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Yoshi,
Yep New Casino has alot of girls and most of them are really attractive. And I've sat with a couple of the younger, sexier ones and gotten some play, got alot of touching, hands in their panties, and nipple sucking. You can also get them to go into the karaoke room with you. Usually the price starts at $$$ but you can negotiate. Might not be worth it to go that far, but I had lotsa fun in the rooms.
Turboman808
02-09-06, 21:14
You do not want a real relationship with these girl's, they will eventually burn you hard. The trick is to make them think it's a real relationship when you know it's only a sexual relationship. If you fall emotionally for one of these girls, trust me, it's only lust and not love. Both of us are not the marrying type but love the chase of some fondling or offsite sex (if our charm works that night). Had a KB-girlfriend for 5 years and she told me a lot about the games. Most (99%) if not all the girls that work in bars have some sort of serious mental/financial/emotional baggage. Asian's have pride, to work in bar is degrading, but neccessary because of their situations. That's how desparate and screwed-up they are. They will do what they need to, to make $. My girlfriend says, If a girl likes you (relationship-wise) she will not ask you to buy her drinks, after the 1st meeting. She knows from the 1st meeting if there's a attraction to you or just your money from the 1st time she sits with you. 20% of the girls are looking for a relationship. Out of that 20%, 15% want you to totally take care of them (mainly financial), so only 5% want a normal 50/50 relationship. Korean view sex as very sacred, most won't give it up unless you are marriage material. The most useful thing my girlfriend said was, men think the girl has power because of her p*s*y, but the girl's know the man has the power because he has the money. The girl's also know men think with their small heads 1st, therefore, the bar's keep going on, and your wallet keeps shrinking. The pretty one's know they are pretty and can get away with less giving-in. If you don't get what you want the 1st night, move on. The girl's will catch on, they are smarter than you think, and we'll get more bang for our bucks. And we all need more bang! Hope this helps. It's a battle of wills. And reading the posts, the girl's will to keep their knees together seems to winning over our will to think with our big heads.Great post, Localmoko! It certainly clears up some of the questions I've had when interacting with K-girls.
A co-worker of mine many years ago had an unusually difficult girlfriend (non-Korean) and he would always wonder aloud: "Is the f**king worth the f**king?" Funny, but it still applies today!
My next door neighbor just had his K-girl girlfriend move in. I have already heard the raging arguments they've had. I hope he knows what kind of ride he's in for!
Thanks again for the great post. Hope to read more from you soon.
Aloha,
Turboman
Good one localmoko. I knew pretty much the same thing, but that thing about not getting anything the first night and moving on I don't know about that. Sometimes it takes maybe 2 or three times to get what you want. But I agree with you that most guys wait to long (months) and by then the money is gone. And yes most of them do have baggage, BIG bags. Hahaha.
Yoshi,
Yep New Casino has alot of girls and most of them are really attractive. And I've sat with a couple of the younger, sexier ones and gotten some play, got alot of touching, hands in their panties, and nipple sucking. You can also get them to go into the karaoke room with you. Usually the price starts at $$$ but you can negotiate. Might not be worth it to go that far, but I had lotsa fun in the rooms.
FYI. Lots of the girls at New Casino are married.
John,
Thanks for the info. I try not to get too close to the KB, VB girls not looking for a relationship or anything of that sort with them. I just enjoy playing with them in the booths and every now and then in the karaoke room.
I'm not trying to force feed my theory on anyone but I stand by my "if you don't get what you want the 1st time, dump'em". Because your expectations are too high or not realistic enough and the word potential and false expectations is a very dangerous thing in the bar scene (money-wise). That's what Mama teaches the girl's from the start. Potential customer, money-wise not sex-wise. She brainwahes the girl's into believing, "once they have sex with you they'll dump you". They are on to our game. Know the enemy. Just one more drink means, they need one more to make them braver/drunker to tell you NO. And the more drinks a customer buys them, the more courage (alcohol) they need to say NO not the more potential you have to get sex. Tatoo this on your wallet. My ex says, if girls like you, you have a good chance for sex. If she likes you, she will not ask you to buy her drinks. She will instead buy you drinks. My ex says, you can take that to the bank. If a Korean girls wants something, she wants it NOW, and she WILL spend for it if she has to. If she wants sex with you because she is horny, you will know. If she wants a relationship with you, you will know. If she just wants your money, you will know. If you don't know know what she wants, she wants your money over a long haul. You ever saw these girls at a host bar? My Viet/Korean friend used to work as a host. That's what gave me a false idea of what these girl's are like . . . all the wild stories I heard from him. I thought they were all sexual nymphos but the truth is, they like the tease and not the sex. They go wild, spending money for the thrill, but they never go home with the host. Sex means relationship, and relationship means loss of power and freedom to the boyfriend. Everything they tried to escape when they moved to the US. They cherish their new freedom and power (making money) which gives them status (buying Vuitton). Never underestimate the girl's knowledge of potential. Potential to milk you. If she knows you like her, you're dead meat. Just like the NBA high school draft stars. Lots of potential, but you gotta pay so much up front just to find out. They get all the attention and money (just like the young/sexy/hotties) and we eventually find out, they don't got game. And for the few Kobe's and LaBron's out there, us normal guys don't have enough bucks or the looks to lure them to our team. Remember these are young girls, and I see it with my daughters. Looks and image is everything when you're that young. Angelina goes for Brad, Brittney goes for Kevin, J-Lo goes for . . . If you don't got the looks, she would never want to sleep with you. But believe me, you don't want to get involved (sex) with the hotties. Just booth play with'em (I'll post more about play later) but stop before the sex. The one's that got this far on looks are the most emotionally disturbed. Korean's view sex as a relationship. You'll be stuck with a basket-case for a while (having sex) BUT when it comes time to break up . . . ever heard the phrase "there's nothing like a women's scorn'? Well try a Korean woman's "chili pepper" scorn. You won't be able to walk within a 1,000 feet of that bar, you should remove the deductable from your car insurance, always carry 4 spare tires in your trunk, and sign up for the life-time warranty at Acme auto painting. If you want pure sex, go to an AMP. If you want to experience a relationship/sex, my ex says to pick the plainer, librarian-type girls, they are the most stable and non-agressive. But you have to sell them that's it's a relationship you want and not just sex, to avoid the big blowup when you dump them. You'll have to give up mongering the bars, the Korean grapevine is strong, and word will get back to your honey, one way or another. With bar girls, pick your poison, and remember, Thailand and Korea have the largest number of penis reattachment surgeries in the world. Sleep tight guys.
Was in the Waialae area near 11th Ave. and stopped by Blue Sea. Havent been there for a long time and the setup is still the same. The main bar area is pretty small, but theres tables on the other side of the wall behind the juke box. And I guess you can still go up the stairs where there should be more tables and the karaoke room.
Has anyone gone here lately? Seen mostly older ladies but a couple that looked pretty good. Any info would be greatly appreciated. ;)
Hiroslammer
02-14-06, 06:10
To all you veterans out there. I've been hitting the Korean bar scene off and on for the past year or so. Got to know alot of the girls at Maya's, Niagra, and New Casino. And would have to say, New Casino has the best looking younger ladies working. I've dropped some $$$$ over there and really never got any type of play with any of the girls at New Casino. Which ladies are the playful ones?? And is it worth it going into the private rooms?
Kalihi Kid
02-14-06, 10:54
Several posts have noted that many hostesses have either boyfriends or are married. While the chances of having FS or a full blown GFE with one of these are greatly diminished don't automatically assume that you won't get serviced by one of these. Many girls were either hostesses or even pros in their own country and that's how they met their initial serviceman husband. To paraphrase the old saying, "you can take the girl out of the country but you can't always take the country out of the girl." Once a pro, always a pro. While it may be true that normal girls from most asian countries think of sex as something sacred, just like we do, a girl who has sold her morals for cash is likely to do so again especially if she is working in a KB or VB. They may try to live down their past but most find it difficult when they work in an atmosphere where they are constantly being bombarded by propositions. I may not always be able to tell which ones they are but if the girl indicates to me in casual conversation that she worked in a bar in her own country I note it down in my mind that she is probably a player, at least in the bar, even though she may be married or have a steady boyfriend. It is not uncommon to hear of hostesses taking their johns home at night to the same bed that their husbands or boyfriends share with them during the day.
Iliketowatch
02-14-06, 17:27
Just got some .02 to add to the subject. A couple of my bar mate have girlfriends that still work in the bars. But let me define boyfriend from their point of view. 1) 24 hour taxi service. 2) Banned from going to other bars (even sneaking to another bar is risky with the Korean grapevine), 3) Can't be the jealous-type when you know your babe is being felt up or smooched on the way out the door. 4) Sugar-daddy for all of the non-essential wants (Gucci, Cartier, etc). 5) Emotional sponge for the frequent rants and raves. 6) Stink-eye pin cushion when their relatives visit HNL. 7) Champagne buyer when she needs to show off to the other girls. BUT you do get "free" sex. Not as often as you would think though. My buddies say on the average twice every two weeks. Short sessions. Girl's not really into the kinky stuff. Korean's view sex more of an act rather than a passionate, sweat-filled fantasy. And I think working in a bar desensitizes these girl's to "real" relationships. Watch the Korean soaps, they are great as far as showing you the Korean culture. They like drama, sadness, romancing but are rather robotic when it comes to sex. But, my friends love it. I mean the "free" sex. As I posted earlier, I thought most of the sex I got was too dead-meat. To each his own I guess.
Was in the Waialae area near 11th Ave. and stopped by Blue Sea. Havent been there for a long time and the setup is still the same. The main bar area is pretty small, but theres tables on the other side of the wall behind the juke box. And I guess you can still go up the stairs where there should be more tables and the karaoke room.
Has anyone gone here lately? Seen mostly older ladies but a couple that looked pretty good. Any info would be greatly appreciated. ;)
I went up there with Kim the other night. BBHJ and tittie sucking was all she'd give up. She said if I bring a condom next time, then we can have FS. But, it could be just a "lure" for the next time.
Damage was 1 drink + 1.2
As I have said before, lots of the girls at New Casino are married, as are lots of girls at aother bars. However, they are married on paper only. Most of them are here on tourist visas and need a way to work "legally". So what they do is get married to some Korean guy for $30k, $15k down and $15k after they get their green card. The bad thing is they still need to work to support themselves and to pay off the guy when and if they get their green card. Lots of times, these guys hassle the girls for more money or just cause trouble, so it is not worth the headache to deal with the drama.
Yes, you can get laid, but dealing with the ramifications after can make it not worth the fun, especially if INS gets involved. You guys do know that INS goes undercover and visits the bars, don't you? The last thing I need is INS coming to my home or office asking for me and grilling me if this married woman is my girlfriend or not.
FYI, HPD is also undercover at the bars or have some under surveillance.
Hiro,
You can try Sandra there. She is a taller girl with a nice rack. Got alot of touching and nipple sucking at the table. Dont go into the karaoke room with her though its not worth it.
Quickshoot
02-15-06, 10:06
Was in the Waialae area near 11th Ave. and stopped by Blue Sea. Havent been there for a long time and the setup is still the same. The main bar area is pretty small, but theres tables on the other side of the wall behind the juke box. And I guess you can still go up the stairs where there should be more tables and the karaoke room.
Has anyone gone here lately? Seen mostly older ladies but a couple that looked pretty good. Any info would be greatly appreciated. ;)I had some time to kill during the day time last week, so I ventured up there. The place is really small, but I did not get a chance to go upstairs. Ended up sitting at the bar with one of the Mama's. She told me that there are three partners for this place. I also saw a gal named Minnie. Looked on the older side, but also seem to have some enhancements. I will try this place again.
I stopped by London Hub this past weekend for a little action. I sat with a woman named Sue. Her face wasn't bad for an older woman but her body was a bit soft. She looks like she would've been hot 10-15 years ago. I bought her a couple of drinks and she asked me to go in the back room. I was definitely there for play so I told her okay. As soon as we got in the room, she pulled down my pants and started with a nice soft BBBJ. Then it was straight to FS. Had some mish and finished up with doggy. The experience was okay but I won't be seeing her again. She had a little bit of odor down there and that for me is a major turn off. Anyone got any info for a bar with a little younger girls that play. I'm definitely a FS kind of guy but I'm growing tired of the AMP scene. I need a different place to hunt. Perhaps I'll try Monalia next time.
Turboman808
02-15-06, 21:01
I stopped by London Hub this past weekend for a little action. I sat with a woman named Sue. Her face wasn't bad for an older woman but her body was a bit soft. She looks like she would've been hot 10-15 years ago. I bought her a couple of drinks and she asked me to go in the back room. I was definitely there for play so I told her okay. As soon as we got in the room, she pulled down my pants and started with a nice soft BBBJ. Then it was straight to FS. Had some mish and finished up with doggy. The experience was okay but I won't be seeing her again. She had a little bit of odor down there and that for me is a major turn off. Anyone got any info for a bar with a little younger girls that play. I'm definitely a FS kind of guy but I'm growing tired of the AMP scene. I need a different place to hunt. Perhaps I'll try Monalia next time.PB,
A couple of preliminary drinks sound okay, how much for FS? Private message me.
Good luck at Monalia. I can tell you who NOT to sit with, and that would be
Candy. She is cute, but her english is poor, she mostly speaks Japanese. She is popular with the older Japanese uncles in Kalihi Valley, I think. At any rate, I don't believe she is a player. Of course, that's just me; I suck at playing the KB game.
Turboman
Just got some .02 to add to the subject. A couple of my bar mate have girlfriends that still work in the bars. But let me define boyfriend from their point of view. 1) 24 hour taxi service. 2) Banned from going to other bars (even sneaking to another bar is risky with the Korean grapevine), 3) Can't be the jealous-type when you know your babe is being felt up or smooched on the way out the door. 4) Sugar-daddy for all of the non-essential wants (Gucci, Cartier, etc). 5) Emotional sponge for the frequent rants and raves. 6) Stink-eye pin cushion when their relatives visit HNL. 7) Champagne buyer when she needs to show off to the other girls. BUT you do get "free" sex. Not as often as you would think though. My buddies say on the average twice every two weeks. Short sessions. Girl's not really into the kinky stuff. Korean's view sex more of an act rather than a passionate, sweat-filled fantasy. And I think working in a bar desensitizes these girl's to "real" relationships. Watch the Korean soaps, they are great as far as showing you the Korean culture. They like drama, sadness, romancing but are rather robotic when it comes to sex. But, my friends love it. I mean the "free" sex. As I posted earlier, I thought most of the sex I got was too dead-meat. To each his own I guess.
sounds like your friends are sugar daddies, not bfs.. i have had several hostess gfs, and they have been gfs in the traditional sense...
Iliketowatch
02-15-06, 21:43
Eastt,
You're probably right! Sugar daddy seems closer than bf. The strange thing is, the girls would pay for all their essential stuff they did together. Meals out, gas money, his drinks at the bar, groceries, household items, even golf green fees 3 times a week. They would buy the guy clothes, cigarettes, and more. It almost seemed like the girl spent more on the guy, but the things the girl got from the guy were all the flashy, show-off stuff. I found this to be rather strange, but never really got into a indepth conversation with these guys because thay were mainly bar friends that I wouldn't hang out with outside the bar. Is this normal? How were your relationships with these girls? Anything we would call normal?
Straying from the sex subject a little, here are some pointers on play. I love the play, more than the sex. The thrill of making a girl come in public is a real turn-on for me. If a girl dresses like a **** your chance of play is high. Pay attention to their dress that night, it's the best key. The prettier she is the more you will have to pay (she knows she's pretty). If she wearing pants, it's hands off I don't play, or not tonight it's that time of the month. Very common-sense. Sit at the bar, contact the girl and see which booth she takes you to. Back booth, good possibility, wide open booth, one drink and you should get outta there unless she is willing to move. When in a back booth, makes sure she knows you have money. She won't play unless she knows the potential of making money. At this point, we hit the downfall of man (or bar man). We think if the girl knows we have money, they won't play until they get a lot, wrong. All they know is, if they can't get your money the easy way "Flapping thier eyelashes" then they have to decide if they are willing to play. It's psychology. If they are not willing, you get your answer up front, and leave. She should start play after 1st drink. If she doesn't, leave, unless you are willing to drop some bucks (which is the purpose of this post, play for less pay). Remember it's your money against her will. It's you small brain against her knee magnets. We all keep buying drinks, thinking they will come around and let us touch for free. Sorry, won't happen. You actually defeat your own purpose because they mark you as a banker. So even if it's slow and they need to make money, you're viewed as a savior to thier $ situation rather than someone they know they gotta work hard to get you to stay. Get it.
Like to add to Localmoko's subject on play. While it might be that time of month for some girls that wear pants, theres many that will still allow some action. Ive also noticed that many girls who wear pants at times dont wear any panties even though they have a bra on. What I usually do at the bar or at the table is to put my arm around her and start rubbing her lower back and eventually to get my hand down the back of her pants and see if she is wearing any underwear or what type. If its the big old ladies underwear then it maybe her time of month. If its a g-string or no underwear, then theres a high possiblility for some play. Ive sat with a few girls at the booths that actually let me unbutton and unzipper their pants and stick my hand between their legs and play with them. But of course YMMV!
Turboman808
02-16-06, 13:41
Straying from the sex subject a little, here are some pointers on play. I love the play, more than the sex. The thrill of making a girl come in public is a real turn-on for me. If a girl dresses like a **** your chance of play is high. Pay attention to their dress that night, it's the best key. The prettier she is the more you will have to pay (she knows she's pretty). If she wearing pants, it's hands off I don't play, or not tonight it's that time of the month. Very common-sense. Sit at the bar, contact the girl and see which booth she takes you to. Back booth, good possibility, wide open booth, one drink and you should get outta there unless she is willing to move. When in a back booth, makes sure she knows you have money. She won't play unless she knows the potential of making money. At this point, we hit the downfall of man (or bar man). We think if the girl knows we have money, they won't play until they get a lot, wrong. All they know is, if they can't get your money the easy way "Flapping thier eyelashes" then they have to decide if they are willing to play. It's psychology. If they are not willing, you get your answer up front, and leave. She should start play after 1st drink. If she doesn't, leave, unless you are willing to drop some bucks (which is the purpose of this post, play for less pay). Remember it's your money against her will. It's you small brain against her knee magnets. We all keep buying drinks, thinking they will come around and let us touch for free. Sorry, won't happen. You actually defeat your own purpose because they mark you as a banker. So even if it's slow and they need to make money, you're viewed as a savior to thier $ situation rather than someone they know they gotta work hard to get you to stay. Get it.Localmoko,
Dude! You will make a player out of me, the perennial loser! Once again, thanks for a very insightful post.
Turboman
Checked out New Casino the other night and even on a week night this place is crowded. Havent been here for a few months and saw some hot new girls, but all of them were with customers. This place is like Cheers in Kalihi where the girl's customer is there when she comes in. Didnt see Sandra around, so I just hanged at the bar and just watched all the eye candy. ;)
Member #4020
02-16-06, 18:58
Eastt,
You're probably right! Sugar daddy seems closer than bf. The strange thing is, the girls would pay for all their essential stuff they did together. Meals out, gas money, his drinks at the bar, groceries, household items, even golf green fees 3 times a week. They would buy the guy clothes, cigarettes, and more. It almost seemed like the girl spent more on the guy, but the things the girl got from the guy were all the flashy, show-off stuff. I found this to be rather strange, but never really got into a indepth conversation with these guys because thay were mainly bar friends that I wouldn't hang out with outside the bar. Is this normal? How were your relationships with these girls? Anything we would call normal?
Not all the girls are the same. Some/many develop a weird sense of what a relationship is, and what it is they want and don't want from a man. It is about as warped a reality as the KB scene itself.
Eastt,
You're probably right! Sugar daddy seems closer than bf. The strange thing is, the girls would pay for all their essential stuff they did together. Meals out, gas money, his drinks at the bar, groceries, household items, even golf green fees 3 times a week. They would buy the guy clothes, cigarettes, and more. It almost seemed like the girl spent more on the guy, but the things the girl got from the guy were all the flashy, show-off stuff. I found this to be rather strange, but never really got into a indepth conversation with these guys because thay were mainly bar friends that I wouldn't hang out with outside the bar. Is this normal? How were your relationships with these girls? Anything we would call normal?Actually, that is about right in the Korean bf/gf game. If the guy were a sugar daddy, he'd have to pay for everything and then buy her jewelry and bags...
