal info. Seeking has a well-known path for that.

[JohnDoe1989]

I checked out a thread that another user recommended that was loaded with stuff, some things I was already practicing and some that I was still on the fence about. Regardless, they can be applied in any city or state. So for the IE dudes looking to get some broke sugar babies, here's a few things to keep in mind, whether you're new or an experienced dude. In no order of importance:

1. Don't use your real phone number. Download google voice, free and seems to work better than most texting apps. A quick google search of your real phone number can pull up your real name, address and sometimes social medial. Try to give as little real info about yourself as possible when setting up arrangements.

2. Don't ever ever send pre-send money electronically. "I need gas", "I need money for a sitter", "I have to pay my cell phone bill or else we can't meet". Fuck all that, obvious red flag of a scammer. Using the websites seeking arrangement or secret benefits, you're bound to get a lot of bullshit scammers. When you encounter one, just bail immediately. There will never be a shortage of 20 something year old girls that can't manage their money. Just move along to the next one.

3. Take the convo off the sites immediately. Some sites will flag and suspend your account for discussing P p m. Direct contact is always better.

4. Try get xxx pics / vids. I tend to use it as a test to see which girls are really serious about meeting and fucking. Tik tok influencers have brainwashed these girls into thinking dudes are just going to shower them with money without ever expecting anything in return. Even after you take the conversation off the sites, they might still expect a platonic money filled arrangement LOL fuck all that. The real ones should have no problem letting you see the goods before meeting. Also, try to avoid catfishing by getting the most recent full body nudes.

5. First meet and greet, maybe lunch or drinks with a gift. But don't be too inve$ted in the m&g if you're not fucking. Be clear with them about your expectations and what their expectations are. If you do it right, you can find a consistent SB in the area at a decent price. Avoid high P pm, avoid 2 k monthly allowance and depending on your level of patience, avoid any girl with a drug addiction. Yes, they are desperate but they're also a headache to manage. Girls like that aren't chasing the money, they're chasing the high. They're bound to steal from you or get you wrapped into some bullshit. Again, just depends on you. I personally stay away from those but I have an older friend (50 +) that likes those because they're cheap asf. His risk tolerance is much higher than mine and so is his level of patience. Just a personal preference I guess.

6. They need you more than you need them. Fuck what they say about all the "I usually get 500 to meet, and only fuck once" lmao. Remember, you have disposable income. They, usually have POS baby daddies, DUIs, in between jobs, couch surfing at friends house, living the party lifestyle (lots of ravers in the IE), getting their cars repo-ed or all of the above. Know your caps and be firm with them. If your cap is 1 k for a meet, good for you bro. But if your cap is $300 for a meet, I'd recommend starting at 200 and seeing what the girl says. She might say some bullshit like "I usually never go that low, but I'm going through some shit rn, when can you meet?" They're going to try to get the most they can from you but don't fall for that shit. Let them know they'll get their funds at the end of the full meet, none of this "oh I got a headache, I got to go" . Or "oh I just remembered, my sister said she's coming by, I got to go home". Keep your guard up at all times. Be cool, be friendly, don't fully treat them like prostitutes, but at the same time, be FIRM about the actual details of the transaction.

7. Maintain several conversations at a time. Some girls will deny for your initial proposal, but time and circumstances change all things. Most of these girls will not figure themselves out of their shitty situation and suddenly, your "low" p pm will seem a lot more enticing. Just check in on those conversations every now and then, doesn't cost you anything once you already got their phone number.

8. Not for you? Just keep browsing. Some girls are actually down to meet and fuck for a few hours but got all types of rules, sometimes only sex no head, Only on their timeline, available at weird times of the day. If it seems like too much work for a particular girl, just keep browsing through the site. There's no shortage, believe me.

9. Last but not least, just have some patience. Maybe 10 texting convos will result in one actual meeting, but maybe it's 15 sometimes. Idk, just depends on a few different variables. I'm pretty sure if you're willing to spend more $$, you'll be getting more meetings. Or maybe the new batch of girls on the sites are expecting online platonic arrangements and then you get no meetings. I really don't have a clear explanation of how it all works. But a few things are certain in my experience: I've never had to pick up / meet a girl from the sugaring websites on a track, a seedy motel, never had to deal with a pimp, never got nervous about possible law enforcement. Sure, I've been flaked on plenty of times but some people just aren't going go through with it. Fuck it, move on to the next one.

[RichNHood]

Another route of getting a sugar baby is becoming a regular of a escort and slowly building that relationship. I did that with one many years ago. Started with just basic dates with a little convo before and after. Then texting occasionally even when not dating, then started to let me do things she initially had as a hard no like BBBJ. And then we would go on occasional dates like lunch dinner or movies and I didn't have to pay for her time. I even met her little kid. And finally one day after a lunch date she begged me to come back after work and we fucked like we were really boyfriend and girlfriend and I creampied her. I only saw her a handful times after this as she really wanted a real relationship with me at this point and didn't want to continue if I wasn't down.

Again this was a slow burn process of several years and countless dates but I genuinely enjoyed it all and the payoff of her finally letting me fuck her raw was one of my most memorable experiences in my 15+ years of mongering.

[Cesar66]

I only created this thread in January because some new member who did not have such privileges yet asked me because he wanted to "contribute". After I created this IE SD-SB sub-forum, never heard from him again. A thread is like a big-ass piano. It ain't going to move itself, and you can't just expect one dude to do all the heavy lifting. It takes many guys to move that piano from Point A to Point B.

Everything I needed to learn or know or add to my knowledge base when I first started sugaring many years ago, I learned from reading the ENTIRE Richmond sugar thread and forum. It is a gold mine of info. All the stuff posted there is applicable to sugaring anywhere in this country, including CA.

Ha ha hopefully we are not sugaring the same girl from Jurupa Valley OMG what a coincidence. She is a smoking hot 20 yo Cuban girl, almost skin and bones, but has amazing perky tits and cute little bubble butt. Same dates here, I pick her up at her parent's home in JV, take her to my FC, and she lets me do anything I want except anal. No condoms ever and she knows I am neutered so CIP finish. One more thing about using SM. She lost her phone and I could not contact her. So I tried messaging thru her SM account and she was so glad I did and we reconnected. Screenshot of our convo. But do not discuss graphic stuff on the app. Just establish comms, exchange digits, then take the convo off site. These sites have hall monitors and that's the fastest way for your account to get banned or restricted.Hi Ace long time reader of yours, Thank you for all the reviews and advice threw out the years. I'm from the IE So and I'm starting to try the sugar daddy thing and wanted to ask What are some good sites you recommend? Iv herd of seekingbenefit and seeking, I want to know witch is better or if there are other sites I don't know of. Some of the guys here have even said I should try craigslist and hope I get lucky, witch I did once but that was years ago.

[FarFarAway]

Hi Ace long time reader of yours, Thank you for all the reviews and advice threw out the years. I'm from the IE So and I'm starting to try the sugar daddy thing and wanted to ask What are some good sites you recommend? Iv herd of seekingbenefit and seeking, I want to know witch is better or if there are other sites I don't know of. Some of the guys here have even said I should try craigslist and hope I get lucky, witch I did once but that was years ago.Here's an example of the sort of IE girl you can pull off of seeking.

[Berol Loz]

I checked out a thread that another user recommended that was loaded with stuff, some things I was already practicing and some that I was still on the fence about. Regardless, they can be applied in any city or state. So for the IE dudes looking to get some broke sugar babies, here's a few things to keep in mind, whether you're new or an experienced dude. In no order of importance:..Thanks for posting this, this is good advice.

[JohnDoe1989]

Hi Ace long time reader of yours, Thank you for all the reviews and advice threw out the years. I'm from the IE So and I'm starting to try the sugar daddy thing and wanted to ask What are some good sites you recommend? Iv herd of seekingbenefit and seeking, I want to know witch is better or if there are other sites I don't know of. Some of the guys here have even said I should try craigslist and hope I get lucky, witch I did once but that was years ago.Below are a few that I've taken down this past year, lowest cost was $100, highest was $250 but multiple nuts and got a room and all that. They're all very different, none are homeless or on a track, no pimps or any of that. 3 out of the 4, I picked them up from their parents house. Last one I was just met up at a restaurant for drinks before we did the deed. I met them all through Seeking Arrangements website. It takes some work Cesar66, but its pretty much lots of filtering through the scams and high ppm, but eventually you can find some consistent lays that give "girl next door" type of vibes. Check out the website, at least for a month. It's only like 80-90 bucks for unlimited messaging for the whole month. But make sure you take the conversation off the website immediately.

