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Scooter
12-12-02, 12:06
Hey Guys!

I have been to that one in Highland about twice also with no luck. I really doubt that anything will happen at the one in Munster either. At least we still have Peking; always a sure bet. I guess this may sound bad, but I have never haggled at Peking, When the girl comes in I giver her the $200 and and she understands, never had a problem there and always a good time.

Cruised Hammond this morning since it felt a little warmer out, nothing except maybe one black SW on Stateline. Maybe those girls will pop up on Calumet again. One morning awhile back I picked up a real young, good looking white girl on Hohman...almost didn't think she was a SW. She took me back to her place on Conkey (just east of Calumet). Gave sort of an uninspired bbbj (think her baby was sleeping in the other room), I wanted to go for the full service but neither one of us had a condom. I think she was just out there to get a little extra money for food and stuff not a druggie. It is really great when you come across these girls that are only part-timers. Happy Hunting!

--Scooter

macaroni
12-12-02, 16:09
Hey Guys,

as far as Peking goes I've been a patron there for the past three years or so. The price tends to vary from 160 to 200. There is or was a girl there last month called "Pink" who asked for 160 and boy did she give the full service---big time! I think that these girls start to undercut one another hoping that you'll come back and ask again for them. I highly reccomend "pink". I've visited her a number of times and everytime she says 160. On one occasion I gave her 2 C notes and she came back with two Ben Franklins! gotta love it! There are two other girls that are A+ at the $200 level one named Kathy (whos gone but will be back) and the other is Yu-Mi. All three of these girls are 100% natural---I can't stand fake titties! Kathy has nice c cups and Yu-Mi has b's.

SamaRy
12-12-02, 19:53
Hey guys, does anyone know of a service that will still come out to NW Indiana, since the one in Crown Point got shut down I have really missed having an escort come to the house.... And there are nights I just don't want to go all the way to peking...

I can back chan if so...

Ben Dover
12-13-02, 12:42
I stopped by the AMP on 45th a couple of times, and only got a HJ on the last visit. I don't think I'll be back. So so massage, so so HJ.

I was at the AMP in Valpo only once and got nothing. I tried, but struck out.

The AMP in Mich City is another Peking Spa. You can get anything you want. Slightly cheap than Peking. Problem is the parking is too damn public. Anyone can spot your car there.

I don't know of any service in CP. I read about a big prositition bust there last year. I never knew anythign about it. I was WAAAY out of the loop!!

I have seen several new girls at PM, but nothing to brag about.

I cruised the lot north of the truck stop on route 20 (between the ponderosa steak house and the adult book store), but have not seen anything there. Maybe I should get a cb. I see several old cars cruising aroudn there all the time....I wonder if that is some action?

Anyone else know of any area?

macaroni
12-13-02, 15:00
Hey guys,

Ben, I'm sorry but I must disagree with you on this one, the amp in Michigan City IS NOT another PEKING. ohhhh where shall I start? I agree with you that the parking sucks but that is the only thing. At peking, there is a slew of beautiful girls-- I don't even know how many work there at a time but they are all hotties 7s, 8s, 9s, and 10s? In MC there are only two girls (grannies) that work and they are butt ugly---4,5,6. I was there not too long ago and it sucked as always.

SamaRy
12-13-02, 16:09
Wow, went to Peking last night, and had to wait... What the.. too many people requesting Ruby... Guess we are trying to wear her out.... Mamason Hong told me she becoming very popular, why not try out another girl, I figured, yeah why not, if mamason say she do good job...

Really cute and a great massage, great english skills and almost a BBBJ, the rest was good; she even took her time even though they were really busy... Wish I could remember her name...

kingGirlfriend
12-15-02, 02:20
SamaRy, was the girl at Peking's named Miko by chance? I stopped over Peking this past Monday and had a very pretty girl named Miko? Said she was up from Atlanta, originally Korea. Went for the CBBJ and was very sensual to take her time. Gave a much better massage than Ruby in my opinion, tho' a few years her senior. Even got me a Pepsi for the trip home. Hope to see her again around Christmas.

Dougie
12-15-02, 17:44
Originally posted by kingGirlfriend
SamaRy, was the girl at Peking's named Miko by chance?

I was there yesterday and had Miko. Not bad, not the youngest one there but she has a beautifully firm body and a nice set of perfectly natural "A's". I thought the massage was kind of lame but the rest was just fine. I don't care much for tattoos though. Actually, I think the mamasan was on break since another girl with short hair (Ruby??) answered the door and I ended up with Miko. Was kind of hoping to get to give Ruby a try though.

FYI, Kathy is back, I saw her as I was leaving. If I had known she was there I sure would have been tempted to ask for her personally but I am always on the lookout for fresh meat. Just out of curiosity, has anyone had both Kathy and Ruby?? How do they compare??

SamaRy
12-15-02, 22:39
kinggirlfriend:
Don't remeber the name, but your description was right on, a little older, long hair, nice body. was originally from korea, been in US for a while, she could actually carry on a conversation...

After so many years of going there, I kind of start to blur all the names.. Just remember the action...

dougie, if kathy was the one that was there last year? then she is much better than ruby.. Kathy was an all time favorite...

macaroni
12-16-02, 12:57
I know Kathy and Ruby---all in all I'd have to say Kathy is a better bet. She tends to take her time more and is more sensual. Kathy is a couple inches taller than Ruby and probably ten to fifteen pounds more than Ruby (in all the right places). Kathy doesn't speak nearly as much as Ruby. Ruby is like a little spark plug---very hyper, petite tight body. She asked me if I would take her out on X-mas nite! LOL! I entertained the idea and told her maybe----she then asked if I could get her some candy!--she was talking about candy cane : ) I told her that I wouldn't be able to do that for her.

Flashman
12-16-02, 18:59
Report on the P.Spa.

Guys, very soon will be the last chance to see the recently famous Ruby.

Had a great FS visit with her today that was everything the past posts promised. Usual, hi end $$$$ for a very unrushed hour +.

Get over there soon if you can swing it, the experience was a rare one. Love the hot pink shower suit, cbj, daty, fs and a pretty good medium-hard massage.


The bad news is she said that she is going back home to Osaka on 1 Jan., only a few short weeks away. (I thought that she was Korean, but she says she is from Japan.)

kingGirlfriend
12-16-02, 21:33
Originally posted by dougie
Just out of curiosity, has anyone had both Kathy and Ruby?? How do they compare??

Yes. But more importantly I was with Kathy several times and was with Ruby only once. My time with Ruby was kinda spoiled cuz I rolled out late on a Saturday and the place was kinda busy so my time was a bit 'ahem' rushed. She was great though and missing out on it the first time I'd really like to daty. But Kathy's back! Hmmmm...I think I might hafta stick with Miko for the holidays tho', she really put a smile on my face. I mean, beacuse I had some drinks.

Girl brought me a Pepsi for the ride home! Now that's Christmas.

SamaRy
12-16-02, 23:12
Damn kingGirlFriend, you are a cheap date.... just buy him a pepsi and he is smiling for a week...

But seriously, I have to agree Miko really made me smile....

I wonder what Miko and Kathy at the same time would be like?

kingGirlfriend
12-17-02, 21:45
Originally posted by Desi
I see a number of posts where the hobbyist performed DATY. Can soemone knowledgeable comment on the amount of risks involved ofcatching STD this way.

Uhh...I dunno, whatever. Miko and Kathy at the same time? Could you do do that? I mean that would be freakin' awesome! Serious tho', does any one out there know if you can be with multiple girls at Peking?

DB*
12-19-02, 10:23
When I was at Peking in the summer I met a Kathy who was thirtyish something. (Don't know if she's the same Kathy that's been talked about here). Anyway, I asked about getting two girls at once and she said it would cost double (meaning about $400). I also asked Julie but she replied that she's never done anything like it before. So, my guess is yes you can get two at once but it's dependant on the girl if she wants to do it or not and it'll cost ya.

Would someone describe Kathy for us? Thanks

DB

SamaRy
12-19-02, 11:41
Originally posted by kingGirlfriend
Uhh...I dunno, whatever. Miko and Kathy at the same time? Could you do do that? I mean that would be freakin' awesome! Serious tho', does any one out there know if you can be with multiple girls at Peking?

Used to, if Mamason Hong knows you, just request the 2 girls you want... I have not done this for a long time, as only a few of the girls like it, and it has to be during a slow time... (Not sure if it is ever slow there anymore...) try it and let me know.... I wont be back in the area for a little while...

alphafield
12-20-02, 19:30
Hitting the Indy boats tonight. Can anybody give me basic directions to Peking and how late are they open?

thanks

-Af-

Jonny
12-20-02, 19:35
to Peking:

Indianapolis Blvd. to Chicago Ave.- head west on Chicago ave one block to Macoun - turn right - it's right there.

Or, if coming from Calumet Avenue, head East on Chicago avenue about 1.5 miles -turn left on Macoun.

alphafield
12-21-02, 01:18
Thanks forthe directions. Will post my experience. Hope they are still open when I get off the boat (and that I win!).

-Af-

kingGirlfriend
12-28-02, 05:55
C'mon sons the holidays gotta have it going on by now.

10:30 am Christmas Eve gave Peking a call and mammason said they'd be open till midnight. Scratched my shit, hosed it down and took off. A real pretty girl answered the door, don't know here name? Younger, but had to go with my gut. Mikosan was sweetheart once again, maybe it was the holidays? I dunno, but we did it doggy then she gave me champagne chocolate after I nutted and sat for a bit whispering to my dick about holiday bitches. Maybe time to squeeze a visit in by New Years.

Yo FELLAS you out there?

SamaRy
12-28-02, 12:34
KingGF, way to go on miko!

Yeah, still here, nothing going on in IN other than Peking....

Anyone else having any fun?

antoniocool69
12-29-02, 20:50
Dear Everyone,

I had a case of cabin fever yesterday, so I decided to go out and see what trouble I could get into. As a result, I happened to stumble across a new club/bookstore located on the outskirts of Gary.

It's located on Indiana Route 312 just east of the Gary Airport. Upon arrival, I was greeted (pestered) by three surprisingly nice looking blondes who kept asking if I would be interested in a live show. In fact, one of the girls offered to do a 2-girl show either on stage or in the back room with me. Either way, it was my choice. However, I chose not to accept their offer although they were persistent in asking!! (The one blonde had a huge set of hooters!! and a petite frame)

Anyway, the best way to find the club is to take Cline Avenue north from 80-94 to the Indiana Rt. 312 (Gary Airport Exit) and go east on Rt. 312 to the east side of the Gary Airport. It's located on the left side of the road in a white building which I belived, used to be some type of titty bar.

If anyone decides to pursue it, please submit a report in the Forum and let us know how it was.

Thank you,

Sincerely,

AntonioCool69

Azil
12-30-02, 00:37
Antonio:

It's the old Club Tops, which was a good place for a while -- got raided, I think.

I was in a few nights ago, had a choice of a fat black or a fat white. Passed. I think the price was $35 for three songs, $50 for five. Might be worth a try if the girls were better looking.

Broadway in Gary has been dead lately -- nothing near the motel, practically nothing farther south.

sexmonkey
12-31-02, 12:19
Gentlemen


How is everyone, I hope everyone got what they wanted for the Season. Well now that that's out of the way I have a question for anyone to answer. My question is. do you think it is possible to get the Mamasan at the Peking to give you a ref. for the other AMP's in area?

Don't get me wrong I like the Peking it's just that whenever I go Mamasan knows me (good thing), but she brings me the same girl until that girl is no longer there. Now I'm not complaining (to loudly) because I alway get a great hook-up but, there are like five (5) more AMP's in the area and woundn't it be great to roam far and wide.

That's just my thoughts on the matter and it would be nice.


Sexmonkey

HappyGardener
12-31-02, 14:47
Sexmonkey;

Let me preference this by saying I have never been to Peking. I know that is a sad fact and hard to believe but I just have never made the trip. I guess I have been lucky enough in the Chicago area that I haven't had to make the trip. I do like P & M's for its seediness and some of the other Rt. 12/20 strip clubs, but I have never made it into Peking. And I know several hobbiests who have told me directly about wondrful experiences there. All this to say that I don't know the Mamasan there.

Having said all that crap, my experience in AMPs is that sometimes they talk to each other and sometimes they don't. It really depends on the relationship between the "owners" of the spa. I am not talking about the Korean fiancial gentlemen who set up the money for the spa, but the actual owner of record and the man or woman who picks up the money and deposits the money in the bank.
I have had conversations with one owner and two mamasans where they were more forthcoming then usual. They will answer questions to a point. then they will get suspcious and ask, "why are you asking so mmany questions."

How many of you have been in the spas when those Nextel phones rang, and the Korean conversations was flying back and forth? It is often the girls talking to girls in other spas...sometimes around the country. So the answer, sexmonkey is that Mamasan probably knows the mamsan in the other spa you want to go to. Remember, these girls move from spa to spa.

You say you have a good realtionship with her now. Next time you are there, try to talk to her about the other spas by name. See what her reaction is. She may shut down immdeiatly and say she knows nothing. Or she may ask you why you want to know. If it was me, I think I would slip her a couple of bucks and ask her to put in a good word for you when and if she talks to her firends. Make sure she knows your name!!!.

I am curious what other AMPS you are talking about. If you get over to Elkhart, let me know if you go to Natural Spa. I would like to know if a certain person is still working there.

Antonio:
yes the old Club Tops is now something else. That place gets reinvented every couple of years, I think. I was there about 10 years ago when it is was a hangout for white steel workers and the Fashion Shows were grab ass affairs where the you could get anything you wanted in a private show. Then it became a dance place where the girls and clientele were mostly black. I used to be able to finger all the dancers on stage as they came for their dollar. Got a few HJ and BJ during lap dances. I stopped going there after 2 guys asked me in the parking lot what I would say to God if I met him right now. I took it as a hint to leave before I had the chance to talk to God personally.

Schtick
12-31-02, 15:35
Antonio-

I'm usually on the Chicago boards but I keep track of what is going on in nw in. What is the deal with this place? Is it a an adult book store? Fashion show? Strip joint? I must say I am very intrigued and would love to know more. Is the place safe? Happygardeners post left me a little concerned. Please post what you know or back channel me at schtick750@hotmail.com.

Let me know if can provide any info on the Chicago, Illinois, south suburbs scene. I'll be happy to share what I know.

Happy humping! Happy hunting!

sexmonkey
12-31-02, 16:51
Thanks Happy


There are a couple in Valpo and a couple in the Shererville area and with them being new they are very leary of LE so I figure by getting a ref. they will be a little more open to new customers.


sexmonkey

HappyGardener
12-31-02, 17:18
If you ae driving on the Indiana Toll Road, you can see the lights of this place just before you pass the airport. Or just before you get to the airport if you are driving west back to Chicago. Follow his directions to actually get to the place. Years ago I finally bought a good street map of the NW corner of Indiana because if you are not from the area, it can get so confusing with the mills and refineries and such. The roads just seem to stop in a lagoon somewhere.

My conversation with the two guys was a one time occurance. I was there maybe 1/2 dozen times over the years when it was Club Tops, and had absolutly no other problems. Although I am always on my best behavior in any bar where I am the sole white man. As well as a bar that has a sign that says: "No weapons, no colors, no fighting." And then frisks you when you walk in. But hey, I am a bit of a thrill seeker and always like the seedier side of town.

If you read back into the November or December posts, I think someone else reported on this place. I believe it is now more of a adult bookstore/private dancer kind of place. Someone else can correct me if they have been inside.

antoniocool69
12-31-02, 17:33
Dear Mr. Schtick and Mr. Happygardener.

As I mentioned earlier I had stumbled upon this club/bookstore purely by mistake as I recalled from years past that it used to be some type of titty bar. However, I don't think it's justifiable being called a bookstore since they only had one table full of magazines and a few movie shelves. On the other hand, I wouldn't say that it's a full blown club (no pun intended) either.

Consequently, the two owners inside appeared to be of foreign nationality and all of the clientle that walked through the door were similar to what walks into Pete & Mables (mixed).

In fact, the three girls working at the time were blonde and fairly decent looking although I found it strange that they kept pestering me to purchase a private dance in the "backroom".

Based on street intelligence I have gathered in the past, I'm almost positive you could get "anything you want" there. And, I must admit that I was intrigued by the thought of having 2 girls during a private show.

Finally, for those of you who are worried about your vehicle, I noticed several tv monitors behind the counter survelling the parking lot which made me feel a little better.

Mr. Schtik. please provide directions if you can, to a bar called Dan's place in Chicago Heights.

Thank you,

Sincerely,

Antoniocool69

HappyGardener
12-31-02, 17:38
I am curious if the inside still looks the same or if has been remodeled. There was a bar and a small stage and several rooms when it was Club Topps. the security cameras were there too as I recall. And I think they used to have someone in the lot on busy nights. Anyway that is all ancient history. AS I said in a previous post, i think the club has to reinvent itself every couple of years. Any idea on the hours of this place? And what was the price to go back into a room?

antoniocool69
12-31-02, 17:47
Dear Mr. Happygardener:

The sign posted outside indicates the place is open 24 hours, although I'm not sure if that means seven days a week.

And of course, the classic "Girls Wanted" sign tacked up.

Consequently I felt safe going inside and having a look around but I didn't want to look it over with a fine tooth comb either.

As for the prices, I seem to recall that one song is $20.00 with three for $50.00 However, if you desire something else, offer more. If it were me, I would request American Pie by Don Mclane since that fricking song lasts close to 10 minutes!!

Anyway, I hope that helps. Please let me know if I can be of
further assistance.