K Girls like to do the showy stuff so other girls see that the guy is her property and thus, hands off. However, they will spend $$$ on their bfs. The payback is when its their birthday, Valentines or Xmas. Champagne is mandatory.
Jack Mehoff
02-16-06, 20:53
Guys,whats the big deal about Monalia? I went last night and was disappointed.Not one good looking chick in sight. I bought one auntie named Sarah 2 drinks,but only because she gave me a pretty good massage. She tried to get me to buy her another drink with the $17 I had left in my wallet. Said she needed it for cab fare home and got all pissy when I told her no. Should have gone to Suzie Q instead,saw a pretty hot looking one as I was getting in my car to leave.
In order for you to go to a KB/VB bar, is it mandatory that you need to drink? I mean I know that there's a reason for having a bar, and thats for people to drink at. Cause for me, I quit drinking a little over 9 years ago. Also I also did hear that if there are people that don't drink, mamasan tends to get mad cause the person is either wasting their time having you there and also losing money as well.
Thanks
Turboman808
02-16-06, 21:59
Guys,whats the big deal about Monalia? I went last night and was disappointed.Not one good looking chick in sight. I bought one auntie named Sarah 2 drinks,but only because she gave me a pretty good massage. She tried to get me to buy her another drink with the $17 I had left in my wallet. Said she needed it for cab fare home and got all pissy when I told her no. Should have gone to Suzie Q instead,saw a pretty hot looking one as I was getting in my car to leave.One night, I popped into Monalia and Hi-Lilly, the girls were all old. Its a waste of time, and I don't care much for the girls at London Hub either. Just like you, I walked to my car, but popped my head into Suzie Q. Sitting at the bar with a customer was a stunning young girl, straight shoulder length highlighted hair with bangs, and big round eyes. I popped my head in 3X to check her out (as the bar is near the door). Each time, we exchanged glances, but alas, I was tapped out, and she looks mighty expen$ive.
Maybe that's who you saw too.
Turboman
Iliketowatch
02-16-06, 23:54
I don't know why the treatment in these bars or even the VB bars you've visited. I always like to make it a point to sit at the bar for the 1st couple of visits and buy the bartender a drink. Some bars I'll go as far as buying mama a drink. Lets just say its money well spent. Being a familiar face to the bartenders is definitely a plus, and you also get to size up the girls when they get their drinks. Batenders rely on drinks from bar area patrons mainly because they cannot readily run off to a booth during their shift. Your $ will be well valued by them (1 drink per night is fine). Wait awhile, then buy them their drink, this gives you wiggle room when you come the next time so they know to be patient with you before they expect a drink. Bartenders have a lot of info on the girls. The following times you come in, they will know your face, and try to make space for you at the bar (no more uncomforatable standing by the door looking for a seat). Remember, mama is in business to make $, not to provided a place for men to just drink. So you must give her the impression that you are not their just to look. Anyway, works for me.
Nightshade67
02-17-06, 03:09
Actually, that is about right in the Korean bf/gf game. If the guy were a sugar daddy, he'd have to pay for everything and then buy her jewelry and bags...
K Girls like to do the showy stuff so other girls see that the guy is her property and thus, hands off. However, they will spend $$$ on their bfs. The payback is when its their birthday, Valentines or Xmas. Champagne is mandatory.I dated a stripper and she bought me a lot of stuff too, name brand clothes and other stuff (which honestly I didn't care much about, not my thing but the stuff I did like she wouldn't buy me), even bought me a new car. She was actually a really sweet girl. I also dated Korean hostest but she wasn't quite as giving. Just took care of living expenses.
However in both cases, not worth the drama that comes with dating one of these girls.
Eastt,
You're probably right! Sugar daddy seems closer than bf. The strange thing is, the girls would pay for all their essential stuff they did together. Meals out, gas money, his drinks at the bar, groceries, household items, even golf green fees 3 times a week. They would buy the guy clothes, cigarettes, and more. It almost seemed like the girl spent more on the guy, but the things the girl got from the guy were all the flashy, show-off stuff. I found this to be rather strange, but never really got into a indepth conversation with these guys because thay were mainly bar friends that I wouldn't hang out with outside the bar. Is this normal? How were your relationships with these girls? Anything we would call normal?
my hostess gfs relationships were normal. first of all, i don't make enough money to be a sugar daddy... these girls know this. if they were anything but normal, then i wouldn't be involved with them--i couldn't afford it... only once has a kb gf asked me for a louisvuitton bag. none have asked me for champagne. most don't even want me at the bar that they work at. if i do go, they won't sit with me. they rather take the money of their customers than have me buy them drinks.
The corner bar on the other side of the parking lot from Monalia, Flamingo I think, has some young girls. They changed owners in Jan. and the new owner brought in some girls from town. Popped in on Tuesday during the day for a couple of drinks. Usually during the day theres only old ladies, but the day bartender was pretty young and looked really nice wearing a short skirt. There was only her and an old lady and they were just hanging at the other end of the bar with customers who were buying them drinks. Drank a couple of beers then left.
Relationships with these girls seem like russian roulette. Trying to find the few that are willing, then finding the ones from the litter that don't want you as a sugar daddy, just for GFE sex would break my bank. I always wondered what I could get if my wallet was as big as my gut, but hearing the posts, it sounds like I would get screwed (you know which way). I think we should always view these posts as general info, but we all know their are exceptions, and that is where the thrill and danger lies. I guess that's why I have resorted to just bar play. Question to the guys that had girlfriends. How do you keep from getting jealous when your girl still works in the bar?
Went to Cheers in the afternoon yesterday. There were a couple of girls, but the bartender has a killer body for an older lady and a nice face. She was wearing a backless dress that gave a really nice view of her good size tits every time she bent over to get a beer or something. I dont like drinking here at night so cant see if she plays at the table when her shift is over. Any of you sat with her?
Yoshitsune
02-17-06, 16:47
You're right some of these girls maybe genuine, but us guys want the nice ones at home and play with the ****. We already view these girls as objects, so it's doomed from the begining. Once we get what we want thats it. There is a saying we don't feed the fish we hook.
my hostess gfs relationships were normal. First of all, I don't make enough money to be a sugar daddy. These girls know this. If they were anything but normal, then I wouldn't be involved with them--I couldn't afford it. Only once has a kb gf asked me for a louisvuitton bag. None have asked me for champagne. Most don't even want me at the bar that they work at. If I do go, they won't sit with me. They rather take the money of their customers than have me buy them drinks.
Yoshitsune
02-17-06, 16:51
I don't think so cause I don't drink sometimes. But you have to buy the girls drink if you not drinking. Well I tend to spend more more money when I'm drunk and somehow the girl start to look better.
In order for you to go to a KB/VB bar, is it mandatory that you need to drink? I mean I know that there's a reason for having a bar, and thats for people to drink at. Cause for me, I quit drinking a little over 9 years ago. Also I also did hear that if there are people that don't drink, mamasan tends to get mad cause the person is either wasting their time having you there and also losing money as well.
Thanks
Kalihi Kid
02-17-06, 17:04
This may have been observed before but based on the posts in this thread, there are clearly two kinds of mongers, those who take thrill in the hunt and others who just want to enjoy the meat. Those who enjoy the hunt want to know where the best hunting grounds are and what is the best bait to use. While those who just want the meat and are more interested in quality and price. Mongers can therefore be classified as either Hunters and ME’s (meat eaters). This thread provides good information for both types of interests but it may help to identify which type you are when posting. Hunters receive the greatest pleasure when they add to their trophy collection even though they are not always successful. ME’s want to get their money’s worth each and every time they go out. I point this out because the same experience could be viewed differently by each type of monger. An ME might report total disappointment if he doesn’t get release the first time he sits down with a provider prospect, whereas a hunter might report being highly satisfied even when he had to make several visits and spend $$$$ on the same one in order to get release.
Jack Mehoff
02-17-06, 17:16
I don't know why the treatment in these bars or even the VB bars you've visited. I always like to make it a point to sit at the bar for the 1st couple of visits and buy the bartender a drink. Some bars I'll go as far as buying mama a drink. Lets just say its money well spent. Being a familiar face to the bartenders is definitely a plus, and you also get to size up the girls when they get their drinks. Batenders rely on drinks from bar area patrons mainly because they cannot readily run off to a booth during their shift. Your $ will be well valued by them (1 drink per night is fine). Wait awhile, then buy them their drink, this gives you wiggle room when you come the next time so they know to be patient with you before they expect a drink. Bartenders have a lot of info on the girls. The following times you come in, they will know your face, and try to make space for you at the bar (no more uncomforatable standing by the door looking for a seat). Remember, mama is in business to make $, not to provided a place for men to just drink. So you must give her the impression that you are not their just to look. Anyway, works for me.
What do you mean? How the girls I sit with treat me or how I get ripped off by them?
Jack Mehoff
02-17-06, 17:24
In order for you to go to a KB/VB bar, is it mandatory that you need to drink? I mean I know that there's a reason for having a bar, and thats for people to drink at. Cause for me, I quit drinking a little over 9 years ago. Also I also did hear that if there are people that don't drink, mamasan tends to get mad cause the person is either wasting their time having you there and also losing money as well.
Thanks I feel for you I don't drink either and I don't drink soda or juice too. I guess thats why I order a beer when I go barhopping. To blend in and at least give the impression that I might spend money,and not only look. The girls in most of the bars know what to expect of me,because I usually end up going to the same bars and sitting with the same girls.
Jack Mehoff
02-17-06, 17:27
One night, I popped into Monalia and Hi-Lilly, the girls were all old. Its a waste of time, and I don't care much for the girls at London Hub either. Just like you, I walked to my car, but popped my head into Suzie Q. Sitting at the bar with a customer was a stunning young girl, straight shoulder length highlighted hair with bangs, and big round eyes. I popped my head in 3X to check her out (as the bar is near the door). Each time, we exchanged glances, but alas, I was tapped out, and she looks mighty expen$ive.
Maybe that's who you saw too.
Turboman Yep, I'm almost 100% sure that that was the same girl I saw.
I dated a stripper and she bought me a lot of stuff too, name brand clothes and other stuff (which honestly I didn't care much about, not my thing but the stuff I did like she wouldn't buy me), even bought me a new car. She was actually a really sweet girl. I also dated Korean hostest but she wasn't quite as giving. Just took care of living expenses.
However in both cases, not worth the drama that comes with dating one of these girls.
You got a car! Score! I always got Rolexes and stuff but told them I have my own so I don't need it. I told them to return it and save their money cause the gravy train isn't gonna last forever. I don't know what happened to most of them, but some are working normal jobs now or are married, and I'm still out partying. :D
Iliketowatch
02-17-06, 20:47
I'm only assuming that's why you get the "look" at Asia and why the girls get pissed off with you when you stop the funds coming. If you don't appear to be a often-comer, and sometime spender, they will try to get what they can NOW, or make sure you're not just taking up valuable spending customer space.
Like to add to Localmoko's subject on play. While it might be that time of month for some girls that wear pants, theres many that will still allow some action. Ive also noticed that many girls who wear pants at times dont wear any panties even though they have a bra on. What I usually do at the bar or at the table is to put my arm around her and start rubbing her lower back and eventually to get my hand down the back of her pants and see if she is wearing any underwear or what type. If its the big old ladies underwear then it maybe her time of month. If its a g-string or no underwear, then theres a high possiblility for some play. Ive sat with a few girls at the booths that actually let me unbutton and unzipper their pants and stick my hand between their legs and play with them. But of course YMMV!I agree. I've had times where the gal allowed me in to rub her clit or do some finger insertion by loosening her pants. I do the same thing that Oysterogo does - work my way down. You will know right away if play is a potential or if its a hands off night.
Question to the guys that had girlfriends. How do you keep from getting jealous when your girl still works in the bar?
the gfs i have had that worked in a kb have been normal gfs. i haven't had many of them--three in the 3+ years that i have been going to kbs. it was hard finding those. they didn't play with the customer. actually, i am wondering if one of them plays. i want to post her name to see if anybody got any action from her, but i might get into trouble with her if i do...
in the beginning, i was jealous, but eventually i trusted them 100% because i knew they were crazy about me. you can't get serious with a kb gf and not trust them or else you wouldn't be able to sleep and not worry.
Men Are Dogs
02-18-06, 19:29
I'm new to the bar scene. Been sitting with a girl from Mayas for about a month. Visiting the bar approx. 2-3 times a week. Buying approx. 2-3 drinks per visit. Trying to get some play outside the bar from her, maybe hooking up, but only striking out. Reading all the posts about girlfriends or sex has got me to evaluate my situation now. She sweet talks me, tell me she loves me, give me a closed lip kiss on the mouth when I leave (I wish I got tongue), makes excuses when I ask her out (too tired from working 7 days), haven't tried to feel her up in the bar (trying the gentleman approach), she calls me every day to chat, and buys me my drinks at time. Am I getting played? Someone told me the girls at Maya's don't play or engage in casual sex. I sat in my car a couple of nights and watched the girls leave. She had a guy take her home, or somewhere. Is this a good sign she has a sugar daddy or boyfriend (it was the same guy)? Any other bar where the % of play or off-site action is higher? Any feedback will be much appreciated by myself and my wallet.
Jack Mehoff
02-18-06, 21:30
I'm only assuming that's why you get the "look" at Asia and why the girls get pissed off with you when you stop the funds coming. If you don't appear to be a often-comer, and sometime spender, they will try to get what they can NOW, or make sure you're not just taking up valuable spending customer space.
When I usually go to Asia all I do is look,the girls don't bother with me. I don't know if its because of my regular,who I sit with; or if its because I sit at the bar most of the time. The only time I get hassled is by that b**** who always tells me that I'm making the customers uncomfortable.
Jack Mehoff
02-18-06, 21:58
I agree. I've had times where the gal allowed me in to rub her clit or do some finger insertion by loosening her pants. I do the same thing that Oysterogo does - work my way down. You will know right away if play is a potential or if its a hands off night.
WOW,which bars are the girls that allow you guys to do these things at?
WOW,which bars are the girls that allow you guys to do these things at?Jack,
Theres one in Kalihi called Pieces. Last time that I got one to allow some exploring was in the late December-Early January timeframe. I will say that it did take a few visits before exploration was allowed. I apologize, but her name slips me right now - I want to say Soo Jin, but I'm not sure.
I haven't been there in a while, but when I hear that the parking lot is always full.
Niagara was another place that had some gals that allowed it.
PD
When I usually go to Asia all I do is look,the girls don't bother with me. I don't know if its because of my regular,who I sit with; or if its because I sit at the bar most of the time. The only time I get hassled is by that b**** who always tells me that I'm making the customers uncomfortable.
following the raid at asia, several of the girls have moved to other bars--bulk going to romantei...
asia has been dead lately with few girls working...
JM, what is the name of the girl that bothers you? describe her...
I'm new to the bar scene. Been sitting with a girl from Mayas for about a month. Visiting the bar approx. 2-3 times a week. Buying approx. 2-3 drinks per visit. Trying to get some play outside the bar from her, maybe hooking up, but only striking out. Reading all the posts about girlfriends or sex has got me to evaluate my situation now. She sweet talks me, tell me she loves me, give me a closed lip kiss on the mouth when I leave (I wish I got tongue), makes excuses when I ask her out (too tired from working 7 days), haven't tried to feel her up in the bar (trying the gentleman approach), she calls me every day to chat, and buys me my drinks at time. Am I getting played? Someone told me the girls at Maya's don't play or engage in casual sex. I sat in my car a couple of nights and watched the girls leave. She had a guy take her home, or somewhere. Is this a good sign she has a sugar daddy or boyfriend (it was the same guy)? Any other bar where the % of play or off-site action is higher? Any feedback will be much appreciated by myself and my wallet.
played? what are you after? i tell you this much, from what it sounds like to me, you won't get any action outside the bar with her...
whoever took her home is probably not her bf or sugar daddy. these girls get to & from work by taxi and probably had one of her customers drop her off to save taxi fare.
Jack Mehoff
02-19-06, 19:04
following the raid at asia, several of the girls have moved to other bars--bulk going to romantei...
asia has been dead lately with few girls working...
JM, what is the name of the girl that bothers you? describe her...
I don't know her name, as for a description;just look for the least attractive one there. She wasn't there the last couple of times I went to Asia. Maybe they deported her.
Jack Mehoff
02-19-06, 19:05
Jack,
Theres one in Kalihi called Pieces. Last time that I got one to allow some exploring was in the late December-Early January timeframe. I will say that it did take a few visits before exploration was allowed. I apologize, but her name slips me right now - I want to say Soo Jin, but I'm not sure.
I haven't been there in a while, but when I hear that the parking lot is always full.
Niagara was another place that had some gals that allowed it.
PD Thanks,really appreciate you sharing your info. JM
Kalihi Kid
02-19-06, 21:09
Wow, stopped by Red Carnation on Friday night at around 10pm and the place was crowded and there appeared to be some kind of party going on. Lot of large local types there. Didn't plan on staying long because of the type of crowd but I wanted to see what the girls were up to. It was a pretty wild bunch there and you could tell that they had be partying for awhile. After about 5 mintutes, as I was preparing to leave, I heard some loud laughter as some of the girls started flashing their boobs to the guys. Now mind you the ones doing the flashing weren't necessarily the ones I wanted to see, (actually the some of the older more bawdy ones, including the bartender) but it was an unexpected treat nonetheless. I left shortly thereafter because I felt out of place but plan to go back a little earlier next time.
Men Are Dogs
02-19-06, 23:51
I'm certain you're correct. Just haven't been around enough to know better. Thanks to everyone else for their very informative and entertaining posts. This is a great group. Although opinions vary and differ, it's seems everyone is cool with a view that differs from theirs. I guess I'll take that approach and just use and beleive what I personally feel comfortable with. Stay cool guys.
Went to Cheers in the afternoon. Was about 5pm and the place wasnt all that busy. Didnt see the nite girl who I really dont care for working so stayed to get some refreshments. Made eye contact with a couple of girls that looked interesting. Drinking at the bar and along comes one of the girls and starts talking to me. So after a few minutes she tells me its slow and if I can buy her a drink. So I buy her a drink. Later she asks me for another, now I tell her if I buy another we have to go to a table and she has to let me play with her. At first she says no, but eventually gives in, since she had no customer. So off to the table we go. Find out she is in her 30's with a couple kids that live somewhere in the mainland...you know the same old story. After finishing her drink she asks for another. Here I tell her she has to go down on me and surprisingly she says ok. While she is getting her drink I unzipper my pants and get ready. When she returns, she looks to see if anyone is around then sucks me a little. So I'm like 'WOW' she actually went down on me and anticipated more. But as luck would have it, someone sits at the table on the other side of the barrier from my table. So now she doesnt want to do anything. I buy her a couple more and just feel her up and decide to leave. Was drunk and already in the mood so headed to Smile Spa.
Iliketowatch
02-20-06, 14:17
Went to Camelot this pass Sat. Not too busy. Feels like a remake of New Office. Lots of old familiar faces. Didn't care for seeing Marge Simpson (Nina). Anyone know anything about Ashley? Korean, dark skinned, tiny frame. I've seen her at 24hr. Fitness once, looks great in tights.
Turboman808
02-20-06, 14:34
Went to Cheers in the afternoon. Was about 5pm and the place wasnt all that busy. Didnt see the nite girl who I really dont care for working so stayed to get some refreshments. Made eye contact with a couple of girls that looked interesting. Drinking at the bar and along comes one of the girls and starts talking to me. So after a few minutes she tells me its slow and if I can buy her a drink. So I buy her a drink. Later she asks me for another, now I tell her if I buy another we have to go to a table and she has to let me play with her. At first she says no, but eventually gives in, since she had no customer. So off to the table we go. Find out she is in her 30's with a couple kids that live somewhere in the mainland...you know the same old story. After finishing her drink she asks for another. Here I tell her she has to go down on me and surprisingly she says ok. While she is getting her drink I unzipper my pants and get ready. When she returns, she looks to see if anyone is around then sucks me a little. So I'm like 'WOW' she actually went down on me and anticipated more. But as luck would have it, someone sits at the table on the other side of the barrier from my table. So now she doesnt want to do anything. I buy her a couple more and just feel her up and decide to leave. Was drunk and already in the mood so headed to Smile Spa.Oyster,
Lucky! Thanks for sharing. How about posting a SS review in the Massage Parlor thread? I've always wanted to go after hearing about Bonnie, but I guess she's no longer there.
