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HookerLover
05-08-16, 10:04
Yeah, you should see the private messages he is sending me. This guy is an asshole. You say she robbed you, fine, then she robbed you. You put her on blast. But to keep putting it up, and to text her every day? You texted her yesterday and called me out in it. WTF man? Leave this chick alone. Shit, maybe she did rob you seeing the way your * ass is being now. You are a stalker, plain and simple. And hurt here business?? Everyone is now calling her because of what you said. You sir are a loser.
Cocaine, you don't know the situation. Darknight has been showing multiple girls this website and another website that he was just kicked off of. He was showing them reviews of them and then they pieced together who these people were. He's trash. This isn't about a girl. This is about him ratting on other mongers to try to get in good with these girls.You're describing yourself to a tea!
You've changed your story 3 times now with PM's to me!
We got you figured out & your Credibility is Zero!
HookerLover
05-08-16, 18:47
You're describing yourself to a tea!
You've changed your story 3 times now with PM's to me!
We got you figured out & your Credibility is Zero!I want my credibility to be zero with you. That is fine. Like I said, just stop harassing the girl. Chalk it up to a loss, and now maybe you a smarter about things. But it doesn't look like you will learn anything, cause you can't let it go. I'm done with you.
Yeah, you should see the private messages he is sending me. This guy is an asshole. You say she robbed you, fine, then she robbed you. You put her on blast. But to keep putting it up, and to text her every day? You texted her yesterday and called me out in it. WTF man? Leave this chick alone. Shit, maybe she did rob you seeing the way your * ass is being now. You are a stalker, plain and simple. And hurt here business?? Everyone is now calling her because of what you said. You sir are a loser.Wow, you truly are your own worse enemy.
Threatening to release my name and number, to changing your story multiple times.
You sell the members out here with any freebee or discount that you can get!
You Sir are a POS!
I have all his PM's, anyone wants to see let me know!
Mystery Date
05-09-16, 09:23
I have all his PM's, anyone wants to see let me know!Dude, go douche your vagina, I'm starting to feel embarrassed for you.
I'm starting to feel embarrassed for you.Wow, that really breaks my Heart.
No need to get your Labia out of whack!
HookerLover
05-09-16, 22:30
Glad to see you have a sense of humor. Too bad you are the biggest idiot this site has. You should flag 90% of the review sections, because there are almost no reviews being put. Just stalkers saying stupid shit, or people asking questions. Don't get your panties in a bunch and let people have fun. Man you are a baby. Lmao.
I'm an asshole not an idiot, you my friend, there is a new level of stupidity. You wouldn't cut it as a prison guard in the world of Idiocracy.
I'll wait while you look that up................
Yeah, that stupid. I get paid to do this, you troll this forum because it's the only meaning you have in the pathetic thing you call your life.
Have a nice week, you might want to quit while you're only this far behind, it's not going to get any better.
A2
Mystery Date
05-09-16, 23:04
Wow, that really breaks my Heart.
No need to get your Labia out of whack!That was maybe a half-step past "I am rubber, you are glue. ".
Apparently, you are capable of counting to potato, so there's that to be proud of, I guess.
I don't even know why you responded if you never seen her!
Assuming that you can read and comprehend and that you don't have adhd, you will realize at some point that even if you post every expreience authentically, you won't be treated as you treat on this fourm. When you request info about a hot girl who's been posting for a long time and you get no response, then you recognize that some people don't want to share.
The mindset on this page is to keep the good girl to yourself! Although if anyone in the hoppy with this mindset think a little bet, he would recognized that escort girls better their service when they feel that their carrer is rewarding. Peace out.Dang Mikeeeeeeee! You should just go see that chick to get a nut off. Maybe then you won't be so angry and sensitive about shit. Just remember, when she pops her top and you see a couple flapjack titties, I tried to warn you. You don't have to see a chick to be able to contribute an observation about her that another guy might have missed. You're terrible grammar and misuse of words led me to believe you weren't playing with a full deck so I figured I'd give you my perception of her titties based on the pics. Your response confirms my suspicions about you. Thanks for the entertainment!
That was maybe a half-step past "I am rubber, you are glue. ".
Apparently, you are capable of counting to potato, so there's that to be proud of, I guess.Did you just use the potato line? LMFAO!
Do you feel better now?
HookerLover
06-23-16, 14:28
So I went to the cricket got a girl put her number in my phone dident get any extras I'm a broke college student I let her know this. But only time we talk was at the club I told her I rarely hang out at clubs because of money. So she texted me her address and invited me over for some beer and pizza. Idk what to make of this any advice.You wrote almost the same thing on 4-20-16. So this can't be the first time. LOL and if you are in college and don't know what to do when a girl invites you over, you need more help than this board.
He was the first guy to share info with or be nice to me on this site. I wish he would stop in just to say hi.
He was the first guy to share info with or be nice to me on this site. I wish he would stop in just to say hi.I'm still around man. Hope all is well with you guys on here. I still look at and read the site occasionally. Just don't really have any interest in posting anymore. Saw you put this up here so I made a new account to respond. Hope things are going well for you in the Hobby. And to everyone else. I hope your all getting lots of pussy.
I am also glad to know you're still out there MDL. You were also one of, or possibly the first guy on here to share with and help me out when I got on. A true monger's monger. It was always appreciated. I miss the old days. Hope you're doing well man.
JD.
I'm still around man. Hope all is well with you guys on here. I still look at and read the site occasionally. Just don't really have any interest in posting anymore. Saw you put this up here so I made a new account to respond. Hope things are going well for you in the Hobby. And to everyone else. I hope your all getting lots of pussy.
MightyMonger
07-15-16, 18:39
I advise against it. Poor experience. Your have been warned.There are several positive reviews on her obviously you just have an axe to grind with her.
DetroitWill
07-18-16, 05:53
There are several positive reviews on her obviously you just have an axe to grind with her.No axe. Not good looking period. A 6 at most. No kissing, daty, doggie and no real effort. So no axe, just my truth from a senior member who has been around a long time.
Just a heads up. For those that don't already know, "Tom31" is a complete douchebag loser and is not to be trusted. If he cares to challenge this statement here in the open forum, I will share his I'm's with everyone.
That is all.
JD.
Hey All!
So I am new to this site, however not so new to the hobby. I use to be a regular contributor to the old Scorps Guide board when it was around, however I since it's demise I went rogue and didn't use any boards, however I am seeing the need for one again, and found your guys. Below are a few reviews of ladies I have met with in the past 3 or so months. I post this as a piece offering.
Provider Name: Cami.
Website: http://www.mydiamondladies.com.
Stats: 5'3 34 B.
General Details:
Have used the agency she works with many times, always had a great experience! Cami is no different! Arrived at her InCall location, clean as always! Was greeted at the door with a hug and kiss, and off to the private room we go. Cami is very sweet, and super cute, pictures do her no justice! I will repeat!
Review:
Once we were in the room, we stripped down to our undies and climbed on the bed to chat and get to know each other. That didn't take long. I climbed on the bed and Cami quickly began to kiss me and stroke my cock through my undies, I got the feeling she needed to be fucked right now! While kissing and taking each others undies off she was stroking my cock as I said something about slow down tiger lets have some fun. She then said, I need you to fuck me with that big cock. It seems she hadn't been fucked in 3 days and was extremely horny. So I laid her down on the bed, and entered her very tight pussy, she wasn't telling a lie she was wet and tight! I banged her missionary for about 10 minutes until she said, ok, I need to suck that cock. Who am I to tell a pretty lady who wants to suck me no. I laid down and she took my deep while stroking me with a great BBBJ. She sucked for about 10 minutes until I stopped her to bend her over and fuck her doggy. She was still wet and told me to fuck her hard, I laid it into her for another 10 minutes right until I was ready to blow, and I took the cover off and blew my load all over her ass. Cami is a sweetie however when she hasn't been fucked in a few days she turns into an awesome sex craved animal. I will see her again for sure!
Provider Name: Casey.
Website: http://www.mydiamondladies.com.
Stats: 5'10 36 C.
General Details:
Casey is my ATF Diamond Girl! When you call you talk to a super nice lady that will see who is available and then put you through the their screening process. Have your information ready and make sure your references know you are using them because they will get a call. Typical 2 - 3 call system, call to setup, call when close, call to get room. It is a clean private residence, Casey answers the door, hug / kiss hello, quick stop at the men's room, and off to the bed room we go.
The pictures on the site do her no justice.
Non VIPs- Schedule time with her, she is amazing!
VIPs read on!
Review:
We get in the room and as I am closing the door she is already naked, what a great body, I mean perfect! She asks if I am just going to stand there or am I going to join her. Naked in 1. 2 seconds I am. We got on the bed started chatting and then we moved closer and closer, until she was right in front of me and we just started kissing like high schoolers. Her body is amazing, soft and responsive, her tits are real and then are amazing! I start kissing her neck, ear and make my way to her tits, she loves to have them played with and sucked. As I am arousing her amazing tits she reaches down and find my cock already rock hard and begins to stroke it and play with the tip. She knows how to handle a cock. As I continue to grow she gets my attention from her tits and we start kissing again And asks if it was her turn. Who am I to turn down a beautiful blonde that wants to suck my cock and down she goes. Light hands, mostly mouth and hands were playing with my the boys below. Best BBBJ I have ever had, had to stop her after about 10 Minutes. She then asks what position I like, I asked what she likes and she said with this size as she is holding my cock I want to ride you. Again who am I to turn her down. She grabs the cover takes a seat, well not all the way down at first. She started off taking about half or so and then asked me to roll her over into mission, when're after a few strokes I was able to get all the way in. She is tight guys and amazing. A while of this and she wanted to be back on top, we roll again and I was in for the best experience of my life. She loves to be on top, with the right guy and apparently I fit the bill. I think she came at least 6 times over the next 10 - 15 minutes. Made that was awesome. Eventually she laid next to me, took the cover off, and gave me an amazing BBBJCIM I have ever had.
I have seen her 4 times each session is different but the basics are the same. Casey my #1 ATF.
Provider Name: Adrianna.
Website: http://www.mydiamondladies.com.
Stats: 5'3 36 C.
General Details:
3 Call System, with a references check. Arrived at the incall location, and was told when you go up and where to go. Knocked on the door, it opens the the hottie in the pictures opens the door and welcomes me with a hug and kiss. Stop by the mens room to freshen up, then in to the bedroom. Clean and welcoming location. Adriana is amazing, VIP's read on. NON VIPS, don't see her, then I will have her all to myself!! .
Review:
Door to the bed room closes, and we chit chat for awhile and catch up. As we chat we are getting closer and closer and getting naked as we talk and kiss, then DFK. Then the heat starts as I remove her clothing, she is grabbing my cock and dropping my jeans. Great tits, great body, I forgot how hot she is. She drops down to my rock hard cock and begins another one of her best BBBJs. She continues with plenty of eye contact, and attention to both my cock and the boys and she looks up and says," Will you fuck me now?" She comes up and we start kissing as she sits down on my rock hard cock, and she beings to ride me. Multiple positions later, it is time for a release. I ask where she wants it, she repsond's with, anywhere. I ask her for a BBBJCIM, 5 minutes later she is taking it like a champ.
Provider Name: Shawna.
Website: http://www.mydiamondladies.com.
Stats: 5'4 34 C.
General Details:
Shawna is one of the excellent Diamond Ladies. 3 Call system, references provided and I am off to meet this wonderful lady. Arrive at the location, and she opens the door with a smile and a hug. A stop by the mens room, and then off to the bedroom. She is the lady in the pics, and I have seen her a few times now. VIPS read on, NON VIPs, don't bother, she is mine! .
Review:
I get in the door, and she jumps me. We starting kissing like high schoolers, grabbing and pulling at my pants, she wants them off and she wants them off now. She then drops down and begins a great BBBJ and I climb on the bed to watch her head bob for the next 10 minutes as she gets me rock hard with her mouth. She then comes up, and we continue kissing as I take off her top, kiss down her neck, and down to her tits. They are sensitive, and she loves them played with and sucked on. I lay her down, and pull of her panties, and enter her missionary. TIGHT! Had to take it slow as she got use to me, and then we were off like school kids again fucking in multiple positions. We take a break, she lays next to me and finishes me off with a great hand and BBBJ and I blow it all over her tits. Fun time, I will see her again if my regulars are busy.
Provider Name: Anna.
Website: http://americanbeautiesdetroit.com/?page_id=6432.
Stats: 5'8 34 C.
General Details:
Anna works for an agency, I have used this agency before and they have never recommended anyone not worth seeing. Anna is a tall model type, she is blonde and skinny. Anna was very nice, and a fun to be with. I would recommend if you are into skinny ladies, personally I am not but wanted to try something different. If you like the model type I recommend her for sure, if you are not normally a model type I recommend taking a chance, you never know you may have a great time! YMMV.
Review:
Was welcomed into a very clean, and very safe location in a great area. We chatted for a bit and got comfortable on the couch. Once we felt comfortable with each other we took things to the bed, she led me there by my hand as we kissed first LFK and then more DFK as her hands reached for my cock she began to rub me through my shorts as our kissing got a bit more heated. I then began to explore her body and took off her bra and exposed her tits and began to play with them as she moaned and released my cock she took hold and at first stroked slowly, and then more heated making me rock hard. She then knelt down and began to lick my balls and while she was stoking me, and then all at once she took my entire manhood down her throat! She gaged on it and then began to give me a great BBBJ while I was playing with her pussy and fingering her. This went on for about 10 minutes and I had to make her stop before I came too soon. I laid her down on the bed while kissing her and then entered her missionary style and fucked her for about 15 minutes in many positions. All the time she was asking me to fuck her harder and harder until I started to cum, she realized I was about to cum and jumped up and asked me to cum in her mouth. I emptied my balls deep in her mouth as she sucked me dry.
Provider Name: Adeline.
Website: http://americanbeautiesdetroit.com/?page_id=6244.
Stats: 5'7 36 B.
General Details:
Two Call System, service picks up and is very helpful. Screening was easy. Showed at location and was very happy to see behind the door the model type I saw on the site, and was told about. Session was great, and will repeat again, over and over! So stay away from her!
Review:
Walked into the door and saw the most amazing beautiful women. We chatted for a bit, and got to know each other, she excused herself after a few minutes to get comfortable. We laid on the bed and started kissing and getting to know each other a bit more personally. I slowly took her bra off, and sucked and played her amazing tits as she rubbed my cock till it was hard. She then released it from my shorts and stroked and pulled on it. We then started making out like kids and playing with each other. I took her panties off, as she continued to stroke me, and pull me towards her. She then pulled me closer to her and gave me the best BBBJ I have had in months. After about 10'minutes She couldn't wait, and pulled my cock to her pussy and asked me to fuck her. I plunged my cock into her pussy as we fucked in missionary, doggy, cowgirl, reverse cowgirl until I couldn't hold it, I pulled out and busted my nut on her stomach. Adeline is an amazing girl and I will see her over and over.
Daze.Some of the best penthouse forum fake garbage I have ever read!
Pussylicker2
08-12-16, 15:35
Reference system here is basically they will ask you for a couple of ladies who you have seem in the past couple months, and how those ladies will remember you. They then check up on that reference and call the lady. Pretty easy.
I think the "reference system" is a crock of shit. It doesn't prove anything. Suppose the cops are doing a sting. They give a police woman as a reference. Suppose a guy wants to kidnap or abuse a woman, he has a nice date with a girl, and uses her as a reference so he can now get access to the woman. Suppose the girl you use as a reference wants to see you again, is she going to tell some other ho that you're a good date? If she says she never heard of you, you might call her since you failed the reference test and are still horny.
Daze, you sound like you're the pimp in this operation. The prices are TOO HIGH. Much too high. I don't see why anyone would go thru this reference crap in order to over-pay.
No one said you had to approve it. If you don't like it, then don't use!
No, I am not the "pimp in this operation", just a guy looking to use the board to share information, and get information on the hobby. If you pay attention to the reviews I posted I was reviewing two different agency's. Kinda hard to be a pimp for two different agency's isn't it?? There is far to many bait and switchs happening now days and I decided to come back. I use to be a major contributor to the old Scorps Guide board back in the day.
Daze.
I think the "reference system" is a crock of shit. It doesn't prove anything. Suppose the cops are doing a sting. They give a police woman as a reference. Suppose a guy wants to kidnap or abuse a woman, he has a nice date with a girl, and uses her as a reference so he can now get access to the woman. Suppose the girl you use as a reference wants to see you again, is she going to tell some other ho that you're a good date? If she says she never heard of you, you might call her since you failed the reference test and are still horny.
Daze, you sound like you're the pimp in this operation. The prices are TOO HIGH. Much too high. I don't see why anyone would go thru this reference crap in order to over-pay.
Some of the best penthouse forum fake garbage I have ever read!
I think the "reference system" is a crock of shit. It doesn't prove anything. Suppose the cops are doing a sting. They give a police woman as a reference. Suppose a guy wants to kidnap or abuse a woman, he has a nice date with a girl, and uses her as a reference so he can now get access to the woman. Suppose the girl you use as a reference wants to see you again, is she going to tell some other ho that you're a good date? If she says she never heard of you, you might call her since you failed the reference test and are still horny.
Daze, you sound like you're the pimp in this operation. The prices are TOO HIGH. Much too high. I don't see why anyone would go thru this reference crap in order to over-pay.
No one said you had to approve it. If you don't like it, then don't use!
No, I am not the "pimp in this operation", just a guy looking to use the board to share information, and get information on the hobby. If you pay attention to the reviews I posted I was reviewing two different agency's. Kinda hard to be a pimp for two different agency's isn't it?? There is far to many bait and switchs happening now days and I decided to come back. I use to be a major contributor to the old Scorps Guide board back in the day.
Daze.Since two of you think the third one is full of shit, I fixed it for you and put him on your ignore list.
Since the third thinks the two of you are assholes I fixed it for him as well.
Keep this kind of stupidity off the review threads.
A2
I would avoid them as they have a bad reputation.
As to the Diamond Ladies all I hear are great things. So Leslie gets a thumbs up.
Hey guys, my UTR girl is looking to make some extra cash and is letting me share her info. She's in the MH area, 22 and used to dance at Players, so some of you guys may already know her.
Message me with something to trade and I'll give you her info and send you pics if you include your email.LOL, so a female who escorts asks you to help her with new clients and you choose to attempt to parlay her to fellow members.
GTFOH.
LOL, so a female who escorts asks you to help her with new clients and you choose to attempt to parlay her to fellow members.
GTFOH.LOL yea I would ignore that guy. He's a troll.
LOL, so a female who escorts asks you to help her with new clients and you choose to attempt to parlay her to fellow members.
GTFOH.Go fuck yourself.
LOL, so a female who escorts asks you to help her with new clients and you choose to attempt to parlay her to fellow members.
GTFOH.What's the problem. It's not like it was his sister. Or did I miss that! LOL.
Go fuck yourself.LOL, you pitiful piece of shit.
HookerLover
09-28-16, 21:24
http://detroit.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/sexy-red-40-top-special/26679336
Saw Red this morning before I went into work. Picked her up from a house in Inkster. She got in and looked good and smelled very nice. This isn't the first time I have seen her, but it's been a while. We found a spot that she said is safe and could relax at. Started off with a little GFE, lots of kissing and feeling her extremely wet kitty under her dress, she wasn't wearing panties so that made it easy. I took out the big man and she started going to work. Her mouth game is very good, very sloppy and lots of deep throating. She told me that she enjoys having a dick in her mouth and it shows. I was playing with her kitty while she gave me head and I couldn't believe how wet she was, it was running down her thigh! I got out and told her to bend over on the passenger seat, I raised her dress up and went in. Fellas, when I say she got the wetest pussy I had from a BP girl I truly mean it. I was pounding away, but I couldn't hold it anymore, I don't know if it was because of her moaning or the wet noise her pussy was making, but I unloaded in the cover. She said she wanted me to unload in her mouth, but the pussy was to good.You don't think the extra wetness had to do with some other guy just releasing in her? She's a hooker. I think that would make more sense than you getting her off. It's cool if you like the feel of other guys jizz falling out of her. .
Haha. That's the first thing that comes to my mind when the girl is wet.
You don't think the extra wetness had to do with some other guy just releasing in her? She's a hooker. I think that would make more sense than you getting her off. It's cool if you like the feel of other guys jizz falling out of her. .
CyberFrogiii
10-19-16, 16:06
Hey fellas,
I know this isn't a legal forum, but I'm hoping to get some help from those of you with experience and maybe help others in the future.
I got hauled in a while back by Highland Park. I was on the Are and swooped a decoy a couple blocks north of 6.
At the arraignment, I pled guilty. The magistrate asked if I commited this offense "on this date" in the City of HP. I told him I believed I was in Detroit and told him where I was. He asked if this was where the proposition or the arrest happened. It was the proposition. He did not ask where the arrest took place but said based on this info, he could not accept a guilty plea. He then set a pretrial date.
So my questions are;.
Can they cross lines like that?
Does it matter where the proposition took place?
Does it matter where the arrest took place?
North of 6 mile, what is considered Highland Park vs. Detroit?
PolishTheTurd
10-19-16, 19:31
Hey fellas,
I know this isn't a legal forum, but I'm hoping to get some help from those of you with experience and maybe help others in the future.
I got hauled in a while back by Highland Park. I was on the Are and swooped a decoy a couple blocks north of 6.
At the arraignment, I pled guilty. The magistrate asked if I commited this offense "on this date" in the City of HP. I told him I believed I was in Detroit and told him where I was. He asked if this was where the proposition or the arrest happened. It was the proposition. He did not ask where the arrest took place but said based on this info, he could not accept a guilty plea. He then set a pretrial date.
So my questions are;.
Can they cross lines like that?
Does it matter where the proposition took place?
Does it matter where the arrest took place?
North of 6 mile, what is considered Highland Park vs. Detroit?Sorry for your bad luck. They could have thrown the case out and went after real criminals. Our tax dollars at work. I know that anything south of 6 mile at Woodward is considered Highland Park. The vu that got shut down is on the southwest corner of 6 and Woodward and is Highland Park. Hopefully someone will add more than me to help you out. Good luck Cyberfrogiii.
Hey fellas,
I know this isn't a legal forum, but I'm hoping to get some help from those of you with experience and maybe help others in the future.
I got hauled in a while back by Highland Park. I was on the Are and swooped a decoy a couple blocks north of 6.
At the arraignment, I pled guilty. The magistrate asked if I commited this offense "on this date" in the City of HP. I told him I believed I was in Detroit and told him where I was. He asked if this was where the proposition or the arrest happened. It was the proposition. He did not ask where the arrest took place but said based on this info, he could not accept a guilty plea. He then set a pretrial date.
So my questions are;.
Can they cross lines like that?
Does it matter where the proposition took place?
Does it matter where the arrest took place?
North of 6 mile, what is considered Highland Park vs. Detroit?You left out some pertinent information here. Where were you stopped at and was it DPD, DVICE, or HP LEO? If you scooped a girl for a ride North of 6 that is the city of Detroit. No question. However if you were pulled over in HP by HP LEO that's good as they have no money and most of the time will settle for a fine. Now where this gets interesting is if you were stopped by DPD and you were actually in Highland Park? Now that might get thrown out as they have no jurisdiction there. And more than likely would not show up for court. So again, who pulled you over and where exactly? Also where was your first court date in front of the magistrate?
DetroitWill
10-19-16, 19:58
Hey fellas,
I know this isn't a legal forum, but I'm hoping to get some help from those of you with experience and maybe help others in the future.
I got hauled in a while back by Highland Park. I was on the Are and swooped a decoy a couple blocks north of 6.
At the arraignment, I pled guilty. The magistrate asked if I commited this offense "on this date" in the City of HP. I told him I believed I was in Detroit and told him where I was. He asked if this was where the proposition or the arrest happened. It was the proposition. He did not ask where the arrest took place but said based on this info, he could not accept a guilty plea. He then set a pretrial date.
