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Checkers123
08-31-19, 17:39
There was providers on there to send a warning to other mongers about staying away, its public knowledge and educational. Would I want to be on there no, of course not. I also pick my spots very carefully. That is a dumb question. You have 49 posts and I'm sure about to be 50 and a lot of it is on this thread. Keep trolling.With all due respect GuyDetroit, if you read what the admin of the site posted (see post below) it's very clear what you did was wrong. Why not just learn from it instead of lashing out?
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EDITOR'S NOTE: This report was edited to remove the mugshots of persons who were arrested from the report.
Posting the mugshots of people who have been arrested is somewhat heartless and really just helping the police in their efforts to embarrass these people.
Since this website is all about assisting people in obtaining commercial sex services, we don't want to add to the problems of the unfortunate people who have been arrested by publishing their names and/or photographs.
Thanks!
Apparently Ching-a-ling is sold at Lovers Lane. It's supposed to be "all natural and made in America" Blah blah blah. My buddy said he walked in and asked about what they had in that area and the workers actually recommended it. They frequently run out. So I went and checked it out. It's fuckin expensive at $12 per pill. Says it oyster extract. All these drugs make me nervous, even Viagra and Cialis.I got written up for an infraction for talking about medications and where you can get them cheap. Be careful.
I got written up for an infraction for talking about medications and where you can get them cheap. Be careful.I checked, in ten years I've sanctioned one member for talking about drugs and he was trying to buy opioids.
You might have been one of those guys who were trying to go into business selling V and I told to move it to the Vitamin V thread but I have never done what you're saying we did here.
A2
I checked, in ten years I've sanctioned one member for talking about drugs and he was trying to buy opioids.
You might have been one of those guys who were trying to go into business selling V and I told to move it to the Vitamin V thread but I have never done what you're saying we did here.
A2Sorry man. I was written up last week by a moderator. It said something about an argumentative post but I hadn't made one except the viagra post.
That was done by the new mod and it wasn't documented. I suspect it was a mistake mostly because it was antagonistic not argumentative which we don't really use. I deleted the infraction.
Go and sin some more my son.
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TheTrackStar
12-17-19, 22:41
Does anyone have any update on her condition?
I'd like to send her flowers or something. She is a good person, just caught up in this life.
If anyone has the hospital and her name in hospital, would you PM me.
Thank you.OMG, bro she's a hooker that only spends time with you because you pay her. Some of you guys really need a wake-up call, this chick wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire, that is unless you paid her 20 dollars.
OMG, bro she's a hooker that only spends time with you because you pay her. Some of you guys really need a wake-up call, this chick wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire, that is unless you paid her 20 dollars.I understand your criticism and views. It's a free country.
Some of us do like some of these providers. I have long valued likeability highly as a quality in a lady. Some of them are pleasant, gracious and kind. A few good examples are Fatima, Monica from Warren, slim blond Nicole from around the airport years ago. And also this Amanda from Ohio. I have always preferred their company over ones like Molly on Telegraph or Paige down by Fort or even the legendary DT of Gem #34 on Michigan in Detroit. These girls were and are bitches. I do know 99% of them are in it for our money for crack and heroin. That's true for all the above girls.
Amanda is no saint. She has her problems. But I think she liked it when I took her out. I know I did. I hope she recovers well. I'll send her flowers if I can. I'd rather they be to her in recovery than to her funeral. It's my call and I know exactly what she is. Eyes wide open. But I am not heartless.
Seems like you end up on this part of the board often, this is my first time. I posted it as a warning, it was on the news for all to see anyways.This is not your forum. You are a member, not a manager, and not an owner. Your reasoning is irrelevant. Follow the rules. If you don't know or are not sure, ask before posting. This is a site for providing sex info not outing those arrested. The reasoning of warning others is bullshit. There are warnings in this forum all the time without posting names or pics.
SlowPoke69
12-19-19, 10:24
I understand your criticism and views. It's a free country.
Some of us do like some of these providers. I have long valued likeability highly as a quality in a lady. Some of them are pleasant, gracious and kind. A few good examples are Fatima, Monica from Warren, slim blond Nicole from around the airport years ago. And also this Amanda from Ohio. I have always preferred their company over ones like Molly on Telegraph or Paige down by Fort or even the legendary DT of Gem #34 on Michigan in Detroit. These girls were and are bitches. I do know 99% of them are in it for our money for crack and heroin. That's true for all the above girls.
Amanda is no saint. She has her problems. But I think she liked it when I took her out. I know I did. I hope she recovers well. I'll send her flowers if I can. I'd rather they be to her in recovery than to her funeral. It's my call and I know exactly what she is. Eyes wide open. But I am not heartless.Half to agree Amanda has her problems as many do. She was always personal on dates and show a interest in the date. The damage done to her not even the less desirable don't deserve the damage and possible long term disability she may have suffered. Their human beings and many are great people with families who care very much for them and hope they find a way back to them.
TheTrackStar
12-21-19, 10:25
Its been reported that she is in ********** room ****.Someone beat this girl half to death and now you post the hostipal and room number where she's at so they can finish the job. You have to be one of the dumbest mother fuckers that has ever posted on this site. When you reply to this post take a look under the text box where you type your reply / post and read where it says NO PERSONALLY IDENTIFYING INFO! If you post anyone's last name or street address your membership will be deleted automatically in red letters.
TheTrackStar
12-21-19, 11:03
Maybe it's better to keep a distance for now since the family requested respect for their privacy and when the situation hopefully improves we could step in and provide her with the support she deserves in a discrete way. Think of this as a new life for her.
Personally I never got anything but kindness from Amanda whenever we hung out and knowing someone did this to her makes me feel so angry and sad.Someone gets it.
I understand your criticism and views. It's a free country.
Some of us do like some of these providers. I have long valued likeability highly as a quality in a lady. Some of them are pleasant, gracious and kind. A few good examples are Fatima, Monica from Warren, slim blond Nicole from around the airport years ago. And also this Amanda from Ohio. I have always preferred their company over ones like Molly on Telegraph or Paige down by Fort or even the legendary DT of Gem #34 on Michigan in Detroit. These girls were and are bitches. I do know 99% of them are in it for our money for crack and heroin. That's true for all the above girls.
Amanda is no saint. She has her problems. But I think she liked it when I took her out. I know I did. I hope she recovers well. I'll send her flowers if I can. I'd rather they be to her in recovery than to her funeral. It's my call and I know exactly what she is. Eyes wide open. But I am not heartless.I'm not saying to be heartless but there are boundaries that you don't cross in the hobby. Buying a girl something to eat because she hasn't eaten all day, or a new winter coat because it's so fucking cold is fine. But when you do something that will cross a boundary then you are out of line. Hypothetical Example. You get in a bad car accident and end up in the hospital, your wife, kids, mom, dad, in-laws, etc, are standing around your bed praying for your recovery and then flowers get delivered from your ATF hooker. Is that cool? As a man if your daughter was in the hospital and flowers start showing up from her johns would you be OK with that? Like Kliffslp said, you (all of you guys) need to show the family a little respect by staying away.
Do you really think she gives a fuck about the flowers you sent her? She's dopesick, she could care less. It's not going to brighten her day in anyway. Do you really think she gives two fucks about you? If you lost your job tomorrow do you think she would give you a BJ for half price because you were so nice / good to her in the past?
You're not heartless, but you're not thinking clearly either.
P.S. 100% are out there for the money to buy drugs. No girl 18 to mid 20's wakes up one morning and says I think I'll start sucking random dicks for 20 dollars so I can send my kids to a good collage.
BigBlockChuck
12-21-19, 12:00
Trackstar. Unlike you, I actually know the circumstances behind this incident. I stand by my post. . You obviously don't know the streets. .
What was on the menu? What was the amount?
Words like "pricing BEGINS at" make me lose interest. Is there a lot of upselling?Why are so many guys reluctant to text or call a girl. Once you think you're interested, man up. Use your phone. I can't begin to tell how many PMs are about the dumbest minor details.
Not to pick on this poster, but if you lose interest, maybe move on. Silently
Why are so many guys reluctant to text or call a girl. Once you think you're interested, man up. Use your phone. I can't begin to tell how many PMs are about the dumbest minor details.
Not to pick on this poster, but if you lose interest, maybe move on. SilentlyNot sure what your point is by linking to my post. Perhaps you have some general gripe.
I don't think I've ever pmed you. If your point is I can gather this info by "man ing up" and texting her, you missed my point. Her post has red flag language that indicates upselling. That is not a dumb minor detail. This board is about sharing info if you have something to share about her, please do so. If not, then move on. Silently.
Not sure what your point is by linking to my post. Perhaps you have some general gripe.
I don't think I've ever pmed you. If your point is I can gather this info by "man ing up" and texting her, you missed my point. Her post has red flag language that indicates upselling. That is not a dumb minor detail. This board is about sharing info if you have something to share about her, please do so. If not, then move on. Silently.You're correct, mine is a general gripe. At the same time, if the girl's Ad contains a written, and thus obvious, red flag, what need is there to post that?
Check it out. Not to brag but I'm a are veteran. Straight Og I have dreamed of plenty: halo, famous, blonde, Christian, Asian Liz, Liz (Montana), Melanie, Juicy, Fatima, Jetta, Mercedes, April, Rayna, Strawberry, Jody, Julia, Daffani, Nikki (by 6 mile) Nikki on ketting, Connie, Katie, Middle eastern looking girl I forgot her name, toothless Michelle just to name a few but I must sau Amber is the undisputed hands down BBJCIM best. I really miss dreaming of her. Some idiot murdered her. What a waste of talent. Any info about any of the mentioned above please let me know. I'm going to Conqer the ave next. Good day mongers.If you're such a "Straight OG veteran" of the streets then be man enough to say you paid for some pussy and stop the newbie dream BS.
Trackstar. Unlike you, I actually know the circumstances behind this incident. I stand by my post. . You obviously don't know the streets..If you know the circumstances, why don't you provide info to the police?
If you're such a "Straight OG veteran" of the streets then be man enough to say you paid for some pussy and stop the newbie dream BS.Yes, that post was one of the biggest douche canoe posts I've seen in a while, and considering this forum, that is saying a lot. He probably stands on the hood of his car after a dream, and beats his chest, Tarzan-style in front of The Rathskeller.
CommanderThicc
12-26-19, 05:17
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Anyone know A good provider DownRiver that's good at BBBJWS? I usually C Shawna Anne or Gale when I'm being cheap. But looking for another. Thanks.When the fuck aren't you being cheap you broke-ass littlebitch. And when a girl tells you to kickrocks with your lowball offer you come one here and post shit about her just to fuck with her money.
For those that did not read my complete report, please don't PM me and ask for her digits. She is LookingforA10's score so ask him. She has been talked about quite a bit on here so I assume you probably have already asked A10 for the digits and were shot down (due to low post count, new member, non senior?).....I guess try and contribute more. These are just general comments..... Thank you.
LookingForA10
12-27-19, 12:55
For those that did not read my complete report, please don't PM me and ask for her digits. She is LookingforA10's score so ask him. She has been talked about quite a bit on here so I assume you probably have already asked A10 for the digits and were shot down (due to low post count, new member, non senior?).....I guess try and contribute more. These are just general comments..... Thank you.LOL, you're probably getting the guys I've ignored. You couldn't have said it better, senior or not you have to contribute, not just sign up and start asking questions.
TheTrackStar
12-27-19, 19:06
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I honestly can't believe you did this. You posted the name of the hospital and room number on a public sex board. Think about that for a second, and the ONLY way you are alowed to put up a post justifying it is if it is accompanied by
1. A scan of your actual drivers license showing your picture, name and address.
2. A scan of a current utility bill showing your name and address.
3. A rental agreement or scan of a mortgage payment showing your name and address.
If it's ok for you to put information on the forum that gives her exact location where anybody could find her while she's in a compromised state then I think it's only fair that you do the same thing to yourself. Don't you agree?
If you ever post anything like this again I'll ban your account, no warning.
A2
Trackstar. Unlike you, I actually know the circumstances behind this incident. I stand by my post. . You obviously don't know the streets. .So, do you still stand by your post dumb ass? You may know the streets but you haven't a clue when it comes to common sense or monger etiquette. Some of you guys (not just BigBlockChuck) really need to think before you type.
Monger Etiquette: Do unto others as you would have them do unto you. If you don't want your personal info post online then don't post someone else's. If you don't want your mugshot posted online then don't post someone else's. Etc, etc.
http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4500-Streetwalker-Reports&p=4580956&viewfull=1#post4580956
You can give these Hoes all your $. But I'm not paying one of these Gutter Sluts more than 20-50 $ to Suck Me Off. You Wish you Could Go Deep Ya little *****.
TheTrackStar
12-28-19, 12:45
You can give these Hoes all your $. But I'm not paying one of these Gutter Sluts more than 20-50 $ to Suck Me Off. You Wish you Could Go Deep Ya little *****.???
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HbvYeLxMKN8
When the fuck aren't you being cheap you broke-ass littlebitch. And when a girl tells you to kickrocks with your lowball offer you come one here and post shit about her just to fuck with her money.Agree and dis-agree with your comments. First off, it's one thing to ask a provider to lower their rates, that I would not do, nor would I agree with anyone doing that. It's totally different to seek providers that have cheap rates, that is IMHO. . totally is up to you. I had this discussion with a friend at work who also visits providers from time to time. I put it like this. "sometimes when you are hungry, a Burger King value meal will "hold you over", other times, only a steak dinner will satisfy your appetite".
Not knowing the OP, I assumed he was looking for "value meals" not steak dinners that he could obtain for value meal prices.
I actually very seldom go for the steak dinner, main reason is its mostly all fake anyway, we (us mongers) are nothing more than a meal ticket to these providers, so I find it hard to pay the extra for "better acting". At the end of the day, you got to do what you want with your $$, and some of us choose to "eat cheap" knowing that all just a business for the providers.
Again, not all providers are the same, I certainly would like to see everyone find a "steak dinner" for a value meal price. I have found a few in my day, but those don't seem hang in the biz for very long.
Agree and dis-agree with your comments. First off, it's one thing to ask a provider to lower their rates, that I would not do, nor would I agree with anyone doing that. It's totally different to seek providers that have cheap rates, that is IMHO. . totally is up to you. I had this discussion with a friend at work who also visits providers from time to time. I put it like this. "sometimes when you are hungry, a Burger King value meal will "hold you over", other times, only a steak dinner will satisfy your appetite".
Not knowing the OP, I assumed he was looking for "value meals" not steak dinners that he could obtain for value meal prices.
I actually very seldom go for the steak dinner, main reason is its mostly all fake anyway, we (us mongers) are nothing more than a meal ticket to these providers, so I find it hard to pay the extra for "better acting". At the end of the day, you got to do what you want with your $$, and some of us choose to "eat cheap" knowing that all just a business for the providers.
Again, not all providers are the same, I certainly would like to see everyone find a "steak dinner" for a value meal price. I have found a few in my day, but those don't seem hang in the biz for very long.I couldn't agree more, I never bargain, if I don't like their price I just walk. Usually they make a lower offer when I walk. (thinking with my big head).
It has been some time since I had been in The Big D, but came this year for family holiday events, staying at the beautiful Royal Oak. Used the Are as a sidecut way to get where I needed to be this morning and around 11 caught a real tiny spinner doll by the corner of The Are and Lantz. All of about 5'1" and 105 lbs, brown hair, looked underage but assured me she was 19, and went by the name of Trish. Only had a Jackson on me, and didn't want to bring my wallet out at an ATM. I never use a rubber, anyone who wants me to wear one, I drop them. The presidential portrait got me a deliciously satisfying BBBJTCIM and it went down the gullet and not down to the curb. Service was provided behind one of the Are's old warehouse factories that had seen better days and nobody around for miles it seemed. She telled me that she was new in town from Indiana and that she was bunking in with a couple of other streetwalkers that seemingly were all up for group action if I had more Jacksons to share.If you're worried about a 5'1" - 105 lb girl kicking your ass and taking your wallet, you might to find a new hobby.
I couldn't agree more, I never bargain, if I don't like their price I just walk. Usually they make a lower offer when I walk. (thinking with my big head).
Agree and dis-agree with your comments. First off, it's one thing to ask a provider to lower their rates, that I would not do, nor would I agree with anyone doing that. It's totally different to seek providers that have cheap rates, that is IMHO. . totally is up to you. I had this discussion with a friend at work who also visits providers from time to time. I put it like this. "sometimes when you are hungry, a Burger King value meal will "hold you over", other times, only a steak dinner will satisfy your appetite".
Not knowing the OP, I assumed he was looking for "value meals" not steak dinners that he could obtain for value meal prices.
I actually very seldom go for the steak dinner, main reason is its mostly all fake anyway, we (us mongers) are nothing more than a meal ticket to these providers, so I find it hard to pay the extra for "better acting". At the end of the day, you got to do what you want with your $$, and some of us choose to "eat cheap" knowing that all just a business for the providers.
Again, not all providers are the same, I certainly would like to see everyone find a "steak dinner" for a value meal price. I have found a few in my day, but those don't seem hang in the biz for very long.I think you two missed my point. I'm not chastising BigD420 for negotiating rates, I'm chastising him for slandering provider (s) when they don't accept his half price offer.
This might be a shock to you two but there are guys that will use good or bad reviews to get a deal.
I cruised sparingly nowadays but it's been a while since I've seen a"hottie " out there but I was driving Vernor east of junction and I see this cute early 20's thin hottie dark har, maybe red? She had a hoddie, I've never seen a girl that hot in that area, unfortunately I was with someone in the car! That was a real bummer since it was so obvious she was working looking at all the cars and couldn't pick her up! Anyone has any idea who she is?I had someone in the car.
I was late for work.
No cash on me.
The sun was in my eyes
Every once in awhile a guy comes on here asking about a girl he seen on street X and makes up some BS excuse why he didn't pick her up. They need reassurance that she's legit. Some advice, you're never going to get your dick wet if you just don't pull the trigger.
I had someone in the car.
I was late for work.
No cash on me.
The sun was in my eyes
Every once in awhile a guy comes on here asking about a girl he seen on street X and makes up some BS excuse why he didn't pick her up. They need reassurance that she's legit. Some advice, you're never going to get your dick wet if you just don't pull the trigger.I personally have had that happened many times to me out cruising. It's funny how it's always the members that their posts hold the least amount of water with reliable information of actually ever doing anything with a provider, that get here on the mayhem and raise the most hell chastising other members. What did you not get your Christmas present or get your duck sucked to go after not just one but two members. Maybe do a dozen reliable posts in the next 6 months, not 39 bulshit posts over a couple years, and maybe your words will mean something here.
You can give these Hoes all your $. But I'm not paying one of these Gutter Sluts more than 20-50 $ to Suck Me Off. You Wish you Could Go Deep Ya little *****.These mongers that think they can take these providers off the street and make them their live in sex slave and to suck your dick every morning for giving the money for their candy or to pay for their methadone, you all know who you are, because the girls talk about you, the guy they're fucking over when they're in Detroit giving us a BBBJ for. 20 or FS for .40- .60 for more candy, while you're at work trying to support their ass and try to convince yourself that you're doing something good for them. If these girls want to get clean, they sure ain't going to do it with your ass, so save yourself some grief in 2020 and go find a real woman if you want to live in girlfriend. You're missing the whole concept, we pay them to service and leave and they use us to get their candy.
That's exactly why I posted. This forum seems mostly for verification of questionable ads. I used to know where to find established providers who you really didn't have to worry about being legit, but those sites are all going away.
This girls has at least 1 ad a day, at all hours. Kinda screams "pimp" at the very least.
And I'm way too cautious to TOFTT which is why I asked about her. I realize that makes me kinda a selfish poster, especially here, but hey, I like to be careful.
Why do you say the ad screams pimp (CarGuyF599 only please)?
OK, probably a little harsh, I admit.
Constant ads being pumped out at 3 am, 9 am, 2 pm, 10 pm, etc. All scream of at the very least, desperation, to me. Does this girl ever sleep? Evr take a day off? I know they're not f-ing clients 24/7 and got to get what they can, but it seems too much.
Then again maybe it's just the nature of STG, got to stay on page 1.You're not being harsh, you're just paranoid and a little dumb. 1) It's 2020, most of these escort sites have auto posting and or scrape ads from other sites to make them look a little busier then they really are. 2) Pimps don't post ads (they make the girls do it), the only thing pimps do is collect the money. 3) A lot of these girls live in the hotels they work out of so they have nothing to do but get high and post ads. 4) All girls selling pussy are on crack and or heroin. 5) A true red-flag for a girl having a pimp is, she's selling pussy online. I don't understand why guys piss themselves because a girl has a pimp. If it wasn't for pimps there would only be about a tenth of the pussy there is for sale.