Sincerely,

Mr. Antoniocool69

Jonny
12-31-02, 17:57
Antonio:

Dan's is on Chicago Road at 19th street, a quarter mile south of Lincoln Highyway/Route 30 (lincoln highway is 14th street in the heights). It's right in the heart of the Street waker stroll. There is also a plethora of porn available at the greyhound depot.l

antoniocool69
12-31-02, 20:39
Dear Mr. Johnny,

Is it safe to go inside of Dan's place? Also, is it on the east or west side of Chicago Road? What type of crowd patronizes the bar?

Thank you,

Sincerely,

Mr. Antoniocool69

Jonny
01-01-03, 02:51
It's on the east side of the street. The clientele is the usual area mix of white (italian), mexican and black.

SamaRy
01-02-03, 22:56
Originally posted by sexmonkey
There are a couple in Valpo and a couple in the Shererville area sexmonkey

Hey sexmonkey, where in Schererville? Thought all the ones in Schererville had been closed?

trainbum17
01-03-03, 04:22
well...the gary area is home originally was there for christmas and couldn't sleep christmas night...as i am a midnite worker!
went cruising....saw a tite ass white gal at the micky d's in miller and almost ran over two workers..one white and one black...near the motel jus east of there. the white gall looked like a linebacker
is their any quality to be found in "da region"?

SamaRy
01-03-03, 09:59
Originally posted by trainbum17
well...the gary area is home originally was there for christmas and couldn't sleep christmas night...as i am a midnite worker!
went cruising....saw a tite ass white gal at the micky d's in miller and almost ran over two workers..one white and one black...near the motel jus east of there. the white gall looked like a linebacker
is their any quality to be found in "da region"?

No quality SWs in years.........

sexmonkey
01-04-03, 03:36
Sam


I heard that a new place opened where the old one used to be on 41. This could be hear say I don't normally go to that area. The two in Valpo advertise in the sports section of the newspaper. Worth a shot (no pun intended) if you can work out extras.



Sexmonkey

Ben Dover
01-06-03, 14:30
Where was the old place on 41?

SamaRy
01-06-03, 16:11
Originally posted by Ben Dover
Where was the old place on 41?

Only one in Schererville that I know of was on 41 next to Americall just north of the old AAA which was the temporary police station for a while and next to the MEAT place.. This was closed years ago. Have not heard of any others, and this never reopened as far as I know.

Ben Dover
01-06-03, 16:24
Did you ever try the AMP on 30, just east on the mall on the north side? I stopped a few times, but I never saw anything I liked. The same with the place on 45th (although I did get a HJ there once)

SamaRy
01-06-03, 20:09
Originally posted by Ben Dover
Did you ever try the AMP on 30, just east on the mall on the north side? I stopped a few times, but I never saw anything I liked. The same with the place on 45th (although I did get a HJ there once)

yeah, the one on 30 east of the mall sucked, couldn't get anyone too though....

tried the one in highland, ugly old woman works there....

then the new one in munster.... way too over priced and had CAMERAS in the room? what the f! is that? yelled and got my money back....

Peking is about the only one I know works in the area....

OCTraveler
01-09-03, 00:07
Although I might be dating myself or showing my lack of appreciation for current slang, I agree with you Bukake.

Anyway to my real question....What's the latest on P&M's? As a guy from California who has tried this place and really appreciate it for what it is - a relic of an era gone bye and one of the true ***** bars left, I really appreciate reading the posts about this place. My work schedule has changed and I no longer get to Chicagoland too often, so reading about P&M's is all that's left.

I'd appreciate an update ... and in return, you might want to read in the Tiajuana section about a fun time I had this week at Adelitas (one of TJ's proven hunting ground).

Happy Hunting and say hello to Tamika for me.

Scooter
01-09-03, 08:22
Hey Everyone!

Hope the Holidays were good to you all. Haven't been hitting the street scene too hard lately, but on my occasional 'strolls' I have not seen anything more than an occasional black SW on stateline. Don't know if it is because of LE or just the cold weather. Since I got lucky on the boats the other day I decided to spend a little money on myself yesterday. So on my way home form work I stopped by industrial strip for a bit of a warm-up dance and then I headed over to good old reliable Peking. Had the pleasure of having a session with Miko. As was previously stated she is not the youngest one there, and her massage was sort of lame (no shower offered), however her French and other skills more than made up for anything else. She was really great about sneaking the condom on, I had no idea that it was already on there for quite awhile.
I'd like to know if anyone has anymore information about what the deal is in the place that used to be Club Topps. Has anyone gotten the 'dances' there yet? If I don't here anything soon I might have to bite the bullet and head out there. The only reason I am reluctant to is that I was in there once when it was Club Topps and they thought I was LE (damn military haircut). Oh well. Happy Hunting everyone!

--Scooter

SamaRy
01-09-03, 09:49
Originally posted by Bukake
Did anyone other than myself have a problem understanding what in the hell Kingirlfriend wrote? How about using the English language next time chief.

Me no speaka dat language?

Ben Dover
01-09-03, 17:38
Is Club Topps open again? Do they have dancers?

Clubking01
01-09-03, 17:46
Hi Neighbors:

I'm from Chicago but travelling soon through Indiana. Any updates on P & M's. I would like to stop, but is it worth the trip?

Thanks in advance for any info.

Happy and SAFE Hunting!

Flashman
01-09-03, 22:27
What the latest on Peking? Last time I was there was just before Christmas and had a great time with Ruby. But she told me that she was going back to Japan on1-1-03.

Did she really leave? How about the Pekings other talent now on duty?

Peking is still one of the few sure-thing places.

To echo what Clubking asked about. Anyone out there with a P&M update. You can't go to Peking without a visit to P&M! Or at least a neighborhood drive by.

NewUserHere
01-10-03, 01:37
Hi guys.

I read that peking is $200 for fs. Does that include the house fee or is that just the tip?

also what is it for bj and hj?

I tried some of the AMPs in west suburbs and they do not serve asians. I got rejected. Not even a regular massage. A frown and a "go away". Is it the same with peking? I don't want to drive down there for nothing.

Warpig2000
01-10-03, 01:50
For KingGirlfriend:

When Bukake Say: Did anyone other than myself have a problem understanding what in the hell Kingirlfriend wrote? How about using the English language next time chief.

He means:
Yo buss dis. Did anyone othuh than myself has a probem understandin what in de hell Kinyoung hofrien' wrote? How 'boutusin de English language next time chief. Sheeit!
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OCTraveler sez:
Although I might be dating myself or showing my lack of appreciation for current slang, I agree with you Bukake.

He means:
Yo buss dis. 'doe I might be datin myself or showin my lack uh appreciation fuh current slang, I'm down wit dat wit you Bukake. Sheeit!
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English translated to Ebonics: http://www.atlantaga.com/ebonics.htm

Yo buss dis. Too bad da homeboy tounge ain't translated back to Standard Fucking Writen English fo the rest of us who grew up in da burbs rather than the hood- Sheeit!

trainbum17
01-10-03, 02:17
altho I agree the message in question was rather difficult to understand, i did get it after a couple reads. lighten up people. lets talk about the ladies, not the words we use to talk about them with

Ben Dover
01-10-03, 11:26
Regarding Peking:

$200 is for FS. They ask for all at once when your in room. You usually do not pay $60 at the door. You just walk in and the mamasan shows you to the room. Once in the room, the girl will ask for two hundred for "everything". A CBJ is 160. A HJ is whatever you can work out.

My expereince is they get enough guys walking in there with two bill that they loose patience fast if you try to talk them into a lower price. Even if you settle for less, the service will suck (and not in the good way).

P & M is always alive. You just may not like what you see. The place also closes early, usually by 11:30 pm. You can usually get a BJ for $25 and FS for $40. Everyone knows why your in there so once you sit down, someone will ask you for a date. If you say no, then she will ask you for a drink. If you still say no, she will ask for a dollar. Be firm.

If you she a girl there and your not sure if she "dates" (and 99.99995% she does), then ask the bartender. They will tell you or tell her to come and talk to you.

A word of advice, if you see a good looking (5 or higher) girl walk it, move immediately! She won't last long.

The hardest part of P & M is figuring out where to go once you hook up.

When I retire, I think I'll open a cheap motel across the street!

Clubking01
01-10-03, 12:38
Ben Dover:

Thanks for the P & M update. Does anyone have a favorite there that can do a real good bj? Also, can you get the bj in the parking lot?

Flashman
01-10-03, 14:30
Ben Dover

Thanks for the post on Peking and P&M.

I agree with your Peking comments. Been there many times and that is the way it is.

Anyone out there have any news on who is working there now? Is Ruby really gone?

Re: P&M

I have driven by many times but now I think I am ready to go inside.

Anyone out there have any suggestions on a place to go if you find an acceptable friend?

I do not want to use my car or the P&M toilet.

Any motels near by? Past reports mentioned close apartments, but are they safe?

Ben Dover
01-10-03, 15:11
At P & M, the girls change all the time. No one really sticks out (except Megan & damn I miss her!).

Just find a decent looking one or at least one with all/most of her teeth.

There really is no close & easy place to go. You usually have to get busy in your car. There are lots of dark parking areas to get lost in.

Every girl "knows" someone who will let you use there apartment for a $10 fee. I would not recommend doing this as you don't know whats waiting for you there.

Warpig2000
01-10-03, 16:36
My spin on P&M's of late.... quality has been declining becuase the drug ****** have driven out some of the better ladies and those who wanted 'out' of the downward spiral. I've been around enough where nothing has happened going to the 'apartments' but for those really concerned with safety it really isn't a great option. Agreed, Megan was an awesome girl, and although she was chunky Rose was pretty decent also. Definately retired from hooking and living in wisconsin- we still corespond by snailmail every christmas! I used to see Judy(older girl) often and she always treated me right- I don't get it, she stole from Mabel and is now barred from the bar. Talk about biting off the nose to spite the face!

I think Alice has a good attitude but she's kind of spacey and whacked out, if you can ignore that her service is pretty good. There is a plump light-skinned chick whose name starts with a 'v' (can't quite remember) who is nothing to look at, big saggy tits- but performs well and is very willing to please, even offered me anal once at less than $.70 but I did not partake. Of course, I ain't been there in a few weeks so I can't really say what the scene is like since before christmas

For whatever reason, Tamika will not give me the time of day, I totally understand why her regulars like her- the girl is built like an ebony brick shithouse. I wish I had some suggestions of other places to go with the ladies, but unfortunately I don't.
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As to my little experiment with the 'ebonics translator' i know it was far from politically correct, but in the way the punch line is not on people who speak the 'hood' dialects but on us Suburbanite white guys chasing poon standing out like sore thumbs. It really would be nice to have some sort of translator to know you are getting the right message across, better yet, some kind of ettiquette guide to know that you don't send the WRONG messages to people you don't want to piss off. I'm with George Carlin- I find our language to be a great source of humor and part of the reason the ideas of our society are so F!cked up and arse backwards half the time. To know a language is to know a person, and being able to 'buss dis hood language' becomes important when negotiating with hood girls and the characters that will float in and out of P&M's, the harbor, Gary, or Chicago Heights. Language has everything to do with getting pussy- spoken and implied, what NOT to say if you don't want to seem like a cop- all of that. If we were in Tijuana and going to Adelitas and the Chicago club we would be trying to habla espanol, here we are trying to communicate to ghetto ho's- it's still like a foreign fucking language to some of us.

Flashman
01-10-03, 22:16
Ben and Warpig,

Thanks for the post and info on P&M.

Member #4828
01-11-03, 19:04
Drove by P & M on my way home about a week ago...light skinned black girl, thin with short hair waved me down and made and offer but, unfortunately, had to be home for prior committment by a certain time...have not been back yet but would like to know if anyone knows this girl by name...would like to ask for her there...

Thanks.

Member #4828
01-11-03, 19:07
By the way, the girl was outside with a broom, sweeping up trash outside the bar...

kingGirlfriend
01-12-03, 13:48
Everyone please, apologies.

I'm sorry if I brought the rauwkus on that last post, I was only sayin that I've been broke (i'm eating) so it'll be some time before I'm able to head out into the great unknown. So please, kindly gentlemen take care of the ladies in my absence. It's true though that for us, language is most definitely key for where we troll and how we come across. Next time I post I'm saying what I want, but rest assured that I'll keep the slang reeled in a bit so you can catch the good parts. And I won't drink before hand.

Outstanding D.U.I. on the Information SuperHighway since the summer of '78.

Dougie
01-12-03, 17:51
Originally posted by Ben Dover
Every girl "knows" someone who will let you use there apartment for a $10 fee. I would not recommend doing this as you don't know whats waiting for you there.

I have been to the apartments at the corner of Euclid and Michigan, both times with "Flaky Alice" and, so far, they have been safe. I have also been to an apartment on the alley that runs behind P&M's with Tamika and it too was kosher. One of the apartments on Euclid was owned by a married couple, a black guy and a white woman, so they had a vested interest in not causing trouble. Another one was owned by a black guy and, except for being a little cold (I think the gas had been turned off), it too was OK. the one on the alley was owned by another girl that works out of P&M's but I can't remember her name.

Dougie
01-12-03, 17:56
I went to Peking yesterday and had an interesting experience. The "usual" mamasan was not there and another woman who I have seen there before answered the door. Not a friendly reception at all from this one. I requested Kathy but she said Kathy was unavailable and fixed me up with one named Laura instead. Pretty face, nice tits, too many tattoos and a real lackluster performance. I will give a pass on here if she is offered to me the next time I go.

Ben Dover
01-14-03, 10:46
Sorry, I didn't mean to imply I had problems using an apartment.

I too have used them and garages for a ten spot around P & M.

While I have not had any trouble, I would not recommend it for new users who don't really know the scene or the area very well.

For them, I would follow a girl to a place once you know her and been with her in the car at least once.

Once you been hanging out there for a while, you pick out the regular girls and you will be fairly safe with them. Mabel kicks girls out of the bar who steal from her or cause trouble.

Clubking01
01-14-03, 11:50
Thanks for all of the info on P & M guys. Somehow, I would not feel comfortable going to a strange appartment in the area and probably would prefer the bj in the car, at least for a first time.

Warpig2000
01-15-03, 03:41
Bendover- Hate to say it but unless a girl has really f*cked up they tend to come back- Old Mabel has been getting rather senile lately. While her and her sons do screen out some of the riff raff I still maintain quality is going down at P&M's.

Dougie- If you happen to see Alice again tell her that her Tugboat 'sailor' friend says Hi. She'd probably remember me

Clubking- You actually have the right idea. Get a feel for the place, and let some of the ladies get to know you. Once they sense that you are a potential source of money they will go to good lengths to 'protect' their investment and keep you out of harms way. But don't feel afraid to walk in the establishment, people at P&M's know why you are there. LOL

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(almost forgot): KingGirlfriend- Yeah, I can totally relate to posting while intoxicated. LOL-doing so right now after a trip to Windsor Ontario (Canada) to meet with some 'escorts' and their clients who have a regular Karaoke night... that's a post for another forum. I've found that some of the ladies worry about their monthly vist from 'Aunt Flow' and we can only see the Ho's once her older son, 'Cash' Flow makes a vist our way. Well, I hope Cash comes your way soon, that you can treat the girls right yourself and get treated right in return. May you not lack for money or pussy in the months to cum...

hoodas
01-15-03, 12:02
First of all, I want to thank all of the posters here. I have been lurking around for quite some time, and all of your posts have really helped me.

I visited the legendary P&Ms for the first time yesterday. All that has been said on the forum about this place is so true! There were about 7-8 girls there. I hooked up with a Debbie - white, a little plum, probably low-mid 30s, she was there with her sister whose name I can't remember. Anyways, we worked out a deal for a BJ in my car for $20. I told her that all I wanted tonight was a BJ, but she kept trying to upsell (she was offering $50 for FS). We go to my car, drive to a nice quiet spot, and she starts performing her services. In the middle of the act (before completion), she asks for more money! I was really pissed off, I thought that we had already negotiated, and I had paid her the $20. She says if I want to cum, she will need another $20! Anyways, even though I was in kind of a compromising position, I did not give in and she did not finish the job.

I was kind of disappointed, but I will go again and try other girls. I also wanted to get to know the area before going to an apartment with one of the girls.

Is it OK to park behind the place? I parked back there and entered from the back door, but maybe thats only for employees?

gozzerman
01-15-03, 17:06
Don't you mean Carah Oke, saw her Sat 1/11. What a nice women! Find your posts on scorps and windsorescorts very educational. Keep up good work!

Warpig2000
01-15-03, 19:39
Hey Gozzerman- I will be shipping out again early next week. Feel free to backchannel me soon: warpig_y2k@yahoo.com if you want to meet at P&M's or something like that sometime.

Yes, Carah-oke was fun and Carah is an absolute sweetheart but if I say anything else about her on WSG people are going to think I am a shill for her. It's nice to know you can meet a couple of the ladies in a social setting just to have fun- Canada has got the states beat on some things, including having legal escorts (incall is still illegal due to their 'bawdy house rules').
For those here who want to check the threads on the Canadian scene see the Canada- Ontario threads, especially Windsor, Toronto, Niagra Falls...

kingGirlfriend
01-16-03, 01:01
Warpig2000, thanks for the kind words man. Yeah, I hope to be making the rounds soon over at Peking but that place takes a few extra. I've never been to P&M before and I'm a bit worried the girls might be too skanky for my tastes. Been going to Peking for years now and I'd rather hold out for the quality, but I've been tempted. Canada though... now that's something I gotta check into.

