The Rat Trap

[PaigeSweetStuf]

I appreciate the kind words. That is why I have taken a step back and am not feeding into this shit anymore. You are completely right Nikki and I are both sweet honest girls that do what they do well and just trying to get by in life.

Xoxo.

Paige.


Ladies,

Although I have not seen either of you yet although my dream of visiting with you 2 fine ladies will happen eventually. From what I have read here on this forum and the other board, Neither of you have to defend your reputation here as your sparkling reviews speak for themselves!

DW.

[PaigeSweetStuf]

The same thing all along!

Xoxo.


Maybe we should team up and blow their minds! Ya'll ready?

[PaigeSweetStuf]

I have had your back the whole time thru all of this. I didn't want to put your name out there until you were ready to speak up. It is true everyone knows who they are and what they do. Best thing now we have all said our piece is ignore. It drives the bat shit crazy crazier, and the fakeanova nothing to talk about if so.

I wish noone ill will. As you said nikki people reap what they sow and I have a feeling karma is going to be a super ***** to these shit stirring antagonizers!


Listen guys! & King Ass.

Paige is not who you should be attacking.

I am who meech fucked over. Yes you you sorry ass. And really I'm not worried about it anymore. You reap what you sow. I try my hardest to accommodate you gentlemen that treat me so well. But I have stayed silent long enough. We al know who you are. And we all know you aint shit. Enough said. The proof is in the pudding. Much love to the awesome men on this board. Camara 3 , buff. Ect. Thank you.

[AncientOne]

Or our sons taking your path. Man up bud. Saying that you have a house with so much square feet, cars, and all that stuff, makes you mr King and able to step on anyone who had it rougher? Really?

Guess then that you either live in a cloud of fantasy, one were your new moniker entitles you to come up with these inventive posts, or you are just fake. Yes fake as in the fake money that came from your wallet.

Your fault? I have been dealt fake money before, and found out the freaking hard way. Were you dealt fake money? It is a possibility, and you could have taken the high road and be honest about it, offer restitution, or talk with the provider. After all, anyone with the assets you claim to have could have simply posted a brief post, stating you did not know, and restitution paid. Easy, right?

Instead you seem to want to hide and defend it, instead of just coming out and saying it.

As I said previously, writing is like a fingerprint Meech. Take it to heart, and if you can, man up. That means get of that damned high horse, and do the right thing. Otherwise it is all bullshit.

I for one pequeno michito, don't care, the veil is lifted and all see you for who you are. Man up if you want, or stay the course.

Now to work, for my benjamins do not come out of a printer.And have nothing at all to add, how perfect and true it is! Time for KC Little Fucking Meech to go back to South America and stay out of our playground or at least shut the F*CK up about our playground.

[Captainv]

Hell yeah!


The same thing all along!

Xoxo.

[Member #4697]

(Shaking my head).

It's real sad that people live in their own heads. I remember telling Jersey girl years ago, getting involved in arguments with hobbyists will only end up 2 ways. They will ALL turn on you at the end of the day. I actually like Paige, but she is a classic case of only getting ahead because of lack of competition. It is sort of like being the tallest midget. I am not a fan of Savannah but there is no comparison in Savannah and Paige. LOL I have seen Savannah, even on an off day she blows paige out of the water. (Sigh) This is not a secret at all. From my understanding, begging guys to give you a reviews does not make you popular. I kind of feel bad for Paige. She didn't really need to get involved in the whole thing. King Casanova is a good guy. I don't know why cats are on a seek and destroy mission for Meech. Maybe, Meech bent over some of the hobbyists and gave them fake bills. Allegedly a ho said that Meech gave her fake bills. How she know the bills were fake, did management take her to Burger King and she couldn't get a whopper or something? Did the dope boys beat her cheeks because she bought her street medicine with the fake money. Lastly, I do recall cats were riding Meech's nuts when he came on the board. A couple of guys thought they were cool with a comb over, or they had the 1980's mullet and a fanny pack. For some cats, they were dying their hair because of Meech. Meech made them feel cool. I can understand that. I know you're hurt and angry. Listen you will be alright.

Drewbruski.Great post! You are correct my good man. I don't see how a provider getting in fights with their customers makes any business sense at all. And I agree about Paige. There are just enough pathetic guys mixed with ER soliciting reviews for her to have a small level of success. But 90%+ of the providers in this town are better than her on her best day. Unless your into girls that look like characters from Middle Earth.

And Nikki Nikki Nikki Nikki wouldn't know what real or fake money would look like, or a bank account or a credit score above 400.

Keep up the good work!

KC.

[Member #4697]

I have had your back the whole time thru all of this. I didn't want to put your name out there until you were ready to speak up. It is true everyone knows who they are and what they do. Best thing now we have all said our piece is ignore. It drives the bat shit crazy crazier, and the fakeanova nothing to talk about if so.

I wish noone ill will. As you said nikki people reap what they sow and I have a feeling karma is going to be a super ***** to these shit stirring antagonizers!I would love to not talk about this. As a matter of fact I didn't start talking about it. Your friends did and required me to defend myself. I won't say another word about it if nobody else does. So we shall see about that.

And hey. You two are doing a great job. I'm sure with all your sweetness and honesty you all will lead a long and fruitful life. And all of us that are due bad karma I'm sure we will lead horrible existences.

KC.

[Admin2]

I need more popcorn.

[BuffGuy111]

I'm so proud of you to Nikki Nikki (why two Nikki's? Because your the size of two women). You did a really brave thing by typing on a keyboard. You shouldn't get involved. I'm sure everyone was keeping your name out of it to protect you. You were just not smart enough to leave it alone. Now you opened yourself up to a bunch of stuff none of which can be good or help your business.

Anyway. I got no problem with you and have never seen you. I've heard you give a good service though if you are into big girls which I'm not. Same with your new duo partner Paige. I know Paige is a wrestling fan / groupie so you all my be better suited as a WWE tag team. None of those hot chicks in WWE could handle you two!

And Buffguy. I have no issue with you either. You were lied to and played as well. If you really look at the facts you can start to realize that as well. No big deal. You defend the girl that sucks your dick, that's fair, just don't attack a guy that you really know nothing about. But your learning slowly from other providers you have been talking to that not all is what it seems.

KC.Since you created this new handle not once have I used it in any of my post. You don't exist to me. When I posted to Nikki it was in reference to LFM. Somehow you had to stick your nose into my business. Maybe you are LFM, I don't know or care. What I do care about is you using my name in any post. Respect me by not mentioning me and I'll respect you.

Good day sir!

[Member #4697]

Since you created this new handle not once have I used it in any of my post. You don't exist to me. When I posted to Nikki it was in reference to LFM. Somehow you had to stick your nose into my business. Maybe you are LFM, I don't know or care. What I do care about is you using my name in any post. Respect me by not mentioning me and I'll respect you.

Good day sir!But when you crowned Nikki squared the greatest provider on earth and how proud you were it was in reference to me. The details regarding the money situation with Nikki are really dicey (new money, old money, large bills, small bills, all fake, fake wrapped in new, new wrapped in fake) I agree however you have been fairly silent on the matter recently and I've learned some things about you that lead me to believe your actually a stand up guy.

So I can stay out of your house if you stay out of mine.

KC.

[Nikki Nikki]

I'm done. I said all I will say. So your attempts to bad mouth me just shows how pathetic you really are. I'm going to be the classy lady that I am and go on about my business. Hope everyone has an AWESOME DAY! -Nikki Nikki.

[Lurkerdan]

I need more popcorn.You are a genius.

[LuvInIt007]

I would love to not talk about this. As a matter of fact I didn't start talking about it. Your friends did and required me to defend myself. I won't say another word about it if nobody else does. So we shall see about that.

And hey. You two are doing a great job. I'm sure with all your sweetness and honesty you all will lead a long and fruitful life. And all of us that are due bad karma I'm sure we will lead horrible existences.

KC.And now a WORD from our sponsor. Welcome this episode of rat trap we will be featuring how a2 makes the perfect popcorn to enjoy after our little dream break. While someone continues to stir the pot to keep the popcorn from burning. And just remember last post doesn't always win except in A2's case he always wins. Sometimes just better to hit the big red IGNORE button.

Now back to our irregular unpredictable episode of rat trap.

[Dvrein]

I think you are ALL fucking nuts.

[Sillyolman]

I bought some hip waders today and am back.

[TeddEBear]

I've seen a few ads recently that wanted to verify you with your user name and I will advise you that if you do reviews and agree to link yourself to your user name and uncle is on the receiving end. That's bad! Really bad! Think about it and use the big head.

TEB.

[SingleMoms]

Been off for a while and missed all the lead up to this, took me a while to read this thread from the start. Could someone do me a favor and post a guide to who is actually who, who believes who, who thinks who is full of shit, who is friends with who. It is hard to keep up with all the names. I will print the guide out and keep it beside me as I read this thread and update it as I go. Something tells me this is just getting started. It's like the first 10 minutes of a three hour movie. The best thing about all this is the suggestion of Paige and Nikki getting together (whether you like them or not, IT"S TWO CHICKS GETTING TOGETHER! I hope everyone has a productive weekend filled with love and peace.

[Camera3]

Your constant attack on Vino is way out of line. The gentleman may be many things, and many may have issue with him, but his intel and reviews are always spot on.

Now, I just spent two minutes of my life checking your reviews. Let's see, hmmmmmmmmmmm, oh, there is one from six weeks ago. There. There is a second. Now, maybe. No, that one doesn't count because you are commenting on someone else's review. Is that it? Two reviews?

So, let's see, your score is two and Vino is worth a million because he gives a shit about the integrity of his intel.

You pretty much continue to be a total waste of band width.

Just sayin'.

C3.

Point of information, this post you quoted was attacking Jag not Vino. Just trying to provide a scorecard.

A2


That smell has been lingering. The stench just started to be discovered.

Swag with the big balls out.

[BlackPrince]

Big girl panties don't work for you. Just focus on that bologna your serving and play with your friend CRYSTAL.

Swag with balls of steel hanging from my spear.LOL When hoing and being pregnant classy? I just don't know anymore. Yeah I am classy too, I use to bang chicks while the baby's crib was literally next to her twin size bed. I wouldn't call myself classy, the baby cried so much while I was banging the baby's worthless mother. I decided to get the ho up to make the baby formula. I was like geez, I got to be a nanny, counselor, social worker for hos in this game. I ain't sign up for this. Now we got to make sure chicks know what "fake bills" look like too. You would think after selling you're beat up thighs and cheeks you would have some damn common sense. This game is going downhill. Go work for Walmart.

Drewbruski.

[ExhibitJ]

I love paying for pussy. I still treat them kind and with respect because despite what they are doing I am happy they take care of me and my needs. It's not about them, it's about me. Then I get to go home without the whole snuggling thing afterwards. Granted some providers I have become really cool with so that's always a plus. That makes repeating easier and safer. They know you and what you like.

My. 02.

BG111.I've been away for a while. But I had to support this post first on my return.

I got to agree with Buff. Thank goodness for these fine women. Treat them with respect and they will treat you like the man you really are.

We're paying for the company all the time with civilian dates or significant others. But here, you can pay for a special need from a professional. Because it is her specialty, she's extremely good at it.

When you have the money, you take you car to a professional mechanic instead of your friend who just happens to work on cars.

Same thing here, when I need some specific, special attention, WITHOUT DRAMA or further obligation. I'm willing to pay for it to get it the way I want. (Quick or role play or sensual or wild or lay back relax and take care of ME for a change).

J.

[JerseyGirl]

I just LOVE, LOVE, LOVE giving HEAD

[Nikki Nikki]

Big girl panties don't work for you. Just focus on that bologna your serving and play with your friend CRYSTAL.

Swag with balls of steel hanging from my spear.Who is crystal? Who are you? We've never met. Are you even real? Oh that's right. Savannah! Hello my dear. Don't forget to take your meds.

[ThrowAwayToday]

Thank all of you amazing thread took up the past hour catching up.

[Member #4697]

Who is crystal? Who are you? We've never met. Are you even real? Oh that's right. Savannah! Hello my dear. Don't forget to take your meds.I thought you said you were staying out of the drama because your too classy? What happened?

[Member #4697]

LOL When hoing and being pregnant classy? I just don't know anymore. Yeah I am classy too, I use to bang chicks while the baby's crib was literally next to her twin size bed. I wouldn't call myself classy, the baby cried so much while I was banging the baby's worthless mother. I decided to get the ho up to make the baby formula. I was like geez, I got to be a nanny, counselor, social worker for hos in this game. I ain't sign up for this. Now we got to make sure chicks know what "fake bills" look like too. You would think after selling you're beat up thighs and cheeks you would have some damn common sense. This game is going downhill. Go work for Walmart.

Drewbruski.I've never claimed to be classy neither. I've done things I'm not proud of and I've banged chicks I'm not proud of back to back within the hour. I call those slump busters. Sometimes you need to bang a 3 to really appreciate a 9. Mind you I've never banged a 2 like Nikki Nikki Nikki Nikki Nikki Nikki (however many Nikki's it is). And I agree about the fake money. Educate yourself. Should be a bachelor degree program and university's for aspiring escorts.

KC.

[Admin2]

I just LOVE, LOVE, LOVE giving HEADYes this is indeed kind of an ad. Jersey if I ever meet you, at some point when you're taking a break from giving me head remind me to give you a spanking.

I however found it random, weird, funny, kinda WTFey and perfectly in keeping with the fucking bizarre nature of this thread.

Honestly this is without question the fucking weirdest of all the fight threads on the forum and the first one I read when I work.

If one of you other chicks writes a big long ad, it's gone, if you all start writing ads, they will all be gone.

A2

PS To all the guys saying I should ban Swag, are you fucking nuts? You can't pay for entertainment like this at a comedy club. Go pop some fucking popcorn and enjoy the show. Swag can only post here.

[Ufo407]

I did't buy any waders cause I'm saving my money for some other things. I just rolled two rubbers up to my knees and hopped in.


I bought some hip waders today and am back.

[BuffGuy111]

I've been away for a while. But I had to support this post first on my return.

I got to agree with Buff. Thank goodness for these fine women. Treat them with respect and they will treat you like the man you really are.

We're paying for the company all the time with civilian dates or significant others. But here, you can pay for a special need from a professional. Because it is her specialty, she's extremely good at it.

When you have the money, you take you car to a professional mechanic instead of your friend who just happens to work on cars.

Same thing here, when I need some specific, special attention, WITHOUT DRAMA or further obligation. I'm willing to pay for it to get it the way I want. (Quick or role play or sensual or wild or lay back relax and take care of ME for a change).

J.To the guy who made me the hobbyist I am today, welcome back from semi-retirement. I surely appreciate all the wisdom you've passed along to me. Now get back to work and reviewing LOL.

BG111.

[AncientOne]

This comment you chimed in on was about the litter box so you referring it to WimpFagVino makes me go hmmmm.

As for reviews, I'm not asking for anything so you shouldn't be concerned with any reviews. And I wouldn't be giving you Amy either.

Swag with balls of steel hanging from my spear.A2 cleverly created this Rat Trap and it has become better than watching an Academy Award Winning movie (popcorn optional). Quite Frankly and I think I speak for most of this board sans KC / little fucking Meech, I am tired of ALL your negativity and attacks so this is the plan. EVERY time you post here or on any thread, you will receive an ass bashing "review" of your alter ego Savanna. Lets start by stating that you BEGGED 1 or 2 prominent SM's here to pay you a visit so your business could benefit from their subsequent glowing review of you. I have heard this referred to as "the Jag effect"! Pretty slick move by a hurting SP who'd been thrown off USAG for being "bat shit crazy". Kudos for that plan of action except the SM's in question had heard of your stinky pussy (Literally) from other respected mongers and took a PASS. Obviously pissed you off as now you continue to attack almost everyone on this board except your Bronx ***** with the little penis (cross verified by trusted SP's) King Casanova a / k / a Little Fucking Counterfeit Meech. I for one will not let up on the 2 of you until you go away. Expect EVERY KingSwag post from now on to be responded to by yours truly with a "Savana is bat shit crazy and her pussy smells like last weeks catch of the day". Play safe. AncientOne.

[Quasimodo45]

A2 cleverly created this Rat Trap and it has become better than watching an Academy Award Winning movie (popcorn optional). ~~~ Play safe. AncientOne.NO WAY you can get through this mess without popcorn! Buy it by the ton!

[Fisherman0317]

I just LOVE, LOVE, LOVE giving HEADThat mouth should be registered!!

[Otwist]

I've been away for a while. But I had to support this post first on my return.

I got to agree with Buff. Thank goodness for these fine women. Treat them with respect and they will treat you like the man you really are.

We're paying for the company all the time with civilian dates or significant others. But here, you can pay for a special need from a professional. Because it is her specialty, she's extremely good at it.

When you have the money, you take you car to a professional mechanic instead of your friend who just happens to work on cars.

Same thing here, when I need some specific, special attention, WITHOUT DRAMA or further obligation. I'm willing to pay for it to get it the way I want. (Quick or role play or sensual or wild or lay back relax and take care of ME for a change).

J.It is great to see one of the good guys making a come back. Welcome back!

[Member #5141]

I remember PinoBoy being chewed out for it but everyone ignores it for jag. It's just as dangerous when he does it as anyone else. Probably more dangerous because he sees every girl.

[WilliamMstrs]

The way this is going I may just open a popcorn home delivery service. That way no one will miss another exciting episode on this channel. Now back to our show!

[LuvInIt007]

If the jury and the prosecutors left the forum for a week who would be the only person to post in here? What would that do to an ego? What? No one going to play in the rat trap with me?

Sometimes "silence is golden" and for the girls, provide the best experience for what you do and wealth will prosper.

Have a great day.

[Jmoedb]

Savannas pussy does NOT stink. Smh.

[BlackPrince]

What's going on people.

I am not in the business of ruining any young girl's career or being used to do so. Nikki is a young girl, she got the potential to go to the top. She did say some things that was funny. But I rather a girl be confident in herself, opposed to being the opposite. Nikki's track record speaks for itself, last time I checked she is not being black balled and her performance is very strong. I do not play those games. Nikki has been a stand up girl in this game so far. If women are beefing with each other, why'all got to handle that on you're own. That goes for savannah too. Savannah overall has been a stand up girl in this game until she made a couple of mistakes. Hopefully she learns from it and move on. Cats are not really on it like that. Cats just want the best performance out of girls. This thread is entertaining but I wouldn't want anybody to get caught up over bs. I will say it again, if girls stayed out of the politics of the game and got their money. Everything would run smoothly. Look at Strawberry, Jersey girl, Froggy and etc are doing well. Lastly, Savannah you are good to go, stop engaging and all is forgiven. You cannot take you're anger out on 1 hobbyist on EVERYBODY. That is a losing situation.

Drewbruski.

[Admin2]

I remember PinoBoy being chewed out for it but everyone ignores it for jag. It's just as dangerous when he does it as anyone else. Probably more dangerous because he sees every girl.Note the blue ink, this is A2 the godlike presence on the forum, not my evil twin the douchebag speaking.

We have an infraction called "Unsafe Sex Bragging" if the point of the report is to glorify going raw dog then I throw a flag. If in a report about a chick a guy says "I hit it raw" or "I got BBFS" then that's informational.

I admit its subjective, members that make a habit of it end up getting a moderation note and I'm probably quicker pulling the trigger. I don't remember Jag ever going on about it. If I'm wrong report a couple posts where you see it and I'll look at it.

The difference is; is it informational, or reveling.

Please pardon the PSA in the middle of all this insanity.

A2

[Member #5141]

Note the blue ink, this is A2 the godlike presence on the forum, not my evil twin the douchebag speaking.

We have an infraction called "Unsafe Sex Bragging" if the point of the report is to glorify going raw dog then I throw a flag. If in a report about a chick a guy says "I hit it raw" or "I got BBFS" then that's informational.

I admit its subjective, members that make a habit of it end up getting a moderation note and I'm probably quicker pulling the trigger. I don't remember Jag ever going on about it. If I'm wrong report a couple posts where you see it and I'll look at it.

The difference is; is it informational, or reveling.

Please pardon the PSA in the middle of all this insanity.

A2My question wasn't about your moderation but about the way board members treat him differently. I don't know if you thought I was questioning your moderation. I wasn't and appreciate your work. Though now that you brought it up. I couldn't care less if BBFS is reported as "Unsafe sex bragging" or as just another acronym in a review. I'd rather know about it than not know.

[Admin2]

My question wasn't about your moderation but about the way board members treat him differently. I don't know if you thought I was questioning your moderation. I wasn't and appreciate your work. Though now that you brought it up. I couldn't care less if BBFS is reported as "Unsafe sex bragging" or as just another acronym in a review. I'd rather know about it than not know.I didn't think, whups excuse me I didn't think you were questioning my work. I thought it was a good question so I took a moment to address it. Saying "I got BBFS" isn't unsafe sex bragging. Saying "I slide my bare cock into her silky smooth pussy and dumped my load deep up inside her" would be.

If I thought you were out of line I would have said so, neither I nor my evil twin are shy. The mention of reporting a few posts so I could look at them was an invitation not a challenge. I have no favorites on the forum. I looked at a couple of his posts. He likes to talk about his cock, and talks about spewing his jizz a lot. He implies that it's bare but I didn't see any where he's actually talking about raw dog. I might have missed some, he averages around 3 posts a day.

If you see it, report it, I'll hammer it. The rules are the same for everybody except me and Jax.

A2

OH fuck, and the Russians, can't forget to mention the Russians or it pisses them off they do whatever the hell they want as well..

[Member #5141]

I didn't think, whups excuse me I didn't think you were questioning my work. I thought it was a good question so I took a moment to address it. Saying "I got BBFS" isn't unsafe sex bragging. Saying "I slide my bare cock into her silky smooth pussy and dumped my load deep up inside her" would be.

If I thought you were out of line I would have said so, neither I nor my evil twin are shy. The mention of reporting a few posts so I could look at them was an invitation not a challenge. I have no favorites on the forum. I looked at a couple of his posts. He likes to talk about his cock, and talks about spewing his jizz a lot. He implies that it's bare but I didn't see any where he's actually talking about raw dog. I might have missed some, he averages around 3 posts a day.

If you see it, report it, I'll hammer it. The rules are the same for everybody except me and Jax.

A2

OH fuck, and the Russians, can't forget to mention the Russians or it pisses them off they do whatever the hell they want as well..I wouldn't report it. I'm glad he posts about it when he does. He doesn't do it in the "Unsafe sex bragging" way but I wouldn't care if he did.

[Vino 7373]

You obviously don't know savanna, she turns down calls very frequently and you can ask woodjablomi how difficult it was to see her. I bet she may see 1 maybe 2 clients in a day and the fact she request no reviews and thanked the prior reviewers I guarantee she has never begged nor called anyone for a review. If she is contacted it's because she is receiving the call. But WimpFagVino kept begging her to post on her BP how hot he was and refer a comparison to vino being Danny devito. Still have the texts. And Fag enough of the PM bromance, just go with it.

Swag with balls of steel.Because you just confirmed and outed yourself 100% with that, "Still have the texts" remark. Oops!

BTW, again your remarks are totally ridiculous. Kinda contradictory that I would text you wanting you to post on BP how hot I was but yet I looked like Danny DeVito. People are playing you like a fiddle, Savanna. You're falling for it hook, line and sinker.

[Jazak]

Savannas pussy does NOT stink. Smh.I agree, Savannas pussy does not stink and she is still one of the best providers in the Orlando area. So if you feel yourself needing to talk bad about Savanna that it fine say what ever you want to say, but one thing is for sure her personal hygiene and services have always been Excellent and that alone deserves to be respected.

