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  1. #48710
    Quote Originally Posted by Punkox  [View Original Post]
    Seriously. Agencies? Apartments? All that currently exists and are crap. I wonder why the legal system doesn't focus on busting the gangs and crime on the streets. Instead they've got to bust up on a happy ending spot.
    It's an election year. Anything charade that makes it look like they're actually doing something. Easier to get the low hanging fruit than to go after the actual criminals.

  2. #48709

    I'm not current

    Quote Originally Posted by Totk33  [View Original Post]
    If you know of any of these send me a PM with info. I've seen these agencies in other states and was always concerned about how the $$$ vs if what you actually get is what you asked for. At the moment I prefer AMPs, I can't seem to find a reliable utr who's actually attractive. It's always a glammed up picture or they only look nice from certain angles. I'm a face guy and prefer actual petite spinners. If one goes wrong the whole dream is gone.
    Things change frequently there. I try and stay up to speed for my work travels but don't have a trip for a while. You need to check the ECCIE board for Dallas. This sites info is piss poor for that town. But any of them listed that are Asian Stars, K Festival, Blossom K, Greenlight etc. Are legit. One or 2 of those may have gotten shut down? Check ECCIE. All the info you need are in the Studio Posts.

  3. #48708

    Pointers from Dallas

    Quote Originally Posted by Punkox  [View Original Post]
    Seriously. Agencies? Apartments? All that currently exists and are crap. I wonder why the legal system doesn't focus on busting the gangs and crime on the streets. Instead they've got to bust up on a happy ending spot.
    As long as you're not feeling an itch and need the job done right now, the apartment scene is better in my opinion. It is sometimes fun walking in and not knowing what to expect, but its the luck of the draw if you go to a new place or they changed the rotation. But I totally understand if you monger under the radar and can't have a burner phone. Definitely get that.

  4. #48707
    Senior Member


    Posts: 287

    July 1st

    I planned to post today to ask about the same thing. I have an opportunity to come down for the long July 4th holiday weekend, but am hesitant due to uncertainty around which changes will occur at the first of the month.

    Will the AMP hobby as we know it disintegrate? Or will they re-license like the great Dr. Willy mentioned and get around the laws, at least for the short-term (would be amazing)? Will they pivot to a k-apartment model (if they keep the rates the same I don't think I would mind this)? Or will they swallow the new laws and outlaw all extras effective immediately (oh no...)?

    Who the heck knows ... if I do decide to come I hope they aren't forcing display of ID to enter LOL that would be so horrendous. I would shed a single tear, then just turn around and walk out in shame. I just hope I can still get a great session for a decent rate. Another horrible decision by the government and it will probably end up ruining this special hobby in FL. Disgraceful.

  5. #48706

    Amy at GoldenGateSpa

    Met Amy at golden gate spa and she was pretty cute so I figure I'll mention our session.

    Legit young she said she 24 and I believe it, small tattoo on shoulder dyed hair she's hot.

    The location should also get some props. It's huge here, standalone structure a lot of parking you can't miss it coming on and semoran towards E colonial Dr. Huge stand-alone with a second floor saloon. Loved it.

    She was all smiles so GND more like the neighbors hot (legal) college aged girl from next door.

    Walked me In and there is no time to waste so we settle and get to it $80 house 1 hr and $160 plus $40 at the end.

    She ripped the clothes off of me says a quick hello to jr. And we hop to the shower, fuck this place it huge.

    Not much play there so we get out and go back after a thorough wash. She's got a very sexy way about her. Ass is super nice and she's partially shaved with perfect lip ratio.

    Excellent bbj, covered mish, cg for a while her moans and fuck me eyes were amazing. During a short break to catch outlet breath, she kept in sucking me and playing wjth the boys I can say she was GFE without trying so hard. Not mechanical and didn't have a scrip. I we resumed in doggy and filled the bag and nearly collapsed from the excitement. On my way out had a chat with the mms and had a chance to get a full tour. Other girls were busy when I came in but I got to meet another hottie I just don't remember her name.