You really should stick to the safe local boards where all you need is 200 dollars and 2 references because you really have no idea what you're doing outside of the local boards.
I haven't posted in awhile, been working real hard. And my New Year's Eve wasn't what I thought it would be. So I had to make up for it. Hit the are about 6 in the morning and ran across Kelly. She's got a nice body. Asked her if she had a friend we can play with and she was all for it. She has a friend named Roxy. Definitely a spinner body. Cute little a cups with big nipples and not deflated. This girl loves to talk dirty. I normally don't do this and I don't recommend it to you guys, but she had a house all to herself. So I went for it. We get her girl and head to the house. She kicks out her male roommate and locks the door. Since I'm not in a hurry I let them do there thing. They both get naked and play with their candy. We're just talking and relaxing. Then Kelly walks over and gives Roxy a deep kiss and start rubbing on each other. Then they come over to me, and pull my shoes and pants off. Rocky starts sucking my dick and Kelly tells her to stop being greedy. They proceeded to fight over my dick with their lips. Roxy loses out and goes for my boys that's her second prize. After while we decide to spread the blankets on the floor for more room. I sit down with a pillow at my back against a chair. Roxy lays down and starts sucking my dick. Kelly lay down and starts eating her pussy. I'm just enjoying the show. Roxy starts getting close and raises her legs. I reach over her and pull both her legs behind her head. That's when Kelly starts eating it deep. Poor girl could barely keep my dick in her mouth. Afterwards I challenge Roxy to sit on my dick. She's such a small thing that I was sure she was struggling. I could barely get a finger and her pussy. To her credit she lubes my dick up and forces it in herself. I took a minute but she made it down to the base my dick. And then slowly starts to ride. I decide we need to switch to doggy style. This girl can take a pounding once he's warmed up. But I love watching those lips stretch around me. Because Kelly been sitting off to the side playing with the candy, I decide she needs to be punished. So I immediately pull out of Roxy and stick it in Kelly. No warning or nothing. I could go on but suffice to say a good time was had by all. This all started a little after 7 and I didn't get out of there till 1 pm And all it cost me was $. 20. Definitely a good Bang for my bucks. And no I won't give out any information till she tells me it's okay. Which means I have to go back to the house again. You know none of these girls can keep a phone.
Disclaimer: The above is only a fantasy and should not be construed in any way that implies the commission of any act in violation of any local, state or federal laws.Am I the only one that thinks this post reads like a Penthouse Forum letter? Also your disclaimer is just dumb. It's a safe bet that a black helicopter isn't going to land on your front lawn and take you away because you mouth pumped some hooker for 20 bucks and then posted about it on the internet.
These mongers that think they can take these providers off the street and make them their live in sex slave and to suck your dick every morning for giving the money for their candy or to pay for their methadone, you all know who you are, because the girls talk about you, the guy they're fucking over when they're in Detroit giving us a BBBJ for. 20 or FS for .40- .60 for more candy, while you're at work trying to support their ass and try to convince yourself that you're doing something good for them. If these girls want to get clean, they sure ain't going to do it with your ass, so save yourself some grief in 2020 and go find a real woman if you want to live in girlfriend. You're missing the whole concept, we pay them to service and leave and they use us to get their candy.
I personally have had that happened many times to me out cruising. It's funny how it's always the members that their posts hold the least amount of water with reliable information of actually ever doing anything with a provider, that get here on the mayhem and raise the most hell chastising other members. What did you not get your Christmas present or get your duck sucked to go after not just one but two members. Maybe do a dozen reliable posts in the next 6 months, not 39 bulshit posts over a couple years, and maybe your words will mean something here.This is kind of funny, one post you're chastising mongers for playing captain save a hoe and the next you're playing captain save a monger.
However, she never quits talking. On and on and on! Put something in her mouth to stop that.How many times are you going to tell that same lame ass joke?
JoeDocks11
01-09-20, 23:26
How many times are you going to tell that same lame ass joke?It's not a joke. It's a warning to those that haven't experienced it yet. Have you?
CommonSteve666
01-10-20, 10:03
Am I the only one that thinks this post reads like a Penthouse Forum letter? Also your disclaimer is just dumb. It's a safe bet that a black helicopter isn't going to land on your front lawn and take you away because you mouth pumped some hooker for 20 bucks and then posted about it on the internet.Same sentiment can be directed to those who keep dreaming of their visits. For those who dream about things, who / what do you think you're protecting yourself from? I've never understood it so if someone who actually dreams or includes these disclaimers can explain, I'd like to hear why.
Same sentiment can be directed to those who keep dreaming of their visits. For those who dream about things, who / what do you think you're protecting yourself from? I've never understood it so if someone who actually dreams or includes these disclaimers can explain, I'd like to hear why.How about "candy?" It just sounds like baby talk. Just say she's on DRUGS!
How about "candy?" It just sounds like baby talk. Just say she's on DRUGS!Dude.
Chill, relax, wank one off, take a deep breath, calm the fuck down.
It's not a joke. It's a warning to those that haven't experienced it yet. Have you?It's a warning? You're warning us that she talks too much? What's next, you're going to warn us that a provider blinks too much? You don't give warnings over dumb shit like that, you warn us about providers that rob or cheat us. You're trying to be cool and funny by saying "put something in her mouth to stop that." That's a dumb joke that makes you look like a tool not a warning.
Yes I have seen her a few years ago back in the Mid-West days. Nice girl, great body, good attitude, likes to suck and fuck. I really can't say anything bad about her except her rates seem to be all over the place. One day it's 100 for the half the next it's 150. Again this was years ago I have no idea what she's like now.
All the shit these so called providers pull nowadays, not to mention very few of them are hot, you're going to cry over and over again about her talking too much. And who's too say what to much is, I'm sure there are some mongers out there that would rather have a provider talk a little too much then awkward silence.
As a clean cut gentleman from the suburbs I have no business being in some dark alley in the dirty ass city of Detroit. I'm sure most of the men here will agree with me. Getting gas, something to drink, or even a few tacos from the taco truck is OK, but alleys, abandoned houses or garages are not my style. If you want to called it scared, cool. I call it being smart enough to know where I don't belong.
From reading your past posts you are definitely a product of the fine city of Detroit, I'm sure that's why you feel comfortable living on the edge.
Didn't we talk about this just a few months ago? http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4500-Streetwalker-Reports&p=3729620&viewfull=1#post3729620.
It's amateurs like you that only learn the hard way.
P.S. I'd rather get my car taken by LE then get robbed (or even worse) in a dark alley. Getting out of your safe car to do a date is crazy IMO. These Detroit streets are dangerous enough without guys like you posting bad advice that might get someone in trouble. Please use some common sense when out on the streets and posting.
Thank you.
Come on man (and everyone else), enough with the dream BS.
You seem to have an axe to grind with Taylor Rose, over 3 years worth of bad mouthing her. Time to move on and get over it.
You have been going there for years and you don't know if they have a VIP, or if they do extras?
I don't even know what to say {rolling eyes}.
Looks like MR Williams crawled under a rock and isn't coming out. That is until he makes another account to show his love for Adrianne.
Seriously guys, is anyone going to call BS on this? No cell phones were allowed but you had to show the text (on your cell phone) to get in.
Ding! Ding! Ding! That's right, you win what's behind door number two LOL.
BarryWillimas9, AKA BadKevin, AKA MarshallArts59, are all the same psycho stalker that's madly in love with a junkie hooker named Adrianne.
Would you like to go for the grand prize, A NEW CAR?
Fast69, what do you tell them when they ask where you're coming from and where you're going? Sure telling them that you got a call and that's why you stopped is an OK excuse for stopping, but they are going to ask you what you're doing in the area. Also what would you do if the LEO asked you to show him or her your call log to prove you just got an incoming call? Sure you don't have to prove anything to them, it's your right to pull over in your car and use your phone, even if it is in an area well known for drugs and prostitution. It's also the LEO right to charge you with "loitering in a place of illegal occupation." LE isn't dumb, you're not going to fool them with your dumb excuses. The only thing you're going to do is piss him or her off and get yourself in even more trouble.
Fast69, I don't know what your deal is but you really seem to think and then post out your ass. If you want to do dumb shit and get yourself in trouble that's cool, its on you. But when you post bad advice that might get a newer member in trouble I just have to speak up.
The going rate for a real metro Detroit escort is 200 to 300 an hour. I keep ask for links to these escorts that work for 100 to 150 an hour but no one can seem to prove me wrong. Put up or shut up shit talkers.
The only guys that will think any of these are good ideas are the guys that are more dumb then you. This is almost as dumb as the guy who had the idea of us pulling our money together to by a house in Detroit to take SW to.
Maybe if you opened your fucking eyes and RTFF you would have seen the forum titled "Viagra & other Performance Enhancements."
http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/forumdisplay.php?272-Viagra-amp-other-Performance-Enhancements
Sure guys fucking escorts might have a recommendation for you, but so would guys fucking strippers, streetwalkers, massage girls, UTR, chicks, etc. So maybe it would of fit better in the fucking General Reports thread or haven't you seen that either?
When you post about ED pills in an escort thread or burn phones in the streetwalker thread you're hijacking the thread (taking it off topic).
https://www.google.com/search?q=hijack+a+thread&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-1
As you can see a few other dipshits that don't know how to port a post replied to your post taking that thread even more off topic. Sure I maybe an asshole because I didn't say pretty please but tell me I'm wrong.
Please stop with the dream BS, it's just dumb.
Unless that $350 an hour is pesos these cheap fucks around here aren't seeing her.
You think you can get MSOG with a hot porn star looking escort for $200? You have got to be fucking kidding me. You are fucking dumb, go back to parking your car and walking up to your 10 dollar SW. It's cheap asses like you that will keep the real metro Detroit escort from ever posting on USAAC.
PS. Real escorts don't do SS, hell most of them don't do half hour appointments.
$100 to $140 for an hour, god damn you are a cheap ass motherfucker. Please post a few links to the women you're pulling for that price.
Your post was in the Escort Classified Ads - Member Discussions thread. Real escorts don't do car dates, take your cheap ass downtown.
If these girls weren't on drugs they wouldn't give us the time of day.
This should be 3 different posts, and the ripoff report should be in the ripoff report thread. How do you not know this?
She a 20 dollar junkie, stop being a pussy and pull the fucking trigger.
WTF is it with all these guys that make BS excuses why that can't pick up a SW they have never seen before? You don't need a green light, stop being a pussy and pull the trigger.
Big deal, you're out 10 bucks. Stop fucking crying.
You didn't partake because you are full of shit.
Why in the fuck would you post this in the Escort Reports thread.
Question: Is it just me or does there seem to be a shit ton of cheap mother fuckers on this forum? One guy is crying about paying cover or VIP tax, not sure which he's crying about because I never heard of a customer paying a "club fee." And the other dipshit wants a 50 dollar BJ from an escort, WTF.
A-Fucking-Men!
And while we are at it, stop with the "I didn't have time for the scoop" or the "my friend" bullshit. If you have time to drive up and down the track you have time to make the scoop. You're just to chicken shit to pick her up because she's new. And the "my friend" excuse is just dumb.
You guys remember when Kurse posted about some "private" SC party that was invite only? Not one person called BS, as a matter of fact a few of you even tried to defend him after I called BS. Here we are 3 or 4 months later and Kurse still hasn't crawled out from under his rock. Now TmcLovin77 is posting about some chick that's willing to gangbang a bunch of guys, but not one established senior member (key word being established) has confirmed she's legit. I swear to god 98% of the men on this Detroit form will believe anything they read and the other 2% are the ones posting the made up fantasy BS. Come on guys use your heads when reading this shit.
Fucking amateurs!
My "from reading your past posts" comment was directed at Wonders Wonder. If you reread my post I replied to both of you, I'm sure that's what confused you. That's what happens when you go to a Detroit "schoooo," you know what I b sayen G? I do not live nor was I raised in the ghetto, so I'm not comfortable getting my dick sucked in some alley. Just like you and Wonders Wonder are not comfortable driving through Livonia.
It's all about ones comfort level.
Does anyone have a baby-daddy to English dictionary that they can translate this for me? Thanks.
Shut the hell up. If I said it, I did it. I'm tired of you stupid ass losers.
Ewwwww, what will we ever do without you.
Been here over a year, 200 posts, and still doesn't do a Google Image search on the pics {rolling eyes}.
The answer to your question is literally one fucking post below the post you quoted. Are dumb or just fucking lazy?
I'm off my meds and you're on D's nuts.
Look cumstain, round pegs go in round holes (like your boyfriends dick in your ass). There are threads for everything on this forum, use the right thread for the right topic.
Yeah, it wasn't the first time ChaserX cried like a littlebitch.
Hey assholes, stop posting this shit in the wrong thread.
We were talking about cheap motherfuckers clamming to see escorts for X amount of dollars, you replied to GiantFunk post saying "I consider myself a "high-value" motherfucker," that maybe where some of the confusion is.
Remember its the fight thread, if you step in to it you might not like what others have to say.
Bullshit! It was just last week that you were saying that you got out of your car and walked to avoid LE from taking your car.
I don't know if you're asking if I've had a problem with LE or if I have been doing it for years because you post like you monger, fucking dumb! Yes and yes. Almost 30 years of mongering and I've had a few dealings with 36th district court.
You are you dumb fuck.
Look dipshit LE isn't dumb, they know what you're doing no matter how you hunt for SW's. If you don't have a Detroit address on your drivers license you have no business being in the hood, especially on John R. LE will think you are either buying pussy or buying dope.
That sounds like a rational excuse, because most middle aged suburban men will drive through one of the most dangerous cities in the US to avoid 20 minutes of traffic (sarcasm).
I was driving down John R years ago and got pulled over by DPD. The cop asked me where I was heading and I told him I was going to Holbrook Auto Parts in Highland Park, when he came back from his patrol car he told me "this ain't your fucking city and you don't fucking belong here," then handed me a ticket for "loitering in a place of illegal occupation." Sure the ticket got dismissed, after 3 trips downtown.
I'm trying to show you the light but you're too fucking stupid to listen.
It won't do shit because 90% of the men on this site are dumb asses just like you. I have no sympathy for you what so ever. Its been said time and time again that you don't pay up front. All you did was make her more confident to ripoff the next guy. You didn't even have the balls to tell the manager that she's ripping off his customers. You have been here a long time Tractorman and you're still thinking with the little head. Sad!
Wow, who would of thought that a girl selling pussy on the internet for 100 bucks at an incall location at 8 mile and 94 would be on drugs (rolling eyes).
With the money you gave her for nothing. It's guys like you that make it more dangerous for the rest of us.
Why don't you just call the fucking number and see for yourself?
That's because most of the members here are too fucking cheap to spend more then 80 dollars on a night of fun.
Never will happen, all you guys are talking out your ass. You all sound like a bunch of amateur.
Jesus fucking christ. Your grammar is worse than your spelling. Maybe you cud find one of dem dare junior collages and git some educatin.
FYI, Christ when being used as a proper name should be capitalized.
Just saying maybe you mit want 2 find on of dem dare junior collages and git u sum edicatin as wel.
A2Chill, relax, wank one off, take a deep breath, calm the fuck down, talk about the pot calling the kettle black. What ever happened to you PieBoy, you use to kick ass and take names on this thread, now it's like you were neutered or something.
RockHard403
01-11-20, 23:52
Holy shit Pieboy has way too much free time on his hands.
Dude.
Chill, relax, wank one off, take a deep breath, calm the fuck down.I'd like to apologize to everyone. I should change my name to Dick Head.
I'd like to apologize to everyone. I should change my name to Dick Head.Truth is. When I was young, I got raped by a farm animal, and got pregnant.
This is kind of funny, one post you're chastising mongers for playing captain save a hoe and the next you're playing captain save a monger.I sure don't know how you get that. Just to give you shit, again just a member on here with 43 posts of nothing but bullshit over nearly a two-year period. Not one useful review. You chastise people over using the word candy or dream disclaimers but no real stuff of your own here. Wonder why?
RayLatoole
01-12-20, 05:22
I'd like to apologize to everyone. I should change my name to Dick Head.Richard Cranium has a nice ring to it.
I sure don't know how you get that. Just to give you shit, again just a member on here with 43 posts of nothing but bullshit over nearly a two-year period. Not one useful review. You chastise people over using the word candy or dream disclaimers but no real stuff of your own here. Wonder why?You should have figured out by now I'm gay.
You should have figured out by now I'm gay.Jeeez. And you talk about me getting soft. But you explained a lot. Good luck going forward.
YMMV is absolutely true regardless what the self proclaimed AMP expert (aka troll) says. It's hit or miss but it does happen. It primarily depends on the girl AND the guy. While I haven't been to these places in a while, I have had more than a clothed handshake dozens and dozens of times at places that are still around; including shirtless, FIV, DATY, grinding shirtless, reverse massage in underwear, FS was offered but very expensive or required going to a hotel. I never ask for a BJ. Unfortunately, none of the girls are around anymore and I haven't built a relationship with any of the newer ones. You all know where I spend my time now! Haha. One very young girl explained it to me very clearly one time. "So many guys think we'll just do anything with anyone for money, but most of the guys are big, fat, gross and unattractive. I dont want do that stuff with someone like that." Im Not trying to be a jerk, but if you are fat and unattractive, There isn't a chance you'll get more than a clothed handshake from a younger hot girl who wouldnt give you the time of day at a bar. But don't think that's how it is for everyone. With that said, even if you are fit and attractive then the probability is still less than 50%, maybe less than 25%. It's YMMV everywhere. Bottom line, If they are attracted to you, everything is on the table. If they are not attracted, then we just have to be happy with what we get.Please state what kind of spas you are talking about. I am strickly talking about the Chinese-Korean Spas (Alice Spa, A-Acu, Van Dyke, Famous, Shiatsu, Pro Body, Sophias, Sonia, Bella Touch). I don't care how attractive you, how much money you flash, you are NOT getting anything more than a good massage and a HJ. By the way, not one girl cares what you look like, they care what your wallet looks like and even with that, there is no such thing as YMMV at the CK spas.
Just had a world class massage, followed by a handshake, followed by DATY from the sole prop and only therapist there. I'm 90% sure more would be available. Took 6 visits to get there. She's a late 50's Chinese woman, body, age adjusted, was 7/10. Sorry, no further info at this time.Yes, at a Chinese spa, some places, you might get a little bit more. I am strictly talking about the Chinese-Korean spas.
CarmeloJoe35
01-17-20, 16:38
Please state what kind of spas you are talking about. I am strickly talking about the Chinese-Korean Spas (Alice Spa, A-Acu, Van Dyke, Famous, Shiatsu, Pro Body, Sophias, Sonia, Bella Touch). I don't care how attractive you, how much money you flash, you are NOT getting anything more than a good massage and a HJ. By the way, not one girl cares what you look like, they care what your wallet looks like and even with that, there is no such thing as YMMV at the CK spas.One or two of those are on my list. I'm just wondering if you are going to try and get even more specific and break down the genetic ratio allocation between Chinese and Korean. LOL you are a funny bloke!
Please state what kind of spas you are talking about. I am strickly talking about the Chinese-Korean Spas (Alice Spa, A-Acu, Van Dyke, Famous, Shiatsu, Pro Body, Sophias, Sonia, Bella Touch). I don't care how attractive you, how much money you flash, you are NOT getting anything more than a good massage and a HJ. By the way, not one girl cares what you look like, they care what your wallet looks like and even with that, there is no such thing as YMMV at the CK spas.I have gotten way more at two of the spas you list. Special circumstances for sure. The fuglies have to give a bit more if they want to be accepted. And mamasans / owners sometimes break the house rules. Interesting that troll knows them all personally but can't get past the HJ. They may just be telling him what he wants to hear.
I'm sure it's a good business move to accurately point out how often the police investigate then and when neighbors harass and photograph them. No reason to down play it at all.
Nice review.
I am fairly tuned in to what happens in Ferndale. She is probably referring to what happened last spring when they first moved upstairs. From what I hear, that hasn't happened in a long time. I don't know anything about Ebony. She's been mostly independent a long time. Ebony was never arrested at the shop. But it's understandable she would be scared. Also, from what I know, while she was comfortable with Tiffany, I'm fairly certain she was uncomfortable with some of the other girls.
Only in your dreams. And what's funny, is none of the spas I listed has a mamasan, LOL. So, no cred here.Excuse me. Head masseuse / owner. I'm guessing troll is one of the ones that isn't on the good looking side so can't go further than HJ. Also his affiliation with the organization, keeps him from understanding the deep dark underbelly state of this trade.