[JohnDoe1989]

Hi Ace long time reader of yours, Thank you for all the reviews and advice threw out the years. I'm from the IE So and I'm starting to try the sugar daddy thing and wanted to ask What are some good sites you recommend? Iv herd of seekingbenefit and seeking, I want to know witch is better or if there are other sites I don't know of. Some of the guys here have even said I should try craigslist and hope I get lucky, witch I did once but that was years ago.I forgot to add the pics, but they're on a separate thread.

[Cesar66]

Below are a few that I've taken down this past year, lowest cost was $100, highest was $250 but multiple nuts and got a room and all that. They're all very different, none are homeless or on a track, no pimps or any of that. 3 out of the 4, I picked them up from their parents house. Last one I was just met up at a restaurant for drinks before we did the deed. I met them all through Seeking Arrangements website. It takes some work Cesar66, but its pretty much lots of filtering through the scams and high ppm, but eventually you can find some consistent lays that give "girl next door" type of vibes. Check out the website, at least for a month. It's only like 80-90 bucks for unlimited messaging for the whole month. But make sure you take the conversation off the website immediately.Thank you John I appreciate it.

[FarFarAway]

I forgot to add the pics, but they're on a separate thread.I"ve seen the profile of #2 a lot, but never been in touch.

Hey, let's revitalize this thread. I am out in the IE pretty often, would love to sugar out there, but the girls aren't as cute or as amenable as in OC.

[Ace McNasty]

I forgot to add the pics, but they're on a separate thread.You can do a whole lot better than that group in the IE. Where are you hunting? Try other apps like SB, SDM and SecBen. Don't just restrict yourself to SA. The IE has lots of young single Moms. Both Latinas and white girls.

One of my current ones is a 20 yo Cuban girl, skin and bones just like the way I prefer. From the Upland-San Bern area. All bare, no condoms, and she lets me CIP because I'm neutered.

[VeryBigBuck]

So, this was my approach when I was in the bowl, worked well for me. YMMV. This approach will not work with pros.

Target new to Seeking girls who don't want to admit to themselves that they are selling their pussy. It is based on the premiss that the party that has the money calls the shots and that there are MANY POT SB out-there and very, very few "real" SD's. Also lines up with their desire to be "spoiled". Heck, sometimes SBs with platonic in their profile would head to the FC with me after the M&G. Most headed to the FC on date 2. Over one year only 3 out of 16 POTs did not convert and go to the FC, 13 SB went to the FC, all bare, only 3 did not want CIP. 2 or 3 asked for condoms but I did not have any with me, they fucked anyway.

Guidelines:

1. Craft your profile as an experienced SD looking for a new SB after a previous LT SR ended due to SB moving away, finding someone in RL, etc. Say in your profile that you will absolutely never ask them to meet you at a hotel on a first meet and also you are not looking for a platonic SB, you are looking for a real connection. Again. Say in your profile that you are looking for a real connection with the right lady, intimacy is not expected but as in normal relationships, if there is a connection, intimacy will quickly and naturally follow.

2. In the DM's. Never discuss money with the POT SB. When she presses, say first you are sure that this does not apply to her but you are not looking for a working girl, prostitute, escort, or anyone looking to be paid for sex. You are looking for a smart, sexy SB to connect with and help financially. Say that the way that you will help is that at the end of a date (with adult fun) you will give her an envelope. This way YOU decide how much to give. Tell her that you are looking to meet weekly and after 2 or 3 months you can switch to a monthly envelope.

3. When she says "what if the amount in the envelope is not enough", respond "as in any relationship if there is an issue, we do the adult thing and talk to resolve the issue". In my experience, when a SB that I had fucked complained about the amount (only one of 13, my normal was 300 per envelope), I said, "that is all I have in my budget", sorry if it does not work for you, do you want to cancel our date this week? She said, "no that is fine". Also make sure that she cums a shit-ton the first time you have sex, get down there and lick her pussy like it is the last pussy on earth (google lesbian guide to pussy licking) before fucking her. It seems that young men these days don't enjoy dining at the why.


I checked out a thread that another user recommended that was loaded with stuff, some things I was already practicing and some that I was still on the fence about. Regardless, they can be applied in any city or state. So for the IE dudes looking to get some broke sugar babies, here's a few things to keep in mind, whether you're new or an experienced dude. In no order of importance:

1. Don't use your real phone number. Download google voice, free and seems to work better than most texting apps. A quick google search of your real phone number can pull up your real name, address and sometimes social medial. Try to give as little real info about yourself as possible when setting up arrangements.

2. Don't ever ever send pre-send money electronically. "I need gas", "I need money for a sitter", "I have to pay my cell phone bill or else we can't meet". Fuck all that, obvious red flag of a scammer. Using the websites seeking arrangement or secret benefits, you're bound to get a lot of bullshit scammers. When you encounter one, just bail immediately. There will never be a shortage of 20 something year old girls that can't manage their money. Just move along to the next one.

3. Take the convo off the sites immediately. Some sites will flag and suspend your account for discussing P p m. Direct contact is always better.

4. Try get xxx pics / vids. I tend to use it as a test to see which girls are really serious about meeting and fucking. Tik tok influencers have brainwashed these girls into thinking dudes are just going to shower them with money without ever expecting anything in return. Even after you take the conversation off the sites, they might still expect a platonic money filled arrangement LOL fuck all that. The real ones should have no problem letting you see the goods before meeting. Also, try to avoid catfishing by getting the most recent full body nudes.

5. First meet and greet, maybe lunch or drinks with a gift. But don't be too inve$ted in the m&g if you're not fucking. Be clear with them about your expectations and what their expectations are. If you do it right, you can find a consistent SB in the area at a decent price. Avoid high P pm, avoid 2 k monthly allowance and depending on your level of patience, avoid any girl with a drug addiction. Yes, they are desperate but they're also a headache to manage. Girls like that aren't chasing the money, they're chasing the high. They're bound to steal from you or get you wrapped into some bullshit. Again, just depends on you. I personally stay away from those but I have an older friend (50 +) that likes those because they're cheap asf. His risk tolerance is much higher than mine and so is his level of patience. Just a personal preference I guess.

6. They need you more than you need them. Fuck what they say about all the "I usually get 500 to meet, and only fuck once" lmao. Remember, you have disposable income. They, usually have POS baby daddies, DUIs, in between jobs, couch surfing at friends house, living the party lifestyle (lots of ravers in the IE), getting their cars repo-ed or all of the above. Know your caps and be firm with them. If your cap is 1 k for a meet, good for you bro. But if your cap is $300 for a meet, I'd recommend starting at 200 and seeing what the girl says. She might say some bullshit like "I usually never go that low, but I'm going through some shit rn, when can you meet?" They're going to try to get the most they can from you but don't fall for that shit. Let them know they'll get their funds at the end of the full meet, none of this "oh I got a headache, I got to go" . Or "oh I just remembered, my sister said she's coming by, I got to go home". Keep your guard up at all times. Be cool, be friendly, don't fully treat them like prostitutes, but at the same time, be FIRM about the actual details of the transaction.

7. Maintain several conversations at a time. Some girls will deny for your initial proposal, but time and circumstances change all things. Most of these girls will not figure themselves out of their shitty situation and suddenly, your "low" p pm will seem a lot more enticing. Just check in on those conversations every now and then, doesn't cost you anything once you already got their phone number.

8. Not for you? Just keep browsing. Some girls are actually down to meet and fuck for a few hours but got all types of rules, sometimes only sex no head, Only on their timeline, available at weird times of the day. If it seems like too much work for a particular girl, just keep browsing through the site. There's no shortage, believe me.