Kang G. Fren

gozzerman
01-17-03, 16:40
Warpig
Don't go to East Chicago often but will contact you when I do. Will be a Sat Early afternoon. Just love Windsor, hope to go back 2/14 0r 2/21. I'll buy you a Molson at Tom Foolery"s.Day trip only, 8 am/ 4PM. My schedule is always tight, but do love the ladies. Strip clubs in Windsor lacking , have you been to Roxy;s in East Saint Louis Ill? Girls are very pretty tho!

Johnny Rocket
01-18-03, 19:39
Hi all,

Went to Peking and had Miko. She was nice, pretty average. Next time I am going to try Kathy and then will give a more in-depth comparison.

I DATY with Miko and intend to do so with Kathy. Can anyone comment on the likelihood of getting an STD this way? I love to DATY but am I taking a big risk?

Happy and safe, everyone!

Schtick
01-19-03, 05:00
Johnny_rocket:

Stay safe. You need to take a good look at yourself. If you are DATY you are engaging in high risk behavior. No ifs ands or buts about it. I know how temptig it is to go downtown on a girl but you need to realize the risks.

By no means am I telling you how to live your life but for crying out loud be careful. These girls are working. How can you be sure some degenerate has not nutted in her twat before you decide to give her the oral orgasm of her life?

I know how great some of these girls are but you are not the only guy with a few bucks and a nut to blow! Be careful!

Food, (not pussy) for thoutht! Stay safe and let the girls take the risks.

P.S. I know I have offered very little to the hobby lately but I have been busy with work and home. I still enjoy the posts and info that is shared in this forum. Tax season is upon us an I hope to meet a few malcontent wives. Happens every year. I will be sure to share my enounters with all as they happen!

Take care and remember, "If you won't eat it don't f*** it"! God bless!

Warpig2000
01-19-03, 09:53
Hey Johnny_rocket.... would you mind sharing a description on Kathy, Miko, and the other Peking girls? Thinking of taking the plunge there soon after years in the neighborhood.... Thanks

Bukake
01-19-03, 15:34
Rocket Man, I am not the authority on matters of health and medicine, but I wouldn't be too worried about STD. However, DATY is not exactly a recommended practice when with a professional sex worker. When you were dining did you get a good look at her cooch. If you didn't see any sores you should be all right. If you did see a few questionable leesions, or blisters than god help you. Like I said though I don't recomend DATY.

Schtick good hearing from you. I'm thinking of going to P&M's. I am a little nervous about trying it out. I have never hobbied in that type of venue. It will be an experience. I'll keep you all posted.

tompetty
01-19-03, 17:08
im thimnking of hitting pms this week is that place still open and is noon ok to go???
I take I80 to cline
could someone help me out?

HappyGardener
01-20-03, 00:56
Y'know, after reading the NW Indiana posts for over a year now, I am always surprised by people posting about being afraid of going into P & M's.

It's a bar.

Just a plain old hole in the wall tavern.

You will not be knifed, accosted, hasseled, spat upon, hustled, (unless you allow that), drugged, have your pocket picked, or even killed.

What you will get. Entertained by the regulars playing pool and talking trash to each other. mabel in her wheelchair. A friendly smile form Tamika the bartender/BJ arranger. The same beer you get in any Illinois bar. Fair to middling bar girls who will hit you up for money for the jukebox, drinks, and sex.

Now, unless you have never been in a strip club, picked up a hooker, or been raised in a Bible Belt home, these things have happened to you before.

It s a bar. get over it.

PR*
01-20-03, 02:20
HappyGardner:

I agree with you for the most part on Pete & Mabel's. Most of the danger is just a figment of everyone's imagination. However, the first time I went in there, I didn't realize how out of place I looked - dress pants, nice shirt, etc. I was yelled at repeatedly by a couple of the fatter, uglier SWs in there. However, I was still able to hook up with a decent looking WSW (Megan).

The next time I went in I knew the drill, though. I made an effort to look a little more like the locals, walked in and acted like I had been going there every day of my life, and got what I wanted. I have never been nervous after that first time.

Also, the place stinks like piss. Don't let it take you by surprise.

PR*

HappyGardener
01-20-03, 09:19
PR*

I think if anyone takes the time to do a forum search on P & M's, then you should know what you are getting yourself in for. I agree with you on dress code. When I went in, I made sure I was dressed in jeans, sneakers, and a pretty plain shirt. But then again, i am a blue collar guy. No one is going to mistake me for a white collar executive. If someof these guys have driven past as many times as they say they have with out going in, then 1) they shouldn't be in the hobby, and 2) they should know what to expect and how to behave.

Bukake
01-20-03, 17:48
Happygardner: I apologize for being a bit apprehensive about going to P&M. Not all of us can be the utmost authority like yourself. I know you are a senior member of WSG, and have logged many more miles than all of us "newbies". Hey Jerk, this forum is to ask questions and gather information. That is what myself and others are doing. I am so sorry for annoying you or boring you with any questions or concerns some of us might have. If it bothers you than maybe your the one that should get over it. And if you got a problem with me I would be more than happy to discuss it further. Until then... Hasta La Bye Bye!!!

Schtick
01-21-03, 01:39
Let's everybody relax. While you both (Bukake/Happgardener) make excellent points and compelling arguements I don't think either of you gentlemen should concern yourselves with each other.

Bukake, although I understand where you are coming from Happygardener is correct. Do your homework. There is so much info regarding the stabbin cabbin called P& M. Spend some time and run throught the archives.

Happygardener, I agree with you in that some of these guys need to do their homework. Nobody has asked for info that has not already been shared in previous posts. Keep in mind you can always ignore such requests for info. Don't take this the wrong way, but no need to get pissy.

I myself have never been there. I did pay my first visit to Ace. Got fantastic lessons in French and closed out the session with a furious Greek lesson. It didn't last long but I felt like I had just run a marathon when I got done.

Probably paid too much but it was first time and I needed to leave satisfied. Good day all.

HappyGardener
01-21-03, 01:44
Ahh Bukake, how did I know you would immediately take it personal and head for the low road. This from the man who supposebly did a wife swap with a fellow poster and his escort. I thought you had some balls to do that.

My point is: why do the same questions keep getting asked? Why doesn't anyone use the forum search and spend time reading about P & M's? Every question about that place has been asked and answered 100 times over.

I guess I don't understand why everone is so fearful of the place. Have you ever read or heard one news report of people getting hurt there? Have you ever seen one person on this board post that they were afraid for their life there?

Granted this hobby is not for the timid. On the Chicago board, you thought that the A+ massage place was in a bad location and you wouldn't go there at night. Hmmm. If there are $450,000 homes one block away, in one of the trendiest areas of the city, where are the good locations.

HappyGardener
01-21-03, 01:58
Thank you Schtick.

I wasn't trying to be pissy, although it looks that way on the screen.
Just trying to allay the fears of people more than anything else.

You will not be asssaulted by SW's when you walk in the place.
You will not be taken for everything you have in your pockets.

I speak from experience on that point. I once had $50 taken from me in cover charge, drink fees, & tips in 15 minutes in a Korean clip joint in San Francisco.
It happened because I allowed it to happen.

HappyGardener
01-21-03, 16:22
"" I have put my penis in places you wouldn't put your feet.""


....Now that is something to be proud of.

HappyGardener
01-22-03, 10:42
I keep getting e-mails from people telling me to let this go,but I need to post something. This sophisticated traveler is actually posting from the sun-drenched city of Toledo Ohio. Yes folks, there is just celebraties everywhere here. I travel in some prettty high circles in some pretty high places. The San Fran post was not meant to show that I travel; it was meant to show that anyone can get ripped off anywhere, IF you allow it. BTW this happened while I lived in SF, not bragging that I was visiting there. Big Deal

I stopped at Pete & Mabels last night. There was one other white guy in there and he was dressed in a suit. He was talking and buying drinks for one of the girls. Everone else was working class blacks minding there own business talking to the ladies. I saw some bathroom action going down. And I got hit on by a Big BSW who really wanted to get her freak on. I told her no, and she asked me to buy her a drink at least. did that but I stopped the money flow after that when it was ciggerette money, juke box money etc. Just say no.

Bukake, there was absolutly nothing in my first post that mentioned you by name. It was an observation that after looking at these posts for a year, the same questions keep getting asked.

I am on somone elses computer so I can't find their dictionary function. If I could I would post the definition of Forum, which is a public place or medium used for discussion. The chicago thread about sexual addiction drew a big response because it obviously struck a nerve with several people. Obviously some like you found it boring,and some found it interesting. Any forum is going to have threads that appeal to some and then others.

You know, I won't even go into the statements about SWs being smacked around. Or the dick statement. I guess I feel sorry for your wife or SO.

OK, I am out of town for a few more days, so I won't be able to respond to this thread any more. Sorry for the typos; different keyboard. I am willing to drop this now and move on to more productive threads.

horndog77
01-23-03, 19:05
Anyone have any info about Elkhart? I know of two AMP's in Elkhart. One is called New Image Spa and the other is the Simonton Lake Spa. I tried New Image awhile back and had subpar service with a forty something mamasan. Has the scene at this AMP changed? Also, I've been wanting to try the Simonton Lake Spa, but I want to get some more opinions about the place first. For instance, what are the girls like in terms of looks, attitude, price, and services offered? One more thing, anyone know of any other action (i.e. AMP's, SW's, SP's, etc.) around the Elkhart/Goshen area? I have seen what looks to be an AMP on Lincolnway in Goshen just a little ways past the Goshen High School. I don't know if this place is legit or if a massage with happy ending can be had there. Thanks in advance for any info. Please either share the info here or back channel me at valentinox77@yahoo.com That goes for any ladies out there as well. ;)

SamaRy
01-24-03, 08:57
Originally posted by SouthBurbs
Given that the forum has digressed to assorted flames, I have not been out to state line or gary in quite a while and was wondering if it'd be worth it.

I have not found a thing.... been crusing IL. lately....

buttman
01-24-03, 21:45
Took a field trip today to the book store in Gary across from airport. Isnt much of a book store. When you enter they ask if you want a private show..I said yes they give you 3 prices 1 song 20 2songs 40 and 3 for 50..I took the 2 song deal..Had to give girl 2 dollars more for songs. I selected a girl named Honey(real original name) She is 35 alittle chubby but not fat..had big boobs and nice nipples. Well we get behind the curtain and I immediately asked what else I could get. Without hesitating she said head is 40 full service 80..I gave her 40 and got an excellant job...bare back....She is worth the trip. Only I think the 20 40 and 50 entrance fee I would just go with the 20.Apparently that is the owners cut. There are signs on the wall advertising special shows like bi etc. Its alittle ran down inside but the service was very friendly...and with cameras in parking lot...I felt safe....I went during the day. I think at nite they may have more customers, I went at noon and was the only one there...It aint Peking but it beats Pete and Mabels. and the prices are not outrageous. Be interested in hearing from others who try this place. If you go before 6 PM try Honey she is worth the trip and she speaks english.

kingGirlfriend
01-25-03, 14:27
Way to go buttman! Hey, did you get to see what the other chicks over there looked like?

Johnny Rocket
01-25-03, 16:27
Originally posted by Schtick
Johnny_rocket:

By no means am I telling you how to live your life but for crying out loud be careful. These girls are working. How can you be sure some degenerate has not nutted in her twat before you decide to give her the oral orgasm of her life?Yeah, but every guy at an AMP has got to wear a condom. I mean no way I'd ever eat out a SW, but if every guy's used a rubber then how could she have an STD? The chances are very remote.

Also, I do always inspect her **** before I go down. If there's even a hint of sores or problems, then no way do I stick my tongue in there! It's not that hard to tell sores from razor bumps. But I don't like razor bumps either because I prefer **** natural and unshaven. Especially Asian ****.

To the other poster who asked about the Peking girls:

Miko is nice, haven't been with Kathy. May do that in the coming 2 weeks. The one who left after New Years' was GREAT. In October I had a girl, don't remember her name, who was very rushed and didn't even pretend like she enjoyed it. I can't remember her name. I am bad with names. Next time I will pay more attention. Sorry about that.

Anyone who's been to Peking in the past 2 weeks have an update? Any new girls, anyone who's left?

Ivy
01-26-03, 00:39
Hello all
I have been in the swinging lifestyle for a few years. This foursome thing is partly why people in the swinging lifestyle get a bad rep. Tricking someone isn't cool. No offense to the one that was wronged.

Just my opinion....

Horndog57
01-27-03, 15:20
Just wanted to add my two cents on the bookstore across from the Gary airport. I went in this past Saturday around 1-2 pm. The only girl I saw was Honey who was described pretty good before. She does have several tats on her body a real nice looking one on the small of her back. Prices are as described before 20 for one dance 40 for two and 50 for three and would be nude. In back she did quote 40 for head and 80 for FS took her up on the FS but had to provide my own condom. Pretty good but you are limited because of the surroundings. Only one chair behind a curtain. She did tell me she lives in the same town that I do so maybe next time I'll see if she would be willing to see me on the side and save the house fee. About a week or two ago went to Peking Spa and saw Kathy, she is quite good and is more of a GFE but then again you get what you pay for. As far as P&M goes I have picked up three different girls there over the past year, but none of them were more then a 3. I have been there 3-4 more other times and have always been offered but none of the girls did anything for me. I might not have the highest standards but I do have some. Also picked up a WSW on 20 just past the hotel named Tracy got a bbbj for $20 but she wasn't that great either. Also about a year ago I went to the Shangrala across from the hotel on 20 and got a bj for I want to say around $100. Peking is still the best but be prepared to spend $200 but if you just want to pop a nut the place across from the airport isn't bad I would be interested in any other girls who work there. Also the 2 bi/girl thing would be real interesting. Stay safe.

Scooter
01-27-03, 15:35
Hey everyone!

Well I finally went and checked the bookstore by the airport on my lunch today. I don't think it opened til about 12:30 even thought the sign says 11. Went in about 12:45, there was a very old greek or italian man mopping up, and then a sort of dumpy, but cute in a way red-headed girl came up to me and asked if i wanted a private dance. Same prices as the previous post on this place mentioned, plus the 2 dollars for music. We went to the back room, she started and I asked about extras. SHe told me yes for a tip so I said how much of a tip. SHe told me $40. I said fine. Well, all I got was a hand job through my jeans and she didn't even totaly strip. When I left there were 2 more girls there, I assume the blondish one was Honey so I plan on going back after work. There was also a black girl in there who wasn't too bad looking. I really think that this place has potential.

--Scooter

No1nose
01-27-03, 18:58
I have a question? Is anyone as sick of hearing about this as me? Both parties are wrong in this case and its is just another reason not to trust people. If someone you didn't know on the net said "Give me 100 dollars and I will give you 200 hundred back." You wouldnt give it to them but yet some guy says give me your wife and I will give you mine and you are so suprised he played you. The risks in that are the same as the risks in this whole hobby. Bottom line is if both of you practiced safe sex you would have nothing to worry about and no one would get hurt except maybe some egos. Instead of laying the blame on others take a look in the mirror and think is the risk/ reward worth it? IF you say "yes" then you have to deal. By know means am I saying I'm an angel but if I have risky contact with someone and then (knock on wood ) I got something their would be no one to blame but MYSELF. Now can we PLEASE PLEASE move on. If anything I think you taught everyone on this forum a lesson. When it comes to getting laid and this hobby, you can trust no one. OK I'm done now lets move on.

Stay safe Happy hunting .

PoorKuntryBoy
01-27-03, 23:08
Hey,

Anybody got an address of this bookstore in Gary? Or directions, a name? Hours open? I checked the previous posts and found nada! From Scooter's post, this place seems like the late lamented Mickey's Roll & Roll in Hammond.

Ivy
01-27-03, 23:19
You each added alot of interesting points. It seems there was dishonesty on both sides. Granted a sex worker is a sex worker. I agree we should be treated with comman courtesy and respect.

I do feel that lying to your wife is worse than lying to someone about rather someone is a SW or a escort. There is a chance she may need tested. I am not saying any one has anything, but it is best to safe than sorry. Safety didnt appear to matter.

I also feel there is a bit of looking down on someone who is a SW. Why is that? SWs are sex workers like the rest of us. Not every online escort is perfect. Alot are just able to hide things, such as drug problems easier than the ones who are SWs because of the internet. They have time to hide things before a "date", unlike a SW who cant. Also, just because online escorts are more high priced doesnt always mean they are worth it, just like a SW who provides poor service.

I dont see why revenge is neccesary. I think you should be more angry with yourself for lying to your wife. You put her at risk by agreeing to this situation and lying to her.


I also agree it is best to know the people pretty well before hooking up for a foursome. It is best to have some trust developed first.

Btw, did you know you can check something by someone going down on you? No offense, but I hope your wife didnt check anything by Erica DATY.

Oh yes, before I forget to mention what someone asked about. My friend is from a neighboring state. The weather keeps delaying us from meeting. I am looking around for someone to help me with the site. I am a bit web page illiterate. All the HTML codes tests my patience...:)

Ivy

Scooter
01-28-03, 08:31
Hello Everyone!

Just a follow up to my second trip to the bookstore by the gary airport yesterday. I went back after work and when I walked in the short , well-stacked blond, named Honey asked if I was there for a private dance. I said yes and bought 2 for $40. She took me to the little back room. As soon as she started I asked if there were extras and she said yes and asked what I wanted. Well...stupid me didn't bring a condom with so I couldn't go for the full service for $80, instead I got a wonderful BBBJ for $40. She was really into it and it was super. I think this place is owned by Greeks or Italians. Hopefully the selection of girls will be good in there. Hope it keeps up. Happy Hunting!

--Scooter

Big D
01-28-03, 11:21
Scooter,
Like Kuntry, I would like an address for this bookstore. At minimum, could you describe, with some specificity, where it is? I am not that familiar with Gary, so from the expressways would be great.