    Super unexpected but left me wanting more. Definitely check it out here in my next trip.

  6. #48705
    Quote Originally Posted by DrWilly  [View Original Post]
    In the St. Petersburg/Massage Parlor thread a member reported (click here to read) that one of the popular Chinese AMPs (Vinca Massage) recently "re-licensed" their business to change from a MASSAGE SPA to a (unregulated and unaffected by July 1st Laws) COSMETOLOGY SALON business.

    May be a wild guess, but perhaps A2 is "renovating" to look like such a "salon" (on the outside and lobby anyway) and otherwise awaiting new business license paperwork!

    That "solution" seems pretty transparent though, and I would think that LE would - SOMEHOW - find a way to bother a Cosmetology Salon just out of spite for trying to skirt the intentions of the Massage Spa law.

    By the way, Vinca (CLICK HERE) is one of TWO places I know of, outside of Orlando, that provides "Orlando Style & Quality" services, right down to the Naked Nuru Table Showers, TUMA, BBBJ, and two girl options (for only 100 more on top of the 80+160 for an hour), with the other being Eastern Massage & Spa in south Sarasota (CLICK HERE).
    I think a "salon" approach would be problematic as well. Beauty salons are also heavily regulated. Heck, even the stylists at Great Clips have to be licensed. However, a Relaxation Lounge approach might work. Of course, they wouldn't serve anything food and beverage related, as that would also require regulation. Maybe a BYOB approach? Make it literally just a place to unwind, maybe karaoke too.

  7. #48704

    Another Possibility After July 1st

    Quote Originally Posted by Dick Jackman  [View Original Post]
    (...) Its possible the (A2) owners anticipated that the whole AMP business model might be due for an imminent change and they are waiting to see which way the wind blows after July 1. (...) The larger question is what will happen after July 1. I think the current AMP business model could shift to the "K Girl Apartment Model" currently popular in many western cities (...) Seriously though, I am curious to learn what other hobbyists think might happen to the AMPs after July 1.
    In the St. Petersburg/Massage Parlor thread a member reported (click here to read) that one of the popular Chinese AMPs (Vinca Massage) recently "re-licensed" their business to change from a MASSAGE SPA to a (unregulated and unaffected by July 1st Laws) COSMETOLOGY SALON business.

    May be a wild guess, but perhaps A2 is "renovating" to look like such a "salon" (on the outside and lobby anyway) and otherwise awaiting new business license paperwork!

    That "solution" seems pretty transparent though, and I would think that LE would - SOMEHOW - find a way to bother a Cosmetology Salon just out of spite for trying to skirt the intentions of the Massage Spa law.

    By the way, Vinca (CLICK HERE) is one of TWO places I know of, outside of Orlando, that provides "Orlando Style & Quality" services, right down to the Naked Nuru Table Showers, TUMA, BBBJ, and two girl options (for only 100 more on top of the 80+160 for an hour), with the other being Eastern Massage & Spa in south Sarasota (CLICK HERE).

  8. #48703
    Quote Originally Posted by BigJohn619  [View Original Post]
    While the pending new rules initially appear to hinder the hobbyist lifestyle, the "Apartment Model" might actually expand our choices.

    I've been all over the place and while Orlando has the best AMP by far, the Korean apartment scene in Dallas is the best experience by far. You do loae out on the +100 for doubles which really sucks. But it seems the girls are way hotter and BBFS is offered alot more. It was always in a nice gated apartment complex, easy comms and always on time. You lose the walk in, but I could see ACTUAL pics on the website. I'd text during a work meeting, set up an appt for 7 pm and show up and it was thr actual girl. And most of the time the apartment had a few bedrooms. Often I would see one that morning and go back the next night to a different girl in the other bedroom. If any of them are reading this the ideal setup would be the same thing. Only difference is offering doubles with the other girl staying there. In Dallas, doubles are true DOUBLE the price, but you actually get them both for the whole time. Not like 15 mins or so at the AMP. Best I ever had was in Dallas. Maybe flat rate of 220 for 45 mins? And 375 for 2 girls the whole time?
    If you know of any of these send me a PM with info. I've seen these agencies in other states and was always concerned about how the $$$ vs if what you actually get is what you asked for. At the moment I prefer AMPs, I can't seem to find a reliable utr who's actually attractive. It's always a glammed up picture or they only look nice from certain angles. I'm a face guy and prefer actual petite spinners. If one goes wrong the whole dream is gone.