9. Last but not least, just have some patience. Maybe 10 texting convos will result in one actual meeting, but maybe it's 15 sometimes. Idk, just depends on a few different variables. I'm pretty sure if you're willing to spend more $$, you'll be getting more meetings. Or maybe the new batch of girls on the sites are expecting online platonic arrangements and then you get no meetings. I really don't have a clear explanation of how it all works. But a few things are certain in my experience: I've never had to pick up / meet a girl from the sugaring websites on a track, a seedy motel, never had to deal with a pimp, never got nervous about possible law enforcement. Sure, I've been flaked on plenty of times but some people just aren't going go through with it. Fuck it, move on to the next one.

[Mngrrr]

Here's an example of the sort of IE girl you can pull off of seeking.That's a ghoulish looking woman.

[Berol Loz]

You can do a whole lot better than that group in the IE. Where are you hunting? Try other apps like SB, SDM and SecBen. Don't just restrict yourself to SA. The IE has lots of young single Moms. Both Latinas and white girls.

One of my current ones is a 20 yo Cuban girl, skin and bones just like the way I prefer. From the Upland-San Bern area. All bare, no condoms, and she lets me CIP because I'm neutered.Definitely don't restrict yourself to just Seeking; Sugardaddymeet.com (https://www.sugardaddymeet.com/?tid=af100011222-m) (SDM) and SecretBenefits.com (https://www.secretbenefits.com/) both have plenty of girls available, too. Seeking has added a verification requirement (you have to take a selfie for them), while SDM has made it voluntary for now.

One thing I learned last year was SDM also charges girls money to read messages so it's in their interest to make an arrangement since it's costing them money too, unlike Seeking where it's always free for girls. I suppose this is the reason you'll see girls ask you to message you with your email / phone. So they don't have to pay.

[Berol Loz]

So, this was my approach when I was in the bowl, worked well for me. YMMV. This approach will not work with pros.

Target new to Seeking girls who don't want to admit to themselves that they are selling their pussy. It is based on the premiss that the party that has the money calls the shots and that there are MANY POT SB out-there and very, very few "real" SD's. Also lines up with their desire to be "spoiled". Heck, sometimes SBs with platonic in their profile would head to the FC with me after the M&G. Most headed to the FC on date 2. Over one year only 3 out of 16 POTs did not convert and go to the FC, 13 SB went to the FC, all bare, only 3 did not want CIP. 2 or 3 asked for condoms but I did not have any with me, they fucked anyway...Thank you for this. Great advice here regardless what site you're using.

[Ace McNasty]

That's a ghoulish looking woman.One sugardaddy's ghoul is another one's Zendaya.

Speaking of, the IE truly has no shortage of brown and ebony sugar. Especially east of Corona. These sugar apps are loaded with AA profiles. Nothing like a gorgeous skinny 19 yo ebony baby with huge titties to drain your balls at your usual no tell hourly roach motel in Upland or Rialto LOL.

No doncoms. CIP finish only. Always. Is there any other way to fuck?

[RainySeattleGu]

Hey why'all.

Visiting the IE in the next few days, and have been chatting up this girl from Seeking that goes by Lily (adding the photos for reference). I've researched the board, and saw that others have talked to her, but there weren't too many specifics about her. Any intel would be greatly appreciated!

[Traveler8888]

Hey why'all.

Visiting the IE in the next few days, and have been chatting up this girl from Seeking that goes by Lily (adding the photos for reference). I've researched the board, and saw that others have talked to her, but there weren't too many specifics about her. Any intel would be greatly appreciated!She me a link please?

[Ddy3831]

https://members.seeking.com/member/224537d0-4537-49c8-9389-f0bdb156b21a

Also posted in the SD forum here secondary location is in Irvine, but looking for info on her has been very transactional so far thinking she's a pro, supposed to meet up with her next week, any info would be appreciated!

[Cesar66]

Hey why'all.

Visiting the IE in the next few days, and have been chatting up this girl from Seeking that goes by Lily (adding the photos for reference). I've researched the board, and saw that others have talked to her, but there weren't too many specifics about her. Any intel would be greatly appreciated!So o was supposed to meet up with her twice but both times things poped up on both our end. When we were supposed to finally meet up if text me saying "Now is not a good time" after that her seeking account disappeared. She never responded back from my text messages but she hasn't blocked me and I do see that says "read" she is married and has kids but I think she was doing this secretly. Either she decided to stop or she got caught which I'm hoping she didn't.

[RyDogg888]

https://members.seeking.com/member/224537d0-4537-49c8-9389-f0bdb156b21a

Also posted in the SD forum here secondary location is in Irvine, but looking for info on her has been very transactional so far thinking she's a pro, supposed to meet up with her next week, any info would be appreciated!I saw her, she's very transactional but real.

She drove to Ontario to meet me in a hotel and told me "I don't really want to get to know you".

Then we stripped, BBBJ and BBFS and she said bye. Haven't talked to her since.

[RichNHood]

Tagged was such a goldmine back in the day for hooking up with girls who are not real escorts. One example was this black chick I found many years back. She had a bit of an exotic look as if she was mixed with a little Ethiopian and a little shy and submissive. I like to do quick cheap meetings with girls for the first time before spending more on a longer date but my quick visit turned into an extended stay! Negotiated a BBFS session and for me to pick her up somewhere in covina and take her to a nearby no-tell motel. It was a hot day and she smelled sweaty probably from running around all day. I gave her the money to get the room and she says she added a little more to make it an overnight stay for herself. I suggest we shower together because I feel sweaty (I really didn't I just wanted her clean). She dries me off and wants me to get comfortable and starts a slow sensual BBBJ. I tell her to jump on and she rides me cowgirl getting really into it. Normally I can last a very long time with a girl riding me but I was not prepared for a long session this time and busted quickly inside her. She immediately asks do I want to go again and I said I'll need a minute, so we cuddle up for a while. At this point I know I can really have my way with her and then have her suck me again while I was browsing on my phone and playing music. She eagerly continued for over a hour while taking short breaks. We start fucking again but it was hard for me to complete so I gave up on that for now and suggested we grab some food. Ended up taking her back to her place to pick up a few items and I bought food and a bottle to bring back to the room. Ended up eating drinking and fucking for a good while. Dated a few more times but she eventually disappeared on me.

[RichNHood]

Way back in the day when craigslist allowed escorts to post there was a girl I saw post from time to time, never was interested in booking a date with her but one day I see this same girl posted a personals ad. I respond we chat up and we actually do a same day date. Not trying to brag but I was about mid 20's at the time, fit and good looking with my own place and all so pretty sure that helped sealing the deal on a date with her. I picked her up in Lake Elsinore, took her to dinner in Riverside and to my place where we had drinks and hooked up. I remember her being extremely responsive to penetration, like having a orgasm in minutes in doggie. She begged me to pull the cover off and bust in her mouth. She said she had a recent death in her family and needed a distraction from that.

She wasnt the best looking chick but it was a turn on to bang a chick for free who is charging other guys to do the same. It was short lived though, after only a couple weeks and a few hookups she flipped out over the smallest thing and told me to lose her number.

[PassYourPaper]

Good Day all! I am trying to get into the SB / SD game. I am only using Sec Ben as of the moment. I just have a few questions regarding this site.

1. does anyone had luck getting a SB in this site?

2 why the girls does not respond back. Usually they will send a message first, after I replied they don't message back. Out of 20+ convo text only 1 responded.

3. do the girls get charged if they send message?

[Nfssc]

Good Day all! I am trying to get into the SB / SD game. I am only using Sec Ben as of the moment. I just have a few questions regarding this site.

1. does anyone had luck getting a SB in this site?

2 why the girls does not respond back. Usually they will send a message first, after I replied they don't message back. Out of 20+ convo text only 1 responded.

3. do the girls get charged if they send message?It's what I've mainly used for about 2 years. A lot of people seem to hate it but I think you just have to know how to play the game to get the women to meet. I'm in my 30's and enjoy some age gaps so I've had my fun with younger and older women ranging from $$ ppm.

The more attractive and younger you go the less likely you'll get a response imo and I think they get to message for free.

[PassYourPaper]

Hello gents, how is the IE SB scene going so far?