Aloha,
Turboman
Turboman808
02-20-06, 19:19
Wow, stopped by Red Carnation on Friday night at around 10pm and the place was crowded and there appeared to be some kind of party going on. Lot of large local types there. Didn't plan on staying long because of the type of crowd but I wanted to see what the girls were up to. It was a pretty wild bunch there and you could tell that they had be partying for awhile. After about 5 mintutes, as I was preparing to leave, I heard some loud laughter as some of the girls started flashing their boobs to the guys. Now mind you the ones doing the flashing weren't necessarily the ones I wanted to see, (actually the some of the older more bawdy ones, including the bartender) but it was an unexpected treat nonetheless. I left shortly thereafter because I felt out of place but plan to go back a little earlier next time.Hey KK,
You lucky guy! A case of being in the right place at the right time! When I went in, the bartender's name was Gina, and she wouldn't float my boat if she flashed her rack at me! But she's a very nice lady, and she's entitled to cut loose every now and then.
Good luck the next time you go in, give us a follow up report!
Aloha,
Turboman
Peckerwood
02-21-06, 23:19
Where in Kalihi is Suzie Q located?
Mahalo
Turboman808
02-21-06, 23:36
Where in Kalihi is Suzie Q located?
MahaloCorner of Dillingham and Waiakamilo, next to the Firestone Car Repair place.
Good luck, bring $$$
Turboman
Faconnable
02-24-06, 13:05
Hey guys. I'm visiting soon and am wondering if any of these bars have girls in the afternoon? I have a few hours to kill once I arrive.
Also, does anyone know if Snow is still around (from Asia)? I read about all the drama there, so I was seeing if she has moved or whatever.
Thanks!
Kalihi Kid
02-24-06, 17:25
[QUOTE=Faconnable]Hey guys. I'm visiting soon and am wondering if any of these bars have girls in the afternoon? I have a few hours to kill once I arrive.
I don't know about the others but my experience during daylight hours has been that the pick'ins are mighty thin. It seems only older, least attractive, and most desperate are at work before 7pm. Those who play to the wee hours of the morning are usually still in bed at noon. The only place I can think of that may cater to the daytime crowd is that strip joint on Lagoon Drive. That may be your best bet before sundown.
Faconnable
02-25-06, 16:51
Thanks Kalihi Kid,
That's kind of what I figured. Guess I'll just grab a couple of brews and hit an AMP.
Was in the Kalihi area around 7pm last nite and decided to checkout SuzieQ. This place was packed. Sat at the bar to just scope out the place. Seems the loud bunch of people sitting at the bigger tables was just celebrating someone's birthday. An older lady that recognized me from some other bar starts talking to me. I make a comment that theres some nice looking younger girls working. So she asks me if I want to meet one of them and starts calling girls that arent busy over for my inspection, I guess. Being that almost all of the tables were taken, I told 1 girl that if she can find an open table I would buy her a drink. So she finds one in the corner by the karaoke machine, which was cozy enough for a little action. Find out she is 31 yrs old with no kids. Looks more on the innocent side with a fairly nice figure and has a sorta little girl kinda voice. When asked what she is drinking she was honest about it and said watered down shoju which I thought was cool, since most girls would straight-out lie to you about their drink unless they drink beer. Did my introductory inspection of her clothes. She was wearing a low hanging top and a kinda long denim skirt with a greyish colored bra and some black regular panties. Got my hand down the top of her blouse and felt up her nips, not bad size, but the table wasnt private enough to do any sucking. Bought her another drink and just felt her up and rubbed her panties. The whole time she has her hand in my shorts stroking me. After she finishes her second drink I tell her I will come back again and would like to sit with her when its not so crowded. She hugs me and gives me couple kisses, stands up and hugs and kisses me again and walks me to the door. All in all a pretty nice experience.
Faconnable,
Although what KK is true, there are some "diamonds in the rough", but it is a hit-and-miss deal. You just have to be at the right place at the right time. Here are some places that I've seen girls of interest during the afternoon.
Monalia: Although theres only a couple older girls here during the afternoon, there is usually a younger girl that works everyday and comes in around 1pm. Her name is Candy. She is in her 30's and nice face and decent bod with nice, natural boobs (very soft). One drawback is that she doesnt speak english very well. She has had mixed reviews on the boards, but I found her to be very playful in the booths and got alot of play outta her.
All Inn: The day bartendress is older, but nice to look at. Only a couple older ladies here when they open, about 10am I think, but Ive seen younger girls come in as early as 1pm or so. This bar is too small and the tables too open for my comfort and I havent sat with any of the girls here.
Cheers Station: I usually go here on thursdays during the afternoon just to sit at the bar and watch the bartendress Kimberly. ;) She is probably 40 something but has a nice face and a gorgeous body in my opinion. Just love to drink beer and watch her especially if she is wearing one of her tighter fitting outfits. Another girl is usually there too, guess they ride in together, who is younger and fairly cute. Think they open at noon and theres a couple older girls there also. This is the only bar that I would love to do the kitchen mama who is young and pretty.:)
My Place??(the bar by Diners near the Kalihi post office): This place opens at 10:30am. Bartender is fairly old and about 4 older girls. Havent sat with them personally, but my retired friend sits with one of them, and kinda get the impression that all of them will play at the tables. The few times I've been there I've seen a couple younger girls come in in the early afternoon. Ive sat with the darker skinned one, with big natural boobs but like so many koreans has a flat ass. She was very playful, got alot of touching, some sucking and even unzippered her jeans which was a little different because the zipper was in the back.
London Hub: After all the posts about this place I think you can figure it out.;)
Safari: Ive drank here a few times during the afternoon and can say that the bartenders are decent looking here. Would like to sit with the younger one that always wears a skirt, but she sits with one of my friends so I dont bother. Theres some girls during the afternoon here but I havent sat with any them. If you are in the area, you can get a morning massage at Ohana which is near, have couple drinks here walk to Femme Nu which opens at 1:30pm see some dancers and get couple more drinks. And then hit the many amps within walking distance.:)
Blus Sea: If you are in the Kaimuki area, this bar is on 11th ave near Subway's. It opens at 11:30am every day. The girls are all older, 40+. The bartender/co-owner is pretty friendly and will probably try to give you alot of pupus. She gets kinda playful after a few drinks. One of the ladies, Mimi I think her name is, has a decent face, but has a nice bod with large natural boobs and really good size nips. One day I saw her wear tight workout pants with a fairly tight tank top with no bra and no panty lines. Looked pretty nice for an older lady. This bar is not bad if you find someone interesting, theres some cozy tables behind the jukebox and tables up the stars for a little more privacy.
Thats all the bars I can think of at the moment. Hope it helps you out a little, but dont be surprised if you find only old ladies, heh.
Happy hunting
I went to London on a weekngiht was about after 9:00 pm and it was slow there. So i say on the bar and was playing those video machines. Just a side bar, when i used to wait at the bars to check out the women or wait for a girl becasue she was busy, i started to play the machines and i got hooked but it is entertaining.
Well, anyway, this girls comes and starts talking, looks about 40 and has a nice rack, oh but that booze breath just annoys me. So she starts telling me about going to a booth but am busy with the game so she says, I have to go the restroom and will be back. Well in the meantime, Young comes over and tells me, hey long time not see, I tell her I have been busy working which is true. Well the girl comes back from the restroom and Young tells her to get lost in Korean. Well after a few minutes sees that my attention span is not there and leaves. Then in less then 30 seconds Penny comes over and we talk and then tell here let's go the the room, she says okay. We get there and do the mish, daty, cbj, cow girl and back to mish to finish. Actually I like Penny better as she has more personality and Young is too mechanical for me at times.
Pd $ was good and also they both work early usually.
Was in the Kalihi area around 7pm last nite and decided to checkout SuzieQ. This place was packed. Sat at the bar to just scope out the place. Seems the loud bunch of people sitting at the bigger tables was just celebrating someone's birthday. An older lady that recognized me from some other bar starts talking to me. I make a comment that theres some nice looking younger girls working. So she asks me if I want to meet one of them and starts calling girls that arent busy over for my inspection, I guess. Being that almost all of the tables were taken, I told 1 girl that if she can find an open table I would buy her a drink. So she finds one in the corner by the karaoke machine, which was cozy enough for a little action. Find out she is 31 yrs old with no kids. Looks more on the innocent side with a fairly nice figure and has a sorta little girl kinda voice. When asked what she is drinking she was honest about it and said watered down shoju which I thought was cool, since most girls would straight-out lie to you about their drink unless they drink beer. Did my introductory inspection of her clothes. She was wearing a low hanging top and a kinda long denim skirt with a greyish colored bra and some black regular panties. Got my hand down the top of her blouse and felt up her nips, not bad size, but the table wasnt private enough to do any sucking. Bought her another drink and just felt her up and rubbed her panties. The whole time she has her hand in my shorts stroking me. After she finishes her second drink I tell her I will come back again and would like to sit with her when its not so crowded. She hugs me and gives me couple kisses, stands up and hugs and kisses me again and walks me to the door. All in all a pretty nice experience.
Went by Friday and it was pretty packed. Mama has a good following but I know a lot of the girls from other bars and they are all the hungry types. They know Suzie's a hot place right now so they are all pushing while the iron is still hot. So while the food is good, no play and some of them push kinda fast. Just pace yourself.
Faconnable,
Although what KK is true, there are some "diamonds in the rough", but it is a hit-and-miss deal. You just have to be at the right place at the right time. Here are some places that I've seen girls of interest during the afternoon.
Monalia: Although theres only a couple older girls here during the afternoon, there is usually a younger girl that works everyday and comes in around 1pm. Her name is Candy. She is in her 30's and nice face and decent bod with nice, natural boobs (very soft). One drawback is that she doesnt speak english very well. She has had mixed reviews on the boards, but I found her to be very playful in the booths and got alot of play outta her.
All Inn: The day bartendress is older, but nice to look at. Only a couple older ladies here when they open, about 10am I think, but Ive seen younger girls come in as early as 1pm or so. This bar is too small and the tables too open for my comfort and I havent sat with any of the girls here.
Cheers Station: I usually go here on thursdays during the afternoon just to sit at the bar and watch the bartendress Kimberly. ;) She is probably 40 something but has a nice face and a gorgeous body in my opinion. Just love to drink beer and watch her especially if she is wearing one of her tighter fitting outfits. Another girl is usually there too, guess they ride in together, who is younger and fairly cute. Think they open at noon and theres a couple older girls there also. This is the only bar that I would love to do the kitchen mama who is young and pretty.:)
My Place??(the bar by Diners near the Kalihi post office): This place opens at 10:30am. Bartender is fairly old and about 4 older girls. Havent sat with them personally, but my retired friend sits with one of them, and kinda get the impression that all of them will play at the tables. The few times I've been there I've seen a couple younger girls come in in the early afternoon. Ive sat with the darker skinned one, with big natural boobs but like so many koreans has a flat ass. She was very playful, got alot of touching, some sucking and even unzippered her jeans which was a little different because the zipper was in the back.
London Hub: After all the posts about this place I think you can figure it out.;)
Safari: Ive drank here a few times during the afternoon and can say that the bartenders are decent looking here. Would like to sit with the younger one that always wears a skirt, but she sits with one of my friends so I dont bother. Theres some girls during the afternoon here but I havent sat with any them. If you are in the area, you can get a morning massage at Ohana which is near, have couple drinks here walk to Femme Nu which opens at 1:30pm see some dancers and get couple more drinks. And then hit the many amps within walking distance.:)
Blus Sea: If you are in the Kaimuki area, this bar is on 11th ave near Subway's. It opens at 11:30am every day. The girls are all older, 40+. The bartender/co-owner is pretty friendly and will probably try to give you alot of pupus. She gets kinda playful after a few drinks. One of the ladies, Mimi I think her name is, has a decent face, but has a nice bod with large natural boobs and really good size nips. One day I saw her wear tight workout pants with a fairly tight tank top with no bra and no panty lines. Looked pretty nice for an older lady. This bar is not bad if you find someone interesting, theres some cozy tables behind the jukebox and tables up the stars for a little more privacy.
Thats all the bars I can think of at the moment. Hope it helps you out a little, but dont be surprised if you find only old ladies, heh.
Happy hunting
There's always play at Mona's--even if she suppies it herself. I don't like her style but then that's just me. I don't like how she encourages her girls to get all ripped on shots and then push their dunken ass bodies on customers--I think there's a word in Webster that means screwing a cadaver. So Monalia is not for me. London is better since its also a sure thing but without the 3 extra shots just to get her upstairs.
Cheers is the best run bar in Kalihi. Always crowded but June takes care of her customers. I have never seen much more play than a titty grab now and then.
Went by Friday and it was pretty packed. Mama has a good following but I know a lot of the girls from other bars and they are all the hungry types. They know Suzie's a hot place right now so they are all pushing while the iron is still hot. So while the food is good, no play and some of them push kinda fast. Just pace yourself.Thanks for the info. Guess I was lucky to find the girl that sat with me the other night. She was a young pretty girl that was fun to sit with. Since it was crowded and the table by the karaoke machine isnt all that private, I did all that I think I couldve done. Got the usual grabbing and rubbing. Also was able to feel her up when she stood up to see if one of her customers came in. And her hand stroking me was just good too. And all this for 2 drinks seems like a good deal. :)
Anyway one thing I'm beginning to understand is if the girl is comfortable and not nervous about people seeing what we mongers do at the tables, they will be more open to let us do more. Thats why now, if I see someone interesting, I will try to sit with her when the bar is slow and in the most secluded table. But if you make the girl comfortable, you can get some play at even a very open table.
There's always play at Mona's--even if she suppies it herself. I don't like her style but then that's just me. I don't like how she encourages her girls to get all ripped on shots and then push their dunken ass bodies on customers--I think there's a word in Webster that means screwing a cadaver. So Monalia is not for me. London is better since its also a sure thing but without the 3 extra shots just to get her upstairs.
Cheers is the best run bar in Kalihi. Always crowded but June takes care of her customers. I have never seen much more play than a titty grab now and then.Yea Cheers has a good atmosphere and alot of nice ladies there and good food. But as stated in my previous post there is action available. The booths on the far corner to the left of the entrance as you walk in are secluded enough. The one thing I dont like is that its all double table booths with a divider. The divider is not a problem when no one is sitting on the other side, but since its one big table, you cant move the table or the seat. So you cant make any extra room for the lady if she goes down on you and in my experience she did bump her head once. LOL.
Happy hunting
Anonymous808
02-27-06, 17:12
If you guys are in Pearl Kai, go to the bar facing 24 hour fitness... There is a girl there named Nana. She is around 40years old with some soft, natural C/D's. She is very accomodating after the first drink (just go for the gold), but takes a few drinks to get what we're all after. Watch out as she pushes very fast, and don't bring more that you're willing to spend, cause she will ask to see. She'll even ask if you have a credit card to spend more money.
Play safe and happy mongering...
Faconnable
02-28-06, 01:29
Thats all the bars I can think of at the moment. Hope it helps you out a little, but dont be surprised if you find only old ladies, heh.
Happy hunting
Holy crap! thanks for the grip of information. I have about 4 hours to kill until my buddy arrives, so GAME ON!
I'll report back my findings.
James D 2004
02-28-06, 01:58
Where's the report? Base on your previous luck, I guess only old ladies?
Turboman808
03-01-06, 04:07
Faconnable,
Monalia: Although theres only a couple older girls here during the afternoon, there is usually a younger girl that works everyday and comes in around 1pm. Her name is Candy. She is in her 30's and nice face and decent bod with nice, natural boobs (very soft). One drawback is that she doesnt speak english very well. She has had mixed reviews on the boards, but I found her to be very playful in the booths and got alot of play outta her.
Happy huntingI think I might be responsible for Candy's mixed review. In fact, I don't recall any other post on her except mine. She speaks Korean, but mostly Japanese. If you can converse in either, you'll be fine. She is a sweet looking girl, and is fun to be around. She didn't offer any play, and I didn't push. That's my bad, not hers. She kept asking me how long since I had sex. I guess that was a hint, but she didn't seem like the type I wanted to screw at the moment. She told me where she lives and gave me her apartment number. I guess I should follow up for a quickie.
She keeps calling me though, even though I went there only once. I don't answer, as I can see her name on my cell's caller ID. She will be moving to a new bar with her "sister" Lisa.
Don't know if there are any Hana/Princess Pub fans, but you probably know that she'll be changing bars shortly too.
Went AMPing tonight, but since the Massage Parlor board seems to be obsessed over Ohana, I think I'll pass on submitting a review, since I didn't go to Ohana.
Turboman
Turbo,
Post your report Turboman, I just posted another from when I went to SS again this past weekend. Theres other places other than Ohana, especially since they dont let me in. LOL!
Nightshade67
03-02-06, 04:50
Last Thursday I did some bar hopping. Started off at Sundance (Strip Club) then headed to Kalihi. First stop was Suzie Q as I heard people talking about this place. It was kind of busy (at about 1045pm) This girl came up to me started talking then took be to a both, bought her about 3 drinks but didn't play much my choice as I was not into her, she wasn't bad but wasn't turning me on. She kept trying to kiss me though. Then I left.
Next stopped by Cheer's station. Few nice looking girls here. Was hungry heard to food was good thats why I went. To bad they stopped serving at 1200. Oh well, then this Flipina girl sat at the bar and started talking to me. I wasn't interested in buying her a drink so didn't, Left there and headed to the next bar.
Next was club Refresh. This bar has a couple of not bad girls and one good looker. However the girls are always usually with someone. There was one that was really cute, however kept sitting with this older guy. In fact mostly older people go here. I'll probably go again to see if I can sit with her.
Anyway thats about it, all in all a lost and not much fun : (
Last Thursday I did some bar hopping. Started off at Sundance (Strip Club) then headed to Kalihi. First stop was Suzie Q as I heard people talking about this place. It was kind of busy (at about 1045pm) This girl came up to me started talking then took be to a both, bought her about 3 drinks but didn't play much my choice as I was not into her, she wasn't bad but wasn't turning me on. She kept trying to kiss me though. Then I left.
Next stopped by Cheer's station. Few nice looking girls here. Was hungry heard to food was good thats why I went. To bad they stopped serving at 1200. Oh well, then this Flipina girl sat at the bar and started talking to me. I wasn't interested in buying her a drink so didn't, Left there and headed to the next bar.
Next was club Refresh. This bar has a couple of not bad girls and one good looker. However the girls are always usually with someone. There was one that was really cute, however kept sitting with this older guy. In fact mostly older people go here. I'll probably go again to see if I can sit with her.
Anyway thats about it, all in all a lost and not much fun : (Nightshade,
I think all of us in here know what ya mean. There have been great barhopping nights, and there are have been mediocre nights too. Its all part of the thrill of the hunt!
Each night is different, even at the same establishment, so just keep searching. In the end, there will be more fun nights than dud nights! And don't forget to post the results!
Ahuihou,
PD
James D 2004
03-03-06, 11:30
Holy crap! thanks for the grip of information. I have about 4 hours to kill until my buddy arrives, so GAME ON!
I'll report back my findings.
That's many days ago. Where's your report? You couldn't hold your gun and hit on 50 year olds?
Faconnable
03-03-06, 12:36
That's many days ago. Where's your report? You couldn't hold your gun and hit on 50 year olds?
I don't hit the island until the end of the month. Will report back upon my return.
Nightshade67,
Of the 3 bars you mentioned in your post, in your opinion, do you think Refresh has the cutest girls? I think I'll have to broaden my horizons and check that place out.