So my questions are;.
Can they cross lines like that?
Does it matter where the proposition took place?
Does it matter where the arrest took place?
North of 6 mile, what is considered Highland Park vs. Detroit?I remeber Lincoln Park police got sued for not stoping a drag race. On fort street even though it was in Detroit. They did monitor, arrest and hassle people ,walkers and mongers, within Detroit limits. I would think if they observe a felony thay can arrest someone outside of limits.
DetroitWill
10-19-16, 20:18
Best I can tell general rule is police cannot arrest in another district unless hot persuit, in conjunction with state or federal police. Felonies seem to be an exception if they saw it happen.
Hey fellas,
I know this isn't a legal forum, but I'm hoping to get some help from those of you with experience and maybe help others in the future.
I got hauled in a while back by Highland Park. I was on the Are and swooped a decoy a couple blocks north of 6.
At the arraignment, I pled guilty. The magistrate asked if I commited this offense "on this date" in the City of HP. I told him I believed I was in Detroit and told him where I was. He asked if this was where the proposition or the arrest happened. It was the proposition. He did not ask where the arrest took place but said based on this info, he could not accept a guilty plea. He then set a pretrial date.
So my questions are;.
Can they cross lines like that?
Does it matter where the proposition took place?
Does it matter where the arrest took place?
North of 6 mile, what is considered Highland Park vs. Detroit?Often what police can or cannot do depends upon the level of law you can afford and or your knowledge of the law.
To answer your questions: can they cross lines -- yes.
Does it matter where the proposition / arrest took place? Apparently not especially in governments with the confines of other governments. IE places like Highland Park and Hamtramk. At best you could have argued on the legality and what they could have done to keep it more legal is.
Simply summon the other county police force to finalize said arrest.
I'm assuming they impounded your vehicle? Did they arrest you and take you in or did they just give you a ticket?
What I'm wondering about is how come they refused to accept your guilty plea? Obviously there is more to your story and or they are looking to punish you to the full extent.
Hey fellas,
I know this isn't a legal forum, but I'm hoping to get some help from those of you with experience and maybe help others in the future.
I got hauled in a while back by Highland Park. I was on the Are and swooped a decoy a couple blocks north of 6.
At the arraignment, I pled guilty. The magistrate asked if I commited this offense "on this date" in the City of HP. I told him I believed I was in Detroit and told him where I was. He asked if this was where the proposition or the arrest happened. It was the proposition. He did not ask where the arrest took place but said based on this info, he could not accept a guilty plea. He then set a pretrial date.
So my questions are;.
Can they cross lines like that?
Does it matter where the proposition took place?
Does it matter where the arrest took place?
North of 6 mile, what is considered Highland Park vs. Detroit?I see you have several good responses raising questions. Mine is simple, given your ignorance of jurisdiction etc. , Why the hell did you make any statement in open Court regarding your actions. A lawyer would advise you to STFU.
Hey fellas,
I know this isn't a legal forum, but I'm hoping to get some help from those of you with experience and maybe help others in the future.
I got hauled in a while back by Highland Park. I was on the Are and swooped a decoy a couple blocks north of 6.
At the arraignment, I pled guilty. The magistrate asked if I commited this offense "on this date" in the City of HP. I told him I believed I was in Detroit and told him where I was. He asked if this was where the proposition or the arrest happened. It was the proposition. He did not ask where the arrest took place but said based on this info, he could not accept a guilty plea. He then set a pretrial date.
So my questions are;.
Can they cross lines like that?
Does it matter where the proposition took place?
Does it matter where the arrest took place?
North of 6 mile, what is considered Highland Park vs. Detroit?6 mile is the border between Highland Park and Detroit so there may be a valid jurisdictional question. If you were north of 6 mile you were in Detroit. I also doubt you want to plead guilty without talking to a lawyer first as there may be repercussions you are not aware of for doing so. There may be a plea deal available as well.
Hey fellas,
I know this isn't a legal forum, but I'm hoping to get some help from those of you with experience and maybe help others in the future.
I got hauled in a while back by Highland Park. I was on the Are and swooped a decoy a couple blocks north of 6.
At the arraignment, I pled guilty. The magistrate asked if I commited this offense "on this date" in the City of HP. I told him I believed I was in Detroit and told him where I was. He asked if this was where the proposition or the arrest happened. It was the proposition. He did not ask where the arrest took place but said based on this info, he could not accept a guilty plea. He then set a pretrial date.
So my questions are;.
Can they cross lines like that?
Does it matter where the proposition took place?
Does it matter where the arrest took place?
North of 6 mile, what is considered Highland Park vs. Detroit?If you have not already spoken to an attorney these cases are money grabs car impounded is the big expense it is a misdemeanor charge like an expensive ticket.
DetroitSkinny
10-22-16, 17:16
Hey fellas,
I know this isn't a legal forum, but I'm hoping to get some help from those of you with experience and maybe help others in the future.
I got hauled in a while back by Highland Park. I was on the Are and swooped a decoy a couple blocks north of 6.
At the arraignment, I pled guilty. The magistrate asked if I commited this offense "on this date" in the City of HP. I told him I believed I was in Detroit and told him where I was. He asked if this was where the proposition or the arrest happened. It was the proposition. He did not ask where the arrest took place but said based on this info, he could not accept a guilty plea. He then set a pretrial date.
So my questions are;.
Can they cross lines like that?
Does it matter where the proposition took place?
Does it matter where the arrest took place?
North of 6 mile, what is considered Highland Park vs. Detroit?As several readers have stated, you need an attorney. You want this to go away and that is what the good ones do. If you need my guy's name, let me know. Pre-trial is where your lawyer will do a plea deal and fight to keep your fine in the $400-$600 range. Yes, this is just a money grab and a misdemeanor, but it is very painful just the same so have a large shot of Novocaine handy before entering the court room. Good luck.
Streetworthy
10-23-16, 03:43
There is a one mile buffer (jurisdiction) for LE to cruise into and can make arrests with in said distance. Any cities LE bordering 8 mile can come up to a mile inside Detroit and DP can go into the suburbs one mile. I've seen Hazel Park police on many occasions cruise the blocks east of John are and south almost to Lantz and have witnessed them making arrests south of 8. I've also seen DP follow a couple individual's out the hood and pull them over.
Best I can tell general rule is police cannot arrest in another district unless hot persuit, in conjunction with state or federal police. Felonies seem to be an exception if they saw it happen..
DetroitWill
10-24-16, 05:50
There is a one mile buffer (jurisdiction) for LE to cruise into and can make arrests with in said distance. Any cities LE bordering 8 mile can come up to a mile inside Detroit and DP can go into the suburbs one mile. I've seen Hazel Park police on many occasions cruise the blocks east of John are and south almost to Lantz and have witnessed them making arrests south of 8. I've also seen DP follow a couple individual's out the hood and pull them over.
.Of course the best attorney you can afford is way to go. I based my comments on a Michigan court ruling I looked up.
Hey fellas,
I know this isn't a legal forum, but I'm hoping to get some help from those of you with experience and maybe help others in the future.
I got hauled in a while back by Highland Park. I was on the Are and swooped a decoy a couple blocks north of 6.
At the arraignment, I pled guilty. The magistrate asked if I commited this offense "on this date" in the City of HP. I told him I believed I was in Detroit and told him where I was. He asked if this was where the proposition or the arrest happened. It was the proposition. He did not ask where the arrest took place but said based on this info, he could not accept a guilty plea. He then set a pretrial date.
So my questions are;.
Can they cross lines like that?
Does it matter where the proposition took place?
Does it matter where the arrest took place?
North of 6 mile, what is considered Highland Park vs. Detroit?Well, I am guessing it has to do with you not paying attention to detail. I know I have personally told you not to put Pontiac info not in the Detroit thread about six times, plus my other brothers that have mentioned the same thing. You don't listen, It is not a surprise you ended up in this situation. Good luck, perhaps leave this stuff to grown-ups? And yes, all jurisdictions can cross lines. It is actually 2 miles here in Michigan. Shared jurisdiction it is called.
MightyMonger
10-26-16, 17:03
Well, I am guessing it has to do with you not paying attention to detail. I know I have personally told you not to put Pontiac info not in the Detroit thread about six times, plus my other brothers that have mentioned the same thing. You don't listen, It is not a surprise you ended up in this situation. Good luck, perhaps leave this stuff to grown-ups? And yes, all jurisdictions can cross lines. It is actually 2 miles here in Michigan. Shared jurisdiction it is called.I concur, and why would anyone post about getting busted in the fight thread?
Well, I am guessing it has to do with you not paying attention to detail. I know I have personally told you not to put Pontiac info not in the Detroit thread about six times, plus my other brothers that have mentioned the same thing. You don't listen, It is not a surprise you ended up in this situation. Good luck, perhaps leave this stuff to grown-ups? And yes, all jurisdictions can cross lines. It is actually 2 miles here in Michigan. Shared jurisdiction it is called.Cops can extend beyond what is legal. As anyone who has ever witnessed cops blatantly lie and perjury themselves in a court of law.
Most of the time it is about reading peoples their rights when they haven't. But I would not put it past some to be okay with extending beyond shared border jurisdiction. After all possession of a criminal is about nine tenths of the law and if you get one that cannot afford proper representation.
10 out of 10.
Sorry for the dumb question, I don't see the Pontiac section, can someone post or PM me the link.It is hidden under other Michigan. Pretty dead on that forum.
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2125-Pontiac
CyberFrogiii
11-27-16, 22:20
Well, Special ED.
Perhaps you are right about not paying attention to detail, since I meant to post this in the SW forum. But I guess it was meant to be HERE if for no other reason than to say this:
First off, no-one "tells" me what to do. I have respect for this site and it's members and would not continue to do something to offend anyone. The truth is, every time there has been a complaint about Pontiac info on the Detroit thread (and I'm sure it's less than you claim), I've received PMs from different members saying to ignore you and thanking me for the info. So I have continued to share for the benefit of those who are obliged.
I don't know what your issue is with Pontiac. I see posts about other strolls around the Metro area often and have never seen anyone ***** about it. The SW thread has only a few posts per day added if not every other day or less. I don't see where an occasional post clutters up the thread.
I thought we were all here to help eachother out and to share our experiences in the hobby.
I'm not a newbie, and my unfortunate incident with HP happened in 2015 (before I became a member here I might ad). I'm not the first person here this has happened to, but this is one of the reasons we are all here, right? To hopefully learn and share. "Shared juresdiction". I'll keep that in my handy dandy notebook. Thanks.
And thanks to all who commented on the original post. Your comments were lost to me until recently, since I rarely visit this thread, but your help and advise is greatly appreciated.
Frogiii.
P.S. Since a "not guilty" plea was entered due to my testimony of being in Detroit and not HP, a bargain was offered. "Disorderly Conduct" with fines well below the $400-$600 earlier mentioned, $80 health class and expungement upon completion. Thank you, thank you.
Well, I am guessing it has to do with you not paying attention to detail. I know I have personally told you not to put Pontiac info not in the Detroit thread about six times, plus my other brothers that have mentioned the same thing. You don't listen, It is not a surprise you ended up in this situation. Good luck, perhaps leave this stuff to grown-ups? And yes, all jurisdictions can cross lines. It is actually 2 miles here in Michigan. Shared jurisdiction it is called.
My theory: MensAReject = LazyDog = Heather.
MensAReject
12-04-16, 06:40
My theory: MensAReject = LazyDog = Heather.That would require me to be both male and female. Is there a hermaphrodite section? LOL.
Mensa Reject.
My theory: MensAReject = LazyDog = Heather.I wonder if there is any truth to this. Especially since both members are now banned.
Admin, do you ever provide a reason for a ban. It might help to understand how legit their prior information is.
HiddenGems
12-06-16, 04:31
I wonder if there is any truth to this. Especially since both members are now banned.
Admin, do you ever provide a reason for a ban. It might help to understand how legit their prior information is.The Admin believed LD was indeed Heather and said so publicly. The banning of Mens Reject is a mystery.
You can find the sock puppet post with a search. You can also read all of LD's posts and see if you see the guiding hand of a woman or if its just white nighting or even neither. If it was her, that's a ton of effort and creativity about other women. Personally, I believe that there was one member, I won't name, who did try to bully her into some perversion and retaliated against her with reports of BBFS. Very commonly done. She was on defense, not offense. But that's my opinion.
And you know all this how?
I know, hello again Heather, and goodbye.
A2
StingRay2016
12-06-16, 05:56
I wonder if there is any truth to this. Especially since both members are now banned.
Admin, do you ever provide a reason for a ban. It might help to understand how legit their prior information is.CL or BP Girl = Rodney Dangerfield.
A2 = Boss.
I wonder if there is any truth to this. Especially since both members are now banned.
Admin, do you ever provide a reason for a ban. It might help to understand how legit their prior information is.FYI: Jack you're an unmoderated senior member, unless some new guy who's moderated quotes one of your posts I'll never see them.
The answer to this one is generally no. I don't tell them why I did it nor do I do much explaining about how I came to my conclusions because like the great Amarillo Slim used to say; "never give lessons at the poker table. " I don't want to teach them how to do this better.
Rest assured that I am 99.9999999% sure that Mensareject and Lazydog (I think that was the name) were that chick Heather.
I'm also 100% sure she already has a new name.
A2.
Added: She did, hidden gems, she will have a new one by tonight.
FYI: Jack you're an unmoderated senior member, unless some new guy who's moderated quotes one of your posts I'll never see them.
The answer to this one is generally no. I don't tell them why I did it nor do I do much explaining about how I came to my conclusions because like the great Amarillo Slim used to say; "never give lessons at the poker table. " I don't want to teach them how to do this better.
Rest assured that I am 99.9999999% sure that Mensareject and Lazydog (I think that was the name) were that chick Heather.
I'm also 100% sure she already has a new name.
A2.
Added: She did, hidden gems, she will have a new one by tonight.LazarusII = LazyDog = MensAReject = hiddengems = Heather.
I can't wait to see what her new name is.
StingRay2016
12-08-16, 13:18
LazarusII = LazyDog = MensAReject = hiddengems = Heather.
I can't wait to see what her new name is.Dude, just three (3) posts since early July and they are ALL ABOUT HEATHER.
Lfp247 = Heather.
Lmao.
Dude, just three (3) posts since early July and they are ALL ABOUT HEATHER.
Lfp247 = Heather.
Lmao.LOL, that did make me laugh. I would counter-argue that because there were only 3 posts since July, that would disqualify me from being Heather.
I just like following the Heather saga, it's my version of reality TV.
StingRay2016
12-09-16, 19:14
Musical Chairs. It's your turn. If I say more, it will be mine. LOL. Hope The Man has a sense of humour.
LOL, that did make me laugh. I would counter-argue that because there were only 3 posts since July, that would disqualify me from being Heather.
I just like following the Heather saga, it's my version of reality TV.
LazarusII = LazyDog = MensAReject = hiddengems = Heather.
I can't wait to see what her new name is.I don't think LazurusII was heather. He had hundreds of posts.
StingRay2016
12-10-16, 05:04
[Deleted by Admin]
And another one, Heather what you don't realize is that your content is what sets you off, I KNOW that all of those users were you, I don't THINK all of those users are you I KNOW it. So when you defend them in order to salvage any kind of credibility you show me another one of your users.
Thanks for that,
A2
Dangerous One
01-03-17, 13:44
Jackie is still my baby she is going through a transformation due to somethings that are very unfair towards her. Hopefully she will let go of the streets. I proud to say I love that woman in more than one way. She has beautiful heart.Good god man she's a 10 plus year Michigan Ave cum receptacle. What the hell do you see in her? Pay close attention. She is a crackwhore! She will always be a crackwhore! She will NEVER love you! She only loves drugs and will do anything including BBFSCIP with SEVERAL guys a day to get them. Stop being a fool and open your damn eyes.
DarkKnight33
01-03-17, 22:58
Good god man she's a 10 plus year Michigan Ave cum receptacle. What the hell do you see in her? Pay close attention. She is a crackwhore! She will always be a crackwhore! She will NEVER love you! She only loves drugs and will do anything including BBFSCIP with SEVERAL guys a day to get them. Stop being a fool and open your damn eyes.I am not saying you not right about most of the providers out there, but come on. Their human beings too and I know several of them that got off the streets in 2016, back with their kids and doing well as see them on FB. I know Jackie and Pappabd as one of the stand up senior members here, so show a little respect with these providers. Plus You have to create a new member name to talk shit about others. WTF! I just wonder if your the guy she was staying with in Taylor and she still going out while with you and you have a beef with her.
Dangerous One
01-31-17, 18:46
Bait and switch. Girl in ad is not girl in room. Girl in room is not poster of ad too. Could go on and on but just avoid.
http://detroit.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/exotic-spinner-fun-outgoing-open-minded/28348027I have no sympathy for guys like you that dive in head first, all you do is add fuel to the fire and make it more dangerous for the rest of us. When you do dumb stuff like this, these girls think they can pull this crap with anyone at anytime. Google Image has been around since early 2000 and talked about a thousand and one times on this site. Newbies with no common sense need to get out of the hobby before something real bad happens to them.
A quick image search shows she's had ads in Chicago, Ontario, and Orlando in the last month. Clearly a fake.
There's so much info readily available here for guys to use and avoid bad situations, but it seems like every week some regular member falls for a fraud that would be easily caught if he just spent some time researching. I don't get it. This can be a dangerous hobby. You can walk into a police sting or be robbed, especially incalls. Yet every week dudes casually roll that dice as if they have nothing to lose. Good luck with that.Anyone seasoned hobbyist that needs to do a reverse image search to find out her pics were fake needs to go back to newbie school. Common sense should tell you that a girl with model looks, wearing $200 worth of Victoria's lingerie, $300 designer shoes, isn't posting $60 short stay specials on Backpage.
Met with this girl at Detroit downtown.
http://detroit.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/call-me/28420983
http://detroit.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/nice-massages/22146842
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I was trying to get appointment with some of the other girls, but they do not want to travel to Detroit downtown.
Initially she quoted 200 for 1 hr, but after coming asked for 80 more. I paid as I was not in mood for negotiate.
She sucked just for a second for putting hat on and wanted to go for main immediately.
I said the appt is for 1 hour but she was listening and no more sucking. At that point 1 was so irritated that I told her she can go and keep also the money.
I was semi hard and she wanted me to put me in. Once in she wanted me to finish off quickly. All this lasted for 7-10 minutes, and she is gone in next 3/4 minutes.
So no kissing, no sucking not touching here, there etc, 280 for 15 min.
Only good thing is she is clean and is girl in picture.
She also has facebook page search for Daizy Dukes Driving you Taxi.$300 for a $40 looking streetwalker (rolling eyes). If she would have told you to hand over your car keys and wallet would you have done that too? Good god man grow some balls.
Dangerous One
02-15-17, 23:50
Very hot MILF. Disappeared for awhile.
https://www.************.com/detroit/classifieds/ad/546d5cc2cb94ffPpnC163zNHBdeZnP-8kPCHdYT5gKAaA1dHxF/
Anyone have her contact info?
Why would you post a link in that manner? I think some people need to become a little more technologically savvy.Before you tear someone a new ass, maybe you should know what the hell you're talking about. It's called "auto correction software" Try posting the "B" word (b!tch), the "W" word (w#ore), or the "C" word (cun-t), and see what it does. The same goes for competitors websites, the auto correction software will replace letters with stars.
Something tells me if JohnSolo would have been a senior member with 600 posts instead of a regular member with 6 posts you would of said a damn word, would you? Now lets see if you're man enough to apologize to him for being an asshole.
Dangerous One
02-16-17, 17:01
Gentlemen,
http://detroit.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/sexl-c0llege-babe-come-playy-with-me/28624109
I have been at this for some time and of course this looks way too good.
I am not technically savvy enough to search an image, or some of the other tricks many of you know.
The search of phone number brings up nothing.
Would appreciate comments, suggestions, investigative work if possible.
Thanks.
Be Safe Out There.Its not about being technically savvy, you're just plain lazy. If you can type this post, you can type "search an image" in the Google search box. Then invest 30 minutes of your time by reading how to do a reverse image search. But its just so much easier to ask someone else to do the work for you, right?
SocialAveng313
02-16-17, 19:14
Before you tear someone a new ass, maybe you should know what the hell you're talking about. It's called "auto correction software" Try posting the "B" word (b!tch), the "W" word (w#ore), or the "C" word (cun-t), and see what it does. The same goes for competitors websites, the auto correction software will replace letters with stars.
Something tells me if JohnSolo would have been a senior member with 600 posts instead of a regular member with 6 posts you would of said a damn word, would you? Now lets see if you're man enough to apologize to him for being an asshole.The copy and paste function is not new to computing. Word processing software has been doing it since the 80's. Copying and pasting into the a URL is the same thing. I have expressed frustration to those seeking advice (senior and regular), yet can't provide anything to go on. I'm sorry if I've offended you or your Guy F"&$)nd Mr solo. Damn auto correct. Your friend also has been a member for quite sometime, has a few posts, and mainly asks about Leah. That's something a senior member knows how to do.
Besides, I did t think I tore anyone anything. I hope you lay into the fella who posted below me. That's seems a little more coarse than my remarks, although that issue has been discussed at length here.
MightyMonger
02-16-17, 22:09
The copy and paste function is not new to computing. Word processing software has been doing it since the 80's. Copying and pasting into the a URL is the same thing. I have expressed frustration to those seeking advice (senior and regular), yet can't provide anything to go on. I'm sorry if I've offended you or your Guy F"&$)nd Mr solo. Damn auto correct. Your friend also has been a member for quite sometime, has a few posts, and mainly asks about Leah. That's something a senior member knows how to do.
Besides, I did t think I tore anyone anything. I hope you lay into the fella who posted below me. That's seems a little more coarse than my remarks, although that issue has been discussed at length here.LOL I can't figure this word out for the life of me.
SocialAveng313
02-17-17, 01:00
LOL I can't figure this word out for the life of me.It's supposed to be. Friend.
I am probably the last person to start controversy in anyone's life. My second sentence in the original post was an afterthought and should have been kept to myself. The first sentence was real. So many times, someone asks for info on a girl, yet the link either has spaces in it or some kind of abbreviated link that goes nowhere. Oh and my favorite. Placing a period at the end of the link which now becomes part of the link. I want to help those who request it, but make it easier for us. Most of the time when I want to offer my opinion or advice, I'm on my phone looking things up. Maybe planning my evening. This one really got me because the original request said she was older. Now I'm interested. I'll keep my eye out for her.
It turns out the original poster has been a member for a couple of years, mostly in Flint, but only has a handful of posts mostly asking about her. That sends up a red flag. Maybe he is related to her and is trying to find her. My neighbors son went missing. He was 31 - and they went everywhere searching for him. Ended up finding him in a motel dead of a heroin overdose.
Earlier this year, there was a newcomer looking for a Margaret. I knew exactly who he was referring to because I've seen her on FB and reached out to him. His only posts were about her. His last one stated he found her. No details about her being the best date ever. I think it was her boyfriend. He pm'd me her phone number and said I should look out for her psycho boyfriend. Maybe that was him setting me up. I don't know?
In closing, the guy who ranted on my response also ranted on another post just above mine on a senior member nonetheless asking for help with pictures. For me, checking the reliability of a picture using google reverse search has been tough. I've tried, but am not confident enough in knowing what I am doing is correct. Have I checked every angle? That's why I don't ask about pictures. Those questions have been answered a plenty. I do though, post my reports in an organize manner with the name in the title, followed by the copy / pasted link, finishing with my retelling of my event. Now, my retelling may not be juicy enough for some, but that's who I am. They have always been easy to find and the PMs I get are answered cordially.
Oh and I know Herrgen was taking a shot at me, but I didn't take it personally. I knew that damn second sentence was a bell ringer and should have been avoided.