Please state what kind of spas you are talking about. I am strickly talking about the Chinese-Korean Spas (Alice Spa, A-Acu, Van Dyke, Famous, Shiatsu, Pro Body, Sophias, Sonia, Bella Touch). I don't care how attractive you, how much money you flash, you are NOT getting anything more than a good massage and a HJ. By the way, not one girl cares what you look like, they care what your wallet looks like and even with that, there is no such thing as YMMV at the CK spas.You're so weird, man. Just lighten up. There's no point in trying to explain this stuff to you. If these are YOUR limited experiences at these places, than so be it. I believe you.
CarpetMunchr69
01-19-20, 00:16
Only in your dreams. And what's funny, is none of the spas I listed has a mamasan, LOL. So, no cred here.Heejung claims he is a subject matter expert because he is friends with many spa owners. He does have alot of info that can be helpful but the fact is that not all spa owners and Heejung know what goes on behind closed doors when we succeed in persuading these ladies into having escalated fun.
You should have figured out by now I'm gay.Then why are you on here wasting space and data? I'm sure there's plenty of trannys out there that would enjoy your ass.
Then why are you on here wasting space and data? I'm sure there's plenty of trannys out there that would enjoy your ass.I prefer pile driving your baby brother.
Please state what kind of spas you are talking about. I am strickly talking about the Chinese-Korean Spas (Alice Spa, A-Acu, Van Dyke, Famous, Shiatsu, Pro Body, Sophias, Sonia, Bella Touch). I don't care how attractive you, how much money you flash, you are NOT getting anything more than a good massage and a HJ. By the way, not one girl cares what you look like, they care what your wallet looks like and even with that, there is no such thing as YMMV at the CK spas.Getting lots of PMs from heejung. Says he is an employee of all the owners. I guess that makes him a Troll-advertiser. Can't imaging what he does for them other than get the condoms out of the toilet. I wonder if he bobs for them like apples. Still refuses to believe a girl goes rogue for extra cash once in a while.
Getting lots of PMs from heejung. Says he is an employee of all the owners. I guess that makes him a Troll-advertiser. Can't imaging what he does for them other than get the condoms out of the toilet. I wonder if he bobs for them like apples. Still refuses to believe a girl goes rogue for extra cash once in a while.I recall reading a couple of years ago he was a bookkeeper.
I recall reading a couple of years ago he was a bookkeeper.Then heejunk should know better than anyone that not everybody plays by the rules. I wonder if all his girls declare their tips. I hope they follow Generally Accepted AMP Principles.
Then heejunk should know better than anyone that not everybody plays by the rules. I wonder if all his girls declare their tips. I hope they follow Generally Accepted AMP Principles.Won't be hearing from heejunk for a while. Its tax season and the IRS may be looking hard into his past filings.
WinterKnight
01-25-20, 08:00
Thanks. Are there any girls WITHOUT tattoos? Anyone can tell me WHY the proliferation of tattoos out there? I just got back from Playa del Carmen in Mexico, and practically EVERY girl, local and tourist, is sporting multi tattoos, often garish, full arms, on their legs, everywhere. No thank you!I moved this from the SW thread.
Wayne, some answers to your questions follow:
"Are there any girls without tattoos?
Of course there are many girls without tattoos, even SP's. You just need to continue searching, if seeing tattoos on a woman is a dealbreaker for you.
"WHY the proliferation of tattoos out there?
There is not enough space here to fully answer this question. Some answers are: Ever-changing societal norms on acceptable, even desirable body adornment. Style. A yearning to set oneself apart and be seen as unique. Ages ago, a tattoo might announce the wearer's allegiance to his tribe; now, it might indicate the same to a peer group, which might as well be the modern version of a tribe. They can be a record of important events in the life of the bearer.
Or a combination of all the above. Regardless, most tattoos mean something important to the person who wears them. So don't make the mistake of denigrating or judging them for their choice.
Those of you who know Carmen Capri saw that she has many lavish tattoos; I can attest that she is very proud of hers. I was not a fan until I met her, and have had many opportunities to look at her tattoos, ask her about them, trace them with my fingers, take photos of her. I have to admit that I find her far more interesting because of those tattoos and her reasons for getting them.
Stop for a minute and ask yourself why you object to tattoos on women. And then consider relaxing your attitude towards them; you may find you have overlooked some gems. Like you, I didn't like the look at all, until the right woman changed my mind.
I'm sure there are plenty of members here who sport ink and have opinions and stories to share on their tattoos or those of someone they know.
WinterKnight
01-26-20, 07:58
Then heejunk should know better than anyone that not everybody plays by the rules. I wonder if all his girls declare their tips. I hope they follow Generally Accepted AMP Principles.So THAT'S what GAAP stands for! LMFAO.
I had a dream about Bonita yesterday.
Dreamt it was the first time I saw her and we both parted ways very happy.
Wish that dream never ended.I'm reality, it actually happened. Pretending it was just a dream is absurd. Grow up.
ParadiseLost50
02-02-20, 08:58
I'm reality, it actually happened. Pretending it was just a dream is absurd. Grow up.Your reality is you're a tiny man with a tiny dick.
That's why you can't handle little things.
I bet you are one of those guys that cry on FB like a little *****.
Obietrice1981
02-02-20, 09:47
I'm reality, it actually happened. Pretending it was just a dream is absurd. Grow up.It's the lingo to have a "dream" man. You obviously have not read other posts and read other dreams narrated. So there's no point to sag grow up. If you don't like someone's dream just move on.
SpanxMcgee
02-02-20, 12:44
I'm reality, it actually happened. Pretending it was just a dream is absurd. Grow up.Most of these "dreams" are actually nightmares LOL.
CommonSteve666
02-02-20, 17:21
Your reality is you're a tiny man with a tiny dick.
That's why you can't handle little things.
I bet you are one of those guys that cry on FB like a little *****.I see people use the dream lingo in their summary. Since you use it, why? I'm curious as to who you think you are fooling or what you think you're saving yourself from? You can say "I banged some hog for 50 dollars. ".
MarkoFromTrpja
02-03-20, 02:28
I'm reality, it actually happened. Pretending it was just a dream is absurd. Grow up.I just want to know if does BBBJ?
I had a dream she did it for me so I'm hoping it will come true.
Madscientist
02-21-20, 14:36
It's the lingo to have a "dream" man. You obviously have not read other posts and read other dreams narrated. So there's no point to sag grow up. If you don't like someone's dream just move on.The dream lingo was idiotic when it was started and it is still idiotic to do it now.
WinterKnight
03-30-20, 09:04
I know this virus going around changes things a bit, but this is just my opinion. As an ex dope fiend I can say they never really get sick because they're not exactly a good host. So again in my opinion the likelihood you would get sick from one of these girls I think is very low. Take that for what it is.The overwhelming majority of SW's are addicts, and the depressed immune systems of addicts make them far more susceptible to contagious diseases.
TullyBlanchard
03-30-20, 20:25
The dream lingo was idiotic when it was started and it is still idiotic to do it now.Agreed. I also laugh at the hookers who still use "roses" in their ads.
The overwhelming majority of SW's are addicts, and the depressed immune systems of addicts make them far more susceptible to contagious diseases.Totally agree with you.
The overwhelming majority of SW's are addicts, and the depressed immune systems of addicts make them far more susceptible to contagious diseases.Spot-on.
They are among the "at-risk" population that we read and hear so much about in the news. Poverty, lower education, and lack of access to food and health care is part of the reason that Detroit is such a hot spot. These workers fit right into this category.
TheTrackStar
04-11-20, 18:31
Yes $50. No Typo. If your paying these sluts any thing more than 40-60 in these times right now Your A Stupid. There nothing but junkies who have a expensive habit & a room to pay for so they will take what they can get. I offer them one price over phone than low ball the fuck out of them when I get there.DownRiverRat, if you're going to call someone stupid for over paying you might want to make sure your grammar, punctuation, and spelling are correct.
DownRiverRat
04-11-20, 19:32
Ahhhh is someone mad cause I fucked some ***** there in love with for the low? Like I said your A Dumb Fuck if your paying these ****** anything over 60 for everything.
TheTrackStar
04-11-20, 22:45
Ahhhh is someone mad cause I fucked some ***** there in love with for the low? Like I said your A Dumb Fuck if your paying these ****** anything over 60 for everything.I agree with you on the rates, these BackPage type escorts are nothing but SW with internet access. Give me a girl with ten toes down any day. Less money, less rules, and more willing to please.
P.S. It's you're not your.
Your: Belonging to or associated with the person or people that the speaker is addressing.
You're: You are.
Concupiscent69
04-11-20, 23:20
I agree with you on the rates, these BackPage type escorts are nothing but SW with internet access. Give me a girl with ten toes down any day. Less money, less rules, and more willing to please.
P.S. It's you're not your.
Your: Belonging to or associated with the person or people that the speaker is addressing.
You're: You are.You"re also overlooking "there" when he wants to say "they're" as in this sentence "There nothing but junkies. " He skipped the day they taught about possessives and contractions.
RayLatoole
04-12-20, 13:07
Ahhhh is someone mad cause I fucked some ***** THERE in love with for the low? Like I said your A Dumb Fuck if your paying these ****** anything over 60 for everything.In addition to the previous grammatical and spelling errors. It's they're or they are rather than there!
WinterKnight
04-12-20, 15:02
Ahhhh is someone mad cause I fucked some ***** there in love with for the low? Like I said your A Dumb Fuck if your paying these ****** anything over 60 for everything.I'm just mad because he fucked a * I am in love with, plus I paid her over $60 for the privilege. Apparently my good grammar did not merit the playa discount.
LMFAO.
Guys, please don't take it seriously when someone shoots his mouth off in this forum. Instead, focus on getting the best * you can get for the price.
Timberwolf
04-12-20, 16:33
I agree with you on the rates, these BackPage type escorts are nothing but SW with internet access. Give me a girl with ten toes down any day. Less money, less rules, and more willing to please.
P.S. It's you're not your.
Your: Belonging to or associated with the person or people that the speaker is addressing.
You're: You are.
You"re also overlooking "there" when he wants to say "they're" as in this sentence "There nothing but junkies. " He skipped the day they taught about possessives and contractions.
In addition to the previous grammatical and spelling errors. It's they're or they are rather than there!Suggests you have nothing of substance for the discussion. No grammar debate is complete without a through discussion of Oxford Commas.
DownRiverRat
04-12-20, 18:45
I think A few of you Guys need to go get some Pussy. This is A site to talk about ****** not A grammar class. If I guys are to scared to right not, paypal Me the $ & I'll go do it for your soft asses.
I knew Jackie long before you even crossed paths with her. She was fun to be around, until she got worse and wore down from her addiction and her life turned to real s* from living with you, but she was still hooking up with me, but before then, she was always like a sex addict, especially when she shot it in her neck and she wanted to f* even more, never wanted to stop until it wore off. I remember doing everything possible with her hours in a notel in melvindale, before I dropped her back off at your house before you got home. Those were the times. I think it makes it even better when these white knighters taking these providers and trying to make them their girlfriends / live in girls and I'm banging them at the same timeDude you need to get a life.
Jackie never lived with me you. Which proves you didn't know her.
Dude you need to get a life.
Jackie never lived with me you. Which proves you didn't know her.Yeah whatever you say! I wish I still remembered your street name and Jackie may have been the first, but wasn't the only girls, like Lena and Tricia I believe, and there was a couple more I forgot about, that told me about you trying to get them to come live with you, to be their white knight. Here we are having fun with these providers and you're trying to take them in and off the street from us for your own live in hoe. Maybe you're the one that needs to get a life and stop thinking you can make a housewife out of one of these providers.
TheTrackStar
04-25-20, 15:52
Yeah whatever you say! I wish I still remembered your street name and Jackie may have been the first, but wasn't the only girls, like Lena and Tricia I believe, and there was a couple more I forgot about, that told me about you trying to get them to come live with you, to be their white knight. Here we are having fun with these providers and you're trying to take them in and off the street from us for your own live in hoe. Maybe you're the one that needs to get a life and stop thinking you can make a housewife out of one of these providers.Monger998, is Poppabd the guy that was living in the notels in the LP area with street girls or is that another guy?
Concupiscent69
04-25-20, 17:54
Here we are having fun with these providers and you're trying to take them in and off the street from us for your own live in hoe. Seriously? Whether he was or not, what business is it of yours, mine or anyone else? If a gal decided she wanted to be Julia Roberts and fall for a customer, why is it anyone's business? There are many more in this game to worry about one or a few. Your statement sounded like a child telling momma your big brother is taking away some toys from you and your friends to play with.
Maybe you're the one that needs to get a life and stop thinking you can make a housewife out of one of these providers.You ever see Pretty Woman? Maybe a dream can come true for some.
TullyBlanchard
04-25-20, 18:45
I think A few of you Guys need to go get some Pussy. This is A site to talk about ****** not A grammar class. If I guys are to scared to right not, paypal Me the $ & I'll go do it for your soft asses.My head exploded from reading that garbled nonsense.
Yeah whatever you say! I wish I still remembered your street name and Jackie may have been the first, but wasn't the only girls, like Lena and Tricia I believe, and there was a couple more I forgot about, that told me about you trying to get them to come live with you, to be their white knight. Here we are having fun with these providers and you're trying to take them in and off the street from us for your own live in hoe. Maybe you're the one that needs to get a life and stop thinking you can make a housewife out of one of these providers."Here we are having fun with these providers and you're trying to take them in and off the street from us for your own live in hoe. " Not taking a side here, BUT. These women are people. Not meat. Think about treating them with some respect. How many women have you known that said. When I grow up, I want to be a hooker. I'm not saying you need to save them, but wow. They are human.
Monger998, is Poppabd the guy that was living in the notels in the LP area with street girls or is that another guy?No, Not the same guy. The guy that was talked about before was Gerald / Jerry, and the notel was in Southgate not LP. He wasn't a captain save a hoe like Poppabd, he was just pipping out the girls, placing online ads and trying to get his dick sucked. The last one that was he was with was Virginia that died last year, and Anya that also died last year.
"Here we are having fun with these providers and you're trying to take them in and off the street from us for your own live in hoe. " Not taking a side here, BUT. These women are people. Not meat. Think about treating them with some respect. How many women have you known that said. When I grow up, I want to be a hooker. I'm not saying you need to save them, but wow. They are human.I totally agree with you that these women are not just meat. I was just over exaggerating the effect that he is doing. I've always lend a hand to help the ones out that treated me right. I never hesitated to stop and pick up some food on the way to drop them off, Make sure they have time to get warm on a cold winter day or whatever else they needed that I could help them out with. I spend hours with these girls sometimes just talking, and on social media with most of them, if they have it, is how I know so much. Just having some fun with that Captain save a hoe, Pbd and moving down the list of girls as they die, trying to get the next one to move in with him.
Seriously? Whether he was or not, what business is it of yours, mine or anyone else? If a gal decided she wanted to be Julia Roberts and fall for a customer, why is it anyone's business? There are many more in this game to worry about one or a few. Your statement sounded like a child telling momma your big brother is taking away some toys from you and your friends to play with.
You ever see Pretty Woman? Maybe a dream can come true for some.I forgot to tag your post with allmonger and the response I left with him. I'm just getting on Poppabd because when Jackie died, he was on here crying about it and other people dogged him out for it, and I stood up for him I guess you could say because I knew Jackie and she was a sweet woman, just messed up life and left kids behind, but then other providers started telling me about him trying to get them to move in with them. I don't know about pretty women and fairy tales. That's just not the real life with these women unfortunately!
Concupiscent69
04-26-20, 22:52
I forgot to tag your post with allmonger and the response I left with him. I'm just getting on Poppabd because when Jackie died, he was on here crying about it and other people dogged him out for it, and I stood up for him I guess you could say because I knew Jackie and she was a sweet woman, just messed up life and left kids behind, but then other providers started telling me about him trying to get them to move in with them. I'll reiterate once again. If that was his intent. Who cares? It's nice you stood up for him, but if this is only a beef between you two, it shouldn't be aired in public.
Several providers will die due to their habit. Hell, one gal who was a friend of mine, died in Sept of 2018 from OD. Some of you may have even seen her. I know of a few others who have died and I'm beginning to believe a regular I saw in Romulus has died since I last spoke with her on Jan 8, which was the last day I found her ad in STG. It's a part of life which can't be altered unless they truly want help.
I don't know about pretty women and fairy tales. That's just not the real life with these women unfortunately!I would agree, but there are exceptions to every rule. I know of one gal who got clean and changed her life. It's a rarity, for the most part, but not an impossibility. If some guy wants to see 100's of providers in hopes of making her his Pretty Woman, who are we to say otherwise. It has no impact on me, why should it anyone else?
I'll reiterate once again. If that was his intent. Who cares? It's nice you stood up for him, but if this is only a beef between you two, it shouldn't be aired in public.
Several providers will die due to their habit. Hell, one gal who was a friend of mine, died in Sept of 2018 from OD. Some of you may have even seen her. I know of a few others who have died and I'm beginning to believe a regular I saw in Romulus has died since I last spoke with her on Jan 8, which was the last day I found her ad in STG. It's a part of life which can't be altered unless they truly want help.
I would agree, but there are exceptions to every rule. I know of one gal who got clean and changed her life. It's a rarity, for the most part, but not an impossibility. If some guy wants to see 100's of providers in hopes of making her his Pretty Woman, who are we to say otherwise. It has no impact on me, why should it anyone else?I know probably at least five providers that got clean from the ave, but they got clean because it wasn't with one of their John's playing Captain save a hoe. If I want to post something about Poppabd or those that want to play a white knight, who cares, except for maybe for you that keeps responding to my posts, I guess maybe there's some white knight in you for defending it? I know at least one provider that you see and that she has to constantly take her ads down because of some jealous monger, Not saying that it's you because I can't confirm that, that she is just continuing to use that guy, to get money from and thinking he's a white knight to her. I seen a provider play four guys at the same time to get them to send her money, and three of them did. Does it matter to anybody what they or you might do!? Absolutely not. Does it put a message out there not to be naive and let these women use them with their stories and lies. I hope so.
Concupiscent69
04-29-20, 08:01
I know probably at least five providers that got clean from the ave, but they got clean because it wasn't with one of their John's playing Captain save a hoe. If I want to post something about Poppabd or those that want to play a white knight, who cares, except for maybe for you that keeps responding to my posts, I guess maybe there's some white knight in you for defending it? I know at least one provider that you see and that she has to constantly take her ads down because of some jealous monger, Not saying that it's you because I can't confirm that, that she is just continuing to use that guy, to get money from and thinking he's a white knight to her. I seen a provider play four guys at the same time to get them to send her money, and three of them did. Does it matter to anybody what they or you might do!? Absolutely not. Does it put a message out there not to be naive and let these women use them with their stories and lies. I hope so.Your perception is what you want it to be regardless of it's inaccuracy. Those who learn from others mistakes are enlightened. Those who are used by another may learn the hard way and others may not learn at all. Return again to the point where it doesn't concern me. Why does it concern anyone else?
I could spare 20, but I won't. No Service No Pay. If your not up to par & not willing to Negotiate Fuck Off Dirty ***. I wish A Pimp / BF would try some shit I got 10 Rounds Of. 40 Cal for his Ass & Hers.Sounds like a lost Michigan militia cockwomble.
WinterKnight
05-22-20, 08:22
Sounds like a lost Michigan militia cockwomble.Thank you for increasing my vocabulary! I consulted the dictionary for this one. Now I'm looking for an opportunity to use it in conversation, LOL.
DownRiverRat
05-22-20, 13:40
Do what ya want none of my Business, but don't cry when ya wind up like that sucker up in Warren robbed shot or dead. I don't go no where without my heater let alone to me some strange drug addict ***** in a place unfamiliar to me. No Bad Ass here, but definitely not scared to pull the trigger on some dirtball pimp & *****.
Do what ya want none of my Business, but don't cry when ya wind up like that sucker up in Warren robbed shot or dead. I don't go no where without my heater let alone to me some strange drug addict ***** in a place unfamiliar to me. No Bad Ass here, but definitely not scared to pull the trigger on some dirtball pimp & *****.Wow, this dude is the most fun to read since TheMadHumper back in the day.
Can't wait to see what else I'll be reading about this guy, eventually.
DownRiverRat
05-23-20, 15:42
I Bet you won't be hearing about me being a victim & you won't be reading my posts in the ripoff section. Been in this game a while now, never been robbed or ripped off. You a sucker if you don't carry. Most these Broads are some of the biggest scum you will find & most have some type of handler. Alot of them live in places you should be packing just going being in area. Alot of my fellow johns are some real cooks also that might be hanging around. Shit, look at that cat who was playing GTA with these ******.
