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Soul Vitamin

08-31-04, 22:49

I think an increase in prices is an optomistic view. The new law is a big step toward eliminating the adult oriented AMPs and MPs in Illinois. That is the intent of the law - chase out the AMPs.

If I'm an AMP owner or an AMP girl, why is it assumed that I have loyalty to Rkfd or Illinois and I will stay? Why would I stay in Illinois and put up with these restrictions and the next wave that's sure to come? If I'm an AMP girl, I'm staying in California. If I'm an AMP owner, I'm moving my shop to a state where I can draw from a wider talent pool. The Powers know this. Maybe I'm wrong and I'm under estimating Coco's loyalty to the area vs her greed of money.

If the Amps stay open, I predict a drastic decrease in the quality of girls and in the quality of service. Think of the posts you read about from other areas about a handshake from a middle aged, less than desireable, has been provider. The best AMP girls will be in California, New York, Atlanta...not Illinois, not Rkfd. As for the supply and demand theory, not me. I won't add to the demand. Not for that. The Powers know this too. Eliminate the demand, you eliminate the problem.

I think of that article about street prostitution that I posted. The Powers know that they can't solve that problem. There is no good answers to that one. Too many social issues attached to it; poverty, drug addiction, ect, ect. A sw has no where to go. She's stuck in Rkfd, in her dumpy little apartment with no money and a need to survive. Not to mention the cost of waging such a war. Whether through strict enforcement or the development of social progams.

These things can't be said about the AMPs. There aren't the social issues attached and the cost is affordable. The Powers know that they can win this one. How much can it cost to pay a guy to walk through the AMPs and check for licenses. The judges and prosecutors are on salary, so it doesn't cost anything to throw a case together and hand down big fines. If it doesn't already exist, throw together a provision that a business can be shut down for x number of violations.

The real winners are the lingerie shops. The Powers are scratching their heads in confussion as they try to convince the courts that they are within their rights by telling a business that you can't have a closed door when modeling lingerie. Honestly, I don't think the Powers can win that one. What will they try next, mandatory licensing of all L.S. workers? That means you too Victoria Secret!! The only way I see them closing down the L.S. is with a prostitution charge, like they did with Kelly's. The city screwed themselves by allowing them to operate for so many years.

We've been watching this for a while. It started within the city with the LS ordinance, moved to the AMPS with several ordinances used, and has now been pushed to the state with Rkfd elected officials leading the charge the whole way. The snowball is growing.

I hope I'm wrong, but can anyone convince me? My outlook is pretty negative. I think in a few years we'll come back to this board and post about the good old days in Rkfd.

World Wise

09-01-04, 12:09

Spent last evening and also Sat evening in Rockford. After a nice dinner, I trolled the usual strolls and found a much better selection than previously! On Sat evening, there was a wedding at the Asian social hall at Broadway and 9th that had things really popping. In the crowd there were many providers milling about on the street, at least 6, by my count. I met a blond 30 year old, with whom I developed an immediate bond.

Last night I met Brandy who lives south off of 11th Street. She was looking for a short term part time job, and I was able to assist her ina small way.

Glad to say that things are looking up for old Rockford.

Sugar Bush

09-01-04, 14:57

Just a little bit of feedback about the Sycamore place for you guys. They are a legit massage place. Went there 2 times with in 2 weeks, I had the same girl both times. She gave a great massage but nothing else.

You Love It

09-01-04, 16:13

Went to Pine Tree. Saw Gina, very attractive tall and young korean girl. Although none of them say where they are from, the fact they speak korean is a small tip off. You pay your $40 for house and the request was an addil $160 for fs. Not gonna happen, so I said $60 and finally agreed on $80 for cvb. I was blown away (yes pun intended) but if u can imagine the sound of a bathtub almost finished emptying its water into the drain....it was the same sounds from her mouth. She did her job like she was out of air and she thought my balls had the needed oxygen. Surprised she didnt get whiplash. No Complaints. I have nothing bad to say about the place, except they are a little optomistic about pricing. All girls I saw were attractive. Buddy got hj for $60. My advice for any of these places that offer baths is for you to bring your important belongings into bath / shower room with you. Do not leave such items in room while u are not in it. So total spent was $120, and cant help but think that in Curacao I could of had 4-5 (out of 150 to choose from) beautiful Colombians with f.s. and all at same time for that price! Refer to my post under caribbean, lesson antillies, Curacao for more info on that.

On a side note, my friend went to state street station that night and got some fun in the vip room for 1/2 a bill. Anyone else have an expierence like that there?

Iowa Guy

09-01-04, 16:36

In regards to Sycamore 's new Spa, I called yesterday and Asian woman said they were open!

Spramanator

09-02-04, 07:17

Hello all,

This is just a warning for those of you that go the SW scene. Went out cruising on mon night/tues am around 1 am. Did not see much but on 11th by the notel on 11th and Harrison (the name escapes me) I picked up a fairly attractive young skinny brunette named "Wednesday" Beware. She is devious and a thief. I knew right away that something was up when she tried to get me to turn here and there. I of course told her that I was not comfortable taking her directions and that I knew of a place. For all I know she was trying to lead me to where her bf was waiting for us with god knows what in mind. She started a BBBJ while I drove and then asked if I had a condom. I said no and she told me to stop at the gas station and she would run inside and get one. I told her ok but to give me the $$ until she returned. Well that is when she got all hyper and said no way, and that I would ditch her. I reasoned with her that I wanted a BJ and why would I ditch her as I picked her up. She became beligerant and threatened to call LE if I did not stop the car and let her out. I told her to give me my $$ back and I would stop. She told me again that she would call LE. I told her to go ahead and then asked her what was she going to tell them, that she was giving some guy a BJ for $20 and he wanted his $$ back because she was not going to finish the job? I mean she took two licks and then all of a sudden she wanted to get out. She said that she was going to say exactly that and I told her there was no need to call LE as I would drive her to the LE station myself. She got all nervous and pretended to use her "cell phone" (turned out to be a wooden box lol) Anyway as I was slowing down for a stop light the dumb ***** jumped out of my car and rolled off into the curb, got up and kind of limped dashed off. I figured if she needed the money that bad then so be it. Went to ground zero and picked up a hot older blonde named BJ. Told her my story and got a BBBJ for $10 as that is all I had left on me. Asked for contact number but as I was a first timer for her she would not give it out, which I understand. She was very pleasant though and very flirty. I will definately have to seek her out again.

On another note I do agree that when picking up a SW during the day, take her to a notel. There is no need to do that thing in a car in broad daylight. Especially if there are children around. I mean, come on let's use some common sense. Not saying that anybody on this board does that though. Personally when I pick them up at 1 am it is usually a spur of the moment deal and I make sure that any litter that I might have gets taken care of properly and I make sure that I park on a dark street where everyone is asleep, or at least seems to be asleep.

Long one again, but hopefully some will learn from my mistake and watch out for "wednesday"

Think with head one and head two will have some fun,

Spram

RealFun

09-02-04, 11:44

Sun Spa in Sycamore:

220 E. State St in downtown Sycamore, across from the Clark gas station, is now open. You can park in the back. You know I'd toftt if I could, but that's a long ways from Madison, WI. 815-899-2700.

RealFun

09-02-04, 12:34

Actually, just after I made that last post I checked it out again on mapqest and it said the drive time is 1 hr 40 min, and you know you can usually make it in less time than they say. That's not as bad as I originally thought when I just took a quick look at a map. But it seems like a long route, they tell me to take I90 to Genoa Rd.

To anyone that knows the Rockford/Sycamore area, what is this the quickest way? It seems like it may be better to take 20 south to 64 or maybe even to I88. Thanks.

Also they've been open for about a month. They claim to have a couple of girls. When I asked ages they said the girls are in their 30's. You can either park in a nearby lot a half block away or park behind the spa and walk to the sidewalk... whatever that means, I'm sure it makes sense when you get there.

Mr Stinky

09-02-04, 13:23

Realfun

Coming from WI, you might be better off taking I90 toRkfrd and catching I39 south. Exit 39 east on the Rt 64 exit and head east. Takes you right into sycamore. I don't know if it's shorter, but you don't mess with secondary roads until you hit 64. Be careful in any event. State LE is watching for speeders all along that corridor.

DJ

CaptAm22

09-02-04, 16:40

90 to Genoa road is a safe bet. Then in Genoa (the town) you pick up 72 a short bit to 23 which goes down to sycamore. Those from Chi obviously are closer and can go 47 south to either 72 (then down 23) or straight to 64 into Sycamore. I'd say Sycamore is 30 min. more from Rockford, Real. Only you could say if that extra hour (both ways) is worth it or not.

Strider

09-02-04, 17:14

Real, Genoa road is actually pretty good; I take it to Belvedere all the time. ;-) Simplest, though is 39 all the way down to 64; then take 64 to Sycamore.

Slapshot

09-03-04, 02:44

Seen quite a few SW's last night, nothing to get excited over, just the usual worn out trailer trash filth that made Rockford famous, however I did see a rather cute looking WSW on Broadway, was around 11PM, was wearing red shorts, early 20's, dark hair. Was sitting with some nignogs near that Grand Hotel then walked down a block or so east into that liquor store, sat out in front eating a candy bar then that was the last I seen of her. I should have tried to get her attention but she wasn't making eye contact.

Talked with a slim young BSW near 7th, was wearing a red jacket, looked good, said her name was Tia & that she lived on 5th, gave me her address but I forgot it. Anyone know her? I wasn't 100% sure she was 100% female so I passed, the voice didn't seem right & there's at least 3 or 4 black TV's that you see out here.

El Ricardo

09-03-04, 15:15

Sun Spa in Sycamore:

Yes you can park in the back, but if you just walk in the back entrance, you'll find yourself in an Optomitris Shop. The nice lady will instruct you to walk out their front door and you are then right by the outside entrance to Sun Spa. There is also a stepping stone path around the west side of the building that will get you to the same destination without the visit to the eye doctor.

I haven't been there yet because they were closed last weekend when I was there. During this past week when I called in, they said they wouldn't be open til after Labor Day (Monday through Saturday; 10 AM to 10PM) Better call if you're heading there this weekend.
ER

Muskateer3

09-04-04, 10:21

This weekend might be hard to get around..The big Waterfront festival is going on downtown..Lots of LE and streets blocked off.

Good Luck

Okey Guy

09-04-04, 11:36

Guys,

I was in heaven for two days. I had two dates with " Taylor Of Rockford"

She is a young tiny lady lady with great service. Her price is high.

She will not offer GFE but she does greek if you are not too big.

I will see here again as my funds become available. It might be hard to get appointment with her as she is back in school. She goes to a local college in Rockford.

Taylor would not allow me to take her picture so I do not have one to post. Who knows, she might let me after I see her for the third time.

Can someone tell me what "TOFTT" means ?

Happy hunting

Okey Guy

09-04-04, 11:41

Royal Spa in Rockford on Main street

Guys went there and I had an experience that I will not forget.

Went there yesterday at around 2 pm and had MIMI - about 36 years old Asian

She started to kiss me and hold my "jewels" I knew I was going to have a great afternoon.

Dis the table shower thing. She washed my "jewels" real clean.

Once in the room, more kissing - french kissing.

Before you knew it, I had her naked and without thinking about it we did it without condom and I came inside her. After I came she did a BBBJ and sucked all the "love juice".

I was scared about the STD - did it without protection !

MIMI told me that she would never do that but for some reason she was horney that day. Well I was worried still.

I am going to get myself tested again.

I will go see MIMI again - beside the fear of STD what a SERVICE!

BJ Daty

09-06-04, 15:27

Okay Guy,

Give details like price etc. tip and such please.

RealFun

09-07-04, 05:57

Okey Guy - how about the way Mimi gives great "face?" By that I mean she can really turn on a seductive look better than just about anyone I've ever met. The eye contact, the expressions, the way she seems sort of aggressive and impatient to get things going.... Her bod - not tight like the hotties at PT & P, but in every other non-physical respect she is white hot. A girl has got to be well into her 30's to be able to turn it on the way Mimi does. Her age works for her much much more than it works against her.

BJ Daty - when I saw her it was $50 for the house and $120 for the tip with very little haggling. I was really caught off guard when mama asked me for the house. The best I could do was try to get mamasan to PROMISE that I'd get the full hour. She didn't have a friggin clue what I was talking about. But it was real dead so I didn't let it worry me too much.

The only downside to my visit with Mimi was that she seemed to be trying to rush me. She either came or did a great job acting like she did. I really do not know which, and don't care since she did such a great job acting. But then from there it was lets boom boom finish. She was EXTREMELY sneaky about it, she seemed so genuine like she wanted it to last forever... but the movements and rhythms she used I recognized as the skilled moves of an experienced rush artist. I should say artiste.

Anyone that has any degree of fantasy about "older women" (not that she's that old, but she has the skills and style of older women) should definitely check her out. All the little girls of the other amps are a dime a dozen. Even Tokyo, with its usual staffing of women in their 30's-40's, rarely has a girl that works it like Mimi. She reminds me VERY much of a lady at Tokyo named Yoko; about a year ago she wasn't there very long. She also reminds me slightly of the famous Connie.

Chi Guy

09-07-04, 09:59

Okey Guy,

TOFTT means Take/Took One For The Troops

Oddjob

09-08-04, 02:18

Old time Peking Spa (in Indiana) user who was in Rockford Tuesday. Decided to check out PT and was very pleasantly surprised with Pinkie, a very pretty and shapely young lady. My experiences were excellent and I was impressed with the decor (I got the room in the back, after the shower). The table shower was first rate and she took care of all of my prurient desires with the aforementioned fees (.4 house for an hour, asked $.6 but took $.2 when pressed). Two items of note for all you mongers out there. The are remodeling PT and you have to walk in past the construction workers (during the day) and secondly, Rockford is paving State Street between Fairview and Alpine which has traffic down to a single lane in each direction and snarled traffic pretty badly today. This covers the area of both the PT and Osaka. Maybe traffic will get us all a better deal?????

El Ricardo

09-09-04, 10:03

Sun Spa in Sycamore:

Looks like the earlier "no way!" post is correct. I stopped in there last night, walked through the wide open front entrance and found myself standing in a hallway with several rooms on either side. They were either open or with curtains (no doors). I could hear voices in the back, but decided not to stick around. First imression is that its not too promising.

Tokyo in Rockford:

So I wound up in Rockford for an enthusiastic session with a tiny girl named Yoko (for 1.2.) I think she's fairly new to this and is planning to be here for 1 to 2 months. Maybe she'll get better with time, but I think she's going through some emotional adjustment to her new business (her old one collapsed, and she needs to support her two kids.)

She was uncomfortable with penis size (because she was small,) and I think she was just finishing her period. Pretty mediocre session. On the way out, I bumped into another girl who was a little older who was exctly what I waslooking for, but didn't get her name. i wish I had, but at the time I just wanted to get out of there. I'm not sure when I"ll want to go back.
ER

World Wise

09-09-04, 11:19

Finally found what I was looking for in old Rockford last evening!

After cruising the stroll for an hour (7Pm approx) I found a "part-timer" who was young and fresh. We had a delightful time at the local no-tell, and I plan to meet her again in a few days. She is20 y/o and just laid off from her factory job. No kids, and no boyfriend. Just exactly what I was looking for.

Love Rockford.

BigDave

09-10-04, 00:47

Visited Sun Spa in Sycamore yesterday PM. Wanted to see what was available, so I opted for the half hour for 40. A nice Middle aged asian led me to a room and told me to undress. A nice massage witha happy ending! We talked a bit about Rockford spas and she asked me what I usually pay and for how long! Extras are definately available for between 1.2 &1.4! Just ask, don't be shy about it. I will definately be going back when the funds become available. Get it while you can, cause I don't think Sycamore will put up with this for very long. I think they will be real easy to put out of Bus. for pros.

Stay safe and strap up guys!

BigDave

BJ Daty

09-10-04, 02:03

finaly got back to the rock, did the stroll there is alot out there but I got spooked by a girl at the bank too good to be true. went for a closer look and saw a black intrepid in the parking lot.

So with money in my pocet I drove to sakura not whanting to go home with cash LOL.

Momasan Sue meet me at the door and took me to the sauna. Then she did the ts not bad but not the best.

Sat in the room for a few then in walked the youngest looking girl I have seen in an amp. Her name is honey. She is thin with fake b cups and long nips.

The massage was outstanding really she may be a massuse.

The main event was not spectacular but it was not her falt. I need to get some vitamin V. YOu young kids laugh but junior is not as young as I feel.

She did not give up she let me drive at first but when the going got rough she took over.

The only negetive to Her program is an anoying voice that she uses I think some may find it attractive as I did in the beginning. also no dfk no kissing at all wich may explain juniors week stature.

well all in all Honey is 8 for looks 9 for effort 10 for massage and 3 for voice.

40 door 120 tip front end and I gave her an extra 20 on the way out. No price hageling and I was there over an hour.

CheeseMan

09-14-04, 01:52

Gents!

I've been to Rockford a few times but only to Paradise and Pinetree.

Suppose I'm at Paradise, how do I get to Osaka and Sakura from there? Sorry, geographically impared Wisconsin farm boy, have problems once I'm off of the pasture on the back 40!

What time do they open on Monday morning?

Thanks! I promise to post an account of my adventure!

Cheeseman

Muskateer3

09-14-04, 09:46

Top News In Town. Rockford is going to post names and pics of mongers who drive around town and pick up. This starting now. Alderman and LE are working hard to do this before election date. Be safe and look for a new location. There is going to be a website with these findings posted.

Mr Stinky

09-14-04, 12:17

And the other shoe starts to fall.

It was reported on the local Rockford news last night that the alderman for the district covering "the stroll" and Seventh St has proposed to the city counsil that pictures be taken of any "john" caught with a known prostitute. The names and pictures would be listed on a web site for all the world to see. The city counsil delayed action for 3 weeks to check on other communities who have instilled this method.

Sounds like everybody needs to invest in a fake beard and sunglasses.

DJ

Head First

09-14-04, 13:19

I made a visit to Osaka over the long Labor Day week-end. Met "Chamois", 20 something, tall and skinny with an enhanced top and a cute little giggle way about her. Sauna, shower, massage and fs for a Franklin, plus house.

So much for my " Room # 1 " theory.

Spramanator

09-14-04, 17:34

Hello all,

Did the stroll yesterday at around 10am. LE was out in force, cars and bikes. I finally saw a HSW. Made eye contct and got a smile so I did the around the block thing to check her out more closely and when I approached she was chatting away with a bike LE. Decided that was just too riskyfor me. Now I know she was a SW/decoy LE as she made all of the right signs. Eye contact and gentle wave. With er talking to LE just made me think she was LE. Damn it figures. All this time searching for a HSW and she turns out to be most likely a decoy LE. Hey LE if you are reading this as I am sure you are. Why pick on me? lol As I am the only one who ever asks for info on HSW I feel kind of special that you are trying to just catch me lol.

Anyway drove around and saw the usual lot, BSW (couple of them have to be men) Crackheads etc. Nothing worth taking to a no tell so I went to the Exec in Belv. Post on that acct is in Belv section.

As always, looking for info on HSW lol

Take care and happy hunting,

Spramanator

Chi Guy

09-14-04, 18:57

Cheeseman,

Both places are west of Paradise. To get to Osaka, go west on State past Alpine and it will be on the south side of the street on the west side of the lower level of a two-story shopping strip. If you are going to Sakura, take Alpine south from State and turn right at the light at Harrison. You'll see a McDonald's on the south side of the street. Turn left just past the McDonald's and follow the road behind McDonald's to the shopping strip and you'll see Sakura on the east side of the strip.

CaptAm22

09-14-04, 22:19

This is a test, this is ONLY a test to check on my post-a-bility from my Unit (so to speak). If this had been an actual post, you would all be instructed to either agree with me heartily or ridicule me immensely. Thank you for your time!

Ken Blue Eyes

09-14-04, 23:13

Greetings,

I just received posting status so this report is delayed a few weeks from my actual visit. On another board, Real Fun recommended that I give the amp experience a try, even though my needs are usually quite modest: lap dancing or massage with happy finish.

Anyhow, I headed down to Rockford and stopped at the PT, intending just to check things out and learn about the massage scene and table shower. Told the mamasan that I was a regular at another Rockford AMP and was giving PT a try. That got me immediately through the door and into a room where I was greeted by Apple. Paid the house fee of $40, if I recall correctly.

In short, we really hit it off. The shower was excellent . The massage was also terrific. Apple's English is quite good, and she knows how to tease and please. Went for a very Full body massage with a happy finish for $80. Didn't ask for BJ or FS, but there was a lot of teasing and porn star fantasy moments. I accidentally shorted her $30 when counting; she was quick to point out my error not rude in any way. I'd go see her again. During our conversation, I asked if she had a boyfriend, and she (laughingly) said that money was her boyfriend).

I realize that Executive probably wold have been cheaper, but I felt that I had received my money's worth. In fact, I told Apple that she should have charged $80 for the massage/Table shower and $40 for the finish. She acted indignant but laughed.

I left very happy and will probably be back.

Mr Stinky

09-15-04, 12:10

Hey Spram,

It's not unusual for LE on bikes to stop and "chat" with the ladies on the street. Did I say chat? I meant harrass. I've been in the area long enough to know that this is part of the method to clean up the neighborhood. Stop the SW's and tell them to go home and not return.

Could it have been a decoy? Maybe, but more than likely just the usual harrassing.

DJ

Silvio

09-15-04, 14:55

Ken Blue Eyes

WTF you mean you told here you should be charging $80 for a HE. Dude your about to fuck up the market for said service with putting those ideas in their head. Dont do that again. Going rate is $40 leave it that way. Dont get me wrong I'm glad you had a great time. But shit like that gets us poor mongers holding our own junk if you know what I mean.

Silvio

09-15-04, 14:56

Any american Type Spas like Executive in Rockford but provide full service like the old Spa34 with that quality of women. PM me if you'd like.

Eisner58

09-15-04, 16:26

I've been visiting AMPs in the Rockford area and wanted to share my experiences. I have been to PT and saw Pink (twice), Paradise (Michelle), Osaka (not sure who), Sakara (not sure who - very small gal), and Royal (Candy). Experience is nearly identical all around, like they all were trained at the same academy. Best sessions were at Osaka and Royal. The Osaka gal DFKs which I love, and Candy at Royal though older gives the best massage and the best overall effort. DATY at all though I pass. I Always go for the works to check the service routine. I like to talk to them but have yet to find one who can speak the language well enough to heat up the session. Does the academy only teach "OK baby," "massage too hard baby?," and "I get hot towel ok baby?"? - seems that is all I remember. I likely will bore of these AMPS - they need to mix up the activity and learn the language. Drove by the Belvediere shops late afternoon yesterday but passed - seems the downtown is too busy - I prefer a quieter setting. Any advice on Rockford outcalls?

Cheers

Taco Malo

09-15-04, 19:13

Man I love to hear about a fellow mongers good first time experiences.

Just got paid today - too bad my job is in jeopardy or I'd be getting myself to PT for a little FS!

RealFun

09-16-04, 04:04

WHEW! Ok, welcome back Goo! And way to be smart about watching your money, I need a little bit of that kinda discipline. And I have to agree with you, its great to see all these new experiences posted.

To Ken Blue Eyes, glad it worked out for you. I'd have to agree with Silvio about helping to hold down prices, but in a kinder gentler more understanding way. Good job on faking being an experienced amp client, it got you through the session. But I'm pretty sure that eventually Apple had you pegged for a relative newbie. No biggie there, it can't be helped and these girls are super keen on that kinda thing. Which actually makes your upsell comment even less damaging.

In the big scheme of things, one new guy throwing out a comment like that will have absolutely no effect on the overall market. But I think Silvio makes a good point that there are better ways to compliment the girl without honing in on what a fantastic $$ value the experience was, that you woulda gladly paid more, etc. Also it seems to me that your point to her wasn't so much that you woulda gladly payed more for the overall session. Although most guys would feel that the release is the more $$ valuable part of the session, you were trying to impress on her the irony that the legit portion of her massage was so good as to be as good as or better than the finish. Am I right on that?

Usually due to the language barrier a nuance like that would go over her head, but obviously she caught it. I say this because you say her english was pretty good, and then her playful protestation at the end. Its still a point of pride for her to make the finish the most memorable part; no matter how good the massage, she wants you to be blown away with skills of seduction, passion, intimacy, eroticism that brought you all the way and will hopefully inspire you to specifically seek her out. To her the massage is just a technicality to dispense with, a vehicle to get you to the good stuff.

Am I close?

Anyways, the street ain't my scene but definitely a big thanks to Sprammy and David John for the warnings. Especially the info about pics. Disguises may help a bit, but I assume that was said in jest. This has been done before. Besides just face shots they may also get license plate numbers. Last thing you need is for a s.o. who shares a car with you to get ridiculed at work because someone connects her veh with a monger posting. Yikes!

Play safe. But remember, to play safe you gotta PLAY! So get out there and keep it real, keep it fun, keep it...
RealFun

Gooch

09-16-04, 07:10

Does anybody know if Apple at PT is the same apple that used to be at Exercise Spa in Mt Prospect?

Quick Nick

09-16-04, 07:48

This is just a thought regarding the potential licensing problems for massage parlors starting next year. Why could'nt they just re-open as a different service such as a tanning spa? The providers could be "tanning assistants". And, it certainly would not be unusual for patrons to be fully disrobed during the tanning session. What do you think?

On a very similar subject, is there any action to be found in any tanning spas around here? I can't help but notice that a very large number of these businesses have very, very late hours which makes me wonder.