[Admin2]

For the douchebags posting is Swag really Savanna, No Fucking shit Sherlock I text you personally and singed Se Acabo La Fiesta PUNTA Swag out. A troll doesn't use the same phone with same IP adress, I flew UTR because I learned how to be a douchebag by the very best.

Se Acabo La Fiesta PUNTA.

Swag with massive balls of steal and a sharp ass spear.La Fiesta PUNTA would be "the party tip?" So you're saying The party tip ended. Acabar is also the verb they use for cumming, so you could also be saying The party tip came (as in orgasm) in any event se+reflexive verb equals third person.

Did you mean Puta? Which is another word for wh0 re? Personally I find puta to be a compliment for women but most do use it as a pejorative. Or maybe you meant Puenta which is a bridge or point.

I'm confused, but I haven't had my coffee yet either.

A2.

[FLAdventurer]

La Fiesta PUNTA would be "the party tip?" So you're saying The party tip ended. Acabar is also the verb they use for cumming, so you could also be saying The party tip came (as in orgasm) in any event se+reflexive verb equals third person.

Did you mean Puta? Which is another word for wh0 re? Personally I find puta to be a compliment for women but most do use it as a pejorative. Or maybe you meant Puenta which is a bridge or point.

I'm confused, but I haven't had my coffee yet either.

A2.She's making you work!!

Strong coffee is always a plus!

[PharmaGuy]

Is Orlando your favorite board? I believe it is!!

[FLAdventurer]

Is Orlando your favorite board? I believe it is!!I am willing to bet that he spends more time with us. And with that, our charm has to impact him.

[Jazak]

La Fiesta PUNTA would be "the party tip?" So you're saying The party tip ended. Acabar is also the verb they use for cumming, so you could also be saying The party tip came (as in orgasm) in any event se+reflexive verb equals third person.

Did you mean Puta? Which is another word for wh0 re? Personally I find puta to be a compliment for women but most do use it as a pejorative. Or maybe you meant Puenta which is a bridge or point.

I'm confused, but I haven't had my coffee yet either.

A2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSHYlvxIhYo.

[Camera3]

Well, yes and no. The button that quotes the previous post does not include the headline, and that headline said:

Se acabo la fiesta (Fag aka Wimp Vino because I can't say Pimp).

The rest of this is for other ass hole members, not A2.

And, frankly, the stupid continued attack on Vino is all I really saw or cared about. Yes, I can see the rest is for Jag, probably. But that is a stupid senseless attack, as well.

I know this is a no holds bared, bare knuckle zone, and I get that, but there is a point where it does become pointless. If at the end of the day it is about pussy and getting fucked then I have to give creds and points to both Vino and Jag because their reviews and tips have helped me get fucked by a few very fine ladies.

I cannot say that about some of the frequent fliers in this thread.

I am not on anybodies side. If anything, I am an equal opportunity ass hole and called out Vino, Jag and many others when I saw the need. And my opinion is the one that matters to me. Yes, they have quirks. Me, too. It is far easier to take the quirks of guys that leave good intel on the site than those, guys or girls, that waste our time.

And who gives a fuck if it is wasted band width or wasted bandwidth. Is that all you got?

So, go fuck yourselves.

And have a nice day.

C3.


Your constant attack on Vino is way out of line. The gentleman may be many things, and many may have issue with him, but his intel and reviews are always spot on.

Now, I just spent two minutes of my life checking your reviews. Let's see, hmmmmmmmmmmm, oh, there is one from six weeks ago. There. There is a second. Now, maybe. No, that one doesn't count because you are commenting on someone else's review. Is that it? Two reviews?

So, let's see, your score is two and Vino is worth a million because he gives a shit about the integrity of his intel.

You pretty much continue to be a total waste of band width.

Just sayin'.

C3.

Point of information, this post you quoted was attacking Jag not Vino. Just trying to provide a scorecard.

A2

[Otwist]

I remember PinoBoy being chewed out for it but everyone ignores it for jag. It's just as dangerous when he does it as anyone else. Probably more dangerous because he sees every girl.The Jag does not post about BBFS activities. In several of his reviews after his descriptive prose about finishing inside the lady, he will say covered of course. So he is covering up. Sometimes he will add PM about BBFS. I have not asked him what he means by this. I took it to mean that there is a possibility of BBFS if you want it, but he is not going to post about it on the board. I may be wrong, but why don't you PM him and ask him. He is very willing to talk to any of the board members and help wherever he can. Jag is a good guy IMHO.

[Camera3]

As I travel I can tell you that I run into A2 in other cities, as well. So, he spreads the love a bit.

There are some other cities that have these types of open forum threads. Rat Trap isn't the only one that has this much entertainment. There are others that might be more obnoxious but certainly not more entertaining.

That said, I would also be remiss to not add that, in my humble opinion, the legitimate good intel in our little neighborhood is not found to be any better anywhere else. If you can't find exactly what you are looking for at the donation you desire by reading the fucking forum here then you are a moron.

C3.


Is Orlando your favorite board? I believe it is!!

[Member #5141]

The Jag does not post about BBFS activities. In several of his reviews after his descriptive prose about finishing inside the lady, he will say covered of course. So he is covering up. Sometimes he will add PM about BBFS. I have not asked him what he means by this. I took it to mean that there is a possibility of BBFS if you want it, but he is not going to post about it on the board. I may be wrong, but why don't you PM him and ask him. He is very willing to talk to any of the board members and help wherever he can. Jag is a good guy IMHO.I guess that's an assumption that other people aren't making. The point of my question here isn't really about whether or not he does but why he's treated differently than Pino was.

I think it's simply the case that few board members have seen him mention BBFS and no one on this board thinks he does BBFS (And maybe he isn't. I'm just assuming that he does when he mentions it but he told me that he doesn't).

[Admin2]

The point of my question here isn't really about whether or not he does but why he's treated differently than Pino was.Are you saying you think I should lock Pino down in a fucking cage and prohibit him from posting a single word that isn't Specifically and Directly about an experience with a chick? Do you think I should ask Pino if that's what he wants? Or should I just do that because you want to make sure I treat everybody the same in your eyes? Do you think Pino would thank you for that or be a little pissed off?

You can keep talking about this if you want, I didn't post this in blue on purpose, but this is a hardhat area if you keep talking about me playing favorites I'm going to respond.

A2.

[Admin2]

I am willing to bet that he spends more time with us. And with that, our charm has to impact him.I hate to pick a favorite but I've pretty much already done that. The first city I really got involved in as me not the godlike presence of my alter ego was Cincinnati (affectionately known as Sincy) and if I ever moved back to the States it would probably be there.

I also like Boston's "The Massholes" a lot as well. Being in the epicenter of the liberal elite I find those guys to be the most highbrow.

I got to say though, that there is no fucking place that matches this thread for off the fucking hook insanity. Giving credit where credit is due, we got to thank the goddess for that. Orlando would be a close second for a USA mongering destination, the talent might be marginally better here, but I think the hobby faces less opposition there.

[Member #5141]

Are you saying you think I should lock Pino down in a fucking cage and prohibit him from posting a single word that isn't Specifically and Directly about an experience with a chick? Do you think I should ask Pino if that's what he wants? Or should I just do that because you want to make sure I treat everybody the same in your eyes? Do you think Pino would thank you for that or be a little pissed off?

You can keep talking about this if you want, I didn't post this in blue on purpose, but this is a hardhat area if you keep talking about me playing favorites I'm going to respond.

A2.My question was, and always has been, about how board members treat the two of them differently, not the moderators. I don't think of the moderators as board members. I'm not asking you as a moderator to do anything, not criticizing you, and not accusing you of playing favorites.

My original question was never about you or intended for you. I wasn't asking if / why the mods treat Pino differently from Jag but why everyone else seemed to. (Though I appreciate you clarifying that you treat mentions of BBFS in a review differently from bragging about BBFS).

Concerning my original question: it seems that people don't think Jag is doing BBFS and is just reporting that it's available when he happens to come across that information. Hence he's treated differently from Pino who did admit to BBFS sometimes.

[RowdyReptile]

Does King Swaganna sound at the very least mildly retarded? Or maybe she's on street meds? Regardless, she does sound quit stupid. Can someone help me translate her posts? "STUPIDATONICS"? But, what am I thinking, we only fuck these ladies. Right? She is a genius though at anti marketing. Sure hope her pussy also doesn't stink like some mongers have posted. Just another negative if you know what I mean. I'll just stick with sane providers, thank you.

EOM.

RR.


For those who always wondered how so many handles. Simple you can be 1 or 2 or 100 trolls as long as you have the same amount of electronics. You can even log all your handles on at the same time with each separate electronic and separate IP address.

Swag with balls of steel out.

[Mystical0945]

Are you saying you think I should lock Pino down in a fucking cage and prohibit him from posting a single word that isn't Specifically and Directly about an experience with a chick? Do you think I should ask Pino if that's what he wants? Or should I just do that because you want to make sure I treat everybody the same in your eyes? Do you think Pino would thank you for that or be a little pissed off?

You can keep talking about this if you want, I didn't post this in blue on purpose, but this is a hardhat area if you keep talking about me playing favorites I'm going to respond.

A2.A2 my love I have an iron clad cage that I will lock him up for you. Just say the word and he will become my pet! LOL Just Sayin.

Much Love To ALL.

Xo Ashley.

Play Safe BUT Always Play HARD.

[Pinoboy]

Are you saying you think I should lock Pino down in a fucking cage and prohibit him from posting a single word that isn't Specifically and Directly about an experience with a chick? Do you think I should ask Pino if that's what he wants? Or should I just do that because you want to make sure I treat everybody the same in your eyes? Do you think Pino would thank you for that or be a little pissed off?

You can keep talking about this if you want, I didn't post this in blue on purpose, but this is a hardhat area if you keep talking about me playing favorites I'm going to respond.

A2.Out of all due respect A2, from what I gather from his posts, Implied isn't implying (no pun intended) any ill will towards me. Rather, he is simply wondering why I caught so much flak when I would make posts containing details of my BBFS escapades, whearas no one ever seems to find any fault when the Jag's posts appear to imply that he too engages in uncovered activity. Of course, I could be totally wrong concerning Implied's intentions, but if I'm not wrong then I'd like to thank him for sticking his head out there for me on this one.

Regarding Jag, I have nothing but the utmost respect for him and what he does for this forum and the intel he provides. He has always responded to me via PM each and every time when I have sought details and advice about providers, which I'm sure he has done for every other reputable member here. I am very familiar with his writing style and how he has mentioned countless times about "fertilizing the cervixes" of so many of the SP's he has been with. And while he doesn't include the disclaimer "covered of course" in every one of his posts, after reading so many of his reviews you kind of assume that to be the case and not to take the comments like the one above literally. Then again, only he and his selected "partners" would know for sure. Regardless, with him being the undisputed king mackdaddy of this board, very few if any would call him out on thedetails present in his reviews. Doing so would not only potentially make such a person disliked by the most valuable source of information here, but also from Jag followers alike.

And for those of you that take issue with by BBFS activities, while I have made no such posts containing info about it in quite some time, that certainly does not mean that it has ceased to be an aspect with my hobbying. I just feel there's no need to mention it for all of the masses to be aware of anymore. With that kind of info out in the open, more people are just going to go see the same provider and want BB as well, obviously this doesn't apply for all of you anti-BB'ers out there. While I like contributing to this board just like anyone else, bb'ing is something that I now like to keep on the down low.

[MoreMike147]

This forum has provided me w such good times! To these retarded arguments. To vouches of the best girls and just sooo much more than I could ask for! Keep 'them coming mf's.

P.S. Tyler the Provider if you're reading this. I'm going to destroy that perfect body of yours!

[Admin2]

My question was, and always has been, about how board members treat the two of them differently, not the moderators.I was not reading this in your posts. My apology is as public as my duchebaggery. This is not sarcasm, I'm really sorry. I misunderstood.

I also apologize for my dim witted alter ego.

Good day,

A2

[Admin2]

Out of all due respect A2, from what I gather from his posts, Implied isn't implying (no pun intended) any ill will towards me. Rather, he is simply wondering why I caught so much flak when I would make posts containing details of my BBFS escapades, whearas no one ever seems to find any fault when the Jag's posts appear to imply that he too engages in uncovered activity. Of course, I could be totally wrong concerning Implied's intentions, but if I'm not wrong then I'd like to thank him for sticking his head out there for me on this one.

Regarding Jag, I have nothing but the utmost respect for him and what he does for this forum and the intel he provides. He has always responded to me via PM each and every time when I have sought details and advice about providers, which I'm sure he has done for every other reputable member here. I am very familiar with his writing style and how he has mentioned countless times about "fertilizing the cervixes" of so many of the SP's he has been with. And while he doesn't include the disclaimer "covered of course" in every one of his posts, after reading so many of his reviews you kind of assume that to be the case and not to take the comments like the one above literally. Then again, only he and his selected "partners" would know for sure. Regardless, with him being the undisputed king mackdaddy of this board, very few if any would call him out on thedetails present in his reviews. Doing so would not only potentially make such a person disliked by the most valuable source of information here, but also from Jag followers alike.

And for those of you that take issue with by BBFS activities, while I have made no such posts containing info about it in quite some time, that certainly does not mean that it has ceased to be an aspect with my hobbying. I just feel there's no need to mention it for all of the masses to be aware of anymore. With that kind of info out in the open, more people are just going to go see the same provider and want BB as well, obviously this doesn't apply for all of you anti-BB'ers out there. While I like contributing to this board just like anyone else, bb'ing is something that I now like to keep on the down low.Pino, we have another infraction called "Unsafe Sex Complaining." If your posts about unwrapped sex are primarily about the experience with the provider and the "unwrapped" portion is informational you have no issue with me. If the fucking ladies knitting circle clutches their pearls and posts a bunch of shit about you going in raw then they, not you, are guilty of the douchebaggery and if somebody reports that post then I will most certainly throw a fucking flag.

It is the position of the USASG that unless you happen to be borrowing somebody else's cock for your dates then how you go about them is your fucking business.

You are correct, Jag does indeed talk about fertilizing the cervix's of lots of coed cheerleaders but he refrains from mentioning a word about the presence or absence of safety gear.

A2

[BuffGuy111]

Does King Swaganna sound at the very least mildly retarded? Or maybe she's on street meds? Regardless, she does sound quit stupid. Can someone help me translate her posts? "STUPIDATONICS"? But, what am I thinking, we only fuck these ladies. Right? She is a genius though at anti marketing. Sure hope her pussy also doesn't stink like some mongers have posted. Just another negative if you know what I mean. I'll just stick with sane providers, thank you.

EOM.

RR.Wait for it!

LOL.

[Member #5141]

I was not reading this in your posts. My apology is as public as my duchebaggery. This is not sarcasm, I'm really sorry. I misunderstood.

I also apologize for my dim witted alter ego.

Good day,

A2Thanks for your response and I appreciated hearing your point of view and civility.

[Member #5141]

Out of all due respect A2, from what I gather from his posts, Implied isn't implying (no pun intended) any ill will towards me. Rather, he is simply wondering why I caught so much flak when I would make posts containing details of my BBFS escapades, whearas no one ever seems to find any fault when the Jag's posts appear to imply that he too engages in uncovered activity. Of course, I could be totally wrong concerning Implied's intentions, but if I'm not wrong then I'd like to thank him for sticking his head out there for me on this one.

Regarding Jag, I have nothing but the utmost respect for him and what he does for this forum and the intel he provides. He has always responded to me via PM each and every time when I have sought details and advice about providers, which I'm sure he has done for every other reputable member here. I am very familiar with his writing style and how he has mentioned countless times about "fertilizing the cervixes" of so many of the SP's he has been with. And while he doesn't include the disclaimer "covered of course" in every one of his posts, after reading so many of his reviews you kind of assume that to be the case and not to take the comments like the one above literally. Then again, only he and his selected "partners" would know for sure. Regardless, with him being the undisputed king mackdaddy of this board, very few if any would call him out on thedetails present in his reviews. Doing so would not only potentially make such a person disliked by the most valuable source of information here, but also from Jag followers alike.

And for those of you that take issue with by BBFS activities, while I have made no such posts containing info about it in quite some time, that certainly does not mean that it has ceased to be an aspect with my hobbying. I just feel there's no need to mention it for all of the masses to be aware of anymore. With that kind of info out in the open, more people are just going to go see the same provider and want BB as well, obviously this doesn't apply for all of you anti-BB'ers out there. While I like contributing to this board just like anyone else, bb'ing is something that I now like to keep on the down low.I don't take his descriptions literally. He's made some posts saying things like 'pm for BBFS info' and my assumption that he does BBFS is based on those posts.

For what its worth, I'm in the camp that takes issue with your and everyone else's BBFS activities. It makes hobbying more dangerous for all of us. I'd also like you to post when you do it and with who. I'd rather know than not know.

[Pinoboy]

I don't take his descriptions literally. He's made some posts saying things like 'pm for BBFS info' and my assumption that he does BBFS is based on those posts.

For what its worth, I'm in the camp that takes issue with your and everyone else's BBFS activities. It makes hobbying more dangerous for all of us. I'd also like you to post when you do it and with who. I'd rather know than not know.Ok I respect that you are against it, but I will not make it a habit of coming out and revealing with whom I have done it with on the open forum like I did in the past. I have realized that nothing good comes out of revealing such info to just everybody. Not only could it be detrimental to a provider's reputation thus hurting businesss, but also looking at it the other way there is the high probability that BB service will be asked of them now on a regular basis from others besides me. I'm sure most, if not all the providers that I have done it with are not willing to provide the same for just anybody for whatever reason. And yes I have got my fair share of "this is my first time", "you're the only one I do this with", and "you look clean" etc. Just imagine all of the "you did it with so and so, why not me" type of scenarios this could incite. I'm sure that wouldn't go over too well for me should I decide to make a repeat visit with her knowing I leaked that info out.

My advice to you is, if you feel that your health is substantially more at risk due to my actions and others like me then STOP HOBBYING! If that is not an option for you then just stick to providers who are reviewed extensively and well known to be non-GFE with EVERYTHING covered. Off the top of my head girls like KaitlynLove, Cassie and Ashley Monroe (although I did nut all over her asshole on last visit way back) fit that bill perfectly! FWIW, I have never dreamed with either KaitlynLove or Cassie so they are still very much viable options for you.

[NedleyMandingo]

I have been accused of posting A BS review of Maddie who tried coming on this site yesterday. Her BP link is attached below. Maybe describing her pics as accurate was the wrong word. Some of her pics do seem to be her so maybe I should have said that they were a fair representation. I will say however that I don't think any of you would be disappointed with this girls looks. She has the body and looks that rivals KaitlynLuv, Dallas and Amber Bliss.

Because of the insults that were thrown at me and accusations of "ruining this forum" via PM I will not be posting anymore reviews in a public forum. I will stay here and share intel with a select few of you that I have mutual trust with through PM's. Maybe if a couple of you see Maddie and confirm that I didn't throw out a BS review I will change my mind about this situation!

http://orlando.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/d-real-pics-ll-rvd-23/11026422

[FLAdventurer]

I have been accused of posting A BS review of Maddie who tried coming on this site yesterday. Her BP link is attached below. Maybe describing her pics as accurate was the wrong word. Some of her pics do seem to be her so maybe I should have said that they were a fair representation. I will say however that I don't think any of you would be disappointed with this girls looks. She has the body and looks that rivals KaitlynLuv, Dallas and Amber Bliss.

Because of the insults that were thrown at me via PM I will not be posting anymore reviews in a public forum. I will stay here and share intel with a select few of you that I have mutual trust with through PM's. Maybe if a couple of you see Maddie and confirm that I didn't throw out a BS review I will change my mind about this situation!

http://orlando.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/d-real-pics-ll-rvd-23/11026422It has been confirmed by many that Maddie is hot. And besides, since when is the criteria that all pics be accurate for them to advertise as was noted? Our gals do need to protect their true identity. Body shots need to be accurate, but the face? I wouldn't do it if I were them.

Also, after thinking it through, you just might conclude you are over reacting. Stick around.

[PharmaGuy]

I have been accused of posting A BS review of Maddie who tried coming on this site yesterday. Her BP link is attached below. Maybe describing her pics as accurate was the wrong word. Some of her pics do seem to be her so maybe I should have said that they were a fair representation. I will say however that I don't think any of you would be disappointed with this girls looks. She has the body and looks that rivals KaitlynLuv, Dallas and Amber Bliss.

Because of the insults that were thrown at me and accusations of "ruining this forum" via PM I will not be posting anymore reviews in a public forum. I will stay here and share intel with a select few of you that I have mutual trust with through PM's. Maybe if a couple of you see Maddie and confirm that I didn't throw out a BS review I will change my mind about this situation!

http://orlando.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/d-real-pics-ll-rvd-23/11026422I recall in earlier posts regarding Maddie that you mentioned she looked very similar to the pics she uses on BP. Meaning not her pics but a close resemblence. Just to back you up sir.

[Admin2]

since when is the criteria that all pics be accurate for them to advertise as was noted?All the way back to the World Sex Guide. Chicks don't have to post pics. Chicks can post pics of internet models with the disclaimer "These pics are not me but they are representative of what you will see when you meet me. " Then the guy making the phone call has that info before calling and if she's lying, he can say so on the forum.

What they can't do, and have never been allowed to do is post pics they rip off from the internet without saying so.

A2.

[FLAdventurer]

All the way back to the World Sex Guide. Chicks don't have to post pics. Chicks can post pics of internet models with the disclaimer "These pics are not me but they are representative of what you will see when you meet me. " Then the guy making the phone call has that info before calling and if she's lying, he can say so on the forum.

What they can't do, and have never been allowed to do is post pics they rip off from the internet without saying so.

A2.OK, that is more than fair.

Thanks.

[Member #5141]

Ok I respect that you are against it, but I will not make it a habit of coming out and revealing with whom I have done it with on the open forum like I did in the past. I have realized that nothing good comes out of revealing such info to just everybody. Not only could it be detrimental to a provider's reputation thus hurting businesss, but also looking at it the other way there is the high probability that BB service will be asked of them now on a regular basis from others besides me. I'm sure most, if not all the providers that I have done it with are not willing to provide the same for just anybody for whatever reason. And yes I have got my fair share of "this is my first time", "you're the only one I do this with", and "you look clean" etc. Just imagine all of the "you did it with so and so, why not me" type of scenarios this could incite. I'm sure that wouldn't go over too well for me should I decide to make a repeat visit with her knowing I leaked that info out.

My advice to you is, if you feel that your health is substantially more at risk due to my actions and others like me then STOP HOBBYING! If that is not an option for you then just stick to providers who are reviewed extensively and well known to be non-GFE with EVERYTHING covered. Off the top of my head girls like KaitlynLove, Cassie and Ashley Monroe (although I did nut all over her asshole on last visit way back) fit that bill perfectly! FWIW, I have never dreamed with either KaitlynLove or Cassie so they are still very much viable options for you.I understand why you wouldn't want to share that info with others. I assume others who do BBFS also like to keep it to themselves. Which makes me wonder how deep the rabbit hole goes and do a silent "Our Father" after seeing a girl.

Your advice to stop hobbying is understandable and maybe I'll take it. In the meantime, I feel denouncing BBFS will make me and everyone else involved safer so I don't mind occasionally trying. At the end of the day, adults are going to do what they want regardless of what I think. Thanks for the recommendations by the way. Never heard a bad thing said about Ashley or Kaitlyn.