Oh well, Life goes on.
SocialAveng313
02-17-17, 01:20
I see you only have 6 posts, all of which are negative comments against others. Feeling frustrated? Maybe you need to get laid and tell us about your experience so we may all reap the rewards of your adventure. And I do say this with a bit of concern for you mixed with sarcasm. Not trying to ream you a new A $$H0 l3. Damn Auto Correct again. Please, let us end this bickering and move on. Good posts / info are few and far between these days.
MightyMonger
03-11-17, 15:41
It's supposed to be. Friend.
I am probably the last person to start controversy in anyone's life. My second sentence in the original post was an afterthought and should have been kept to myself. The first sentence was real. So many times, someone asks for info on a girl, yet the link either has spaces in it or some kind of abbreviated link that goes nowhere. Oh and my favorite. Placing a period at the end of the link which now becomes part of the link. I want to help those who request it, but make it easier for us. Most of the time when I want to offer my opinion or advice, I'm on my phone looking things up. Maybe planning my evening. This one really got me because the original request said she was older. Now I'm interested. I'll keep my eye out for her.
It turns out the original poster has been a member for a couple of years, mostly in Flint, but only has a handful of posts mostly asking about her. That sends up a red flag. Maybe he is related to her and is trying to find her. My neighbors son went missing. He was 31 - and they went everywhere searching for him. Ended up finding him in a motel dead of a heroin overdose.
Earlier this year, there was a newcomer looking for a Margaret. I knew exactly who he was referring to because I've seen her on FB and reached out to him. His only posts were about her. His last one stated he found her. No details about her being the best date ever. I think it was her boyfriend. He pm'd me her phone number and said I should look out for her psycho boyfriend. Maybe that was him setting me up. I don't know?
In closing, the guy who ranted on my response also ranted on another post just above mine on a senior member nonetheless asking for help with pictures. For me, checking the reliability of a picture using google reverse search has been tough. I've tried, but am not confident enough in knowing what I am doing is correct. Have I checked every angle? That's why I don't ask about pictures. Those questions have been answered a plenty. I do though, post my reports in an organize manner with the name in the title, followed by the copy / pasted link, finishing with my retelling of my event. Now, my retelling may not be juicy enough for some, but that's who I am. They have always been easy to find and the PMs I get are answered cordially.
Oh and I know Herrgen was taking a shot at me, but I didn't take it personally. I knew that damn second sentence was a bell ringer and should have been avoided.
Oh well, Life goes on.SocialAveng313, I think you're missing Dangerous One's point. When a link is fucked up its not the fault of the poster, its the fault of the site.
I'm not going to put a period at the end of my sentences but they will be put there automatically by the site.
So when someone posts a link the site might be the one putting the period there http://detroit.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/?layout=gallery.
MightyMonger
03-11-17, 15:42
SocialAveng313, I think you're missing Dangerous One's point. When a link is fucked up its not the fault of the poster, its the fault of the site.
I'm not going to put a period at the end of my sentences but they will be put there automatically by the site.
So when someone posts a link the site might be the one putting the period there http://detroit.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/?layout=gallery.Yeap, the site put a period at the end of all 3 sentences including the link.
SocialAveng313
03-11-17, 17:25
Yeap, the site put a period at the end of all 3 sentences including the link.And I do appreciate your responses. I was probably frustrated that evening when barking at that guy. I would like to conclude this discussion (hopefully) with a refresher about proofreading. Maybe if we got in the habit of proofreading our posts, we could catch errors in our text. I am in the habit of doing so, and if I discover an error in the link or syntax, I select edit post and make the proper adjustments.
I would feel badly if I were to seek advice from one of you and I have to make you jump through extra hoops to get through my post. So many of us use smart phones when reviewing this site, myself included, that anything to make a quick search simple makes me want to volunteer my info, if I have any. Again, I apologize to the man from Flint if I have offended him or any of you.
MightyMonger
03-25-17, 11:44
Anyone know of a WSW, brown hair, thin that goes by the name "Part-time"? Was looking for some feedback. Post or PM, Thanks.
She's great exspecially if you like them slim good dpthrt.
Thanks much for your time and for the feedback, but being only your second post, I would like to hear from anyone else that may know her. I just know she runs with a guy and you could be that guy posting about her. As a senior member, I recommend you post more about your experiences when you can to build your credibility. That will get you more digits and senior status. Thanks.
Could I have Sunshine's number please?I would like to pass it on, but with only five posts and only one being a review, I don't know who you are yet. You have to put more foot work into the hobby and add more verifiable posts to gain status. Sorry DkDarkKnight33 do you remembers sending me this message about Sunshine back in in April of 2016 when I asked for her number? I thought to myself what typical SM crap. Then a few weeks later you got called out in the Motor City Mayhem thread by a bunch of senior members for telling girls what you read about them. I thought to myself how does this guy preach all this "you have to put more foot work into the hobby and build your credibility" crap and then sell out his brother mongers. You are the last person that should preach anything like this.
PonyDown714 wasn't asking for info he was offering it. I've met Partime a few times and what he says is true. If anyone needs to work on their credibility and get off their high horse its you.
To the rest of the members here, sorry for my rant. This guy just rubs me the wrong way with his two faced crap.
P.S. I was able to find Sunshine on my own, even picked her up at her house downriver a few times.
DarkKnight33
03-26-17, 02:28
DarkKnight33 do you remembers sending me this message about Sunshine back in in April of 2016 when I asked for her number? I thought to myself what typical SM crap. Then a few weeks later you got called out in the Motor City Mayhem thread by a bunch of senior members for telling girls what you read about them. I thought to myself how does this guy preach all this "you have to put more foot work into the hobby and build your credibility" crap and then sell out his brother mongers. You are the last person that should preach anything like this.
PonyDown714 wasn't asking for info he was offering it. I've met Partime a few times and what he says is true. If anyone needs to work on their credibility and get off their high horse its you.
To the rest of the members here, sorry for my rant. This guy just rubs me the wrong way with his two faced crap.
P.S. I was able to find Sunshine on my own, even picked her up at her house downriver a few times.With a member with only 3 reviews of a provider (if they are not made up) out of 66 post, you have some nerve to say anything. That was a bunch of crap about me selling out any member here or anywhere else. Sunshine and another monger were the ones. You are most likely that monger with a new name, posting the same old useless shit commenting on other member's posts. At least I don't hid behind a new member name. Its members like you that I know other senior members have had to create a new member name. Post some real reviews with digits provided and maybe someone will take you serious. Otherwise, keep your comments to yourself and add to this board some useful information instead of this shit. If you met "Part-time", then PM me her digits and I see if they are the ones I have or call her to see if those were her old digits. Otherwise, shut the fuck up and keep your thoughts to yourself MightyMouse.
With a member with only 3 reviews of a provider (if they are not made up) out of 66 post, you have some nerve to say anything. That was a bunch of crap about me selling out any member here or anywhere else. Sunshine and another monger were the ones. You are most likely that monger with a new name, posting the same old useless shit commenting on other member's posts. At least I don't hid behind a new member name. Its members like you that I know other senior members have had to create a new member name. Post some real reviews with digits provided and maybe someone will take you serious. Otherwise, keep your comments to yourself and add to this board some useful information instead of this shit. If you met "Part-time", then PM me her digits and I see if they are the ones I have or call her to see if those were her old digits. Otherwise, shut the fuck up and keep your thoughts to yourself.Dude. Don't even get me started. You know Damn well what shit you have pulled. Just give it up man. You're a sucker stroker. You get played by street sluts like a fucking violin. Please don't make me put you on blast in front of everyone on here. Just let it go. Seriously. Stick to what you do best, being some street ****** sucker trick. Can turn a girl into a house wife. Just saying.
Sinisterfiend
03-26-17, 10:34
This shit is funny af.
Why was this site created? Pass off useful information to help brother mongers stay safe?
Looks like people care more about making people look stupid than helping out with positive infIo.
I Post a positive review, got ripped up.
Got ripped off, got ripped up.
Being new and ignorant to research techniques, and that's an easy one to spot, you'll get ripped up.
Yes, its easier to ask a question than pour through pages of posts, like looking for a needle in a haystack, and sometimes the reviews arent even accurate.
Bickering among ourselves plays into the hands of the pimps and ripoffs and LEO waiting for you to slip.
Got ripped off yesterday, Pretty much called stupid for posting the experience and passing the information.
I'm a member. Don't have the knowledge to do a thorough search, found a fb page, seemed ligit, 80 bones later, insult to injury for sharing.
Would be nice if I could have came here and asked a question, but I knew better.
Peace.
This shit is funny af.
Why was this site created? Pass off useful information to help brother mongers stay safe?
Looks like people care more about making people look stupid than helping out with positive infIo.
I Post a positive review, got ripped up.
Got ripped off, got ripped up.
Being new and ignorant to research techniques, and that's an easy one to spot, you'll get ripped up.
Yes, its easier to ask a question than pour through pages of posts, like looking for a needle in a haystack, and sometimes the reviews arent even accurate.
Bickering among ourselves plays into the hands of the pimps and ripoffs and LEO waiting for you to slip.
Got ripped off yesterday, Pretty much called stupid for posting the experience and passing the information.
I'm a member. Don't have the knowledge to do a thorough search, found a fb page, seemed ligit, 80 bones later, insult to injury for sharing.
Would be nice if I could have came here and asked a question, but I knew better.
Peace.I found your post valuable. Don't let salty bedside manner hamper your motivation to post.
Sorry you got ripped off, thank you for posting your experience.
This shit is funny af.
Why was this site created? Pass off useful information to help brother mongers stay safe?
Looks like people care more about making people look stupid than helping out with positive infIo.
I Post a positive review, got ripped up.
Got ripped off, got ripped up.
Being new and ignorant to research techniques, and that's an easy one to spot, you'll get ripped up.
Yes, its easier to ask a question than pour through pages of posts, like looking for a needle in a haystack, and sometimes the reviews arent even accurate.
Bickering among ourselves plays into the hands of the pimps and ripoffs and LEO waiting for you to slip.
Got ripped off yesterday, Pretty much called stupid for posting the experience and passing the information.
I'm a member. Don't have the knowledge to do a thorough search, found a fb page, seemed ligit, 80 bones later, insult to injury for sharing.
Would be nice if I could have came here and asked a question, but I knew better.
Peace.I want to be clear when I say this. In no way shape or form was I ripping you. As a matter of fact I actually even stated I was sorry that happened to you. Did I not? Read my posts, and if you don't know how, just click on my name and it will take you to a page that gives you the option to see all of my posts. I have posted numerous times that I am more than willing to help via PM whenever anyone has a question. And I will not laugh at make fun of you or any member for asking a question via PM. Simply put, I did not intend to make you feel stupid in anyway. I actually thanked you and stated I have respect for the fact that you posted what happened. So I guess I'm confused as to how you come to this conclusion? Honestly, no bullshit, if you ever need help or pointers I am always around. And I know there are many members here that will vouch for that. Also once you read some of year's posts I think you will see that I try to inform and help. Again, wasn't trying to make you feel like you are stupid or that you're the only one this has ever happened to. The post I just made on the BP thread before I even read this post of yours shows my intentions were not to make you feel stupid or make fun and if you took it that way I apologize. Sincerely.
I want to be clear when I say this. In no way shape or form was I ripping you. As a matter of fact I actually even stated I was sorry that happened to you. Did I not? Read my posts, and if you don't know how, just click on my name and it will take you to a page that gives you the option to see all of my posts. I have posted numerous times that I am more than willing to help via PM whenever anyone has a question. And I will not laugh at make fun of you or any member for asking a question via PM. Simply put, I did not intend to make you feel stupid in anyway. I actually thanked you and stated I have respect for the fact that you posted what happened. So I guess I'm confused as to how you come to this conclusion? Honestly, no bullshit, if you ever need help or pointers I am always around. And I know there are many members here that will vouch for that. Also once you read some of year's posts I think you will see that I try to inform and help. Again, wasn't trying to make you feel like you are stupid or that you're the only one this has ever happened to. The post I just made on the BP thread before I even read this post of yours shows my intentions were not to make you feel stupid or make fun and if you took it that way I apologize. Sincerely.Nice response.
Dangerous One
03-28-17, 15:17
Before you tear someone a new ass, maybe you should know what the hell you're talking about. It's called "auto correction software" Try posting the "B" word (b!tch), the "W" word (w#ore), or the "C" word (cun-t), and see what it does. The same goes for competitors websites, the auto correction software will replace letters with stars.
Something tells me if JohnSolo would have been a senior member with 600 posts instead of a regular member with 6 posts you would of said a damn word, would you? Now lets see if you're man enough to apologize to him for being an asshole.
And I do appreciate your responses. I was probably frustrated that evening when barking at that guy. I would like to conclude this discussion (hopefully) with a refresher about proofreading. Maybe if we got in the habit of proofreading our posts, we could catch errors in our text. I am in the habit of doing so, and if I discover an error in the link or syntax, I select edit post and make the proper adjustments.
I would feel badly if I were to seek advice from one of you and I have to make you jump through extra hoops to get through my post. So many of us use smart phones when reviewing this site, myself included, that anything to make a quick search simple makes me want to volunteer my info, if I have any. Again, I apologize to the man from Flint if I have offended him or any of you.Not a lot of men would admit when they were wrong, I can respect that.
Dangerous One
03-28-17, 15:24
This shit is funny af.
Why was this site created? Pass off useful information to help brother mongers stay safe?
Looks like people care more about making people look stupid than helping out with positive infIo.
I Post a positive review, got ripped up.
Got ripped off, got ripped up.
Being new and ignorant to research techniques, and that's an easy one to spot, you'll get ripped up.
Yes, its easier to ask a question than pour through pages of posts, like looking for a needle in a haystack, and sometimes the reviews arent even accurate..
I found your post valuable. Don't let salty bedside manner hamper your motivation to post.
Sorry you got ripped off, thank you for posting your experience.Sinisterfiend,
I agree with Jackknoff. Don't let anyone keep you from posting. The only thing I would like to suggest is don't be like Jackknoff and post a bunch of BS just to run your post count up.
Sinisterfiend,
I agree with Jackknoff. Don't let anyone keep you from posting. The only thing I would like to suggest is don't be like Jackknoff and post a bunch of BS just to run your post count up.This is coming from the troll whose 9 post are almost exclusively attacks / snarky comments about other members.
Dangerous One
03-29-17, 22:10
This is coming from the troll whose 9 post are almost exclusively attacks / snarky comments about other members.That would depend on one's perspective on what a "troll" is. IMHO a troll is someone who talks shit just to start a fight. I'm not talking shit I'm speaking the truth, and if I wanted to fight my reply would have been much more aggressive. I dare any member here to read your last 100 posts and tell me you don't post BS just to run your post count up. You even post BS in other cities just to run your post count up. If 3 members tell me I'm wrong I'll apologize just like SocialAveng313 did. Fair enough?
RainMan2017
04-01-17, 09:10
That would depend on one's perspective on what a "troll" is. IMHO a troll is someone who talks shit just to start a fight. I'm not talking shit I'm speaking the truth, and if I wanted to fight my reply would have been much more aggressive. I dare any member here to read your last 100 posts and tell me you don't post BS just to run your post count up. You even post BS in other cities just to run your post count up. If 3 members tell me I'm wrong I'll apologize just like SocialAveng313 did. Fair enough?I think he's okay.
MightyMonger
04-01-17, 11:41
It seems a lot of members here put a lot of stock in post count. I assure you there are a lot of well seasoned mongers here with zero posts. Taking a look at Jack's past posts it does seem like he makes extra posts to boost his post count. But if that's what makes him happy, cool. Some members like to post a lot and some don't like to post at all.
RainMan2017
04-01-17, 12:08
It seems a lot of members here put a lot of stock in post count. I assure you there are a lot of well seasoned mongers here with zero posts. Taking a look at Jack's past posts it does seem like he makes extra posts to boost his post count. But if that's what makes him happy, cool. Some members like to post a lot and some don't like to post at all.I'm not aware of any perks for high post counts. I would like to hear what you think a member with zero posts contributes?
Dangerous One
04-01-17, 20:52
I think he's okay.1st, I wasn't asking if hes OK or not, I was asking if you think he posts BS to run his post count up.
2nd, When I said "if 3 members tell me I'm wrong I'll apologize," I really meant if 3 hobbyist tell me I'm wrong. Since you're not a hobbyist but really a provider with a hobbyist account your vote shouldn't count. But I said what I said so your vote counts even though it shouldn't.
For those of you who haven't figured it out yet, RainMan2017 is really Heather the provider who's had numerous accounts on here that A2 has banned many times.
RainMan2017
04-02-17, 12:32
1st, I wasn't asking if hes OK or not, I was asking if you think he posts BS to run his post count up.
2nd, When I said "if 3 members tell me I'm wrong I'll apologize," I really meant if 3 hobbyist tell me I'm wrong. Since you're not a hobbyist but really a provider with a hobbyist account your vote shouldn't count. But I said what I said so your vote counts even though it shouldn't.
For those of you who haven't figured it out yet, RainMan2017 is really Heather the provider who's had numerous accounts on here that A2 has banned many times.I don't think he's motivated by post count. Is that clearer? You still need to explain your theory of the benefit of a high count. You should apologize to us both. I am a male of retirement age.
Sinisterfiend
04-03-17, 18:34
I want to be clear when I say this. In no way shape or form was I ripping you. As a matter of fact I actually even stated I was sorry that happened to you. Did I not? Read my posts, and if you don't know how, just click on my name and it will take you to a page that gives you the option to see all of my posts. I have posted numerous times that I am more than willing to help via PM whenever anyone has a question. And I will not laugh at make fun of you or any member for asking a question via PM. Simply put, I did not intend to make you feel stupid in anyway. I actually thanked you and stated I have respect for the fact that you posted what happened. So I guess I'm confused as to how you come to this conclusion? Honestly, no bullshit, if you ever need help or pointers I am always around. And I know there are many members here that will vouch for that. Also once you read some of year's posts I think you will see that I try to inform and help. Again, wasn't trying to make you feel like you are stupid or that you're the only one this has ever happened to. The post I just made on the BP thread before I even read this post of yours shows my intentions were not to make you feel stupid or make fun and if you took it that way I apologize. Sincerely.Sorry MongerDl, in no way did I mean any disrespect.
I guess losin 80 bones made me a little sensitive, but I did want to share the experience in case there was anyone else out there with limited knowledge and resources.
Most of all, thanks for the support guys.
Sorry MongerDl, in no way did I mean any disrespect.
I guess losin 80 bones made me a little sensitive, but I did want to share the experience in case there was anyone else out there with limited knowledge and resources.
Most of all, thanks for the support guys.It's all good. Posting when you get ripped off is a good thing. It warns others. Often members post about being ripped off but don't give the details. The details are what's most important. How, what, who, where and any other info helps others see the scam so they learn not to fall for it.
Dangerous One
04-04-17, 22:26
Lots of reviews just do a search.
Again lots of reviews. Did you even take a minute to do ANY research?OK shit talker I'm calling you out. Since there are "lots of reviews" on both these providers, lets see YOU quote 3 reviews for each provider. If you can talk shit to NDakotaGuy lets see YOU take a minute to prove me wrong.
Dangerous One
04-04-17, 22:42
I don't think he's motivated by post count. Is that clearer? Yes, thank you Heather.
You still need to explain your theory of the benefit of a high count. There is no benefit of having a high count, I never said there was. But some guys like Jackknoff think there is so they post a bunch of BS to run their post count up.
You should apologize to us both. If Jackknoff gets two more votes I will. You'll get nothing and like it.
I am a male of retirement age.Sure you are Heather.
Yes, thank you Heather.
There is no benefit of having a high count, I never said there was. But some guys like Jackknoff think there is so they post a bunch of BS to run their post count up.
If Jackknoff gets two more votes I will. You'll get nothing and like it.
Sure you are Heather.Fucking hilarious. When will these chicks learn?
RainMan2017
04-05-17, 16:36
Fucking hilarious. When will these chicks learn?DangerousOne sounds like HookerLover reincarnated. Share his delusion if you want. Makes no difference to me.
Dangerous One
04-05-17, 16:50
Fucking hilarious. When will these chicks learn?At least it's only the bat-shit crazy ones that make fake accounts.
What is the background story with this Heather? And all the accounts that have been linked to her?
Did she at one time actually have a legit worker account? Did that one get banned?
MightyMonger
04-06-17, 21:38
What is the background story with this Heather? And all the accounts that have been linked to her?
Did she at one time actually have a legit worker account? Did that one get banned?Heather is an massage / escort provider who's had a few accounts on here to self promote, defend herself against bad reviews, and bash her competition (other providers).
Read from post 547 in this thread to 558
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?11202-MotorCity-Mayhem&p=3173570&viewfull=1#post3173570
MightyMonger
04-06-17, 21:40
DangerousOne sounds like HookerLover reincarnated. Share his delusion if you want. Makes no difference to me.Spoken just like an upset chick that got called out.
HookerLover
04-06-17, 21:44
Spoken just like an upset chick that got called out.Yeah, why am I being called out? All I said was that Heather is an escort. Which she is. Why hide from it? Just own it already. Everyone knows you are.
OK shit talker I'm calling you out. Since there are "lots of reviews" on both these providers, lets see YOU quote 3 reviews for each provider. If you can talk shit to NDakotaGuy lets see YOU take a minute to prove me wrong.And why do I have to prove to you, a newbie, anything. I see others have already pointed out the reviews.
Dangerous One
04-10-17, 16:14
And why do I have to prove to you, a newbie, anything. I see others have already pointed out the reviews.Typical senior member that thinks he's better then anyone with less post then him (rolling my eyes).
Because you talked shit to NDakotaGuy saying there were "lots of reviews" on provider A and provider B. Quote them and shut me the hell up. If not you're just a shit talker and this "newbie" just made you his woman.
Balls in your court shit talker. YOU need to quote 3 reviews for each provider to prove it and shut me the hell up, or you have to pee sitting down from now on.
P.S. No one has "already pointed out the reviews," YOU need to do it.
Dangerous One
04-10-17, 16:20
Heather is an massage / escort provider who's had a few accounts on here to self promote, defend herself against bad reviews, and bash her competition (other providers).
Read from post 547 in this thread to 558
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?11202-MotorCity-Mayhem&p=3173570&viewfull=1#post3173570You know the more I read Jackknoff posts and see how he interacts with the past and present Heather accounts I'm starting to think hes either a provider too or Heather's puppet.
MightyMonger
04-14-17, 21:22
Typical senior member that thinks he's better then anyone with less post then him (rolling my eyes).
Because you talked shit to NDakotaGuy saying there were "lots of reviews" on provider A and provider B. Quote them and shut me the hell up. If not you're just a shit talker and this "newbie" just made you his woman.
Balls in your court shit talker. YOU need to quote 3 reviews for each provider to prove it and shut me the hell up, or you have to pee sitting down from now on.
P.S. No one has "already pointed out the reviews," YOU need to do it.LOL, Hotone33 you better put this guy in his place or learn how to wipe from the front to the back.
Dangerous One
04-16-17, 20:22
LOL, Hotone33 you better put this guy in his place or learn how to wipe from the front to the back.He's a pussy, he's not going to do shit. Guys like him can only pick on someone smaller (less posts / new member) then him, but as soon as someone calls him out "she" just runs and hides like a little woman.
Dangerous One
04-16-17, 20:31
Anyone else notice these posts? https://independent.com.detroit.escortbabylon.com/post/21170156/ Hard FIVE 0 SPECIAL HAHA. Then one day I texted her or them, or whatever saying that the ride of my life doesn't want to be in the back of a LE taxi, and she just acted all shocked that I typed that.
I don't know if she just has a really bad sense of humor, or if this is just some funny good guys looking to scorpion sting us.What did you expect her to give you a discount for making her laugh?