Nightshade67
03-03-06, 22:06
Nightshade67,
Of the 3 bars you mentioned in your post, in your opinion, do you think Refresh has the cutest girls? I think I'll have to broaden my horizons and check that place out.Cheer may have had a couple too, but the place is more busy and seem like not so much for play. Refresh has one really cute one probably better then all the bars I've seen in Kalihi, but like I said I've been there 3 times in the past month and she's always with someone. I always go late though, close to 11pm and on the weekends usually so maybe thats why. There are 2 others that aren't to bad too. Most of the bar is open and doesn't look so much for play, however I am sure there is because as you walk in to the left is an area that is really hidden out of site more so then most places and I've seen people disappear to there so I wouldn't doubt that you can get some action. I might try again this weekend.
Asianlover4u
03-04-06, 11:59
Went to Cache Lounge a few nights ago and it was practically empty. This girl Judy (I think) came and sat next to me and asked for one drink which I said ok. Then as soon as the drink came she started rubbing my crotch. She said to me that she would give me a bj, so I asked how much she said 100 so I said ok. So we moved into the dark corner and started the action. She took off her top and her underwear, so I was able to finger her, suck on her nipples. She sucked on my nipples and got down to business. It was an overall good experience except for the fact that you dont get a clean room with a bed to ly in.
Kalihi Kid
03-04-06, 12:23
This is addressed to all you hunters out there, those who take as much thrill in the hunt as getting the gold. I would like to start a discussion on strategy and the part the alcohol plays in it. It seems that some girls, in particular the more desireable ones, will claim they don't drink alcohol or at least don't feel like drinking on the night that you are there. I have a theory that girls who play always drink but those who drink do not always play. I would like to hear from others, based on your own experience, would you therefore say it is true that we can automatically eliminate those who insist they do not drink as a player for that evening? In other words can it be said that we should not waste time and money on buying water for those that do not want to drink if we went there to play? Has anyone gotten play from one that didn't drink alcohol?
Jack Mehoff
03-05-06, 01:20
This one girl (viet) always drinks when I sit with her. But I haven't really been able to get any serious play from her. I think shes just a cockteaser.
Kalihi Kid
03-05-06, 06:15
This one girl (viet) always drinks when I sit with her. But I haven't really been able to get any serious play from her. I think shes just a cockteaser.Does she drink real alcohol or just water? If she has to lie about drinking alcohol I think the chances of her being a player are nil. Suggest you position yourself so that you can see what she gets from the bartender. If it's a mixed drink usually the bartender is in on the deception and will pour 90 percent water and a little bit of wine or some other alcohol for color and smell. They drink Oly Gold because they say it contains less alcohol although I have seen women get smashed drinking enough of it.
I think theres alot of other things involved, but in general I would say that you would have a better chance if the girl drinks alcohol.
Turboman808
03-05-06, 17:18
Went to Cache Lounge a few nights ago and it was practically empty. This girl Judy (I think) came and sat next to me and asked for one drink which I said ok. Then as soon as the drink came she started rubbing my crotch. She said to me that she would give me a bj, so I asked how much she said 100 so I said ok. So we moved into the dark corner and started the action. She took off her top and her underwear, so I was able to finger her, suck on her nipples. She sucked on my nipples and got down to business. It was an overall good experience except for the fact that you dont get a clean room with a bed to ly in.Covered BJ or BBBJ?
Mahalo,
Turboman
Does she drink real alcohol or just water? If she has to lie about drinking alcohol I think the chances of her being a player are nil. Suggest you position yourself so that you can see what she gets from the bartender. If it's a mixed drink usually the bartender is in on the deception and will pour 90 percent water and a little bit of wine or some other alcohol for color and smell. They drink Oly Gold because they say it contains less alcohol although I have seen women get smashed drinking enough of it.
lying about drinking alcohol means nothing about her being a player. kb girls won't drink an unwatered down drink because they don't want to get plastered early. remember, this is their job, if they drank regular alcoholic drinks, they would be passed out by 11... they drink watered down stuff because they want to make sure they can work and take your money till the bar closes...
Kalihi Kid
03-06-06, 13:30
lying about drinking alcohol means nothing about her being a player. kb girls won't drink an unwatered down drink because they don't want to get plastered early. remember, this is their job, if they drank regular alcoholic drinks, they would be passed out by 11... they drink watered down stuff because they want to make sure they can work and take your money till the bar closes...Are you saying that you would buy a girl water all night till closing and still expect to get play? I seem to think that one who does that is taking your money under false pretenses. Does anyone else think that you can get play from a hostess that just drinks water all night?
Does she drink real alcohol or just water? If she has to lie about drinking alcohol I think the chances of her being a player are nil. Suggest you position yourself so that you can see what she gets from the bartender. If it's a mixed drink usually the bartender is in on the deception and will pour 90 percent water and a little bit of wine or some other alcohol for color and smell. They drink Oly Gold because they say it contains less alcohol although I have seen women get smashed drinking enough of it.So true about the girls getting a watered down alcoholic beverage or a fake beer. If you sit at the bar you will see that its common practice to pour a mixed drink glass almost full with water and then a dash of liquor on the top. They will even go through the trouble of putting non-alcoholic beer in a regular beer bottle. Was watching this happen at SuzieQ while seated at the bar. And the bartender did it like it was a regular thing and in front of everyone. If you want to be sure they drink alcohol, do what my old-timer retired friends do, tell them to drink beer and let you open it for them at the table.;)
lying about drinking alcohol means nothing about her being a player. kb girls won't drink an unwatered down drink because they don't want to get plastered early. remember, this is their job, if they drank regular alcoholic drinks, they would be passed out by 11... they drink watered down stuff because they want to make sure they can work and take your money till the bar closes...Ah, but with some of the girls it is usually easier to get into their panties later in the evening when they are intoxicated than when they first come in and sober.
Iliketowatch
03-06-06, 15:49
My KB ex used to tell me, the girl's choice to drink is usually based on three general rules: She is depressed and wants to get a buzz (real drinks), she thinks you have money and will play the drunken flirt role to make you feel you may get some later (watered down drink), or she feels you may leave if she doesn't drink alcohol. It has nothing to do with if she's is loose or not. Make a small advance and she if she backs away, make a move to leave and see if she gets closer. If she wants you to stay, she will allow play (to what degree is subjective). But be willing to pay. They can get play outside of the bars to satisfy their hormones. Play inside the bar means making money. Their attitudes really differ from the VB's. In Vietnam, you have sex or they kill you, in HI you have sex and they pay you. If you will stay with her while she drinks water, she will drink water. If you'll leave if she doesn't drink alcohol, she will drink alcohol. Again, we have the power. If she lets you leave because she has other customers that won't play with her, or a boyfriend on the side, you've lost the power, just say next! With the exception of my buddy, who gets a thrill from trying to break a specific chick's will, we all get too fixated on 1 girl, trying to get play or sex, when we should be exploring the field for the ones that will. This is the theory of only the fittest getting to mate in the animal kingdom to carry on the strongest of lines. This is the KB-man's downfall. We want the hottie with chains around her knees when we can easily have the homely with the welcome mat carved in her pubs. But it's not in our programming.
Kalihi Kid
03-06-06, 20:27
My KB ex used to tell me, the girl's choice to drink is usually based on three general rules: She is depressed and wants to get a buzz (real drinks), she thinks you have money and will play the drunken flirt role to make you feel you may get some later (watered down drink), or she feels you may leave if she doesn't drink alcohol. It has nothing to do with if she's is loose or not. . .
Liketowatch is "wise beyond his years". I am guessing since I don't know how old he really is. We have all had the experience of wanting something that we can't have. Spending money on a chick who will not play is such a case. Guys who let girls drink $20 glasses of water are going to get what they pay for. According to Liketowatch's logic, drinking alcohol in a bar for hostesses is "work". Since most people want to do the least amount of work for pay then it is only reasonable that hostesses will want to drink the least amount possible for the same pay. If a customer is willing to pay a girl not to work who could blame her if she takes full advantage of the situation by not working. In the final analysis, we go to KB's to find someone who is willing to work for what we are willing to pay. If she is unwilling to work and indicates so by not having a real drink, we should, as Liketowatch suggests immediately move on. If she doesn't indulge in alcohol or is deceptive about it, that is a clear indication of her willingness (or lack thereof) to go further. If I am wrong, let me hear from any players who have bought water all night and got play.
My KB ex used to tell me, the girl's choice to drink is usually based on three general rules: She is depressed and wants to get a buzz (real drinks), she thinks you have money and will play the drunken flirt role to make you feel you may get some later (watered down drink), or she feels you may leave if she doesn't drink alcohol. It has nothing to do with if she's is loose or not. Make a small advance and she if she backs away, make a move to leave and see if she gets closer. If she wants you to stay, she will allow play (to what degree is subjective). But be willing to pay. They can get play outside of the bars to satisfy their hormones. Play inside the bar means making money. Their attitudes really differ from the VB's. In Vietnam, you have sex or they kill you, in HI you have sex and they pay you. If you will stay with her while she drinks water, she will drink water. If you'll leave if she doesn't drink alcohol, she will drink alcohol. Again, we have the power. If she lets you leave because she has other customers that won't play with her, or a boyfriend on the side, you've lost the power, just say next! With the exception of my buddy, who gets a thrill from trying to break a specific chick's will, we all get too fixated on 1 girl, trying to get play or sex, when we should be exploring the field for the ones that will. This is the theory of only the fittest getting to mate in the animal kingdom to carry on the strongest of lines. This is the KB-man's downfall. We want the hottie with chains around her knees when we can easily have the homely with the welcome mat carved in her pubs. But it's not in our programming.
This is correct, let me also add that some girls tell me that they need a buzz in order to deal with their customer and keep a smile on their face.
I myself do not care if she drinks real or fake. It is difficult for these girls to drink (real) every day and if they do they turn into an alcoholic. Bottom line, if the girl wants to sleep with you she will and if she does not want to she will keep leading you on.
Iliketowatch
03-06-06, 21:30
The only lie detector us guys have on our side is . . . will she sit with you, without you buying her a drink, if she has no other customers. If you keep feeding her drinks, you'll never know for sure. The choice/agony is yours.
Men Are Dogs
03-06-06, 21:42
The farther you get from Kapiolani, the greater % you can get play or more. The farther you get from Kapiolani, the older they get. Can't make money from looks, then they need to comprimise. Pure enconomics. Supply and demand . . . as far as the KB's go. I'm new to the game, but I'm getting tapped out, real fast. The only play I ever got was with Tammy at Niagara, on my 1st sitting with her. Seems like a lot of the girls are very wary of LE or INS nowadays.
The farther you get from Kapiolani, the greater % you can get play or more. The farther you get from Kapiolani, the older they get. Can't make money from looks, then they need to comprimise. Pure enconomics. Supply and demand . . . as far as the KB's go. I'm new to the game, but I'm getting tapped out, real fast. The only play I ever got was with Tammy at Niagara, on my 1st sitting with her. Seems like a lot of the girls are very wary of LE or INS nowadays.It kinda seems that the farther away the older they get...just look at the girls in Waipahu. But as far as the KB's go, for me anyway, that theres no difference getting action between the bars in Pearl City/Aiea, Kalihi, or Sheridan/Makaloa. What I do notice is that if a bar has some secluded back tables you will be able to find girls who will play at those tables. This is just my observations from past experiences, since I'm presently just hanging at the bars in the Kalihi area.
Went to Casino over the weekend with a bunch of guys. Bebe and Miki (China girl) sat with us. Both were very playful. They took 2 guys to the back booths for some play. Bebe allowed DATY and Miki allowed fingering. Both guys said they sepnd about 1.2 each. Girls constantly talked about how slow it is. Go get'um guys. Desparation is setting in. You'll get farther with less resistance if you flash the cash now.
Any good info on Allure?
I heard the owner is hot along with the others.
Play there?
Turboman808
03-09-06, 21:38
Went to Monalia a couple days ago, and sat with Candy again. This time, I decided to have fun. I only had $0. 6 in my pocket to spare, so I knew I was out of trouble.
So anyway, she asks me where I've been, and I said different bars, mostly London Hub. She asks why LH, and I said the girls there give "sexu. " She is astonished, and asks how much. I say usually $1. Then she goes on in mostly Japanese about the use of condoms, AIDS, etc.
Then I say, Monalia is famous for having sex too. More astonishment; she says she has never seen it. I asked about the private room, she said she's never been, but has seen it rented out for karaoke parties with groups of 4-5 people.
Anyway, then she tells me I'm a good, decent man, and starts to tenderly stroke my face. Honestly, this was really tender. We start to talk about music, and I tell her I have a Japanese CD in my car for her. We walk to my car (dammit, she saw I drive a European luxury) and I give her the CD. She hugs me and looks at me with tears in her eyes.
Okay, I'm rambling. The point of the story? I dunno. I guess I went to Monalia after reading this forum, looking for some hot KB action. Candy is young and fairly cute, but no action. All the other "girls" look older than my aunties, so I pass.
So I'm concluding that unless you really need to partake in the hunt, AMPs are by far a better value, IMHO.
Aloha,
Turboman
p.s. peeked into Suzie Qs but did not see the hot looker I saw before.
Went to Casino over the weekend with a bunch of guys. Bebe and Miki (China girl) sat with us. Both were very playful. They took 2 guys to the back booths for some play. Bebe allowed DATY and Miki allowed fingering. Both guys said they sepnd about 1.2 each. Girls constantly talked about how slow it is. Go get'um guys. Desparation is setting in. You'll get farther with less resistance if you flash the cash now.April does alot of play there also.
LM do you know if the day bartendress Kimberly plays at the back tables?
Turbo
I guess you do look like the innocent, boyfriend type of guy. And the euro/luxury car...guess she is looking at you as a potential husband now. I guess I just look like a regular bar customer to her. I dont get the nice innocent routine the few times I've sat with her. From the very first time I've sat with her at those tables along the wall near the storage room it was drinkie/for play. I havent been there for maybe a month or so, but I know if I sit with her, the first thing she usually does is grab my hand and put it between her thighs and then its all touchy, touchy after that. Oh and I've also seen her go up the stairs with one of her customers with champagne, so she knows what goes on up there.
Dunno man, I guess to her I'm just one of her bar customers that she feels comfortable enough with to let some play happen, but not nice, innocent and/or rich looking for any romantic feelings.
But one thing I gotta agree is that she is a really nice person. She just enjoys talking about life, about having a family, about all those little kids she sees on her morning walks at the park and that some day she would like to have one. Dont know the circumstances, but its just so unfortunate that she has to work in the bar.
I heard that Niagara had some INS visitors and they took 5 girls away for no green card.
April does alot of play there also.
LM do you know if the day bartendress Kimberly plays at the back tables?
Sorry guys was thinking about Cheers Station while reading Local's post. So you probably wont find those girls at Casino. They are at Cheers.
As for Casino, I think that short pretty girl, Jay, plays. I've seen her sitting at the tables by the fish tanks often and seen her go into the rooms a few times. Sat with her once and got a little touchy, feely action.
Turboman808
03-12-06, 04:15
Turbo
I guess you do look like the innocent, boyfriend type of guy. And the euro/luxury car...guess she is looking at you as a potential husband now. I guess I just look like a regular bar customer to her. I dont get the nice innocent routine the few times I've sat with her. From the very first time I've sat with her at those tables along the wall near the storage room it was drinkie/for play. I havent been there for maybe a month or so, but I know if I sit with her, the first thing she usually does is grab my hand and put it between her thighs and then its all touchy, touchy after that. Oh and I've also seen her go up the stairs with one of her customers with champagne, so she knows what goes on up there.
Dunno man, I guess to her I'm just one of her bar customers that she feels comfortable enough with to let some play happen, but not nice, innocent and/or rich looking for any romantic feelings.
But one thing I gotta agree is that she is a really nice person. She just enjoys talking about life, about having a family, about all those little kids she sees on her morning walks at the park and that some day she would like to have one. Dont know the circumstances, but its just so unfortunate that she has to work in the bar.Oysterogo,
Mahalo, Brah. Btw, I'm not trying to imply that I'm good looking (I'm not) or wealthy (not that either). In fact, my female co-workers all tell me they are not intimidated around me. They tell me things that I don't wanna hear, because I'm "one of the girls." If they only knew I visit AMPs and KBs, they'd die!
As for Candy, I guess I should go back and harass her and do some touchy/feely, but I won't. Now that I know what you shared, I think I'll just see what angle she takes. She called my cell phone again today, but I didn't answer. I actually am getting to like the girl. Maybe, like one someone shared, if she likes me that much, she won't ask me to buy her drinks. NOT!
Thanks again, be safe!
Turboman
Its cool Turbo...just trying to help out my fellow mongers. She has maybe called me once and that was over a month ago and never invited me over her place. So she must have more feelings for you than her other bar customers. Maybe you should follow up on her...answer her calls and accept her invitation if she invites you over again. Giving her that cd was pretty cool. Seems like she wants to hook up with you for something more than just a bar kinda relationship.
Anyone saw or seen Sunny? Been dying to meet,sit and maybe eventually go to the back room with her.Newbie here. Awesome forum. Sunny only comes to work when she needs money. Sometimes she won't come in for months at a time. Had the pleasure of going to her place once, paid 2 bucks for double session. Never would do it again though.
Leilani Lounge on the upper side of Keeaumoku. Opposite of Cheveron. .6 for fs. Chicks are skanky though and the place is a dump.
Turboman808
03-13-06, 02:18
Leilani Lounge on the upper side of Keeaumoku. Opposite of Cheveron. .6 for fs. Chicks are skanky though and the place is a dump.Ditto for Club Sandy, smack center of Keeamoku. Has a stage for strippers, and the ladies are old skankers, but you would definitely get FS for cheap. Be like me and make sure you go in shitfaced drunk. I rented a room at the Pagoda and driving home was not an issue.
Please be safe, stay covered!
Turboman
Ryu,
How skanky? Like on a scale of 1 to 10 with being the ugliest you've ever seen, hehe. The last time I was there a few years back, I saw a rat run across the floor, jump on the table across from me and disappear in the darkness.
I used to go there before to cruise, yes the place is a dump and somtimes smells. There was only one fat korean chick last time who has been there forever. Then there was another younger girl but looked pregnant not fat, wa weird. Kinda of scary place maybe they got better chicks now, oh well can dream.
Happy hunting.
Leilani Lounge on the upper side of Keeaumoku. Opposite of Cheveron. .6 for fs. Chicks are skanky though and the place is a dump.
Care to elaborate more on this. Sounds interesting. What time do they open? Is it good for some early afternoon fun?
On the way to Velvet on Saturday was in Kalihi and figured I stop by one of my favorite bar from a few years ago, Azalea now called Vegas II. To my surprise there were a bunch of girls still working from when I used to frequent this bar. Kinda different setup though...no secluded back tables anymore. I'm sure theres still alot of action there and theres still the karaoke rooms. Most of the girls, if not all, used to allow p4p before and probably still do. But this is a good place to either get drunk and in the mood before heading to London Hub or to eat and refuel after being at London Hub.:)
Jack Mehoff
03-13-06, 16:19
Newbie here. Awesome forum. Sunny only comes to work when she needs money. Sometimes she won't come in for months at a time. Had the pleasure of going to her place once, paid 2 bucks for double session. Never would do it again though.
Why wouldn't you do it again? I never had the chance to sit with and get to know her. But I heard some pretty good stories about her service.
Iliketowatch
03-13-06, 17:15
Any word on which 5 girls were taken away? Everyone at Niagara seems to deny a raid.
Men Are Dogs
03-13-06, 17:30
Can any one tell what happens in the private rooms at the KB's. I'm new to the circles, and some girls have asked us to go to the rooms. Sometimes I see one guy and girl go to the rooms and other times I see a whole bunch of guys and girls in the room. Are they always having sex or playing in there? How much do we have to spend? Please help me so I don't get burned.
Can any one tell what happens in the private rooms at the KB's. I'm new to the circles, and some girls have asked us to go to the rooms. Sometimes I see one guy and girl go to the rooms and other times I see a whole bunch of guys and girls in the room. Are they always having sex or playing in there? How much do we have to spend? Please help me so I don't get burned.
What happens? You usually get ripped off. Go to a massage parlor instead.
What happens? You usually get ripped off. Go to a massage parlor instead.So true.
