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  1. #10835

    Read on the financial conditions

    Its good to see we are able to discuss economy and how it relates to the hooker game. There are some interesting posts about how cash buyers for home refuse to pay as well as traditional buyers seeking mortgages are not buying.

    Case in point- early 2000's following the dot com burst fed began lowering interest rates along with 12/2007-6/2009. You can google this.

    So yes, guard both of your bags (your nuts and your money).

    Ok so back to hookers. Remember this.
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  2. #10834

    Bad recession

    Quote Originally Posted by Bjceb  [View Original Post]
    08 was a severe one. One will come, but don't think it will be severe.
    It will be worse then 08, most people can not read through the lines when it comes to economics. Admittedly it is extremely boring AF sometimes. Look to a youtuber called valuetainment. It is not so boring for the non economic person.

  3. #10833
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    Posts: 1580

    Recession

    08 was a severe one. One will come, but don't think it will be severe.

    Quote Originally Posted by Carlosa  [View Original Post]
    When does a recession hit? Historicaly the downturn is 8 months after the last rate hike, not the first. You can see home sales now lower then they have been since the 80's. The last time the economy took a dump in 08, there was a huge jump in street walkers. When the girls can not get the punters online they goto the street. You will se the donations fall when you see an increase in street walkers. That's when you know they are truly hungry.

  4. #10832

    Recession and rates. (Have been getting pm's and text messages to go into detail.

    When does a recession hit? Historicaly the downturn is 8 months after the last rate hike, not the first. You can see home sales now lower then they have been since the 80's. The last time the economy took a dump in 08, there was a huge jump in street walkers. When the girls can not get the punters online they goto the street. You will se the donations fall when you see an increase in street walkers. That's when you know they are truly hungry.

  5. #10831

    Agreed

    Quote Originally Posted by Carlosa  [View Original Post]
    The girls are getting very hungry. You now have several Miami, Jacksonville, & Tampa all placing advertisements in Orlando. You also have girls getting so desperate there posting advertisements on Craigslist and Facebook. The recession will not hit until 8 months after the final rate hike. So the hunger the girls have is only going to increase.

    My humble 2 cents.

    1) When contacting a girl you like get the no upsell all in donation. (Except South American girls, all of them have handlers. An extra 100 gets everything.).

    2) Once you have agreed on a donation, ask for a verification photo.

    3) Do not ask for writing on paper, or 2 fingers in the air. Ask for thumb on elbow something you do not usually see.

    4) No verification do not go, let them starve, if the verification photo is different then tell them you need a discount.

    5) If you do not feel good tell them to meet in lobby or pool area. When I am in Altamonte I always meet at Chick-fil-A.

    6) Always listen to you gut, and walk away.

    7) Never use your real phone, use a burner.

    8) Never give out your real name or information.

    9) Arrive early, pick another vehicle say it's yours.

    10) Never ever prepay ever. ONLYFANS is prepay.

    11) Never carry more the requested.

    12) Depends on the situation carry an equalizer.

    13) Remember for the South American girls your probably talking to a handler.

    14) Remember those with the money makes the rules. Girls do not like the rules. Let them fucking starve.
    The gut can save you! Nice rules to follow.

  6. #10830

    When I walk

    They text me back with.

    BBBJ, GFE, etc for more money.

    What is your zip code, scam.

    No verification photo.

    Real pic is fat and ugly, 90% of the time.

    Latina verification photo comes back as black, not my preference.

    Hotel girl will not meet in lobby, or pool area.

    Altamonte girl will not meet at Chick-fil-A.

    Comes back to high prices are nonnegotiable.

    Open door bad feeling, run.

  7. #10829

    They are definitely hungry

    Mongers have all the leverage right now. If you notice the popular thing now is a lot of girls ads will say outcalls / cardates only. They can't afford to keep a hotel room consistently so they have to go home and try to make whatever money they can from us without trying to pay for an incall location. The price for everything is high right now so I'm sure most mongers are very selective with who they spend their money with and how much they are willing to spend. Even for myself the minute these girls start making rules and demands, I quickly move on to the next one until I get what I want, I don't even try to negotiate much anymore. If I was them I would open up the menu and show top notch appreciation to their regulars.

  8. #10828
    Quote Originally Posted by Carlosa  [View Original Post]
    The girls are getting very hungry. You now have several Miami, Jacksonville, & Tampa all placing advertisements in Orlando. You also have girls getting so desperate there posting advertisements on Craigslist and Facebook. The recession will not hit until 8 months after the final rate hike. So the hunger the girls have is only going to increase.

    My humble 2 cents.

    1) When contacting a girl you like get the no upsell all in donation. (Except South American girls, all of them have handlers. An extra 100 gets everything.).