These girls are out of their minds on drugs (paranoid as hell), anything LE related will send them over the edge. I can't even tell you how many times I was hung up on for just asking rates.
Dangerous One
04-16-17, 20:46
Anyone know of any? Pornhub etc has got me thinkin it would be awesome if something like that existed around here. I'm sure its TGTBT.Why in the hell would you post this in the BackPage Advertiser Reviews thread?
This isn't the movies, if you find a glory hole there will be a dude on the other side of the wall.
Dangerous One
04-16-17, 20:52
How to get a chicks name
Uhhhh I asked her while in gas starion.Another one who's a tough guy behind the keyboard but too much of a chicken shit to pick a SW up without someone giving him the green light.
He's a pussy, he's not going to do shit. Guys like him can only pick on someone smaller (less posts / new member) then him, but as soon as someone calls him out "she" just runs and hides like a little woman.Unlike you who gets a hard on talking shit and probably is yanking one off now because someone replied I don't sit and live off of being on my computer. Have you even seen any pussy other than in a magazine or pretending your hand is your girlfriend. Not a single post of yours is a review of a woman. Just piles of shit. You're probably afraid of being with a woman. So go ahead and keep getting excited and tugging that little thing you have while the rest of us are getting the real thing.
Dangerous One
04-23-17, 19:45
Unlike you who gets a hard on talking shit and probably is yanking one off now because someone replied I don't sit and live off of being on my computer. Have you even seen any pussy other than in a magazine or pretending your hand is your girlfriend. Not a single post of yours is a review of a woman. Just piles of shit. You're probably afraid of being with a woman. So go ahead and keep getting excited and tugging that little thing you have while the rest of us are getting the real thing.You talked shit, I called you out for it, and now you're all butthurt. I gave you more then enough time and chances to prove me wrong. Now you're my B-I-T-C-H!!!
Dangerous One
04-23-17, 20:18
Senior Members (over 45 years old) I have found a true gem.
I threw out a random Craigslist response, and found a treasure.
She is mid 40's, very good shape, thin, absolutely no candy, very enthusiastic, safe incall (Warren).
Needs money to care for her Father, a disabled veteran.
PM me for info if you are established here and over 45 years old, must be a gentleman do not want to her to exit the business.
Be safe out there.First, you only had 60 ish post when you made this post, get off that high and mighty senior member BS.
Second, you're dumb if you think she's not on drugs. Care for her father my ass, she fucking with that boy (heroin).
Go to Walmart and buy a 10 dollar drug test kit and see if shell take it.
Dangerous One
04-23-17, 20:29
**** So last weekend I was working night shift making deliveries. It was around 3:30 am and about a minute after coming down the on ramp I see a tight pair of jeans and a half shirt walking down the freeway. Of course, being the good samaritan, I had to stop to give her a ride. At first she declined, but her destination was 20 miles away, (in my direction) so she hopped in.
**** She thanked me and starts to explain how her night has turned to sh! T. Right off the bat she explains that she is an escort who was with a coworker out to a client. Some sh! T went down and she took off walking. Her phone was also dead. She had probably walked 5 miles when I saw her.
**** She wasn't into a car date, but gave me her name and digits. I was actually still working, so I dropped her off near her Apt. I will likely try her out in the near future. Intel would be great if anyone has the 411 on her.
http://independent.com.detroit.escortbabylon.com/post/19826572/
The number in this ad is not the number she gave me, but it has more pics than her current BP ad.
Frogiii.I'm calling BS.
The next time you pick up an imaginary escort tell her you're not into being a free taxi service (get out or put out).
Dangerous One
04-23-17, 20:50
What happened to this place arrived at 8 pm- parking. 08, cover. 15, bathroom troll. 03, bucket. 30, booth. 20, tenders. 12, shot girl. 10 and by the time I looked up and seen what was available I was 1. 0 in and didn't see anything I liked. The place was dead and had about 12 girls working. Flight club was my spot about 10 years ago, I guess I still want the same level of entertainment to make me want to spend my cash. Very disappointing.Hey asshole, that "bathroom troll" is just doing his job trying to put food on the table. The next time you use the shitter at a strip club and the toilet isn't covered in puke or you're not standing in a puddle of piss you can thank the bathroom troll because hes the one that cleans that shit up after some drunk fucker makes a mess. Jesus Christ you act like 3 dollars is going to break you.
Just an FYI, its a VIP club. Take your cheap broke ass over to Bogarts if you can afford a 100 bucks for a night out.
Dangerous One
04-26-17, 18:44
Possibly, but highly unlikely. She ensured I knew in advance we'd be using a condom during coitus.
I saw Nikki again yesterday. Same as before, only better, since we are a little more familiar with each other. I let her know when we started that I would do anything she liked; she replied "what we did last time was nice. " So I let her decide what we did. I like pleasing her, which makes her very enthusiastic about pleasing me.
A member sent me a PM asking whether I knew if Nikki offered BBFS, because her website says she offers PSE, and "PSE implies BBFS, right?" Geez.
Let's be clear. No, she does NOT offer BBFS, so don't ask.
No, PSE does NOT imply BBFS. Any SP offering BBFS is offering the chance to acquire an STI or three.
If you want BBFS, then may I suggest you develop a LTR with a SO.
For all others, use a condom. No exceptions. Be responsible!
This has been a public service announcement.First, since about one tenth of one percent of porn movies use condoms I'd say its reasonable to assume (or at least hope) BBFS is on the table when a provider claims to have PSE on her menu.
Second, let me tell you something about your little Nikki. She's had more then one raw dick inside her, trust me. I'm not saying she fucks everyone BB but she has had a few raw dicks in her.
Third, you sound like you have a special place in your heart for Nikki. Remember two things, she's a prostitute and she will fuck anyone with 200 dollars and 2 references.
Forth, fuck you and your public service announcement. We are all grown ass men here, save the lecture.
Acoustic53
04-26-17, 20:34
First, since about one tenth of one percent of porn movies use condoms I'd say its reasonable to assume (or at least hope) BBFS is on the table when a provider claims to have PSE on her menu.
Second, let me tell you something about your little Nikki. She's had more then one raw dick inside her, trust me. I'm not saying she fucks everyone BB but she has had a few raw dicks in her.
Third, you sound like you have a special place in your heart for Nikki. Remember two things, she's a prostitute and she will fuck anyone with 200 dollars and 2 references.
Forth, fuck you and your public service announcement. We are all grown ass men here, save the lecture.Sarcasm aside, thank you for the timely reminder that women who accept "donations" for sex are prostitutes, not friends. A PSA of your own! Although, considering the outpouring of condolence posts on the other thread for one recently deceased, it appears I am not the only one who should be reminded.
Dangerous One
04-28-17, 20:43
This report was deleted because it contributed nothing of value and in fact constituted a complete waste of bandwidth.
The purpose of this Forum is to provide for the exchange if information between men on the subject of finding women for sex. Let's stick to the subject.
Getting tired of this shit. You need to learn to keep your commentary on the fight thread or I'm going to have to merge all your accounts and ban them.
Going forward outside of MCM you may only post your direct, personal experience regarding sessions of commercial sexual activity. That means you may never, ever, quote somebody again off of that thread. I won't throw any flags, I'll just delete the content.
I know you will just create yet another user, a trolls gotta troll, but I'll do the same to that one as well. It's your behavior that leads me to you.
A2A2 how in the world is this a "Completely Pointless Post?" There's a member (MrHungWell) posting that you can get a hot wife to blow you through a gloryhole at the book stores in Toledo. Any seasoned monger knows that its not a chick on the other side of the wall its a dude. My only concern was the newbie monger not knowing any better, believing this BS info and running down there. If MrHungWell wants to lie to himself that's OK by me, but when he posts BS like hes done someone has to speak up.
P.S. It isn't trolling if what you post is true.
You are either a liar or delusional, your purpose here can be easily determined by reviewing your posts. If there is controversy you are in it, if there's not you are trying to start it.
99% of the trolls hide behind the fictitious "newby monger." Your only concern, which has been consistent since you joined, was getting guys pissed off enough that they would engage with you.
A2
Dangerous One
04-30-17, 13:21
You are either a liar or delusional, your purpose here can be easily determined by reviewing your posts. If there is controversy you are in it, if there's not you are trying to start it.
99% of the trolls hide behind the fictitious "newby monger." Your only concern, which has been consistent since you joined, was getting guys pissed off enough that they would engage with you.
A2A2, maybe if you took yourself off Auto-Nazi-Pilot for a few minutes you might be able to see a little more clearly. Once you label someone as "largely argumentative" you read every fucking thing they say as largely argumentative. Sure 95% off my posts are me putting my foot deep in someones ass for posting some dumb shit[Deleted by Admin]
Thank you, I appreciate you validating my opinion. As you say, 95% of what you post is trying to pick a fight.
The rest of the post was nothing but self justifying bullshit.
A2
Dangerous One
05-09-17, 18:58
A2, maybe if you took yourself off Auto-Nazi-Pilot for a few minutes you might be able to see a little more clearly. Once you label someone as "largely argumentative" you read every fucking thing they say as largely argumentative. Sure 95% off my posts are me putting my foot deep in someones ass for posting some dumb shit. Deleted by Admin
Thank you, I appreciate you validating my opinion. As you say, 95% of what you post is trying to pick a fight.
The rest of the post was nothing but self justifying bullshit.
A2You call it self justifying bullshit, I call it the truth. That's why you deleted it, ahhh the power of the admin control panel.
Agreed, the truth is that 95% of your posts are argumentative. You said it, not me. I'm not interested in the why's, that's always self justifying bullshit. You agreed when you joined this site that you wouldn't do it. The "power of the admin control panel" is me taking out the trash you are forever trying to spew here.
A2
Dangerous One
05-09-17, 19:06
Thank you A2!
I just wanted to also say thanks. It has become very hard to find info out when you have members doing battle over little things. Wish they would keep their comments to themselves we do not need to hear it.You two ass kisses do realize that unless you're on moderation A2 won't know you're blowing him via the internet, right?
https://web.archive.org/web/20170418195456/https://detroit.craigslist.org/okl/thp/6086566939.html
Went here but it wasn't as advertised. She had two crappy smelly oils: gradeseed or almond. Place smelled weird, little privacy (one of those japanese walls only about 5 feet tall was blocking a double door made of glass to an office setting. Ok. She was nice and made it very, very clear that there were no extras to be had. She was nervous as f even though I told her I didn't want extras bluntly. Her nervousness screwed up my muscles even more and I was telling her to relax as she was massaging too fast. She apologized at the end for being nervous. I told her why are you freaking nervous if I'm telling you I don't want extras?
Regardless, no extras to be had either way given her impression. Crappy massage. Crappy location. Would not repeat. Paid 120 (including tip) for a 90 minute massage.Mike,
Just one question, and I'm sure that the Admin will find this a reasonable question. If the massage was "crappy" from the beginning, why didn't you opt for 30 minutes instead of the full 90 minutes? I believe that this is a fairly reasonable question to ask.
Mike,
Just one question, and I'm sure that the Admin will find this a reasonable question. If the massage was "crappy" from the beginning, why didn't you opt for 30 minutes instead of the full 90 minutes? I believe that this is a fairly reasonable question to ask.Sammy, I know you like to white knight for Jessica / Leena Spa but why is it that you feel entitled to an explanation from Mike for any decision he made or didn't make? His opinion is that he had a lousy experience at Leena Spa and reported on it. It's as simple as that. Why isn't that the end of the story.
Member #5598
05-15-17, 12:26
Mike,
Just one question, and I'm sure that the Admin will find this a reasonable question. If the massage was "crappy" from the beginning, why didn't you opt for 30 minutes instead of the full 90 minutes? I believe that this is a fairly reasonable question to ask.http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=White%20Knight I fucking felt like it.
Sammy, I know you like to white knight for Jessica / Leena Spa but why is it that you feel entitled to an explanation from Mike for any decision he made or didn't make? His opinion is that he had a lousy experience at Leena Spa and reported on it. It's as simple as that. Why isn't that the end of the story.Yeah that question sure sounded weird. Almost as if it was a response from the massage lady.
That place probably should have not charged you or given you a future free massage with someone not nervous and going too fast.
Especially if she was conscious enough to having to apologize.
Getting a bad massage where the wrong force gets used can really do a number on a body. Sounds like 90 min of torture.
Sammy, I know you like to white knight for Jessica / Leena Spa but why is it that you feel entitled to an explanation from Mike for any decision he made or didn't make? His opinion is that he had a lousy experience at Leena Spa and reported on it. It's as simple as that. Why isn't that the end of the story.It's just not making any sense. Mike stated that it was a bad experience from the very beginning but yet stayed for 90 minutes. I'm just saying that if it were me and the service was crappy as he stated, I would have changed to 30 minutes, just saying.
It's just not making any sense. Mike stated that it was a bad experience from the very beginning but yet stayed for 90 minutes. I'm just saying that if it were me and the service was crappy as he stated, I would have changed to 30 minutes, just saying.Your line of questioning and continuation of asking sure does seem odd? Kinda reminds me a lot of like when a client would do a review (back on the old boards) and the person reviewed would diplomatically or not so diplomatically respond and try to pick apart the review. Someone else hinted you are white knighting, but I'm thinking this is like a Heather situation where a provider is talking through another account? Just odd. Very odd.
From my experience once you have selected say a time you are usually charged unless of course you are familiar and afforded the ability to adjust after the selection. But come now what is one suppose to say? You suck? I want my money back or want to leave early?
Rather awkward and no one really wanting a good massage and requesting a longer massage is ready to bolt. If I had to guess someone was expecting it to eventually possibly get better. It is like paying to see a movie and you want to see how it turns out. How many people really walk out from seeing a movie, unless of course it is really really really bad, most of us would watch if nothing to affirm how good or not so good. Heck just the other day I watched Nocturnal Animals and the movie blew, sure yeah I could have told people sorry I can't watch no more, but that would be about as awkward as say someone in a massage making a stink and demanding that their 90 min appointment turn into a cheaper 30 minutes.
Hell the guy even tipped.
Member #5598
05-17-17, 07:29
It's just not making any sense. Mike stated that it was a bad experience from the very beginning but yet stayed for 90 minutes. I'm just saying that if it were me and the service was crappy as he stated, I would have changed to 30 minutes, just saying.Leena and I had a great conversation. She was an incredible story-teller. She informed me of how one of the regulars to Leena Spa was whipped on them and they couldn't stand him. They decided to stick a dildo in his ass to deter him from returning, but he came back all the more! She said he desperately defends her, even though she is a shitty masseuse who doesn't give extras.
MongererMi
05-17-17, 10:41
Leena and I had a great conversation. She was an incredible story-teller. She informed me of how one of the regulars to Leena Spa was whipped on them and they couldn't stand him. They decided to stick a dildo in his ass to deter him from returning, but he came back all the more! She said he desperately defends her, even though she is a shitty masseuse who doesn't give extras.Yeah, she told me the same story as she was wrapping me up in layers of furniture pads so nothing would show. I can't remember the guy's name though. I think it rhymed with Tammy or something.
DragonSnake
05-21-17, 15:39
Yeah, she told me the same story as she was wrapping me up in layers of furniture pads so nothing would show. I can't remember the guy's name though. I think it rhymed with Tammy or something.Does she have a dual identity cause on my post about her I was undraped except at the end where she covered jr. Massage was so so. Maybe its cause I am an old fart and she didn't feel threatened, haha.
MongererMi
05-21-17, 21:01
Does she have a dual identity cause on my post about her I was undraped except at the end where she covered jr. Massage was so so. Maybe its cause I am an old fart and she didn't feel threatened, haha.I think it's obvious I was joking with my furniture pads crack. You can be undraped when you're on your stomach but you're going to be well wrapped on the flip. Doesn't really matter though. Both ways you're shit out of luck if it's happiness that's on your mind. What you're going to get is a mediocre massage in an uncomfortable, tense atmosphere.
Sorry to hear that. Like I said, Jamie is a legit provider. I am telling you this through personal meeting with her. Several times over a period of years. She also is or was a stripper at the Landing Strip. I also know her legal or real name as well. She is not new to the game. Has several friends I'm sure some of you would recognize too. You really should have just sent her a pic.
Now, with that being said if she asked for a pic it was to assure her of her safety. She is not a cop. Most likely something you said or did made her feel uneasy. Or perhaps think that you were.
Just to be clear before anyone says it. I in no way, shape, or form am posting this on her behalf or because I'm trying to promote her. I simply just posted my knowledge and nothing more. I look forward to the first person who reviews Jamie and confirms my statements.So what is the worst thing that can happen if you were to text your picture to a full fledged escort? Let that marinate for a second. I apologize in advance if I come off sarcastic but there are a LOT of things strangers can do with a picture, text message thread, and cell# in their phone. Bottom feeders are always looking for new ways to con easy marks.
I've had a few try me and I always decline and hang up. I recall one time in particular, I was upset because I drove way out to 696/ deq and she didn't ask for the pic until I got there. I have way too much to lose to consider some asinine business like that. As hot as she was to me, I had to pass. She still posts but there is no longer the send a pic rule. Why? Because addiction doesn't give a rats tail about security or privacy, just getting its fix. So what happens when the looks dry up, the facial scabs become more prominent, and her pimp gets tired of her not turning enough tricks to feed both of their habits? They pull out their phone and cold call weak johns to try and exploit, manipulate, and coerce their kindness for weakness. I'm sure I'll get a few guys that don't share my opinion but if she's worried about her security she can request a room by a notel camera, ask you to park in a spot where she can scope you out, give room# next to where she is so she can scope you out in advance, ask for references etc.
Good luck, be safe, let us know if you do it.
So what is the worst thing that can happen if you were to text your picture to a full fledged escort? Let that marinate for a second. I apologize in advance if I come off sarcastic but there are a LOT of things strangers can do with a picture, text message thread, and cell# in their phone. Bottom feeders are always looking for new ways to con easy marks.
I've had a few try me and I always decline and hang up. I recall one time in particular, I was upset because I drove way out to 696/ deq and she didn't ask for the pic until I got there. I have way too much to lose to consider some asinine business like that. As hot as she was to me, I had to pass. She still posts but there is no longer the send a pic rule. Why? Because addiction doesn't give a rats tail about security or privacy, just getting its fix. So what happens when the looks dry up, the facial scabs become more prominent, and her pimp gets tired of her not turning enough tricks to feed both of their habits? They pull out their phone and cold call weak johns to try and exploit, manipulate, and coerce their kindness for weakness. I'm sure I'll get a few guys that don't share my opinion but if she's worried about her security she can request a room by a notel camera, ask you to park in a spot where she can scope you out, give room# next to where she is so she can scope you out in advance, ask for references etc.
Good luck, be safe, let us know if you do it.Okay. So first off, as I CLEARLY stated. I have seen Jamie multiple times over multiple years. So the concern of having her get desperate and try to extort me is literally zero. Second, anyone with half a pea for a brain knows that you should not be using your real phone or phone number when you hobby. That's what a burner phone is for. Third, as far as her getting a room where she can see you? She does. And lastly, I don't need any " good luck " because I've already let you know how my experience with her was. Multiple experiences over multiple years. Again did you even read a word if my post?
Okay. So first off, as I CLEARLY stated. I have seen Jamie multiple times over multiple years. So the concern of having her get desperate and try to extort me is literally zero. Second, anyone with half a pea for a brain knows that you should not be using your real phone or phone number when you hobby. That's what a burner phone is for. Third, as far as her getting a room where she can see you? She does. And lastly, I don't need any " good luck " because I've already let you know how my experience with her was. Multiple experiences over multiple years. Again did you even read a word if my post?Relax bud, my response was meant for insidious. No need for the drama, we're all men here.
MightyMonger
06-05-17, 21:56
I'm not looking to fight with anyone, I'm just moving this topic here to keep it off the review thread.
So my saying to a guy who's looking for a dancer to "Why not give her a try" is such a strong positive review you couldn't resist? Pretty lame and weak. At no time did I say how much to spend or what was available. Read all my posts. Not just someone else's. There are reviews of Heather going back a year. As many favorable as not.If there's one thing I've learned in my life, is't you can't win an argument with a woman (especially a provider). I don't have the time to keep going back and forth with you on this, but as long as you keep on posting I will remind members that you are Heather. You have had a hand full of accounts banned already and I'm sure you still have a hand full more left.
My post seems to have prompted quite a bit of drama and conflict.
Between what I'm seeing in public posts and what I'm getting privately, someone is obviously either misinformed or being less than truthful to me.
So, allow me to ask, MM, how do you know that RainMan2017 is Heather?If I say how I know then she won't make the same mistake twice. Bottom line RainMan2017 is Heather.
You're a member with over 100 posts. When I see someone with so many posts telling someone "Why not give her a try?" and then go on to describe the nice body that she has, I take that as a nod of approval from an experienced member that's she's worth seeing and that the money will be well spent. Maybe if you'd had only 5 posts or so, I wouldn't have been inclined to take the nod and to my detriment, perhaps, I don't go through every member's post history.
I've been part of this board for quite a while now and if I were to tell someone "Why not give her a try? I'd expect that based on my years of experience and number of posts, they'd take it on good measure that it's a worthwhile experience.
In regard to pricing and availability, I've said nothing about blame or insinuated that you indicated that something was on the table that wasn't. Her and I texted beforehand and I knew what was available, before I went out there she got the price that we agreed upon. My loss is my loss. My problem was her lunacy and performance.This is what providers do when they make monger account, they promote themselves and their providers friends, and bad mouth the girls they don't like.
Let me ask this publicly and on the record, just for clarity. Are you Heather?You really think she's going to admit it?
Don't know for sure about Rainman 2017 much, but had PM'd with last week about see Brit Ashton. He knew of and helped, TY Rainman, so if he is Heather, hmmmmm. Well I doubt he is. Public enough? Stay safe.It seems that RainMan2017 likes to PM members to promote herself and or her provider friends, or even bad mouth the girls she doesn't like. Even I have received a PM or two from her. Anyone else receive a unsolicited PM from her?
I don't have a dog in this fight, I have nothing to gain for calling RainMan2017 out. Members need to know they a NOT communicating with a monger, they are communicating with a batshit crazy provider
RainMan2017
06-05-17, 22:42
For a guy not looking for a fight, you sure troll a lot. A2 had to censure you in the past. Think what you like, I don't give a rat's ass.
Incognito1234
06-06-17, 00:34
Thank you for the responses, MM. I had no idea that you were an admin or moderator.
Truly, I'm amazed at how much drama and infighting my review prompted. I posted a single review of a first time experience that I had with a provider and look what it's turned into.
Heather is the first non-AMP BP provider that I've seen in probably two years and I'm not sure what this girl has got going for her but based on both what I'm seeing in public and from the multiple private messages that I've received, she's got more than one guy on a string around her finger and working them like puppets. SMH. She keeps pulling the handle and they pay off every time, like rigged slot machines. Compared to these guys, I got off cheap. I spent $200 and never have to see her again.
Good luck. I hope her crazy isn't contagious.
I'm not looking to fight with anyone, I'm just moving this topic here to keep it off the review thread.
If there's one thing I've learned in my life, is't you can't win an argument with a woman (especially a provider). I don't have the time to keep going back and forth with you on this, but as long as you keep on posting I will remind members that you are Heather. You have had a hand full of accounts banned already and I'm sure you still have a hand full more left.
If I say how I know then she won't make the same mistake twice. Bottom line RainMan2017 is Heather.
This is what providers do when they make monger account, they promote themselves and their providers friends, and bad mouth the girls they don't like.
You really think she's going to admit it?
It seems that RainMan2017 likes to PM members to promote herself and or her provider friends, or even bad mouth the girls she doesn't like. Even I have received a PM or two from her. Anyone else receive a unsolicited PM from her?