Men Are Dogs it is a hell of lot cheaper to go to an amp. If you do happen to go into the karaoke room with a girl, expect to pay at least $$ and thats after negotiating with the girl and buying her drinks. And thats just to get into the room. This is where alot of crap happens. The best experience I had in the room was bj/fs for $$. The wrost was getting to look at the girl topless and a little touching. Most times you can get at least a bj, but if you take too long to cum, she might just leave. Some girls will give you a bj/hj until you are all excited then ask you for more money to finish. So you cant really tell what you are gonna get in the karaoke room for your $$-$$$$, while at the amps you are guaranteed at least fs for $$ or less. Oh...and these prices dont include London Hub, we all know what goes on there. ;)
Peckerwood
03-14-06, 11:41
Leilani Lounge is actually a viet bar. Usually theres only the chubby korean lady and the owner and possibly some crazies. The place is dump as the owner doesn't really fix anything in there. Back when the previous owner of Autumn Moon(Maily) was there it was pretty good with some good looking girls.
PW
Any word on which 5 girls were taken away? Everyone at Niagara seems to deny a raid.
A girl at another bar is the one who told me about a raid, her roommate works at Niagara. I also talked to Maya and she said she heard about the raid and asked Miki momma about it and Miki denied it. Maybe it never happened, I don't know why this girl would make up a story like that.
Care to elaborate more on this. Sounds interesting. What time do they open? Is it good for some early afternoon fun?Panda,
I'm quite sure they open at 2 pm. Although I have never tried it that ealry in the day, I'm absolutely sure that it is possible for some Afternoon Delite. Leilani Lounge isnt a place to relax, drink beer and watch live sports on a widescreen TV. Its a place to "unload". Best is to go Shitfaced. So that the Fuglys look better.
Leilani Lounge is actually a viet bar. Usually theres only the chubby korean lady and the owner and possibly some crazies. The place is dump as the owner doesn't really fix anything in there. Back when the previous owner of Autumn Moon(Maily) was there it was pretty good with some good looking girls.
PWYou are absolutely right (I should have listed this topic in the Viet section).
Why wouldn't you do it again? I never had the chance to sit with and get to know her. But I heard some pretty good stories about her service.Jack,
I think I've seen her about 7-8 times, The last of which was at her place. The first few sessions were awesome (BBBJ, cim, okole action) but soon after, it went downhill and "old" pretty quick. Which is why I opted for the "home time". Thought it'd be a nice change from the ole humdrum. But it was the same thing. Just too mechanical, or should I say "like going thru the motions". In the beginning, it was unrushed and relaxing. Sunny would fulfill my every fantasy, but now its hurry up I have a customer queue. I guess I just got bored of her, plus the fact that her breath is not the best smelling and her vaj needs a douche. The earlier sessions did not include any of these smelling varieties. I'm sure you'll enjoy her at first, but maybe not after a couple of monotonus sessions. Don't forget to bring your cell phone, for she does allow nude pics.
Men Are Dogs
03-14-06, 18:52
I'm too new at this so your information is valuable and well taken. Mucho Mahalo's! I guess if a girl asks you to go to a room she is almost implying you look like a sucker that is too horny to keep your wallet in your back pocket. I thought all the girls in these bars were horny, but I'm seeing it's actually money-hungryness. Now that I read the posts from the past I can see why you either pay and play (maybe) or try to hook-up to get the sex.
Jack Mehoff
03-14-06, 23:41
So true.
Men Are Dogs it is a hell of lot cheaper to go to an amp. If you do happen to go into the karaoke room with a girl, expect to pay at least $$ and thats after negotiating with the girl and buying her drinks. And thats just to get into the room. This is where alot of crap happens. The best experience I had in the room was bj/fs for $$. The wrost was getting to look at the girl topless and a little touching. Most times you can get at least a bj, but if you take too long to cum, she might just leave. Some girls will give you a bj/hj until you are all excited then ask you for more money to finish. So you cant really tell what you are gonna get in the karaoke room for your $$-$$$$, while at the amps you are guaranteed at least fs for $$ or less. Oh...and these prices dont include London Hub, we all know what goes on there. ;)
Sounds like you and me might have gone to the karaoke room with the same girl.Who did you go with,if you don't mind me asking. thanks JM
Sounds like you and me might have gone to the karaoke room with the same girl.Who did you go with,if you don't mind me asking. thanks JMAhhh, my most memorable was many years ago with a girl named Cookie in the upstairs room at Hilltop(now called Monalia). She was a really "friendly girl", once even stuck her hand up the leg of my shorts and gave me a hj while drinking at the bar.
My worst was at New Casino, sometime last year or so. I can't remember the girls name though. She only took off her top and didnt allow anything more than grabbing.
Ahhh, my most memorable was many years ago with a girl named Cookie in the upstairs room at Hilltop(now called Monalia). She was a really "friendly girl", once even stuck her hand up the leg of my shorts and gave me a hj while drinking at the bar.
My worst was at New Casino, sometime last year or so. I can't remember the girls name though. She only took off her top and didnt allow anything more than grabbing.
Cookie gives good head.
Cookie gives good head.She was not bad. Too bad she stopped working and I think got married. Saw her a couple times walking near Daie by Ala Moana.
One of my bar friends told me that there are some young girls working in a couple of the Waipahu bars, so I figured I'd go check it out. Stopped by that bar that used to be called Monique's in back of the Waipahu 7-11. Dont know what its called now. To my surprise there were a couple younger girls working with all the aunties there. One looked like she was in her early 30's. Nice looking with colored hair...so she kinda stood out. She was busy at one of the tables so couldnt talk to her. Just drank my beer and left.
The other bar he mentioned was the one on Waipahu Depot Rd. The one right at the corner. Will check it out another night.
She was not bad. Too bad she stopped working and I think got married. Saw her a couple times walking near Daie by Ala Moana.I was told that she is married and owns a bar in Pearl City side.
I heard from my friends of a worker/bartender named Jessica. She seemed to be pretty hot. Anybody got info on her? Used to work the pc area.
I heard from my friends of a worker/bartender named Jessica. She seemed to be pretty hot. Anybody got info on her? Used to work the pc area.Try Christine's, that bar under Flamingoes on the graveyard side. Havent been there for a long time, but I think there was a Jessica working there.
Went here a few days ago. Saw Penny. Made eye contact with Penny. Went to the room with Penny. Had BBBJ and BBFSTCIP with Penny.
Thanks Uncle Benjamin.
Yes, its that easy.
Went here a few days ago. Saw Penny. Made eye contact with Penny. Went to the room with Penny. Had BBBJ and BBFSTCIP with Penny.
Thanks Uncle Benjamin.
Yes, its that easy.
Correction: Yes, she's that easy. lol
Sorry guys, I'm lost. Where are we talking about? Which Penny are we talking about?
Went here a few days ago. Saw Penny. Made eye contact with Penny. Went to the room with Penny. Had BBBJ and BBFSTCIP with Penny.
Thanks Uncle Benjamin.
Yes, its that easy.
Where is "Here?" Are you referring to London Hub, as there is a Penny there?
Thanks!
London Hub would be my guess as to where they are talking about. ;)
Iliketowatch
03-27-06, 15:39
Has anyone noticed the decline in the KB seen? It's not anything close to what it was like 20 years ago, not even remotely close. Am I just getting old or is the thrill just not there anymore? You hunt, get some play, and the next day it's like, I spent $ for that! Anyone check out the new place Velvet?
Has anyone noticed the decline in the KB seen? It's not anything close to what it was like 20 years ago, not even remotely close. Am I just getting old or is the thrill just not there anymore? You hunt, get some play, and the next day it's like, I spent $ for that! Anyone check out the new place Velvet?Been hanging at the KBs for about 18 years and cant really say if its changed, since back in those days I couldnt afford to p4p with the girls. But hearing some of the stories from my retired buddies and the forums, its not as wild now as before. My retired buddies used to do some crazy stuff: have the girl sit on the table and eat her out while another guy is grabbing her tits from behind, crawl under the dividers to get to another table, go under the table and DATY...etc. Dont hear much of that happening now...except if you go into the karaoke rooms, but the prices are getting outrageous. A girl at one of the Pearl Kai bars wanted $$$$$ to go into the room, and the girl was 39 I think and just plain looking...crazy. Anyway thats my take on the scene.
Iliketowatch...in your opinion what has changed in 20 years? Just wanna know your view on the present scene.
I only went to Velvet the saturday of their grand opening. Some nice girls, looked to be all transfers from the other bars. The girl who looked like she was the owner was pretty nice. Havent gone back since.
Iliketowatch
03-28-06, 16:35
Back in the days, besides the drinks for the girls being cheaper, it seems like the gals had a better attitude about working in a bar. There was a lot of "under the table action", even full sex in the back booths. The girls just seemed to accept that it was a part of their job back then. The drink for them was a excuse to be with you so you could explore their bods. You paid to play, not to refresh their bladders. Seems like the "today girl" thinks we are actually buying them a drink. Everyone drank beer or shots (not the watered down kind), no one even dared to ask if the could drink tea. Nowadays they have the attitude like we customers enjoy spending $.20 for their passive company. Most guys don't make $.20 an hour and they expect 4 to 5 drinks per hour for companionship. Got me thinking as of late. Been having a whole lot of luck at Pipeline or even Zanzabar getting the one night stand the last few weeks. If I gotta buy a girl a drink, at least at these place it just five bucks and I'll take my chances on wooing her home with me. At least most of the girls that go to these nightclubs have a preconceived idea that they may hookup that night as opposed to the KB girls that are out for just money. The girls are at work to make big bucks, they are not there because they are horny. If they get arroused, they frequent Africa or Noblis after work to get their rocks off. They know mixing business and pleasure is dangerous.
Men Are Dogs
03-29-06, 19:13
Back in the days, besides the drinks for the girls being cheaper, it seems like the gals had a better attitude about working in a bar. There was a lot of "under the table action", even full sex in the back booths. The girls just seemed to accept that it was a part of their job back then. The drink for them was a excuse to be with you so you could explore their bods. You paid to play, not to refresh their bladders. Seems like the "today girl" thinks we are actually buying them a drink. Everyone drank beer or shots (not the watered down kind), no one even dared to ask if the could drink tea. Nowadays they have the attitude like we customers enjoy spending $.20 for their passive company. Most guys don't make $.20 an hour and they expect 4 to 5 drinks per hour for companionship. Got me thinking as of late. Been having a whole lot of luck at Pipeline or even Zanzabar getting the one night stand the last few weeks. If I gotta buy a girl a drink, at least at these place it just five bucks and I'll take my chances on wooing her home with me. At least most of the girls that go to these nightclubs have a preconceived idea that they may hookup that night as opposed to the KB girls that are out for just money. The girls are at work to make big bucks, they are not there because they are horny. If they get arroused, they frequent Africa or Noblis after work to get their rocks off. They know mixing business and pleasure is dangerous.Like I said, I am new to this game, but listening to the stories my ex boss told, the scene was a whole lot looser and wilder back then. Most of my co-workers get on my case for wasting money at the KB's. They too go pipeline or oceans and will almost always go home with a date. But they were the in "guys" in high school, and I was the outcrowd, so my friends and I (all nerds) hit the KB's for attention. When I look around the bar, I see myself in every booth . . . sad, attention deprived, social misfit, non-lady-killer, feeling proud that a girl is sitting next to him. Spending $20.00 for a drink is stupid on my part but that's the only way I can get a girl to talk to me. I think I go to the bar to be abused by these women. Some sick way of getting attention. There are a few guys that sit at the bar that I wish I could be more like . . . seems like the girls are chasing them rather than vise-versa. They never buy drinks for the girls but the girls always hang around them. What's their trick? Also, what is a house customer?
Iliketowatch: What took you so long to notice? Just kidding. The new generation of KB-girl is Westernized. It's all about them. If they had to do what the previous generation did, they wouldn't work in the bars. You can still get a glimpse of the past in Kalihi or PC, just bring a paper bag and some dark glasses so you don't see what you're feeling. Ever had a toothless bj (joke). All joking aside, that's why I just go for the pay for play and not try to pursue the sex after-hours. You'll go broke just trying to find out if you can score. Some of us didn't buy your "attack on the 1st drink" approach to weed out the non-players, not because it not a good frugal strategy, but because the girl's now days have gotten knee magnetic implants and it's hard to pull the magnets apart. You gotta romance now, feed them shit, hold them gentle, caress their hair, gaze into their eyes, THEN ATTACK! Remember, know your enemy, or your predated tactics will only get you sex with the kitchen mama atop the kim chee. Just having fun! Stay safe.
Nightknight
03-29-06, 21:56
Iliketowatch,
Thanks for the informative post. [IMHO, you deserve to be a Senior Member of this list!] I too have been annoyed by some bars that think that our money grows on trees. I occasionally go to one strip bar located off of King Street (Club Concierge). They have some attractive ladies working there at times. I have had instances where I have been there for less than an hour and the owner Sora is trying to get me to spend over $200 buying the ladies drinks. I am told that things are slow, but why should I have to singlehandedly make up for their lack of business? She wants me to buy each dancer a drink as well as herself. I know that the girls have bills to pay but so do I. Why should I buy a girl a $20 dollar drink if she is dancing on the stage and not at the very least sitting beside me? It is nuts. Yes, I can be a nice guy at times, but let's be reasonable. Why treat me like a sucker? I think that if they were less aggressive in trying to get customers to buy girls drinks (and this applies to all clubs), then they would attract more customers and make more money in the long run.
Incidentally, I too have been trying to find some places to meet and possibly pickup ladies who are not jaded professionals. I was at the Wave Waikiki a few months ago and noticed a couple of white chicks checking me out. Unfortunately, I didn't have the guts to go up to them and close the deal. Next time, I will go for it. I would love to meet some female Japanese tourists or locals. Thanks for sharing some of your favorite pickup spots.
Someone on this list once mentioned that many Korean providers attend the Full Gospel Church. It is interesting that you mentioned Africa and Noblis. Where are these places located?
Nightknight
Iliketowatch,
Thanks for the informative post. [IMHO, you deserve to be a Senior Member of this list!] I too have been annoyed by some bars that think that our money grows on trees. I occasionally go to one strip bar located off of King Street (Club Concierge). They have some attractive ladies working there at times. I have had instances where I have been there for less than an hour and the owner Sora is trying to get me to spend over $200 buying the ladies drinks. I am told that things are slow, but why should I have to singlehandedly make up for their lack of business? She wants me to buy each dancer a drink as well as herself. I know that the girls have bills to pay but so do I. Why should I buy a girl a $20 dollar drink if she is dancing on the stage and not at the very least sitting beside me? It is nuts. Yes, I can be a nice guy at times, but let's be reasonable. Why treat me like a sucker? I think that if they were less aggressive in trying to get customers to buy girls drinks (and this applies to all clubs), then they would attract more customers and make more money in the long run.
Incidentally, I too have been trying to find some places to meet and possibly pickup ladies who are not jaded professionals. I was at the Wave Waikiki a few months ago and noticed a couple of white chicks checking me out. Unfortunately, I didn't have the guts to go up to them and close the deal. Next time, I will go for it. I would love to meet some female Japanese tourists or locals. Thanks for sharing some of your favorite pickup spots.
Someone on this list once mentioned that many Korean providers attend the Full Gospel Church. It is interesting that you mentioned Africa and Noblis. Where are these places located?
NightknightAfrica and Noblesse are no longer around. They used to be on Kona/Hopaka Street and served as a Korean Nightclub/Host bar. I believe the precursor to both of those places was Carnegie.
As for mama getting you to buy drinks for the girls, it's kind of a power trip for them to show their workers they can get their customer to buy the girls drinks. It's the Korean female counterpart to the pissing contest.
I too, have noticed that clubs have been slow. When I first started bar hopping in 1990, the bars were packed every night and full of hot women every night. I think the slowdown started about 2002 when our economy turned and everyone started buying real estate. New homes took money out of the bars, but the old timers were still used to the previous eras spending habits and could not adjust to this change. 2001/2002 is also when the HPD/Immigration crackdown started at the bars. It took it's toll on Patty mama and she sold out to Miki back in 2004. She got tired of LC coming down hard on her as did INS. That's why she only allowed girls with green cards to work for her from @ 2002. There were some without green cards or visas, but their time at New Office was very short.
Homelife must have gotten boring, especially since she finished her house. So I guess it was time for her to star up once again. There are new girls at Camelot and more are expected before the grand opening.
Kalihi Kid
03-30-06, 13:15
To a certain extent the hostess bar business is seasonal, just like many other types of businesses. Business tends to pick up during football season as husbands have an excuse for frequenting these places. Having said that I prefer the "off-season" to go on the hunt since the hostesses have to work harder to make their money. As for mama's getting customers to buy girls drinks, you may notice that when a customer becomes enamoured by a particular girl and wants to impress her he tends to spend more. The girls take advantage of this tendency by asking their customer to buy other girls drinks. This helps spread the wealth around and guys invariably spend more than they would otherwise do so. Word to the wise, plan ahead, take only the amount in cash you want to spend each night, never use credit cards, resist the temptation to visit the ATM after you start drinking.
Africa and Noblesse are no longer around. They used to be on Kona/Hopaka Street and served as a Korean Nightclub/Host bar. I believe the precursor to both of those places was Carnegie.
As for mama getting you to buy drinks for the girls, it's kind of a power trip for them to show their workers they can get their customer to buy the girls drinks. It's the Korean female counterpart to the pissing contest.
I too, have noticed that clubs have been slow. When I first started bar hopping in 1990, the bars were packed every night and full of hot women every night. I think the slowdown started about 2002 when our economy turned and everyone started buying real estate. New homes took money out of the bars, but the old timers were still used to the previous eras spending habits and could not adjust to this change. 2001/2002 is also when the HPD/Immigration crackdown started at the bars. It took it's toll on Patty mama and she sold out to Miki back in 2004. She got tired of LC coming down hard on her as did INS. That's why she only allowed girls with green cards to work for her from @ 2002. There were some without green cards or visas, but their time at New Office was very short.
Homelife must have gotten boring, especially since she finished her house. So I guess it was time for her to star up once again. There are new girls at Camelot and more are expected before the grand opening.
My observation is that the KB scene will never be like it was in the 80s and 90s. KBs are a throw-back to the original Japanese hostess bars that the second generation Japanese-Americans brought back from overseas. The tradition was passed on to the baby-boomers so business in the bars was still good through the 80s. Beginning from the late 90s the next generation is not finding that hostess bars are their thing--or at least not on a regular basis like their predecessors. So I predict that business in the KBs will keep getting slower with each new generation unless they think of something different rather than ripping off the young guys and trying to hustle us old farts who are better at playing the game. The smart ones like June at Cheers know how to treat customers--its service and quality food. Gotta spend money to make money. Some of the other bars just don't get it. Perhaps they should get into dancing, for example, as a new direction.
Kalihi Kid
03-30-06, 16:01
My observation is that the KB scene will never be like it was in the 80s and 90s. . . Tastes may be changing but sex always sells. It has been observed many times in this thread that girls who work the bars do so as a last resort. The world economy is good. That means not only can they find other work but there are more sugar daddies around capable of supporting those who are willing to trade sex for security. The raw material for bars has always been immigrant women who end up in this country without other means of supporting themselves. We now have fewer military bases overseas. Those that still exist are in countries that are very prosperous as well. With the possible exception of China and Russia, women from other countries are not desperately trying to here in order to find a better life. Alas, the future of KB's is in doubt unless a new source of women can be found. I predict we may see some RB's (Russki Bars) in the not too distant future. It has already happened in Korea and Japan. But then that may not be a bad thing.
Iliketowatch
03-30-06, 18:18
Iliketowatch: What took you so long to notice? Just kidding. The new generation of KB-girl is Westernized. It's all about them. If they had to do what the previous generation did, they wouldn't work in the bars. You can still get a glimpse of the past in Kalihi or PC, just bring a paper bag and some dark glasses so you don't see what you're feeling. Ever had a toothless bj (joke). All joking aside, that's why I just go for the pay for play and not try to pursue the sex after-hours. You'll go broke just trying to find out if you can score. Some of us didn't buy your "attack on the 1st drink" approach to weed out the non-players, not because it not a good frugal strategy, but because the girl's now days have gotten knee magnetic implants and it's hard to pull the magnets apart. You gotta romance now, feed them shit, hold them gentle, caress their hair, gaze into their eyes, THEN ATTACK! Remember, know your enemy, or your predated tactics will only get you sex with the kitchen mama atop the kim chee. Just having fun! Stay safe.