QN

RealFun

09-16-04, 17:06

Quick Nick - not a bad plan, I thought of that, too. The thing is, people know the real deal about what's going on at a mp, amp, ls, bath house, brothel, peep show booth, etc etc. And its tolerated (sometimes very reluctantly) only when the "legitimate front" is a type of service that has traditionally been only offered to adults anyways, and primarily male adults. And the front also should be a service that even naive adults know to be a little suspicious of, and can therefor steer clear.

Tanning salons came into being after traditional fronts for adult activity were already well in place. Even street savvy adults that never partake in adult entertainment would be pretty shocked and surprised to discover that a tanning salon they stumbled into is really just a front for adult entertainment. And they would be pretty peaved to find out that they have publicly been seen going in and out of such a place.

It does happen with amps and ls's that an unsuspecting citizen wanders in expecting only legit service, and then as they progress through the visit they gradually become aware of signs that there's more to the place than what initially meets the eye.

People half expect that anytime you see "massage" services being offered, that you have to be on guard against the possibility that there may be "other" services on the menu. So they know, or quickly learn, to check for things like licensing, membership with a professional organization, or other clues that its only legit services offer.

If someone blindly goes into an ls or porn store and they see lots of dildos and fetish gear, they shouldn't be too shocked to find out about back rooms or glory holes. If someone walks into a mp or amp and its only staffed with girls with skimpy clothing, they should be able to quickly figure out the deal.

But there is no expectation of "alternative" services being offered at salons and spas that do hair, nails, tanning, etc. I actually knew of a provider that tried to get work that angle in Madison, WI. She was an exceptionally bright and business savvy and street smart girl who opened a tanning salon. I'm not sure if services were offered on the premises or if they were done off site. She was about as low key and discreet as you could possibly be. But all it took was for one specific customer who had tanned there to find out that the place was a front for other illegitimate purposes and all hell broke loose and the place was shut down with extremely little due process.

I see where you're going, though. It seems like there's just gotta be a way around things. I hope someone figures a way to at least keep a few fun places open.

Ken Blue Eyes

09-16-04, 18:06

I've got a thick skin, so no problems with Silvio's comments. My little teasing conversation with Apple about the value of the massage vs. the hand release was both my way of complimenting her on the massage but also a little dig on the actual final hand technique, which I found satisfying but a little rushed and not quite as erotic as the rest of the latter stages of her program.

Speaking of prices, I'd kind of like to hear from others as to a fair negotiated price for hand release. I know it should be significantly less than full serivice (which is well-covered on this board), but how much less.? Real is correct that I wouldn't have paid more than $120, including house, but should I have paid less than that for a simple hand release that inclouded lots of fondling, play time, and simulated (but not actual) oral.

Inquiring minds (who aren't interested in full service) would like to know.

Spramanator

09-16-04, 18:33

David,

It did not look like LE was harrasing her. They looked like they were joking around. They both had smiles on their faces. But who knows. If I see her again I will check it out.

Spram

Eisner58

09-16-04, 22:00

Thought you guys would like the attached pics.

Eisner58

09-16-04, 22:05

Final one - praise Willie.

Soul Vitamin

09-17-04, 01:06

Someone mentioned that Pine Tree is remodeling. One of the girls told me that they have been so busy that they are expanding - building another shower room and another massage room. Investing in the future - that's a good sign.

RealFun

09-17-04, 03:13

SV, that's a damn good sign.

Eisner 58, I'd like to see another pic with braids!

Cattleman

09-17-04, 05:05

Fellow mongers!

The disaster in Florida has given me a chance to check out Rockford AMPS! Moving from California (land of the AMP's) to Wisconsin a few years ago has not helped my desire for those lovely asian ladies.

Anyhow, I'll be leaving tomorrow afternoon for Florida to help family, Passing through Rockford hopefully before 10pm. Reading the past post Mimi at Royal sounds like the lady for me.

Can someone tell me what time they close and maybe best way to get there off 90.

Cheeseman - I'm near Eau Claire and if you're anywhere close and want to make a road trip to Rockford let me know.

A quick response would be great.

Will post my results in a couple weeks upon return.

Thanks!

Tencan

09-17-04, 13:38

To answer the question below about how much for a hand release. If you are going to an amp they should be from 40-60 + the house fee..but argue for 40. The LS shops in rockford charge 60 *the house fee. Belveder the price is 85 for massage and hs. Providers prices vary..but the norm is 100 for 1/2 hour and 150 for an hour. If you are paying more for a hs from a provider then you are getting taken.

World Wise

09-17-04, 16:09

Cruised the Rockford strolls last night and found LE activity to be higher that has been the norm this month. Many of the old shanks were certaintly available, but little new talent was to be found. Two WSWs hanging out near the IGA on 11th Street as usual, and several near the market on 7th south of the RR tracks. Crazy Mary was up north on 7th near the Flame, as usual.

Finally decided to call a former regular provider, who was out of action (PG) for several months. We met for a reunion that we both enjoyed.

As luck would have it, after I dropped her off at her home on the south side, I connected with my 20 y/o part timer, who had been trying to call me, but had number wrong. We re-newed our relationship, and I hope to good news to report shortly.

All in all, not a bad evening in old Rockford!

Eisner58

09-17-04, 18:01

Cattleman,

Royal is open 9am - midnight according to the sign on the door. Take 20 west off 90 and get off on MAIN - it is in the NW corner at the exit - easy to find.

Member #2473

09-18-04, 14:53

Anyone been to Hideaway lately? I have been thinking of revisiting, since my last experience was so positive. Anyway feel free to PM me with any details.

2473

aka Smknjo

CaptAm22

09-18-04, 15:27

I wonder if you mean the IGA on Broadway near 8th (definitely a common area at night), or if you still mean 11th street, there's only a Hilander (formerly Eagle) for a grocery store there. Sometimes I peel my eyes out that way, but I've never really seen anyone like what has been described along 1th street. I mainly see the nastier variety in front of the Flying Saucer area, so I usually hit the McD up 11th, eat food and go home. But then again, I usually prefer the AMP to the street anyway, but I'm just curious where you meant. A comment on tanning booth scenarios, hot girls are usually employed at all of those (like Hooters, like bar waitresses etc.) to bring in more business than anything, not to front the business like an AMP. For David John, yes, the bike patrols are a big part of their effort to keep the women off the streets, but in some ways are just band aid solutions. Basically, with jail overcrowding, they don't get arressted, or if they do, they're back in a day or two. If they move them along, they move them to just a few blocks in the area away. A good example is the pimp/SW combination that stole a car in broad daylight a few weeks ago. They were moved along already once or twice in the previous hour.

Wiggles

09-18-04, 17:30

It has been a while sine I was in the area. Which AMP has the best younger talent. I likem smaller and younger rather than the older worn out ones.

The Baron 4

09-19-04, 05:35

For someone who loves DFK, do escorts usually provide?

Need to try Royal , and see what Osaka has in terms of this, though someone mentioned Osaka can deliver a little DFK.

Echo Bravo

09-20-04, 04:24

Taste of Tokyo- A few weeks ago, had my first experience at Tokyo. I was definitely surprised by the walls that don't reach the ceilings, but once the session got going, I really didn't think about it at all. At the time was Sophia (older 7) and Linda (younger 7). 1.7 FS with Sophia. Gave it to her a little extra hard because she seemed to want it. She especially loved DATY. Went for a long time in various positions. Both completely spent and drenched by the time we were done. Really seemed to click with her. She suggested that I come back next time and see the other worker. She even introduced me to her before I left.

A bit later, went back to Tokyo to see if the younger one was there, but both of the previous two were gone. Saw Sung (older 6) FS for 1.6. Actually, I'd say 6 face, but 8 body. She enjoyed DATY too (not as much as Sophia), but with her, I explored a little bit more with some rimming. She seemed to like it. I was looking for younger, and she said one was on the way, but it'd be about an hour. I didn't want to wait. At the end of my time, I heard a young 20-something in the halls talking to the mamasan. I used the restroom afterwards and found her suitcase there. Think she'd just gotten in from the airport. Really fresh off the airplane. But, if she is the Yoko that's been mentioned, seems like her inexperience comes through. This visit was a few weeks ago, so these two might still be there.

PT- June was a nice enough girl. A 7 (instead of the 8's and up we usually see at PT). Nice medium-sized rack. Really messed up with this one due to miscommunication and only got CBJ for 1.7. Trying to clear up the cost situation right in the middle of the session really made me lose it. She had to work her way back from scratch, and had a good workout on her arm. Was initially placed in a room near the construction (north), but was moved across the hall after the TS for some quiet. Guess business is doing ok, causing the expansion. At about 9pm, there was still construction going on. And Gina was back from her vacation too (the DATY lover that I got FS for 1.4 from), but wanted to see someone new. Actually, because of the $ incident, Coco's weirdness, and the constant expectation of 2.0 for FS here, I think I've decided not to return to PT. How ironic, isn't it? FS for 1.4 and CBJ for 1.7 at the same place. (I miss Apple. Gooch, the PT Apple never worked in Mt. Prospect.)

Osaka- So last week, I stopped by Osaka for the first time since my ATF had left. I walked in, asking my customary, "So, how many workers do you have today?" She replies asking why I always ask that question with an annoyed, upset tone, as if muttering it to herself. On my way in, I see the 1 worker there at the time ducking into a room (younger 20's, maybe an 8). I use the restroom and decide that I'll come back another time, for two reasons. I didn't want to wait and I was completely annoyed by the mamasan. After leaving the restroom, I tell her that I'll come back another time and start walking toward the exit. She nearly runs me down and grabs my arm, trying to pull me back inside! I was fumbling with the lock, trying to get it open. She said to just stay, that she has a worker for me. I say, "You have to have good customer service if you want to have more customers here." She keeps pulling on my arm, and then I'm starting to get scared cause she looks like she's actually going to hit me! I manage to open the door and with her yelling something at my back, I walked speedily to my car and drove away, vowing never to return to the O.

Sakura- A few days later, I decided to check out Sakura since I hadn't been there since my first visit a long time ago. A different mamasan let me in this time. Met Tina- 25, and an 8/9 to me with enhancements and a kickin' body. Don't much like upgrades, but look nice on her. Also, very cute face. Had a great connection on a personal level. Doesn't completely remove all articles. Her dog's also at the shop with her. Was in the Rock about a year ago, I think as an Angie, and in Chicago more recently. Even told me her Korean name, which none have ever done. She's a keeper for me. Asked about other workers, and she said there was Ruby. She told me that she would get her, but returned a few minutes later and said that she was busy. Maybe Ruby's the one at Osaka? Anyone confirm? Do hope to see Ruby sometime also, without having to run into Crazy Osaka Mamasan. Have some inside info on Tina that I hope will make our encounters more intimate. I'll share this later... very rare, and very interesting.

Sorry for the long post, but wanted to brief you gentlemen since not many are posting re: their AMP visits.

Echo

Taco Malo

09-20-04, 11:20

At Lingerie - I've pretty much always paid $40 for hand release. Sometimes $60. But depends on the girl.

Just chiming in as I like paying $40 instead of $60

Dent55

09-20-04, 14:07

A story of YMMV

Pink and Cocoa, I hope you read this forum.

I will never go back to Pine Tree again ever.

First, when someone says wait a few minutes it doesn’t mean 25+ minutes!

Also, I don’t care if you are busy, if I pay for an “hour” I expect at least 45 minutes from Pink, especially if she charges full price. I don’t expect to be charge full price (160) and then after the money switches hands to be told, “we real busy, you come fast, next time we take our time”. Then about 25 minutes into the session I don’t expect to be asked “why I take so long, why I didn’t come in 5 minutes”. Pink, you may be hot enough to get some guys off in 5 minutes but if you want to do me in 5 minutes I expect to pay a lot less.

Then to add insult to injury you quick start jacking me off after I said NO, which of course totally spoils any mood left, and then to top it off ask me to help finish myself. Like I said, I can do that at home for free.

Pink, you’re spoiled and a victim of your own inflated reputation.

I have no illusions about being no more than $$$$ to these women. That being the case $=service, less service, less dollars.

Yes, I do enjoy the 60 minute fantasy that occasionally a hot asian babe makes me feel like there is no other man in the world, we’ve all been through that, but as soon as we walk outside or when we get in our cars by our selves or balance our check books; at some point we come back to reality.

That being said, my fantasies and real dollars will be taken elsewhere.

Cougar68

09-20-04, 15:13

Hi all,

I noticed an ad in the Milwaukee paper for osaka that says it is under new management. Can anyone verify this? especially after reading the last post from Echo Bravo I would like to know if the crazy mamasan is the new management!

Ken Blue Eyes

09-20-04, 18:30

Last Friday, I took the drive down to Rockford. Intended to go to Executive and check things out and then maybe negotiate hard for hand release at some amps afterwards to see how cheap I could go. Didn't quite work out the way I planned, but no complaints.

This was my first visit to Executive. To be blunt, I didn't like it. The women who were available seemed quite a bit older and harder than what I had hoped. Also wasn't too keen about the reception area which had a bunch of people in it--not too private. Passed on what was available.

Headed to Paradise for my first time. New plan was for hand release there; firm plan not to spend more than $40. Asked who was available; Mamasan said "new girl, $40 please." I had a good vibe and paid the $40. Was introduced to June, who is very thin, early 20's ( I guess), small breasted, long hair, and a wonderful small butt. Took the excellent TS, was shown the sauna (which was cold and I quickly declined) and then back to the room for a decent but not great massage.

June had a kind of cool way of pulling on my fingers during the massage--kind of popping them at the end. No flip over; she merely asked me what I would like to do with her. I was in deep lust, so decided to go for FS. Used a tactic I found here and told her $120 was all I had. She said $160, and then lowered to 140. I stuck to my guns; she said $100 for BJ; I said $40 for hand release, and she acted offended. After I paid her $40; she said she woluld do FS for $120; but not to tell anybody and that I'd have to plan on paying more next time.

I felt kind of deflated as she left with the money. Then when she came back , she was all smiles and it was all good)

Not a porn star type experience. I'm not personally into DFK, but my impression is that she isn't either, although I didn't try. Everything else was very good, and GFE-like. She said that she had only been there for 3 days. Had about a 20 inch waist and a butt you could cup with one hand. Tried mission/ and doggie. Priceless memories from my perspective, but I'm probably back to hr on future visits. This damn hobby could get too addicting and expensive.

Eisner58

09-21-04, 10:37

Ken,

Agree .16 is rather stiff given the mechanical nature most AMPS go through once the deal is stuck. It's almost like puttingmoney into a dancing chicken machine. The raincoat is always a real drag for me and have had good success getting a Russian finish sans raincoat at most AMPS. My last visit to Royal I asked to finish that way but she insisted in finishing with cbj which was rather good and did leave me drained for 2 days. I'd love to finish jacking onto to their face or chest - ever have any success doing that?

Pic for fun.

Seinfield

09-21-04, 16:02

INFO on Sakura,

Was out there about 2 weeks back.Met an awesome young lady from Korea, should be in her middle 20's. Paid .40 door fee and $1 for FS. Great services, received 2 shore sessions, two massages one before and one after, and a great FS with moan and ouch. as usual language was a great barrier but the act did not need a lot of language so overall great service at a great rate from a great girl with a great attitiute.

BTW her name was Barbie.

PM me for more info

Arfman

09-21-04, 16:42

I tried Pinetree lately, in fact, my first trip to Rockford. I have to admit it was a little different not having to prove I'm not LE or putting up with the 20 questions before even getting a handshake. It was very straight forward.

I only have a few words about Gina at Pinetree. Hot, hot, hot. I haven't seen anyone quite like her in the Chicagoland area. Great face and body. Fees, etc. were what has been previously reported on the board. But Gina's a keeper, I'm hoping to return soon.

CheeseMan

09-21-04, 18:01

Went to Sakura Monday, first trip there.

First off, thanks to RF and others who provided me with excellent directions.

Greeted at the door and rushed to a room, couple of minutes later in walks June who discribed herself as the "shower lady". I would have been perfectly happy with June, 30 ish, slender, perky "B" cups, nice ass but she was just there for the shower and massage. Shower was an "A+" effort, massage was about a "B". Througout the massage, she promised me a young, Korean girl, "very pretty and only 21 year old!" several times. About the time for the flip, she left for a moment and returned with Tina. Tina delivered everything promised, about 5'4" tall, real nice build, perfect ass, enhanced "C" cups. Giggly, ticklish, real cute smile. Really a 10 in my book.

She was so young and cute, I decided to give her a gift of $130 with no expectation of anything in return.

We enjoyed some full on the lips, light tounge kissing and lots of mutual exploration. On to main event, Tina gave a great oral warmup, including deep throat all the way in. No girl has ever been able to do that to me before! Multiple positions, nice performance, pretty sure she enjoyed herself. Did not want me to pull out after finish, we cuddled for several moments after completion. Best foreplay and afterplay ever!

Only downside is that language barrier gap was wide!

June came back in and finished massage, etc. I gave her a $20 tip also, although I don't think it was expected. Hugged, kissed, groped each other on the way out.

1 hour 20 minutes, awesome session, I'll go back there!

Note to cattleman and other Wisconsin travelers, be prepared for serious travel delays around Janesville and Beloit due to road construction. I cut through Janesville where there was a cop on every corner, so I really had to watch speed. Allow up to an extra hour up and back.

CM

RealFun

09-22-04, 04:08

Echo Bravo wrote: "Sorry for the long post..."

Hey no prob when its full of great info like that. Looks like it got the ball rolling, too. Nice to see this board full of lots of varied stories.

Couger68, Osaka isn't exactly under new management, they just keep recycling the same ad. In Madison, Pine Tree is still advertising "Grand Opening." I think these ads stay like this for two dumb reasons: one, spa owners/mgrs are just too lazy to change the ads; two, it catches the eye more and gives a "newbie" a sense that something "special" is going on.

Echo Bravo, the kooky Osaka mamasan rubbed me the wrong way, too. I'm glad I blew it off and had a nice time with Ruby. BTW EB, Ruby isn't the petite young dark haired one you saw, Ruby has lighter hair and is curvy/voluptuous in a real sexy way. What is it about Koreans, that even when they're a bit chubby they still seem so curvy and smooth and firm. As long as they're 20# or less overweight and under 40, they just don't seem saggy or sloppy. Anyways, Ruby is gone already. My session with her was more than satisfying, nothing special.

Anyways, EB you followed your instincts and left Osaka... that's good, maybe that mamasan will cop a new attitude. I always say that a good mamasan has more to do to set the overall mood and quality level of a spa than most clients realize. But I'd hold that to be more true for places where the mamasan/managers stay the same, i.e., PT & P and Tokyo. With the others, Royal and Osaka-Sakura the mamas rotate just a little less than the girls. So its probably not worth putting too much stock in them.

Chanel at Paradise and the mamasan there have been around for a while, and I think they do a fair job. Personally I get along with the mamasan there a little better, I think she's more straight up genuine and honest with me. Nothing against Chanel, she's great to me but she's on the j-o-b, can't hold that against her.

Coco is more extreme. More extremely overly friendly. Also on the j-o-b, but I don't think she's totally devoid of sincerity. She's had skyrocketing success at every spa she's managed, she's obviously doing something right. And I think she's a good person at heart, not totally fake through and through, but at the end of the day she's all about the $$$$. Fine, that's her job.

Unfortunately for Dent55, looks like you got the shit end of that stick. I been there, done that, and it sucks. You did everything right and nothing wrong and they flat out gave you shitty service. It doesn't surprise me in the least. This happened to me a few times (not each time being as extreme as your case) and I tried to have a heart-to-heart with Coco about it. I tried to convince her that sometimes its better to cut loose one or two customers and lose that revenue than to have them leaving pissed off.

I think I only got it through to her to a point. Like I don't think she intends to adopt this policy as a standard practice for all customers (as Dent55's recent experience verifies), but at least she knows me, and that I'll ***** about it, so now she warns me if they're really busy.

And she's totally cool about it. She suggests that I should come back in 30 min or an hour, or if its real late at night she'll even suggest I go somewhere else. When she does that she goes overboard apologizing and trying to not make it seem like she doesn't want me there. She says if I stay that everyone will do their best to make the experience really great (she has even offered me a snack, or promised I could get more time on my next visit, etc) and she says the girl will be really wonderful to me but we just won't have that luxury of time.

So, yes, Dent55, I hope they do read your post or that someone passes along to them your dissatisfaction. And Pink deserves all the rep she has, both good and bad. At least you can say she stands out, she's far from typical, a legend, and now apparently becoming a Rockford institution. I'm convniced that she's developing into a Coco Jr. Not that that's such a bad thing, that's just the way it is. If any amp girl is all about the dolla, then Coco is about as good a mentor as you could have. Oh well, its just the nature of the beast, 'twas ever thus.

So while I think its great that Dent55 is boycotting PT due to the Pink/Coco thing, I don't think Echo Bravo should swear off Osaka because of the kooky mamasan. She's just an old crank that has almost nothing to do with the quality of service there. I understand why you had to jet on that day, but don't let that keep you away. But anyways, if you do want to avoid her, just remember that any girl that you hear about being available at Osaka can be seen at Sakura and vice versa.

If you have a specific Osak-ura girl in mind, then call one or both before you go to see which one she's at. And, or, when you're within ten minutes of arriving, call and request that the girl you want be waiting for you at whichever spa you prefer.

Echo Bravo, not to tell you what to do or what's right/wrong for you. We all have to decide what's right for us, and as Dent55 so honestly shows, there is some emotional investment and expectation and anticipation and fantasy mixed in this and you just gotta follow your own instincts, and do what's right for you.

For example, with price. Yes, its real nice if we all try to do as much as we can to hold prices down. Its beneficial to all hobbyists in general. Ken Blue Eyes (who is, if I remember correctly, somewhat new to amps but not the hobby...) gives a classic example of how to stick to your guns and negotiate. This is especially impressive considering all the twists and turns things took. And his story is so typical, the way she leaves the room looking sad and dejected because she was low-balled on the tip... Only to return almost as giddy as if you had paid her original asking price.

So it all worked out great for KBE to hold the line. And then you look at EB's prices, and he's all over the map. To each his own. I hope that, in good time and when its right for him, that Echo Bravo does start trying to get some better deals and some consistency. Remember, in business, you don't get what you deserve, you get whatever you negotiate.

BTW, EB, the prices you state, are they with or without tip? You say you got fs from Gina at PT for $140. If that's tip and house then you got an awesome deal on that day, so I'm inclined to assume that was just the tip. But then you say you had Sophia at Tokyo for $170, which would be a lot for just the tip and about right for tip and house combined. And then you mention PT always bustin your balls for $200, which I'd assume is $40/house and $160 tip, which is too high.

No matter what, I don't think it would put much of a dent in things for PT if the six of us here discussing this, combined with the dozen or so lurkers, all agreed to boycott PT for a while.

Honestly, I love the place when its not overrun. New, clean, Coco inspires at least a "semi" before you even see the girl, etc., and the girls are consistently the hottest. But sometimes it just doesn't live up. I think all the amps have something different to offer and I just follow my mood. Sometimes, after the hour long commute I'm deep into Rockford and still can't decide which one I want to go to.

OK, now that I've put everyone to sleep with my tit-for-tat unsolicited advice to every nit-pickin' comment made about the amps, here's some news youse can use, some data from the field.
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Cookie at Paradise has been reported as 30ish, I think she's younger than that. She's also been in and out of Rockford before. I can't remember exactly where/when I saw her, but she is familiar. Cute enough, petite bod with a slightly soft belly (not a turn off, but not tight). Overall basically decent shape, kinda flat, kinda typical. But she's very comfortable in the amp scene. Good attitude and instincts, willing to please and knows how to do it. Great muscle control. Warm gfe type personality. If your mood is a bit open minded on looks, she's one of the best available in Rockford. Not that she's unattractive, but she's not especially gorgeous, like Pepi/Pink. But her personality is about the exact opposite of Pink.

Another great pick would be the Linda that EB mentioned at Tokyo. She's a few years older than Cookie. Similar comments: average to cute enough, a tad more slender, flat, fairly typical korean bod. She's been reported on several times in the last year, do a search if you want to learn more. Her style is a bit more upbeat than Cookie, Linda can be a real firecracker when she's in the right mood. Sort of a cross between Cookie and Pepi/Pink. Definitely a solid and reliable choice.

There's another one I saw at Paradise, and for the life of me I can't remember her name. She's short, rail thin, real straight med-length black hair, and one of the cuter ones I've seen in there for a while. She seemed real shy and quiet, but not in a "fresh of the boat" inexperienced kinda way. More like that's just her natural demeanor. I was beginning to fear she would be laxadasical and boring, but the session was just fine. Nothing special, she got into it nicely. YMMV, no chemistry with me, as much my fault as hers. The one distinctive feature about her was a dark all-over tan. So if you want to see her then ask for the short skinny dark girl. Its not like me to forget a name so if I remember I'll post it.

Now you see, EB, this is a post worth apologizing for the length. I haven't been able to get out much lately and my second favorite thing after going to amps is discussing them with y'all. Thanks for putting up with me.

Keep the reports coming!

Dent55

09-22-04, 11:18

YMMV part 2 (later that day, Friday Sept 17th)

Well later that night, feeling very frustrated, this mixed with a couple of Mike’s Hard Lemonades, I decided to go to Paradise. I’ve always had a good time there, so off I go. Well, as soon as I saw the girl I was to be with, I was blown away, probably a combination of everything, but I couldn’t draw my perfect Korean women any better then she looked, about 5’4”, natural b-c cups, dark tan all over, long brownish hair with light blond streaks, and a killer smile with a curvy body, more so than most Koreans.