[RichNHood]

Hello gents, how is the IE SB scene going so far?Not as hot as it was before social media made almost every other cute chick think she's an OF model who deserves a cash app deposit just to respond to your DM but theres still plenty of opportunities to woo a young impressionable chick without tossing your whole wallet at them.

[PassYourPaper]

Hey Gents,

I just want to get any info on these ladies if anyone had any experience with them. Their ads are in SecBen. Any intel would be appreciated. I attached the photos.

[Socal Mike951]

Hey Gents,

I just want to get any info on these ladies if anyone had any experience with them. Their ads are in SecBen. Any intel would be appreciated. I attached the photos.The middle one goes to UCR, or at least that's what she claims. A lot of the girls on SecBenefits use the stereotypical college girl that stays home, goes to gym and could use some help here and there story. But the little blonde one starts asking for money for first in person meet, no sex and high p p. M amount once you start hooking up, but will come after you've "built a connection". Which is a way to string you along in hopes of actually fucking while draining your wallet. Stay off secret benefits and go to SEEKING. Its more user friendly and more bang for your buck. I wrote a long post a few months back that gives some guidelines when you're out prospecting. Look for it, it will save you money and headaches. Good luck.

[Socal Mike951]

So o was supposed to meet up with her twice but both times things poped up on both our end. When we were supposed to finally meet up if text me saying "Now is not a good time" after that her seeking account disappeared. She never responded back from my text messages but she hasn't blocked me and I do see that says "read" she is married and has kids but I think she was doing this secretly. Either she decided to stop or she got caught which I'm hoping she didn't.Hi Cesar, I think we may have discussed sugaring in the Ie before, but yea. I've met up with Lily before, waste of fucking time. She's a trainwreck and always wrapped up in something. No respect for your time whatsoever. Out of the 10-15 times she set up to meet, we met only once. She flaked all the other times. Keep browsing throw SEEKING, there's way better looking girls and who are more serious about meeting up.

[PassYourPaper]

The middle one goes to UCR, or at least that's what she claims. A lot of the girls on SecBenefits use the stereotypical college girl that stays home, goes to gym and could use some help here and there story. But the little blonde one starts asking for money for first in person meet, no sex and high p p. M amount once you start hooking up, but will come after you've "built a connection". Which is a way to string you along in hopes of actually fucking while draining your wallet. Stay off secret benefits and go to SEEKING. Its more user friendly and more bang for your buck. I wrote a long post a few months back that gives some guidelines when you're out prospecting. Look for it, it will save you money and headaches. Good luck.Thanks For The info. I've been chatting with her. She is asking 400 ppm all covered. Makes me not want to meet up. LOL.

[Socal Mike951]

Thanks For The info. I've been chatting with her. She is asking 400 ppm all covered. Makes me not want to meet up. LOL.Yea now worries man, if you have any other prospects, just send me some pics in a private message. Ill let you know if I have any info on them. I stopped using the websites about a year ago because I just learned to freestyle off social media and save myself the monthly fee. But I know that for A LOT of those girls, their situations never improve so I'm sure I'll recognize some faces if I ever decide to join the websites again.

[Shoot47]

Julia.

https://members.seeking.com/member/77a43600-ba10-4f31-83d0-56139adf45e4

"I like to say I'm confident in my worth, nine hun" Like her confidence.

Rosie.

https://members.seeking.com/member/b2b21123-abd2-4a12-8425-2ac4345cbcfa

She's in Santa Monica, $$ no cover.

Angel.

https://members.seeking.com/member/5a488f02-8eb5-4b18-ae06-9b2f053d3781

A bit chubby, but pretty obedient, $$ $.

Gia.

https://members.seeking.com/member/520c28fc-83c1-4330-9804-18a491a40f0b

Wants move on to snap chat LOL, gives me a scam vibe, but she's pic verified tho.

Lillady.

https://www.secretbenefits.com/next/profile/06d7d85586ac1ad4

Needs pick up from Moreno Valley and a tight schedule, and a bit too thick for me, didn't set up.

Jackie.

https://members.seeking.com/member/cc25bb12-1d73-4220-ad9b-1b764d768f10

Wants 600, skipped.

[WhoreMaster 91]

Julia.

https://members.seeking.com/member/77a43600-ba10-4f31-83d0-56139adf45e4

"I like to say I'm confident in my worth, nine hun" Like her confidence.

Rosie.

https://members.seeking.com/member/b2b21123-abd2-4a12-8425-2ac4345cbcfa

She's in Santa Monica, $$ no cover.

Angel.

https://members.seeking.com/member/5a488f02-8eb5-4b18-ae06-9b2f053d3781

A bit chubby, but pretty obedient, $$ $.These Girls don't consider themselves Escorts?

[Shoot47]

These Girls don't consider themselves Escorts?Sugar dating, Escorting, AMP whatever they marketing themselves, their existence and our purpose are the same.

[Nfssc]

Julia.

https://members.seeking.com/member/77a43600-ba10-4f31-83d0-56139adf45e4

"I like to say I'm confident in my worth, nine hun" Like her confidence.

Rosie.

https://members.seeking.com/member/b2b21123-abd2-4a12-8425-2ac4345cbcfa

She's in Santa Monica, $$ no cover.

Angel.

https://members.seeking.com/member/5a488f02-8eb5-4b18-ae06-9b2f053d3781

A bit chubby, but pretty obedient, $$ $..I met Lillady before and she had open availability so not sure what changed. The sex could've been a little better with her being more enthusiastic but can't complain too much for something on the cheaper end with creampie. I'd maybe repeat if I wanted something younger again just to switch things up.

[Socal Mike951]

I met Lillady before and she had open availability so not sure what changed. The sex could've been a little better with her being more enthusiastic but can't complain too much for something on the cheaper end with creampie. I'd maybe repeat if I wanted something younger again just to switch things up.I like where this is going. Giving reviews and feedback on a few girls from Seeking and Secret Benefits will save everyone a lot of time. I think it will also revamp this forum a bit more. Personally, secret benefits has always been a bust for me. The only thing that's good about it is the video verification, because it helps you see the girl in real time instead of a very filtered picture. But it always shows them online but they never respond to your messages. Seeking is still the best choice imo but it's loaded with bots now and high p. Pm girls. Just got to filter through the time wasters.

[Grail47]

I like where this is going. Giving reviews and feedback on a few girls from Seeking and Secret Benefits will save everyone a lot of time. I think it will also revamp this forum a bit more. Personally, secret benefits has always been a bust for me. The only thing that's good about it is the video verification, because it helps you see the girl in real time instead of a very filtered picture. But it always shows them online but they never respond to your messages. Seeking is still the best choice imo but it's loaded with bots now and high p. Pm girls. Just got to filter through the time wasters.

I can also recommend sugardaddymeet. com (SDM), which I joined last year, has a low subscription fee and, to me, a good amount of SB's that respond and meet up. Granted, I am in the DTLA area and not IE, so there may be differences here as to the women posting in that area.

[Socal Mike951]

I can also recommend sugardaddymeet. com (SDM), which I joined last year, has a low subscription fee and, to me, a good amount of SB's that respond and meet up. Granted, I am in the DTLA area and not IE, so there may be differences here as to the women posting in that area.I've tried out SDM for like a month but unfortunately it gave me the worst ever meet with a potential SB out of Highland, CA. Complete catfish and time waster. That experience was enough to have me running back to SEEKING. I've been using FB and IG lately, got to send out a lot of messages but it's free and still having success. Works better if I've seen their faces on Sugar Baby websites, the conversations will usually go a lot smoother in that scenario. Good luck to all.