I did get PMed a lot for my 1st drink advise, but everyone was polite in understanding that it was just my opinion and not because I was preaching.
Use what I post under your own discretion. I just hate seeing guys getting abused at the bars. Local guys are almost too nice at times. I chat with a lot of mongers at the bars and enjoy almost everyone as a bar friend. It's great enertainment and a release for me from the daily work grind. Hate to not see you guys around because some b**** emptied out your wallet playing on your feelings. Although the hunting seems to be better at the local nightclubs, I still enjoy the KB's for fun. I just don't go in with the expectations I once had when the bars were wilder, so those of you who are struggling, or are getting pounded by these women, you have to realize it's very different nowadays. The battle has changed, we are no longer in ditches with swords, the girls have heat seeking missles now, and they know where your heat is coming from. Don't go grocery shopping when you are hungry and don't going KB shopping when you are horny. LOL
Ahhh, but now you see alot of older guys and retirees that have money go to the bars and buy some of the nicer girls drinks without even touching them. And they are like regular customers, going there at least a couple times a week. Although this is good for the bar, its kinda messed for us mongers. For those girls, they would probably sit with their old customer who doesnt even touch them, rather than sit with one of us at one of the back tables for the same amount of money. And if you do get to sit at the table with one of these girls as soon as they see one of their old, rich customers sit at the bar, they'll go and sit with him and sometimes just forget about you. Thats probably the one thing I hate the most, sitting alone at the table waiting for the girl to come back and she never does.
Oysterogo,
It's hard for Lex to understand why guys go to SC's, bars, etc. Lex finds AMP's to make more sense. In an AMP both the girls and the customers pretty much understand what is supposed to happen. You're both in a room, the girl and the time are yours according to how much you pay. She's not going across the room to massage some other dude. And you're in private, not in an open space, even if it's a VIP lounge or whatever.
Unless some guys somehow enjoy the competition. But if you do, then why complain about it. Lex figures that in the long run you spend a lot more in the places you go than Lex does. Granted, many AMP workers are less than model quality, but even some of the older ones can be quite accomodating.
Just some of Lex's musings. Peace to you all and may you all get a piece.
Lex
Oysterogo, It's hard for Lex to understand why guys go to SC's, bars, etc. Lex finds AMP's to make more sense. Lex
You know, I am an AMP guy myself. But, every now and then, a bar is just more fun. There is nothing like cruising in a bar, checking out ALL the girls, and waiting for the perfect one.
In an AMP, you have to either partake of who mama chooses for you, or make a selection immediately. For whatever reasons, AMPs here do not like to have you pick from a selection, as in Rush Hour 2. If that were the case, the AMPs would be heaven defined! But in a K/VB, you get to see the pussy on display.
Member #2650
03-31-06, 14:03
You know, I am an AMP guy myself. But, every now and then, a bar is just more fun. There is nothing like cruising in a bar, checking out ALL the girls, and waiting for the perfect one.
In an AMP, you have to either partake of who mama chooses for you, or make a selection immediately. For whatever reasons, AMPs here do not like to have you pick from a selection, as in Rush Hour 2. If that were the case, the AMPs would be heaven defined! But in a K/VB, you get to see the pussy on display.
I'll tell you what's better than cruising in a bar; cruising the AMPS, checking out ALL the girls, and doing the perfect one. You know as well as I do that, most of the time, the mamas will bring in all the girls if you ask. It may not be Rush Hour 2/fishbowl style, but they will bring the girls in one at a time, and I love that shit. You can hit all of the AMPs and walk until you find the right ONE.
The K/VBs are just more inventory. Some of the inventory is flawed though(some girls have no intention of playing), and that is a big problem when you are trying to exchange $ for "companionship". If you don't close the deal with these girls, you are just another sucka supporting her lifestyle. I don't care how much you two "clicked". Most times in a bar (a bar with quality inventory anyway) you will not complete the deal on your first sitting even if you are the money man of the night. Sometimes you might need to go 3-4 times before you get any, and even then you are probably not sure if you will.
You can get a lot closer to a girl figuratively and literally by being intimate and talking than just buying her tea for chit chat with no intimacy. Don't get me wrong, I think KBs can be a good place for extra inventory, but it's the girls with no intention of playing that get my goat. If I wanted that type of challenge, it's better to just go to a sports bar don't you think?
2650
Don't get me wrong. I prefer AMPs. You're right about the floor show Mama can provide. But not all Mamas will do that. Some will only run two or three by you and say "That's all." Plus, going from AMP to AMP can get time consuming. I've done that plenty too. I don't doubt that ultimately you have better selection that way. But, it's not as fun as having a sexy asian chick all dolled up sitting on your dick with the g-string aside in the middle of a crowded bar. The girls in K/VBs are much prettier too.
Still an AMP guy though. Better "bang" for the buck.
Oysterogo,
It's hard for Lex to understand why guys go to SC's, bars, etc. Lex finds AMP's to make more sense. In an AMP both the girls and the customers pretty much understand what is supposed to happen. You're both in a room, the girl and the time are yours according to how much you pay. She's not going across the room to massage some other dude. And you're in private, not in an open space, even if it's a VIP lounge or whatever.
Unless some guys somehow enjoy the competition. But if you do, then why complain about it. Lex figures that in the long run you spend a lot more in the places you go than Lex does. Granted, many AMP workers are less than model quality, but even some of the older ones can be quite accomodating.
Just some of Lex's musings. Peace to you all and may you all get a piece.
LexI enjoy the amp scene and the bar scene, but for different reasons. I go to the bar to drink and mess with the girls. I dont go into a bar with the intention of banging a girl. If I sit with one of them then I'll see how far I can get and how much she will do at the table. Sometimes you find a "friendly girl", sometimes you find a money hungry b*tch. Its all part of the bar scene. But I still enjoy it. I maybe be messed up, but I get a thrill from playing with a girl at a table with the chance of someone seeing, especially if she is going down on me and I'm watching to see if anyone comes by. It maybe nerve-wrecking, but it feels damn good.
I also enjoy going to the amps and getting all the standard services and even some GFE. Yes at the amps you know what you are getting and the amount of money you are going to spend for the hour in the room. But to me its a different type of excitement as compared to messing around in a bar. But I still enjoy going there and banging a girl. In an amp you'll also get girls with great service and girls with crappy, rushed service. And reading the forums, I dont think anyone here has always had a memorable time in an amp, unless you always see your ATF. Theres alot of complaining about the bars, but there are also alot of complaining about the amps. And the quality or girls at the amps aren't as great as before either.
So for me, even if I dont get the "memorable service" all the time at either, I still enjoy going to both amps and bars.
Was drinking at Club Flamingo in Kalihi and it seems that a new mama is going to take over starting today. I overheard some guys saying that the old mama from Azalea is taking over. So I'm guessing that there will be a change in girls at this bar in the next week or so. Hopefully the new mama keeps some of the younger girls. The girls that used to work at Azalea, now Vegas II, all have alot of mileage even though some used to give good service.
I enjoy the amp scene and the bar scene, but for different reasons. I go to the bar to drink and mess with the girls. I dont go into a bar with the intention of banging a girl. If I sit with one of them then I'll see how far I can get and how much she will do at the table. Sometimes you find a "friendly girl", sometimes you find a money hungry b*tch. Its all part of the bar scene. But I still enjoy it. I maybe be messed up, but I get a thrill from playing with a girl at a table with the chance of someone seeing, especially if she is going down on me and I'm watching to see if anyone comes by. It maybe nerve-wrecking, but it feels damn good.
I also enjoy going to the amps and getting all the standard services and even some GFE. Yes at the amps you know what you are getting and the amount of money you are going to spend for the hour in the room. But to me its a different type of excitement as compared to messing around in a bar. But like a bar I still enjoy going there and banging a girl. In an amp you'll also get girls with great service and girls with crappy, rushed service. And reading the forums, I dont think anyone here has always had a memorable time in an amp, unless you always see your ATF. Theres alot of complaining about the bars, but there are also alot of complaining about the amps. And the quality or girls at the amps aren't as great as before either.
So for me, even if I dont get the "memorable service" all the time at either, I still enjoy going to both amps and bars.I totally agree, at KB's it is the thrill of the hunt that gets me going. AMPs there is no hunting involved. It is like shooting fish in the barrel
Tastes may be changing but sex always sells. It has been observed many times in this thread that girls who work the bars do so as a last resort. The world economy is good. That means not only can they find other work but there are more sugar daddies around capable of supporting those who are willing to trade sex for security. The raw material for bars has always been immigrant women who end up in this country without other means of supporting themselves. We now have fewer military bases overseas. Those that still exist are in countries that are very prosperous as well. With the possible exception of China and Russia, women from other countries are not desperately trying to here in order to find a better life. Alas, the future of KB's is in doubt unless a new source of women can be found. I predict we may see some RB's (Russki Bars) in the not too distant future. It has already happened in Korea and Japan. But then that may not be a bad thing.
Better get me a copy of Russian for Dummies.
Oysterogo,
Thanks for your civilized explaination of why you go to bars as well as amp's. You are right in what you say. I've spent thousands of dollars in AMP's and certainly not all of it has yielded stellar results.
I think I understand now why at least you and probably many others go to bars.
Lex
Member #2650
04-03-06, 20:30
I totally agree, at KB's it is the thrill of the hunt that gets me going. AMPs there is no hunting involved. It is like shooting fish in the barrel
What hunt are you talking about? Is it where you buy the girls drinks upon drinks, and as soon as your money is gone, they go with the baller with the Rolex? Or is it where you are balling, and she says, "I’ll be right back, that's my regular customer..."? Or is it when you spend your paycheck, pop the bubbly, and she freaks out that you want to nail her in the room, and tells you you'll do it when you go out? What about the Chanel or Gucci she asks you for; is that the hunt? Any girl that will do you from the bars will do other customers no matter how special you think the bond is between the two of you, and no matter if she says she is only going to do you. It's a business for them, and you are the consumer just as in the AMPs. It's just that in the AMPs you don't get screwed out of your screw, and there aren't as many mind games. If it is truly the "hunt" you say you are interested in, why don't you go to a night club or sports bar, or even the mall or park where you are on somewhat equal footing with your prey? KBs and VBs are simulated hunts as the prey will go to the feeding hole to get shot just as the fish in the barrel as opposed to the wild game that will not. They have heard it all before, and they have said it all before.
Also, I don’t buy the KB girls are prettier argument as there are serious gems in that barrel. Also, how many of the really hot ones in the bars will let you do them in the booths? I am willing to venture a guess that it's not as many as the number of hot ones in the AMPs who give great service, but maybe that's just me. I am not trying to convince anyone as to the joys of AMPs as there will be less for me, but I feel strongly about AMPs (we have it much better than most states), and I get riled up when people knock them.
2650
Member #2650
04-03-06, 20:46
I've spent thousands of dollars in AMP's and certainly not all of it has yielded stellar results.
I think I understand now why at least you and probably many others go to bars.
Lex
Lex, which yielded more stellar results dollar for dollar? Also, which yielded the the more sub par results. For me it's no contest. Even bad sex is better than no sex.
2650
Anonymous808
04-04-06, 05:56
Dollar for dollar, almost everyone will say AMP's are better if sex is your only goal. Going to bars is about finding out who will play. The thrill of the hunt refers to the difference between going to an AMP, and being able to have sex with anyone you chose, versus going to a bar and not being able to.
Dollar for dollar, almost everyone will say AMP's are better if sex is your only goal. Going to bars is about finding out who will play. The thrill of the hunt refers to the difference between going to an AMP, and being able to have sex with anyone you chose, versus going to a bar and not being able to.
Ahh yes the universal reality--different strokes for different folks. Next subject.
The thrill of the hunt refers to the difference between going to an AMP, and being able to have sex with anyone you chose, versus going to a bar and not being able to.But, the hunt is rigged, and I guess you guys know that right? I think Lex + 2650 agrees that: It's no longer a case of comparing AMP to KB; KB needs to be compared with typical night clubs/bars in Honolulu.
I'm not accusing any of the members her of this stereotype, but here goes: I pass by the KB on Kapiolani all the time. Do you know who I typically see there? Old Japanese men from WWII who made a shitload of money on real estate, who are too old and too introverted to attract young women on their own. So, they have to resort to this rigged "game" for conversation and companionship because their wife is too old or passed away. Why should these girls give up anything for you when they can have unlimited amounts of these "suckers" who all they want are companionship?
Simply put, because of the observation above, KB are a total waste of time! (I'm gonna get flamed for sure, but go ahead, I'm speaking the truth) Sure, you can give me annecdoctal stories of how you hooked up with these KB girls, but these are isolated incidences!! For example, I could give you stories up and down about how me or someone I know hooked up at clubs/bars, too.
For new-comers who want to try to do the KB scene, my general advice to you is: DON'T DO IT!
Here is the computerish code to determine your course of action:
If (you are horny)
go the AMP;
else // you are seeking companionship and "thrill of the hunt"
if (you are decent-looking)
if (you are not too old)
hit the clubs;
else
hit the bars;
else // you are old Japanese, wealthy 3rd generation sugar farmer
go to KB;
Iliketowatch
04-04-06, 18:26
We who frequent the KB's all know we have a screw loose. Spending money for the hunt is really not good common sense, but I think most of us are tired of the straight slam, blam thank you mame, in the Amps. We have a fetish for sex in public (or the booths) . . . wish the KB's had a glass elevator, we like messing with the girls minds (Korean water torture), and we want to break the wild stallion that thinks she can never be mounted. It's a power trip and the Amps don't provide it. I know it's sick to spend money for possibly nothing, but it a temporary GFE without putting up with a real girlfriend.
Off this subject. Went to Casino. Anyone knows who the young, round cheek, very short skirt, gal is? I know she's been there for a while. She always wears very reveaaling outfits. Does she play? Sure looks like she does. Not Bebe or Miki.
Kalihi Kid
04-04-06, 20:25
. . .
Off this subject. Went to Casino. Anyone knows who the young, round cheek, very short skirt, gal is? I know she's been there for a while. She always wears very reveaaling outfits. Does she play? Sure looks like she does. Not Bebe or Miki.Actually, thank you for bringing us back to the subject.
Evilchimpy
04-04-06, 21:08
Hi,
Just to add my opinion. I think it is very difficult to get what you want at a Korean bar. There was only one time that I have gotten play for free at a Korean Bar without buying anyone a drink or going to the Karaoke Room. This was at Vegas II. But she was kind of old and ugly and I didn't want any piece of it even though I was pretty drunk at the time. Everyone has their own preferences, and for me it is just easier to go to an AMP. I think a lot of people here on this board gets tired of their wife or girlfriend at times and want something new but not permanent or time consuming. I'm sure a lot of people here have had two or more girlfriends at one time at some point in their lives. But for me since, I am not twentysomething anymore and have to work full time, it is a lot more convientent to go to an AMP. To sum it up, if sex were as easy at an Korean Bar as an AMP, then I would probably go to more Korean Bars.
VIP,
You won't get flamed for your opinion from this group, I think everyone is pretty much civilized here. A local club or nightspot thread will appear if there is enough interest but even the guys that go to these places read this forum and go to the KB's too. When members vent and argue about the girls and the scene, I think it's just to get it out of their system. They know what they're up against, although I saw a few real loser customers who fall head over heals for a girl and always get burned. Do we really want a normal relationship in life? I bet not. The KB's give us a chance to have a false, sexual-type relationship without the responsibilty of a real girlfriend. Meeting the family, go to family outings, being trapped into one girl, is not what I want. We only want the fun part of a girlfriend and not the drama, henpeck side. Although with a Korean, drama is a given. I once hear a customer tell a bar girl who really liked him, I don't want to get involved with a girl who works in a bar, and I wouldn't get involved with a girl who wants to hook up with a guy who goes to bar. You want the nine-course meal but I'm only here for the meat.
We who frequent the KB's all know we have a screw loose. Spending money for the hunt is really not good common sense, but I think most of us are tired of the straight slam, blam thank you mame, in the Amps. We have a fetish for sex in public (or the booths) . . . wish the KB's had a glass elevator, we like messing with the girls minds (Korean water torture), and we want to break the wild stallion that thinks she can never be mounted. It's a power trip and the Amps don't provide it. I know it's sick to spend money for possibly nothing, but it a temporary GFE without putting up with a real girlfriend.
Off this subject. Went to Casino. Anyone knows who the young, round cheek, very short skirt, gal is? I know she's been there for a while. She always wears very reveaaling outfits. Does she play? Sure looks like she does. Not Bebe or Miki.
I think you're talking about Jae. There's grabbing in the booths and that's about it.
Turboman808
04-05-06, 16:00
VIP,
You won't get flamed for your opinion from this group, I think everyone is pretty much civilized here. A local club or nightspot thread will appear if there is enough interest but even the guys that go to these places read this forum and go to the KB's too. When members vent and argue about the girls and the scene, I think it's just to get it out of their system. They know what they're up against, although I saw a few real loser customers who fall head over heals for a girl and always get burned. Do we really want a normal relationship in life? I bet not. The KB's give us a chance to have a false, sexual-type relationship without the responsibilty of a real girlfriend. Meeting the family, go to family outings, being trapped into one girl, is not what I want. We only want the fun part of a girlfriend and not the drama, henpeck side. Although with a Korean, drama is a given. I once hear a customer tell a bar girl who really liked him, I don't want to get involved with a girl who works in a bar, and I wouldn't get involved with a girl who wants to hook up with a guy who goes to bar. You want the nine-course meal but I'm only here for the meat.I can't believe I'm saying this, I must be getting old. There are actual times when I don't feel like banging, and don't wanna grab a brew with my friends because they can be irritating. I like to go to KBs, just to sit with a woman and chat. We put our arms around each other, fine. I buy her one or two drinks, she buys me my beer, fine. I go home.
Of course, there are other times when I feel like "hunting" too, but I've been burned enough to stay away from KBs if I'm in that macho mood.
Men Are Dogs
04-05-06, 16:03
Anyone check out LaVien Rose next to Napa V. I peek in everytime I past by but feel very uncomfortable with my shorts and tee. Seems high-class or wanna bee high-class. Is this the typical table charge JB? Do they only cater to the rich J-tourist?
Jack Mehoff
04-05-06, 18:52
VIP,
You won't get flamed for your opinion from this group, I think everyone is pretty much civilized here. A local club or nightspot thread will appear if there is enough interest but even the guys that go to these places read this forum and go to the KB's too. When members vent and argue about the girls and the scene, I think it's just to get it out of their system. They know what they're up against, although I saw a few real loser customers who fall head over heals for a girl and always get burned. Do we really want a normal relationship in life? I bet not. The KB's give us a chance to have a false, sexual-type relationship without the responsibilty of a real girlfriend. Meeting the family, go to family outings, being trapped into one girl, is not what I want. We only want the fun part of a girlfriend and not the drama, henpeck side. Although with a Korean, drama is a given. I once hear a customer tell a bar girl who really liked him, I don't want to get involved with a girl who works in a bar, and I wouldn't get involved with a girl who wants to hook up with a guy who goes to bar. You want the nine-course meal but I'm only here for the meat.
OUCH, I have been burned a few times and have fallen for a couple of vbgs. I think mostly everyone,has one time or another been burned or fallen for one of these goldiggers. But no need to call us losers, I prefer dumbasses. JM
Sorry Jack, not trying to call out anyone, just venting and labeling that one guy in every bar that is just an a**h*** irritant. Blowing cash and champagne last it's going out of season, trying to buy popularity. I've had enough girls ask me why I don't spend on them like he does. Stay cool.
I think you're talking about Jae. There's grabbing in the booths and that's about it.Yea Jae does wear some short skirts and looks really hot. She also does the karaoke routine, but its probably not worth it since she asks $$$ and the mama there usually will call the girls out if they spend too much time in the room.