By the way, no1nose, thanks for regaling us all with BOTH of your useful posts. Just don't read what doesn't interest you, and DO NOT criticize others if you have not contributed useful information.

Scooter
01-28-03, 13:22
Hey Guys!

I am not sure of an exact address of the place. It is located in what used to be Club Topps. It is on Rt.12 also known as Industrial Highway. I beleive the building is a light green colour now. It is not too far from the Gary Airport sort of on a wierd corner/intersection. Next time I go I will get more specifics. Yes, it does put me in the mind of Mickeys. The only draw back is that they seem to only have once dance room. And to be honest I am not sure how sturdy the chair is in there for full service!

Happy Hunting!

--Scooter

buttman
01-28-03, 20:06
Scooter that sure sounds like Honey that you had. I was wondering where the full service window would be myself...I did notice a couple of other doors when I came in. She sure doesnt hesitate about giving BBBJ...I asked her if she might be concerned about getting a disease...she responded..oh I dont do this for everybody....what the hell did that mean....But she does get into it...and has no problem with a person doing hand and finger exploration...

Dougie
01-28-03, 20:58
Originally posted by Horndog57
Peking is still the best but be prepared to spend $200 but if you just want to pop a nut the place across from the airport isn't bad......

My monger math puts FS from some tattooed local **** in a chair behind a curtain at the place across from the airport at $130, correct. How then is $200 for the whole works from an oriental hottie in a nice room anything but a good deal by comparison?? I guess if you could work out an off hours deal to avoid the ridiculous "cover charge" it might be in the ballpark but $130 for a quickie in a chair from a glorified SW is hardly my idea of a good value.

Dougie
01-28-03, 21:16
Originally posted by johnny_rocket
Yeah, but every guy at an AMP has got to wear a condom. I mean no way I'd ever eat out a SW, but if every guy's used a rubber then how could she have an STD? The chances are very remote.

Johnny, never had one of those things break on you?? I have, not very often, but in 25+ years in the hobby it has happened a few times. I wonder if anyone ever came along behind me with a taste for fresh fish and got chowder instead. :^O~~~

Seriously, DATY with a pro is probably not a good idea. I would not even consider it but if you have a real fetish about it you might want to consider actually carrying around your favorite flavor disposable douche and ask the girl to use it before you belly up to the buffet. I suspect the girls at Peking would be happy to accomodate you. It won't protect you protect you from STDs but it might keep you from being grossed out.

Schtick
01-28-03, 21:44
Gang, I went to the bookstore in Gary and had Honey as well. $40 for some Bareback French. She let her finger wander into my ass and worked my prostate some. It was nice. I tipped her ten for the finger work.

Dougie, what does that abbreviation stand for? I checked the Terms and abbreviations and there is no definition.

hoodas
01-28-03, 22:32
ROFLMAO - Rolling On (the) Floor Laughing My Ass Off!

alphafield
01-29-03, 02:18
Guys, I have checked out the old Club Tops by the airport several times in the last few months, and everytime I went by, it was closed. That shack looked promising though, and now I read these posts about french lessons!......

My visits were usually 11pm and much much later, after hitting the casino. What time do they close?

-Af-

HappyGardener
01-29-03, 10:59
The old Club Topps now bookstore is visible from the tollway.
It is difficult to find if you have never been there.

Take any exit for the airport coming from the east or the west. Can't remember the exact exit numbers, but they are in the teens. As long as you are on Hwy 12 you will pass it. If headed east, you will pass the airport on your right and then the bookstore will be on your left just before the road curves. The bookstore is not in the city part of Gary, but just outside of town.
One story run down building with a lot of flags in the parkinng lot at least as of last week.

PoorKuntryBoy
01-30-03, 04:31
Hey all,

I found the bookstore - thanks for for the directions everybody. I got there around 8PM. There were two "dancers" on duty, a chunky white girl with big tits named Laurie, and a black girl named Tiffany. I had private dances with both of them. Just private dances, nothing else and believe me I asked! The most I was offered was a chance at stinky finger for $20. If I had just wanted a private dance I could've gone to one of the locals strip clubs and gotten a better dance from better looking women, although Tiffany was very cute and gave a decent dance, but Laurie could benefit from some soap or deodorant. I may try again at an earlier time, but for me this joint held no joy.

Chief_Wiggum
02-01-03, 03:00
Hey all, long time reader, rare poster (you guys have more info than me anyway)...

Anyway, I caught the recent postings of the Adult Bookstore on Rt 12 (easiest to take 94 E to 912N to 12 E. That should be right. Basically, go to Gary airport from Chicago, and you're going to pass the airport. It's going to be on the left. I went and saw Tiffany and Laurie. I had a dance w/Tiffany. Tiffany is black, chubby, slightly shaved, nice C/D breasts. About a 6 on the SW (4-5 in real life) scale. A bit bucked-toothed. Laurie, is a chore to look at. She's like a 3 on the SW scale. She looks like a crack *****, and I don't think I've ever seen one, except, she's like 60 lbs overweight and has like cottage cheese in the stomach. Someone tell me that Honey is better than these two... Tiffany works like 4p-12am almost everyday. I didn't even bother talking to Laurie >shudder<.

So I got a two song dance w/Tiffany. .4 (I should've put out the extra $10). Ask for extras from her; her first offering was nude for .2, even though she showed me her breasts and I got my hands down her pants (wasn't easy). I countered w/.4 for BJ. She wanted to get a condom and wanted .5. I said she doesn't need one, and she said all right. Right before she started she told me not to bust a nut in her mouth. I asked why not, and she said she never does it. I'm a nice guy, so I didn't. Don't anyone sit on the roll of carpet in the main room. The BBBJs I've had are always around a 9. My theory is that BB can never be below a nine. Unfortunately, Tiffany busted my theory. Arguably, it was a really weak BJ. I think she was scared of the one-eyed monster. I almost didn't finish the second song, but she was 98% all hands. Fortunately, she allowed all access to her body and was kind enough to suck on my chest.

The place is a joke of an adult video parlor. Does Pete and Mabel's look like this place? Are the girls better than Tiffany? Exactly where is this place? I tried looking for it, but I needed to gamble (make up my losses from the experience, luckily, I hit it big again). W/my new found wealth, I wanted to try P&Ms. I couldn't find it, but I didn't look very long. I have thought about going to IS as they are, imo, the best SC in the tri-state area (this one in Kokomo is a close second). But, I was tired, and I haven't eaten. Do any strippers at IS work outside the club? I would love to get some extras at the place, even if it is only breast play.

Johnny Rocket
02-02-03, 00:15
Hi All,

I visited Peking a couple of days ago. Finally met Kathy.

OH MY GOD. She is HOT. Good grief. Nice large A/small B tits. Flawless skin. Pussy a bit on the hairy side compared to many Koreans but I dug it.

Her massage was GREAT. I mean really enjoyable and relaxing. She gave it after we fucked though which was different. She gave a little bit of a massage beforehand, it wasn't much, and then we went at it, so I figured that was all the massage I was going to get that day. I was surpirsed when the massage resumed after the fucking.

I hadn't planned to DATY, especially after what's been said on this board, but she was so nice and sweet and beautiful and I just had to. She was hesitant to really get into it but after a while I had her going and she came. Who knows, maybe that's why I got the extra massage afterward.

The mamasan hurried her up just as she finished the massage and I was getting dressed, but it was a busy time so I understand.

WELL worth the $200. I hope to go back this week.

Happy Chinese New Year everyone!

macaroni
02-03-03, 22:37
Johnny,

I'm glad that you finally were able to experience Kathy. She is HOT isn't she!?! She has been there for a long time at least one year although she goes to CAli once in a while. She must be a big money maker for them in order for her not being moved around. I had her and her friend Yumi both giving me a massage once--that was something else---that was all it was was a massage though. Everytime I've been with Kathy, its the same treatment as well, dessert first then the massage. She does do an excellent job taking her time, never rushed, even when they are busy. I used to go about half a year ago and alternate from Kathy to Yumi to "PINK" and there was some sort of animosity between pink and the other two. Pink used to do insane things to me to make me melt---what is the proper term for tossing salad? I'm not too hip on the lingo in here and am somewhat embarrassed to ask---but now I am. Peking is still the best bet around if your ready to blow two bills. There is a newer girl at the AMP in Michigan City named Paula that is attractive, mid to early 30's. When I asked her how old she was, she told me 200--shes damn hot for 200 y/o. I've been with her twice and did a great massage but only wanted missionary and had a hard time with my size-----13 shoe. In anycase, she is much better than most of the girls that have been in Michigan City.

Chief_Wiggum
02-05-03, 21:32
TR - went to Club Topps or whatever it's called by Gary Airport. Just won another ton of money, this time at Harrah's. It's like 2 pm, and I just got done gambling for like 6 hours. I see three chicks, this big black girl (didn't catch her name), ugly Laurie and Honey. Honey is a lot older than I expected, 40 at least, or a tough 35 years. She's big and she's supposed to be dieting. She's not that big, definitely chunky. Fake nails, but great rack, well great considering the condition of the rest of her body. Big, a bit saggy, but more solid than saggy. She's about a 5, face is worse, luckily the dance area is dark. Oh, there's at least 2 dance areas. .4 for BBJCTC (though a lot of hand action), she didn't even flinch. All access to all holes. How does Honey compare to the P&M girls? Didn't have time to check it out. Her lap dance was ok at best, she said her foot is broken. She's very accommodating and took out the little general without even asking.

Johnny Rocket
02-06-03, 01:55
Went to Peking again today. Miko wasn't there and Kathy was busy, unfortunately. I considered waiting for Kathy but the mamasan said they had a couple of new girls. So I said, what the hell, at least this will make for a good WSGForum report. :)

I got a girl named "Fink." I am not sure if this is "Pink," because I never met Pink. Maybe I didn't understand the mamasan. Anyway, it was a real letdown after Kathy. But then, who wouldn't be? I can deal with the fact that she's not as attractive. (The lowdown: Smaller tits than Kathy, pussy shaved to a small fuzzy patch, a bit older, probably early 30s, fae not as good.) But attitude is everything, and she had a bad one. She wanted everything to be over quickly. Her massage involved a lot of slapping and pinching and was generally rough. She said I was too fat, which I am a bit overweight, especially compared to the size of these girls, but for heaven's sake, don't tell the customers that. By contrast, Kathy said she liked me because I was soft. I don't know if that was the truth but it was nice to hear. Also, while I am quite sure that Kathy came, Fink I think was faking (I didn't DATY with her though so it's tougher, but faking is so insulting).

Macaroni: Thanks for the info! Tossing the salad is technically known as anilingus.

Happy and safe, everyone!

PoorKuntryBoy
02-06-03, 04:23
Hey all,

I went to Peking last week to see Kathy. I saw her sometime last summer, and she was awesome, great looking and enthusiastic. However, the girl who the mamasan brought when I asked for Kathy wasn't the Kathy I saw last year. This Kathy wore braces was a bit younger and had smaller breasts; the Kathy I remember was mid-30s and might have had breast implants and been originally from Texas (I just love girls from down south). Is this Kathy, with braces, the one who everybody is raving about right now?

I was disappointed and ready to leave, but new Kathy insisted that I look at another girl. Another girl turned out to be Tammi, who isn't quite Kathy (Texas) in the looks department - nice ass though, but she certainly seemed very enthusiastic. I got the full deal and I wasn't let down. Tammi was very, very enthusiastic, which counts a lot in my book. I think the mamasan knocked on the door to signal the end of our session, which didn't seem to be quite an hour - and I thought the full package was an hour - but Tammi didn't rush me at all.

macaroni
02-06-03, 11:03
Hey Kuntry Boy,

The Kathy that I'm thinking of is the girl with the braces and she is from the south. South Korea that is!

Mac

Flashman
02-09-03, 22:55
Hey Johnny Rocket,

I should have noted your last post on Peking.

Had one of worst visits there, with "Pink". I assume that this is the "Fink" you reviewed. She said she has been there for two weeks.

In a hurry, no personality, nothing to look at. Terrible technique. Way below average at Peking.

Would recommend walk out if she is all that is available.

Johnny Rocket
02-10-03, 01:12
Originally posted by flashman
Hey Johnny Rocket,

I should have noted your last post on Peking.

Had one of worst visits there, with "Pink". I assume that this is the "Fink" you reviewed. She said she has been there for two weeks.

In a hurry, no personality, nothing to look at. Terrible technique. Way below average at Peking.

Would recommend walk out if she is all that is available.

Sounds about right. A waste of $200. I like the review of Tammi though. She sounds great. Anybody else met Tammi? I may have to go back for a little visit. I am stretching that student budget pretty thin right now... :)

Slim
02-10-03, 15:09
Rocket,

I've seen Tammie before, she was actually my first at Peking.

She was pretty hot looking, but I wasn't that crazy about the performance, perhaps she just didn't like me. She wouldn't allow any DATY or even touching down there for that matter, all I could do was stick it in.

She did suck on my nips and was generally friendly otherwise. The massage was OK, but nothing great. She had bruises on her ass, it seems she must like being smacked on the butt a bit. My next time there two weeks later (I had to go back, thinking that there must be better!) and I got Ruby so perhaps my view was screwed up after having Ruby. Ruby was MUCH better. Did Ruby really go back home? I haven't been back to Chicago in a while to find out.

- Slim

macaroni
02-10-03, 18:49
Sorry to hear about your bad experiences with PINK. I haven't seen her there in months and just assumed that she had left. The times I was with her was back in the summer maybe even the spring. I told you guys that there was some sort of animosity between her and the others so maybe her life just sucks at Peking and thats relfected in her attitude towards customers. The way you are describing her, thats her. She was in her mid to early 30's not nearly as hot as some of the others there, a wide full face small tits. I'll tell you though, it was the best damn time I had at Peking. She was SUPER enthusiatic---kick ass massage, did all sorts of things that I've never had done to me at Peking, extra long massage---just stellar. Next time I go, I'll request her to see whats up. From my experience and from what this forum says though, Kathy is the ticket.

Johnny Rocket
02-11-03, 04:42
Slim: I've been warned in general not to DATY. Sometimes I do at Peking though. With Kathy I couldn't resist.

I think it's pretty definite that Ruby is gone. I never met her, which is a shame.

Anyone have any more info about Tammi, particularly about her attitude? There are a couple of conflicting reports and if she's any good I'd like to meet her.

Happy and safe, everyone!

DB*
02-11-03, 05:22
I'd have to agree with johnny rocket & flashman's review on "Pink." A real letdown. I was rushed and out of there in about 30 minutes. Dissapointing to say the least.

Several months ago, there was another "Pink" at Peking. She appeared to be in her mid-twenties, wore pink shoes and had a GREAT attitude. I remember her well because she thanked me for coming in several times while we did it. She ended by offering a can of coke and stuffed an apple in my coat pocket for the trip home. One of Peking's best in my opinion.

I don't know Tammie or Kathie but Miko I'd recommend. She's not only there to please but is also an interesting woman to talk to.

DB

Slim
02-11-03, 10:47
Rocket:

I agree, I don't DATY anymore, but I do go down there just to see if it would be allowed and with Tammie she just said "I don't like it". But as everyone knows in this forum YMMV big time. I just remember leaving after having Tammy and thinking "boy, if she wasn't so hot, that would have been a waste of $$." But I really think we just didn't click.

I can't wait to try kathy. Actually I've asked for Kathy every time I've gone and she is never there.

- Slim

macaroni
02-11-03, 11:45
DB,

That clears things up big time. Pink was a petite girl that wore pink and had a great attitude. Did it all from top to bottom. I never did get an apple but did get listerine and some candy ;) We must all be talking about two different "Pinks" or maybe the one is FINK.

SamaRy
02-11-03, 17:44
Originally posted by macaroni
We must all be talking about two different "Pinks"

I have had both PINKS! The new one SUCKS! Well actually just her rushed attitude does!!!!

The other (original) was much better, Miko is great! and damn, the kathy I had the other night was not the same one that I was hoping was back....... Oh well.....

Happy AMPinking......

Bobc31
02-11-03, 18:03
Back on 12/10 at 14:18 Scooter posted his experience with the Seoul Spa in Munster. Has anybody else been there since and had better results?

Dougie
02-11-03, 20:44
Originally posted by PoorKuntryBoy

Is this Kathy, with braces, the one who everybody is raving about right now?

KuntryBoy, you totally missed the boat on your trip to Peking. The girl with the braces IS the Kathy that everybody raves about. Kind of tall, light skin, eyes a little rounder than most of the other girls, looks young in the face. Next time if she is the one the mamasan rolls out for you jump on her like stink on shit, you will not be disappointed.

secsvr
02-11-03, 20:48
hello all, been along time since last post but i have followed all leads that have been here some in the chicago board and have found new ones to post about:

Peiking, had pink too the reviews about being rushed are dead on. She isnt very pretty either and in reality I was very dissapointed. I very much want to have kathy, but the mammasan never comes to the door for me, the girl does....how do i refuse that?

A+ massage in chicago, it is just off the exit right after North ave on 94, this place has the whole AMP thing but is all spanish/black girls. The service isnt "full" but it is refreshing to have some one you can understand. the have a website spell out A+ with massagethearpy and add a dot com. The girls in person look very much better than their pictures.

The AMP on calument in valpo does it all for 70 dollar house fee and a bill for tip, there is a girl named lisa that is a tad bit older, but is very energetic about what she does, the other one angie is timid and a little overweight but fun none the less.

ANOTHER AMP in valpo on the north side of linconway right down town very near "round the clock" has always served a handy finish and is cheap compared to the rest, under a bill for the whole trip, I have only had one lady older mid fourties but very nice rack......not big or small, just an overall good rack....she does the whole shy thing, but she will hook it up.