[ThrowAwayToday]

I have been accused of posting A BS review of Maddie who tried coming on this site yesterday. Her BP link is attached below. Maybe describing her pics as accurate was the wrong word. Some of her pics do seem to be her so maybe I should have said that they were a fair representation. I will say however that I don't think any of you would be disappointed with this girls looks. She has the body and looks that rivals KaitlynLuv, Dallas and Amber Bliss.

Because of the insults that were thrown at me and accusations of "ruining this forum" via PM I will not be posting anymore reviews in a public forum. I will stay here and share intel with a select few of you that I have mutual trust with through PM's. Maybe if a couple of you see Maddie and confirm that I didn't throw out a BS review I will change my mind about this situation!

http://orlando.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/d-real-pics-ll-rvd-23/11026422Well deserved you defeat the entire purpose of the forums. You post a review and don't mention the pics are fake? Well thanks for fuckin nothing.

Your reviews will not be missed because nobody can believe you.

[Jesse54]

Well deserved you defeat the entire purpose of the forums. You post a review and don't mention the pics are fake? Well thanks for fuckin nothing.

Your reviews will not be missed because nobody can believe you.Well Mr or Mrs Throwaway 2 posts prior to this and neither about an actual dream. I would nominate you for the 2014 John Holmes award however there seems to be some stiff competition for it this year. Nedley has been a source of solid information for longer than I have been around. If he said she is a spinner and she turned out to be a fugly beast that might be a HOrse of a dif color. I for one will continue to trust his intel be it via open post or pm. Goodness the cheese in here is getting scarce. Just my. 02.

[Mafia45]

Well Mr or Mrs Throwaway 2 posts prior to this and neither about an actual dream. I would nominate you for the 2014 John Holmes award however there seems to be some stiff competition for it this year. Nedley has been a source of solid information for longer than I have been around. If he said she is a spinner and she turned out to be a fugly beast that might be a HOrse of a dif color. I for one will continue to trust his intel be it via open post or pm. Goodness the cheese in here is getting scarce. Just my. 02.I trust nedley intel for sure m-45.

[PharmaGuy]

Of course you'd back him up. Wouldn't want to ruin a good thing. I hate that site bustinjohns. Just another scam from one brother to another.

SavannaSwagger out.You know I'm your biggest fan and now you have crushed my poor heart!!

Pharmaguy with his meds out!

[PharmaGuy]

Miss him .

[Whiskeysours]

I have been accused of posting A BS review of Maddie who tried coming on this site yesterday. Her BP link is attached below. Maybe describing her pics as accurate was the wrong word. Some of her pics do seem to be her so maybe I should have said that they were a fair representation. I will say however that I don't think any of you would be disappointed with this girls looks. She has the body and looks that rivals KaitlynLuv, Dallas and Amber Bliss.

Because of the insults that were thrown at me and accusations of "ruining this forum" via PM I will not be posting anymore reviews in a public forum. I will stay here and share intel with a select few of you that I have mutual trust with through PM's. Maybe if a couple of you see Maddie and confirm that I didn't throw out a BS review I will change my mind about this situation!

http://orlando.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/d-real-pics-ll-rvd-23/11026422Brother Ned, you've contributed a lot to this forum. No one here is better or worse than anyone else. We're all here for the same reason, so respectfully I say, get some thicker skin and don't let any of us fellow degenerates stop you from contributing.

[Admin2]

I have been accused of posting A BS review of Maddie who tried coming on this site yesterday. Her BP link is attached below. Maybe describing her pics as accurate was the wrong word. Some of her pics do seem to be her so maybe I should have said that they were a fair representation. I will say however that I don't think any of you would be disappointed with this girls looks. She has the body and looks that rivals KaitlynLuv, Dallas and Amber Bliss.

Because of the insults that were thrown at me and accusations of "ruining this forum" via PM I will not be posting anymore reviews in a public forum. I will stay here and share intel with a select few of you that I have mutual trust with through PM's. Maybe if a couple of you see Maddie and confirm that I didn't throw out a BS review I will change my mind about this situation!

http://orlando.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/d-real-pics-ll-rvd-23/11026422I see this a lot on the forum when something like this happens. Ned be glad I didn't retire your account because you're not posting anymore. We don't pay the server costs so you can have a free private PM system. Members have no obligation to write reports, but not writing and saying you're not writing are two different things.

Another way you could have handled it was to put on your big boy pants, tell the cocksuckers that sent you shitty PM's to shut the fuck up, make your apologies for not mentioning the pic issue while explaining that the chick in question was close enough to them to not bother, and just keep moving on.

If you're gone, you're gone, I'll never beg somebody to post here but it coulda played differently.

Good day,

A2.

[Barolo]

Well deserved you defeat the entire purpose of the forums. You post a review and don't mention the pics are fake? Well thanks for fuckin nothing.

Your reviews will not be missed because nobody can believe you.What have you contributed to this board?

[PharmaGuy]

Well deserved you defeat the entire purpose of the forums. You post a review and don't mention the pics are fake? Well thanks for fuckin nothing.

Your reviews will not be missed because nobody can believe you.


Not sure what Potsy's beef is with Nedley but it must go way deeper than this obviously, clearly bad blood here, and it appears he's out to get him.

What did these clowns think, that they were going to go see Maddie, come back and report that the pics where not her. Then only to have Ned coming on here to adamantly defend it and say "yes they are!" ? Of course not pure idiocy. Look he's a respected senior, has hooked alot of mongers up, he says she smokin hot and a hell of a good time, be lucky for the intel.

Goodnight trolls.

Pharmaguy with his meds out!!

[ThrowAwayToday]

What have you contributed to this board?This is not my first account let alone my only one lets just say early a few years back I had problems with the mods but that should all clear up now thanks to this nifty new forum.

[Potsy]

Not sure what Potsy's beef is with Nedley but it must go way deeper than this obviously, clearly bad blood here, and it appears he's out to get him.

What did these clowns think, that they were going to go see Maddie, come back and report that the pics where not her. Then only to have Ned coming on here to adamantly defend it and say "yes they are!" ? Of course not pure idiocy. Look he's a respected senior, has hooked alot of mongers up, he says she smokin hot and a hell of a good time, be lucky for the intel.

Goodnight trolls.

Pharmaguy with his meds out!!I don't know where you get the idea that this issue goes way deeper and that there is clearly bad blood here and that I am out to get NedleyMandingo. I didn't have any opinion about him one way or the other, until he posted a positive review of a girl using obvious B&S pics. She may well turn out to be smokin hot and a great provider, but it doesn't change the fact that she is not the playboy playmate in the pics she posted. How you get I am out to get him is just plain stupid. She was caught using fake pics, he was caught vouching for the pics as being accurate. Thats the extent of it. He could have posted that he made a mistake and that she looks similar to the fake pics and it would have been done and over with. He chose to make it into a big deal by crying about it and posting his semi goodbye post.

I also didn't come on here to cry like a baby about the PMs he sent me saying some nasty crap including "GO FUCK YOURSELF". Hell I had one idiot PM me after I posted a negative review about Natalie and in the PM he told me to shoot myself in the face, I messaged him back and told him to go screw himself and put him on ignore.

How is it that I am a troll for outing a provider using fake pics and a member stating they are accurate?

So what are you saying, B&S pics are ok if a member says the providers hot, but not ok if she not very good looking? Thats some insane bag of worms.

One thing I laugh about when it comes to this site, is that 20 members will make similar posts about similar things and no one says a word. Then a post is made about one of the chosen special ones and the attacks dogs come out to attack the poster and defend the chosen one who screwed up to begin with. There are hundreds of posts outing providers using fake pics and tons of thanks from other members for that info. I posted about the fake pics and a member saying they are accurate when they are not and I am labeled a troll?

Pharma you go on to state, Look he's a respected senior, has hooked alot of mongers up, he says she smokin hot and a hell of a good time, be lucky for the intel. How or why would I trust the intel of a monger who vouches for the stolen pics of a provider as accurate? Especially with all the crap floating around about mongers posting fake positive reviews about providers just to get a discount or a freebie.

Lastly and the funniest part is that in her BP ad in the title line she sates "REAL PICS", yes they are real just not of her, all of her pics are real pics of Ciara Price. LOL

[PharmaGuy]

I don't know where you get the idea that this issue goes way deeper and that there is clearly bad blood here and that I am out to get NedleyMandingo. I didn't have any opinion about him one way or the other, until he posted a positive review of a girl using obvious B&S pics. She may well turn out to be smokin hot and a great provider, but it doesn't change the fact that she is not the playboy playmate in the pics she posted. How you get I am out to get him is just plain stupid. She was caught using fake pics, he was caught vouching for the pics as being accurate. Thats the extent of it. He could have posted that he made a mistake and that she looks similar to the fake pics and it would have been done and over with. He chose to make it into a big deal by crying about it and posting his semi goodbye post.

I also didn't come on here to cry like a baby about the PMs he sent me saying some nasty crap including "GO FUCK YOURSELF". Hell I had one idiot PM me after I posted a negative review about Natalie and in the PM he told me to shoot myself in the face, I messaged him back and told him to go screw himself and put him on ignore.

How is it that I am a troll for outing a provider using fake pics and a member stating they are accurate?

So what are you saying, B&S pics are ok if a member says the providers hot, but not ok if she not very good looking? Thats some insane bag of worms.

One thing I laugh about when it comes to this site, is that 20 members will make similar posts about similar things and no one says a word. Then a post is made about one of the chosen special ones and the attacks dogs come out to attack the poster and defend the chosen one who screwed up to begin with. There are hundreds of posts outing providers using fake pics and tons of thanks from other members for that info. I posted about the fake pics and a member saying they are accurate when they are not and I am labeled a troll?

Pharma you go on to state, Look he's a respected senior, has hooked alot of mongers up, he says she smokin hot and a hell of a good time, be lucky for the intel. How or why would I trust the intel of a monger who vouches for the stolen pics of a provider as accurate? Especially with all the crap floating around about mongers posting fake positive reviews about providers just to get a discount or a freebie.

Lastly and the funniest part is that in her BP ad in the title line she sates "REAL PICS", yes they are real just not of her, all of her pics are real pics of Ciara Price. LOLI think he knows your all going to know this with one click of a button. The guy is not an idiot. I think it was innocent. I knew it wasn't her because he once stated. IT WASN'T HER. Not sure if it was a pm or where, but I have always known CLEARLY it wasnt her without having to look up her pics. Maybe he assumed that he had passed this info on and thought we already knew since he recommended her previously a few times. I agree he probably should have reconveyed the message, that's on him, but I thought you just kind burst in here ' look out, comin' in hot, breaker breaker fake pics!' Looked like you had a bit of an agenda. Lets just give the dude a chance to explain first before we jump, he's has been a great asset here.

Or maybe HE is just her pimp! LOL.

I'm sure Swag would agree!! Right KS?

Meds out.

[Admin2]

I redact my comment and you sir are the finest member in my book.

SavannaSwagger.You retract, I redact but if I could mix a metaphor; I smell what your cooking and I'm glad to hear it.

A2.

[Member #4697]

I lay low for a couple days and look what happens. Somebody else is getting trashed. At least the wheel keeps turning no matter what. Definitely great entertainment. Especially "ancientone" . He is the funniest guy or girl on here.

KC.

[Jazak]

I redact my comment and you sir are the finest member in my book.

SavannaSwagger.YEA! That's the Savanna I know, wild as Tiger! But sweet as soda pop!

[VerySlowly]

This slapping and defending of medley is all bullshit!

If a girl puts up a pic of Jenny McCarthy and she's really Tia Leone when I get there and her in-call is safe, clean and free of distraction's, and she provides an amazing session, who shiv's a git.

If the pics are reasonably close and the above happens, why all the pissing and moaning? Yes, I hear all the perfectionist tapes running in some of your heads, He should have told us this or should have said that, but bottom line is rarely do we catch a movie star, it happens, but rarely and personally I'm happy with a TV star.

If a guy has a habit of over promoting or bullshitting about escort girls and or massage girls that he has never seen, ahem, that is a different situation and A2 knows how to address that perfectly well and has done that recently.

I don't know nor have I Pm'd NedleyMandingo but we have mutual friends and I have seen some of his UTR's before they became public and have never been disappointed or lied to about his finds. Some guys have the ability to ferret out the truffles and others only have the ability to buy and eat them and the world needs them both to make the market work.

Many on here have complained about completely false or old pics on or ghetto locations with pimps or the-Boys hanging about the area here, or "dead fish" or cash +dash and that's a good thing if it saves you a bad experience. We need this information. Some guys NEVER bring forth a new girl others always are looking. We need everybody except the trolls on here, NMD is not a troll.

I don't think any of that is the case here. Apparently the pics were close and the dish was delicious even if Mario Battali wasn't in the kitchen.

G'day Blokes.

VS.

[AncientOne]

I lay low for a couple days and look what happens. Somebody else is getting trashed. At least the wheel keeps turning no matter what. Definitely great entertainment. Especially "ancientone" . He is the funniest guy or girl on here.

KC.To quote A2: "The entertainment value of your lunacy is invaluable". I know he was referring to Savanna Swag but I throw you into the mix too.

[Member #4697]

To quote A2: "The entertainment value of your lunacy is invaluable". I know he was referring to Savanna Swag but I throw you into the mix too.I appreciate you enjoying the entertainment I provide. Since everything on here is fictional anyway entertainment is the purpose.

KC.

[Mystical0945]

Listen up all my sexy board members, I recently have quite a few back and forth PM's with this beautiful vixen. From what I'm being told she is kinda justified in harboring ill feelings toward certain members of this fine forum. I didn't see the "Bat Shit Crazy" I saw a woman that had been treated in such a manner that NO ONE should be treated!

Savannah my love Karma is a ***** but sometimes it just takes too damn long to happen! Thanks for sharing with me, the only thing that leaves my lips of our conversation is what is written above. Unless YOU say it's okay. I'm that gal that believes "Loose lips sinks big ships. ".

Love to ALL.

Xoxo Ashley.

Play Safe BUT Always Play HARD.

[Camera3]

I always wanted to say that to a beautiful lady. OK. Actually, it is the limit on your inbox. Would you please erase some shit?

C3.


Listen up all my sexy board members, I recently have quite a few back and forth PM's with this beautiful vixen. From what I'm being told she is kinda justified in harboring ill feelings toward certain members of this fine forum. I didn't see the "Bat Shit Crazy" I saw a woman that had been treated in such a manner that NO ONE should be treated!

Savannah my love Karma is a ***** but sometimes it just takes too damn long to happen! Thanks for sharing with me, the only thing that leaves my lips of our conversation is what is written above. Unless YOU say it's okay. I'm that gal that believes "Loose lips sinks big ships. ".

Love to ALL.

Xoxo Ashley.

Play Safe BUT Always Play HARD.

[ThrowAwayToday]

This slapping and defending of medley is all bullshit!

If a girl puts up a pic of Jenny McCarthy and she's really Tia Leone when I get there and her in-call is safe, clean and free of distraction's, and she provides an amazing session, who shiv's a git.

If the pics are reasonably close and the above happens, why all the pissing and moaning? Yes, I hear all the perfectionist tapes running in some of your heads, He should have told us this or should have said that, but bottom line is rarely do we catch a movie star, it happens, but rarely and personally I'm happy with a TV star.

If a guy has a habit of over promoting or bullshitting about escort girls and or massage girls that he has never seen, ahem, that is a different situation and A2 knows how to address that perfectly well and has done that recently.

I don't know nor have I Pm'd NedleyMandingo but we have mutual friends and I have seen some of his UTR's before they became public and have never been disappointed or lied to about his finds. Some guys have the ability to ferret out the truffles and others only have the ability to buy and eat them and the world needs them both to make the market work.

Many on here have complained about completely false or old pics on or ghetto locations with pimps or the-Boys hanging about the area here, or "dead fish" or cash +dash and that's a good thing if it saves you a bad experience. We need this information. Some guys NEVER bring forth a new girl others always are looking. We need everybody except the trolls on here, NMD is not a troll.

I don't think any of that is the case here. Apparently the pics were close and the dish was delicious even if Mario Battali wasn't in the kitchen.

G'day Blokes.

VS.Who gives a shit if the pics are real or not? Really? Are you kidding?. It doesn't matter if the chick looks better then the pics the whole point of reviews is to get accurate information. This guy is a "senior" member and fails to mention the pics are fake. I don't see that as helping anybody. Its a betrayal to the forums. You guys would chew the shit out of some newbie that posted wrong / false information but its ok because this guy is has been around.

He wants to puss out because he got called out rather then be a man and admit it was a mistake not to mention she was using fake pictures.

[Mystical0945]

I always wanted to say that to a beautiful lady. OK. Actually, it is the limit on your inbox. Would you please erase some shit?

C3.Baby my "Box" is very clean!! LOL. Let the PM's begin.

Love to ALL.

Xoxo Ashley.

Play Safe BUT Always Play HARD.

[EndGame]

Who gives a shit if the pics are real or not? Really? Are you kidding?. It doesn't matter if the chick looks better then the pics the whole point of reviews is to get accurate information. This guy is a "senior" member and fails to mention the pics are fake. I don't see that as helping anybody. Its a betrayal to the forums. You guys would chew the shit out of some newbie that posted wrong / false information but its ok because this guy is has been around.

He wants to puss out because he got called out rather then be a man and admit it was a mistake not to mention she was using fake pictures.How about you be one and start reviewing women? So far your only reviews are of Nedley Mandingo.

[Member #4697]

Who gives a shit if the pics are real or not? Really? Are you kidding?. It doesn't matter if the chick looks better then the pics the whole point of reviews is to get accurate information. This guy is a "senior" member and fails to mention the pics are fake. I don't see that as helping anybody. Its a betrayal to the forums. You guys would chew the shit out of some newbie that posted wrong / false information but its ok because this guy is has been around.

He wants to puss out because he got called out rather then be a man and admit it was a mistake not to mention she was using fake pictures.Everybody is so quick to call out a new guy on anything. Making a spelling mistake! So if a SM gives fake intel or leaves out a pretty big detail then why shouldn't they be getting hell!

KC.

[CflMonger48]

I agree that you need to be careful with the information you give out. I will say that I have heard my share of stories about the Jag from a number of the girls, both on this site and on BP. I will keep these stories to myself but it is interesting to get the opinion of one of the self proclaimed "players" from the providers.

Be safe out there.


Sorry to see you in some drama Jazak but glad it's fixed. I will say jag uses girls and hounds them for information, my own personal experience and no I always said I'm not disclosing that. . What do they look like, what do they drive, where do they live What do they do, he knows everyone's real names. Even went as far to get another members home address and real name. Just be very cautious with what info you give out as it may not stay where you left it.

[Otwist]

I agree that you need to be careful with the information you give out. I will say that I have heard my share of stories about the Jag from a number of the girls, both on this site and on BP. I will keep these stories to myself but it is interesting to get the opinion of one of the self proclaimed "players" from the providers.

Be safe out there.I don't seek info about other mongers. When I am visiting a lady I am not interested in dicussing other guys. Why would any guy be asking about other dudes? I thought this site was to share info about women?

[CflMonger48]

I do not solicit the information, I am saying that when the girls ask if I am a member of USASG and I reply "yes", then they just start to tell me a story. The story is about other members they have met but a lot of stories seem to be about the Jag. Just be careful what you volunteer. I do not even tell them my handle or any other information that would allow them to identify me here on the site.

Be careful out there.


I don't seek info about other mongers. When I am visiting a lady I am not interested in dicussing other guys. Why would any guy be asking about other dudes? I thought this site was to share info about women?

[Otwist]

I do not solicit the information, I am saying that when the girls ask if I am a member of USASG and I reply "yes", then they just start to tell me a story. The story is about other members they have met but a lot of stories seem to be about the Jag. Just be careful what you volunteer. I do not even tell them my handle or any other information that would allow them to identify me here on the site.

Be careful out there.If USASG comes up I give out my handle no problem. I figure its a good way for the ladies to check me out. I know others like to play it closer to the vest than myself, but if the lady starts talking about other mongers, I usually try to change the subject as politely as possible. I am not really interested in other dudes. Some of the guys I PM with share info with me if they choose to do so and it remains private. Savanna has been know to share and post info about mongers and that I consider inappropriate. Any provider that wants to tell me about other guys has loose lips and is someone I would avoid. If she talks about other guys to you, she will talk to other guys about you. Also, lately some guys have started posting some personal info about themselves when an arguement / discussion arises and I think we should avoid doing that. No one needs to know our age, type of work history and the like. That, I keep close to the vest and have posted very little of that type of info in my 500+ posts.

[Ricky James1]

I always say no that I'm not a member, but I read the posts. Anonymity is a good policy for sure. Chick knows your screen name, she knows what you look like, she see your license plate, your car, maybe she goes through your wallet while you piss, gets your address, phone number, real name, puts all that together and next thing you know you're a prime candidate for some extortion and blackmail. Now, the overwhelming majority of girls aren't this vindictive unless you gave them a reason to be, but the chance for blackmail is always out there and I'm sure we all have run across a crazy loon or two who wouldn't think twice of setting you up.


I do not solicit the information, I am saying that when the girls ask if I am a member of USASG and I reply "yes", then they just start to tell me a story. The story is about other members they have met but a lot of stories seem to be about the Jag. Just be careful what you volunteer. I do not even tell them my handle or any other information that would allow them to identify me here on the site.

Be careful out there.

[Petroff]

In this scenario the fact that she has or not your screen name won't make any difference. Why would you bring your wallet to the room? Or your watch? And is not only the I'd the problem, also is credit cards, CCW, insurance cards, etc. Leave them in the car, just bring the keys and the exact amount of the donation, plus some extra in case you might want to tip. And never park the car in front of the room, walk a little, it's good for your health.


I always say no that I'm not a member, but I read the posts. Anonymity is a good policy for sure. Chick knows your screen name, she knows what you look like, she see your license plate, your car, maybe she goes through your wallet while you piss, gets your address, phone number, real name, puts all that together and next thing you know you're a prime candidate for some extortion and blackmail. Now, the overwhelming majority of girls aren't this vindictive unless you gave them a reason to be, but the chance for blackmail is always out there and I'm sure we all have run across a crazy loon or two who wouldn't think twice of setting you up.

[BuffGuy111]

I don't seek info about other mongers. When I am visiting a lady I am not interested in dicussing other guys. Why would any guy be asking about other dudes? I thought this site was to share info about women?But I have visited with some SP's who have told me so and so asked what I look like. Who cares really. All we are there to do is have a good dream. I never ask about another member because my mind is too focused on how I am about to dream with this hot piece. Also the safety of my surrounding is at the forefront as well.

My. 02.

BG111.

[Mystical0945]

I found this today and it made me think of the gentlemen that goes to see a provider that he is visually attracted to only to have her open the door as someone else. Forgive me if I offend anyone, I hope you find the same humor I did.

Love To ALL.

Xoxo Ashley.

Play Safe BUT Always Play HARD.

[DC248]

Was doing a reverse image search on a providers pic and this was the result:

340060

"Visually similar images" Apparently all these people have butt-faces. LOL.

[LuvInIt007]

In my short time in this hobby and with all due respect but who takes their wallet with all this personal info on a dream? Are you looking to get comprised or are you that trusting? Hence "007" I have been asked some very personal questions and answered very vaguely not to compromise my integrity or info. I respect the sp's privacy as much as my own. Have I seen a sp on the streets, in the mall, grocery store? Yes but just looked the other way. Just my 2 cents. Be safe brothers.