I really dont see why we are still comparing KBs with Amps. I mean, I enjoy both, but not for the same reasons. Sure I got burned at the KBs or VBs before, but I still enjoy playing with the girls in the booths. Its up to you all if you think I'm a "loser", but its still my money I'm using to do something I enjoy.
And not all girls will only hang with the rich, old japanese guys. For example the girl, Jae, mentioned below. She has a few old oriental men as customers. One of them actually falls asleep while sitting with her on occasion, thats how old he is. But I still had the opportunity to sit with her at a booth and got some play. I also did the karaoke room routine with her where she got really "friendly". Not as cost efficient as the Amps, but for me it did make my night.
So whats the big deal whether I monger at the KBs or Amps. I will monger at the place that I want to depending on what I want. If I want to play with some Korean chick, I go to the KBs. If I want to just bang a pretty girl I go to an Amp. Whats the big deal in that?
Anyone check out LaVien Rose next to Napa V. I peek in everytime I past by but feel very uncomfortable with my shorts and tee. Seems high-class or wanna bee high-class. Is this the typical table charge JB? Do they only cater to the rich J-tourist?This place can get pretty costly. I'm sure you have heard of how J-Bars are more expensive on the average than KBs. I know typically one can spend anywhere between $200/per hour and $1000/per hour per person. Don't expect to get any play w/o spending some big bucks. Clothing is not an issue, but be prepared to spend money. Before you sit at the booths, you should have one drink at the bar and speak to the bartender (who is often the manager) and ask about charges. Unlike KBs, you don't have the option to pay by the round. Once you make how much you can spend clear, then you can decide whether to stay or not.
If it is truly the "hunt" you say you are interested in, why don't you go to a night club or sports bar, or even the mall or park where you are on somewhat equal footing with your prey? KBs and VBs are simulated hunts as the prey will go to the feeding hole to get shot just as the fish in the barrel as opposed to the wild game that will not. They have heard it all before, and they have said it all before.
2650
they can't go to the night club or bars cuz they are passed that age or got no game...
Anyone check out LaVien Rose next to Napa V. I peek in everytime I past by but feel very uncomfortable with my shorts and tee. Seems high-class or wanna bee high-class. Is this the typical table charge JB? Do they only cater to the rich J-tourist?
I was just there with some friends from Japan. First time there.
It was basically $100 per person for 90 minutes, this included all drinks for us and the gals that sat with us. The gals (and us) were doing tequila shots, and us guys had our customary beer chasers.
Not much action since everything is out in the open, unless you head for the karaoke rooms. Not sure how much that will cost you.
Some of the gals are attractive, around mid- to late-twenties. Most say they are from Japan, but they sure look local. I sat with a kinda cute petite gal (sorry, the name slips me) who was wearing a short, short, short skirt. No matter how much pulling down she did to cover up her thong, she was short in height so sitting deep into the couch would hike her skirt up. I eventually told her to stop pulling down on her skirt and just let us enjoy the view, and she obliged.
So how is Napa nowadays? I haven't been there in a long while.
Stay safe...
PD
I was just there with some friends from Japan. First time there.
It was basically $100 per person for 90 minutes, this included all drinks for us and the gals that sat with us. The gals (and us) were doing tequila shots, and us guys had our customary beer chasers.
Not much action since everything is out in the open, unless you head for the karaoke rooms. Not sure how much that will cost you.
Some of the gals are attractive, around mid- to late-twenties. Most say they are from Japan, but they sure look local. I sat with a kinda cute petite gal (sorry, the name slips me) who was wearing a short, short, short skirt. No matter how much pulling down she did to cover up her thong, she was short in height so sitting deep into the couch would hike her skirt up. I eventually told her to stop pulling down on her skirt and just let us enjoy the view, and she obliged.
So how is Napa nowadays? I haven't been there in a long while.
Stay safe...
PDNapa is completely DEAD!
Kalihi Kid
04-06-06, 16:30
. . . So whats the big deal whether I monger at the KBs or Amps. I will monger at the place that I want to depending on what I want. If I want to play with some Korean chick, I go to the KBs. If I want to just bang a pretty girl I go to an Amp. Whats the big deal in that?OK, enough talk about why we do the stupid things we do. Whether you get your rocks off in a bar or an AMP is a personal preference. If you want a sure thing, you go to an AMP. If you feel up for a challenge and have some bucks to spend go to a VB or KB. I think most appreciate the recent discussion about "Jae" and others. Let's get back to sharing field intelligence.
Thanks all.
Anyone check out LaVien Rose next to Napa V. I peek in everytime I past by but feel very uncomfortable with my shorts and tee. Seems high-class or wanna bee high-class. Is this the typical table charge JB? Do they only cater to the rich J-tourist?The place gets pricey. Yeah the girls are hot, but damn! All I can say is that my wallet hurts more than my head the next morning.
Jack Mehoff
04-06-06, 18:50
Sorry Jack, not trying to call out anyone, just venting and labeling that one guy in every bar that is just an a**h*** irritant. Blowing cash and champagne last it's going out of season, trying to buy popularity. I've had enough girls ask me why I don't spend on them like he does. Stay cool.
Its cool, when I blow my dough to go to the champagne room; its because I'm horny and stupid. I always regret going to the room and spending that kind of money. I never would do it to buy popularity. Take care JM
Hiroslammer
04-08-06, 05:30
Does anyone know of a girl name Romie that works out at New Casino? If so, does she play like the other girls mentioned from there? Bought her a few drinks the two times I've sat with her, not sure how deep I want to venture.
Does anyone know of a girl name Romie that works out at New Casino? If so, does she play like the other girls mentioned from there? Bought her a few drinks the two times I've sat with her, not sure how deep I want to venture.
There is no play from Romi.
There is no play from Romi.IMHO most of the girls at New Casino don't play unless it is for at least $$$. They are more eye candy and teases. If you want to have more play move farther away from downtown to Kalihi area.
Iliketowatch
04-09-06, 23:29
There is no play from Romi.Romi doesn't play.
Or she didn't when my friend sat with her.
Anyone ever go to Blue Cafe on King St. Heard Ashley from Maya's took over the joint. It used to be a Karaoke bar before. Is it a host bar now? Over heard some Koreans guys saying the Maya's girls go there on their days off. Wonder if it's feasible to pick one up there?
Yoshitsune
04-09-06, 23:38
Romi, She's a long time veteran at Casino. She will play, but not worth your money. Too expensive.
Does anyone know of a girl name Romie that works out at New Casino? If so, does she play like the other girls mentioned from there? Bought her a few drinks the two times I've sat with her, not sure how deep I want to venture.
Romi doesn't play.
Or she didn't when my friend sat with her.
Anyone ever go to Blue Cafe on King St. Heard Ashley from Maya's took over the joint. It used to be a Karaoke bar before. Is it a host bar now? Over heard some Koreans guys saying the Maya's girls go there on their days off. Wonder if it's feasible to pick one up there?
Lots of the bar girls hang out at Cafe Blue on days off or when they don't feel like going to work. It's a regular bar/hang out place, but this time its packed with youngish Korean girls and guys.
I normally don't go to KB's and prefer AMP's or "shooting fish in a barrel" as another poster compared it to. Looked into London Hub because of the reports. Did not see anyone I would be interested in. All old and not attractive. Went to Refresh and looked in, was about to leave when Tiffany called me back and said "I get young girl for you". Against my better judgement, I went in and ended up buying her and the girl she brought to the table a drink. Very pushy and I was not interested in the girl she brought. Walked out after one drink with $45 less, for nothing. Went to New Casino, and the joint was jumping. Lots of cuties all around, many not busy. Settled in with a young cutie and ended up buying her 7-8 drinks over and hour and a half. Got as far as getting my hand in her panties, but not insertion. When I asked her if she did anything esle, she did not give me an answer, and acted surprized I asked. When I asked about a back room, she said $300 minimum for champagne, up to $1,000. When I asked her what I get for than, again no direct answer. I guess I had fun fishing for $200, but next time I'll go back to shooting fish in a barrel.
I normally don't go to KB's and prefer AMP's or "shooting fish in a barrel" as another poster compared it to. Looked into London Hub because of the reports. Did not see anyone I would be interested in. All old and not attractive. Went to Refresh and looked in, was about to leave when Tiffany called me back and said "I get young girl for you". Against my better judgement, I went in and ended up buying her and the girl she brought to the table a drink. Very pushy and I was not interested in the girl she brought. Walked out after one drink with $45 less, for nothing. Went to New Casino, and the joint was jumping. Lots of cuties all around, many not busy. Settled in with a young cutie and ended up buying her 7-8 drinks over and hour and a half. Got as far as getting my hand in her panties, but not insertion. When I asked her if she did anything esle, she did not give me an answer, and acted surprized I asked. When I asked about a back room, she said $300 minimum for champagne, up to $1,000. When I asked her what I get for than, again no direct answer. I guess I had fun fishing for $200, but next time I'll go back to shooting fish in a barrel.
What was the girls name at Casino?
Iliketowatch
04-14-06, 15:44
Was drinking at D'Amour the other night. Overheard mama saying she was taking over Casino again. Casino will close on thursday 4/20. There will renovate Casino and break the wall down to the next door space and make a bigger space. D'Amour will close at end of month 4/30 and Casino mama will move there and remodel old D'amour and open approx. 2 weeks later. The girls will stay with their respective mamas. So Casino and D'Amour will be down for a while. Guess the other bars will be packed.
Was drinking at D'Amour the other night. Overheard mama saying she was taking over Casino again. Casino will close on thursday 4/20. There will renovate Casino and break the wall down to the next door space and make a bigger space. D'Amour will close at end of month 4/30 and Casino mama will move there and remodel old D'amour and open approx. 2 weeks later. The girls will stay with their respective mamas. So Casino and D'Amour will be down for a while. Guess the other bars will be packed.
You are correct. Jie told me about that in January.
You are correct. Jie told me about that in January.I also heard that, hope that means there will be more room to play!
Was drinking at D'Amour the other night. Overheard mama saying she was taking over Casino again. Casino will close on thursday 4/20. There will renovate Casino and break the wall down to the next door space and make a bigger space. D'Amour will close at end of month 4/30 and Casino mama will move there and remodel old D'amour and open approx. 2 weeks later. The girls will stay with their respective mamas. So Casino and D'Amour will be down for a while. Guess the other bars will be packed.
I've been to Casino recently, and as others posted, lots of cuties, but play is questionable.
How's the talent at D'Amour now a days? Any cuties there? Play? Last I went, which is a while back (3 or 4 months), the gals wern't that great looking and were in their 30's at best.
I've been to Casino recently, and as others posted, lots of cuties, but play is questionable.
How's the talent at D'Amour now a days? Any cuties there? Play? Last I went, which is a while back (3 or 4 months), the gals wern't that great looking and were in their 30's at best.
The only talent I have seen at D'amour has to be the bartendress. She's in her early 20s and pretty hot.
Went to Casino on Sat. Talked with a fellow customer on the bar (maybe it was one of you guys). Got a different story about Casino. Seems like the old Casino mama is retaking over Casino on 4/20. The current Casino mama purchased Safari and the space in between the 2 bars (I think it was a game room before it got busted). Casino will close for renovations on 4/20 and reopen on 5/1. Safari (don't know new name yet) + the middle space will open in about a month from 4/20 after the wall is knocked down and renovations made. Seems like all the Casino girls will follow mama to the new joint. Lot of girls going on vacation while it's closed. Don't know where the girls are coming from for the "New" New Casino or whatever it will be called. Didn't hear anything about D'Amour closing.
It was interesting that the girls working in the Kalihi bars got $10 of each drink, but the girls working at the Kapiolani bars got to keep $15. When I mentioned the difference to the girls, they said that they got more because they were younger and prettier. Makes sense to me. I guess there's no equal opportunity laws that apply to Korean Bars.
It was interesting that the girls working in the Kalihi bars got $10 of each drink, but the girls working at the Kapiolani bars got to keep $15. When I mentioned the difference to the girls, they said that they got more because they were younger and prettier. Makes sense to me. I guess there's no equal opportunity laws that apply to Korean Bars.Hmmm, I thought all of the bars were about the same commission wise. The girls in the Pearl City area bars get $15 outta the $20. One thing I dont see anymore is that the girls used to get the whole $20 if it was their first drink of the night (good luck drink).
It was interesting that the girls working in the Kalihi bars got $10 of each drink, but the girls working at the Kapiolani bars got to keep $15. When I mentioned the difference to the girls, they said that they got more because they were younger and prettier. Makes sense to me. I guess there's no equal opportunity laws that apply to Korean Bars.
Where did you hear that? I think it is still the same 70/30 split on drinks, not sure about bottles. Wine and champagne used to be a 50/50 split, but I think some Kapiolani bars are doing 60/40 split in favor of the girl.
Went to Casino on Sat. Talked with a fellow customer on the bar (maybe it was one of you guys). Got a different story about Casino. Seems like the old Casino mama is retaking over Casino on 4/20. The current Casino mama purchased Safari and the space in between the 2 bars (I think it was a game room before it got busted). Casino will close for renovations on 4/20 and reopen on 5/1. Safari (don't know new name yet) + the middle space will open in about a month from 4/20 after the wall is knocked down and renovations made. Seems like all the Casino girls will follow mama to the new joint. Lot of girls going on vacation while it's closed. Don't know where the girls are coming from for the "New" New Casino or whatever it will be called. Didn't hear anything about D'Amour closing.
What Jie told me was she bought D'amour and was going to renovate both. She was going to take Casino back and Mimi would run the new bar. However, this was back in January and the changeover was supposed to happen in April.
When I bought the girls drinks at Refresh, the waitress collected the $20 for the drink and when she came back with the drink, she also slipped $10 to the girl. At Casino the girls collected the $20 themselves and handed $5 to whoever went to get the drinks keeping $15. Good for them. Getting $5 for a glass of water is enough profit for the bar.
When I bought the girls drinks at Refresh, the waitress collected the $20 for the drink and when she came back with the drink, she also slipped $10 to the girl. At Casino the girls collected the $20 themselves and handed $5 to whoever went to get the drinks keeping $15. Good for them. Getting $5 for a glass of water is enough profit for the bar.50/50 split on the nekohana? Why would a girl want to work there?
Anonymous808
04-17-06, 06:29
When I bought the girls drinks at Refresh, the waitress collected the $20 for the drink and when she came back with the drink, she also slipped $10 to the girl. At Casino the girls collected the $20 themselves and handed $5 to whoever went to get the drinks keeping $15. Good for them. Getting $5 for a glass of water is enough profit for the bar.Rascal,
Did you actually ask the girl how much she got or are you just assuming because you only saw $10. Just wondering because i used to go there and sit with a girl, and I know for a fact that she got $15 a drink.
Regarding the breakdown on drinks...I have to disagree -
I was at Cheers Station tonight and bought a fav a few drinks while at the bar - she pocketed $15 on each.
Nicole was bartendering and I bought her one, $15 to her too.
I thought it was a 75/25 all over.
The split varies from bar to bar. I've seen girls at Camelot make $17 off a nekohana, while most other bars I've been to the girls make $14 or $15 off a nekohana.
The split varies from bar to bar. I've seen girls at Camelot make $17 off a nekohana, while most other bars I've been to the girls make $14 or $15 off a nekohana.
girls will make $14 or $15 off the drink... if you see them make $17, then that is their "good luck" drink. they get a special rate for their first drink of the night...
I did not ask the girls at Refresh how much they made on each drink. We were sitting with three girls and each time we bought them a drink, they were handed $10, so I assumed that's what they got. Girls at Casino told us they made $15.
Pinkcadillac
04-24-06, 15:26
Did the KB routine this past weekend and ran into an old flame. We had a fling for several months a couple of years ago then went our separate ways for no specific reason. While we have little in common we both agreed the sex was great. She fulfilled many of my wildest fantasies and I helped her out financially while it lasted. She confided in me that she has had several conventional relationships in the past few years, each lasting several months. She says she looks back and feels she would have been better off just doing it for money rather than hoping for romance. She seems to realize that the chances of her finding someone for the long term is virtually nil at this point in her life. Cut to the chase. After a few drinks she told me that she is thinking about turning pro and has always had a fantasy about having multiple partners during a session as a way of announcing her coming out. She doesn’t do massage and is too proud to walk the streets or openly solicit at her workplace. She just wants to service a couple of guys each month and be paid for it. Although we had a couple of drinks, she wasn’t drunk. She has hinted about doing this before so I don’t think she was just making small talk. As I said before the sex was good and she has very few hang-ups when it comes to sex. I plan to go back and see if she is serious about going pro soon. If she agrees, are there any of you mongers out there who would like to assist in her coming out? If so, send PM. I will only consider senior and regular members with over 50 reports.
Where did you hear that? I think it is still the same 70/30 split on drinks, not sure about bottles. Wine and champagne used to be a 50/50 split, but I think some Kapiolani bars are doing 60/40 split in favor of the girl.My friend was married to a Korean bar girl. He told me nekohana was 14/6 14 for the girl and 50/50 for wine or champange.
At London Hub again but this time with Sunny. That smokers voice of hers is unique. Anyway, looked at her then the room. Got in, got nekked and she sang karaoke on my mic. Better than all the girls there so far. 10 minutes later mish, doggie, cowgirl, rev-cowgirl and mish for the BBFSTCIP. Tight but not Kyong tight.
This review was sponsered my by Uncle Ben.
At London Hub again but this time with Sunny. That smokers voice of hers is unique. Anyway, looked at her then the room. Got in, got nekked and she sang karaoke on my mic. Better than all the girls there so far. 10 minutes later mish, doggie, cowgirl, rev-cowgirl and mish for the BBFSTCIP. Tight but not Kyong tight.
This review was sponsered my by Uncle Ben.
When did you see her? I've gone by and she's never there. If she came back to work on a regular basis, I'd see her for sure.
Iliketowatch
05-01-06, 14:58
Did the KB scene yesterday. Sat with a young guy (guess early 20's) at the bar at Niagara. Poor guy, he said he and his friends spend a lot of money at Camelot on Saturday and was promised more but was ditched at the end of the night. For all you newbies out there remember one thing, and only one thing: the girl's JOB is to make money by making you buy them drinks. That's there job! It's not to go home with you after work. If your job is to get laid/action/play, theirs is to make money. When the girl says, all you guys think about is sex. It's the same as us guys saying to the girls, all you girls think about is money. That's your purpose, that's their purpose. Anything else is a crap-shoot. They have no interest in pleasing you just for the hell of it. Use your Jackson's wisely. I know he told me the AMP scene is too mechanical, but KB scene is what it is, so don't get misled by one person's story of a score, pay attention at the other 999 guy's story of a con. Lots of LE on Piikoi, stay safe mongers.
Did the KB scene yesterday. Sat with a young guy (guess early 20's) at the bar at Niagara. Poor guy, he said he and his friends spend a lot of money at Camelot on Saturday and was promised more but was ditched at the end of the night. For all you newbies out there remember one thing, and only one thing: the girl's JOB is to make money by making you buy them drinks. That's there job! It's not to go home with you after work. If your job is to get laid/action/play, theirs is to make money. When the girl says, all you guys think about is sex. It's the same as us guys saying to the girls, all you girls think about is money. That's your purpose, that's their purpose. Anything else is a crap-shoot. They have no interest in pleasing you just for the hell of it. Use your Jackson's wisely. I know he told me the AMP scene is too mechanical, but KB scene is what it is, so don't get misled by one person's story of a score, pay attention at the other 999 guy's story of a con. Lots of LE on Piikoi, stay safe mongers.If these guys think they're going get some action they got another thing coming. You gotta be Daddy Warbucks and blow a big wad of money for that kind of action. I know a few of those kind of guys with buccu bucks and have them bar girls as side dishes. I guess they are the bar girl's Sugar Daddys.
Turboman808
05-02-06, 20:10
At London Hub again but this time with Sunny. That smokers voice of hers is unique. Anyway, looked at her then the room. Got in, got nekked and she sang karaoke on my mic. Better than all the girls there so far. 10 minutes later mish, doggie, cowgirl, rev-cowgirl and mish for the BBFSTCIP. Tight but not Kyong tight.
This review was sponsered my by Uncle Ben.No offense to anyone, but I've been in LH and sat with Kyong; she was the "best" looking in the club, but that's not saying much. I guess I don't get worked up over paying $.0 for being with an old woman and going BBFS and risking getting STD at minimum, if not HIV at worst.