Do what ya want none of my Business, but don't cry when ya wind up like that sucker up in Warren robbed shot or dead. I don't go no where without my heater let alone to me some strange drug addict ***** in a place unfamiliar to me. No Bad Ass here, but definitely not scared to pull the trigger on some dirtball pimp & *****.You're better off having it and not needing it than not having it and needing it. A lot of these hoes are just looking for their next fix. They could owe their pharmacist or handler money.
Never been robbed per say. Had an incident where a BSW on Harper got in gave her 20 she wanted more. She Wouldn't do anything. In this case it wasn't worth pulling it out. Logic has to set in. If you struggle with the hoe and you cap her ass and toss out. Somebody could be walking buy or driving bye. For $20 it isn't worth the gamble. That's not to say if she would of pulled a knife out it would of been a different story.
The guy who trained me said have a few dollars in a pocket and hide the rest somewhere else. If you get robbed hane them a few bucks. It's cheaper than handing $10,000 to your lawyer to keep you out of jail.
DownRiverRat
05-24-20, 13:19
My Fellow Johns, I would like to know who why'all think is the nastiest freak in the Downriver / Airport or Inkster Area? 1 who will do just about anything.
The madhumper was great. Loved reading his reports. There is another monger with a similar posting style in the Columbus Ohio SW thread. Humptydumpty. Check him out....Very entertaining.
Wow, this dude is the most fun to read since TheMadHumper back in the day.
Can't wait to see what else I'll be reading about this guy, eventually.
My Fellow Johns, I would like to know who why'all think is the nastiest freak in the Downriver / Airport or Inkster Area? 1 who will do just about anything.I give up. Who is it?
SmoothDriver
05-25-20, 10:35
I have had good luck with Eros for years but NEVER give money up front through a ap. I contacted Bailey a new lady on Eros, she sent me some BS message that her assistant was not working and I had to pay up front with a ap. Because I was a new client, fk that. Don't ever give money through a ap. Many have been ripped off this way. Stay save and just don't think of yourself durning these tough times.
New Guy Not
05-27-20, 18:17
It's been 4 yrs since I've been out of the hobby. Now I've got that itch. But for fucks sake Detroit is lame as hell right now. All these girls want cashapp money sent to them, is this the new norm? Imo to risky using electronic transactions. There are like 2 providers I'd hit up but fuck me LOL 400 hr and up is where I seem to be. Any tips on making the adjustment? Thanks in advance.
It's been 4 yrs since I've been out of the hobby. Now I've got that itch. But for fucks sake Detroit is lame as hell right now. All these girls want cashapp money sent to them, is this the new norm? Imo to risky using electronic transactions. There are like 2 providers I'd hit up but fuck me LOL 400 hr and up is where I seem to be. Any tips on making the adjustment? Thanks in advance.Never ever send money first, 99% of the time you will be ripped off. Never pay an escort upfront. Maaaybe a small booking fee for a higher end touring pro.
Go fire up your computer and grab the Vaseline.
These women are laughing all the way to the bank with money they rip off customers.
Now content providers are a different story go shopping on OnlyFans or check out the cam girls on Chaterbate.
Had a short dream with her today.
Location is good, she's friendly enough, but overall nothing to write home about. Service is pretty boring so I'd only recommend a short time.Just curious. . why do mongers on this board use that term? Honestly, it's the stupidest thing I have seen on here. Are we all trying to be drama queens now?
SpitzerWeiner2
06-05-20, 21:58
Just curious. . why do mongers on this board use that term? Honestly, it's the stupidest thing I have seen on here. Are we all trying to be drama queens now?Of course, they use the term "dream" to totally throw the reader off the trail. Let's say, for example, that a law enforcement officer or investigator was to make it onto this site. Now imagine him reading the colorful prose of the contributors. If somebody said, "today I saw Miss Provider and she gave me an incredible BBBJ," the officer would know that the writer had engaged in unethical and potentially illegal behavior, whereas if the writer opines instead, "Today I had a dream about Miss Provider in which she gave me an incredible BBBJ," the officer will immediately conclude, "Oh, this guy didn't see anybody. He just had a vivid dream about a lady of the night and wanted to share it with the public. " It's the most brilliant way not to incriminate oneself, since no detective, however sharp, could ever penetrate that impregnable psychological Maginot Line.
Went to the place off Wayne road next to the station. Not that station but the other station. Standard massage and typical services provided. Enjoy gents.If a girl isn't wearing a mask, that should be your first sign to walk out and find another parlour. The virus isn't gone yet in Michigan. Every spa I have seen since opening had a sign in the window stating you must wear a mask. Protect yourself, don't let a girl massage you without a mask on. You are playing Russian roulette.
If a girl isn't wearing a mask, that should be your first sign to walk out and find another parlour. The virus isn't gone yet in Michigan. Every spa I have seen since opening had a sign in the window stating you must wear a mask. Protect yourself, don't let a girl massage you without a mask on. You are playing Russian roulette.Except that your odds of getting the virus and dying are far less than the 1 in 6 chance associated with Russian roulette.
If a girl isn't wearing a mask, that should be your first sign to walk out and find another parlour. The virus isn't gone yet in Michigan. Every spa I have seen since opening had a sign in the window stating you must wear a mask. Protect yourself, don't let a girl massage you without a mask on. You are playing Russian roulette.The CDC released new info weeks ago. The overall survival rate for covid (including old people with co morbidities) is 99.74% so no, it's fucking nothing like Russian Roulette and for a lot of these young guns here their chances of dying in a car wreck in the way to or from the MP are greater than dying of a confirmed case of covid. This has been out since May 20 https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/hcp/planning-scenarios.html.
Fuck you dbags just won't let this hysteria go.
The CDC released new info weeks ago. The overall survival rate for covid (including old people with co morbidities) is 99.74% so no, it's fucking nothing like Russian Roulette and for a lot of these young guns here their chances of dying in a car wreck in the way to or from the MP are greater than dying of a confirmed case of covid. This has been out since May 20 https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/hcp/planning-scenarios.html.
Fuck you dbags just won't let this hysteria go.If you actually get the virus then Its like Russian roulette if you have a gun with 384 chambers.
SmoothDriver
06-20-20, 22:10
The CDC released new info weeks ago. The overall survival rate for covid (including old people with co morbidities) is 99.74% so no, it's fucking nothing like Russian Roulette and for a lot of these young guns here their chances of dying in a car wreck in the way to or from the MP are greater than dying of a confirmed case of covid. This has been out since May 20 https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/hcp/planning-scenarios.html.
Fuck you dbags just won't let this hysteria go.Ty Doctor.
Ty Doctor.It's a report, from the CDC, you know from Doctors. Who say that their most accurate estimate of symptomatic IFR (Infection Fatality Rate) is .004 which means 4 in a thousand which is .4% (you know that math stuff) and that the most accurate percent of asymptomatic cases compared to symptomatic one is 35% which lowers the .004 .0026 which means that .26% of people with covid die. If .26% die that means 99.74% survive because if you don't die you survive. I don't have a medical degree but I can fucking read English and understand a table. Maybe you might want to get somebody to help you with the big words so you can too.
A2.
CommonSteve666
06-21-20, 12:02
The CDC released new info weeks ago. The overall survival rate for covid (including old people with co morbidities) is 99.74% so no, it's fucking nothing like Russian Roulette and for a lot of these young guns here their chances of dying in a car wreck in the way to or from the MP are greater than dying of a confirmed case of covid. This has been out since May 20 https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/hcp/planning-scenarios.html.
Fuck you dbags just won't let this hysteria go.Those who fuel the hysteria have been watching too much of the DNC nightly news with Lester Holt. If you hear them say Armageddon and apocalypse enough, you start to believe it.
Concupiscent69
06-21-20, 16:22
The CDC released new info weeks ago. The overall survival rate for covid (including old people with co morbidities) is 99.74% so no, it's fucking nothing like Russian Roulette and for a lot of these young guns here their chances of dying in a car wreck in the way to or from the MP are greater than dying of a confirmed case of covid. This has been out since May 20 https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/hcp/planning-scenarios.html.
Fuck you dbags just won't let this hysteria go.Stay tuned. You may be receiving a PM from the member you replied calling you a liar, you're wrong and any other attempts to defraud your comments.
Those who fuel the hysteria have been watching too much of the DNC nightly news with Lester Holt. If you hear them say Armageddon and apocalypse enough, you start to believe it.YOUR LOGIC is the same reason I never wear a seat belt odds favor me never dieing in a car crash if I don't wear it so why wear it?
Stay tuned. You may be receiving a PM from the member you replied calling you a liar, you're wrong and any other attempts to defraud your comments.English is my native language and I have no idea what you're saying. If you're saying I'm wrong, I didn't say anything, I put up a report by the CDC, the doctors at the CDC said it, I didn't. I just repeated what it said.
99.74% overall survival rate, that's not my number, that's the CDC's number. I guess if you have the credentials and access to the data you could write to them and show them the error of their ways and when they release a corrected report we can go from there but as of today it's a 99.74% overall survival rate.
A2.
Those who fuel the hysteria have been watching too much of the DNC nightly news with Lester Holt. If you hear them say Armageddon and apocalypse enough, you start to believe it.If every week was Shark Week and it showed on all channels 24/7 people in Omaha would be afraid to take a bath.
They are making a big deal in Texas "RECORD NUMBER OF HOSPITALIZATIONS" (3,000 statewide) what they don't say is that there are 18,000 beds reserved for Covid and over 80,000 total staffed beds in the fucking state, but it's a RECORD NUMBER OF HOSPITALIZATIONS!
Just because something is the most doesn't mean it's a lot.
Numbers posted here are very. Unique.
My role in a large multi-state hospital system has me looking at metrics daily, which I've been doing since early March. We're in communication with the CDC, FEMA, and other agencies and other hospital systems as well.
IF you get Covid, there's a 15% chance of hospitalization.
Once you are in, there's a 20% chance of getting into an ICU and a 5. 7% chance of death.
People describe this virus as like the flu; a better description is like polio. You could be fine, but you could have a long recovery, and in many cases, especially if you wind up in a hospital, "recovery" statistics means long term damage.
Remember, this virus has no effective treatment (although remdisivir and also some steroids are showing some promise). Get it and you're playing Russian Roulette.
The CDC model of infection rate for a specific area is a good measure for modeling congruent with reopening via the CDC Playbook. Coming out of Phase 2 or Phase 3 too early results in increased infections (hello Florida and Texas).
Numbers posted here are very. Unique.
My role in a large multi-state hospital system has me looking at metrics daily, which I've been doing since early March. We're in communication with the CDC, FEMA, and other agencies and other hospital systems as well.
IF you get Covid, there's a 15% chance of hospitalization.
Once you are in, there's a 20% chance of getting into an ICU and a 5. 7% chance of death.
People describe this virus as like the flu; a better description is like polio. You could be fine, but you could have a long recovery, and in many cases, especially if you wind up in a hospital, "recovery" statistics means long term damage.
Remember, this virus has no effective treatment (although remdisivir and also some steroids are showing some promise). Get it and you're playing Russian Roulette.
The CDC model of infection rate for a specific area is a good measure for modeling congruent with reopening via the CDC Playbook. Coming out of Phase 2 or Phase 3 too early results in increased infections (hello Florida and Texas).I have a sinking feeling this is the calm before the storm. I hope I'm wrong.
SmoothDriver
06-22-20, 12:54
Numbers posted here are very. Unique.
My role in a large multi-state hospital system has me looking at metrics daily, which I've been doing since early March. We're in communication with the CDC, FEMA, and other agencies and other hospital systems as well.
IF you get Covid, there's a 15% chance of hospitalization.
Once you are in, there's a 20% chance of getting into an ICU and a 5. 7% chance of death.
People describe this virus as like the flu; a better description is like polio. You could be fine, but you could have a long recovery, and in many cases, especially if you wind up in a hospital, "recovery" statistics means long term damage.
Remember, this virus has no effective treatment (although remdisivir and also some steroids are showing some promise). Get it and you're playing Russian Roulette.
The CDC model of infection rate for a specific area is a good measure for modeling congruent with reopening via the CDC Playbook. Coming out of Phase 2 or Phase 3 too early results in increased infections (hello Florida and Texas).Ty for your real info. It's nice to hear from someone who works in the medical field that's a expert not some pissed off pushy crybaby know it all person who must have his why right or wrong. Stay save everyone and listen to experts not opioned crybabies that are right no matter what a expert says.
WinterKnight
06-22-20, 17:19
Numbers posted here are very. Unique.
My role in a large multi-state hospital system has me looking at metrics daily, which I've been doing since early March. We're in communication with the CDC, FEMA, and other agencies and other hospital systems as well.
IF you get Covid, there's a 15% chance of hospitalization.
Once you are in, there's a 20% chance of getting into an ICU and a 5. 7% chance of death.
People describe this virus as like the flu; a better description is like polio. You could be fine, but you could have a long recovery, and in many cases, especially if you wind up in a hospital, "recovery" statistics means long term damage.
Remember, this virus has no effective treatment (although remdisivir and also some steroids are showing some promise). Get it and you're playing Russian Roulette.
The CDC model of infection rate for a specific area is a good measure for modeling congruent with reopening via the CDC Playbook. Coming out of Phase 2 or Phase 3 too early results in increased infections (hello Florida and Texas).What the skeptics overlook is that the danger of infection is not limited to oneself; since the symptoms do not present for two weeks (or never), you risk infecting everyone you contact until such time as you have tested positive and quarantined. By that time, it may be too late to help whatever friend or family members you have exposed to the virus. Sure, maybe you recover with "only" 50% diminution of lung capacity, but maybe your spouse or your parents don't survive at all.
Ty for your real info. It's nice to hear from someone who works in the medical field that's a expert not some pissed off pushy crybaby know it all person who must have his why right or wrong. Stay save everyone and listen to experts not opioned crybabies that are right no matter what a expert says.Repped. 👍127995;128077;127995;.
Numbers posted here are very. Unique.
My role in a large multi-state hospital system has me looking at metrics daily, which I've been doing since early March. We're in communication with the CDC, FEMA, and other agencies and other hospital systems as well.
IF you get Covid, there's a 15% chance of hospitalization.
Once you are in, there's a 20% chance of getting into an ICU and a 5. 7% chance of death.
People describe this virus as like the flu; a better description is like polio. You could be fine, but you could have a long recovery, and in many cases, especially if you wind up in a hospital, "recovery" statistics means long term damage.
Remember, this virus has no effective treatment (although remdisivir and also some steroids are showing some promise). Get it and you're playing Russian Roulette.
The CDC model of infection rate for a specific area is a good measure for modeling congruent with reopening via the CDC Playbook. Coming out of Phase 2 or Phase 3 too early results in increased infections (hello Florida and Texas).So you agree with admin2. The ofds of death are not close to the 1 in 6 of Russian roulette.
Softailrider
06-22-20, 22:42
[QUOTE=Admin2;4842188]English is my native language and I have no idea what you're saying. If you're saying I'm wrong, I didn't say anything, I put up a report by the CDC, the doctors at the CDC said it, I didn't. I just repeated what it said.
99.74% overall survival rate, that's not my number, that's the CDC's number. I guess if you have the credentials and access to the data you could write to them and show them the error of their ways and when they release a corrected report we can go from there but as of today it's a 99.74% overall
Feeling lonely and have a huge smoking fetish that I'd like to have fulfilled.
Any providers in the area that anyone can recommend that know how to put the sexy back into smoking?
CreepInDetroit
07-05-20, 13:17
Stay safe out there guys.
13 staff and patrons tied to Playhouse. Go get tested.
https://themetrodetroitnews.com/officials-confirm-13-covid-19-cases-linked-to-romulus-bar-restaurant/
BigBootyFan
07-05-20, 14:25
She dances at BTs Dearborn under the name Jules. She started in 2018 and she is now 20 years old. She has recently gained a few pounds.
MM.Hey do you know what days / times that she dances on? BT's looks high class, how much is entry fee and dances / VIP if you know? Is there a dress code? I live in the flint area so I'm not familiar with that club.
Pm welcomed! Thanks.
Stay safe out there guys.
13 staff and patrons tied to Playhouse. Go get tested.
https://themetrodetroitnews.com/officials-confirm-13-covid-19-cases-linked-to-romulus-bar-restaurant/When I saw this earlier today, I didn't even know that Playhouse was still open.
As much as I wanted to hit the strip clubs when they re-opened, I hesitated. It's one thing to contract it, it's another to tell your friends and family where one contracted it.
SmoothDriver
07-05-20, 21:41
Stay safe out there guys.
13 staff and patrons tied to Playhouse. Go get tested.
https://themetrodetroitnews.com/officials-confirm-13-covid-19-cases-linked-to-romulus-bar-restaurant/Few weeks back a few members were worried about the virus and a few jackholes said we were basically losers for worring about our lives being safe, now we have a second huge wave because of stuck up jackholes who could care less about people and it's all about them money. Suck it whoever doesn't wear a mask that 100% helps stop the spread of this virus. Paranoid? Fk that just listening to Doctors not dkheads who put people down for being concerned.
stay safe out there guys.
13 staff and patrons tied to playhouse. Go get tested.
https://themetrodetroitnews.com/officials-confirm-13-covid-19-cases-linked-to-romulus-bar-restaurant/before covid i went at least 3 times per week. However you have to be nuts or have a serious addiction to go to any strip club now!
SmoothDriver
07-05-20, 21:55
If every week was Shark Week and it showed on all channels 24/7 people in Omaha would be afraid to take a bath.
They are making a big deal in Texas "RECORD NUMBER OF HOSPITALIZATIONS" (3,000 statewide) what they don't say is that there are 18,000 beds reserved for Covid and over 80,000 total staffed beds in the fucking state, but it's a RECORD NUMBER OF HOSPITALIZATIONS!
Just because something is the most doesn't mean it's a lot.Trumps keeps taking this virus lighly because it hurts the bottom line for the rich. If a million dies 95% will be middleclass so it's easy to act like it no big deal like trumps did then hide in your bunker.
Few weeks back a few members were worried about the virus and a few jackholes said we were basically losers for worring about our lives being safe, now we have a second huge wave because of stuck up jackholes who could care less about people and it's all about them money. Suck it whoever doesn't wear a mask that 100% helps stop the spread of this virus. Paranoid? Fk that just listening to Doctors not dkheads who put people down for being concerned."There's no reason to be walking around with a mask. When you're in the middle of an outbreak, wearing a mask might make people feel a little bit better and it might even block a droplet, but it's not providing the perfect protection that people think that it is. And, often, there are unintended consequences — people keep fiddling with the mask and they keep touching their face. " - Dr Anthony Fauci.
Reported cases are going up and yet day after day and week after week deaths keep going down but somehow this has nothing to do with increased testing. Maybe those people keep putting you down for being "concerned" because you keep calling them dickheads for asking questions about the glaring inconsistencies regarding the data with this "deadly" pandemic? It's ok for you to ignore doctors that are asking the same questions but we are just supposed to listen to the doctors that keep changing their minds?
It's all about the money? Thirty million fucking people lost their fucking jobs, for every 1% increase in unemployment 38,000 people die, there has been a 14% increase in unemployment so that's a half a million people but they don't mean shit because they aren't covid and it's only about money?
So far 400,000,000 people worldwide have been forced into extreme poverty because idiots like you can't take the time to find out that according to the CDC covid has a 99.74% overall survival rate (which explains why the daily deaths have been in decline) and somewhere around 20,000,000 of them are going to starve over the next year or two and the people who want to go to work are the jackholes?
You should be fucking ashamed for being such a sheeple. I can't fucking stand Trump but if this wasn't an election year this shit would have had 3 days in the news and then it would have been on to something else just like it was in 2018 when 90,000 fucking people died and you didn't even know it. Second wave my ass. Read, ask questions. There are nothing but holes in this covid story.
Trumps keeps taking this virus lighly because it hurts the bottom line for the rich. If a million dies 95% will be middleclass so it's easy to act like it no big deal like trumps did then hide in your bunker.What numbers going up? Tests and hospitalizations. Of course they are, weren't you paying attention when it was explained that the lockdowns didn't prevent covid infections but only delayed them? Texas still has 80,000 hospital beds and there are only 8,000 cases of covid, there is no crisis, people get it and 99.74% of them go home after a few days. In Harris County (Houston) 12.5% of the ICU cases are covid and in Travis (Austin) 10% are covid but somehow it's covid that is overwhelming the medical system? Now they are closing playgrounds when it's nearly impossible to transmit covid in the open air and kids are more likely to get killed playing on those play grounds than they would of covid so should we close them forever?
Like I told the other guy I can't fucking stand Trump but this bullshit is about the election and will totally disappear on November 4th like it never happened and when the CDC releases the total number or Americans who died in 2020 around April of next year it will be nearly exactly the same as 2018 when we had the last bad flu.