I don't have a dog in this fight, I have nothing to gain for calling RainMan2017 out. Members need to know they a NOT communicating with a monger, they are communicating with a batshit crazy provider
RainMan2017 = LazarusII = LazyDog = MensAReject = hiddengems = Heather.
Thank you for the responses, MM. I had no idea that you were an admin or moderator.
Truly, I'm amazed at how much drama and infighting my review prompted. I posted a single review of a first time experience that I had with a provider and look what it's turned into.
Heather is the first non-AMP BP provider that I've seen in probably two years and I'm not sure what this girl has got going for her but based on both what I'm seeing in public and from the multiple private messages that I've received, she's got more than one guy on a string around her finger and working them like puppets. SMH. She keeps pulling the handle and they pay off every time, like rigged slot machines. Compared to these guys, I got off cheap. I spent $200 and never have to see her again.
Good luck. I hope her crazy isn't contagious.
RainMan2017
06-07-17, 19:10
RainMan2017 = LazarusII = LazyDog = MensAReject = hiddengems = Heather.Didn't we determine months ago that you had a greater percentage of posts about her? I recall 3 of 3 or 3 of 4. I probably have 20 out of 700.
I'm glad we have people looking out and I like some others picked up on what gives it away.
Heather? Why not just make a legit provider account?
Wouldn't it make a lot more sense to just make a proper account. Your business might actually improve.
Will consider it if I get Senior status. Left out the target du jour but it seems to mean something to my personal troll.
You're not making it to Senior, time to start again
A2Well it looks like Mighty Monger was right, looks like Heather AKA RainMan2017 just got banned.
How long will it take for this crazy skank to make another account?
Cris Wilson
06-08-17, 21:16
Well it looks like Mighty Monger was right, looks like Heather AKA RainMan2017 just got banned.
How long will it take for this crazy skank to make another account?I am curious on how it was decided that RainMan2017 was Heather. Just recently I had a conversation with RainMan2017 on PM regarding a SB provider that we had in common a couple years ago. He made comments of her that could only have been known by being in her bed. How in the world would another female provider know this? I also went through his old posts and nothing stood out to me as strange or provider-esque.
Keep in mind I am not trying to take sides or anything, I do not know RainMan2017 personally, and have no idea who Heather is outside of the little I have read. I just found all this drama intriguing, and at face value seems to be more of a personal vendetta rather than evidence based.
I am curious on how it was decided that RainMan2017 was Heather. Just recently I had a conversation with RainMan2017 on PM regarding a SB provider that we had in common a couple years ago. He made comments of her that could only have been known by being in her bed. How in the world would another female provider know this? I also went through his old posts and nothing stood out to me as strange or provider-esque.
Keep in mind I am not trying to take sides or anything, I do not know RainMan2017 personally, and have no idea who Heather is outside of the little I have read. I just found all this drama intriguing, and at face value seems to be more of a personal vendetta rather than evidence based.She made comments. I'm sure no one wants to spill the beans so as to assist fake provider accounts parading around as something they are not. I noticed in the language something just not right. As to how she knew what you claim? You will have to call her and ask or just observe her new account and pm it when you figure that one out. What is a SB provider? Is that sugar baby? Prostitutes run in strange circles and likely one of her clients met or talked to her about the SB and that is likely how she knew or they are acquainted.
I am curious on how it was decided that RainMan2017 was Heather."Don't give lessons at the poker table."
I'm not going to teach her how to hide better, but it's her.
A2
Cris Wilson
06-09-17, 00:52
"Don't give lessons at the poker table."
I'm not going to teach her how to hide better, but it's her.
A2LOL Fair enough!
Don't do it.
If you give your real info to some verification site (or hooker). Bad decision.
Before you take anyone's advice you should see exactly some of the other bad decisions they've made and or some posts made here and elsewhere.
Some people have little to lose and offer up advice that might work for them, but for most others, like I've said, it's bad advice.
Don't do it.
If you give your real info to some verification site (or hooker). Bad decision.
Before you take anyone's advice you should see exactly some of the other bad decisions they've made and or some posts made here and elsewhere.
Some people have little to lose and offer up advice that might work for them, but for most others, like I've said, it's bad advice.
Not to take drama to this board, but, dude. Please. What a weak argument. I guess I speak for all 36,411 users of P411 in your mind? LOL.
No need to repeat drama here dude, but, what you see as a bad decision, I see as successful info gathering and CYA. If you have the ridiculous situation I was in, you probably want to get written evidence on crimes.... which, you do by 'fishing' AKA posting for info. Especially when you cross state lines or have priors, it's not good to text a guy what you and your friend did.
Maybe you would too if in a similar spot, but, I won't encourage more flames. Just wanted to point out the tens of thousands in addition to several board members who disagree on P411. The info I have from fishing and getting texts would get the duo kicked off of P411 and every other national site. It's only the local stalker sites that gave a few women the confidence to do what they tried to.
Before you take some dude's advice that never dealt with a woman who wouldn't just go away... take some advice from one who has :) Get on a place that won't accept that trash and will kick them off.
SmoothDriver
06-10-17, 19:52
Not to take drama to this board, but, dude. Please. What a weak argument. I guess I speak for all 36,411 users of P411 in your mind? LOL.
No need to repeat drama here dude, but, what you see as a bad decision, I see as successful info gathering and CYA. Maybe you would too if in a similar spot, but, I won't encourage more flames. Just wanted to point out the tens of thousands in addition to several board members who disagree on P411.Nobody I know would EVER give out real personal info to get pussy unless your a bad credit no brain fool. Cmon so called men your not that desperate are you. LOL so hard to fuking your personal life to get some hoes pussy. Better yet give them your bank account info because they will have it soon enough after all the info YOU already gave up for some pussy. I am a banker who has run into these fool types who have lost everything because they put out their info on these sites. Good luck and save the dumb comments on how it won't be you who gets takin for a fool again.
Nobody I know would EVER give out real personal info to get pussy unless your a bad credit no brain fool. Cmon so called men your not that desperate are you. LOL so hard to fuking your personal life to get some hoes pussy. Better yet give them your bank account info because they will have it soon enough after all the info YOU already gave up for some pussy. I am a banker who has run into these fool types who have lost everything because they put out their info on these sites. Good luck and save the dumb comments on how it won't be you who gets takin for a fool again.Ok, for all you BP chasin, John are cruising little boys. YES, getting verified with P411 is NOT FOR YOU. If you stick to hood rats, you are fine.
If you are an accomplished adult, in need of some solid companionship with a LADY, not some 30 minute piece of trash at the local Clarion, getting verified with P411 will open doors to women all over Eros and other sites. Not everyone does their hobbying in their own backyard. I am going to Florida in August and will be looking to have some playtime. If I find a fox on Eros or another site, P411 will give me instant credibility. Some sophisiticated smoking hot chick who is by all accounts a "10" is not going to see you without some verification. P411 is a legit operation.
Nobody I know would EVER give out real personal info to get pussy unless your a bad credit no brain fool. Cmon so called men your not that desperate are you. LOL so hard to fuking your personal life to get some hoes pussy. Better yet give them your bank account info because they will have it soon enough after all the info YOU already gave up for some pussy. I am a banker who has run into these fool types who have lost everything because they put out their info on these sites. Good luck and save the dumb comments on how it won't be you who gets takin for a fool again.I've never needed to give out my personal information, and nor would I ever. I had no problems.
Giving up your information is an act of laziness and desperation and hubris. It doesn't give you any credibility nor does it open any doors you couldn't take by smarter means.
Institutions are hacked all the time. Ashley Madison, T-mobile, Scottrade, Target, Democratic National Party, Clinton's private email servers.
Places like NR had shared their information with a lot of persons. Places like TER have given up their clients and hookers at the drop of a hat.
Giving anyone your private information is a mistake. Eventually people do get in trouble and there is a good reason for anything you say can and will be used against you. I say this not to be little or make fun or try to impress. I have seen the consequences of stupid actions.
Eros is a place where anyone even police can advertise. It is a place where people go who aren't privy to better options. Nothing magical or special, you just need the several hundreds of dollars required.
Lies are often more believable and fun and thus we would rather believe in a lie than see the truth that anyone selling themselves is in the same category regardless of where they advertise. Nothing special and it merely leads to ridiculous prices and lower services.
Acoustic53
06-11-17, 12:24
The key is to make it simple and be a pro. Send a note with the circumstances, contact info for ref, how they'll remember you, etc. There are many that don't check refs and don't require them, which isn't to say that lying works, but I'm saying get a ref or two and making it easy on the reviewer shows you're a pro, and many will just go with that.
Have to start somewhere, and there's someone to see that may be able to be used for a ref. Some trust their instincts more than refs so if they trust an email or your voice on the phone you have a shot. P411 shows you're serious about their safety even without referrals.When I first contacted Nikki of darlingnikki. indyfiles.com, she also requested references or P411. All I had was the name and phone number for Jamie, the escort who came to me; plus my UTR girl. But Nikki's main concern seemed to be only that I had some experience seeing escorts; she said she didn't actually contact my references. However, we spoke and texted quite a lot, and exchanged selfies, so that might have swayed her too.
After I had a session or two with her, I asked her about references, and she remarked she that everyone around here "sees the same fifteen girls" in the area. I failed to ask the names and numbers of those fifteen girls, though. Maybe next time.
SanityIsRealit
06-23-17, 10:44
Not true. She is a female for sure. I had more than one appt. Second was better than first but decided to call it quits after a couple dumps. Claimed she was new but seemed to have somebody else answering texts. Also don't care for the extras charge even if it's the same amount as someone who doesn't. I don't like discussing or haggling over services. Its not necessarily just about the price.
Other than that, poster was right. Tiny and not bad looking if size is your thing. I would do her again but prefer to look for better new talent.I liked the part where your first post on this site was defending the provider that you claimed to have multiple visits with instead of having your first posts being reviews of said provider that you claimed to see multiple times.
Poopypants
06-23-17, 12:30
I liked the part where your first post on this site was defending the provider that you claimed to have multiple visits with instead of having your first posts being reviews of said provider that you claimed to see multiple times.Dude, I ain't even defending her. I said she's OK if you're into tiny girls. My main comment was that she is a female. Someone who has no knowledge is posting false info.
I believe when she first started posting I had another review or post about her but had a different member name as I had lost all my login info and email associated with it.
Don't really matter to me. See whoever you want. Don't bother me a bit. I won't repeat again because I've moved on and there is better fish out there.
Member #5483
07-23-17, 16:10
I don't peruse streetwalkers don't see worth risks LEO disease etc but no hate if that's your thing.
Just know that I know DPD friend (yes, regular cops don't give $& about vice) and they say the vice is pressured to fudge LIPIO (loitering in public intending offense ordinance if not bull bleep I don't know what is? A crime before you commit a crime what the fudge minority report) and asset forfeiture is big money for city and with them being insolvent even more pressure. I'd just avoid whole scene only reason LEO cares is money when those same resources could be spent fighting serious addictive drugs like crack, meth, and crocodile (anyone heard about later? It's new drug that gets you high one side effect IT ROTS YOU LIKE LEPEROSY). Sorry rant over be safe.
I don't peruse streetwalkers don't see worth risks LEO disease etc but no hate if that's your thing.
Just know that I know DPD friend (yes, regular cops don't give $& about vice) and they say the vice is pressured to fudge LIPIO (loitering in public intending offense ordinance if not bull bleep I don't know what is? A crime before you commit a crime what the fudge minority report) and asset forfeiture is big money for city and with them being insolvent even more pressure. I'd just avoid whole scene only reason LEO cares is money when those same resources could be spent fighting serious addictive drugs like crack, meth, and crocodile (anyone heard about later? It's new drug that gets you high one side effect IT ROTS YOU LIKE LEPEROSY). Sorry rant over be safe.There was something about it on TV just the other day, man that stuff is messed up.
Member #5483
07-25-17, 23:49
I've never needed to give out my personal information, and nor would I ever. I had no problems.
Giving up your information is an act of laziness and desperation and hubris. It doesn't give you any credibility nor does it open any doors you couldn't take by smarter means.
Institutions are hacked all the time. Ashley Madison, T-mobile, Scottrade, Target, Democratic National Party, Clinton's private email servers.
Places like NR had shared their information with a lot of persons. Places like TER have given up their clients and hookers at the drop of a hat.
Giving anyone your private information is a mistake. Eventually people do get in trouble and there is a good reason for anything you say can and will be used against you. I say this not to be little or make fun or try to impress. I have seen the consequences of stupid actions.
Eros is a place where anyone even police can advertise. It is a place where people go who aren't privy to better options. Nothing magical or special, you just need the several hundreds of dollars required.
Lies are often more believable and fun and thus we would rather believe in a lie than see the truth that anyone selling themselves is in the same category regardless of where they advertise. Nothing special and it merely leads to ridiculous prices and lower services.Brother I said same in post long ago. The whole "courtesan" high class give me you life vitals and I'll call your workplace but hey it's safe is sheer STUPIDITY. I am speaking as friend of LEO who are NOT vice and think it's stupid unless leads to disease etc. And when these high class girls who you can "trust" get busted first thing uncle does is get files / black book or pressure them to roll to extort celebs. Cops can be crooked and into asset forfeiture et al same as organized crime but it's WORSE cause they have color of law and brainwashed media to back their bs. Don't do Eros bullshit OT anything else and be safe bros.
MightyMonger
07-26-17, 21:59
Brother I said same in post long ago. The whole "courtesan" high class give me you life vitals and I'll call your workplace but hey it's safe is sheer STUPIDITY. I am speaking as friend of LEO who are NOT vice and think it's stupid unless leads to disease etc. And when these high class girls who you can "trust" get busted first thing uncle does is get files / black book or pressure them to roll to extort celebs. Cops can be crooked and into asset forfeiture et al same as organized crime but it's WORSE cause they have color of law and brainwashed media to back their bs. Don't do Eros bullshit OT anything else and be safe bros.You are also setting yourself up to be blackmailed. All a provider need is my screen name and two references that are less then a year old.
DetroitBaller
07-26-17, 23:28
I don't peruse streetwalkers don't see worth risks LEO disease etc but no hate if that's your thing.
Just know that I know DPD friend (yes, regular cops don't give $& about vice) and they say the vice is pressured to fudge LIPIO (loitering in public intending offense ordinance if not bull bleep I don't know what is? A crime before you commit a crime what the fudge minority report) and asset forfeiture is big money for city and with them being insolvent even more pressure. I'd just avoid whole scene only reason LEO cares is money when those same resources could be spent fighting serious addictive drugs like crack, meth, and crocodile (anyone heard about later? It's new drug that gets you high one side effect IT ROTS YOU LIKE LEPEROSY). Sorry rant over be safe.It's loitering in a place of illegal occupation.
Member #5483
07-26-17, 23:48
It's loitering in a place of illegal occupation.Yes:'point of post is its money grabbing bs. LEO mind reading in certain area. Before you hate: know a private eye doing legitimate surveillance in points on work comp fraud and went thru living HELL to prove innocent and working so LIPIO is BULLSHIT imo and money grabbing DPD can pound it up ass.
Acoustic53
07-27-17, 01:54
Yes:'point of post is its money grabbing bs. LEO mind reading in certain area. Before you hate: know a private eye doing legitimate surveillance in points on work comp fraud and went thru living HELL to prove innocent and working so LIPIO is BULLSHIT imo and money grabbing DPD can pound it up ass.I had to read this post several times before I thought I understood it correctly. But now that I do, I can add this: the points made are spot-on. The place of "illegal occupation", in case you all were wondering, usually refers to an abandoned house with squatters. My friend Nikki's roommate has been issued at least one citation for LIPIO, the latest one for attending a barbecue hosted on the lawn of an abandoned house. According to the girls, Detroit LEO makes a practice of combing their neighborhood for such activities, and issuing citations when they find likely offenders. Why? Because there are plenty of empty houses, therefore plenty of opportunities, and it's easy pickin's.
DetroitBaller
07-27-17, 02:00
I had to read this post several times before I thought I understood it correctly. But now that I do, I can add this: the points made are spot-on. The place of "illegal occupation", in case you all were wondering, usually refers to an abandoned house with squatters. My friend Nikki's roommate has been issued at least one citation for LIPIO, the latest one for attending a barbecue hosted on the lawn of an abandoned house. According to the girls, Detroit LEO makes a practice of combing their neighborhood for such activities, and issuing citations when they find likely offenders. Why? Because there are plenty of empty houses, therefore plenty of opportunities, and it's easy pickin's.It's mostly used for being in drug houses or in a area known to sell drugs but can be applied for anything they see fit.
DetroitBaller
07-27-17, 03:02
I had to read this post several times before I thought I understood it correctly. But now that I do, I can add this: the points made are spot-on. The place of "illegal occupation", in case you all were wondering, usually refers to an abandoned house with squatters. My friend Nikki's roommate has been issued at least one citation for LIPIO, the latest one for attending a barbecue hosted on the lawn of an abandoned house. According to the girls, Detroit LEO makes a practice of combing their neighborhood for such activities, and issuing citations when they find likely offenders. Why? Because there are plenty of empty houses, therefore plenty of opportunities, and it's easy pickin's.Being caught in Abondon houses and building as long as your not stealing or scrapping usually results with a EWOP ticket which is Entering without permission.
MightyMonger
07-28-17, 19:15
There are no "reliable providers" on BP, just junkies and rip offs. Detroit has reliable providers, they just don't post on BP. You will need references.
I will dispute this statement just a little bit, although we all know it is true for most advertisers; here is one who has been my reliable, formerly UTR Nikki.
http://detroit.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/new-skilled-beauty-f-l-%CE%B1-w-l-%D1%94-s-s-and-r%D1%94%CE%B1l-%D1%94x%D1%82%D1%8F%D1%94%D0%BC%D1%94l%D1%83-%D1%82%CE%B1l%D1%94%D0%B8%D1%82%D1%94d-v%D1%94/33824403
There are plenty of reliable providers on backpage, Nikki is just one of them.
Xircom.
http://detroit.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/new-skilled-beauty-f-l-%CE%B1-w-l-%D1%94-s-s-and-r%D1%94%CE%B1l-%D1%94x%D1%82%D1%8F%D1%94%D0%BC%D1%94l%D1%83-%D1%82%CE%B1l%D1%94%D0%B8%D1%82%D1%94d-v%D1%94/33824403I'm not trying to get into a pissing match with you two but I'll move it here just to keep it off the review thread.
Nikki is a drug addict SW that made her way to BP via a pimp, she is not a reliable escort. I'm not saying she not cute or that she doesn't have skills, I'm just saying she's a typical BP provider that will F you over as soon as her pimp tells her to. Now for the sake of argument lets say she is a reliable provider, that's one. One provider out of the 100 and something that post everyday on BP. Now I'm going to stick to my guns and say there are no reliable providers on BP, just junkies and rip offs. You say there are, so please prove me wrong by posting your top ten providers that post on BP. I'd love to see this list.
MightyMonger
07-28-17, 19:31
Hey guys. Any of you remember the NR "safe" list? I'm thinking of compiling another list. For those of you that aren't that familiar with it I'll fill you in. It's basically a running list that includes ladies that have been met by trusted members and whom they have had a good experience with compared to those that they have not. The idea isn't to give out all of the details but enough so someone could get a general idea of the safety, experience, and what website they can be found at. At the moment I have information on about 20 girls (I've personally seen) and a few details I've gained from trusted members. I would maintain, add, and remove ladies from the list as circumstances change.
What do you guys think?
If you're talking about BP girls, BP isn't NR. NR had professional local escorts, BP has nothing but drugged out, pimped out, fake picture using, trash on it. I'd love to see this list, when do you plan on posting it?
Also the whole "trusted member" thing is going to be very hard to police. Providers like to make monger accounts and self-promote themselves. I know its been a few weeks but does any one remember Heather AKA RainMan2017 or any of her other accounts? And you know damn well shes back again with another monger account.
MiMonger69, I wish you luck but I just don't see it working here like it did on NR, EV, or AES
Good luck with it friend
I understand your points. My intent isn't to create an exclusive BP list. I simply posted in this forum because it seems to be more active. I was looking to create a list that included safe ladies in the industry. I have personally seen ladies from Mysclarlet, BP, eros, other sites. Of these ladies some post in multiple locations or some are exclusive to one site. My intention was to take all the ladies that I have seen and compile a list. The list would include their "stage" name, city or general area they work out in. Additonal criteria for making the determination would be how safe the area was and how clean the provider is.
Therefore to be a trusted lady I was thinking that I would start with the ladies that I have seen and those where multiple mongers message me with their positive or negative experience. The ladies with the most positive feedback will top the list. This list would be fluid because as we all know women come, go, or simply fall to the dark side.
My thought was to create another forum for this discussion (once the initial list is created) then we can have an open and running discussion about the list, who should be added for what reason and who should bo be on the list. Maybe we have a list of providers that have red flags as well.
We all enjoy this hobby to provide ourselves with our god given man needs and everyones circumstances are different but we all deserve to have a safe and healthy experience before we get back to our regular lives.
I am working on the first list and acceptance criteria. If you or anyone would like to message me personally so I can provide a more accurate list then please pm me. This only works if feedback is shared.
Thoughts?Still waiting on your list too MiMonger69, its been a month brother.
I'm not trying to get into a pissing match with you two but I'll move it here just to keep it off the review thread.
Nikki is a drug addict SW that made her way to BP via a pimp, she is not a reliable escort. I'm not saying she not cute or that she doesn't have skills, I'm just saying she's a typical BP provider that will F you over as soon as her pimp tells her to. Now for the sake of argument lets say she is a reliable provider, that's one. One provider out of the 100 and something that post everyday on BP. Now I'm going to stick to my guns and say there are no reliable providers on BP, just junkies and rip offs. You say there are, so please prove me wrong by posting your top ten providers that post on BP. I'd love to see this list.I've seen her several dozen times and had a good experience every time, no hint of drugs or a pimp. Goes out of her way to make me happy. Are we talking about the same Nikki? There's a lot of Nikki's on BP, Have you actually seen her, do you have a photo other than the ones posted? I don't have a top ten list of BP providers, I'm only talking about Nikki. Just saying. Peace.
Xircom.
Forgot link.
Xircom.
http://detroit.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/new-skilled-beauty-f-l-%CE%B1-w-l-%D1%94-s-s-and-r%D1%94%CE%B1l-%D1%94x%D1%82%D1%8F%D1%94%D0%BC%D1%94l%D1%83-%D1%82%CE%B1l%D1%94%D0%B8%D1%82%D1%94d-v%D1%94/33824403
Acoustic53
07-30-17, 21:10
Being caught in Abondon houses and building as long as your not stealing or scrapping usually results with a EWOP ticket which is Entering without permission.Thanks for the reminder! You are correct, Nikki told me about this too, and I had forgotten until you posted.
Acoustic53
07-30-17, 21:34
I've seen her several dozen times and had a good experience every time, no hint of drugs or a pimp. Goes out of her way to make me happy. Are we talking about the same Nikki? There's a lot of Nikki's on BP, Have you actually seen her, do you have a photo other than the ones posted? I don't have a top ten list of BP providers, I'm only talking about Nikki. Just saying. Peace.
Xircom.Agree with Xircom. I have also seen Nikki several dozen times. She does not appear to be a drug addict nor have a pimp. And she treats me very well.
I believe you might be confusing her with another Nikki. It is a common name. Several members have PM'd me, asking if she is this or that Nikki from John are, with the wrong age, hair, body type, ethnicity, etc.
As for my top ten BP providers. There isn't such a list, because I quit (mostly) using BP since I found Nikki. You are not wrong to say most BP providers are unreliable; in my very limited experience, most of BP providers are not the girl pictured in the ad, or not available when they say, or not available at all. And that is why I continue to see Nikki. I know what to expect with her. And we get along. I'm comfortable with her.
MightyMonger
07-31-17, 18:49
Agree with Xircom. I have also seen Nikki several dozen times. She does not appear to be a drug addict nor have a pimp. And she treats me very well.