  9. #48702
    Quote Originally Posted by BigJohn619  [View Original Post]
    While the pending new rules initially appear to hinder the hobbyist lifestyle, the "Apartment Model" might actually expand our choices.

    I've been all over the place and while Orlando has the best AMP by far, the Korean apartment scene in Dallas is the best experience by far. You do loae out on the +100 for doubles which really sucks. But it seems the girls are way hotter and BBFS is offered alot more. It was always in a nice gated apartment complex, easy comms and always on time. You lose the walk in, but I could see ACTUAL pics on the website. I'd text during a work meeting, set up an appt for 7 pm and show up and it was thr actual girl. And most of the time the apartment had a few bedrooms. Often I would see one that morning and go back the next night to a different girl in the other bedroom. If any of them are reading this the ideal setup would be the same thing. Only difference is offering doubles with the other girl staying there. In Dallas, doubles are true DOUBLE the price, but you actually get them both for the whole time. Not like 15 mins or so at the AMP. Best I ever had was in Dallas. Maybe flat rate of 220 for 45 mins? And 375 for 2 girls the whole time?
    Seriously. Agencies? Apartments? All that currently exists and are crap. I wonder why the legal system doesn't focus on busting the gangs and crime on the streets. Instead they've got to bust up on a happy ending spot.

  10. #48701
    Senior Member


    Posts: 1141

    Too Many to List

    Quote Originally Posted by IndianRiver  [View Original Post]
    Is there a forum for HE spas that are not FS. Most of the reporting here is all FS?
    I have been to a shit load of AMP's since moving to Central FL and they all have offered a HE. It would be a waste of time to report on all of them to be honest. Too many to list and not hard to find. Stay away from the ones talked about on here because you'll get sucked and fucked instead. Kissimmee, Orlando, Longwood, etc. They are everywhere man!! If you need guidance just mention what part of town you are in and I'm sure others can chime in.

  11. #48700

    May be better?

    While the pending new rules initially appear to hinder the hobbyist lifestyle, the "Apartment Model" might actually expand our choices.

    I've been all over the place and while Orlando has the best AMP by far, the Korean apartment scene in Dallas is the best experience by far. You do loae out on the +100 for doubles which really sucks. But it seems the girls are way hotter and BBFS is offered alot more. It was always in a nice gated apartment complex, easy comms and always on time. You lose the walk in, but I could see ACTUAL pics on the website. I'd text during a work meeting, set up an appt for 7 pm and show up and it was thr actual girl. And most of the time the apartment had a few bedrooms. Often I would see one that morning and go back the next night to a different girl in the other bedroom. If any of them are reading this the ideal setup would be the same thing. Only difference is offering doubles with the other girl staying there. In Dallas, doubles are true DOUBLE the price, but you actually get them both for the whole time. Not like 15 mins or so at the AMP. Best I ever had was in Dallas. Maybe flat rate of 220 for 45 mins? And 375 for 2 girls the whole time?

  12. #48699

    A-2 Renovations and the July 1 Massage Law Changes

    Are there any updates on the supposed A-2 renovations? It is surprising that they would close so abruptly and without notice for renovations and so shortly before the July 1 new massage laws take effect. When Butterfly was closed for renovations there was a visible permit from the City of Casselberry -- a visible permit is required for substantial renovations -- but I don't recall any hobbyist reporting any visible permits when trying to enter the closed A-2.

