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That was me, and ironically I'll admit that I picked up a girl for a date in my car (five months later I'm still seeing her). I think the point here is that experience determines what works for you but take it case by case, as ElToro wrote. It's just not like the other board where there are a lot more procedures most people follow. The appeal of non-pros is that it feels like dating. You have to lead the discussion because most of women I encountered either just started or had been doing it for just a couple months. After all a lot of these women have some form of daddy issues, they want that type of relationship.I will add that it was her idea. She texted me at 3 am that she just had coffee and was wide awake! And was "bored ya know".
I met my second girl last night. A girl who has only been on the board for about a week or so from my memory. I don't want to log back into the site as I don't have a use for it anymore. She is a total non pro. There was no discussions of PPM or any terminology or anything. She just wants help with her bills and showed me some of them that she wants help with. She is a good girl. This is definitely what I was looking for. I thought it would be much harder honestly to find this. Kicking myself for not trying earlier. I just thought it would be like Tinder. Impossible to get a good looking girls attention. This has elements of regular dating / tinder mixed into it. Unless the girls photos are all of her without a head shot and in her lingerie you don't know if she's a pro or not so if you just shoot a PPM she may get offended and never respond to you.
I will add that it was her idea. She texted me at 3 am that she just had coffee and was wide awake! And was "bored ya know".
I met my second girl last night. A girl who has only been on the board for about a week or so from my memory. I don't want to log back into the site as I don't have a use for it anymore. She is a total non pro. There was no discussions of PPM or any terminology or anything. She just wants help with her bills and showed me some of them that she wants help with. She is a good girl. This is definitely what I was looking for. I thought it would be much harder honestly to find this. Kicking myself for not trying earlier. I just thought it would be like Tinder. Impossible to get a good looking girls attention. This has elements of regular dating / tinder mixed into it. Unless the girls photos are all of her without a head shot and in her lingerie you don't know if she's a pro or not so if you just shoot a PPM she may get offended and never respond to you.The ones who have been on the site awhile definitely get jaded a bit and start to get a feel of what the average ppm amounts are with the tons of messages they get. At least they have to be getting an idea from somewhere otherwise I wouldn't be seeing a somewhat similar range when the topic comes up. It makes me think trying to contact the newer ones is better though you have to be careful of the fakes / scammers who make accounts everyday.
I'm still mixed about talking about ppm early or not at all as there are pros and cons. I feel like there's much more potential for your time wasted if you don't, but the reward is there if they're new / inexperienced. I got through texting and a nice M&G where nothing like that was discussed, then afterwards she throws out a 700 ppm. Made me want to go back to discussing that within the first couple messages again. I do that with another girl and she gives red flags asking how long or that x amount isn't enough for even 2 hrs. Easy next in that case.
PriceIsRight39
07-30-23, 00:02
DUDE! NEVER and I mean NEVER talk about PPM, allowance or any kind of money talk on the SA site! Period! You do that and you violate the TOS, the BOTs that scan every message will catch you and you will get banned! Talk general stuff and get her to agree to communicate offsite where you can discuss PPM or allowance. Most of the time the best advice is save that discussion for a Meet & Greet (M&G) for several reasons.
First scammers, rip-off artists and Pro's aren't going to waste time with M&Gs. Never agree to pay for a M&G as this is in essence a 'job interview. ' Asking for funds for a M&G is a sure sign of a rinser.
Second, despite what I have seen others post, this isn't totally socially acceptable nor on the right side of things. As such, do you wish to leave a written record of your PPM negotiations with a girl? Don't talk PPM or sex for money through text, etc.
Finally, the best "education" one can get comes from what is / was the defacto (first & only) SB board / thread in Richmond VA. A kind dude or two scraped that thread and created a new one with all of the best advice on "how to" sugar date. More info than one can absorb in one sitting but a PhD level of knowledge there. Just like any skill, you get out of Sugaring what you put into it, time wise.
http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?15100-Sugarbaby-Thread-Highlights-Index-and-FAQ
But seriously, if you are looking for the real LT, intimate Sugar Dating experience, one needs to distinguish them self from the numbnuts and Neanderthals who send dick picks, treat girls like prostitutes or think these girls are just an upgrade to escorts. In other words if your focus is purely "PPM and move on to the next", then one should be playing in the escort area. Then again, more guys who treat girls badly, just makes it easier for those of us who play the game right.Tyrone is never nice. Why his salami gets wet before " daddy's. LOL.
The ones who have been on the site awhile definitely get jaded a bit and start to get a feel of what the average ppm amounts are with the tons of messages they get. At least they have to be getting an idea from somewhere otherwise I wouldn't be seeing a somewhat similar range when the topic comes up. It makes me think trying to contact the newer ones is better though you have to be careful of the fakes / scammers who make accounts everyday.
I'm still mixed about talking about ppm early or not at all as there are pros and cons. I feel like there's much more potential for your time wasted if you don't, but the reward is there if they're new / inexperienced. I got through texting and a nice M&G where nothing like that was discussed, then afterwards she throws out a 700 ppm. Made me want to go back to discussing that within the first couple messages again. I do that with another girl and she gives red flags asking how long or that x amount isn't enough for even 2 hrs. Easy next in that case.Yea. I hear you on the 700 ppm. I have not seen her a second time yet. So only time will tell how the financing of it will all go. I agree it's a huge risk cause they could be a bot and / or a scammer of some kind. Until you physically meet them you simply have no idea if they are even real.
PriceIsRight39
07-30-23, 00:47
The ones who have been on the site awhile definitely get jaded a bit and start to get a feel of what the average ppm amounts are with the tons of messages they get. At least they have to be getting an idea from somewhere otherwise I wouldn't be seeing a somewhat similar range when the topic comes up. It makes me think trying to contact the newer ones is better though you have to be careful of the fakes / scammers who make accounts everyday.
I'm still mixed about talking about ppm early or not at all as there are pros and cons. I feel like there's much more potential for your time wasted if you don't, but the reward is there if they're new / inexperienced. I got through texting and a nice M&G where nothing like that was discussed, then afterwards she throws out a 700 ppm. Made me want to go back to discussing that within the first couple messages again. I do that with another girl and she gives red flags asking how long or that x amount isn't enough for even 2 hrs. Easy next in that case.The first one I got said on SA," ppm?" I said, sure, she said a number, I said " ok " and SA said nada. Maybe we slipped though the cracks. Ladies on SA want money, there's a recession.
AlanHeckle
07-30-23, 03:53
https://members.seeking.com/messages/inbox/4dd0905c-f586-42df-8634-d2094eI
Seems real and nice but I'm always wary of older profiles. Usually jaded or a pro or GPS.
AlanHeckle
07-30-23, 12:00
https://members.seeking.com/messages/inbox/4dd0905c-f586-42df-8634-d2094eI
Seems real and nice but I'm always wary of older profiles. Usually jaded or a pro or GPS.Well never mind. Bad link and she's now blocked me so answered my question LOL.
https://members.seeking.com/messages/inbox/4dd0905c-f586-42df-8634-d2094eI
Seems real and nice but I'm always wary of older profiles. Usually jaded or a pro or GPS.Link does not work. I think you sent a URL to your messages. See above.
https://members.seeking.com/messages/inbox/4dd0905c-f586-42df-8634-d2094eI
Seems real and nice but I'm always wary of older profiles. Usually jaded or a pro or GPS.You linked your messages not her profile.
https://members.seeking.com/messages/inbox/4dd0905c-f586-42df-8634-d2094eI
Seems real and nice but I'm always wary of older profiles. Usually jaded or a pro or GPS.Check your link. It goes to messages.
AlanHeckle
07-30-23, 13:21
Check your link. It goes to messages.Yeah I noticed as soon as it posted but as she has since blocked me I can't post her actual profile LOL.
Sammy468.
https://members.seeking.com/messages/inbox/df3d2f70-e3ae-4ee5-96e7-f231a8251e71
Larger than her pics suggest. Was ok with 250 ppm+plan b money. No transportation, have to pick her up in Auburn. Started hitting me up soon after asking for more meetings.
Yourprincessxx.
https://members.seeking.com/member/5d50618d-9fae-43ac-9b2e-a3dfb10041fa
350 ppm, cool with bare, but not on BC. Short and thicker than her pics suggest.
Off_lily2.
https://members.seeking.com/member/515b8dde-76a9-4d5a-ac8b-98f845f5c5d7
Was cool with $250 ppm. Agreed to meet, but ghosted last minute. From conversation I think this was probably a long shot and she wasnt really sure, but it could be my specific requests.
Babydoll.
https://members.seeking.com/member/e6131b6f-9b03-4198-8907-d61b864ee8af
GPS, wanted $500/ hr for meets. Could probably be talked down but previously had a sugar daddy that paid her to just talk and she is very choose of who can have her body. LOL.
Hellokittybabiee.
https://members.seeking.com/member/4ceaf381-8529-40e7-a3af-2cd40dc63903
Was cool with $300 ppm. After agreeing kinda the same issue as Off_lily2, just couldn't get with the program.
AllisonWonderland.
https://members.seeking.com/member/0672bc20-b271-40d4-9a1c-6fde23ef354c
Requires 2 compensated meetings before anything sexual to establish trust. Pass.
Lavieenrose.
https://members.seeking.com/member/e502d7bc-9954-445f-b5b7-b0e8868e1bfd
Seems real enough but takes forever to respond. Pass.
https://members.seeking.com/member/72483246-32fa-439e-b887-e7430bdd982b
You dudes hit up the youngsters and wonder why all the hassle and drama.
I prefer 28 minimum, I usually shop in the 30+. Haven't had much trouble at all.
Sammy468.
https://members.seeking.com/messages/inbox/df3d2f70-e3ae-4ee5-96e7-f231a8251e71
Larger than her pics suggest. Was ok with 250 ppm+plan b money. No transportation, have to pick her up in Auburn. Started hitting me up soon after asking for more meetings.
Yourprincessxx.
https://members.seeking.com/member/5d50618d-9fae-43ac-9b2e-a3dfb10041fa
350 ppm, cool with bare, but not on BC. Short and thicker than her pics suggest.
Off_lily2.
https://members.seeking.com/member/515b8dde-76a9-4d5a-ac8b-98f845f5c5d7
Was cool with $250 ppm. Agreed to meet, but ghosted last minute. From conversation I think this was probably a long shot and she wasnt really sure, but it could be my specific requests.
Babydoll.
https://members.seeking.com/member/e6131b6f-9b03-4198-8907-d61b864ee8af
GPS, wanted $500/ hr for meets. Could probably be talked down but previously had a sugar daddy that paid her to just talk and she is very choose of who can have her body. LOL.
Hellokittybabiee.
https://members.seeking.com/member/4ceaf381-8529-40e7-a3af-2cd40dc63903
Was cool with $300 ppm. After agreeing kinda the same issue as Off_lily2, just couldn't get with the program.
AllisonWonderland.
https://members.seeking.com/member/0672bc20-b271-40d4-9a1c-6fde23ef354c
Requires 2 compensated meetings before anything sexual to establish trust. Pass.
Lavieenrose.
https://members.seeking.com/member/e502d7bc-9954-445f-b5b7-b0e8868e1bfd
Seems real enough but takes forever to respond. Pass.
Watch out for a girl by the name of "LatinaK" She is a scammer. I admit I got scammed. Was the second girl I met off this site. I should have just listened to my gut.
AlanHeckle
08-01-23, 13:11
You dudes hit up the youngsters and wonder why all the hassle and drama.
I prefer 28 minimum, I usually shop in the 30+. Haven't had much trouble at all.You're not wrong but at least for me I'm not really digging the older women (unless they are total smokeshows) because honestly I feel that I could get a 37 year old divorcee with kids normally. Why pay for it? Part of the appeal is getting that college woman who I couldn't get otherwise.
Watch out for a girl by the name of "LatinaK" She is a scammer. I admit I got scammed. Was the second girl I met off this site. I should have just listened to my gut.https://members.seeking.com/member/0ba3ad4d-174e-499d-be36-9f41d9bf7551
Watch out for a girl by the name of "LatinaK" She is a scammer. I admit I got scammed. Was the second girl I met off this site. I should have just listened to my gut.None of these links ever work for me. What am I doing wrong? I'm signed into my seeking account.
Blazer1979
08-01-23, 20:50
None of these links ever work for me. What am I doing wrong? I'm signed into my seeking account.What do you mean, "it never works"? What happens?
Try copying the link, then pasting it into the location bar on your browser.
Michael1967
08-01-23, 21:43
You're not wrong but at least for me I'm not really digging the older women (unless they are total smokeshows) because honestly I feel that I could get a 37 year old divorcee with kids normally. Why pay for it? Part of the appeal is getting that college woman who I couldn't get otherwise.This all could be due to a difference in ages. I'm 55. I've done the 18-25 YOs on Seeking. They are cute as fuck, but the vast majority are lousy in bed and for the most part they are too young to have the life experiences that make them interesting to talk to. So, you're basically paying a premium price for a nice body on a person that is a lousy lay and when you're talking to them, they are talking about stuff that you aren't really interested in or care about.
The women in their mid-30's are still young, still hot, but they usually have the sex thing figured out (especially if they expect to get paid for it) and they generally have enough life experience to have a great conversation with.
So, as a 55 YO, I'm still getting young and hot (and probably out of my league) with someone in their mid 30's. If I were in my 30's or lower to mid 40's, I could get those women anyway, so I'd probably go after the ones in the lower 20's who normally wouldn't date me.
We are all saying the same thing, we just come at it from different perspectives because of our age.
DickIncider12
08-01-23, 21:52
This all could be due to a difference in ages. I'm 55. I've done the 18-25 YOs on Seeking. They are cute as fuck, but the vast majority are lousy in bed and for the most part they are too young to have the life experiences that make them interesting to talk to. So, you're basically paying a premium price for a nice body on a person that is a lousy lay and when you're talking to them, they are talking about stuff that you aren't really interested in or care about.
The women in their mid-30's are still young, still hot, but they usually have the sex thing figured out (especially if they expect to get paid for it) and they generally have enough life experience to have a great conversation with.
So, as a 55 YO, I'm still getting young and hot (and probably out of my league) with someone in their mid 30's. If I were in my 30's or lower to mid 40's, I could get those women anyway, so I'd probably go after the ones in the lower 20's who normally wouldn't date me.
We are all saying the same thing, we just come at it from different perspectives because of our age.That's what I love about these college girls man, we keep getting older they stay the same age!
FilipinoKitten.
https://members.seeking.com/member/526d174d-175a-48ad-8b8d-513cdb2384be
Pro vibes, wanted to meet immediately, gets snarky if you ask questions (it's always the pros that get so mad easily).
Also I will add on this girl (https://members.seeking.com/member/0...6-9f41d9bf7551) "LatinaK" that she told me that her last arrangement she was in for a month and at the end she told me the guy threatened to call the cops on her and get his attorneys involved to get all the money back he had given her? I was thinking to myself. Hmmm. That's really fucking weird. Who knows how that really went down but clearly she is just a grifter and conned him too.