If every week was Shark Week and it showed on all channels 24/7 people in Omaha would be afraid to take a bath.
They are making a big deal in Texas "RECORD NUMBER OF HOSPITALIZATIONS" (3,000 statewide) what they don't say is that there are 18,000 beds reserved for Covid and over 80,000 total staffed beds in the fucking state, but it's a RECORD NUMBER OF HOSPITALIZATIONS!
Just because something is the most doesn't mean it's a lot.Actually by definition, the most of something would always be "a lot". Allenby has 10 pga tour hole in ones, that's the most, and therefore, that's a lot. If the most of something isn't a lot, then nothing is.
WinterKnight
07-06-20, 07:44
"There's no reason to be walking around with a mask. When you're in the middle of an outbreak, wearing a mask might make people feel a little bit better and it might even block a droplet, but it's not providing the perfect protection that people think that it is. And, often, there are unintended consequences people keep fiddling with the mask and they keep touching their face. " - Dr Anthony Fauci.
Reported cases are going up and yet day after day and week after week deaths keep going down but somehow this has nothing to do with increased testing. Maybe those people keep putting you down for being "concerned" because you keep calling them dickheads for asking questions about the glaring inconsistencies regarding the data with this "deadly" pandemic? It's ok for you to ignore doctors that are asking the same questions but we are just supposed to listen to the doctors that keep changing their minds?
It's all about the money? Thirty million fucking people lost their fucking jobs, for every 1% increase in unemployment 38,000 people die, there has been a 14% increase in unemployment so that's a half a million people but they don't mean shit because they aren't covid and it's only about money?
So far 400,000,000 people worldwide have been forced into extreme poverty because idiots like you can't take the time to find out that according to the CDC covid has a 99.74% overall survival rate (which explains why the daily deaths have been in decline) and somewhere around 20,000,000 of them are going to starve over the next year or two and the people who want to go to work are the jackholes?
You should be fucking ashamed for being such a sheeple. I can't fucking stand Trump but if this wasn't an election year this shit would have had 3 days in the news and then it would have been on to something else just like it was in 2018 when 90,000 fucking people died and you didn't even know it. Second wave my ass. Read, ask questions. There are nothing but holes in this covid story.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/fauci-masks-no-longer-needed/
You are citing an outdated quote from Dr. Fauci, from a 60 Minutes interview in March 2020. Per the article at the link provided, ".
In the March 2020 clip, Fauci said: "Right now in the United States people should not be walking around with masks. You should think of healthcare providers who are needing them and the people who are ill. ".
Since at least April 2020, the CDC recommended that everyone wear cloth masks in public to help slow the spread of COVID-19. That recommendation changed because of studies that found even people without coronavirus symptoms, but who may still have the disease, could transmit the virus through close interactions with others, especially through speaking, coughing, and sneezing:
In light of this new evidence, CDC recommends wearing cloth face coverings in public settings where other social distancing measures are difficult to maintain (e. G. , grocery stores and Fauci also clarified in a June interview that masks are helpful ". But it's masks plus physical separation. " This is in line with the CDC guideline that, "The cloth face cover is not a substitute for social distancing. ".
"There's no reason to be walking around with a mask. When you're in the middle of an outbreak, wearing a mask might make people feel a little bit better and it might even block a droplet, but it's not providing the perfect protection that people think that it is. And, often, there are unintended consequences people keep fiddling with the mask and they keep touching their face. " - Dr Anthony Fauci.
Please go away.
https://www.factcheck.org/2020/05/outdated-fauci-video-on-face-masks-shared-out-of-context/
Please go away.
https://www.factcheck.org/2020/05/outdated-fauci-video-on-face-masks-shared-out-of-context/-Govt's scarf woman admitted death count was 25% over-reported. That means 2-3 x that. Project Veritas has funeral service workers on video on YouTube you can look up that are having to tell families their loved one never had COVID, unlike what the govt is reporting. Families are talking about this everywhere.
-CDC admits tests are full of false positives for "regular flu".
-One reason for that is hospitals are being paid more to put people on ventilators and they are being paid for research by drug companies. Faucci's CDC is known to be in the pocket of drug companies, which means every hospital and university that wants research funds is going to do all they can to show they are the place that is on board with a vaccine being an answer.
-AVERAGE age of death (82) is higher than the average age of death.
-Speaking of vaccines, their telling you that they will stay shut down until one comes around is them telling you this is political. Anyone with a brain knows immunity will come from catching it, not a vaccine.
-There is no science behind 6-feet. It's a made up number. Europeans are doing 3-feet.
-Masks work in clinical settings that they are designed for. N95's protect the wearer, not the public; cloth masks do nothing but collect germs.
-Faucci is known for being wrong, but since he pushes drugs, the corporate media ignores it. He was totally wrong about HIV, but got an expensive new drug promoted by Magic J out into the world, so he's a success.
Don't be a sheep: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_9pqX9sXQM.
Please go away.
https://www.factcheck.org/2020/05/outdated-fauci-video-on-face-masks-shared-out-of-context/The quote is in it's entirety, AFTER he said it AND it became politically incorrect to say don't wear masks it was SPUN to mean he was saying that it was to preserve masks for medical professionals. Had he meant that he never would have said.
"When you're in the middle of an outbreak, wearing a mask might make people feel a little bit better and it might even block a droplet, but it's not providing the perfect protection that people think that it is. And, often, there are unintended consequences people keep fiddling with the mask and they keep touching their face. ".
Or "when you look at the films of foreign countries and you see 85% of the people wearing masks that's fine, that's fine. I'm not against it. If you want to do it, that's fine. " Implying go ahead if it makes you feel good but you're not doing anything.
If it was about shortages for health care professionals he would have said: "Don't wear masks because it will lead to a shortage of masks for health care professionals and they need them more. ".
So sad that you actually think snark is discourse. If it makes you feel virtuous ok go ahead. Like all the covid hysterics you are long on sound bites but critically short on reason.
Actually by definition, the most of something would always be "a lot". Allenby has 10 pga tour hole in ones, that's the most, and therefore, that's a lot. If the most of something isn't a lot, then nothing is.If another PGA course has never had a hole in one is that a lot as well? What about the course that has had one? Is that a lot? Even for that course does that make one a lot?
If you have 80,000 staffed hospital beds and the record for covid hospitalizations is 8000 then 10% is a lot because it's the most? If you get a beer that only has 10% in the bottle when it's opened then that is the most beer that has ever been in that bottle, would you thank the bar tender for giving you a lot of beer or would you say "hey buddy, my bottle is empty!
If you were fucking some hooker and she never, EVER gave somebody a BJ lasting more than 30 seconds but she gave you a record setting 45 second BJ would you come here and give her a great review?
A lot is in context not in the most it's ever been. I get it that you don't understand that and I'm trying to help you but I doubt you'll accept it.
GuyDetroit
07-06-20, 12:35
-Govt's scarf woman admitted death count was 25% over-reported. That means 2-3 x that. Project Veritas has funeral service workers on video on YouTube you can look up that are having to tell families their loved one never had COVID, unlike what the govt is reporting. Families are talking about this everywhere.
-CDC admits tests are full of false positives for "regular flu".
-One reason for that is hospitals are being paid more to put people on ventilators and they are being paid for research by drug companies. Faucci's CDC is known to be in the pocket of drug companies, which means every hospital and university that wants research funds is going to do all they can to show they are the place that is on board with a vaccine being an answer.
-AVERAGE age of death (82) is higher than the average age of death.
-Speaking of vaccines, their telling you that they will stay shut down until one comes around is them telling you this is political. Anyone with a brain knows immunity will come from catching it, not a vaccine.
-There is no science behind 6-feet. It's a made up number. Europeans are doing 3-feet.
-Masks work in clinical settings that they are designed for. N95's protect the wearer, not the public; cloth masks do nothing but collect germs.
-Faucci is known for being wrong, but since he pushes drugs, the corporate media ignores it. He was totally wrong about HIV, but got an expensive new drug promoted by Magic J out into the world, so he's a success.
Don't be a sheep: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_9pqX9sXQM.Citing a scam organization like project Veritas is not the best way to prove a point. Good old James O'Queef.
SmoothDriver
07-06-20, 21:46
If another PGA course has never had a hole in one is that a lot as well? What about the course that has had one? Is that a lot? Even for that course does that make one a lot?
If you have 80,000 staffed hospital beds and the record for covid hospitalizations is 8000 then 10% is a lot because it's the most? If you get a beer that only has 10% in the bottle when it's opened then that is the most beer that has ever been in that bottle, would you thank the bar tender for giving you a lot of beer or would you say "hey buddy, my bottle is empty! How about if only .5% die of the virus but your in the .5% , is that alot to you now?
If you were fucking some hooker and she never, EVER gave somebody a BJ lasting more than 30 seconds but she gave you a record setting 45 second BJ would you come here and give her a great review?
A lot is in context not in the most it's ever been. I get it that you don't understand that and I'm trying to help you but I doubt you'll accept it.If only. 5% die after getting the virus but your in the. 5%, I bet a meish person will think differently.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/fauci-masks-no-longer-needed/
You are citing an outdated quote from Dr. Fauci, from a 60 Minutes interview in March 2020. Per the article at the link provided, ".
In the March 2020 clip, Fauci said: "Right now in the United States people should not be walking around with masks. You should think of healthcare providers who are needing them and the people who are ill. ".
Since at least April 2020, the CDC recommended that everyone wear cloth masks in public to help slow the spread of COVID-19. That recommendation changed because of studies that found even people without coronavirus symptoms, but who may still have the disease, could transmit the virus through close interactions with others, especially through speaking, coughing, and sneezing:
In light of this new evidence, CDC recommends wearing cloth face coverings in public settings where other social distancing measures are difficult to maintain (e. G. , grocery stores and Fauci also clarified in a June interview that masks are helpful ". But it's masks plus physical separation. " This is in line with the CDC guideline that, "The cloth face cover is not a substitute for social distancing. ".Agreed. Fauci and CDC have clarified that masks and social distancing are helpful in limiting the spread.
Denial is foolish and dangerous.
If only. 5% die after getting the virus but your in the. 5%, I bet a meish person will think differently.You have to add something to my post I didn't write to make your point. If that wasn't so pathetic it would be funny.
FYI it's. 26% not. 5%.
I know this may be hard for you to understand but people die. About 225,000 a month die every month. The graph I posted shows they aren't dying of covid. Maybe you could download that and put it into photoshop so you can make it say whatever you want like you did when you quoted me.
Agreed. Fauci and CDC have clarified that masks and social distancing are helpful in limiting the spread.
Denial is foolish and dangerous.How many more of these do we need to kill before some of you can feel safe?
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/09/coronavirus-could-push-half-a-billion-people-into-poverty-globally.html
WinterKnight
07-08-20, 00:07
How many more of these do we need to kill before some of you can feel safe?
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/09/coronavirus-could-push-half-a-billion-people-into-poverty-globally.htmlIronically, at the link you provided above was an accompanying story on a study on Spain that calls into question the viability of herd immunity strategies:
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/07/herd-immunity-questioned-after-spanish-coronavirus-antibody-study.html
WinterKnight
07-08-20, 00:43
Citing a scam organization like project Veritas is not the best way to prove a point. Good old James O'Queef.Agreed. I never heard of Project Veritas before; one simple search returned pages of cites of misdeeds by this organization.
How many more of these do we need to kill before some of you can feel safe?
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/09/coronavirus-could-push-half-a-billion-people-into-poverty-globally.htmlHave no idea what your question is.
Agreed. I never heard of Project Veritas before; one simple search returned pages of cites of misdeeds by this organization.One simple search cites misdeeds. Care to quote it?
They do undercover video, dude. All they do is publish what people say on film. It's people in their own words LOL. Yes, pages of people don't like when they tell the truth and are caught, I'm sure.
Want to know who is scamming you? Your government. 30 "COVID deaths" yesterday. 20 were from "reviewing past files. ".
You realize what that means, right? It means they get more money if it's a COVID death so they look for reasons to list it as.
Just as Project Vertias's videos of mortuary staff calls with family show.
Citing a scam organization like project Veritas is not the best way to prove a point. Good old James O'Queef.Dude who picks out 1 organization he doesn't like out of many points and uses it to invalidate every claim. That dude says "citing a scam org" is not the best way to prove a point.
Name-calling and citing no source is LOL.
Veritas isn't the source, bro. The physicians and undertakers and family members they have on film are the sources. And, as I said, that's just 1 you can find easily on YouTube. These family members are all over. I bet the 20 deaths "reassigned" yesterday - 2/3 of the increased death count. Aren't even being told their family members are being listed as COVID now.
But, believe the scam. Are you profitting from it personally? It's kind of a mass delusion at this point if you're still buying it. I'd show you a little respect if you're profiting from keeping the scam going, but otherwise, you're just showing yourself to be easily controlled by idiots.
Eaton Beaver
07-08-20, 10:40
Ironically, at the link you provided above was an accompanying story on a study on Spain that calls into question the viability of herd immunity strategies:
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/07/herd-immunity-questioned-after-spanish-coronavirus-antibody-study.htmlQuestion all the stragities we like. Does not change the truth that, if this is a naturally occuring virus and NOT a man made pathagon / weapon that either escaped from a lab or was purposely released as a test. Once "nature" kills off enough of the weak, it will subside or disappear. The fataility rate (even with the phony reporting as death from Covid for profit) continues to fall.
SmoothDriver
07-08-20, 18:05
Question all the stragities we like. Does not change the truth that, if this is a naturally occuring virus and NOT a man made pathagon / weapon that either escaped from a lab or was purposely released as a test. Once "nature" kills off enough of the weak, it will subside or disappear. The fataility rate (even with the phony reporting as death from Covid for profit) continues to fall.Hurry your azz up and go to playhouse or Harpets in East Lansing and show them scared people what a man you are. Then get back to us in about a month. I love experiments. Hurry!
WinterKnight
07-09-20, 15:51
Hurry your azz up and go to playhouse or Harpets in East Lansing and show them scared people what a man you are. Then get back to us in about a month. I love experiments. HurryLOL! Unfortunately, that experiment won't take place at Harper's of East Lansing, because it is closed again following the spike in infections among their most recent patrons, despite all the precautions taken by the owners and staff. Stupid bar patrons chose to go unmasked, pushed tables together that had been set apart by staff; and ignored the line markers set six feet apart.
From the Detroit Free Press:
Mitch Albom: Young people, bars and the coronavirus. What did we expect?
https://www.freep.com/story/sports/columnists/mitch-albom/2020/06/28/mitch-albom-harpers-bar-east-lansing-michigan-coronavirus/3270100001/
Question all the stragities we like. Does not change the truth that, if this is a naturally occuring virus and NOT a man made pathagon / weapon that either escaped from a lab or was purposely released as a test. Once "nature" kills off enough of the weak, it will subside or disappear. The fataility rate (even with the phony reporting as death from Covid for profit) continues to fall.There is zero evidence that hospitals are upcoding cause of death to covid to get more federal money. The amount medicare pays for covid is similar to that for other respiratory diseases.
WinterKnight
07-09-20, 23:40
There is zero evidence that hospitals are upcoding cause of death to covid to get more federal money. The amount medicare pays for covid is similar to that for other respiratory diseasesThank you for pointing this out.
WinterKnight
07-10-20, 00:02
Question all the stragities we like. Does not change the truth that, if this is a naturally occuring virus and NOT a man made pathagon / weapon that either escaped from a lab or was purposely released as a test. Once "nature" kills off enough of the weak, it will subside or disappear. The fataility rate (even with the phony reporting as death from Covid for profit) continues to fall.The strategy of social distancing and masking has been shown to be effective when followed properly.
If this pathogen, as you tried to say, was manufactured and weapon used to kill people, don't you think the survival rate would be significantly less than the 99.74% rate that Admin2 quoted repeatedly?
When "nature" kills off the WEAK, the disease will subside and disappear?? Where did you receive your health professional certification? In a cereal box? Tell that to the formerly healthy medical personnel who contracted it while treating sick people.
It never ceases to amaze me how many random people are suddenly experts on epidemiology, and are far greater experts on the subject than are the medical professionals who have devoted their careers to the study of disease. Bravo to you, sir! Who needs to waste time and effort pursuing and education when you have YouTube?! Smh.
WinterKnight
07-10-20, 09:16
There is zero evidence that hospitals are upcoding cause of death to covid to get more federal money. The amount medicare pays for covid is similar to that for other respiratory diseasesAlso, the payments are for the TREATMENT of patients with Covid-19; not for the deaths. It wouldn't help the hospital at all to change the cause of death to Covid for a patient who was treated for, say, cardiac arrest.
Concupiscent69
07-10-20, 13:59
Also, the payments are for the TREATMENT of patients with Covid-19; not for the deaths. It wouldn't help the hospital at all to change the cause of death to Covid for a patient who was treated for, say, cardiac arrest.Several months ago the Michigan medical director or whatever her title is, announced on air how they tally death vis Covid. She admitted that people with suppressed immune system who contracted Covid, then died, is listed as a Covid death, even though it could have been the cause of their weakened immune system. The same applies with the flu. The flu kills people also with suppressed immune systems and if contracted and die, it's a flu death. I'm trying to debate with myself if that right to do whereas a part of me says, that disease may have push them over the edge but the reality is, their suppressed system was the real problem and ANY disease can push them over the edge. Even with the total numbers, I believe the margin of error is broad.
There is zero evidence that hospitals are upcoding cause of death to covid to get more federal money. The amount medicare pays for covid is similar to that for other respiratory diseases.Payments are subject to documentation. Lab tests, xrays etc. There is also an audit process which could be 9-15 months later. Upcoding carries a big risk, so isn't common. Get your Medicare payments suspend, the hospital closes. Most patients have been over 65.
DRG payments are different for pneumonia, pneumonia needing ICU, and Covid-19 breathing treatment and Intubation. Starts at $5k, $13k and $37k
Several months ago the Michigan medical director or whatever her title is, announced on air how they tally death vis Covid. She admitted that people with suppressed immune system who contracted Covid, then died, is listed as a Covid death, even though it could have been the cause of their weakened immune system. The same applies with the flu. The flu kills people also with suppressed immune systems and if contracted and die, it's a flu death. I'm trying to debate with myself if that right to do whereas a part of me says, that disease may have push them over the edge but the reality is, their suppressed system was the real problem and ANY disease can push them over the edge. Even with the total numbers, I believe the margin of error is broad.True but then you have to say no one dies from cancer, they really die from organ failure. No one dies from a car accident, they die from brain damage, which leads to cardiac arrest. In reality, under your analysis, the only true cause of death is heart failure.
Concupiscent69
07-10-20, 22:32
True but then you have to say no one dies from cancer, they really die from organ failure. No one dies from a car accident, they die from brain damage, which leads to cardiac arrest. In reality, under your analysis, the only true cause of death is heart failure.Not really. A healthy person who develops cancer and dies actually died from cancer, even though it shut down their organs, the initial cause is cancer. A healthy person who dies from brain trauma sustained from an accident, died from the cause of the accident. These are healthy people who died from single causes regardless of that cause shutting down an organ. An unhealthy person with an already suppressed immune system, such as asthma, heart condition, diabetes, etc. Is already at risk of premature death caused by that condition. A virus heightens and worsen the condition, resulting in death whereas the chance of a healthy person who contracts, as proven, isn't a certainty of death. Therefore, did the virus actually cause the death or simply worsen the suppressed immune system to finally cave, which as I stated, any virus would do the same.
There is zero evidence that hospitals are upcoding cause of death to covid to get more federal money. The amount medicare pays for covid is similar to that for other respiratory diseases.Zero evidence.
Going back to re-code deaths to COVID that weren't. Payments for coding it beforehand already incentivized it, payments for it after.
Payments for being hooked to a respirator are higher. And, communists know how communism works; if there is a disease and "emergency" then more money flows to that area. Trump is tweeting at hospitals with COVID research, dude! Guess what that does to donations and grants????
This is how the game works! It worked the same in the "college rape" game. You report more rapes, you get more govt, charity, and individual donation $$$$$$$$. So, every unwanted brush of a hand on an arm is now reported as a rape. You would think people on this board would know how the game works.
Italy claimed high rates despite NO testing and evidence. Italy knows how communism works.
Sorry bud, it's common sense and incentives and payouts. The claim "ZERO EVIDENCE THAT CEOS WANT MORE MONEY! Is retarded. They get more money directly (which you only address for a fraction of the cases), at university / hospitals for study, and in CITIES to work with hospitals to turn buildings into COVID facilities and stock them with government-price paid utilities.
"ZERO EVIDENCE" dude. You have all the evidence you need. Local hospitals were approached across the nation to takeover convention centers and get paid to do it.