Again, no offense to anyone.
Jack Mehoff
05-08-06, 06:49
Went this past friday ,was planning on getting hj from Wendy. Sat at the bar and ordered my drink. Noticed a lady with nice size titties next to me. Went to play video games and she later came by and started talking to me. Introduced herself as the "infamous" Kyoung that everyone keeps talking about. Told me that Wendy has been coming to work for awhile. Wanted me to sing karaoke,but told her I had to do it in the backroom. So we head to the room and I give her $. Takes off her clothes and tells me to take off mine. Immediately starts bj, after awhile came in her mouth.Thought she was going to get pissed,but was a real trooper and just took it all in and spit it out without complaining later. She asked me for a drink,so bought her one and made small talk for a bit. Found out that she lives in Aiea and was previously working at Red Carnation before LH. Told me next time we could stay in the room longer. total damage 2 drinks and $ for room.
Went this past friday ,was planning on getting hj from Wendy. Sat at the bar and ordered my drink. Noticed a lady with nice size titties next to me. Went to play video games and she later came by and started talking to me. Introduced herself as the "infamous" Kyoung that everyone keeps talking about. Told me that Wendy has been coming to work for awhile. Wanted me to sing karaoke,but told her I had to do it in the backroom. So we head to the room and I give her $. Takes off her clothes and tells me to take off mine. Immediately starts bj, after awhile came in her mouth.Thought she was going to get pissed,but was a real trooper and just took it all in and spit it out without complaining later. She asked me for a drink,so bought her one and made small talk for a bit. Found out that she lives in Aiea and was previously working at Red Carnation before LH. Told me next time we could stay in the room longer. total damage 2 drinks and $ for room.Did she work at Red Carnation awhile back? I think she was working at LH when it used to be Kools Lounge. Although back then I only went to Kools Lounge a couple of times, so I could be mistaken.
Jack Mehoff
05-09-06, 15:27
Did she work at Red Carnation awhile back? I think she was working at LH when it used to be Kools Lounge. Although back then I only went to Kools Lounge a couple of times, so I could be mistaken.
I think she said she was working at Red Carnation for 4 years. I seriously doubt that she was at Kools lounge before it became LH. JM
Jack Mehoff
05-09-06, 15:44
With gas being so expensive decided to check out this place again since it was kind of close to home. Walked and got here after I checked out Club Sahara at about 12. Seems like the same people that were here the last time I came were here too. Small crowd,so I decided to stay for awhile. I think I saw the Hana that everyone keeps talking about sitting by herself in one of the booths. She had that egyptian looking haircut and looks to be in her 50s. Anyway was sitting at the bar when this hag with a nice rack comes and starts to talk to me. Tells me her name is Siyong, I think thats what she said her name was;her english was shitty and she had a real thick accent. Wanted me to buy her a drink and kept sticking out her tongue and hitting me when she was talking to me. Told me to play video games with her,so I went with her. Was playing for a little bit and keeps on hitting me,tell her why she keeps doing that. She apologizes and resumes playing,but later on resumes hitting me and pesters me for a beer. Ask her how much for the drink and tells me $20. Next thing I know she takes a empty bottle and heads for the bar. I immediately head out the door. Was disappointed that I didn't get to sit and talk to Hana.
Men Are Dogs
05-12-06, 19:09
When to Casino on Wed. Newly painted. New carpets and fabrics. Same ole, same ole if you're not paying attention. to the atmosphere. Lots of girls. More than I expected. Lots of girls from other bars and a few hold overs from previous Casino. Sat with my recent honey, Yu Jin. She a real player. You gotta have the cash, but she will play. To busy with customers for a bj, but got a lot of finger penetration, and a quicky hj. Main thing when you sit with her is, get the far back booth and feel her up from the 1st drink. She will try and stall, but ambush her fast and she'll know what you're there for. Good to buy her 2 drinks at a time so she doesn't keep running away. Or another tactic since she likes to sing is buy her 5 songs on a row to sing, then she'll stay until all the songs are done. In the meanwhile, feel her up when she's singing and see if she can hold her notes. Happy Mother's Day to all you fellow Mother F*****s. Have fun.
Waikiki808
05-13-06, 04:10
Panda,
I'm quite sure they open at 2 pm. Although I have never tried it that ealry in the day, I'm absolutely sure that it is possible for some Afternoon Delite. Leilani Lounge isnt a place to relax, drink beer and watch live sports on a widescreen TV. Its a place to "unload". Best is to go Shitfaced. So that the Fuglys look better.I stopped by tonight. Wow. You guys weren't kidding. It's not even a GOOD crappy bar. There were two "patrons" in seats by the door (I'm a bit reluctant to sign off on that since they were staring hard when I walked through the door), a 50-ish woman behind the bar, and a somewhat chunky lady in a waikiki-issue red dress. I took a seat where I could watch TV for a bit, fully expecting the woman in red to come over and at least try to talk. Not happening. Apparently she thinks her job is to just walk around the place from time to time. I left after one drink, no "unloading" at all.
Love Sex 22
05-15-06, 16:34
I heard that US government planning to make tourist visa easily available to Korean citizens for visiting Hawaii . Same type of visa for Guam .
Its going to change totally the AMP and the Bar seen in Honolulu . Finally something to look forward to .
Was there the other night. Saw a girl in her 30's that was not bad to the eyes. However, since I was with the boys after drinking I could not partake in any fun. Does anyone have any info on Carnation Lounge and if they play?
Green Tee.
What's up with this place?
Green Tee.
What's up with this place?
Just changed hands from Mona to Hana. Some young talent from Kapiolani hanging around with the usual older Kalihi ones until the grand opening crowd dies down. Its better run than Mona. More like a Cheers type place so the play will be limited if at all until mama decides how she'll handle upstairs. The main improvement is that Mona and her drunk sluts are not pushing drinks all night. Food was good since Hana is service oriented. She sat briefly with us since we know her from her days on Young street. But never does she push the girls on us nor push drinks. Its a good place to gather. Is that a dance floor I see in the back--perhaps KBs feel thats the answer to rejuvenating the KB business which is gradually declining all over.
Just changed hands from Mona to Hana. Some young talent from Kapiolani hanging around with the usual older Kalihi ones until the grand opening crowd dies down. Its better run than Mona. More like a Cheers type place so the play will be limited if at all until mama decides how she'll handle upstairs. The main improvement is that Mona and her drunk sluts are not pushing drinks all night. Food was good since Hana is service oriented. She sat briefly with us since we know her from her days on Young street. But never does she push the girls on us nor push drinks. Its a good place to gather. Is that a dance floor I see in the back--perhaps KBs feel thats the answer to rejuvenating the KB business which is gradually declining all over.Thanks,
Was wondering if it was a new owner or just a revamp. I'll wait till it calms down a little before heading back.
Just changed hands from Mona to Hana. Some young talent from Kapiolani hanging around with the usual older Kalihi ones until the grand opening crowd dies down. Its better run than Mona. More like a Cheers type place so the play will be limited if at all until mama decides how she'll handle upstairs. The main improvement is that Mona and her drunk sluts are not pushing drinks all night. Food was good since Hana is service oriented. She sat briefly with us since we know her from her days on Young street. But never does she push the girls on us nor push drinks. Its a good place to gather. Is that a dance floor I see in the back--perhaps KBs feel thats the answer to rejuvenating the KB business which is gradually declining all over.
TB - I've noticed that at some other KBs as well, either a dance floor or dancing area. Usually, they get a bunch of karaoke singers to ampt eh place up, and the gals are dancing/singing, sometimes alone, sometimes with customers. I guess it beats just sitting and talking with guys at the bar or at the tables.
PD
TB - I've noticed that at some other KBs as well, either a dance floor or dancing area. Usually, they get a bunch of karaoke singers to ampt eh place up, and the gals are dancing/singing, sometimes alone, sometimes with customers. I guess it beats just sitting and talking with guys at the bar or at the tables.
PD
I believe the baby-boomers will be the last generation to support the KB industry. Unless owners come up with a new gimmick (like naked couples dancing or DNA swapping) KBs will die on the vine. They might even come up with a novel idea like customer service (what dat?) to attract and hold the younger generation who are not becoming loyal to KBs nor get excited about going bar hopping twice a week. They go once a month and that's not going to sustain the industry. The smart KB owners will survive because they will find a way that works. The others will gradually go into other things--maybe its a sign that MPs are on the rise. Just a comment.
Member #4020
06-01-06, 18:23
Where is the current Green Tee? I havn't seen Hana for about a year or so.
Where is the current Green Tee? I havn't seen Hana for about a year or so.
I'm pretty sure it is the old Monalia/Hilltop/Hoban in Waiakamilo Shopping Center.
Did some KB hopping with a few friends last night. Here's the lowdown...
7 Kings - stopped in for a few, and there were some lookers. One of my friends sat with a healthy, well endowed woman with a panther tattoo on her back. Gotta have been fakes, but she was allowing some touching of them. Sorry, didn't get her name, but she is slim with a rack, short hair, looks and speaks like a local.
Another gal was in the mix as it was her first day in Hawaii and at work. Told everyone that she was a music major in Korea...yeah right...then she started singing Karaoke, and blew the house down with her voice and range. Good fun, but we decided to move on to meet some friends at...
Vegas II - great fun there...sat with a girl named Jan...slim gal, and immediately was allowing the hand to slip down her jeans to do some rubbing. Granted she was drinking a lot before I got her, but that made it all the more fun. My buddy was sitting with another gal, and she was basically spreading and showing her goods. Didn't spend that much, but was having fun...but decided to move on to...
Cheers Station - My friend got the mama - Kim - then got traded off to another gal named Tammy, who initially sat with me. I don't know what she said to the my friend, but he was off to the rooms for some action. I ended up with two seperate gals...both of which were kinda drunk, and allowed some clit rubbing, fingering, and tit sucking for 2 drinks each. In return did get a hand job. My friend in the room, he told me he got a bbbjtcim, but didn't say what the damage was.
Whew...what a night...haven't done it for a while...great fun!
Stay safe folks,
PD
I'm pretty sure it is the old Monalia/Hilltop/Hoban in Waiakamilo Shopping Center.
Yup Green Tee is the old Monalia and Hana is the mama. Surprised to see in recent post that Cheers' new management allows so much play. Must check it out.
Member #4020
06-05-06, 15:26
Thanks for the info on Green Tee. Have known Hana for many, many years. She was a real beauty in her earlier years.
Niner Whiner
06-08-06, 05:09
Was there the other night. Saw a girl in her 30's that was not bad to the eyes. However, since I was with the boys after drinking I could not partake in any fun. Does anyone have any info on Carnation Lounge and if they play?This the one in Pearl City?
The girl you talking about-skinny, about 5'5", long hair? I think her name is Connie, like all other girls who know their the best looking, she's a teaser, lots of touchy-touchy but nothhing more. She'll suck your blood till the last drop before you get action.
Uncle Buck
06-09-06, 23:13
I didn't know where to post this so here goes...Anyone here go to TJ's located on the corner of S. King and Kapiolani? There are some women that works there. One of the girls has like some double-D's, but she has some kind of goth look. And there are some other hot girls that work there...
TJs isn't a KB. As far as I know you could throw as much money at those girls without getting any play. Nice to look at though.
I didn't know where to post this so here goes...Anyone here go to TJ's located on the corner of S. King and Kapiolani? There are some women that works there. One of the girls has like some double-D's, but she has some kind of goth look. And there are some other hot girls that work there...TJs is a sports bar at most. It's a more out of the way local spot for 90s grads and younger. Most of the girls there are nice. I am friends with management and haven't heard of DIRECT play as a result of these girls being hostesses or waitresses. If play is available, it's not because of their job haha.
Their food is delicious to say the least, since I stopped the alcohol.
Has anyone got any play from Julie (Viet) or Bonnie (she claims she's half Chinese and half Korean)? They look awesome and were dancing wild in the booth next to ours.
Quickshoot
06-13-06, 22:52
I haven't been down there recently. Just wondering if she is still there? Last time, she was out and was serviced by Kyong - older enhanced gal.
I haven't been down there recently. Just wondering if she is still there? Last time, she was out and was serviced by Kyong - older enhanced gal.
Choi typically works from 11am to @9pm. If you go early in the day you'll definitely be her first for the day and she'll have more energy.
Choi typically works from 11am to @9pm. If you go early in the day you'll definitely be her first for the day and she'll have more energy.
What does Choi look like?
I was there one time and was serviced by Tammy (?), she works during the day time and leaves at 9pm. She is in her 40's, plain looking, Korean, 5' 5" tall, 120lb's, B cup, charged me $125 for CBJCFS. When I was there I did not want to ask for Choi given I never met her before, I was afraid if I asked for her the person I was asking would be her. Did not want to be questioned why I was asking for her and where did I hear about her etc...
Peckerwood
06-14-06, 16:29
What does Choi look like?
I was there one time and was serviced by Tammy (?), she works during the day time and leaves at 9pm. She is in her 40's, plain looking, Korean, 5' 5" tall, 120lb's, B cup, charged me $125 for CBJCFS. When I was there I did not want to ask for Choi given I never met her before, I was afraid if I asked for her the person I was asking would be her. Did not want to be questioned why I was asking for her and where did I hear about her etc...
That sounds like Choi/Young. She has straight medium length black hair and usually exercises when not with a customer and is in good physical condition.
PW
What does Choi look like? I was there one time and was serviced by Tammy (?), she works during the day time and leaves at 9pm. She is in her 40's, plain looking, Korean, 5' 5" tall, 120lb's, B cup, charged me $125 for CBJCFS.
Yeah, Tammy is Choi. I'm not sure about your assessment of her having B cups. I would say they are Cs at least. You should get a BBBJCIM from her. Really nice. Something about her always makes me blow my load early. I always prep myself (tossing off) before seeing her, but she still gets me to come early. Just banging away in mish or doggie while DFKing her and mauling her tits just sends me over the edge!
Niner Whiner
06-15-06, 02:24
Must b a popular place.
Anybody know if Penny still there?
What happened to Anna?
Mahalo ;)
Peckerwood
06-16-06, 11:29
Must b a popular place.
Anybody know if Penny still there?
What happened to Anna?
Mahalo ;)
Yes,
Penny is still there. I don't recall an Anna there, what did she look like? Sunny is still there also, sometimes.
PW
Niner Whiner
06-17-06, 02:52
Yes,
Penny is still there. I don't recall an Anna there, what did she look like? Sunny is still there also, sometimes.
PWAnna was there a while back. When Mia was the mama and it was still called Kool's. She was the one Choi replaced.
She's about 5'4, somewhere between 130-140lbs (meaty). Little past shoulder-length wavey hair. She wears conservative clothes. Looks late 30's. She's kinda loud. Used to sit mostly at the bar, whether she had a customer or not, kinda like the "greeting" mama. Not pushy for drinks either.
She was good fun to talk to and tell jokes. She was one of the few who didn't "play" unless she knew you really well. C cup and all natural.
At first glance, she looks attractive. She hardly wears make-up. It's hard to describe her face, it's been so long since I've been there. She was the bartendress for a while.
Kinda stayed away from KB's. But AMP's are hit-and-miss (girl you want is either "on vacation" or busy with another customer) or you go on an off night and only the dogs are left. And I kinda miss the chase of the KB's.
I sure do miss Yokohama.
Shortshooter
06-18-06, 01:14
I was looking around for London Hub (someone please tell me where it is, I thought I knew, but could not find to save my life) and walked into Club Sandy. Was thinking about trying Evergreen again, and was gonna play a video game, and get a bit of a tease from one of the girls there. I sat at the game right inside the door and one of the ladies (mid 40ish, big hard fake C's) sat with me. She teased me enough to deserve a drink. I played the game for a while and all the while she teased away. I began putting names in the game asking her questions, she laughed and kept teasing. I got a little handsy on her tits and she put my FIV. She asked me to go into the corner for $, I already bought her 3 drinks and asked for discount, she agreed on .8. Once behind the wall, quick pants down, etc.
Sloppy BBBJ, then a naked lap dance, some more BBBJ, thought I was gonna pop and insisted on some DATY (nice taste), finally BBBJTCIM.
Total damage: .6 for drinks, .1 for my drinks, .8 tip. Not bad. I didn't ask name before and she practically ran away after, so I can't tell you her name. She was very pretty for an older Korean lady (could have even been 50+).
I was looking around for London Hub (someone please tell me where it is, I thought I knew, but could not find to save my life) and walked into Club Sandy. Was thinking about trying Evergreen again, and was gonna play a video game, and get a bit of a tease from one of the girls there. I sat at the game right inside the door and one of the ladies (mid 40ish, big hard fake C's) sat with me. She teased me enough to deserve a drink. I played the game for a while and all the while she teased away. I began putting names in the game asking her questions, she laughed and kept teasing. I got a little handsy on her tits and she put my FIV. She asked me to go into the corner for $, I already bought her 3 drinks and asked for discount, she agreed on .8. Once behind the wall, quick pants down, etc.
Sloppy BBBJ, then a naked lap dance, some more BBBJ, thought I was gonna pop and insisted on some DATY (nice taste), finally BBBJTCIM.
Total damage: .6 for drinks, .1 for my drinks, .8 tip. Not bad. I didn't ask name before and she practically ran away after, so I can't tell you her name. She was very pretty for an older Korean lady (could have even been 50+).He shoots. He SCORES! Is Club Sandy in the complex with McDonalds and a couple other bars? Is it the one closer to the mountain?
I had a hard time finding Hub too since people were telling me it was on Waikamilo Rd. It may be easier to find if you find the 7-11 on Dillingham. If you're going toward downtown on Dillingham, take the right turn after 7-11 by the river, and then just follow that road which will turn right.
I was looking around for London Hub (someone please tell me where it is, I thought I knew, but could not find to save my life) and walked into Club Sandy. Was thinking about trying Evergreen again, and was gonna play a video game, and get a bit of a tease from one of the girls there. I sat at the game right inside the door and one of the ladies (mid 40ish, big hard fake C's) sat with me. She teased me enough to deserve a drink. I played the game for a while and all the while she teased away. I began putting names in the game asking her questions, she laughed and kept teasing. I got a little handsy on her tits and she put my FIV. She asked me to go into the corner for $, I already bought her 3 drinks and asked for discount, she agreed on .8. Once behind the wall, quick pants down, etc.
Sloppy BBBJ, then a naked lap dance, some more BBBJ, thought I was gonna pop and insisted on some DATY (nice taste), finally BBBJTCIM.
Total damage: .6 for drinks, .1 for my drinks, .8 tip. Not bad. I didn't ask name before and she practically ran away after, so I can't tell you her name. She was very pretty for an older Korean lady (could have even been 50+).
Niner Whiner
06-19-06, 04:00
I was looking around for London Hub (someone please tell me where it is, I thought I knew, but could not find to save my life) London Hub is on Kalani Street, across from Woodcraft...from Nimitz, heading Mauka on Waiakamilo Street, it is the 2nd street, turn right, and it'll be on your left.
Is Club Sandy in the complex with McDonalds and a couple other bars? Is it the one closer to the mountain?Sandy is on the corner of Rycroft and Keeaumoku streets. Makai of McDonald's on the Diamond Head side.
Jack Mehoff
06-19-06, 09:08
The only Club Sandy I know of is the one on Keeaumoku st. next to the korean restaurant. Lots of skanky, old women past their prime.
Shortshooter
06-20-06, 00:20
London Hub is on Kalani Street, across from Woodcraft...from Nimitz, heading Mauka on Waiakamilo Street, it is the 2nd street, turn right, and it'll be on your left.
Sandy is on the corner of Rycroft and Keeaumoku streets. Makai of McDonald's on the Diamond Head side.Sandy is accross the street from McD back towards Wal-Mart, neat the parking lot with the Crystal Palace entrance. Thanks for the London info!
Shortshooter
06-20-06, 00:45
The only Club Sandy I know of is the one on Keeaumoku st. next to the korean restaurant. Lots of skanky, old women past their prime.That's the place Jack! Borderline strippers from time to time; most skankier than the "hostesses." I did say the one I took could've been 50+!
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