I believe you might be confusing her with another Nikki. It is a common name. Several members have PM'd me, asking if she is this or that Nikki from John are, with the wrong age, hair, body type, ethnicity, etc.
As for my top ten BP providers. There isn't such a list, because I quit (mostly) using BP since I found Nikki. You are not wrong to say most BP providers are unreliable; in my very limited experience, most of BP providers are not the girl pictured in the ad, or not available when they say, or not available at all. And that is why I continue to see Nikki. I know what to expect with her. And we get along. I'm comfortable with her.I'm talking about the same Nikki you posted about picking up on Grand River in the Triangle, the same one that's in this BP ad. After you first posted about her I found her for myself on Grand River by the veterinary hospital with her pimp in tow. Do I need to quote your posts in the SW thread?
http://detroit.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/new-skilled-beauty-f-l-%CE%B1-w-l-%D1%94-s-s-and-r%D1%94%CE%B1l-%D1%94x%D1%82%D1%8F%D1%94%D0%BC%D1%94l%D1%83-%D1%82%CE%B1l%D1%94%D0%B8%D1%82%D1%94d-v%D1%94/33824403
This isn't about Nikki, its about BP being nothing but bad news when it comes to escorts. You said, and I quote, "I will dispute this statement just a little bit, although we all know it is true for most advertisers; here is one who has been my reliable, formerly UTR Nikki," so please prove me wrong by posting a list of reliable providers. With over a 100 posts per day on BP Nikki is less then 1%. I'm sure you and XirCom click real well with her, all I'm trying to do is warn you and others to be careful, it can go South as soon as her pimp tells her to get over on you. Time will always tell what type of provider she is, drugs, pimp, etc.
Good luck, play safe, and I'd still love to see your top 10 list of BP providers, hell a top 5 list will even do.
MightyMonger
07-31-17, 19:00
I've seen her several dozen times and had a good experience every time, no hint of drugs or a pimp. Goes out of her way to make me happy. Are we talking about the same Nikki? There's a lot of Nikki's on BP, Have you actually seen her, do you have a photo other than the ones posted?I don't have a top ten list of BP providers, I'm only talking about Nikki. Just saying. Peace.
Xircom.If Nikki's the only reliable girl you know from BP then why would you say, and I quote, "there are plenty of reliable providers on backpage?" When you post bogus info like this it can get someone in serious trouble. BP is a very dangerous avenue of the hobby, there are NOT reliable, safe, professional, escorts on that site.
Hobby safe XirCom
Acoustic53
08-01-17, 01:13
I'm talking about the same Nikki you posted about picking up on Grand River in the Triangle, the same one that's in this BP ad. After you first posted about her I found her for myself on Grand River by the veterinary hospital with her pimp in tow. Do I need to quote your posts in the SW thread?
http://detroit.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/new-skilled-beauty-f-l-%CE%B1-w-l-%D1%94-s-s-and-r%D1%94%CE%B1l-%D1%94x%D1%82%D1%8F%D1%94%D0%BC%D1%94l%D1%83-%D1%82%CE%B1l%D1%94%D0%B8%D1%82%D1%94d-v%D1%94/33824403
This isn't about Nikki, its about BP being nothing but bad news when it comes to escorts. You said, and I quote, "I will dispute this statement just a little bit, although we all know it is true for most advertisers; here is one who has been my reliable, formerly UTR Nikki," so please prove me wrong by posting a list of reliable providers. With over a 100 posts per day on BP Nikki is less then 1%. I'm sure you and XirCom click real well with her, all I'm trying to do is warn you and others to be careful, it can go South as soon as her pimp tells her to get over on you. Time will always tell what type of provider she is, drugs, pimp, etc.
Good luck, play safe, and I'd still love to see your top 10 list of BP providers, hell a top 5 list will even do.I'm not disputing that most ads on BP are from unreliable sources. And I never said I had a top ten list. And we all appreciate the timely reminders that BP is the Wild West, so no one should let their guard down.
I am very interested in learning more about this person you say is her pimp. How do you know?
MetroRider
08-01-17, 19:48
I will dispute this statement just a little bit, although we all know it is true for most advertisers; here is one who has been my reliable, formerly UTR Nikki.
http://detroit.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/new-skilled-beauty-f-l-%CE%B1-w-l-%D1%94-s-s-and-r%D1%94%CE%B1l-%D1%94x%D1%82%D1%8F%D1%94%D0%BC%D1%94l%D1%83-%D1%82%CE%B1l%D1%94%D0%B8%D1%82%D1%94d-v%D1%94/33824403
I'm not disputing that most ads on BP are from unreliable sources. And I never said I had a top ten list. And we all appreciate the timely reminders that BP is the Wild West, so no one should let their guard down.
I am very interested in learning more about this person you say is her pimp. How do you know?Really, sure looks like you were disputing it. You and XirCom both challenged MM statement about BP being a joke when it comes to providers (and it is IMO) just so you (and XirCom) could cheerlead for your ATF Nikki. You and XirCom both claimed that there are plenty of reliable providers on BP, but when asked to put up or shut up you couldn't provide a list of your favorite BP providers. Can you even name two other providers besides Nikki that are reliable?
As far as Nikki having a pimp, let me ask you this. Do you really think that a 20 yo girl wakes up one morning and just decides to start selling pussy, or did some dude talk her into it? Also think about where this girl lives (at the corner of crack and murder), you really think she lives there with her roommate? Good god guys use some common sense.
HookerLover
08-01-17, 23:18
Really, sure looks like you were disputing it. You and XirCom both challenged MM statement about BP being a joke when it comes to providers (and it is IMO) just so you (and XirCom) could cheerlead for your ATF Nikki. You and XirCom both claimed that there are plenty of reliable providers on BP, but when asked to put up or shut up you couldn't provide a list of your favorite BP providers. Can you even name two other providers besides Nikki that are reliable?
As far as Nikki having a pimp, let me ask you this. Do you really think that a 20 yo girl wakes up one morning and just decides to start selling pussy, or did some dude talk her into it? Also think about where this girl lives (at the corner of crack and murder), you really think she lives there with her roommate? Good god guys use some common sense.And the fact that they think this girl is clean. None of these girls are clean!! Not sure why we have to keep going over that. Just because you don't see any signs of use, doesn't mean she is not using. Most girls are very good at hiding it. Until they are so deep that they can't hide it anymore. This isn't most girls, it's all girls. Doesn't have to be heroin, but even any type of pills, these girls are all abusing something. Especially when they live in a shady neighborhood. Not sure why we keep trying to fool ourselves.
Acoustic53
08-02-17, 00:32
Really, sure looks like you were disputing it. You and XirCom both challenged MM statement about BP being a joke when it comes to providers (and it is IMO) just so you (and XirCom) could cheerlead for your ATF Nikki. You and XirCom both claimed that there are plenty of reliable providers on BP, but when asked to put up or shut up you couldn't provide a list of your favorite BP providers. Can you even name two other providers besides Nikki that are reliable?
As far as Nikki having a pimp, let me ask you this. Do you really think that a 20 yo girl wakes up one morning and just decides to start selling pussy, or did some dude talk her into it? Also think about where this girl lives (at the corner of crack and murder), you really think she lives there with her roommate? Good god guys use some common sense.Thank you for your feedback, Mr. MetroRider.
1. I disagree that ALL BP advertisers are unreliable. I agree that MOST BP advertisers are unreliable.
2. Never did I claim to know "plenty of reliable providers". I don't know about the rest of you, but I haven't the funds, time, nor interest, to patronize 10+ different BP providers often enough to determine whether they are reliable. I could name two or three other providers from the past, but they are long gone (AFAIK), so there's no point.
3. Actually, Nikki woke up to this life at 18; and yes, it is just possible she arrived at this decision without the help (or coercion) of some other person. I take it that your assertion is every provider on BP, and every SW has a pimp. I've yet to see evidence of one. And yes, I have encountered other providers with pimps, and they tend to make their presence known quickly.
4. Yes, she actually lives there, but also goes back to her family frequently.
Are there inconsistencies in her story? Sure there are. Do I believe everything she tells me? No, just as I don't believe everything I read on this forum, either. Is her neighborhood unsafe? I think it is no more unsafe than any of these "notels" where forum members describe meeting a provider for the first time, and finding uninvited guests behind door #1, or LE awaiting in the parking lot; or "car dates" on some side street.
But, hey, since this topic is causing so much friction, I'll stop posting about it, and about her as well.
Acoustic53
08-02-17, 00:34
And the fact that they think this girl is clean. None of these girls are clean!! Not sure why we have to keep going over that. Just because you don't see any signs of use, doesn't mean she is not using. Most girls are very good at hiding it. Until they are so deep that they can't hide it anymore. This isn't most girls, it's all girls. Doesn't have to be heroin, but even any type of pills, these girls are all abusing something. Especially when they live in a shady neighborhood. Not sure why we keep trying to fool ourselves.You present a good argument against anyone using their services.
MetroRider
08-04-17, 19:25
Prositution is illegal. But porn is not. Video the event and a have script. Then when money is exchanged no crime.Its one thing if you want to get yourself in trouble, but when you post garbage like this that can get others in trouble, someone needs to point out just how dumb you are. Please know what you're talking about before you start typing next time.
MetroRider
08-04-17, 19:29
Thank you for your feedback, Mr. MetroRider.
1. I disagree that ALL BP advertisers are unreliable. I agree that MOST BP advertisers are unreliable.
2. Never did I claim to know "plenty of reliable providers". I don't know about the rest of you, but I haven't the funds, time, nor interest, to patronize 10+ different BP providers often enough to determine whether they are reliable. I could name two or three other providers from the past, but they are long gone (AFAIK), so there's no point.
3. Actually, Nikki woke up to this life at 18; and yes, it is just possible she arrived at this decision without the help (or coercion) of some other person. I take it that your assertion is every provider on BP, and every SW has a pimp. I've yet to see evidence of one. And yes, I have encountered other providers with pimps, and they tend to make their presence known quickly.
4. Yes, she actually lives there, but also goes back to her family frequently.
Are there inconsistencies in her story? Sure there are. Do I believe everything she tells me? No, just as I don't believe everything I read on this forum, either. Is her neighborhood unsafe? I think it is no more unsafe than any of these "notels" where forum members describe meeting a provider for the first time, and finding uninvited guests behind door #1, or LE awaiting in the parking lot; or "car dates" on some side street.
But, hey, since this topic is causing so much friction, I'll stop posting about it, and about her as well.I still think you have your head in the sand, but at least you were man enough to reply unlike XirCom. I give Nikki another 90 days before the shit hits the fan.
Be safe.
BoneHead8899
08-05-17, 23:26
Its one thing if you want to get yourself in trouble, but when you post garbage like this that can get others in trouble, someone needs to point out just how dumb you are. Please know what you're talking about before you start typing next time.This is from a law professor. The legal line between Porn and Prostitution. If, however, both members of the couple are in it for the money, and there is a man with a camera taping them, then the sex in insulated by the by the Constitution from legal regulations. This is a fact in law. Sherry F. Colb finflaw.com / Professor at Rutgers Law School www.awo.com This defense was used in New York Federal Court. Also if a undercover says $ 100 for a 1/2 hr. A defense can be no sex act was discussed. Adult can do any thing with there time. This comes from a lawyer as well.
MetroRider
08-06-17, 19:23
This is from a law professor. The legal line between Porn and Prostitution. If, however, both members of the couple are in it for the money, and there is a man with a camera taping them, then the sex in insulated by the by the Constitution from legal regulations. This is a fact in law. Sherry F. Colb finflaw.com / Professor at Rutgers Law School www.awo.com This defense was used in New York Federal Court. Also if a undercover says $ 100 for a 1/2 hr. A defense can be no sex act was discussed. Adult can do any thing with there time. This comes from a lawyer as well.I'm not saying that porn isn't legal, what I'm saying is, if you try telling a judge this you are going to insult his / her intelligence. This would be like saying I was just asking for directions. You do not want to piss the judge of with some BS lie.
If, however, both members of the couple are in it for the money, and there is a man with a camera taping them, then the sex in insulated by the by the Constitution from legal regulations.I'm not an attorney but I do have some common sense. Do you really think you're the first person to think of this? This is just as bad as those disclaimers that say "by contacting me you agree not to be affiliated with law enforcement." There are so many variables that come into play here, like what are you going to do if the judge asks to see the contract? If you're paying her to make a porn video I'm sure there still needs to be a contract even if its amateur porn (you need her consent to do whatever with the video). You need to know her legal name, her age (got to make sure she's 18), how much you're paying her (she needs to pay her taxes), do you have proof of STD testing, the list goes on and on.
Also what if LE gets a statement from the provider? A lot of times LE will tell the provider if she makes a statement saying what "you" did or said they (LE) will let her go or reduce the charges. Are you still going to tell the judge you're a porn producer when he / she (the judge) reads the statement to you that the provider made saying you solicited her?
If this is the story you want to tell the judge, fine. I'm just telling you he / she is going to rip it apart. Again, you do not want to piss off the judge by insulting his / her intelligence with some BS lie.
If it were as easy as saying "I'm making a porn movie" there would never be another solicitation conviction in the US again. Your honor, I wasn't soliciting that known SW, I was holding open auditions in the back seat of my car.
TBYT (think before you type).
MetroRider
08-07-17, 18:55
Thank you for your feedback, Mr. MetroRider.
1. I disagree that ALL BP advertisers are unreliable. I agree that MOST BP advertisers are unreliable.
2. Never did I claim to know "plenty of reliable providers". I don't know about the rest of you, but I haven't the funds, time, nor interest, to patronize 10+ different BP providers often enough to determine whether they are reliable. I could name two or three other providers from the past, but they are long gone (AFAIK), so there's no point.
3. Actually, Nikki woke up to this life at 18; and yes, it is just possible she arrived at this decision without the help (or coercion) of some other person. I take it that your assertion is every provider on BP, and every SW has a pimp. I've yet to see evidence of one. And yes, I have encountered other providers with pimps, and they tend to make their presence known quickly.
4. Yes, she actually lives there, but also goes back to her family frequently.
Are there inconsistencies in her story? Sure there are. Do I believe everything she tells me? No, just as I don't believe everything I read on this forum, either. Is her neighborhood unsafe? I think it is no more unsafe than any of these "notels" where forum members describe meeting a provider for the first time, and finding uninvited guests behind door #1, or LE awaiting in the parking lot; or "car dates" on some side street.
But, hey, since this topic is causing so much friction, I'll stop posting about it, and about her as well.Well that lasted all of 6 hours and 20 minutes before you went right back into White-Knight mode. Acoustic53, you seem like the type of monger that gets feelings for the providers he sees, that can be very dangerous my man.
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?8148-BackPage-Advertiser-Reviews&p=3494028#post3494028
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?8148-BackPage-Advertiser-Reviews&p=3499332&viewfull=1#post3499332
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?8148-BackPage-Advertiser-Reviews&p=3499122&viewfull=1#post3499122
MightyMonger
08-07-17, 22:23
This is from a law professor. The legal line between Porn and Prostitution. If, however, both members of the couple are in it for the money, and there is a man with a camera taping them, then the sex in insulated by the by the Constitution from legal regulations. This is a fact in law. Sherry F. Colb finflaw.com / Professor at Rutgers Law School www.awo.com This defense was used in New York Federal Court. Also if a undercover says $ 100 for a 1/2 hr. A defense can be no sex act was discussed. Adult can do any thing with there time. This comes from a lawyer as well.BoneHead8899, you need to "talk" to a local attorney, not just read some text on a website that's meant to help you find a attorney anywhere in the US. Your porn idea will not work.
This is a perfect example of a post that should be taken with a grain of salt. Bad info like this could get someone in real hot water.
MightyMonger
08-07-17, 22:33
Well that lasted all of 6 hours and 20 minutes before you went right back into White-Knight mode. Acoustic53, you seem like the type of monger that gets feelings for the providers he sees, that can be very dangerous my man.
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?8148-BackPage-Advertiser-Reviews&p=3494028#post3494028
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?8148-BackPage-Advertiser-Reviews&p=3499332&viewfull=1#post3499332
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?8148-BackPage-Advertiser-Reviews&p=3499122&viewfull=1#post3499122No that's funny you actually did the math, he couldn't even go 8 hours without talking about his ATF Nikki. Acoustic53, you're in for a world of hurt my friend when you fall in love with a hooker.
Be careful.
BoneHead8899, you need to "talk" to a local attorney, not just read some text on a website that's meant to help you find a attorney anywhere in the US. Your porn idea will not work.
This is a perfect example of a post that should be taken with a grain of salt. Bad info like this could get someone in real hot water.MM, wait please don't discourage Mr. Bonehead's ingenuity and adventurousness. Mr. Bonehead seems to have 'gamed the system' a bit quicker and more thoroughly than the rest of us. So please give it a try since you're confident enough to recommend your 'scheme' to other poor saps, perhaps you will the first to try it out! Don't forget when TOFTT, we all will be waiting for a glowing report of your mastery of the judicial system.
CarlossPicYw
08-08-17, 00:30
This is from a law professor. The legal line between Porn and Prostitution. If, however, both members of the couple are in it for the money, and there is a man with a camera taping them, then the sex in insulated by the by the Constitution from legal regulations. This is a fact in law. Sherry F. Colb finflaw.com / Professor at Rutgers Law School www.awo.com This defense was used in New York Federal Court. Also if a undercover says $ 100 for a 1/2 hr. A defense can be no sex act was discussed. Adult can do any thing with there time. This comes from a lawyer as well.I can't emphasize how wrong this is. Literally any 2nd-year law student will tell you that this is all wrong. Solicitation is not a federal offense, so the Constitution never comes into play. These are state offenses. Beyond that, there's no "New York Federal Court. " There are federal District Courts in the state of New York, but there is no all-encompassing "New York Federal Court. ".
There is no magical work-around or key phrases that will enable you to escape after being caught in the act. Pretending otherwise is foolish and dangerous.
Acoustic53
08-08-17, 15:00
No that's funny you actually did the math, he couldn't even go 8 hours without talking about his ATF Nikki. Acoustic53, you're in for a world of hurt my friend when you fall in love with a hooker.
Be careful.Thank you both for your advice and concern! I do appreciate it. Rest assured I am not drawing hearts and flowers in my spiral notebook next to poems written to "Mrs. Nikki Acoustic", LOL. Now, I have to get back to watching "Pretty Woman" for the ninety-second time.
This is from a law professor. The legal line between Porn and Prostitution. If, however, both members of the couple are in it for the money, and there is a man with a camera taping them, then the sex in insulated by the by the Constitution from legal regulations. This is a fact in law. Sherry F. Colb finflaw.com / Professor at Rutgers Law School www.awo.com This defense was used in New York Federal Court. Also if a undercover says $ 100 for a 1/2 hr. A defense can be no sex act was discussed. Adult can do any thing with there time. This comes from a lawyer as well.1) NY / NJ, CA, and FL are not the rest of the country. They're very different. Some of those places it is actually legal in some ways.
2) Everyone else gave you good points, but, what is the name of your company? Do you have the appropriate licenses? Have you met all local laws for recordkeeping? Dude, have you ever watched a porn? Even small stars have a disclaimer showing where they have records.
3) Where are you doing it? A hotel? Did your company get permission from their company?
It seems you googled until you found someone who would support you. I assure you if you spent more than 5 minutes looking you would have found that just about no state / localities have passed a judgement on if it is legal. Which means that it's not the black and white. It's grey. And given I don't think you're a multimillionaire that wants to be the test case and no one is going to defend you for free, I guarantee you'll be charged and you will lose.
If you're not familiar, our court system is not based on words written in stature. It's based on power and money. You're going to lose dude.
Finally, law professors are not the A students, so do more research than finding one NY professor. Those who can not do teach applies to lawyers too.
Thank you both for your advice and concern! I do appreciate it. Rest assured I am not drawing hearts and flowers in my spiral notebook next to poems written to "Mrs. Nikki Acoustic", LOL. Now, I have to get back to watching "Pretty Woman" for the ninety-second time.That's pretty funny.
MetroRider
08-09-17, 20:23
She doesn't get high any more. Well she changed the substance. She's just drunk now. Catch her early in the shift and she's fine. After every drink and trip to the VIP she gets drunker. But she's not buying the drinks so she should have plenty of money. She dresses well too. $200 air jordans on her feet. I have never had a dance from her but we talk sometimes.White-Knight table for one.
Dude, do always believe what a stripper tells you? I'm telling you she was nodding out. Something tells me you bought her those Jordans and didn't even hit it, am I right?
MetroRider
08-09-17, 20:31
Thank you both for your advice and concern! I do appreciate it. Rest assured I am not drawing hearts and flowers in my spiral notebook next to poems written to "Mrs. Nikki Acoustic", LOL. Now, I have to get back to watching "Pretty Woman" for the ninety-second time.There you go BoneHead8899, if you ever get busted (and I'm sure you will) just say you're doing research for a sequel to the movie Pretty Woman.
I recently made a post in the craigslist section, I found a girls ad and she was in my area and I'd never seen her or her ad before. I wrote about the experience only to demonstrate that there are a few gems out there. This girl ran her ad for all of about 5 minutes before it was flagged and has not re posted it. I actually asked about sharing her info with some friends and she asked me not to do that because she lives with her dad and he will be back from vacation in a few days, she said she does not actively do this for a living, but since dadday was out of town she thought why not. Well immediatly I get called out by another member who claims he knows who it is based on the fact I mentioned she had a tan and lived in a trailer park LOL. Pretty arrogant of him to think he knows everything there is to know about every girl out there. He then proceeded to lecture me via pm about "safe sex" as if I needed his advice, even claiming I was contaminating the pussy pool. LOL I guess he missed the part that this is a girl that does not normaly do this and what I do with my dick is my business. Either way I was repremended for argumentative post but he was not. Even thought eh very nature of his first comment was designed to argue my claim. I tried to report his argumentative post and recieved an email from the admin stating the other member wasnt being argumentative but rather comparing notes and told me I should appease him. The spirit of my post was was reccognized by another member but since I wouldn't name the girl I guess a few were jealous. Going forward it will be difficult for me to report anything or review anyone, I think ill lurk a while and see how it goes. Too bad I feel I have contributed quite a bit over the years to this site.
I recently made a post in the craigslist section, I found a girls ad and she was in my area and I'd never seen her or her ad before. I wrote about the experience only to demonstrate that there are a few gems out there. This girl ran her ad for all of about 5 minutes before it was flagged and has not re posted it. I actually asked about sharing her info with some friends and she asked me not to do that because she lives with her dad and he will be back from vacation in a few days, she said she does not actively do this for a living, but since dadday was out of town she thought why not. Well immediatly I get called out by another member who claims he knows who it is based on the fact I mentioned she had a tan and lived in a trailer park LOL. Pretty arrogant of him to think he knows everything there is to know about every girl out there. He then proceeded to lecture me via pm about "safe sex" as if I needed his advice, even claiming I was contaminating the pussy pool. LOL I guess he missed the part that this is a girl that does not normaly do this and what I do with my dick is my business. Either way I was repremended for argumentative post but he was not. Even thought eh very nature of his first comment was designed to argue my claim. I tried to report his argumentative post and recieved an email from the admin stating the other member wasnt being argumentative but rather comparing notes and told me I should appease him. The spirit of my post was was reccognized by another member but since I wouldn't name the girl I guess a few were jealous. Going forward it will be difficult for me to report anything or review anyone, I think ill lurk a while and see how it goes. Too bad I feel I have contributed quite a bit over the years to this site.When you make it about the site then you invite my comment.
When somebody ADDS information to a post even if that info contradicts yours they are not necessarily arguing, his original post wasn't douchey, it was informative.
THEN he offered to work it out through PM's AND remove his post if he was wrong but that wasn't good enough for you.