AlanHeckle
08-01-23, 23:30
FilipinoKitten.
https://members.seeking.com/member/526d174d-175a-48ad-8b8d-513cdb2384be
Pro vibes, wanted to meet immediately, gets snarky if you ask questions (it's always the pros that get so mad easily).This would be her (3rd profile in about a month. Seems more scam than pro tbh.
I read on here that you shouldn't ever pay a meet up fee. That's true right? This girl wants 100 bucks to meet up she seems nice enough but after what I just went through. Don't feel like paying just to meet somebody to talk to them. 100 bucks is nothing though. Still feels eh.
Marko Ramius
08-02-23, 00:09
You are paying them to leave. And leave you alone.
When I was younger I got into whoring not because it was the only way I could get pussy, but because I could be pretty damned sure that none of the ladies I engaged with would start calling me at work or show up at my apartment at 3 am pounding on my door. A lot of women, especially a lot of younger women, seem to be perfectly willing to engage their inner stalker if they feel they have been wronged.
FilipinoKitten.
https://members.seeking.com/member/526d174d-175a-48ad-8b8d-513cdb2384be
Pro vibes, wanted to meet immediately, gets snarky if you ask questions (it's always the pros that get so mad easily).Well that's to bad! I've been eyeballing her. She's a cutie too! Don't need the attitude.
Well that's to bad! I've been eyeballing her. She's a cutie too! Don't need the attitude.And she wanted 6 bills to play.
Marko Ramius
08-02-23, 11:08
Keep in mind that most of the sugar girls are pretty easily impressed. And the ones that aren't are probably pretty greedy and jaded and you don't want or need to bother with them.
So I make a point of taking them on a first meetup to a pretty nice restaurant. Nice enough that they've probably never been there or anyplace comparable. My own experience is that if you play that right they will basically throw themselves at you to get more of that alone.
Honestly I find it shocking how many girls in their 20's never seem to have been on a halfway decent date with any guy. So if you take them someplace nice, are reasonably clean, and are kind and courteous they will be out of their clothes and on their backs for you in short order.
Keep in mind that most of the sugar girls are pretty easily impressed. And the ones that aren't are probably pretty greedy and jaded and you don't want or need to bother with them.
So I make a point of taking them on a first meetup to a pretty nice restaurant. Nice enough that they've probably never been there or anyplace comparable. My own experience is that if you play that right they will basically throw themselves at you to get more of that alone.
Honestly I find it shocking how many girls in their 20's never seem to have been on a halfway decent date with any guy. So if you take them someplace nice, are reasonably clean, and are kind and courteous they will be out of their clothes and on their backs for you in short order.Hahaha, so no fast food joints or bikini stand meet ups, got it.
NYTransplant1
08-02-23, 13:09
https://members.seeking.com/member/7a0ade17-1117-4d5e-893a-4a99d2e7badf Birdie.
I rarely call out users for 'GPS' but she is claiming 600 PPM would be her minimum to entertain meeting and she currently has 'a few' that pay her 1500 PPM. She's cute, but not that cute.
It's not that 100 is a lot, it's a filter. The girl who wants money for a first meet is either a scam, or she is here primarily for the money. She's more likely to be fake, business like, semi-pro, or jaded.
The ideal SB is looking for a gentlman with the means and class to treat her well and give her experiences she can't get from guys her age, or she fetishizes older guys. These sort of real SBs don't need an added inentive to be treated to an expensive meal, she is happy to enjoy the experience. The alowance or PPM is just a way to make up for the time she spends with you, instead of working or hustling, so she has the freedom to enjoy your time together.
I read on here that you shouldn't ever pay a meet up fee. That's true right? This girl wants 100 bucks to meet up she seems nice enough but after what I just went through. Don't feel like paying just to meet somebody to talk to them. 100 bucks is nothing though. Still feels eh.
It's not that 100 is a lot, it's a filter. The girl who wants money for a first meet is either a scam, or she is here primarily for the money. She's more likely to be fake, business like, semi-pro, or jaded.Agreed. If you are just looking to smash, the $100 is the non-refundable application fee. But I am not expecting to develop a good long-term SR with someone with that as the start.
Searotic69
08-02-23, 17:28
https://skipthegames.com/posts/lynwood-wa/female-escorts/caucasian_e/playful-pleasure-professional/407253114358
Incall in Edmonds. Been texting her. Curious if anyone else had experience.
Michael1967
08-02-23, 17:49
https://members.seeking.com/member/7a0ade17-1117-4d5e-893a-4a99d2e7badf Birdie.
I rarely call out users for 'GPS' but she is claiming 600 PPM would be her minimum to entertain meeting and she currently has 'a few' that pay her 1500 PPM. She's cute, but not that cute.My question when I get that is if she has a "few" that pay her $1500 PPM why is she still trolling for people?
Any information on this one?
https://skipthegames.com/posts/lynwood-wa/female-escorts/caucasian_e/playful-pleasure-professional/407253114358
Incall in Edmonds. Been texting her. Curious if anyone else had experience.Heavy user, but hot body. Managed. If you can put up with her being out of it a lot, will let you do anything.
Member #6729
08-02-23, 20:26
https://skipthegames.com/posts/lynwood-wa/female-escorts/caucasian_e/playful-pleasure-professional/407253114358
Incall in Edmonds. Been texting her. Curious if anyone else had experience.This is the nonpro board, get that crap out of here. Can't why'all read? You literally had to post on a forum page that says "no pro" when you could have chosen another forum page like escort or the barebackproviders.
https://members.seeking.com/member/7a0ade17-1117-4d5e-893a-4a99d2e7badf Birdie.
I rarely call out users for 'GPS' but she is claiming 600 PPM would be her minimum to entertain meeting and she currently has 'a few' that pay her 1500 PPM. She's cute, but not that cute.For 1500, you can get a pornstar in Vegas.
Recently there's so many fakes with out of state numbers. Claiming to be in cap hill or DT and want little fee first and the rest in person. Seriously, do guys still fall for that.
Marko Ramius
08-03-23, 01:29
Hahaha, so no fast food joints or bikini stand meet ups, got it.Heck, I used to have awesome luck with a private dining room at Daniel's Broiler. Although usually I want to see how they act and interact with others when we are out in public.
PriceIsRight39
08-03-23, 01:33
My question when I get that is if she has a "few" that pay her $1500 PPM why is she still trolling for people?Because simps gone simp!
PriceIsRight39
08-03-23, 01:35
Keep in mind that most of the sugar girls are pretty easily impressed. And the ones that aren't are probably pretty greedy and jaded and you don't want or need to bother with them.
So I make a point of taking them on a first meetup to a pretty nice restaurant. Nice enough that they've probably never been there or anyplace comparable. My own experience is that if you play that right they will basically throw themselves at you to get more of that alone.
Honestly I find it shocking how many girls in their 20's never seem to have been on a halfway decent date with any guy. So if you take them someplace nice, are reasonably clean, and are kind and courteous they will be out of their clothes and on their backs for you in short order.I seriously doubt that. When they (20's) want to fuck, they get Chad. Not some old dude off seeking. Show me a 304 that's impressed by food?? LOL.
It's not that 100 is a lot, it's a filter. The girl who wants money for a first meet is either a scam, or she is here primarily for the money. She's more likely to be fake, business like, semi-pro, or jaded.
The ideal SB is looking for a gentlman with the means and class to treat her well and give her experiences she can't get from guys her age, or she fetishizes older guys. These sort of real SBs don't need an added inentive to be treated to an expensive meal, she is happy to enjoy the experience. The alowance or PPM is just a way to make up for the time she spends with you, instead of working or hustling, so she has the freedom to enjoy your time together.Yea I told her as much that 100 is neither here nor there if you become my sugar baby 100 bucks is nothing. A smart girl will see I am the real deal and will treat her right!
I am seeing a lot of scammers / fakes say they are in Capitol Hill. Out of state numbers etc. I am simply not messaging girls that joined recently, cause it appears those are just scammers. Too much wasted time talking to them.
"Heavy user, but hot body. Managed. If you can put up with her being out of it a lot, will let you do anything. ".
Mmmhmmm those girls can be the best The ones who are fucked up. Half drunk. Stoned etc. There is no fuss or attitude. They are just totally submissive to anything you want to do. It's great.
Watch out for a girl by the name of "LatinaK" She is a scammer. I admit I got scammed. Was the second girl I met off this site. I should have just listened to my gut.New scheme we should all be aware of? In my old and experienced sugar dating mind. I like to think I've seen it all and won't fall for it anymore. Worst that happens now days is plans are made and I get stood up last minute (or last minute they ask for money in advance).
To name one that got me within the last year. Meeting a woman I had seen 7-8 times to give an advance to when neither of us had time to meet that day (she was desperate) and her avoiding the 'no allowance' session afterwards until she ghosted. Figured after dating that many times she was reliable. Lesson learnt! Never advance and personally I have a strong preference for women who are not desperate as it's a sign of being a flake / liar / manipulator / etc. I mean. How many other guys on the site can an attractive woman give that sob story to?
Be careful out there!
Marko Ramius
08-03-23, 11:01
I seriously doubt that. When they (20's) want to fuck, they get Chad. Not some old dude off seeking. Show me a 304 that's impressed by food?? LOL.All I can say is that it works for me. 100 percent of the time. Not a lot of things I've found work that well, honestly.
Most of these girls have never been inside a restaurant much nicer than Olive Garden or Red Lobster.
New scheme we should all be aware of? In my old and experienced sugar dating mind. I like to think I've seen it all and won't fall for it anymore. Worst that happens now days is plans are made and I get stood up last minute (or last minute they ask for money in advance).
To name one that got me within the last year. Meeting a woman I had seen 7-8 times to give an advance to when neither of us had time to meet that day (she was desperate) and her avoiding the 'no allowance' session afterwards until she ghosted. Figured after dating that many times she was reliable. Lesson learnt! Never advance and personally I have a strong preference for women who are not desperate as it's a sign of being a flake / liar / manipulator / etc. I mean. How many other guys on the site can an attractive woman give that sob story to?
Be careful out there!Similar line, I was on business trip for 3-weeks so decide to try local scenery through SA. Set on tri-weekly meet with allowance. 1 week before the D-day, she says she is seeing someone cause she is desperate for money for her father who suffers mild stroke.
I was mad, cause she seems to elude advancement, so when I say I am not happy she blocks me.
The other things be careful also, any girls saying she is into SM, Greek etc. that'll get your motor running.
Next.
You're not wrong but at least for me I'm not really digging the older women (unless they are total smokeshows) because honestly I feel that I could get a 37 year old divorcee with kids normally. Why pay for it? Part of the appeal is getting that college woman who I couldn't get otherwise.My 2 cents (I'm late 40's). The 18-25 crowd is flakey. I don't have time to mess around. The 28-35 crowd is no nonsense, better in bed, doesn't get contacted as much, better communicators, and know the drill. Not just anyone, still 8's and 9's, girls who are in the gym a lot and spending money to look good. YMMV of course. Part of what I'm paying for is no BS, those women are better at that part.
NYTransplant1
08-03-23, 11:27
https://members.seeking.com/member/ae7f5805-8790-41e4-b39a-a3a366dbf1aa - CatsPajamas.
I'm apparently running terrible, with two straight 'GPS' women. The exact quote on this one was "my last two successful arrangements started with a ppm of 1000 and I'm looking to meet (or exceed) that this time around."
I kind of hate calling out the idea of "GPS" but I am surprised to hear these amounts. Been doing this 3 years with success and I typically go a bit higher than what most who post on here say they're comfortable with. Bananas to see almost 100-200% inflation in allowances all of a sudden.
Michael1967
08-03-23, 14:50
I seriously doubt that. When they (20's) want to fuck, they get Chad. Not some old dude off seeking. Show me a 304 that's impressed by food?? LOL.I'm going to disagree. A majority of the younger ones have never had someone take them to a nice place for dinner. They also haven't had a guy open the door for them, pull their chair out so they can sit and a bunch of other shit that we were taught to do that no one seems to do any more. They aren't fucking us because they're horny; they're fucking us because they want money. But treating them better than someone their age would, gets them to actually like us. I'm back in the regular dating pool, but I still have a SB carryover from last year, that goes to dinner with me and hangs out occasionally. I don't give her money any more and I haven't been screwing her (though it almost happened Monday), but I'm also no longer paying her, she's going out with me because she likes me. She's 27.
I have a friend that is 60+ and ugly as fuck. He has (or had. IRS got him) money and a horde of SBs that were 19-23. He was married He is actually the one that got me started looking into the SB scene many years ago. Anyway, I knew most of the girls he was seeing because we hung out together a lot. I probably asked 4-5 of them what they were doing with an old, ugly, hairy guy that was 3 times their age. Their responses were all the same. Basically, "He treats me better than any I guy I've ever been with. I was grossed out at first, but he's really a sweet man. I'd rather be with him than a guy my age that treats me like shit. ".
Yes, money has something to with it, but when I civi date, I still occasionally get people 20-25 years younger than me because I treat them how I was taught to treat women by my mother and how I expect men to treat my daughters. Younger men don't do that.
https://members.seeking.com/member/ae7f5805-8790-41e4-b39a-a3a366dbf1aa - CatsPajamas.
I'm apparently running terrible, with two straight 'GPS' women. The exact quote on this one was "my last two successful arrangements started with a ppm of 1000 and I'm looking to meet (or exceed) that this time around."
I kind of hate calling out the idea of "GPS" but I am surprised to hear these amounts. Been doing this 3 years with success and I typically go a bit higher than what most who post on here say they're comfortable with. Bananas to see almost 100-200% inflation in allowances all of a sudden.Reminds me of the quote "for every beautiful woman out there, there is a guy bored of fucking her".
I am sure there are wealthy men out there who don't blink at $1 k but my suspicion is that it's more like a guy who fixates on a particular girl and justifies paying for a ludicrously high arrangement. It certainly shortens the negotiation. But they lose interest in a month or two and probably won't repeat.
My 2 cents (I'm late 40's). The 18-25 crowd is flakey. I don't have time to mess around. The 28-35 crowd is no nonsense, better in bed, doesn't get contacted as much, better communicators, and know the drill. Not just anyone, still 8's and 9's, girls who are in the gym a lot and spending money to look good. YMMV of course. Part of what I'm paying for is no BS, those women are better at that part.One thing you also have to consider is that the 18-25 crowd and on the younger of that age range is at the point in there life that bad decisions don't really show up on there body as much so you can't really use there body a lot of times as an good indication of how well they take care of themselves or there lifestyle. If they are 28-30+ and they are still smoking hot. You know they have taken really really good care of themselves and eat right. If they are already looking rough at 18-21 they clearly are living a bad lifestyle.
I have had nothing but GPS girls except this one girl who is offering me 250 ppm for 3 hours. She is really hot too. Not from America. Says all is included. I didn't ask what that includes. Should I?
I got a message back from a girl who wants 800-1 k per week for a girl who is slightly above average in terms of looks. Nothing that special. It seems like I just won't be able to afford any of these girls. I had seen what looked like reasonable ppm's on here and thought I could find a girl for 300-500 PPM and have some choices. It doesn't appear from anything I've ever seen that any of these girls are going to fall into that.