Gary Airport thing....Smells funny, looks funny kinda shady not a very good place, but did get full service from the younger black girl and she handed over numbers and emails, there is only one room here and when i went there was a line, so it was weird all these guys standing around....like i mentioned shady..

The shengra la on 20 always serves up an experiance.....one girl went down on me in the back for nothing more than a "I might get a dance" got the dance and had more fun in the back....

Honey's the new club next to the rising sun is hit and mis.....one time a BBJ, another a HJ and a few others "we dont do that" oh well....was fun none the less

secsvr
02-11-03, 20:54
Hit the post on accident....sorry the first post is below, this is the second in what we will call a series.

There has been some intreaging adds in the times....in sports, anyone checked out these things or any other leads from the paper?

I drive from work everyday down melton, and the SW action has ceased.....about two months a go there was a little 23-24 year old, named felicity anyone else see here? Know were to find her? I know that hotel is going on, one time I even saw a HOT blond big boobs and all, but I missed her on the turn around. Anyone know about that stuff?

The question I have to pose is.....were is the higest quality around? I would like info on that whole escort thing too, i have yet to try that.....thanks in advance......me

SamaRy
02-12-03, 10:25
Originally posted by bobc31
Back on 12/10 at 14:18 Scooter posted his experience with the Seoul Spa in Munster. Has anybody else been there since and had better results?

I had a really bad experience there some time around there.. and even though I told my friend not to do it, he went a couple of weeks ago... as he was being thrown out, he saw the man looking at the video of the whole thing.. Cameras in each room, very legit, or so that is all I have heard about....

SamaRy
02-12-03, 10:30
SecSvr, wow lots of posts.... Gotta love it... I agree on all but the


Originally posted by secsvr
The shengra la on 20 always serves up an experiance.....one girl went down on me in the back for nothing more than a "I might get a dance" got the dance and had more fun in the back....


Could never get any good experience there? How good was it? Should I give it another try?


Anyone know of any EMP or non-AMP that does do FS?

Flashman
02-12-03, 11:54
SecSvr

Good post's, good info.

Regarding Pink and Peking.

If the mama san does not greet you, just ask the girl greeting you her name, before she leads you to the room.

If she says Pink or Fink or anything that sounds similiar, I would ask to see Kathy, or another name from this board, or just walk out if she refuses.

Believe me, you will be sorry if you go ahead with Pink. Total waste of money for a very bad experience.

Don't get me wrong about Peking. Overall excellent staff and worth the $$$. All the more reason to refuse Pink.

Johnny Rocket
02-12-03, 18:27
Someone else asked about this... is there any AMP-style place with non-Asian girls? Aside from going for high-priced escorts or SWs?

Just trying to diversify a bit. :)

Member #1974
02-13-03, 19:24
This site rocks. Thank you all! Anyone have any good info on Vivea spa on 30 in Hobart? Thanks

PoorKuntryBoy
02-14-03, 07:39
dougie, not to be contrary, but the Kathy I met last year was totally hot, stripper-quality body with maybe fake tits, and she talked dirty. I've seen some girls at the Peking who've played it demure when they first meet you. Not Kathy. From the first time I saw her she knew why both of us were there. I'd put my Kathy at the very top of my amp experience. I may give the current Kathy a try, though, considering the raves. The last time I was there I was brought the much mentioned Pink - I was told Tammie is currently on vacation. I passed on Pink, although I usually don't pass whenever I get a chance at 'pink.'

On another subject, I went back to the bookstore. I was hoping to see Honey, but she wasn't there. Laurie was there with a BIG black girl, who's name I don't remember. While I was there a couple of guys came and got dances -- short ones! I don't think I'll be back. If this joint had more girls, better looking girls, and better accomodations I'd consider return visits. But I refuse to pay that much to get a piss poor lap dances from some skanks who give skanks a bad name, not when I could go to any of the local strip clubs and get better dances from women who look, and smell better, or just go to the Peking.

And the hunt goes on...

Cool_Hand_Luke
02-14-03, 14:05
So, I'm heading up north this weekend to the elkhart area. Anyone give any positive or negative reports on any good massage parlors there? Thanks

Ampert
02-14-03, 16:14
gijoe,

Used to go to vivea year ago after golfing down the road.some good, some bad. if the ladies are old(past40) forget about it. vivea was the first place i met a girl named sue. sue was very skinny but was alot a fun. she later worked in lombard,il. at a place called dandlion.

Red734
02-14-03, 16:28
After reading about the old Club Topps, I ventured out Wednesday afternoon. 45 minute drive from Chicago burbs to see only one girl, Laurie, working. Didn't find attractive, but after the drive, I figured what was the harm. Looked at a few movies and motioned to her for a dance. 2 for $40.....asked for extras which she said she's not supposed to...asked for a $40 BJ....she didn't say a word. After a minute or so, unzipped my pants and surprisingly gave me a BBBJTC......was shocked that she swallowed.

Though she wasn't the greatest....pretty good value for something quick.

What's the theater all about? Does Saturday get wild with couples and theater sex like in Florida? That would be wild.

Also...Pete & Mabel's? I've never heard of this....similar to Club Topps? Would love to hear some info and where it is....love this sleazy action.....Chicago is repressed!!!

I'll be around,
Red

Flashman
02-15-03, 15:37
newbee Red

Use forum search or check the archives to see much about pete and mabels, which is probably the most talked about place on this page. Same for peking spa, lot of posts here.

Horndog57
02-15-03, 18:58
Stop by the book store by the airport in Gary today around 1pm for some reason it was closed. I also saw where Honey's out on rt20 was raided earlier this week. Does anyone know if the same happened with the Bookstore.

hoodas
02-18-03, 10:54
I checked out the bookstore by the airport yesterday around 7PM. There were two black girls working, a younger one who seemed kind of snobby and the girl that I got, a little on the heavy side, her name is "b". I got two dances $40, plus $40 for BBBJ, not to completion though. Decent service, not the greatest body but good attitude. She was a little worried and kept on asking if I was a cop and that if she gets caught doing this she will get fired. I didn't like the setup for the private dance area though. "b" said she works everyday around that time except for sundays.

No1nose
02-18-03, 13:42
Was Wondering If anyone knows if the Airport Bookstore is stiill open was thinking of making the trip from the city, I would be awfully disappointed if I get there and it wasnt opened. Called the number for the place and all I get is the voicemail saying it is open daily. Anyone ben there lately ? Thanks for the help. Sounds like Honey is still the one to see.

The nose knows

Ben Dover
02-18-03, 14:44
I was at the book store about a week ago and there was a chunky black girl and a real ugly white girl. I got a dance and BJ from the black one.

Has anyone tried to order both at the same time?

stevealluna
02-18-03, 22:34
I stopped by Sun Spa in Michigan City last night. I havent been there in a couple of months and since Paula isnt there anymore i got a massage from June. She is around 36..37ish with a very nice tight petite body. I had a good time and she provided FS. I'll probably pop back in there next time i roll thru MC.

hoodas
02-19-03, 11:50
Originally posted by no1nose
Was Wondering If anyone knows if the Airport Bookstore is stiill open was thinking of making the trip from the city, I would be awfully disappointed if I get there and it wasnt opened. Called the number for the place and all I get is the voicemail saying it is open daily. Anyone ben there lately ? Thanks for the help. Sounds like Honey is still the one to see.

The nose knows

Hey no1nose, I don't think my previous post 'posted' before your post so maybe my last post answered some of your questions. I was just there Monday, 2/17 around 7PM and the place was open. Don't know about Honey though, there were two other girls working when I was there. Let us know how it goes if you visit.

kingGirlfriend
02-20-03, 19:52
Gentlemen,

Yeah I guess I'll put my two cents in even though it's all been said before. I feel like such a dork. About a week or so ago I made a plummage to Peking and was greeted at the door by Pink. Now I kinda figured it out right away but felt for whatever reasons to go along. I'm not a harsh judge on people personally, she was cute, short, maybe a bit older. Her face wasn't all that but by no means a car accident, just a bit low quality by Peking standards. Her massage was allright, she put her heart into but her hands are so tiny it didn't add-up. She blew me. The end. Again nothing real special. I hope to make rounds again soon but will definitely opt for whomever else. A bj is a bj and I don't argue but if your going for FS I'd drop a quick buck. Has anybody been there lately? How's the allstar line-up looking. The ones they got riding bench are foul.

Kang G. Fren

buttman
02-20-03, 23:34
I too made a trip to Peking, had Kim. She is 28 compact and cute.
She was good but alittle too much groaning for me. I am sure I wasnt that exciting for her. But it was worth the trip. I like smaller natural boobs and she fit the bill. Had FS but dont try to finger her butt she doesnt like that....everything else she is cool with.
All in all I rate the visit as a 9. I notice more traffic at the other Gary Video place on 51 and 20..Its fairly new maybe 6 months havent heard any reports...so I will do some investigative reporting...

SamaRy
02-21-03, 00:14
Originally posted by kingGirlfriend
Gentlemen,

Has anybody been there lately? How's the allstar line-up looking. The ones they got riding bench are foul.

Kang G. Fren

Kang... Had Kathy last week... not the original but a great personality... Going tonight to see if there is anyone worth...... Will report l8tr

Dougie
02-21-03, 17:55
Originally posted by PoorKuntryBoy
dougie, not to be contrary, but the Kathy I met last year was totally hot...

Sorry I missed her, maybe "kathy" is korean for "hot". And "pink" is korean for "stuck up ****".

macaroni
02-21-03, 19:00
Hey Guys,

Stopped by AMP in M.C. and took one for the team. I had "Sunny" who was probably 40 y/o. I asked if June was there and she said she was busy. I figured what the hell, I need a massage anyhow. She showered me down and then put me in the sauna for what seemed 30 seconds. She then gave me an OK massage and finished things off with a HJ. A little tension was released but I won't do it again. I'd like to check out June next time.

ChicagoBoy23
02-22-03, 21:52
Whats the deal with "Industrial Strip"

they have a nice website

Do they allow contact ?

Are the girls nice ?

Does it really get so crowded on weekends you have to wait in line to get in?

Jonny
02-23-03, 02:20
Industrial Strip allows full contact (anywhere but the crotch) lap dances.

Rules: NO SWEAT PANTS OR SHORTS - I suggest a loose fitting pair of dark dress pants - to better conceal the wet spot!

Watch out for this scam: The girl will get you to pre-pay for three songs. Then, during the first song, if you accidentally touch her g-string, or do anything that looks like you are touching yourself (re-arranging the package), she screams for the bouncer, whop tosses you out - without a refund. That way, the gal gets fifty bucks for one minute of work.

ChicagoBoy23
02-23-03, 11:43
Thanks !

Whats the best night to visit.

Does the place get packed ?

SamaRy
02-24-03, 08:30
Originally posted by Jonny
Industrial Strip allows full contact (anywhere but the crotch) lap dances. ... the gal gets fifty bucks for one minute of work.

YMMV but, my mileage there has always been really low........ Never been impressed since they moved to this location... Good looking dancers, but poor quality attitudes..... I would do a search on it, and look at all the post over the past year... before going there....

ChicagoBoy23
02-24-03, 21:25
What no booze ?

The girls must be incredible.

Member #4242
02-24-03, 22:08
Yup,

I was scammed at Industrial Strip about two years back. They lost my business for ever.

Desi

Dougie
02-27-03, 21:32
Originally posted by kingGirlfriend
Gentlemen,

About a week or so ago I made a plummage to Peking and was greeted at the door by Pink.

Kang, or anybody, how about posting a detailed description of this "Pink" so we will know to look out for her. It is possible that they could get wise if guys start walking out when the hear the name "Pink" and just change her name.

Flashman
02-28-03, 11:44
RE: Pink description at PS

She is unattractive, below PS average, short, short hair, with an abrupt personality.

Don't know if she is still there, hope not. Some (most) other Peking providers are outstanding.

Yes, she could change her name to avoid walkouts, so I hope the Peking regulars out there keep up the post's.

Anyone with a recent report on Peking? I am getting ready for a visit this week or next.

I'll report on my trip.

Warpig2000
02-28-03, 15:15
Industrial Strip lost my buisness almost from the beginning when the owner was making almost impossible claims from the beginning on the alt.sex.strip-clubs newsgroup. (Does anyone remember "usenet" before it was plugged by Spam and made totally useLESS ??)

Claims were made that the club would feature full nude friction lap dances and "fashion shows" for $10. Guess his buisness model did not support that or the quality of girls, but it was a promise that was quickly forgotten. I know I probably should go back and check it out from the one time I visited it 3 weeks after it opened.... I know the club has been extensively remodelled.

But the sad fact remains that management has always led you to believe you will get more than they will deliver. What I've read about songs being cut short AND the dancers doing the 'call the bouncer after one song and have you thrown out' for relatively inocent touching makes me positive that these folks aren't ready to deliver.

The more I read about this club, the more I am happy with keeping money safe in my wallet for OTHER adventures- 'nuff said.

kingGirlfriend
03-01-03, 06:00
RE: Pink description at PS

Yeah, I'd agree with just about everything flashman said. She's probably the shortest most 'petite' girl working. Short hair, very cold manner and plain looking. Just not as cute as the typical Peking girl. Like I said, I had no problem to 'arrive', she just was not up to Peking standards.

Now earlier last week me an a homey made the plummage to the Peking Spa and it was my friend's first venture. I went first and had Angie. Angie was pretty, long hair, long face, big breasts, real fun. All I got was a BJ but she let me DATY, butt and all (girl was sparklin')! Totally sixty-nine the whole joint! It was busy so I was somewhat rushed, but Angie and the mammasan both promised that next time I would get a longer treatment (but who knows). My friend on the other hand had a case of the ole whiskey dick and was hard, but could not 'arrive.' He said that they brought a second girl in the room and both were working on him but he still could not do it! He left a happy man from the overall experiance but was prolly just a bit nervous of the whole scene.

In the end the mammasan gave me a 7up for the ride home and soon enough I plan on visiting my new girl Angie for a bit more of my extended rompin' in her girl pocket.

Dougie
03-02-03, 17:18
Originally posted by kingGirlfriend
RE: Pink description at PS

Thanks a bunch, now I know what to look out for. And Angie sounds worth a try. I have been trying to make it up there for the last several weekends, but the weather has sucked each time. Not all bad though, there will be some fresh meat on the menu when I do make it up there.

kingGirlfriend
03-03-03, 19:33
Oh yeah, one of the girls my friend was with was the "new" Kathy and I was able to finally get a good look at her. She's definitely cute, a little shorter than last year's Kathy with shoulder length hair and braces (yow!). Being with Kathy of last year I can say she's not as jaw droppling beautiful as her but she is indeed pretty. And maybe it's just me but the braces add a little sumpthin'. Like these girls aren't adorable enough. I know some of you are thinking what I'm thinking (or skankin'). The weather sure is crummy out there and I'm feeling the itch but I might hold off till later this week......


Kang G. Fren

Johnny Rocket
03-04-03, 03:01
Originally posted by kingGirlfriend
Now earlier last week me an a homey made the plummage to the Peking Spa and it was my friend's first venture. I went first and had Angie. Angie was pretty, long hair, long face, big breasts, real fun. All I got was a BJ but she let me DATY, butt and all (girl was sparklin')! Totally sixty-nine the whole joint! It was busy so I was somewhat rushed, but Angie and the mammasan both promised that next time I would get a longer treatment (but who knows).

Thanks for the info. Can you descrbie her pussy? Hairy, normal, shaven? Did she seem to enjoy being eaten? Did she moan a lot or scream?

Also, has anyone else experienced Tammi? I'd like to hear further descriptions of her.

I plan to go next week so I will definitely report. :)

Clubking01
03-04-03, 12:40
Jonny is right about the Industrial Strip. Two times my friend was kicked out for "touching himself". This was several months ago, but it appears to still be the norm.

I haven't been back since. It's a shame too, because a few years back, before they remodeled and expanded the place, it was much more intimate (and so was the contact).

One particular night, there was only a couple of girls on site, so I ended up with the female manager, and she was quite good.

Making the trip down from Chicago hardly seems worth it right now.

macaroni
03-04-03, 16:56
Gents,

I stopped by the Peking after not having visited for over a month. Mammasan led me into the room and told me to wait there. The one thing I was ready for was to shoot down pink. In walks a very cute girl! She said her name was Jenny. I was happily pleased with Jenny. She was about five three round ass and nice larger tits maybe a C cup. She didn't offer to give me a shower so she massaged me with the towel on my back but it was a very good and long massage. She worked me with her hands, knees and feet. Into the sensual massage she went but the entire time with clothes on. When she did disrobe I was taken back by her beauty. Really nice tits! Nice large brown nipples that were sticking out. She acted like she was going to have a hard time with my size but I was AMAZED with how good her oral was. She was damn near deep throating me. This was by far the best BJ I ever received from an asian girl. She took her time, enjoying watching me enjoy her! After that we did a couple positions, her ontop, doggy and me ontop of her. I assumed that she was new there since I had never seen her before and am somewhat of a regular. She said that she wasn't new to Peking, just new to me. Remember: JENNY HIGHLY reccomended!

Member #1974
03-04-03, 19:45
Lots of talk about Industrial Strip. I have always liked it for a strip club. A bit pricey-I don't drink often so the no alcholol rule doesn't bother me-might others. There are some great looking girls there, and the lap dances are better than most clubs. But I think it's safe to say forget about extras.
Is Vivea on Route 30 worth stopping in for extras or only for a good massage? Thanks.