Soooo really, the only thing that has changed on the forum is drama queens can't vomit all over the place because their sensitivity selector is set way too fucking high.
A2.
I recently made a post in the craigslist section, I found a girls ad and she was in my area and I'd never seen her or her ad before. I wrote about the experience only to demonstrate that there are a few gems out there. This girl ran her ad for all of about 5 minutes before it was flagged and has not re posted it. I actually asked about sharing her info with some friends and she asked me not to do that because she lives with her dad and he will be back from vacation in a few days, she said she does not actively do this for a living, but since dadday was out of town she thought why not. Well immediatly I get called out by another member who claims he knows who it is based on the fact I mentioned she had a tan and lived in a trailer park LOL. Pretty arrogant of him to think he knows everything there is to know about every girl out there. He then proceeded to lecture me via pm about "safe sex" as if I needed his advice, even claiming I was contaminating the pussy pool. LOL I guess he missed the part that this is a girl that does not normaly do this and what I do with my dick is my business. Either way I was repremended for argumentative post but he was not. Even thought eh very nature of his first comment was designed to argue my claim. I tried to report his argumentative post and recieved an email from the admin stating the other member wasnt being argumentative but rather comparing notes and told me I should appease him. The spirit of my post was was reccognized by another member but since I wouldn't name the girl I guess a few were jealous. Going forward it will be difficult for me to report anything or review anyone, I think ill lurk a while and see how it goes. Too bad I feel I have contributed quite a bit over the years to this site.Definitely a bad tone on here lately. Lots of wanting to call each other out.
MetroRider
08-13-17, 21:32
I recently made a post in the craigslist section, I found a girls ad and she was in my area and I'd never seen her or her ad before. I wrote about the experience only to demonstrate that there are a few gems out there. This girl ran her ad for all of about 5 minutes before it was flagged and has not re posted it. I actually asked about sharing her info with some friends and she asked me not to do that because she lives with her dad and he will be back from vacation in a few days, she said she does not actively do this for a living, but since dadday was out of town she thought why not. Well immediatly I get called out by another member who claims he knows who it is based on the fact I mentioned she had a tan and lived in a trailer park LOL. Pretty arrogant of him to think he knows everything there is to know about every girl out there. He then proceeded to lecture me via pm about "safe sex" as if I needed his advice, even claiming I was contaminating the pussy pool. LOL I guess he missed the part that this is a girl that does not normaly do this and what I do with my dick is my business. Either way I was repremended for argumentative post but he was not. Even thought eh very nature of his first comment was designed to argue my claim. I tried to report his argumentative post and recieved an email from the admin stating the other member wasnt being argumentative but rather comparing notes and told me I should appease him. The spirit of my post was was reccognized by another member but since I wouldn't name the girl I guess a few were jealous. Going forward it will be difficult for me to report anything or review anyone, I think ill lurk a while and see how it goes. Too bad I feel I have contributed quite a bit over the years to this site.Ohh nooo, how will we survive without the drama queen!
MetroRider
08-19-17, 11:09
I'm amazed at a number of cheap asses there are around here. Complaining about paying a cover charge, VIP tax, or even giving the bathroom attendant a couple of bucks. It's the hobby, it costs money to play! If tipping the bouncer 10 bucks is going to break you then maybe you need to take up a new hobby. I'm not saying I got money coming out my ass, but we're talking about 10 dollars.
Come on.
MetroRider
08-19-17, 11:43
Had another visit with the ever popular Nikki. Pretty much the same experience as the first time. Very accommodating, sweet girl. Very smart, college material, and a bit feisty. She hasn't moved yet since she has not saved enough money to make the move. She needs to get out of the hood, though the way she describes it the neighbors are watching out for each other. In any case if she was closer and had a better arrangement I'd be a regular but as it is I have to go quite a bit out of my way to arrange something. But she's trim, perky, and everything you'd expect from a 20 year old With nice tits. Here's a much better picture of her.
C.
Nikki has moved.
Out of her former house in Detroit to a new location that is much quieter and safer, with a fenced backyard, and conveniently located near the freeway, which should allay concerns some members expressed recently about her former location.
Also, she broke her phone and replaced it, but was able to transfer only a quarter of her contacts to the new phone; so if you were a contact of hers, you may need to remind her who you are the next time you call or text. Her number remains unchanged. PM me if you need her number again.Acoustic53, now you're posting bogus info just to help out your ATF.
Even if Nikki does move she's not going to move to the suburbs, she going to stay in the ghetto with her drug dealing pimp.
Moving from the corner of Crack and Murder to the corner of Ghetto and Gang isn't going to make it any safer.
MightyMonger
08-19-17, 13:12
Acoustic53, now you're posting bogus info just to help out your ATF.I concur. Acoustic53, your love for Nikki is getting to be a bit much.
Acoustic53
08-20-17, 08:00
Acoustic53, now you're posting bogus info just to help out your ATF.
Even if Nikki does move she's not going to move to the suburbs, she going to stay in the ghetto with her drug dealing pimp.
Moving from the corner of Crack and Murder to the corner of Ghetto and Gang isn't going to make it any safer.I simply reported what she told me. I saw her early in the morning the day she said she was moving, and her clothing was packed. Clearly, she was planning to move. My mistake -- for believing and posting that. I'll be more circumspect in the future.
Acoustic53
08-20-17, 08:03
I concur. Acoustic53, your love for Nikki is getting to be a bit much.My apologies.
MightyMonger
08-20-17, 21:33
Definitely a bad tone on here lately. Lots of wanting to call each other out.Jack, I'd like to get your opinion on something. Is it a good thing or a bad thing when someone calls out Heather for having a monger account here?
Should I just let it be or do we as men need to know she's here and posting BS?
HungaryMan
08-21-17, 19:56
Jack, I'd like to get your opinion on something. Is it a good thing or a bad thing when someone calls out Heather for having a monger account here?
Should I just let it be or do we as men need to know she's here and posting BS?Isn't the reason why we are here posting info to add some semblance of information used to make good choices in this potentially dangerous hobby. Call a spade a spade.
(my. 02).
LuckyDude24
08-21-17, 20:45
Isn't the reason why we are here posting info to add some semblance of information used to make good choices in this potentially dangerous hobby. Call a spade a spade.
(my. 02).In the spirit of calling a spade a spade, no one has ever been more wrong in using this speculation as an example.
Cumulatively hundreds of posts written by a male. Having knowledge of a person doesn't make you that person. Choose the simplest explaination. He was a regular of Heather's, perhaps a quasi SugarDaddy.
Jack, I'd like to get your opinion on something. Is it a good thing or a bad thing when someone calls out Heather for having a monger account here?
Should I just let it be or do we as men need to know she's here and posting BS?I don't think your question has anything to do with my comment to Tommy. My comment was about the "jumping down people's throat" tone that seems to be the MO of a some members lately. I don't believe that Tommy was talking about heather.
If your asking me if I think you should call out a poster that you think is heather (or any other provider posting as a hobbyist), I would say that you should report that member to the admin with your suspicions and reason why you think that poster is really a hobbyist in disguise. The risk of you calling someone out is that you may be wrong and you then turn your suspicions into a witch hunt without facts. Admin should have access to more information than you have and be able to investigate your suspicions.
I don't think your question has anything to do with my comment to Tommy. My comment was about the "jumping down people's throat" tone that seems to be the MO of a some members lately. I don't believe that Tommy was talking about heather.
If your asking me if I think you should call out a poster that you think is heather (or any other provider posting as a hobbyist), I would say that you should report that member to the admin with your suspicions and reason why you think that poster is really a hobbyist in disguise. The risk of you calling someone out is that you may be wrong and you then turn your suspicions into a witch hunt without facts. Admin should have access to more information than you have and be able to investigate your suspicions.I've seen Heather. Won't see her again because of her flakiness and she's unreliable. There is a ton of posts about her and if you read half of them you're going to have a pretty darn good idea of what to expect. She or a he on her behalf coming on here and trying to paint a different picture shouldn't make much difference one way or the other. Many ladies have their white knights and they're not that hard to pick out. A lady posting about herself shouldn't be that hard to spot either. I do agree, however, that you can handle these matters with a little less vitriol.
SanityIsRealit
08-22-17, 14:32
I recently made a post in the craigslist section, I found a girls ad and she was in my area and I'd never seen her or her ad before. I wrote about the experience only to demonstrate that there are a few gems out there. This girl ran her ad for all of about 5 minutes before it was flagged and has not re posted it. I actually asked about sharing her info with some friends and she asked me not to do that because she lives with her dad and he will be back from vacation in a few days, she said she does not actively do this for a living, but since dadday was out of town she thought why not. Well immediatly I get called out by another member who claims he knows who it is based on the fact I mentioned she had a tan and lived in a trailer park LOL. Pretty arrogant of him to think he knows everything there is to know about every girl out there. He then proceeded to lecture me via pm about "safe sex" as if I needed his advice, even claiming I was contaminating the pussy pool. LOL I guess he missed the part that this is a girl that does not normaly do this and what I do with my dick is my business. Either way I was repremended for argumentative post but he was not. Even thought eh very nature of his first comment was designed to argue my claim. I tried to report his argumentative post and recieved an email from the admin stating the other member wasnt being argumentative but rather comparing notes and told me I should appease him. The spirit of my post was was reccognized by another member but since I wouldn't name the girl I guess a few were jealous. Going forward it will be difficult for me to report anything or review anyone, I think ill lurk a while and see how it goes. Too bad I feel I have contributed quite a bit over the years to this site.My apologies, as I just saw this post (figured it would be posted in the CL section where this whole thing originated). I'm only going to respond to this once, as I don't want to beat a dead horse and I think this could be a lesson learned for other members here.
Yes, I did jump on your post because your description was very coincidental to a woman I met on CL recently as well. Contrary to your statement of me saying she was the same woman "just because she was tan and lived in a trailer park", her age range, body type, the experience you had, and the description of the area were an exact match to the woman I met. 99 times out of 100, it would be the same woman. However since it raised such a stink with you and there was a small chance I could be wrong, I offered to compare notes and clear it up via PM for the benefit of the board. If I was wrong, I would humbly apologize for the mix up and remove my original post.
As of today I received one response from you, in which you didn't make an attempt to cooperate, called me jealous, and told me to f**k off. At that point I realized that this wouldn't get settled, sent you a reply voicing my disappointment, and moved on (until today when I first saw you would rather bring drama to this board instead of settling it privately). My intentions were not to slander anyone, but to simply add information about a woman that may be unsafe to other members. If that earns me the title of being jealous or a jerk for my post, I'll gladly take that mantle rather than the weight of guilt from a member who was harmed as an indirect result of information I had, but chose not to share on the site.
If you want to play the martyr and "lay low and not post reviews", you are merely adding fuel to the fire withholding.
Information that could keep other members safe. I've been called out on my reviews before and I'm certainly not above posting information that I thought was fact, but was otherwise proven false. Admin is 100% when he said that we're all taking these posts personally and letting it get in the way of the goals of this board.
Simply put, I offered you a chance to rectify our disagreement via PM and prove me wrong. Not only did you not take that opportunity, you brought more drama to the board, and your threat of sitting on the bench and withholding information only increases the risk in an already risky hobby.
This will be the one and only response I have for this. I hope you reconsider your stance for the safety of the members of this board.
My apologies, as I just saw this post (figured it would be posted in the CL section where this whole thing originated). I'm only going to respond to this once, as I don't want to beat a dead horse and I think this could be a lesson learned for other members here.
Yes, I did jump on your post because your description was very coincidental to a woman I met on CL recently as well. Contrary to your statement of me saying she was the same woman "just because she was tan and lived in a trailer park", her age range, body type, the experience you had, and the description of the area were an exact match to the woman I met. 99 times out of 100, it would be the same woman. However since it raised such a stink with you and there was a small chance I could be wrong, I offered to compare notes and clear it up via PM for the benefit of the board. If I was wrong, I would humbly apologize for the mix up and remove my original post.
As of today I received one response from you, in which you didn't make an attempt to cooperate, called me jealous, and told me to f**k off. At that point I realized that this wouldn't get settled, sent you a reply voicing my disappointment, and moved on (until today when I first saw you would rather bring drama to this board instead of settling it privately). My intentions were not to slander anyone, but to simply add information about a woman that may be unsafe to other members. If that earns me the title of being jealous or a jerk for my post, I'll gladly take that mantle rather than the weight of guilt from a member who was harmed as an indirect result of information I had, but chose not to share on the site.
If you want to play the martyr and "lay low and not post reviews", you are merely adding fuel to the fire withholding.
Information that could keep other members safe. I've been called out on my reviews before and I'm certainly not above posting information that I thought was fact, but was otherwise proven false. Admin is 100% when he said that we're all taking these posts personally and letting it get in the way of the goals of this board.
Simply put, I offered you a chance to rectify our disagreement via PM and prove me wrong. Not only did you not take that opportunity, you brought more drama to the board, and your threat of sitting on the bench and withholding information only increases the risk in an already risky hobby.
This will be the one and only response I have for this. I hope you reconsider your stance for the safety of the members of this board.I did tell you where she was from via pm, that still was not good enough for you. You wanted info I could not provide as her ad was removed the very same day it was posted. This girl was literally not a pro service provder atleast not in recent years, she lives with her dad and daddy was on vacation so she had the place to herself. As far as you calling me out I didn't have a problem with it, however after I said it wasnt heather whom I don't even know you still persisted that it was and I was not being truthful, your biggest issue was I banged this chick bb, not really any of your business where I put my dick on this type of date, however I do agree when it comes to the general pussy pool and in that situation I'm always safe and always have been, not out of concern for you but for my own. I had nothing to hide, certainly not from you. I'm not an idiot and I have continued to watch the CL ann arbor section for this girls ad again and it has not popped up, I don't need her ad I have her digits and can see her anytie just not with the convenience of having her own place. I'm willing to chalk it up as a misunderstanding and I accept your appology but in the future don't call people out for what you believe is not the truth, because you never really know unless your there.
MightyMonger
08-23-17, 16:55
In the spirit of calling a spade a spade, no one has ever been more wrong in using this speculation as an example.
Cumulatively hundreds of posts written by a male. Having knowledge of a person doesn't make you that person. Choose the simplest explaination. He was a regular of Heather's, perhaps a quasi SugarDaddy.Hi Heather.
For those of you that haven't figured it out yet, LuckyDude24 is another Heather account.
LuckyDude24
08-23-17, 17:21
Hi Heather.
For those of you that haven't figured it out yet, LuckyDude24 is another Heather account.And she thinks I'm BustedOne. Weird how the world works when you line your hat with tin foil.
SanityIsRealit
08-23-17, 20:19
I did tell you where she was from via pm, that still was not good enough for you. You wanted info I could not provide as her ad was removed the very same day it was posted. This girl was literally not a pro service provder atleast not in recent years, she lives with her dad and daddy was on vacation so she had the place to herself. As far as you calling me out I didn't have a problem with it, however after I said it wasnt heather whom I don't even know you still persisted that it was and I was not being truthful, your biggest issue was I banged this chick bb, not really any of your business where I put my dick on this type of date, however I do agree when it comes to the general pussy pool and in that situation I'm always safe and always have been, not out of concern for you but for my own. I had nothing to hide, certainly not from you. I'm not an idiot and I have continued to watch the CL ann arbor section for this girls ad again and it has not popped up, I don't need her ad I have her digits and can see her anytie just not with the convenience of having her own place. I'm willing to chalk it up as a misunderstanding and I accept your appology but in the future don't call people out for what you believe is not the truth, because you never really know unless your there.I don't know where you dug an apology up from, but it certainly wasn't in my reply. If given the chance, I would have handled it the exact same way. This wasn't a misunderstanding. A misunderstanding would have been a result from your willingness to exchange information and work this out; which you did not do. Just giving a township doesn't narrow it down. There was so much more additional information you could have shared without risking the woman's anonymity, but you chose not to.
I reserve every right to add information that I feel would be beneficial for other members of this board, even if it inadvertently torpedoes another member's post; and I will continue to do so in the interest of information sharing and the overall safety of this board.
I consider this matter closed, and my original posts in the CL forum will stay up as intended (unless Admin decides to remove them).
Acoustic53
08-24-17, 14:44
Hi Heather.
For those of you that haven't figured it out yet, LuckyDude24 is another Heather account.Will the real Mr. X please stand up?
And no, I haven't figured it out.
MightyMonger
08-24-17, 19:11
You don't have to talk to the cops. Plain and simple. Why incriminate yourself? They said since the two dudes talked they could face charges as well. That's crazy.I think you're missing my point, Van Lopez. My point is, it's not a good idea to see a provider that doesn't change location at least every other day. When you see a provider that works out of her home there's a good chance that the neighbors might get very suspicious. There is an old saying, "never shit where you sleep. ".
On a side note, you may want to talk to an attorney. If you think you don't have to talk to the cops you're wrong. Sure you can physically not talk to LE, but legally you might end up in jail for a few days. And just an FYI, you can be held 3 days before they charge you and let you make a phone call.
I think you're missing my point, Van Lopez. My point is, it's not a good idea to see a provider that doesn't change location at least every other day. When you see a provider that works out of her home there's a good chance that the neighbors might get very suspicious. There is an old saying, "never shit where you sleep. ".
On a side note, you may want to talk to an attorney. If you think you don't have to talk to the cops you're wrong. Sure you can physically not talk to LE, but legally you might end up in jail for a few days. And just an FYI, you can be held 3 days before they charge you and let you make a phone call.MightyMonger, I respectfully disagree with your comment. First of all, how practical is it to expect a provider to change her location every other day? I guess if we're talking SW's it theoretically might work but seems to me to be highly impractical and virtually impossible if we're talking an incall massage provider or escort. On the contrary, I think of it as a positive that they're able to maintain a stable "place of business".
Re your comments about "talking" to the "cops" if stopped after leaving a provider, admitting to criminal conduct is about the worst thing you can do. First of all, no jurisdiction is likely to lock someone up for 3 days for this kind of a investigation just to try to make them talk. They'll get sued up the wazoo. After all, it's not murder 1 or armed robbery that they're investigating. More importantly, it's overwhelmingly unlikely that they would have probable cause to arrest you UNLESS you give it to them yourself. The bottom line is that admitting to criminal conduct WILL get you arrested but not making admissions of such conduct probably will keep you FROM being arrested.
No disrespect intended in any of this. I just see it very differently.
I think you're missing my point, Van Lopez. My point is, it's not a good idea to see a provider that doesn't change location at least every other day. When you see a provider that works out of her home there's a good chance that the neighbors might get very suspicious. There is an old saying, "never shit where you sleep. ".
On a side note, you may want to talk to an attorney. If you think you don't have to talk to the cops you're wrong. Sure you can physically not talk to LE, but legally you might end up in jail for a few days. And just an FYI, you can be held 3 days before they charge you and let you make a phone call.I think it is unreasonable to expect a provider to change location every other day. This would seemingly limit them to hotels. I think any research will confirm that most LE busts take place at hotels. That's one reason I hesitate to see providers at hotels and much prefer residential incalls.
I suppose this may be a matter of individual preference but the expectation of moving every other day seems impractical to me.
MightyMonger
08-25-17, 18:47
I think it is unreasonable to expect a provider to change location every other day. This would seemingly limit them to hotels. I think any research will confirm that most LE busts take place at hotels. That's one reason I hesitate to see providers at hotels and much prefer residential incalls.
I suppose this may be a matter of individual preference but the expectation of moving every other day seems impractical to me.
MightyMonger, I respectfully disagree with your comment. First of all, how practical is it to expect a provider to change her location every other day? I guess if we're talking SW's it theoretically might work but seems to me to be highly impractical and virtually impossible if we're talking an incall massage provider or escort. On the contrary, I think of it as a positive that they're able to maintain a stable "place of business".
No disrespect intended in any of this. I just see it very differently.Well I respectfully disagree with you guys disagreeing LOL.
This is like incall vs outcall. Some say incall is safer and some say outcall is safer. But at the end of the day, it's all about your comfort level. For me, I would never see a high volume provider at her incall location where she lives. You have to remember it's not just the foot traffic that gets the neighbors attention, but all the drama that goes along with some of these batshit crazy providers. Sure a low volume provider that has her stuff together is much safer to see, and I'd be OK with that. But most of these girls draw too much bad attention to themselves and that's just not a good thing, and don't forget some of these girls have made quite a few enemies along the way, so the odds of someone trying to get them in trouble is very good (calling LE on them). A real provider spends a day or two at a hotel in Troy, then a day or two in Ann Arbor, then a day or two at a hotel in Dearborn, she mixes it up. When you walk into a hotel room that has pizza boxes, condom wrappers, and a pile of empty beer cans in it like someone has been living there for the last two weeks its just bad news IMO. Most hotels are in clusters, so it shouldn't be that hard for a provider to pack her bag and drive across the street. Sure most busts happen at hotels but that's because 90% of providers work out of hotels.
I guess we can just agree to disagree.
MightyMonger
08-25-17, 19:14
Re your comments about "talking" to the "cops" if stopped after leaving a provider, admitting to criminal conduct is about the worst thing you can do. First of all, no jurisdiction is likely to lock someone up for 3 days for this kind of a investigation just to try to make them talk. They'll get sued up the wazoo. After all, it's not murder 1 or armed robbery that they're investigating. More importantly, it's overwhelmingly unlikely that they would have probable cause to arrest you UNLESS you give it to them yourself. The bottom line is that admitting to criminal conduct WILL get you arrested but not making admissions of such conduct probably will keep you FROM being arrested.
No disrespect intended in any of this. I just see it very differently.Spaguy45, please show me where in my post where it says to tell the truth (admit anything). What I'm saying is, if a LEO asks you a few questions and you tell him "I have the right to remain silent" because you saw it on TV, odds are he's going to F with you. Sure he's not going to charge you with murder, but he can charge you with disorderly conduct (punishable by up to 93 days in jail and a 500 dollar fine). He can then arrest you, take you to the police station and hold you for 72 hours (3 days) before letting you make a phone call. What are you going to tell your wife, job, etc, where you have been for the last 3 days? Now I know you think you're going to sue the police up the wazoo, but let me share this with you. The police report isn't going to say what happened, it's going to say what the LEO wants it to say. Yes, he is going to lie his ass off just to cover his ass and stick it to you. Now I'm not saying this will happen in every case, but it could and has happened. It's your word against his, who do you think the judge is going to believe?
The best advice I can give is, if you haven't passed the bar, hire someone who has. You sir need to talk to an attorney.
It's our right not to say anything. It's not just a TV thing. Sure, cops get mad when you challenge their authority. Why would we be arrested or charged with disorderly conduct for invoking our constitutional rights. Even Jessica Cooper wouldn't do that. Besides, this is a forum about sex. You should consult the free legal forum or better yet, the ACLU website for information pertaining to our rights or abuse of our rights under the law.
Spaguy45, please show me where in my post where it says to tell the truth (admit anything). What I'm saying is, if a LEO asks you a few questions and you tell him "I have the right to remain silent" because you saw it on TV, odds are he's going to F with you. Sure he's not going to charge you with murder, but he can charge you with disorderly conduct (punishable by up to 93 days in jail and a 500 dollar fine). He can then arrest you, take you to the police station and hold you for 72 hours (3 days) before letting you make a phone call. What are you going to tell your wife, job, etc, where you have been for the last 3 days? Now I know you think you're going to sue the police up the wazoo, but let me share this with you. The police report isn't going to say what happened, it's going to say what the LEO wants it to say. Yes, he is going to lie his ass off just to cover his ass and stick it to you. Now I'm not saying this will happen in every case, but it could and has happened. It's your word against his, who do you think the judge is going to believe?
The best advice I can give is, if you haven't passed the bar, hire someone who has. You sir need to talk to an attorney.