I got catfished. I don't want too post the members details on here in case she watches this thread. I tried to make the best of the situation though. Her photographs made her look really skinny, great use of angles. What a joke LOL.
If they are 28-30+ and they are still smoking hot. You know they have taken really really good care of themselves and eat right. If they are already looking rough at 18-21 they clearly are living a bad lifestyle.That's true but I'm not in it for the longer term. But fitness and taking care of themselves helps. Nothing like banging a tight fitness girl.
I have had nothing but GPS girls except this one girl who is offering me 250 ppm for 3 hours. She is really hot too. Not from America. Says all is included. I didn't ask what that includes. Should I?Nope don't ask. Just assume CIP and go from there. Be aware of the usual scams.
I got a message back from a girl who wants 800-1 k per week for a girl who is slightly above average in terms of looks. Nothing that special. It seems like I just won't be able to afford any of these girls. I had seen what looked like reasonable ppm's on here and thought I could find a girl for 300-500 PPM and have some choices. It doesn't appear from anything I've ever seen that any of these girls are going to fall into that.Lots of girls have GPS syndrome. Offer the 300, if they aren't interested, say thanks and go on your way. I've had more than one girl message me back after some time and go for my original offer they weren't interested in. They have to figure this out for themselves. Just be a normal guy.
I am sure there are wealthy men out there who don't blink at $1 k but my suspicion is that it's more like a guy who fixates on a particular girl and justifies paying for a ludicrously high arrangement. It certainly shortens the negotiation. But they lose interest in a month or two and probably won't repeat.Why would you drop 1 k on her though? Browsing on seeking it's not uncommon to see perfect 10's for whatever your preference is. If they have a decent personality, sure some wealthy guy will pay $1 k for them, and I bet they are earning it. Not regular looking girls like her.
KindCutie.
https://members.seeking.com/member/aa3bf7fc-0a24-4c81-a172-5c0c9dae411c
She is late 30's, cute but really nothing extraordinary.
First thing she asked when switching to text.
"What is your ballpark budget. I run higher than some".
I offer 400, she replied that would only cover oral.
Why would you drop 1 k on her though? Browsing on seeking it's not uncommon to see perfect 10's for whatever your preference is. If they have a decent personality, sure some wealthy guy will pay $1 k for them, and I bet they are earning it. Not regular looking girls like her.That's your opinion. She's white, 22, HWP, gives a vibe in her bio. Like a lot of guys, I've learned that pure arm candy rarely satisfies behind closed doors. The point is that money and value aren't the same thing. One of the best encounters I've had cost me a buck fifty. It was a one time thing (and she left bite marks) but she was hot and the chemistry was there. Most of the guys paying $1 k are doing it so they don't have to talk, I guess.
Michael1967
08-04-23, 18:04
That's your opinion. She's white, 22, HWP, gives a vibe in her bio. Like a lot of guys, I've learned that pure arm candy rarely satisfies behind closed doors. The point is that money and value aren't the same thing. One of the best encounters I've had cost me a buck fifty. It was a one time thing (and she left bite marks) but she was hot and the chemistry was there. Most of the guys paying $1 k are doing it so they don't have to talk, I guess.I think most guys paying those sort of prices are doing it so they can brag about it. I have a client that bought a $100 K car. How do I know? He casually mentioned it about 10 times. I have a friend that has a $5000 bottle of whisky. How do I know? Because it's prominently displayed in his living room and he mentions it every time I'm over. I met some guy at a hotel I was staying at who was in the "presidential suite". How do I know? Because he regularly mentioned that he was in the presidential suite.
So, yes, I'm sure guys are paying $1000+ to hook up with a 22 YO and I'm assuming many are doing it to brag that they got a $1000+ piece of tail or to brag about how they banged a 22 YO. It's not the value of the tail, it's that they can tell others that they are paying $1,000+ for some tail. For me, I don't think I could look myself in the mirror if I was paying that much to get laid.
I had a potential SB (now friend) who was 19 at the time, tell me about how a guy offered her $2000 to spend the night with him. Unfortunately (for her) she was unaware of what would be expected if she was getting $2000 for a night. I felt bad because I know that if I'm paying $2 K, I'm getting every fantasy (deranged or not) out of my system. She told me she that if she knew she had to do all that, she would've asked for more. Now, her base is $2 K for a night (which is why we're just friends).
KindCutie.
https://members.seeking.com/member/aa3bf7fc-0a24-4c81-a172-5c0c9dae411c
She is late 30's, cute but really nothing extraordinary.
First thing she asked when switching to text.
"What is your ballpark budget. I run higher than some".
I offer 400, she replied that would only cover oral.She must like my pics, I was going to hook up with her in Oly for 300.
I got catfished. I don't want too post the members details on here in case she watches this thread. I tried to make the best of the situation though. Her photographs made her look really skinny, great use of angles. What a joke LOL.Pm the profile I will post it, if not you're not helping.
She must like my pics, I was going to hook up with her in Oly for 300.Now I am hurt.
Pm the profile I will post it, if not you're not helping.https://members.seeking.com/messages/inbox/8681732c-fd44-4315-a223-7249cef08d95
She knows what she's doing. That photo of her body on there make it look like she's skinny by a good margin and also she's not "average". That one pic has got to be many years old.
MilfHunter66
08-04-23, 23:46
https://members.seeking.com/messages/inbox/8681732c-fd44-4315-a223-7249cef08d95
She knows what she's doing. That photo of her body on there make it look like she's skinny by a good margin and also she's not "average". That one pic has got to be many years old.You posted the message, we can't open them.
On another note the fakes have just been insane the last couple of days. I've gotten over a dozen messages in the last two days. All were fake.
You posted the message, we can't open them.
On another note the fakes have just been insane the last couple of days. I've gotten over a dozen messages in the last two days. All were fake.Oh sorry. The member is named "troppywoppy". I blocked so I can't link the profile.
Any information on this one?
BBPornoGeek
08-05-23, 12:11
Do why'all put in real details in your profiles with pics?
Any information on this one?It is better to just post the link to their profile.
She was TGTBT, went a long with it. Practically agreed to everything. Getting close to time to meet to send her location to meet, asked if I had cashaap / zelle. Wanted me to send money, when she arrives.
I politely cancelled and she says that Karma’s a ***** for leading her on.
https://members.seeking.com/member/81102f5a-4fde-4a0a-84c4-0e68bb5a3083??locale=en_USS
SeaTownGuy
08-05-23, 18:05
She was TGTBT, went a long with it. Practically agreed to everything. Getting close to time to meet to send her location to meet, asked if I had cashaap / zelle. Wanted me to send money, when she arrives.
I politely cancelled and she says that Karmas a ***** for leading her on.
https://members.seeking.com/member/81102f5a-4fde-4a0a-84c4-0e68bb5a3083??locale=en_USSShe has changed her city like 10 times. No real intention to meet.
Member #6729
08-05-23, 18:39
https://members.seeking.com/member/ae7f5805-8790-41e4-b39a-a3a366dbf1aa - CatsPajamas.
I'm apparently running terrible, with two straight 'GPS' women. The exact quote on this one was "my last two successful arrangements started with a ppm of 1000 and I'm looking to meet (or exceed) that this time around."
I kind of hate calling out the idea of "GPS" but I am surprised to hear these amounts. Been doing this 3 years with success and I typically go a bit higher than what most who post on here say they're comfortable with. Bananas to see almost 100-200% inflation in allowances all of a sudden.Average looking face and average looking body for 1 k+ LOL f no.
ScotchYoke
08-05-23, 22:37
she says that Karmas a ***** for leading her on.
https://members.seeking.com/member/81102f5a-4fde-4a0a-84c4-0e68bb5a3083??locale=en_USSPeople who throw that phrase around have never stopped and done any introspection to figure out what exactly what it is that they've done wrong that puts them on the bad end of karma. Being a victim at its finest. Karma is a two-way street, after all.
Should have known better. After a really cool 1st date she asked for some money and said it would be applied to are scheduled 2nd. After I sent it to her she never responded to text messages and blocked me on SA. Grabbed her account info before she did.
https://members.seeking.com/member/5cff31cc-4a10-448f-bd67-dc86319acc3f
Should have known better. After a really cool 1st date she asked for some money and said it would be applied to are scheduled 2nd. After I sent it to her she never responded to text messages and blocked me on SA. Grabbed her account info before she did.
https://members.seeking.com/member/5cff31cc-4a10-448f-bd67-dc86319acc3fI am not surprised. A lot of these girls are just thieves.
https://members.seeking.com/member/31a2156a-accb-4fd8-b87a-ece393867d57
Watch out for this girl. I was talking to her before her account got deactivated. She just created a new one.
Unfortunately while I think everybody would have more success with a young newbie then an old vet. You can't really tell who is just a scammer and who is a well meaning newbie on this site because there are so many new accounts being created by the scammers.
Should have known better. After a really cool 1st date she asked for some money and said it would be applied to are scheduled 2nd. After I sent it to her she never responded to text messages and blocked me on SA. Grabbed her account info before she did.
https://members.seeking.com/member/5cff31cc-4a10-448f-bd67-dc86319acc3fProfile is gone or I already blocked for some reason, did you get laid at least?
MilfHunter66
08-06-23, 17:39
https://members.seeking.com/member/31a2156a-accb-4fd8-b87a-ece393867d57
Watch out for this girl. I was talking to her before her account got deactivated. She just created a new one.
Unfortunately while I think everybody would have more success with a young newbie then an old vet. You can't really tell who is just a scammer and who is a well meaning newbie on this site because there are so many new accounts being created by the scammers.From what I'm seeing 90% of new accounts are fake / scammers.
Out of the last 20 that I messaged or messaged me only 2 have been maybe real. One I texted all day yesterday and we are planning to meet next week. We will see. The other I'm still messaging on the site. Both are in there early to mid 30's though and are looking for a longer term arrangement.
From what I'm seeing 90% of new accounts are fake / scammers.
Out of the last 20 that I messaged or messaged me only 2 have been maybe real. One I texted all day yesterday and we are planning to meet next week. We will see. The other I'm still messaging on the site. Both are in there early to mid 30's though and are looking for a longer term arrangement.Hell, even the real ones will ghost you at the drop of a hat if you say anything remotely imperfect.
Marko Ramius
08-06-23, 21:37
Hell, even the real ones will ghost you at the drop of a hat if you say anything remotely imperfect.Hell, I do the same thing. If there is anything that is even a tiny bit off I block and move on. We'd all save a lot of time if everyone did the same.
Here are a couple that I have seen that are real:
Missmia: https://members.seeking.com/member/4fd0ec34-37ec-4527-a379-8d8b467aa77e.
She is petite and cute, saw her a few times at my place. 350 for cfs, everything else bare; the first couple times were BBFS but things changed for her. PM me if you want the details. I stopped seeing her because she is in Tacoma and was constantly hitting me up for money.
Latinaflavors: https://members.seeking.com/member/e8955f10-d546-401c-94e7-31f43fa4e497.
I saw her a couple years ago during early covid at my place. She was 350 for cfs, everything else bare. Only saw her once but had plans to meet up again a couple times but she flaked at the last minute. She's a bit of a hippie chick.
PriceIsRight39
08-08-23, 15:18
You're not wrong but at least for me I'm not really digging the older women (unless they are total smokeshows) because honestly I feel that I could get a 37 year old divorcee with kids normally. Why pay for it? Part of the appeal is getting that college woman who I couldn't get otherwise.The older ones are like being interrogated on a date. Haha And will try in back door into a " real " relationship! I'd ask them, what can you give me the you not already given another (s) man! Hummmm? Yea, nothing.
Over 27 on sale, over 30 50% off, 35? Clearance! 40? Outlet! Over 45. Goodwill! Now many good dudes will buy in sale, but the boss babes " won't settle. " LOL feminism has crushed women and freed men!!
Happy hunting.
P.S. Phoenix will get you under 25 poon for 500, tops! There's so many! At least so far. Keep the tech companies away and it'll be fine. LOL.
Member #6729
08-09-23, 00:16
The older ones are like being interrogated on a date. Haha And will try in back door into a " real " relationship! I'd ask them, what can you give me the you not already given another (s) man! Hummmm? Yea, nothing.
Over 27 on sale, over 30 50% off, 35? Clearance! 40? Outlet! Over 45. Goodwill! Now many good dudes will buy in sale, but the boss babes " won't settle. " LOL feminism has crushed women and freed men!!
Happy hunting.
P.S. Phoenix will get you under 25 poon for 500, tops! There's so many! At least so far. Keep the tech companies away and it'll be fine. LOL.Ruined women and men. If it had "freed men" as you say, statistically there wouldn't be so many losers around and men's depression wouldn't be sky high. That's not an opinion that's a fact.
Ruined women and men. If it had "freed men" as you say, statistically there wouldn't be so many losers around and men's depression wouldn't be sky high. That's not an opinion that's a fact.It freed the incels who were unable to evolve to fail and the adaptive men to succeed.
It freed the incels who were unable to evolve to fail and the adaptive men to succeed.If we are going to get sociological, this has a lot more to do with neoliberal economic trends than any kind of gender politics. I've seen guy / SD profiles on seeking, trust me this is about commodification of relationships not sexual liberation, LOL.
If we are going to get sociological, this has a lot more to do with neoliberal economic trends than any kind of gender politics. I've seen guy / SD profiles on seeking, trust me this is about commodification of relationships not sexual liberation, LOL.It can be both. Wealth disparity brought on by neoliberal economic trends and awareness of such by the masses in social media causes a gap in the supply / demand expectations of everyone in the transactional relationship market that has existed forever. Adaptive males figure out what the sexually liberated / sex positive younger generation of SBs want and give that to them and it isn't only money. This obviously doesn't count for the semi-pros or supermodels looking to find a Dubai Daddy but if people are having trouble pulling smart, attractive <30 year olds for long-term consistent things it probably isn't a wallet problem unless they should be on the local board and not an SD site in the first place.
Does anybody have any hook ups in the skaggit county area?
Member #6729
08-09-23, 22:51
It freed the incels who were unable to evolve to fail and the adaptive men to succeed.Lmao that's a funny way of putting it. However, it did not "free" men. Losers are still losers, except not they can just pay for it 😆all those tech losers in Seattle. Still losers. Still not free but they just have money and can pay LOL.
It can be both. Wealth disparity brought on by neoliberal economic trends and awareness of such by the masses in social media causes a gap in the supply / demand expectations of everyone in the transactional relationship market that has existed forever. Adaptive males figure out what the sexually liberated / sex positive younger generation of SBs want and give that to them and it isn't only money. This obviously doesn't count for the semi-pros or supermodels looking to find a Dubai Daddy but if people are having trouble pulling smart, attractive <30 year olds for long-term consistent things it probably isn't a wallet problem unless they should be on the local board and not an SD site in the first place.This is an interesting discussion, but I know we are here for info not talk. I agree w you, essentially. I have had success because I offer more than just money, but nothing has lasted more than 3 mos w a girl <30 because they're so flaky at that stage in life. Also, not great in bed. One 23 yo promised me her oral skills were unbeatable and loved kink. I didn't have the heart to tell her she was not good at either. It's not easy finding true non-pros that respect your time and are fun in bed, if you found one write a post!