ZERO EVIDENCE guy. You're not that bright.
True but then you have to say no one dies from cancer, they really die from organ failure. No one dies from a car accident, they die from brain damage, which leads to cardiac arrest. In reality, under your analysis, the only true cause of death is heart failure.COVID isn't something you can test for 100%. Most of the tests picked up past COVID strains which led to false positives, and there have been lots of false negatives. You seem to think they have tests for COVID only and it's perfect... nope, not true. And, you really die from what you really die from. Yes, the flu may have caused you to die from problems you already had with organs. You died from: 1) Organ failure, 2) the flu, 3) NOT COVID. There is no test for it, the true cause is heart failure, bro. If you didn't have shitty organs or diabetes a virus or flu or whatever just accelerates your actual death due to organ failure. You actually did die due to organ failure. Your excuse making to inflation COVID is retarded.
BC you actually died from it and everything else is a guess.
When you die and they go back and look to see if you had a cough. Guess what? You died from heart failure bc you had a weak immune system.
Your entire point rests upon some fantasy that COVID is widespread. It's less than 0. 5% by government numbers that call every death a COVID death.
And. They already were using COVID as primary bc it's easier and in their liberal interests.
Amazed by that. I always thought people here understood how govt worked to shame the public into getting them to comply. Apparently we have a lot of complaint followers.
OMG! Gretchen is following "the science" and dudes here say "it took me 5 seconds for Google to tell me she's right. ".
Guess what else Google will tell you is right about your activities LOL. Such followers. Or, fatties that know they might die a few minutes sooner if a dancer's mask doesn't block 1/1,000th of her spit. How boring.
Maybe it's a combination of the two. Followers and fatties? We should have a weight / health requirement before some of these ballsy followers get too aggressive with their posts about how smart they iz for listening to Grams Gretchen's "science" she refuses to tell the source of.
You can make fun of fatties all you want, but the fact is a huge percentage of the population has 2 conditions that increase your Covid19 death rate. And on a website where we talk about paying for sex, its probably even worse. I'm sure the 50 year old fatties here plan on living a couple more decades.
COVID isn't something you can test for 100%. Most of the tests picked up past COVID strains which led to false positives, and there have been lots of false negatives. You seem to think they have tests for COVID only and it's perfect... nope, not true. And, you really die from what you really die from. Yes, the flu may have caused you to die from problems you already had with organs. You died from: 1) Organ failure, 2) the flu, 3) NOT COVID. There is no test for it, the true cause is heart failure, bro. If you didn't have shitty organs or diabetes a virus or flu or whatever just accelerates your actual death due to organ failure. You actually did die due to organ failure. Your excuse making to inflation COVID is retarded.
BC you actually died from it and everything else is a guess.
When you die and they go back and look to see if you had a cough. Guess what? You died from heart failure bc you had a weak immune system.
Your entire point rests upon some fantasy that COVID is widespread. It's less than 0. 5% by government numbers that call every death a COVID death.
And. They already were using COVID as primary bc it's easier and in their liberal interests.I guess people who die from cancer also should be classified as dying from a weak immune system. You are a conspiracy theorist tard.
NickHalden7
07-11-20, 07:34
Amazed by that. I always thought people here understood how govt worked to shame the public into getting them to comply. Apparently we have a lot of complaint followers.
OMG! Gretchen is following "the science" and dudes here say "it took me 5 seconds for Google to tell me she's right. ".
Guess what else Google will tell you is right about your activities LOL. Such followers. Or, fatties that know they might die a few minutes sooner if a dancer's mask doesn't block 1/1,000th of her spit. How boring.
Maybe it's a combination of the two. Followers and fatties? We should have a weight / health requirement before some of these ballsy followers get too aggressive with their posts about how smart they iz for listening to Grams Gretchen's "science" she refuses to tell the source of.What the hell is wrong with you people? Why do you have to mock someone who is actually trying to tackle the pandemic in the most humanely as possible, just look at the chart, compare our state with the recent top ones you'll see the difference, learn to appreciate the effort and please don't spread conspiracy theories here!!
I guess people who die from cancer also should be classified as dying from a weak immune system. You are a conspiracy theorist tard.Since April 14th anybody who dies with covid regardless of why they actually died has been counted as a covid death.
"As of April 14,2020, CDC case counts and death counts include both confirmed and probable cases and deaths. " You can look it up on the CDC's site, I'm tired of linking to it.
When you add in the financial incentives for hospitals to classify deaths as covid then yup, the system is ripe for abuse. That's why Colorado went back and reclassified all their cases as Died of and Died with.
Still a 99.74% overall survival rate which never is mentioned, especially when they do the danger porn announcements of number of cases. They make them sound as if all of those people are dead. Saying "ok 10000 new cases were reported yesterday and 9974 of them are going to be just fine in 3-5 days doesn't generate as many clicks.
You can make fun of fatties all you want, but the fact is a huge percentage of the population has 2 conditions that increase your Covid19 death rate. And on a website where we talk about paying for sex, its probably even worse. I'm sure the 50 year old fatties here plan on living a couple more decades.We have 400,000 registered members on this site. If every single one of them was infected with covid then 398,960 of them would be over it by next week and would be writing about pussy and looking for where they would be getting their next blowjob.
You may not like that, it may not make you feel as virtuous as shaming people for not believing it's the black death but none the less it remains a fact not open for debate or perception. 99.74% survival rate. Since they are all being assumed to be 50 and overweight their chances of dying this year of a heart attack are much higher. When the election is over and no media outlet is posting about covid any longer are you going to start insisting that anybody with a BMI over 15 can't eat meat?
Just wondering.
What the hell is wrong with you people? Why do you have to mock someone who is actually trying to tackle the pandemic in the most humanely as possible, just look at the chart, compare our state with the recent top ones you'll see the difference, learn to appreciate the effort and please don't spread conspiracy theories here!Seriously the most humane way possible? Brother I know you think that is true but have you ever heard the saying that when the US Economy sniffles the rest of the world gets pneumonia?
This is the result of the covid mitigation and 30,000,000 lost jobs in the US.
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/09/coronavirus-could-push-half-a-billion-people-into-poverty-globally.html Of the 400,000,000 people who have been forced back into extreme poverty what percentage do you think will be dead of starvation in the next year?
Here's another one, this is rght now in Colombia. About a week ago I heard the mayor of Medellin getting a handjob interview on NPR about what a great job he was doing because "only" 1000 people died. He was bloviating about how successful their safety net was being. Fucking liar. I know people there that are putting their kids to bed hungry every day now. And again 99.74% overall survival rate, I'm just going to keep saying that. 99.74%.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/11/world/americas/coronavirus-latin-america-inequality.html
If you don't care about poor brown people far from the US then lets talk about the people closer to home. In the book "The De-Industrialization of America" Barry Bluestone makes that case that every 1% increase in the unemployment rate accounts for 38,000 deaths. This work was published long before covid and he's a lefty so nobody can call it faulty. The US has had I think a 12% increase in unemployment so that's 456,000 deaths. As of now the US has had 120,000 deaths for people WITH covid and that has been clearly flat the last two month regardless of what CNN says. I guess my question is, do the 456,000 not count because they don't have the disease that MSNBC, CNN, CBS, ABC, NBC are talking about 24/7?
If you want to be humane then all those lives are important and we are killing them for a disease that has a 99.74% survival rate. This is the chart, daily deaths which are down. It took all the really sick people in March and April so them deaths have been on the decline. They are going to jump soon because people are looking at it and they will have to change some reporting standard like they did in mid April when there wasn't enough deaths s that all the states that tried to return to life can be "proven" reckless but there is no denying that it's been declining for two months.
I know some of you team lockdown guys are going to try and shame me but all of you will attack me personally because none of you have anything of value to say about the covid mitigation induced deaths that will be 10 x what covid would have been. All you have is "so every doctor. " blah blah fucking blah.
I can't wait for November when this all ends.
A2.
Eaton Beaver
07-11-20, 15:34
Meanwhile at testing centers around the globe:
Seriously the most humane way possible? Brother I know you think that is true but have you ever heard the saying that when the US Economy sniffles the rest of the world gets pneumonia?
This is the result of the covid mitigation and 30,000,000 lost jobs in the US.
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/09/coronavirus-could-push-half-a-billion-people-into-poverty-globally.html Of the 400,000,000 people who have been forced back into extreme poverty what percentage do you think will be dead of starvation in the next year?
Here's another one, this is rght now in Colombia. About a week ago I heard the mayor of Medellin getting a handjob interview on NPR about what a great job he was doing because "only" 1000 people died. He was bloviating about how successful their safety net was being. Fucking liar. I know people there that are putting their kids to bed hungry every day now. And again 99.74% overall survival rate, I'm just going to keep saying that. 99.74%.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/11/world/americas/coronavirus-latin-america-inequality.html
If you don't care about poor brown people far from the US then lets talk about the people closer to home. In the book "The De-Industrialization of America" Barry Bluestone makes that case that every 1% increase in the unemployment rate accounts for 38,000 deaths. This work was published long before covid and he's a lefty so nobody can call it faulty. The US has had I think a 12% increase in unemployment so that's 456,000 deaths. As of now the US has had 120,000 deaths for people WITH covid and that has been clearly flat the last two month regardless of what CNN says. I guess my question is, do the 456,000 not count because they don't have the disease that MSNBC, CNN, CBS, ABC, NBC are talking about 24/7?
If you want to be humane then all those lives are important and we are killing them for a disease that has a 99.74% survival rate. This is the chart, daily deaths which are down. It took all the really sick people in March and April so them deaths have been on the decline. They are going to jump soon because people are looking at it and they will have to change some reporting standard like they did in mid April when there wasn't enough deaths s that all the states that tried to return to life can be "proven" reckless but there is no denying that it's been declining for two months.
I know some of you team lockdown guys are going to try and shame me but all of you will attack me personally because none of you have anything of value to say about the covid mitigation induced deaths that will be 10 x what covid would have been. All you have is "so every doctor. " blah blah fucking blah.
I can't wait for November when this all ends.
A2.LOL it's people like you that drank the koolaid in James town.
LOL it's people like you that drank the koolaid in James town.And you're so fucking stupid you don't know that they drank the Kool aid in Jonestown not Jamestown.
Thanks for playing.
Concupiscent69
07-11-20, 23:17
And you're so fucking stupid you don't know that they drank the Kool aid in Jonestown not Jamestown.
Thanks for playing.I doubt you'll post this because you abuse your power. But tell me why you're allowed to reply with animosity and argumentative comments yet delete anyone else who does the same. As the message you provide when citing an infraction "Your recent report was deleted because it contributed nothing of value and in fact constituted a complete waste of bandwidth. The purpose of this Forum is to provide for the exchange if information between men on the subject of finding women for sex. Please stick to the subject" I guess it doesn't apply to you.
Hap Hunter
07-11-20, 23:27
Seriously the most humane way possible? Brother I know you think that is true but have you ever heard the saying that when the US Economy sniffles the rest of the world gets pneumonia?
This is the result of the covid mitigation and 30,000,000 lost jobs in the US.
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/09/coronavirus-could-push-half-a-billion-people-into-poverty-globally.html Of the 400,000,000 people who have been forced back into extreme poverty what percentage do you think will be dead of starvation in the next year?
Here's another one, this is rght now in Colombia. About a week ago I heard the mayor of Medellin getting a handjob interview on NPR about what a great job he was doing because "only" 1000 people died. He was bloviating about how successful their safety net was being. Fucking liar. I know people there that are putting their kids to bed hungry every day now. And again 99.74% overall survival rate, I'm just going to keep saying that. 99.74%.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/11/world/americas/coronavirus-latin-america-inequality.html
If you don't care about poor brown people far from the US then lets talk about the people closer to home. In the book "The De-Industrialization of America" Barry Bluestone makes that case that every 1% increase in the unemployment rate accounts for 38,000 deaths. This work was published long before covid and he's a lefty so nobody can call it faulty. The US has had I think a 12% increase in unemployment so that's 456,000 deaths. As of now the US has had 120,000 deaths for people WITH covid and that has been clearly flat the last two month regardless of what CNN says. I guess my question is, do the 456,000 not count because they don't have the disease that MSNBC, CNN, CBS, ABC, NBC are talking about 24/7?
If you want to be humane then all those lives are important and we are killing them for a disease that has a 99.74% survival rate. This is the chart, daily deaths which are down. It took all the really sick people in March and April so them deaths have been on the decline. They are going to jump soon because people are looking at it and they will have to change some reporting standard like they did in mid April when there wasn't enough deaths s that all the states that tried to return to life can be "proven" reckless but there is no denying that it's been declining for two months.
I know some of you team lockdown guys are going to try and shame me but all of you will attack me personally because none of you have anything of value to say about the covid mitigation induced deaths that will be 10 x what covid would have been. All you have is "so every doctor. " blah blah fucking blah.
I can't wait for November when this all ends.
A2.Well said A2!
Problem is Lefty cannot handle being wrong. Those of us with objectivity, critical thinking skills and have good common sense can see right through the BS.
Keep up the good work!
For you Covid scared, please stay away from the women out there and leave the Mongering to others.
Well said A2!
Problem is Lefty cannot handle being wrong. Those of us with objectivity, critical thinking skills and have good common sense can see right through the BS.
Keep up the good work!
For you Covid scared, please stay away from the women out there and leave the Mongering to others.This whole covid 19 thing was started by Hillary Clinton and the Dems when they were raping kids in the basement of a pizza parlor that had no basement. And Mexico wrote a big fat check to pay for the wall. You can't make this stuff up. I will never listen to my MD again conspiracy nut cases know more than the Doctors. And oh yea more than the Generals. Pass me a tin foil hat. And you guys all know the earth is flat because you can't believe the scientist and experts ever.
LOL this is nut job central.
NickHalden7
07-12-20, 09:01
Well said A2!
Problem is Lefty cannot handle being wrong. Those of us with objectivity, critical thinking skills and have good common sense can see right through the BS.
Keep up the good work!
For you Covid scared, please stay away from the women out there and leave the Mongering to others.Ohh now you want to divert the conversation to this is something related to politics?? This is a matter or science and facts, I'm sorry your world of fox news, Breitbart or whatever that shit is doesn't focus on reality. If you're going to believe everything that crazy ass clown in White House, you're in the right place, I have a bridge to see in NYC want to buy?
Get your facts right, just stay safe and wear your fucking masks. Not everything is a conspiracy and please don't try to downplay the pandemic, look at other countries how well they've been trying to come together and control it. Meanwhile here, we're fucking discussing as to send children to the schools with out proper precautions, this shit is just insane. If you don't see the real problem here, I must say problem is within you my brother.
I understand that the mortality rate is going down, but you'll need to understand that's not the case of every state. Don't pick and chose the graph you're comfortable with, get a grip on reality and focus of all of the facts.
Well said A2!
Problem is Lefty cannot handle being wrong. Those of us with objectivity, critical thinking skills and have good common sense can see right through the BS.
Keep up the good work!
For you Covid scared, please stay away from the women out there and leave the Mongering to others.I'm a lifelong lefty, still am, always will be. Lots of lefty's have the ability to think critically. By painting this in red / blue terms, as those on the right are so quick to do with everything you remove any ability for discourse and perhaps a solution.
The posts I put up were fact based not politically motivated.
Sorry to disappoint you.
A2.
I doubt you'll post this because you abuse your power. But tell me why you're allowed to reply with animosity and argumentative comments yet delete anyone else who does the same. As the message you provide when citing an infraction "Your recent report was deleted because it contributed nothing of value and in fact constituted a complete waste of bandwidth. The purpose of this Forum is to provide for the exchange if information between men on the subject of finding women for sex. Please stick to the subject" I guess it doesn't apply to you.When there are really stupid people posting really stupid shit I move that to the fight thread to respond. Which is what this is.
As far as abusing my power, there are a couple issues with that. Mostly because my power, on this forum, is absolute there can be no abuse. I am literally above the law here because all the rules that there are here flow from my authority on this web site. You think it's abuse because you in less than a year you have managed to rack up 7 flags. If I cared enough to look I know you're somebody who has been banned several times because you just don't understand that this isn't your forum and there are rules you have to follow.
I doubt you will understand this but its how it works, it's why royalty were never subject to their own laws. I have no illusions that that power extends beyond this forum but it's the way it has to be here, there is one of me and 400,000 of you. We are ok with an element of anarchy but ultimately if the content isn't moderated the site loses utility and at the end of the day it's a business so it requires business decisions.
Hope that helps with the butthurt but like I said I doubt it will.
A2.
Ohh now you want to divert the conversation to this is something related to politics?? This is a matter or science and facts, I'm sorry your world of fox news, Breitbart or whatever that shit is doesn't focus on reality. If you're going to believe everything that crazy ass clown in White House, you're in the right place, I have a bridge to see in NYC want to buy?
Get your facts right, just stay safe and wear your fucking masks. Not everything is a conspiracy and please don't try to downplay the pandemic, look at other countries how well they've been trying to come together and control it. Meanwhile here, we're fucking discussing as to send children to the schools with out proper precautions, this shit is just insane. If you don't see the real problem here, I must say problem is within you my brother.
I understand that the mortality rate is going down, but you'll need to understand that's not the case of every state. Don't pick and chose the graph you're comfortable with, get a grip on reality and focus of all of the facts.The entire world over, everywhere that covid has struck has had an over all 99.74% survival rate. With people under 20 that number is something like 99.9999999999999999999999999999999999999% yes I know CNN will always report on the one in 100,000,000 kid that died from this but statistically more kids will die going from home to school than will of the virus so exactly what proper precautions do kids who are demonstrably nearly immune to the effects of the virus need?
BTW the IFR rate by age group is a matter of fact so please respond with facts not with "if it saves one kid" because if that were true we wouldn't be starving them in the third world so folks like you could insist on the biggest demonstration of privilege in my lifetime.
99.74% overall survival rate is a fact yet team lockdown keeps comparing the virus to the plague.
Death rate in decline for 3 months is a fact which proves the greater number of cases is testing. Remember anti body testing in NY proved that over 3,000,000 people had and recovered from Covid in April. It was an easy story to miss because MSNBC and CNN went with "Trump tells people to inject bleach" instead of "Great News Covid not nearly as lethal as thought" when those studies were released.
Seriously, how do you answer that only 10% of the ICU beds in Travis County and 10% of the ICU beds in Harris County were taking up 12.5% of the ICU beds yet somehow it was Covid that was overwhelming the health care system. Those are straight up facts not open to debate.
It's not conspiracy theory to say that it wasn't unprecedented for NYC docs to be working in tents and using refrigerated trucks to deal with flu because there's a story in Time, published in 2018 saying they were doing the same thing.
Now this part is a little conspiracy theoryish. It's my contention that this will all be over on November 4th. You can argue with me all you want but I'm waiting to see what happens. It's also my contention that next year in April when the CDC releases the overall number of people who died in the US in 2020 it will be within 1% of the number who died in 2018 which was the last pandemic year. I'm not saying the number that died of, I'm talking about the total number of people who died and I'd bet 10 g's it's not going to have risen. I think that's the only number that will have any real meaning and no spin from 2020. If I'm wrong then I was wrong about the whole thing and I'll feel like an asshole but if I'm right and around 2.8 million people die this year then you are one of the people who pushed 400,000,000 million people back into extreme poverty the world over for nothing and you better get a second job to help the relief efforts because the amount of dying that is going to cause is going to take a decade to cure.
A2.
Ohh now you want to divert the conversation to this is something related to politics?? This is a matter or science and facts, I'm sorry your world of fox news, Breitbart or whatever that shit is doesn't focus on reality. If you're going to believe everything that crazy ass clown in White House, you're in the right place, I have a bridge to see in NYC want to buy?
Get your facts right, just stay safe and wear your fucking masks. Not everything is a conspiracy and please don't try to downplay the pandemic, look at other countries how well they've been trying to come together and control it. Meanwhile here, we're fucking discussing as to send children to the schools with out proper precautions, this shit is just insane. If you don't see the real problem here, I must say problem is within you my brother.
I understand that the mortality rate is going down, but you'll need to understand that's not the case of every state. Don't pick and chose the graph you're comfortable with, get a grip on reality and focus of all of the facts.The facts are the W. H. O is in bed with China. Fact is W. H. O knew about this and didn't tell the world. Now you want me to believe in these so called doctors and their facts. People die with the flu and no one protest burns citys or shuts the country down. I don't believe in modern day medicine. I suggest a big IF you get the virus and a vaccine comes please be smart and don't take it. Just because someone has the virus don't mean they are going to die. More people die of texting driving. Drunk driving opioids, gang banging and abortions and the left don't protest. Help me understand that pandemic I just stated. Keep washing hands and don't touch your nose or eat with dirty hands and you will be fine if you don't have any health issues. People are dying of health issues on this virus pandemic the flu or sars or aids would kill just the same with those with health issies. Just saying.