ChicagoBoy23
03-04-03, 21:51
OK - Industrial Strip is off the list.

Any other strip joints in Gary etc worth visiting ?

Happy99
03-05-03, 10:03
Can someone please tell me where peking is? Sounds like it is worth the 2 hour drive.

Member #4242
03-05-03, 10:19
Our Dolls in Hammond is a decent strip joint. The other good ones are in Harvey, Illinois.

Jonny
03-05-03, 10:51
Peking is in East Chicago, Indiana.

It's on a shrt street called Macoun, a block from the intersection of Indianapolis Blvd. and Chicago Ave.

from the Indiana Toll Road(90), take the Calumet Ave exit south to Chicago Ave. Turn left on Chicago, and go about a mile to downtown E. Chicago - Macoun is on the left a block before Indianapolis.

From 80/94 (the Borman), take Indianapolis Blvd exit North to Chicago Ave. Turn left - one block to Macoun - turn right.

Warpig2000
03-05-03, 11:02
Desi, Please qualify the comment on Our Dolls... I remember as of a couple years ago there was NO friction to be had there in the Couch Dances. Is there contact now? How much are dances, cover, what is and isn't allowed? Any chance of Outcall from the girls? I will certaintly agree with you that Club O, Skybox, D-Los et al (Cowboys as well) are High mileage but they are a little ways away.
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Request Back Channel from anyone who has info on the bookstore that replaced old CLUB TOPPS, especially which girls are likely to do xtras or might be available for outcall. warpig_y2k@yahoo.com

tfa_bukiak_seek
03-05-03, 16:41
Does anyone know of some good areas for sw? Or any AMP's with prices?

ChicagoBoy23
03-06-03, 01:09
What does high mileage mean ?

I live in Lincoln park (Chicago) so far away is farther south than Gary ?

Thanks in advance for the help.

CB

kingGirlfriend
03-06-03, 02:25
Originally posted by johnny_rocket
Thanks for the info. Can you descrbie her pussy? Hairy, normal, shaven? Did she seem to enjoy being eaten? Did she moan a lot or scream?


Her pussy was great! Fairly natural and kind of a thick bush for an asian chick, but her lips and asshole were totally clean. It tasted fantastic! She had a small moan goin' and I'm comfortable with saying she played with my ass while she was sucking my nutsack.

I don't know if I've met Tammie. Let us know.

Kang G. Fren

SamaRy
03-06-03, 12:43
Originally posted by tfa_bukiak_seek
Does anyone know of some good areas for sw? Or any AMP's with prices? ...do a forum search.... PEKING


Originally posted by Kang G F
Her pussy was great! ... thick bush for an asian chick,
rode me like a horse, wow what a slow gallop will do for ya!!!!!!!

kingGirlfriend
03-06-03, 19:36
Originally posted by SamaRy
rode me like a horse, wow what a slow gallop will do for ya!!!!!!!

Aw dude, I'm so happy for us!

Member #4828
03-07-03, 00:47
With regard to Peking...any "best" time to go where you aren't rushed as much? Is it better early in the morning when the girls are more fresh...lol...for lack of a better word?

Somebody give me an opinion...

Thanks.

Member #4242
03-07-03, 10:03
Warpig,

I have been to Our Dolls about 3 times in the last year. $50 for 3 dances and good friction, grabbing (some girsl will not do it). But more do it than don't.

Good friction. I do not remember if I paid any cover.

BTW, Arnies is the best in my opinion in Harvey.

Desi

Ben Dover
03-07-03, 10:19
Yo!

I stopped at the bookstore the other day. I must say, the quality has improved. They had two girls (white & black). The white girl was a bit older, a bit heavier. But the black one was at least a 6 or 7 on the P & M sliding scale. I got a CBJ from her for 50 plus a 20 dance. She said she would do FS for a bill, but I cold not imagine doing the whole thing in that plastic curtain room.

Antonio
03-08-03, 11:53
Visited Peking Thursday (3/6) and had a very enjoyable experience. I was told, however, by my cortesan du jour that the girls there are repulsed and appalled by comments made on this board. While I can understand that some of us may try to alert our comrades in sexual frolicking as to which girls are the most delectable or least forthcoming, still it might be nice if we complied with their wishes, at least to the extent of not going into the details of their romp on the ole massage slab.

Antonio
03-08-03, 12:01
Originally posted by Joe_The_Lion
With regard to Peking...any "best" time to go where you aren't rushed as much? Is it better early in the morning when the girls are more fresh...lol...for lack of a better word?

Somebody give me an opinion...

Thanks.

TRY GOING BEFORE THE NOONTIME RUSH AND THE EVENING CRUNCH, i.e. between 2 and 5

HappyGardener
03-08-03, 12:43
Well said, Antonio.
I have had similar conversations in the Chicago area with girls. They really don't like the extra publicity.

Peter_Girth
03-08-03, 13:20
Originally posted by antonio
Visited Peking Thursday (3/6) and had a very enjoyable experience. I was told, however, by my cortesan du jour that the girls there are repulsed and appalled by comments made on this board. While I can understand that some of us may try to alert our comrades in sexual frolicking as to which girls are the most delectable or least forthcoming, still it might be nice if we complied with their wishes, at least to the extent of not going into the details of their romp on the ole massage slab.

Oh, I feel quite differently. I think it is very important to informs other about what the girls will and won't do. After all they are there for OUR pleasure, not the other way around, and if they don't like it, tough shit. I personally appreciate being informed about which girls will allow kissing, DATY, ect and I even more appreciate being WARNED about cunts like "Pink" who only want to get your money and get you out of there ASAP without regard for you or for the damage to the reputation of the establishment they are causing by their actions.

If the owners read this board, and I hope they do, and if the take it seriously, then they will weed out the bad actors before their reputation suffers because of them. More power to US, and less to them simply because they have holes between their legs.

Bukake
03-08-03, 17:53
Pete, I agree whole heartedly!. This board has provided info that has brought great pleasure. It has also steered me away from places where I would have wasted money. I think it is great that us hobbyists help each other out. As for as the girls being upset that we discuss them on the board tough shit.

Play hard Play safe!

Antonio
03-08-03, 19:41
[QUOTE]Originally posted by peter_girth
[i]Oh, I feel quite differently. I think it is very important to informs other about what the girls will and won't do. After all they are there for OUR pleasure, not the other way around, and if they don't like it, tough shit. I personally appreciate being informed about which girls will allow kissing, DATY, ect and I even more appreciate being WARNED about cunts like "Pink" who only want to get your money and get you out of there ASAP without regard for you or for the damage to the reputation of the establishment they are causing by their actions. (QUOTE)
NOTHING IN MY POST SUGGESTED THAT IT IS INAPPROPRIATE TO NAME PROVIDERS WHO ARE SUBPAR. WE HAVE A CODED LANGUAGE (BBBJ, DATY, DFK, etc.) WHICH WE COULD USE AND
WHICH WOULD BE LESS OFFENSIVE TO THE GIRLS THAN POSTS SUCH AS:
Her pussy was great! ... thick bush for an asian chick,
rode me like a horse, wow what a slow gallop will do for ya!!!!!!!
FRANKLY I DON'T SEE ANYTHING IS GAINED, IN TERMS OF INFO, BY SUCH POSTS. I THINK THEIR LITERARY VALUE SPEAKS FOR ITSELF. AND WHAT'S SO WRONG WITH SHOWING A LITTLE CONSIDERATION FOR A WORKING GIRL?

Bukake
03-09-03, 00:28
Antonio, I can see your point. Perhaps it isn't necessary to get too graphic. I do feel strongly about the purpose of this board. (the exchange of detailed info) I think we're all on the same team here. Lets go out there have some fun and talk about it amongst the boys.

Warpig2000
03-09-03, 01:53
You know Bukake, I'm FUCKING glad that you are candy ass about going to Pete and Mabels becuase hell if I want someone with your attitude ruining the ladies I like to see. Hell, what's wrong with a little kindness once in a while, a little two way respect??

I guess I believe what comes around goes around, and with a ratbastard like you gloating on the public forum how he doesn't give a shit if a sw gets raped, I can see why he gets ripped off and then a call to his wife within weeks. Sorry if you have to treat people like shit to build yourself up... Some of us have a different slant on the hobby, and know that if you treat a lady right she's gonna want to see you again, maybe give you that little extra something to make you wanna cum back.

Ivy
03-09-03, 04:34
I hate to ruin any one's fun but a word of warning: there are vice squads on the net. So when you post a very detailed review on a lady, there is a chance LE is reading it. Guys are in less danger about getting busted,however that wont stop them from trying to bust the lady you are graphically reviewing.

Also, some cops are also aware of what the code words such FS, DATY, and BBBJ mean. So my advice, from a escort's point of view, is to discreetly review the lady on the board. If any one would like more detailed info, you can always back channel the person.

Ivy

Warpig2000
03-09-03, 10:06
Ivy, you are absolutely 92% correct here. The 8% off is realizing that they are talking about an East Chicago incall and knowing the political situation there..... both Pete and Mabels _and_ Peking have been 'permitted to exist' for years during Mayor Pastrick's watch for the reason that the owners of both probably know where the dead bodies are LOL. But that is shakey ground when you've still got county, state and possibly federal authorities and the Mann act (in the case of Peking); Plus an old geezer like Pastrick won't be in forever (He is rumored to be a client at the Peking, I knew a former councilman I worked with who said that implicitly).

I think passing on provider information is a good thing but any hunter knows you need to allow your 'game' to have adaquate cover. Blow the cover, there is no habitat for them to opperate in. This analogy goes for the ladies as well, say too much and the hobbyist can watch his 'booty call' get raided and taken off the map.

hoodas
03-09-03, 13:34
I hate to interrupt in everyone's fun here but thought I would post a report!

Visited P&M's last night (3/8) around 11PM. 4 very nasty looking BSWs. Had a couple of beers and took off. This place is really hit or miss.

ChicagoBoy23
03-09-03, 14:34
Visited All Dolls in Hammond last night (strip joint).

Girls were very friendly and reasonably cute (some hot some average some need new job). $20 Contact lap dances allowed but security was very harassing. I think the girls wanted to do more but were scared.

Lot of b@#$ching from girls about Deja Vu down the street stealing their business. All Dolls serves booze (21 and older to get in). Deja Vu says 18 or older to get in so maybe dry. Not sure if I could handle a dry strip joint !

Johnny Rocket
03-09-03, 20:34
If I may briefly weigh in on the debate:

Working girls should be treated with respect just like anybody in any other profession. The purely economic reason is that it creates an incentive for them to provide good service. The more important reason is that they are human beings and haven't done anything wrong (in fact, they are doing something right!).

A working girl is just like your waitress, stewardess, or custodian. Anyone who would treat those folks with any less regard than a businessman or a doctor has self-esteem issues and is a flat out asshole.

With respect to graphic descriptions on the board: availability of information is crucial to the functioning of any market. I think there is a difference between providing useful information and just talking out of your ass. The great majority of posters here do the former. Hobbyists want to know more than what services are available for what price. They want subjective critiques concerning a woman's physical features, attitude, etc. A working girl has to be prepared to be critiqued just like a restauranteur must be prepared to see himself reviewed in the press.

Happy hunting everyone! And remember we're all in this together.

Ivy
03-09-03, 20:52
Opps. my mistake! Sorry about that. When I posted, I was still half asleep. Providing info is a good thing, but if you want the provider to still be around so you can see her again, it isnt smart to provide contact info and explict detail publicly.

Before I made the earlier post, I was in the FW Forum. It kinda bothered me that someone was asking for very explict detail about myself in a public forum. I am all for backchanneling, but as a provider, I dont feel comfy having every intimate detail made public, as it could cause some unwanted attention. PPl are already emailing me asking me if i will do this or that for such and such a rate,without telling me anything that would lead me to believe that they are safe to meet. For all I know, this ppl could be LE.

Anyways, I am sorry for butting in, but after reading the FW posts, and then reading the posts here, I just felt compelled to reply.

Hugs,
Ivy

Bukake
03-09-03, 21:05
FYI, from here on out I am going to give some of the most graphic, detailed information you have ever read in all of my posts. Why am I going to get even more detailed? Just to piss Warpiggy, and all the rest of the pansies off. To the rest of my fellow hobbyists, I say hump hard and hump safe!

Ivy
03-09-03, 22:11
No one needs to get pissed off, as this is a public forum and ppl can say what they desire. However, ppl can also decide which posts they want to read and which ones to ignore.

Ivy

HappyGardener
03-10-03, 11:15
I like to check out the board on a Monday Morning and see if anyone had any outstanding experiences over the weekend. It’s good to open it up and see a full bore discussion going on and: Surprise, Surprise, Bukake is in the center of it. Nice too to see that he felt the need to have a whole separate post slamming me...I am amazed how two sentences can piss him off.

The problem is, flaming Bukake is like shooting fish in a barrel; it is just too easy. There is no sport in it. I don’t really won’t to waste the bits and bytes to answer him.


Oh, who am I kidding. This is one of life's few guilty pleasures anymore. Of course I have to do this. Someone has to be the elderly curmudgeon.

Since you hadn’t posted in awhile Bukake, I had assumed you had crawled back under whatever rock you had crawled out of. I will temper this with the knowledge that you are the genius who swapped your wife with a hooker provided to you by a member of this board,,,and that you have “stuck my dick in places you wouldn’t stick your feet.” All things to be proud of saying publicly. I am sorry you are so socially and emotionally immature
that you can only think of women as receptacles for you to use. Must be fun in the trailer park on a Saturday night after you’ve knocked back a few of Milwaukee’s Best. What else do you do for fun, other than beating your wife and kicking your dog?

Savior of the girls? No that is not me. There are guys on this board who do feel that way, but I am not one of them. If you can figure out the search function go back and read a nasty exchange of posts between me and Chester from last June when he intervened on a girls behalf and I took him to task on that. As it turned out i was wrong in that series and he did the right thing. I figure the girl made whatever choices she made, and she is either going to survive or not. There are no maybes in becoming a hooker.

However, lets not confuse emotional attachment with compassion. Maybe I need to define compassion for you since you seem to lack it. If it is 20 degrees outside and you pick a girl up what is wrong with turning the heat up in the car and offering to buy her a warm cup of coffee? Do you feel the need to belittle them because they are working in a degrading job?

Finally, let me relate a story that I have posted before. Sorry to those who I am repeating this to. A couple of years ago, I became pretty intimate with a mamasan at an AMP. Thru her I met and talked to other girls and to the owner of the place. I shut up, became trustworthy, listened and learned. I was in that room with the futon and the TV, when you loudmouthed, ignorant, hairy-backed American came in. I listened to you try to get FS. I heard the girls laugh and complain about it afterwards.

They want to fly under the radar. Sure they advertise. Sure they are in the phonebook. But that is all the publicity they want. The more we describe what goes on in there, the more heat the community has to shut them down if they want to. The more money they have to pay out in “license fees” to stay open.


I want to say more about this, but the reality is, I don’t want to waste anymore time on it. I have my opinion, he has his, and that is the way it is going to stay. I have real work to do today, then I am going to go to see my favorite AMP massuse and compliment her on a job well done.

Big D
03-10-03, 11:39
HA! HA! HA! HA! HA!

Bukake, you are such a piece of trash! I love it. When you post your ultragraphic posts, don't forget to post things like, "My two inch pecker was really churning butter, baby," or, "it isn't the size of the wand, it's the magic it has in it."

It is still hilarious to me that you swapped your wife for a streetwalker. Dolt.

Warpig2000
03-10-03, 12:06
Bukake, post away!!! I'm just waiting anxiously to get the 411 about how your attitude and actions get your nutz in a vice in the next installment. You still haven't learned the simple rules in life, pal : what you reap, you sow.

Red734
03-10-03, 13:36
Guys,

Inreference to P & M, what time do girls start making their way to the bar? I have a lot of time in the early afternoon for a quick excursion.....any SW's just after noon?

Will report back.

HappyGardener
03-10-03, 21:39
Originally posted by Bukake

The funny thing about this is that most people agree with me on this subject. Only the chumps with hearts of gold, that lay they're jackets over mud puddles disagree with me.

Get a clue guys. I still love ya though. We're on the same team. Lets go out there and lay some pipe.

Who is it that agrees with you Bukake....petergirth?....Schtick?....I don't see them rallying to your defense. Who are these "most people"? The silent majority?

HappyGardener
03-11-03, 01:53
Yeah right..then I get spammed to death. No way Bukake.

Unless....

Unless, I get your wifes email address too. That way I can take her out to dinner and show her how a true gentleman acts.. Open car doors for her, light her ciggarettes, and yes throw my coat down on the ground for her.

I'll have her back to the trailer by midnight.

Member #4242
03-11-03, 19:08
Now I know why someone called him buttcakes - reminds me of Nibu Rapheal

Desi

Schtick
03-11-03, 23:14
Wow...I don't read the board for a week and WWIII breaks out. I have a thought on this matter and it pertains to the useless French.

Here goes: General George Patton once said "I would rather have the German army in front of me as opposed to the French army behind me" French ferries, you know who you are.

For all you who say sex workers should be treated with kindness and respect, wait till you get robbed and assaulted. Better yet, if it is such a reputable profession maybe you would like to rent out your wives or even your daughters. I know some of you chumps could use the extra cash.

As for you Bukake, I do admire your dedication and professionalism to the hobby but give me a break. It's like I've said before: "His bark is worse than his bite". He is not like this in person. My belief is that he is bitter about something and he expresses his frustrations on this board. Maybe his mother turned tricks or his sister or wife, who knows. I firmly belive something happened in his life that soured him on these highly respected and productive citizens.