I thought to my self, I hope she doesn’t ask for the registration to my car, cause if she does, I’m in trouble. Great TS, good massage, and long slow cbj topped off with long slow mish. Then when I came she didn’t want me to pull out, her comment was, “don’t leave me” so we kissed, petted and snuggled for another 15-20 minutes while I was inside her, this had never happened before. She had such a sexy innocent (wink, wink) demeanor. God I wanted to take her home.

Now what you all have been waiting for, she is 26 years old, has been in town for 4 days, her name is “Pepi” . Has been in Georgia, NY and California.

I sure that some guys will see her and not feel the same as I or she’ll be in a different mood, as we all have different tastes, but for me, its been a while since I’ve had that kind of rush at an amp.

Echo Bravo

09-22-04, 12:13

Real, you get the prize! Longest posts ever, but of course, very informative.

All of my prices are for the hf and tip... total. I just post it that way since that's how I always think of it going in. Whatever the hf is, I'm not willing to cough up more just because the hf is less (.4 instead of .6). I have settled on my number now though, and the last couple of times, it's worked. I'm settled at 1.6 for everything. If they complain and give me the pouty look, I just say that's what I always pay, and they take it. If not, I'm fine with walking. I really have to let the big head do the thinking now. I think I'm going to try to work steadily down to 1.4 or 1.5.

Don't know about you gents, but with Osaka being the first AMP I ever visited, I feel like it's my "home MP." Do you guys have that? I do feel the most comfortable there... like I'm home. Even though it's the most chilly in their rooms. It was nice when the mamasan wasn't there, and the girls were just managing it themselves. There was that hispanic girl that was pregnant. She was the daughter of the person who cleans up the AMP. She wanted to try learning the business, so she helped manage while Osaka had no manager. She was getting paid $10/hr- pretty good pay for the work. She worked hard at first, but then, Lucy said that she got lazy. Just chatting on the phone and watching tv all the time. She actually asked me if I wanted to "try her." I said no. She had marks or bites on her legs. Nice body though, and never been with an hispanic woman. Anyway, I do hope to be able to return to the O one day without having to see the C.O.M.

My prize for friendliest mamasan's goes to... it's a tie between Tokyo and Paradise. Both ajumma's are very sweet and accomodating- especially for the newbies. Coco doesn't even get a rise out of me.

I love it- boycott PT!!

Slow and Easy

09-22-04, 15:09

Stop at Osaka a couple of weeks ago to see my ATF Lucy. Mamasan states that she is no longer there (gave some cockamamie story) and there is a new girl. I have never had a problem with the mamasan there when I choose not to stay. I tell her that I do not have time to wait if the girl does not arrive with in 5~10 minutes. I stay dressed and will not give her money until I see the girl.

This new girl (about mid 30’s with small enhanced B cups long nips, about 5’6, about 100 lbs, yes with that giggly laugh, not bad overall) which some may have grossly understated her age in previous posts has given several names to other posters. Main event was not spectacular, average IMO. She also works at Sakura which when I there was greeted by an attractive mamasan named Lee, she said she is the new manager, had short hair. At that time only one girl available but was at Osaka (I had already seen her and passed).

Sakura supposedly has some new talent.

Tokyo- had a new girl (overall a 6, face 7, body 4, attitude 8) about 5’2, mid 30’s, had flab rolls and a bit of a stomach. If she lost the flab she could be hot. Have not tried Sophie yet but not sure of her age compared to Linda. I had only seen her once briefly at a distance, body seem okay. PM me if any one has any info on her.

Royal- had an okay session with Mimi nothing to different from the norm.

PT- have been staying away until the construction is done. Have really never had a bad time there. Sometimes they try to rush me but I remind them I have a full hour if I pay the full hour rate. Mamasan tried to rush me out one time and try to tell me she would make it up to me next time. I told her to forget that idea, you make it up now, or give my money back. She was hard pressed to give back money; however, she gave half back off the entrance. I arrived just as it was starting to get busy and when I was done she had people waiting. She did apologize and ask that I come back.

PD- stopped to see my favorite there, had all new girls. Did not stay but saw a few that looked pretty hot. Mamasan would not let me stay to get names…they were busy.

Taco Malo

09-22-04, 17:40

Then about 25 minutes into the session I don’t expect to be asked “why I take so long, why I didn’t come in 5 minutes”.

My biggest complaint with AMPs in general. They seem to be notorious with this.

Eisner58

09-22-04, 19:43

RealFun,

I think the Paradise gal you saw was Michelle. Your description and session matches what I remember.

Pic for fun.

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Cattleman

09-23-04, 07:47

Eisner58: thanks for the directions, we attempted to find it on the way up and had no luck, followed 20 to downtown and found a one way st, main, could not find Royal. Stopped by golden touch (i think) and two aged white ladies where there. Didn't stay and continued on to florida. We'll try again on way back through. Thanks for the directions, hopefully it will help!

how far is main off 90 on 20?

Sugar Bush

09-23-04, 14:22

I went to Osaka yesterday and had a session with Tina. She was nice looking, with a nice set of c- cup tits. But I had a problem with her when it came to her terms. We had agreed to 1.40 with 2 pops. After the first pop she said she was done because there was a line out front waiting to get in. I believe I was the only one there all day.

In a situation like that I think she should charge me just for the French. I tried to find the old hag that was in charge but she wouldn't come out of her room.

I don't know why I went there, PT and Tokyo are the best in my opinion.

Jack Spratt III

09-24-04, 03:58

My first post! Thanks, Jackson.

Went to Osaka (Not my first time) Saturday (9/18) @ 9pm. .4 house fee for 1 hour. 5 mins in the sauna and TS was Ok with good cleaning of a**hole.

Tina came into room in a short red teddy. I would put her nearer 5'0", cute, 20's, at least a 7. If her breasts are augmented (they ARE large for her frame) I'd have to congratulate her surgeon.

The language barrier is wide. She wanted $.5 - I offered $.2 and she pouted a bit, even with the $ in her hand. I took the cash back and said "Just the massage, then." She left the room and returned a few muinutes later with a $.3 offer. I accepted. Brief cbj before cowgirl. Wouldn't let me touch her nipples as she said a previous customer had bit them pretty hard.

She was going too short on the stroke to get me going so I turned to mish then put her legs up on my shoulders. She kept going "Oh!Oh!Oh!" till I opened my eyes and realized thad she was so small I had slid her up the table and was banging her head against the wall!
Some repositioning and a happy end.

RealFun

09-24-04, 04:55

Cattleman - I sent you a couple of pm's, I'm not sure if you checked them. Too late now, but maybe they'll help on your next trip. If for some reason you didn't get them let me know and I'll send you directions to Royal.

Ah, hell I'll do it now. If you're going from Wisconsin then pass all the Rockford exits off I90 (State St is the last) until you come to the junction of I90 and I39 which leads to Freeport. Stay in the right lane and transfer over onto I39 which leads to more Rockford exits along the south side of the city. Pass Harrison, Alpine, etc and take the exit for Main St.

It can be a little confusing because State St is also known as Business Highway 20; and I39 has a dual name, I39/State Highway 20.

Also, if you try to approach Royal by going through the inside of the city, I'm pretty sure that Main St dead ends and then picks up again further south. So you have to take other streets.

If you can familiarize yourself with State St, Alpine, Broadway and I39 you can easily get to all the amps.

From the intersection of Alpine and State you can:

1) drive a few miles east and get to Paradise just a short distance off state

2) or go two blocks west to Pine Tree

3) go 4 blocks west to Osaka

4) go about a mile south to Broadway and take that west a few miles to Tokyo

5) go a few miles south to get to Sakura

6) go south past Sakura to I39 and take that west to Main St for Royal

From Wisconsin, if going to Paradis, PT or Osaka, I take the State St (Hwy 20) exit.

For Sakura, Tokyo and Royal I take I90 to I39(state hwy 20). For Sakura I get off at Alpine; for Tokyo I take the 11th St exit and for Royal I get off at Main.

Eisner58, I remembered the girl's name, its Nikki. Although the girls do sometimes use different names. She kinda had a long chin and a kinda flat face with round eyes, real straight hair. Did the Michelle you saw match up with the hottie Dent55 describes? BTW, that pic is hilarious.

Thanks to everyone that helped me out with the Chinese apt questions I posted in other sections. Watch your pm box for personal responses sometime in the next few days. And of course you know I'll report on how it went.

Howdy to Jack Spratt III, Sugar Bush, Cattleman and Slow and Easy. Everyone's making lots of nice posts. I love a lively and informative board. I'm definitely going to follow up on some of the tips here.

Gooch

09-24-04, 07:50

Are any of the Rkfd AMP's open 24/7? I'll be heading through town just before sunrise.

Eisner58

09-24-04, 08:27

RealFun,

Could be the same girl at Paradise Not sure why they go by different names. Say, please PM me on the Chinese Apts after your adventure as I travel to Chi as well. Also - any value escorts in the Rockford or Madison areas? I need some variety.

Thanks,

Eisner

Another pic for fun.

CaptAm22

09-24-04, 10:37

Two extra directional tips. I don't think Cattleman made it across the river to main st. for one, from the sound of it. But in any case, if you do go through it downtown that way. You take Main St. as state hwy 2. It actually runs on Church St. going south before it jogs left at its dead end (cedar st.) which takes you one block to where Main st. starts going both ways again. It's along way down to Royal and hwy 20, so 20 is still the better option. Real there's one more exit off 39/20 to Harrison and Sakura. Alpine is still probably quicker, but you can take the first exit on 20 which is Harrison itself and take it all the way down to Alpine.

Jack Spratt III

09-24-04, 12:16

Mac Man,

Sorry - I did say that it was my first post. Need to get up with the terminology. I thought $.2 = $120. Make my numbers for Osaka 0.4 door, 1.3 fs.

Mr Stinky

09-24-04, 12:26

Gooch,

No. The earliest some AMP's open is 9:00am and usually close by 1:00am or so.

DJ

Mr Stinky

09-24-04, 12:38

Jack Spratt III,

Big question, dude. HOW much did you pay? If you're talking about numbers with 2 zeros behind it, you got robbed. If you're talking about numbers with 1 zero behind it, You Da Man. No one that I know of has ever gotten away with fs for 3 Hamiltons. If so, we need that girls name because she'll be one busy chick next week.

DJ

Chi Guy

09-24-04, 18:49

Gooch,

None of the Rockford AMP's are open 24/7. According to my latest info, Paradise closes at 3. Royal, Osaka, Sakura and Tokyo close at 2. Pine Tree closes at 11. This info might be kinda old. I gotta believe PT is staying open much later as they seem to be taking the place of Rainbow. You can always let your fingers do the walking.

Jack Spratt III

09-25-04, 03:51

David John,

House $40 fs $130 total = $170 for fucks sake, how much clearer can I get?

Echo Bravo

09-25-04, 05:48

Wow, the Rockford board is really hoppin. It seems there are a few AMP's right now that have workers with the same names. Gets kind of confusing.

A note about Sakura. They've been shipping the girls over to Osaka because there's been some potential heat there. The McD's has been complaining about the smell from the Korean food eminating from the rear of the AMP. Pretty funny. How do I know this? I was given the inside scoop while lying in the sauna of Osaka, by the new mamasan there as she was rubbing my profusely sweaty back, with Tina crouching down near my elbow (even though she hates the sauna). I suggested that they brush their teeth after they eat kimchi with their lunches so they don't greet the customers with their kickin' breath, which prompted a whiff of Tina's breath to be blown right in my face. Yes, I went back to the O. So, Sakura may sometimes be empty except for the mamasan (who I think is the hottest one in the Rock). In fact, I asked if she works. She said no.

And yes, there's a new mamasan at Osaka. Maybe I should be careful what I wish for. The crazy one left a few days ago. After a phone call, she left Rockford weeping because her sister was found alone at her home in NY after being unconscious for 5 days. At least that's the story. Pretty sad if it's true. Now I feel all bad for her. But she's still cuh-ray-jee.

Yes, Tina is enhanced. She's 22. I think her being in Chicago and Rockford before is a fib, since she told me that she's been learning to speak English only for the past 4 months (and it shows). Who's the monger that gave her the lacey black glove to wear and dance for him with? Didn't know you gents come bearing such gifts, making the rest of us look bad. J/k. Think she liked it. (She's an amazingly sexy dancer, by the way. Very HOT.) She wears the funky contacts that look pretty cool when you see her eyes in the light. Also, she has a little mole on her lip. The reason I saw it was because she was wearing no lipstick. This was a weird one cause for some reason, before I saw her this last time, I was thinking, "I'd LOVE to see Tina with no/little makeup on"- for a day or two before seeing her. Don't know why, and I'd never thought that before. And then, I arrive and guess what I see? Tina with no makeup! (Real- a bit of what you've experienced with Ch.) Pretty strange. When most of these girls speak their native language, the giggly voice (which I hate) goes away. Maybe ask them to say some things in Korean? (Or start yourself with 'ahn young'=hi or 'gahm sah hahm nee dah'=thanks.) Spent way over an hour and a half with her... finished with a mutual shower (and some other extras). She's pretty awesome, at least for me.

Oh, and the monger who bit or pulled on her nipples so hard that they were sore for days... please, learn how to treat the women. A little respect goes a long way. I heard she booted you right after you did that. Good for her.

And my PT boycott continues.

Soul Vitamin

09-25-04, 09:31

For those into the street scene, arrests made in sweep last week...

http://www.rrstar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20040925/NEWS0107/40925002

Jasperson

09-25-04, 13:29

This is my first report. I've been reading this Forum for some time and find it very enlightening. I've only been involved in this hobby for a few months, so this is my first effort at reporting.

I usually use Pine Tree, initially since it was easy to find, and, after reading the posts on this board, now because it is apparently the best AMP in town. But PT is getting crowded, so rather than waiting, I decided to try Osaka for the first time. I probably won't go back, but the experience was definitely worth sharing.

I walked in and no one was around. After a couple of minutes, 2 mamasans approached me. One finally took charge and led me down the hall. On the way, I asked to use the restroom, but she didn't know where it was. So after walking around the whole place, she led me back through the main entrance and found the other mamasan who showed me where to go.

Turns out that this was the mamasan's first day on the job. Anyway, she takes me to the room and goes thru the usual. She then leads me to the TS area and asks me if I'm going to do the TS by myself or if I needed assistance. I almost started to laugh because I thought she was joking, but she wasn't. I said I needed her help, and she proceeded to give me the worst TS I've had. When I turned over, she covered me with a cloth; and when she was done washing the rest of me, she told me to wash myself and walked out of the room before I could object. So I started the job myself, not knowing what to expect next.

Tina came in just before I finished, startled. She said the mamasan was new and apologized for her mistake. Tina finished the job quite nicely.

After we got into the room, we agreed on things (the daily double) for $.14. Things then proceeded normally for number one which was quite nice. She then blew smoke up my ass about how great I was; that I acted like a twenty year old and not like someone approaching 50.

Anyway, she then gave me an extemely pathetic massage, and after about ten minutes, she stopped and said time's up, I had to go. I started to complain asking her about the second, she acted like she didn't know what I was talking about (which could be true), and that her shift was over. She then left the room. After getting dressed, I poked my head out of the room, but there was no one around, so I couldn't even complain to anyone. So I left unescorted. I had paid for a full hour, but I was on the road in less than 45 minutes.

Even though PT is more expensive, Coco runs the place well and you don't leave disappointed or with a funny tail.

The whole experience was pretty funny, because it was the weirdest encounter I've had.

J

CaptAm22

09-25-04, 15:25

Good article. Typical article if anything. It just shows that the newspaper had already had the freedom (power?) to print names of arrests, similar to them printing divorces in the divorce section or bankrupcies among other things (drug arrests, etc) that people might find embarassing. Well, maybe not as embarassing as this, but it's freedom of the press, public information etc. I don't quite understand why it has to be increased (and how it is the city government's duty) to showing as pictures on a website. That to me lacks more due process, because they are singling out one offense (usually a misdemeanor in most cases) for posting and ignoring other more major crimes. It is not like a Crimestoppers program that is showing MISSING wanted criminals. It's kind of abusing public information in a personal campaign. Theoretically, if the police wanted to release those pictures to the paper to go with the names, they could, but by practice, they don't. To the paper, you only get pictures of MAJOR criminals (such as murders, armed robberies, drug busts) for front page stories. The constitutional issues are grey, because some cities have been able to do it, but my opinion from above is that it crosses lines a bit. But in any case, if the men were really embarrassed, well their name still appears there. One last interesting tip: There's a name of a prostitute there that matches a name of a local somewhat prominent family that includes someone active in politics. I wonder if there's any relation.

Slapshot

09-25-04, 17:27

Thanks SV!

I knew a sting was coming, the amount of SW activity seems to really be growing & with that article a few weeks ago in the local paper it was just a matter of time. Years ago the undercover units were out almost nightly doing mini stings or just following paying customers then playing sneak a boo you're under arrest howevert they've been almost non existant lately.

From what I could tell by the ages of the SW's busted they were mostly rookies, the veterans know most of the cops besides Rockford cops can not touch a SW. Most of them know this & won't offer their services unless you agree to touch her before discussing business. The RPD about as minor leauge as it gets, I'm surprised they actually "bust" anyone but I've noticed County & State Troopers cruising around lately.

Gooch

09-26-04, 10:02

ChiGuy
I rearranged my trip and got to PT about 9:30 AM. So I was the first customer of the day. Coco was really cool, BTW.

The girls were taking showers and I had to wait for them. I finally got too hot in the sauna and stepped out to look for Coco. Caught a girl coming out of the shower as I walked past and I think I scared her. Anyway, Jackie quickly came out and got things underway. Now I see why you guys go out there instead of the Chicago AMP's. Man that chick is hottt! Too bad she's so pushy for $$. She almost insisted on "everything for 1.6" and made fun of me for not wanting fs. The negotiations pretty much spoiled the incredible mood she had expertly created.

Taco Malo

09-27-04, 11:22

Another thing I dislike about AMPs - you have to negotiate just to get a HS!!!

TheShadow2

09-27-04, 14:33

Echo Bravo,
Nice post man. Got soda up my nose, but it was worth it :-)

Echo Bravo

09-27-04, 15:28

Do you guys think posting pics of the areas where the AMP's are at would help the newbies? Would they be worth posting? Anyone ever try to take pics of the ladies?

Chi Guy

09-27-04, 18:10

Gooch,

Actually, it's been quite some time since I've taken a ride out to Rockford. No doubt the girls are hot, but the attitudes lately have been a real turn off. When I go to these places, I want a full session with a girl who at least acts like she's not there just for the money. Except for a few regulars and a few new places I had to try out, my AMP visits have been pretty sparse lately.

Besides, I can make a DNA donation for a whole lot less mula with a cheap SW. Yeah, there's no massage, but most of my AMP massages lately have been pretty lame.

Too bad the EMP's that offer extras are few and far between, esp. compared to AMP's. The ones that have offered extras in the past pretty much blow away most of the AMP's for overall experience.

Eisner58

09-27-04, 20:11

Echo Bravo,

Pics here. Ignore the article. Old news.

http://www.rrstar.com/localnews/your_community/rockford/20031013-26880.shtml

Taco Malo

09-28-04, 11:11

I'd say pictures of the places are really not all that neccessary.

The addresses for every single one of these places is right in the yellow pages.

I don't know - even though it really doesn't make a difference - I feel uneasy about pictures of my favorite places up here.

Now I'd love to see pictures of the women themselves! Check out on the Houston board - mariaspa.com and latinsensationsspa.com (I think - they're posted up there). That's how AMPs and Lingerie need to be advertised!

BY the way - that article has the BEST god damn map detailing where all the AMPs are. Thanks Rockford Star!

Varsity Town

09-28-04, 11:25

Anybody know anything else about the spa in Sycamore? I walked in there one afternoon and looked real small and not too private. I didn't have enough $ so I didn't get a chance to try it out. Either PM me or post any reports you've got.

VT

Jack Spratt III

09-28-04, 17:21

Yesterday, (Monday 9/27) was one of those glorious Fall days too precious to waste so I blew off work for the afternoon and headed to the Rock. 2pm - drove 7th and 8th, only saw one possible bsw on Broadway and no sign of LE.

Decided to take you mongers advice and went to PT - arrived at about 3pm.

I'm glad I did. Mamasan was very effusive. I admitted that it was my first time there. She asked if I go to other places and I said Osaka. She must be reading this board because she then said PT was the best place in Rockford. Paid 0.4 for the door (1 hour).

I was introduced to Sunny, 5'0", very pretty, early 20s, natural shapely and shaved. Sunny did the TS herself - it was long and she took particular care. I don't think my asshole has been that clean in the last 20 years. Worked on washing my dick so long I nearly came right there. She towelled me dry.

Back to the room we got down to negotiations. She claimed fs was normally 2.0 but as it was my first time it would be 1.6. I offered 1.2, then 1.3 then held out for 1.4. She finally agreed, took it and left the room.

She returned and got undressed. She asked if I wanted a massage so I said yes. The tables are large (about queensize - not the regular massage table) so she jumped up and sat astride me. Pretty nice hands and then she rubbed her breasts all over my back. Nice view of all of this in a big mirror on the wall.

Turned over and she went all over me with her tongue and breasts. She put the cover on with her mouth and gave me a long slow cbj. I had to ask her to stop as she had me on the edge twice. Mounted me cowgirl and was doing some kinda trick with her vaginal muscles cos I lasted less than 30 seconds.

She cleaned me off with a hot wet towel and then came back and lay down beside me so I could stroke her lovely body for the remainder of my time.

It was probably the best AMP visit I have ever had. Not rushed or hurried at all.

Echo Bravo

09-28-04, 19:12

That map is wonderful:
http://www.rrstar.com/images/news_photos/20031013-26880-13678.jpg

Numbers to help us see if our favorite masseuses are working (c/o Realfun's 5/19 post):

Osaka Spa
4215 E. State stuites 103&104
815-395-1177

Paradise Health Spa
278 N. Phelps Ave.
815-381-1010

Pine Tree Theraputic Massage
4315 E. State St.
815-399-9134

Royal Health Spa
4103 S. Main St.
815-965-8000

Sakura Spa
4415 Harrison Ave.
815-398-2872

Tokyo Oriental Health Spa
1538 Broadway
815-962-7353

Cattleman

09-29-04, 01:10

RealFun and Past Tense, thanks for the pm with directions to Royal.

It paid off as the return trip from Florida was great - and Royal was easy to find.

Stop was at 2pm and was greeted by a lady maybe late 30's with firm bolt-ons, overly happy thin beauty, long hair, great feet!, but goofy smile when she tried to be sexy rolling her tongue around. Decent TS, talked her into walking on back, she asked about extras, i bid 1.0 she comes back with 2.0, then settled on 1.6 after 60 house fee (1hr.) only had 1.5 so was in and out spending 2.1. I think this is alot, but was horny as hell not being in an AMP for so long. She was way hot once the fake massage was over. got some BLS and partial rimming, but tongue was hard and it seemed like an act. However, it was an act that was working, almost poped right away when she hoped on rev cg. then again when she turned around. Managed to get her mish with feet up very high and some DT. In any case I was in AMP heaven but read a post earlier about a provider who was great but got u to pop to soon. May of been her, she said her name was coco or something like that. I had asked for Mimi, but didn't understand her after that.

Also a neighbor of mine was with me. He had never been to an AMP or any massage before. I paid his house fee but let him go from there. Said he had an awesome massage and right away provider asked if he wanted to fuck! He had no extra money, but wouldn't be surprized if he managed a hs. We're both married and didn't go into detail about it.

Would I go back, hell ya! I would be much tighter with $ next time though. Seems like with a 60 house, a guy shouldn't even be bothered for more than 1.4 but 1 or 1.2 would be better!

Might have to try some how low can we go tricks like KBE.

Looking for any excuse to get back to Rockford.

If any knows of providers in Madison or even closer to Eau Claire, that info would be great!

Thanks for all the post which I read in detail leading up to my trip. Each one helped. Just wish funds were available to try each AMP in Rockford over a weekend!

RealFun

09-29-04, 05:55

Jack Spratt III - glad you enjoyed it. PT consistently has the most attractive girls, with Paradise a close second. I don't think Coco's comment about having the best spa was due to her reading the boards. If she was responsive to what's been posted about her house lately, she'd say, "You're lucky, you came when we're not packed with customers. You won't have to wait a ridiculous length of time just to be rushed... but we're still going to put your balls in a vice in an attempt to bleed a ridiculously high tip out of you..."

PT has the potential to give great service like this all the time, Coco takes great care of her girls and gives them the best training, guidance, motivation and inspiration. Its not even really her fault that the place gets so damn busy.

But when it does, she really should turn a few customers away. And the aggressive tactics for higher tips is a bit overdone. Haggling is just a reality of AMPs that we have to learn to live with. I expect it, I anticipate it, I'm into it. But it should be done with a sporting spirit of fun. Neither the girl nor the client should take it too seriously. And I don't care how hot PT thinks it is, they don't deserve to consistently get $40 more than every other place... at least not upfront before the session even begins.

For all the great times I've had at PT, there's just not enough solid consistency to warrant that kind of consistency in higher tips. I don't even think Rainbow deserved $140 every single time, but I'd say they were just a hair more consistent than PT has been. At Rainbow, it didn't matter how hot the chick was, or how busy, it was almost a deadlock guarantee that you could coax a warm, sincere, energetic and enthusiastic performance from the girl.

PT has a long ways to go to expect $140 upfront on every visit. And if they're going to haggle starting at $160, fine. Do a geek check, throw that price out there, but if the guy balks then get over it quick and try for 140.