Concupiscent69
07-12-20, 15:27
When there are really stupid people posting really stupid shit I move that to the fight thread to respond. Which is what this is.
As far as abusing my power, there are a couple issues with that. Mostly because my power, on this forum, is absolute there can be no abuse. I am literally above the law here because all the rules that there are here flow from my authority on this web site. You think it's abuse because you in less than a year you have managed to rack up 7 flags. If I cared enough to look I know you're somebody who has been banned several times because you just don't understand that this isn't your forum and there are rules you have to follow.
I doubt you will understand this but its how it works, it's why royalty were never subject to their own laws. I have no illusions that that power extends beyond this forum but it's the way it has to be here, there is one of me and 400,000 of you. We are ok with an element of anarchy but ultimately if the content isn't moderated the site loses utility and at the end of the day it's a business so it requires business decisions.
Hope that helps with the butthurt but like I said I doubt it will.
A2.I'll now consider this issue dropped.
Thank you, you surprised me, I thought you were going to put up a long winder post continuing to justify your self entitled behavior. I wasn't expecting you to show this kind of class.
A2
If you don't care about poor brown people far from the US then lets talk about the people closer to home. In the book "The De-Industrialization of America" Barry Bluestone makes that case that every 1% increase in the unemployment rate accounts for 38,000 deaths. This work was published long before covid and he's a lefty so nobody can call it faulty. The US has had I think a 12% increase in unemployment so that's 456,000 deaths.
A2.The 12% you refer to would have to be an annualized percent for your calculation to make sense. Secondly bluestone did not take into consideration The impact of furloughs (retaining medical coverage) and govt $600 weekly checks.
The 12% you refer to would have to be an annualized percent for your calculation to make sense. Secondly bluestone did not take into consideration The impact of furloughs (retaining medical coverage) and govt $600 weekly checks.Good points, I'll cut it in half so it's only twice as many people as have died from corona.
Worldwide it will be in the tens of millions.
Every 30,000 Americans that die, you'll have to increase your death rate up by. 01% That is assuming worst case scenario of everybody being infected.
There's a lot more going on here than just the chances of live vs death: https://i.redd.it/jo26b3lcsha51.jpg.
There's a lot more going on here than just the chances of live vs death: https://i.redd.it/jo26b3lcsha51.jpg.Literally all of the points in that article are conjecture and hyperbole.
It's not 1% according to the CDC it's. 26% 1% is an increase by a factor of four but you know, details. It's also based on 1% of the total population, there has never, ever, in the history of the world been a disease that everybody gets.
It doesn't assume that you die or you're fine, as with all illnesses there are going to be a small fraction that develop co morbidity but there is no study, anywhere that says".
For every person that dies 18 will have permanent heart damage, 10 will have permanent lung damage, 3 will have strokes, ect. Show me a peer reviewed article that confirms those figures or he made it up just like Neil Ferguson made up the "2,000,000 will die number. " Seriously I would love to see the peer reviewed article published in a medical journal that confirms these numbers.
It's the mysterious LTR (Long Term Effects) claim for a disease that hasn't been around long enough to have any blind studies showing what possible LTR's there might be.
As to the economic fallout there are 150,000,000 people working right now, the Bureau of Labor Statistics says that around. 1% of the workforce is absent every day so that's 1.5 million absent from work everyday and the economy doesn't even notice.
All these articles are the same, if you just scratch them the slightest bit they all fall apart. This is nothing but fear mongering propaganda.
The facts are the W. H. O is in bed with China. Fact is W. H. O knew about this and didn't tell the world. Now you want me to believe in these so called doctors and their facts. People die with the flu and no one protest burns citys or shuts the country down. I don't believe in modern day medicine. I suggest a big IF you get the virus and a vaccine comes please be smart and don't take it. Just because someone has the virus don't mean they are going to die. More people die of texting driving. Drunk driving opioids, gang banging and abortions and the left don't protest. Help me understand that pandemic I just stated. Keep washing hands and don't touch your nose or eat with dirty hands and you will be fine if you don't have any health issues. People are dying of health issues on this virus pandemic the flu or sars or aids would kill just the same with those with health issies. Just saying.Sadly all of the people like myself that are questioning the narrative the media is painting for Covid 19 get lumped into conspiracy theorist anti vaxxers like this.
Sadly all of the people like myself that are questioning the narrative the media is painting for Covid 19 get lumped into conspiracy theorist anti vaxxers like this.Google actor Nick Cordero. 41 year old healthy married with kids white male dead from CV-19! But you right get you medical advice from your plumber who surfs all the nut job conspiracy web sites. Not your Doctor.
Now Pass me a tin foil hat so the Guament can't control my brain. All those bodies in the morgues are fake corpses. Just say Fake News Fake news because some people just can't handle the truth.
Google actor Nick Cordero. 41 year old healthy married with kids white male dead from CV-19! But you right get you medical advice from your plumber who surfs all the nut job conspiracy web sites. Not your Doctor.
Now Pass me a tin foil hat so the Guament can't control my brain. All those bodies in the morgues are fake corpses. Just say Fake News Fake news because some people just can't handle the truth.We should all get our Medical advice from guys who spend their spare time online trying to have sex with Drug addicted females who have multiple partners per day. The hell with the Doctors get your Medical advice from that guy. LOL.
Google actor Nick Cordero. 41 year old healthy married with kids white male dead from CV-19! But you right get you medical advice from your plumber who surfs all the nut job conspiracy web sites. Not your Doctor.
Now Pass me a tin foil hat so the Guament can't control my brain. All those bodies in the morgues are fake corpses. Just say Fake News Fake news because some people just can't handle the truth.I think you missed A2's point. Just because he questions govt statements from time to time doesn't make him a conspiracy theorist. I agree with him on many counts, since CDC has been off their game a bit. Problem with his statistics is you can't get 1% sick. You either get sick (and maybe die or get permanent damage), or you don't. I do like the stories of clowns that post On facebook that its a hoax, and then die. Its funny to me, in a sick sort of way.
New Guy Not
07-13-20, 21:53
Why is it always a conspiracy theory? Ffs it's called critical thinking. It's used to solve problems, investigations, make predictions, analyze data, etc. Once some says I believe in conspiracy theories. I think their a complete dumb ass.
Google actor Nick Cordero. 41 year old healthy married with kids white male dead from CV-19! But you right get you medical advice from your plumber who surfs all the nut job conspiracy web sites. Not your Doctor.
Now Pass me a tin foil hat so the Guament can't control my brain. All those bodies in the morgues are fake corpses. Just say Fake News Fake news because some people just can't handle the truth.Some people die if they eat a peanut. There was a 55 year old guy in NYC that was a frequent marathon runner who succumbed to covid and no doubt that was a tragity to his family. The problem with people who post this sort of thing is you are treating it as if it's widespread and common when in fact it is extremely rare for a 41 year old person to die of covid. Then when somebody says "hey, the overall survival rate for covid 19 across all age groups and all medical conditions is 99.74% and that number comes directly from the Center for Disease Controls" somehow they are a conspiracy theorist and taking advice from their plumber.
The chart below is from the CDC, it's shows the distribution of deaths by age for every covid death between Feb 1 and July 4. The arrow points to the line that represents your 41 year old actor example. As you can see, it's extremely rare for somebody in that age group to die, more die in car wrecks, more die from heart attacks, more die from mistakes made by medical professionals while they are in the hospital yet you don't want to do anything about Cars, McDonalds or those truly dangerous hospitals.
So no, I'm not putting on a tinfoil hate and I'm not talking crazy. I'm questioning a narrative that is being expressed by a segment of the media to further a political and commercial agenda which is having devastating effects on the worlds poor.
Why is it always a conspiracy theory? Ffs it's called critical thinking. It's used to solve problems, investigations, make predictions, analyze data, etc. Once some says I believe in conspiracy theories. I think their a complete dumbass.It's called an ad hominum attack. It's a common fallacy and people use it when they can't assail your data or logic, the word ad hominim means against the man, so instead of offering a counter argument they attack you and call you a nut. It's intellectual laziness nothing more.
WinterKnight
07-14-20, 00:24
Some people die if they eat a peanut. There was a 55 year old guy in NYC that was a frequent marathon runner who succumbed to covid and no doubt that was a tragity to his family. The problem with people who post this sort of thing is you are treating it as if it's widespread and common when in fact it is extremely rare for a 41 year old person to die of covid. Then when somebody says "hey, the overall survival rate for covid 19 across all age groups and all medical conditions is 99.74% and that number comes directly from the Center for Disease Controls" somehow they are a conspiracy theorist and taking advice from their plumber.
The chart below is from the CDC, it's shows the distribution of deaths by age for every covid death between Feb 1 and July 4. The arrow points to the line that represents your 41 year old actor example. As you can see, it's extremely rare for somebody in that age group to die, more die in car wrecks, more die from heart attacks, more die from mistakes made by medical professionals while they are in the hospital yet you don't want to do anything about Cars, McDonalds or those truly dangerous hospitals.
So no, I'm not putting on a tinfoil hate and I'm not talking crazy. I'm questioning a narrative that is being expressed by a segment of the media to further a political and commercial agenda which is having devastating effects on the worlds poor.Sweden remained open, expecting to save their economy from the fate you described. Initially they were praised by the.
The WSJ. https://www.wsj.com/articles/do-lockdowns-save-many-lives-is-most-places-the-data-say-no-11587930911 . They aren't doing so good now. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/07/business/sweden-economy-coronavirus.html .
The chart below is from the CDC, it's shows the distribution of deaths by age for every covid death between Feb 1 and July 4. The arrow points to the line that represents your 41 year old actor example. As you can see, it's extremely rare for somebody in that age group to die, more die in car wrecks, more die from heart attacks, more die from mistakes made by medical professionals while they are in the hospital yet you don't want to do anything about Cars, McDonalds or those truly dangerous hospitals.
So no, I'm not putting on a tinfoil hate and I'm not talking crazy. I'm questioning a narrative that is being expressed by a segment of the media to further a political and commercial agenda which is having devastating effects on the worlds poor.While the deaths are indeed tragic, what isn't being said is that those who survive COVID-19 also suffer debilitating side effects like changes to their respiratory system, heart, and blood vessels. It's not like the virus is an all-or-nothing proposition: one way or another, it'll probably fuck you up, and the worst part is immunity after recovery isn't a surefire thing.
I'm not worried about the dying part, but the other stuff, I'm definitely worried.
WinterKnight
07-14-20, 00:37
While the deaths are indeed tragic, what isn't being said is that those who survive COVID-19 also suffer debilitating side effects like changes to their respiratory system, heart, and blood vessels. It's not like the virus is an all-or-nothing proposition: one way or another, it'll probably fuck you up, and the worst part is immunity after recovery isn't a surefire thing.
I'm not worried about the dying part, but the other stuff, I'm definitely worried.Agreed. I spoke with a neighbor who contracted it, along with her husband. Both over fifty. She is an avid runner, or was. Although they both survived, she finds that she gets winded easily, and has yet to feel up to running again. She says her lungs are about half of what they were.
SmoothDriver
07-14-20, 07:28
While the deaths are indeed tragic, what isn't being said is that those who survive COVID-19 also suffer debilitating side effects like changes to their respiratory system, heart, and blood vessels. It's not like the virus is an all-or-nothing proposition: one way or another, it'll probably fuck you up, and the worst part is immunity after recovery isn't a surefire thing.
I'm not worried about the dying part, but the other stuff, I'm definitely worried.Death doesn't happen from the virus most times it's the loss of smell and losing body parts from the virus that know it all are forgetting about. My because. Lost his foot after a so called mild reaction to the virus. So before you flap your mouth how the virus is harmless think about others for once and the horrible side effects many are going through after they had the virus. I know it's all about you but maybe it's time to think of others who have been going through hell with the side effects that a hardly ever reported on your fox aka fake news.
Or you can say the. 26% fatality rate widely used in these postings is really 4. 1% which using simple math is 15 times higher than what is being quoted here.
Per the CDC as of 9:41 am 7/14/2020.
Number of Covid Cases in the United States (updated 7/13/2020) is 3,296,599.
Number of Deaths is 134,884.
Again -- simple math. That is a Death rate for those with Covid of 4. 1% or conversely a survival rate of 95.9%.
So what has been heavily used as a. 26% fatality rate (1 - 99.74% = .26%) for those infected is really 15 times higher than that and is currently at 4. 1%.
May seem like a small change but earlier the number of 400,000 was used and based on the 99.74% or. 26% -- a fatality rate of 1,040 people was estimated.
Now try it at 95.9% or 4. 1% and you get a fatality count of 16,400.
I'm not advocating one position over any other but I do think its helpful to be using accurate data.
Death doesn't happen from the virus most times it's the loss of smell and losing body parts from the virus that know it all are forgetting about. My because. Lost his foot after a so called mild reaction to the virus. So before you flap your mouth how the virus is harmless think about others for once and the horrible side effects many are going through after they had the virus. I know it's all about you but maybe it's time to think of others who have been going through hell with the side effects that a hardly ever reported on your fox aka fake news.For a minute there I thought everyone here were Fox Lienews koolaid drinkers. I know one guy who survived who had his legs amputated but stats show he survived. When a guys tell you quote; I can stand in the middle of Fith Ave. And shoot somebody and I wouldn't lose any voters he is calling his followers koolaid drinking nut jobs like him. Today he is calling Dr. Fauci a lier and smearing and attacking him like he did all the Generals. Its Scary having this imbecile in charge who will not listen to any experts. Its so sad he killing and maiming a lot of people by his incompetence. Republican Govs. Just open up Florida and Arizona early Damm the torpedoes (facts).
Death doesn't happen from the virus most times it's the loss of smell and losing body parts from the virus that know it all are forgetting about. My because. Lost his foot after a so called mild reaction to the virus. So before you flap your mouth how the virus is harmless think about others for once and the horrible side effects many are going through after they had the virus. I know it's all about you but maybe it's time to think of others who have been going through hell with the side effects that a hardly ever reported on your fox aka fake news.Lots of amputees, one previously healthy 41 year old guy I know had both legs amputated. But he is still listed as a survivor in the stats. Don't listen to trump or Fox. Today that imbecile is attacking and smearing DR. Fauci for telling the truth. Just like he did to all the Generals when they told him the truth! It's so sad to have a moron in charge when real leadership is needed. Americans are now banned from entering several countries. They smart.
Hap Hunter
07-14-20, 22:18
We should all get our Medical advice from guys who spend their spare time online trying to have sex with Drug addicted females who have multiple partners per day. The hell with the Doctors get your Medical advice from that guy. LOL.That is a great line. Take advice from a Monger who hits up women for random sex. Classic!
Good points all around on the Covid topic. Guess I'll stick to the conservative side of the block, while I sneak across to Monger. LOL!
Besides good reports with links, MotorCity Mayhem is a great thread.
Stay safe out there!
Lots of amputees, one previously healthy 41 year old guy I know had both legs amputated. But he is still listed as a survivor in the stats. Don't listen to trump or Fox. Today that imbecile is attacking and smearing DR. Fauci for telling the truth. Just like he did to all the Generals when they told him the truth! It's so sad to have a moron in charge when real leadership is needed. Americans are now banned from entering several countries. They smart.I believe Dr Fauci is in bed with bill gates. If so go see what gates did in Africa. Wasn't so good from what I hear. Anyway Dr Fauci is in bed also with the W. H. O. And that health org is in bed with China. Maybe it's a conspiracy but my opinion is Fauci could have given the Chinese the pathway to this virus to attack trump to become the world superpower. This so goes in line with the far left that want to make the rich richer and abolish the middle class and make us all poor. Just my 2 cents.
I believe Dr Fauci is in bed with bill gates. If so go see what gates did in Africa. Wasn't so good from what I hear. Anyway Dr Fauci is in bed also with the W. H. O. And that health org is in bed with China. Maybe it's a conspiracy but my opinion is Fauci could have given the Chinese the pathway to this virus to attack trump to become the world superpower. This so goes in line with the far left that want to make the rich richer and abolish the middle class and make us all poor. Just my 2 cents.He's a 79 year old bureaucrat who hasn't seen a patient in 30 years. When research on improved function of viruses became illegal, he routed money to Chinese labs. Worst of all, the man wants a legacy as the guy who saved the country.
I believe Dr Fauci is in bed with bill gates. If so go see what gates did in Africa. Wasn't so good from what I hear. Anyway Dr Fauci is in bed also with the W. H. O. And that health org is in bed with China. Maybe it's a conspiracy but my opinion is Fauci could have given the Chinese the pathway to this virus to attack trump to become the world superpower. This so goes in line with the far left that want to make the rich richer and abolish the middle class and make us all poor. Just my 2 cents.1) Um. The left wants to raise taxes on the upper one percent and also slap them with a net worth tax. How would that make the rich richer?
2). There is no bed. China had a far greater chance of becoming the worlds superpower without the virus than they do now.
3). If you want to be a professional conspiracy theorist, at least make sense.
New Guy Not
07-15-20, 21:06
1) Um. The left wants to raise taxes on the upper one percent and also slap them with a net worth tax. How would that make the rich richer?
2). There is no bed. China had a far greater chance of becoming the worlds superpower without the virus than they do now.
3). If you want to be a professional conspiracy theorist, at least make sense.Big money comes by and buys up all the mom and pop shops. I seen it happen in 2006-2009. And its happening again.
Fauci is deep state maybe not with China.
China can't do shit without our economy.
He's a 79 year old bureaucrat who hasn't seen a patient in 30 years. When research on improved function of viruses became illegal, he routed money to Chinese labs. Worst of all, the man wants a legacy as the guy who saved the country.You down played Dr. Fauci so Now give us your Medical credentials? And what is your education Level?
I hear crickets. I thought so. LOL.
Or you can say the. 26% fatality rate widely used in these postings is really 4. 1% which using simple math is 15 times higher than what is being quoted here.
Per the CDC as of 9:41 am 7/14/2020.
Number of Covid Cases in the United States (updated 7/13/2020) is 3,296,599.
Number of Deaths is 134,884.
Again -- simple math. That is a Death rate for those with Covid of 4. 1% or conversely a survival rate of 95.9%.
So what has been heavily used as a. 26% fatality rate (1 - 99.74% = .26%) for those infected is really 15 times higher than that and is currently at 4. 1%.
May seem like a small change but earlier the number of 400,000 was used and based on the 99.74% or. 26% -- a fatality rate of 1,040 people was estimated.
Now try it at 95.9% or 4. 1% and you get a fatality count of 16,400.
I'm not advocating one position over any other but I do think its helpful to be using accurate data.YEA how many SURVIVED WITH NO LEGS or other life long illneses You being very dishonest by leaving that part out. You being very slick and not honest at all. Therefore your numbers are just a lot of B. S. You can always make numbers say what ever you want based on your agenda. They teach you that in college in Stats class 101. You just leave other pertinent facts out.
WinterKnight
07-15-20, 23:59
It's called an ad hominum attack. It's a common fallacy and people use it when they can't assail your data or logic, the word ad hominim means against the man, so instead of offering a counter argument they attack you and call you a nut. It's intellectual laziness nothing more.At last, one forum member who understands logic. Bless you, sir.
There are several more common fallacies to conspiracy theories, such as Anecdotal Evidence and Burden of Proof. Here is just one article on the subject: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/thoughts-thinking/201708/18-common-logical-fallacies-and-persuasion-techniques.
WinterKnight
07-16-20, 00:22
He's a 79 year old bureaucrat who hasn't seen a patient in 30 years. When research on improved function of viruses became illegal, he routed money to Chinese labs. Worst of all, the man wants a legacy as the guy who saved the country.How does Dr. Fauci's work as director of the NIAID for 30+ years somehow get diminished by not continuing a practice? You think he should be doing both?
What is your source for stating Fauci directed funds to the labs in China (the Wuhan Institute of Virology, perhaps)? The New York Post? I found this fact check article debunking that claim:
https://www.nbcmiami.com/news/national-international/fact-check-trump-spreads-distorted-claim-on-wuhan-lab-funding/5126987/
How do you know what legacy Fauci wants?
DownRiverRat
07-16-20, 10:23
Arguing over A Virus & giving medical advice on A Hooker Review site. LMAO you have Sex with Drug Addicted ******.