Sorry I don't have anything to contribute. I was robbed and assaulted (pistol whipped) about 5 weeks ago by a sw and her pimp. Don't drop your guard.

Big D
03-12-03, 15:42
Schtick,

<<<For all you who say sex workers should be treated with kindness and respect, wait till you get robbed and assaulted. Better yet, if it is such a reputable profession maybe you would like to rent out your wives or even your daughters. I know some of you chumps could use the extra cash.>>>

I treat all service workers with respect. I treat the people at McDonald's who get my sandwich with respect. Doesn't mean I want my daughter to work at McDonald's. Can you understand that? I personally do this because a) I have enough to worry about in my life without being an asshole to people for no reason, and b) I fear the karmic boomerang. Applying the Golden Rule to EVERYONE is my way of ducking it. Try it some time.

<<<As for you Bukake, I do admire your dedication and professionalism to the hobby. . .>>>

Professionalism to the hobby? Do you even believe your own silliness? That sort of abuse of the English language ought to be a crime.

<<<Don't drop your guard.>>>

Truer words were never spoken. Guys can have all of the Pretty Woman fantasies they want, but the reality is drugs, violence, and money, with your little bit of sex thrown in.

Timmy
03-12-03, 16:55
we will know if buttcakes is nibu when he starts asking about cicero and the late 70's.

my .02 is treat people how u want to be treated. it was said earlier and it is so true. sw's want to separate u from your money. some will provide a service and some will stick u up. u just never know.

Member #4242
03-12-03, 21:25
When I said buttcakes reminded me of Nibu, I did not mean he was Nibu, he certainly is not. Different approaches, except that both seem to have just about similar IQ.

Desi

Ynot
03-12-03, 22:42
Ivy,

Once again, you are the voice of reason with a touch of class. You're right. I think we've all learned by now which posters here are positive contributors and which ones are better off ignored.

Ben Dover
03-13-03, 12:21
I stopped by the AMP in Muster last week.

In a word................NO.

They had an old asain guy taking money in the front. Some other guy in the front room watching tv and some 30ish asian girl going massages.

The rooms were left open and had cameras in every room.

I told the guy taking money I changed my mind and got my money back.

Ampert
03-13-03, 14:01
FYI, Peking has cameras in the rooms. I don't know if they tape or not but they are definitely watching.

Flashman
03-13-03, 14:12
Wow, if this posting warfare stupidity keeps up much longer, I think I will have to troll another board. Too bad, the Gary/MichiganCity/NWIndiana board used to be one of the best. If I wanted to read about in-fighting I would read the newspapers and stories about the Paris surrender monkeys.

I wish some of the constant fighting members would do a forum search of themselves and see what a huge waste of space and our time is happening.

Take your insults, ok to fire one back, and then move on to the topic we are all here for. Hey Jackson, ever thought about a 2-round limit for this off-topic back and forth BS?

I think most of us are pretty tired of the same old same old stuff from the same people-who will never agree with each other.

By the way,

Does anyone out there have any recent reports on P&M, PS, area casinos, Broadway run etc.?

The last time I was at PS I had Pink and I have not been back. Any new talent news?

Antonio
03-13-03, 14:14
IN RESPONSE TO SCHTICK'S COMMENT BELOW:
"The useless French: General George Patton once said "I would rather have the German army in front of me as opposed to the French army behind me" French ferries, you know who you are."

I am not a French national but I'm getting sick of the mindless slaps taken at French bravery on the battlefield. Some basic facts for the gung-ho yahoos out there:
1. in the last century the French lost 4 times as many men on the battlefield as the US did (2 million vs. 500,000);
2. in WWI, HALF of the men in the age cohort who were eligible to fight from '14 to '18 died as a consequence of the war (every town and village in France, however small, has a memorial monument to their war dead--that so many could have died from such small villages staggers the imagination & would that we had such constant reminders in each of our towns and cities to the human cost of war);
2. in WWII, though their army was defeated in 3 weeks by the Germans, who had the edge in air, armor and strategy, more than 150,000 Frenchmen gave up their lives on the battlefield (vs. less than 300,000 Americans on two fronts over 3 years);
3. thousands of Frenchmen (& women) died in the French Resistance to the Nazi occupation--check out the slaughter of them at Ventoux--when it would have been easy enough to sit out the war on their derriere and wait for the Americans;
4. the decision in June 1940 to not fight the Germans house to house in the streets of Paris is, I think, fully defensible: the French army had already been defeated, the French troops' morale and discipline had been broken (Americans ran too at the Kasserine Pass); yes, a last-ditch stand in Paris would have meant a few more Germans would have been killed but that would hardly have affected the course of WWII and would have led to the destruction of Paris--a city whose charm and beauty belongs as much to mankind as to the French (a view shared by the Germans: remember the decision of a German general in 1944 not to blow up the city, defying Hitler's orders?).
So, think what you will about the French defiance of the will-to- war evidenced on this side of the Atlantic, but it's pure bulls**t to think they're less courageous than Americans.
Oh, and by the way, the French did fight in the streets of Paris against the Prussian army in 1871--a resistance organized by the people of Paris themselves (the Paris Commune) after Louis Napoleon had surrendered....the execution of the survivors carried out by the Prussian army in Pere Lachaise cemetery went on for a number of days.

macaroni
03-13-03, 14:25
Since we are totally off-topic:

Q: How many Frenchmen does it take to defend Paris?

A: Nobody knows, its never been done


I lived in Paris for five years, yes we are in debt to Gen Haussmann for not blowing up the city-----


the french are sissies--bottom line.

SamaRy
03-13-03, 16:05
Originally posted by Schtick
Sorry I don't have anything to contribute. I was robbed and assaulted (pistol whipped) about 5 weeks ago by a sw and her pimp. Don't drop your guard.

Hey schtick, where was this at? Glad to hear you are OK though!

Antonio
03-13-03, 17:10
Sorry to continue off-topic, Macaroni, but your lack of knowledge on the off-topic topic obliges me to respond:
1. It wasn't Haussmann but Gen. von Cholitz who defied Hitler;
2. Baron Haussmann was Napoleon's city planner, who devised Paris' great boulevard system (with a political purpose in mind: to make it harder for the people of Paris to erect barricades and mount insurrections against their rulers);
3. Paris was defended by Frenchmen both in WWI (the Germans got within 30 miles) and, as I mentioned in my earlier post, in 1871. Tens of thousands died in both cases.
It's hard to believe that anyone who lived in Paris for 5 years could be so ignorant of the country's history, but stranger things have happened, I guess. I'm afraid you'll have to come up with a slightly more insightful post to convince me that the French are "sissies."

Flashman
03-13-03, 19:41
Antonio,

Well, we are all way off the topic, but this is a better discussion than the flaming going on between some members who can't agree how to treat the ladies. Jackson, thanks for letting us express ourselves in your forum.

Antonio, you obviously know your French history, and you are among the better written members of this board, but....

Consider this:

America to France:
We really believe that our national safety and security are under a clear and present danger from IRAQ's weapons of mass destruction. We note that you and all other members of the security council agreed that IRAQ must be forced to disarm and given a last chance to comply.

We have since learned of a link between the IRAQ regime and our enemies that cut our pilots throats and flew the jets into our buildings in NY and DC. Thank God the only thing that exploded was the jet fuel.

We consider you as long-time allies. We thank you for your efforts in our revolutionary war and we know you appreciate the blood we spilled in two world wars toward the defense of your country.

We, and a few brave allies, are willing to risk the lives of our young to prevent the next attack on our soil from making 9-11 look insignificant. This is something that we American citizens are truely fearful of, and we understand that we, not Europe, are the primary target of the terrorism we are fighting against.

We now have a request of you.

We do not ask you to commit your troops to the effort, but we do ask for your vote in the UN, and we expect to receive it from you, our 227 year allies. All America looks forward to your favorable reply.




France to America:

No, we do not believe any of your evidence and the fears of your citizens. We believe that our friends in IRAQ will disarm as they have promised. We will veto your resolution as is our right as one of the 5 most important countries of the world.




Antonio, have I missed something? What part of friendship do the French not understand?

After many visits to France I understand well how making fun of the unsophisticated Yanks is part of the French way of life, in the same way that I understand how Americans and British love to make fun of the force-fed goose liver and frog eating, surrender monkeys in France. It has been a lot of fun, but I still loved France and the French.

But now, for the first time, I really believe that this will be the end of the alliance that brought liberty to both countries, and which defeated the Nazis and the Soviets.

Long after this episode is over, the French will continue to be mildly amused by the goings on in the USA. But I think that the Americans will never forget the actions of a former friend.

I hate to agree with Mr. Rumsfeld, but I think that France has peaked and is sliding down, and they just lost one of their best friends.

Johnny Rocket
03-13-03, 20:50
Originally posted by flashman
I hate to agree with Mr. Rumsfeld, but I think that France has peaked and is sliding down, and they just lost one of their best friends.

Actually France slid down a long time ago. They are important in the arts and culturally, but that's about it.

The country sliding down most significantly right now is the United States--not due to chickenshit terrorists or any external challenge but because we have forgotten forget that civil liberties, common purpose, and helping out the underdog are what made us so great in the first place.

"Augustus was sensible that mankind is governed by names; nor was he deceived in his expectation, that the senate and people would submit to slavery, provided they were respectfully assured that they still enjoyed their ancient freedom." --Edward Gibbon, "The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire," Chapter 3

That having been said, what's up at Peking? :)

Schtick
03-13-03, 23:03
Big D,

I don't think you are intelligent enough to understand the point I was making...actually I never knew people in trailer parks had computers but I will try and clarify my point.

My point being: the women in this most important industry are often less than desirable citizens. Generally speaking they are often people of low moral character who contribute very little to society. I do not condone violence towards these ladies as many are down and out on thier luck. Many have lived horrible lives that you and I will probably never be able to comprehend.

I too try to treat others as I like to be treated but again you need to be careful. And if you don't believe me, back channel me and I'll show your wife, daughter, sister, or mother how well I treat such service providers.

Good day chump.

Antonio
03-13-03, 23:56
Flashman,
Thank you for the gentlemanly way in which you addressed your disagreement with me. Quite rare, actually, on this board as on so many other sites, and I am appreciative of that. Still, I must register (and I hope this will be the last time, for a while, that I go "off-topic") a dissent with your view on the need to go to war with Iraq. Here's the way I see it:
1. none of Iraq's neighbors sees the Baghdad regime as a threat (this was true even of Kuwait and our micro client states in the Gulf until the US bullied and bribed them into alignment);
2. there is no evidence linking the Baghdad regime with Sept. 11 and Al Qaida, and even in his last message in support of the Iraqi people Bin Laden lambasted S.H.'s secular, Bath regime
(I have no idea what you're referring to as to the possible link, but bear in mind that our government is far from being above fabricating evidence, as was the case with the recent "evidence" that Iraq had started up its nuclear weapons program again);
3. there is no evidence that Baghdad has been able to re-create its nuclear weapons program, and certainly would be unable to do so in the future as long as the weapons inspections regime is in place;
4. there is no evidence that Baghdad has used or supplied to others biological or chemical weapons since the Gulf war (and it's crazy to think that S.H. would do so--the guy loves power, and that's what he gives up when he hands over weapons to independent terrorist organizations like Al Qaida);
5. the use of biological and chemical weapons by a state outside its own borders is logistically an exceedingly difficult operation for a non-superpower country;
6. there is no evidence linking Baghdad to any terrorist act committed in the last 10 years (unless you count aid to the surviving family members of Palestinian suicide bombers);
7. biological and chemical weapons have not been the weapons of choice of terrorists who have perpetrated the worst atrocities in the past ten years (in fact, the highest death tolls have been associated with things not usually thought of as weapons: commercial aircraft, a can of paint, and fertilizer);
8. war in Iraq will bring certain death to thousands of human beings and incalculable harm to the survivors in the damage done to homes, hospitals, and infrastructure in general VERSUS an uncertain, hypothetical attack against the US, yet to be conceived, yet to be logistically organized, yet to be capable of implemention on the part of the Baghdad regime--and which would lead in short order to retaliatory measures which would decimate that very Baghdad regime.
So that's why I side with the French and world opinion in general, which is simply baffled as to why the US, the most powerful country on earth, is in such dreadful fear of a 3rd-rate military power like Iraq. Yes, track down the bastards behind September 11 and punish them and maybe even halt immigration of Muslims to this country, but don't believe that September 11 gives us a license to attack any country in the world whose government despises us.
P.S. A personal note: Whenever I can, I visit military cemeteries, here and in Europe, American and non-American, to look at the names on the markers and try to think of the young men who died before their time.

OCTraveler
03-14-03, 00:44
What's up with all this political, CNN wannabe BS?? I too am concerned with the possibility (probability???) of another "conflict", but I sure as hell don't log on to WSG to read about it ...Just the f...ing opposite! I log onto this site to get away from all that!

As a frequent visitor from CA to Chicago and a veteran of many of your fine establishments .... Love P&M's and Tamika in the little apartment nearby (that's why I check this portion of WSG) ... I really need WSG to be what it is ... a place where horny men can let off their stress by sharing our hobby.

Oh yeah ... before "antonio" comes back at me with some of his best "Wolf Blitzer" dialogue, please talk about something you know ... and if you want to know more, ask my son when he gets back - he sitting off the coast in a destroyer waiting for orders.

Ynot
03-14-03, 01:16
Bukake,

Why the hostility toward me? I made no mention of any names and no names were implied. My comment to Ivy was very clearly stated, and if you read anything else into it, you were wrong.

Flashman
03-14-03, 03:33
OCTraveler, you are right about coming here to get away from the depressing stuff in the media. No more from me. I guess the arguments will all end in a few days anyway, when we see what goes down.

Now, who has the latest on the neighborhood?

OC tell me more about Tamika!

And best wishes to your sailor son.

Big D
03-14-03, 11:44
Schtick,
You are a real hero. Thanks for being so enlightening.

Jackass.

Antonio
03-14-03, 11:58
To get back on topic: Recently visited Peking and here's the current roster: Jenny ("A"), Kathy ("A"), Angie (haven't had the pleasure, but favorably reviewed on these pages), and a new girl whom I've never seen before. No sign of the much-criticized
"Pink." By the way, "Kathy" (with braces) is the same Kathy who has been ploughing the fields there for the past 2 years on and off. As always: 2 dimes'll get you the works.

Member #4242
03-14-03, 12:13
Went to the bookstore by the Gary airport, yesterday. Just wanted to check it out and was in a hurry to go to the casino. Saw a white girl (name Helen) with large saggy tits. $40 for 2 dances. Gave her a 10 tip. BBBJ but not completion. I was in a hurry and wanted to come back later.

After a profitable few hours at the casino, I cam back later i the evening. One black girl, Tiffany, good perky tits. $50 for 3 dances - once we got in she said all she will do is dances. I told her I already paid 50 and will give her a 20 tip, she was like, forget it man. That was it. I said I am done, got my money back and left.

Went to Arnie's in Harvey. I love that place. Spent $200 bucks having all sorts of fun there. That is a great place, with so many nice looking women.

While leaving, noticed a flyer on my car about some new club Euphoria.

Its rules sem to be more like Club DLos.

Here is the info on this new club.
From Sibley East to Willow. Make a right on willow. go to first light and make a right, club euphoria is on the right. I think the town is Calumet City, but not sure.

Phone # 773 675 0246. Doors open at 8:30

If anyone knows more about this please post.

Desi

Razors
03-14-03, 16:15
To everyone else sorry for the off topic post, but really wanted to get my $.02 in.

Antonio,
My beef with France is that in WWII the french gave up too easily. France should have had the moral integrity to surrender the entire country but keep the fight going in the colonies. What there was of the Air Force and the Navy should have retreated to Morroco and Algeria and kept up the fight. With the French navy fighting for the allies in the Mediterranean the Italians (and would never have been able supply their forces in North Africa and the Germans would have never been able to establish the Afrika Corps there. The war could have ended as much as a year earlier.

Instead, Petain & Weygand betrayed their British ally. Individual frenchman fought bravely.

Ivy
03-16-03, 14:35
Hey all:
I have been very busy with life this week, so I just now caught up with the posts.

Thanks, YNot, for the kind words. For the record, I didnt read anything into either..:) I took it for what it was. I believe in the theory that what you post, and the tone of it, probably describes how you are in person, or it least describes some element in your personality. So, I try to stay as tactful and nice as possible. Being human, that can be hard to do , occasionally, as I can also be very direct as well. But I try to tone that aspect down a bit. I do not like offending people.

That is all for now, as I am ignoring the other post that mentioned me by name..:)

Hugs,
Ivy

Ynot
03-16-03, 16:42
Ivy,

I'm glad you took my post for what it was. A lot of people here appreciate it when people like you post here with a voice of reason to try to calm others down, plus you offer a unique perspective that few of us are able to provide. It's too easy to let emotions get the best of you here when you are having a discussion with someone else with whom you disagree. I usually try to post only when I have something to contribute and I try to stay out of arguments, but there are times when I feel I need to put in my $.02.

I've learned that most posters here can treat each other with respect, even in disagreements. However, there are a handful here who choose to get into altercations just to stir up the others. These are the ones who aren't willing to listen to reason, and these are the ones I was referring to. Since their whole purpose is apparently to confront others, I think the best thing to do is just to ignore them. Then, hopefully, they will just go away. Then again, if they don't, they are still a source of amusement for the rest of us.

As always, take care and be safe.