I always say no that I'm not a member, but I read the posts. Anonymity is a good policy for sure. Chick knows your screen name, she knows what you look like, she see your license plate, your car, maybe she goes through your wallet while you piss, gets your address, phone number, real name, puts all that together and next thing you know you're a prime candidate for some extortion and blackmail. Now, the overwhelming majority of girls aren't this vindictive unless you gave them a reason to be, but the chance for blackmail is always out there and I'm sure we all have run across a crazy loon or two who wouldn't think twice of setting you up.

[DC248]

I don't seek info about other mongers. When I am visiting a lady I am not interested in discussing other guys. Why would any guy be asking about other dudes? I thought this site was to share info about women?Agreed, I came here for the clams not the oysters! The only questions I could reasonably see any guy asking a provider about another monger would be:

1) Are you sure the guy you met is the same one from the forum?

2) Is he an asshole?

If he passes both, then he's verified monger in my book. Beyond those two yes or no questions, the less I know about my brother mongers the better.

In fact, that first question isn't even necessary if she's a forum-advertiser and acknowledges his review here on the open forum. As for the second question, well most assholes make themselves known without anyone's help.

[Tyrice24]

I don't seek info about other mongers. When I am visiting a lady I am not interested in dicussing other guys. Why would any guy be asking about other dudes? I thought this site was to share info about women?And this is through pm mail or text with the SP. That so and so recommended me to them. That about it.

[WilliamMstrs]

Agreed, I came here for the clams not the oysters! The only questions I could reasonably see any guy asking a provider about another monger would be:

1) Are you sure the guy you met is the same one from the forum?

2) Is he an asshole?

If he passes both, then he's verified monger in my book. Beyond those two yes or no questions, the less I know about my brother mongers the better.

In fact, that first question isn't even necessary if she's a forum-advertiser and acknowledges his review here on the open forum. As for the second question, well most assholes make themselves known without anyone's help.In my experience I have heard providers make mention of other mongers, their tricks, and tactics. While there is a crop of mongers who seem to try and get some sort of a discount by hook or crook, and tempted as I am to ask who it is, I do not. I came here to dream with ladies, review the dreams, and not mongers. I want to pretend I am the only cat snoring in that dream, even though I know there are twenty other cats ready to pounce once I leave.

Same goes for pm. Only info I care is the one that may place me, or any of us at risk.

Stay safe all!

[Camera3]

I have never asked nor will I ever ask a SP to lower her suggested donation. If we differ on what she is worth then I just walk away.

Now, SW's are a different story. Working the bargain is part of the sport.

Now, as the worlds oldest rodie I have been known to get some legal teenage head for slipping a young lady into backstage to meet the band. That's a whole different sport.

C3.


In my experience I have heard providers make mention of other mongers, their tricks, and tactics. While there is a crop of mongers who seem to try and get some sort of a discount by hook or crook, and tempted as I am to ask who it is, I do not. I came here to dream with ladies, review the dreams, and not mongers. I want to pretend I am the only cat snoring in that dream, even though I know there are twenty other cats ready to pounce once I leave.

Same goes for pm. Only info I care is the one that may place me, or any of us at risk.

Stay safe all!

[PharmaGuy]

In my experience I have heard providers make mention of other mongers, their tricks, and tactics. While there is a crop of mongers who seem to try and get some sort of a discount by hook or crook, and tempted as I am to ask who it is, I do not. I came here to dream with ladies, review the dreams, and not mongers. I want to pretend I am the only cat snoring in that dream, even though I know there are twenty other cats ready to pounce once I leave.

Same goes for pm. Only info I care is the one that may place me, or any of us at risk.

Stay safe all!There is not one single girl out there who knows my face to my handle.

That may change but I prefer to be anonymous. And only one girl knew I was a board member and that is ashley monroe.

[Mystical0945]

But I have visited with some SP's who have told me so and so asked what I look like. Who cares really. All we are there to do is have a good dream. I never ask about another member because my mind is too focused on how I am about to dream with this hot piece. Also the safety of my surrounding is at the forefront as well.

My. 02.

BG111.Attention to all I'm about to spill the beans. BuffGuys identity. Here we go. Wait for it wait for it. Sexy as hell!

Love to ALL.

Xoxo Ashley.

Play Safe BUT Always Play HARD.

[VerySlowly]

Who gives a shit if the pics are real or not? Really? Are you kidding?. It doesn't matter if the chick looks better then the pics the whole point of reviews is to get accurate information. This guy is a "senior" member and fails to mention the pics are fake. I don't see that as helping anybody. Its a betrayal to the forums. You guys would chew the shit out of some newbie that posted wrong / false information but its ok because this guy is has been around.

He wants to puss out because he got called out rather then be a man and admit it was a mistake not to mention she was using fake pictures.I love people who really analyze and think through the process instead of following the pack, unfortunately you are not one of them. Look up lemming and pedant or pedantic in the dictionary.

You remind me of people who convict someone based on what the newscasters report. I'm sure you are a former troll that had to change his handle, there are so many now I can't keep track, there are even guys posting patting themselves on the back, patting their old handle with several new handles. Yukk.

VS.

[VerySlowly]

Sorry to see you in some drama Jazak but glad it's fixed. I will say jag uses girls and hounds them for information, my own personal experience and no I always said I'm not disclosing that. . What do they look like, what do they drive, where do they live What do they do, he knows everyone's real names. Even went as far to get another members home address and real name. Just be very cautious with what info you give out as it may not stay where you left it.He's an X COP!

VS.

[Admin2]

Ladies we have added functionality to the new site, you can now choose to autopost ads. As long as you don't change them, they should go up right away. If you edit them (and you can from your control panel) then they go into my moderation queue.

You will note that the form now talks about paying extra but the prices should be set to $0.00 for everything so there's still no cost to the ads. This should cut down on your work. Once we start charging, when you fill that stuff in and click (purchase I think) it will take you to the processing page you would still have to fill that in before you were actually charged.

Yes I know some of you guys are having issues with the Captcha and we still have no fucking idea why 4 or 5 people are because we can't reproduce it. Once we are charging we will probably take the captcha away because money is still the most effective captcha ever.

You can message me with questions if you have any.

A2

[Jesse54]

There is not one single girl out there who knows my face to my handle.

That may change but I prefer to be anonymous. And only one girl knew I was a board member and that is ashley monroe.Richie you are one big rascal with tats that are sort of unique. Now that you are cleared where are you going to play ball next year? JK. While I have never gone out of my way to hide my username / face connection I can see where it could cause issues so perhaps I now see the err of my risky behavior. I have even slipped up with a couple that I got too comfortable with giving them a real name. Very rare to trust one that much. Stupidity for sure. As for the tag number I always thought it should be a common practice to park far away from wherever a dream is going to happen. If at a hotel not close to the room, back into a spot by a fence, tree, wall. This hides the tag a little and can help for a quick departure if necessary. I am paranoid and cautious especially on a first dream. Cheers Jesse.

[Admin2]

Note this is in blue:

Situation; A guy says a chick did a thing. She responds and says she didn't. He responds and says I know you do because you did it with me. She then copies in a PM where he specifically says they didn't do what he's saying they did in the forum.

First Problem; PM's are private and normally can't be posted.

Second Problem; As a rule chicks can't defend on the forum. (But they can on a thread like this)

My issue; It's a pretty big deal what they are talking about and she has proof positive (his own words) that it happened the way she said not what he said. I'm assuming, I would verify by looking in her inbox if she asked me to.

By simple yes let her or no don't let her. Let me know what you guys think about moving the post here with the screen shot of the PM.

Not saying I'm going to do what you guys vote for, but I'd like to get a sense of the room on this issue.

A2

[DreamForever69]

Note this is in blue:

Situation; A guy says a chick did a thing. She responds and says she didn't. He responds and says I know you do because you did it with me. She then copies in a PM where he specifically says they didn't do what he's saying they did in the forum.

First Problem; PM's are private and normally can't be posted.

Second Problem; As a rule chicks can't defend on the forum. (But they can on a thread like this)

My issue; It's a pretty big deal what they are talking about and she has proof positive (his own words) that it happened the way she said not what he said. I'm assuming, I would verify by looking in her inbox if she asked me to.

By simple yes let her or no don't let her. Let me know what you guys think about moving the post here with the screen shot of the PM.

Not saying I'm going to do what you guys vote for, but I'd like to get a sense of the room on this issue.

A2Definitely post the PM, so we can settle this once and for all about his { so called } 100 % accuracy.

[JerseyGirl]

Note this is in blue:

Situation; A guy says a chick did a thing. She responds and says she didn't. He responds and says I know you do because you did it with me. She then copies in a PM where he specifically says they didn't do what he's saying they did in the forum.

First Problem; PM's are private and normally can't be posted.

Second Problem; As a rule chicks can't defend on the forum. (But they can on a thread like this)

My issue; It's a pretty big deal what they are talking about and she has proof positive (his own words) that it happened the way she said not what he said. I'm assuming, I would verify by looking in her inbox if she asked me to.

By simple yes let her or no don't let her. Let me know what you guys think about moving the post here with the screen shot of the PM.

Not saying I'm going to do what you guys vote for, but I'd like to get a sense of the room on this issue.

A2But first let me take a selfie.

[BuffGuy111]

Attention to all I'm about to spill the beans. BuffGuys identity. Here we go. Wait for it wait for it. Sexy as hell!

Love to ALL.

Xoxo Ashley.

Play Safe BUT Always Play HARD.Flattery will get you everywhere! Watch yourself now!

BG111.

[Member #5141]

Note this is in blue:

Situation; A guy says a chick did a thing. She responds and says she didn't. He responds and says I know you do because you did it with me. She then copies in a PM where he specifically says they didn't do what he's saying they did in the forum.

First Problem; PM's are private and normally can't be posted.

Second Problem; As a rule chicks can't defend on the forum. (But they can on a thread like this)

My issue; It's a pretty big deal what they are talking about and she has proof positive (his own words) that it happened the way she said not what he said. I'm assuming, I would verify by looking in her inbox if she asked me to.

By simple yes let her or no don't let her. Let me know what you guys think about moving the post here with the screen shot of the PM.

Not saying I'm going to do what you guys vote for, but I'd like to get a sense of the room on this issue.

A2Seems like a private realm that shouldn't be open to the forum.

[Camera3]

Protect the honor of the lady and expose the moron.

Hopefully, just the threat of exposing would cause him to back off and play fair.

C3.


Note this is in blue:

Situation; A guy says a chick did a thing. She responds and says she didn't. He responds and says I know you do because you did it with me. She then copies in a PM where he specifically says they didn't do what he's saying they did in the forum.

First Problem; PM's are private and normally can't be posted.

Second Problem; As a rule chicks can't defend on the forum. (But they can on a thread like this)

My issue; It's a pretty big deal what they are talking about and she has proof positive (his own words) that it happened the way she said not what he said. I'm assuming, I would verify by looking in her inbox if she asked me to.

By simple yes let her or no don't let her. Let me know what you guys think about moving the post here with the screen shot of the PM.

Not saying I'm going to do what you guys vote for, but I'd like to get a sense of the room on this issue.

A2

[Quilino]

Note this is in blue:

Situation; A guy says a chick did a thing. She responds and says she didn't. He responds and says I know you do because you did it with me. She then copies in a PM where he specifically says they didn't do what he's saying they did in the forum.

First Problem; PM's are private and normally can't be posted.

Second Problem; As a rule chicks can't defend on the forum. (But they can on a thread like this)

My issue; It's a pretty big deal what they are talking about and she has proof positive (his own words) that it happened the way she said not what he said. I'm assuming, I would verify by looking in her inbox if she asked me to.

By simple yes let her or no don't let her. Let me know what you guys think about moving the post here with the screen shot of the PM.

Not saying I'm going to do what you guys vote for, but I'd like to get a sense of the room on this issue.

A2If it's a Rat Trap issue, definitely.

[Quilino]

Note this is in blue:

Situation; A guy says a chick did a thing. She responds and says she didn't. He responds and says I know you do because you did it with me. She then copies in a PM where he specifically says they didn't do what he's saying they did in the forum.

First Problem; PM's are private and normally can't be posted.

Second Problem; As a rule chicks can't defend on the forum. (But they can on a thread like this)

My issue; It's a pretty big deal what they are talking about and she has proof positive (his own words) that it happened the way she said not what he said. I'm assuming, I would verify by looking in her inbox if she asked me to.

By simple yes let her or no don't let her. Let me know what you guys think about moving the post here with the screen shot of the PM.

Not saying I'm going to do what you guys vote for, but I'd like to get a sense of the room on this issue.

A2If it's a Rat Trap issue, definitely.

[Just Cruzin]

If this is what I am thinking this is about, fairness to the young woman should be given in this situation.


Note this is in blue:

Situation; A guy says a chick did a thing. She responds and says she didn't. He responds and says I know you do because you did it with me. She then copies in a PM where he specifically says they didn't do what he's saying they did in the forum.

First Problem; PM's are private and normally can't be posted.

Second Problem; As a rule chicks can't defend on the forum. (But they can on a thread like this)

My issue; It's a pretty big deal what they are talking about and she has proof positive (his own words) that it happened the way she said not what he said. I'm assuming, I would verify by looking in her inbox if she asked me to.

By simple yes let her or no don't let her. Let me know what you guys think about moving the post here with the screen shot of the PM.

Not saying I'm going to do what you guys vote for, but I'd like to get a sense of the room on this issue.

A2

[NephriteJade]

Note this is in blue:

Situation; A guy says a chick did a thing. She responds and says she didn't. He responds and says I know you do because you did it with me. She then copies in a PM where he specifically says they didn't do what he's saying they did in the forum.

First Problem; PM's are private and normally can't be posted.

Second Problem; As a rule chicks can't defend on the forum. (But they can on a thread like this)

My issue; It's a pretty big deal what they are talking about and she has proof positive (his own words) that it happened the way she said not what he said. I'm assuming, I would verify by looking in her inbox if she asked me to.

By simple yes let her or no don't let her. Let me know what you guys think about moving the post here with the screen shot of the PM.

Not saying I'm going to do what you guys vote for, but I'd like to get a sense of the room on this issue.

A2Post the evidence and settle the he said she said.

[Jesse54]

Note this is in blue:

Situation; A guy says a chick did a thing. She responds and says she didn't. He responds and says I know you do because you did it with me. She then copies in a PM where he specifically says they didn't do what he's saying they did in the forum.

First Problem; PM's are private and normally can't be posted.

Second Problem; As a rule chicks can't defend on the forum. (But they can on a thread like this)

My issue; It's a pretty big deal what they are talking about and she has proof positive (his own words) that it happened the way she said not what he said. I'm assuming, I would verify by looking in her inbox if she asked me to.

By simple yes let her or no don't let her. Let me know what you guys think about moving the post here with the screen shot of the PM.

Not saying I'm going to do what you guys vote for, but I'd like to get a sense of the room on this issue.

A2IMHO I like others say YES, perhaps it can help stop others from BS. Let the big dog eat. My. 02. J54.

[DC248]

Note this is in blue:

Situation; A guy says a chick did a thing. She responds and says she didn't. He responds and says I know you do because you did it with me. She then copies in a PM where he specifically says they didn't do what he's saying they did in the forum.

First Problem; PM's are private and normally can't be posted.

Second Problem; As a rule chicks can't defend on the forum. (But they can on a thread like this)

My issue; It's a pretty big deal what they are talking about and she has proof positive (his own words) that it happened the way she said not what he said. I'm assuming, I would verify by looking in her inbox if she asked me to.

By simple yes let her or no don't let her. Let me know what you guys think about moving the post here with the screen shot of the PM.

Not saying I'm going to do what you guys vote for, but I'd like to get a sense of the room on this issue.

A2So long as you're able to verify the contents of the PM haven't been altered in the screenshot.

[PaigeSweetStuf]

Bullshit compromises the safety of ALL on here, very uncool. It throws all credibility out the window. Clear the air, especially if this bs came from a TRUSTED senior member.

Blow that asshole out of the water, it isn't just about the girl defending herself. Its about safety for all involved. Plus that isn't cool for someone to purposely try to defame someones name intentionally with malice. So expose this douchebag for what he is. Then we ALL know 100% that he is untrustworthy. This is call the rat trap, if you got the cheese a2, let the rat be exposed.

Maybe this will make others stirring the pot or just running their mouth think twice. I love this forum and the members but as of late there has been a few rotten apples that have been ruining the bunch.

Xoxo.

Paige.


Note this is in blue:

Situation; A guy says a chick did a thing. She responds and says she didn't. He responds and says I know you do because you did it with me. She then copies in a PM where he specifically says they didn't do what he's saying they did in the forum.

First Problem; PM's are private and normally can't be posted.

Second Problem; As a rule chicks can't defend on the forum. (But they can on a thread like this)

My issue; It's a pretty big deal what they are talking about and she has proof positive (his own words) that it happened the way she said not what he said. I'm assuming, I would verify by looking in her inbox if she asked me to.

By simple yes let her or no don't let her. Let me know what you guys think about moving the post here with the screen shot of the PM.

Not saying I'm going to do what you guys vote for, but I'd like to get a sense of the room on this issue.

A2

[Jazak]

Note this is in blue:

Situation; A guy says a chick did a thing. She responds and says she didn't. He responds and says I know you do because you did it with me. She then copies in a PM where he specifically says they didn't do what he's saying they did in the forum.

First Problem; PM's are private and normally can't be posted.

Second Problem; As a rule chicks can't defend on the forum. (But they can on a thread like this)

My issue; It's a pretty big deal what they are talking about and she has proof positive (his own words) that it happened the way she said not what he said. I'm assuming, I would verify by looking in her inbox if she asked me to.

By simple yes let her or no don't let her. Let me know what you guys think about moving the post here with the screen shot of the PM.

Not saying I'm going to do what you guys vote for, but I'd like to get a sense of the room on this issue.

A2I say yes, weed them out!

[FLAdventurer]

Yes!

The truth shall set you free.

[Member #4697]

Note this is in blue:

Situation; A guy says a chick did a thing. She responds and says she didn't. He responds and says I know you do because you did it with me. She then copies in a PM where he specifically says they didn't do what he's saying they did in the forum.

First Problem; PM's are private and normally can't be posted.

Second Problem; As a rule chicks can't defend on the forum. (But they can on a thread like this)

My issue; It's a pretty big deal what they are talking about and she has proof positive (his own words) that it happened the way she said not what he said. I'm assuming, I would verify by looking in her inbox if she asked me to.

By simple yes let her or no don't let her. Let me know what you guys think about moving the post here with the screen shot of the PM.

Not saying I'm going to do what you guys vote for, but I'd like to get a sense of the room on this issue.

A2Let's start weeding out the actual losers on here instead of trying to unknowingly blame people for stupid shit.

[Tyrice24]

Note this is in blue

Yes let all out. It time to hear the truth. I think I know who you talking about to.

Situation; A guy says a chick did a thing. She responds and says she didn't. He responds and says I know you do because you did it with me. She then copies in a PM where he specifically says they didn't do what he's saying they did in the forum.

First Problem; PM's are private and normally can't be posted.

Second Problem; As a rule chicks can't defend on the forum. (But they can on a thread like this)

My issue; It's a pretty big deal what they are talking about and she has proof positive (his own words) that it happened the way she said not what he said. I'm assuming, I would verify by looking in her inbox if she asked me to.

By simple yes let her or no don't let her. Let me know what you guys think about moving the post here with the screen shot of the PM.

Not saying I'm going to do what you guys vote for, but I'd like to get a sense of the room on this issue.

A2Yes let it all out and I think I know who you talking about.

[ThrowAwayToday]

I love people who really analyze and think through the process instead of following the pack, unfortunately you are not one of them. Look up lemming and pedant or pedantic in the dictionary.

You remind me of people who convict someone based on what the newscasters report. I'm sure you are a former troll that had to change his handle, there are so many now I can't keep track, there are even guys posting patting themselves on the back, patting their old handle with several new handles. Yukk.

VS.Ok white knight. You senior members flock to suck each others dick all the time. Been going on for years. You guys literally team up on everyone that doesn't agree with you. This guy was obviously 100% wrong in not telling us the pics were fake. Yet here you are defending that? Amazing. Maybe you will get some brownie points somewhere? With someone?

Also if you could read I blatantly said in a post not just one page before this I was a troll who was banned. I have nothing to hide fuck you.

[ThrowAwayToday]

Note this is in blue:

Situation; A guy says a chick did a thing. She responds and says she didn't. He responds and says I know you do because you did it with me. She then copies in a PM where he specifically says they didn't do what he's saying they did in the forum.

First Problem; PM's are private and normally can't be posted.

Second Problem; As a rule chicks can't defend on the forum. (But they can on a thread like this)

My issue; It's a pretty big deal what they are talking about and she has proof positive (his own words) that it happened the way she said not what he said. I'm assuming, I would verify by looking in her inbox if she asked me to.

By simple yes let her or no don't let her. Let me know what you guys think about moving the post here with the screen shot of the PM.

Not saying I'm going to do what you guys vote for, but I'd like to get a sense of the room on this issue.

A2I mean if its a health issue by all means it should be posted. If its some bullshit drama like she let me do this to her bootihole then I don't think its really that important.

[Otwist]

Note this is in blue:

Situation; A guy says a chick did a thing. She responds and says she didn't. He responds and says I know you do because you did it with me. She then copies in a PM where he specifically says they didn't do what he's saying they did in the forum.

First Problem; PM's are private and normally can't be posted.

Second Problem; As a rule chicks can't defend on the forum. (But they can on a thread like this)

My issue; It's a pretty big deal what they are talking about and she has proof positive (his own words) that it happened the way she said not what he said. I'm assuming, I would verify by looking in her inbox if she asked me to.

By simple yes let her or no don't let her. Let me know what you guys think about moving the post here with the screen shot of the PM.

Not saying I'm going to do what you guys vote for, but I'd like to get a sense of the room on this issue.

A2Always vote for the truth.

[PharmaGuy]

Is what I agree with, right my love?

Meds out.

[Otwist]

A very senior monger posting personal info on the board about another monger is uncool even if it in the rat trap. That is one thing that is bad about the rat trap, the rats are coming out again. I liked it better when the rat was hiding in his hole, especially if the info is not correct and is just a cheap shot.

[Jazak]

But first let me take a selfie.Jersey Girl I've never met you but I like your personality, That's a couple funny ones you posted on here now. I guess some day I should cum see what your all about. Got a couple fires a got a put out first though.

[Whiskeysours]

Note this is in blue:

Situation; A guy says a chick did a thing. She responds and says she didn't. He responds and says I know you do because you did it with me. She then copies in a PM where he specifically says they didn't do what he's saying they did in the forum.

First Problem; PM's are private and normally can't be posted.

Second Problem; As a rule chicks can't defend on the forum. (But they can on a thread like this)

My issue; It's a pretty big deal what they are talking about and she has proof positive (his own words) that it happened the way she said not what he said. I'm assuming, I would verify by looking in her inbox if she asked me to.

By simple yes let her or no don't let her. Let me know what you guys think about moving the post here with the screen shot of the PM.

Not saying I'm going to do what you guys vote for, but I'd like to get a sense of the room on this issue.

A2But not out of some ridiculous notion like defending a provider's honor. Let's not get it twisted, these ladies charge money to fuck, lick, rim, and blow. Not much honor involved. It's a business. That said, post the PM in question, especially if it's from a SM. It'll serve as a warning to other bullshitters, and will let the mongers decide if the poster should be believed about anything.

[Brevard Newbie]

Definitely yes A2. We need accountibility on this issue.


Note this is in blue:

Situation; A guy says a chick did a thing. She responds and says she didn't. He responds and says I know you do because you did it with me. She then copies in a PM where he specifically says they didn't do what he's saying they did in the forum.

First Problem; PM's are private and normally can't be posted.