Michael1967
08-10-23, 14:05
This is an interesting discussion, but I know we are here for info not talk. I agree w you, essentially. I have had success because I offer more than just money, but nothing has lasted more than 3 mos w a girl <30 because they're so flaky at that stage in life. Also, not great in bed. One 23 yo promised me her oral skills were unbeatable and loved kink. I didn't have the heart to tell her she was not good at either. It's not easy finding true non-pros that respect your time and are fun in bed, if you found one write a post!EVERY woman thinks she gives the best head. Nope. The vast majority are terrible at it. This is mainly our fault, because we're so happy to get a BJ that we tell them they are fantastic (who is actually going to say, "Jeez, that was horrible") when the reality is that we just want them to keep trying. I'm at the point now that if they're doing a terrible job, I just stop them all they are going to do it hurt me (or rub it raw). The ones that think they're great in bed, well. They'll know when we're finished if they are good in bed. Again, it's our fault. They get with guys that are done in 5 minutes and think it's because they were fantastic. No. That isn't why. It's because the guys they have been with are either inexperienced or terrible. I regularly get the privilege of hearing my neighbor go at it with his girlfriend. I'm embarrassed for him. It really is like 2 minutes max; then they regularly fight because he thinks she's cheating on him. Well, from her perspective, I could see why she'd do it. If you're going to last 2 minutes, then you need to work on other parts of your repertoire.
Member #6729
08-11-23, 01:02
This is an interesting discussion, but I know we are here for info not talk. I agree w you, essentially. I have had success because I offer more than just money, but nothing has lasted more than 3 mos w a girl <30 because they're so flaky at that stage in life. Also, not great in bed. One 23 yo promised me her oral skills were unbeatable and loved kink. I didn't have the heart to tell her she was not good at either. It's not easy finding true non-pros that respect your time and are fun in bed, if you found one write a post!Yes, you're correct. We're here for the info. Sometimes I just like talking smack haha.
EVERY woman thinks she gives the best head. Nope. The vast majority are terrible at it. This is mainly our fault, because we're so happy to get a BJ that we tell them they are fantastic (who is actually going to say, "Jeez, that was horrible") when the reality is that we just want them to keep trying.LMAO so true.
PriceIsRight39
08-12-23, 16:24
Ruined women and men. If it had "freed men" as you say, statistically there wouldn't be so many losers around and men's depression wouldn't be sky high. That's not an opinion that's a fact.They freed if they just open their eyes!! It's plain as the nose on our faces. Now perhaps we should clarify what we mean by " men. " In that case, ya. Normies gone normie.
I should have said freed men that put in the work!
My bad.
MaachoMaan
08-13-23, 19:44
Any intel on this one?
Member #6729
08-13-23, 20:22
They freed if they just open their eyes!! It's plain as the nose on our faces. Now perhaps we should clarify what we mean by " men. " In that case, ya. Normies gone normie.
I should have said freed men that put in the work!
My bad.Defining "men" should definitely be first. "Men" of this age are still children. Yes men who see through all the bs are definitely free but that's a very small amount.
Any intel on this one?Not my type, but report back. https://fetlife.com/users/7010850.
FabricBuster
08-14-23, 01:32
Here are a couple that I have seen that are real:
Missmia: https://members.seeking.com/member/4fd0ec34-37ec-4527-a379-8d8b467aa77e.
She is petite and cute, saw her a few times at my place. 350 for cfs, everything else bare; the first couple times were BBFS but things changed for her. PM me if you want the details. I stopped seeing her because she is in Tacoma and was constantly hitting me up for money.You guys usually invite these women back to your place? Isn't there a risk in doing that vs a hotel, Airbnb etc.?
Country Boi81
08-14-23, 22:52
Not my type, but report back. https://fetlife.com/users/7010850.Didn't get vibe she meets in person.
Have seen this one post few times in SD forums.
https://fetlife.com/users/6583686
MaachoMaan
08-15-23, 21:53
Any intel on this one?
https://members.seeking.com/messages/inbox/0d35eded-6709-432c-a533-6f881c33ce64
Any intel on this one?
https://members.seeking.com/messages/inbox/0d35eded-6709-432c-a533-6f881c33ce64https://members.seeking.com/member/1d4b24c1-93f5-4268-b8a5-bce4ab19fc99
New profile, old SB, have seen her in other profiles for a while.
We tried to meet but for whatever reason we never did, girls that do kot smile in their pictures kind of get at the end of my line.
She has been pretty desperate lately randomly asking for money.
PriceIsRight39
08-16-23, 02:07
Defining "men" should definitely be first. "Men" of this age are still children. Yes men who see through all the bs are definitely free but that's a very small amount.I'm happy to finally be part of the exclusive club. But I agree, it's small.
PriceIsRight39
08-16-23, 02:10
It can be both. Wealth disparity brought on by neoliberal economic trends and awareness of such by the masses in social media causes a gap in the supply / demand expectations of everyone in the transactional relationship market that has existed forever. Adaptive males figure out what the sexually liberated / sex positive younger generation of SBs want and give that to them and it isn't only money. This obviously doesn't count for the semi-pros or supermodels looking to find a Dubai Daddy but if people are having trouble pulling smart, attractive <30 year olds for long-term consistent things it probably isn't a wallet problem unless they should be on the local board and not an SD site in the first place.The disparity is nothing more than lazy. The info for the best life is out there. Getting there is hard, it sucks, and most quit.
Nothing to do in the USA anyway with neoliberal nada.
https://members.seeking.com/member/1d4b24c1-93f5-4268-b8a5-bce4ab19fc99
New profile, old SB, have seen her in other profiles for a while.
We tried to meet but for whatever reason we never did, girls that do kot smile in their pictures kind of get at the end of my line.
She has been pretty desperate lately randomly asking for money.The first thing I wonder if a girl doesn't ever smile in her photographs is does she have any teeth? Or are a lot missing? Or is she just a stone cold *****? It's usually one of these reasons.
The disparity is nothing more than lazy. The info for the best life is out there. Getting there is hard, it sucks, and most quit.
Nothing to do in the USA anyway with neoliberal nada.This is a really funny statement coming from someone who has to pay women for sex. Sit down and be grateful, let's get back to what this board is for. LOL.
The first thing I wonder if a girl doesn't ever smile in her photographs is does she have any teeth? Or are a lot missing? Or is she just a stone cold *****? It's usually one of these reasons.Almost as bad as bios that scream entitlement like "I know my worth" or some such. You can generally get an accurate vibe of a person without sending or receiving a single message.
Most guys don't want to deal with a stuck up leech of a princess. From what I've seen, a lot fit that bill due to the huge amount of messages they get, especially if it's an older profile around the Seattle area.
Michael1967
08-16-23, 16:32
Almost as bad as bios that scream entitlement like "I know my worth" or some such. You can generally get an accurate vibe of a person without sending or receiving a single message.
Most guys don't want to deal with a stuck up leech of a princess. From what I've seen, a lot fit that bill due to the huge amount of messages they get, especially if it's an older profile around the Seattle area.Yes. The second I see "I know my worth", I move on. Its not a matter of them knowing their worth, it usually means they overvalued themselves and don't want to accept what most guys are offering.
Anyone have info on this one? Quickly moved to text, wants 500 ppm.
Anyone have info on this one? Quickly moved to text, wants 500 ppm.You got a link to her profile?
I shot out a ton of messages to multiple girls to set up dates and arrangements. Did get some responses but most lead to nothing.
https://members.seeking.com/member/a06c4358-b818-4a32-acbd-e0eb323554dc
Hit this one up the day prior set everything up, 450 for PPM, agreed on CFS everything else was bare. Confirmed with her mid-day on the day of, then nothing as time got closer. Checked with her about an hour out and nothing. Saw that she was online. Maybe FAKE profile.
https://members.seeking.com/member/0b455294-4f2d-44aa-9b66-6fe265f916f6
Hit up this one and was talking with her for couple weeks. Decided to meet up and she texted the day of and said she couldn't make it. Agreed to 400 w / BBFS with recent tests. Maybe FAKE.
https://members.seeking.com/member/238965d9-f23d-4d13-a17f-c78ef2d2cf92
Talked with this one for a couple weeks. Made arrangements, agreed on 500 BBFS with recent test results but could possibly talk her down. Met up with her, looks like pic, body looked good not tight but still really good, the pics are accurate. Did BBFS w / CIP x2 rds. Would definitely repeat with this one.
https://members.seeking.com/member/73886eb1-8c94-451e-b618-16b37e353658
Met up with this one for 400, did BBFS w / CIP x2, need recent tests results as well. Little firecracker. Thicker in person but not fat, nice thick ass, was down to do BB Greek but just didn't have lube. Loves to F! Good head game. Great experience, would probably repeat.
Before anyone DMs me, no I will not give out their numbers. Thats for you to work through the site.
Good Luck!
Anyone have info on this one? Quickly moved to text, wants 500 ppm.Heavily managed. There are a lot of negative reports on her in this thread.
I shot out a ton of messages to multiple girls to set up dates and arrangements. Did get some responses but most lead to nothing.
https://members.seeking.com/member/238965d9-f23d-4d13-a17f-c78ef2d2cf92
Talked with this one for a couple weeks. Made arrangements, agreed on 500 BBFS with recent test results but could possibly talk her down. Met up with her, looks like pic, body looked good not tight but still really good, the pics are accurate. Did BBFS w / CIP x2 rds. Would definitely repeat with this one.
https://members.seeking.com/member/73886eb1-8c94-451e-b618-16b37e353658
Met up with this one for 400, did BBFS w / CIP x2, need recent tests results as well. Little firecracker. Thicker in person but not fat, nice thick ass, was down to do BB Greek but just didn't have lube. Loves to F! Good head game. Great experience, would probably repeat.
Before anyone DMs me, no I will not give out their numbers. Thats for you to work through the site.
Good Luck!Were these last two within Seattle or elsewhere, and do you know if they could host? Thanks for the reports.
You got a link to her profile?Unfortunately she has blocked me.
ScotchYoke
08-20-23, 19:22
You got a link to her profile?https://members.seeking.com/member/965bed0b-5251-420d-9f5e-9b29eebbac1e
Were these last two within Seattle or elsewhere, and do you know if they could host? Thanks for the reports.They were both within the Seattle area. I didn't ask them to see if they could host. I feel like its more of a rush when they host so I just had them come over to the spot I was staying at.
https://members.seeking.com/member/965bed0b-5251-420d-9f5e-9b29eebbac1eActually had a few texts with her, she quoted 450 for CFS with everything else bare. Asked about BBFS, she said 1 K. That's as far as that went.
Were these last two within Seattle or elsewhere, and do you know if they could host? Thanks for the reports. ..............
Were these last two within Seattle or elsewhere, and do you know if they could host? Thanks for the reports.I had fucked both, for a lower allowance, BTW. Second to last can host and has a flexible schedule, last one does not host and is available only after work hours. Both in Seatle metro area.
Actually had a few texts with her, she quoted 450 for CFS with everything else bare. Asked about BBFS, she said 1 K. That's as far as that went.She gave you a discount then https://tryst.link/escort/molly-love2.
SaladHermit
08-21-23, 02:48
Does anyone have any recent intel on her? She's been on the site before with a different profile.
I was supposed to meet up with her about a year back, but last minute she tried to reschedule and I never ended up seeing her.
https://members.seeking.com/member/ee8fa326-f265-42cf-8d38-15664d0d2815
Does anyone have any recent intel on her? She's been on the site before with a different profile.
I was supposed to meet up with her about a year back, but last minute she tried to reschedule and I never ended up seeing her.
https://members.seeking.com/member/ee8fa326-f265-42cf-8d38-15664d0d2815She looks like Babygirlcat on the other board. https://www.tnaboard.com/member.php?585174-BabygirlCat.
I personally have not seen her but did text her, she quoted me something like 800 for BBFS. Too rich for me.
Good luck!
MassageMeow
08-21-23, 04:02
She looks like Babygirlcat on the other board. https://www.tnaboard.com/member.php?585174-BabygirlCat.
I personally have not seen her but did text her, she quoted me something like 800 for BBFS. Too rich for me.
Good luck!Good shout, appears to be the same tattoo on the back.
DickIncider12
08-21-23, 04:07
She looks like Babygirlcat on the other board. https://www.tnaboard.com/member.php?585174-BabygirlCat.
I personally have not seen her but did text her, she quoted me something like 800 for BBFS. Too rich for me.
Good luck!Also you texting with her Manager / BF puts up all her ads on the other board and he drives her to the outcalls. Not sure if he or she is one you message with on SA be careful.
Good shout, appears to be the same tattoo on the back.Same with the tattoo on her arm.
PriceIsRight39
08-21-23, 16:00
Also you texting with her Manager / BF puts up all her ads on the other board and he drives her to the outcalls. Not sure if he or she is one you message with on SA be careful.Those pics SCREAM manager. LOL! Jesus make it obvious. Hahah pumps are " real men." Yea they send a weak woman to earn them money. Lower than whale turds. LOL.
PriceIsRight39
08-21-23, 16:05
She gave you a discount then https://tryst.link/escort/molly-love2.She's all over the place and heavily managed. Been around with several different profiles the last 4-5 years (different cities) TNA, STG, SA, them. Total pro. Speaks with forked tongue!
The discount is cause times getting hard and the wall approaches. Tyrone needs new Jordans. LOL.
PriceIsRight39
08-21-23, 16:07
Unfortunately she has blocked me.Did you a favor! Trust me!
PriceIsRight39
08-21-23, 16:15
https://members.seeking.com/member/965bed0b-5251-420d-9f5e-9b29eebbac1eBeen around the block!
https://www.eroticmonkey.ch/molly4daddie-escort-spokane-1004122#erotic.
PriceIsRight39
08-21-23, 16:21
This is a really funny statement coming from someone who has to pay women for sex. Sit down and be grateful, let's get back to what this board is for. LOL.Every man pays! Fancy stuff, degrees, etc. We all pay for that to access ladies. As we should!
I stop spying my mortgage a certain pussy dries up (just sayin'). There is " free sex " on Tinder. Just ask my homie who knocked one up there how free that booty.
Was? LOL.
But sure I'll get back to the pussy reports. I got a couple in Seattle that have been cool.
DM.
She looks like Babygirlcat on the other board. https://www.tnaboard.com/member.php?585174-BabygirlCat.
I personally have not seen her but did text her, she quoted me something like 800 for BBFS. Too rich for me.
Good luck!Can also confirm 800 and I didn't even ask a single thing in regards to services yet. She screamed pro in her responses and I was more wondering what number she would want.
Said she was getting blasted in texts and sends explicit pics to try to entice you.
DickIncider12
08-21-23, 17:29
Can also confirm 800 and I didn't even ask a single thing in regards to services yet. She screamed pro in her responses and I was more wondering what number she would want.