Lots of newbies here lately. I remember when I was new, the only way I could avoid getting suckered into overpaying was to not take it in with me. Now I'm in a phase where I could win the lottery and walk in with $10grand on me and still not pay a penny over 120 even if the girl is a 10.

Realistically, I do like to carry $40-60 extra with me. Just in case I get a good vibe I may want to bribe the mamasan with an additional 20 (total house fee 60) to guarantee that I get all my time. I do this if the chick is really a rare type that I dig a lot, or if it seems like things are busy. And when I hand it to her, as she grabs it I hold tight for a second, get her attention, look into her eyes and repeat a couple of times "... a full hour, OK? No rush, a full hour..." She may even get a little tense or irate but she knows I expect it, and the guy after me will just have to wait.

Also, its good to have an extra $20 so that if the girl or the house provides a truly exceptional experience I can offer a little extra on the back end. Nothing wrong with rewarding good service. If you want to do this but aren't yet experienced or disciplined enough to trust yourself with that money in your pocket during negotiations, then leave it in your car. And if you feel that the session warrants, then as you leave, tell mamasan to wait by the door and get the extra 20 and bring it to her.

Sorry about the out-of-the-blue rant, but these are things that have been on my mind as I read many of these recent posts.

Bottom line, I don't think anyone should take the whole haggling thing too seriously. It should all be done with a spirit of fun. But in the end, its your money, its your session. True its nice if we can all stick together and try to hold down prices. But its not worth ruining a session for yourself because you're ashamed and embarassed to tip $160 and feel like you let down your fellow mongers.

Just do what's right for you, enjoy yourself. Live in the moment. Have it in the back of your mind to try to progress in a direction of developing haggling skills, both for "our" sake as well as yours. If the girl you're with takes it too seriously then avoid that spa for a while. That's why I'm supporting the PT boycott. Their success has gone to their heads and they've become such ball busters there.
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Stopped in at Osaka and met a real tiny skinny girl named Monica. Enhancements were not overly large, yet way unrealistic for her frame, very obviously fake looking, and yet, done about as nicely as you could expect considering everything else I just said. Nips were small yet puffy and sensitive, no obvious scars. Fake or not, you get a skinny girl with a nice rack, that's a nice combo.

Did I say she was skinny? Probably right around 90 lbs. Long straight black hair. Face OK... kinda different looking, average cuteness. Attitude pleasant, service a little lazy but not seriously lacking. Fully shaved down below with slight stubble, hopefully she either gets it smooth or lets it grow a tiny bit more. No big deal. Although the entire length of her ass crack could be covered up with a dollar bill... folded in half... ironically she did have just a little bit of cheeky roundness to her butt. Very little, but there was just enough for you to pinch between your thumb and forefinger.

I like extremes in figures as long as the total result is pleasing. Mimi at Royal was slightly stocky yet voluptous and had wide hips, and very sexy. The last girl I saw at Osaka was almost chubby but so firm and curvy, and very sexy. Years ago, Gina at Tokyo was probably close to 5'11" and big boned but she was one of my faves. I like variety, I don't mind extremes. If you want a sexy tiny waif, then Monica is a fun diversion.

She made a play for 140 but easily accepted 120. I had 20 more in my pocket that was hers if the session rocked. And actually, it did, but more due to my performance than hers. I'm sitting on that 20 as I type this. Nothing wrong with her, if skinny is your thing she'll have you leaving happy. And her attitude is awesome, she's just not the most industrious girl I've encountered.

Hope this helps.

CaptAm22

09-29-04, 21:52

It was interesting to read that article again. ALthough I'd seen it before, I hadn't ever noticed the side bar item. Did any of you notice the story (I'm surprised I'd never heard it before) that some guy actually called and pressed charges for having gone there for a massage and they "pressured" him into having sex and charging it on his card, which in turn got him caught by his wife and thrown out of the house. If that's not the most hilariously stupid story I've ever heard. He later declined charges because he was kicked out of the house and no longer in state. Sounded like bitterness because he was stupid enough to put it on the card and he wanted to try to get back at Royal for his own mistake. Too funny, I hope you read it.

Hey and Goo, what a horrendous mistake letting me see your latina spas website. That's my other weakness besides Asian women. I'm ready to take my money and fly down to Texas! Maybe if I cross my fingers enough, they'll open one of those up here!

Cattleman

09-30-04, 01:06

Eisner58 asked about Chinese Apt Amps earlier. If anyone knows of something like this for a town near here, please pass it on!

http://menu.zor.org
A listing of AAMPS and includes what each girl will do, etc..
also links to reviews, etc.

It's from my home town of San Jose, CA, maybe there is one for Chicago.

Strider

10-01-04, 01:38

This is about the Sycamore AMP, although we should probably switch over to Illinois - Other Areas since it is about an hour out of Rockford.
Stopped in early afternoon a couple of days ago. Took an hour, to increase the chance to confirm suspicions.
First, standup shower only. The location is real handy for me, but I've gotten spoiled by the tableshower service in the Rock. The door to the room was left slightly ajar as well, but I decided to go for it anyway.
The massage was really kickass; the girl knew her stuff. I gently got a little 'freindly' when the opportunity was near at hand, and when my attention was not refused, continued to do so. She insisted on a complete massage with no turnover, and then asked if I was feeling 'all better' now. I suggested she had missed a spot, and she checked my package and said she'd be back. They must have locked the place down, and when she came back she closed the door completely.
I opted for HJ, but wanted to play upstairs and she was OK with that. I don't know if there is possibility for more, but it sure seems like it would be.

I'd say check it out, guys, but BE DISCREET!!!!!! The less the town knows, the longer this will last.

Peace.

RealFun

10-01-04, 02:40

CaptAm22 - that is a great story. Another good one happened in Madison a few years ago. Some guy had an escort come to his motel room. He payed the arrival fee and then a tip for extra services. Its unclear what extras the girl promised, if any.

Well the girl felt she had completed the arrangement and as she got dressed to leave the guy started arguing that she wasn't done, she had to do more, and that he was getting ripped off. He tried to detain her, the cops were called and when they arrived the girl had gotten out of the room and the guy was following her through the hallway wearing nothing but a towel and cussing the girl out.

Here's the best part. When cops confronted him, he tried to get the cops to stop her because she had ripped him off. He claimed he had paid her for sex and she was refusing to perform the negotiated duties!

Strider, did you just post on a public forum for people to be DISCREET? Maybe you could delete the post and invite members with an interest in that spa to ask you the deal via pm. No biggie to me, just a suggestion.

As a side note I had a chance to try out the chinese apt thing. It went great thanks to many here on this board. I wish there was something closer, this is a nice alternative I'd work into my rotation occasionally. Guess I'll just have to make more trips to Chicago, which is always a good time, anyways. The full story will pop up in the Mt Prospect section soon.

Strider

10-01-04, 09:09

Real;
I was referring to behavior in the nieghborhood around the AMP; I have written before about the nature of this town and how they would react if they had any idea what was up. If Syc. LE are reading this, the placed is screwed anyway based on implication alone.

Eisner58

10-01-04, 15:09

Cattleman,

I need password for the site you posted. PM please.

Eisner

Can Show You

10-01-04, 18:57

Just a little info from this newbie. Two sucessfull visits to May at PT. Slender, small but enhanced, my type. maybe 5'4 and 105-110 Lbs. Massage was good. negotitations went will due to tips from this board, thanks seniors, you know who you are. Cost of events .4 door and .6 (or .5) Little rushed, finished HJ nicely, didnt ask or want more, sure was avaible. Girl 7, Ts 6, M6, finish solid seven maybe 8. I've one question: large to very large here (nine long), love two hands on me, room for three. Where is that availible in my area, or how to ask. Any known Size Queens out there?

Is Exec a possiblility for that? Thinking of Peggy, never been though.

Thanks!

RealFun

10-02-04, 04:10

Can Show You - welcome and thanks for a nice first post. May is a real sweetheart, and pretty. You got a good one.

Strider, I know what you mean now. I'm pretty sure that any people that really have any power to cause problems for an AMP know what goes on in them. Being discreet and respectful of a neighborhood is always a good idea.

When I drive to Rockford I wear my seatbelt and drive the speed limit. Its not a good idea to pull up in the lot of an AMP acting like a redneck or getting all ghetto. Keep the stereo down, mind where you flick a cigarette butt, don't come careening into the parking space, no point in acting like a knob in any shape or fashion.

Don't duck down and hunch your shoulders and try to walk fast as if you can be less visible or something. You're just a guy looking for the male version of some spa treatment. Shower, sauna, massage. Its healthy to have less tension, you sleep much better.

Give our opponents as little as possible to complain about.

RealFun

10-02-04, 04:10

Go to Osaka.

RealFun

10-02-04, 05:54

Go to Osaka.

RealFun

10-02-04, 15:52

Go to Osaka.

Member #6131

10-02-04, 17:23

Hey Real,

Should I go to Osaka?

CaptAm22

10-02-04, 17:35

And who at Osaka is prompting this directive in triplicate?

Mike67

10-02-04, 18:11

Just got back from Osaka. I called ahead to let the Mamasan I was coming. I told her I was in earlier in the week to see Monica.
She said Monica was not there any more (I knew she wasn't but I wanted to establish that I was a repeat) but that there was a new girl, stop by in about 1/2 hour. I arrived 30 minutes later and confirmed it was I who had called.

She introduced me to Tina in the hallway and showed me to the shower table after I declined the sauna. On the way to the shower I saw another girl in the hallway in red. The mamasan started to wash me and I asked about the other girl. She said her name was Honey, but that it was Tina's turn. I asked her how many girls were working and she said 2. I asked to see Honey, and made sure she understood me, and she said O.K.

Just then Tina came in to take over with the wash but mamasan said something to her and she cussed and left. Mamasan and I looked at each other and grinned. After the shower was over I was drying myself, alone, in the shower room and a 3rd girl stopped by briefly, apparently surprised that the room was occupied. She left before I could ask her name, she had a towel around her body but her face was cute.

Honey came by and took me to my room. She gave a great massage. She asked if I wanted a hard massage and after I said yes she stood on my back and used her feet wondefully on my achin' back. She has an average build with nice natural breasts and a dark complextion. She is from Vegas and here for 2 months. She was very accomodating and took her time. After we were through (I thought) we were cuddling and she saw I was still hard and she asked me if I wanted more and I said sure. She mentioned that she didn't have a condom and then gave me a great HJ while I rubbed her ass and kissed her breasts. I will now bring a condom with me every time. She took 120 without discussion.

One of the disappointments I've had in the past at various AMP's is getting who ever's turn it is and seeing hotter girls in the place. Would like to know more about the 3rd girl.

(BTY, when I was at Paradise recently to see June I saw the short, thin girl with the dark complextion and asked Mamasan her name and was told it was Tammy.)

SeekPetite

10-02-04, 18:25

Beware..

Lefty from Milwaukee is in town at the Super 8. Curising the streets.
Protect the ho's, get to them before Lefty does!

RealFun

10-03-04, 06:30

Hey Bath,

Yes.

Actually, I got a little tip for anyone that's headed to either Osaka or Sakura so if you get a chance pm me before you go.

Strider, did you think its a good tip?

Strider

10-03-04, 10:36

Real - tried to send you a PM but your box is full (whoops). Lots of people wanting your info, I guess. I consider myself on the fringe of lurkerdom here, though I try to contribute when I have anything to say. That being said, there seem to be a lot of info miners here who troll for tips without returning the favor. I think Osaka will be crowded now. That is as it should be, it makes a business like that possible. It just makes the experience more of a challenge. I'll have to check it out early in the day to beat the rush.

The 'tip' was a wealth of info and as complete as can be; you should write an instruction book and sell it to AMP mamasans as well as newbie mongers!

P.S. I wanted to say that I'm with you %100 in regards to Milwaukee's Lefty. Our 'hobby' is exploitive enough when done gently; questions of legality aside (for obvious reasons here), we do not need to cross the line into abuse. Those who do are the lowest forms of life.

Mr Stinky

10-03-04, 12:41

Realfun,

I, too, tried to pm you, but just like a popular AMP worker, your box is full. I was at Osaka a week or so ago and found it ordinary, so I didn't bother to post. If you have additional info, please pm me when you can.

Also, I read the Milwaukee boards also. I'm not sure if Lefty is totally honest in his posts or just a frustrated erotica writer. Some of his posts are a little, shall we say, imaginative.

DJ

RealFun

10-03-04, 14:46

Strider - I've been discussing a lot by pm lately. I asked in other sections for help with chinese apts and got over a dozen posts offering help. I'm trying to get caught up with thanking everyone personally. And then there are the tip requests for Osaka. I do want to try to get to everyone before I start deleting posts and forget to respond to anyone.

So if that happens, if you write to me and don't get a response within few days please feel free to write me again, I won't consider it pestering. Especially if you're going soon and need the info urgently then pester away and let me know you're in a hurry and I'll at least shoot back a quick response to you.

Sorry to anyone that has zero or just a few posts on here. Its not that I don't want to help, its just that I want to be careful and reward participation on the public forum. None of the tips are of life and death importance, they're just little tweaks to put on your visit that could make it smoother or more pleasant.

Sounds like Lefty was well behaved in Rockford. It doesn't surprise me. I'm glad that he is responsive to a situation. In an AMP they don't take no mess so he was respectful. But out on the street its a different story and he was up to his usual tricks. And even then he was fair with the girl they picked up and read the riot act to his friend who broke his promise.

As far as writing an instruction manual for mamasans to read, I think Jun is the one for that job (wink).

RealFun

10-03-04, 15:12

Given one constant, my prediction:

Rainbow --> Paradise --> Pine Tree --> *Osaka*

BJ Daty

10-04-04, 00:45

I took a stroll sat. Down 7th, broadway and Kish. lots of action no Le two nice girls by the Bank (any info on these would be great)

A girl in a red tedy was standing in the window of Chantily ( I hope they don't F##k that place up.

I do not have the nads to pick up a sw anymore I did in the 80's but not any more. Mabe someone can help me through this dificulty with some street tips. Pm if you liike. Here are the questions.

1. Price (is it still $5 for bbbjtcws)
2. safe places to park (during the act)
3. Is it safe to go to their home
4. should I bring my own rain gear
5. situations to avoid
6. are these girls drug dealers
7. any other info you think is important

I know some will say read the Forum, and I have I just would like to get the fears I have under reasonable control so I can pick up one of these girls and get a cheap hummer

RealFun

10-04-04, 05:12

I've said it before, that the mamasan has much to do with the overall quality of service. She trains, motivates and inspires. She sets the tone. Historically Tokyo has always been my favorite in this respect, and I'll always hold them in high regard. But they have had their struggles keeping high quality staff around.

Usually, Royal and Osaka/Sakura rotate mamasans almost as much as they rotate girls so its really been a non-issue there. At Paradise, Chanel and the other older mamasan do a decent enough job. The place runs smoothly and for the most part the service is reliable, which is a reflection of good management. Chanel is decent looking and is very friendly, sometimes even mildly flirty. I don't think she realizes the full potential and possible impact that a cute flirty manager can have.

Does anyone remember Yumi at Rainbow? She was probably mid-late 30s and just worked the window. If you went there enough you'd eventually see signs that she really called the shots in that place and commanded respect among the girls. I'm pretty sure that I'm not the only one that fantasized about getting with Yumi. Then for a while at the end there was a tall thin "cleaning girl" that never did sessions. Seeing a lady that's at least decent enough to be in the do-able range, yet is totally unavailable, is a powerful tool to get a guy in the mood. And even on the way out, seeing someone attractive yet different from the one he just banged really has the guy leaving in a frame of mind where he's already starting to want more.

Isn't that one of the big rules for entertainment? Leave them wanting more.

Then there's Coco at Paradise. She seems to understand, better than anyone else, how beneficial it is to have a sexy-mama mamasan that is extremely friendly and dresses hot and teases... but yet, is *unavailable*. It creates an erotic tension in the customer that gets him warmed up before he even meets the girl. Coco isn't my favorite style of seductress... look what she's turned Pepi into... but on the whole she does a bang up job. She was the original manager at Paradise, then took over Sakura for a while before she opened Pine Tree and she has had the Midas touch everywhere she goes.

So, Chanel doesn't seem to get it even though its working for her to a certain degree. Coco definitely gets it, and works that angle quite well.

I'm interested in hearing what others think about this. Have you ever wanted to do a mamasan? Even one that was way past her prime? Any care to name specific ones they've lusted after? More than a few guys have inquired about Coco. Do you think a flirty and fun mamasan can be beneficial for an AMP's business?

Ci-Traveler

10-04-04, 10:19

Strider wrote:

"P.S. I wanted to say that I'm with you %100 in regards to Milwaukee's Lefty. Our 'hobby' is exploitive enough when done gently; questions of legality aside (for obvious reasons here), we do not need to cross the line into abuse. Those who do are the lowest forms of life."

I couldn't agree more. Unfortunately, those on the Milwaukee board who actually post (rather than lurk) tend to support his complete description of raping women. I don't know why Jackson allows it.

ci-traveler

Mr Stinky

10-04-04, 12:27

Realfun,

I remember when I first moved to this area back in 1988. At that time, Tokyo and Golden Touch were the only places in Rockford. Not having a lot of experience with massage parlors, I was blown away by both. But Tokyo was my very favorite. The mamasan was an older woman and she also gave the massages. I remember my first visit there, the price was 60 bucks. No tipping. She had me undress in the room and took me to the stand up shower. The first time I'd ever experiened that. As she bent down to dry my legs and feet, I could see down the front of her shirt. No bra and really nice nipples. Immediate erection. She giggled at my response. In the room, she gave a excellant massage. At the end, she sat on the edge of the table with her back to me and gave a great hand release. She allowed me to feel her butt and that's all. For a novice, it was the greatest experience I had ever had. I tried to visit her at least once or twice a month. I still wish she was at Tokyo.

At Golden Touch, there was a woman named Lois. She too, was a little older than most, but what a great lady and massage. After taking a shower, she would dry you off with a towel. She made sure EVERYTHING was dry. Then to the toom and the massage. She made sure that every touch she gave you was erotic in nature. Especially around the posterior. Then she would ask for you to massage her. Anywhere you wanted. And she would respond by grabbing your johnson and stroking it for a while. Back on the table, you would be on your back and she'd lay on top of you and do a body to body massage. That was usually all it took for me. Got real sticky between our belly's.

Anyway, just some random memories I thought I'd pass along.

DJ

Carb

10-04-04, 15:33

Was in Rockford last Friday and did the 7th St. and environs tour about 4:30 and found nothing. There was one fat white girl on 7th and then Broadway who was a possibility. It was interesting in that I saw no sign of LE either. Did they all take the day off? Since there was no one of interest I decided to try the Hideaway on State Street. Had a great time! For obvious reasons I won't go into details here but if anypne is interested you can PM me.

Then I drove to Peoria; it was dead but I'll post on that board.

Carb

Carb

10-04-04, 15:35

Sorry, that wasn't Friday PM last week, it was Thursday in case that makes a difference.

Carb

Mr Stinky

10-04-04, 16:42

BJ Daty,

My my, you sure live in the past. Just kidding. No more 5 dollar bj's, unless it's from a granny out of food stamps. Going rate is 20-30 depending on the provider. A safe place? I don't think there is a safe place. LE knows them all and checks them regularlly. Going to a providers home is not always the smartest thing. Although most of the providers are addicts and not dealers, you never know what will be waiting in someone's house. I guess the bottom line is, the streets aren't safe anymore. STD, rip-offs, people with knives and guns, just too damn risky. Not to mention LE. If this stupid city law goes through, your smiling face can be on a website. Save your money and hit an AMP when you can. And WHILE you can.

Be safe and happy motoring.

DJ

Ralph

10-04-04, 17:07

Spent most of the last week in Rockford and managed to have a couple of good experiences, plus a few weird ones.

First off was what has to be the wierdest SW encounter I have every had. Picked up a girl named Kelly near 7th st. Clean looking fairly pretty, told me she was 19 and this was her first night at doing this. Took her back to my hotel and discovered she had just broken up with her boyfriend since he was pressuring her into having sex. Thought this was a weird one considering what she was now up to. Told me she was a virgin and saving herself for marriage, and would only do orla. Settled for that. En rout to driving her back sort of mentioned that she might wind up getting picked up by a guy who would force himself on her, which sort of prompted her to decide to quite her newfound profession. Asked me to drive her home, which i agreed to only to discevr it was in a small town abot 20 miles outside of Rockford. Wished her well.

Next night did not seem to see mcuh around 7th sT, Wound up finding a blonde WSW said her name was LeAnn. Mid 20's did not act like a druggie, said she needed some money since her ex-husband jus lost his joba nd was not giving her child support. Went to hotel and had some fun, she gave me a phone number but it did not work the next day.

Had to make a short trip up to the land of cheese the enxt day which may ahve been a good thing since that was teh night of the big nusts- newspaper articel mentioend a few posts back. Read that and noticed that i kenw one of the girls who had gotten busted. She is soemwhata poster child for not doing drugs. Seen her on many occasions. She told me she had been married and had a job amking about twice what I ever had until a friend introduced her to the joys of heroin and crack cocaine. Last time I saw her in early summer she told me she was going into drug rehab and told me I could come see her, however when i stopped by the drug rehab place learned she was not there, although my name had been o her approved vsitor list, she chcked herslef out early which you can do if you are their on your own accord. Hopefully she will get some help in lock up.

Next time out found a differet WSW along 11th St named Sheri. She seeemed eager to egt picked u, but seemed rushed for time. Seems she had been waiting for some guy who was supposed to have met her 20 minutes before I picked ehr up, so she was very rushed during the whil experince. Had me stop at gas station to get a phone card so she could add time to her phone and gave me a number. When I got to where I dropped her off the guy who was 20 minutes late was waiting for her. If I decied to see her again it will hopefully be less rushed.

Next night saw lots of girls in 7th st area. Girl I ahd picked up and tried lighting crack pipe in my car causing me to kick her out kept yelling at me and was adamant I pick her up again- she seems to ahve forgotten I kicked her out for doing that.

Wound up with a blonde WSW named Cassie who was mid 20's by no means fat but healthy enough to know she was not hooked on crack. Told me she used to work at Chantilly Lace but had taken to the street since she could make more money. She was another of the weird ones I seem to have a kanck for finding took her to my hotel and while doing it she kept asking if I was done yet. After a few minites she said she had had enough and that iw as too big for her and we were done, I know I was not. She then offered me $20 to take her back to 7th, which I figured might as well- cut my losses.

Crusied around again for ahwile and found nothing all that appealing. A couple of girls who were way to abvious- one bruneete was wearing a trnechcoat with only panties , no bra underneath. Also sawa girl I had picked up a few times several years ago who is only in her mid 20's but now looks close t 40- guess drugs do that to you, passed on her although she sort of acted like she remembered me when i passssed her a couple fo times. I did have a different cra back then. Saw a poetntail WSW walking with a black guy who kept giving me teh eye, however when i did fianlly pull over, the black guy approached my car not the girl so I took off. Was about ready to give up when I heard some oen yell my name. Wound up picking up a girl named Tracy who is a part timer I ahd seen last spring, who was out on occasion to help cash flow. She told me that over the past week about 40 girls had been picked up. she never has been since she avoids the areas near drug houses. Had a good time with her and dropepd her off at her current home, she is hoping to move as soon as she can save up enough money for first & last months rent plus damage deposit on a new apartment. No phoen as oen has come to expect.

Chief_Wiggum

10-04-04, 17:47

BJ Daty -

I can't comment too much on the RFD scene as I don't travel there as much as I used to (but I do read this board and fantasize about taking trips up there). But, I will try to help on some of your q's:

1) $5? Oh how I wish I was mongering in the 70's? :) Actually, I heard that San Fran strippers were notoriously cheap up until the early 90's. Now, some command escort fees for like maybe 20 mins in a booth.

3) In most cases, I would assume it's ok, but I, personally, wouldn't do it. I would rather spring for a no-tel (which I heard is pretty cheap).

4) YMMV

5) Try to control the situation, where you park, etc.

6) I've only met one girl who dealt, and it was Zanex of all things.

Ralph Alton

10-04-04, 18:44

RealFun, excelent post. You do the mongering world a proud service. Thanks!

CaptAm22

10-04-04, 19:03

To BJ,

Even before the rules changed against the window thing, Chantilly Lace was not a common one to see girls lingering in. It was probably an isolated case, and she probably didn't realize she was being risky. She was probably more than likely waiting for someone specifically, but that's just a guess. Their window is very narrow now after the remodeling, but I wouldn't worry about that being a regular thing. One warning to park about that I know for sure, If you're anywhere near 9th to 10th st. areas on broadway, the gentleman that owns the abortion clinic building has security cameras that were instrumental in catching the pimp and hooker combination that stole a car from in front of the pawn shop a half a block away. People are known to pick their SW and just park right around that block in broad daylight. But if your worried about it, I don't think you'll be doing that.

Boomer23

10-04-04, 20:09

RealFun,

I couldn't agree with you more. A hot mamasan adds to the overall effect and makes you want to strike up a conversation. The attitude they present makes you want to come back.

A case in point. Last week, I went to Tokyo. There was a different mamasan there. I asked for Linda. Apparently, she is no longer there. I had made up my mind that I would leave if Linda was unavailable. But the mamasan wouldn't take no for answer. I tried to leave. She grabbed my arm and tried to get me to go with someone else. I don't think I'll be going back to Tokyo for a while. I was very sorry to hear that Linda was gone.

After I left Tokyo, I went to PT. Again, a different mamasan. No Coco. I was looking forward to seeing her and giving her a big hug. I asked for Sunny. She was busy but the mamasan sent in Nancy.