Second Problem; As a rule chicks can't defend on the forum. (But they can on a thread like this)

My issue; It's a pretty big deal what they are talking about and she has proof positive (his own words) that it happened the way she said not what he said. I'm assuming, I would verify by looking in her inbox if she asked me to.

By simple yes let her or no don't let her. Let me know what you guys think about moving the post here with the screen shot of the PM.

Not saying I'm going to do what you guys vote for, but I'd like to get a sense of the room on this issue.

A2

[JerseyGirl]

But first let me take a selfie.Ok A2 let's have the low down.

[VerySlowly]

Ok white knight. You senior members flock to suck each others dick all the time. Been going on for years. You guys literally team up on everyone that doesn't agree with you. This guy was obviously 100% wrong in not telling us the pics were fake. Yet here you are defending that? Amazing. Maybe you will get some brownie points somewhere? With someone?

Also if you could read I blatantly said in a post not just one page before this I was a troll who was banned. I have nothing to hide fuck you.Sorry I missed that, probably because I pay very little attention to low post counts even if they brag about mongering for years and years.

But thank you for reminding us YOU ARE A TROLL in which case anything you say, can and will be dismissed as blather.

Take your tongue and put it back up your ass where it belongs!

VS.

[AncientOne]

There may be some SM's who take issue with the PROLIFIC writer and reviewer. Jag. You can now easily ignore what he has to say by just not clicking on his Sandbox but to slam him here in the Rat Trap without good reason is just unfair. I would expect it out of bat shit crazy Savanna but not from the Longest Posting Fat Boy, VS. I challenge any of you mongers to be a fraction as active AND share the INTEL as Jag likes to do. The dude is an asset to this Orlando Monger community. A2 must also agree with my assessment since he gave Jag his very own thread. I don't see a Very Slowly thread.

[JerseyGirl]

There may be some SM's who take issue with the PROLIFIC writer and reviewer. Jag. You can now easily ignore what he has to say by just not clicking on his Sandbox but to slam him here in the Rat Trap without good reason is just unfair. I would expect it out of bat shit crazy Savanna but not from the Longest Posting Fat Boy, VS. I challenge any of you mongers to be a fraction as active AND share the INTEL as Jag likes to do. The dude is an asset to this Orlando Monger community. A2 must also agree with my assessment since he gave Jag his very own thread. I don't see a Very Slowly thread.Wait for it, wait for it. Let him have it A2.

[DreamForever69]

There may be some SM's who take issue with the PROLIFIC writer and reviewer. Jag. You can now easily ignore what he has to say by just not clicking on his Sandbox but to slam him here in the Rat Trap without good reason is just unfair. I would expect it out of bat shit crazy Savanna but not from the Longest Posting Fat Boy, VS. I challenge any of you mongers to be a fraction as active AND share the INTEL as Jag likes to do. The dude is an asset to this Orlando Monger community. A2 must also agree with my assessment since he gave Jag his very own thread. I don't see a Very Slowly thread.But if its BS its not very good Intel now us it.

[LawDog17]

Note this is in blue:

Situation; A guy says a chick did a thing. She responds and says she didn't. He responds and says I know you do because you did it with me. She then copies in a PM where he specifically says they didn't do what he's saying they did in the forum.

First Problem; PM's are private and normally can't be posted.

Second Problem; As a rule chicks can't defend on the forum. (But they can on a thread like this)

My issue; It's a pretty big deal what they are talking about and she has proof positive (his own words) that it happened the way she said not what he said. I'm assuming, I would verify by looking in her inbox if she asked me to.

By simple yes let her or no don't let her. Let me know what you guys think about moving the post here with the screen shot of the PM.

Not saying I'm going to do what you guys vote for, but I'd like to get a sense of the room on this issue.

A2I'm a little late to the party but I am pretty sure we will never weed out the bullshit on here. Guys will always exagerate. My cock is really huge. I agree with whomever said, if it is a health or safety issue then yes go ahead. Not a fan of the principal of airing PM's as there is an expectation of privacy. What if the message on the PM was a lie just to try to diffuse the issue? What is the context of one PM, do we need to see others? How far does it go? Where does it end? Honor and reputation are earned on this board and in life by our actions, our words and our deeds. One says he did x and the other says no you didn't. Does it matter beyond the actual immediate nature of the context of the message? Does it transcend their conversation and effect the rest of the group? Just because I said I put two fingers in a girls butt when I actually put one, technically makes me a liar but in reality no one really cares. It harms no one, it lessens none of my already sketchy credibility. But if I say I raw dogged analed someone and they say I didn't, then I am liar and potentially super unsafe which may impact the target of my lie. Itt may hurt her business or make others stay away. Do we (as a board, a community, a village), owe it to ourselves, each other, to find out the truth and proclaim who is being honest. I think we do, if it is that kind of serious. If it just involves a finger in the butt then we shouldn't give another minute of thought. -- Dog.

[PharmaGuy]

Big f'ing deal, any guy that hasn't sleep with that someone could easily make that mistake.

You see what I did?

[Barolo]

Note this is in blue:

Situation; A guy says a chick did a thing. She responds and says she didn't. He responds and says I know you do because you did it with me. She then copies in a PM where he specifically says they didn't do what he's saying they did in the forum.

First Problem; PM's are private and normally can't be posted.

Second Problem; As a rule chicks can't defend on the forum. (But they can on a thread like this)

My issue; It's a pretty big deal what they are talking about and she has proof positive (his own words) that it happened the way she said not what he said. I'm assuming, I would verify by looking in her inbox if she asked me to.

By simple yes let her or no don't let her. Let me know what you guys think about moving the post here with the screen shot of the PM.

Not saying I'm going to do what you guys vote for, but I'd like to get a sense of the room on this issue.

A2The truth!

[AncientOne]

Note this is in blue:

Situation; A guy says a chick did a thing. She responds and says she didn't. He responds and says I know you do because you did it with me. She then copies in a PM where he specifically says they didn't do what he's saying they did in the forum.

First Problem; PM's are private and normally can't be posted.

Second Problem; As a rule chicks can't defend on the forum. (But they can on a thread like this)

My issue; It's a pretty big deal what they are talking about and she has proof positive (his own words) that it happened the way she said not what he said. I'm assuming, I would verify by looking in her inbox if she asked me to.

By simple yes let her or no don't let her. Let me know what you guys think about moving the post here with the screen shot of the PM.

Not saying I'm going to do what you guys vote for, but I'd like to get a sense of the room on this issue.

A2No I am not a lawyer but I stayed in a Holiday Inn Express last night. IMHO when you delve into and divulge the contents of PM's, especially to JUST settle a "he said / she said" issue, it opens the door to NSA or Big Brother type of abuse. Its a slippery slope as in "we did it once we can do it again". Would ruin the credibility of this board, A2, and would make guys (certainly ME) hesitant to consider PM's a sanctuary that it currently is. I can see if there was a murder or assault to prove but a "he said / she said"???? Wake up A2, you have a responsibility to keep the sanctity of PRIVATE Messaging. PRIVATE!

[MoreMike147]

Note this is in blue:

Situation; A guy says a chick did a thing. She responds and says she didn't. He responds and says I know you do because you did it with me. She then copies in a PM where he specifically says they didn't do what he's saying they did in the forum.

First Problem; PM's are private and normally can't be posted.

Second Problem; As a rule chicks can't defend on the forum. (But they can on a thread like this)

My issue; It's a pretty big deal what they are talking about and she has proof positive (his own words) that it happened the way she said not what he said. I'm assuming, I would verify by looking in her inbox if she asked me to.

By simple yes let her or no don't let her. Let me know what you guys think about moving the post here with the screen shot of the PM.

Not saying I'm going to do what you guys vote for, but I'd like to get a sense of the room on this issue.

A2I do not think you should post it. I believe she should let you read it. Then you give us the answer. You are the admin. Your word should be law.

And you do not want people thinking you are reading their pms.

[MoreMike147]

I'm a little late to the party but I am pretty sure we will never weed out the bullshit on here. Guys will always exagerate. My cock is really huge. I agree with whomever said, if it is a health or safety issue then yes go ahead. Not a fan of the principal of airing PM's as there is an expectation of privacy. What if the message on the PM was a lie just to try to diffuse the issue? What is the context of one PM, do we need to see others? How far does it go? Where does it end? Honor and reputation are earned on this board and in life by our actions, our words and our deeds. One says he did x and the other says no you didn't. Does it matter beyond the actual immediate nature of the context of the message? Does it transcend their conversation and effect the rest of the group? Just because I said I put two fingers in a girls butt when I actually put one, technically makes me a liar but in reality no one really cares. It harms no one, it lessens none of my already sketchy credibility. But if I say I raw dogged analed someone and they say I didn't, then I am liar and potentially super unsafe which may impact the target of my lie. Itt may hurt her business or make others stay away. Do we (as a board, a community, a village), owe it to ourselves, each other, to find out the truth and proclaim who is being honest. I think we do, if it is that kind of serious. If it just involves a finger in the butt then we shouldn't give another minute of thought. -- Dog.Best answer! My cock is huge BTW.

[AncientOne]

I feel so strongly about keeping Private Messaging PRIVATE that I offer my retirement from this USAG web site if private messages are made public. Life will go on and I will find my mongering elsewhere. Maybe I will revive the Big Doggie Web site as a viable competitor of USAG as I was the VS of that site but skinner and better looking, certainly younger.

[PaigeSweetStuf]

Here is where it is catch 22. The accused can lie in public and possibly hurt the business of the provider, who this is their livelihood, feed themselves, put a roof over a family, themselves thru school, or whatever, but privately speak the truth?? Come on now.

I am not taking sides but in all fairness I think that if it violates safety or health issues that it should be outed. The person who decided to fess up privately has no balls so why not? Oh they can blast in public but not fess up in public. Thats bullshit. If the person hadn't lied to begin with none of this would be in question.

Shit everyone was on nedley's back about picture accuracy. Until he didn't exactly word something right about pics his intel and info were of great value to the board, often one to TOFTT, and give solid feedback. This is bigger than that. This compromising safety and reputation. And you can spew oh providers they shouldn't fet respect they sell their body, but if there wasn't demand it wouldn't be happening. I pride myself on mutual respect and discretion. Something I see a few not doing and its sad.

Personally I think the accused should just fess up, save face, and it be over with. Everyone makes mistakes and no one is perfect.

Stay safe everyone.

Xoxo.

Paige.

[Nohassles]

We all know a lot of bullshit passes through these pages and we each have to finally make our decisions based on our interpretations of what we read. If A2 gets in the business of attempting to correct misinformation he is going to be one very busy dude. I like him just the way he is. And I like pm's to be private.

[Dixie Prowler]

Have to agree with Ancient one on his post. When you start posting private messeges alot of hobbyists will have their shit in the wind. Why even have pms if everybody is going to read them. You might have a mass exodus from this site. I totally agree with AO. Who really cares if ever so often you have a he said, she said type of argumen. Please A2 do not do it. Be safe.

[Admin2]

you do not want people thinking you are reading their pms.


Wake up A2, you have a responsibility to keep the sanctity of PRIVATE Messaging. PRIVATE!Of course we have ACCESS to PM's, they are sitting on our server. As a matter of principle we rarely ever look at them and only under very specific circumstances. We are a bunch of libertarians and one apathetic down here. (I'm the Apathetic, it's a new political party I'm starting) Hell we even developed a tool to scan PM's for particular phrases so that everything else would be ignored, which is hard for a person to do. (the name of a competing web site that likes to use our PM system for membership drives and phrases like "Kill you" or "I'm gonna fucking kill you" or "You're a dead motherfucker" shit like that.) In the case of the new web site that lots of you guys have gotten PM's from saying I'm a big meanie and you can go there, what I'm looking for is the nexus, the guy who has their name in several hundred PM's not the guys with one. They are answering his PM. For the guy with the hundreds I just ban the user name. The server does the "reading" not us. In the "I'm gonna fucking kill you" kind I do look at them, I don't really read them, I don't look at them for content I generally look at them to confirm what somebody has already told me. "This douchebag is sending me PM's saying he's going to kill me."

There are rules in the forum, you guys accept those rules when you join, one of them is to not threaten people. Just because the threat is in a PM, doesn't mean it's not on the forum. If something like that was happening and I didn't do what I could (ban the user) and something actually happened, I would find it difficult to sleep at night.


A2 must also agree with my assessment since he gave Jag his very own thread.All I really want to say to that is you have been misinformed.

A2

[Potsy]

This slapping and defending of medley is all bullshit!

If a girl puts up a pic of Jenny McCarthy and she's really Tia Leone when I get there and her in-call is safe, clean and free of distraction's, and she provides an amazing session, who shiv's a git.

If the pics are reasonably close and the above happens, why all the pissing and moaning? Yes, I hear all the perfectionist tapes running in some of your heads, He should have told us this or should have said that, but bottom line is rarely do we catch a movie star, it happens, but rarely and personally I'm happy with a TV star.

If a guy has a habit of over promoting or bullshitting about escort girls and or massage girls that he has never seen, ahem, that is a different situation and A2 knows how to address that perfectly well and has done that recently.

I don't know nor have I Pm'd NedleyMandingo but we have mutual friends and I have seen some of his UTR's before they became public and have never been disappointed or lied to about his finds. Some guys have the ability to ferret out the truffles and others only have the ability to buy and eat them and the world needs them both to make the market work.

Many on here have complained about completely false or old pics on or ghetto locations with pimps or the-Boys hanging about the area here, or "dead fish" or cash +dash and that's a good thing if it saves you a bad experience. We need this information. Some guys NEVER bring forth a new girl others always are looking. We need everybody except the trolls on here, NMD is not a troll.

I don't think any of that is the case here. Apparently the pics were close and the dish was delicious even if Mario Battali wasn't in the kitchen.

G'day Blokes.

VS.OK VS you say its ok to post B&S pics as long as they are close or the session was good, who gives a shit? And you are happy with a TV star?

OK lets use your analogy. So lets say a provider posts fake pics and / or a monger vouches for her pics as very accurate or accurate.

So you go and see the provider and its not the girl in the pics but she looks like Leonards girlfriend Penny on the Big Bang Theory, pretty hot girl, so in your world its all good since you are happy with a good looking TV star. So the B&S is OK.

OK, same scenario, you arrive at her place and are met by a girl that looks like Sheldons girlfriend Amy, from the Big Bang Theory. Not the hottie you expected but a TV star, so is that B&S ok? Based on your statements, you should be fine with it. Not even close to the hot girl in the B&S pics, but based on your statement it should be acceptable. I highly doubt you would be fine with it, and if you say you would, you would be lying.

OK, same scenario, you arrive at her place and are met by a girl that looks like Howards girlfriend Bernadette, from the same show. Not the girl in the B&S pics but a TV star, so is this acceptable to you? I doubt it. She is not as hot as the girl in the fake pics, not as hot as Penny but better looking then AMY. So based on your excuse for using fake pics or a monger vouching for fake pics all 3 scenarios I laid out should be acceptable to you. Screw the fact the pics are fake, 1 girls hot, ones pretty hot and one not so much.

So tell me, where do you draw the line at using fake B&S pics? Would Penny be ok as the real girl you meet? Amy acceptable? How about Bernadette?

When you try and justify someone using fake B&S pics by saying who cares as long as she's hot and that you would be happy with a TV star, I just laid out 3 scenarios for you, that based on what you have said, each one should be acceptable with you and the use of fake B&S pics to lure you to see these 3 different girls in your world is perfectly fine.

Thats an impossible line to justify Fake pics and vouching for someone who is using fake pics is just wrong. Trying to rationalize it by saying well she was close enough to the B&S pics is a straw argument as everyone's CLOSE ENOUGH is different.

As for me I was spending $30 to $50 a month in gas money alone for a while, seeing girls posting hot pics, or meeting a girl based on a mongers claim that the girl is real, only to meet them in person and find out the pics are B&S and the monger was full of it. Then once your there the usual BS starts. The girl swears the pics in the ad are really her, and the excuses begin: Yeah I just cut and dyed my hair yesterday, Oh the tats I have in the ad?, Oh I had them medically removed last week, Oh my eye colors different? I was wearing colored contacts in the pics. Then when you try and leave theres always that 50/50 chance she is going to demand her donation anyway and tell you how her boys are going to jack you up if you try and leave without giving her money, even though you tried to leave within 2 minutes of getting there and you realizing her pics are fake.

I am too tired of the bullshit. If a provider posts fake pics and I go see her, once I walk in and realize her pics are fake, I leave, no matter what the little head is saying. If you can't see why some mongers don't like the idea of a provider using fake pics and a monger vouching for them, then that's your deal. As for me it pisses me off, as its a waste of my time and money.

Lastly, did I see you posting in the rat trap that someone is an ex cop? Isn't that the 4th or fifth time over the last several years that you have accused a monger of either being a cop, an ex cop, LEO or something to that effect?

[Ccon66]

If BOTH of them agree to it, then I wouldn't have a problem with A2 inspecting the message and making a determination. Under no circumstances should the message be posted for all to see.

[Quilino]

We already had a precedent (maybe a bad one) where a pissed off provider (rightly or wrongly) posted a member's PM publicly on BP. So it's not like it's impossible to put the information out there. I think it would be naive for anyone to expect complete secrecy in this day and age in any electronic medium. That being the case, if A2 felt the issue was worth settling by letting it go public, I personally would have no problem with it. This would be keeping the matter in-house where it belongs. My 2 cents.

[Sillyolman]

I think if the conversation involves peoples safety then we owe it to each other to find the correct answer. Publishing PM's? Ancient makes an excellent point. This is 2014, A2 is a smart guy. There has to be a way to get to the bottom of something without publishing PM's.

[Member #4697]

No I am not a lawyer but I stayed in a Holiday Inn Express last night. IMHO when you delve into and divulge the contents of PM's, especially to JUST settle a "he said / she said" issue, it opens the door to NSA or Big Brother type of abuse. Its a slippery slope as in "we did it once we can do it again". Would ruin the credibility of this board, A2, and would make guys (certainly ME) hesitant to consider PM's a sanctuary that it currently is. I can see if there was a murder or assault to prove but a "he said / she said"???? Wake up A2, you have a responsibility to keep the sanctity of PRIVATE Messaging. PRIVATE!You attack me in the past and it turns out your the mental midget my friend. If you think PM's are private your an idiot. Nothing that's put online is private. Assume all your PM's are getting read, your email has been hacked and your internet history is showing up on homeland security or Vices radar because it is.

So A2 . Post the PM or post that you read it and the contents and be done with it.

KC.

[LawDog17]

Posting one PM doesn't help get to the truth, it only reveals whatever the PM says. One piece of evidence. As I mentioned before, what if person in PM wasn't telling whole truth or was intentionally misleading the reader for sake of protecting his / her identity. I believe revealing PM's is a slippery slope. BTW some people lie in PM just like some of us have monger names or working girl phones. Some people lie on here about there height and weight or dick size or in the case of providers about their age or weight. Some people wait two weeks to write a review and then the provider is all, you were the best when they have no idea who you were or they say I didn't do that with you but they did. I am not sure of any monger who hasn't had BBFS situation when it started covered and either the cover came off, was involuntarily ripped off, was clogging the process and was the voluntarily ripped off. I have some providers say "don't tell anyone" and I was like "okay". So I am not sure what the fuck this drama is all about. Frankly, I don't know the provider from Admin's housecat and I do know the monger. I know the monger would like to respond with facts and dates and times and messages. The long and the short of it is, lets agree to disagree about who is right (never really important anyway) and just get back to mongering and the providers can get back to whoring. In the immortal words of Charlie Sheen, "I don't pay for sex, I just pay for them to leave after we have sex!" -- and that's my two cents -- Dog.

[Member #4697]

Posting one PM doesn't help get to the truth, it only reveals whatever the PM says. One piece of evidence. As I mentioned before, what if person in PM wasn't telling whole truth or was intentionally misleading the reader for sake of protecting his / her identity. I believe revealing PM's is a slippery slope. BTW some people lie in PM just like some of us have monger names or working girl phones. Some people lie on here about there height and weight or dick size or in the case of providers about their age or weight. Some people wait two weeks to write a review and then the provider is all, you were the best when they have no idea who you were or they say I didn't do that with you but they did. I am not sure of any monger who hasn't had BBFS situation when it started covered and either the cover came off, was involuntarily ripped off, was clogging the process and was the voluntarily ripped off. I have some providers say "don't tell anyone" and I was like "okay". So I am not sure what the fuck this drama is all about. Frankly, I don't know the provider from Admin's housecat and I do know the monger. I know the monger would like to respond with facts and dates and times and messages. The long and the short of it is, lets agree to disagree about who is right (never really important anyway) and just get back to mongering and the providers can get back to whoring. In the immortal words of Charlie Sheen, "I don't pay for sex, I just pay for them to leave after we have sex!" -- and that's my two cents -- Dog.You know what. This is a great post. Upon reading this I agree 100%. Nobody on this forum will ever get the whole truth about anything. Whether it's a post, a PM, texts, he said she said etc. I don't really care about anything other than knowing if a girl is LE and maybe get an idea of service level.

And it's true. I and some others on here certainly don't need to pay for sex. We pay for them to leave and shut their fucking mouths.

KC.

[Vino 7373]

Hey A2, if whatever happened is so shitty that you feel a need to post up the PM, why don't you just ban the monger involved? When, or if you do, please post up and inform us who it was. We don't need any other details. His departure from this great forum is all we need to know.

[LuvInIt007]

Posting one PM doesn't help get to the truth, it only reveals whatever the PM says. One piece of evidence. As I mentioned before, what if person in PM wasn't telling whole truth or was intentionally misleading the reader for sake of protecting his / her identity. I believe revealing PM's is a slippery slope. BTW some people lie in PM just like some of us have monger names or working girl phones. Some people lie on here about there height and weight or dick size or in the case of providers about their age or weight. Some people wait two weeks to write a review and then the provider is all, you were the best when they have no idea who you were or they say I didn't do that with you but they did. I am not sure of any monger who hasn't had BBFS situation when it started covered and either the cover came off, was involuntarily ripped off, was clogging the process and was the voluntarily ripped off. I have some providers say "don't tell anyone" and I was like "okay". So I am not sure what the fuck this drama is all about. Frankly, I don't know the provider from Admin's housecat and I do know the monger. I know the monger would like to respond with facts and dates and times and messages. The long and the short of it is, lets agree to disagree about who is right (never really important anyway) and just get back to mongering and the providers can get back to whoring. In the immortal words of Charlie Sheen, "I don't pay for sex, I just pay for them to leave after we have sex!" -- and that's my two cents -- Dog.There are people looking for the smoking gun or burn them at the cross (not really) without all the info. Only A2 has the power to read all pm's before during and after the accusation. Let's just have some sex! If you all haven't figured this out you can tell who fibs a little in there posts for the entertainment value. It's all about consistency and multiple positive posts other than that it's YMMV then move on until you find your favorite.

I want Ashley!

[Barolo]

Note this is in blue:

Situation; A guy says a chick did a thing. She responds and says she didn't. He responds and says I know you do because you did it with me. She then copies in a PM where he specifically says they didn't do what he's saying they did in the forum.

First Problem; PM's are private and normally can't be posted.

Second Problem; As a rule chicks can't defend on the forum. (But they can on a thread like this)

My issue; It's a pretty big deal what they are talking about and she has proof positive (his own words) that it happened the way she said not what he said. I'm assuming, I would verify by looking in her inbox if she asked me to.

By simple yes let her or no don't let her. Let me know what you guys think about moving the post here with the screen shot of the PM.

Not saying I'm going to do what you guys vote for, but I'd like to get a sense of the room on this issue.