Warpig2000
03-16-03, 20:26
The phenomenon that YNOT is refering to is called "Feeding the Troll" Back on the USENET NEWSGROUPS (if anyone remembers them before they were spammed to death) people who would come into a group and post offensive views just to aggitate the users of a particular group or engage in insulting behavior for just the same were called "TROLLS" Since these individuals tend to get off on causing controversy for controveries sake and disrupting other's communication, to respond to them in a way which would further their agenda was known as 'Feeding the Troll'. Sometimes people need to be dressed down on online forums, but sometimes we also have to look for the intent of these SOB's and know when clicking the <SUBMIT BUTTON> would only be furthering their agenda by giving them a foil.

I think the Nibu that Desi was refering to is a classic example of a TROLL.... you can read about his exploits and other's like him in Jackson's little BANNED USER HALL OF SHAME.

Best way to get rid of a troll: DO NOT FEED THE TROLL.


Kudos to DESI for ferretting out that new club. Would love to find out more about it!!! Also to Antonio's on-topic observations on the PEKING. I haven't been around NW Indiana for a while and will be back in the area soon, would love to see more on the state of services there other than the world situation.

( But my spin on that anyways: I was in the Persian Gulf area during the Iran/Iraq tanker war, was on an amunition ship in the battle group before the Stark got shelled by an Iraqi fighter. We let Saddaam wiggle out of it then becuase Iraq was percieved as an allied force as they were fighting Khomeini's "Islamic Rebublic"

I know we had enough task forces stationed in the area where we could have bloodied Saddaam's nose. 2 in the med at the mouth of the Suez Canal (I was there!), one in the persian gulf on Station, at least one more as near as Diego Garcia, maybe 3 more on station in Subic Bay and others in the med.

During this time period we were responsible along with the french for helping Saddaam build his chemical weapon stockpile. How quickly we forget.

I was also in the Persian Gulf area During Desert Storm as a merchant seaman helping to arm our troops and take them home.

Mistakes were made in both opperations but all in all I think we did a good job. I highly respect what Presidents Reagan and Bush Sr. did on their watch.

Now with George W. Bush? Well, Saddaam has to go. But here we have a loud mouth Texan sonofabitch talking out of his ass before we have the troops in place to do the Job. An egoistic little tin-god wannabe who thinks he is his Father and Teddy Roosevelt put together. I'm sorry, he is NEITHER. Teddy Roosevelt said "Speak Softly, Carry a big stick". Bush is spewing venom before the stick is in place... and the folks who should be doing something (Russians, Germans, French, moderate Arabs) have us pegged as a bunch of Warmongers. Hey, if we can't get logistics and troops stationed in the right places to run a war from, we're fucked. I think it is a crisis of Leadership....

Saddaam needs to be checked, but study Sun Tu's the arts of War- Bushes plan is flawed becuase A) he does not have the fronts he needs to pull it off B) he plans an occupation. I think he is going to make the same mistake Lyndon Johnson made in vietnam, micromanage the quagmire for political reasons and not let the trained officers in the Pentagon do what they do best!

I hate to say it, but I see something ugly brewing due to a lack of effective leadership and a bonehead as the Commander-in-Cheif. I pray for our troops and hope for the best. But still, Having been in the region when things were handled better, I think the situation stinks. We need resolve, but we also need sanity.)

s w seeker
03-19-03, 00:06
Hi everybody, first time poster here. I was forced to be a lurker for the last month or so (since I discovered WSG) because AOL kept blocking me from logging on.
I am a refugee from the now defunct "Jones Report"
I am a long time hobbiest in the NW Indiana area. I only recently took the "escort" plunge thanks to reviews. Reviews can make our hobby a lot more fun. Of course there is always the roll of the dice with a SW. Kinda like opening a present (or a box of choclates)

I read this forum for hours the night I discovered it. A sex addicts dream come true. P&M, Peking and the "book store" sounded intriguing.

Like a kid with a new toy and armed with memorized directions I set out one day last week to see these wonders of the hobby world. My memorized directions faded as did the sunlight after work and I only found the Peking Spa were I was expecting the P&M to be.
I didn't go in. I have never been to any massage parlor. Someday I'll probably muster up the courage.

I'm really glad to finally be able to log on and share my stories with you all.

I have some wonderful SW memories from Cal City / Hammond.
A few gals that I'd love to find again.

Anybody remember Terry P. ?
She used to park her white Camaro with a red door in the Sterks lot in Hammond, 10 or so years ago. Since then she has had an old Dodge police car and the last time I saw her, a Cadillac. It's been years but I know she's still out there somewhere. A true GFE if I ever met one.

How about Tabitha M.? Anybody else know her? I've wasted hundreds of gallons of gas driving by her house hoping to catch her walking down the street, away from her abusive, drunken old man. It happened a few months ago. I got her phone number and hooked up once or twice until her phone was disconnected.

Now that it's warming up maybe my chances will improve.
Happy hunting.

Schtick
03-19-03, 00:13
Antonio - are you kidding me? You have got to be on the dumbest sons of bitches I have ever encountered. All that post did was prove the following:

1. You don't know how to count or that you are too stupid to keep track of how many points you were trying to make.

2. France was and still is an inferior nation in many regards especially when it comes to heroism and courage. I think Kuwait put up more of a resistance when they were invaded by the peaceful nation of Iraq.

3. Who do bullies typically pick on? That's right the weakest, easiest target....France. That's why we had to bail them out of WWI and WWII.

The French nation is the biggest culmination of faggots, sissies, and ferries in the world....period! As far as I am concerned all you ignorant, uneducated, peace loving, ferry liberals ought to all move there.

Oh, one other thing Antonio....Were you in the CIA or the NSA at one point? You seem to be an expert on what S.H. and the terrorist groups have done, plotted to do, how they have worked together, etc.

All I know is this....There once was a man by the name of Adolf Hitler. There were also useless pieces of shit (much like yourself) in this country who took the same stand towards him as you do towards S.H. and Iraq.

Remember the Isolationist policy instituted by Woodrow Wilson? Maybe you don't but there are an awful lot of Jews who do. Think about that you do good, feel good, liberal schmuck.

SXtourist
03-19-03, 02:16
I'm sorry to contribute to this off-topic, but I have some comments almost as a Finnish-American, who is following the situation from far North.

The French and the Danish are all covard chicken shit, that's a well known fact. Still I cannot understand, what could the US Government imagine to win by attacking Iraq without the support of U.N? Atleast not new friends from Europe.

S.H is a sick bastard who's time it was to go, but let's not forget who got him the position he now has. The US G. That's why it seems to me that maybe this all is about cleaning their own closet?

I'll be visiting the NW In some time soon. Is there anything new going on, or Peking still the place to visit? What's the score in Merrillville, IN?

trainbum17
03-19-03, 09:22
Hey, guys? (and the gal's that are listening)....
If I wanted to talk about the suckasss war that the younger Mr bush is starting to vanquish his daddy's reputation, I'd go to a political website. Just exactly what does the state of world affairs have to do with getting laid? I thought that was what we were here to talk about...If I am mistaken, please set me straight.

Bukake
03-19-03, 09:36
We ARE here to get laid. However Antonio had to open up his yap and start a debate on world affairs. Schtick was merely putting his ferry ass in check. Antonio is a poor example of a true hobbyist

trainbum17
03-19-03, 20:48
heheheh...action, in Merrillville?

Gary Man
03-19-03, 22:27
and now for something completely different.............
i went to PS late last nite.

the good thing:
i've been a frequent visitor and am known to the ladies there. perhaps it was because it was a "slow" nite, but i was offered a 3sum. unfortunately i did not have enough funds. it seems my girl, whom i've know for a long time is getting burned out, as the session wasn't as great as it's been in the past. but a good time nonetheless. YMMV

the bad:
as i was leaving, i looked up and noticed a sign: this building is for sale. i wonder how long thats been there.

Ben Dover
03-20-03, 15:13
A three-some from P & M?? I too have thought about it, but the oportunity never presented itself (ie, never found two good ones at the same time.)

By the way, how much did the girls want to do it?

I once asked both dancers at the bookstore to go into the provate room, but they really didn't want to and I didn't push it.

Gary Man
03-20-03, 15:16
ben dover
it was at peking, not P & M. 300

Warpig2000
03-20-03, 20:20
Chingon: I'd noticed a For sale sign on the building previously, but I thought it was for the other half of the building which formerly housed a storefront church (curiously enough), instead of the Peking Spa itself. Hope I'm right.... if anyone talks to the Mamasan and/or the staff and finds out what is going on, by all means let us know.

was suposed to be back in NW Indiana this week but won't be shipping out due to medical problems. Still would like to know if anyone might have a clue where Judy went- older caucasian who used to work at Pete and Mabels, whom Mabel barred from the bar. If anyone knows anything please backchannel me, warpig_y2k@yahoo.com

SamaRy
03-20-03, 22:44
Originally posted by chingon
and now for something completely different.............
i went to PS late last nite.

the good thing:
i've been a frequent visitor and am known to the ladies there. perhaps it was because it was a "slow" nite, but i was offered a 3sum.

Did a 6 hand massage couple of months ago.... only 1 would do any of the extras.. the other 2 just laughed and watched..... ????? Kinda weird.....

Prefer the normal.... or if all would join in.....

BTW: been a regular for many years... this is a MUST!!! they only do things like this if they recognize you....

Gary Man
03-21-03, 03:23
Warpig2000:
what startled me about the for sale sign was that it said "this entire building is for sale: office, warehouse, etc."
when i walked in, a door inside was open and i could see into the north side of the building. i'm under the impression that they occupy the entire building now. it wasn't like that before.

Warpig2000
03-21-03, 12:50
Chingon, maybe some of us 'mongers' could buy out the property and .... well, collect rent on occasion ;)


Got word back from X-man backchannel, which told me that Judy had rented an appartment down the street and said she couldn't afford it...so she (alledgedly) moved to Indianapolis. X-man sends his regards to the group, he has not been posting due to computer difficulties (must have been a friends' computer). He says he will be back soon with 'loads of new info'- lets hope so, we could use some on topic informative posting again. And if anyone knows something more _specific_ about Judy I'd like to know, but I might have to run over to the Indianapolis forum and ferrett out what is going on in the strolls over there...

Ben Dover
03-21-03, 13:43
I wondered what happened to x-man.

Bobc31
03-21-03, 14:52
Not that anyone will shed a tear but I noticed the signs for the Seoul Spa have been out and appears shut down.

Ben Dover
03-21-03, 14:58
Where was the Seul Spa?

Disco
03-21-03, 16:00
Coming up to the riverboats with a friend tomorrow afternoon. Where can you go afterwards to spend our winnings. Any info would be appriciated.

Bobc31
03-21-03, 17:51
Ben
Seoul Spa was in Munster just south of I94/Calumet Ave exit.

PoorKuntryBoy
03-21-03, 20:38
Warpig2000-

We don't need to buy our own a building - we all need to move to freakin' Houston, Texas! I was looking at the eros escort site, and surfing the sites of visiting escorts, and I ran across a site where ALL of the escorts worked at an incall place, and there wasn't just one incall place, there were FOUR of them! Stress Relief places that are open 24 hours a day! The websites said appointments could be made, but walk-ins were also welcomed! There were American and Latin women on the site, and they looked freakin' incredible! A lot of D-cup sizes! So, I'm thinking that these places have to be jack shacks, like here. You go in pay $500 to have a busty goddess stand two feet away you while you give yourself a helping hand. But I checked the Houston board and found out that these places aren't jack shacks. You can get an hour FS, including bbbj for a little more $ than at the Peking - and it's two pops per session, not one pop then you're toweled off and waving goodbye to the mamasan!

In the strip clubs down there you can negotiate for FS or bbbj in the club, for a $100!

So, buy building? Buy a building? We don't need to buy no freakin' building! We should move to Texas, OR get smart! I don't know how many of us mongers/ hobbyists there are in this area, a minority I'm sure, but I'm also sure that we pack a significant economic punch. I know guys who spend between $300-$500 a pop every time they go to a strip club and get what? How many of us have been disappointed or rushed at the Peking? How many are tired of dealing with some 1 -3 scale, wired, crackhead or some "are you done yet, queen"?

I say that here and now we draw our own line! Let the word spread far and wide that we all: stop cruising, stop going to the parlors that only offer hj or self-service, and stop going to the strip clubs!

We stop doing all of this keep our hard-earned money in our pockets until we start getting the kind of service we want - the kind of service we deserve! This has been a seller's market for too long!

To the streetwalkers we say if you want our money to fill your little pipe, you'd better make sure that our big pipe is well taken care of first - and you'll know that we're done when you taste the cum!

To the massage parlors we say: we love asian women, but american, european and latin women are nice too! If we pay for an hour we want a freakin' hour! And as far as hj's go -- I've got hands! If I wanted an hj, I'd get a bottle of lotion, a Jenna Jameson video, do it myself and save $80 bucks!

To the strip club owners here's what we say: you want our cover charge, you want us to buy the watered down booze, the overpriced beer, then we not only want to see some asses shaking and titties bouncing, we want to be able to see the top of somebody's head as they perform the disappearing snake trick! We want the snake to be able to meet the kitty cat! Otherwise we're not going to your club, your club'll turn into a freakin' ghost town, no girl is gonna give you a hundred bucks a night to work your place, cause she ain't even gonna make fifty cents there without us!

And to the lovely, cock teasing strippers, if you want to continue to make $200, $500, or a $1,000 bucks a night from us, well, sweetie baby, be ready to put some lipstick on the dipstick and ride the snake. And if you can't do that, then I suppose you can always put all your valuable work skills to use at a Taco Bell, a McDonalds, or a Burger King. You can make as much at these places as you make at the club - if you work over 120 hours a week!

This war on hobbyists and mongers has to stop today! Let the revolution begin now!

Big D
03-21-03, 21:13
PKB,

I hope your revolution turns out better than this plan for increasing the quality of the commercial sex in the region. Googly made this argument in June 2002, and your consumer-oriented approach reminded me of it...

<<<Hello my friends,

By your comments about my $200 BJ, I see you think I may be crazy, but perhaps "crazy as a fox", eh? Please bear with me.

I am an economist, fairly recent to the US, having spent the last few years in the former Soviet Union helping them adapt their economies.

I did not realize $200 was so much for nice BJ, but that is besides the point. From reviewing your posts, it is obvious that there are not enough good-looking street walkers to satisfy the demand.
Are you surprised? At $20 or so, what girls besides crackheads and such will be tempted? Now, "Lady" and a guy (jokingly) offer to give me BJ for $200. Don't you see? If we offer way over-market prices (see Milton Friedman's work) we will increase the supply of desirable women so that we me all be amply serviced by beautiful housewives, coeds and more.

So, because of my work and my income, I intend to offer $150 and more for BJ, and even more for FS.>>>

For the record, the housewives and coeds appear to have gone back to giving blowjobs for the cost of Posches and Cap'n and Cokes, respectively.

All power to the revolution!

HappyGardener
03-22-03, 18:17
Since we are on a war theme on this post......
I ran across this the other day.


"Naturally, the common people don't want war, but after all, it is the
leaders of a country who determine the policy, and it is always a simple
matter to drag the people along whether it is a democracy, or a fascist
dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no
voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders.
That is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being
attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing
the country to danger. It works the same in every country."


-- Hermann Goering, 1939

Buffalo Bill
03-22-03, 21:08
[QUOTE]Originally posted by peter_girth
. Who was it that said "live by the sword, die by the sword", or something to that effect?? Don't know who first said it, but it certainely was true for Jack Kennedy and that stupid war that he started.

s w seeker
03-23-03, 00:47
I drove by the Seoul Spa, The signs are still up, the truck is still in the lot and the "open" sign was lit. They probably won't be able to keep this up for long.

I was hoping for a "Welcome" to this forum. I guess I picked a bad time to join.

Happy Hunting, SWS

Peter_Girth
03-23-03, 18:20
Went to Peking yesterday, Kathy was available so I figured I should go with the sure thing, not having been there in a while. Would liked to have tried Jenny or Angie but the (new?) mamasan is not all that friendly and I did not feel like trying to engage her in a conversation. They do seem to be conveniently able to forget how to speak english when they don't want to talk, don't they? I did not leave disappointed though, it would be pretty hard to imagine either of them outperforming Kathy.

Cruised by Broadway on the way home, nothing along the lines of sws out, but here is a little tip for you guys. There is a little restaurant right there on Broadway and 7th named "The Flava" that serves Caribbean, as in Jamaican, style food. I had seen it before but never really had the inclination to stop but yesterday I was really starving after leaving Peking so I decided to give it a try. The place is pretty good, they have jerk chicken, rib tips and fish, pretty mild compared to some I have had before but the jerk sauce they serve with it means business so you can heat it up to your heart's content. A big mural of Bob Marley on the wall, (loud) reggae music playing, pretty much a guarantee that if you are white you will be the only white boy in the place. They have parking in back but I don't think I would park back there, especially at night, better to park right in front of the place on Broadway. The place is not cheap but it is worth it. Definitely something different.

Oddjob
03-23-03, 23:24
Welcome to the forum sw seeker. You joined during one of the many off-topic discussions so let me be the one to welcome you. I'm a longtime State Line cruiser and do remember Terry and her Camaro. My all time favorite in the Hammond area was Charlotte. I remember the times Charlotte and some of the other girls would talk Sam (???) into renting out his back room in the old hotel there on State for $5 for your $20 one shot. There were so many ladies back in those days it was unusual to pick up the same girl time after time, but Charlotte was always the best. BBBJTC and didn't spill a drop. There were times that I picked her up 3 times in a week. Unfortunately, she is no longer with us, but she was quite a lady. Another favorite was a girl from NC (Debbie?) who was up here a few times and really rocked my world. I don't think that I have picked up more than a couple girls over the last ten years or so, but Hammond/Cal City used to be the absolute best.....