Said she was getting blasted in texts and sends explicit pics to try to entice you.Her manger does all the texting she don't even know who she is meeting just rides along.
https://members.seeking.com/member/238965d9-f23d-4d13-a17f-c78ef2d2cf92
Talked with this one for a couple weeks. Made arrangements, agreed on 500 BBFS with recent test results but could possibly talk her down. Met up with her, looks like pic, body looked good not tight but still really good, the pics are accurate. Did BBFS w / CIP x2 rds. Would definitely repeat with this one.
Good Luck!JHC! Those tits are worth the price of admission alone! They must weigh 10 lbs each! Do they stand up on their own?
She gave you a discount then https://tryst.link/escort/molly-love2.They always charge more on tryst and PD. Not sure why but they do.
PriceIsRight39
08-21-23, 19:04
Her manger does all the texting she don't even know who she is meeting just rides along.Jesus Christ. What a life she's leading! Ask her to face time!! LOL.
PriceIsRight39
08-21-23, 19:07
JHC! Those tits are worth the price of admission alone! They must weigh 10 lbs each! Do they stand up on their own?They'd bruise your eye. I don't like big girls, but I'm about to make an exception!! I once heard a rabbi proclaim (I really wish I remember the source, it was on a doc) the bigger (not obese) women were more pleasurable in bed. Brother was on to something.
I'm close to sending a msg!! LOL.
PriceIsRight39
08-21-23, 19:10
They always charge more on tryst and PD. Not sure why but they do.She's Mollylove2. Molly love one must have got blown up! LOL.
She's on TNA too maybe that it'll be less! I'd be careful bringing her to your home.
Any info on this one? And if anyone wants to trade videos from girls on seeking only pm me.
SeasonedDaddy
08-23-23, 03:59
Any info on Sophistigraceful?
https://members.seeking.com/member/d372fe0c-354e-4f97-83ba-2b38895e9df8
Planning on meeting her, so any intel would be helpful.
Any info on this one? And if anyone wants to trade videos from girls on seeking only pm me.Don't have much to say but she replied 'hey' when I favorited her and didn't even read my bio, so I assumed she's pro or a scammer.
Sweetbleu.
https://members.seeking.com/member/abff9929-626e-441e-ad84-f4692ff752c5
600 ppm and a paid m&g.Now goes by EnchantingGirl. Says she's not currently seeking. Which means you guys overloaded her calendar and I'm too late.
Now goes by EnchantingGirl. Says she's not currently seeking. Which means you guys overloaded her calendar and I'm too late.Her bio screams entitlement, one public pic, has a similar name to scammers / bots on the site now, can't host, and looking for a paid m&g to boot. Nowhere worth 600, maybe 300 at most. You can easily get women in their early 20's at 600.
She's probably not currently seeking because she gave up, not because she got a lot of offers.
Her bio screams entitlement, one public pic, has a similar name to scammers / bots on the site now, can't host, and looking for a paid m&g to boot. Nowhere worth 600, maybe 300 at most. You can easily get women in their early 20's at 600.
She's probably not currently seeking because she gave up, not because she got a lot of offers.Her profile used to say: "No glove, no love".
Her profile used to say: "No glove, no love".Classic up there with "I don't fuck on the first date". 90% chance to CIP.
SixtyNineX10
08-25-23, 13:07
Has anyone seen her or have any info. Please DM me.
https://members.seeking.com/member/5979f843-b578-4e2c-9191-276a7f166448
Has anyone seen her or have any info. Please DM me.
https://members.seeking.com/member/5979f843-b578-4e2c-9191-276a7f166448New account, 2 pictures, no text, only a few seeking items. Almost certainly a bot.
Wouldn't verify it's her, so probably fake.
MilfHunter66
08-27-23, 19:48
Messaged and texted with this one for a bit.
ReeceButtercup.
https://members.seeking.com/member/611701ab-2fcb-4162-a2ee-b166f5045446
Never got a firm price but I alluded to 3 and she seemed maybe ok with that.
The bad new was everything covered and no kissing plus she can't host. She did say she would kiss with current test results. I ask her if she was ok with daty. She said it was ok but it didn't do anything for her. I figured she would just be another starfish just going through the motions, not my cup of tea.
Does anyone else have the problem that they click the links and it says the girl isn't found search for another match?
It's frustrating. I want to meet some of these ladies!
Twister100
08-30-23, 12:38
https://members.seeking.com/member/d616164c-e75a-4047-a677-0a311caa61ee
Pic seller.
MilfHunter66
08-30-23, 21:47
She is another pro.
https://members.seeking.com/member/8dfd0128-1fe6-4129-b8db-fa1a6363e546
She has a Profile on the other forum plus a few others.
We met in person and had dinner. I'm not going any further then that. She seemed ok but definitely not my type.
She wants consistency otherwise it's her normal rate of 5 LOL.
Some of these women are delusional.
She is another pro.
https://members.seeking.com/member/8dfd0128-1fe6-4129-b8db-fa1a6363e546
She has a Profile on the other forum plus a few others.
We met in person and had dinner. I'm not going any further then that. She seemed ok but definitely not my type.
She wants consistency otherwise it's her normal rate of 5 LOL.
Some of these women are delusional.I am surprised you even met up with her she's not even mid. She looks pretty chunky too.
MilfHunter66
08-31-23, 22:53
I am surprised you even met up with her she's not even mid. She looks pretty chunky too.She was rounder in person for sure. I didn't realize she had a profile on tryst and the big T untill she told me during the meeting.
I looked at her Tryst profile and said no way, not to her face though LOL.
Student loan interest resumes today and payments restart in October. If you're into college girls, you can use this to lock in your SB now!
Marko Ramius
09-01-23, 15:05
Student loan interest resumes today and payments restart in October. If you're into college girls, you can use this to lock in your SB now!With very few exceptions, people attending college full-time do not need to repay their student loans. So if someone tells you they are attending college and also need to repay their student loans, chances are they are lying to you. I know that might be surprising that these girls would lie to you, but it is what it is.
PriceIsRight39
09-01-23, 17:19
Student loan interest resumes today and payments restart in October. If you're into college girls, you can use this to lock in your SB now!I don't think so. They are so delusional at this point won't change their " worth. " They are totally lost. Nothing short of WW3 will wake these (most not all) THOTs attitude.
SM has ruined 18-30 yo and most 30-40 yo. They put here " manifesting. " At least in Seattle. I find someplace like AZ you have much better luck as fat with a bad attitude doesn't sell as well. They on better behavior there or starve. LOL.
PriceIsRight39
09-01-23, 17:23
Blocked me pretty fast.
I reach out to verify as pic sellers to report their azzes. Got my proof. Informed SA, so now y'all know.
This is a men's space (we have the means not them) so I act accordingly.
Site is nearing the cliff.
Happy hunting.
PriceIsRight39
09-01-23, 17:25
I am surprised you even met up with her she's not even mid. She looks pretty chunky too.No kidding. Jeez! A 4 tops! She should get no responses. IMO.
PriceIsRight39
09-01-23, 17:27
Classic up there with "I don't fuck on the first date". 90% chance to CIP.Yea when a girl says " I don't do. She means with you! LOL Chad gets it all. They break all their rules for Pookie! Haha so funny. So get at her like a Pookie and you'll be bustin in there in no time!
PriceIsRight39
09-01-23, 17:30
Now goes by EnchantingGirl. Says she's not currently seeking. Which means you guys overloaded her calendar and I'm too late.Jesus Christ men! She's 36! Should bu paying us! You can see the outline of her body through the bricks in that wall!
Overloaded with what? Ok maybe for a dinner (Outback) I'd slide in. I'll admit.
PriceIsRight39
09-01-23, 17:34
Any info on Sophistigraceful?
https://members.seeking.com/member/d372fe0c-354e-4f97-83ba-2b38895e9df8
Planning on meeting her, so any intel would be helpful.You know Imma bust yo balls a little. Remember over 25, discount, over, 30 on sale, over 35 Clearance, over 40 Goodwill!
Just as a guide on rates. Hehe. I'd get a full body unfiltered pic.
Hey I'm just chirping ya! I'm sure she's magical.
CuriosityKat
09-04-23, 00:24
Didn't contact her, she freaked when I didn't respond in a way she thought was proper.
She's hot as hell, if her photos are real but ain't no level of hot that deals with isnane.
Twister100
09-04-23, 15:07
Didn't contact her, she freaked when I didn't respond in a way she thought was proper.
She's hot as hell, if her photos are real but ain't no level of hot that deals with isnane.https://members.seeking.com/member/034a98a6-3a19-4e90-a33f-71816b300477
I got a similar message from her when I didn't respond and ignored her. She ranted and "taught me a lesson" by blocking me LOL. She previously went by FlirtyBelle and has been mentioned on here under that name.
Twister100
09-04-23, 15:11
https://members.seeking.com/member/44253a8d-908b-497a-8ad5-02db8247a40f
Ghosted after I told her I didn't do paid meet and greets.
SocratesRvng
09-04-23, 20:12
You know Imma bust yo balls a little. Remember over 25, discount, over, 30 on sale, over 35 Clearance, over 40 Goodwill!
Just as a guide on rates. Hehe. I'd get a full body unfiltered pic.
Hey I'm just chirping ya! I'm sure she's magical.I always shop Goodwill. Better bang for the buck. Pun is intended.
She tried to sell me pics / vids showing how sexy and naughty she is. I declined and haven't heard from her again.
https://members.seeking.com/member/44253a8d-908b-497a-8ad5-02db8247a40f
Ghosted after I told her I didn't do paid meet and greets.
PPeterson1
09-04-23, 22:17
She tried to sell me pics / vids showing how sexy and naughty she is. I declined and haven't heard from her again.If I'm not mistaken, that photo is of Ashley Adams, a Porn star.
Coolboarder78
09-06-23, 00:56
Didn't contact her, she freaked when I didn't respond in a way she thought was proper.
She's hot as hell, if her photos are real but ain't no level of hot that deals with isnane.Girls on tinder are the same way.
Hell, women I've dated have called it quits for the same reason.
Fuuuuuuk That! They are not the center of the universe, and they can't figure out why they can't find a good man (daddy, or John).
PriceIsRight39
09-09-23, 18:20
I always shop Goodwill. Better bang for the buck. Pun is intended.I feel you dog!! LOL although I've had 40's ask for 1 k. Hahaha. No way.
PriceIsRight39
09-09-23, 18:23
I don't think so. They are so delusional at this point won't change their " worth. " They are totally lost. Nothing short of WW3 will wake these (most not all) THOTs attitude.
SM has ruined 18-30 yo and most 30-40 yo. They put here " manifesting. " At least in Seattle. I find someplace like AZ you have much better luck as fat with a bad attitude doesn't sell as well. They on better behavior there or starve. LOL.I will say this though. My inbox is a bit fuller than before. They still want wayyy too much.
Anyone have any info on this one: https://members.seeking.com/member/80ee547a-c0f4-40ef-a019-0edb1ee5d6b9.
Definitely a pro-vibe. Texted me about wanting to hookup in her car. A little hesitant to commit.
Michael1967
09-10-23, 01:22
I guess we all knew this, but I guess I have proof that it's actually true now.
There is someone that I met on WYP about 7-8 months ago. We still go out now and then, she's a sweetheart and gorgeous but we have zero sexual chemistry (personally I think she's horrid in bed, but I'll just say we don't click). Anyway, last time I spoke with her, I told her if she wanted to meet more people on the site she needs to add pictures with her face. So, she added pictures. I saw them and sent her a message, saying. "Hope you're doing well. I see you put up new pictures. Damn, you're sexy as fuck. ".
WYP deleted my message to her. I guess it's against the rules or something.
So, it's now official and proven. They are reading your private messages. Be careful out there.
I guess we all knew this, but I guess I have proof that it's actually true now.
So, she added pictures. I saw them and sent her a message, saying. "Hope you're doing well. I see you put up new pictures. Damn, you're sexy as fuck. ".
WYP deleted my message to her. I guess it's against the rules or something.
So, it's now official and proven. They are reading your private messages. Be careful out there.I'm guessing the word "fuck" triggered automatic deletion by a computer. These sites don't allow graphic messages.
I'm guessing the word "fuck" triggered automatic deletion by a computer. These sites don't allow graphic messages.Their message system is truly bad, probably because of that, and also I think it's by design. Get negotiations off their site quickly as possible makes sense in terms of legal protection. Ignoring the scammers, I'd say a majority of successful WYP activity is just a side hustle for pros and pro-SBs. And they know to switch to google voice asap.
Also, I haven't been active much but I like to scan the talent. Is it me or are there a LOT more +35 yo women and fugly girls than a year ago?
NYTransplant1
09-10-23, 16:52
Also, I haven't been active much but I like to scan the talent. Is it me or are there a LOT more +35 yo women and fugly girls than a year ago?Not your imagination. Feel like a majority of my messages are now coming from women I legitimately would not let pay me to fuck them.
Marko Ramius
09-10-23, 20:44
...
So, it's now official and proven. They are reading your private messages. Be careful out there.Yeah, you should assume until proven otherwise that any "private" messages might be read by somebody. I'd even say that for your email accounts if you use gmail or Microsoft or Apple. Just don't leave anything in there (or from there) that you'd care to show to your Mom.
Yeah, you should assume until proven otherwise that any "private" messages might be read by somebody. I'd even say that for your email accounts if you use gmail or Microsoft or Apple. Just don't leave anything in there (or from there) that you'd care to show to your Mom.You can bet any message sent on any monger type site can be read by the admins. I know and I think it's well known that other site the messages can be read by more then just the admins and have in the past.
Twister100
09-11-23, 14:41
https://members.seeking.com/member/d67005e2-0b72-4bc9-8d51-85f8869fc4f7
Pic / video seller.
KnoxNenters
09-11-23, 18:17
So, it's now official and proven. They are reading your private messages. Be careful out there.It's just bots. Humans are not scrolling through your messages. Welcome to the modern age.
PriceIsRight39
09-13-23, 15:39
Anyone have any info on this one: https://members.seeking.com/member/80ee547a-c0f4-40ef-a019-0edb1ee5d6b9.
Definitely a pro-vibe. Texted me about wanting to hookup in her car. A little hesitant to commit.I don't have proof, but I'll guess she's WAAAAY uglier in person. 75% are actually. And her profile screams manager. IMO.
Any info on this one? And if anyone wants to trade videos from girls on seeking only pm me.She's a pro. Goes by Trina something on the other board.
https://adultsearch.com/us/washington/seattle/female-escorts/2960305
I shot out a ton of messages to multiple girls to set up dates and arrangements. Did get some responses but most lead to nothing.
https://members.seeking.com/member/a06c4358-b818-4a32-acbd-e0eb323554dc
Hit this one up the day prior set everything up, 450 for PPM, agreed on CFS everything else was bare. Confirmed with her mid-day on the day of, then nothing as time got closer. Checked with her about an hour out and nothing. Saw that she was online. Maybe FAKE profile.
https://members.seeking.com/member/0b455294-4f2d-44aa-9b66-6fe265f916f6
Hit up this one and was talking with her for couple weeks. Decided to meet up and she texted the day of and said she couldn't make it. Agreed to 400 w / BBFS with recent tests. Maybe FAKE.
https://members.seeking.com/member/238965d9-f23d-4d13-a17f-c78ef2d2cf92
Talked with this one for a couple weeks. Made arrangements, agreed on 500 BBFS with recent test results but could possibly talk her down. Met up with her, looks like pic, body looked good not tight but still really good, the pics are accurate. Did BBFS w / CIP x2 rds. Would definitely repeat with this one.
https://members.seeking.com/member/73886eb1-8c94-451e-b618-16b37e353658
Met up with this one for 400, did BBFS w / CIP x2, need recent tests results as well. Little firecracker. Thicker in person but not fat, nice thick ass, was down to do BB Greek but just didn't have lube. Loves to F! Good head game. Great experience, would probably repeat.