A2Whatever you are going to do please do it! This way we can get on the other side of this issue and get back to our hobby!

[Mystical0945]

There are people looking for the smoking gun or burn them at the cross (not really) without all the info. Only A2 has the power to read all pm's before during and after the accusation. Let's just have some sex! If you all haven't figured this out you can tell who fibs a little in there posts for the entertainment value. It's all about consistency and multiple positive posts other than that it's YMMV then move on until you find your favorite.

I want Ashley!If I'm the "Ashley" you are referring to then "Come getcha some my love".

Love to ALL.

Xoxo Ashley.

Play Safe BUT Always Pay HARD.

[PaigeSweetStuf]

The more I thought about it it isn't fair to out the parties. That does compromise discretion one of my biggest personal concerns. No one knows for sure other than the 2 parties involved what happened. I wouldn't want my PMs out there. I was wrong and kind of jumped to conclusions. Discretion and privacy are key to safety.

Disregard the previous rants, running on emotion and not logic. Someone involved isn't telling the truth but that's between them.

If A2 feels something should be done he will, that's what he is here for and I am not going to be one to second guess decisions.

[PharmaGuy]

Hey A2, if whatever happened is so shitty that you feel a need to post up the PM, why don't you just ban the monger involved? When, or if you do, please post up and inform us who it was. We don't need any other details. His departure from this great forum is all we need to know.The feeble minded blind flock would go ape squeeze....they can't handle
the truth

[TomStone68]

and one apathetic down here. (I'm the Apathetic, it's a new political party I'm starting)Your official slogan.

340241

A2 makes you campaign manager.

A2

[JeanSaulPartre]

I think by now those of us who are in the habit of RTFF figured out what happened and who the players are. It is unlikely this will cause any lasting damage to the community. Posting what happened may hurt someone's ego. It is a big ego and some here will likely enjoy seeing it hurt. Those who wanted to see the SP in question probably figured out that the said SP is unlikely to be as adventurous as was advertised and will see or not see her regardless of that particular SM's review. Why not just let the dogs rest and move on.

Having said that, God (A2) moves in mysterious ways and I am really curious to see what happens.

[Jazak]

Posting one PM doesn't help get to the truth, it only reveals whatever the PM says. One piece of evidence. As I mentioned before, what if person in PM wasn't telling whole truth or was intentionally misleading the reader for sake of protecting his / her identity. I believe revealing PM's is a slippery slope. BTW some people lie in PM just like some of us have monger names or working girl phones. Some people lie on here about there height and weight or dick size or in the case of providers about their age or weight. Some people wait two weeks to write a review and then the provider is all, you were the best when they have no idea who you were or they say I didn't do that with you but they did. I am not sure of any monger who hasn't had BBFS situation when it started covered and either the cover came off, was involuntarily ripped off, was clogging the process and was the voluntarily ripped off. I have some providers say "don't tell anyone" and I was like "okay". So I am not sure what the fuck this drama is all about. Frankly, I don't know the provider from Admin's housecat and I do know the monger. I know the monger would like to respond with facts and dates and times and messages. The long and the short of it is, lets agree to disagree about who is right (never really important anyway) and just get back to mongering and the providers can get back to whoring. In the immortal words of Charlie Sheen, "I don't pay for sex, I just pay for them to leave after we have sex!" -- and that's my two cents -- Dog.This is a very good point! I also believe that no matter what is said about a provider if she keeps providing a great service and does not rip guys off she will stay on top and prevail. Look at all the crap Savanna has had to go through and she has stayed on top and she has prevailed. Why? Because she's hard headed and does not give up and because she provides great service and does not rip people off. So perhaps Dog is right, maybe it's not important who is right just keep providing a good service and you will eventually prevail. Yes, people lie in their PM's also so posting the PM may not bring the truth out.

Jazak.

[VerySlowly]

OK VS you say its ok to post B&S pics as long as they are close or the session was good, who gives a shit? And you are happy with a TV star?

OK lets use your analogy. So lets say a provider posts fake pics and / or a monger vouches for her pics as very accurate or accurate.

So you go and see the provider and its not the girl in the pics but she looks like Leonards girlfriend Penny on the Big Bang Theory, pretty hot girl, so in your world its all good since you are happy with a good looking TV star. So the B&S is OK.

OK, same scenario, you arrive at her place and are met by a girl that looks like Sheldons girlfriend Amy, from the Big Bang Theory. Not the hottie you expected but a TV star, so is that B&S ok? Based on your statements, you should be fine with it. Not even close to the hot girl in the B&S pics, but based on your statement it should be acceptable. I highly doubt you would be fine with it, and if you say you would, you would be lying.

OK, same scenario, you arrive at her place and are met by a girl that looks like Howards girlfriend Bernadette, from the same show. Not the girl in the B&S pics but a TV star, so is this acceptable to you? I doubt it. She is not as hot as the girl in the fake pics, not as hot as Penny but better looking then AMY. So based on your excuse for using fake pics or a monger vouching for fake pics all 3 scenarios I laid out should be acceptable to you. Screw the fact the pics are fake, 1 girls hot, ones pretty hot and one not so much.

So tell me, where do you draw the line at using fake B&S pics? Would Penny be ok as the real girl you meet? Amy acceptable? How about Bernadette?

When you try and justify someone using fake B&S pics by saying who cares as long as she's hot and that you would be happy with a TV star, I just laid out 3 scenarios for you, that based on what you have said, each one should be acceptable with you and the use of fake B&S pics to lure you to see these 3 different girls in your world is perfectly fine.

Thats an impossible line to justify Fake pics and vouching for someone who is using fake pics is just wrong. Trying to rationalize it by saying well she was close enough to the B&S pics is a straw argument as everyone's CLOSE ENOUGH is different.

As for me I was spending $30 to $50 a month in gas money alone for a while, seeing girls posting hot pics, or meeting a girl based on a mongers claim that the girl is real, only to meet them in person and find out the pics are B&S and the monger was full of it. Then once your there the usual BS starts. The girl swears the pics in the ad are really her, and the excuses begin: Yeah I just cut and dyed my hair yesterday, Oh the tats I have in the ad?, Oh I had them medically removed last week, Oh my eye colors different? I was wearing colored contacts in the pics. Then when you try and leave theres always that 50/50 chance she is going to demand her donation anyway and tell you how her boys are going to jack you up if you try and leave without giving her money, even though you tried to leave within 2 minutes of getting there and you realizing her pics are fake.

I am too tired of the bullshit. If a provider posts fake pics and I go see her, once I walk in and realize her pics are fake, I leave, no matter what the little head is saying. If you can't see why some mongers don't like the idea of a provider using fake pics and a monger vouching for them, then that's your deal. As for me it pisses me off, as its a waste of my time and money.

Lastly, did I see you posting in the rat trap that someone is an ex cop? Isn't that the 4th or fifth time over the last several years that you have accused a monger of either being a cop, an ex cop, LEO or something to that effect?If you don't agree then don't, you posted a huge amount of shit to say nothing. You are angry about a ton of crap NedleyM can't fix nor can anybody else. Don't try to twist words using ugly girls as examples, people who got through sixth grade know exactly what I meant.

He posted he had a hot time with a good looking chick what other guarantees do you want. You always have the right to walk away—you said it yourself—listen to yourself.

Show me the post #s of all the members I accused of being a cop—do it bigmouth, you have a lot to say about fake pics but it's all right for you run your mouth, I warned about one guys handle being a cop term and to beware until he proves himself, I haven't seen him post in quite some time.

I know a lot about how to spot a cop, just like a good gambler learns how to spot tells in a poker game. How do I know? I posted why a long time ago—go look.

VS.

[VerySlowly]

I feel so strongly about keeping Private Messaging PRIVATE that I offer my retirement from this USAG web site if private messages are made public. Life will go on and I will find my mongering elsewhere. Maybe I will revive the Big Doggie Web site as a viable competitor of USAG as I was the VS of that site but skinner and better looking, certainly younger.If you are better looking than me, I'll let you blow me in Macy's window, you have a lot of mouth for someone with nothing to say, can't wait for your retirement. Oh I have a nice response to your other post referring to me but I might not post it for 10 days to 2 weeks so you won't know who was posting it. Simpleton. Thats what your idol says HE does, so I'm going to fool you to.

VS.

[Admin2]

There is an inherent inequity on this forum. I understand and agree with the reason but at heart I'm a fair guy and it bugs me. I'm talking about the fact that chicks by and large can't defend on the forum. We can't allow it because if we did every time some guy posted a bad review or said some chick ripped him off, then the next thing you know she's going to respond, then he has to argue and it fucking goes one forever. Nobody wants to read that, we lose membership, our sponsors leave, I make less money, then I get less pussy. That is all bad.

I can continue to do this though because due to the miracle of crowd sourcing at the end of the day the truth usually wins out. False negative and false positives are identified and discounted. It pretty much happens on a sub conscious level. Some chick has 30 reviews, 23 of them are great to fucking stellar, 5 guys say, eh she was good but nothing special, one guy says she redefines pussy, and one guy says her pussy stinks and she ripped him off.

From that 99% of guys are going to figure, 23 guys liked her, most a lot and some a whole lot. Five guys say she tried hard but it didn't happen (YMMV) The one guy that said sunshine comes out of her pussy was probably management trying to get her a start, and the guy who really hated her probably wanted to watch her fuck a goat but she wouldn't let him so he lied. Without thinking about it we throw out the highs and lows, and see a chick that 3 out of 4 times it's going to be worth the money and if we think the pics are hot and we have the coin, we will pick up the phone. That's how crowd sourcing works. You get to average the intel and make a more informed choice.

Savannah would be a great example of this in action. Most of the guys that have fucked her say "Holy shit, that chick can fuck!" Almost all the guys that have dealt with her also say, "Holy Shit that chick is fucking psycho!" If she ever came to Argentina I would probably fuck her at Argentina hot chick rates. But; I wouldn't fuck her at my house. I would take her to a telo. I would make the INFORMED choice, (because of all the info on her) to pin her knees to her ears like a Christmas Turkey but I sure as fuck wouldn't let her know where I live or what I drove.

PM's; PM's are private. No question about that, but that are not sacrosanct. Since nobody that can read and has access to the internet (everyone of you fucks here) knows that there is no expectation of privacy online. We usually don't talk about it, but you guys that aren't idiots know we have access to our own servers. It's not like Hedwig (Harry Potters owl) is sitting outside your car waiting to carry that PM to whoever you're sending it to. You guys know we have them. They are safe from locally prying eyes because our servers are offshore, but we have them. Lucky for you guys we don't do much about them for two reasons. First and most important, all of us are big privacy fans. Second, we just generally don't give a fuck what you say to each other. They are private, I thought about this for a day, in the end, I'm not releasing a PM, I'm putting out two sentences only.

Where these two worlds collide?

If some guy, a respected senior, sees some chick and writes that she ripped him off. Not gave him a bad time, but I mean strait up cash and fucking dash. That's what this forum is about. Guys exchanging info about a chick so they can make informed decisions. The chick writes me and says, "hey A2, I didn't rip him off, he's lying. I want you to take that post down right away." (This only happens 10 times a day) My response is the same. "Sorry, I don't take down bad reviews because you don't like that. Guys often lie on this forum. That's one of the hazards of a free forum. " If she doesn't rip guys off, her steadies are going to write and say, "hey, she didn't rip me off. " Then you guys get to decide who you want to believe. The one guy who said she ripped him off or the five who said she didn't.

BUT; what if she said to me "hey that guy who said I ripped him off sent me a PM saying, 'I told you if you didn't cut your rate in half for me I would write a bad review, next time you might be smarter. ' this isn't fair. I want you to take that post down. " Is she right? Is it ok for a member to deliberately lie about a session and I do nothing about it when I have his words as proof of what happened? Saying some chick has a big pimp that rips you off is kind of the kiss of death on this forum. It's not like 10 guys are going to go in behind you after you say that and say you were great.

What this is all about is Jag saying he fucked this chick Jema bareback. Bareback is a big deal. It's probably one of the most polarizing issues on the forum. Guys that want BB services are hounds about it. If some chick did it once, they think they should do it for everybody. But for guys like me who are "wrap it up every fucking time" guys we put chicks that provide those services on the don't fly list, and they aren't ever fucking getting off of it. So, if it isn't true, her phones going to blow up from guys she DOESN'T want to be seeing, and NONE of the guys she want's to see will call her. For most other stuff they can remedy it. Normally there's nothing I can do about it except say, "sorry sugar, the guys write what the guys write. " but there is still stuff she can do. If he says she's fat, she can post a pic of her gut holding todays paper. If he says her tits are down at her knees, she can post a pic of her boobies. If he says, she hates sucking cock, she can invite another senior to swing by for a pitstop and do some cock worshiping. She has remedies.

For BBFS there really isn't a way to remedy that except she puts up a post where he's saying it didn't happen.

Hmmmmm. What to do?

The member in question has a history of lying. I've never commented on it before, but I know it to be true. Guys have sent me PM's where he was RELENTLESSLY bugging them to "Hey man, A2 gave me my own thread because he said I'm one of the best posters on the forum. I would appreciate it if you gave me a shout out in my thread. " After I had explained to him when I started the sandbox that it wasn't an honor [Distinguished members that get their own threads have sticky threads (they are on the top half of the city pages) and can still post wherever they want]. What I told him specifically when I created that thread was "I'm sick of dealing with your shit, I'm sticking you in a fucking hole and if you fucking post one fucking time outside of it I'm banning you. " Somehow that got morphed into "hey man, A2 gave me my own thread because I'm awesome. " Let there be no mistake about this, it is not his thread, it is his cage.

On another occasion some chick he reviewed meant to send him a PM and instead of sending the PM, she clicked the report post button which goes to me. In the comments section, which I guess she thought was a going to him she wrote; "Thank you for the review it should help get me started, If you ever get down here look me up and I'll take good care of you. " Not, "when I see you again. " Not I had a good time" but "if you ever get down here. " She was dumb enough to report the post when she thought she was sending a PM so maybe she just fucked up, but that was the beginning of the slide that ended up seeing him restricted to that thread.

Jema told me I can look at her PM's this is what I saw in two of them. These are direct quotes from two PM's she received;.


I wish you and I had made love bareback.


You and I had a totally covered session.Does this chick fuck guys bareback. I don't know, I don't really care, I don't know shit about her. Does he have a history of lying? Without question. Does he fuck a lot of chicks? I don't know but I think so. Are most of his reports embellished to the point where they have little resemblance to truth, again I don't know but if you don't think so I hope I can play poker with you some day. Is he scrambling like a madman trying to get in front of this with damage control? Oh my fucking god yes. A couple guys that have posted in here today have put up stuff that was nearly word for word what I deleted from his thread BEFORE this chick had even put anything out there. Remember in my initial post I didn't mention names, or anything about what had happened. Why can't he post about it in his sandbox? Because part of his restriction is he's only allowed to post about his DIRECT experience with chicks.

AncientOne, if you got to make a stand on principle and go, I understand and respect that because that's what I'm doing here. I'm not going to let a douchebag say something when in his own words by his own hand he says it didn't happen. I didn't release the whole series of PM's but I'm a pretty smart guy, the story about "trying to protect my identity" doesn't fit the narrative about the exchange between them in any way. That's just another lie.

A2

[PharmaGuy]

Is to keep it private.

[MoreMike147]

Very well said -.

[JerseyGirl]

Epic Fucking Post! Now that's the way to handle things, BRAVO!.

[PharmaGuy]

The sheep who can't see past the flock will be shitting themselves. Of course when I said this stuff, which was quite obvious to me, I became under attack. We were just the jealous ones and don't have Jag coin.The Jag is still good entertainment with his musings. I assume he means well, sure he's banged a few girls and I sure as hell know he has not. I have no hate for him. I have not went public on the main forum with what I know. It was so obvious it was astounding that so many could not see it. So I wish for him to continue, hopefully in more of a REALISTIC manner.


A2 it looks like you need to get that poker game going, your going to clean

[DC248]

The sheep who can't see past the flock will be shitting themselves. Of course when I said this stuff, which was quite obvious to me, I became under attack. We were just the jealous ones and don't have Jag coin.The Jag is still good entertainment with his musings. I assume he means well, sure he's banged a few girls and I sure as hell know he has not. I have no hate for him. I have not went public on the main forum with what I know. It was so obvious it was astounding that so many could not see it. So I wish for him to continue, hopefully in more of a REALISTIC manner.


A2 it looks like you need to get that poker game going, your going to cleanFirst The Tooth Fairy, then Santa and now the Jag!? What's the world coming to? Next you'll tell me that undercover LE doesn't have to say yes when you ask if they're a cop!

[Member #4697]

When I started posting on here I called out the Jag and his false reports, lies, embellishments etc. And I was berated by all the trusted senior members saying how Jag is a proven commodity and I was the question mark. Try and find one thing I lied about! I won't discuss the details of Jag and my conversations via PM because I wouldn't do that. But if you thought his reviews were solid and he saw all those girls and every experience was a Wicked Pictures movie trailer then your a fucking idiot. I bang a lot of chicks, I'm good looking. All true. Now every experience is not that great for me or for her probably. Some I get excited and cum too quick, sometimes I'm taking Adderall and my dick doesn't get super hard, sometimes the girl doesn't do it for me and sometimes it's a scene out of a porno movie. That's real life. And it would be great if some of you all could start living in the real world. I've heard so many rumors about myself and others on here that is ridiculous. Pretty much every single thing I heard about myself is not only false but couldn't possibly happen. So I'm sure the same is true about others.

KC.

[AncientOne]

USAG is your playground and your job and it appears to me to be a difficult job at that. So many mitigating factors involved in your actions of squaring away this dispute that quite frankly I had not considered. What really strikes me about "your book" is your stated "management" of the Jag (own thread / cage including severe RESTRICTIONS). As usual in life, things are not always what they appear to be! When The Tooth Fairy and Santa turned out to be total SHAMS yet they each still maintain redeeming qualities, as does the Jag. Perhaps now his embellishments and overzealousness will be toned down? I will still be a big fan of Jag's Sandbox as his INTEL is valuable stuff for MY PARTICULAR HOBBY needs, and apparently a host of other mongers as well. I will not resign from USAG but I will certainly curtail my activities here drastically. Play Safe All. AncientOne.

[Admin2]

For anybody that's saying this;


When I started posting on here I called out the Jag and his false reports, lies, embellishments etc.


Of course when I said this stuff, which was quite obvious to me, I became under attack.And thinking, "see now I was justified in calling him out"

Remember I did this for a year;


I've never commented on it before,

Just saying,

A2

[Tyrice24]

And it was all covered and it was still all good. Play safe and have fun fellas.

[VerySlowly]

For anybody that's saying this;



And thinking, "see now I was justified in calling him out"

Remember I did this for a year;



Just saying,

A2We both know how many times I bit through my tongue and you quietly deleted my posts before they were posted and in retrospect you were correct in doing so for all the reasons you posted below, what I and several friends on here didn't realize was that YOU DID KNOW! And in order to maintain fairness for all the reasons you stated you handled it using the same technique as the fake chick from Ocala (Built her own fake website) that had this board swarming a few years ago.

What I never understood was that so many thought you gave him "His own thread" it's clear as day that ANYONE can start a thread there, it's full of dead and mistakenly put up threads, one member even tried to denigrate me saying I had no thread there, I have no words for that level of ignorance.

None of these guys noticed that this (900+ poster in less than a year) hasn't posted anywhere else including this thread since he was caged and they didn't think this odd.

Personally I think anyone who has created 2 identities,63 year old Retired A. A. Pilot and the real 43 year old Narcissist, talks about masturbating (a first in my memory on this board) screws over 1000 women in ten years (unless you are a mega celebrity) Mongers in a rental car, checks into hotels under an alias, this person is a little hard to swallow. (providers haven't verified if that #3" head is really hard to swallow) we'll just have to wait and see.

I now understand how when a religious figure is exposed think (Ted Haggard, Jim Baker, Jimmy Swaggert) the flock still follows them, gives them money etc. After they are undisputedly proven to be Hippocrites. All 3 of those characters have their own church and 2 have television shows, after all god forgives them. I haven't seen the paperwork yet but that's what they say.

I understand Gilding the lily a bit, who hasn't shaved a few strokes off their golf game, said they make more money than they do etc. But when there are huge lies continuously, I personally dismiss those people from my life basically don't know how to react to a huge BS artist I can't stand to listen to it knowing it isn't true.

I hope he gets some help because that behavior is way outside the norms.

I thank you A2 for weighing all your options and in my opinion choosing the right one. You explained the statistics very nicely in your post, I hope the reasonable members listened carefully.

VS.

[VerySlowly]

For anybody that's saying this;



And thinking, "see now I was justified in calling him out"

Remember I did this for a year;



Just saying,

A2Once in a "BLUE MOON" Señor A2 blasts you a new asshole but when he does those 'Roids' will burn for a long time, oh don't I know it!

VS.

[Jesse54]

A2 I must say kudos to you for the novel. Not only did you handle it as PC as possible you explained the thought process that brought you to the decision. I think most had already read between the lines so to speak on this one and figured out who the players were and what was going on. It is always tough when there are players on both sides of the fence. There is just no way to make everyone happy. It is my hope that everyone understands the process. I urge those who this might upset not to take their ball and go home. So I go out today, enjoy one of the best rides from an UTR. Check in and bam all this. Members of the tribe now is the time to get back to the task at hand. How about some postings over in those Coochie related threads. Cheers J54.

[LawDog17]

Now that we have beaten that dead horse into the ground can we get back to what we do best, mongering. I am not sure that little excersize will change anyone's minds about anything. My extra extra two cents is that there are those that will believe her and those that will believe him and those like me, who never really gave a fuck either way. In the end, Jag is a prolific writer / reviewer who likes to spin a tale or two. He is from NY / NJ so you know he is full of bullshit (sorry Yankee). Some of us who, like his contributions have warned him about going overboard or getting into feuds and all of us have had our petty squables over the years. The hardest thing for most people to do in life is admit they fucked up or apologize. Often they think it makes them look weak. To the contrary, it often makes you stronger. Sometimes just apologizing even when you are not wrong wins more than it loses. Although I sound like a Sun Tzu and the Art of War book, I am trying to point out that it is important to pick your battles. Sometimes New Yorkers don't understand this concept since they seem to want to do battle everyday about everything. As they said in the Godfather, "Leave the gun, take the cannoli. " The lesson to be learned here is don't make work for A2 or else you will get the wrath. He is sipping tequilla in Argentina eating steaks that are so fresh they moo and the last thing he needs is bunch of ruckus from the cheap seats. Maybe Jag will cool his jets in the sandbox. Maybe he will learn to take it slower like the southern pace suggests during this heat wave. Who knows? Who cares? Bars open, girls are dancing, let's go enjoy. -- Dog.