Nancy is very cute and her English is not to bad. She gave a good TS and when we got back to the room, she asked the standard question. I told her the standard answer. She wanted 2. I countered 1.4 Which she finally accepted. She said that for 2 she would take me to paradise. I've heard that one before. I guess that some guys actually fall for that. Any way, Nancy was nice but somewhat mechanical. I may try her again.

I sure hope that Coco was just off for an day or so. Has anybody seen her in the last couple of days.

AlwaysLooking

10-04-04, 20:30

Hey gents,

A quick question. I noticed that one of the posts here mentioned a 'daily double,' which I, admittedly foolishly, assumed wasn't really an option at an AMP. I'm curious as to any or all experiences in negotiation this? Do you find the women accepting of this arrangement? What are the typical fee arrangements? Nothing's worse than negotiating a price on FS and then blowing it too soon. Feel free to PM me with any respones, and I thank you in advance.

Cattleman

10-05-04, 19:15

I have to agree with AlwaysLooking, what about double pops?

Wouldn't it be great for a quick one during the ts, then a relaxing massage followed by fs.

Or even ts, fs, massage, then hs. I'll even do the second pop myself if they'll do some agressive face sitting!

Speaking of which, anyone know of any providers who are somewhat of a dominate who will play some agressive games?

Eat more beef and taco's

Cattleman

10-05-04, 19:17

Back to AAMPs, was anyone able to get into link posted previously?

What did you guys think? Anyone up for a trip to San Jose, CA?

Is there such a site for local talent?

Kaman1

10-05-04, 22:35

Hey Guys,

I agree with Boomer 23, I stopped by PT on Saturday and saw Nancy. Coco was nowhere to be seen. Pink and Gina were in the house. Linda was very cute, but mechanical. Weak muscle control. Sorry guys I settled for$1.6 over a $40 house fee. You know what was thinking. Did 3 positions. After 45 min she was pushing for HJ with jacket off. NFW. Finished up doggie. Need for some enthusiasim.

It wasn't bad but not too inspiring.Will always strive for better.

Real- I heard but didn't listen. Osaka next time.

Cattleman. I agree. One pop during TS then one after massage

Kaman1

RealFun

10-08-04, 05:30

Please see the Milwaukee section for a description of my last adventure. PM for the chick's identity. Some of you will know without having to ask. Please keep it on the down low. Thanks.

Gardener

10-08-04, 14:42

As a new member, where are the strolls in Rockford? I will be driving through this weekend. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Varsity Town

10-09-04, 02:45

I know you guys aren't into the LS too much, but I had a really good night at Chantilly Lace. I've tried the AMP thing a couple of times and I just couldn't relax enough throughout the whole thing. The old lady is not really discussed here, but i still love her. My conscience gets to me in the AMP's. The LS give me the freedom to do as much as I want for as long as I want.

That being said... Raven at CL was unbelievable. I don't think any of them are FS there but I still had a half hr session with her. Excellent DFK and finished with BBBJ no CIM. She said her specialty was foreplay and god did she mean it. I would recommend her to anyone that's into the LS. I didn't get a chance to ask her if anyone there was FS. Had a little too much, um, fun. Good Luck to all.

VT

Varsity Town

10-09-04, 02:53

Sorry, also an FYI. If you're a little short before your next paycheck, CL will take a credit card tip. Called Executive and said it was cash only for tips. I love executive because of its mostly FS options, but for those without cash fund in a time of need, CL will get R' done. Anyone working at Exclusive (Haley if you're reading this), please take credit tips into account.

VT

Spy Hunter

10-09-04, 12:28

Went to Paradise recently. Haven't been there for several months. The mamasan was new to me. I was introduced to Cookie but I asked for someone else. I waited 10 mins since the other two girls were busy. Mamasan introduced me to Bebe. She is hot, great body with a nice tan. After the TS, she wanted $.6 for everything. I told her that I have been there many times and never paid that much. She insisted that it's now $.6. She even got Cookie and mamasan to come in to tell me that it's $.6. Big turn off. I told the mamasan that I didn't have $.6 so I got a discount but expected to pay full price next time. Anyway, the massage and service were very good (YMMV). Not GFE but got 69 daty and doggie finish.

Jr Mint

10-09-04, 21:28

I still prefer the LS to AMPs. I'm just not into the full service thing that much. I prefer a good handshake with a little bit of petting, but that's just me.

However all that being said if you become a regular at the LS from my experience almost everything you want can be had. You just have to be a little discreet and have a little patience. Also unlike the AMP establishment these girls can all come and go as they please, so the service offered is more up to the girl. It might take a couple tries to find what you want. As a repeat customer I've had girls tell me if you come in and I'm not here or available try so and so instead. Especially with the new hours you can't always come back later. Go to these two LS we have left, we need to keep them going. If they keep busy they are going to have full staffs and we'll all have more choices.

I do have two questions, and please understand this isn't a money issue either. I sometimes want the massage and the pampering so I do hit an AMP about once a month. Suppose you were looking to go to an AMP location and didn't really want full service; is there any one of the places you would suggest over another? I always get that look when I say I just want the handshake that I've just killed their dog. So generally I end up getting the full treatment even though that's not what I am there for. Do you guys ask to see who's available? I always just get whoever the mamasan decides to send in. Three weeks ago I was at Tokyo and I got someone who was okay, but as I was leaving a solid 9 walked by. Young 19 or 20, short. Almost went back for another session.

BJ Daty

10-10-04, 00:09

Hey Varsity Town,

Thanks for the post on the ls gota try them one day. What did you pay hf and tipe?

I am realy into DFK so I am going to try it out.

RealFun

10-10-04, 02:51

Spy Hunter, welcome aboard. Great job on holding out on price. I never heard of that, where they bring in another girl and the mamasan. Crazy. F* that. Kudos to you, and the girl too, for dealing with the frustration and conflict well enough to proceed with a good session. That's awesome.

Next time? Do you really think you'll bring $.60 in next time? Probably not. Let them boot you, there are 5 other amps and a couple of ls's.

A bit more about Bebe: tall or short, filled out or slender? Thanks.

Spy Hunter

10-10-04, 10:00

I would never pay $.6 for a session unless it's a daily double. In my opinion, the standard rate should be $- $.2 with extra tip for a great session.

Bebe is 26 yrs old, 5'4", 115 lbs, B cup.

Member #6131

10-10-04, 10:53

Spy Hunter,

When you say .6 your talking about the house fee only?

TheShadow2

10-10-04, 11:48

I would assume he meant 160, with the "$" sign representing 100, and the ".6" representing 60.
Sounds like them against us in the driving up the price war.
Hold firm at $.4 guys!
Where does it end? 1.8 not far behind, then of course $$ not long after that :-(

Spy Hunter

10-10-04, 16:56

The explanation by TheShadow2 is correct. The house fee was 40. The service fee was 160 but I got a discount after much negotiation. I agree, we should try to keep the rate at 120-140.

RealFun

10-11-04, 04:06

Hold firm at $120!

We seem to take it all pretty seriously here on the board, but when you're in the room don't act serious at all. On the first one to three times she tries to insist on more, just hold firm and tell her that's all you pay everywhere else. If she asks where, say everywhere. Once she has objected 2-3 times, its time to tune her out.

Respond to her first few comments politely and calmly. Show no emotion. Say that's all you ever pay. Say that's all you got. Make sure you are the first one to disengage from the conversation. Ignore her. You are not annoyed. You are not budging. You are bored with her blah blah blah.

If she seems incredibly persistent then go to take the money out of her hand. She won't let you get it. You make a half ass effort for it. She won't let you get to it. Then let her hold it and go for your clothes. If she calls your bluff then leave. If mamasan asks what's wrong say, "Nothing's wrong. She's a nice girl. Pretty, good service. Just too much money for the tip. I'm going somewhere else."

No matter how upset they seem with you, if they grudgingly accept the tip then honor the deal and go back to the room to start over. Now for the hard part: put it behind you. Get it out of your head. Because when the girl comes back to the room, she'll sure seem like it all never happened. You can't let her beat you at this phase, either. Don't still be smoldering about it when she returns all chipper, singing some happy K-pop tune and throwing you sweet seductive looks.

You won! Now don't hand her the victory by letting the whole negotiation episode ruin the session. Be a man about it. At least put on a show of it.

I'm not saying it from me to you, to be a man, I'm saying that's the image you need to project. You are the man. You have the power. You have the money that she wants. You have the freedom to come and go as you please, she's stuck in the same spa, at least until she calls one of her ulnis and earns enough scratch for a flight outa there.

It all seems like such a hassle. But its a game. The best girls realize this. The best clients realize this and don't take it too seriously. Me saying this and you reading it doesn't make it easy or automatic. But if you progress in this direction, you'll find it to be less of a hassle.

All I can say is I'm sick of PT and their hardcore tactics. I expect a working girl (sw, escort, mp worker, whatever...) to try to get as much as she can. It was like that since the beginning of this profession and I think we all know how old it is.

They fully expect us to try to get the best deal. But really, if 160-180 is what's on the table, then what's 20 either way?

Here's some math to put it all into perspective for you, the client. If you're upset because you can never suceed at getting the girl to go down from 140 to 120, then you are only getting 8 visits for the price of 9.

I'm sensitive to the situtation of guys for whom money is tight. Well, for you guys, it will probably take a long time to get 8-9 visits done, anyways. Lets say you do that many in a year. So look back on the previous 12 months and realize you could have had one more session in there somewhere. Obviously, its not that big of a deal when one visit is spread out over such a long time.

If you can go much more often, then that last 20 probably isn't going to break the bank for you, either. So its really not an economic issue for any of us at all. And neither is it for them.

ITS ALL JUST A GAME!

Be loose, have fun with it, take it with a grain of salt, you got nothing to "prove" to your fellow hobbyists here. Do your best, but most importantly do what's best for your individual session. If you got the dough and you feel like you're spoiling the mood by low balling her then pay whatever feels right at the time.

But just try to keep in the back of your mind the things that we are discussing here about trying to keep prices down. Even if you bid high, as you hand her that 160 tip don't be embarassed about what we'll think, don't feel like you're getting skunked, don't feel anything bad at all. Its spent, its done, let it go. Keep the mood light and fun.

BUT - in the back of your mind try to stay aware of how things would be different if you held out a bit. Try to observe her closely, try to understand her point of view and how you coulda gone lower. Just don't let it ruin your session, its really not worth it.

Rant over. This time no report, either. Sorry so long I'm tired and rambling.

Lastly, my point of view isn't the only valid one. Everyone has his own style and agenda. If its fun for you to gloat over never paying more than 100 than more power to you. If you hate all of it and just pay 200 every time and it makes you feel like a big shot then fine.

This is all just my humble opinion and random ramblings. zzzzz... g'night...

Max01

10-11-04, 12:29

Does anyone know what happen at CL on Friday night. I was drving over there a little before 10:00pm and there were 4 cop cars parked right in front. I decided not to stop and went else where.

Mac Man

10-11-04, 14:30

Just a question for all you LS regulars out there.

Since these are supposed to be Lingerie Modeling Shops, do any of the
girls allow photos?

Hayley, if you read this, I'm sure you'll know the answer.

I've never visited Exclusive or Chantilly Lace, but might, if I might be able to do some quick photo work. Feel free to PM me if you have some specific suggestions.

Mac Man

Ken Blue Eyes

10-11-04, 17:55

I'll tell you, it's a real challenge not to let the negotiating alter the mood of a session.

I also saw BeeBee at Paradise. She used about every trick to get me to move off of $120, including telling me that she reads the internet reports and that $160 is the going rate. I just kind of snorted at that. She didn't go get the mamasan, but she did tell me that my negative attitude about paying mroe than $120 was scaring her. I held firm and got the session for $120. Again, consistent with my last time at Paradise, she said that it would be a one-time thing and that I would have to pay more next time.

I didn't really connect with BeeBee. She is very attractive and has a talented tongue, but personality-wise, I just didn't think she was all that much fun. After one time at PT and two at Paradise, I think I'm going to test the waters elsewhere on my next trip. I wonder if there are any Saturn type AMPS which provide a solid low price without the hard negotiations. *grin*

Ken

Chief_Wiggum

10-11-04, 18:36

Hey VT,

What does Raven look like? I've been meaning to go to RFD, but I can't find the time.

RealFun

10-12-04, 06:43

RealFun wrote:

[quote]
Given one constant, my prediction:

Rainbow --> Paradise --> Pine Tree --> *Osaka*
[quote]

Well, that one constant is already out of the picture. So ends my prediction. I really thought that a certain development would have lasted longer. If it would have, Osaka could have eventually given PT a run for its money. Looks like things are back to normal already.

I'm disappointed in more ways than one.

Both girls and the mamasan are nice enough, so I can give them all a generic thumbs up. And that's all I really should say.

Let me warn everyone right now. Don't even ask me anything about Sunny at Osaka, I've lost all ability to be objective about her. I better chickety-check myself before I wreck myself. Do not read anything into this about her, because its all about me. I'm in a bad way guys. I am soooo fucked. The only thing good I can say about the situation is that I'm not in love. No chance of that happening. Short of that, its about as bad as it gets. Your mileage will most definitely vary.

She's cute and sexy and sincere and provides good consistent service and has received positive reports from a few others here besides myself. Lets just leave it at that.

Gardener

10-12-04, 12:00

Anyone turn to streets for action? I would like to know the strolls as I am new to Rockford.

Jack Spratt III

10-12-04, 14:24

Realfun,

Sunny is at Osaka? Is this the same Sunny that was at PT?

Mr Stinky

10-12-04, 19:13

Okay. I've been threatening to do it and finally on Monday I did. Went to PT Monday morning and the place was empty. No customers. Coco was there and we had a nice chat. She said she took a few days off, which is why no one saw her. She told me Pink would take care of me. It was very unusual, because instead of going to the shower right away, we stayed in the room and played a bit. Hugging and kissing, laying on the bed, playing touchy feely. After 15 minutes or so, headed off to the shower. A great and very thorough table shower, again taking a lot of time. No sauna, just back to the room. After all that work up, I decided that I'd try the one thing I've always wanted. Two girls. Pink was very aggreeable to it. It was expensive, but I figured I'd try it. Pink brought in Jen or Gem. Not sure of her name, but a cute girl with short hair. I won't go into a blow by blow, but with two girls you get two pops. One from each girl. And of course, Pink had her way with Jen/Gem. A totally beautiful sight.
Now my fantasy is concluded. Cost was double house fee and a buck sixty for each. Like I said, expensive, but I had to try it. And there was no rush at all. I was in there about an hour and a half. Again, in my humble opinion, worth it.

DJ

RealFun

10-13-04, 06:44

Ken Blue Eyes - Osaka has two girls that would both easily be considered at or above PT & Paradise standards, and neither will bust your chops for more than 120. Tokyo and Royal are also easier to negotiate at, but you can never be sure of the age and looks.

Tokyo will almost always offer great service, if not, they're the best at truly making it up to you while others just pay lip service to making up for lack luster experience. Royal is totally hit or miss in all respects, but that doesn't mean its not worth checking out from time to time.

My big promise of Osaka becoming the lead AMP in the city may not pan out. I mean who knows maybe it will. But a factor that gave it great potential has gone away.

Jack S III: I don't know about Osaka Sunny ever working at PT. I doubt it, I'll try to find out for you. Osaka Sunny's tan isn't as dark as I previously described. Its a medium tan. She's about 5'5", med/slender build similar to Pepi/Pink, but with B cup chest. Also her tan doesn't look like its a recent burn job. Its not overly dark, and looks like it was done a while ago and is on the fade. No hints of golden or reddish hues. Almost kind of a chalky light tan color. She looks great in red clothes. She has slightly prominent top teeth. Very straight and nice, but the shape of her face and mouth is sort of unique, especially when she smiles. Over all she is pretty cute.

She smiles easily. She has a great laugh, too. She has decent english skills and is easy to talk to. Fun and sincere personality. She smells great, and LOOOVES it when you...

I told you not to ask me anything about Sunny. I've lost all objectivity about her.

And don't let me find out that any of you "buddies" have tried to make any moves on her, alright? Back the fuck off, alright? Keep your hands and d***s off/out of her if you know what's good for you!!

Taco Malo

10-13-04, 13:34

Hey David John - I tried the 2 girl as well. But damn! One thing I regretted was not taking my time - I wasn't rushed as well, but was out of there in an hour.

Don't know if I'm ready to drop 4, but if I do I'll take my time next time!

Jack Spratt III

10-13-04, 14:38

Sorry Realfun,

I won't metion her again. Sounds like you were getting a boner just thinking about her!

Obviously not the same girl from PT.

World Wise

10-13-04, 15:17

Any idea what the problem was out in front of Royal last night about 6PM? Two marked cars in the lot and one unmarked Crown Vic with its grill lights on. No cops visable (inside maybe?) and were gone by the time I turned around and drove back from the airport.

Anyway, activity level was very low last evening. Crusied both 7th Street and 11th Street from about 6:30 to 8 with nothing available I was interested in. Evenutally settled for an old favorite who's street name is Blue. She never disappoints! Just becoming a little worn, if you know what I mean.

Seems like Ellie has Rockford somewhat shutdown, streetwise.

Echo Bravo

10-14-04, 04:15

Not confirmed, but the latest news seems to be that Sakura may be closing it's doors for good to consolidate business to one store. I guess McD's has had enough.

Osaka does have a new mamasan that seems to be running a very, very tight ship. The rooms have been rearranged- no fridges in the rooms, new chairs, new half tables, and no towel shelves. One fridge and towel shelf now located in the rear "lobby" area. No post-session shower allowed. The ladies immediately clean their own rooms after the session.

Wirelessone

10-14-04, 11:57

Hey, Hey, first time at Pine Tree and got Pink'd. Hadn't been to Rockford in several years since you guys had all those problems but yesterday the timing and the traffice was right so I decided go.

I could not determine if you guys felt that Pine Tree was the best, in terms of pretty girls but it seemed that way plus they had an ad in Wednesdays Sun Times so it made the choice even easier.

I did have to wait when I got there but Coco was very nice and sat in the room watching television and she said they would be expanding,etc.

All in all I waited 30 minutes because it was busy with mongers already there.

I was led to a room to wait and later in walked a hot chick whose name I did not know. Coco said 'you move to VIP room since u got best girl'. I thought okay sure. Anyway in to the sauna for more waiting then into the shower where I was scrubbed beyond clean admiring what a hot, hot , hot outfits all the girls are wearing. On the way out of the shower, Pink touched and caressed another girl and said maybe next time us and you baby..I was thinking this never happens in DuPage County..yippee!!

Into the room and she asked what I wanted I said everything got our the tip and there was no haggling on her part.

Anyway man does that girl really look at herself in the mirror. I was joking with her that if she were my girlfriend I would make sure one whole room had nothing but floor to ceiling mirrors so that she could look at herself from every angle and even she had to laugh.

Anyway I got the whole Pink treatment that you guys have written about and we hit it off pretty good so that made the session for me pretty great.

If Pink were at an agency here in Chicago, she could easily get $$$ an hour and if she had her teeth fixed and larger boobs then she would get $$$$ here with that tight body she has.

I guess another way to describe Pink would be that she acts the way you would want your Asian girlfriend to act, very much acting like an exhibitionist, wearing hot outfits with no panties.

Anyway I like the session and left. Stopped in at the Steak and Shake where they got my order wrong in the drive thru and why do give you that look when you ask for more than 2 ketchups like you are asking them to give you change for a $100 without giving them the $100. I got that same look in Downstate and in St Louis when I ask for more ketchup there...odd.

So after I got my order straight I turned on my XM radio, got on 90 and headed home thinking you lucky SOB's here in Rockford sure do have some hotties up here in your AMPs.

And on a totally separate note, remember the yearning off all oppressed people is freedom and U.S. is the beacon of light that all oppressed wished their ships could sail towards.

Good day

TheShadow2

10-14-04, 14:33

DavidJohn,
Wow, does that sound hot.
Note to self: Hit Lotto, do two girl.

RealFun,
I'd like to marry Sunny and get her out of the AMP scene. Can you offer any insights or advice as to how I can accomplish this?
Thanks in advance :-)

RealFun

10-14-04, 16:26

TheShadow2 wrote:
[quote]
I'd like to marry Sunny and get her out of the AMP scene. Can you offer any insights or advice as to how I can accomplish this?
Thanks in advance :-)
[quote]

Yeah... be me ;->

Carb

10-14-04, 18:34

Yesterday in Rockford I cruised down 7th & vacinity about 1:30 and saw what I though was an atractive skinny girl with long black hair Circled around and got up close She had a badly pocked or otherwise disfigured face and seemd really spacey. Obviously I went on my way. After a businsess meeting I tried again about 4 and there were 3 girls at 7th St. and 12th Av. As I stopped at the stop sign at 12th one of them with missing teeth asked me how I was and suggested that she could make me feel even better. On the other corner was a semi-attractive blond making suggestive motions. Frankly, I chickened out; I'm so afraid of LE ruining my family life. I would have stopped at Belvidere but I didn't have time for that. Went home.

Carb

Max01

10-14-04, 19:49

I visit Chantiy Lace when ever I get the chance to vistit Rockford. I am not as hardcore as many of you. By this I mean I am not looking for full service. A HJ does me just fine. When I visiting Rockford last weekend 4 cop cars were parked out front. I did not see any officers but I am still trying to find out if anyone knows anything. We plan to visit Rockford this weekend for a Bachelor party.

Can anyone local to Rockford tell me if Chantiy is still open?

Jack Spratt III

10-15-04, 01:59

RealFun,

You and I need to meet and I will buy you a beer or two and explain to you the basic problems in trying to pull an AMP girl and bring you back from fantasy to the real world.

Let me be your lifeline and then we'll go to Paradise for a different viewpoint on the world. We'll probably find even more delectable girls there.

Carb

10-15-04, 12:33

Max 01,

Chantilly was open on Wednesday, although I didn't go in. I did go into Exclusive across the street looking for Hayley, but she wasn't there. I didn't stay.

Carb

TheShadow2

10-15-04, 14:36

Real Fun,
Touche :-)

RealFun

10-15-04, 15:21

Jack - I think I already know some of what you mean, but I'm willing to listen and learn. Actually, its all just in fun. I have absolutely no desire to ever get involved with one of these girls. It would be hard for me to explain to my wife who's the asian girl living in our spare bedroom. I don't think the "nanny" explanation would fly.

Sunny is a great girl. She is sorta the type that I would love to get involved with if I was eligible to date and if I met her in any other way. For most other guys she'll probably prove to be nothing special. She's nice and reliable, anyone would be happy with her service.

But once in a blue moon the stars line up just right and you feel a bit more of a chemistry with a certain girl.

Max01

10-15-04, 18:30

Hey Carb,

Thanks for the update on Chantily still being open. Everyone says that Exclusive is across the street but I can never find it.

Is exclusive on the same road and do they have a store front like Chantily.

Muskateer3

10-15-04, 22:28

Hey Carb,

Speaking of ruining your family life. Take a gander in Belvidere section. Today's newspaper had a huge article on the 2 spas in Belvidere finally coming to a halt. Took 5 years and now politics and LE are on it.

Good Luck.

Jack Spratt III

10-16-04, 03:30

Realfun,

You cool. I thought we were losing you a bit but a good hard slap upside the head was what you needed.

But ain't them fantasies GREAT!

Jack Spratt III

10-16-04, 03:57

To Carb,

You are either LE or a pathetic poseur.

Please point me to one instance of a post by you where you have reported actually fucking a woman (provider or otherwise) this millenium.

Jack Spratt III

10-16-04, 04:08

Realfun,

As the Great Prophet said " I know what you fuckin' mean!"

Jack Spratt III

10-17-04, 02:01

Max01,

With your back to Chantilly, tap your white stick across 7th Street. When you run into a building on the other side of 7th - turn right. There is a small side street coming in from your left that you have to cross.

Stay on the sidewalk but bear left a bit until you hit another building - It's The Exclusive. The entry door is the first thing you will find. No window like Chantilly.

Have your guide dog read this post to you. I don't know if they cater to the dog but I'm sure the other girls will entertain it while you get laid.

RealFun

10-17-04, 04:09

Here are the best things about my more recent visit Paradise. Here are the things that will have me coming back again and again.

First, Chanel greeted me like she had no man in years. I thought we were about to get down and dirty before she could even get the house fee to the office. I asked for Cookie but it almost seemed like Chanel was going to rape me with the door open and everything. Very exciting.

But as much as I wanted to do Chanel, I was even happier when Cookie arrived to my appointment. She gave a great shower for more care to long and slow. Scrubbed everything really well, better than you ever wash yourself. She kinda massaged me during the shower, too. Some spas don't do that, they just get you clean. Cookie gave me a shower that was worth $40 all by itself. Not a lazy, quick soap and rinse that other spas give. If you had a nurse in love with you for saving her life in a war she'd wash you the way Cookie washed me.

That's what every ts should be like. More hands on the skin than that scratchy scrubber thing. Lots of attention where it really counts, almost like a mini hj for free during the shower. A good ts should make you feel like you're about to blow it right there.

When we got back to the room, I gave Cookie $120 for the tip... and I held my breath and waited for it, I knew what was coming. She was going to ask for $40 more dollars. But I was wrong!! She smiled, even bowed a little, said thank you, didn't even count it, and left. When she returned she was in a great mood.