YEA how many SURVIVED WITH NO LEGS or other life long illneses You being very dishonest by leaving that part out. You being very slick and not honest at all. Therefore your numbers are just a lot of B. S. You can always make numbers say what ever you want based on your agenda. They teach you that in college in Stats class 101. You just leave other pertinent facts out.Sorry you missed the intended clarity of my post. It was to correct a GROSS UNDERSTATEMENT of the number of FATALITIES associated with Covid. Many Many of the previous posts downplayed the relative lethality of the virus. When you look at the actual numbers the FATALITY rate was 15 TIMES HIGHER THAN WHAT WAS BEING USED AS A "STAT".
I still stand by the accuracy and import of my "STATS". From my point of view, too many of these posts try to address 100% of the issues with some broad statements and interpretations. Mine was intentionally very limited and intentionally correcting what I saw as a significant error being spoken so much that it had turned into "FACT".
Finally -- your portrayal of me as being "very dishonest", "slick" and presenting "numbers. Just a lot of B. S. " is without foundation.
OF COURSE -- there are many many secondary and tertiary effects of this deadly virus. Post infection impacts to patients, negative impacts to the economy, the education of our children, the disparate impact among different racial and economic classes and the stress the virus puts on our limited healthcare resources are JUST A FEW of those impacted.
Again -- I think its very important to describe any problem with accurate data. Sorry you missed that point. Stay well!
How does Dr. Fauci's work as director of the NIAID for 30+ years somehow get diminished by not continuing a practice? You think he should be doing both?
What is your source for stating Fauci directed funds to the labs in China (the Wuhan Institute of Virology, perhaps)? The New York Post? I found this fact check article debunking that claim:
https://www.nbcmiami.com/news/national-international/fact-check-trump-spreads-distorted-claim-on-wuhan-lab-funding/5126987/
How do you know what legacy Fauci wants?Risky "gain of function " studies were outsourced by Fauci when he controlled grant money. They had become illegal.
https://www.newsweek.com/dr-fauci-backed-controversial-wuhan-lab-millions-us-dollars-risky-coronavirus-research-1500741
https://asiatimes.com/2020/04/why-us-outsourced-bat-virus-research-to-wuhan/
https://www.nih.gov/about-nih/who-we-are/nih-director/statements/nih-lifts-funding-pause-gain-function-research
https://www.newsweek.com/dr-fauci-backed-controversial-wuhan-lab-millions-us-dollars-risky-coronavirus-research-1500741
I point out his lack of patient involvement to 1. Show he's a bureaucrat 2. Why he was wrong about Plaquenil
His legacy drive is just an opinion. Being that he's a short statured bureaucrat, it makes sense to me.
RayLatoole
07-16-20, 12:42
Arguing over A Virus & giving medical advice on A Hooker Review site. LMAO you have Sex with Drug Addicted ******.LOL. I'm with you!
WinterKnight
07-16-20, 17:17
You down played Dr. Fauci so Now give us your Medical credentials? And what is your education Level?
I hear crickets. I thought so. LOL.I think you're going to be surprised to learn the high level of education and professional experience some forum members have. Those crickets are telling you to go back and research more thoroughly.
WinterKnight
07-16-20, 17:20
Arguing over A Virus & giving medical advice on A Hooker Review site. LMAO you have Sex with Drug Addicted ******.This is the fight thread, so (almost) anything goes. And the Coronavirus topic IS cogent to this forum since members are risking infection far more intractable than an ordinary STI.
EastsideYoung
07-16-20, 17:22
LOL. I'm with you!We stick our dicks in dirty street pussy, these mfers want to act like they're concerned about a virus LOL.
WinterKnight
07-16-20, 17:25
Risky "gain of function " studies were outsourced by Fauci when he controlled grant money. They had become illegal.
https://www.newsweek.com/dr-fauci-backed-controversial-wuhan-lab-millions-us-dollars-risky-coronavirus-research-1500741
https://asiatimes.com/2020/04/why-us-outsourced-bat-virus-research-to-wuhan/
https://www.nih.gov/about-nih/who-we-are/nih-director/statements/nih-lifts-funding-pause-gain-function-research
https://www.newsweek.com/dr-fauci-backed-controversial-wuhan-lab-millions-us-dollars-risky-coronavirus-research-1500741
I point out his lack of patient involvement to 1. Show he's a bureaucrat 2. Why he was wrong about Plaquenil
His legacy drive is just an opinion. Being that he's a short statured bureaucrat, it makes sense to me.Fair enough. Robert Heinlein wrote, "Never insult a short man; he'll kill you. ".
Thanks for the pile of reading.
We stick our dicks in dirty street pussy, these mfers want to act like they're concerned about a virus LOL.Many of us have stuck our tongues into plenty of crackwhores mouths and pussies.
I did worry about the heroin injectors myself. HIV is harder to get, but still stays with you for life and is a fatal disease almost always.
I wonder why we (including me) worry more about Covid than HIV or Hepatitis.
Its just funny when you think about it.
EastsideYoung
07-16-20, 21:26
Many of us have stuck our tongues into plenty of crackwhores mouths and pussies.
I did worry about the heroin injectors myself. HIV is harder to get, but still stays with you for life and is a fatal disease almost always.
I wonder why we (including me) worry more about Covid than HIV or Hepatitis.
Its just funny when you think about it.I worry about HIV and herpes more than anything. Heps not really a big thing, been there done that and it's gone now. I do sometimes worry though because idk how you handle hep if you get it a second time.
SmoothDriver
07-16-20, 21:43
We stick our dicks in dirty street pussy, these mfers want to act like they're concerned about a virus LOL.You must be a republican with that stupid analogy.
I think you're going to be surprised to learn the high level of education and professional experience some forum members have. Those crickets are telling you to go back and research more thoroughly.Brother I have a bridge to sell you if you believe that. Actually 2 on the Moon. Maybe he forgot what site he is on. I am LMAO.
EastsideYoung
07-17-20, 22:27
You must be a republican with that stupid analogy.You really going to try and tell me your more worried about some bs virus and not gettin in some dirty ass street pussy?
WinterKnight
07-17-20, 23:33
Brother I have a bridge to sell you if you believe that. Actually 2 on the Moon. Maybe he forgot what site he is on. I am LMAO.You don't believe a single member on this forum has done any post-graduate work? Or has any knowledge whatsoever about medical field or the insurance industry?
You down played Dr. Fauci so Now give us your Medical credentials? And what is your education Level?
I hear crickets. I thought so. LOL.Speak for yourself. I graduated Sum Cum Laude.
WinterKnight
07-18-20, 08:09
You really going to try and tell me your more worried about some bs virus and not gettin in some dirty ass street pussy?Thank you SO much for clarifying succinctly that Covid-19 is not a concern, especially when weighed against the dangers of "dirty ass street pussy". You have saved us all much worry and bother with one stinging indictment of the entire healthcare industry. Surely you are a Nobel Peace Prize candidate? Your own qualifications and accomplishments in the fields of virology and epidemiology must truly be impressive. Please do invite us to your next symposium lecture.
I think you're going to be surprised to learn the high level of education and professional experience some forum members have. Those crickets are telling you to go back and research more thoroughly.
This is the fight thread, so (almost) anything goes. And the Coronavirus topic IS cogent to this forum since members are risking infection far more intractable than an ordinary STI.
Fair enough. Robert Heinlein wrote, "Never insult a short man; he'll kill you. ".
Thanks for the pile of reading.
You don't believe a single member on this forum has done any post-graduate work? Or has any knowledge whatsoever about medical field or the insurance industry?
Thank you SO much for clarifying succinctly that Covid-19 is not a concern, especially when weighed against the dangers of "dirty ass street pussy". You have saved us all much worry and bother with one stinging indictment of the entire healthcare industry. Surely you are a Nobel Peace Prize candidate? Your own qualifications and accomplishments in the fields of virology and epidemiology must truly be impressive. Please do invite us to your next symposium lecture.The only thing you're demonstrating is your ability to attack people's character without offering anything of substance. I can tell from your writing that you're a smart and well educated guy so here's a question for you. When do people use fallacious arguments?
As to the intractability of corona it has a proven (The CDC released it over six weeks ago, I don't have a medical degree but I can read a graph, data is my thing) . 26% IFR. (Infection Fatality Rate) Before you cite the now popular "LTE's" (Long Term Effects) this hasn't been around long enough to have any proven long term effects and assuming the worst possible scenario is part of the narrative being offered by certain news agencies. Of course some people will suffer some sort of long term issues just as there have been some tragic outliers with children who died (13 worldwide last I knew) however with 7,800,000,000 people on the planet sooner or later every possibility will manifest.
I have no doubt you will have some witty repartee, it will be scathing, possibly humorous but what it will not have is fact.
Speak for yourself. I graduated Sum Cum Laude.Veni vidi vici.
Kudos for spelling 'cum' correctly. Two out of three isn't bad for a Phoenix grad.
Veni vidi vici.
Kudos for spelling 'cum' correctly. Two out of three isn't bad for a Phoenix grad.Apparently trump was only Maga Cum Laude, after paying someone to take his SATs, and he's apparently an expert on both medicine and pussy. I wonder if he's a member of this forum.
WinterKnight
07-19-20, 20:10
Speak for yourself. I graduated Sum Cum Laude.LOL! You so funny.
You do know it's "summa cum laude", right?
Jeeze, you really aren't very bright.
Sum Cum Laude = Some Cum Loud it's a joke.
You're welcome
A2
WinterKnight
07-19-20, 23:25
LOL! You so funny.
You do know it's "summa cum laude", right?
Jeeze, you really aren't very bright.
Sum Cum Laude = Some Cum Loud it's a joke.
You're welcome
A2Yes, I know it's a joke. Thank you for checking.
LOL! You so funny.
You do know it's "summa cum laude", right?
Jeeze, you really aren't very bright.
Sum Cum Laude = Some Cum Loud it's a joke.
You're welcome
A2Thank you A2. He must be related to the Chinese guy Sum Dum Fuk.
WinterKnight
07-20-20, 12:35
Thank you A2. He must be related to the Chinese guy Sum Dum Fuk.Well, this devolved quickly from "let's argue facts" to "let's call names. ".
What does arguing with people about masks and the whether on not Covid is real have to do with administering a sex discussion forum? With all due respect, isn't this way outside your swim lane?
Well, this devolved quickly from "let's argue facts" to "let's call namesNow lookie here Sum Dum. You did say this is the fight thread.
WinterKnight
07-20-20, 22:28
Now lookie here Sum Dum. You did say this is the fight thread.I did say that, and it is. I did not resort to name-calling.
WinterKnight
07-20-20, 23:41
[QUOTE=Admin2;4885045]The only thing you're demonstrating is your ability to attack people's character without offering anything of substance. I can tell from your writing that you're a smart and well educated guy so here's a question for you. When do people use fallacious arguments?
As to the intractability of corona it has a proven (The CDC released it over six weeks ago, I don't have a medical degree but I can read a graph, data is my thing) . 26% IFR. (Infection Fatality Rate) Before you cite the now popular "LTE's" (Long Term Effects) this hasn't been around long enough to have any proven long term effects and assuming the worst possible scenario is part of the narrative being offered by certain news agencies. Of course some people will suffer some sort of long term issues just as there have been some tragic outliers with children who died (13 worldwide last I knew) however with 7,800,000,000 people on the planet sooner or later every possibility will manifest.
I have no doubt you will have some witty repartee, it will be scathing, possibly humorous but what it will not have is fact. [QUOTE=Admin2;4885045]The only thing you're demonstrating is your ability to attack people's character without offering anything of substance. I can tell from your writing that you're a smart and well educated guy so here's a question for you. When do people use fallacious arguments?
As to the intractability of corona it has a proven (The CDC released it over six weeks ago, I don't have a medical degree but I can read a graph, data is my thing) . 26% IFR. (Infection Fatality Rate) Before you cite the now popular "LTE's" (Long Term Effects) this hasn't been around long enough to have any proven long term effects and assuming the worst possible scenario is part of the narrative being offered by certain news agencies. Of course some people will suffer some sort of long term issues just as there have been some tragic outliers with children who died (13 worldwide last I knew) however with 7,800,000,000 people on the planet sooner or later every possibility will manifest.
I have no doubt you will have some witty repartee, it will be scathing, possibly humorous but what it will not have is No, no humor or repartee here. I have given up arguing facts here and elsewhere because it's been shown that no one changes their position based on what's said online. The facts are that there are now over 140,000 fatalities attributed to Covid-19 in the USA, and about 3. 8 million cases, with no sign of slowing down. Those members who are good with that, or who deny the statistics are accurate, are not going to be persuaded otherwise by any argument or facts presented here.
Attached is a link to a NYT story on the difficulty of determine how deadly is this disease:
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/04/health/coronavirus-death-rate.html
After reading this thread for several days it is very obvious no one here is a CV-19 disease control EXPERT. I see a lot of BIASED opinions here that are not based on the realities on the ground. So can't we all just get along and go back to concentrating on getting our dicks sucked without going broke. Its been fun. LOL.
WinterKnight
07-22-20, 23:49
After reading this thread for several days it is very obvious no one here is a CV-19 disease control EXPERT. I see a lot of BIASED opinions here that are not based on the realities on the ground. So can't we all just get along and go back to concentrating on getting our dicks sucked without going broke. Its been fun. LOL.Yes. Agreed.
New Guy Not
08-02-20, 05:54
First off, I posted a girl in need of some extra cash. Give semi specific information and requests. Pass out her number to plenty of you guys. Then to hear back from the girl about the amount of time a lot of guys waste of my recommendation.
FFS I have wasted my time responding and passing out numbers. Seriously what a fucken waste of my time. People who have met her and thank me thru DMS, thank you. But those fucking morons who ask 1000000 dumb ass questions, can suck a dick.
I mean WTF, I don't get it. She fucks, she's hot, she's sweet and I fkn recommended her. I can see why a lot of people here struggle to find dates. The 1000 questions that lead to "are you single" is nothing but a turn off to girls who are P2 P. It seems that MOST of you guys seriously need to get to the point. You wana get to know these girls, spend the money.
This is my technique on SA.
Filter search to:
FWB.
No strings attached.
Will travel to you.
As you gain experience in searchs you can change up search criteria.
3 questions.
1. Hello.
2. Are you PTM.
3. Do you have cashapp.
If yes I block them.
If they don't know acronyms its an indication they are new. So you tell them what it means. Then ask if they are P2 P. If they say no block them. You save so much time and filter out what you're not searching.
Once you get a number reverse search it. Be semi skeptical if its a text app, but its not a deal breaker. Most girls I've meet off SA, pass out there real numbers. If they are expensive I move on, they ALWAYS text back dropping the price. Might not be in a day or week but it always happens. If the price is reasonable I will meet. Most girls I met aren't clock watchers. Get to know them on dates, be a gentleman. Once they know your steady Eddie and a pleasant time the prices almost drop in half. Dumb five dollar gifts go a long way. Like a flower or buy something they talk about or need.
You have to know that on SA these girls get 50-100 messages a day! Nobody has that kinda time to answer them all. They pick who they date, know this and its major YMMV. I do not message more than once, if you do don't, its screams desperate and they will never answer. Yes sometimes it takes over a month to get a response. Its work but well worth it. I know Macomb county can be dry ASF. Thru SA I've meet 3 hotties within 5 miles of my home. 2 more near Farmington. Its better than dealing with high volume adds, drug addicts, pimps, and LE.
SA is not a quick at all. It's not List crawler. It requires work, know this. So you dumbasses who wasted my recommendation on dumb ass texts after the work I put in to get her number and pass it on need to rethink your game. Its fkn pathetic.
HungaryMan
08-02-20, 15:16
First off, I posted a girl in need of some extra cash. Give semi specific information and requests. Pass out her number to plenty of you guys. Then to hear back from the girl about the amount of time a lot of guys waste of my recommendation.
FFS I have wasted my time responding and passing out numbers. Seriously what a fucken waste of my time. People who have met her and thank me thru DMS, thank you. But those fucking morons who ask 1000000 dumb ass questions, can suck a dick.
I mean WTF, I don't get it. She fucks, she's hot, she's sweet and I fkn recommended her. I can see why a lot of people here struggle to find dates. The 1000 questions that lead to "are you single" is nothing but a turn off to girls who are P2 P. It seems that MOST of you guys seriously need to get to the point. You wana get to know these girls, spend the money.
I appreciate your dismay for all the guys wasting the time of not only you but the girl as well. I am interested in her info and all I can say to you is feel free to respond or not and at your speed. Thanks and stay safe out there.
P.S. I think your inbox may be full.
In Her Ass
08-15-20, 14:47
What does arguing with people about masks and the whether on not Covid is real have to do with administering a sex discussion forum? With all due respect, isn't this way outside your swim lane?A2 makes good money off this site from selling banner ads. When activity is slow it makes it harder for him to sell ads or sell them at a higher rate. Since Covid 19 started the site has had less traffic because a lot of men stopped buying pussy and stopped posting about pussy. So he is trying to give people the false impression that it's safe to see hookers by beating his "it's safe to see hookers and post about it drum" over and over again in a lot of cities. He even is using two of my old accounts (Road Head and PieBoy) that he stole from me to pat himself on the back by replying to himself.
A2 you have really hit a new fucking low, but it's your ball and it's your backyard so you hold all the cards. All I can say is karma is a real motherfucker (might be one of the reasons your BackPage wannabe site took a shit), you will get yours in the end my friend.
A2 makes good money off this site from selling banner ads. When activity is slow it makes it harder for him to sell ads or sell them at a higher rate. Since Covid 19 started the site has had less traffic because a lot of men stopped buying pussy and stopped posting about pussy. So he is trying to give people the false impression that it's safe to see hookers by beating his "it's safe to see hookers and post about it drum" over and over again in a lot of cities. He even is using two of my old accounts (Road Head and PieBoy) that he stole from me to pat himself on the back by replying to himself.
A2 you have really hit a new fucking low, but it's your ball and it's your backyard so you hold all the cards. All I can say is karma is a real motherfucker (might be one of the reasons your BackPage wannabe site took a shit), you will get yours in the end my friend.Traffic was a little down in March but since then it's even or better than 2019 and way above 2018. Revenue on the other hand is way up since so many other sites have been shut down. You can see the traffic stats here.
https://statcounter.com/p2146388/summary/weekly-pur-labels-bar-2018W26_2020W31/
As for the "backpage wannabe site that took a shit" we had a server problem and have decided to wait until post covid to relaunch with a new host. The host we were using managed to burn up two servers in 18 months so we are going to change hosts.
As to the rest, do what you want. I banned this user because as you said you have several others (sure sign of a troll) so I'll take my karma, I'm not sure what you did that was so terrible that gave you this life but you do have my pity.
A2.
A2 makes good money off this site from selling banner ads. When activity is slow it makes it harder for him to sell ads or sell them at a higher rate. Since Covid 19 started the site has had less traffic because a lot of men stopped buying pussy and stopped posting about pussy. So he is trying to give people the false impression that it's safe to see hookers by beating his "it's safe to see hookers and post about it drum" over and over again in a lot of cities. He even is using two of my old accounts (Road Head and PieBoy) that he stole from me to pat himself on the back by replying to himself.
A2 you have really hit a new fucking low, but it's your ball and it's your backyard so you hold all the cards. All I can say is karma is a real motherfucker (might be one of the reasons your BackPage wannabe site took a shit), you will get yours in the end my friend.Wait? WTF? How did I get dragged into this? I'm not A2 and I'm not whoever you are. I don't usually agree with A2, but how is this your account? Why would A2 steal your account?
Concupiscent69
09-28-20, 06:23
Read below. He cited.I saw it after I replied. Unfortunately, I am unable to go back and delete or edit my posts / replies.
SomeDetroitGuy
09-28-20, 10:13
That law is for pimps not the johns.It doesn't matter who that law "is for", they can absolutely charge you and convict you with it.
It doesn't matter who that law "is for", they can absolutely charge you and convict you with it.Bullshit. There is a high burden of proof to establish. They have to prove intent, coercion. They aren't getting there with a simple "known" prostitute being in your car. I know dealers and pimps that regularly drive girls to their dates and are never hit with that when they are pulled over. At worse you get hit with a possession charge if they ditch shit in your car and won't claim it.
Bullshit. There is a high burden of proof to establish. They have to prove intent, coercion. They aren't getting there with a simple "known" prostitute being in your car. I know dealers and pimps that regularly drive girls to their dates and are never hit with that when they are pulled over. At worse you get hit with a possession charge if they ditch shit in your car and won't claim it.You can't show that in the statute.
I'm not saying it's commonly brought to Court but it does give LE a lot of leverage on you. Losing your car might seem a small problem. Got any prior convictions? Is it an election year? You could get convicted, not do much time but lose your 2 A Rights. Going by history might not be smart.
Times are changing. Just ten years ago, who heard of trafficking?
Hey, it's just a risk that can be avoided. Using Uber has to be done with no trail back to you. Decide for yourself.
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