[Sexifun]

Now that we have beaten that dead horse into the ground can we get back to what we do best, mongering. I am not sure that little excersize will change anyone's minds about anything. My extra extra two cents is that there are those that will believe her and those that will believe him and those like me, who never really gave a fuck either way. In the end, Jag is a prolific writer / reviewer who likes to spin a tale or two. He is from NY / NJ so you know he is full of bullshit (sorry Yankee). Some of us who, like his contributions have warned him about going overboard or getting into feuds and all of us have had our petty squables over the years. The hardest thing for most people to do in life is admit they fucked up or apologize. Often they think it makes them look weak. To the contrary, it often makes you stronger. Sometimes just apologizing even when you are not wrong wins more than it loses. Although I sound like a Sun Tzu and the Art of War book, I am trying to point out that it is important to pick your battles. Sometimes New Yorkers don't understand this concept since they seem to want to do battle everyday about everything. As they said in the Godfather, "Leave the gun, take the cannoli. " The lesson to be learned here is don't make work for A2 or else you will get the wrath. He is sipping tequilla in Argentina eating steaks that are so fresh they moo and the last thing he needs is bunch of ruckus from the cheap seats. Maybe Jag will cool his jets in the sandbox. Maybe he will learn to take it slower like the southern pace suggests during this heat wave. Who knows? Who cares? Bars open, girls are dancing, let's go enjoy. -- Dog.Please don't knock on new jersey (we jerseyites put up with enough of that) it's a beautiful state with great, friendly people (just take a look at me or jersey girl) and as bruce springsteen sang there's nothing in the world like a jersey girl. By the way I have the distinction of having a dad from jersey and a mom from west virginia (no jokes there either boys) so L'm like a little of both southern and northern kinda like a little bit country a little bit rock and roll. Good day.

[WilliamMstrs]

Your official slogan.

340241

A2 makes you campaign manager.

A2Just send me the forms for my party I'd card. I want one of the earliest memebrr numbers.

[WilliamMstrs]

A well crafted answer, and an exceptional decision, on a matter as sensitive as this. All with good and accurate analogies.

Daddy didn't just stop the car, he did it with enough force that the airbags deployed. Outstanding!

[Jazak]

Any chance we could take a pole to have a few others put in the same cage with jag? I can think of one for sure that would probably win the pole to go in.

It was just a thought!

Jazak.

[SingleMoms]

Man, you cannot miss a day of this rat trap shit or you have no idea what the fuck is going on. Someone let me know if I got this correct, I tried to RTTF but I have a job and only so much time. Here goes as best as I can tell. King Swag is Savannah, King Casanova is Little Meech, Nikki is the one who get the fake bills, Black Prince is Drewbruski, Half the stuff Jag says is true, half is not. Admin is funny as shit. There has been no drama from Jersey Girl, Jenna Devine, Melissa3, Joy, Mystical Ashley, NaNa (she is back), Joan, and (fill in the blank). I think that is most of it, let me know what I missed or got wrong. Thanks.


I hate to pick a favorite but I've pretty much already done that. The first city I really got involved in as me not the godlike presence of my alter ego was Cincinnati (affectionately known as Sincy) and if I ever moved back to the States it would probably be there.

I also like Boston's "The Massholes" a lot as well. Being in the epicenter of the liberal elite I find those guys to be the most highbrow.

I got to say though, that there is no fucking place that matches this thread for off the fucking hook insanity. Giving credit where credit is due, we got to thank the goddess for that. Orlando would be a close second for a USA mongering destination, the talent might be marginally better here, but I think the hobby faces less opposition there.

[Member #5141]

For anybody that's saying this;



And thinking, "see now I was justified in calling him out"

Remember I did this for a year;



Just saying,

A2You did what for a year? Held your tongue?

[Sillyolman]

USAG is your playground and your job and it appears to me to be a difficult job at that. So many mitigating factors involved in your actions of squaring away this dispute that quite frankly I had not considered. What really strikes me about "your book" is your stated "management" of the Jag (own thread / cage including severe RESTRICTIONS). As usual in life, things are not always what they appear to be! When The Tooth Fairy and Santa turned out to be total SHAMS yet they each still maintain redeeming qualities, as does the Jag. Perhaps now his embellishments and overzealousness will be toned down? I will still be a big fan of Jag's Sandbox as his INTEL is valuable stuff for MY PARTICULAR HOBBY needs, and apparently a host of other mongers as well. I will not resign from USAG but I will certainly curtail my activities here drastically. Play Safe All. AncientOne.Nobody ever had any dispute with Jag because he didn't provide intel. I am glad that you or anyone else follows, appreciates, wants, can use the intel he provides. All the power in the world to you.

God love a man who can spend as much time and money on getting pussy as he does. I only wish that was me. I also know the reality of what he says needs to be questioned because it doesn't make sense. I think there are several of us on this forum who don't trust a man who feels the need to pound his chest that hard. And several people have come out to say he is slinging a lot of bull shit.

So, I totally respect you. I truly do. But, there are quite a few of us who appreciate coming into this forum each day and not find each thread overrun with posts by Jag telling us he is going to post. Use his intel and enjoy our hobby. I am glad you find benefit in the things he posts.

He was asked to tone it down and did not do it. He was then banned from the forum and still won't tone down. It's looking like he is not able to, or needs a hearing aide.

[TungstenHP]

I've been sitting on the sideline of the anti-jag team just reading these posts and watching the story unfold and sadly the story is over (albeit with a happy ending). Good job A2 on your post. I enjoyed reading your thought process and glad to see you use your big head as much as your smaller head hahah.

Now to find something new to read, I guess I'll jump back to the BP reviews page or something.

'Pyth.

[Katsumoto]

I've been sitting on the sideline of the anti-jag team just reading these posts and watching the story unfold and sadly the story is over (albeit with a happy ending). Good job A2 on your post. I enjoyed reading your thought process and glad to see you use your big head as much as your smaller head hahah.

Now to find something new to read, I guess I'll jump back to the BP reviews page or something.

'Pyth.Jags stories reminded me of when I was 13/14 jerking off on the toilet reading my dads Hustlers and Penthouse mags. It was cool when I was 13/14 but not at my age now. Every single story of his ended up with him BBCIP and we all know not every single lady out there does it. I couldn't believe how many people here swung from jags nuts, it amazed me. I would have called him out but A2 slapped me in Brevard forum for telling somebody they were full of shit when the girl doesn't even suck dick. LOL.

[Admin2]

Man, you cannot miss a day of this rat trap shit or you have no idea what the fuck is going on. Someone let me know if I got this correct, I tried to RTTF but I have a job and only so much time. Here goes as best as I can tell. King Swag is Savannah, King Casanova is Little Meech, Nikki is the one who get the fake bills, Black Prince is Drewbruski, Half the stuff Jag says is true, half is not. Admin is funny as shit. There has been no drama from Jersey Girl, Jenna Devine, Melissa3, Joy, Mystical Ashley, NaNa (she is back), Joan, and (fill in the blank). I think that is most of it, let me know what I missed or got wrong. Thanks.It sounds bad the way you say it. LOL.

A2.

[Whiskeysours]

A2, your well reasoned post shows wisdom and patience as you let this process unfold. Of course, in hindsight, it all makes sense now. I admire some of the seniors here who had similar insight. I have zero respect for those SMs who chastised others who didn't march in line. I'll admit to being intrigued by Jag's posts, and we have even traded intel via PM, although I'll have to go back and read some with a new perspective.

While I'm disappointed for not figuring this shit out like some SMs did earlier, I'm also very glad I didn't denigrate those who questioned some of Jag's reports. It was frankly shocking to hear certain SMs swoon like little schoolgirls over his reports. One anti-Jag poster implied that the Jag supporters were essentially sucking his cock. In retrospect, that sentiment couldn't be truer. Ironically though, I have a little more respect for Jag than the bitches on here who stroked their cocks for him.

Honestly, I may still read the Sandbox, although it's longevity is probably in doubt. A2, I thought all you did all day was fuck hot Latin girls for cheap and sit around on your smug ass laughing at us pathetic horny fuckers. It's now obvious that you take this forum seriously, and try to do the right thing. You got it right.

[Member #5141]

Why not let Jag defend himself or apologize in this thread? I'd be interested in knowing his version.

[Jazak]

Any chance we could take a pole to have a few others put in the same cage with jag? I can think of one for sure that would probably win the pole to go in.

It was just a thought!

Jazak.Just joking around with this one. A-2, you did a fine job with the way you handled that and Jag even though you have smoke coming out of your ice you do provide good stories & intel at times so hang in there.

Bottoms up! & Having Fun!

Jazak.

[Admin2]

Why not let Jag defend himself or apologize in this thread? I'd be interested in knowing his version.

PM him, I'm sure he'll be glad to tell you. I have no intention of ever letting him out of that cage nor will I ease up the restrictions I've put on him.

He can post about the chicks he fucks and anybody who wants to can read it.

A2.

[DreamForever69]

Why not let Jag defend himself or apologize in this thread? I'd be interested in knowing his version.His version is that he had BBFS with a provider which has been proven false. Which means that we can't believe a word he wrote. Which means every one of his long drawn out posts is pure fiction. Every single post about what he did with a provider was bull shit. His condescending attitude towards any member that questioned his {dreams} was his worst flaw. Wanting everybody to PM him so he could tell them how to have success like he did, thinking he was the ' Golden Monger' but instead he has become the ' Fallen Peasant '.

[Member #5141]

PM him, I'm sure he'll be glad to tell you. I have no intention of ever letting him out of that cage nor will I ease up the restrictions I've put on him.

He can post about the chicks he fucks and anybody who wants to can read it.

A2.It wouldn't be harmful to give him 1 post here just to allow him to clear the air. You can keep him in the cage after knowing that you allowed him his piece and an opportunity to apologize.

[Member #5141]

His version is that he had BBFS with a provider which has been proven false. Which means that we can't believe a word he wrote. Which means every one of his long drawn out posts is pure fiction. Every single post about what he did with a provider was bull shit. His condescending attitude towards any member that questioned his {dreams} was his worst flaw. Wanting everybody to PM him so he could tell them how to have success like he did, thinking he was the ' Golden Monger' but instead he has become the ' Fallen Peasant '.We don't really know how often he lied or what his version of events is. Your statement that "we can't believe a word he wrote" is probably an unfair exaggeration. There are lots of mongers who would thank him for the info he provided that turned out perfectly fine.

It seems that you personally dislike him, which is fine. You don't have to like him to allow him his piece. If his side of things doesn't make sense and / or he lies more, he'll look even worse than he does now.

[BuffGuy111]

http://orlando.backpage.com/BodyRubs/x-toe-curling-sensual-strawberry-blonde-x-july-4-specials-22/10729152

Has anyone ever seen her? Any review would help.So far you have pretty much put down some of our most well reviewed talents in the area. Maybe you should take this one for the team and provide us feedback.

BG111.

[Otwist]

We don't really know how often he lied or what his version of events is. Your statement that "we can't believe a word he wrote" is probably an unfair exaggeration. There are lots of mongers who would thank him for the info he provided that turned out perfectly fine.

It seems that you personally dislike him, which is fine. You don't have to like him to allow him his piece. If his side of things doesn't make sense and / or he lies more, he'll look even worse than he does now.After PMing with Jag, A2, some of his detractors and some of his friends, if I were a juror and with the info presented, I would have to say not guilty from lack of evidence. I am sure there is a lot more info that I don't know, but without an intense investigation, I still don't know enough to say one way or the other. All I can say for sure is that pretty much everyone I chatted with about this was very respectful and we had some healthy discussions. We did not always agree, but it remained cordial.

The two mistakes I think Jag made were to bring up BBFS in a post. No good can come from that. No sane provider wants to be known as the BBFS lady. The other mistake he makes is allowing his detractors to push his buttons. He wants to do verbal battle with everyone that says anything negative about him. He needs to just do his thing and not worry about those that don't care for him. You can't please everyone.

[AncientOne]

After PMing with Jag, A2, some of his detractors and some of his friends, if I were a juror and with the info presented, I would have to say not guilty from lack of evidence. I am sure there is a lot more info that I don't know, but without an intense investigation, I still don't know enough to say one way or the other. All I can say for sure is that pretty much everyone I chatted with about this way very respectful and we had some healthy discussions. We did not always agree, but it remained cordial.

The two mistakes I think Jag made were to bring up BBFS in a post. No good can come from that. No sane provider wants to be known as the BBFS lady. The other mistake he makes is allowing his detractors to push his buttons. He wants to do verbal battle with everyone that says anything negative about him. He needs to just do his thing and not worry about those that don't care for him. You can't please everyone.So what you are saying is that there is "reasonable doubt" enough to not to find Jag guilty? I have found Otwist to be the MOST reliable and honest SM on this board, bar none! I like your assessment of the situation Otwist. Now lets get back to the business of paying chicks to get naked! I will shortly post a review (In Jag's sandbox since it was Jag INTEL) about my lunchtime nut busting visit to a SP. Play Safe. AncientOne.

[Jesse54]

His version is that he had BBFS with a provider which has been proven false. Which means that we can't believe a word he wrote. Which means every one of his long drawn out posts is pure fiction. Every single post about what he did with a provider was bull shit. His condescending attitude towards any member that questioned his {dreams} was his worst flaw. Wanting everybody to PM him so he could tell them how to have success like he did, thinking he was the ' Golden Monger' but instead he has become the ' Fallen Peasant '.I apologize for piling on this dead horse will be buried soon. Goodness knows it has plenty of bruises from the whippings it has taken. I have reached out to Jag a few times in the past. Once about a rub gal over in my neck of the woods with very limited reviews at the time. His replies were very consistent with what I got from 3-4 others. Reviews came out later that without a doubt made me thankful I had not wasted my limited Mario coins. I am sure everyone has members that are trusted more so than the average Joe. My advice if you got to make your bullets count seek advice from more than one source. Safe travels during the holiday weekend. BBFS RIP. J54.

[MadisonGuy69]

So far you have pretty much put down some of our most well reviewed talents in the area. Maybe you should take this one for the team and provide us feedback.

BG111.It's my opinion you don't have to be a rude jack ass. It speaks highly of why you pay girls, you still aren't over me disliking one. Seriously get over it! Ha ha learn to be the alpha male man. I pay out of addiction, not necessity.

[Admin2]

Jag's banned, threads closed. I told him to knock it off with the minion army. Any of you guys that wish to go with him may.

If you wish to look up his old posts they are now listed under "Relentless self promoter and pain in my ass."

A2

[Quilino]

Jag's banned, threads closed. I told him to knock it off with the minion army. Any of you guys that wish to go with him may.

If you wish to look up his old posts they are now listed under "Relentless self promoter and pain in my ass."

A2May this whole matter rest in peace!

[TRowePrice]

Wow this thread is crazy.

Back to porn I go.

[Rooster8802]

Finally.

Thank God. And A2.

[Admin2]

How legal is it to disable power and phone in a room at a hotel.

Swag out.More info, do you want to do it to your room?

Is mgt doing it to your room?

Or are you pissed at somebody staying at the hotel and you're posting this while standing next to the telephone and power lines holding a running chainsaw wondering how much trouble you will get into if you start cutting?

The details are important.

Just saying,

A2.

[AncientOne]

jag's banned, threads closed. I told him to knock it off with the minion army. Any of you guys that wish to go with him may.

If you wish to look up his old posts they are now listed under "relentless self promoter and pain in my ass."

a2at least i got to be the one with the last post in the jag sandbox!

[PaigeSweetStuf]

Well wise one I commend on the advice. But to each their own. As it is a men's club but when the drama is brought to me why should I take it lying down?

And also I never had to defend anything but my honor. How I live and what is my apt is to my liking. I live comfortably. Also as far back as I can remember, other than by fake accounts or a reincarnated account of a retires / banned member, has been absolutely positive and glowing. Trust me the fluff I post on here is far from my innermost thoughts. This board is not my complete life. Just a portion of it.

I do thank you for clearing that complete nonsense that myself and ginger are one in the same.

Idk you we have never met. I am going to take it as you were trying to be nice offer advice but that could have been politely thru a PM.

Take care and stay safe xoxo.

Paige


Since I'm the longest posting MACK Daddy on this board, here are a few thoughts from the wisdom of the past.

Paige has made a mistake getting involved in posting her innermost thoughts on this board as a wise seductress once said on here "This is a mens club, stay out of the drama".

I realize it's HARD for the ladies (At least I hope it is!) But somehow this always turns on them in the end. Just look at what has been exposed or said about you in the last weeks and you've had to defend your wrestling posters and toys etc. Not good, Not necessary.

I assure all of you Paige is not Ginger, assuming Paige's pics resemble reality and as long as they have been posted on here I'm sure they do. I just posted Gingers picture on here in the last few weeks and they are not even close. I'll do it again, as I said not even close.

Savanna is still preying on Vino as she preyed on Paige. Never has anything been stupider than woofing on Vino, never on this board has there been a stupider act, baseless nonsense.

The counterfeit stuff has been hilarious, F. Why. I. The secret service, never, never comes running for a handful of small bills did I say never. They concentrate on the counterfeiting by foreign Governments, not tens and twenties printed on home computers. When is the last time you heard about a big bust of a local counterfeiting ring? The last one I know of was a print shop in Bunnell, he was wholesaling it for 20 cents on the dollar. This was about 10-12 yrs. Ago, I think he got about 3 yrs. Probation.

The fantasies being posted on here from some of the newer members are great fun, lets all have a fun reading them and holding on to those long held beliefs.

I fell out laughing with the cat piss comments about Jag's sandbox, it took awhile but some are sensing the feet of clay.

Yo, YO A2 did you meet an English Nanny who's making a few bucks in BA, Good day, Good day, somehow that is so out of character for you somehow. But a little edification goes a long way.

Cheers and Tally ho!

VS.

Drew Brewski's BFF..

[AncientOne]

Jag's banned, threads closed. I told him to knock it off with the minion army. Any of you guys that wish to go with him may.

If you wish to look up his old posts they are now listed under "Relentless self promoter and pain in my ass."

A2Pulled off his belt! (was too funny so I stole it from Jesse54).

[Sillyolman]

Jag's banned, threads closed. I told him to knock it off with the minion army. Any of you guys that wish to go with him may.

If you wish to look up his old posts they are now listed under "Relentless self promoter and pain in my ass."

A2He called it like he saw it.

[PharmaGuy]

Jag's banned, threads closed. I told him to knock it off with the minion army. Any of you guys that wish to go with him may.

If you wish to look up his old posts they are now listed under "Relentless self promoter and pain in my ass."

A2Damn.

I told him to cool down, ignore it all, take the high road and all this will pass. Everyone here is an adult an we can all look past the issues and move forward. I told him do not be your own worst enemy, lay off A2 or he will unleash the Kracken.

I wish him well as he figures what is next in his mongering career. I assume there will be a lot of pissed followers. I questioned his work and and came forward to address it, but I never wanted to see the guy gone. I didn't dislike the Jag, we were cordial with each other regardless of our issues. He is adamant of his innocence and that all his work can be proven.

The writing was on the wall I guess, you knew this couldn't last forever. What is done is done, maybe the Jag's name will be a part of USASG folklore or will he be reincarnated on this board like King Meech and Swag, you never know!

Good luck to you Jag maybe we will meet again.

[FLAdventurer]

It was my room and another woman Karen. It mysteriously came back on after I put my red flashing light in window and started knocking on neighbors doors to plug my phone in. The only sawing going on is in the neighbors on either side of me that seem to be working on remodeling late at night.

Swag out.Are you current on rent?

Or, better yet, with all the storms rumbling through, maybe it was a power outage.

Too funny.

[VerySlowly]

" He is adamant of his innocence and that all his work can be proven. " Quote is from From PharmaGuy's post.

The word is "DENIAL" and I also heard he masticates when he eats pizza. {for the intelligenc-ia}.

VS.

[Barolo]

PM him, I'm sure he'll be glad to tell you. I have no intention of ever letting him out of that cage nor will I ease up the restrictions I've put on him.

He can post about the chicks he fucks and anybody who wants to can read it.

A2.A2 a curious question for you? You posted this about not letting him out of his cage. I truly understand. You than went to banning him. I am not question you at all just and not saying it is wrong but what throw you over the edge to change your mind?

[Brucel58]

I am new to this board, and he was one of the very few who would give me reliable advice. I am sorry to se him go. Farewell my friend!

[PharmaGuy]

A2 a curious question for you? You posted this about not letting him out of his cage. I truly understand. You than went to banning him. I am not question you at all just and not saying it is wrong but what throw you over the edge to change your mind?Jags minions were in a full court press, I assume hounding A2, so A2 was forced to unleash the Kracken.

[Thomas5989]

Seriously, I have never seen so many men worship someone that speaks about about how great he is with a woman, in a long story, when all we want to know is how the woman is. Don't really give a shit how the man performs, only the woman. I don't post on here much but since Jag has PM'd me and gave me some feedback on several providers and every one was a bust and totally different results. I'm sure some of you have ran into a few that he reported on came through because he reported on almost every woman in Orlando. I could do that just reading the board.

Just a word for the upcoming story tellers, keep it to the provider, we really don't care about what a stud you may think you are. Keep to our interests, finding a fine provider.

Sorry but had to vent after reading these.

Jema, don't know you but I lean to believing you.

[Whiskeysours]

Jag's banned, threads closed. I told him to knock it off with the minion army. Any of you guys that wish to go with him may.

If you wish to look up his old posts they are now listed under "Relentless self promoter and pain in my ass."

A2Good, leave it up so we can take a good look at the posts from all the pussies who carried his jock.

[Member #5141]

I think you said they are a competitor but it doesn't seem that way. Even if more people knew about that site they wouldn't stop coming to this site.

Sorry to answer in here but I need the mod console to do it.

First I want to make sure that I'm understanding your question. Are you really asking why we don't allow people to promote a competing web site on ours?

If so, then it's because Jax says you (universal you, not ImpliedFoldeq you, yinz in Pittsburg) can't.

From the desk of the Master Monger, el Jeffe, affectionately known as Jax to those of us who know him;


============================================

Greetings Gentlemen,

With all due respect, I would very much appreciate it if you would not use my forum to publicly solicit or exchange information on how to find and/or use my competitor's website(s).

Thanks,

Jackson

His ball, his bat, his rules,

A2

[JeanSaulPartre]

It begs:

Sic transit Gloria mundi.

[Admin2]

A2 a curious question for you? You posted this about not letting him out of his cage. I truly understand. You than went to banning him. I am not question you at all just and not saying it is wrong but what throw you over the edge to change your mind?If you look around a little you will see that your question was answered a minimum of 919 times.

[Member #5141]

I think you said they are a competitor but it doesn't seem that way. Even if more people knew about that site they wouldn't stop coming to this site.

Sorry to answer in here but I need the mod console to do it.

First I want to make sure that I'm understanding your question. Are you really asking why we don't allow people to promote a competing web site on ours?

If so, then it's because Jax says you (universal you, not ImpliedFoldeq you, yinz in Pittsburg) can't.

From the desk of the Master Monger, el Jeffe, affectionately known as Jax to those of us who know him;



His ball, his bat, his rules,

A2I don't think its a competitor. You may be providing the same thing but that doesn't mean you're competitors. I could see the argument if you were both charging for membership but this is free for us (thank you!) so there's no competition for subscriptions. Being able to mention that site would give mongers more information, and isn't information the point of this site and why its successful?

Anyway, you know better than I would and you write the checks. Thanks for the reply.

[Admin2]

I don't think its a competitor. You may be providing the same thing but that doesn't mean you're competitors. I could see the argument if you were both charging for membership but this is free for us (thank you!) so there's no competition for subscriptions. Being able to mention that site would give mongers more information, and isn't information the point of this site and why its successful?

Anyway, you know better than I would and you write the checks. Thanks for the reply.I was assuming you were asking about the douchebags that register users on our site then use PM's to send invitations to their new site begging guys not to tell me about the PM's for a couple days so they can get their replies. However you said they aren't competitors.

If you're talking about TER or Backpage, you can mention them, you can link to ads on there. The rule of thumb is no sites that offer reviews because that's what we do.

If the site you're talking about starts with USA like ours then of course they are competitors. You can't talk about them for the same reason Burger King doesn't buy ads for McDonalds.

Hope that helps.

A2.