The session was awesome. I decided not to get a massage so we just got started. Several positions, she loved all of them. Sometimes hard and fast, sometimes slow. She never made the slightest hint about time. We went on and on and on. She had great muscle control and she used it during the whole session. Not just a little bit for a few seconds, or only at the end when I'm coming. Some lazy girls do that, they only give you about one minute of muscle control. Cookie's muscle control is legendary and she keeps it going the whooooole time. Luckily, I had sex earlier in the day so I was able to last a long time. I was sure that pretty soon someone would yell through the door to hurry up.

Don't you hate that when you're in the best part of a session, your pleasure is getting to its peak and then you hear someone in the hall yell to your girl? And then she has to answer. Even though you don't know korean, you know damn well what they're saying. The woman in the hall is telling your girl to hurry, and your girl is saying that she's trying.

Well, that never happens at Paradise! They let you go on and on and take as long as you like and never complain. So when we did finish the fun part, I figured we already used up so much time that I should just get dressed to leave.

Not so fast! Cookie offered to give me a massage. I didn't think she really needed to, but I wasn't going to say no. I figured she'd just give me a quick rub and chop-chop to revive me a bit, and that would have been great. But instead, she gave me a real long massage. Neck, back, arms, butt, legs, feet, etc. Then when I thought she was done, she did a bunch of different stretches. She even had me lay on my back and kept massaging and stretching. It was amazing. There is no other spa in the city that treats you this good.

When we finished I was so impressed that I decided to tip a little extra. Before you guys get mad at me for paying too much, I have to say that when the service is extra special, the girl deserves a little something extra. So as I got dressed, I offered Cookie $20 more, which would have added up to a $140 tip.

She kindly refused it, and told me to save it for my next visit! Imagine that, a spa girl saying "no thank you" to money! So I guess the lesson I learned is that you only have to take $160 in with you, and that will cover house fee and tip.

Ken Blue Eyes, you wrote that BeeBee told you that she saw on the internet that the normal tip price is $160. Boy, was she wrong!! The normal tip price EVERYWHERE is $120. Especially at Paradise. Even if you try to give them more they won't take it!

So Ken B.E., maybe you just got unlucky that day or something.

Seriously, everything in this post is true. When you go to Paradise, all you need is $160 total. The shower is the best of any other spa. You can take your time and no one will ever rush you. If all the girls are free when you arrive, they'll let you have your choice. If you want a certain girl, but she's busy, they'll let you wait for her if you want. Chanel wants the customer to get what he wants and be happy.

The girls work extra hard during every phase. Long boom boom, long massage, the girls never take short cuts or try to leave something out.

If every girl at Paradise can give every customer service that's just as good as what I got, then they will definitely be the number one spa.

I know, I know, I said the same thing about Osaka. But, when I talked about Osaka, I said "given one constant..." and that constant went away. Well for Paradise there isn't "one constant" there are many. If they can constantly do everything the way I described, and do it all for $40/house $120 tip and never complain or ask for more, then I'm sure that they will be the most number one.

RealFun

10-19-04, 06:18

Monica is back at Osaka.

I sent out what should have been a two part pm to a few different people. It was right at the beginning of when Jackson started upgrading. Apparently my pm's got kinda messed up. Let me know if you only got one part and I'll send you the rest. Sorry for any duplicates.

BTW, I like the new board. Very ambitious, definitely worth the trouble.

SeekPetite

10-19-04, 06:31

The new forum looks great. Can't wait till I'm awake enough to go through the new features.

RealFun

10-19-04, 08:39

Oops, forgot to add something more important...

Jun is back, too, sort of. She'll be in and out a lot. But her presence and effect will be felt as long as she's in town. Gotta give it up for the premier AMP manager. Wish there were more like her, wish she could stick around. Go to Osaka while she's there; ask for her; give her props while you may.

World Wise

10-20-04, 11:58

Come on guys. I know the AMPs are fun, but doesn't anyone but me follow the street scene in Rockford? Was there last evening, and found things to be hopping. Very low key, but many providers out and available. Activity level of mongers was low, but much to chose from!

Selected a 30 y/o WSW who I had met two years ago. Retired to a local motel and did the deed. $40 for full service, plus a sandwich enroute. Well worth the investment, then watched the Yankees get beat. Great evening.

Hayley

10-21-04, 12:44

I am able to do the lactation thing now. I had the baby last Mon. evening on the 11th. I started back yesterday at Exclusive. Hopefully I'll see you soon.

XOXO,
Hayley

Mr Stinky

10-21-04, 14:10

Realfun,

Thanks for the pm's. Haven't had a chance to respond, but I appreciate your viewpoints.

New board will take a bit to get used to, since I'm computer illiterate. But nice job, Jackson.

DJ

Carb

10-21-04, 14:20

Last week Friday I was in Rockford briefly and decied to check 7th St. about 4:30 or so. Saw no one out, so I went to see my favorite dancer at Hideaway, then hit the highway back to Chicago. Realfun, I think it is time for me to try Paradise.

Carb

Chi Guy

10-22-04, 17:24

Hayley,

My mother always told me that milk was good for me. Oh, if only she knew! :p

Barney1234

10-23-04, 00:55

I visited with Sunny last Sunday (how appropriate!) at the AMP near E State and Alpine. [I'm not entirely sure what the name is -- I was originally planning to visit Osaka, but I don't think this was it.]

Anyway, the visit reminded me why I love AMPs -- reasonable prices, really, really fun times, good looking masseuses, and no being stood up. I don't know why, but as soon as I contact a provider, sending every piece of personal info short of a DNA sample, they start plotting how to stand me up.

My only complaint was that, apart from the sauna, the building was cold, but Sunny soon solved that problem!

All hail the AMP!

Barney

RealFun

10-24-04, 03:30

Barney - if Sunny was: 5'4"-5'5", 34B, slender with a bit of a shape to her, medium-light all over tan, medium brown hair, and had a good attitude... and if the spa had two doors leading in - one leading left, one to the right, and was a big square shape loop around the middle, then you were at Osaka.

I'm guessing that's where you were at. The only other AMP near State and Alpine is Pine Tree, and I doubt they'd let you get away with a 120 tip without a fight.

Glad you enjoyed it.

RealFun

10-25-04, 02:00

Osaka: Monica's gone already. Her replacement is also short, but not so skinny. Not petite, filled out, but not exactly thick or stocky. Cute and seems to have a decent attitude but I don't have a first hand report of her service. I couldn't get a straight answer about her name, but her and Sunny are the only two there.

Nancy at Pine Tree does a decent job with the warm up but checks out and rushes the main event. Not too disappointing, however. Cute enough for Pine Tree standards.

Member #2650

10-25-04, 18:32

I saw a new girl at the Pine the other week by the name of Sue. She was drop dead gorgeous with a nice tan (peanut butter), mid back hair, and pretty big boobs. They were fake, but they were very nice. Her english was not the greatest, but her service was good.Everything covered, but she let me finish Russian, and her asian was terrific. My only complaint is that she would not go down in price. 40/160, but damn, she looked good!

Mr Stinky

10-26-04, 12:18

Stopped by Osaka yesterday. There were no other cars in front, but I believe there was someone else in the place. Chanel was really weird. Opened the dorr you normally come out. Acted very suspicious of me. I told her I've been there many times, but acted like she didn't believe me. Told her last time I saw Sunny. Took the door fee and left. Couple minutes later, came back and wanted to know if I was from Wisconsin. Must have thought I was Realfun. Anyway, Sunny finally comes in and is wearing the lab coat. Made her look good. Took me to the shower and gave a generic scrub. On the flip, asked me to wash my own jewels. I told her politely, that was her job. After contact was made, she seemed more at ease. Got back to the room and she put a towel over me and left. During the course of the massage, she left several times. No door bell or anything, just said she'd be back. Descent back massage, but on the flip she made her move. Played around a little and asked what I wanted. Told her fs. She said okay and left again. I took the 6 Jacksons and put them on the table and got back in position. She came back in, turned down the lights and went to work. Had a very enjoyable session. Afterwards, left and got a hot cloth for clean-up. When all of that was finished, for the first time, she took the money and put it in her pocket. NEVER looked at it or counted it. Helped me get dressed and out the door. Again, the amazing thing is, I could have left her 60 or 80 and she never looked at it. And after the session, back on went the lab coat. Strange.

DJ

Can Show You

10-26-04, 14:46

Sorry this took so long. Been ont he road a while so this report is a month old. on the way to PT, Changed mind and went to Paradise. Too many construction workers there carrying stuff in and out. Was around am. Like most mongers i tend to be pretty discrete, and dont wanna have some hard hat hold open the door for me carrying a plank. (are they done yet?) Drove to Paradise and enjoyed the parking in back, buzzed in. Mamasan asked if i had been there before, told her normally at PT. She showed me to a room and sent in June. Wasnt offered a choice, but she was fine. Is it normal to ask for a choice? What is the normal proceedure, do's and don's on that issue? I was taken to Sauna and sat there too long for my liking, close to ten minutes id guess. I think i will ask to skip that next time. Place was empty or near empty, so it wasnt as a holdling pattern..... Also thought girl choice would have been offered due to higher availiblity.

TS was good to very good, very clean but no tease. Massage was very good. Legs, hands, toes, feet arms. Accidental touches were well done and appreciated. Overall massage was an 8, there was effort and time was taken. Tiny touch of GFE as laid side by side to ask what i wanted. Told her a HJ would do. After .5 detail was taken care of, was told to face down. Pace was nice and my response was excellent. Flip brought a smile i thought was genuine. Liberal use of lotion by one hand was good , but redirected to use two: facial response was awsome. asked and was allowed top access. Just pulled up, not off though. I would have to guess aftermarket B's. Firm , taut like everything else, not fully responsive, but good. Have to give her an 8 on body and looks overall. I love petite, so ymmv on this. Bagan to feel rushed, but my ego wants to think it was excitement. Eventually she won that battle. I suprised her with both volume and distance but pace was fast, almost non stopping. Later had to point out things in places she didnt know about, many smiles for that! Linens were addressed immediatly. I looked to the table and the bending over look stunned me. She looked at me and just gave me this look. It did not last long., here eyes dropped and she stared. I enjoyed that compliment and moved forward. Her eyes remained locked as i closed in behind her. My hands lifted the skirt and my mind raced. Her back was arched and my hand on her hips, then the spell was broken. I just wasnt sure, and I am still not. I paid some compliments , as no better words would come out. She didnt dress me, kinda handed me things. Oh well.

I'd reccomend.

Can any one clarify total and break down of price for Exec? I know door is higher , but not sure what if any extras are included in that .85 (right?) Is parking and door discreet? Know a few folks in that town. Any extra heat there due to newpaper story on court case? Whos petite and whos isnt but on must see list?
Thanks for reading and thanks for respoding!

RealFun

10-27-04, 07:12

Met Sasha at Paradise. Very pretty face but not enough to justify the attitude. Decent overall shape, except for the wrinkly rolls on her sides. She looks slightly different since she's from Hawaii, nice tan.

When she got stuck on insisting on 160 tip, I said I never pay that to anyone. She said then its less with the other girls, but 160 with her. So I told her to send in another girl, and she didn't hesitate to leave. Minutes later in walked Cookie.

I've bought some simple inexpensive gifts for girls in the past. I used to base it on whoever I was liking to see at a certain time. I did it because I wanted to see the girl with a certain item that I like. As the gifts I bought became more expensive (moving from thongs and thigh high stockings into bustiers and bra/panty/garter belt sets, etc) I tried to spend that kind of money only on girls that I felt would appreciate it.

At first I was a pretty poor judge of that, and would occasionally drop some dough on a chick that equates genorosity/kindness with weakness. It sucks when you start to like a chick (non-romantically, strictly in the confines of the business arrangement), get her a gift, and its like flipping a switch and she goes from being your buddy to suddenly thinking she can play you.

I believe I've gotten better at selecting the recipients of the gifts. At least they don't change for the worse after the gift. But I have yet to find a girl that is willing to show her appreciation in actions and not just words. The next paragraphs are directed towards AMP owners, managers and workers as much as it is to my fellow hobbyists.

It involves dropping $70, $80 even $100 on a girl... and its not just the money... it takes time and consideration to call a mamasan or co-worker to get her size and measurements, maybe fish for some comments about what style she likes... then shopping at a few different stores, consulting with knowledgable sales staff... picking out quality brand items... etc. This isn't running into some cheesy porn palace and dropping $20 on some cheap costume crap and hoping it fits. Sometimes it involves assembling an ensemble from a couple different stores, going back and forth a few times.

Before any of y'all start thinking I go too far overboard obsessing over a chick that's just out for my money, realize that often times I tie in the shopping excursions with other shopping I'm doing for other ladies in my life. I'm a big fan of lingerie, and I love the AMP girls (who, as you know, never wear those styles) and it suits me to combine those two pleasures. I really want to see those hotties in Fredericks of Hollywood attire, and that's only going to happen if I do the shopping. No biggie.

So I figure why not go that one extra step and make sure that the gift is something that's a good match for the girl, fits right and is comfortable, and that she maybe will learn to wear with everyday attire long after she's left Rockford (and me) behind.

And usually if I like the chick well enough to go through all of this, chances are that I'll be seeing her (exclusively, or nearly so) several times a month. Often times its a girl I've seen come and go to different AMPs over a few years time. You'd think that if the girl is seeing me dozens of times over the years, the least the ***** could do is model the stuff for me when I return to see her again. I mean, would that really be asking too much?

Every time I get stung on this I look back on the situation and swear it won't happen again. Then I meet a chick that I think is "different" or "better" than the previous ones. I'm not going to the extreme that a Liebermann would go to and claim that all ho's are just money-grubbing bitches. But I will say that there must be something about AMP chicks specifically that makes them genetically or culturally unable to SHOW true appreciation. Of course, they all EXPRESS gratitude, but...

...actions speak louder than words. To any AMP workers that read this: if you've gotten gifts from me, you failed to SHOW appreciation. In one recent example I only asked the chick to wear a pair of stockings I had gotten her (not even asking her to put on the bustier I got her) and she comes out wearing stockings given to her by someone else... gee, thanks, hon.

To any managers that read this: you're not training or supervising them very well. You are also responsible for the gradual decrease in quality of massage (remember Rainbow? no matter how hot the chick, most of them still worked hard on the massage, its gotten kinda hit 'n' miss), increase of bad attitudes, involvement with drugs, greediness, etc. As much as I love the AMPs and post about them exclusively, I must admit a very gradual decline in overall performance over the years.

To mamasans and owners: you're allowing a gradual downhill decline in how today's young girls represent the korean culture and work ethic. It used to be the case that guys would go to AMPs because the effort put into it would blow away most other category of providers who seemed to want to get by making easy money counting ceiling tiles. An AMP was a place where you'd get pampered and rubbed and stomped and sweated and popped like no where else.

That's still the case today. But years ago you could get an awesome experience probably 80%-90% of the time. Boards like this didn't exist, but they were virtually unnecessary, too. Now, this board is needed more than ever just so you can dodge the influx of lazy players with bad attitudes and try to find the few rare gems. Now excellence is only 10%-20% of the time, the percentages have reversed. Its funny because usually the older ones still have the "old school" attitude of hard work. Unfortunately, many of them have had it rough and are burnt out, or just past their prime physically... and by that I mean they let themselves go, too many years of smoking and sleep deprivation and gaining weight.

Sorry about the rant. There are a few select individuals out there who know that this post is directed at them. I ain't buying shit for any korean amp girls. Each time I think, OK, this time I found a girl that doesn't take this kind of kindness for granted like the others have... this one is different, she's the type that isn't too lazy to SHOW her appreciation. I haven't been right yet.

This is primarily directed at C. and her boss C. (boss otherwise known as M.) and also to S. and her boss K.

Whew. OK, I feel better now. Thanks for bearing with me and letting me get this off my chest.

I recently had an unusually excellent time at Tokyo. The girls were pretty average, but the effort was far and above the call of duty. You may want to demand a line up if you decide to roll the dice there. Ymmv, tell mamasan I sent you, it may help.

Member #2650

10-27-04, 08:05

Hoser

10-27-04, 12:35

I was holding out for the ability to start a new thread but I can't do that - either because it's not ready or I'm not a senior member. Someone asked for info on the stroll and this is a repeat of my prior post (which would have been the start of the Rockford street faq if could have started a thread). I am thinking we need a strip club thread and for christ's sake an amp thread. Not sure about a thread for the ls.

The stroll from west to east:

Kishwaukee (parallel to 6th St. and 3 blocks west) from State all the way south to Broadway. When the heat is on the girls migrate over that far.

5th St. where it makes the funny curve - around 6th Ave. Many girls prefer this area to 7th St. because it is a little calmer, but sometimes the cops run them off as this is residential.

6th through 8th St. from State all the way south to 18th. Now that the cops are running girls off the residential street on 8th and just north of Broadway, look far north on 7th and 8th as well as a little south of Broadway. The best looking girls usually stay away from ground zero anyway and are found south of Broadway or between 8th and 9th where there is less heat, but you may spend a long time looking.

Broadway from 6th east to 11th.

11th from Broadway south to Sandy Hollow. Girls don't work out of the Pump Handle (management really polices the place) but you will occasionally find a girl a block off 11th either near the hotel or on the other side of 11th. I think those girls don't live there (why do that in your own backyard) but go there on the assumption guys will be nosing around the area.

In that same area, if you go east off 11th on to Harrison you may have some luck in the neighborhoods south of Harrison (trailer parks nearby) but it's been a while for me.

If you want far west, try Church Street across the river but you will rarely find WSWs there. If you go over that way, go north to Auburn then go west. You will see many apartment buildings on Auburn and in the summer you will occasionally find a nice looking white girl in daisy dukes happy to make some cash.

There are a couple motels on the far west side of town (take state street west past the Farm and Fleet almost until you hit farmland). There must be action in the area but I don't get over that way and assume it is all BSW given the neighborhood.

If anyone has any further information, please share. If it is something incendiary (open and obvious like the motels that got shut down) please pm me instead.

Hoser

10-27-04, 13:24

As long as I reposted the stroll information I may as well repost the club info. There is actually some new info here. If someone has the power to create a thread with this, go for it.

This part of the post is from RogerC's excellent post of 11/15/03:

Here are a list of Rockford Clubs that I know about. I'm listing them in monger order, not favorite order.

1. Hideaway
2. (tie) the Flag (more private than Surf)
2. Surf (more friendly than Flag)
4. Paradise Lounge
5. Bigfoot Lounge: Wide-open room, but tucked away from the rest of the bar.
6. State Street Station: Very crowded and monitored VIP room.

Never been to:
?. Tiger Tail

I would add that Tiger Tail is run by the same people as State Street Station and so not likely to become a monger hotspot. SSS is the prototypical mob-run strip joint: pretty girls, lots of fun, absolutely no extras.

The deal if you don't know is that at SSS you can touch anything that's not covered and all the girls wear thong bikinis. Everyplace else in town is a bit looser (or a lot looser). The cost for a dance here is $10, the cost everywhere else $20. So this is a great place to have a few beers, watch pretty girls, and get a few dances from every girl that strikes your fancy all for less than $100, but no extras are available. Having said that, I did notice one of the TT girls in an ad for a local escort service in the local adult paper the Sundowner, so you never know.

At most of the rest of the places $20 goes a long way. The exception is Bigfoot, which has even younger and better looking girls than SSS but charges $20 for a SSS-mileage lapper. Not bad by Chicago standards but I don't wind up there too much since I can get close to the same quality girl for $10 at SSS or get raped buying multiple dances from the right girl at $20 per dance elsewhere. If you have a whole lot of cash to blow this is a fine place though.

The Surf is too gang-y for most. They periodically make efforts to clean it up, succeed a little, then relapse. It is only a block away from the Hideaway and worth sticking your head in from time to time. For some reason there are panhandlers or drug dealers who hassle people as they try to go in here, but that never happens at the Hideaway - they must bust heads if the guys try to work the other side of the street.

There are a couple bars that have dancers only on certain nights and they would be near the top of Roger's list since they don't have "regular" girls but independents. I have even seen a SW dancing at one of these places. The Rusty Nail has dancers after 8 on Thursday and Saturday nights. I forget the name of the other bar. You can find them - as well as numbers to escort services - in the local adult rag you will find in any strip club.

Don't believe a dancer who wants more than $100 outcall or who wants ls money for taking care of you on top of the $20 lap dance fee. Once things start to go well just tell the girl you've got $80 for 4 dances and you want to be fully satisfied by then. You have to use your big head in a bar - bail after the first dance if she won't play, look for the girls who give high mileage to guys who tip them on stage, or girls who are all over guys who buy them a beer; avoid those who just walk up and ask "wannadance?" Girls cannot be too obvious; periodically the owners find out who is working and fire them - the girls who play tend to come and go quickly. The Hideaway in particular is known for its mass extinctions. Which bars are hot changes every month as the owners can the party girls; if you're not feeling any love, move on to the next one. If you want to nail a stripper it takes some time to prospect; if your time is limited then go in understanding you might not find your dream girl and you won't be disapointed if you just get a couple of nice lap dances.

I would be remiss if I did not mention the Vegas Club and the Bear Chest just over the border in Wisconsin. The Bear Chest in Beloit is full nude and the girls do mini-laps for dollars after their sets. The place varies as to whether girls are available for takeout or foreplay; also, some nights the girls are great looking and some nights, to borrow the words of another poster on the board, it looks like the revenge of the alien space monsters. If you are in Rockford and seeking full nude a quick trip to the Bear Chest is always worth rolling the dice. The girl who ran herd over the girls at the Chest and really kept the extras in check is leaving so there is a real possibility it will be a great time.

The Vegas Club in Darien/Delavan is a little further away. As recently as 2 years ago this place was an absolute playground with better looking girls than SSS/Bigfoot, more mileage and $5 laps. Laps have gradually increased to $15 reducing customers and the quality of girls. They have a couple VIP rooms there which are nice if you have that cash (check out their website). However, the quality of the girls has gone down both in terms of looks and personality - there is more turnover and there are more hustlers. It is still worth checking out if you're bored with the Rockford clubs or want prettier girls. Avoid the other clubs up that way - the Show Palace, Screeming Mee Mees and the other one in Janesville - they're just not as good.

RealFun

10-28-04, 03:23

Osaka does it again. As much as I'm all hung up on Sunny, I was in the mood to try someone new and different. I saw Young in passing during my last visit with Sunny. She's short and real cute and I was looking forward to meeting her. But I didn't state my preference at the door because I knew Sunny was on vacation and assumed that Young was the only choice.

Turns out another new girl has arrived on the scene and Kim (manager) sent Mimi in to see me instead. I was pleasantly surprised. Similiar in size and shape to Sunny (5'5" slender) but without the tan. Very genuine, fun, flirty without overacting. She worked hard at every stage. Sometimes new girls come on strong at the beginning. They are often coming off a vacation, and often feel a need to prove to the new boss that they're good workers. Also to establish their rep right away in a new town, sometimes its even competitiveness with the other girls that have been around for a while.

Whatever the case, I have to give my highest recommendation to the fresh meat. Not that Sunny's service was ever lacking, but maybe she'll return refreshed and energized to compete. Service from any one individual girl will always be better when she's working alongside other strong workers.

While PT continues to spoil the mood with the play for 160 I think the two serious choices are Paradise and Osaka. P.B. (also previously referred to as BeeBee) and Sasha have both proven themselves to be ball busters for 160. And Sasha thinks she's all that just because of a pretty face, but when she looks in the mirror she doesn't seem to see the love handles. Cookie accepts 120 relatively easily but a few here have reported that she's not exactly their tastes.

Well Osaka's girls are all at or above PT/Paradise standards, and at worst will make a weak play for 140 before they quickly and easily settle on 120. Especially if you get it once and they remember you, it won't even be an issue ever again, 120 will be accepted right away. And if you got two girls or more that give solid performances, then competitiveness kicks in and high quality snowballs. Cookie at Paradise will consistently provide excellent service regardless of what anyone else is doing. But I'd still rather go to a spa where there's a 3-way competition for who can earn the best rep.

I think this week the smart money is on Mimi at Osaka. In my last post I said that at Tokyo its OK to say that RealFun gave them a recommendation. But at Osaka they still tend to be a bit sketchy about internet discussion so I'd keep that on the down low. If anyone asks why you're asking for Mimi just say a friend told you about her and don't say anything about me. Thanks.

Member #1376

10-28-04, 08:55

I will be in town next week for one night. Does anyone have a contact number for a WSW that is skinny and offers a good GFE?

Young Man

10-28-04, 23:05

Hey all,

This has nothing to do with picking up chicks, it has to do with protecting yourself from your wife finding out.

My best friend was busted by his wife yesterday. I guess Oprah had a special on checking up on your husband's internet habits. Well she did what Oprah told her ; and found out all sorts of stuff about him. So just a friendly reminder if your wife watches Oprah you should clean up after yourself.

For IE: click on Tools, Internet Properties, and Clean History. While you are there you might want to limit the days you keep history.

Being the computer geek that I am he called me up this morning asking how to make sure it does not happen again. Wow did he get his butt kicked. This confirms my belief that the best sort of wife is the outsourced AMP kind ;)

Take Care

YM

Wirelessone

10-29-04, 14:50

Realfun,

I agree with you about Sasha at P/T and her insistence on 160 but I did strike a comprise with her. I told her that if her service was up to par then she keeps the 160 but if not then I get 40 back, she took me up on the offer.

The girl delivered. Sasha speaks a very deep translated french !!! I am about average size and luckily had let one go earlier or from her french alone it would have been game over.

Moving to the main course was performed with hesitation and in multiple positions, again with her moving, muscle control and light kissing she let me go own for a good 20 minutes of intense full service. So yep, I did not ask for a refund and she to me was worth it. Bear in mind that us guys in Chicago do not have the cuties that you guys get in Rockford not even in the apartments.