[TheHuntsman]

I like where this is going. Giving reviews and feedback on a few girls from Seeking and Secret Benefits will save everyone a lot of time. I think it will also revamp this forum a bit more. Personally, secret benefits has always been a bust for me. The only thing that's good about it is the video verification, because it helps you see the girl in real time instead of a very filtered picture. But it always shows them online but they never respond to your messages. Seeking is still the best choice imo but it's loaded with bots now and high p. Pm girls. Just got to filter through the time wasters.Well here are a few that I've either talked to or met.

https://www.secretbenefits.com/next/profile/371978f98cc6c667

Met her. Really petite little body. She will do 300. Although I think she has some mental issues and body dysmorphia from what I can gather from checking out her FB page.

https://www.secretbenefits.com/next/profile/6d3153d49e66df83

This is Steph. I talked to her a few years ago, but she freaked out when I countered her offer. She went into a huge rant that I was trying to rip her off. Fast forward to present day and I messaged her again. I couldn't remember how much she wanted but then she quoted me 400 and that's just too much. SB doesn't update ages, so she is older than her profile says. Plus she has 3-4 kids. I remember she once accidentally sent me a fwd message between her and her kids' daddy arguing over paying for their karate classes. Also she said she can't go lower than 400 because this is her only job.

https://www.secretbenefits.com/next/profile/c8d83098590c2840

Did a meet and greet with her. Cute and bubbly. We agreed upon 300, but then a week later she asked for 500. I said that's too much and if she changes her mind hit me up. 500 is too much for anyone, but especially for a girl that says she wants a mommy make-over. That already says under the clothes needs a lot of work.

https://www.secretbenefits.com/next/profile/2c69b2b0f5e38e9c

Kathy. 19 yr old college student. Super flaky. Would randomly text me asking "wyd" when it's the middle of the week and mid-morning. I'm at work. Where else would I be? Anyway, she would send random texts saying hi and then not reply back for hours or days. Would ask when can we meet up and I would ask when are you free and then vanished. I did reverse search her number and it does belong to a her person with her name. So I am guessing she is real, but guess she's just a flake.

https://www.secretbenefits.com/next/profile/c82a5d940f84af21

Lacy. We were texting and I suggested we meet to see how we click. She said that that would cost because she doesn't meet for free. Then I asked how much for everything and she quoted me 400. Which is way too much. Did a reverse phone lookup for her and found her IG. Saw she is a bit heavier then her pics totally show. Also that she has a bf. She seems a bit suspicious because her and her bf are always flashing big wads of cash on their IG.

[WhoreMaster 91]

I've tried out SDM for like a month but unfortunately it gave me the worst ever meet with a potential SB out of Highland, CA. Complete catfish and time waster. That experience was enough to have me running back to SEEKING. I've been using FB and IG lately, got to send out a lot of messages but it's free and still having success. Works better if I've seen their faces on Sugar Baby websites, the conversations will usually go a lot smoother in that scenario. Good luck to all.What do you usually message IG Girls for meets?

[Grail47]

I've tried out SDM for like a month but unfortunately it gave me the worst ever meet with a potential SB out of Highland, CA. Complete catfish and time waster. That experience was enough to have me running back to SEEKING. I've been using FB and IG lately, got to send out a lot of messages but it's free and still having success. Works better if I've seen their faces on Sugar Baby websites, the conversations will usually go a lot smoother in that scenario. Good luck to all.

That's a bummer about your bad experience on SDM, although I got to figure that's the exception more than the rule. I wonder if it has to do with location as well, such as LA versus the more rural area outside the city proper.

What's bumming me out lately is the profiles that just seem to be abandoned. With no "last activity date" on SDM, I have no idea if the girl has ever logged back in after creating the profile. I will message and receive no reply. The other annoying thing is what happens on all the SB sites - some initial messaging, followed by ghosting or radio silence. I've sometimes sent another message after a week or so to check in, but still nothing, so I wonder if they got cold feet or found another SD. I'm not that mad about it, as I have a roster of 3-4 SB's that I see regularly and they're all lovely and fun women, so I'm not lacking for connection!

[Socal Mike951]

Well here are a few that I've either talked to or met.

https://www.secretbenefits.com/next/profile/371978f98cc6c667

Met her. Really petite little body. She will do 300. Although I think she has some mental issues and body dysmorphia from what I can gather from checking out her FB page.

https://www.secretbenefits.com/next/profile/6d3153d49e66df83

This is Steph. I talked to her a few years ago, but she freaked out when I countered her offer. She went into a huge rant that I was trying to rip her off. Fast forward to present day and I messaged her again. I couldn't remember how much she wanted but then she quoted me 400 and that's just too much. SB doesn't update ages, so she is older than her profile says. Plus she has 3-4 kids. I remember she once accidentally sent me a fwd message between her and her kids' daddy arguing over paying for their karate classes. Also she said she can't go lower than 400 because this is her only job..Yea man, all of those quotes are way too high for me to even consider meeting with them. Secondly, those girls are maybe 6's and 7's at best. Nothing is worse than a mid-looking girl that's expecting top tier p. Pm amounts. I've done meets for 60-100 with local broke college students in the area through SEEKING, FB and IG. It's a numbers game but I appreciate the reviews. I'll post of mine soon.

[Socal Mike951]

What do you usually message IG Girls for meets?You got to look out for trainwreck behavior. Just check out their profiles on Ig or FB and see right through their lifestyle. I usually ask "hey did you need some help?" or " are you a sugar baby? Do you do meetups?" Sometimes they right away respond with their cash app code or Venmo but honestly, just have a conversation with them and find out their situation. Like where they stay at, do they have a car, could they use some financial help, are they open to an arrangement? I always say its "you help me, I help you out arrangement".

[Nfssc]

Well here are a few that I've either talked to or met.

https://www.secretbenefits.com/next/profile/371978f98cc6c667

Met her. Really petite little body. She will do 300. Although I think she has some mental issues and body dysmorphia from what I can gather from checking out her FB page.

https://www.secretbenefits.com/next/profile/6d3153d49e66df83

This is Steph. I talked to her a few years ago, but she freaked out when I countered her offer. She went into a huge rant that I was trying to rip her off. Fast forward to present day and I messaged her again. I couldn't remember how much she wanted but then she quoted me 400 and that's just too much. SB doesn't update ages, so she is older than her profile says. Plus she has 3-4 kids. I remember she once accidentally sent me a fwd message between her and her kids' daddy arguing over paying for their karate classes. Also she said she can't go lower than 400 because this is her only job.

https://www.secretbenefits.com/next/profile/c8d83098590c2840

Did a meet and greet with her. Cute and bubbly. We agreed upon 300, but then a week later she asked for 500. I said that's too much and if she changes her mind hit me up. 500 is too much for anyone, but especially for a girl that says she wants a mommy make-over. That already says under the clothes needs a lot of work.

https://www.secretbenefits.com/next/profile/2c69b2b0f5e38e9c

Kathy. 19 yr old college student. Super flaky. Would randomly text me asking "wyd" when it's the middle of the week and mid-morning. I'm at work. Where else would I be? Anyway, she would send random texts saying hi and then not reply back for hours or days. Would ask when can we meet up and I would ask when are you free and then vanished. I did reverse search her number and it does belong to a her person with her name. So I am guessing she is real, but guess she's just a flake.

https://www.secretbenefits.com/next/profile/c82a5d940f84af21

Lacy. We were texting and I suggested we meet to see how we click. She said that that would cost because she doesn't meet for free. Then I asked how much for everything and she quoted me 400. Which is way too much. Did a reverse phone lookup for her and found her IG. Saw she is a bit heavier then her pics totally show. Also that she has a bf. She seems a bit suspicious because her and her bf are always flashing big wads of cash on their IG.I messaged Kathy before but at the time it seemed she was mainly only into selling content cause she found a sucker willing to pay for that instead of meets. I want to say someone from her nursing program probably told her about sugaring.