Spaguy45, please show me where in my post where it says to tell the truth (admit anything). What I'm saying is, if a LEO asks you a few questions and you tell him "I have the right to remain silent" because you saw it on TV, odds are he's going to F with you. Sure he's not going to charge you with murder, but he can charge you with disorderly conduct (punishable by up to 93 days in jail and a 500 dollar fine). He can then arrest you, take you to the police station and hold you for 72 hours (3 days) before letting you make a phone call. What are you going to tell your wife, job, etc, where you have been for the last 3 days? Now I know you think you're going to sue the police up the wazoo, but let me share this with you. The police report isn't going to say what happened, it's going to say what the LEO wants it to say. Yes, he is going to lie his ass off just to cover his ass and stick it to you. Now I'm not saying this will happen in every case, but it could and has happened. It's your word against his, who do you think the judge is going to believe?
The best advice I can give is, if you haven't passed the bar, hire someone who has. You sir need to talk to an attorney.You know, MightyMonger, I was going to write a substantive response but decided against it since you obviously wouldn't understand it anyway. In your original post, if you meant "talk to the cops *but don't admit to anything*", that would have been more coherent than simply saying "talk to the cops". After all, if you're pulled over, the cops are not going to be asking about the weather or last night's game score. Rather, they're going to be asking where you've been, why are you there, who did you see, what did you do? Those are what you're going to have to be talking to the cops about! Yet the only advice you gave in your post was to "talk to the cops". The reality therefore is that at best your advice was incoherent in context and in any event flat out wrong as stated. Moreover, your prediction that politely asserting a Fifth Amendment privilege and declining to answer will earn you 3 days in a jail cell to force you to talk is ignorant to the point of preposterousness. I might be more inclined to agree with you if one added the word "Asshole" at the end of the sentence claiming the privilege. However, politely claiming the privilege is not going to get you carted off to jail for 3 days! It's absurd and will not happen.
Try not to keep forgetting to take your meds, Buddy.
MightyMonger, I respectfully disagree with your comment. First of all, how practical is it to expect a provider to change her location every other day? I guess if we're talking SW's it theoretically might work but seems to me to be highly impractical and virtually impossible if we're talking an incall massage provider or escort. On the contrary, I think of it as a positive that they're able to maintain a stable "place of business".In my experience and in talking with SPs over the years it is very common for many (especially escorts) to change hotels every couple days. They do it both to cover more area (geographically) and to reduce suspicion of traffic coming to their room. Those who I know and have seen that use a private residence are pretty low volume and offer no short stay appointments. If you have a private massage studio set up that's a bit different. However, "massage" providers are using the cover of a "legitimate" and legal business. This "cover" will also offer any john the opportunity (if needed) to tell LEO exactly that, "I went in for and received a message. ".
Re your comments about "talking" to the "cops" if stopped after leaving a provider, admitting to criminal conduct is about the worst thing you can do. First of all, no jurisdiction is likely to lock someone up for 3 days for this kind of a investigation just to try to make them talk. They'll get sued up the wazoo. After all, it's not murder 1 or armed robbery that they're investigating. More importantly, it's overwhelmingly unlikely that they would have probable cause to arrest you UNLESS you give it to them yourself. The bottom line is that admitting to criminal conduct WILL get you arrested but not making admissions of such conduct probably will keep you FROM being arrested.
No disrespect intended in any of this. I just see it very differently.I couldn't agree with you more regarding admissions to criminal activity. Have a story prepared in which no wrong doing is admitted (as someone else previously mentioned). Tell them you stopped by to pick up the lady of the house for a lunch or dinner date only to have her cancel. Be a little upset for how she ended up wasting your time. Other than that you don't know anything. Sorry, don't know her that well, was hoping to get to know her better but it didn't work out that way.
You know, MightyMonger, I was going to write a substantive response but decided against it since you obviously wouldn't understand it anyway. In your original post, if you meant "talk to the cops *but don't admit to anything*", that would have been more coherent than simply saying "talk to the cops". After all, if you're pulled over, the cops are not going to be asking about the weather or last night's game score. Rather, they're going to be asking where you've been, why are you there, who did you see, what did you do? Those are what you're going to have to be talking to the cops about! Yet the only advice you gave in your post was to "talk to the cops". The reality therefore is that at best your advice was incoherent in context and in any event flat out wrong as stated. Moreover, your prediction that politely asserting a Fifth Amendment privilege and declining to answer will earn you 3 days in a jail cell to force you to talk is ignorant to the point of preposterousness. I might be more inclined to agree with you if one added the word "Asshole" at the end of the sentence claiming the privilege. However, politely claiming the privilege is not going to get you carted off to jail for 3 days! It's absurd and will not happen.
Try not to keep forgetting to take your meds, Buddy.Totally agree. You are under no obligation to talk to cops. Most lawyers will tell you that. What can you be charged with if you refuse to answer their questions? Sure they may try to trick you and act like the good guy but, don't be fooled!! They aren't your friends. Just be calm and cool but assert your rights when need to.
MightyMonger
08-26-17, 15:44
You know, MightyMonger, I was going to write a substantive response but decided against it since you obviously wouldn't understand it anyway. In your original post, if you meant "talk to the cops *but don't admit to anything*", that would have been more coherent than simply saying "talk to the cops". After all, if you're pulled over, the cops are not going to be asking about the weather or last night's game score. Rather, they're going to be asking where you've been, why are you there, who did you see, what did you do? Those are what you're going to have to be talking to the cops about! Yet the only advice you gave in your post was to "talk to the cops". The reality therefore is that at best your advice was incoherent in context and in any event flat out wrong as stated. Moreover, your prediction that politely asserting a Fifth Amendment privilege and declining to answer will earn you 3 days in a jail cell to force you to talk is ignorant to the point of preposterousness. I might be more inclined to agree with you if one added the word "Asshole" at the end of the sentence claiming the privilege. However, politely claiming the privilege is not going to get you carted off to jail for 3 days! It's absurd and will not happen.
Try not to keep forgetting to take your meds, Buddy.Spaguy45, you are absolutely correct. I should have put more detail into my original post. Also, rereading my second post it did start off somewhat dick-head-ish. I apologize for that, it wasn't meant that way.
MightyMonger
08-26-17, 15:47
Totally agree. You are under no obligation to talk to cops. Most lawyers will tell you that. What can you be charged with if you refuse to answer their questions? Sure they may try to trick you and act like the good guy but, don't be fooled!! They aren't your friends. Just be calm and cool but assert your rights when need to.Disorderly conduct, its a misdemeanor crime but still punishable by up to 93 days in jail and a 500 dollar fine.
MightyMonger
08-26-17, 15:52
It's our right not to say anything. It's not just a TV thing. Sure, cops get mad when you challenge their authority. Why would we be arrested or charged with disorderly conduct for invoking our constitutional rights. Even Jessica Cooper wouldn't do that. Besides, this is a forum about sex. You should consult the free legal forum or better yet, the ACLU website for information pertaining to our rights or abuse of our rights under the law.Spend a few hundred buck and ask an attorney that question, maybe you will believe him.
MetroRider
08-27-17, 11:18
I once went to an incall in Warren. I walked into the room and walked right back out because the girl was a hot mess. About a mile down the road I was pulled over and asked what I was doing at the hotel. I told the cop that my boss asked me to stop by and check on a co-worker who was living there, he was a no call no show for the last three days. The cop didn't believe me and wrote me a ticket for three moving violations, failure to stop upon leaving private property, not using my turning signal, and speeding. The tickets were total bullshit. I stopped, used my turning signal, and I wasn't speeding. If you think for a second the cops won't lie to make their job easier you're wrong. If they can lie and say you were speeding when you weren't, they could easily lie and say you called him every name in the book and arrest you for disorderly conduct.
I find it funny how the guys who have never even been handcuffed think they know so much about the law. Trust me that way of thinking will change after a night or two in jail. Sure you don't have to talk to the cops, but the cops don't have to tell the truth either.
MetroRider
08-27-17, 11:27
In my experience and in talking with SPs over the years it is very common for many (especially escorts) to change hotels every couple days. They do it both to cover more area (geographically) and to reduce suspicion of traffic coming to their room. Those who I know and have seen that use a private residence are pretty low volume and offer no short stay appointments. If you have a private massage studio set up that's a bit different. However, "massage" providers are using the cover of a "legitimate" and legal business. This "cover" will also offer any john the opportunity (if needed) to tell LEO exactly that, "I went in for and received a message. ".
I couldn't agree with you more regarding admissions to criminal activity. Have a story prepared in which no wrong doing is admitted (as someone else previously mentioned). Tell them you stopped by to pick up the lady of the house for a lunch or dinner date only to have her cancel. Be a little upset for how she ended up wasting your time. Other than that you don't know anything. Sorry, don't know her that well, was hoping to get to know her better but it didn't work out that way.Very well said Perusing. I think the problem here is most of these guys have no idea about the "deep" hobby. They think BP is the only source for escorts. I bet 90% of the men here don't even know how the reference system works.
MetroRider
08-27-17, 11:32
Totally agree. You are under no obligation to talk to cops. Most lawyers will tell you that. What can you be charged with if you refuse to answer their questions? Sure they may try to trick you and act like the good guy but, don't be fooled!! They aren't your friends. Just be calm and cool but assert your rights when need to.
I'm sorry but what's YMMV mean?I love how a guy that doesn't know what "YMMV" means knows so much about the law. How long have you been here?
Be safe please. But at the same time, why would anyone advertise this kinda thing to the whole world? Way TMI!
They never do, that's why posting something like that is an STD infraction. It's ALWAYS somebody posting it to fuck with a chick. Expimp, competition, some guy who's pissed. It's always, 100% of the time a lie
A2Here's another post that shows how much common sense you have. Girls do this stuff all the time to sabotage one another.
TBYT (think before you type).
MetroRider
08-27-17, 12:25
Definitely a bad tone on here lately. Lots of wanting to call each other out.You're just upset because someone called you out for having 500 posts of nothing.
I love how a guy that doesn't know what "YMMV" means knows so much about the law. How long have you been here?
Here's another post that shows how much common sense you have. Girls do this stuff all the time to sabotage one another.
TBYT (think before you type).So I'm not allowed to post on here cause I didn't know what YMMV meant? Actually I did know what it meant. I never asked what it means. So that's false. I probably now the law better than you cause I'm study it.
So I'm not allowed to post on here cause I didn't know what YMMV meant? Actually I did know what it meant. I never asked what it means. So that's false. I probably now the law better than you cause I'm study it.
I'm sorry but what's YMMV mean?Not to pile on but I found and present your post. Also you spell know with a K.
I once went to an incall in Warren. I walked into the room and walked right back out because the girl was a hot mess. About a mile down the road I was pulled over and asked what I was doing at the hotel. I told the cop that my boss asked me to stop by and check on a co-worker who was living there, he was a no call no show for the last three days. The cop didn't believe me and wrote me a ticket for three moving violations, failure to stop upon leaving private property, not using my turning signal, and speeding. The tickets were total bullshit. I stopped, used my turning signal, and I wasn't speeding. If you think for a second the cops won't lie to make their job easier you're wrong. If they can lie and say you were speeding when you weren't, they could easily lie and say you called him every name in the book and arrest you for disorderly conduct.
I find it funny how the guys who have never even been handcuffed think they know so much about the law. Trust me that way of thinking will change after a night or two in jail. Sure you don't have to talk to the cops, but the cops don't have to tell the truth either.You got off lucky that the cop didn't think to write you a ticket for no seat belt. Cops lie all the time on the stand, such that it would be amusing as heck to actually have one hooked up to a lie detector when they are on the stand.
HookerLover
08-27-17, 15:06
So I'm not allowed to post on here cause I didn't know what YMMV meant? Actually I did know what it meant. I never asked what it means. So that's false. I probably now the law better than you cause I'm study it.NO offense, but your last statement sounds so dumb. Lmao you "probably now the law" I learned in grade school it's know. Maybe they don't teach you that at law school. And then you say, "cause I'm study it" Come on man.
Ohh nooo, how will we survive without the drama queen!
You're just upset because someone called you out for having 500 posts of nothing.
Definitely a bad tone on here lately. Lots of wanting to call each other out.I said there is bad tone on here lately because of posts like yours.
Please reread your recent posts and ask yourself if you could have rephrased your comments in a more constructive way.
MetroRider
08-27-17, 17:17
This is the official fight club for Detroit. The rules on argumentative infractions are relaxed here. That means you can call a guy a fucking idiot and I won't do anything about it. You can't out personal info, you can't talk about arrests or legal problems of others, you can't say some chick has an STD, all the other rules still apply.
What you can do is call anybody, myself included if I haven't written in blue, pretty much anything you want. (except pedophile, we never take that issue lightly)
It also means there is ZERO TOLERANCE for stupidity on ALL the other threads in Detroit.
I suggest you use what I have given you or I'm putting the whole city on moderation.
A2
I said there is bad tone on here lately because of posts like yours.
Please reread your recent posts and ask yourself if you could have rephrased your comments in a more constructive way.It's the "fight thread" Jack, that's the whole purpose of this section. And just an FYI, Tommy had it coming because of his cry baby attitude. That's why A2 even gave him shit. Again, the whole purpose of this area. Personally I think you're but hurt form being called out for posting garbage just to make your post count higher. I would suggest you not click on the Motor City Mayhem thread if you're that thin skinned.
MetroRider
08-27-17, 18:01
So I'm not allowed to post on here cause I didn't know what YMMV meant?I never said that, I just think you need to TBYT (think before you type).
Actually I did know what it meant. I never asked what it means. So that's false.Really? http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?8148-BackPage-Advertiser-Reviews&p=3524976#post3524976.
I probably now the law better than you cause I'm study it.LMFAO, I think you need to study punctuation and grammar first.
I never said that, I just think you need to TBYT (think before you type).
Really? http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?8148-BackPage-Advertiser-Reviews&p=3524976#post3524976.
LMFAO, I think you need to study punctuation and grammar first.No dude. You need to learn correct grammar and spelling. Do you want to be like me?
Acoustic53
08-27-17, 20:56
I never said that, I just think you need to TBYT (think before you type).
Really? http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?8148-BackPage-Advertiser-Reviews&p=3524976#post3524976.
LMFAO, I think you need to study punctuation and grammar first.Funny thing. Decades ago, one of the first things I learned in law school was that a college degree plus admission to law school did not guarantee that the student could write effectively. There were plenty of students who couldn't manage it. My professor of Legal Writing and Research also told the class that many corporations were sending their managers and employees back to school for remedial reading and writing. Sad, but true. And it appears things haven't improved, if Mr. Tiger0033 truly is enrolled in law school.
Which makes me wonder, Tiger. If you're studying law, how do you have time for "hobbying"? The workload in the typical law school curriculum is tremendous, and if you are holding down a job, too, there is very little free time left for anything else. You must be masterful at time management.
MightyMonger
08-27-17, 21:22
I'm sorry but what's YMMV mean?
Actually I did know what it meant. I never asked what it means. So that's false.Tiger0033, how do you post a bold face lie like this and expect anyone to respect you?
MightyMonger
08-27-17, 21:28
And she thinks I'm BustedOne. Weird how the world works when you line your hat with tin foil.Bye Heather, I'm sure you will be back soon (rolling eyes).
You know, I don't have any problem with people substantively disagreeing with one another. That's what this thread is for. But there's nothing worthwhile about having it devolve into adolescent-like name calling and blathering stupidity! It's a waste of everyone's time.
Funny thing. Decades ago, one of the first things I learned in law school was that a college degree plus admission to law school did not guarantee that the student could write effectively. There were plenty of students who couldn't manage it. My professor of Legal Writing and Research also told the class that many corporations were sending their managers and employees back to school for remedial reading and writing. Sad, but true. And it appears things haven't improved, if Mr. Tiger0033 truly is enrolled in law school.
Which makes me wonder, Tiger. If you're studying law, how do you have time for "hobbying"? The workload in the typical law school curriculum is tremendous, and if you are holding down a job, too, there is very little free time left for anything else. You must be masterful at time management.I'm just that good. You also must be jealous of me. I was once a stripper and I'm going to med school part time. So stop being jealous and don't hate cause I'm beautiful.
Acoustic53
08-28-17, 13:20
I'm just that good. You also must be jealous of me. I was once a stripper and I'm going to med school part time. So stop being jealous and don't hate cause I'm beautiful.Yep, you got me. I'm jealous of you. Now it seems you are studying medicine AND law simultaneously? Totally awesome! There is indeed such a program for combined J. D. And M. D. I am now your #1 fan.
MetroRider
08-28-17, 18:21
You know, I don't have any problem with people substantively disagreeing with one another. That's what this thread is for. But there's nothing worthwhile about having it devolve into adolescent-like name calling and blathering stupidity! It's a waste of everyone's time.Well if your sensitive little pink vajayjay starts to quiver every time mom and dad fight, maybe you shouldn't click on the Motor City Mayhem fight thread. You know guys like you really get me, you cry like a little school girl when guys get into it, but yet you click on that thread each time there is a new post. Personally I think you're an even bigger asshole than me, you ripped Mighty Monger a new ass because he didn't make it easy enough for you to understand (you're the dumb ass that assumed tell the cops everything), then he apologized (something that never seems to happen around here) and you didn't even acknowledge it. You, sir, are a first class asshole.
MetroRider
08-28-17, 18:27
I'm just that good. You also must be jealous of me. I was once a stripper at the Blue Oyster Bar and I'm going to med school part time. So stop being jealous and don't hate cause I'm beautiful.Not that there's anything wrong with that.
Not that there's anything wrong with that.Yea real funny bucko. Once again you just want to be like me. I bet you still live with your parents. Haha, how pathetic.
Member #5598
08-29-17, 12:42
Listen fags, this hobby isn't for prissy little bitches. It's fucking dangerous and you can literally get yourself killed if you're not careful.
Think about that. Think about how much you get *triggered* by someone on an online forum pissing you off with his language and taunts. If your pussy skin is so damn shallow that you can't handle it, then get the hell out of the hobby, now.
If you want to argue, well and great. But if you can't handle when someone is a dick to you, then really get the fuck out of this hobby while you can.
EricTheReddit
08-29-17, 14:12
Listen fags, this hobby isn't for prissy little bitches. It's fucking dangerous and you can literally get yourself killed if you're not careful.
Think about that. Think about how much you get *triggered* by someone on an online forum pissing you off with his language and taunts. If your pussy skin is so damn shallow that you can't handle it, then get the hell out of the hobby, now.
If you want to argue, well and great. But if you can't handle when someone is a dick to you, then really get the fuck out of this hobby while you can.This right here, thank you Mike Turner.
Acoustic53
08-29-17, 21:01
Listen fags, this hobby isn't for prissy little bitches. It's fucking dangerous and you can literally get yourself killed if you're not careful.
Think about that. Think about how much you get *triggered* by someone on an online forum pissing you off with his language and taunts. If your pussy skin is so damn shallow that you can't handle it, then get the hell out of the hobby, now.
If you want to argue, well and great. But if you can't handle when someone is a dick to you, then really get the fuck out of this hobby while you can.Honestly, I find this thread more entertaining than the review threads.
MetroRider
08-30-17, 20:59
Had a dream about amber last night she is very nice a Bbw and takes it like a champ everything covered.How in the hell do you not post a link?
MetroRider
08-30-17, 21:00
She looks to go to be true.You think (rolling eyes).
MetroRider
08-30-17, 21:09
Curious about this gem at 9 & John are.
http://detroit.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/exotic-spinner-open-minded/28348027
Thanks.
I've still been tempted even though I bailed on her a few times. Tried again this past Sunday. Drove around to check out the neighborhood a few times and the HPPD showed up. I don't know if they went to her house because I took off. Don't know what to make of it.
God, I really hope this works. This was my convesation with her today. http://detroit.backpage.com/WomenSee...inded/28348027
Hey, how much for the hour? Thanks.
175 hr.
All inclusive?
Yes.
Triple?
Yes.
Got pictures?
https://api.textnow.me/media/?h=e8d401e2b085f2bda513fb208f0ddcf59d1d0da340161faeb88ca8577a4bbad5
Can you prove it with a finger in the rear? That'd be great, thanks.
Nope I don't do pic request.
Especially that kind.
Ok, thank you for your time.
Yeppers.You three "Senior Members" have no common sense. Do you really think that a girl that looks that good is selling pussy on BP for 175 an hour. If she told you 125 for the half would that raise a red flag for you? Good god man I don't even need Google Image to know that one is BS.
Now if my words hurt your feelings, how hurt are you going to be when her 6' 3" 250 lbs pimp and his homeboy come in the room and kick your ass and take everything you got?
Use your head man, and learn how to use Google Image.
MetroRider
08-30-17, 21:11
I'd like to know also, please. She keeps texting me that she wants my pee pee.Its your money she wants, she knows you're a mark.
MetroRider
08-30-17, 21:32
Saturday night leaving SC got pulled over BLK cop with additude, followed me 2 miles said your tail lights were out. Check they were fine did 4 ways.
Everything kosher. Asked for Driver Lic registration Ins. Handed iit to him, Asked how much I had to drink I told not much.
He brought out breath kit asked me to blow in it 0. 000 I drink water he said you haven't been drinking why you say not much, you looking for trouble.
Officer I look for no trouble, Officer my phone is recording our conversation you should be aware of that, ok you can go on your way have good night.
I wonder if he takes bribes from people that blow up past 0. 08 ?? Dirty cop.Dirty cop? More like asshole citizen. Dude you are an asshole. People get killed by drunk drivers everyday. That LEO is doing his job keeping the streets safe. If he has to say you have a tail light out so he can check you out after you leave the bar at 2 am (or whatever time it was) and get a drunk driver off the road to save a life (maybe even yours) then so be it. Then you come on here and try to make some cool-guy post but end up looking like a dickhead.
MetroRider
08-30-17, 21:37
Nothing good on j are today at 3.Well its more informative then most of Jackknoff posts.
MetroRider
08-30-17, 21:45
Read his activity. 15 posts, mostly vague shit. LEO in his name posts both here and Toledo.Here's another rocket scientist, he thinks because another member has "LEO" in his screen name that he might be a cop.
MetroRider
08-30-17, 21:47
Listen fags, this hobby isn't for prissy little bitches. It's fucking dangerous and you can literally get yourself killed if you're not careful.
Think about that. Think about how much you get *triggered* by someone on an online forum pissing you off with his language and taunts. If your pussy skin is so damn shallow that you can't handle it, then get the hell out of the hobby, now.
If you want to argue, well and great. But if you can't handle when someone is a dick to you, then really get the fuck out of this hobby while you can.100% agree. Don't click on this thread if you can't take it!
SocialAveng313
08-30-17, 22:58
You three "Senior Members" have no common sense. Do you really think that a girl that looks that good is selling pussy on BP for 175 an hour. If she told you 125 for the half would that raise a red flag for you? Good god man I don't even need Google Image to know that one is BS.
Now if my words hurt your feelings, how hurt are you going to be when her 6' 3" 250 lbs pimp and his homeboy come in the room and kick your ass and take everything you got?
Use your head man, and learn how to use Google Image.Not looking to start anything, but my previous comments about her stated she is not the one in the pictures. However, I do know what she looks like and I do know where she works out of / lives. She is quite attractive, lost her BF in a tragic accident, all based on her social media account. What has prevented me from going through with an appointment is that she is 2 blocks north of 8 mile in HP where the 5 0 drive through. The temptation is still there, but I doubt I will pursue any future engagements after this past weekend's excitement.
P.S. she quoted me 100 for the hhr.
Well its more informative then most of Jackknoff posts.MetroRider,
Not exactly sure what your issue is. You seem to like to talk trash and troll other hobbyists.
Since you like to comment on the value of my posts, would you like to point out the valueable information you provide to the forum. BTW, I don't consider trolling every comment you can find with a dickead comment value add. You sure sound a lot like a former poster on this forum that liked to stir shit up in order to create drama.
If you don't like my comments, feel free to block me. If not, then STFU.
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