Before anyone DMs me, no I will not give out their numbers. Thats for you to work through the site.
Good Luck!Thanks for the info. Mia looks intriguing. If you don't mind me asking, how do you start the convo? Do you try to sweet talk them first or just get straight to the point and ask what they're looking for? Never used a sb site before. Just regular dating sites and escorts sites. This is somewhere in between so unsure on how to start the coco. Thanks!
PriceIsRight39
09-13-23, 23:54
Thanks for the info. Mia looks intriguing. If you don't mind me asking, how do you start the convo? Do you try to sweet talk them first or just get straight to the point and ask what they're looking for? Never used a sb site before. Just regular dating sites and escorts sites. This is somewhere in between so unsure on how to start the coco. Thanks!Don't sweet talk these girls. Don't! They are the ones in need, not us fellas. Tell them what you want. They are glorified hookers these days. 1 out if 100 is seriously worth your ass kissing. And even then. Don't. They all have several " daddies " and a Tyrone at home! I talked to Mia. She's a pay per meet (hooker let's face it.). If she cancels it's likely she got another dude to offer more. There's pussy to be had, but don't take a knee to these women. They are on seeking for a reason. Broke!!
P.S. They Never look as good as the pics!! If you can accept that then you can get some booty.
Just tell um you want intimacy! You have what they want!! If they say they won't sleep with you for money, say ok! Not one has turned away cash yet. LOL.
Don't sweet talk these girls. Don't! They are the ones in need, not us fellas. Tell them what you want. They are glorified hookers these days. 1 out if 100 is seriously worth your ass kissing. And even then. Don't. They all have several " daddies " and a Tyrone at home! I talked to Mia. She's a pay per meet (hooker let's face it.). If she cancels it's likely she got another dude to offer more. There's pussy to be had, but don't take a knee to these women. They are on seeking for a reason. Broke!!
P.S. They Never look as good as the pics!! If you can accept that then you can get some booty.
Just tell um you want intimacy! You have what they want!! If they say they won't sleep with you for money, say ok! Not one has turned away cash yet. LOL.Thanks for the advice. I've seen a lot of pros on there so I figured as much but wasn't too sure. One last thing if you don't mind, I made my account 2 days ago and I've been inundated with messages already. Is it safe to assume a lot of those are fake, or are they really that desperate / eager? Don't want to pay for premium yet just discover that they're all bots.
Coolboarder78
09-14-23, 13:29
P.S. They Never look as good as the pics!! If you can accept that then you can get some booty. HAHAHA This! For SA, TNA, or dating apps. I always look at a girls BEST picture and say "this is what I want" . Then Look at their worst picture and say "This is likely what will show up". THEN decide if that's what I want to see.
Michael1967
09-14-23, 16:58
HAHAHA This! For SA, TNA, or dating apps. I always look at a girls BEST picture and say "this is what I want" . Then Look at their worst picture and say "This is likely what will show up". THEN decide if that's what I want to see.I usually take their worst picture add 30 lbs, extract a tooth and add acne. That's what I generally expect. If it's better, then it's a bonus.
Don't sweet talk these girls. Don't! They are the ones in need, not us fellas. Tell them what you want. They are glorified hookers these days. 1 out if 100 is seriously worth your ass kissing. And even then. Don't. They all have several " daddies " and a Tyrone at home! I talked to Mia. She's a pay per meet (hooker let's face it.). If she cancels it's likely she got another dude to offer more. There's pussy to be had, but don't take a knee to these women. They are on seeking for a reason. Broke!!
P.S. They Never look as good as the pics!! If you can accept that then you can get some booty.
Just tell um you want intimacy! You have what they want!! If they say they won't sleep with you for money, say ok! Not one has turned away cash yet. LOL.I agree with this.
We all optimize for different aspects. Some want super young girls, others look for borderline nymphos. But no matter what, I think we all look for women that at least like having sex. A dead fish is not fun no matter what.
If the woman requires a lot of convincing to get her to fuck, better try a regular dating app.
Anyone have any info on this one: https://members.seeking.com/member/80ee547a-c0f4-40ef-a019-0edb1ee5d6b9.
Definitely a pro-vibe. Texted me about wanting to hookup in her car. A little hesitant to commit.She's a stripper and a pro, the kind of girl you definitely want to avoid.
Thanks for the info. Mia looks intriguing. If you don't mind me asking, how do you start the convo? Do you try to sweet talk them first or just get straight to the point and ask what they're looking for? Never used a sb site before. Just regular dating sites and escorts sites. This is somewhere in between so unsure on how to start the coco. Thanks!Yeah, be straight forward. Tell them what you want. I just say, I'm looking for a ppm arrangement (be careful putting ppm, that is a red flag, put in all CAPS or put spaces in between the letters). Most of the time they will come back with, "yes, I'm interested. " That is when I ask if they would like to move the conversation to texting or snapchat.
Once texting starts I ask what they want for compensation, always go lower than what they ask.
Marko Ramius
09-16-23, 11:06
I agree that just being clear and up front about what you are looking for is the best bet. And also there is no point arguing with someone who isn't into it, and you are best to just waste as little time as possible and move on to the next one if it isn't going to work for you.
You can still be firm and clear about what you are about and still be polite and respectful. Being kind doesn't cost you anything. Maybe I am weird but it just doesn't seem wise to be rude or mean to someone who is going to have my cock in her mouth in the next few minutes.
And there is a huge difference between being kind and being a simp.
PriceIsRight39
09-16-23, 14:39
Thanks for the advice. I've seen a lot of pros on there so I figured as much but wasn't too sure. One last thing if you don't mind, I made my account 2 days ago and I've been inundated with messages already. Is it safe to assume a lot of those are fake, or are they really that desperate / eager? Don't want to pay for premium yet just discover that they're all bots.Not sure about bots. I'd say not so many on SA. The ladies must get a notification of new profile and hit you up. So you stick around. It's a game but it gets you in the "game" I guess. Message them back and see. If they go straight to txt they typically want to do biz or they are pros. I started out with a " pro " like I mean I was but deep an hour after the first message. I was a dope and didn't see the pro for the fact she was on SA (I've simped). Fucked her a bunch in the following months. Hey between love and crazy there's some good ass!
Have fun! Seriously I have had the best luck when I come off as " the man in the relationship (LOL) so to speak. I don't take crap form them. Ask for money up front (block) pic seller (block), cancel 20 minutes before the date I text back, ok lose my number (block). The ass I find is much better and less headaches. I've had 18 yo to 32,33 yo. Younger they are the more I've learned a take it of leave it (they have no idea that simply being agreeable will change their life, boss babes LOL). Keep in mind, the Simping (I did it) and thirsty betas hover in that age range. Expect the young un's to have an over inflated since of " value. " They get a shit ton of attention form their SM.
I had a brief encounter with an 18 yo (average looks). She was surprisingly easy to deal with, don't worry I saw I'd. We got to biz when she informed me she was still in. Well you get the picture. She had a job other than seeking. LOL.
I will say the openly cam / types have been a hot mess. Some fellas like to fuck those types. I like a little of a date before. Bimbos don't cut it. I learned my lesson.
Dude, you (us men) are the prize on Seeking, and anywhere else for that matter, not the ladies! Don't expect a woman to acknowledge that however. LOL They broke out here.
Bills coming due, and the stimmy checks is gone. For now. Hahaha.
Happy hunting.
RandyWanker
09-17-23, 02:21
Anyone have any info on this one: https://members.seeking.com/member/80ee547a-c0f4-40ef-a019-0edb1ee5d6b9.
Definitely a pro-vibe. Texted me about wanting to hookup in her car. A little hesitant to commit.I think she dances with the same name. Get to know her there and THEN decide.
Any info on this one?
https://members.seeking.com/member/6064484d-20d6-4783-b5f9-100c316cca6d
NYTransplant1
09-22-23, 11:04
Any info on this one?
https://members.seeking.com/member/6064484d-20d6-4783-b5f9-100c316cca6dI'm not sure there has ever been a more obvious 'I am a fake account' tell than a location listed as 'Washington, WA' but maybe I'm wrong and there is one legit profile out there with that.
Any info on this one?
https://members.seeking.com/member/6064484d-20d6-4783-b5f9-100c316cca6dLooks like a fake or bot account. The Washington, Washington location is an easy give away.
Does anyone have intel on Kate / Toebean from CuddleComfort? PM greatly appreciated!
Loopguystl
09-24-23, 19:54
Does anyone have intel on Kate / Toebean from CuddleComfort? PM greatly appreciated!I tried to see her last month. She stays at a really run down house with a a few drug addicts who were openly smoking crack in the living room. Her room was a mess with distinct smell of mold and who knows what else. She is a nice person, with a really bad place to host and super low energy. No idea how an actual session would go BTW.
Thanks for the info. She ended up flaking with a series of excuses then dissapeared. What's her body like? Can't tell from her pics.
I tried to see her last month. She stays at a really run down house with a a few drug addicts who were openly smoking crack in the living room. Her room was a mess with distinct smell of mold and who knows what else. She is a nice person, with a really bad place to host and super low energy. No idea how an actual session would go BTW.
PriceIsRight39
09-24-23, 23:25
She's a stripper and a pro, the kind of girl you definitely want to avoid.And 30. And flittered pics! Yuck. Has hit the wall.
CurvyDream.
https://members.seeking.com/member/c57e30dd-6f69-4156-8dec-f9630e05415b
Wanted $500 to host, $400 otherwise. Quick to block me when I didn't reply to that.
StormyJay.
https://members.seeking.com/member/818c2ae7-1c86-43d6-931e-0830986ba3fc
650 hr 450 hh but dropped to 400 for 45 pretty quick.
ScotchYoke
09-25-23, 18:23
StormyJay.
https://members.seeking.com/member/818c2ae7-1c86-43d6-931e-0830986ba3fc
650 hr 450 hh but dropped to 400 for 45 pretty quick.Pro. https://www.tnaboard.com/member.php?592144-stormjay333.
AnthonyAnthony
09-25-23, 18:50
https://members.seeking.com/member/6e2ca9e8-c0bc-4cc6-818a-5548af20fe42
Anyone seen this one?
Obscurelady on Seeking.
KnoxNenters
09-28-23, 20:51
Any info on this one?
https://members.seeking.com/member/6064484d-20d6-4783-b5f9-100c316cca6dJust doing' the lord's work for you. It's a basic thing. Just keep an eye on the location, sometimes the scammers forget to use their VPN location to point to Seattle.
Anyone seen this one?
Obscurelady on Seeking.Well, I tried to toftt. She quoted 350 for 2 hours 500 for overnight with everything on the table. She would host on Madison downtown. Asked for cashapp deposit, I said no. Cash in person only. Lots of questions about what I liked eventually begging me for some cashapp to buy some toys. I said no, she said ok. This was last week I had set a noon Monday time. Monday morning silence. At 12:30 I texted her again and said never mind and she immediately saying she thought we were meeting at 8 pm. I sent her a screenshot of previous texts, she said come over now. Then tried to get me to cashapp her again. She's blocked now.
Member #6729
09-30-23, 02:17
Don't sweet talk these girls. Don't! They are the ones in need, not us fellas. Tell them what you want. They are glorified hookers these days. 1 out if 100 is seriously worth your ass kissing. And even then. Don't. They all have several " daddies " and a Tyrone at home! I talked to Mia. She's a pay per meet (hooker let's face it.). If she cancels it's likely she got another dude to offer more. There's pussy to be had, but don't take a knee to these women. They are on seeking for a reason. Broke!!
P.S. They Never look as good as the pics!! If you can accept that then you can get some booty.
Just tell um you want intimacy! You have what they want!! If they say they won't sleep with you for money, say ok! Not one has turned away cash yet. LOL.And a Tyrone lmao when I first used seeking, some of them definitely had someone else, so I stopped seeing them. The older ladies like (30-40 years old) where wanting to date and to get into relationships. I enjoyed seeking, it was great.
Marko Ramius
09-30-23, 11:25
... 1 out if 100 is seriously worth your ass kissing. And even then. Don't.Yeah, it is about 1 out of 100 that you message that actually turn out okay.
I have a hard cutoff at 26, largely because the younger ones waste time and rarely put any effort into their work. Also, after some really bad experiences I always go for a M&G first before getting to the juicy stuff. Even with all that, don't ever trust these girls with your credit card, car keys, or household pets.
A lot of these girls have generating Fucked Up Situations refined into an art form.
Yeah, it is about 1 out of 100 that you message that actually turn out okay.
I have a hard cutoff at 26, largely because the younger ones waste time and rarely put any effort into their work. Also, after some really bad experiences I always go for a M&G first before getting to the juicy stuff. Even with all that, don't ever trust these girls with your credit card, car keys, or household pets.
A lot of these girls have generating Fucked Up Situations refined into an art form.I met 3 girls off seeking. All 3 had serious issues. Good looking. But serious issues! The whole seeking scene just isn't for me. Way way too much time you need to invest for little reward IMO. There is simply way too many scammers and bots on that site that you have to weed out and flakes.
Anyone seen this one?
Obscurelady on Seeking.Tried to meet this lady (same photo) from a different profile who did the. Send me gas money and I'll be right there scheme - 10 minutes prior to our scheduled time to meet. Wasted hotel money as a result. So either a pict that has been duplicated on scammers account or a scammer account. Beware.
Its def slim pickings out here in the PNW it seems.
I'm visiting and staying near the airport. Could someone provide me with some recommendations on good bars to visit while I'm here?
Thanks!
Michael1967
09-30-23, 16:43
Its def slim pickings out here in the PNW it seems.
I'm visiting and staying near the airport. Could someone provide me with some recommendations on good bars to visit while I'm here?
Thanks!Depends on what you're looking for. Dive Bars, Pick up bars, Karaoke bars, Sports bars or an alehouse. You may also want to mention your race (if you're black or Latino, there are a couple of good black and Latino bars in the area).
Dive / pickup bars sound good.
I'm white.
Depends on what you're looking for. Dive Bars, Pick up bars, Karaoke bars, Sports bars or an alehouse. You may also want to mention your race (if you're black or Latino, there are a couple of good black and Latino bars in the area).
Michael1967
09-30-23, 22:11
Dive / pickup bars sound good.
I'm white.Your best option for tonight is Elmer's in Burien. Live classic rock band and usually crowded. Drinks are strong. Flo (red hair. Is the bartender). You can take a drunk older lady home from there.