[Socal Mike951]

Crystal, she's down to text and share xxx vids for free but hesitant to meet. She's got some mental issues, something about a car accident when she was younger. She can't drive and she's got a pretty nasty scar across her mouth from the accident. The amount to meet isn't too crazy, like 100-200 but she's all over the place and will flake almost every time.

https://members.seeking.com/member/dd75aa78-6b1b-4819-aa94-f253a30ba961

Alyssa, I met her back in 2023 when she was much smaller. She's a young raver in the area but a simple google search of her name and her IG will pop up. She's gotten huge, like unhealthy huge for age. Also, big time alcoholic. She doesn't have any DUIs yet but she's crashed a bunch of times.

https://members.seeking.com/member/6a5d5e20-47c0-4275-81e4-023503fdbc8d

Nikolena, she moved out here from Utah a couple months ago. She sells content and used to do meets. I met with her a couple times when she just moved to the IE but she told me recently she wasnt doing meets anymore. That will prob change because you can only make so much from content is my guess. She's got BPD and will kinda just say the most out of pocket stuff at times. She doesn't have a car and will be down to meet at the most random times of the night / day. She hasn't been on the website in like a month but with these type of girls, their situation rarely improves so who knows, you might get lucky if she's in a bind.

https://members.seeking.com/member/f2e7758e-2117-428e-b0e3-1e0b41b50ad9

Alyssa, also moved out to California from Oklahoma. Single mom, two kids. I met up with her using Hinge, just recognized her from the website. She wanted to meet that exact moment that I messaged her and we did. It was great and not expensive at all considering we met at her apt and she's really attractive. It was a one time thing, after that one time, she would respond to one message and then go ghost. IF you're able to get her to commit to meeting right then and there, go for it. Really feminine and amazing in bed. Just don't think it will be consistent because of her personal life.

https://members.seeking.com/member/258ae7bf-1fa4-4f51-9777-a3026e66b3f3

[FarFarAway]

Crystal, she's down to text and share xxx vids for free but hesitant to meet. She's got some mental issues, something about a car accident when she was younger. She can't drive and she's got a pretty nasty scar across her mouth from the accident. The amount to meet isn't too crazy, like 100-200 but she's all over the place and will flake almost every time.

https://members.seeking.com/member/dd75aa78-6b1b-4819-aa94-f253a30ba961

Thanks for the info. The farthest I got was messaging on the site I think. I like her look for sure. You can't see that scar in her profile pix.

[Socal Mike951]

Thanks for the info. The farthest I got was messaging on the site I think. I like her look for sure. You can't see that scar in her profile pix.Check out her profile on secret benefits. She has a verification video on there and her scar is actually pretty big. If you ever have any doubts about the girls on SA, open up an account on secret benefits and sometimes the girls will have a profile on there too along with video. Lets you really see them better.

[Socal Mike951]

Mila: really cute, petite, not too expensive but I last met with her in November. She might have gone up since then. She has BPD, cuts herself a lot (you can see her scars everywhere), takes a handful of prescription pills daily. She's down for GFE but she's a trainwreck to manage. Like she's horrible with time and always on her phone when she's with you. I met with her a few times but cut her loose. I prefer to have something with someone who values my time a bit more. She's also a big time cokehead and doesn't have a car. That might work in your favor, more leverage for a better p. Pm.

https://members.seeking.com/member/039aff40-2e6d-4650-8b43-cb6fe6b525fc

Michelle: over the hill party girl. She has a really cute slim body, a bunch of nasty tattoos all over it though but still pretty. Loves coke and raves. She's just the typical party girl that doesn't know the party ended a while ago. She's always needing money for the next festival, next rave. But the crazy part is. Her pussy is blownnn out. Like I couldn't believe how much loose skin was out, too many djs and club promoters she's fucked or something. She's down for car dates and you can always negotiate with her since she works a regular job but always need money to feed her party lifestyle. Wouldn't be my regular since I prefer someone a little tighter and less run though.

https://members.seeking.com/member/4cce6437-c29e-4d92-9f1f-2f851a7b9871

Lena: I've seen her on sugar websites and dating apps. Never met up with her, just messaged her back and forth. A waste of fucking time in my opinion. Didn't want to send recent pics, didn't want to schedule to meet. Another party girl that's looking for money to get dumped into her account magically or something. Good luck with her if she messages you on any website.

https://members.seeking.com/member/5c43fad4-31b4-4fcd-ac09-a3ad14f0c06a

[Socal Mike951]

The chick below used to sell pussy a while back but also xxx content. I recently came across an album online with a few vids of her, on a website where users can upload their own stuff. Wondering if any of you guys may have stumbled across xxx content or purchased some from her. She stayed in Jurupa Valley.

[KevAustin]

Mila: really cute, petite, not too expensive but I last met with her in November. She might have gone up since then. She has BPD, cuts herself a lot (you can see her scars everywhere), takes a handful of prescription pills daily. She's down for GFE but she's a trainwreck to manage. Like she's horrible with time and always on her phone when she's with you. I met with her a few times but cut her loose. I prefer to have something with someone who values my time a bit more. She's also a big time cokehead and doesn't have a car. That might work in your favor, more leverage for a better p. Pm.

https://members.seeking.com/member/039aff40-2e6d-4650-8b43-cb6fe6b525fc
Long-time lurker, not sure if this is the norm in IE, she's asking for 800-$1 K now unfortunately.

[Socal Mike951]

Long-time lurker, not sure if this is the norm in IE, she's asking for 800-$1 K now unfortunately.Hey KevAustin, yea I'm not surprised by that. Right before I cut her loose, she mentioned she had met a "real sugar daddy" in Los Angeles that was giving her 2.5 k twice a month. She's prob just trying to feel you out to see if you'll bite, but honestly, her BPD affects all her decision making. Just offer 100 for car meet and tell her you can pick her up. She always needs money because of her coke problem and trips to the casino. Tell her just save your number in case she's ever down bad and that you'll be around.

[PassYourPaper]

Hello Gents,

Anyone had info on her? Kindly share your experience.

https://www.secretbenefits.com/next/profile/v01kcUhMTowYTLXHWd_ZKqZdT5C0ok6SCsgy

[Nfssc]

Hello Gents,

Anyone had info on her? Kindly share your experience.

https://www.secretbenefits.com/next/profile/v01kcUhMTowYTLXHWd_ZKqZdT5C0ok6SCsgyI think they changed how URLs are shared. It's coming up blank for me.

[PassYourPaper]

I think they changed how URLs are shared. It's coming up blank for me.My bad. Photo attached.

[PassYourPaper]

How is everyone's experience with sugardaddymeet? They just increased the premium monthly fee from 50 to 160. Is it worth it?

[Socal Mike951]

How is everyone's experience with sugardaddymeet? They just increased the premium monthly fee from 50 to 160. Is it worth it?I felt like there was more upsell on top of the monthly fee, like if you want to filter the girls to your location. More $. I got in on a summer special on SEEKING like 2 weeks ago for $90 bucks, unlimited messaging. Already met up with 2 chicks, not too pricey. I'll cancel the membership before it renews. But in the meantime, I try to make sure I get as many numbers as possible. They always end up hitting me up when they're hurting for money.

[Socal Mike951]

Yesterday, I finally met up with a girl I had been going back and forth on FB with. I came across her on FB dating and started the convo with did she need help? This has been like a 3 month process due to flaking and her having surgery. Long story short, she catfished me and turned out to have a not so good attitude, tried to scam me at the end saying I had promised more through txt. She pulled out her messages and got caught in her own lie when the txts showed I had agreed to a smaller amount for shorter hangouts. She doubled down and was like "oh come on, we didn't chill for 30 minutes, we chilled for like an hour. Thats worth way more" lmao In her picture, she looked like a petite 23 year old chola girl from riverside. It was def the same girl but reasonably heavier. That's when it clicked, I didn't push enough for xxx pictures and her profile only had one, but my horniness caused me forget my rules of thumb and met up with her anyways. Guys, be WEARY. If the girl isn't willing to show the goods through pictures before meeting with her, its for a reason! I messed up and ended up having a horrible experience. Add that to her upselling and less than mid sex, all around bad experience. Learn from my mistakes and good luck out there.

[Grail47]

How is everyone's experience with sugardaddymeet? They just increased the premium monthly fee from 50 to 160. Is it worth it?I joined SDM last year and it was the only site where I had a premium subscription. They had the best 1 month rate. I've met with a number of great girls, some of them I still maintain relationships with, so for it's been a good experience overall. Of course, I've had scenarios of messages that don't get responses, misaligned needs, flakes and even a scam or two, but that's par for the course on any of these sites, not just SDM. Recently. I've had one girl flake on me twice, another ghost me after 1 meet and of several other new SB's, I hope to keep seeing at least one of them consistently.

My subscription ran out last week and I was planning on going on hiatus for a month or so, as I often do. But once I saw that the cost to renew for a month had more than tripled, I was so aggravated and considering never subscribing again to SDM. I'm now checking out Sugarbook, how it works and who's on there and might subscribe for a month. Anyone here want to share feedback on Sugarbook?