Additionally to the monger that was 'driving home his point' last monday around 10pm while Sasha had me in the shower, well all I can say is you go boy!

Sasha is not the tight body that say Pink is but she does have really nice nips!

I have been to Rockford three times in the last three weeks. I was Pink'd twice and went to Pine tree on my third trip. Will go again prolly on election day since the kiddies will be out of school and I wont be 'on the clock' with the significant other...I guess I will try Osaka this time.

SeekPetite

10-29-04, 15:55

Awhile back I hooked up with a cute WSW. She provided a telephone number, which turned out to be her manager/pimp. This manager has a few girls working for him. I’ve visited various house, partied with him and met a few girls. When I called today he said there was a sweep last Thursday that netted 18 girls. He had only three today, all of which I’ve seen before. He added the girls in lock up should be released tomorrow.

RealFun

10-30-04, 06:16

Jenny at Paradise: short, cute in an unorthodox way. Nice soft curvy shape to her, not firm yet not pudgy. One of the most intelligent women I've ever met, in or out of the hobby, unusually excellent english skills. Interesting tattoo on her back.

It would be insane for me to even attempt to make any kind of objective guess about what her service is like. If I wrote what went down I'd have to disclaim it with the strongest possible ymmv. Suffice it to say you won't be disappointed. If you enjoy conversation about art, music and the finer things in life she's THE ONLY amp chick that can pull that off. She's cultured and has excellent tastes. I've never met anyone like her in an AMP.

If you couldn't care less about that floofy bullshit she's still a solid choice. Great attitude, accomodating, skills are more than adequate, etc. For your average hobbyist looking for a typical AMP experience, I think she's a great recommendation. If you are seriously considering going to see her, then you MUST pm me for a most excellent tip. If you're not going to see her then there's no point in asking for it

RealFun

10-31-04, 03:39

I don't want to give the wrong impression about Jenny. If you're not into the intelluctual cultural artsy bs then don't let that deter you from seeing her. Some chicks like that can also be kinda snooty or geeky in a brainy way. Jenny is very down to earth, no ego issues. I'm pretty sure that if I would have never engaged in discussions that led into certain subjects then I never woulda known all that about her.

If nothing else, what is really refreshing about her is that she's much less tied to the "script." Between her good english and her attitude you don't have to deal with that saccharin gfe that its so hard to break amp chicks out of. She seems much less of a cultural korean female, therefor much easier to relate to and make a quick and easy breezy connection with.

If you really want to get on her good side then sneak in a bottle of excellent whisky for her. Don't let mamasan see it. Not anything generic, I mean top shelf stuff. No Johnny Walker or Beam or Jack. Something like Dalmore or Basil Hayden's or Maker's Mark or Baker's. Also some club soda. Or, take her a jazz cd. Not Kenny G, but real old school jazz. Miles, Trane, Chet, etc. PM for tips and recommendations if whiskey and jazz ain't your bag.

$12 worth of cd will get you $20-$40 worth of upgraded service, she will be very appreciative.

RealFun

11-01-04, 14:28

I love a woman that can drink 94 proof whisky from a flask without a hint of a facial reaction. Now that's a keeper.

Also, after a second visit I realize she's a little more firm than I thought. You can see some definition in the stomach area. Still, not a hardbody (which I actually think is preferable) but she's got a great shape overall. Nice natural chest, no implants. Of course, I'm speaking of Jenny at Paradise.

Also at Paradise, Cookie is gone. I got a quick glance of the other two there now besides Jenny. Initial impression is nothing special yet nothing wrong. So if you want you could toftt but I'd recommend going for a known entity and asking for Jenny. If nothing else I can guarantee you will never ever encounter another AMP chick that is even a little bit like Jenny.

Back at Osaka, Young is gone for good. Sunny is back, which leaves her and Mimi. Both of them are solid choices, too.

Member #2650

11-01-04, 16:42

Cellman

11-02-04, 14:32

First I'd like to thank Real Fun for all his insight and advise on this board.I've been seeing escorts and lately, is it me or are they just getting out of hand with the $$$ they charging to see them.Is their time worth that much? I've read this board for some time now and thinking of trying the AMP.But always worryed about bring something away with me.Not looking to catch any bugs if you know want I mean.

I have always like asian girls.Dated one for a year and she always turn me on.To bad I was here and her in Japan.So I'm looking to try the asian apartments anyone have any advise for me.Look on cad but never know where they are.

Ralph

11-02-04, 16:26

Was throughRockford a couple of times in the past week.

First time through I wound up lucky fairly early on. Found a WSW named Jamie around the Pump Handle motel on 11th St. Siad she was 21 and her name was Jamie. Told me she was fairly new at this and was her first night in that area. She was afriad of getting busted in the more heavily trafficed stoll area and had been informed by several girls who wer older and less attractive than her that they always were getting picked up.She was actaully quite good looking and is a bit enough overweight to guess that she is not a crackhead- did not act like one either. Took her back to my hotel and she said could do anything I wanted for $20. Had a better time with her than most of my "real" girlfriends- acted as if she really enjoyed herself. She wanted a ride back to the regualr stroll area which I agreed to give her and en rout she asked to go through a fast food drive thrugh which i did, she offered to get me something sying she;ld pay- which in itself is kidn of weird. Had eaten before picking her up and opted just for a drink. She then suggested going back to my hotel and eating saying we could do it again no extra charge. So it was back to the hotel for some more fun. Asked her if I could get her pciture but she said that would cost $200 with her clothes on $500 if they wer not so did not wind up getting her one. After leaving the hotel a second tie I did manage to egt her phone number and made tenative plans to see her when I ws passing back thorugh town in a few days.

Right before dropping Jamie off not too far from the stroll area I saw what appeared to be a girl I had seen several times in 2003. She was one of the best SW I had ever picked up both looks wise and personality wise. I actaully wound up taking her up to Wisconsin Dells for a couple days over teh summer at no cost other than having to cover all the expenses (sort fo like a "real" girlfriend- although she did not want seperate rooms like the last "real" girlfriend I took on a trip. Had her phone number and last time I called last fall her mother said she had gotten married, tried it again during the winter and was told she had died- and asked when and was told "oh yesterday" her mom acted very unconcerned about her daighter's death so I figured she might not be dead. This theroy was sort of confirmed when i tried her again in the spring and was told she was not around since she was in hospital having a baby and her husband did not want other guys calling. But by the time I got around the block again she was gone, although I have no proof it was actually her. Crusied the area a few more times and did not see her.Did see a number of other girls out many who looked ufamilair but did not

Got back into Rockford a couple days latter and tried Jamie's phone number all I got was a message saying the cell customer was not in the area. Got this repeately- throughout the night- can count on one hand number of times a phone number I have gotten for a real good girl has turned out good. During this time did but more crusing, and it was much more dead than it had been earlier in the week.Wound up picking up a blonde WSW said her name was Xena- maybe a fake name? She had a good body and I had guessed her age at a bit mre than mine- mid 30's. She told me she worked mostly as a high priced escort and was used to getting $300 to $500 an hour. She acted somewhat annoyed that she was getting nowhere near that much on the street. Took her back to my room and had an OK time. After which she told me she was 50 years old. Would have never guessed since she looks real good for her age- ussually add a couple years to SW age to get what she looks like. This did kind of freak me out since she is only a year younger than my mother would be. When we were done she was in quite a hurry to get back to the stroll since she told me she was supposed to be meeting her next date real soon.

Was a bit freaked out about Xena's age and after dropping her off went to the late night Wal-Mart before heading back to the stroll area. Still unalble to reach Jamie by phone. Saw Xena again and a couple of black girls who I passed on. Also saw something which I had nver seen before an Oriental girl who was real good looking and almost looked like she was a SW. Drove by her a couple of times but she was not wanting to make eye contcat so figured she was not a SW and did not pursue her further. A bit later I did see her flag down another car which appeared to be cruising and get in so perhaps I was wrong. Saw nothing else out and decided to retre. Jamie;s phone was still down by the time I had to ehad out of town in the morning.

justaguy

11-03-04, 12:36

Visited PT this past Monday morning (Nov. 1). The construction is over, by the way, so things have returned to normal.

Saw Pink standing in the back door wringing out a towel when I got out of my car, and got my hopes up that she'd be available. I consider her service to be outstanding (worth the 1.6) and have had only good experiences with her -- also never made an appointment, just lucked out I guess, maybe because I usually come soon after opening in the morning.

Unfortunately, Pink was taken, and mamasan said she'd fix me up with "a nice new girl." The new girl was named "Nancy" and was cute with a nice figure and better than average English -- said she's been there a couple of weeks, I think.

I would give her performance a solid "C" -- it was the kind of AMP experience where the illusion that anything more than PTP is going on is really hard to maintain (yes, I know that nothing more than PTP ever is going on, but losing oneself to the illusion, or enjoying the girl's ability to make you feel good and relaxed in spite of that is part of what makes Pink, for example, so worthwhile). I suppose ymmv -- after all, it was Monday morning and for all I know she'd had a busy weekend. She didn't seem tired though, just not particularly good at the gfe thing.

Here's one thing that really bugs me, and "Nancy" was worse than most -- during the table shower she was so forceful between my legs that I about jumped off the table. When she stepped back and looked at me in alarm, I said something like "Whoa, more gentle please. Those aren't golf balls you're scrubbing there." I think the last bit went right past her, but she did say "sorry" and was gentle for about 10 seconds before spacing out and getting too aggressive again.

And it's not only "Nancy," though she's the worst I've encountered -- I'd say that most AMP girls are too rough when washing the family jewels. I have no reason to suppose that I'm more sensitive than the next guy (and I find their washing of the areas immediately above and below the jewels to be quite delightful), so what I chalk it up to is a simple mechanical, assembly line kind of consciousness. The haven't yet slipped into the role they adopt once they've got you scrubbed up and in the room, when they play that they're you're girlfriend for an hour.

Well, this is all coming out more negative than I'd intended, but I guess it was one of those AMP experiences that makes me question why I drive an hour to Rockford. Or makes me wish I'd checked here for fresh information before I did.

By the way, the circumstances of my computer access make me an extremely infrequent poster here (this is maybe my third on the whole forum), but let me just say that I appreciate the efforts of those who do post regularly and supply the rest of us with so much interesting and frequently amusing information.

GlobeRunner

11-04-04, 13:07

The manager, Coco, from Pine Tree and the manager, Chanel, from Paradise are merging and opening a new spa. The spas name will be "Coco Chanel". At the "Coco Chanel" you will leave smelling like a French *****. Hehehe!

Cougar68

11-04-04, 15:33

I made a run to Rockford yesterday and stopped in at Osaka. There appeared to be only one other car in the vicinity so I felt it was a safe bet that I wouldn't get the rush job. By the way as I cruised past Pine Tree there were at least four cars parked in front maybe still constuction workers but far too many vehicles for my liking. Anyway back to Osaka, I went in was greeted by mamasan I have not seen before as it has been 4 or 5 months since my last Osaka visit. Now right away a few things bothered me like as she led me to a room the adjecent rooms door was wide open and some ones clothes and jacket were laying out in plain view. Not cool! Secondly she gave me the usual were you from and have you been here before stuff and I told her I have been here quite a few times but not for several months. When she asked why I told her I have been going to Pine Tree lately she gave a snort and walked out of the room...not very pleasant.

After a few minutes of sitting I can hear another customer conversing in the hall right in front of my room now I have been to amp's many times and one of things I appreciate most is the fact that I rarely hear or see any other guys while I'm there and I like that. Anyway another minute and mamsan comes in and takes me to meet Mimi she is very cute long brown hair small build. Sauna 1st then TS was nice. Back to the room for a very average massage all the while using a towel to cover the areas she was massaging. That's the first time I have had protected massage! After about ten minutes of massage she simply stops and puts out her hand looking at me. I take her hand and shake it she grins and says no no you pay now. Really? no _hit Sherlock. I proceed to hand her 1.2 she says no 1.6 so up and back we go which I hate and finally I say that's all I have I'm broke. So she says ok. The main event was nice not much interaction so I would score her a 6 based mostly on looks not performance. Overall score for Osaka 5...compared to visits earlier in the year Osaka's business seems to have picked up the bell went off at least 3 times while I was there, hint to management start keeping 3 to 4 girls available.

Can Show You

11-04-04, 16:49

Hey all,

Went to Paradise this week, before noon visit. Was greeted by older mamasan, wasnt same as my last visit. I wont play guess the Koreans age, ill loose at that. This one was over 50 and the other wasnt... Asked for Jenny. Got a look. Was asked when i last visited. thought it was 4-6 weeks ago, said I saw June. Another quizzical look. Was told June moved to NY and hasnt been here in a month and a half.... More quizzical look. All that seemed to add up for me, but whatever. So, down to "house choice" and the randon girl generator came up with Sunny. I will spare many details on personals since thats been covered often and better than i can.
Was nice potential on top, was encouraged by that.

That soon changed. Felt like i was being checked-out. Sauna was long and not turned on for 5 min. I was quiet and made many smiles as needed. Ts was clean, no extra attention anywhere. Massage just average. On the flip, coughed up .6. Didnt want FS, thats not my bag. Have thought maybe on that before, but the enticement was about none. All mechcanical. Little or no tease. Just buisness. Long delay while .6 was dropped into some magical spider hole someplace. Im thinking something had to clear customs, due to the delay.... Lotion, motion, got a pop (we/self assist). Dont get me wrong, when it comes down to it, thats cool with me, but was very mechanical. I cant recall when the last 3-handed event i had did NOT get some copliment my way, and thats what i enjoy. Never got to view nor touch the upper story, and asked very politley and paid plenty of compliments consistantly... Normally ( just my experience) the upper floor is a room with a view during these things. Summary: TS 6. Mssg 7, finish 6. As i have read YMMV, but i just didnt see the spark id like. Said so little dont know if i could have spooked any one?
since i have been so blatant with my likes, any one who knows of a specialist in my area, let me know, send me an IM, or post here if others can use that knowledge.

Thanks all!

Ci-Traveler

11-05-04, 13:08

RealFun

11-05-04, 15:41

A second visit with Mimi at Osaka was unimpressive. She seemed tired. There's one other girl there, I didn't see her.

I arrived at Paradise and got to meet all three girls in the hallway. I was talking with the mamasan at the kitchen door and I got to chat for a few minutes with each of them as they were coming and going.

Ruby had worked at Sakura for a short time over a year ago. Not the best looker, but very enthusiastic and genuine, very poor english but a bubbly personality. Since I knew her and she greeted me like a long lost friend, she was my second choice.

My third choice, Sunny also isn't all that hot looking and she seemed to have kind of an attitude. She seemed like she didn't want to be there, didn't care to meet me. But yet she seemed to want to force a "nice" attitude. Yuck. I was very disappointed when I ended up with her since the other girls were already taking care of someone else.

After a decent ts, I didn't even tip upfront and just asked for a massage just in case I wanted to skate on out. Things got real warmed up during a massage that was about one should expect. Nothing special, but she was doing her best. In the end the session rocked. I walked out very happy and tipped 20 on the back end after giving an upfront tip of 120. Despite it being close to closing time, she never rushed me at all. It seemed as if it wasn't a forced effort to not rush me (some girls get into that "I'm not rushing you, take your time, but can ya kinda hurry up?" mode). Despite her average looks, I'm inclined to want to see her again.

My first choice would have been Hannah. She seems to have the mind of a 50 y.o. amp vet in a 28 y.o. body. Nice shapley legs, cute smiling eyes. Pretty face, nice tan. She is very friendly and gracious. She seems very much in control. I could easily see her running her own amp tomorrow if she had the opportunity.

If anyone wants to get her a gift she says she's been looking at cars. Just about any Honda or Toyota sporty midsize car will do. Black if possible, not new but no more than 20k miles.

GlobeRunner

11-05-04, 18:11

Just got back from a lunch break @ Osaka. Wanted to see Monica but she is gone for good. Then I opted for Sunny and she is gone for good. Mamasam gave me Mimi. She seemed depressed and tired. She didn't want to hold any conversation, which I like to do to see if a girl is into you or not. If a girl is into you than the negotiaton process for FS is a breeze. TS was terrible. She barley touched me. I wanted massage before the real session began. She insisted dinero 1st for real action then massage after. So I gave her a C-Note. She wanted a Jackson extra and said that was the going rate. I told her I only had a Franklin and she accepted with some haggling, but she never got nasty just seemed a little disappointed. Can't complain that she only wanted 120 tip. Most places and girls try for 160 tip. I guess if you haggle low with 100 is a good starting point. I don't care if I tipped an extra 20 even 40 if the girl is special but why should I if she would accept 100. The session was unrused. Many positions with 69 DATY. I wanted to make her squirt but she didn't want to that was a neagative. It showed she didn't care if I was there or not. But as soon as I almost made her pop she was enthusiastic, but I exploded just before I could of made her beg for more. All in all Mimi is an 8 in looks in the face. Natural small breasts. Body a 7. Her body was not as slender as I like, but she isn't fat at all. Her bush isn't shaved. She's 5'4" mid 20's. I won't be seeing her again. She wasn't a good lay. You have to do all the work.

Also before I left Mimi brought the other girl named, Hannah, into the room while I was dressing and introduced us. She brought her in the room to specify that she only accepts 120 tip and so does Mimi the next session. Whatever I always pay 100 tip at Osaka and never had a problem with any girls or Mamasam. Hannah was odd looking in the face. 5'5" mid 20's. Nice body with enhanced tatas that was proportionate to her body. I personally wouldn't go back to visit Hannah. She wasn't my taste, but she was still good looking if I met her at a bar. I just wouldn't pay for it. Hannah seemed real innocent and genuinally nice.

I called Pine Tree. They said 5 girls are working. 2 of which i've been with are still there. Gina and Pink. The other 3 girls are new to me.

Ken Blue Eyes

11-05-04, 19:25

As luck would have it, I also saw Mimi in my first visit to Osaka. She did seem tired, although she warmed up during the session. Service was good in a number of respects, but I think it comes down to a different strokes to different folks kind of thing. I kind of liked the light finger massage, which seemed pretty erotic to me as a warm-up to the main event, which was unrushed if not particularly energetic. I liked the girl, although it would seem she needs a good night's sleep or a break or something. She seemed more genuine my last provider.

The thing that impressed me most about my first visit to Osaka was the mamasan. She took me by the hand and immediately made me feel at home. She also checked to see how things went after the session was over. And the Saturn dealer style of pricing suits me fine. I'd rather not have to pay a bunch up-front and leave the $20 tip than waste energy bargaining. I got a big hug and genuine smile at the bonus tip, which was more emotion that I was catching at Paradise.

They need to do something about the heat though. Who needs a sauna when the room is about 120 degrees. *grin*

Ken

Jr Mint

11-06-04, 02:24

Seems like the morality police are ramping up for the February elections. According to the Register-Star the newest proposal is a web site where they will post the name and photos of men picked up on prostitution busts. The hold-up seems to be is the city isn't sure if it should include everyone that is busted on the charge, or only those convicted. It seems they think they might be in some trouble if they post a name and photo and then the accused is found innocent. I believe this article is in the November 1st edition.

Then in the November 5th edition there is an editorial calling for more severe punishment of those convicted of prostitution related offenses. I'd post the links but I'm not sure what the rules here allow. If you go to the newspaper website you shouldn't have any problems finding the articles. Just do a search on prostitution.

Do the folks that "run" Rockford, the business, government and media leaders look around the city and honestly think to themselves if only the prostitution would go away then everything would be perfect here? They ran two of the lingerie shops out of town, I thought life would improve tenfold after they were gone? I'm sure when these new massage parlor rules go in effect that will get rid of all the crime in town and make people feel safe in their homes! I'm sure business leaders are just waiting for all of these new rules to become official and they'll all come running back to open new companies that will employ thousands!

RealFun

11-06-04, 02:51

I wanted to make her squirt but she didn't want to that was a neagative.
Liebermann, do you mind explaining that comment a little more? I'm curious, do you mean you were trying to get her to squirt, as in a "squirter", like female ejaculation?

Great report btw.

Recently I've seen a couple comments about the large proportion of amp reports, and the length of mine, etc. I am glad we will soon be able to have seperate threads. I'll admit that many of my posts go way too long. But if you don't like them you can skim over them looking for useful data or ignore them all together. I do occasionally receive pm's that comment about things I've said, ask more questions, and thank me for posting.

There's a couple things you sw guys gotta realize. When you do the sw thing, its a hunt, and you're lucky to take what you can get. You need just enough description of a girl for someone else to recognize her on the street. Someone isn't going to decide whether or not to hook up with a certain girl based on the accuracy of your description.

At an AMP, in depth specifics about her whole bod are more of an issue. You'll be spending more time with her up close and naked, and also spending more money.

On the street you go out and take what you find, if anything. When you go to an AMP the question isn't "if" but "who?" With over a dozen ladies available anytime between 9am-midnight and half a dozen available until 2-3 am, you always have a selection.

On the street you better grab her quick if you even think you might like her, if not she's gone for good. Unfortunately, the AMPs aren't as much of an improvement over this situation, at least not as much as you might think. Unless you are willing to spend inordinate amounts of time and hassles with the girls and mamasans. They don't like to give a line up.

You can maybe get it if you really fight for it, but usually only after you pay the house fee. Which will be refundable if you don't like the looks of the girls, but they really run you through the ringer. Chances are some or all of the girls are working anyways, so you have to wait to see them, etc. Then if you don't like any of them, all that time was wasted. So you go start over somewhere else and if the second amp is worse you go back to number one.

So I think its a huge benefit to have decent in-depth descriptions of the girls. Its just one way that sw mongers differ from amp mongers. We want the whole thing to go smooth. Show up, ask for a specific girl, drop 160 and walk out happy. No laps around the city, no false starts, minimal haggling, no drama, etc.

I can shorten up my marathon posts a bit and yes that will help. But I can't help it if there's still proportionately more amp discussion than sw discussion.

To Ci-Traveler - those overpaid workers are people, too. And separeated from their families, so their birthdays and christmases come and go they don't get presents. For years on end they learn to take it for granted that they just don't gifts. So when they do, it really makes their day.

If you insist on being completely pragmatic about it, well you should know that $8-$15 worth of stockings or a thong will get you about $30 worth of better service.

Something I haven't mentioned in a long time and bears repeating is how much better service you'll get at a location if you voluntarily tip the mamasan an extra $20. There are some conditions on that move. Its best if you are or expect to be a regular at that spa; make sure she's someone that will be around for a while, at least a few weeks; make sure you tip the right person; catch her in the right mood to do it (its not a guarantee that she'll take it in the right way if she's distracted or stressed out).

When it goes right, that $20 can get you $60 or more in upgrades and special treatments. Not always real tangible, but you will notice a difference. You get the most bang for your buck when you do that move at Tokyo. Next best place would be Osaka, then Paradise. I wouldn't even do it at Pine Tree or Royal.

See how much different this is than hunting sws? Its like comparing apples to oranges... or, more accurately, chicken to bulgogi.

RealFun

11-06-04, 03:08

Ralph - great report man! Finally, getting some information that is useful instead of all the AMP stuff over, and over, and over, and over, and over........

Always nice to hear some details about AMP ladies - but when it comes to things like presents to purchase, what kind of whiskey to supply an already overpaid working girl...........geez.

Planning a trip to Rockford (not going to make use of the AMPs thank you) and this information via Ralph was very helpful. Thanks!

ci-traveler

I'll agree that was an excellent report by Ralph.

What's the deal with "all the AMP stuff over, and over, and over..."? Except for an occasionally long post that tells an entirely personal story, I think that most of the AMP discussion isn't repetitive. Dude, why don't you do a count of how many DIFFERENT and new providers I give accurate and complete descriptions of, and then count how many you've done. Just in the Rockford section. I wouldn't be surprised if the ratio is well over 100:1.

The 'net has no shortage of discussion forums where conflict and negativity rule the day. Why bring that shit over here? Just chill.

BTW, time for 100% honesty. I was hoping to personally benefit from the whisky recommendation. I can't find Elijah Craig 18 y.o. in Madison. I knew that if someone gave Jenny a bottle that I'd at least be able to try it. If anyone knows where I can get it let me know.

One last thing, Ci-Traveler - if your reports, be they about sw's, escorts, amps whatever - ever become as frequent or as long as mine and stick to providing info that at least a few others find useful (even if its nothing I need) then I promise not to ***** about it.

Hang in there, non-AMP guys. We are so close to having a separate AMP thread and you'll never have to see one of my posts ever again.

RealFun

11-06-04, 03:50

I'm struggling to resist the urge, but alas, I must give in.

I originally took the girl a bottle of whiskey because I had left my flask at home and stopped and picked up a new bottle on the way. I intended to ask the mamasan if it would be OK for her to keep it in the kitchen for me, so I could get a glass whenever I come there. She put the kabash on that idea real quick.

(To my detractors: now, who in the hell else besides me would have even tried such a thing? Wouldn't that have been cool if I had succeeded? Someone's gotta walk point on these fresh ideas).

Mamasan didn't even want me to open it. Reluctantly she agreed, it was almost closing time and I already had it in the building. Jenny said she likes whiskey... and she's saying it in a way like she's trying to impress on me that she ENJOYS whisky. I'm skeptical, thinking she probably likes whisky and coke. "But I usually don't drink it straight..." she says. In my skeptical mind I say to myself, "no shit." She continues, "...I usually have a Manhattan or with club soda." Now I'm inclined to be mildly impressed, at least she picks two drinks where the unique flavor of a whiskey can come through.