If you don't like it. About 1/2 block away is Pho Lio (previously known as Wah Longs). They will be having karaoke tonight, drinks are EXCEPTIONALLY strong there. Meaning if you do hard liquor, two drinks means you'll be slurring your words, three means someone is carrying you out. Nicole works tonight and Jimmy owns the place, make sure you're nice to Nichole (meaning tip here) or they will throw you out the door. If you have game, you can pull a decent looking trashy woman out of there if you play your cards right.
For picking up, I dress up, put on an expensive watch (my kids bought me a very expensive watch that attracts attention whenever I wear it) and go to Joey at Southcenter and sit at the bar and make casual conversation with the women around me. That location of Joey tends to be more black and Asian. The Bellevue location is probably better for you. But that's about a $30-40 Uber ride.
I have not been there in years, but Maxi's Lounge at the top of the Doubletree hotel was a good place for meeting women. The last time I was there was 2 years ago for a swinger party (about 200 swingers). Once everyone went back to their rooms, the place was dead, so I can't vouch for it.
Uber should be about $15 each way to Burien. There are about 6 other bars within walking distance (a mile) from Elmer's and Pho Liu. It's safe to walk there (unless you're drunk) but watch out for crazy homeless people.
I met 3 girls off seeking. All 3 had serious issues. Good looking. But serious issues! The whole seeking scene just isn't for me. Way way too much time you need to invest for little reward IMO. There is simply way too many scammers and bots on that site that you have to weed out and flakes.Well I have been using SA for years now. Its true it is some work but very worthy if you play your cards right. Right now I am fucking a 28 yo quite hot barista / esthetician. 3-4 hours for $400 at her place. I introduced her to anal, she can not get enough of it. CIA everytime.
And yeah many are nuts but crazy in bed too. There is one i met in SA that had multiple personalities. Her main one was one that like being treated nice, like to fuck tenderly etc, when i wanted to bring the crazy one. I needed to start pulling her hair and slap her a little, i voukd see the change on her eyes, that one demanded to be fucked in the ass hard and loved to suck my cock clean while i had her hair on my fist. To be honest I decided to never fuck her at her place, i did not want the crazy one to know where to get a knife ; )
The GPS here is out of control. Almost every girl I've talked to on SA wants $1000+.
Is anyone here actually paying that?
The GPS here is out of control. Almost every girl I've talked to on SA wants $1000+.
Is anyone here actually paying that?Yes the tech dudes. They are making 150 to 200 k a year and they are paying whatever the girls want. When you bring home 14 k a month giving away 1 to 2 k is like normal people paying $300 to $400. Its a problem and its not going away. Only time that well temporarily dries up is when the big companies start laying off and those guys close their wallets in fear of being laid off but that doesn't last long.
Marko Ramius
10-01-23, 21:56
I met 3 girls off seeking. All 3 had serious issues. Good looking. But serious issues! The whole seeking scene just isn't for me. Way way too much time you need to invest for little reward IMO. There is simply way too many scammers and bots on that site that you have to weed out and flakes.When you grab girls off the street I think the return on decent girls is about the same, and you have to make a lot more effort and take a lot more risk than you do just browsing a web site and sending PMs. At least for me. Everybody's different.
I usually have 2-4 girls on rotation and will keep good ones in the rotation for a couple of years. So once you do the recruiting you aren't putting in a lot of additional effort.
When you grab girls off the street I think the return on decent girls is about the same, and you have to make a lot more effort and take a lot more risk than you do just browsing a web site and sending PMs. At least for me. Everybody's different.
I usually have 2-4 girls on rotation and will keep good ones in the rotation for a couple of years. So once you do the recruiting you aren't putting in a lot of additional effort.I enjoy the process of cruising and meeting girls. I love driving. Other's may not. I would much rather meet girls in person then on a website. I find some really good girls cruising.
I usually have 2-4 girls on rotation and will keep good ones in the rotation for a couple of years. So once you do the recruiting you aren't putting in a lot of additional effort.Exactly if you just want to fuck a girl from SA once, yeah the effort is not worthed at all. The idea is to keep them for a while. I have one that I have been fucking once a month for 4 years now. She started demanding condoms, now loves doing ATM. She is a manager at an architecture firm, and goes to church ever Sunday, super shy but she's is fucking crazy in bed. She does not need the money but finds it hot that she gets some money for the pleasure of fucking her
Michael1967
10-02-23, 02:03
I met 3 girls off seeking. All 3 had serious issues. Good looking. But serious issues! The whole seeking scene just isn't for me. Way way too much time you need to invest for little reward IMO. There is simply way too many scammers and bots on that site that you have to weed out and flakes.I've said this many times, SA is like shopping at the Island of Misfit Toys.
I enjoy the process of cruising and meeting girls. I love driving. Other's may not. I would much rather meet girls in person then on a website. I find some really good girls cruising.Cruising as like driving down aurora ave?
Bbyzen: https://members.seeking.com/member/2e0b3bdb-2b87-4b14-8ff5-3442e44497e4.
Anyone have info on this one? I've been chatting with her and can't get quite figure her out. One second she seems real, the next it feels like a scam.
Michael1967
10-02-23, 18:49
Bbyzen: https://members.seeking.com/member/2e0b3bdb-2b87-4b14-8ff5-3442e44497e4.
Anyone have info on this one? I've been chatting with her and can't get quite figure her out. One second she seems real, the next it feels like a scam.She got crazy eyes.
NYTransplant1
10-02-23, 19:42
Bbyzen: https://members.seeking.com/member/2e0b3bdb-2b87-4b14-8ff5-3442e44497e4.
Anyone have info on this one? I've been chatting with her and can't get quite figure her out. One second she seems real, the next it feels like a scam.I wrote this one off as a scam when they reached out two weeks ago. All of the photos are nearly identical, and all of them are super zoomed in / blurry / low-res. Also zero chance the person in those photos is only 24. If things don't pass the smell test I'm out right away.
Marko Ramius
10-02-23, 22:20
I enjoy the process of cruising and meeting girls. I love driving. Other's may not. I would much rather meet girls in person then on a website. I find some really good girls cruising.That's great for you. I really don't like the cruising and driving part. Meeting them online and then discreetly in public works much better for me. Everybody's different and its great that you have an approach that works for you.
And it's true that a lot of the sugar girls are pretty messed up. That's one more reason I approach them very carefully and try to meet them face to face someplace neutral before we go on to more private activities.
Bbyzen: https://members.seeking.com/member/2e0b3bdb-2b87-4b14-8ff5-3442e44497e4.
Anyone have info on this one? I've been chatting with her and can't get quite figure her out. One second she seems real, the next it feels like a scam.Wants money to prove you are serious LOL. I just moved on. Even if she is real she is just wasting time and looking for easy money.
PriceIsRight39
10-03-23, 12:01
Yes the tech dudes. They are making 150 to 200 k a year and they are paying whatever the girls want. When you bring home 14 k a month giving away 1 to 2 k is like normal people paying $300 to $400. Its a problem and its not going away. Only time that well temporarily dries up is when the big companies start laying off and those guys close their wallets in fear of being laid off but that doesn't last long.I make way more than 150 a year. (double that.). And there in no way I'm paying 1 k! I'd go broke. LOL. 1 k is to much guys. I fucked in Miami for 4-5. Phoenix is 4 for a 21 yo (I gave extra for mail job cause I see her when I'm in town and she give raw). None of there's girls are with 1 k. I leaned that the hard way. They are mostly scammers and managed (many are). There are unicorns. The ones that will spend an afternoon / evening with you and fuck you more than once for 5. At 150 k a year you can't afford a 1 k fuck. Imo. But yes, tech has ruined the world.
I make way more than 150 a year. (double that.). And there in no way I'm paying 1 k! I'd go broke. LOL. 1 k is to much guys. I fucked in Miami for 4-5. Phoenix is 4 for a 21 yo (I gave extra for mail job cause I see her when I'm in town and she give raw). None of there's girls are with 1 k. I leaned that the hard way. They are mostly scammers and managed (many are). There are unicorns. The ones that will spend an afternoon / evening with you and fuck you more than once for 5. At 150 k a year you can't afford a 1 k fuck. Imo. But yes, tech has ruined the world.Basically, inexperienced tech guys need to realize that rates have zero correlation to the experience you get. In fact, you're probably more likely to have a worse experience by overpaying because whoever you're seeing is trying to hit a home run here or there from gullible types and doesn't care about good service or anything long term.
As said before, the very best types are ones who do all this on the side while having steady income already, though that does make you skew towards a higher age. They do it because they enjoy it and not because they have to. Not to say there aren't good ones that don't fit that bill, but anyone else has more likelihood of being crazy, clingy, flaky, or other issues. You might as well get into a traditional relationship if you deal with that.
I make way more than 150 a year. (double that.). And there in no way I'm paying 1 k! I'd go broke. LOL. 1 k is to much guys. I fucked in Miami for 4-5. Phoenix is 4 for a 21 yo (I gave extra for mail job cause I see her when I'm in town and she give raw). None of there's girls are with 1 k. I leaned that the hard way. They are mostly scammers and managed (many are). There are unicorns. The ones that will spend an afternoon / evening with you and fuck you more than once for 5. At 150 k a year you can't afford a 1 k fuck. Imo. But yes, tech has ruined the world.This. I make more then 150 k a year myself as well and I am not ever paying 1 k for a fucking hour LOL. There is simply no value in that what so ever! An hour of a girls time is simply not worth 1 k! I don't value orgasms to be worth anywhere near that. If we are talking 1 k then that money could be better well spent on Seeking where you will get multiple encounters from girls who aren't total pros and you can have chemistry with.
The best type of girl to be had out there is the low self esteem unicorn. This girl has a low sense of self worth and will undercharge and give you amazing service in search of your approval! I recently picked one of these girls up and she was absolutely beautiful and 19. Only wanted to charge me 80 bucks! Spent many hours together. Really a great girl with serious lack of self esteem. Felt bad for her so I gave her 200 at her charging so little. Was all uncovered. It's rare you come across these types though in my experience in this game. The last low self esteem unicorn I picked up prior to this one was last summer and she wanted only 50! Same experience. We cuddled for a long time and and it was just a great experience. She was also super pretty and in her early 20's.
This. I make more then 150 k a year myself as well and I am not ever paying 1 k for a fucking hour LOL. There is simply no value in that what so ever! An hour of a girls time is simply not worth 1 k! I don't value orgasms to be worth anywhere near that. If we are talking 1 k then that money could be better well spent on Seeking where you will get multiple encounters from girls who aren't total pros and you can have chemistry with.Similar boat here. I make good money these days, but don't want to spend it frivolously. I've gone to that level with porn stars, but there's a difference between spending 1 k to see Ariana Marie for a few hours and getting personal video and "civ" girls looking for 1 k. I've found there is little correlation between what they're asking for and the experience. Chemistry and clicking are still a factor for most girls you end up seeing.
I visit LA a few times a year and I find much better results down there than up here. Bigger pool of girls combined with the acting / modelling industry down there. Every girl up here is looking for 500 minimum these days, regardless of their looks or attitude. Similar in LA, but the difference is for 500 in LA I've had unrushed several hour arrangements with a super horny Asian gamer college girl or a literal runway model.
For context, if I look for girls in the Seattle area on Seeking in my age and body range I get a 3-4000 hits of which really only a few are active. In LA it's 10,000+ which is the max it displays. Hell, if I choose Latin / Hispanic there are more Latinas in the range then ALL girls up here.
I basically sub and scout Seeking for a month a couple of times a year up here and whenever I travel. I stay picky up here and save anything I don't spend for trips.
PriceIsRight39
10-05-23, 16:52
Similar boat here. I make good money these days, but don't want to spend it frivolously. I've gone to that level with porn stars, but there's a difference between spending 1 k to see Ariana Marie for a few hours and getting personal video and "civ" girls looking for 1 k. I've found there is little correlation between what they're asking for and the experience. Chemistry and clicking are still a factor for most girls you end up seeing.
I visit LA a few times a year and I find much better results down there than up here. Bigger pool of girls combined with the acting / modelling industry down there. Every girl up here is looking for 500 minimum these days, regardless of their looks or attitude. Similar in LA, but the difference is for 500 in LA I've had unrushed several hour arrangements with a super horny Asian gamer college girl or a literal runway model.
For context, if I look for girls in the Seattle area on Seeking in my age and body range I get a 3-4000 hits of which really only a few are active. In LA it's 10,000+ which is the max it displays. Hell, if I choose Latin / Hispanic there are more Latinas in the range then ALL girls up here.
I basically sub and scout Seeking for a month a couple of times a year up here and whenever I travel. I stay picky up here and save anything I don't spend for trips.Agreed. There are way better results in other places. Dudes are paying it up here so the market is wacky. I didn't help when I first started off. Now, Phoenix is 350-500 and she stays all afternoon!!
I get lucky on the east side of WA I have one that for 5 we do multiple rounds, bare, anal, facials. She's a total and and a freak. She's a unicorn and college educated enough to get that if she's good to fellas and agreeable, we will give give give. She's also realistic about what she's asking for. One in a 100 in the NW. This place has issues. I won't go I to what they are.
Also, Miami netted a 23 yo fresh off the boat from Panama! Beautiful!! Started at 1 k settled for 4 and passed a friends number along too! They more like escorts though. But no Ho nails, and no attitude! Geez, the entitled attitude around here is thick!
PriceIsRight39
10-05-23, 16:54
This. I make more then 150 k a year myself as well and I am not ever paying 1 k for a fucking hour LOL. There is simply no value in that what so ever! An hour of a girls time is simply not worth 1 k! I don't value orgasms to be worth anywhere near that. If we are talking 1 k then that money could be better well spent on Seeking where you will get multiple encounters from girls who aren't total pros and you can have chemistry with.
The best type of girl to be had out there is the low self esteem unicorn. This girl has a low sense of self worth and will undercharge and give you amazing service in search of your approval! I recently picked one of these girls up and she was absolutely beautiful and 19. Only wanted to charge me 80 bucks! Spent many hours together. Really a great girl with serious lack of self esteem. Felt bad for her so I gave her 200 at her charging so little. Was all uncovered. It's rare you come across these types though in my experience in this game. The last low self esteem unicorn I picked up prior to this one was last summer and she wanted only 50! Same experience. We cuddled for a long time and and it was just a great experience. She was also super pretty and in her early 20's.Haven't been that lucky!! LOL but multiple rounds at 5 and a second wife is decent in the NW. She's like my second. Not the two wives is a great idea anymore! Hahaha.
Merovingian2
10-05-23, 19:55
Been a while brother. Lost my phone book so drop me a line. I got some fresh meat. :-D
PriceIsRight39
10-06-23, 13:07
https://members.seeking.com/member/c782b3c6-3741-48ad-9e91-f113308ddb99
This one gave me the sad story about needing bills paid. Hey, if you're in a bind, daddy can make a deal. Of course she asked for the cash first and told me how she's not like the other girls on SA. Hahah I said I didn't do that due to being a fool once and getting scammed and that I'm happy to meet up Saturday and pass some funds if you want to. You know. This was all via WhatsApp (I never give um my real number for a long time and even then, bitches are crazy!!). I explained that most guys don't pay up front and you'll get blocked. Well, you can guess what happened next!! I got a voice msg calling me every name but the Virgin Mary!! Who raises these young women? My god the vile language that came out of that woman's mouth. I'm mean Trump said " grab um by the p—-y, but this was like nothing I've heard in the locker room in the hood!