[IAmBM]

If you fellas hang out in Victorville. This one is a scam. Stay away. Found on SB.

[JohnCoop]

You can do a whole lot better than that group in the IE. Where are you hunting? Try other apps like SB, SDM and SecBen. Don't just restrict yourself to SA. The IE has lots of young single Moms. Both Latinas and white girls.

One of my current ones is a 20 yo Cuban girl, skin and bones just like the way I prefer. From the Upland-San Bern area. All bare, no condoms, and she lets me CIP because I'm neutered.Ace, not familiar with these app names, can you explain what they are? I know this is an old thread too so may also be outdated at this point LOL.

[CaddyShack1975]

Hey ever just getting back after decades, and I joined SB. I don't have time to really put in a lot of energy try to find the good girls for low cost. I first was blunt with like 50 girls and had 1 that seemed legit, 32 yo only weekdays and no nights and weekends. Got a price for $300 for 2 hours BB and set it up. The day of I don't get a confirmation and she ghosted me. Nothing seemed like scam but oh well. I messaged an Hx provider instead.

Another one messaged me that's a 37 yo skinny Mexican with lots of tattoos, not sure though bc I asked about bare and she was like huh? I was like Bareback and she didn't really know. Idk if she's been fucked bare her whole life or what. She said cool and $300 for 4 hours. She is pretty trashy looking though. Thought about hitter her up free the first ghosted but a little to skanky at the moment.

Found another that didn't want bare and was like thick and 35 yo. So I passed.

I know ask what kind of help the are looking for and what arrangement they are looking to get into at the moment. That might get more engagement to break the ice. I always try and find wants that say discreet, nsa but also ones that say looking for help.

These girls have to Bertrand that guys want to pay them for sex right?

[Ace McNasty]

Ace, not familiar with these app names, can you explain what they are? I know this is an old thread too so may also be outdated at this point LOL.I started sugaring in 2016. Never even heard of USASG until 2019. So I had to learn on my own for 3 years. As soon as I signed up here, I immediately went to the Richmond SB-SD forum which is the de facto Bible of sugaring in this website. So I suggest you do the same and you have a lot of reading to do--1000 pages of reports and 24,000+ posts from hundreds or thousands of sugar daddy members.

That being said, while Seeking (Arrangement) is still the industry standard, many others exist so don't put all your eggs in one basket. Some examples mentioned here are What's Your Price, Secret Benefits, Sugar Life Now, etc, etc. I travel for business and have used Sugar Daddy Meet (SDM) out of Cali. They been around since 2007. Plenty of posts about this app. I have posted several SB's from SDM, one of them this 19 Asian below. Had to pay the HYAG tax so she expensive LOL.

Summary: Read the Richmond thread. Join as many sites as you can. A girl posting on one site will post on many others.

[JohnCoop]

Hey ever just getting back after decades, and I joined SB. I don't have time to really put in a lot of energy try to find the good girls for low cost. I first was blunt with like 50 girls and had 1 that seemed legit, 32 yo only weekdays and no nights and weekends. Got a price for $300 for 2 hours BB and set it up. The day of I don't get a confirmation and she ghosted me. Nothing seemed like scam but oh well. I messaged an Hx provider instead.

Another one messaged me that's a 37 yo skinny Mexican with lots of tattoos, not sure though bc I asked about bare and she was like huh? I was like Bareback and she didn't really know. Idk if she's been fucked bare her whole life or what. She said cool and $300 for 4 hours. She is pretty trashy looking though. Thought about hitter her up free the first ghosted but a little to skanky at the moment.

Found another that didn't want bare and was like thick and 35 yo. So I passed.

I know ask what kind of help the are looking for and what arrangement they are looking to get into at the moment. That might get more engagement to break the ice. I always try and find wants that say discreet, nsa but also ones that say looking for help.

These girls have to Bertrand that guys want to pay them for sex right?Yowch! I feel you're bumping the prices up man where are you finding your girls other than Hx?

[JohnCoop]

You got to look out for trainwreck behavior. Just check out their profiles on Ig or FB and see right through their lifestyle. I usually ask "hey did you need some help?" or " are you a sugar baby? Do you do meetups?" Sometimes they right away respond with their cash app code or Venmo but honestly, just have a conversation with them and find out their situation. Like where they stay at, do they have a car, could they use some financial help, are they open to an arrangement? I always say its "you help me, I help you out arrangement".How do you avoid getting flagged and banned though? I stupidly messaged one of my potential tenants who met the exact description of a trainwreck, posting that she's going to be evicted soon, that she hates her job due to low hours and crappy boss, wanting to keep her kittens but can't afford them etc. She seemed receptive though after messaging her, once we got to the price though it seemed too low for her and get blocked me. Then I couldn't log into my account and insta said it was done due to sex stuff but I could request a review. I went ahead and did so but it didn't go through. Thankfully I don't do social much and even though it was a 20 yr account it wasn't a huge hit and I just created another account.

[CaddyShack1975]

Yowch! I feel you're bumping the prices up man where are you finding your girls other than Hx?Basically just Hx. Idk I feel $300 for 2 hrs isn't bad, I won't use all of it though. The one that said 4 hr for $300 I am sure would go down to $200 or maybe less, she hit me up again so she seems desperate. What is the going rate for SB?

[Socal Mike951]

How do you avoid getting flagged and banned though? I stupidly messaged one of my potential tenants who met the exact description of a trainwreck, posting that she's going to be evicted soon, that she hates her job due to low hours and crappy boss, wanting to keep her kittens but can't afford them etc. She seemed receptive though after messaging her, once we got to the price though it seemed too low for her and get blocked me. Then I couldn't log into my account and insta said it was done due to sex stuff but I could request a review. I went ahead and did so but it didn't go through. Thankfully I don't do social much and even though it was a 20 yr account it wasn't a huge hit and I just created another account.Download Google voice or a free texting app, and immediately take the conversation offline. I even got kicked off HINGE for discussing sugaring LOL SEEKING is pretty fast to flag you as well. I didn't know instagram suspended accounts. But I repeat, immediately the conversation offline.

[MWildman23]

Download Google voice or a free texting app, and immediately take the conversation offline. I even got kicked off HINGE for discussing sugaring LOL SEEKING is pretty fast to flag you as well. I didn't know instagram suspended accounts. But I repeat, immediately the conversation offline.Just some info on the texting apps out there for everyone.

Google Voice: the best of the bunch, but it does have to be tied to real phone number. You can customize how you receive messages in case you're trying to hide things from a significant other.

Pinger / Textfree: Solid app. Allows you to customize your VM and switch numbers on the fly when you need to lose a stalkerish chick. You can even have multiple numbers if you use different email addresses to set up accounts. Biggest downside is that texts and pictures will randomly not come through.

Textnow: Almost as good as Google Voice without being tied to a phone number. The biggest drawback is without paying for the app, there is no way to go DND. Use at your own risk.

[JohnCoop]

Basically just Hx. Idk I feel $300 for 2 hrs isn't bad, I won't use all of it though. The one that said 4 hr for $300 I am sure would go down to $200 or maybe less, she hit me up again so she seems desperate. What is the going rate for SB?I think it's just me tbh, I can never go a 2nd round with the girls I'm with. Even back in the day I would ask "80 for 2 pops?" but never followed through. It's not a matter of getting hard either, for instance I normally do 3 a day right after work but with different girls, all semi close to each other. I just immediately lose interest once I'm done with the current one once I blow. But I would definitely not be able to do $600 a day LOL I max out at 40 a girl.

[JohnCoop]

Download Google voice or a free texting app, and immediately take the conversation offline. I even got kicked off HINGE for discussing sugaring LOL SEEKING is pretty fast to flag you as well. I didn't know instagram suspended accounts. But I repeat, immediately the conversation offline.I guess that would have helped with the review if I had them investigate but yeah I think she flagged me herself. You're right though, I should have given my Gnumber to call instead.