[Member #5141]

I was assuming you were asking about the douchebags that register users on our site then use PM's to send invitations to their new site begging guys not to tell me about the PM's for a couple days so they can get their replies. However you said they aren't competitors.

If you're talking about TER or Backpage, you can mention them, you can link to ads on there. The rule of thumb is no sites that offer reviews because that's what we do.

If the site you're talking about starts with USA like ours then of course they are competitors. You can't talk about them for the same reason Burger King doesn't buy ads for McDonalds.

Hope that helps.

A2.I was talking about Ter. Cool, thanks.

Some chicks have ads on TER that's cool. Don't link to reviews there, and if every post suddenly fills up with TER, TER, TER there will be an issue, but otherwise no worries.

A2

[DreamForever69]

The ' Fallen Peasant ' has sent me a PM that wasn't very nice and if anybody wants to read it just PM me and you can see for yourself that he isn't the stand up guy he portrays on these forums. On that note he and I dislike one another. He had one of his cronies PM and ask if I was jealous of him. My reply here is no because I have seen 3 Providers that he can't get a sniff of let alone a dream to the tune of 31 times and each week you can add at least 2 more to that total. I will say this though he knows my full name, where I live and where I work compliments of an old ATF. I harbor no ill will towards this provider. It is what it is. Ironically the only provider that I had interest in seeing that this jag off has seen is Jemma. So Jemma I give you kudos for not taking any shit from this FORMER SM and taking a stand. I would definitely like to have a dream with you in the future.

[Camera3]

I just got back in town for a few days before heading back on the next tour. I just read, I don't know, maybe a dozen pages or so on the Rat Trap. Lots of drama. Pretty fucking entertaining, in my humble opinion.

The week sucked for me because I was so looking forward to being in the same town as my absolute all time, all time favorite, in a little town in NC. Well, last weekend she fell off her horse and broke her leg. Pretty lame excuse for cancelling, OK, bad pun. I have a backup in that town. Her phone was disconnected. Not looking good. So, there I was, all dressed up (meaning, I had already taken the blue pill and Mr. Happy was thinking loudly) and no place to go, so I hit the BP and honed in on a MILF that sounded interesting. Well, I broke my own rule and paid the price. That was the absolute worst experience. I will be writing a review of the worst case of bait and switch non-provider of my hobby career on that local board, but, as I said, my own fault for skipping a step or two in the whole due diligence thing.

Someone things Paige and Ginger are the same girl? Really? I don't even know how to respond to that. Those two girls are not even living on the same planet. Not that one is better than the other, they are just complete opposites in pretty much every way.

Ode to Jag. So, here we are, celebrating, or mourning, the end of a legend. Hats off to A2 for really trying to give the guy a second, third, fourth or even fifth chance. In the end, the Jag was his own worst enemy. He definitely is proof that if you have lots of money you can get lots of pussy. But any of us that think we are somehow a super stud because we get laid a lot because we pay for it is delusional. So, it appears, Jag had followers that believed in him. But Jag's undoing is he believe in himself too much. Did he offer good intel? Let's see. Yeah, there is one he told me about. So, yeah, he did give some good intel in between the embellishments and pure fiction. But I will miss him.

Yes, USASG and TER are competitors. Why would anyone think they aren't?

And about A2 having to stop the car. I run into A2 as I travel. He is busy in other towns, too, so he is an equal opportunity curmudgeon. I still think he is really a pimply face kid named Sonny that he runs this board on a couple of Comodore 64's in his mom's basement in Lincoln, Nebraska. I am just grateful for the board and all the work Sonny puts into it and I sincerely hope he makes more money than he can possibly spend and keeps up the good work.

C3.

[BlackPrince]

(Leaving the bathroom after shaving).

I actually Jag, I actually like the Admin's style to a certain degree. You got to have nuts to take on the popular hobbyists for the sake of the board. First off I have been on every major board and seen things crumble. Utopia guide, Big Doggy and etc. USA Sex guide right now is the big plate, it can get even bigger. However, throwing hobbyists over the rail unless they snitched, told a girl's phone or showed her mug shot is justified. HOWEVER, if hobbyists lies to a certain degree like most of all you do. That is a different story. If you lie and never seen the girl but gave her a bad review. I do think you should be looked at twice. Admin so far handled the Little Meech situation very good. Admin handled many things really good. However he is not immune to nut riding himself. Just because you are an admin does not make you bigger than the game. In reality the girls power this game, the streets as well because that is where the girls get their street medicine from. Jag, prior to whatever he did. I really don't know because I am really out here getting girls for like 4 years now. From my understanding, he contributed more positive things than negative. If he put you onto a girl and you ain't like the girl. Well, go get the girl on you're own. Personally, I do not count on anybody getting me a girl. If a hobbyist ask me to put him on. I am always willingly to look at out for them. Do I have to do that? Na, I don't have to do that. The last girl that I thought was BAD as hell, the lebanese girl I met on Colonial, she disappeared because a cat fell in love with her. LOL I guess he saved her or whatever man. Yeah Tammy was her name. I am not going to totally blame the hobbyists because she was sort of a square from the beginning. She said, she was a real estate broker and that her rich man dropped her. However the story go, she is gone now. She was one of the baddest white girls I've seen in the street in 4 years. I cannot even lie. By the way, I see black girls 99 percent of the time but she was the exception to the rule. I give credit where its due bottom line.

Lastly, the REAL issue is there is no talent in this game. No disrespect to Jersey girl, Paige, Froggy, Joy, Nikki (she is cute), Heather, Strawberry, damn if I let you're name out I apologize for that. Outside of that, there is no talent. Banning people you do not like will not change that at all. Admin trying to make cats happy by stepping in all the time will not CHANGE THAT. If anything, the few girls that got potential will just move on. By the way, I like Savannah, but Savannah hurt the board in a way by saying that bs on backpage. Listen, Savannah had her reasons for going after cats on this board. That was on some Vino sh&t that got us dragged into it. If Vino wasn't making love to Savannah while she was off her meds. She wouldn't be jumping out the window. LOL Anyway, Vino is my guy though. Every hobbyist has done some Vino sh&t. That is why I laugh at the whole thing. If Admin wants to enforce rules, enforce them equally and fairly. Who gave Jag his own thread and turn around and ban him? Who gave Heather her own thread, yet she brushed hobbyists off, does not answer the door, she on that street medicine. Yet Jersey, Paige, Froggy, Joy and others put in "the work". Heather has talent and the looks but if you're attendance and flakiness is a problem. I wouldn't give you no damn thread.

Y'all be safe.

Drewbruski.

[JemaRae]

Seriously, I have never seen so many men worship someone that speaks about about how great he is with a woman, in a long story, when all we want to know is how the woman is. Don't really give a shit how the man performs, only the woman. I don't post on here much but since Jag has PM'd me and gave me some feedback on several providers and every one was a bust and totally different results. I'm sure some of you have ran into a few that he reported on came through because he reported on almost every woman in Orlando. I could do that just reading the board.

Just a word for the upcoming story tellers, keep it to the provider, we really don't care about what a stud you may think you are. Keep to our interests, finding a fine provider.

Sorry but had to vent after reading these.

Jema, don't know you but I lean to believing you.Well thank you! This was never a contest to me or anything like that. I just wanted it to be known that I do not offer that and never have. As for jag, that guy is something else. Even though I didn't care for him and I don't know why he got banned, but if it had anything to do with what's been going on lately. It wasnt ny intention.

[PharmaGuy]

The ' Fallen Peasant ' has sent me a PM that wasn't very nice and if anybody wants to read it just PM me and you can see for yourself that he isn't the stand up guy he portrays on these forums. On that note he and I dislike one another. He had one of his cronies PM and ask if I was jealous of him. My reply here is no because I have seen 3 Providers that he can't get a sniff of let alone a dream to the tune of 31 times and each week you can add at least 2 more to that total. I will say this though he knows my full name, where I live and where I work compliments of an old ATF. I harbor no ill will towards this provider. It is what it is. Ironically the only provider that I had interest in seeing that this jag off has seen is Jemma. So Jemma I give you kudos for not taking any shit from this FORMER SM and taking a stand. I would definitely like to have a dream with you in the future.I was worried somewhere down the line something like this could happen and that is why.

NO GIRL knows my handle.

I to found a couple of his posse coming at me, but I instilled a stance of diplomacy and that usually quelled the situation. Jag also came at me with a couple tough words though we were able to hash it out though a bevy of PM's. He was pretty livid about the circumstances so I was not surprised, but we managed to settle our differences. I guess you can say he brought this on himself, the punishment is pretty harsh, not what I wanted as the final resolution, but A2 must of had damn good reason. I think if Jag said, 'hey its their word against mine, I am going to stay above the fray and I am going back to doing what I do best and review hot providers, believe what you want' (whether erroneous or not) . I feel then the dust would have settled, peace restored and possibly a different outcome for the 'time being.' ('I say 'time being,') because in the real world if what was happening is true, it could not be continued. Though it appears like some kind of drug kingpin still ordering hits from prison, the Jag had his subordinates came after A2 with disasterous results. I tried to warn the man of the consequences, all in vain. Jag was furious after being locked in his cage and not being offered a chance of rebuttal, therefore this was his only vehicle to do so. I have never revealed my Jag file to the board or A2, and I will not since the man is not here to defend himself. I have no clue what A2 has in his Jag file but I am sure he had plethora of juicy material to justify dropping of the gavel. The Jag has to be defcon1 right now but in the end he will land on his feet, find a home elsewhere, and in the grand scheme of things I believe we have not heard the last of the Jag.

[Otwist]

I was worried somewhere down the line something like this could happen and that is why.

NO GIRL knows my handle.

I to found a couple of his posse coming at me, but I instilled a stance of diplomacy and that usually quelled the situation. Jag also came at me with a couple tough words though we were able to hash it out though a bevy of PM's. He was pretty livid about the circumstances so I was not surprised, but we managed to settle our differences. I guess you can say he brought this on himself, the punishment is pretty harsh, not what I wanted as the final resolution, but A2 must of had damn good reason. I think if Jag said, 'hey its their word against mine, I am going to stay above the fray and I am going back to doing what I do best and review hot providers, believe what you want' (whether erroneous or not) . I feel then the dust would have settled, peace restored and possibly a different outcome for the 'time being.' ('I say 'time being,') because in the real world if what was happening is true, it could not be continued. Though it appears like some kind of drug kingpin still ordering hits from prison, the Jag had his subordinates came after A2 with disasterous results. I tried to warn the man of the consequences, all in vain. Jag was furious after being locked in his cage and not being offered a chance of rebuttal, therefore this was his only vehicle to do so. I have never revealed my Jag file to the board or A2, and I will not since the man is not here to defend himself. I have no clue what A2 has in his Jag file but I am sure he had plethora of juicy material to justify dropping of the gavel. The Jag has to be defcon1 right now but in the end he will land on his feet, find a home elsewhere, and in the grand scheme of things I believe we have not heard the last of the Jag.I agree with most of what you said here and had advised Jag many times like you did to not worry about what others are saying about him. I said to him he should stop fighting with A2 and not argue with everyone hating on him. It was like running into a brick wall for him, but he just could not let it go.

My question to you and the others that are lumping people together that have said favorable things about Jag, is how come you use terms like posse, followers, minions, subordinates etc. ? You must realize those are highly insulting terms? How would you like it if you were called a follower or subordinate of Very Slowly or A2 or Vino? Not much, I would venture to guess? I can't speak for anyone else, but I don't follow anyone. I have never seen any lady that Jag saw. I asked his opinion about B2B Jackie and also asked the same question of several other board members. I decided not to see her for now based on the intel I gathered and I have something good going with someone else at the moment. I gave Jag info on 3 ladies I have seen and as far as I know, he has not seen any of them yet. I PMd with Jag and he was always super polite to me even when he did not agree with me about him to stop doing battle with those that don't care for him. I found his posts entertaining, but never spent much thought about if they were real or his imagination. I did not care one way or the other. I probably was never going to see any of them anyway. I did not judge Jag on his writing style or libido, which differ greatly from my way of doing things. Everybody does their own thing way and I try to respect that. I have a tendency to want to help an underdog or someone being picked on. Maybe that is a character flaw I have.

I am not in the Jag posse or a follower. I read what people post, PM with some of you and form my own opinions. Just because my conclusions may differ from some of you that criticize the Jag, that doen't make me some sort of minion. Probably most of the people that are being labeled as Jag cronies are much like me. We viewed the evidence presented and had our say about the situation.

Lastly I would say, I do agree that A2 does a great job. He can not tell us all what Jag did or how annoying Jag was to him. A2 has much to do and it is not fair to him to be expected to deal so much with one person. Not just dealing with Jag directly, but all of those people hating on him and everyone that had something kind to say about Jag. I responded to PharmaGuy's post, but this was not directed only to him, but everyone using highly derogatory terms like follower, minion, etc.

[Jay7005]

My two cents:

I disliked Jag. I am certain he lied multiple times. Many of his posts were either blatant fiction, or veiled advertisements. I didn't believe anything he said. I openly confronted him, called him names, and had posts wiped out by A2 because I violated TOS. I even blocked him so I wouldn't receive his PMs or be subjected to any more of his horrific posts. But even with all that animosity, I have mixed feelings about his removal from the board. It's much the same way I feel with regard to politics. I may not agree with your perspective, but I will fight for your right to speak freely. (Sorry, it's the old military man coming out.)

Jay.

[Member #4882]

This is a private members forum. Ask my infractions filled ass. But on getting rid on The Pain in The Ass Self Promoting.

What Took A2 So Long. Good Riddance. He ruined the lives of many legit LMT's.

[PharmaGuy]

I agree with most of what you said here and had advised Jag many times like you did to not worry about what others are saying about him. I said to him he should stop fighting with A2 and not argue with everyone hating on him. It was like running into a brick wall for him, but he just could not let it go.

My question to you and the others that are lumping people together that have said favorable things about Jag, is how come you use terms like posse, followers, minions, subordinates etc. ? You must realize those are highly insulting terms? How would you like it if you were called a follower or subordinate of Very Slowly or A2 or Vino? Not much, I would venture to guess? I can't speak for anyone else, but I don't follow anyone. I have never seen any lady that Jag saw. I asked his opinion about B2B Jackie and also asked the same question of several other board members. I decided not to see her for now based on the intel I gathered and I have something good going with someone else at the moment. I gave Jag info on 3 ladies I have seen and as far as I know, he has not seen any of them yet. I PMd with Jag and he was always super polite to me even when he did not agree with me about him to stop doing battle with those that don't care for him. I found his posts entertaining, but never spent much thought about if they were real or his imagination. I did not care one way or the other. I probably was never going to see any of them anyway. I did not judge Jag on his writing style or libido, which differ greatly from my way of doing things. Everybody does their own thing way and I try to respect that. I have a tendency to want to help an underdog or someone being picked on. Maybe that is a character flaw I have.

I am not in the Jag posse or a follower. I read what people post, PM with some of you and form my own opinions. Just because my conclusions may differ from some of you that criticize the Jag, that doen't make me some sort of minion. Probably most of the people that are being labeled as Jag cronies are much like me. We viewed the evidence presented and had our say about the situation.

Lastly I would say, I do agree that A2 does a great job. He can not tell us all what Jag did or how annoying Jag was to him. A2 has much to do and it is not fair to him to be expected to deal so much with one person. Not just dealing with Jag directly, but all of those people hating on him and everyone that had something kind to say about Jag. I responded to PharmaGuy's post, but this was not directed only to him, but everyone using highly derogatory terms like follower, minion, etc.You are correct, subordinate was a poor choice of words. And not necessarily aimed at you.

[WilliamMstrs]

Jag's banned, threads closed. I told him to knock it off with the minion army. Any of you guys that wish to go with him may.

If you wish to look up his old posts they are now listed under "Relentless self promoter and pain in my ass."

A2Wow, two days away and I had to scroll down to page four to catch up!

His demise was a product of his own for trying to go against A2. All he had to do was either 'fess up, or stay quiet. So his own words fashioned the noose that was used to hang him.

As far as his return, that one is easy. Just look for the next new member with yet another "King" moniker.

[Camera3]

SS,

What is The Plunger Subject?

I am just curious what I said about it and why I defended it?

I try to keep up with all the current street slang but it is hard. I just learned tonight what a Side Slice was. I have no idea why it is called that, but at least I now know what it is.

C3.


This Is What Triggers MY Suspensions. The Plunger subject has not been mentioned in about 5 pages then all the sudden defense on the subject.

SavannaSwagger.

[Member #4882]

Minion Army ID's. I called him out early is his game, but I to Violated TOS. And bit about 50 infractions. He was bragging on the board and back channel that he had gotten rid of me. Decided to lay low until he self distructed.


My two cents:

I disliked Jag. I am certain he lied multiple times. Many of his posts were either blatant fiction, or veiled advertisements. I didn't believe anything he said. I openly confronted him, called him names, and had posts wiped out by A2 because I violated TOS. I even blocked him so I wouldn't receive his PMs or be subjected to any more of his horrific posts. But even with all that animosity, I have mixed feelings about his removal from the board. It's much the same way I feel with regard to politics. I may not agree with your perspective, but I will fight for your right to speak freely. (Sorry, it's the old military man coming out.)

Jay.


Wow, two days away and I had to scroll down to page four to catch up!

His demise was a product of his own for trying to go against A2. All he had to do was either 'fess up, or stay quiet. So his own words fashioned the noose that was used to hang him.

As far as his return, that one is easy. Just look for the next new member with yet another "King" moniker.

[Outdoorsman]

I say good for A2 for dealing with it, also have come to enjoy his dry sense of humor. "Dad is going to stop the car" is hysterical.

I stopped reading Jags illeistic pontifications some time ago. He lost me when he told us how to groom ourselves.

I do think he made some great contributions (and tossed around a bunch of bullshit) but in the end just felt bad for him. I too reached out to him and he was nice enough to reply but also made (but as now appears to be common) asked that I publicly call him out and thank him. I did so but as I read future call outs I realized they must have received the same request.

I've met Jag dozens do times (not literally) at the office, sitting next to him on a plane, at a party, on the first tee, etc. In the begining you think what a nice charming knowledgable guy but before too long you realize this guy won't shut up and is constantly building castles in the sky and validating / promoting himself. With these guys it also comes down to them promoting how much money they want you to think they have.

I respect those that think he hung the moon too.

Maybe this is a good thing for him so he can take stock in himself, I know I have to do that from time to time but agree with a previous post that he's still here under one of his other names.

[Admin2]

I've read lots of guys wondering or speculating why the ax fell. I got an email from him accusing me of being jealous of him. Some said it was the content.

Jealousy is ludicrous, I earn a shit ton of money when leveraged with the local economy here, [clarification: I'm not saying I earn a shit ton of money. It would be modest in the USA, but here it's a ton] I'm single, have a nice apartment in a huge house that has a stripper pole in the living room, live in a beautiful city that has 30,000 sex workers, and the hobby isn't against the law. I could proposition a lady cop, in uniform, standing in front of a judge, on camera and wouldn't get arrested. Here's the real kicker, I get PAID to do this. I wouldn't trade my life for anybodies.

Content, go to Detroit and read Motor City Mayhem, those guys fucking hate me and I haven't banned any of them.

Really, at the end of the day it was time. I moderate 8,000 odd threads on this forum, Orlando has 20. We appreciate the hell out of the membership here but nobodies paying any money and we have found out that while individuals hate it, the collective wants the douchebaggery limited. He wanted to build a cult of personality. Only Jackson, and myself to a lesser degree, are allowed to do that. It's Jax's right as the owner, and my responsibility to nudge the forum in ways we want it to go. We can't move it, there are too many of you guys, but a year or so ago we decided that we really wanted to stop most of the fighting on the review threads so we started cracking down on them and created threads like this. Now guys that don't want to get into the social spatting and are just here for the pussy can read what they want. Take a look at the Front Page stats sometime, there are usually 3 X guests for every member. Our advertisers pay for those guys and we put our money on the fact that most of them want to come here anonymously, read about pussy, and not waste time. Our numbers have proved us right.

I have formed my own opinion regarding the purpose of his posting, you all are welcome to evaluate the data and form yours. I have to admit it was quite a learning experience for me. At the end of the day his self promotion and refusal to do what I told him to do, constantly pushing every rule and restriction to the limit, and knowing that was never, ever going to stop, just took up too much of my time. Have we seen the last of him? Hardly. I'm sure my work has not come to an end, but that's why I make the big money.

Good day,

A2.

[Tungphumaster]

It might be ludacris, but I think I am a little jealous of A2. Keep up the good work and party on!


I've read lots of guys wondering or speculating why the ax fell. I got an email from him accusing me of being jealous of him. Some said it was the content.

Jealousy is ludicrous, I earn a shit ton of money when leveraged with the local economy here, [clarification: I'm not saying I earn a shit ton of money. It would be modest in the USA, but here it's a ton] I'm single, have a nice apartment in a huge house that has a stripper pole in the living room, live in a beautiful city that has 30,000 sex workers, and the hobby isn't against the law. I could proposition a lady cop, in uniform, standing in front of a judge, on camera and wouldn't get arrested. Here's the real kicker, I get PAID to do this. I wouldn't trade my life for anybodies.

Content, go to Detroit and read Motor City Mayhem, those guys fucking hate me and I haven't banned any of them.

Really, at the end of the day it was time. I moderate 8,000 odd threads on this forum, Orlando has 20. We appreciate the hell out of the membership here but nobodies paying any money and we have found out that while individuals hate it, the collective wants the douchebaggery limited. He wanted to build a cult of personality. Only Jackson, and myself to a lesser degree, are allowed to do that. It's Jax's right as the owner, and my responsibility to nudge the forum in ways we want it to go. We can't move it, there are too many of you guys, but a year or so ago we decided that we really wanted to stop most of the fighting on the review threads so we started cracking down on them and created threads like this. Now guys that don't want to get into the social spatting and are just here for the pussy can read what they want. Take a look at the Front Page stats sometime, there are usually 3 X guests for every member. Our advertisers pay for those guys and we put our money on the fact that most of them want to come here anonymously, read about pussy, and not waste time. Our numbers have proved us right.

I have formed my own opinion regarding the purpose of his posting, you all are welcome to evaluate the data and form yours. I have to admit it was quite a learning experience for me. At the end of the day his self promotion and refusal to do what I told him to do, constantly pushing every rule and restriction to the limit, and knowing that was never, ever going to stop, just took up too much of my time. Have we seen the last of him? Hardly. I'm sure my work has not come to an end, but that's why I make the big money.

Good day,

A2.

[CflMonger48]

I come here to find out about the pussy that is out there and to stay safe. I also travel the country for business and can tell you that this forum is one of the most active and up to date. As I have mentioned previously I have heard enough opinions (unsolicited) from the street about the Jag, and they are not all flattering. If he wants to live his luve vicariously through his stories then let him do that in his sandbox. I never called him out but knew he was bs based on the reviews. I keep track and know for a fact I spend over $30 k a year on the hobby (no, not all here in Orlando, in fact only a small amount here as most is during my trips abroad) and I make a very decent luving. I doubt the Jag does half of want he writes about unless he is independently wealthy, which I doubt. In fact more than one provider has many overatures that he owes money for past dealings in which he did not have the coin on him. Let's just focus more on the pursuit of pussy and less on the fictional tales of one character.

Thank you A2 for finally calling BS.

Be safe out there.

[World Peace]

Wow. Has Christmas arrived early this year?!

Thanks so much for getting him off the board. I was getting so tired of seeing his bs flooded all over this board. It was clearly storytelling and total bs. He would also attack quality providers to help out himself with 'his girls'. I actually started to not log on here as much as he was toxic.

Thanks again for keeping it real.