I get it, she realized that now the lights were actually going to get cut off! LOL sorry honey maybe some gump will go for it, but you were a BJ and all fours away from the October crisis being averted. Hahah I love it! We have all the cards fellas.
Beware.
Basically, inexperienced tech guys need to realize that rates have zero correlation to the experience you get. In fact, you're probably more likely to have a worse experience by overpaying because whoever you're seeing is trying to hit a home run here or there from gullible types and doesn't care about good service or anything long term.
As said before, the very best types are ones who do all this on the side while having steady income already, though that does make you skew towards a higher age. They do it because they enjoy it and not because they have to. Not to say there aren't good ones that don't fit that bill, but anyone else has more likelihood of being crazy, clingy, flaky, or other issues. You might as well get into a traditional relationship if you deal with that.Alot of these guys who work in tech are mega sperglords or incels. They HAVE to pay up to get these girls it seems. I mean we all do but the premium is higher if you're ugly / short / fat etc.
CogelonSeattle
10-06-23, 18:37
Real but GPS, 400 all covered, no kisses. Gorgeous ass though (BBL). I was able to negotiate her down in person but not planning on seeing her again.
Real but GPS, 400 all covered, no kisses. Gorgeous ass though (BBL). I was able to negotiate her down in person but not planning on seeing her again.Thanks for contributing actionable info. This forum is getting overrun with BS stories and whining as of late.
CogelonSeattle
10-06-23, 20:33
Thanks for contributing actionable info. This forum is getting overrun with BS stories and whining as of late.Yeah, I used to follow this thread a lot in the past when people shared info, not anymore these days. I hope you find it useful. I have more to report but will do once I get some free time.
Just seeing if anyone's given this a try? Don't want to over donate, want to keep prices low so all can enjoy and benefit.
https://members.seeking.com/member/73dfb1d0-d7a0-4c69-998d-148e220d9fbb
Yeah, I used to follow this thread a lot in the past when people shared info, not anymore these days. I hope you find it useful. I have more to report but will do once I get some free time.SA works best when you have a homie or two who likes the same type of woman for the same price range, then you can share info and occasionally, even do intros.
This has worked well for me.
This site is more about bitching, everything is to expensive, or all the guys who spend more then me are simps, or about writing stories on how great their dics are.
Member #6729
10-11-23, 19:23
SA works best when you have a homie or two who likes the same type of woman for the same price range, then you can share info and occasionally, even do intros.
This has worked well for me.
This site is more about bitching, everything is to expensive, or all the guys who spend more then me are simps, or about writing stories on how great their dics are.I've done that before with verified members on the board who actually contribute, I toftt on SA but not on TNA for the bb forum. On the bb forum I mostly verify girls again, which is hopefully still helpful to some. This forum has still been a good contribution, a little less in the past 2-3 years but still helpful, kinda LOL but yes mostly complaining about simps, white knights, not getting bb, or thots overcharging haha.
I've done that before with verified members on the board who actually contribute, I toftt on SA but not on TNA for the bb forum. On the bb forum I mostly verify girls again, which is hopefully still helpful to some. This forum has still been a good contribution, a little less in the past 2-3 years but still helpful, kinda LOL but yes mostly complaining about simps, white knights, not getting bb, or thots overcharging haha.If you're willing to do the work, there is valuable info here. You just have to read lots of backlog posts, haha. DelToro and Michael1967 are members that I have to thank for getting my best non-pro experiences. Good advice, no BS.
The issue I have with spreading good intel on here is it becomes fair game for everyone. Including the creeps and assholes. I just ended an arrangement with a girl after 4 mos who is back on seeking. She was a total freak in bed and did not beg for $. Honestly I don't know how I'll be able to find another that will compete. But no way I'm going to promote her here, she's already had a SA "gentleman" beat her down and spit on her.
Member #6729
10-12-23, 00:00
If you're willing to do the work, there is valuable info here. You just have to read lots of backlog posts, haha. DelToro and Michael1967 are members that I have to thank for getting my best non-pro experiences. Good advice, no BS.
The issue I have with spreading good intel on here is it becomes fair game for everyone. Including the creeps and assholes. I just ended an arrangement with a girl after 4 mos who is back on seeking. She was a total freak in bed and did not beg for $. Honestly I don't know how I'll be able to find another that will compete. But no way I'm going to promote her here, she's already had a SA "gentleman" beat her down and spit on her.Care to share (insert IPhone eye emoji) you can check my post, I share info. This board is definetely helpful if you look for info, it is annoying when someone shares and then people try to make an appt with said lady and text her, "yea but so and so said on USASG that you do bare" when clearly the post said, "YMMV". Happened to me a couple times. Some of the providers show me texts sometimes and say, "look at this idiot texting me" LOL cracks me up every time. Realistically the texts they've shown me is like, a lot of people have zero game. Anywho, no more rants, if I could get a link through the PM that be awesome though. If it works out, it works out.
KnoxNenters
10-12-23, 16:44
Longshot request, but I have a girl from Bellingham with only a few hours during the day available while her kid is in daycare, willing to meet me halfway down to Seattle.
I'm looking for the equivalent of a dayuse option, which don't exist in Marysville, as far as I can tell. Hotel check-in / out times usually don't work for mid-day activities.
Looking for ideas. I know AirBnB / VRBO can be looked at, but are there any spas with private rooms, like in Federal Way with the private tub suites, or something along those lines?
Thanks in advance. The date is early next week, so hoping to coordinate this asap.
If you're willing to do the work, there is valuable info here. You just have to read lots of backlog posts, haha. DelToro and Michael1967 are members that I have to thank for getting my best non-pro experiences. Good advice, no BS.
The issue I have with spreading good intel on here is it becomes fair game for everyone. Including the creeps and assholes. I just ended an arrangement with a girl after 4 mos who is back on seeking. She was a total freak in bed and did not beg for $. Honestly I don't know how I'll be able to find another that will compete. But no way I'm going to promote her here, she's already had a SA "gentleman" beat her down and spit on her.Totally agree, and there are amazing women who are really unicorns out there, having met a few, had to sort through a few dozen. The stories I have heard about some SA SD stalking, and beatings, and other issues like rape are pretty daunting. It is worth sharing the info maybe in PMs as I have with a few and have a solid rep.
Longshot request, but I have a girl from Bellingham with only a few hours during the day available while her kid is in daycare, willing to meet me halfway down to Seattle.
I'm looking for the equivalent of a dayuse option, which don't exist in Marysville, as far as I can tell. Hotel check-in / out times usually don't work for mid-day activities.
Looking for ideas. I know AirBnB / VRBO can be looked at, but are there any spas with private rooms, like in Federal Way with the private tub suites, or something along those lines?
Thanks in advance. The date is early next week, so hoping to coordinate this asap.If it's worth the effort just book two nights at Holiday Inn should be around $200 ish but leaves no issues. Dayuse wasn't honored once for me which was awkward.
Longshot request, but I have a girl from Bellingham with only a few hours during the day available while her kid is in daycare, willing to meet me halfway down to Seattle.
I'm looking for the equivalent of a dayuse option, which don't exist in Marysville, as far as I can tell. Hotel check-in / out times usually don't work for mid-day activities.
Looking for ideas. I know AirBnB / VRBO can be looked at, but are there any spas with private rooms, like in Federal Way with the private tub suites, or something along those lines?
Thanks in advance. The date is early next week, so hoping to coordinate this asap.Guess you already know as it is on DayUse, the closest is their option on Mukilteo. I had used it several times.
PriceIsRight39
10-13-23, 14:58
I'm finding Austin, TX a decent spot! 2 for 2 on trips. Both women were Latinas (Brazil / Mexico). 7 on looks the MX lady was a strong 7. Both PPM.
One asked for 1 k all covered, to which I replied, " for that service 1 k is a lot of money for a short stay plus Uber ($15 each way). About 30 minutes later she agreed to half that. If I lived there she's be regular material (with more vetting). I gave her more as she was top tier 23 yo with no Ho nails and arrive to my spot modestly dressed for the occasion.
The rest was easy. She was really good looking in person, I was impressed. Most don't look anything like the pics with all the dumb ass filters!
Phoenix I get lucky a bunch too.
If y'all get out that way, the hunting is good. The economy is getting soft. I saw one profile (Austin) where she openly says she's got student loans to pay. She was wayyy too boss ***** for my taste anymore so I searched on. I only deal with submissive was much as possible. But you can see where we are.
Happy hunting.
I'm finding Austin, TX a decent spot! 2 for 2 on trips. Both women were Latinas (Brazil / Mexico). 7 on looks the MX lady was a strong 7. Both PPM.
One asked for 1 k all covered, to which I replied, " for that service 1 k is a lot of money for a short stay plus Uber ($15 each way). About 30 minutes later she agreed to half that. If I lived there she's be regular material (with more vetting). I gave her more as she was top tier 23 yo with no Ho nails and arrive to my spot modestly dressed for the occasion.
The rest was easy. She was really good looking in person, I was impressed. Most don't look anything like the pics with all the dumb ass filters!
Phoenix I get lucky a bunch too.
If y'all get out that way, the hunting is good. The economy is getting soft. I saw one profile (Austin) where she openly says she's got student loans to pay. She was wayyy too boss ***** for my taste anymore so I searched on. I only deal with submissive was much as possible. But you can see where we are..Could not agree more. I have been to TX many times (Houston and Austin both are incredibly well priced. I have not hobbied much in Dallas, but I can bet they too have decent competition. I have had some extremely memorable days in Austin. Thanks for sharing brought back a flood of good memories and thoughts.
I'm finding Austin, TX a decent spot! 2 for 2 on trips. Both women were Latinas (Brazil / Mexico). 7 on looks the MX lady was a strong 7. Both PPM.
One asked for 1 k all covered, to which I replied, " for that service 1 k is a lot of money for a short stay plus Uber ($15 each way). About 30 minutes later she agreed to half that. If I lived there she's be regular material (with more vetting). I gave her more as she was top tier 23 yo with no Ho nails and arrive to my spot modestly dressed for the occasion.
The rest was easy. She was really good looking in person, I was impressed. Most don't look anything like the pics with all the dumb ass filters!
Phoenix I get lucky a bunch too.
If y'all get out that way, the hunting is good. The economy is getting soft. I saw one profile (Austin) where she openly says she's got student loans to pay. She was wayyy too boss ***** for my taste anymore so I searched on. I only deal with submissive was much as possible. But you can see where we are.
Happy hunting.I'm sorry, why does this belong here? Not Seattle, there are literally forums for these cities on this site.
You paid $600 for a hookup in Austin, yeah. Not the brag you think, bro. LOL.
Not sure if my latest bragging posts were considered BS, but well. I will try to contribute with some original thoughts, my opinion not saying these points are absolute truths or anything, just trying to contribute given my experience and that I have been having an awesome run. Just to put some context, I wrote close to 200 reviews on TNA, after tasting the goods on SA, I never went back.
* Be direct but respectful.
There are a lot of girls that do not know what they want, many do think that sex is not involved, etc.
In my experience the best way to weed out undecisive women if for you to be decisive. Express what you want in your profile.
I for one not only want sex, I want several hours of non vanilla sex. And I communicate that on my profile, again being respectful and tactful.
I do hint PPM without being openly explicit.
Many women do not reply to my initial contact, but the ones that do, kind of know of what they are getting into.
Even some women that have been reported here as DTF, do not reply to me because are not interested in long sessions.
* Put private photos.
What I did was to search extensively on the web for free photos until I found a guy that sort of semblance me and use his photos.
If I don't feel like writing much I initiate contact by just giving her access to my photos, if they reply or look at my profile a couple of times after that, then I do write to them.
* Don't expect escort behavior right away, be patient.
Its true SA takes a lot more time and patience.
True newbies are not going to jump right away into doing BB and anal, some would but most are anxious about having risky behaviors with a complete stranger.
Getting a newbie to where you want takes a lot of patience, and trust building. Again this is only worth it if you do want to establish a sort of regular relationship, for me if the sex is wild at first I do not mind putting up with condoms for example as later on, with test results they tend to go away. I prefer to wait and have unprotected sex with somebody I know is not fucking bare right away with any stranger.
That's why most of us do not share the hidden gems, one, because it took effort to get there and two because most likely people are not going to put the same effort and are going to ruin a good thing.
* Treat them well.
I bring wine to all my meetings and flowers every now and then. Listen to them and be nice.
* Be patient.
Here I mean, stay around for a while, yes there are a lot of scammers, but after a while they would figure you are not an easy target and they would leave you mostly alone, but true the first couple of months the contacts by scammers are a bit tiresome, you would also develop a sense of who would be legit and who would not, so you would waste less time with bogus profiles.
* SA is not for everybody.
- The YMMV factor in SA is huge, you do need some social skills and not be completely hideous.
- If you are spending more than $1000 a month in escorts, prefer longer sessions and like to repeat, then the time and effort needed for SA is worth it for you and you could get a lot more for your money if you have some game (see the last point).
I do have some actual intel on some girls to avoid but I would write that later.
I'll be in Austin and Ft Worth next month, I'd appreciate any leads anyone wants to share. Judging from the forums, the h**ker scene isn't great, strip clubs and sugar is where it's at. What's the best sugar site there? Seeking looks pretty active.
I'm finding Austin, TX a decent spot! 2 for 2 on trips. Both women were Latinas (Brazil / Mexico). 7 on looks the MX lady was a strong 7. Both PPM.
One asked for 1 k all covered, to which I replied, " for that service 1 k is a lot of money for a short stay plus Uber ($15 each way). About 30 minutes later she agreed to half that. If I lived there she's be regular material (with more vetting). I gave her more as she was top tier 23 yo with no Ho nails and arrive to my spot modestly dressed for the occasion.
The rest was easy. She was really good looking in person, I was impressed. Most don't look anything like the pics with all the dumb ass filters!
Phoenix I get lucky a bunch too.
If y'all get out that way, the hunting is good. The economy is getting soft. I saw one profile (Austin) where she openly says she's got student loans to pay. She was wayyy too boss ***** for my taste anymore so I searched on. I only deal with submissive was much as possible. But you can see where we are.
Happy hunting.
PriceIsRight39
10-15-23, 00:01
I'm sorry, why does this belong here? Not Seattle, there are literally forums for these cities on this site.
You paid $600 for a hookup in Austin, yeah. Not the brag you think, bro. LOL.Well one fella said he was heading to TX from Seattle and many of us travel and appreciate info in other cities. It's not a brag, it's intell on a city where WELL OFF men frequent from Seattle and like to play without an unreasonable amount of expense as most of the women on SA aren't worth it. Perhaps someone will hold their cash until an Austin trip as smart men know value.
SA is about país hook ups. SMART men pay upfront, Ninjas pay 10 x on the back end for " free " pussy.
Enjoy Seattle and maybe show your work?? I'd love tips on the amazing ladies you have here.
Happy hunting.
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