As I open the bottle its pretty obvious that there won't be any mixing going on. Not even water or ice, just a coffee cup filled with air. Its my first time trying this brand. I sample it first. A bit warm at first but not quite a burn, and it diminishes quickly enough anyways. There weren't any strong distinct flavors I could pick out right away. No wood or smoke or sweetness. It seemed very middle of the road. Medium robustness, but again, no distinct flavors stood out.

She had no trouble sipping it straight. I could see her reaction to that initial burn and a hint of skepticism flashed across her face. Not too surprising because, as I said, it seems hot and then suddenly its not. "Smooth," she says, "not bad." I could tell she was partly being honest, partly being polite. As we both continued to sip and chat, she and I seemed to be in sync. The stuff isn't bad for sipping 94 proof undiluted. Yet neither of us were overly impressed. The flavor was there yet kind of plain. Part of the problem was that when the heat cooled the flavor went away too. There was no aftertaste, it almost seemed dry. There was only an instant of good flavor after the burn and then nothing.

I had a cup of water she had handed me in the sauna. I poured a little bit of that in just to see if it would tone down that initial heat just a little. It did. But it also did something else. It really opened up all the other flavors. She seemed to be done with it. I told her it tastes better with the water in it. She seemed content with what she had already drank, and by implication, sticking to her claims that she prefers her whiskey with at least a little bit of a mixer. I didn't have a problem with that.

A few minutes later she took it upon herself to take walk over to the cup to take another drink. She seemed to recognize that although the situation is less than ideal for her, she simply wanted another drink. I think the improvement that a touch of water made actually startled her. She had set down the cup and taken two steps back towards the table when it seemed to hit her... "Wow," she says, "you're right. That is much better with the water." She went back for another sip just to confirm what she had just experienced.

For the rest of the session she kept returning for another sip. I could actually see the process taking place, of her acquiring a taste for whiskey without any mixer. I didn't know that would happen. Before I arrived, she had no idea that she was going to be exposed to a new way of enjoying liquor. That and our discussions of Mingus and Monk and reggae and punk made the session worth way more than any money I laid down.

Say what you want about them being already overpaid and me being overplayed. For 90 minutes we weren't provider/client. We were just two people making the best of an already good situation. Its these rare sessions that make all the bad ones worthwhile.

GlobeRunner

11-06-04, 15:41

realfun,

About me wanting Mimi @ Osaka to squirt. I wanted her to cum. Not female ejaculaton, Gross!

BJ Daty

11-07-04, 01:07

I would just like to take a momment to thank all the long winded posters on this board. I cannot visit the amps often I am an over the road trucker and do not make enough money to go to the amps. I do get a few sw on the road and at the truck stops but they are usually just intrested in doing the dead fast and on to the next truck.

My point is that although I have only had a few amp experiances I have lived out the act several times vicariously through Real Fun Liberman And David Jonh to name a few.

I was going to go to a place in Rosel and spend $300 in a jack shak till I found this sight. So you folks saved me good money and time. I always make reports on my exploits and try to give a blow by blow discription. Please lets not forget what this forum is about. More bang for my *uck buck.

Somtimes I think Real is off his bean but his facts always pan out to be true.
Osaka rules

TheShadow2

11-07-04, 21:01

Real Fun,
Found the whiskey online pretty easily. Here is one site that sells it:
http://www.klwines.com/product.asp?sku=1005102
Keep up the good work, both with the gals and with the reporting. Seems you're the only one who is right now...

Ci-Traveler,
Got to agree with Real Fun on this one. You're the man in your own right, you've given me and WSG plenty of good info on Bloomington, etc.
Not flaming here.
But...
If you feel that way about his reports, just don't read em. No need to slam the guy, he provides a lot of info that others find useful.

Can Show You

11-08-04, 09:59

Went to paradise last week, a before noon visit. Asked for Jenny, was told she is gone, to N.Y. I was asked how recent i had been there. Told older mamasan i was there about 5-6 weeks ago. Was told Jenny left month and a half ago and given funny look. The gal I mentioned June wasnt there any more either. Mamasan said I have new girls. She sent in Sunny.

Sat in suana five minutes before it was even turned on, TS was mechanical. Massage also mechanical. Flip, question, said I prefer HJ, thats what i like. Was given look like, geeze guy. LOng trip to secret bank some place. Really long. Nothing like a wait to get ya going! HJ was just that, no views given. Had to assist, normally i get compliments when 3 hands are used, she didnt pick up on that, and i like that.
TS was 6, mssg 6, and finish 6. Suspect ymmv, has nice potential on top but wasnt allowed to see or more. Was second so-so visit to Paradise. I think next visit is PT or exec. Ive asked this before, any one know of a place that HJ is really good, with GFE? thats what i like. I dont get responses, maybe since i am new here. Wrote this review last week and it never appeared, so this is a resubmission.

Thanks guys, would like your feed back. great posts recently.

RealFun

11-10-04, 02:24

Thanks, Shadow.

Sunny is back at Osaka and Mimi is still there. The third girl mentioned by Liebermann is gone already. Drat, I went there to try her out and left empty handed. I saw Sunny in the hall and man did she look hot. But she was busy and I wanted to keep moving.

Sometimes I feel funny when I post for guys to pm me for an inside tip. Its usually not really anything earth shattering. Sometimes it turns out to be obsolete by the time I can reply to the pm's. And in the last case with the whisky idea it was just lame and not thought through.

Anyways, I usually keep certain info on a pm-only basis because I'd rather not post publicly for a variety of reasons. Its not always because I think its such a hot piece of advice that it needs to be kept a closely guarded secret. And so it is with the next "secret" tip I have.

Its nothing major, just a recommendation for a girl that I believe will provide a nice time. Of course ymmv always applies, but I have a good feeling about this girl that she won't disappoint. She seems really on the ball and focused, with a quick, clear, sharp mind. Very energetic and motivated, she'll work hard without coming on too strong. Very responsive and accomodating, she'll try to customize the session to your desires.

Good english skills, nice conversationalist and an upbeat, sweet disposition. She's one of those types that in the first few seconds of meeting her you're sure things will work out. She's got the routine down and is very comfortable, which will in turn make you more comfortable. She's no spring chicken, but I'm pretty sure she's at or just below 30.

She's cute and has a nice figure.

True, I haven't seen every single AMP girl that is currently available at the moment. But of all the ones I've seen, the above mentioned girl gets my first recommendation. But I do have to maintain that Sunny is still an excellent choice, either tied for first or a close second.

Hope this helps.

Vazooli

11-10-04, 12:20

Was driving through Rockford on business last night so I had a chance to try Paradise for the first time. I saw Hannah (pronounced Hawna) and she is the best looking AMP chick I've seen in a long time! Late 20's, nice tan, very cute face, good attitude (but a tough negotiator), GORGEOUS legs, nice butt, flat belly and beautiful round breasts with big nips. Nicely shaved pubes. She is a dream girl. A very nice change from what I usally see in Mt Prospect.

Very sensous TS, but her massage was just so-so. I was only looking for HS and offered .40 as she wanted the tip upfront. Hannah told me that 1.00 was the minimum for anything. I replied that she could have .60 if she took off all her clothes, and she came back with .80, saying that .80 was the lowest for "au natural." By that time my little head was getting over-anxious and he made me end the negotiations and get on with it!

The sight of her was worth it. She gave me free access and stood over my face to give me a good look. I couldn't resist some light DATY, it looked so good.

She continued the massage afterward and kept on asking if she was "good" and if I was happy, and if she was a "good girl." I wasn't sure what was going on until, when she escorted me out, she said something to mamasan in Korean and she made a point to look at me. It seemed she wanted to see if I had a smile on my face, if I was satisfied. And Hannah wanted to make sure that mamasan saw that I had had a good time. It may be that Hanna has her ups and downs and so YMMV.

RealFun: Thanks for the advice. Paradise is a good spot. If you have a chance to see "Hawna," I would definitely go for it. What a beauty!

-Vazooli

Cellman

11-10-04, 14:35

I've been reading all the information that all of you have been posting here.I think I'll take a break for the escorts and try the AMPS or the asian apartment.I have a beef with the GFE thing they are getting to cost to much to see these days.Also I have a question for all of you,have you heard of epididymitis or have you had it?

El Ricardo

11-10-04, 15:53

I made the trip to Rockford yesterday, and was going to give Osaka a try (after reading this about the enthusiasm on this board,) but couldn't find it! I just tried scrolling back through the Rockford section of this Forum but couldn't find an address here either. I'm sure somebody, like RealFun, just went to the effort of publishing an extensive listing of all the AMPS in Rockford, but I couldn't find it! I'll search it further when I have more time.

In the meantime, I decided to go over to Tokyo instead, but ran into the new mamasan there, and she was really a downer for me in creating a lousy atmosphere. To top it off, she sent in Yoko after I specifically told her I had seen her the last time (I was trying to let her know that I wasn't interested in a repeat performance, but she just didn't get it!) So I did a massage deal only with Yoko and left (I needed one anyway.)

So from there, I decided to give Paradise a try again after a long absence, and ran into a much more pleasant experience. Much better experience! Total was 180 (house and tip) for total (FS.) She said she's been there for a week. She has a nice body, pleasant face, good conversational skills, and seemed pretty open. I found her to be a GFE, and wouldn't hesitate to repeat with her or recommend her to others.
Have fun, stay safe

RealFun

11-11-04, 03:51

Two ways to get there. Going down State St from the freeway go past Paradise, past Rainbow, the last major intersection is Alpine and State, there's a car dealership on the right. Get into the left lane, wave to Coco at Pine Tree and watch on your left for a big Karate sign. Pull into that lot.

As you face that building, to your left is a driveway that goes between the karate place and some office building. Go between there, down hill, to the end of the parking lot and when you can, turn right. In front of you is a bowling alley/bar. To your right is the building with Osaka.

Another way to go is to pass up the karate place and turn left into the lot for the bowling alley, then double back towards the karate place and you'll run into Osaka.

Great report, ER. Glad to see someone's still trying out Tokyo. I need to go there soon. And check your pm inbox.

Ci-Traveler

11-11-04, 11:11

I'll agree that was an excellent report by Ralph.
Just chill.

One last thing, Ci-Traveler - if your reports, be they about sw's, escorts, amps whatever - ever become as frequent or as long as mine and stick to providing info that at least a few others find useful (even if its nothing I need) then I promise not to ***** about it.

Real Fun - me thinketh you needeth to taketh your own adviceth. Chilleth.

ci-traveler

Ci-Traveler

11-11-04, 11:19

Real Fun,
Not flaming here.
But...
If you feel that way about his reports, just don't read em. No need to slam the guy, he provides a lot of info that others find useful.

Shadow -

I don't think you're flaming.

I think Real Fun is pouting cuz he got all bent out of shape on the Milwaukee board and it is somehow carrying over here. I just gave my opinion that I was tired of AMP posts - that's all. You guys can do what you want, but I see no point in spending $15-28 on a bottle of whiskey for an AMP girl - unless I can save $20 or $40 off of the regular 1.2 or 1. price beyond the door fee. And since that AINT going to happen, the point is moot. Small gifts - ok - but many of us have already done that - it's kind of a personal thing. I certainly wouldn't want an AMP girl to EXPECT a gift on top of a tip. Kind of like jacking the price up.......inflation! That was MY point.

But - I agree that RF has posted plenty of useful info - and some of it has been used by me.

ci-traveler

RealFun

11-12-04, 04:49

$12 worth of cd will get you $20-$40 worth of upgraded service, she will be very appreciative.

Ci-Traveler - I know its hard to express tone and attitude in writing sometimes. I'm chilled out, dude. No hard feelings. I don't pout. But I had to say something, there's been more than one reference made recently to the heavy proportion of AMP reports to other types of action.

For my part I can cut down on my personal journal type entries and stick to useful data. But even then it looks like there will still be more AMP reports than sw reports. I can only help on one side of the equation. And anyways it will all be a moot point soon enough.

About gifts. It started when I'd spend $8-15 on a one article of clothing that I liked and wanted to see the girl in. To me, it was worth the price even if I only saw it on her once, but I usually enjoyed it a few times.

Gradually I started getting gifts ranging from street clothes to CDs to booze to more expensive lingerie. This may seem a bit extreme, but for the most part, I've gotten much more value back in appreciation for gifts. I'm pretty sure by now everyone here knows that I NEVER tip more than 120 upfront, but that its also not uncommon for me to tip 20 more when we're done. So I can show her my appreciation by giving her $20 after the session, or I can buy her a gift and bring it to the next session. Fun for her, cheap for me.

Ci-Traveler, everyone hobbies a little differently. I don't approach AMPs with the same attitude as street action. Of course there's some cross over and some similarities, etc, but it is totally different. And remember, I've been going to these same places for years now and the regular mamasans know me pretty well.

If I traveled to a different city and went into an AMP for the very first time I won't walk in with a bucket of bulgogi, champagne and a $100 gift box from Victoria's Secret. I'd be just another customer that they dont' know. But in Rockford, I get VIP treatment wherever I go.

Basically, its just hard to get petty and put a price tag on every little thing and get bogged down in a tit-for-tat haggling session. Next time you like a girl ask her what her favorite ice cream is. Then spend $5 and bring her some on your next visit. She'll treat you better than if she had successfully haggled an extra $20 onto the tip.

These girls don't get gifts from anyone. Birthdays and christmas (or Buddha's birthday, whatever...) come and go and they are away from family and friends. They don't get gifts. They don't EXPECT gifts at all, from anyone. Which is why even the smallest token gifts go a looooong way with them. And that's MY point. This absolutely CANNOT lead to an inflation situation. If you become a regular to the AMP scene and refuse to buy gifts you're missing out on an opportunity for great value.

$5 of ice cream gets you $20 worth of upgraded service. $12-$14 worth of cd gets you $20-40 worth. $36 worth of booze will get you a hearty thank you from me after I get to share a glass of it with her.
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Kay at Osaka is very thin and top heavy, I don't have to tell you they're fake... but look pretty damn good anyways. Service was nothing special. You won't be disappointed but I wasn't too impressed with her at all. She said there was one other girl working there but didn't know her name. I have a funny feeling that Kay is actually the only one working there now, I think Sunny and Mimi are gone.

There's also a new mamasan now. I liked Kim, the previous one, better. She seemed more sensible and more like a straight shooter. The new one seems ill-suited for being in charge. I think ideally the new one and Kim would make a great team. Kim could eye up and greet the customers and manage things while the new one took care of the girls. Just my gut feeling on the matter. Supposedly Kim will be coming back soon. I think things run smoother when she's there. Jun is still in there occasionally but I don't even know what her function is.

I don't think now is a good time to get a straight answer from Osaka on the phone. I don't mean this in an egotistical way, but if even I can't get a straight answer from them about who's working, who's leaving or coming back, etc, then no one else will, either. So if you call ahead to see if Sunny is working and they say yes, don't be surprised if you get there and find out Sunny isn't available. I hate that crap but that's just how it goes with AMPs, they'll say anything on the phone just to get you in the door.

Paradise doesn't need to be telling any lies at the moment, because the truth will make you want to go, anyways. Ruby is gone, no biggie there. That leaves Sunny and Cece and Hannah. Sunny is OK looking, but there's something about her expressions that rubbed me the wrong way the first time I saw her. It was late and I didn't have a choice so I gave her a shot. I don't like to judge people too much on looks, but she just projects an awkward attitude. But I was open minded and gave her a chance.

Am I ever glad I did. The first time went so good that on my next visit she was my first choice, even over Hannah. My second visit with Sunny confirmed what I learned about her on my first. If you take your time and treat her seductively, she's a total horndog. Leave the "gel" (lube) on the table, it won't be needed. And she has bulbous full C-cups, all natural, with small smooth pale pink nipples.

El Ricardo was right to rave about Hannah. She rocks. If you get the full line up there she'd most likely be your first choice.

Only got a look at Cece. Pretty much average/cute, medium build.

I've been bouncing back and forth between Osaka and Paradise. For a while there, Osaka was on a roll. Great management and decent enough girls. Now they seem on a downhill slide with mgt that's distracted and not cracking the whip. The paradise mamasan doesn't need to crack the whip, I think the girls just naturally respect her. I can't help but get the feeling that Hannah also has something to do with the smooth running of Paradise lately. With Chanel gone, it seems that Hannah has stepped up and filled that role. She seems very sharp, quick, driven, confident.

Whatever it is, you can sense a different vibe in Paradise. And at least at Paradise, if things get a little busy, there are 3 girls to handle things.

Hope this helps.

BigDave

11-13-04, 07:56

I was in Rockford Monday and drove up and down all the known strolls. This was around noon or so. Only 1 wsw out, would rate at best a 3 so not my thing, this time anyways. So I visited The Exclusive and for 60 entry fee and 1 bill had a great session with Serena. Beautiful rack, extremely responsive nips! Started with 60 for cbj and finished her off with fs for the additional 40. Give her a go fellas, definately $ well spent! Was just wondering if Chantilly girls are offering the same prices cause I hear they are even younger, not that Exclusive girls are very old. Would love to find out. Any info would be appreciated.

Stay safe Guys,

Dave

GlobeRunner

11-13-04, 22:18

I called and Mamasam Kim said Sunny was working and 3 girls were available. I arrived and Sunny was on vacation and only 2 girls were available. Monica, Sunny, Hannah, & Mimi are all gone. The 2 girls working are Amy and Kay. Didn't have a chance to see Amy she was busy doing her duty. Amy did peak in at me when I was in the steam room, but I didn't get a good look at her. I had a session with Kay and Kay doesn't disappoint. Kay only pleases. Kay is 27, 5'7", petite knock out body, Enhanced top section, pretty face, great great great attitude. TS was OK, she did concentrate on the little guy just fine. Went to the room and I gave her a C-Note and asked for massage after FS. She took the dinero without even looking at it and left. When she came back she never mentioned she wanted 20 more. DATY to the extreme. Lots of finger play. My session lasted long and she never rushed me. 4 positions and I finished off with HJ and on her tattas. I even had her convinced to take it Greek style. She lubed me and her up. As soon as I put one finger to warm her up in the back door. It was too tight. So there was no way I was going to get the little guy in there. It was cool that she said yes to Greek even though she said she never did that before. I believe her since she's so tight and tiny. Anyway great session for a total 140 including house fee. No haggling just great time spent with a great gal. Real GFE. I had no time for massage afterwards because I went over the time limit. Kay said she will be there for 1 month.

I highly recommend Osaka. I've been there many times and never paid over 140 total for FS and never had any girl complain or haggle. Kim the mamasam is really nice and doesn't seem fake like Coco from PT.

I planed on having 2 sessions. But after my session with Kay I had no more energy for a second round. I hope to see what Amy looks like maybe next week.

RealFun

11-14-04, 01:58

Nice report, Liebermann. Sounds like you had better luck with Kay than I did. BTW, as far as I know, mamasan Kim is gone. Unless its another mamasan with the same name which is entirely possible. The Kim that I've been making reference to also goes by the name Kimberly, so maybe I should call her that to make a distinction. Kimberly is about 40 and has nice full lips, is med ht and med build.

Jun hangs around there sometimes, she's about 50 and petite, usually wears kakhi shorts and gets a bit flirty. There's another one that's rarely there, she used to hang out at Sakura. I've heard her use a couple different names, maybe that's who you saw if she was giving out the name Kim. She's also 50ish, kinda small, usually carries a tiny yap dog with her.

Just curious if you mentioned that you're an active member of a discussion board. I wonder if that had any bearing on the excellent service and price.

I'm glad you got the low down on the line up there. The manager that left recently, Kimberly, was straight with me on the phone. Maybe just because she knew me as a return customer. But even though Jun and yap-dog-lady both know me, too, they still give me the runaround on the phone. Normally I'd be inclined to NOT reward an establishment that has to jerk me around on the phone, especially since the Paradise mamasan is straight with me on the phone.

But I gotta admit... after reading the report you posted about your experience with Kay, I'm inclined to say to hell with my "principles" and try to get the same kind of action you got!!

RealFun

11-14-04, 02:51

I didn't want to edit my last post. In all fairness, I should admit that that last report by Liebermann was more than a "nice report"... It's fuckin' exceptional. In all reality,that's over-the-top excellence for rock bottom prices.

Despite the differences I've had with Liebermann in the past, I gotta give props to one outstanding session. If only they could all be like that... that last report gives us all something to strive for.

When I saw Kay, I may have been Kay's first customer for the day, she was probably pretty tired from the previous day's travels. I'm inclined to give her another chance. Liebermann, if you have any tips on how to coax that kind of performance from the girl, please share.

RealFun

11-14-04, 03:10

Sorry to keep coming back to back with new posts but I just discovered something.

With the board being worked on it seems some posts have been held up. I just scanned down the page and found a bunch of new posts that I hadn't seen before. Sometimes when I log on I just find my last report, assume nothing new is below it, and go up from there. Well, not true. So if you're reading this, there may be some older posts that just recently popped on.

First I wanted to thank Shadow for the link about the whiskey. I hadn't tried real hard to find it around town, beyond looking on shelves. I've been a little leery of ordering booze on line. I'm sure some sites are worthwhile with it, but I just don't know which ones. Also, luckily, I found out that a local liquor store can special order it at a fair price. But I definitely appreciate you taking the time to look for me. I've bookmarked that page for future investigation.

Thanks to Vazooli and Can Show You for the reports. Looks like things can always be hit or miss or ymmv or whatever. And BJ Daty is definitely right about me being off my bean too much of the time! Sometimes, during an AMP experience it can be difficult to realize fact from fantasy... I think this delusional aspect of AMP visits comes through in my posts. But I hope that the reader can discern the facts from my posts, better than I can have a handle on reality while I'm in the throes of a spa session!

Member #6131

11-14-04, 10:54

Here is another link Realfun and they are out of Chicago. They have a great reputation for their internet business as well as a great bricks and morter location.

http://www.samswine.com/homepage.asp

TheShadow2

11-14-04, 23:20

Nice report, sounds like true value was had. Makes me want to make the trip for that kind of experience...

Mac Man

11-15-04, 21:40

Based on some good info from both Real Fun and Lieberman I decided to break my habit of traveling to Belvedere and visiting The Executive, and AMPing, with Osaka high on the list. Hadn't been there since last Summer and I have to say, the service is still first rate. I had not met current Mamasan (Jun) but she was most cordial and though when I arrived late in the afternoon, all girls were busy, she made me feel comfortable and asked the I relax in the sauna. Normally I hate the fact the the mamasan has to act the a traffic controller on busy days, but Jun's smile and happy face made it somewhat more bearable. She told me to be patient, " Beautiful Girl coming soon. " The wait probably lasted 10 minutes. I was actually starting to sweat. Finally Amy opened the door and made the wait really worth while.

Excellent table shower, paying great attention to all the right areas and offering plenty of intermittent teasing. What's more, she was actually singing during the whole procedure. What a joy!

Back in the room, her massage technique was fabulous. up on the table sitting on my backside while massaging all the stress out of my back & neck. This was no rush job either. very slow and deliberate, then finally walking on my back to really sqeeze out the kinks.

Finally on the flip she gives me that giggle followed by a quizzical look, and asks " You want more? ". I went to my pants, pulled out a C note and handed it to her. She smiled and said " Be right back ".

Upon return I just marvelled at how firm and petite her body was. Began with a nice slow CBJ, followed by some CG (very tight and some great moves), then doggy and finally finished in MISH with her feet on my shoulders.

Absolutely fantastic. I only wish I could have gone on forever. but I knew I was liucky to hold out as long as I did. Gotta say, though, my biggest observation was the absolute lack of rush on her part. She was very into what she was doing and very eager to be liked.

Afterwards she cleaned me up, and got me a bottle of cold water for the ride home. Huggs and kisses at the door, too. And, here's the real kicker, after leaving, I'm probably 25 feet out in the parking lot headed for the car when Jun comes running out and gives me a big hug, saying " You come see again, OK? " Now THAT's a Mamasan!

I haven't visited the other AMPs in a long time, but I think they've all got a ways to go to beat the Osaka experience I had today.

And this one will keep me coming back. Thanks for the tips, Real Fun.

RealFun

11-16-04, 05:11

Amy at Osaka used to be Chanel at Sakura, Chanel at Paradise (no, not May the manager) and a long while back Mimi at Royal. Real skinny with real helium voice. Highly recommended. She's kinda different looking in the face, some will like her a lot (like me) some will think she's just pretty average. I know that mousy voice can be annoying to some, but I think its precious and unique in short doses... its not like you gotta live with her. Anyways, I think she may have gotten hassled about it. She used to really play it up with silly meow-meow gibberish and goofy grins. It was awesome, really, it was her trademark. Now she seems self-concious of it and tries to talk more normally and down-play the squeaky voice.

In any case, I highly recommend her service. Especially if you like to try to get her to enjoy it, she can be responsive to that.

Just for shits and giggles refer to her as Amy Sue and compliment her attire if she's wearing a black layered strapless dress. After you've done so, pm me and I'll tell you why.

Also, a second shot with Kay went a little better than the first. The first less than ideal session was probably due more to some management snafu's than Kay's fault. I think Osaka is hanging by a thread... IMHO... decent looking girls that give good service is supposedly all we're looking for. But I think there's a soft spot in mgt these days and its only a matter of time before things start to melt down. A wild guess, but I could be wrong.

I'm also a bit concerned about Paradise having Chanel gone for so long. The one older mamasan there always looks so exhausted. I think Hannah had stepped up and helped out a bit, but she's gone already. That Paradise mamasan seems to really command respect from the girls, but she can only do so much on her own. I expect Paradise to still run a tight ship and carry on with great attitudes, but that one mamasan is going to need some regular help soon. Paradise is just too busy for her to do it all herself.