[CaddyShack1975]

I think it's just me tbh, I can never go a 2nd round with the girls I'm with. Even back in the day I would ask "80 for 2 pops?" but never followed through. It's not a matter of getting hard either, for instance I normally do 3 a day right after work but with different girls, all semi close to each other. I just immediately lose interest once I'm done with the current one once I blow. But I would definitely not be able to do $600 a day LOL I max out at 40 a girl.Damn, girls are taking $40 a meetup? Messaged 2 on seeking both mid 20's, one wanted $600 told her way too much, another wanted $700 all covered, she then cam down to $300. LOL. It's like WTF. One on SB is like 37 yo and thicker-she probably agree to $200 or less. Shit I message 50+ girls I only need a couple to say yes. At first I wanted to meet, now I'm kind of like WTF are these girls thinking wanting so much.

[JohnCoop]

Damn, girls are taking $40 a meetup? Messaged 2 on seeking both mid 20's, one wanted $600 told her way too much, another wanted $700 all covered, she then cam down to $300. LOL. It's like WTF. One on SB is like 37 yo and thicker-she probably agree to $200 or less. Shit I message 50+ girls I only need a couple to say yes. At first I wanted to meet, now I'm kind of like WTF are these girls thinking wanting so much.Keep in mind, at least for the ones I'm talking about, aren't pros. One of them has started to learn about the online scene after she started dancing, I'm guessing her friends told her about it. Other's I've been seeing for years and some I just happen to find wandering the streets LOL But yeah, over 120 for me would be unsustainable since I see like 3 ish a day.

EDIT: Just realized I was repeating myself in my reply to you lol

[Grail47]

Keep in mind, at least for the ones I'm talking about, aren't pros. One of them has started to learn about the online scene after she started dancing, I'm guessing her friends told her about it. Other's I've been seeing for years and some I just happen to find wandering the streets LOL But yeah, over 120 for me would be unsustainable since I see like 3 ish a day.

EDIT: Just realized I was repeating myself in my reply to you lolMy goodness, three girls a day, every day? Wow, I sometimes wonder if I'm overindulging when I see 3 SB's in a week, but I guess I'm on the low end of this scale! .

[CaddyShack1975]

IDK, these prices for the services they want to provide I just don't get it seems expensive. Are these girls making money? I have found 2 BBFS for $300 but I also have to get a room.

$400 - bbj but cfs, multiple hours plus pay for a room in Victorville, I told her I thought it would be $150 if I have to get a room and she got mad.

I have had about 10 girls from $400-600 some cfs, the more expensive I didn't bother asking bc I am adding like $75 for a room on top of it.

[JohnCoop]

My goodness, three girls a day, every day? Wow, I sometimes wonder if I'm overindulging when I see 3 SB's in a week, but I guess I'm on the low end of this scale! .Yeah, lately I've found I have to knock out once I get home though LOL I've started to take caffeine pills to help out after I get home though.

[JohnCoop]

IDK, these prices for the services they want to provide I just don't get it seems expensive. Are these girls making money? I have found 2 BBFS for $300 but I also have to get a room.

$400 - bbj but cfs, multiple hours plus pay for a room in Victorville, I told her I thought it would be $150 if I have to get a room and she got mad.

I have had about 10 girls from $400-600 some cfs, the more expensive I didn't bother asking bc I am adding like $75 for a room on top of it.For those prices yeah I would think a room would be included. I mean if fitvietmilf is only asking for what she asks and she's providing a room as well you would think these high end ones would include the room too, hell even homeless girls provide a tent LOL.

[CaddyShack1975]

So what do you do when a girl wants pics of you? Do you send a pic of your face? I have a picture with my face blurred and I tell them I am cool with meeting in public so they can check me out.

[JohnCoop]

So what do you do when a girl wants pics of you? Do you send a pic of your face? I have a picture with my face blurred and I tell them I am cool with meeting in public so they can check me out.Yeah, this has always been a question that I've debated on in my head, I honestly don't know. For some girls, I'll do it if I'm abroad as that's less of a blowback if it ever hits social media but other girls I give a hard no. There's this one girl for example who I showed an apartment to earlier this year. She had that look, you know the one, and so I made a mental note to reach out to her on my burner once she's more than likely forgotten my face. After a bit of back and forth and my stating that I actually wouldn't be in the area she was actually staying at she finally agreed to some anal, albeit in my car. I had given her the story that we had met a while back and she had given me her number. Driving to her she then texts me letting me know she wants a pic first and that's where I had to decline just in case she remembered me. Had to go to my other side chick instead but these are the situations that give me pause.

With AI though I guess you could create a similar enough looking pic of yourself where it's not actually you but similar enough to where they won't say anything when meeting in person but I don't like feeding the machine either so am firmly against that too + what if she wants another right after to prove it's not fake and the background is slightly different at that point?

[Mondo72]

So what do you do when a girl wants pics of you? Do you send a pic of your face? I have a picture with my face blurred and I tell them I am cool with meeting in public so they can check me out.Recently I discover you can send a pix thru WhatsApp and set it to disappear with a time limit you pick. Anywhere from 30 seconds to an hour.

That's what I do nowadays.

Mondo.

[CaddyShack1975]

I sent a couple girls pics. I was thinking who cares if they have a pic of me, I have no social media pics of me, I work for myself so employer doesn't matter, I use a prepaid phone, the pic I send isn't anywhere on the internet.

I think on SB the picture deletes after 24 hrs, I sent one with my face blurred and it was gone the next day.

[FarFarAway]

I sent a couple girls pics. I was thinking who cares if they have a pic of me, I have no social media pics of me, I work for myself so employer doesn't matter, I use a prepaid phone, the pic I send isn't anywhere on the internet.

I think on SB the picture deletes after 24 hrs, I sent one with my face blurred and it was gone the next day.The problem isn't the pic you send, it is them using it for facial recognition to find other postings of other pics that have your personal identifying information. This is widely discussed on other sugar threads. Northern Virginia has a thread specifically on Operational Security that covers it as well.

It can't possible hurt to exercise a little big of caution to prevent a pissed of sugar baby or maybe her BF or husband from showing up at your house.

[FarFarAway]

Motel. I need one in the Riverside / Moreno Valley area. Ideally not a dive. As far upscale as you can get, really, without having to give I'd and credit card.

[RichNHood]

Fired up tagged. A dying dinosaur. Back in the day I grabbed some of my most memorable connections off that site / app because you are dealing with women who typically not a pro but just a young impressionable chick enticed by earning some money. It always was a a low success rate between those who don't respond at all, reject you, try to get you to cash app them right off the bat, or quote some crazy high # but hey its free to just message all the women on there and seeing who bites.

Well even worse now as the site is dying and even more buggy than before. Through all I messaged I had 3 leads. 1 who was ok with a BBFS quick meet for 120 but her profile disappeared before we can meet. The second was ok for a 200 meet no BBFS 300 BBFS but she wasnt nearly cute enough for me to bite on that. I tried to get her down to like 200 BBFS which was even a stretch for how she looked but she apparently blocked me. The third was a success. 20 year old who offered 180 BBFS quick meet but it was also a car date which is a bit steep in my book but wanted to try a fresh chick who was not from a escort site. Picked her up from a suburb, most likely still living with parents when we find a spot to park and get in back seat I ask does she want her kitty licked and she happily accepts. I go at that for well over 15 minutes until she cums. I then start stroking her down in mish and she's really into. We switch to cowgirl, try to do doggy but too hard to do in the car and then I finish in mish, probably a 35 min date. Definitely a chick I wanted to pursue more and she hits me up just one day later with a "hey". We were messaging on tagged only when she ignored my request earlier on to switch to text. I meant to get her number in person but totally forgot as I was too focused on working her out which turned out to be a big mistake as her profile has completely disappeared from tagged too.

[CaddyShack1975]

Finally pulled the trigger on one of the first couple people to give me a price on SB. My schedule has been too busy to really schedule a meet, so enough time went by and all my SB conversations were reset / deleted. I knew enough to narrow her down and messaged her. The meet was $$$ and she is like 37 yo Latina semi cholaish, piercings and lots of tattoos. She is up for anything. Bbfscip. Between her and Hx providers, she might be the best I've had so far.

A 25 year old got back to me but she is $6 oo ppm, she is pretty good looking though but I have tried to negotiate yet. She then messages me asking how many times I'm going to cip.