    Its possible the owners anticipated that the whole AMP business model might be due for an imminent change and they are waiting to see which way the wind blows after July 1. Also possible that I am simply reading too much into this sudden closing. Renovations might be underway even as I type this.

    The larger question is what will happen after July 1. I think the current AMP business model could shift to the "K Girl Apartment Model" currently popular in many western cities (LA, LV). Hobbyists register with a booking agency and are directed to private apartments for the same AMP services we currently enjoy. An unintended consequence will be, in my opinion, completely unregulated and hidden AMPs with fewer rules than before. Licenses? "We don't need no stinking licenses".

    While the pending new rules initially appear to hinder the hobbyist lifestyle, the "Apartment Model" might actually expand our choices. I can see it now: an "Apartment Model" AMP named "Outback" and their slogan is "no rules, just right". Seriously though, I am curious to learn what other hobbyists think might happen to the AMPs after July 1.

  13. #48698

    Lily at Gardenia

    Was in that area and was hoping that Mona or Yuki / Monica / Blue was there. When I goy there it was dead and a cut Asian babe with a beautiful set of mm greeted me, said her name was Lily. Those tits were mm but wow were they soft, great job where ever she got them done. Table shower was very nice, she offered tuma but that's not my thing, very nice bbj but she couldn't dt me, she said my"banana" too big, LOL I told her Mona can but she said she didn't believe me. Back in the room, lived those tits in my face and when she put my dick between them, put cover on did various positions, loved seeing those tits bounce, finished in Mish. She's a cutie, but not nearly as fun / passionate and sensual as Mona or Yuki. But definitely worth seeing. 200 flat, was there about 45 minutes.

  14. #48697

    For lake co guys

    Went to A1 in eustis today and the usual older lady isn't there. The younger prettier girl that is covering for her seemed nice but man it was the absolute worst service I've ever had there. Massage was non existent basically. 10 minutes max rubbing my back and then started teasing my ass. She turns me over and says 200 for FS. I started to get up and walk out. She counter 100 for BJ. You know how the little head goes so I took that. Big mistake. Terrible toothy CBJ and I basically had to mouth fuck her and hold her head there to nut. I definitely won't be back for a while. She's terrible. Said her name is cici. I should have warned the other guy. She had us pass in the hall way. I guess she knows she's temporary and wants to get as much money as possible.

    She at least gave me back $20 since I paid for an hour and she only gave me 30 min.

  15. #48696

    Pretty Coco at cherry blossom

    Quote Originally Posted by TravelinMonger  [View Original Post]
    This trip hit me differently and for some reason the itch doesn't stop. Like I just finished a double the other day, Angel the other day and already this mornjng j was looking to do something. I hit up cherry blossom and mms was eager to set me up with coco.

    Oy coco is a little hottie. Beautiful face and body. She looked a mix between Japanese and Chinese, I don't know if she really is so I don't want to start rumors.

    She has a pretty red colored tattoo on her abdomen, mm D and she's shaved.

    She gets me in and we click immediately. Some lfk, donation and were off to get wet.

    She actually got in with me and we had a blast. Started with just a wash but when it was my turn I took it a bit further and I ended up in my knees eating her out. It's not easy for me to get up from being on my knees these days.

    I was all up in her kitty and couldn't wait to get head to the room so I cut it should and declined the full TS routine.

    In the room it took us a min or two to ignite the fire but once it was on it was hot. Lfk that led to sucking her Mm D top, I actually did a motor boat with them. It made her laugh.

    It wasn't too long and we found ourselves in a sensual 69 with me holding her ass down (crossing my hands on it) to keep her pussy on my face. She was very sensitive after she came once. Cover on and with a thumb plug I attempt to try doggy first, super tight, sweet soft little moans. Mish was good for a visual of her chest bouncing. Cherry and lazy doggy see my fave finished up in that order.

    Sweet gal great service.
    Is this in Orlando, or Kissimmee? Thanks.

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