    2) Once you have agreed on a donation, ask for a verification photo.

    3) Do not ask for writing on paper, or 2 fingers in the air. Ask for thumb on elbow something you do not usually see.

    4) No verification do not go, let them starve, if the verification photo is different then tell them you need a discount.

    5) If you do not feel good tell them to meet in lobby or pool area. When I am in Altamonte I always meet at Chick-fil-A.

    6) Always listen to you gut, and walk away.

    7) Never use your real phone, use a burner.

    8) Never give out your real name or information.

    9) Arrive early, pick another vehicle say it's yours.

    10) Never ever prepay ever. ONLYFANS is prepay.

    11) Never carry more the requested.

    12) Depends on the situation carry an equalizer.

    13) Remember for the South American girls your probably talking to a handler.

    14) Remember those with the money makes the rules. Girls do not like the rules. Let them fucking starve.
    Let them starve.

  9. #10827

    Reason for taking a break. Texting other seniors from here.

    The girls are getting very hungry. You now have several Miami, Jacksonville, & Tampa all placing advertisements in Orlando. You also have girls getting so desperate there posting advertisements on Craigslist and Facebook. The recession will not hit until 8 months after the final rate hike. So the hunger the girls have is only going to increase.

    My humble 2 cents.

    1) When contacting a girl you like get the no upsell all in donation. (Except South American girls, all of them have handlers. An extra 100 gets everything.).

    2) Once you have agreed on a donation, ask for a verification photo.

    3) Do not ask for writing on paper, or 2 fingers in the air. Ask for thumb on elbow something you do not usually see.

    4) No verification do not go, let them starve, if the verification photo is different then tell them you need a discount.

    5) If you do not feel good tell them to meet in lobby or pool area. When I am in Altamonte I always meet at Chick-fil-A.

    6) Always listen to you gut, and walk away.

    7) Never use your real phone, use a burner.

    8) Never give out your real name or information.

    9) Arrive early, pick another vehicle say it's yours.

    10) Never ever prepay ever. ONLYFANS is prepay.

    11) Never carry more the requested.

    12) Depends on the situation carry an equalizer.

    13) Remember for the South American girls your probably talking to a handler.

    14) Remember those with the money makes the rules. Girls do not like the rules. Let them fucking starve.

  10. #10826
    Quote Originally Posted by BJack1987  [View Original Post]
    I saw Gigi / Giggles also got locked up in Orange County when she usually operates in Osceola County. If a provider mentions activity at a hotel, probably good to take their word for it (not like they're getting any business from warning us).
    This was the worst provider I ever saw (and I've seen a few) the track marks and everything just turned me off. I did put a review up a year ago and yes, you need to wrap up. Her pics made me think this was a deland barbie type of gal but nope, it was the hottest garbage you can think of. I am mad at myself for seeing her. I should have walked away which is now my new norm. Toss a $20 and bounce.

  11. #10825

    The girls are getting hungry

    https://escortalligator.com.listcraw...ando/175812991

    Desperate Tampa Dom wants way to much $$$ advertising everywhere.

    Sad and Funny.

  12. #10824

    Holing up a Pic or text is not good

    Quote Originally Posted by Kaityx  [View Original Post]
    That's the first rule. If you can, always try to verify by video chat or holding up pictures.
    With the current Ai, replacing text or pic on a sheet of paper is super easy.

    Unfortunately with the amount of scammers out there right now.

    I am going to a 2 number system when I start up again.

  13. #10823
    Quote Originally Posted by Carlosa  [View Original Post]
    So far only deposit scammers.

    Yes guys only fans before meeting is a deposit scam.
    That's the first rule. If you can, always try to verify by video chat or holding up pictures.

  14. #10822
    Quote Originally Posted by LatinOrl  [View Original Post]
    Just a quick rant about Rubmaps. Why in the actual hell are they just asking for crypto, it was so nice when they did the bank / cc tranfer. Now that my membership expired everyone decide to report on spas around orlando, before it was a quiet as a funeral. FML, the dudes need to fix that shit, LOL.

    Rant over,

    Latin.
    Yeah, it might be the problem many adult companies encounter with card companies (or banks) kicking adult vendors off their payment networks. OnlyFans almost lost access a few years back.

    The card companies will say that adult services tend to be a magnet for stolen credit cards and friendly fraud chargebacks. If too many of your charges get disputed, they figure you must be doing something illegal, unethical or incompetent and ban you from taking credit cards.

    If it's hiding transactions, then crypto (at least Bitcoin and ETH) aren't anonymous without additional precautions, but they take a bit more work if someone wants to track you down. It's a bit of a hassle, but there's a few reliable wallets you can sign-up for.

  15. #10821

    Election year

    Election years busts, there here guys.

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